23 Questions with Tyler Hilton

Tyler reveals his biggest fear and how it once threatened to derail a production! He shares a weird obsession he doesn’t regret and something Hilarie and Sophia once did to him that was a prelude to something he’ll never do again! So much we didn’t know about Tyler all revealed in 23 answers!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, you don't know me.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
We all about that high school drama.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
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take you for a ride. And our comic girl sharing
for the right teams.

Speaker 4 (00:12):
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
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Queens drama, Drahna Queens drama Queens.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
You guys, we have one of our favorite, favorite favorite
people with us. What a scamp this one.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
We got joy.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
We got one in them, not one in a million,
one in a billion. I mean Tyler Hilton, ladies and gentlemen,
Chris Keller himself a dear friend of flowers.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh Tyler, there you are with the tight fresh haircut.

Speaker 6 (00:49):
Ooh no, no, love it.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Tyler. We miss you. We're excited to play twenty three
questions with you.

Speaker 6 (00:59):
I know I'm too.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Thanks for jumping in, man, what you been doing? What's
going on? What's happening in your life?

Speaker 7 (01:04):
Dude?

Speaker 6 (01:05):
Hang in. I just finished the score for a Megan's movie,
so that was cool. We just wrap that in the
last few weeks. And the little town she filmed it in,
they have like a local paper, and they were like, well,
the economy's booming because all this film production moved in
for a movie called My Old Ass. And he said
the whole thing in the new paper and I was like, oh, okay,

(01:25):
they're like and it's not about a donkey, apparently according
to sources. And I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
When she told us the name of that, I was like,
of course.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I know.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
Can I tell you guys a story really quick? We're
on my god. So I just went outside before this
heard all this commotion. All these ducks in the yard
flew away really quick, it was, and usually that means
a predator is in the area. And I had swooped
down on a duck that was just chilling there and
got him right there in front of me. It was
the weirdest thing. And it's like, what should happen? Said,

(01:58):
and you're happy at the same time, but just so
dramatic to watch go down.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Also, birds attacking birds. I didn't know that was a
thing that a hawk would attack a duck. I know
they go after mice and stuff, but.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
No, they just like there's one that just like hangs
out in the area and he just you know, you know,
get away. In time and everything, and you're like, oh,
the hawk must be this time.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
No, wait till your daughter starts going outside like talking
to it, just like, come hither hawk.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Oh, she talks to the animals all the time. That's
like you feed the birds in the morning and the
raccoons in the in the evening, all.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Those trash bandas.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, dumpster pandas not things. Did you name your hawk
or any of your other.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
Vah, we haven't named the hawk, but the other ones
have names. So we live now in the house that
Megan grew up in and her mom grew up in.
So it's like there's been these animals are like, oh,
that duck right there is the is the kid of
spacey and you know st or light or whatever. Generations

(03:03):
have just been chilling here.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
It's so old timy all right. Well that leads us
to our first question, friend, first question for you is
what is your idea of perfect happiness? Is it feeding recoons? Who?

Speaker 6 (03:21):
Well, that's such a cool question. I feel like being
unencumbered to like do whatever hobby, chase whatever hobby or
interest or thing that makes you curious. I think that's
about as close to happiness as you can get and
I feel like as I get older, that's what I'm
solving for more and more. Like freedom, freedom of choice

(03:45):
to do things that you want that seems like happy,
you know, happiness to me, And that's how I'm raising
when that's what I want for my family. You know,
that kind of thing where you can create safe sandboxes
to kind of be free in. That's like, that's happiness.
I think I was just talking.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
About that earlier today. It was like being in my
forties finally realizing that I don't necessarily like the things
that I was told I liked as a kid. Yeah,
and and just the freedom to be like.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
I don't like that. No, I did it because I
that is to break away from the pact on something
that you don't agree with them on. That's true freedom,
whether it's like whatever, you know that that's like, that's
a vibe because we all have that. I'm sure, like,
I wonder what the percentage is, but I'm sure like,
like at least a third of our preferences, if we

(04:36):
truly get down in there, don't line up with the
rest of society. And what do you do with those?
You know, what are you going to do with those?
I guess always. That's that's the maybe thing of life
is always be fighting in whatever way you can and small,
you know, always just taking the road that kind of
leaves you closer to more of those or something you know,
you are.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Found Darling, I miss I miss conversations I ever gave you.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Oh no, these are hard, these are grad school questions.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
You're my favorite.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, well, okay, listen, here's the next one. What's your
greatest fear?

Speaker 6 (05:12):
Oh man, Well, the service level answer would be like heights,
Like I've always like I can't do heights, like physically,
oh my gosh. In fact, Hillary, you're a part of
this story that actually is so funny of me in heights,
Like I always had such a thing with heights. I can't, Yes,
I can't even it's not even like a choice. I

(05:34):
physically can't go higher, like my legs will freeze and stuff.
So we're doing Christmas on the Bayou. They don't tell
me this, and we get to set and they're like, okay,
so for this scene, you're going to be fixing that
street light up there, street light and we have this
ladder going up to it, and you're kind of putting
Christmas lights and I was like on the street light
way up there, and I was like, am I on
a harness? They're like, no, no, no, we'll get you up there.

(05:55):
And I was like, it was the only time I've
ever been filming that. I said, I can't do that, Like,
I mean, I can't, I won't. I won't make it
up there or whatever. It's so funny. That was the
movie with you or whatever. So they had me hang
some light like lights on a tree or something.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Didn't they get they used the child actor's dad as
a body double for you. You were a good one
and a half taller than that dude. Oh no, it
did not match. It was not a match.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
I won't make it up there, he said.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Yeah, thank god.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, so that's my biggest Yeah, that was scary. Okay,
if you could be the best in the world at
something anything, what would it be? Whoa like the best
in the world.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Anything?

Speaker 6 (06:46):
Oh gosh, I mean you know, I'm sure there's like
a the responsible thing would be like what does the
world need? And then like try to be the best
for them? The first engineer it like like the selfish
answer is like so I actually like played my friend's

(07:06):
wedding that actually I played Eli and Marissa's wedding this
weekend from the One Tree Hill Conventions. I don't know
if you're like, they're there and they're part of like
the staff, the literally the biggest, hardest people ever, and
so shout out to them. But as I was playing it,
I haven't been playing a lot of shows, I uh

(07:30):
realized how much I love singing for people. It's like
the craziest thing. Touring is hard and sucks, and so
I'm trying to get out of touring. But then I
forget how much I love singing for people and honestly.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
So magical on stage.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Oh yeah, I know it's.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
It is, but you are also yes, yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
But like I just it's truly like a spiritual vibe,
you know. And and I think, like, you know, if
there's some way I could harness that into like whatever,
being the best in the world at that, you know,
if my guitar my voice could be like my superpower
and I could go everywhere with that, I would, you know,
Like I love that.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
That is so funny that you pick something that it
already is your superpower, Like you're already so good at
it and so magical.

Speaker 6 (08:13):
But I always want to be better. And it's one
of those things too, where with like a lot of things,
you can only be so good at guitar and voice
whatever whatever. But then after that, getting better is like
a spiritual thing and a person, and it's like it's
not like it's like non fiction stuff. It's like fiction stuff.
You know, it's like deep into that part of you.

