October 20, 2025 • 49 mins
Lisa Goldstein is here! The long-awaited guest joins the podcast to share how she went from performing as Nemo at Disney to landing her first TV role without ever stepping into an audition room. Lisa opens up about the “Zero Is Not a Size” storyline, Mouth’s weight-gain plot, and the special “souvenir” she snagged from set.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, you don't know me. All about that
high school drama girl, drama girl, all about.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Them high school queens.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We'll take you for a ride.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And our comic girl shared for the right teams.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Drama queens, up girl fashion, but your.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Tough girl, you could sit with us.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Girl drama, queens, drama, Queens drama, queens drama, drama, Queens drama, Queens.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Welcome back to A Q and A. We've been waiting for.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
For years, literally years, literally years.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Rob, Who do we have today? You gave the metaphor.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
I compared this guest. I said, she is our Moby Dick.
We finally landed the big fish and it is the
one and only, the wildly incomparable Lisa Goldstein.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Get her in years.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
My gosh, Oh it's so good to see you.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Oh my god, you're so pretty.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Has not aged a day.
Speaker 7 (01:11):
It's the Bowchox You guys, same girl, same Wait.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Did you just hear Rob's intro for you?
Speaker 6 (01:21):
I was like not involved in that. I was not
didn't hear it?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
What are your feelings about being compared to Moby Dick?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well you have to give her contact?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Maybe, Well, I was going to joy and just wanted
to see what the initial knee jerk very.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Day, I should have more faith in you. Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
It is just because we have for so long tried
to get to you as a guest on this podcast.
I would imagine they've been trying before even I showed
my face here.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Oh yeah, you believe that might be true, and.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
So that it was to that extent that we have
been just working feverishly and here we are are we feel.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
I'm so excited the like the out there.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
We know she's there, we know we'll find her again,
you know, obsession, which in the book is fictional but
for us is very real, very and also to be
so close to the end and to finally have this moment,
I do feel like we've won the power ball. I
would like for us all to also get a billion dollars,
but you know, one thing at a time.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Selfishly, I agree the reason I joined this podcast because
I don't cross paths with you in real life. I
just thought, what if I do this is the long game,
maybe Lisa will be a guest and I'll finally get
to tell her how great she is. Only reason, yeah,
that is so nice.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Did you guys ever have scenes together, Rob.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Not a one, not one, not a single one. See
the end when it was like everybody, yeah, but like
you never interact.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
And I didn't watch the show, so I am rewatching
it basically for that, and I forgot ninety percent of
what happened on the stuff I was involved in. So
I have had such just a unique experience of watching
you and feeling like like I came in just going
like I know Lisa, like we've said hello a bunch
of times, but then I have never seen your work,
(03:21):
and I was like, she's so freaking good. You're just
awesome in this show. And I'm gonna say criminally underused.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Wow, I need more of this than that life.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Oh, anytime, come hang out with this anytime, because I
wish you could. We should find a way to somehow
like gather all the things we've said about you and
just get them into one audio file that you can
just play anytime you're feeling blue, because we talked about
you consistently on this show, but it's you're so talented,
and there are so many times when we are going,
(03:55):
oh my gosh, I can't believe that was on the page,
Like we're listening to the log going that's what was
on the page, and Lisa somehow made it feel real
and grounded and warm, and we feel drawn into her
and I don't. She's magical, Like how does she do this?
You're just so dang good.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
Yes, I mean thanks, I had some doozies. I had
some real buddy, if I can remember.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
You had some doozies.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Yeah, I know, I did.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Your whole Uh. Milly's drug storyline was just.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
The eye roll.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Real quick. It went from like I'm the mo I'll
take these diet hills, I'm addicted to cocaine in like
an episode, and it was I was like, I think
Mike Daniels actually reached out to me and was like, hey,
you need to be prepared for this because this is happening,
and like he's going.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
To tell you, but I'm going to tell you he's
a good egg.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
They were going to just spring that up.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, you became an addict in one episode in forty
three minutes, and I grew two human beings in forty
three minutes in one episode. They sometimes they took the
things that would have been so yummy for us to
like explore, and we're just like.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Speed it up, girls, get to the point.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Oh yeah, we were always too like the if the
episode was like going real slow. I feel like we
were always the ones who like had to rush through
the scenes because yeah, there was no time.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
No time.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
With twenty two, we have been a few storylines on
the show that I have vocally expressed my displeasure and
I would say, I would say it's actually a tie
for first place, but you happen to be involved in
both of them. The first was Millie's tragic after school
special that was a drug storyline, which was just I
(05:52):
mean listen, if you go back and listening to those episodes,
it's fifty percent me just eviscerating how stupid it is,
and fifty percent praising you for somehow making it palatable.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
The other storyline being mouth gaining weight in season.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Nine, Oh my god, and.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Just being like, why are we wasting two terrific actors
on an absolute nothing plot?
Speaker 6 (06:19):
Yeah, season nine was a doozy. It was like, you
know what's funny is I remember the like before we
started filming season nine, on whatever platform that was like
popular at the time, Facebook or Twitter or whatever it was,
Lee posted a picture of him in like plaster of
Paris like on his face, like he was getting a
(06:42):
mold of his face. And I was like, oh my god,
he books something over.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
This is amazing.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
And I like texted him congratulations and he was like
I have to show you and I was like, oh,
what is this and he was like, they have me
in a fat suit this season and I was.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Like work, like.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
How And it was so out of left field. It
was just so bizarre, and I think, like, you know,
we took it on the chin, but part of us
were like this is so dumb, Like this is so dumb.
Sorry guys, that this is dumb. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah. I wish that they had spent more of the time,
like I was joking in the twenty two episodes, to
actually like stretch out storylines to make me feel realistic.
But I don't even know how if they had done that,
how the fat fat suit thing would have worked. It's
just is it's just so so stupid.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
It was like of all, like everybody, I don't remember
a lot about season nine because I was like at
that point when I heard like the fat suit story,
I was like I'm out, Like bye, guys, this is
like I'm gone. But like for the last season, of
a show that is so loved by so many people
(08:07):
to just like mail in a storyline. I mean, yeah,
we're like kind of supporting characters. That's fine, but like,
don't mail in our last like big storyline of like ever,
you know, especially with.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
What you guys had gone through and this really great
rhythm we had just begun seeing with Mouth and Milli
in the morning, Like you guys doing a morning show
was so fun. They could have made that fun. You
could have had you know, he has a little bit
of it. And then Nathan getting kidnapped storyline, but like
(08:42):
you guys could have been very like the good guy
Bonnie and Clyde, like checking in with all the sources
around town. You could have done such cute, which also
is so good for you and Lee because you're both
such brilliant physical comedians like my god Lisa. To Joy's point,
just the sound bites of us talk about like your
physical comedy and your choices and your shoulders and your hands,
(09:03):
like I wish we could just we'll.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Make it happen.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
We'll get you all of our audio, like you're just
so fantastic And as a fan, as a viewer fan
of yours and yours and Lee's together, not just even
as your coworker and friend, but like as a person
who likes watching you on the screen.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
You could have done a million things with them in
the craziness of season nine that didn't require prosthetics or
like a womp womp, you know.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Yeah, it felt real. It's like cheesy isn't even the word.
It's like, I don't know, I can't even find a
word that's like bad.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Enough, lazy, lazy, lazy, just like it's not.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
I don't know, it just wasn't.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I'm wondering because I was in a soap opera for
two years a few years before One Tree Hill, and
we did some crazy stuff like I was a clone
of someone and then and then they brought me back.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You were a pod person of yourself.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah yeah, and then they brought they brought me back
as a completely different character like a year and a
half later, and then I like had to get married
against my will to somebody in the mafia, and like
there was I.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Mean, it was grat Can this be the next show
we recap? By the way, yeah, joy soap opera?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, but it taught me so much about making something
work because it has to be realistic. And I'm trying
to remember how much TV work you had done before
One Tree Hill, So I know we have some questions
for you about this, but I also wanted to kind
of tie that in with this idea that I was.
I was thinking about this, Lisa when we were watching
(10:50):
the episode where you were yelling at Mouth on the
morning show about him being overweight, and it was so
out of character for Millie and it was so strange.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
But if you.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Figured out this, like there was this little sweet pocket
as an actor where you could get away with it,
and it felt like if you didn't dissect it too much,
you buy it. You buy the moment it's okay, and
everything works. That takes real skill and instinct. And I
wondered how much of what you had done before One
Tree Hill, or how much of just like having been
(11:22):
on the show and learning between your crazies all your
other crazy storylines, how much of that prepared you for
being able to like really have this amazing skill.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Okay, I had done zero television before One Tree Hill. None.
