February 14, 2022 • 47 mins
The Drama Queens are blessed by sweet Tyler Hilton, who played the opposite-of-sweet Chris Keller.
Did you know that Hilarie and Sophia are the reason he met his wife!?
Tyler reveals that he assigned himself a VHS crash course of One Tree Hill before joining the cast. He became such a fan that he was actually nervous around the actors and thought they might not want to be friends with him.
And a significant script choice … Chris Keller always refers to Chris Keller as "Chris Keller." Discover the origin of why he refers to himself in the 3rd person.
We give this Hilton a 5-Star rating.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, you don't know me. We're all about
that high school drama. Girl drama girl, all about them
high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in
our comic girl cheering for the drama Queen's Girl Fashion.
But you'll tough, girl, you can sit with us girl
Drama Queens, NA Queen's Drawn, MC Queen's Drama Drawn, MC
(00:21):
Queen's Drama Queens. Oh hey, friends, UM, here's the thing.
We're real neck deep in this two part situation. We're
obsessed with this episode. Uh, but one of the silver
linings of such a dark, heavy episode with so many
feelings is that we get some glorious Chris Keller action. Uh.
(00:45):
He is handsome, he is talented, he's a pig, and
we love all those things person love to hate. Um,
we are so lucky that Tyler Hilton is joining us
this episode. I love boys, give him to us. He's here,
and we're all sweating. We're so excited. We've been waiting
(01:11):
so long. Where is he? Where is he? Where is he?
Where is he? He's a super dad. It looks exactly
the same shot. Why do you just get more handsome
ladies and gentlemen? Please, welcome, the inimitable, the extraordinary, the
(01:32):
insanely handsome and talented wholer. Hilton goes, I love that, Boddy.
You're a Canadian now, Oh yeah, I'm a dad. I'm
a dad. I'm a full time dad, part time Canadian
and when I do music and podcast with you guys,
(01:55):
Oh my god, are you just going to join us
permanently as our fourth host? Yeah, I'll be like for sure. Honestly,
you're wearing You're wearing red and green right now. It's
kind of perfect. You do look like Robin Began dresses me.
That's in quarantine. Actually, Megan, just make sure this whole
thing processes. Yeah, And I'm doing full time like kids stuff.
(02:15):
While she's like so busy, like writing full time. Everyone
wants a script from her. So I'm just on dad duty.
And then she'll come in trim my eyebrows, give me
a hair co and then that's how it works for
people at home. They don't know you're talking about Megan Park,
your wife who was also on a Team Drama TV show,
do you, guys? I mean, I've spent enough time with
(02:36):
you outside of work. I know we all just bitch
about Team Drama together but um, was that like a
was that like a point of like connection. When you
guys met, you were like, hey man, you kiss and
cry for a living, I kiss and crap for living.
Was okay, wait, this is crazy. So I've told the
story a million times and I've forgot you guys are
here because you guys, Okay, you guys actually are the
reason that Megan I met. Don't even know what you
(02:59):
were doing a promo all of us for once. You're
here in Texas somewhere were I don't know where we were. No,
it wasn't honey girl. But I was about to like
run a marathon and that was my last press thing
was with you guys. And so before I ran it,
I said, hey, you guys want to shave my head
to a mohawk? And we run a mall and Sophia
and Hillary we went to a place and you guys
shaved my hand to mohawk. So we made at the
(03:21):
Mall of America. Tyler, Well that's right, Okay, we're at
the Mall of America, like shut down this haircut place
for us, and you guys shaved my hand new mohawk.
While my agent has been submitting me for this movie,
and every time she submits me, they're like, no, he
looks like a backstreet boy. This is for a drug dealer.
We can't have him coming in an audition. And so
after you guys cut my hair, I told my agent, Hey,
(03:42):
I forgot to tell you I was doing this, but
I shaved my head to a mohawk, and she was like,
are you kidding me? Like, now I knew new pictures
of you, I can't send you out for stuff. She's like,
send me a screenshot of your mohawk and let me
see how it look. Then to this movie casting director
and see if they'll even get you in the room
now that you have a mohawk for this drug dealer
part got the in my logo cuffs on here, Yes,
(04:03):
I got them, bar Yeah you did. And that's where
I met Megan. She was a local hire on this
Canadian movie, had never done American stuff or whatever, and
I met her day one filming that show. Because of
the mohawk. Oh my god, come full circle. You also
you rocked that mohawk and you were so good in
(04:24):
that movie. Oh I loved it. So have you been
so have you been writing music since you've had your daughter,
or is it sort of like on a back burner
because there's so many I mean, I know when I
had my daughter, I was not writing any music for
a while. I was just so overwhelmed with kids. I
(04:45):
haven't written a ton. I've written some stuff that the
natural songs that come out when you're not thinking about it,
they kind of come out right now. She's like, no, no, no,
dada because she knows I started to space out and
she didn't like wheels on the bu And we have
our whole kind of like song list we go through
and so oh that's so great, Oh my god, sweet
(05:07):
baby girls. You guys, I thought that'd be so cool.
But um, there's no time, like not to do whatever.
But like I feel like I unload the dishwasher four
times a day. I was cleaning peas out of the bathtub.
I was like, when did she have peas? And so
it's like it's just a whole different world. But I've
been living on a bus and an RV for like
fifteen years. I remember telling you guys, and remember bitching
(05:32):
to Lee a lot about this and being like I
gotta get off the road, man, Like I don't know
how to but I just gotta stop. And so this
kind of thing has been so nice, like just taking
care of her, just beating in one spot sweatpants every day.
I just the only content I want. And I do
feel bad for the people listening because I realized this
(05:52):
is close friends, but we are. I just want to
watch you guys sledding every day. That's all I want.
Just you taking winning on like snow adventures. That's all
I want. It's not Megan, Megan. Megan just post these
videos of how in love with the both of you
she is and I'm just like, yep, that's that's a dream.
That's all I want from the internet today. You know,
(06:13):
it's like my life right now is so simple and
so beautiful. Never it's never been so simple. It's one
of the real cool, bright moments of this horrible last
two years. Is it so small? That's cool? It must
be crazy too to be you know where you are.
You know, as you said, you've been a touring musician.
(06:34):
You've you've worked all over the place and on movies
and TV shows and Megan's you know, winning audience awards
for the movies that she's making, and you guys are
raising your daughter and now you're up in Canada, Like,
is it crazy from from all this life to pause
and look back on this episode from when was this
two thousand three? No, two thousand four or two thousand five,
(06:55):
Like does it feel like such a trip to see
all of us when we were little babies, amies? It
makes me every time I see something like that, I
feel like, I can't believe how cool you guys always were,
and I can't believe how lame I was. That's what
I think. I look at that, I'm like, I can't
believe you hung out with me. God, you're kiddy, You're crazy,
(07:15):
and you guys are like just so cool, and you guys,
it's just like, it's so funny. You guys all look
so dope on the show. I watched it back, I
was like, oh my god, I know that's how we
felt when we first started watching it was it's a trip.
It took a minute to kind of get over you
guys were doing this. I was like, I can't believe
they're going to subject themselves to what are you talking about?
We were adorable, Tyler, we were fun man were on
(07:37):
the brewery days Tyler's Tyler was just saying that like
he feels like a dweet when he watches this and
that we look cool, and I'm like, well, we do
to make fun of ourselves. Those pants. Did you see that?
The but the pockets on my butt started on my
thigh on those terrible pants. It's not they gave white
girls butts back then little points for like you know
(08:00):
what I mean? Oh yeah, oh yeah, God, you were great.
I love watching this back because we we had so
much fun together filming these scenes. And I first of all,
didn't remember this was season two. There's so many things
that popped out that we were like, wait, this is
season two. I thought I thought this was season three
or four five, or you know, like all these things
(08:22):
that we thought. It's all kind of like jamming together now,
um in our brains. But I remember when they hired
you and brought you down and you and I just
had instant chemistry. We had instant friendship. It was like
we got on so well, um, and we had so
much fun. Which you're easy, too, super easy to have
fun with, Tyler Um. And what was that like for
(08:43):
you coming down to Wilmington's A had you been to
Wilmington's before? Be how many sets had you been on
before and see getting into Chris Keller's mindset. I mean,
just talk to us about your whole setup and getting
down there. Yeah. It's funny because when I first got
down so my label had set it up initially to
come on the show and play, I think, promote my
(09:04):
single and I think Mark kind of off handedly written
this character and it wasn't It was supposed to be
a two episode thing, just to like have a singer
come on and then um and I noticed that. So anyway,
I didn't know anything about the show. I'd seen the
preview and I was like, okay, cool. I just I
didn't even have a place to watch TV. I was
just like on the road and then gotton. I was
(09:25):
just so out to lunch. I remember the front office
said would you like to watch them episodes of the show,
and I was like, yeah, yeah, A cardboard box of
VHS tapes thousand three or whenever this was. And I
went there and I bought an all in one TV
v You had to buy it. They didn't just like
(09:46):
give you one, no, and I didn't. When I got
back to the hotel room, I was like, oh, I
don't have a VHS player, and vcr ye. So then
I watched episode when I was like, let me watch
the pilots, see what's happening. I watched the entire season
in one weekend. I was obsessed with myself because then
when I went on set, I wasn't like, oh, hey,
(10:06):
what's up, Sophia, I'm Tyler. I was like, oh my god,
that's bro. Oh my god. On Friday, I wouldn't have
known anything about the show. By Monday, I was super
fan accidentally like okay, so um, so the first Dawn
set was harder than it needed to be for me
because I was like, shoot, I'm really like this is
surreal all of a sudden. Um, I was just watching
the show. Uh. But I noticed too, they started writing
(10:31):
more stuff like you and I started getting along well,
and I noticed they were kind of writing us doing
more stuff together, and they were yeah, I mean you
were like starting to sing more together off set and
do that kind of stuff, and they wrote it into
the show and it was like, just just cool, dude,
we need you to know that that end scene when
Chris Keller kisses Haley, we were screaming and all sweating, like, guy,
(10:56):
I don't know, I don't remember this Tyler. Maybe it's
because you're you're such like a solid dude in all
of our lives and you've never been a creep with
any of us. We looked back on this scene and
we were like, oh my god, the chemistry. Oh my god,
I'm sweating. This is very sexy. What's happening? Like I'm
I'm sweating even now, like because I feel weird talking.