(08:34):
Do you know what I mean? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Do you remember that band, the Dresden Dolls. Yeah?

Speaker 6 (08:40):
Why because the lead.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Singer didn't want a tour anymore either, Like she's a
parent and she just got a place here in the
Hudson Valley that it's like a shop but also a
house and it's basically just a living room she set
up where she performs every single weekend. Wow, other super
famous musician friends to just come play in this living
room and it's just all like chairs from thrift stores

(09:06):
and it is the coolest thing for artists to just
be able to sing and play but not tour.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
Yeah about that too. I love the coffee house vibe.
I've been really missing that. It's kind of used as
like a beginner's launching pad, but then when on it,
you miss it. Like there's some things that don't translate
to like loud bars with clinking glasses and drinking. Yeah,
like you know a singer named Kathleen Edwards Joy, did
you ever?

Speaker 8 (09:34):
No?

Speaker 3 (09:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (09:35):
She's like an Americana folky kind of thing lives. I
think ended up dating and working with Bonie Vera and
then they want to Grammy at some point. Anyway, she quit,
moved back home to a small town in Canada and
opened up a coffee house called Quitters, and that's just
where she worked now. Yes, I always thought that'd be
such a good job, like she should make it a

(09:56):
show or reacit or I just feel like that's such
a beautiful concept that she moved back there and just
plays there, owns it. Quitters Coffee so cool.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
You're going to open up ducks and raccoons.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
Oh my god? Can you imagine such a hit. When
I first moved here, I was like, Okay, I'm going
to open up a coffee house here, and I actually
googled how many cups of coffee do you have to
sell on average to make a coffee house work. I
was like, I'll never be able to make that work.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
I do love that, I think, especially in a day
and age where it's like the concert experience is so
becoming so much more about big, giant concerts. You know,
it's great to see Piance and Taylor Swift. That's fun,
but there is so much that you can get out
of just going to see an independent artist or somebody
who's not as famous as Taylor Swift, which you know
who is, but and just just sitting there and experiencing that.

(10:45):
I feel like it's harder to get people out of
their houses to go do that. But if it were
more of an intimate thing like what you're talking about,
where you know you're going to have that interaction much
more up close, I feel like that's a super sellable experience.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
Maybe with the vibe is and I should look into
this is doing some kind of regular performance either here
or in Toronto, like a residency kind of vibe in
a more accessful place, but then filming it and streaming
it on like a TikTok or Instagram, you know, so
people can still you know, experience it if they want.
But it's fun. You know, it's in that small intimate

(11:20):
thing that you could also show up in anyway.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, okay, all right, here's our next question what's the
weirdest thing you keep next to your bed?

Speaker 6 (11:26):
Oh, good god, these are good. That is so okay,
I'll tell you. Oh my god, cold heart cash, cash
in the gun. Remember bedside table picture came out. It
was like a diet coke, a gun and something else.
I was like elon musk. It was like a picture

(11:49):
of God.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yes, oh boo heels.

Speaker 6 (11:56):
Okay, so this is weird. But I sleep almost every
night with an AirPod in an ear in my ear
listening to like news.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
You don't lose it.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
I lose it in the middle of the night, and
then I always, oh my god, I can't believe I'm
saying this out loud. This is like yeah, And then
I find it every night like under mirror, and then
I switch it to the other one that hasn't run
out of batteries, and I started again. And that's why,
Yeah to the news. Yeah, it's just like and it's
best if it's like BBC or something today.

Speaker 9 (12:26):
In Yugoslavia, it was all night and then if I
wake up to p or something, I get back home
back to sleep.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
Yeah, And so the AirPod sit right there.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
This is why you're so you can comment on anything.
I feel like, just throw you into any scenario.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Even actually know everything. I don't know. I know it,
even though you're like, I.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Don't know how educated I am on it, but I
definitely know about it and I can have a conversation
with you.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
About But I just want to know what the catalyst
for it was. Like, what was the first day that
Tyler Hilton was like, I'm gonna listen to the news,
Like as a child, did you listen to NPR with
your parents or something?

Speaker 6 (13:05):
No? No, but I you know, I think like my grandma,
who I'm like, really sim much. She kept the TV
on all night. It was like some she didn't watch
it that much during the day, but had to have
it on all night. There's something about that that like
makes me go to sleep. I hope they don't find
that those AirPods give you brain cancer because I'm in trouble.
Can you imagine? But they say you'll know.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
An awful lot.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
So yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Okay, which living person do you admire most?

Speaker 6 (13:31):
Oh? Okay, okay, okay, God, there's so many people to
like go with. You know, I don't mean to be lame,
but I'm gonna go with like an entertainer because I
do feel like we're in such a niche and for me,
it's so hard to find idols in my exact niche.
You know. So although I have like a lot of

(13:51):
great family members and stuff, I've always thought that, like,
I mean, actually, well, I was gonna, you know, I
was gonna say, I was gonna say Hugh Jackman. But
then I you know, it's a downer because I hear
he's like divorcing from his wife.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
But I've always thought, honey, you can still be a
good person and get divorced.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
But I mean, I don't know, I don't know, you know,
but I mean he is, you know, but like I think,
like his interviews, his relationships, his talent, his like career trajectory,
his like work ethic, his like morality, there's something about
him that I think is like truly like I without
realizing it, I like, I'm really inspired by him, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
So, Yeah, did you see him in The Music Man?
While he was doing The Music Man?

Speaker 6 (14:32):
No, I didn't, I didn't. Should have.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
He made every single person there feel like like they
were catching the show where he got a little spicy
because we thought it was like Gus and I the
whole family went to see it for Easter, and we
thought for sure, like, oh, they're improving, they're doing something
like clever he and Sutton Foster, and then we went

(14:57):
online and realized that they do it every show.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
He's just so good.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Never in a million years think it was scripted, because
he's just he's personable in a way that old movie
stars were and we don't necessarily have a lot of that.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
He seems really open, you know, or whatever, like he's
willing to give, you know, and I to be honest,
I kind of get shy and introverted in some regards
with like my art and things, and you know, self conscious.
And he seems so like everyone that I've heard that
has seen him live at his like Hollywood Bowl stuff
or whatever, walked away with this feeling that you want

(15:33):
to give. I feel like if you're like an entertainer
where they're just so like, oh wow, you.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Know, yeah, that's a good one. I've heard that about
him too.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
I don't know these things about myself till you're asking them.
That's the crazy thing is you're like forcing me to like.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, get to know yourself better.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
It's free therapy today. Tyler we're providing a service. It's
all right.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Well it's time to get real about what you spend
the most on. What is your greatest extravagance.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
Oh, definitely like music stuff, album stuff. I spend so
much dough on anything that like if my music career
was like a child, it'd be the most spoiled child.
I give it. Like if I need to, like last
minute be in La to doc, I'll go. If we
need like twice as many string players, but there isn't
a budget for we'll buy it, you know. Like I

(16:33):
just I that's like my favorite thing to spend money on.
Like we were just on vacation in this cottage and
I found out there was a music store like an
hour and a half away, and they had this mic
that I wanted and I spent like the day like
driving there to buy it. Like because they had this
old pump in this cottage and I was like, I
want to record this pump organ and so like these
kind of things, I'll just like, I'll just spend on.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
You know, what's the craziest musical thing that you spent
your money on that you had to have? I like
that he's a little bit impulsive.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
I have to have one of these, guys. Okay, so
this is called a baritone guitar, and it's like.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Longer you say, it's really long.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
And so what it is is you get rid of
the high string on a guitar and you add an
extra low string below the eaves, just one string lower,
and it just sounds kind of I mean, this is electric,
but it just sounds kind of like you know what
I mean. Yeah, And then they use it a lot,

(17:36):
not for chords and stuff, but you like a you know,
like those time Oh yeah, m hm.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Anyway, you need a pickup truck a lift kit.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Oh yeah, it's so outlock country.