I had only done theater, only theater only. This is
my first job on like not first job ever professionally,
but my first job in front of a camera. So
(11:53):
but I will say that I was trained in college
in my and in Stanislaovsky. So Meisner is all about
listening to what is being said to you and responding
honestly like however you're feeling. It's very intuitive. But then
Stanislavsky is like all subtext and like make sure what
(12:17):
you're saying has meaning behind it. So I feel like
I really use the combination of both of those to
like help me, help me through really difficult moments because
if you have if you're listening to what the person
is saying to you and you're responding honestly, like I
don't think that what you're saying could ever really sound
(12:42):
like outlandish because it's an honest reaction. And then if
you have that the subtext, the underlying subtext of like
what you're what you're really saying, because like everything you
say has subtexts in real life kind of helps create
that like reality.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
That's great, it's so great.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Rob coined a term for us. Obviously, we were all
talking at the time about how our show had jumped
the shark so many times, but Rob coined the term
that we really learned how to ride the shark on
our show, Like, my god, you ride that shark so
beautifully in the crazy storylines. But also I don't just
want to focus on what was so ridiculous. There's so
(13:43):
much goodness. And from the time that we meet Millie
in season five, you know when we started also shooting
Wilmington for New York, like creating the like New York City,
like say glass window buildings, like so silly and sweet,
but like to watch the arc of your character or grow,
to watch her find confidence, to watch the hilarity like
(14:05):
the bachelorette party episode, like all of these things that
were just so delicious, Like you and Sharon Lawrence did
things as hungover girls when we woke up in that
suite that were so perfect. Like there's great stuff too,
But to your point about training, like I want to
(14:27):
get into what you loved about it, But when you
were coming to do this show, like what was happening
in your life at the time. I mean, we know,
but like for people at home who have these questions,
somebody literally goes, how did she go from a Disney
princess to starring on One Tree Hill?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Was she a fan of the show before joining, Like,
people have so many questions.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
About what it was like when you arrived. So let's
go back to like the fen part.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, that is fun.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
So I was working at Disney. I was doing Finding
Nimo of the musical. I was in the original cast.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
What did you play?
Speaker 6 (14:58):
I played Nemo, So we had like puppets. We had puppets.
I played Nemo. I played Squirt. I got to like
Squirt was really cool back then. It's not the same anymore.
It has been changed since COVID. But you would fly
in on like this puppet that had like bungee cords
on the side. You'd fly in and you'd be like
(15:20):
bouncing and I'd be doing flips backwards with.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
A puppet, like an Avenue Q puppet kind of.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
It was like Squirt was a puppet that you would
sit in and your legs would be the fins, so
like it looked like the fins were moving, but they
were my leg I'm like miving legs like you can
see it. So those legs would be the fins. And
then his head was where we had these like bike
(15:48):
break puppets, and one side was blinking and one side
was their mouth. So it was nuts.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Great.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Yeah, it was great. And then the Nemo puppet was
like you just hold it and it had like the
bike brakes on like a stick and then you'd control
their eyes in their mouth. Oh but anyway, so I
was doing that and I got in a local agent
and I like sent off this audition for One Tree
Hill and I was like, oh, that's cool, Like I'll
(16:22):
just send it off and we'll put it on tape
real quick. And then I got a call leaving rehearsal
with my friend and my agent like left it on
my voicemail, like you booked One Tree Hill.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
As a voice on your voicemail. Voicemail, not even call
me I have news?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
What? No a voicemail? And I was like, well, you'll
have to listen to this, like can you listen to this?
And she was like you booked you like you booked it.
And I was like this is crazy because never I
had never done film and TV. I didn't even have
a callback, which is crazy crazy, And.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
You just put yourself on tape or did you go
in the room.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
I just put myself on tape. It was from a tape,
and like, I think the reason it was like that
was because it was only a one episode situation at
the time, and I think like all, like everybody kind
of had an idea that maybe we'll be bringing this
(17:24):
character back. But I think it was like day one
was like my test, you know, oh.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
No pressure, having never been a TV set before.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
And I remember Craig was directing, and I had like
this tiny little scene and I forget what it was.
It was like Brooke was like going out to her
like taxi or something, and like then the camera was
just left on me, and like he didn't cut for
a while because he wanted to see what I would do.
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But you know, I kept going and like I did it.
I like breathed and I don't know, I did something
weird and like that was that, and he was like.
I remember at the end, Greg being like, well, we're
going to see you again, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
This is okay.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I love hearing that.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
That's so cool. Oh my gosh. I remember to Rob's point,
like there's so much we've forgotten even though we all
did this, like you did seventy episodes of our show,
And isn't it crazy that someone will ask you about
something You'll be like what, Oh.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Yeah, there's so many things. I'm like, I don't remember that.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yeah, yeah, I remember having the aha moment when we
watched Millie join our universe because you're the reveal with Victoria.
Oh yeah, like you say you know and and you know,
there's something about like Victoria's in your office or whatever,
and you think she's like an executive at the company,
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and then it reveals that she's Brooks mom.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, and you're you're the mister.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
And it was so well done because you obviously aren't
saying in the scene like I'm so scared of her,
but you you and your big beautiful eyes just being
so terrified. And then we meet Victoria Davis and everyone's like,
oh my god. And the dynamic between you two in
the office like the just the way that built in
(19:22):
season five.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Milli was like the perfect little like cream in the
middle of the Oreo sandwich and these twowich.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, but it's like Milly and Victoria are actually such
a unit for this big reveal for Brooks character, and like,
I don't know, you just oh my god, you crushed.
Was it nerve wracking for you to work with Daphne
at first? Like were you actually intimidated by her?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
She walked in on day on me being on set
day one, and I was like, what's her name and
what's her character's name in Spaceball?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Princess Vespa Prince.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
I was like, data is Princess Vespa? Like I on
Spaceball's like second grade me watching all the F bombs
and like all this stuff while my parents are in
the other room, like having a drink or whatever, like
I grew up on Spaceball. So she walked in and
I was like, yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I think we all felt a little bit of that
intuation with da when we first met her.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yeah, well, and we had it with Moira starting in
season one. We would follow her around being like topic, topic,
don't say topic, don't say topic. And then Darny showed
up and it was like what we were like winning
the mom lottery on our show.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Working with Daphne was like, as my oldest daughter would say,
like Daphne is her, Daphne is her, Like she is
like so great, she's so professional, Like working with her
was unbelievable. I loved it.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And Sharon, had you watched the show before joining, did
you know what you were walking into?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Not really? Way back in the day when it was
a pilot. I remember getting like a side for it,
and or somebody I knew got a side for it
to audition for it, and like I knew of the
show and I knew it was popular, but I didn't
watch it. But then at the time, all the episodes
(21:38):
were on soap Net, so I would record them and
like catch up, Like as I was filming, like season five,
I was like catching up at the same time.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Good old soap Net.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Oh my god, soap Net that was.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Real TV that aired at a certain time with commercials.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Oh my god, I need all my children, like circa
nineteen eighty five till I don't know, two thousand and two.
I just feel like I need that back in my life.
I literally would put it on every day.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah. I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
It's like your comfort, yeah, because it's the things that
we grow up watching when we're kids.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Yeah, it's like your guilty pleasure.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
So you we obviously've already covered the Milli low lights
as they were, But what are some of your Millie highlights? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Oh, like all the fun stuff I was trying. I
think Brook's wedding was super fun. That was so fun
for me to fill like just being like a little
tipsy and like coming in on the conversations that people
are having that are serious and like, yeah, that was
so fun. I mean, before I before really became a
(22:51):
drug addict, the modeling storyline was pretty fun. Working with
Jana when she first came on the show was really fun.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah that was really so you too were great. You
were such good chemistry.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
You were the buddy comedy I didn't know I needed.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yes, Yeah, for sure, I don't know, I really. I mean,
as like crazy as the storylines were, at the end
of the day, I felt really proud of how I
handled it, like handled all the outlandish things that were
thrown at me, and like even though things were like
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you know, got real crazy, I don't like I don't
think I would. I mean I would probably would change
some stuff, but I just feel proud of like the
the the how it turned out, how I you know,
got through to the finish line.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I guess, yeah, yeah, there were so many things and
you should feel proud.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
We've there have been moments where we've watched someone's performance,
like I Janet jumps to mine and in your tough storylines,
it was the same with you, and like, oh, they're
teflon like, they're so good that even though I'm watching
this going like this story is the worst, I'm going like,
I'm watching a really good actor make very questionable material palatable.