(11:17):
It's embarrassing to be like, hey, you still got a
bit in love? That was sorry, and you know, I
was like, you know, I was like young and you know,
joys like hot and older, and you know it's like real.
You know, well, you came in. You played such a
specific character, like we were all moody, broody kids and
(11:38):
you came in, and it's really easy as an actor
to kind of fall into the rhythm of all the
people around you. Like when you're working with people who
use Batman voice, you end up using Batman voice where
you're like, what's going on? Um, how like who did
you model Chris Keller after? Did you have a type
that you were like, oh, this is this is what
I'm after or is that just a part of you
(12:00):
that you never let out before you were there my
first scene, and so that was when I and I
think the deals. I don't even know if he was
supposed to be that much of like a jerk or whatever,
but I mean he was kind of. But there was
something I did with it, maybe because I was nervous
or whatever, and I was just an extra. I just
became more and more of like an asshole, I don't know,
(12:22):
like a funny dick or something. And then as we
made it funnier, the writers kept making it funnier, and
then I just kept playing into it and it was
just this. That's what I loved about the show is
they were writing they would take things that we were
in real life and then make them um even cooler
on the show. So little Ques and you guys always
like hating on me. It was so funny. Every time
(12:42):
you guys were like, you know, I think they love that.
So they just kept piling more and more jokes on me,
and it was the best I like loved it. Character ever,
you really provided comic relief on the show that we
needed that it wasn't um, it wasn't totally superfluous or fluff,
because there was substance to your charcter and and there
was like a reason that we needed you. There wasn't
(13:03):
just like some you know, peripheral comedy, you know, not
like a court jester, right right. But but you also
you know, there was like there was a gravitas to
what you had to offer in within on the context
of our story. But there was so much comedy that
we need and we didn't really have anybody like that,
like the lovable jerk. We had the real jerks and
(13:24):
the like super toxic dudes. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because
as you're talking about it, I'm realizing, you know, first
season that was kind of my job was to be
like lovable but kind of And now Brooke is like
very deep in her feelings and she's just crying all
(13:44):
the time, and Chris comes in and and I do
remember we thought you were going to be in and
out and then you were so funny that they kept
writing more and more and more for you. But I'm
realizing in this moment, I don't know the answer. I
wonder if you do. Do you remember when Chris Keller
talking about himself and the third person started, did you
(14:05):
he had or did they do that? Like where did
that come from? Happen, because my god, the first time
you were like, Chris Keller is tired. I was like,
what the It was so good that you would like
at the end of the take you didn't even look
at you right now, I hate you. Like I literally
they'd be like cutting, like I hate you. I can't
even Oh my god, we would um yeah, I don't
(14:29):
even know where that started. It's so crazy. I mean,
it just kind of became a joke on a joke
of himself, but like such a hilarious character and also
such a trope of like early two thousand's like misogyny,
and so it was nice to like, oh my god,
that's what Chris Keller is. He's walking misogyny, you know.
And once you know it, then you're like, oh, I
know what this is, shop By in the Water's warm friends,
(14:53):
And well, once you know what it is, it's defect.
You're just like this guy, um, which is actually a
really smart and progressive way of highlighting all of the
ridiculous tropes and all the all the things that were
toxic and ridiculous and accepted at the time in society.
(15:15):
To have a character that was just calling all those
things out and just sort of living them openly in
a comedic way. We could all laugh at it, but
we're also like, oh yeah, guys to do that, and
it is okay, and that's weird. But I don't feel
so great about that, you know. And so much of
that too, I feel like was because we became friends
(15:36):
so quick, like the three of you guys, and I did,
like as soon as I met you, we were like
hanging out every night. Were one yet or were we
sneaking you into bars? You guys? Were you guys were
all older than me? You guys like and I was nineteen,
Were you and James the same age? Younger than he was? Seventeen? Yes?
(15:59):
Season season one he was so season two he was eighteen. Yeah,
we were twenty two. You were twenty. He was eighteen,
and he wasn't really hanging that's right, because he was
kind of like hanging with his college kids. And we
were like, oh yeah, we didn't want to corrupt him.
Well you didn't, but it's just crazy how close we
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all became. And I think that like that chemistry, and
also like when my labels like they want you to
come back, would you want to come back? I was like,
I want to spend the rest of my life so fun.
How many episodes did you end up doing because you
were there after I left? I don't remember. But the
funny thing is somebody told me that I actually ended
up doing more episodes of that show Extant with your
(16:43):
Husband than One Tree That's not possible. I think that
was on the show like every and with One Tree Hill,
I was on tour right comming episodes. This is what's
so screwed up about Tyler is that we started doing
One Tree Hill and he was supposed to be older
than us, right, And I'm like, you're like a big bully,
you jerk face. And then we go onto our next
(17:05):
job where we're supposed to play the same age. We
did a Christmas movie together and we're supposed to be
like friends from school and we like the same pain.
And then we do extent where I'm like definitely older
than you and like your boss, you know, and he
stays the same age, and I just get older and
older and older and some bullshit Tyler. Tyler and Antoine
(17:27):
are drinking the same secret sauce. Antoine played a seventeen
year old for seventeen back in to a Once or
He'll reboot and play seventeen year old skills. Yet oh
my god, I mean it's feasible. I have a picture
of you from extent. We're like, you're being hung like
I don't know what, I don't, I didn't what happened.
(17:48):
But you're also flipping off my husband's camera. You're like right, Honestly,
Drama TV is hilarious, like what we do. Can't laugh
at it. In the moment they wrote this scene, I
told you not. They took me aside to be like, hey,
we have to tell you something heavy is happening to
your character next episode. You're going to hang yourself. AM
like that's really heavy. Serious, yeah, yourself, you know. And
(18:13):
then there and I was like okay, like thinking like, well,
thank you guys for having me on the show. This
has been wonderful. You survive, halle Berry cuts you down
and saves you, and she and gave you And I
was like, wait, so I have to like play this serious.
It's like I can't be like this hilarious coming and
I'm hanging from the ceiling and they cut me down
and I'm gonna send I'm gonna send our producer that
(18:34):
picture of you because it is the perfect professional transition
from Chris Keller to this like super nerd. You can
do it all, but after the ridiculousness of one ridiculousness
of one Tree Hill, you can pretty much do anything
at this point, Like you had to jump in the
river at one point, Like what was the dumbest thing
(18:55):
you had to do on our show? Jumping in the river?
Thing was so cool, it was so cool. They're just
like funny story from that night where this I'm still
kind of learning the ropes of being on set and
blah blah. And this guy comes up to me on
set more on the riverboat and I was like, I
don't know why I said this to him, but I
was like, hey, man, what's your name? Oh cool cool hey,
cool hair. And he was like, oh thanks, It's like whatever.
(19:16):
And then they were like, dude, that's your stunt double.
They have awake ye I call them cool hair, Like
what a funny thing to say to someone, But also
like if my double and that's such as they were
jumping into I'm talking to a guy wearing my exact
war dub. Didn't even face me. His hair is his name,
(19:37):
Like wow, that's a great cut, genius, You're a secret narcissist.
We won't tell anybody. It's so good. You look wonderful.
You guys are like, and I say this to everyone,
you know, you guys are like incredible actors. It's not
the case on drama shows, but you guys came out
the gate um killing it. I think that's one of
(19:58):
the reasons the show is so believable. Well, even though
so many crazy things happened on because you literally incredible actors.
It's crazy. So I got I mean the first Sandy
was walked the line with recent Joaquine guys and it
was like an education and nobody was as patient with
me as you guys were. You know, so well you
came in a tweet for you and like, really game listen,
(20:21):
I'm just gonna say it because we've been friends forever now.
When I found out that Elvis was coming to our show,
I was like, dudes and for a world of hurt,
like we are going to kiss him. He is darling,
and then you should have been. You just had such
like good dude energy. It was like, oh, we can't
jump him. We're going to make him our friend forever. Pet.
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What's cool is that even though we loved you so much.
We had to pretend that we hated you, and you
had so much fun with that. It was so hard.
It was really hard bust out laughing all the time
because we could just couldn't handle you were so good
at being at your straight face comedy. I couldn't. I
couldn't handle it. Do you remember how many times we
(21:10):
just broke apart, like we just couldn't. I couldn't look
at you. There were times when you would be delivering
your lines and it was on my coverage and I
could not look at you. I'd have to look to
the left or like to your ear or something. They
just would fall apart, like you always had to be bummed,
and I'd be like commenting about your pregnancy. Heres you
(21:31):
always had. That's so appropriate, it's so good. How did
they approach you about because we eventually go on actual tour?
I mean you and I were on a tour bus
for a while. How long was that was? Like a month?
Two months? Uh? It might have been two months. It
felt like like my entire youth was that tour, Like
(21:53):
to happened two hours wild, because so many things can
happen one day. You don't know what city, you're and
but it's just crazy. And I brought a cat on
the bus apparently, which I don't remember, but I guess
that that tracks that our drummer was like allergic to
cats and or something like that, like like nobody wanted
(22:16):
to tell her. No, I think I think they, you know,
God bless her. I think it was like, oh, Joey
camping your cacus, someone's allergic. And then Joy came on
with the cats. So it's kind of just like, you know,
it's like a you know, spaced out you know what
that tracks to like twenty year old me? It tracks
twenty year old all of us something. There's pills for that, right,
taking a look with Brat Brat, Well, I'm sorry, but
(22:40):
but how do they approach you? How do they approach
you about doing this tour? And and did it did
you have to cut other things out of your life?