Speaker 10 (17:48):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
That's a fun toy.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Tie how they make baritone acoustics And now I really
want to get one.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I gotta have it, all right. Question number seven is
what is your current state of mind?

Speaker 6 (18:02):
You guys? These are such good questions.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, would you wake up today?

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Feel like when the show ends and you guys have
watched every episode, you literally should just keep this stuff going,
like you're asking you're asking the stuff that we wish
journalists or whatever, like like getting in there, well.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Basically just farming for all your Internet passwords were like
what was the name of your first pet and your
favorite teacher?

Speaker 6 (18:26):
Uh? Okay, like what was it my current state of mind? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, when you woke up this morning, you were like, ah,
this is how I feel.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
This is like a really good question. Okay. So here's
where I'm at generally, Like in my head is I'm
in this like weird transition where after my last record
came out in twenty nineteen or whatever, I was going
to take a couple of years off and just do
the dad thing and the pandemic hit whatever, so that
extended my little break. I was going to take a
little longer. But now I'm like in this phase where

(18:58):
I'm like coming out of this like two or three
years and being like this feeling of like I I
want to do something, you know, Like but what do
I do? Who am I? Now? Everything's different, Like I
have four I had a zero year old. I had nobody.
Now I have a like almost four year old. Like
I live in Canada, like I and I'm surprised by

(19:20):
how many songs and stuff keep like bubbling up in me.
So after I the good thing is Megan asked me
to do the score for the movie. This is all
leading up to where I'm at now, and then I
it really broke me out of like just being in
dad mode, you know, and I had to go hard
into the studio once I did that, and it was
like the hardest thing I've ever done, just like writing
music to a movie for strings, and it was like

(19:42):
so great. By the end of that, I was like,
all I want to do is make another album. So
I went right into the studio made like a whole
nother album. And now I'm like it's done. The first
song like just came out or whatever, and I'm like
or whatever, and I'm like whatever, but I'm like now
what And I'm in this like where I realize like, oh,
like where does music? Where does me as Where does

(20:07):
me as a musician fit into my life now? And
I like really realize that like no matter what, if
I retired, if whatever, I would still put out a
record all the time. I love putting out stop and
I feel like I'm in this stage right now where
this feels like one of the first records that I'll
I'm putting out that will be one of like hopefully
one every year for the rest of my life. You know.
This is just what I'm like doing now it's like

(20:29):
my practice ers before I was like a road guy.
I don't want to do that if I'm really like
for probably I don't want to be road guy for
like another twenty years if I can help it. Old
man road guy's sick. I want to be yeah, yeah,
but like for the next while, like and so it's
just it's just like really wild because I'm in this
stage now where like the first song just came out
and other song's coming out, and it's like not any

(20:49):
kind of like oh anticipation, what's going to happen? Things
will adjust if it does well or not. No, It's
like this is my new infinite game, you know. And
in itself, it's like I wake up every day kind
of feeling like a new person. I'm like, who am I?
I have to like rebuild my identity because I'm not.
I'm not there with like the fans, the hotel rooms,

(21:10):
like so many years on the road. You know. It's
like it's been and I've kind of thought this lot
these last couple of years were going to be just
a break, and then I go back to it and
I realize, like, no, I'm I don't want to go
back to that, So what what am I now? What
do I do now? So it's just I'm like definitely
like working that out, and it's like it's a it's cool.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
So changing your state of mind in that way certainly
affects your relationships. And now that you're older in life
and you have this retrospective perspective, what's your What do
you value the most in your friends? I guess it's
a quality, Like what what quality do you value most?

Speaker 6 (21:51):
Okay, So the quality I value most is like I
like to like, I love ideas, and I love like
talking a lot or whatever, and so I feel like
my closest friends, I have this one guy who've been
like best friends since we were like fifteen in high school
and we still talk like every couple of weeks or whatever.
And I love being able to just like talk about

(22:14):
with like someone that I could just like have conversations
with and and that isn't stuck in their thinking that
I could be like wait is blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah or maybe anything that starts with wait
or maybe or those kind of conversations I love, like
I could go off on that if we're in that
kind of mindset of like I wonder if just those
kind of things I love to like just talk so curiosity,

(22:39):
curiosity and safety, you know. And this is another thing
that's like really important to me is non selfish love. Like,
especially as an entertainer. You know, there's a lot of
people that like like you, but they you know, and
you're giving that to them and they want that, you know.
But to have somebody like dig you, dig things about you,

(23:00):
they're not getting anything out of that's really cool, you know.
Yeah and rare. Yeah, you guys are like that. I
really feel like that. And we've always you know, we've
we've I think as we met so young and we've
been through so many things together. But there is, uh,
there's that vibe, you know, but.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well there's no angle. Yeah, and I don't I feel
like I I lucked out in that. I'm still friends
with all my childhood friends. But Jeffrey has certainly struggled
with that. I've seen my husband like just get worked
by some people. And so when when he meets people,
like he loves you so much. When we were on tour,
you two hugging backstage.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
Oh my god, I got.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
You two just love each other. Yeah, it's nice, especially
for men who are not necessarily encouraged to dig deep
into those feelings to find people who they can be
gentle with and like that don't want anything from them.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
Yeah, and then too, guy say in inside time because
it doesn't seem like worth it. You know. I think like,
as a guy, you think there's things you got to
get done in a day, and talking to your guy
friend is not one of them. You know, it just
seems like a total waste of time.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Oh No, women prioritize that we cut out a whole
hour of the day, like, well, this is my talk hour.
Going to fix it?

Speaker 6 (24:21):
You literally started a podcast so you guys could do it.

Speaker 11 (24:26):
Maybe that's what I need to do, is just.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
Start a podcasting friends, just to be like check in,
how's everybody?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
That's it? The check in?

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Okay, baby?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
On what occasion do you lie?

Speaker 6 (24:38):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Dang, tell me, tell me tell me?

Speaker 6 (24:42):
Oh man, I try to like not to be like lame,
but I like really try not to lie, only because
I feel like as like a practice of like owning
something honestly, you know what I mean. But that being said,
you know, I'm sure I like lie all the time.
Kind of vibe. But I like, I do try to
go towards like truthfulness, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
But when would it be when are you gonna? Are
you what do you like? Uh? You're what kind of
is it? Like like a simple social circumstance or you know,
like sorry, I can't make it. I know the baby's
not feeling well no to this podcast.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
I think like you cannot I mean, like I think hying.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Uh what's the audience?