(24:18):
So you should be proud because in the hands of
a lesser actor, I think it would have just been
like an episode breaker.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, than to your point about like when our working
life shifts, as Brooke and Millie and we do are
you're going to go out, You're going to close the show,
we have the big surprise moment. I know for me,
zero is not a size is one of those things
that stands out for the audience and for the fans
as like a thing that they still want to talk about.
(24:47):
How do you do you experience that with people? How
do you feel about the storyline, like now all these
years later, do you feel like it stands up?
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Of course, I mean I think that's great, and I
think that you know, as where you know, as society
is evolving and becoming more accepting and of different body types,
I think it's a really important lesson to teach. And
having a daughter like I make sure that there is
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nothing mentioned in our.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
House about way about same books, about anything like that,
And you know what's so funny is that I was
like the other day, I was.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Like, oh, I gotta die my hair. My graves are
coming out, and she was like, Mommy, Like, you are
beautiful no matter what.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's this new generation.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Yeah it is. And like a message of zero was
not a size is timeless. It's just just.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
As and it was time Lee. I think because we
all did grow up with all the tabloids in the
I mean so much, especially when you're as a child
actor like I was. They were all just like in
the hair and makeup, all of the every magazine, every tabloid,
it was just around. And you know, back in that
day and age, it was all body issue stuff on
the cover of those magazines and rags and so to
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I feel like we were really on the cusp of
that transition and leading the way in that transition to hey,
we need to stop focusing on this stuff. And I'm
really proud of us just as a show that we
got to do that. And so you guys, that was
your storyline, you guys, So I'm sure you're even more
proud of it. But it's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
And we were such a perfect show to deliver that
message given who our demographic was. Yeah, yeah it was.
It really was. For some of the egregious missteps that
our show has had, like we've also had some incredible moments.
And I would say zero is not a size as
like it's in the top two or three, if not
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the top one. But when fans come up to you
and they want to talk about something, is there like
a go to scene or moment or storyline that they
bring up most good question?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I mean it is zero is not a size. It's like,
that's it. And what I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
On the rare.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Occasion that a fan comes up to me, it's usually
like can I take a picture? I loved you? You did
such a good job on the show. And then it's
kind of like done, but in a more when I
get more in depth, it's like zero is not a size,
and Mouth and Milly are so cute they are.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
When you when you moved down to Wilmington, did you
move you moved to Wilmington right, like because you became
a series regular, were you always yeah, okay, I never
know how people were officially build and whatever, But so
when you moved there, did you just get your own apartment?
Did you do what we did. Were you kind of
like roomed with other new people on the show.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
I got my own apartment, Like it was furnished, it
was downtown, like kind of off the beaten track. I
got my own apartment because I was like, I mean
I'm here now, so like, yeah, I better get a place.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Did you and Lee spend a lot of time together
offset just to kind of build that chemistry or was
it already it was just there when you started.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
We already had been like in season five when all
those new people came in every like, I know, I
was hanging out with them, and Lee was hanging out,
Sophia was hanging out. Jane was like it was.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Like so much fun.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
And out and I had a lot of fun, and
so that chemistry like was already kind of there because
we were friendly and then you know, it just kind
of developed over the years.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
That's great, wait to see it. You can see it
on camera for sure.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, we were also in that like it was such
a special moment in time because social media wasn't really
a thing. You could still like go out with people
and not feel like you were being tracked all the time.
You know, like we were going to the brasserie for
mac and cheese, and we were going to see shows
at the soap Box and like, it was such a
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special moment in Wilmington, and I'm so happy we get
to talk about all of this today because I was
just with Lee. There was a convention in Paris and
Rob came and sadly Joy couldn't join, but like a
lot of us were there and Lee and I were
talking about it, and we were like going through our
phones as you do at our age, like going through
(29:25):
pictures of your families, and we were like, man, we're
so happy and lucky. But like, remember when we all
got to live together and go to dinner every weekend
and we had no responsibilities and we were so silly,
and like I was thinking about you and I going
to pilates and learning how to make basil syrup from
Natalie and like, oh, it was just such a special time.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I feel like I remember the basil syrup thing. I
wasn't there, but did you bring someone to work? Like
that definitely just rang a bell in my brain.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Oh, we were obsessed basil syrup, backberry syrup, Like it
was a whole thing, and it just it's like it's
like the yummiest memory to me. It feels like a
It feels like a hot chocolate chip cookie, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Emotionally, so many good things that we all got to
take from One Tree Hill, but you took something from
(30:24):
One Tree Hill that I think is pretty unique and
probably beats what the rest of us took, which is
a hubby. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
I nail I snagged me a hobby at One Tree Hill.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yes, you did. You and MICHAELA. McManus, I know we
nailed life.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Can you tell? I don't know that story? So are
you sure?
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Oh my gosh, okay, I'm so excited.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
So Brendan kersh So he was the sports coordinator, as
you guys know. And right when I remember what Seaton,
I guess it was season six. When season six started,
that was okay. I was moving to Wilmington. I was
like there before everybody because I was just coming up
(31:10):
from Florida and I came in early because I wanted
to find an apartment, and I was like, is anybody here?
Like putting it out in the universe, and Brendan was
the only person who was in town, and I was like,
should go to dinner? Like totally innocent I was like, yeah,
(31:31):
just as friends, let's go to dinner. Now, Brendan thinks
I asked him out.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
We were just going out as friends. But you know,
things progressed from there and like we had chemistry and
you know we I was like, oh, I really like him,
and you know, once the Slamball stuff started filming, that's
when we really started dating and like moved real fast
(32:01):
from there, like we moved in and we got engaged
like a year later, and that was it. It was like,
I don't know, I just was great.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Talk about like location ship that actually like lasted and
has kept going.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, what's the secret?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
What's the secret?
Speaker 6 (32:21):
My best friend? You know, like he always was my
best friend. He always makes me laugh and you know,
and vice versa for him, Like I'm always making him
laugh and like we're we're just each other's person.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
So before you clearly asked him out on a date
before season six, how did you, guys, sweet I'm assuming
then you you all met season five and that's how
you had his numbers.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Yeah, he was like one because he was Him and
James were really close, so he was he was always
going kind of going out with us and hanging out
with us, so I knew him like kind of as
an acquaintance before season six started.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Brendan was like as in the mix as like Rob
for example, Jane Beck, like he was in a posse
of the friends who on camera people and and off
camera people who were all around the same age, who
were just gallivanting around town together on the weekends. And yeah,
you two, I remember as your friend having a moment
(33:30):
where I like heard your laugh and you were laughing
so hard, and then I heard another laugh. I knew
that was so hard, and I will never forget like
turning like this and seeing the two of you, like
I saw the fifty to fifty and your head went
forward and then your head went back, and he was
(33:50):
doubled over laughing towards you, and then his head went back,
and I was like, it was like.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Peo peo pew.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
It felt like the moment in the rom com where
like stars twinkle a little bit, oh God, just like
the sweetest thing the laughter for you too is even
as friends who watched it happen like that was cool.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
It was so it was great.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I mean, on the kids, do you guys have now?
Speaker 6 (34:15):
We well three Gracie is from his previous a previous marriage,
and then we have two together.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Oh my gosh, Lisa, what ages eleven and nine?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
My go.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yes, I mean if anything will will like hut. I
always say kids are like a tangible measure of time.
It's like you can see it.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's crazy and how fast it goes.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, So what is your life like now? Can you tell?
Just tell us a little bit? I mean, we haven't
talked in so long. I know you and I messaged
on Instagram a little bit ago, and Kendra Garrett is
obviously like I both love her and a mutual friend
from Wilmington, and she was like, oh my gosh, I
love Lisa. We've chatted about her, but you and I
haven't actually connected and I don't. I don't know if
(35:08):
you've stayed in touch with a lot of us. So
can you just, yeah, tell us what your life's like now.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
I mean, I'm mostly a mom like I had once
I had our first boy. I was like, that's it,
Like that's what I'm doing because when I was growing up,
my parents had to travel a lot. And I was like,
I'm not like, I'm not doing that. I don't want
to leave my kids. So you're like, my family is
(35:32):
like my top priority right now. So it's like, you know,
soccer practices and East Sports and oh yeah, it's classes
and voice lessons and Minecraft and dog Man and Taylor
Swiss new album and like you know, like all the
things like that are in your world now that weren't before.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah, it's so cool.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Did you sports?