Was there? Like what was the I mean, how did
that all happen for you? You know? Once I came
on the show. Then Warner Brothers, who was releasing all
the records for Once Your Hill, got stoked about the
collaboration between David artists on the label. That's so I
(23:04):
think they started spinning the whole thing up like it
was working, all of us hanging out. It was a
great musician, and so it was like, okay, now our
characters are singing together, and it was just kind of
a natural somehow sun Kissed got involved. God, Tyler, I
have the portrait of like you, me and Daniel at
the sun Kissed party in Miami, just like cheese in
(23:24):
it up, making those executives happy. You're so good at it.
Everywhere it was like Sun Kissed Me and the show,
and then we just wanted they were involved in our
Mall of America thing. He'll you guys can obviously toggle
this part when when your internet cut out. Tyler was
telling the story of getting the part in the movie
where he met Megan because you and I shaved his
(23:44):
head into a mohawk at the Mall of America. Oh interesting,
isn't that crazy? And I have photos of the three
of us not knowing what to do in front of
that huge sun kiss step and repeat, So we're just
pretending to tango, Like what are we doing? But that's
what we were doing that night. There were so many
poor choices at sun cast parties. Um, Tyler, you grew
(24:11):
up doing musical theater in public school, and I need
you to talk about it because Chris Keller comes in
like such a cool bro um. But because I've heard
stories about this, I need the rest of the planet
to know, Like, was it Grease was Greece? The play
that literally was like Megan man and think in a sec.
(24:34):
But I was just dancing with Winnie this morning. Megan
and I both were, and then We Go Together came
on and I was like with it and Megan's like,
this is when you pikeud like freshman moment of your life,
and I was like, actually, looking back is one of
the greatest moments. So stupid, but like theter was the
best musical theater boy. And I also connected to major.
(24:58):
Oh yeah, it's all the time. On the bus we
would just sit there and bust out into musical theater songs.
I remember I learned into the Woods and Labyrinth like
a love of Labyrinth. I remember we would always who
never got I think you really into it? And I like,
I can quite figure out that movie. Did you intend
to like it? For joy? I know, but I definitely
(25:22):
watched it. I definitely watched it. Wait did we did
you do you watch it at my house? Did you
come over and we watched that? Oh? Because I had that? Um,
I didn't have a TV. I had some antique red
velvet couch that was super uncomfortable. Do you remember this?
I remember you don't know what you had, like the projector, right,
And I had no TV. I had a projector. I
(25:43):
painted a giant white square on the wall and had
a projector. And that's yeah. I think that's where we
watched Labyrinth. Yeah, and I was obsessed with it. And
that's right. All these years I've been deluding myself that
we shared a love of Labyrinth. But dance dance, Yeah, no,
Tyler has it was just being polite. Yeah, he's got
that full David Bowie outfit and he wears it all
(26:04):
the time. Still a nerd all on my own. It's okay,
No way. When he goes to David Bowie and Labor
for Halloween, you'll know it was. Yes, you guys had
coordinating Halloween costumes at my Halloween parties. Didn't you come
as the cow from Giant? Oh my gosh, yes, Verry right, James,
(26:25):
Dean Hudson, Paul Wilkes, Rock Hudson, you were Jamesteen. I
was Elizabeth Taylor and Lee Norris was the cow. I
have pictures of that somewhere. You guys got the photo
is like a unit. Um oh yeah, you know you
were you were overweight Peter Pan one year or you
(26:48):
were like a with a beard. We had a beer gun.
Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, you're good for you
truly are We did something crazy. It was fun in
the beginning to like I remember early season two when
I first came on, we were still doing like viewing
parties where every Tuesday or whenever aired, we'd go to
someone's house and watch it. I remembered, and it was
(27:10):
such a cool like go team spirit and beginning and
we did that used to be either at your your
house or who's house My house? No, I think Sophia's house. God,
I felt like that was in later seasons, but yeah,
I guess we started that as early as season two.
Well that's been. It all blurs together, guys. Look what
I just found such a good look all that we
(27:37):
did that you cut my hair and went to go
to the movie. Came from the movie to that sun
kissed party. So that was literally after right there. We
bookended give me another haircut, so I get another cool movie. Yeah,
what do you want now? How about like a power mullet.
We'll just let the back kind of like ease and this.
Um okay, So what are you working on now? Because
(27:58):
you've been doing music the whole time you've been home, Um, Megan,
is you know killing it directing and stuff and you
have been juggling family, You've been doing you've been playing
shows virtually. Yeah. Yeah, So I like started a Patreon
so I could do like cool month shows on there,
so if anyone wants to check it out, you and
they were fun but on paton an hour and hook
(28:21):
up my like cool Mike and stuff and just do
like good stuff. Can we make requests? Yes? I love
that honestly. What you want to sing some song sometimes
or something? Yeah? Sounds That's also such a nice thing
to be able to figure out how to work from
home in a pandemic, but also to give people like
(28:44):
something to look forward to and watch. I know, I
know one of the things I've missed the most in
the last two years is live music. So basically all
I'm saying is I'm going to subscribe to your Patreon
immediately and then become your number one Internet I'll tell you,
I'll give you the password. I was going to do
it for a dollar. I did it for five bucks.
I just wanted to be like so cheap that like
(29:05):
anyone could come, because yeah, you're a good dude. Man.
This is the longest I've gone without playing a show.
You know, every Cancelder. But you know, I did some
scoring stuff for Megan's last movie and I loved it,
and so I think I'm gonna be doing most of
scoring for the next movie or whatever. That's great. Scoring
is so fun, and I could see how you'd be
(29:26):
really good at that too, because you are a really
intuitive musician. I mean, we were just saying when we
were watching the episode, what a brilliant songwriter you are,
and I feel like it's it's not just because it's
not just putting things together. I mean, you you really
are feeling you're you're a great lyricist, but you also
are an intuitive musician. And so to be able to
(29:47):
watch a film empathize with what's happening in the story
and create something from that, I could I could definitely
see how that would be really easy for you. Yeah,
and it's definitely that's like my not real skill set,
like writing Dr Luke pop songs, Like I wish that
was my skill sex like a billionaire. Yeah, this is
(30:09):
my thing where I can watch something really easily and
just write music too. I don't know why. How many
did you write songs for our show? Or did we
just happen to like get the hit Yeah we got
the bops? Oh wait did I? I don't know. I
think I just premiered them on the show always yeah, yeah,
I think I just sing, Yeah, I just I think
I sing like ten songs. Yeah, so many. Do you
(30:32):
have a favorite song that you featured on the show?
What probably you'll ask for me was probably one of
my favorites in And I think I did kind of
write that for the show for the Tech episode. I
had it almost finished and I finished it for the show.
But some for some reason, that song just it's like
there's like a longing and like there's something about it
(30:53):
just reminds me of the show in such a like warm,
cool way. I never get tired of Planet, and it's
always just the moment when I play it live, I
feel like we all just like love One Tree Hill
in that moment. Well, such like when we do conventions
and stuff, the conventions where you play feel real, you know.
It's it's like we're back in season two and you
guys are on tour and the fans are getting the
(31:14):
opportunity to relive something from you know what, seventeen years ago,
and it's such a blurring of the fact and the fiction.
We watched you do it in Paris the first time
we went to Paris. You played a show there and
it was like, these kids are like, oh my god,
it's real, It's real. I think that's why the tour
was so successful too, is that because people were like
(31:36):
getting to actually experience One Tree Hill coming out of
their TV box and into their real life. And it
felt like we were playing all the time join and
that we're jamming. I remember, Sophia, you were such a
fan of all that I was writing. I was playing
at your guys house all the time on the piano
whenever there was a party, Like we sang so much,
you know, we really did, and there was something too.
(31:57):
I think it's so cool to look back and realize
it isn't just hitting in the zeitgeist at that moment,
which obviously it did so powerfully. But it's evergreen. You
guys made things, and not many artists in their early
twenties get to look back on what they were making
then and say, oh my god, it lasts forever. But
you guys, there was such magic between you two on screen,
(32:21):
and I think between all the friendships we built and like,
you made stuff that is still classic. We still want
to hear it all the time. And that's so freaking
cooking sexy together and I'm just gonna say it, and
it was so it's so hard to watch all these
years later because I mean, I've talked about watching stuff
back is Peyton, like, oh, I didn't realize I was
(32:42):
putting out that vibe like you know, and to I
guess at the time in our early twenties, I didn't
realize like how steamy your stuff. About everything we were
doing with Steavy, everything was like a wink and everything. Yeah,
But at the time we all were like, that's a
bad guy. He's hitting on that girl and she's in
a relationship. And now we're like, oh no, they just
(33:05):
oh god, I mean, should she go with him? I
honestly feel for Chris Keller in this episode because I'm like,
he's not wrong. She did buckle down real early. You
know you made a mistake. The best line that studio
that we filmed that in. That's the actual studio that
(33:26):
they booked for Joy and I to record When the
Stars Go Blue out there. So we are real hanging
Joy and I in that room. That so real sometimes
like you're in that room by ourselves working out when
the Stars Go Blue? Should do it like a walt
She would do it slow fast. You and I are
trying to work out the and not to be whatever.
(33:46):
But I was a professional musician and you're just really talented,
but have it, you know. So I was like that's great,
you know, encouraging. So it's just this, Yeah, you're now
we're in a room filming it, saying so many of
the similar things, and it's crazy. That's a trip that
it was the same. Yeah, you know what. That song
came on the radio a month ago in Charleston or
two months ago in Charleston. I was, which is so weird.
(34:09):
I was in a store and usually if a song
from Ontrhill comes on. We talked about this before. We
were like if somebody punking us, yes, and like kind
of what's going on? But we had I had my
mask on, and I was just like in the corner
shopping in a in a honey store for like local
honey on the radio, and it was on. It was
(34:32):
just on the radio, like they were just playing a
regular radio station. There was no iPod or anything. And
in our song and I'm sitting there picking out honey,
like sharing sour wood honey or blossom honey, And all
of a sudden, I started hearing my voice come on
the radio. And I was like, what is going on?