Speaker 6 (25:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Tell on you here?

Speaker 6 (25:27):
God, dang, this is a tough thing. How I got
to get right in there.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
We'll know if you're lying.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
I think there's been a couple of times where my
mother in law has come over and they a skunk
had just been through the yard, and I said, yeah, yeah,
I think I did see a skunk go through the yard.
And I think that's what that smell is. I think
that's probably liar that I lied about that. But do
you know what I mean, Yeah, something smells kind of

(25:55):
you know, And then I'm like, oh, yeah, I don't
know what that is. It was a skunk, actually, I
think that's something you know, she doesn't need to know
how to be pro about. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, parenting's hard, Yeah, baby, I get it.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Tyler, what is something you would never do again?

Speaker 6 (26:17):
I'll probably never run a marathon again.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
You ran a marathon two.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
I did two marathons right around, like you guys were
kind of around for that. I was training for one
with you guys. That's why you shaved my hand to
a mohawk. Because my first marathon, I just realized, do
you remember you and Sophia did that at a mall in.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Like, dude, yeah, Like the mall hangs were always kind
of suss. We didn't make great decisions.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Oh no, I think about all the time. Thank god.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
No iPhones, no iPhones, no iPhones.

Speaker 6 (26:53):
I mean I just like we just slipped right through there,
you know, And it was just like, wow, the last generation.
That's a toughie. What was the question? What am I
talking about?

Speaker 2 (27:03):
You're talking about something you'll never do again.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
Oh, I'll never do again.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Oh you've already blocked it from your memory. That's how
traumatic it was.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
Oh yeah, do the marathon. I'll never do that again.
That's right. I did like two when I was younger,
just as like, I get like extreme about stuff, and
I was like, oh, I'm gonna do it. And then
at the end of each marathon, I had like a
beer and a cigarette waiting for me, and I was
like a total just young soul about it, like no care.
And then I did that for the second marathon too.
I barely trained. I was just all cocky, and I

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started getting like pains in my knees and stuff. And
I thought myself, like I'd also like played football in
high school or whatever, and I was like, I will
never like run a marathon or do any kind of
extreme sports again. My new vibe is like longevity. Oh
my god, the answer is so old sounding, but you
know what I mean. Where I'm like, you know, I
get it. If it's a walk run, I'll do a
little walking. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
What's that little prancer size? Oh yeah, that you can
do where it's just a little little dance move.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Why get dancey walk.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
Like a Florida retiree walk kind of vibe.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, I would pransercize with you, but I don't run
for anything. I completely back the decisions.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
Your like workout vibe, like do you do like do
you do workout? Do you like do ploates or something?

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I do chores, I vacuum, I can clean my own
farm chores. Yeah, yeah, all the stuff that we pay
other people to do, I just do and I'm so
exhausted by the end of the day.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Running is so unnatural, it is what that's a caveman stuff.
You run because you're hunting something or something is chasing you.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Something's chasing you.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Is there nothing more privileged? Jogging slowly like just like
an easy Yeah no, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I don't like the competition around it, right, It's like
I'm gonna run faster than you. Like it just feels like, well,
then why don't you just run next to me?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Like we why don't we just be friends?

Speaker 6 (28:58):
I would rather other people win, just to take the
pressure off because I don't want to feel good. Please
just bea part of it.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Freaks me out, I got all right, all right, all right,
Uh you've already told us what you spend the most
money on.

Speaker 6 (29:11):
But this is a little bit different.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
This is what is the strangest purchase you have made,
or like almost made. We'll let you let you fit
in almost difference.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
Oh you like I got, I guess the strangest thing
would be And like some people are like not into this,
but like I got like real into like reading all
the books about bitcoin and bought some bitcoin. It's like
and it's like comes with like it's literally my dirty
secret because like it's so everyone like hates it and
it's so dirty, but it's like weird, but I like,

(29:41):
I am so interested in it. I got like a
second computer that I loaded like Linux on, and I
like learning it from the code base. Like I just
like I loved it.

Speaker 8 (29:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Why you loved it is the same reason boys like
Pokemon cards.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
And in Rome, you know, is like the Roman Empire
maneral into it. When they said that, I was like,
I think about the Roman Empire almost every day. I
was like, I was like, why do I think about
the Roman Empire so much? But I do?

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Why? Why do you though.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
There's so many things that tie back to the Roman
Empire that in the given day or week that you're
just like just like the Romans. I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
I didn't even know I thought that Bitcoin was the
downfall of the Roman the Roman Empire.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
I wonder, I know, I mean just more as like
a you know, like as at tech and something that happened,
you know, I don't know politically whatever, but it was like,
that's like a strange thing I bought, because I remember
even when I bought like twenty bucks of it. After
I was I felt like I was like, this feels
so weird, Like I just couldn't stop thinking. It started
because these like NFT companies were coming to me in

(30:45):
twenty one about doing something that was so weird. Yeah.
I didn't really get into NFTs and I thought like,
this is like dumb, I don't I mean, you know,
And then the more I looked into it, I was like, oh,
this is cool. And then it just kept coming back
to bitcoin, and I was like, this is so interesting.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
It's it's like fast.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
They have like a whole course on it that Harvard
did you can watch on YouTube. I like watching. Yeah,
It's like it's like so fascinating, just the technology that
was invented to make it possible. Whether it should be
legal or not, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Is that also something you'd never do again? What bitcoin?

Speaker 6 (31:15):
No? I would for sure. I like love it.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
You do, You're still you're still totally like you're in it.

Speaker 6 (31:20):
I never sold, like I have I have it on
I like, I like follow it like so much. Like
I just like I'm fascinated by it. It's like so interesting.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I love the difference between men and women because I
have a lot of like female friends that you know,
there's like classes in Ireland and Scotland about fairies, right,
and they're like.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
Fairies are real.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Fairies are real. I made up my mind they're real.
And bitcoin is that For boys, They're like, yeah, it's real,
this money's real. You can't see it, you can't touch it.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
That's the nerd trap of it is. It's so obviously.
It comes across so obviously. It's like a scam that
you're like, oh, like everyone everyone's like learning about it
always starts and like I can't believe we're talking about this,
but like, oh, that's obviously a scam. And everyone that
gets into it goes for years like feeling bad for
the friend that got them into it. Like this guy
who I really respect tell me about whatever bitcoin for

(32:13):
like two years, and I felt bad for him. I
was like, this guy's lost his mind and it's like
really a smart guy, and I feel like the pandemic
must have like sent him down a rabbit hole and
now we've like lost him to the world. And then
a couple of my friends kept like telling me about it,
and I was like, everyone's just everyone's going crazy, and
it's like so sad. The world's like, you know, going
to and then and then all of a sudden there's
this like moment and you're like, oh my god. But anyway,