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Yes, Esports. It's like, so my son does Smash Smash Bros. Yeah,
so he does. He has an esports like practice and
then game. So he has practice on Wednesdays and then
a game on Friday where he like they do a tournament.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Oh wow, so fun.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Oh yeah. Interer nerd is so happy.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Oh my god would be like.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
I say inter nerd like I'm not an outer nerd
as well. Yeah I love that all I.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Love a nerd.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
So it feels correct.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
So are you okay? Is that part of why you
decided to step away from acting because you were like,
I'm in this with my kids right now, and I
want to do this part of it.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
I also have like really bad anxiety. So I found
that when I was like always putting myself out there
for auditions and like and that's like your whole job
really as an actor is audition, audition, audition.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Truly it's the worst.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
But I would get into the rooms after one tree
Hill and I would be like, like I would already
be defeated, and I would already like it just wasn't
sustainable for my mental health to continue down that path.
And like, really, for me, the juice wasn't worth the
(37:27):
squeeze anymore. It just wasn't. Like I don't have that
desperate desire anymore to storytell or be on stage or
be in front of a camera. I just don't I
don't know if that like went away after I had
kids or like, I don't know. I kind of like
(37:48):
did everything I wanted to do when I set out
to be an actor, Like I got to be Bell,
I got to be on TV, and like, I don't know,
I got to do so many things, and like, I
don't find I just don't have that desire anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
You also expend so much at creative energy as a parent,
yet it truly fulfills so much. I mean I know
it did for me, Yeah for sure, for sure. I
mean I would go to sleep and be like, oh
what a wow, wild exhausting, daily ahead. But I mean
I read her like seven books in twelve different accents,
and we like, you know, went to the park and
(38:28):
played make believe and we improve with the other kids
at the park. And then I've made dinner with her
and we turned it into a cooking show.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
And then I mean, oh, you're a fun parent, joys fun. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Yeah, I'm gonna be done storytelling. And then your kid
turns to and you're like, all I do is storytelling.
I do fourteen hours of improv a day.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Yeah, And not to mention, like, I'm in Florida, so
it's not like I'm living in a place where, you know,
acting jobs are easily accessible. I would have to travel
to do that, or if I was, you know, do
it working for a theater or whatever. It's like that
would take up the majority of my time. And I
(39:11):
don't want anybody else but me determining what I do
with my time.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah makes sense.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Yeah, to get your agency back is really it can
like alter your chemistry a bit because we just didn't
have it for so long that you get used to
not having it, and then you get a taste of it.
Like COVID for me was my first break and I.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Was like, I get to decide what I'm going to
do with my day.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
I can decide what time I'm going to eat lunch.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Like it sounds so silly, but it really it teaches you,
I think something else about yourself. And then you have
kids and their schedules have to trump everything, and it's like,
what a what a gorgeous thing to give all of
that to yourself.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
Yeah, it's I mean, it feels so right. And like
people ask me, My family asked me sometimes, do you
miss it? And I'm like, no, Like I miss the
relationships more than anything. I don't miss like I don't
miss the grind.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
You know, is there anything? Is there any role, any
any show, any anything that would make you kind of
come out of hiding and be like, Okay, if somebody
just picked the phone and called and said, Lisa, we
saw your work on One Tree Hill. You're amazing and
we need you.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
That is hard. That's a really hard question. I don't know.
I don't know if there is one, to be honest,
because I'm such a perfectionist too, and I've been out
of the game so long that I don't know if
I could give it like what it would need me.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
You know, yeah, because you know what goes on behind
the scenes. It's not just like oh, you get to
come do this thing. It's like I know what that
I know what the grind is.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
Right, Like thinking about going back, like after COVID NEMO,
what's having auditions again? And I was like, oh, let
me think about that. And I was like rehearsing eight
hours a day for three months, six days a week,
and then like doing a show five days a week,
three times a day. I was like, no, I didn't
(41:22):
think so that's easy. Though, Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Didn't you find that? That's one of the natural byproducts
of becoming a parent is that suddenly your free time
because becomes such a scarce resource that it really helps
very quickly you realize what is important to you when
you only have ninety minutes free a day. If that right,
Like you suddenly realize like, of all the people, there's
(41:48):
only two people who you care to call back.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
You know.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
It's like or what activities are going to do? So
it's like when when that way called me back, Rob,
I told you I'm going to call me back to it,
but no, don't you find it? So it's like like
you become a parent suddenly are like, I don't, I
don't know if that's how I want to use that
little island of three time.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
I have totally. That's absolutely right. It's like putting my
energy out in the universe for stuff that, like I
don't know is coming back to me. I want to
put my energy into something that I know will benefit
my kids, me or my husband.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
You know, Yes, I love it. I love it. There's
such a there's such an enchantment. I think people think
of Hollywood and what we do with this glamour still
and I love the dismantling of that and recognizing that
(42:47):
storytelling is hard and takes a lot of work, and
it's not it's not a life for everyone, and there's
so much fulfillment in everybody approaches life differently and needs
something different. And there's lots of things I'm good at
that I don't have the energy to really pursue as
a as a career. Yeah, because exactly what you're saying, like,
(43:12):
I need the things that I prioritize to be things
that are I'm investing in something that's giving back in
a way that's really meaningful. Yeah, So I really I
think it's just so beautiful, the strength and willingness to
prioritize your family and yourself rather than like what people
(43:34):
perceive is this perfect Hollywood life, Like, oh my gosh,
you're on TV. You must have it made, you know.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
You said it, auditioning is the job.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
Auditioning is the worst, unless you're like I love auditions.
It's like it's hard, it's going to be hard.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
And I got news for you. It's there are no
rooms or sessions that. There are very few rooms anymore
post COVID. I mean, I don't know if you've got
to taste this, but it is all self tapes, and
like feedback, you only hear feedback if like you're in
the running, or you booked it, or you did so
bad they never want to see you.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Oh god.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
So it's just you spending hours doing a tape, sending
it off into the void, into the void, and with nothing. So,
like you said, like you want to be sure the
energy you're putting out is being reciprocated that at least
you could get feedback in a room, you know, a chuckle, yes,
some sort of nice thing that's gone. But let me
ask this as as the keeper of MILLI, Yeah, what
(44:30):
what would you if if? What is Milly doing today?
What is Millie's current life like?
Speaker 6 (44:37):
Okay, well, she and Mouth are obviously married with kids.
I don't know how many. I'm sure maybe they've taken
over the TV station or something like that. There's still
like a duo and working professionally together and in tree Hill,
like taking the TV industry there by storm.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
So that love it.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yes, Mouth and Milli in the Morning forever and hour.
Speaker 6 (45:06):
Please, I forgot about Mouth and Million in the Morning.
That was super fun.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
So cute. And as we get to the end of
the season, Milly does this like gorgeously generous thing and
says to Mouth, I love working with you, but I
don't think you're happy. I think you miss sports and
getting In our pen ultimate episode, Mills and Skills, it's
(45:30):
so good highlight reel of the show for me, the.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Way he freezes up and just pretends like everything.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
Winker incredible, incredible, you really are you just you changed
the tree Hill universe for the better.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
Lisa, you're big time barnun And as someone who like
I said, I had no idea what you were up
to while we were there in Wilmington, doing it now
going back and watch, you did such a wonderful job
and you bring such just like grace and levity to
the show and when it gets really outlandish, you ground it.
(46:11):
But if One Tree Hill was your mic drop moment,
which it seems as though for the time being, it
is like what a way to go out because you
just did a phenomenal job.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Thank you were a glue that we all needed in
all the scenes that you were in. You had an
ability to pay attention to what was happening, what everybody
else was doing in the scene, and you knew exactly
what was needed and how to fill it. And that's
that's not always the case. I feel like there's a
lot of times when you see people kind of jockeying
(46:43):
to do the same thing or to they're not playing
off of each other. And you just truly every environment
you walked into, it was like you just became this
adhesive and just brought everything all together. And I'm sure
that's just a you quality that happens in your regular
life too, everywhere you go. And we just wish you
(47:05):
all the best and I don't want to let you go.
It's so sad, but I'm really really glad. We got you,
We got our we got our movie, Dick, we got her.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Call back.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Thank you so much for for being.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
Here, Thanks for having me. It was so fun and
I was so good to see you guys. I'm so
glad I got to do this and we finally made
it work. We did Yeah worth the wait, yay bye guy.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
My, before we go, Before we go, I have a
little piece of cool news.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
I love cool.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
News, no big d but I have got it on
good authority that we have a couple of special guests
that are going to be joining us at our live
show in the Wilmington.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
That's right in the Wilmington, Wilmington.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
Just because we love symmetry, we thought three hosts, let's
do three guests. Guess who we got Tell the people,
Rob mister Sexpylon himself, Austin Nichols. We got him, the
Teflon queen who can just deliver any material and still
make it likable and charming. Jenna Kramer, Hey hey, and
(48:22):
the one the lovable Dufislethario bad boy who talks in
the third person. Chris Keller aka Sweetsweet Tyler Hilton Woo.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
I can't wait, I can't wait. To sit down with
the three of them.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Oh, it's great, It's gonna be great. I'm pumped. Man.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Where can people get tickets?
