June 27, 2022 • 56 mins
There was an actual brawl in this episode! As the Queens discuss, they reminisce about some of their own scrappy moments.
Either you love him or you hate him...now, does that make Dan the perfect Mayoral Candidate?!
The Queens are fascinated as they watch it all back now considering they are closer in age to the parents! And, in an unexpected twist certain storylines are more believable NOW!
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Drama Queens. Welcome, Welcome Back at Season three, episode five,
A Multitude of Casualties Air date November two, two thousand five.
Tom Wright was back directing him so much love him.
I thought there was a good writing in this episode.
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To Arlie Fleming Jr. Wrote, wrote this one um. The
synopsis here is basketball season starts at tree Hill High
with a disastrous midnight pep rally, which neither of us
ever did I know a pep rally. I can move
around a pep rally blindfolded. This was I know you do.
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Everyone's throwing punches. It goes crazy. Brooke is threatened by
a new girl Rachel and the cheer squad our beloved
Danil Harris accles and uh Nathan puts Hayley to the test.
He just openly tells her I'm testing you uh, and
forces her to work with Chris Keller, which is really
just our excuse to get Tyler back on the show. Him. Oh,
(01:23):
he's so good. And then Whitey, who is super kind
of nice and cheery this whole episode, all of a sudden,
has a big blowout when he has to make a
decision about forcing Nathan and Lucas to work together again.
And then Dan gets a surprising opponent running against him
for mayor. Lots happening, but we don't talk about Peyton
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in this in the synopsis. I don't know why, because
this was my favorite part of the whole episode, was
the Peyton storyline. Um, before we get into any of it,
should we tell people about what we've been cooking up? Yeah,
let's do you know what. I think the idea came
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to us kind of during the Dare Night episode because
we love a scavenger hunt, like we literally like I
did that for my birthday. It was so much fun.
I had all my friends cut we we all met
in one place. Everybody got a little booklet with a
glue stick and a Polaroid camera and then they got
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a list and they had to go. We all had
to go out on the town. We had like an
hour and a half and you had to go find
all these things in the street and random things, you know,
roll the toilet paper from a restaurant, bottle caps from
my bar, a chalk outline on the street, you know,
and you had to take a polar ride of your
team with the thing and then paste it into the book,
and whoever made it first, you know, got the prize.
I remember like kissing a dude because he had a
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scavenger Hunt written it out on his T shirt. It
was his like bachelor party, and it was like, you
have to kiss a strange blond woman. And I was like,
I'm a strange blond woman. It's I'll do it. Yeah,
you know, it's just it's an excuse to goof around
and have some fun. And so we wanted to create
a cyber scavenger hunt for our fans because we really
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have been so lucky that so many of you spend
your week with us, um and we've got some It's
it's this is a big payoff to This is not
just like, oh it's cute, like y'all are going to
freak out. It's not just a T shirt. Joy and
tell them what they're gonna win. Here's what you're gonna win.
We're gonna explain the rules of the game in a minute.
But what you're gonna win, let's get to that with this. Okay,
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you get a zoom with the Drama Queens. That's I
think that's gonna be really fun. Then, Um, sorry, my
dog is drinking out of the water bowl right now.
It's the loudest thing in the world. Are you good?
Heidi like banging her metal collar against the thing. Um,
you're gonna win a zoom with the Drama Queens, So
all three of us are gonna sit and have a
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chat with you. You're gonna win a trip, a trip
to North Carolina to Wilmington's North Carolina, which includes Hillary
Tom What's what's in it? Baby? It is domestic round
trip airfare. H Let's see what else do we got
here for the what's for a winner and one guest
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for the winner and one guest? Hold on, I'm zooming
this up. We got a whole list, folks. All right,
So you're gonna get domestic round trip airfare for the
winner and a guest. You were going to get two
nights in a hotel and a five dollar visa gift card. Um,
it's just some spend in cash for that river walk,
so you can pretend you're Nathan and Haley sitting there
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by the Fair River. Maybe we'll try and find a
little bracelet to throw in there for you do. It's
so exciting. We've been working on this for a while
because we wanted to make it really special for you guys.
We wanted you to feel everything that we felt when
we were back there in Wilmington's and just still experienced
and experienced the town the way that it is, um
with with all of the history that we walked through
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all those years ago, and um, we want you to
be a part of that. So here's how we've structured
this so that you can win this trip and this zoom.
You're going to follow the instructions on Drama Queens O
t H on Instagram. So it's at Drama Queens O
t H, which hopefully you're already following. If you're not,
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right now, that's right now is your time. We're gonna
post ten questions that only true drama queens would know.
Explain a little bit about that. Yeah, So here's the deal.