(32:36):
it's just a hobby. It's like a it's a hobby.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's Pokemon for grown ups.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
I love it the curiosity in you, Tyler. I love that. Medanically, No,
this is so sad, no way. Oh wait a second,
wait a second, wait a second.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
Yeah, I know the same thing with the marathon. I
was like, I'll start jogging and see what happens. And
I'm like, running a marathon at your life.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
This is so true about you, though, Tyler. You are
so you were one of those people that like you
commit to what you're in, to what you think, your perspective,
your belief, but you are so open handed with it.
You're so open to like, hey, change my mind, like
if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but like like you don't
wander around kind of wishy wash about anything. But the

(33:13):
second that you realize there's a different way of looking
at something, You're like, yeah, all right, great. I love
that about you.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
No, I'm like wanted to be wrong. I like I
want to be wrong because I don't ever want to
be wasting time in a thought that's not I don't know,
like yes, and be can can go on forever, Like
if a thought or a practice something isnt something that
can continue to make me happier or is actually you know,
good for the world or whatever, it's like I want
out of it, you know. Yeah, this is the most

(33:40):
revealing interview I swear to god, I've ever done in
my life. Like, this is so frust questionnaire because they're
because they're so like, there's such embarrassing answers. I'm being
like so open and there are things that I would
never share with people normally. I can't believe. It's just
really kudos to you guys for these like this is
digging in.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Okay, who are your favorite writers?

Speaker 6 (34:10):
Like book writers, any kind.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Of writers, songwriters, poetry, I don't know, stories.

Speaker 6 (34:15):
The best book right now? What is? Oh my god,
I'm obsessed with the guy who wrote it? Okay, the
book one a Pulitzer. It's called Trust and it's written
by this guy named Hernan Diaz, and I'm like, it's
the I'm so obsessed with it, and now I'm gonna
start I just finished it. I'm almost done with it
last night. I'm gonna start it again. And By like

(34:37):
everything he's done and it's fiction, but it's just the
way he's written it is so beautiful. Yeah, trust by
t it's cool because well, I mean it's actually sounds
kind of boring, but it's beautiful. And I don't even
mind as much what a story's about, but how it's told,
you know, I don't care. Like in the first paragraph,
same with the movie. I don't care what the movie's about.

(34:58):
But when I'm starting movies, I'm playing. I just watched
the first five minutes because if I'm not into it
in the first minute, I know what this is. Vibe
is I don't want to do this, you know. Yeah,
if it's weird casting or people are trying to I'm out.
I don't want to do this, you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, not a time waster?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Where what is this? Like basic broadstrokes story of trust
for the person out there? That's like, do I get this.

Speaker 6 (35:21):
In four parts? And like the first part it tells
a story about this, like like money manager from like
the thirties or something twenties who became like all fame.
Then it's like the second part of the it kind
of tells the same story about a guy from four
different perspectives, and as it goes on it becomes this
like you start to realize that it's actually not about
him at all. It's about this like woman in his life.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Don't everything are you giving away?

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (35:43):
Yeah, no I'm not, But like, but it's encouraging to
keep reading because you'll you almost start and finish a
book four times in the book, but each time you
do it, you're like revealing the same story in cooler
ways of those things. But by the end, I'm just like,
oh man, and every time they keep revealing, it keeps
just Julia Hill's.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Hills and brand I think did that in a It's
called We Are All the Same in the Dark I Love.
I read a lot of murder mysteries and it was
this was like, a this is a real novel. It's
not like a cheesy murder mystery. But it's so good.
She does the same thing, and I don't know that
I've read many books that do that, where you keep unfolding,
like you end the book and start a nube and

(36:21):
yet it all ties together multiple times.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
I love that because I think that's the same thing
with life. It's like really wild when you see things
from I've seen. I've learned so much by being in
Canada and just seeing and I don't mean this in
any kind of oh, like political, just culturally. Seeing America
from a different country is so interesting and I've never

(36:46):
not been in it. I'm from southern California, like you know,
a huge state in a huge country, you know what
I mean, And like, I never It's like they say,
like that old fish swims by the young fish. They're like,
how's the water? And the two fish are like, what's water?
Like I was like, what's water? You know what I mean?
And then you get out of it and you're like
And I love that. I love seeing things from those

(37:06):
different perspectives, seeing the same person if you're their dad
or their best friend or their lover, and the different
people we are to different people. That like that blows
my mind, you know anyway, I don't know we're getting
off on that, but this is what I like to do.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
No point, no point, just listen, just spitballing with Tyler
is the name of your show.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
Friends what I want in friendship.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, just spitballing. Okay, we're going to get really deep
right now, this one might hurt. Oh are you ready?

Speaker 11 (37:40):
What is your biggest regret? I think, like probably my
biggest regret. There's not a ton, but like I turned
down a lot of stuff.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
After One Tree Hill and walk the Line because I
was like laser focused on my music and and a
lot of those things like blew up a lot. And
I think, like I wish I'd been a little more
like open to that or something like I was a
little too myopic and at the time I didn't care
at all, and I like don't like really, but I

(38:16):
just think, oh, if I had made some of those
decisions again, I would have been like, oh, I see
it in context, Like, for instance, in during that time,
there was so many sponsorships or things like that, and
I was very very like principled, like do you remember
on the one trial too, or like I didn't have
a phone. I just had a pager, Like I was
anti tech. Oh now I'm like buying bitcoin or whatever.

(38:37):
I was anti tech. I was just wanted a pager
if the label need to get a hold of me.
And I was just and uh wait, what are we
talking about? Why am I talking about a pager regret?
A great regret? Right, So I was just like very
principal and now I was like no to sponsorships, no
to any kind of project that I perceived to be
like not good for the world or something. And so
I guess at that point I only left my music.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
You know.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
I was like twenty two, and I was like, this
is you know, and so when things get offered to you, like,
I don't want to be that. And I think, in
my defense too, when you're younger and you do something,
you do become that. When you're older, you don't. People
don't make that you as much. But I think I like,
there was a lot of things that actually would have
been really fun to do that I you know, I
just straight was like, no, no, that's all my vibe.

(39:20):
You know.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Back then the culture was so different.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Yeah, like remember what I was gonna say, just being a.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Sellout was like the worst thing that you could be.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah, and now, well there wasn't any crossover back then.
There wasn't. It was like if you're going to if
you're going to be an actor, didn't do acting, But
how could I ever become a musician. If I focus
on my acting, that's crazy. I have to focus on
my music. It's not like it is now where everybody's
just like, give us literally every single talent that you
have and put it all in the exact same place

(39:50):
and we're going to just like run with it and
you create your own empire. Back then, it was pick
a lane and you stay there and.

Speaker 6 (39:58):
If you give too much too I felt this way
as a fan, I would be oversaturated. I remember like
there would be like, oh, when cold Play had like
a song come out in a commercial, it was like
a big like whoa, they're selling out. Nobody licensed songs
to commercials. Now it's like the only way musicians make
money is the license of music anyway. Weird things like that.
And I also didn't expect Warner to go through this

(40:20):
crazy thing where I didn't put out a record for
ten years. So obviously hindsight's twenty twenty. But if I
had to go back, I'd be like, great, like this
record company's going to freeze up for like eight years
a bunch of acting stuff, and I loved it at
the time. I was like, no, I'm not an actor.
I'm like I'm a musician, but like it's like some
of the most fun I ever have is being on set.