And nobody knows I'm there, nobody's looking at me, there's
no nothing that's not being but and I just poked Maria.
(34:54):
I'm like it was like as soon as I was like, Maria, listen,
this is me, then your voice comes on. She's like, Mom,
I think you're losing your mind. You have to wait,
just wait wait. So in later seasons, I haven't seen
the seasons that I'm not in Chris Keller and Haley
ever like go back to playing music together? Does it
(35:15):
ever happen again? Uh? Oh? Wait? Are we doing it?
In season nine? Oh? I really don't know. I think
I was hanging with Chase. I think they I think
my love interest was Stephen COLLETTI that's right, that's right.
I would love to. I love that they gave me
(35:37):
had a best friend relationship you never seen on shows
never not to be whatever, Like actually we never talked
about like I can mark my life by like best
friends at that moment, and who I was like my
best friend. It's just so funny that that was the
cute thing. It was Chase and Chriss soup for you too.
For our musicians here, what show on television right now
(36:01):
would you want to play music on? Because it really
it was. It was an integral part of our show.
And so if there's like a dream show where you
two could go and like play characters, jamming with your guitars,
what would that be? She wasn't even doing that now.
I don't know, are there I wanted to do Glee?
Like I know you would have been so good on Glee,
(36:26):
And like what a dark ending for that whole situation,
Like just like it almost feels too soon to talk
about for such probably all our favorite shows, yeah to
talk about, but I know I'm trying to think of anything.
That's what are the musicals onto? I mean, it doesn't
have to be our show wasn't a musical, it was
just the music was naturally like Joy loves Yellowstone. I
(36:49):
could see you guys sitting around like a cowboy campfire.
Oh you me and Ryan Bingham? Oh how fund that being?
Are you not on? You should? I was like, you
yellow you should be on Yellowstone. I feel like it's
to your joy on a horse on yellow Stone. Yellowstone.
(37:09):
That submitted some songs for because I was like, there's
never been a show that's more perfect for me to score.
I know exactly what to do with it. Yes, yo,
and they got someone else. I don't like it, but
because I love that. What's the guy? Taylor Sheridan. Yeah,
I did submit a theme song for three. It didn't
get picked. I didn't get picked, but it was a
(37:31):
good would be so good on that show to John,
I would love that. But I just need to see
y'all singing together again. We gotta find something. Well. You
sent me that song, and I was going to tell
you I have a meaning to sing on it, but literally,
like Megan is so swamped, and that means I'm like full,
So I haven't even found a time. Don't even worry
about it. It's okay. Favor with Megan and her mom
just to do this podcast right now. That's how But like,
(37:54):
don't don't worry. I'm reading a new musical and I
sent Tyler was like, I've got this song. I want
to hear a mail voice sunny way. Will you throw
something down for me? Well? I love that the baddest
boy on our show became a girl dad and is
now like, you, gentle bunny, I'm so proud of you.
Are you gonna let Winnie watch this one day? Oh?
That's a that's Megan's apartment. It doesn't matter what I'm Megan,
(38:16):
don't have an opinion out the way I but she
I don't know what kind of phases she's gonna go
through right now if it happened, She's she's insisting on
calling me Tyler. It's the craziest thing. He's like A.
He's like, hey, Megan, Hey Tyler, Tyler, can I have
some more duck puffs? And she says it like Tyler,
(38:39):
not Dad, And I'm like, in my gut, I'm like,
do I really care enough to change it? It's so
funny and I've never felt more seeing It's like, how
WoT I get her out of her crib in the morning.
She's like, good morning, Tyler. Yeah, you know you guys
you have a special bode. You're gonna have to come back.
(39:00):
You have to come back, especially for honey Grove. I
know we mentioned it, but we we need you back
all the time because this five minutes is not enough. Well, yeah,
I'll just even if you guys have some other guests on,
I'll just sit here on mute and just hanging out. Yeah,
just okay, look at you. Oh I should have played
a song next time I come on a place. Yeah,
you bad, I'll Oh my gosh, that's a great idea.
(39:27):
Don't need it. I love you. I'll just sit like this.
We love you, ty Just all those girls man love
you so much. Tyler. It's great to see you. We'll
do this again soon. You. My heart is breaking. I
just love him so much. Perfect person. He's a perfect person.
Tyler is a kind of person he bends over even
(39:50):
like the grumpiest people like yeah, you know, like my
boyfriend on One Tree Hill didn't love every dude that
we were friends with because they would like feel threatened.
I don't know anybody that doesn't love Tyler and think
that he's just like magic. He's a magic it really is.
And he's and he's so the thing is that he's
actually super smart and he carries a lot of um.
(40:10):
He's got a strong backbone, like he really carries a
lot of integrity with him. And you know, you can
spend any amount of time just kind of surface time
hanging with Tyler and he's great with anybody. But when
push comes to shove, he knows what he stands for,
he knows what he believes in. He has no problem
like putting his foot down or standing up for his
friends or you know, jumping in the way if there's
(40:30):
something coming at you. He's great. I mean, he's truly
a great guy. Also real fun shot with so you know, okay,
I like duality. Oh god, it was just so fun
to have him on the show. I can't wait for
him to come back and sing to us while we
watch the Honey Grove episode. It's gonna be great. I
need it. Well, we're gonna go to a break and
(40:52):
we'll come back and spin a wheel and wrap this up. Y'all.
Welcome back to part two of season two, episode ten.
Don't take Me for granted. Everyone. Where we left off
last week, we discussed the explosive, the very the very sexy.
(41:15):
We were surprised. We all started to sweat the very
sexy moment where Chris Kaylor where Chris Keller Chris Kaylor
or I'm like Chris Hailey, very sexy moment where Chris
Keller kisses Hayley James. There's another very sexy moment that
happens with Chris Keller in the recording studio. Yeah it
(41:39):
was sexy, you too, Okay, give it to him. Were sex.
I was just so surprised. What do you think, Joy,
that was some old movie star macho. I loved it.
I'm sorry, I loved it. I did too. Well, Yeah,
it doesn't bother me one bit. You didn't like it, Hill, Well,
I mean I saw, yeah, I saw a little bit
(42:02):
of Dan in there that was a little like like
Hayley said, it's handled, She said, I can deal with this,
and he still went like choked the dude out. You
know that's because men speak to each other in a
different language and he's not going to get the same message,
you know what I mean, Like some if a guy's
hitting on your wife there, you can't sit down and
(42:25):
be like hey man, listen. Um, I just really feel
like I'm uncomfortable with this, and I'm my wife has
it handled, but I just know like there is a
visceral response that a lot of men have that I
think only comes from you know, violent duking duking it out,
like they need to just feel the presence of another
man that's like, hey, I'm the dog here, Like I'm
(42:46):
the alpha dog here and you need to sit down. Well,
it doesn't mean are they are teenagers? Also, what I
will say, it's so funny you point that out. Hell,
because I hadn't even seen I hadn't thought that Nathan
seemed like Dan. I was like, oh, there's a little
bit of old Nathan. And because a bad boy she
sees through Chriss Bs He's like, oh, I know exactly
(43:09):
what kind of man you are. And my wife might
not see it because she is an innocent angel, but
I see it and I'm gonna kick your ass. And
I liked it. But as someone who has hung out
in the trenches, what I see is because Nathan escalated
it to physical violence, it makes Haley still going to
(43:30):
see Chris. It lets Chris know that she's gonna do
whatever that she wants. It gives him so much power
to be like, is willing to come kick my ass?
And you still won't stay home? Like it. Had Nathan
not gotten involved in Haley came to the studio to
be like, Okay, well we can't really talk, it would
(43:51):
have seemed like her decision. And now what it telegraphs
to Chris is this is a woman trying to break
out on her own and she's got a daddy to
return to that she's out I like answer to, and
she's still showing up like it just gives Chris power. Wow,
I do see what you're saying, and there is something
bad than that. But now what I'm wondering is what
(44:11):
about Nathan, Like does he is he just supposed to
get walked all over and disrespected? Like why isn't he
able to stand up for himself and his you know,
the situation that he's in. I guess I just hang
out with more passive aggressive dudes, like if Nathan had like,
you know, like broken his guitar accidentally, Like oops, oh boy,
(44:33):
my friends, it's real time. Can I get get cold?
They're stalking? That's funny, that's not like, oh my god,
you're like a wizard Joy saw the whole list of
them and out of like you know the ones that
are cycling through, she automatically knew which one we were getting.
(44:54):
Give it to him, girl. The winner is who is
most likely to get coal in their stocking. I mean,
our guest today was kind of on brand for those questions.
I think so character the character, not real person character totally.
Chris Keller is just asking for a whole pile of
(45:17):
coal in his Christmas stocking? Do you think he was
like a bad little boy? Like did Chris Keller? Was
he like the bad kid that started fires? He was like,
definitely the kid who pants other kids in school always
get into trouble. Yeah, he probably had absentee parents too. Well.
I was going to say, he strikes me as like
(45:38):
like a boy who had a single mother who was
a real MoMA's boy, but didn't want anyone at school
to know, like he's got that where he's like, really,
I just want all these girls to hug me and
love me and touch me and gives me. But um,
I'm gonna light a fire and pants you. Chris hilarious,
you naughty boy? Um okay, but who in real life
would can we answer that are we allowed to say that? Really?
(46:00):
I think we all know the real answer. But well,
let's maybe we'll keep it to ourselves. Trying to think
if there's anyone that we can we can jokingly put
out there. Um no, I think it's more interesting for
you at home to discuss who do you think? Who
do you think? Part of our tribe? It is going
(46:20):
to get Why don't you hit us with that in
our in our Instagram posts? Um, it's not me, I'm
a princess and it's not any of you. Not it,
not it? These lovely ladies never trouble. I've never Um, guys,
this was a really funny This is a massive episode. Yeah, frankly,
(46:44):
I'm exhausted. So uh, let's hope next week is gentle
on us. I doubt it. What do we have next week? Guys?