Everybody knows all the one Tree Hill trivia on the Internet.
It's out there. There's like Wikipedia pages about who kissed
who and this and that. We wanted to really reward
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our listeners and so these ten questions are things that
you would only know if you have listened to our episodes.
We have carefully crafted these, So that's the scavenger hunt. Um.
If you haven't caught up on all your episodes, now
would be a great time to do it, um, because yeah,
these are all the kind of behind the scenes questions
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that we've had a lot of fun digging into. And yeah,
the harder the better. Get hard. So what you're gonna
do is, once you know the answers to those questions,
you're gonna email drama Queens at i heeart Radio dot com.
Sup super easy Drama Queens at i heeart Radio dot com,
or you can d m s at Drama Queens o
th h and put your answers to the questions right
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on in there. And for anyone who answers all ten
questions correctly, you will automatically get placed in a drawing.
It's just a it's a standard raffle. We're gonna stick
your name in there and one person is going to
be chosen one winner at random, and you will get
a zoom with the Drama Queens and a trip to Wilmington,
North Carolina to see where it all began. Well well
(06:44):
probably also like tell them where to go in the zoom,
Like we should zoom before they go on the trip
so we can be like go here, go here, go here.
Oh yeah, we have to, we have to. Or while
they're they're oh, that's good too, that's fun too. Yeah,
we're gonna have lots of good advice for you guys.
It's to be so fun. I can't wait to see
who wins this because we do have some really loyal
fans that were on a first name basis with now
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and I feel like they're like, DIBs, DIBs, yep, I'm
coming forward, get on over there and check it out. Awesome,
can't wait. Awesome, Awesome, And thank you to my Heart
for helping us set that up. They've been really cool about,
you know, letting us connect with our fans in this way. Um.
So yeah, okay, this episode bananas joy Bananas. Yeah. I
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mean it wasn't as big as the last episode it
felt like it, but but I did like that they
went back in time. Have we done that yet on
this show? I think we, like the three days before
something didn't have every I mean we had another. We
went from having a huge party last episode to a
huge pep rally this episode. It's like there're lots of
extras continually trying to one up themselves. I remember our
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crew getting fatigue at this point, just being like, bro,
can we just have a couple like quiet episodes where
people just like talk and cry? What happened to people
making moody faces and just like crying? Can we do
more of that? Please? You know, we're going to teach
you a dance routine. Not'll be easy. Haley becomes a cheerleader. God,
(08:13):
I love it. I love it. Haley should have always
been a cheerleader. Yeah. I like that she kind of
finds her way into it begrudgingly. Um. I looked like
I was eleven years old in that cheer costumes, standing
up against the wall behind like that. You call it
a cheer costume. What's it called? It's a uniform? Joy? Oh? Sorry, yeah,
(08:34):
it's a sport. Okay. You're like, we went to cheer rehearsal.
What are the basketball auditions? That's happening. Yeah, um no,
I thought there kids the whole pushback that Haley had,
that scene that you and Sophia had in the apartment
where she is so pleased with herself that she came
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up with this genius plan and you're just like, yeah,
you guys, good pair. Yeah, it was fun. It was
really nice to see that chemistry happened. I like that
they leaned into that this season because you and I
got some real time in the first season and then
they had to break us up idiot together totally. Uh,
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but yeah we did, And I like, I like where
Brooks at right now, and I think it's really fun.
She was having a lot of fun with her character.
Sophia was having a lot of fun with her character
in this episode, so much pouting and petulant stomping around
and you know, a bed of her own making that
she's had to lie in. Well, her writing is so
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good in this what does she say that one time?
She goes, oh, great, we solved your Riddle's let's get
back to mine. Yeah, fantastic, We've solved your riddle. Um no,
the writing for book is really good. They zoned in
on her. Yeah, they figured out how good she is
at comedy and they're like, oh, well, let's let's right
to that because we need more of that on the
show for sure. Thank god. Yeah, well this midnight pep
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rally she is. You know, there's like two different authoritative
groups running this pep rally. Got Nathan on his like
power spree being I'm a captain. I'm captain captain, and
then Brooke is like I'm captain and they're kind of
running these parallel It was fun. Yeah, these like aggressive
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captain maneuvers, which is as someone who's been a captain,
that is not how you run your ship. Who his Oh,
how do you do it? How to talk to me
about being a cheer captain because you are a natural leader. Hillary, Well,
I wasn't cheer captain senior year. That was Ashley Dawston
and Nanika King and they were so good. But I
was cheer captain's sophomore year for jp UM. I got
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too dark as I got older, Like I I was
Peyton Sawyer. I had a megaphone with like a picture
of Charles Manson on it and like all these like
super angsty like quotes. I'm mad, but I'm also here
in these bloomers, so call it what it is. Um, yeah,
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you don't do that. There was a girl who was
a year older than me, who was a really awful
captain like that, and and nobody liked her. And as
this is a terrible story, we became grown ups and
she went and she interviewed for a job at one
of my friends offices, and she was just like, we
can't hire her. She's a terrible cheer captain. Oh my god,
(11:37):
he comes back to haunt you. Man. Don't be a dick.