(40:40):
I love it. I have such a bad.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
When and where were you happiest?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Then?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
When you think about is it those times when you
were on tour or.

Speaker 6 (40:51):
That's a great question.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
I mean I guess maybe it's now you have a baby,
But like I don't know, is this more of like
a before now when and where were you happiest? It
could be now?

Speaker 6 (41:00):
Yeah, I no, that's like a great question. I like
I've started to realize that I love group projects and
group activities. I love being on the road with people.
I like being part of a team. I love I
love being part of a cast. You know, it feels
like a circus. You're there, you become family really quick,
and then everyone leaves and something else happens. But I
love that. That's like so I think when I'm working

(41:24):
with a group, it's really fun. I felt that way
also making this record, Like Jocko, who you know, we
can making music together for I mean he's like, yeah,
one of my best friends and we're still doing it.
And so I often think, actually that my happiest place
other than you know, I mean dad, But like, the
happiest place is honestly being behind Jocko pacing around manically

(41:46):
with music ideas while he's at the computer. There's something
that's like, that's where it all happens. I'm just like
walking around like okay, but we need a clarinet here,
and like what if we do? Like and I'm just
and he's like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like that's my
happy place. I feel like, yes. I actually told the
therapist that recently. I think he was like, where are
you happiest? And I was like, it's honestly pacing behind

(42:07):
my friend Jocko as we're coming up with music. That's
that's my happy place. Really.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
You've always been really good at collaboration, like you value
what the other person is giving because you and then
you make that other person feel like their input is
making you better. You know, like you you share nice.
You can tell that you had siblings, like you're a
good sharer, Tyler Nice.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
I appreciate it. It's not hard because I feel like
I'm learning a lot, especially from you guys. But that's cool.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
All right, Well, here's here's another downer. I'm getting the downers. Uh,
what is something that you really.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
Dislike, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
You don't hate technology anymore, you're fake money.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
Double standards.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Oh my.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
Here is something, oh my god that makes me just like.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Cringe.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
I don't know what it is. There's something and it's
weird because there's not a lot of things that like
get my whatever. But if someone just arbitrarily makes a
decision because they feel like it and it's like whatever,
I could lose my mind. There's just something about that,
you know. Otherwise it's like all whatever, it's all good.
But somebody being like purposefully I don't know, well I

(43:26):
don't know entitled, Yeah, purposely entitled. They're like malicious or
something like that really really jars me.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
You know. Yeah, yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 6 (43:36):
That's something I just hate.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Okay, well then what or who is the greatest love
of your life?

Speaker 6 (43:43):
Love of my life?

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, we're bouncing around. It's like happy sad, happy.

Speaker 6 (43:46):
Sad Meg Meg for sure. Well yeah, yes, great, I
mean is that what you're imagine? I was like, oh,
there's just actually it's actually.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
My mom, can you imagine.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Well, some people might say their child, or some might
say like a thing that they do, like a career
path or something, you know, I mean, there's no judgment
on any answer. We're just curious.

Speaker 6 (44:09):
Megan was going to pop up in the zoom and
be like.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yosh, she's been listening this.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
You like Megan. I think like Megan has been like
the great like love of my life. Honestly, like we
we have been, like she's been like the through line
through so many tylers, I guess, and is that kind
of person that can update her thinking, you know what
I mean, And as she grows and as I grow,
and so much good is like come from it aside

(44:37):
from just like love. Like we're like really good collaborators.
And I think like our daughter is like the coolest
person I've ever met. So I'm like, it's so crazy
that like we made that, you know, So I really
do think that she is, you know, I would choose
her and that whole thing, like even over my music

(44:57):
and that kind of stuff. You know, it's like it's
my vibe. I'm all right without the right answer.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
No, she's the right one, bingo, bingo, No, But I
just love that, you guys meant so young. Like literally
racing to the office today to tape this, I ran
into a couple that I know in town here. He's
ninety one. Dick and Barber Shreiber. He's ninety one. She's
like sixteen years younger, which is why she always liked
me and Jeffrey because we were a similar age gap.

(45:23):
And they are celebrating their fifty first wedding anniversary and
that is just nutty to me. Unless you've been with
someone since you were in your really really early twenties,
you know, like you and Meg will get there. That's
crazy to me.

Speaker 6 (45:41):
It is really really crazy. And you hear something like
that too, and knowing that all the stuff that goes
into whatever, even just knowing yourself, but then adding like
another person in there, it's like it's a lot, you know,
but it's cool.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
How many years has it been so far?

Speaker 6 (45:57):
Oh my god? Well I met, we met. We started
when I was like twenty two, so like you know,
and it's like, I think, in a lot of ways,
like dangerous to meet that young because there's like, who know,
you know, there's like so many ways that you could go.
But at the same time, I guess if you can
go through all that with somebody, then you'll probably able
to go through whatever happens between thirty and sixty or

(46:19):
seven or whatever, you know, ninety one ninety one. I
mean I feel like we have these people say midlife crisis.
But I think what every ten years or so we
have like whatever that age is is hard right or
hard left?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
You know, Well, every cell in your body changes over
the course of seven years, so every seven years you
are on a cellular level, a completely different human.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
And to think about now, like what even is marriage
or why do people stay married? Or what's the point
or what are you trying to do? What's the model
for it? Like as long as you're living now and
as like I always forget as secular the non religious
one or non sen Yeah, secular is.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Religious, secular is non religious, you know.

Speaker 6 (47:01):
So like if you're you know, in a secular kind
of marriage, what's the point? And you have to kind
of keep like you know or you know, the vibe.
I think in a lot of ways, we're like pioneers
in this day and age of like what a relationship
is because there's so little to go on from the
past in a lot of ways, I mean, so so
few similarities. You know, those people that were married fifty years,

(47:24):
did they have TikTok you know or whatever? Like so
many things.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Did they have thirst traps.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
That they or no, I mean or whatever the you know,
just a different vibe, you know, and not that that's
you know, I'm being like, you know, but it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
I love it. You're you're You're such an armchair philosopher
at all times. It's one of my favorite things about you.

Speaker 6 (47:46):
It's great. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
We know you want to be like the best singer
and musician, but I'm going to make you pick something different.
Which other talent would you most like to have?

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Oh? You know what?

Speaker 6 (47:59):
I love to be good at fix and shit? Oh yeah,
but you knew who's not good av me? And I've
like my dad's a you know, construction his whole live
Like I should have that, you know. I want to
be that guy. It's like I just know it. Nah,
I always mess it up. I got tools. I've tried,

(48:20):
you know, like I'm always mess it up. And I
think if you could have one skill, I mean, everybody
should have, like being really good at fixing sh all
through out that door, gym whatever, you know, whatever the
deal is, that's cool. I wish I could do that.
That'd be dope.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
You've got the haircut for it. Right now, you could
play a contractor.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
I look like I'd be good at construction, look like
i'd be into cars and like.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
So this is like the probably where you're the most
similar to Chris Keller, if we think about it, because
he's definitely one of those guys that'd be like, I
could fix that for you.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
Probably the most realistic overlap would be the scene where
we were doing the fire in the kitchen. That probably
really when Kyler started entering the chat.