Next week is episode eleven called The Heart Brings You Back?
All right, see you next week, everybody. Thanks for hanging out, Hey,
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Queen's Drama Queens. Oh hey, friends, UM, here's the thing.
We're real neck deep in this two part situation. We're
obsessed with this episode. Uh, but one of the silver
linings of such a dark, heavy episode with so many
feelings is that we get some glorious Chris Keller action. Uh.
(00:45):
He is handsome, he is talented, he's a pig, and
we love all those things person love to hate. Um,
we are so lucky that Tyler Hilton is joining us
this episode. I love boys, give him to us. He's here,
and we're all sweating. We're so excited. We've been waiting
(01:11):
so long. Where is he? Where is he? Where is he?
Where is he? He's a super dad. It looks exactly
the same shot. Why do you just get more handsome
ladies and gentlemen? Please, welcome, the inimitable, the extraordinary, the
(01:32):
insanely handsome and talented wholer. Hilton goes, I love that, Boddy.
You're a Canadian now, Oh yeah, I'm a dad. I'm
a dad. I'm a full time dad, part time Canadian
and when I do music and podcast with you guys,
(01:55):
Oh my god, are you just going to join us
permanently as our fourth host? Yeah, I'll be like for sure. Honestly,
you're wearing You're wearing red and green right now. It's
kind of perfect. You do look like Robin Began dresses me.
That's in quarantine. Actually, Megan, just make sure this whole
thing processes. Yeah, And I'm doing full time like kids stuff.
(02:15):
While she's like so busy, like writing full time. Everyone
wants a script from her. So I'm just on dad duty.
And then she'll come in trim my eyebrows, give me
a hair co and then that's how it works for
people at home. They don't know you're talking about Megan Park,
your wife who was also on a Team Drama TV show,
do you, guys? I mean, I've spent enough time with
(02:36):
you outside of work. I know we all just bitch
about Team Drama together but um, was that like a
was that like a point of like connection. When you
guys met, you were like, hey man, you kiss and
cry for a living, I kiss and crap for living.
Was okay, wait, this is crazy. So I've told the
story a million times and I've forgot you guys are
here because you guys, Okay, you guys actually are the
reason that Megan I met. Don't even know what you
(02:59):
were doing a promo all of us for once. You're
here in Texas somewhere were I don't know where we were. No,
it wasn't honey girl. But I was about to like
run a marathon and that was my last press thing
was with you guys. And so before I ran it,
I said, hey, you guys want to shave my head
to a mohawk? And we run a mall and Sophia
and Hillary we went to a place and you guys
shaved my hand to mohawk. So we made at the
(03:21):
Mall of America. Tyler, Well that's right, Okay, we're at
the Mall of America, like shut down this haircut place
for us, and you guys shaved my hand new mohawk.
While my agent has been submitting me for this movie,
and every time she submits me, they're like, no, he
looks like a backstreet boy. This is for a drug dealer.
We can't have him coming in an audition. And so
after you guys cut my hair, I told my agent, Hey,
(03:42):
I forgot to tell you I was doing this, but
I shaved my head to a mohawk, and she was like,
are you kidding me? Like, now I knew new pictures
of you, I can't send you out for stuff. She's like,
send me a screenshot of your mohawk and let me
see how it look. Then to this movie casting director
and see if they'll even get you in the room
now that you have a mohawk for this drug dealer
part got the in my logo cuffs on here, Yes,
(04:03):
I got them, bar Yeah you did. And that's where
I met Megan. She was a local hire on this
Canadian movie, had never done American stuff or whatever, and
I met her day one filming that show. Because of
the mohawk. Oh my god, come full circle. You also
you rocked that mohawk and you were so good in
(04:24):
that movie. Oh I loved it. So have you been
so have you been writing music since you've had your daughter,
or is it sort of like on a back burner
because there's so many I mean, I know when I
had my daughter, I was not writing any music for
a while. I was just so overwhelmed with kids. I
(04:45):
haven't written a ton. I've written some stuff that the
natural songs that come out when you're not thinking about it,
they kind of come out right now. She's like, no, no, no,
dada because she knows I started to space out and
she didn't like wheels on the bu And we have
our whole kind of like song list we go through
and so oh that's so great, Oh my god, sweet
(05:07):
baby girls. You guys, I thought that'd be so cool.
But um, there's no time, like not to do whatever.
But like I feel like I unload the dishwasher four
times a day. I was cleaning peas out of the bathtub.
I was like, when did she have peas? And so
it's like it's just a whole different world. But I've
been living on a bus and an RV for like
fifteen years. I remember telling you guys, and remember bitching
(05:32):
to Lee a lot about this and being like I
gotta get off the road, man, Like I don't know
how to but I just gotta stop. And so this
kind of thing has been so nice, like just taking
care of her, just beating in one spot sweatpants every day.
I just the only content I want. And I do
feel bad for the people listening because I realized this
(05:52):
is close friends, but we are. I just want to
watch you guys sledding every day. That's all I want.
Just you taking winning on like snow adventures. That's all
I want. It's not Megan, Megan. Megan just post these
videos of how in love with the both of you
she is and I'm just like, yep, that's that's a dream.
That's all I want from the internet today. You know,
(06:13):
it's like my life right now is so simple and
so beautiful. Never it's never been so simple. It's one
of the real cool, bright moments of this horrible last
two years. Is it so small? That's cool? It must
be crazy too to be you know where you are.
You know, as you said, you've been a touring musician.
(06:34):
You've you've worked all over the place and on movies
and TV shows and Megan's you know, winning audience awards
for the movies that she's making, and you guys are
raising your daughter and now you're up in Canada, Like,
is it crazy from from all this life to pause
and look back on this episode from when was this
two thousand three? No, two thousand four or two thousand five,
(06:55):
Like does it feel like such a trip to see
all of us when we were little babies, amies? It
makes me every time I see something like that, I
feel like, I can't believe how cool you guys always were,
and I can't believe how lame I was. That's what
I think. I look at that, I'm like, I can't
believe you hung out with me. God, you're kiddy, You're crazy,
(07:15):
and you guys are like just so cool, and you guys,
it's just like, it's so funny. You guys all look
so dope on the show. I watched it back, I
was like, oh my god, I know that's how we
felt when we first started watching it was it's a trip.
It took a minute to kind of get over you
guys were doing this. I was like, I can't believe
they're going to subject themselves to what are you talking about?
We were adorable, Tyler, we were fun man were on
(07:37):
the brewery days Tyler's Tyler was just saying that like
he feels like a dweet when he watches this and
that we look cool, and I'm like, well, we do
to make fun of ourselves. Those pants. Did you see that?
The but the pockets on my butt started on my
thigh on those terrible pants. It's not they gave white
girls butts back then little points for like you know
(08:00):
what I mean? Oh yeah, oh yeah, God, you were great.
I love watching this back because we we had so
much fun together filming these scenes. And I first of all,
didn't remember this was season two. There's so many things
that popped out that we were like, wait, this is
season two. I thought I thought this was season three
or four five, or you know, like all these things
(08:22):
that we thought. It's all kind of like jamming together now,
um in our brains. But I remember when they hired
you and brought you down and you and I just
had instant chemistry. We had instant friendship. It was like
we got on so well, um, and we had so
much fun. Which you're easy, too, super easy to have
fun with, Tyler Um. And what was that like for
(08:43):
you coming down to Wilmington's A had you been to
Wilmington's before? Be how many sets had you been on
before and see getting into Chris Keller's mindset. I mean,
just talk to us about your whole setup and getting
down there. Yeah. It's funny because when I first got
down so my label had set it up initially to
come on the show and play, I think, promote my
(09:04):
single and I think Mark kind of off handedly written
this character and it wasn't It was supposed to be
a two episode thing, just to like have a singer
come on and then um and I noticed that. So anyway,
I didn't know anything about the show. I'd seen the
preview and I was like, okay, cool. I just I
didn't even have a place to watch TV. I was
just like on the road and then gotton. I was
(09:25):
just so out to lunch. I remember the front office
said would you like to watch them episodes of the show,
and I was like, yeah, yeah, A cardboard box of
VHS tapes thousand three or whenever this was. And I
went there and I bought an all in one TV
v You had to buy it. They didn't just like
(09:46):
give you one, no, and I didn't. When I got
back to the hotel room, I was like, oh, I
don't have a VHS player, and vcr ye. So then
I watched episode when I was like, let me watch
the pilots, see what's happening. I watched the entire season
in one weekend. I was obsessed with myself because then
when I went on set, I wasn't like, oh, hey,
(10:06):
what's up, Sophia, I'm Tyler. I was like, oh my god,
that's bro. Oh my god. On Friday, I wouldn't have
known anything about the show. By Monday, I was super
fan accidentally like okay, so um, so the first Dawn
set was harder than it needed to be for me
because I was like, shoot, I'm really like this is
surreal all of a sudden. Um, I was just watching
the show. Uh. But I noticed too, they started writing
(10:31):
more stuff like you and I started getting along well,
and I noticed they were kind of writing us doing
more stuff together, and they were yeah, I mean you
were like starting to sing more together off set and
do that kind of stuff, and they wrote it into
the show and it was like, just just cool, dude,
we need you to know that that end scene when
Chris Keller kisses Haley, we were screaming and all sweating, like, guy,
(10:56):
I don't know, I don't remember this Tyler. Maybe it's
because you're you're such like a solid dude in all
of our lives and you've never been a creep with
any of us. We looked back on this scene and
we were like, oh my god, the chemistry. Oh my god,
I'm sweating. This is very sexy. What's happening? Like I'm
I'm sweating even now, like because I feel weird talking.