Speaker 2 (48:46):
The in person wants sold out, but we can watch
it on the live stream, Is that right?
Speaker 5 (48:50):
Yeah? Great question. Joy, I'm so glad you asked. Anyone
can get tickets for the stream at veeps dot com
forward slash Drama Queens. That's veeps v e e ps
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Welcome back to A Q and A. We've been waiting for.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
For years, literally years, literally years.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Rob, Who do we have today? You gave the metaphor.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
I compared this guest. I said, she is our Moby Dick.
We finally landed the big fish and it is the
one and only, the wildly incomparable Lisa Goldstein.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Get her in years.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
My gosh, Oh it's so good to see you.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Oh my god, you're so pretty.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Has not aged a day.
Speaker 7 (01:11):
It's the Bowchox You guys, same girl, same Wait.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Did you just hear Rob's intro for you?
Speaker 6 (01:21):
I was like not involved in that. I was not
didn't hear it?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
What are your feelings about being compared to Moby Dick?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well you have to give her contact?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Maybe, Well, I was going to joy and just wanted
to see what the initial knee jerk very.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Day, I should have more faith in you. Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
It is just because we have for so long tried
to get to you as a guest on this podcast.
I would imagine they've been trying before even I showed
my face here.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Oh yeah, you believe that might be true, and.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
So that it was to that extent that we have
been just working feverishly and here we are are we feel.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
I'm so excited the like the out there.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
We know she's there, we know we'll find her again,
you know, obsession, which in the book is fictional but
for us is very real, very and also to be
so close to the end and to finally have this moment,
I do feel like we've won the power ball. I
would like for us all to also get a billion dollars,
but you know, one thing at a time.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Selfishly, I agree the reason I joined this podcast because
I don't cross paths with you in real life. I
just thought, what if I do this is the long game,
maybe Lisa will be a guest and I'll finally get
to tell her how great she is. Only reason, yeah,
that is so nice.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Did you guys ever have scenes together, Rob.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Not a one, not one, not a single one. See
the end when it was like everybody, yeah, but like
you never interact.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
And I didn't watch the show, so I am rewatching
it basically for that, and I forgot ninety percent of
what happened on the stuff I was involved in. So
I have had such just a unique experience of watching
you and feeling like like I came in just going
like I know Lisa, like we've said hello a bunch
of times, but then I have never seen your work,
(03:21):
and I was like, she's so freaking good. You're just
awesome in this show. And I'm gonna say criminally underused.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Wow, I need more of this than that life.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Oh, anytime, come hang out with this anytime, because I
wish you could. We should find a way to somehow
like gather all the things we've said about you and
just get them into one audio file that you can
just play anytime you're feeling blue, because we talked about
you consistently on this show, but it's you're so talented,
and there are so many times when we are going,
(03:55):
oh my gosh, I can't believe that was on the page,
Like we're listening to the log going that's what was
on the page, and Lisa somehow made it feel real
and grounded and warm, and we feel drawn into her
and I don't. She's magical, Like how does she do this?
You're just so dang good.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
Yes, I mean thanks, I had some doozies. I had
some real buddy, if I can remember.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
You had some doozies.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Yeah, I know, I did.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Your whole Uh. Milly's drug storyline was just.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
The eye roll.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Real quick. It went from like I'm the mo I'll
take these diet hills, I'm addicted to cocaine in like
an episode, and it was I was like, I think
Mike Daniels actually reached out to me and was like, hey,
you need to be prepared for this because this is happening,
and like he's going.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
To tell you, but I'm going to tell you he's
a good egg.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
They were going to just spring that up.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, you became an addict in one episode in forty
three minutes, and I grew two human beings in forty
three minutes in one episode. They sometimes they took the
things that would have been so yummy for us to
like explore, and we're just like.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Speed it up, girls, get to the point.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Oh yeah, we were always too like the if the
episode was like going real slow. I feel like we
were always the ones who like had to rush through
the scenes because yeah, there was no time.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
No time.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
With twenty two, we have been a few storylines on
the show that I have vocally expressed my displeasure and
I would say, I would say it's actually a tie
for first place, but you happen to be involved in
both of them. The first was Millie's tragic after school
special that was a drug storyline, which was just I
(05:52):
mean listen, if you go back and listening to those episodes,
it's fifty percent me just eviscerating how stupid it is,
and fifty percent praising you for somehow making it palatable.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
The other storyline being mouth gaining weight in season.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Nine, Oh my god, and.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Just being like, why are we wasting two terrific actors
on an absolute nothing plot?
Speaker 6 (06:19):
Yeah, season nine was a doozy. It was like, you
know what's funny is I remember the like before we
started filming season nine, on whatever platform that was like
popular at the time, Facebook or Twitter or whatever it was,
Lee posted a picture of him in like plaster of
Paris like on his face, like he was getting a
(06:42):
mold of his face. And I was like, oh my god,
he books something over.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
This is amazing.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
And I like texted him congratulations and he was like
I have to show you and I was like, oh,
what is this and he was like, they have me
in a fat suit this season and I was.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Like work, like.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
How And it was so out of left field. It
was just so bizarre, and I think, like, you know,
we took it on the chin, but part of us
were like this is so dumb, Like this is so dumb.
Sorry guys, that this is dumb. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah. I wish that they had spent more of the time,
like I was joking in the twenty two episodes, to
actually like stretch out storylines to make me feel realistic.
But I don't even know how if they had done that,
how the fat fat suit thing would have worked. It's
just is it's just so so stupid.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
It was like of all, like everybody, I don't remember
a lot about season nine because I was like at
that point when I heard like the fat suit story,
I was like I'm out, Like bye, guys, this is
like I'm gone. But like for the last season, of
a show that is so loved by so many people
(08:07):
to just like mail in a storyline. I mean, yeah,
we're like kind of supporting characters. That's fine, but like,
don't mail in our last like big storyline of like ever,
you know, especially with.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
What you guys had gone through and this really great
rhythm we had just begun seeing with Mouth and Milli
in the morning, Like you guys doing a morning show
was so fun. They could have made that fun. You
could have had you know, he has a little bit
of it. And then Nathan getting kidnapped storyline, but like
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you guys could have been very like the good guy
Bonnie and Clyde, like checking in with all the sources
around town. You could have done such cute, which also
is so good for you and Lee because you're both
such brilliant physical comedians like my god Lisa. To Joy's point,
just the sound bites of us talk about like your
physical comedy and your choices and your shoulders and your hands,
(09:03):
like I wish we could just we'll.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Make it happen.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
We'll get you all of our audio, like you're just
so fantastic And as a fan, as a viewer fan
of yours and yours and Lee's together, not just even
as your coworker and friend, but like as a person
who likes watching you on the screen.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
You could have done a million things with them in
the craziness of season nine that didn't require prosthetics or
like a womp womp, you know.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Yeah, it felt real. It's like cheesy isn't even the word.
It's like, I don't know, I can't even find a
word that's like bad.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Enough, lazy, lazy, lazy, just like it's not.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
I don't know, it just wasn't.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I'm wondering because I was in a soap opera for
two years a few years before One Tree Hill, and
we did some crazy stuff like I was a clone
of someone and then and then they brought me back.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You were a pod person of yourself.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah yeah, and then they brought they brought me back
as a completely different character like a year and a
half later, and then I like had to get married
against my will to somebody in the mafia, and like
there was I.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Mean, it was grat Can this be the next show
we recap? By the way, yeah, joy soap opera?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, but it taught me so much about making something
work because it has to be realistic. And I'm trying
to remember how much TV work you had done before
One Tree Hill, So I know we have some questions
for you about this, but I also wanted to kind
of tie that in with this idea that I was.
I was thinking about this, Lisa when we were watching
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the episode where you were yelling at Mouth on the
morning show about him being overweight, and it was so
out of character for Millie and it was so strange.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
But if you.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Figured out this, like there was this little sweet pocket
as an actor where you could get away with it,
and it felt like if you didn't dissect it too much,
you buy it. You buy the moment it's okay, and
everything works. That takes real skill and instinct. And I
wondered how much of what you had done before One
Tree Hill, or how much of just like having been
(11:22):
on the show and learning between your crazies all your
other crazy storylines, how much of that prepared you for
being able to like really have this amazing skill.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Okay, I had done zero television before One Tree Hill. None.