That's just true. It's life. Um No, I've never heard
of this midnight pep rally things. Midnight mass, I know,
but midnight pep rally. You can get people to show
up at church at midnight, but not a pep rally.
That seems backwards somehow. Well, and it's only it's Christmas
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eve joy, people only a church on Christmas. Even that's
true for midnight mass. Yeah, if anybody out there did
have midnight pep rallies, tell us, because I went to
a huge football school and it was like, I don't know,
you didn't want kids out roaming the town at one
o'clock in the morning. That seems weird. That seems so weird,
but that's our kind of our m oh, isn't it
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that they're all out at trick, at these like lock
in parties and at these you know parties where there's alcohol,
and parents just seemed to be totally fine with their
kids going to this club that's run by a high
school girl where there's liquor and crazy bands. Because the
liquor or was it just like you know, soda pop.
Do we remember if that was actual liquor behind the
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bar or if they replaced Well I knew that, like
they had bartenders there, but then on these all ages nights,
maybe they would lock it up. No, I mean in
real life. Oh, I mean in real life, I had
a water bottle full of liquor, So I have no
idea what was going on behind the box. I didn't
have to go behind the bar, I know, I don't know.
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I feel like there were some of the bottles were
all sealed up, but some of them were open, and
I feel like at some point we got in there
and tried to discover which ones were real and which
ones weren't. Somebody had to have filled some up with
real stuff. You know. The crew had definitely had some
long days and they were like, somebody go find the
Jack Daniels. That's like the fourth one on the right,
the props department or can we call it the art
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department please? Um? Yeah? Did you have pepper rallies at
your high school? We did? Um? I think I went
to a few, although our our high school was we
did do basketball, but we were bigger and soccer. Yeah.
I went to Eastern Eastern Christian e C High in
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North Hamleton, New Jersey. What up New Jersey? And uh,
they were big. It was a big, big soccer town.
So we did a lot of those. And I did
go to a lot of the soccer games I was.
I didn't go to many of the basketball games EC Eagles.
I was a cheerleader for a semester, Yes, for which sport?
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I think he was basketball. I don't know why I didn't.
I just couldn't. I didn't care. I think that's what
it was. Had a hard time appreciate you so much.
Joy Like, hey, guys, you're jumping up and down. Is
it helping? Is it really helping? Are the boys gonna
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they're going to shoot more baskets because you're jumping open down.
I feel you don't I get it. Yeah, I guess
I thought my time would just be better spent somewhere else.
I was like, I'm in this skirt and we're and
I'm learning how to throw my arms in these weird positions,
and it's not I don't know, it wasn't for me.
I mean, obviously a lot of people really love it
and they're they're great for pep. They get the crowd excited.
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I'm never I've never been one of those people that's like,
good morning. I said good morning, just can't post it
on social media the other day how much you hate
the good morning? Well, Dan Scott is very much the
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guy in this episode who's like I said good morning
at this time. He is so in. This was a
brilliant move by the writers, by the way, what to
put Dan in the position of running for mayor. I see,
it's such a perfect spot for Paul. It's applicable. I mean,
I I know people that run for local office and
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they're not I guess when I was a kid, I
thought it was like, I don't know kind of untouchable
people that would run for these offices. And now that
I'm a grown up, I'm like, no, that's just that
dude from down the street. Like they're not different from us,
they're just you know, they've got time on their hands. Yeah,
it's just Karen that runs a campaign. So it's just kidding. Yeah,
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the whole Like you pointed this out, you're like, literally
every character in our show hates Dan, but somehow the
whole town loves him. Yeah. I don't know how that works.
It's strange. Also, as someone who has been to a
lot of pep rallies, like a lot, I've never seen
a parent from them, Like where's the principle? That's usually
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the person that's like on the microphone and maybe you
let a parent talk for two seconds. But I guess
Whitey was the one who is sort of leading the frame.