(11:17):
It's embarrassing to be like, hey, you still got a
bit in love? That was sorry, and you know, I
was like, you know, I was like young and you know,
joys like hot and older, and you know it's like real.
You know, well, you came in. You played such a
specific character, like we were all moody, broody kids and
(11:38):
you came in, and it's really easy as an actor
to kind of fall into the rhythm of all the
people around you. Like when you're working with people who
use Batman voice, you end up using Batman voice where
you're like, what's going on? Um, how like who did
you model Chris Keller after? Did you have a type
that you were like, oh, this is this is what
I'm after or is that just a part of you
(12:00):
that you never let out before you were there my
first scene, and so that was when I and I
think the deals. I don't even know if he was
supposed to be that much of like a jerk or whatever,
but I mean he was kind of. But there was
something I did with it, maybe because I was nervous
or whatever, and I was just an extra. I just
became more and more of like an asshole, I don't know,
(12:22):
like a funny dick or something. And then as we
made it funnier, the writers kept making it funnier, and
then I just kept playing into it and it was
just this. That's what I loved about the show is
they were writing they would take things that we were
in real life and then make them um even cooler
on the show. So little Ques and you guys always
like hating on me. It was so funny. Every time
(12:42):
you guys were like, you know, I think they love that.
So they just kept piling more and more jokes on me,
and it was the best I like loved it. Character ever,
you really provided comic relief on the show that we
needed that it wasn't um, it wasn't totally superfluous or fluff,
because there was substance to your charcter and and there
was like a reason that we needed you. There wasn't
(13:03):
just like some you know, peripheral comedy, you know, not
like a court jester, right right. But but you also
you know, there was like there was a gravitas to
what you had to offer in within on the context
of our story. But there was so much comedy that
we need and we didn't really have anybody like that,
like the lovable jerk. We had the real jerks and
(13:24):
the like super toxic dudes. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because
as you're talking about it, I'm realizing, you know, first
season that was kind of my job was to be
like lovable but kind of And now Brooke is like
very deep in her feelings and she's just crying all
(13:44):
the time, and Chris comes in and and I do
remember we thought you were going to be in and
out and then you were so funny that they kept
writing more and more and more for you. But I'm
realizing in this moment, I don't know the answer. I
wonder if you do. Do you remember when Chris Keller
talking about himself and the third person started, did you
(14:05):
he had or did they do that? Like where did
that come from? Happen, because my god, the first time
you were like, Chris Keller is tired. I was like,
what the It was so good that you would like
at the end of the take you didn't even look
at you right now, I hate you. Like I literally
they'd be like cutting, like I hate you. I can't
even Oh my god, we would um yeah, I don't
(14:29):
even know where that started. It's so crazy. I mean,
it just kind of became a joke on a joke
of himself, but like such a hilarious character and also
such a trope of like early two thousand's like misogyny,
and so it was nice to like, oh my god,
that's what Chris Keller is. He's walking misogyny, you know.
And once you know it, then you're like, oh, I
know what this is, shop By in the Water's warm friends,
(14:53):
And well, once you know what it is, it's defect.
You're just like this guy, um, which is actually a
really smart and progressive way of highlighting all of the
ridiculous tropes and all the all the things that were
toxic and ridiculous and accepted at the time in society.
(15:15):
To have a character that was just calling all those
things out and just sort of living them openly in
a comedic way. We could all laugh at it, but
we're also like, oh yeah, guys to do that, and
it is okay, and that's weird. But I don't feel
so great about that, you know. And so much of
that too, I feel like was because we became friends
(15:36):
so quick, like the three of you guys, and I did,
like as soon as I met you, we were like
hanging out every night. Were one yet or were we
sneaking you into bars? You guys? Were you guys were
all older than me? You guys like and I was nineteen,
Were you and James the same age? Younger than he was? Seventeen? Yes?
(15:59):
Season season one he was so season two he was eighteen. Yeah,
we were twenty two. You were twenty. He was eighteen,
and he wasn't really hanging that's right, because he was
kind of like hanging with his college kids. And we
were like, oh yeah, we didn't want to corrupt him.
Well you didn't, but it's just crazy how close we
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all became. And I think that like that chemistry, and
also like when my labels like they want you to
come back, would you want to come back? I was like,
I want to spend the rest of my life so fun.
How many episodes did you end up doing because you
were there after I left? I don't remember. But the
funny thing is somebody told me that I actually ended
up doing more episodes of that show Extant with your
(16:43):
Husband than One Tree That's not possible. I think that
was on the show like every and with One Tree Hill,
I was on tour right comming episodes. This is what's
so screwed up about Tyler is that we started doing
One Tree Hill and he was supposed to be older
than us, right, And I'm like, you're like a big bully,
you jerk face. And then we go onto our next
(17:05):
job where we're supposed to play the same age. We
did a Christmas movie together and we're supposed to be
like friends from school and we like the same pain.
And then we do extent where I'm like definitely older
than you and like your boss, you know, and he
stays the same age, and I just get older and
older and older and some bullshit Tyler. Tyler and Antoine
(17:27):
are drinking the same secret sauce. Antoine played a seventeen
year old for seventeen back in to a Once or
He'll reboot and play seventeen year old skills. Yet oh
my god, I mean it's feasible. I have a picture
of you from extent. We're like, you're being hung like
I don't know what, I don't, I didn't what happened.
(17:48):
But you're also flipping off my husband's camera. You're like right, Honestly,
Drama TV is hilarious, like what we do. Can't laugh
at it. In the moment they wrote this scene, I
told you not. They took me aside to be like, hey,
we have to tell you something heavy is happening to
your character next episode. You're going to hang yourself. AM
like that's really heavy. Serious, yeah, yourself, you know. And
(18:13):
then there and I was like okay, like thinking like, well,
thank you guys for having me on the show. This
has been wonderful. You survive, halle Berry cuts you down
and saves you, and she and gave you And I
was like, wait, so I have to like play this serious.
It's like I can't be like this hilarious coming and
I'm hanging from the ceiling and they cut me down
and I'm gonna send I'm gonna send our producer that
(18:34):
picture of you because it is the perfect professional transition
from Chris Keller to this like super nerd. You can
do it all, but after the ridiculousness of one ridiculousness
of one Tree Hill, you can pretty much do anything
at this point, Like you had to jump in the
river at one point, Like what was the dumbest thing
(18:55):
you had to do on our show? Jumping in the river?
Thing was so cool, it was so cool. They're just
like funny story from that night where this I'm still
kind of learning the ropes of being on set and
blah blah. And this guy comes up to me on
set more on the riverboat and I was like, I
don't know why I said this to him, but I
was like, hey, man, what's your name? Oh cool cool hey,
cool hair. And he was like, oh thanks, It's like whatever.
(19:16):
And then they were like, dude, that's your stunt double.
They have awake ye I call them cool hair, Like
what a funny thing to say to someone, But also
like if my double and that's such as they were
jumping into I'm talking to a guy wearing my exact
war dub. Didn't even face me. His hair is his name,
(19:37):
Like wow, that's a great cut, genius, You're a secret narcissist.
We won't tell anybody. It's so good. You look wonderful.
You guys are like, and I say this to everyone,
you know, you guys are like incredible actors. It's not
the case on drama shows, but you guys came out
the gate um killing it. I think that's one of
(19:58):
the reasons the show is so believable. Well, even though
so many crazy things happened on because you literally incredible actors.
It's crazy. So I got I mean the first Sandy
was walked the line with recent Joaquine guys and it
was like an education and nobody was as patient with
me as you guys were. You know, so well you
came in a tweet for you and like, really game listen,
(20:21):
I'm just gonna say it because we've been friends forever now.
When I found out that Elvis was coming to our show,
I was like, dudes and for a world of hurt,
like we are going to kiss him. He is darling,
and then you should have been. You just had such
like good dude energy. It was like, oh, we can't
jump him. We're going to make him our friend forever. Pet.
(20:49):
What's cool is that even though we loved you so much.
We had to pretend that we hated you, and you
had so much fun with that. It was so hard.
It was really hard bust out laughing all the time
because we could just couldn't handle you were so good
at being at your straight face comedy. I couldn't. I
couldn't handle it. Do you remember how many times we
(21:10):
just broke apart, like we just couldn't. I couldn't look
at you. There were times when you would be delivering
your lines and it was on my coverage and I
could not look at you. I'd have to look to
the left or like to your ear or something. They
just would fall apart, like you always had to be bummed,
and I'd be like commenting about your pregnancy. Heres you
(21:31):
always had. That's so appropriate, it's so good. How did
they approach you about because we eventually go on actual tour?
I mean you and I were on a tour bus
for a while. How long was that was? Like a month?
Two months? Uh? It might have been two months. It
felt like like my entire youth was that tour, Like
(21:53):
to happened two hours wild, because so many things can
happen one day. You don't know what city, you're and
but it's just crazy. And I brought a cat on
the bus apparently, which I don't remember, but I guess
that that tracks that our drummer was like allergic to
cats and or something like that, like like nobody wanted
(22:16):
to tell her. No, I think I think they, you know,
God bless her. I think it was like, oh, Joey
camping your cacus, someone's allergic. And then Joy came on
with the cats. So it's kind of just like, you know,
it's like a you know, spaced out you know what
that tracks to like twenty year old me? It tracks
twenty year old all of us something. There's pills for that, right,
taking a look with Brat Brat, Well, I'm sorry, but
(22:40):
but how do they approach you? How do they approach
you about doing this tour? And and did it did
you have to cut other things out of your life?
Was there? Like what was the I mean, how did
that all happen for you? You know? Once I came
on the show. Then Warner Brothers, who was releasing all
the records for Once Your Hill, got stoked about the
collaboration between David artists on the label. That's so I
(23:04):
think they started spinning the whole thing up like it
was working, all of us hanging out. It was a
great musician, and so it was like, okay, now our
characters are singing together, and it was just kind of
a natural somehow sun Kissed got involved. God, Tyler, I
have the portrait of like you, me and Daniel at
the sun Kissed party in Miami, just like cheese in
(23:24):
it up, making those executives happy. You're so good at it.