I had only done theater, only theater only. This is
my first job on like not first job ever professionally,
but my first job in front of a camera. So
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but I will say that I was trained in college
in my and in Stanislaovsky. So Meisner is all about
listening to what is being said to you and responding
honestly like however you're feeling. It's very intuitive. But then
Stanislavsky is like all subtext and like make sure what
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you're saying has meaning behind it. So I feel like
I really use the combination of both of those to
like help me, help me through really difficult moments because
if you have if you're listening to what the person
is saying to you and you're responding honestly, like I
don't think that what you're saying could ever really sound
(12:42):
like outlandish because it's an honest reaction. And then if
you have that the subtext, the underlying subtext of like
what you're what you're really saying, because like everything you
say has subtexts in real life kind of helps create
that like reality.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
That's great, it's so great.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Rob coined a term for us. Obviously, we were all
talking at the time about how our show had jumped
the shark so many times, but Rob coined the term
that we really learned how to ride the shark on
our show, Like, my god, you ride that shark so
beautifully in the crazy storylines. But also I don't just
want to focus on what was so ridiculous. There's so
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much goodness. And from the time that we meet Millie
in season five, you know when we started also shooting
Wilmington for New York, like creating the like New York City,
like say glass window buildings, like so silly and sweet,
but like to watch the arc of your character or grow,
to watch her find confidence, to watch the hilarity like
(14:05):
the bachelorette party episode, like all of these things that
were just so delicious, Like you and Sharon Lawrence did
things as hungover girls when we woke up in that
suite that were so perfect. Like there's great stuff too,
But to your point about training, like I want to
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get into what you loved about it, But when you
were coming to do this show, like what was happening
in your life at the time. I mean, we know,
but like for people at home who have these questions,
somebody literally goes, how did she go from a Disney
princess to starring on One Tree Hill?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Was she a fan of the show before joining, Like,
people have so many questions.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
About what it was like when you arrived. So let's
go back to like the fen part.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, that is fun.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
So I was working at Disney. I was doing Finding
Nimo of the musical. I was in the original cast.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
What did you play?
Speaker 6 (14:58):
I played Nemo, So we had like puppets. We had puppets.
I played Nemo. I played Squirt. I got to like
Squirt was really cool back then. It's not the same anymore.
It has been changed since COVID. But you would fly
in on like this puppet that had like bungee cords
on the side. You'd fly in and you'd be like
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bouncing and I'd be doing flips backwards with.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
A puppet, like an Avenue Q puppet kind of.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
It was like Squirt was a puppet that you would
sit in and your legs would be the fins, so
like it looked like the fins were moving, but they
were my leg I'm like miving legs like you can
see it. So those legs would be the fins. And
then his head was where we had these like bike
(15:48):
break puppets, and one side was blinking and one side
was their mouth. So it was nuts.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Great.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Yeah, it was great. And then the Nemo puppet was
like you just hold it and it had like the
bike brakes on like a stick and then you'd control
their eyes in their mouth. Oh but anyway, so I
was doing that and I got in a local agent
and I like sent off this audition for One Tree
Hill and I was like, oh, that's cool, Like I'll
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just send it off and we'll put it on tape
real quick. And then I got a call leaving rehearsal
with my friend and my agent like left it on
my voicemail, like you booked One Tree Hill.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
As a voice on your voicemail. Voicemail, not even call
me I have news?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
What? No a voicemail? And I was like, well, you'll
have to listen to this, like can you listen to this?
And she was like you booked you like you booked it.
And I was like this is crazy because never I
had never done film and TV. I didn't even have
a callback, which is crazy crazy, And.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
You just put yourself on tape or did you go
in the room.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
I just put myself on tape. It was from a tape,
and like, I think the reason it was like that
was because it was only a one episode situation at
the time, and I think like all, like everybody kind
of had an idea that maybe we'll be bringing this
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character back. But I think it was like day one
was like my test, you know, oh.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
No pressure, having never been a TV set before.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
And I remember Craig was directing, and I had like
this tiny little scene and I forget what it was.
It was like Brooke was like going out to her
like taxi or something, and like then the camera was
just left on me, and like he didn't cut for
a while because he wanted to see what I would do.
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But you know, I kept going and like I did it.
I like breathed and I don't know, I did something
weird and like that was that, and he was like.
I remember at the end, Greg being like, well, we're
going to see you again, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
This is okay.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I love hearing that.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
That's so cool. Oh my gosh. I remember to Rob's point,
like there's so much we've forgotten even though we all
did this, like you did seventy episodes of our show,
And isn't it crazy that someone will ask you about
something You'll be like what, Oh.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Yeah, there's so many things. I'm like, I don't remember that.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yeah, yeah, I remember having the aha moment when we
watched Millie join our universe because you're the reveal with Victoria.
Oh yeah, like you say you know and and you know,
there's something about like Victoria's in your office or whatever,
and you think she's like an executive at the company,
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and then it reveals that she's Brooks mom.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, and you're you're the mister.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
And it was so well done because you obviously aren't
saying in the scene like I'm so scared of her,
but you you and your big beautiful eyes just being
so terrified. And then we meet Victoria Davis and everyone's like,
oh my god. And the dynamic between you two in
the office like the just the way that built in
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season five.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Milli was like the perfect little like cream in the
middle of the Oreo sandwich and these twowich.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, but it's like Milly and Victoria are actually such
a unit for this big reveal for Brooks character, and like,
I don't know, you just oh my god, you crushed.
Was it nerve wracking for you to work with Daphne
at first? Like were you actually intimidated by her?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
She walked in on day on me being on set
day one, and I was like, what's her name and
what's her character's name in Spaceball?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Princess Vespa Prince.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
I was like, data is Princess Vespa? Like I on
Spaceball's like second grade me watching all the F bombs
and like all this stuff while my parents are in
the other room, like having a drink or whatever, like
I grew up on Spaceball. So she walked in and
I was like, yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I think we all felt a little bit of that
intuation with da when we first met her.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yeah, well, and we had it with Moira starting in
season one. We would follow her around being like topic, topic,
don't say topic, don't say topic. And then Darny showed
up and it was like what we were like winning
the mom lottery on our show.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Working with Daphne was like, as my oldest daughter would say,
like Daphne is her, Daphne is her, Like she is
like so great, she's so professional, Like working with her
was unbelievable. I loved it.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And Sharon, had you watched the show before joining, did
you know what you were walking into?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Not really? Way back in the day when it was
a pilot. I remember getting like a side for it,
and or somebody I knew got a side for it
to audition for it, and like I knew of the
show and I knew it was popular, but I didn't
watch it. But then at the time, all the episodes
(21:38):
were on soap Net, so I would record them and
like catch up, Like as I was filming, like season five,
I was like catching up at the same time.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Good old soap Net.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Oh my god, soap Net that was.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Real TV that aired at a certain time with commercials.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Oh my god, I need all my children, like circa
nineteen eighty five till I don't know, two thousand and two.
I just feel like I need that back in my life.
I literally would put it on every day.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah. I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
It's like your comfort, yeah, because it's the things that
we grow up watching when we're kids.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Yeah, it's like your guilty pleasure.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
So you we obviously've already covered the Milli low lights
as they were, But what are some of your Millie highlights? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Oh, like all the fun stuff I was trying. I
think Brook's wedding was super fun. That was so fun
for me to fill like just being like a little
tipsy and like coming in on the conversations that people
are having that are serious and like, yeah, that was
so fun. I mean, before I before really became a
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drug addict, the modeling storyline was pretty fun. Working with
Jana when she first came on the show was really fun.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah that was really so you too were great. You
were such good chemistry.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
You were the buddy comedy I didn't know I needed.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yes, Yeah, for sure, I don't know, I really. I mean,
as like crazy as the storylines were, at the end
of the day, I felt really proud of how I
handled it, like handled all the outlandish things that were
thrown at me, and like even though things were like
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you know, got real crazy, I don't like I don't
think I would. I mean I would probably would change
some stuff, but I just feel proud of like the
the the how it turned out, how I you know,
got through to the finish line.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I guess, yeah, yeah, there were so many things and
you should feel proud.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
We've there have been moments where we've watched someone's performance,
like I Janet jumps to mine and in your tough storylines,
it was the same with you, and like, oh, they're
teflon like, they're so good that even though I'm watching
this going like this story is the worst, I'm going like,
I'm watching a really good actor make very questionable material palatable.
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So you should be proud because in the hands of
a lesser actor, I think it would have just been
like an episode breaker.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, than to your point about like when our working
life shifts, as Brooke and Millie and we do are
you're going to go out, You're going to close the show,
we have the big surprise moment. I know for me,
zero is not a size is one of those things
that stands out for the audience and for the fans
as like a thing that they still want to talk about.
(24:47):
How do you do you experience that with people? How
do you feel about the storyline, like now all these
years later, do you feel like it stands up?