But it should have been a kid. I mean that
is that's right. It's like the kids kind of run
the pep rally. That's what's exciting about it. It's so
weird to see like this grown up who's literally at
the school every single day, like Dan lives at the
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school or in the Logistically, I cannot figure this out. Okay,
So yes, I get that. The whole thing about people
who are abusive is that often they're they're pillars in
the community. Everyone loves them, and it's just in their home,
their monsters that happens. I know that's real, um, And
I've experienced some of that in my life, so I
know firsthand that it's real. However, Dan is not just
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abusive to the like four or five people in his
little circle. I mean, you don't get to be that
kind of a meglomaniac unless you're screwing people over left
and right. He runs a dealership, you know, he's in
dirty deals with everybody all the time, screwing people. He
walked around looking for ways to screw people over. So
how does he not, in a small town like that,
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have a terrible reputation? Like how I don't understand anybody
who went to high school with him knows, like, oh yeah, Danny,
he's a dick. Like I know the kids I went
to high school with that were dicks and I would
never vote for them. May And he's still in the
town that he went to the high school where he
went to high school. Oh yeah, yeah, where are all
like the kids that he picked on in high school
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or that damn like the girls that he like, you know,
cheated on Karen with all that kind of I know
now that we're older and enjoying the adult storylines more,
that's the kind of stuff I wish we would have
seen that would have been really fun. Listen, the fact
that Dan had to campaign at all is weird. If
he's running unopposed, but he's still having to do this
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whole like, these are the billboards, this is my jersey
getting retired. Here are my pamphlets and my buttons? Like
what kind of door campaign? Just blowing money? If he's
on a post. This was not thought through as well
as it should have been. No one in our writer's
room ran for local office ever, know you know what
(18:38):
they did think through about this war of the roses
between him and Deb. I'm loving this story like I
wanted to go on forever and ever. I'm obsessed. So
this is the episode where Dan puts Deb's toothbrush in
the toilet and then she shows up with her whiskey
and her lingerie at the morning meeting for mayor with
the who were the pillars? Financiers? The financiers, Oh my
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got and Barbara is so brilliant. She's so funny, but
she's also so hot. Like a great opportunity to just
show off how smoking not she is. Can you see
my ass in this? Just so cute, so likable? Yeah,
(19:20):
I and I, like, you know, we were asking the
last episode, is Deb going to sabotage his campaign? You know?
And so it's great to see in this episode that
little sidebar conversation that she had with Karen where she's like,
I can make it messy for him. I have some ideas.
Let's do that. Okay, it's the most fun we should have.
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Would be really fun to have Barbara back to talk
about doing this stuff, because this is when she got
really got into the fun part of her work. Well,
and also so if she's I'm trying to think here
just storyline wise, because she went from being real like
square and like serious and we're watching the slippery slope
where like party deb comes out she's already going to
(20:06):
rehab for pills. Yeah, which we're not party pills. Those
were down her pills. Those were to like put her
to sleep. Now she's like using the alcohol as a
way to get it dan and just kind of make
a scene until it's not funny anymore. Like, at what
point does it go from being like Oh, this is
something I'm doing to mess with you too. Oh, oh,
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now I'm a mess. I know. She's always seemed to
have it all together, and that's probably I think why
Dan married her, right, it was I could see a
successful future with this woman. She's gonna she's gonna be
the wind beneath my wings and she's go get her. Yeah,
she's going to carry me into all the places I
(20:49):
need to go. And her dad had money and so
Deb sort of always had it together. So it's been
fun watching her unravel a bit. Um, But also, yeah,
that's there's a there's a painful element of that too.
There's it's it's hard to see im s hard to
(21:09):
see someone go through that where they don't know the
don't know really where they belong anymore, and he's been
gaslighting her their entire marriage. So it's she's kind of
figuring out who she is again for the first time
probably since high school or college. Well, it's fun too,
Like you said, watch this back as an adult and
be closer in age to the adults on the show
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than the kids. Um, And I think when we originally
did this, I didn't really buy into the whole like
Deb getting wild storyline. I didn't either. When we were
filming it, I was like, this is what mother would
do that, And I'm gonna tell you what mother would
do that us us Mother's joy awesome. Y'all ain't seen
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nothing to you. See Joy and I out at a
French night club or just making poor choices somewhere. We
joke about making poor choices, but God bless them, we
have fun. Um. Yeah, I get it now because it's like,
you're still young, You've got all these responsibilities, but inside
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we all still feel like fifteen sixteen years old. That's
what blows me away about getting older. I really always
it's so weird to see. Was this in the episode
last week that we watched. Somebody said, oh, oh it
was about Tommy Lee, and Sophia said it. She said,
he's he's like forty and he looks like that. Yeah,
(22:38):
it was so funny, but it really and we laughed
about it when we were watching it, but it's just true.
It's still hurt. I was like, oh God, now that
I'm getting older, I'm getting older and I look at
kids and I see they're so young. And I remember
thinking about people who are our age and like they're
(23:00):
so old and they've got it all together and there
and you know if they just they like they had
all the answers, We certainly don't know, guys were I'm
a child inside. I still feel like a kid. Hence
the reason, especially around boys like that doesn't go away either.