Everywhere it was like Sun Kissed Me and the show,
and then we just wanted they were involved in our
Mall of America thing. He'll you guys can obviously toggle
this part when when your internet cut out. Tyler was
telling the story of getting the part in the movie
where he met Megan because you and I shaved his
(23:44):
head into a mohawk at the Mall of America. Oh interesting,
isn't that crazy? And I have photos of the three
of us not knowing what to do in front of
that huge sun kiss step and repeat, So we're just
pretending to tango, Like what are we doing? But that's
what we were doing that night. There were so many
poor choices at sun cast parties. Um, Tyler, you grew
(24:11):
up doing musical theater in public school, and I need
you to talk about it because Chris Keller comes in
like such a cool bro um. But because I've heard
stories about this, I need the rest of the planet
to know, Like, was it Grease was Greece? The play
that literally was like Megan man and think in a sec.
(24:34):
But I was just dancing with Winnie this morning. Megan
and I both were, and then We Go Together came
on and I was like with it and Megan's like,
this is when you pikeud like freshman moment of your life,
and I was like, actually, looking back is one of
the greatest moments. So stupid, but like theter was the
best musical theater boy. And I also connected to major.
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Oh yeah, it's all the time. On the bus we
would just sit there and bust out into musical theater songs.
I remember I learned into the Woods and Labyrinth like
a love of Labyrinth. I remember we would always who
never got I think you really into it? And I like,
I can quite figure out that movie. Did you intend
to like it? For joy? I know, but I definitely
(25:22):
watched it. I definitely watched it. Wait did we did
you do you watch it at my house? Did you
come over and we watched that? Oh? Because I had that? Um,
I didn't have a TV. I had some antique red
velvet couch that was super uncomfortable. Do you remember this?
I remember you don't know what you had, like the projector, right,
And I had no TV. I had a projector. I
(25:43):
painted a giant white square on the wall and had
a projector. And that's yeah. I think that's where we
watched Labyrinth. Yeah, and I was obsessed with it. And
that's right. All these years I've been deluding myself that
we shared a love of Labyrinth. But dance dance, Yeah, no,
Tyler has it was just being polite. Yeah, he's got
that full David Bowie outfit and he wears it all
(26:04):
the time. Still a nerd all on my own. It's okay,
No way. When he goes to David Bowie and Labor
for Halloween, you'll know it was. Yes, you guys had
coordinating Halloween costumes at my Halloween parties. Didn't you come
as the cow from Giant? Oh my gosh, yes, Verry right, James,
(26:25):
Dean Hudson, Paul Wilkes, Rock Hudson, you were Jamesteen. I
was Elizabeth Taylor and Lee Norris was the cow. I
have pictures of that somewhere. You guys got the photo
is like a unit. Um oh yeah, you know you
were you were overweight Peter Pan one year or you
(26:48):
were like a with a beard. We had a beer gun.
Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, you're good for you
truly are We did something crazy. It was fun in
the beginning to like I remember early season two when
I first came on, we were still doing like viewing
parties where every Tuesday or whenever aired, we'd go to
someone's house and watch it. I remembered, and it was
(27:10):
such a cool like go team spirit and beginning and
we did that used to be either at your your
house or who's house My house? No, I think Sophia's house. God,
I felt like that was in later seasons, but yeah,
I guess we started that as early as season two.
Well that's been. It all blurs together, guys. Look what
I just found such a good look all that we
(27:37):
did that you cut my hair and went to go
to the movie. Came from the movie to that sun
kissed party. So that was literally after right there. We
bookended give me another haircut, so I get another cool movie. Yeah,
what do you want now? How about like a power mullet.
We'll just let the back kind of like ease and this.
Um okay, So what are you working on now? Because
(27:58):
you've been doing music the whole time you've been home, Um, Megan,
is you know killing it directing and stuff and you
have been juggling family, You've been doing you've been playing
shows virtually. Yeah. Yeah, So I like started a Patreon
so I could do like cool month shows on there,
so if anyone wants to check it out, you and
they were fun but on paton an hour and hook
(28:21):
up my like cool Mike and stuff and just do
like good stuff. Can we make requests? Yes? I love
that honestly. What you want to sing some song sometimes
or something? Yeah? Sounds That's also such a nice thing
to be able to figure out how to work from
home in a pandemic, but also to give people like
(28:44):
something to look forward to and watch. I know, I
know one of the things I've missed the most in
the last two years is live music. So basically all
I'm saying is I'm going to subscribe to your Patreon
immediately and then become your number one Internet I'll tell you,
I'll give you the password. I was going to do
it for a dollar. I did it for five bucks.
I just wanted to be like so cheap that like
(29:05):
anyone could come, because yeah, you're a good dude. Man.
This is the longest I've gone without playing a show.
You know, every Cancelder. But you know, I did some
scoring stuff for Megan's last movie and I loved it,
and so I think I'm gonna be doing most of
scoring for the next movie or whatever. That's great. Scoring
is so fun, and I could see how you'd be
(29:26):
really good at that too, because you are a really
intuitive musician. I mean, we were just saying when we
were watching the episode, what a brilliant songwriter you are,
and I feel like it's it's not just because it's
not just putting things together. I mean, you you really
are feeling you're you're a great lyricist, but you also
are an intuitive musician. And so to be able to
(29:47):
watch a film empathize with what's happening in the story
and create something from that, I could I could definitely
see how that would be really easy for you. Yeah,
and it's definitely that's like my not real skill set,
like writing Dr Luke pop songs, Like I wish that
was my skill sex like a billionaire. Yeah, this is
(30:09):
my thing where I can watch something really easily and
just write music too. I don't know why. How many
did you write songs for our show? Or did we
just happen to like get the hit Yeah we got
the bops? Oh wait did I? I don't know. I
think I just premiered them on the show always yeah, yeah,
I think I just sing, Yeah, I just I think
I sing like ten songs. Yeah, so many. Do you
(30:32):
have a favorite song that you featured on the show?
What probably you'll ask for me was probably one of
my favorites in And I think I did kind of
write that for the show for the Tech episode. I
had it almost finished and I finished it for the show.
But some for some reason, that song just it's like
there's like a longing and like there's something about it
(30:53):
just reminds me of the show in such a like warm,
cool way. I never get tired of Planet, and it's
always just the moment when I play it live, I
feel like we all just like love One Tree Hill
in that moment. Well, such like when we do conventions
and stuff, the conventions where you play feel real, you know.
It's it's like we're back in season two and you
guys are on tour and the fans are getting the
(31:14):
opportunity to relive something from you know what, seventeen years ago,
and it's such a blurring of the fact and the fiction.
We watched you do it in Paris the first time
we went to Paris. You played a show there and
it was like, these kids are like, oh my god,
it's real, It's real. I think that's why the tour
was so successful too, is that because people were like
(31:36):
getting to actually experience One Tree Hill coming out of
their TV box and into their real life. And it
felt like we were playing all the time join and
that we're jamming. I remember, Sophia, you were such a
fan of all that I was writing. I was playing
at your guys house all the time on the piano
whenever there was a party, Like we sang so much,
you know, we really did, and there was something too.
(31:57):
I think it's so cool to look back and realize
it isn't just hitting in the zeitgeist at that moment,
which obviously it did so powerfully. But it's evergreen. You
guys made things, and not many artists in their early
twenties get to look back on what they were making
then and say, oh my god, it lasts forever. But
you guys, there was such magic between you two on screen,
(32:21):
and I think between all the friendships we built and like,
you made stuff that is still classic. We still want
to hear it all the time. And that's so freaking
cooking sexy together and I'm just gonna say it, and
it was so it's so hard to watch all these
years later because I mean, I've talked about watching stuff
back is Peyton, like, oh, I didn't realize I was
(32:42):
putting out that vibe like you know, and to I
guess at the time in our early twenties, I didn't
realize like how steamy your stuff. About everything we were
doing with Steavy, everything was like a wink and everything. Yeah,
But at the time we all were like, that's a
bad guy. He's hitting on that girl and she's in
a relationship. And now we're like, oh no, they just
(33:05):
oh god, I mean, should she go with him? I
honestly feel for Chris Keller in this episode because I'm like,
he's not wrong. She did buckle down real early. You
know you made a mistake. The best line that studio
that we filmed that in. That's the actual studio that
(33:26):
they booked for Joy and I to record When the
Stars Go Blue out there. So we are real hanging
Joy and I in that room. That so real sometimes
like you're in that room by ourselves working out when
the Stars Go Blue? Should do it like a walt
She would do it slow fast. You and I are
trying to work out the and not to be whatever.
(33:46):
But I was a professional musician and you're just really talented,
but have it, you know. So I was like that's great,
you know, encouraging. So it's just this, Yeah, you're now
we're in a room filming it, saying so many of
the similar things, and it's crazy. That's a trip that
it was the same. Yeah, you know what. That song
came on the radio a month ago in Charleston or
two months ago in Charleston. I was, which is so weird.
(34:09):
I was in a store and usually if a song
from Ontrhill comes on. We talked about this before. We
were like if somebody punking us, yes, and like kind
of what's going on? But we had I had my
mask on, and I was just like in the corner
shopping in a in a honey store for like local
honey on the radio, and it was on. It was
(34:32):
just on the radio, like they were just playing a
regular radio station. There was no iPod or anything. And
in our song and I'm sitting there picking out honey,
like sharing sour wood honey or blossom honey, And all
of a sudden, I started hearing my voice come on
the radio. And I was like, what is going on?
And nobody knows I'm there, nobody's looking at me, there's
no nothing that's not being but and I just poked Maria.