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Of course, I mean I think that's great, and I
think that you know, as where you know, as society
is evolving and becoming more accepting and of different body types,
I think it's a really important lesson to teach. And
having a daughter like I make sure that there is
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nothing mentioned in our.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
House about way about same books, about anything like that,
And you know what's so funny is that I was
like the other day, I was.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Like, oh, I gotta die my hair. My graves are
coming out, and she was like, Mommy, Like, you are
beautiful no matter what.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's this new generation.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Yeah it is. And like a message of zero was
not a size is timeless. It's just just.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
As and it was time Lee. I think because we
all did grow up with all the tabloids in the
I mean so much, especially when you're as a child
actor like I was. They were all just like in
the hair and makeup, all of the every magazine, every tabloid,
it was just around. And you know, back in that
day and age, it was all body issue stuff on
the cover of those magazines and rags and so to
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I feel like we were really on the cusp of
that transition and leading the way in that transition to hey,
we need to stop focusing on this stuff. And I'm
really proud of us just as a show that we
got to do that. And so you guys, that was
your storyline, you guys, So I'm sure you're even more
proud of it. But it's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
And we were such a perfect show to deliver that
message given who our demographic was. Yeah, yeah it was.
It really was. For some of the egregious missteps that
our show has had, like we've also had some incredible moments.
And I would say zero is not a size as
like it's in the top two or three, if not
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the top one. But when fans come up to you
and they want to talk about something, is there like
a go to scene or moment or storyline that they
bring up most good question?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I mean it is zero is not a size. It's like,
that's it. And what I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
On the rare.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Occasion that a fan comes up to me, it's usually
like can I take a picture? I loved you? You did
such a good job on the show. And then it's
kind of like done, but in a more when I
get more in depth, it's like zero is not a size,
and Mouth and Milly are so cute they are.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
When you when you moved down to Wilmington, did you
move you moved to Wilmington right, like because you became
a series regular, were you always yeah, okay, I never
know how people were officially build and whatever, But so
when you moved there, did you just get your own apartment?
Did you do what we did. Were you kind of
like roomed with other new people on the show.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
I got my own apartment, Like it was furnished, it
was downtown, like kind of off the beaten track. I
got my own apartment because I was like, I mean
I'm here now, so like, yeah, I better get a place.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Did you and Lee spend a lot of time together
offset just to kind of build that chemistry or was
it already it was just there when you started.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
We already had been like in season five when all
those new people came in every like, I know, I
was hanging out with them, and Lee was hanging out,
Sophia was hanging out. Jane was like it was.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Like so much fun.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
And out and I had a lot of fun, and
so that chemistry like was already kind of there because
we were friendly and then you know, it just kind
of developed over the years.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
That's great, wait to see it. You can see it
on camera for sure.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, we were also in that like it was such
a special moment in time because social media wasn't really
a thing. You could still like go out with people
and not feel like you were being tracked all the time.
You know, like we were going to the brasserie for
mac and cheese, and we were going to see shows
at the soap Box and like, it was such a
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special moment in Wilmington, and I'm so happy we get
to talk about all of this today because I was
just with Lee. There was a convention in Paris and
Rob came and sadly Joy couldn't join, but like a
lot of us were there and Lee and I were
talking about it, and we were like going through our
phones as you do at our age, like going through
(29:25):
pictures of your families, and we were like, man, we're
so happy and lucky. But like, remember when we all
got to live together and go to dinner every weekend
and we had no responsibilities and we were so silly,
and like I was thinking about you and I going
to pilates and learning how to make basil syrup from
Natalie and like, oh, it was just such a special time.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I feel like I remember the basil syrup thing. I
wasn't there, but did you bring someone to work? Like
that definitely just rang a bell in my brain.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Oh, we were obsessed basil syrup, backberry syrup, Like it
was a whole thing, and it just it's like it's
like the yummiest memory to me. It feels like a
It feels like a hot chocolate chip cookie, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Emotionally, so many good things that we all got to
take from One Tree Hill, but you took something from
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One Tree Hill that I think is pretty unique and
probably beats what the rest of us took, which is
a hubby. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
I nail I snagged me a hobby at One Tree Hill.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yes, you did. You and MICHAELA. McManus, I know we
nailed life.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Can you tell? I don't know that story? So are
you sure?
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Oh my gosh, okay, I'm so excited.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
So Brendan kersh So he was the sports coordinator, as
you guys know. And right when I remember what Seaton,
I guess it was season six. When season six started,
that was okay. I was moving to Wilmington. I was
like there before everybody because I was just coming up
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from Florida and I came in early because I wanted
to find an apartment, and I was like, is anybody here?
Like putting it out in the universe, and Brendan was
the only person who was in town, and I was like,
should go to dinner? Like totally innocent I was like, yeah,
(31:31):
just as friends, let's go to dinner. Now, Brendan thinks
I asked him out.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
We were just going out as friends. But you know,
things progressed from there and like we had chemistry and
you know we I was like, oh, I really like him,
and you know, once the Slamball stuff started filming, that's
when we really started dating and like moved real fast
(32:01):
from there, like we moved in and we got engaged
like a year later, and that was it. It was like,
I don't know, I just was great.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Talk about like location ship that actually like lasted and
has kept going.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, what's the secret?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
What's the secret?
Speaker 6 (32:21):
My best friend? You know, like he always was my
best friend. He always makes me laugh and you know,
and vice versa for him, Like I'm always making him
laugh and like we're we're just each other's person.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
So before you clearly asked him out on a date
before season six, how did you, guys, sweet I'm assuming
then you you all met season five and that's how
you had his numbers.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Yeah, he was like one because he was Him and
James were really close, so he was he was always
going kind of going out with us and hanging out
with us, so I knew him like kind of as
an acquaintance before season six started.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Brendan was like as in the mix as like Rob
for example, Jane Beck, like he was in a posse
of the friends who on camera people and and off
camera people who were all around the same age, who
were just gallivanting around town together on the weekends. And yeah,
you two, I remember as your friend having a moment
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where I like heard your laugh and you were laughing
so hard, and then I heard another laugh. I knew
that was so hard, and I will never forget like
turning like this and seeing the two of you, like
I saw the fifty to fifty and your head went
forward and then your head went back, and he was
(33:50):
doubled over laughing towards you, and then his head went back,
and I was like, it was like.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Peo peo pew.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
It felt like the moment in the rom com where
like stars twinkle a little bit, oh God, just like
the sweetest thing the laughter for you too is even
as friends who watched it happen like that was cool.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
It was so it was great.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I mean, on the kids, do you guys have now?
Speaker 6 (34:15):
We well three Gracie is from his previous a previous marriage,
and then we have two together.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Oh my gosh, Lisa, what ages eleven and nine?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
My go.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yes, I mean if anything will will like hut. I
always say kids are like a tangible measure of time.
It's like you can see it.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's crazy and how fast it goes.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, So what is your life like now? Can you tell?
Just tell us a little bit? I mean, we haven't
talked in so long. I know you and I messaged
on Instagram a little bit ago, and Kendra Garrett is
obviously like I both love her and a mutual friend
from Wilmington, and she was like, oh my gosh, I
love Lisa. We've chatted about her, but you and I
haven't actually connected and I don't. I don't know if
(35:08):
you've stayed in touch with a lot of us. So
can you just, yeah, tell us what your life's like now.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
I mean, I'm mostly a mom like I had once
I had our first boy. I was like, that's it,
Like that's what I'm doing because when I was growing up,
my parents had to travel a lot. And I was like,
I'm not like, I'm not doing that. I don't want
to leave my kids. So you're like, my family is
(35:32):
like my top priority right now. So it's like, you know,
soccer practices and East Sports and oh yeah, it's classes
and voice lessons and Minecraft and dog Man and Taylor
Swiss new album and like you know, like all the
things like that are in your world now that weren't before.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah, it's so cool.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Did you sports?
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Yes, Esports. It's like, so my son does Smash Smash Bros. Yeah,
so he does. He has an esports like practice and
then game. So he has practice on Wednesdays and then
a game on Friday where he like they do a tournament.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Oh wow, so fun.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Oh yeah. Interer nerd is so happy.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Oh my god would be like.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
I say inter nerd like I'm not an outer nerd
as well. Yeah I love that all I.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Love a nerd.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
So it feels correct.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
So are you okay? Is that part of why you
decided to step away from acting because you were like,
I'm in this with my kids right now, and I
want to do this part of it.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
I also have like really bad anxiety. So I found
that when I was like always putting myself out there
for auditions and like and that's like your whole job
really as an actor is audition, audition, audition.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Truly it's the worst.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
But I would get into the rooms after one tree
Hill and I would be like, like I would already
be defeated, and I would already like it just wasn't
sustainable for my mental health to continue down that path.