Like a cute boy starts talking to me, I'm like, okay,
(23:24):
mr even know how to function. I'm like sixteen all
over again. Every time. Um, you seem to handle yourself
very well with Chris Keller in this episode, you were like,
oh not today. Haley is good at it. Haley knows
what's up. What do you think it's like the crux
of that whole thing. Do you really think that Nathan
thinks he can trust Haley or is he just trying
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to create and like I got you moment. I think
he is trying to figure out if he can trust
her and and this is his weird high school way
of doing it. I mean, that's what I keep remembering
when I watched the show. We have to remember their
high schoolers. Peyton. Peyton's massive up and down, up and down,
up and down with Ellie. You know, she walks in
(24:07):
and sees the article and suddenly it's like it's all
for exploding itself for nothing. I hate you. Don't ever
talk to me a goad you know. An hour later,
I'm sorry, sorry, but that's that's high school. So I
think that's what Nathan is doing. I think he's just
trying to figure it out. I don't know. Do you
think it's a reasonable way of going about finding out
(24:28):
if you can trust someone or not? It certainly seems efficient.
It's like walking into traffic, you know what I mean.
Like it is, rather than be passive aggressive, it feels
aggressive aggressive, Like you know, one, let's just strip all
the bullsht away. If you can work with him and
you don't have feelings for him, fantastic, show me if
you do have feelings for him. I think the thing
(24:51):
that's complicated as an adult is that we know that
attraction and relationships are not some magic spell where you're
all the attracted to one person and you're only in
love with you know, Like, being in a monogamous relationship
is a choice, and you will find eight billion other
people in the world attractive, But your choice is to
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be with the person you're with and to honor them
and respect them, and so I think it's reasonable that
Haley can still think Chris Keller is like charming because
he is. He's yeah, of course so fun. Even Nathan
was trying not to like him on the basketball court.
He had a little smirk when Chris walked away. It's like, see,
he's likable. I think that's the redemption. It's not that
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Haley has to prove herself with Chris Keller. It's that
Nathan has to spend some time with him and be like,
you know what, I get it, I get it. This
is it's not romantic, but it's this is fine as
opposed to all the serious grown up that we've been doing.
This dude represents levity and you know, and Nathan kind
(25:59):
of needs a pal right now too, which just seems
like this is maybe gonna happen, like somehow Chris is
going to endear himself because I feel like eventually that's
where it goes. Yeah, exactly. Nathan definitely doesn't really have
a friend right now. Uh, what's going on with him
in Lucas? Why why is he being such a He's
very well, I should say, he's just very instigate and instigative,
(26:23):
and that's not the right word he's instigating things on
the captain. On the captain. Um, yeah is it? It's
so weird because he did all this work to not
be a jerk, and he's been the star player on
the team for a couple of years now, so being
captain's senior year isn't like a big deal. Like he
(26:43):
went to High Flyers, of course he's going to be
the captain. Yeah, but Lucas, Lucas was with him the
whole time Haley was gone. They were before they went
to the racetrack. Lucas was there to help him get
through that. They became good friends, they were living together.
So it just seems strange just because I mean, he's
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Nathan still hates Dan, So I just it feels a
little out of left field that just because Lucas was
looking into uh Dan's past and it's kind of setting
him up with Andy and all that, that's suddenly Nathan's like,
I hate you. I don't get it. That's I feel
like I missed something in the episodes. I wasn't here for, like,
(27:26):
like did they what they do? Um? It seems like
Lucas is always defending Haley, you know, Like that's how
the episode opens was like, you be nice to your wife,
telling you to be nice to her White he says
it best. I mean, he says to Dan at the
beginning of the episode, damn your sperm, Danny, when the
boys coming from plane out, maybe they are just like
(27:48):
genetically predisposed to turmoil. God, those poor boys. Yeah, he
really put him through it. Um Yeah, Dan running for mayors.
But I love this Karen coming back and saving the day.
This is exciting. You know what, Moira needed a storyline too.
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She wasn't doing anything. She hasn't been doing anything for
a while. Well because they didn't want to pay any
of her romantic interests, like Craig's gone, Larry, Larry's off
busy with Ellie Now, damn, let's talk about that, because
that was my favorite storyline. Everything else in the episode
was interconnected except the Peyton and Ellie stuff, and that
(28:33):
felt that felt kind of ground in the way that
you were saying the last episode Hayley's grounded nous storyline
with well, okay, I was going on at the party.
I felt the same way about Peyton and Ellie. In
this episode. You had some really nice work. It was.