(34:54):
I'm like it was like as soon as I was like, Maria, listen,
this is me, then your voice comes on. She's like, Mom,
I think you're losing your mind. You have to wait,
just wait wait. So in later seasons, I haven't seen
the seasons that I'm not in Chris Keller and Haley
ever like go back to playing music together? Does it
(35:15):
ever happen again? Uh? Oh? Wait? Are we doing it?
In season nine? Oh? I really don't know. I think
I was hanging with Chase. I think they I think
my love interest was Stephen COLLETTI that's right, that's right.
I would love to. I love that they gave me
(35:37):
had a best friend relationship you never seen on shows
never not to be whatever, Like actually we never talked
about like I can mark my life by like best
friends at that moment, and who I was like my
best friend. It's just so funny that that was the
cute thing. It was Chase and Chriss soup for you too.
For our musicians here, what show on television right now
(36:01):
would you want to play music on? Because it really
it was. It was an integral part of our show.
And so if there's like a dream show where you
two could go and like play characters, jamming with your guitars,
what would that be? She wasn't even doing that now.
I don't know, are there I wanted to do Glee?
Like I know you would have been so good on Glee,
(36:26):
And like what a dark ending for that whole situation,
Like just like it almost feels too soon to talk
about for such probably all our favorite shows, yeah to
talk about, but I know I'm trying to think of anything.
That's what are the musicals onto? I mean, it doesn't
have to be our show wasn't a musical, it was
just the music was naturally like Joy loves Yellowstone. I
(36:49):
could see you guys sitting around like a cowboy campfire.
Oh you me and Ryan Bingham? Oh how fund that being?
Are you not on? You should? I was like, you
yellow you should be on Yellowstone. I feel like it's
to your joy on a horse on yellow Stone. Yellowstone.
(37:09):
That submitted some songs for because I was like, there's
never been a show that's more perfect for me to score.
I know exactly what to do with it. Yes, yo,
and they got someone else. I don't like it, but
because I love that. What's the guy? Taylor Sheridan. Yeah,
I did submit a theme song for three. It didn't
get picked. I didn't get picked, but it was a
(37:31):
good would be so good on that show to John,
I would love that. But I just need to see
y'all singing together again. We gotta find something. Well. You
sent me that song, and I was going to tell
you I have a meaning to sing on it, but literally,
like Megan is so swamped, and that means I'm like full,
So I haven't even found a time. Don't even worry
about it. It's okay. Favor with Megan and her mom
just to do this podcast right now. That's how But like,
(37:54):
don't don't worry. I'm reading a new musical and I
sent Tyler was like, I've got this song. I want
to hear a mail voice sunny way. Will you throw
something down for me? Well? I love that the baddest
boy on our show became a girl dad and is
now like, you, gentle bunny, I'm so proud of you.
Are you gonna let Winnie watch this one day? Oh?
That's a that's Megan's apartment. It doesn't matter what I'm Megan,
(38:16):
don't have an opinion out the way I but she
I don't know what kind of phases she's gonna go
through right now if it happened, She's she's insisting on
calling me Tyler. It's the craziest thing. He's like A.
He's like, hey, Megan, Hey Tyler, Tyler, can I have
some more duck puffs? And she says it like Tyler,
(38:39):
not Dad, And I'm like, in my gut, I'm like,
do I really care enough to change it? It's so
funny and I've never felt more seeing It's like, how
WoT I get her out of her crib in the morning.
She's like, good morning, Tyler. Yeah, you know you guys
you have a special bode. You're gonna have to come back.
(39:00):
You have to come back, especially for honey Grove. I
know we mentioned it, but we we need you back
all the time because this five minutes is not enough. Well, yeah,
I'll just even if you guys have some other guests on,
I'll just sit here on mute and just hanging out. Yeah,
just okay, look at you. Oh I should have played
a song next time I come on a place. Yeah,
you bad, I'll Oh my gosh, that's a great idea.
(39:27):
Don't need it. I love you. I'll just sit like this.
We love you, ty Just all those girls man love
you so much. Tyler. It's great to see you. We'll
do this again soon. You. My heart is breaking. I
just love him so much. Perfect person. He's a perfect person.
Tyler is a kind of person he bends over even
(39:50):
like the grumpiest people like yeah, you know, like my
boyfriend on One Tree Hill didn't love every dude that
we were friends with because they would like feel threatened.
I don't know anybody that doesn't love Tyler and think
that he's just like magic. He's a magic it really is.
And he's and he's so the thing is that he's
actually super smart and he carries a lot of um.
(40:10):
He's got a strong backbone, like he really carries a
lot of integrity with him. And you know, you can
spend any amount of time just kind of surface time
hanging with Tyler and he's great with anybody. But when
push comes to shove, he knows what he stands for,
he knows what he believes in. He has no problem
like putting his foot down or standing up for his
friends or you know, jumping in the way if there's
(40:30):
something coming at you. He's great. I mean, he's truly
a great guy. Also real fun shot with so you know, okay,
I like duality. Oh god, it was just so fun
to have him on the show. I can't wait for
him to come back and sing to us while we
watch the Honey Grove episode. It's gonna be great. I
need it. Well, we're gonna go to a break and
(40:52):
we'll come back and spin a wheel and wrap this up. Y'all.
Welcome back to part two of season two, episode ten.
Don't take Me for granted. Everyone. Where we left off
last week, we discussed the explosive, the very the very sexy.
(41:15):
We were surprised. We all started to sweat the very
sexy moment where Chris Kaylor where Chris Keller Chris Kaylor
or I'm like Chris Hailey, very sexy moment where Chris
Keller kisses Hayley James. There's another very sexy moment that
happens with Chris Keller in the recording studio. Yeah it
(41:39):
was sexy, you too, Okay, give it to him. Were sex.
I was just so surprised. What do you think, Joy,
that was some old movie star macho. I loved it.
I'm sorry, I loved it. I did too. Well, Yeah,
it doesn't bother me one bit. You didn't like it, Hill, Well,
I mean I saw, yeah, I saw a little bit
(42:02):
of Dan in there that was a little like like
Hayley said, it's handled, She said, I can deal with this,
and he still went like choked the dude out. You
know that's because men speak to each other in a
different language and he's not going to get the same message,
you know what I mean, Like some if a guy's
hitting on your wife there, you can't sit down and
(42:25):
be like hey man, listen. Um, I just really feel
like I'm uncomfortable with this, and I'm my wife has
it handled, but I just know like there is a
visceral response that a lot of men have that I
think only comes from you know, violent duking duking it out,
like they need to just feel the presence of another
man that's like, hey, I'm the dog here, Like I'm
(42:46):
the alpha dog here and you need to sit down. Well,
it doesn't mean are they are teenagers? Also, what I
will say, it's so funny you point that out. Hell,
because I hadn't even seen I hadn't thought that Nathan
seemed like Dan. I was like, oh, there's a little
bit of old Nathan. And because a bad boy she
sees through Chriss Bs He's like, oh, I know exactly
(43:09):
what kind of man you are. And my wife might
not see it because she is an innocent angel, but
I see it and I'm gonna kick your ass. And
I liked it. But as someone who has hung out
in the trenches, what I see is because Nathan escalated
it to physical violence, it makes Haley still going to
(43:30):
see Chris. It lets Chris know that she's gonna do
whatever that she wants. It gives him so much power
to be like, is willing to come kick my ass?
And you still won't stay home? Like it. Had Nathan
not gotten involved in Haley came to the studio to
be like, Okay, well we can't really talk, it would
(43:51):
have seemed like her decision. And now what it telegraphs
to Chris is this is a woman trying to break
out on her own and she's got a daddy to
return to that she's out I like answer to, and
she's still showing up like it just gives Chris power. Wow,
I do see what you're saying, and there is something
bad than that. But now what I'm wondering is what
(44:11):
about Nathan, Like does he is he just supposed to
get walked all over and disrespected? Like why isn't he
able to stand up for himself and his you know,
the situation that he's in. I guess I just hang
out with more passive aggressive dudes, like if Nathan had like,
you know, like broken his guitar accidentally, Like oops, oh boy,
(44:33):
my friends, it's real time. Can I get get cold?
They're stalking? That's funny, that's not like, oh my god,
you're like a wizard Joy saw the whole list of
them and out of like you know the ones that
are cycling through, she automatically knew which one we were getting.
(44:54):
Give it to him, girl. The winner is who is
most likely to get coal in their stocking. I mean,
our guest today was kind of on brand for those questions.
I think so character the character, not real person character totally.
Chris Keller is just asking for a whole pile of
(45:17):
coal in his Christmas stocking? Do you think he was
like a bad little boy? Like did Chris Keller? Was
he like the bad kid that started fires? He was like,
definitely the kid who pants other kids in school always
get into trouble. Yeah, he probably had absentee parents too. Well.
I was going to say, he strikes me as like
(45:38):
like a boy who had a single mother who was
a real MoMA's boy, but didn't want anyone at school
to know, like he's got that where he's like, really,
I just want all these girls to hug me and
love me and touch me and gives me. But um,
I'm gonna light a fire and pants you. Chris hilarious,
you naughty boy? Um okay, but who in real life
would can we answer that are we allowed to say that? Really?
(46:00):
I think we all know the real answer. But well,
let's maybe we'll keep it to ourselves. Trying to think
if there's anyone that we can we can jokingly put
out there. Um no, I think it's more interesting for
you at home to discuss who do you think? Who
do you think? Part of our tribe? It is going
(46:20):
to get Why don't you hit us with that in
our in our Instagram posts? Um, it's not me, I'm
a princess and it's not any of you. Not it,
not it? These lovely ladies never trouble. I've never Um, guys,
this was a really funny This is a massive episode. Yeah, frankly,
(46:44):
I'm exhausted. So uh, let's hope next week is gentle
on us. I doubt it. What do we have next week? Guys?
Next week is episode eleven called The Heart Brings You Back?
All right, see you next week, everybody. Thanks for hanging out, Hey,
thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review.
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