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Speaker 3 (50:15):
Okay, so I guess this would also maybe be the
same answer, but you got to find something different. If
you could change one thing about yourself.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
I'd really like to be a little more chill. Like
I'm starting to realize that I'm like the things that
have been like my superpower or like my like maybe
like charming mannicckness or something hopefully you know.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
But like.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
I mean hopefully it's like charming or whatever. But like
I think there's like this thing in me that's so
and it makes things tough, you know, And I like
envy people that aren't that way. And Megan's not that way,
my good friend Eric's not that way. Like, you know,
you find a lot of people that are opposite, but
I have I would like to be able to sit

(51:02):
still more, you know, I don't, you know, my happy
place is pacing behind Jocko, you know, like that's my vibe,
you know, And and I'm starting to feel that being
kind of exhausted mentally not something I can necessarily do forever,
and I'd love to be like chill.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Have you tried marijuana?

Speaker 2 (51:21):
It's the skunk in the yard.

Speaker 6 (51:24):
Oh that's a skunk. Yeah yeah, yeh kunk.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Does that?

Speaker 6 (51:28):
Does that?

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Melly you out? No?

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Probably just works him up. Peop like, oh man, I
got all these crazy ideas about internet money. Now, Oh
my god, imagine you'reanoid for the next hour. Okay, I
don't think you need to be more chill, but I
see what you're saying. Were you like a hyper kid? Well?

Speaker 6 (51:46):
Actually, and not to be whatever. I like. I think
there is a thing in me that feels like the
unspoken thing in the room is Tyler needs to chill
out a little bit, you know what I mean. And
that's actually interesting to hear you.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
I've never thought that once.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
That's funny because actually then maybe the next deeper for
me is like, oh, that's something that I'm thinking like
it isn't too much because truth, it's not that I
can't keep it up. Sometimes I worry that, you know,
I have to, Well do you.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
When you leave the room, You're like, God, I sucked
all the oxygen out of the room. They're probably talking
about how relieved they are that I'm gone, because that's
my process. Anytime I leave a space, I'm like, oh,
they're probably so relieved I'm gone right now because I'm hyper.

Speaker 6 (52:26):
Yeah maybe yeah, maybe I'm like I'm exhausted of me,
so everybody else must be exhausted or whatever. But it
is wild to like start to realize like, well, yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Anyway, But that's so funny. I've never once thought about
that thought that about either of you. What we have
that you know, we've got our own narratives that go
on in our brains and they're so real to us.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Yeah, okay, oh, what do you consider your greatest achievement?

Speaker 6 (52:53):
God, dang, that is wild. There's like two things that
I'll think about, like I think, like, oh my god,
I don't even know there's I think in some ways,
being in Walk the Line was a huge highlight for
me because of how big of an Elvis fan I

(53:14):
was as a kid, and what like a fairy tale
that happened to be and like what it taught me.
It taught me so many It was my first step
into the industry at all of film and television, and
I learned so much and I think, like the fact
that I learned that by being Elvis in this thing

(53:35):
was like I'm starting to really believe more and more
and like things being meant to be or there being
signs because things are too weird, you know. And this
might be why everyone gets more religious as they get older,
but like you start to realize that there are some
patterns that just are just weird, you know. I don't
know if it's like an accomplishment, but just like a
Cinderella moment for sure that I look back and back

(53:55):
I can't believe that happened. And then a small thing
is The record I put out in twenty nineteen was
called City on Fire, and I thought it was like
the best thing I'd like ever done musically, and I had.
It's so hard to get a record done and out
because it's like a move where the first eighty percent
of it goes quick and it's fun, and the last

(54:17):
twenty percent is clearing out the junk drawer and you're like,
I don't know what to do with this stuff, and
it takes like five days. That's how a record is.
It's like all the annoying stuff's at the end. I
remember when it came out, I like had this moment
where I was like looked up at the sky. I
was like by myself, and I was like, I am
so grateful that this album is out, Like I did it,
Like I wrote these songs, I put them out, and

(54:38):
now they're out there, no matter if I die or
get in the carks, whatever, they're out there forever, you know.
And I did it. And there's so many things that
don't get out there that like when it does get
like like your book or like so many you know
these it's just like, you know how hard it is
to have something go for my idea to act. That's
why I don't even care if it takes off or
if people respond. Just having it out is such you

(54:58):
did it. And I felt that way the last record.
I was like, well that's what that's what is driving
me to do. Try to do like a record a
year from now on, is because it's such an important
practice for me. But and it's it's like an impossibility.
Every time I started, I'm like, this is impossible, this
will never happen. This is too much. You know, it's
a big hill.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Yeah, Okay, if you were going to die and come
back as a person or thing, what would it be the.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Hawk, the haw No, no, what would you come back as?
I think, Uh, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (55:29):
I haven't really thought about it. I guess it'd be
cool to like come back as a woman, just to
like check that out. It would be kind of it's
real cool, Tyler. I feel like it would be cool
or maybe you know, but I would just like that
would be a vibe more than like coming back as
like a cool insect or something. But I don't know.
I guess like being a I have no desire to

(55:50):
be a check you know, this is like something I
could freely do now, I guess if I wanted to,
you know, But I just think it'd be cool to
check it out.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Yeah, listen, you should come back and try on a
different set of hardware.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
You know. Wouldn't it be a guy again or like
our dog or.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Sea?

Speaker 6 (56:10):
Yeah, is cool. It's kind of boring, you know.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Just stand there.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
My friend, uh, talk to a psychic or whatever. He
was like, this is weird. I just talked to this
psychic and they just and he's right after my grandma died.
And he's like, the psychic wanted me to tell you
that this guy, Tyler, his grandma's here and she says
she just got here and there's not a lot going
on and she's kind of bored. And I was like,
that is so my grandma to say, the one that

(56:38):
had the TV on all the time. Yeah, this guy right,
And anyway, that's what it was. Say is when I
think of Sequoia or something like that, I think like, oh,
I think it'd be too bored. And I think they'll
be like my grandma. When I eventually die. I'm sure
whatever purgatory happens for a second, I'll be like, what
are we doing here? Heaven? My woman? Like I talk

(56:58):
about a podcast thing? God making the record?

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Hen can we get the tempo up?

Speaker 6 (57:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
I get that all right. Do you have something in
your life that is just so easy? I feel like
we know the answer to this that you know it's
exactly what you should be doing with your life so easy.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
It just comes so naturally, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (57:26):
Obviously, like you know, music or whatever, a writing. But
I'm starting to realize that my skill in talking to
people I don't know is really coming into handy. In Canada,
it's a little more of a reserved culture, very nice,
but not like a lot of people mixing, and as
we're trying to make new parent friends and stuff, I'm
getting right in there and just being like, what's up.

(57:46):
How you guys do it? Like trying to find the
parents and then make a friend with them, you know.
And I don't think if I had done that this
would be happening, because everyone's very like, oh no, no, no,
I have no no after you no, please, you know,
And I have to kind of get in there and
and it is very easy for me too. It's harder
for me to probably get like personal with people I
don't know, but easy for me to be like, you know.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Get the ball rolling. What are you megan looking for
in your parent friends at school? Like when you're scanning
the room, you're.