It was really just subtle and and again grounded and
and gott Cheryl was so good too. Even the moment
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where she's on the m r I table and going
about to go into the miss the Cats game machine,
which we were talking about, that was like ten seconds
a shot of you know, they did a close up
of her face and she was upset, and then they
did the wide shot of her going into the tunnel. Um.
But they had to drive over there with all the trucks,
(29:18):
go into the hospital, set the trucks up because before
we had the hospital set I believe well, I mean,
we wouldn't have had all this m RI I equipment.
There's no way that we would have had this. So
they had to set all that up, get her into
a thing, you know, then they had to do this
ship close up shot of her face, then the wide shot.
It's so funny how that probably took like five hours
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all and all, but you know, for ten seconds, it's amazing.
Oh yeah, I mean it's those little parts of the
show where you're like, do we really need this right?
Like this is going to eat up a third of
a day, if not half of a day of filming.
Do we really absolutely need this ten seconds shot? And
we did I think so too, Yes, because someone telling
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you they have cancer is one thing, right, um, And
this is like in anything in storytelling, Saying it okay, fine,
showing it is entirely different because without saying a word,
we felt her fear, We felt the cheat that she's
such a young woman on this table, you know, and
(30:26):
and the fact that she's going through this medical treatment
in a town that she doesn't live in. She's been
living in a motel just to be close to this kid.
She's not with her family. I don't know where else. Yeah,
I don't know where she's supposed to be from. But
she references her parents in this episode. She's like, my
parents were hippies. You know. I wish Pete would have
followed up because those are her grandparents. I know you
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think she wants more details, but I did like this.
I really liked you guys as interaction in this and
H had more hospital stuff. Are we're just in the
somebody's always in the hospital on our show. You know.
It really was a missed opportunity that none of us
became a doctor, because that would have been the spin off.
Why didn't anybody become a nurse or nobody become a
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nurse or a doctor, a scientist or something. It's the
one profession that we didn't do. We had like clothing
designers and sportscasters and like musicians and writer you know what.
That's what it was. It was all kind of um
like self aggrandizing, Like nobody went into service, you know
everyone just like I want to work a spotlight job.
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I don't want to help anybody. That's what it is.
That's the ego behind all of it. Uh, we should
have had somebody who would have become a doctor, not me.
Peyton's like not hospitals. Yeah, hate them. Lucas would have
been a good doctor because that would have been really
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I mean not that we need like another can't really
spin off a show off of main character. You have
to fad have a side character who came in. It's
probably like like one of the River court boys, like
Fergie or John or skills nurse skills, nurse skills. He
could have been. I would feel confident if a nurse
(32:17):
came in, like if I needed stitches and I was like, Hi,
I'm Hillary and they're like I'm skills, great, show me up,
fix me you I want you? Yeah? Okay, Well We're
gonna have to talk to Antone about that. That's gonna
be fun. That's that's a medical show. I want to
see skills, nurse skills, nurse skills. Okay, So speaking of
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like new characters and side characters, we got a whopper
this episode. Rachel was introduced last week but didn't really
have a lot to do. She was just kind of
like a seed that was being planted. We got the
full Rachel this episode. Oh, it was glorious her. Yeah,
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I did, um didn't. I didn't love the way that
clearly she was being treated by by the her bosses.
I don't know what are we saying by the writers. Yeah,
I mean I think we can look at this episode
because there's you and I noticed a couple of questionable
things in this episode. We have to look at this
episode the lens of two thousand five, right, yeah, and
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and through the lens of a lot of men in
positions of power, and when you're doing your you're I
don't know, checking you know the boxes? Is this okay?
Is this green light? Is this okay? Is this green light? There?
Clearly wasn't a woman here that was like, you know
what the fat jokes are bad, especially because you're directing
(33:58):
them at a girl who's a size too size zero. Yeah,
for sure, it's absurd, But then it plants the seed
in every girl's head at home. If I'm Sophia size
or bigger, I'm shubby. Now. It was so wildly irresponsible
and off and so off and so irresponsible. Boys thought
(34:19):
it was funny, man, They were like, this is how
girls talk to each other. Well that and the punching
and slapping, and I mean it was just so so silly.
It's also it's not at all. Have you been in
a fight. I've been. No, I've only been close to
a fight when I was in like the fifth grade.