And like, really, for me, the juice wasn't worth the
(37:27):
squeeze anymore. It just wasn't. Like I don't have that
desperate desire anymore to storytell or be on stage or
be in front of a camera. I just don't I
don't know if that like went away after I had
kids or like, I don't know. I kind of like
(37:48):
did everything I wanted to do when I set out
to be an actor, Like I got to be Bell,
I got to be on TV, and like, I don't know,
I got to do so many things, and like, I
don't find I just don't have that desire anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
You also expend so much at creative energy as a parent,
yet it truly fulfills so much. I mean I know
it did for me, Yeah for sure, for sure. I
mean I would go to sleep and be like, oh
what a wow, wild exhausting, daily ahead. But I mean
I read her like seven books in twelve different accents,
and we like, you know, went to the park and
(38:28):
played make believe and we improve with the other kids
at the park. And then I've made dinner with her
and we turned it into a cooking show.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
And then I mean, oh, you're a fun parent, joys fun. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Yeah, I'm gonna be done storytelling. And then your kid
turns to and you're like, all I do is storytelling.
I do fourteen hours of improv a day.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Yeah, And not to mention, like, I'm in Florida, so
it's not like I'm living in a place where, you know,
acting jobs are easily accessible. I would have to travel
to do that, or if I was, you know, do
it working for a theater or whatever. It's like that
would take up the majority of my time. And I
(39:11):
don't want anybody else but me determining what I do
with my time.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah makes sense.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Yeah, to get your agency back is really it can
like alter your chemistry a bit because we just didn't
have it for so long that you get used to
not having it, and then you get a taste of it.
Like COVID for me was my first break and I.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Was like, I get to decide what I'm going to
do with my day.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
I can decide what time I'm going to eat lunch.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Like it sounds so silly, but it really it teaches you,
I think something else about yourself. And then you have
kids and their schedules have to trump everything, and it's like,
what a what a gorgeous thing to give all of
that to yourself.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
Yeah, it's I mean, it feels so right. And like
people ask me, My family asked me sometimes, do you
miss it? And I'm like, no, Like I miss the
relationships more than anything. I don't miss like I don't
miss the grind.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
You know, is there anything? Is there any role, any
any show, any anything that would make you kind of
come out of hiding and be like, Okay, if somebody
just picked the phone and called and said, Lisa, we
saw your work on One Tree Hill. You're amazing and
we need you.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
That is hard. That's a really hard question. I don't know.
I don't know if there is one, to be honest,
because I'm such a perfectionist too, and I've been out
of the game so long that I don't know if
I could give it like what it would need me.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
You know, yeah, because you know what goes on behind
the scenes. It's not just like oh, you get to
come do this thing. It's like I know what that
I know what the grind is.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
Right, Like thinking about going back, like after COVID NEMO,
what's having auditions again? And I was like, oh, let
me think about that. And I was like rehearsing eight
hours a day for three months, six days a week,
and then like doing a show five days a week,
three times a day. I was like, no, I didn't
(41:22):
think so that's easy. Though, Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Didn't you find that? That's one of the natural byproducts
of becoming a parent is that suddenly your free time
because becomes such a scarce resource that it really helps
very quickly you realize what is important to you when
you only have ninety minutes free a day. If that right,
Like you suddenly realize like, of all the people, there's
(41:48):
only two people who you care to call back.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
You know.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
It's like or what activities are going to do? So
it's like when when that way called me back, Rob,
I told you I'm going to call me back to it,
but no, don't you find it? So it's like like
you become a parent suddenly are like, I don't, I
don't know if that's how I want to use that
little island of three time.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
I have totally. That's absolutely right. It's like putting my
energy out in the universe for stuff that, like I
don't know is coming back to me. I want to
put my energy into something that I know will benefit
my kids, me or my husband.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
You know, Yes, I love it. I love it. There's
such a there's such an enchantment. I think people think
of Hollywood and what we do with this glamour still
and I love the dismantling of that and recognizing that
(42:47):
storytelling is hard and takes a lot of work, and
it's not it's not a life for everyone, and there's
so much fulfillment in everybody approaches life differently and needs
something different. And there's lots of things I'm good at
that I don't have the energy to really pursue as
a as a career. Yeah, because exactly what you're saying, like,
(43:12):
I need the things that I prioritize to be things
that are I'm investing in something that's giving back in
a way that's really meaningful. Yeah, So I really I
think it's just so beautiful, the strength and willingness to
prioritize your family and yourself rather than like what people
(43:34):
perceive is this perfect Hollywood life, Like, oh my gosh,
you're on TV. You must have it made, you know.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
You said it, auditioning is the job.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
Auditioning is the worst, unless you're like I love auditions.
It's like it's hard, it's going to be hard.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
And I got news for you. It's there are no
rooms or sessions that. There are very few rooms anymore
post COVID. I mean, I don't know if you've got
to taste this, but it is all self tapes, and
like feedback, you only hear feedback if like you're in
the running, or you booked it, or you did so
bad they never want to see you.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Oh god.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
So it's just you spending hours doing a tape, sending
it off into the void, into the void, and with nothing. So,
like you said, like you want to be sure the
energy you're putting out is being reciprocated that at least
you could get feedback in a room, you know, a chuckle, yes,
some sort of nice thing that's gone. But let me
ask this as as the keeper of MILLI, Yeah, what
(44:30):
what would you if if? What is Milly doing today?
What is Millie's current life like?
Speaker 6 (44:37):
Okay, well, she and Mouth are obviously married with kids.
I don't know how many. I'm sure maybe they've taken
over the TV station or something like that. There's still
like a duo and working professionally together and in tree Hill,
like taking the TV industry there by storm.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
So that love it.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yes, Mouth and Milli in the Morning forever and hour.
Speaker 6 (45:06):
Please, I forgot about Mouth and Million in the Morning.
That was super fun.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
So cute. And as we get to the end of
the season, Milly does this like gorgeously generous thing and
says to Mouth, I love working with you, but I
don't think you're happy. I think you miss sports and
getting In our pen ultimate episode, Mills and Skills, it's
(45:30):
so good highlight reel of the show for me, the.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Way he freezes up and just pretends like everything.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
Winker incredible, incredible, you really are you just you changed
the tree Hill universe for the better.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
Lisa, you're big time barnun And as someone who like
I said, I had no idea what you were up
to while we were there in Wilmington, doing it now
going back and watch, you did such a wonderful job
and you bring such just like grace and levity to
the show and when it gets really outlandish, you ground it.
(46:11):
But if One Tree Hill was your mic drop moment,
which it seems as though for the time being, it
is like what a way to go out because you
just did a phenomenal job.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Thank you were a glue that we all needed in
all the scenes that you were in. You had an
ability to pay attention to what was happening, what everybody
else was doing in the scene, and you knew exactly
what was needed and how to fill it. And that's
that's not always the case. I feel like there's a
lot of times when you see people kind of jockeying
(46:43):
to do the same thing or to they're not playing
off of each other. And you just truly every environment
you walked into, it was like you just became this
adhesive and just brought everything all together. And I'm sure
that's just a you quality that happens in your regular
life too, everywhere you go. And we just wish you
(47:05):
all the best and I don't want to let you go.
It's so sad, but I'm really really glad. We got you,
We got our we got our movie, Dick, we got her.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Call back.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Thank you so much for for being.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
Here, Thanks for having me. It was so fun and
I was so good to see you guys. I'm so
glad I got to do this and we finally made
it work. We did Yeah worth the wait, yay bye guy.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
My, before we go, Before we go, I have a
little piece of cool news.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
I love cool.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
News, no big d but I have got it on
good authority that we have a couple of special guests
that are going to be joining us at our live
show in the Wilmington.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
That's right in the Wilmington, Wilmington.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
Just because we love symmetry, we thought three hosts, let's
do three guests. Guess who we got Tell the people,
Rob mister Sexpylon himself, Austin Nichols. We got him, the
Teflon queen who can just deliver any material and still
make it likable and charming. Jenna Kramer, Hey hey, and
(48:22):
the one the lovable Dufislethario bad boy who talks in
the third person. Chris Keller aka Sweetsweet Tyler Hilton Woo.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
I can't wait, I can't wait. To sit down with
the three of them.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Oh, it's great, It's gonna be great. I'm pumped. Man.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Where can people get tickets?
Speaker 2 (48:46):
The in person wants sold out, but we can watch
it on the live stream, Is that right?
Speaker 5 (48:50):
Yeah? Great question. Joy, I'm so glad you asked. Anyone
can get tickets for the stream at veeps dot com
forward slash Drama Queens. That's veeps v e e ps
dot com slash Drama Queens.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
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