Speaker 6 (58:14):
Like, know what when you see it, there's nothing particularly
just you know it when you see it, Like, I
don't know there. I wish there was a pattern so
I could be like, we need to select. We're just
like that they have our vibe. That's our vibe.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
You look for the parents with the tattoos, You're like,
would you get into sure?

Speaker 6 (58:30):
Yeah, what's going on here?

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Okay? Where would you most like to live? You could
pick anywhere in the world. Where would you want that
to be here?

Speaker 6 (58:40):
Like, I like love where we are in Canada. We're
like in like small farmtown kind of vibe and I
love it. I mean, like if we could live like
on a lake or something somewhere, be great. But the
schools all seem to not be great and like you know,
vacation areas. But like, yeah, I love where we are,
Like we're on like a little river. We got some
land hawks are out there. I think this is good

(59:03):
for right now. You know that's great.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
I'm telling you, Winnie is gonna come inside one day
with that thing on her arm, like mom, Dad, I
got a.

Speaker 6 (59:11):
Pet, I know, falconry or whatever.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah, yeah, I love that so so much. All right, Uh,
this is our last question, okay, and then we're gonna
talk about what you have going on right now. What
is your most treasured possession?

Speaker 6 (59:32):
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
He's looking around at guitars.

Speaker 6 (59:36):
I am, I know, like he was like, which guitar?
That's what I was actually like, just it's.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Not like my granddaddy's pocket watch.

Speaker 8 (59:43):
It's like, yeah, I think like this guitar would be
like my most priced possession, only because guitars are like
so not similar.

Speaker 6 (59:54):
Every single one is different. And if you get a
vibe with something, don't change it. And I've had this
guitar since I was like nineteen, and I just like
I beat it up. I never take care of it.
I treat it poorly, and it's always there for me.
And I don't know why. It's one of those things where,
like a lot of things in life. I hate to
say this, my pattern has been when I really want
to take care of something, it doesn't work. It's only

(01:00:15):
when I'm just like indifferent to it that it is
allowed in my presence to be its vibe. I don't
know why. That's always the way it is. And this
guitar face it's an example of that. Like I couldn't
care less about it, and it's never left me. It's
like always sounds good. And because the reason I got
this guitar, this is like typical of my life. We're
going to do TRL for the first time with you guys.

(01:00:36):
It given me this brand new brown and orange guitar.
I was so obsessed with it. I flew to New York.
I took it off the plane and it had broken
in half. What more TRL? So I hear this beautiful
guitar is that I was obsessed with. I was going
to spend my whole career just aging with broke before
like my first big thing on Tario. Oh, they took

(01:00:57):
me to the showroom and they gave me this lorner
and I've had it now for twenty years or whatever.
I mean, we're like stuff like that, Like I only
have so much of a choice and then the rest
of it just gets decided for me. Yeah, you know
what I mean. And that was just handed to me
as a loner, and it's like been my guitar forever.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Like I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
It's like the giving Tree. Like remember that Kid's book
where the laber like plays with the tree and then
abandons it and then chops it down and stuff, and
the tree just keeps providing for him that Guitar's You're
giving tree baby.

Speaker 6 (01:01:29):
That book, and I'll love you forever, no matter how
long I'll be I'm like, dude, that's way too heavy
right now. Like every time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Yeah, they're really writing those books for the parents. They're like,
here's a little bit of trauma for you to process
while you're putting your kids sleep.

Speaker 6 (01:01:45):
Yeah, kid's already asleep and you're like crying.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Talk to us about what you have going on right
now though, because there's some exciting movement happening.

Speaker 6 (01:01:53):
Yeah, So since that, I did that score. So the
score for Megan's movie is like really like nostalgic sounding
like we were going for like nineties nostalgian movies score.
So lots of strings clarinets, like really and then the
album that I made right after that is the same thing.
So it's just like I got real into playing clarinet,
and I bought a cello, and so I've been there

(01:02:14):
play clarinet sixth grade six.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
A savant just teaches himself.

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
Anything, you know, just like just like band or whatever.
And then I asked a fan on Twitter or I
asked everyone on Twitters in one of a clarinet I
could have as a joke, and a fan did and
they sent it to me, So I got the clarinet. Yeah,
and I used it on the whole score in the album.
And anyway, so the song When It Rains just came
out a couple days ago, and then I'll have another

(01:02:39):
song from the record come out in November, and then
the whole record will drop in March, like March sixteenth
or something.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
I love hearing you do new things. You're always doing
new things, Tyler Hilton when it rains. So that's out
now wherever you listen to music.

Speaker 6 (01:02:51):
The cover of it is a picture of Megan fishing
when she was like nine or something. That's the single
cover whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
I thought it was Winny. I thought it was your daughter,
I know.

Speaker 6 (01:03:01):
And she's almost that all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
I just love it, buddy. It's really nice to hear
like that. You're in this phase of your life where
everything is just getting softer and more comfortable, and you know,
you're just getting to ease into enjoying things as opposed
to were We were all groomed to hustle and be
about the hustle, and so it's really nice to see you,

(01:03:28):
as a lifelong friend, be in this phase of just
being comfortable.

Speaker 6 (01:03:32):
Well, I appreciate that. You know, we know the hustle
has shifted to parenting, which is actually the greatest hustle
I've ever yeah, I've ever been a part of. It's
like you're managing a drunk psycho. I've realized all the time.
But it's like that you're obsessed with you know, It's
like right, it's wild, but no, I love it and
I want to save all my energy for that. And

(01:03:53):
you know I love talking to you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Yeah, I love talking to you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Is going to hit you up to perform at.

Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
Every fundraiser, well we applied to It's like, you know,
I play music. I ain't coming to play for the kids'
you know, so yo, I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Love it all right, you guys stick around, listen to
Tyler's newest song, and we will catch you very soon, manny.

Speaker 6 (01:04:15):
I love you guys, so great to see you, great
to see you. Bye, guys.

Speaker 12 (01:04:20):
When it range like this guy's falling down, pouring.

Speaker 7 (01:04:26):
About h so at first, then starts to burst like
a drum, cool morning. Well, sometimes I feel like one
in a million, the man against the.

Speaker 12 (01:04:46):
Mess when it range it's strange.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
I complaining it oh, way the past when it rains
in looking back corner swall suporn a time when last

(01:05:19):
seemed longer, last seemed easy, and still fell liked b.

Speaker 10 (01:05:28):
Well, sometimes I feel like one in a million, a
man against the mass when it arranged strange. I ain't
complaining that it was way the past. When it range

(01:06:09):
like its doing now, all.

Speaker 6 (01:06:12):
The sounds seem to me.

Speaker 7 (01:06:18):
To rearrange till hear your name.

Speaker 12 (01:06:21):
Man, it's calling her to me.

Speaker 13 (01:06:27):
Well, I feel lucker one a million and the mankins
the mess. When it arrange strange, I complained, Let it wash.

Speaker 12 (01:06:43):
Wait the past. When it rains, it's strange, I complained,
Let it wa wash ways the past stop.

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