(34:41):
Did I ever tell you about this? No? I want
to hear it. In the fifth grade, and there was
this girl. There was this girl named Amanda. I don't
know where last name was, but she she was she
was a big, tall girl, and she was kind of
mean and grouchy and she just didn't like me. She
picked on me all all the time. And I used
(35:02):
to wear hats to school, a little bowler hat and
like cute hats with like a sunflower on it. Like
I feel like completely, I feel like maybe I've told
this story before and I can't remember. No, I don't
know anyway a man and I used to like bracelets
and anyway, So Amanda walks up to me in the
(35:24):
hallway one day. I have no idea why she was
mad at me, but true to exactly what you said, Hilary,
we were watching the episode and you said girls don't
punch each other, they pull hair, And this is what
she did. She walks up to me in the hallway
and grabs my hair and yanks my head back. So
I'm forced to stare kind of up at her, and
(35:45):
she's like yelling at me about something in my face
and you know, kind of throws my head back and
lets me go. And oh no, that I hit her
in the face and then she let me go. That's
what it was, I coming back. Yeah, yeah, I did.
So I reached up. She was a hold of my friend.
That was the only I could get it. Let her
to get go. But it wasn't like a full it
(36:06):
wasn't like a Dynasty slap or a Dallas slap. It's
just like popum like it's just a pop like get
off of me, you know. And then she did. And
then later we went out there was later on in
the day and she was like I'm gonna fight you,
blah blah bah and up in my face. And I
just was like, oh fine, I would rather get hit
and get in trouble and fight this girl then continue
(36:29):
on with this bullying day after day. So I took
off my hat, I handed to my friend, I pushed
up my sleeves, took all my bracelets off and my
necklaces and I put them all on the hat. And
I was like, okay, let's go. And I was fully ready,
fully ready to get hit and to hit her back.
And I was like in and then she just looked
looked up and down at me and was like whatever
and then walked away. And then she never bothered me again.
(36:51):
So let that be a lesson to you, I guess
be willing to fight. I don't know, yeah, yeah, I
mean I've been in a I've been on a couple
of scraps, not that I'm especially not as like a mother.
I'm like, if my kid came home I was like
I was in a fight, I would be like, what
what what I've got? The meanwhile, you know, it's like
a kid that grew up in the eighties and nineties.
(37:11):
I'm like, oh yeah all the time. Um wait, what
tell me what were the circumstances. You can be as
specific as you want or non specific, but how do
how does I don't know a lot of girls that
have gotten in fights. I mean, how does that happen?
I was attacked by a boy in elementary school. I
was to actually I got like beat by a boy.
Um what happened? You know? I think he had some
(37:35):
problems and I just became a target. Um. And he
would scream in my ear and so he would just
screech in my ear, kind of like in Dumb and Dumber.
That sounds like you want to hear the most annoyance
sound in the world. He was just screech. So I
elbowed him one day and I was like, don't scream
in my ear. And then he decided to follow me
(37:57):
home and beat me on like the walk home with
like a mailbox. And I mean it was really bad.
Um wait, how did he get he did? He pluck
it out of the ground, was lying on its side.
It was it was joy. It was insane, but it
also made me. You know, once you get over that
hump of being afraid of something like that you know
(38:20):
once you're once you have a mailbox thrown atche, who cares? Um?
And so did your brothers kicks? No, my brothers were
like in third grade, they were little no no. But
then like in high school, there were a couple of
confrontations like I've been shoved by a boy in high
school in front of the whole tenth grade and like
(38:40):
a lot of mail aggression. Um. They were like fights
that would come rolling down the hallway and I would
somehow get tangled up in them, and you know, just
like it's like sounds like the pep rally rooms. Why
are we on top of each other? It's like a
tumbleweed coming down senior Court and you're just like, I
don't know, there's arms and legs everywhere and so um.
(39:02):
I think the most accurate fight that we had in
the show was with me and Nikki where we're just
pulling each other's hair because that's what you do, you
pull hair. You remember Nan, I'm not going to say
his name, but I had a guy grabbed me at
a party and I need him in the balls and
it was like I remember thinking in the moment, I
(39:22):
was like, this is like something out of a movie.
He was on a football team. He knows who he is. Um, yeah,
it was just a lot. I mean, I didn't really
think about it. A lot a lot of male aggression
growing up as a as like a chick. But yeah,
I had a kid. I had a boy shoved me
up against a chain link fence with a baseball bat
up against my and we both got suspended. How did
(39:46):
you get suspended because I was involved? Cool story? You
know what I mean? Like, just right off? It takes
me so mad. I Um. I thankfully have a very
passive sweet son who anytime someone's an aggressler with him,
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he's always like, I think they have a bad home life.
And I'm like, yeah, probably, you know, but that's good.
Good on you and Jeff as parents for teaching him that,
because not every kid understands that. No, sometimes you just
want to you know about somebody. Um, I like that
in our tumble weed fight in this pep rally, none
of the boys hit us cheerleaders. We were just kind
(40:29):
of quarantine, two separate piles. Who were you fighting? Were
you fighting anyone? I don't remember this. I think I
was trying to pull people off of each other. That
seems like the most Haley thing to do, but I
couldn't spot me in the pile. Yeah. I remember tom
Wright being like, you're like big and like blonde, and
(40:50):
you look like big bird over here because you're just
kind of like hovering, So I need you to do something.
Can you fight the mascot? And I was like, I
would love to fight the mouse because I just know,
well Brooke in um, Brooke and Rachel fighting, and like
Peyton would naturally be like pulling Rachel off of Brook
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and like like yes, siding with Brooke and they're like, well,
we can't have you do that. Um, we need you
distracted over here, go jump on top of this bird. Okay,
Peyton then the bird fighting. But I feel like there's
a T shirt in there somewhere, probably one can hope. Um, okay.
(41:33):
So the introduction of Rachel, if you're Brooke, do you
hate her right away? Like like, what do you think
is behind that besides just the really kind of surface. Yeah.
We got to ask Sophia about this next time, because
she did start it. Brooke started it. I mean, Rachel
(41:55):
just walked in and she was super nice, like, hey, sorry,
I'm late. Is this still where we're at and Brooke
just didn't like her because of the night before at
the masquerade party, because she was dancing with Lucas and
Rachel even said, sorry, was that your boyfriend? I mean
it was a little bit she was like a little
sly about it, but she did say like, oh sorry.
She asked at the party too, she was like, are
(42:15):
you a couple? And Brooks says no, And then she
asks again is that your boyfriend? And Brooks like no,
I don't know how many times you have to ask
a chick if that's your boyfriend before you like, I'm
the new girl. I'm gonna kiss whoever I want. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,
I agree. I don't. I don't. I don't know Brooks
started it. So I'm kind of like, I think I
(42:38):
don't like that Rachel's enjoying getting getting under brook skin.
I mean that's annoying, but uh no, I think it's
just that now that's kind of what people. I guess
that's a high school thing to do, right. You just
think that you're going to play this game with a
boy and you're gonna test him, and oh yeah, let's
talk about her whole test with him too, because this
(43:00):
is what feels weird to me, But I don't know,
are doing the same thing. They're both being weirdo dictators
and they're both testing their person And I'm just like,
whoever was writing Nathan was also writing brook They were
just like, we're gonna make them do the same things. Yeah,
that's it. Nathan's test seems a little more reasonable to
(43:22):
me than Brooks. Brooks feels like a bait and switch. Yeah.
It also just kind of seems like, look, do you
love him or not? Why? Why are you Why are
you pushing him away intentionally to see you know, like
you said, there's eight million people you're gonna find attractive
in the world. Who's your choice? And Lucas kept telling
(43:44):
her you're my choice. I want to be with you.
She's like, no, go see if there's other people you're attractive.
If the person you have to kiss a person, she
gives him really the best? Am I really the best?
And I don't know, I don't think that's fair. I mean,
I like the storyline because it is very high school.
That's the kind of stuff you rationalize as a teenager.
(44:07):
And I can look back on my journals and be like,
oh god, you're so irritating it makes for great storytelling.
I love watching it. It's so fun. But don't do
that now. No. I mean I I'm so team Brooke
in most things, but in this I'm just like baby yeah.
(44:30):
And he's still even on the date. It's like you
read his body language like in no way is he
draped all over this girl, Like he's not doing anything.
I don't want to do this. Please don't touched this
hot redhead. I don't want it. It's so all for Brooke,
and you know what, it's actually a good example of
(44:50):
how men and women miss each other a lot. You know,
he's doing all this for Brook because he thinks that
this is what she wants, and what she wants is
the exact opposite of what she's saying. And for her,
she's saying, you should have you should have been able
to read my mind. But it's different than her maybe
(45:11):
body language or her the way that she's kind of
acting being drawn out through a relationship, versus her specifically
saying this is what I want, but then having it
be actually the opposite. That's very She's so clear about
what the rules are. She's so clear. I think she
(45:32):
just wanted him to go out with someone who she
felt was less than her, like less magnetic, less attractive, less,
you know, somebody who wasn't a threat. And this Rachel
girl shows up and is season one Brook. Yeah, she's
in the backseat of the car. She's down to get
frisky whenever, she's doing sexy time dances. She's got every
(45:55):
she's a popular girl. The cheerleaders are loving her. She's
getting along with every buddy. Oh yeah, that's what she says.
My entire squad has a crush on her. By the way,
we did we all did you know who I love
seeing more of in this episode two is Bevin. I
know she didn't have a lot of lines, but she
(46:16):
really we really got to get to know her and
her get more familiar with her face and just see
her more. I loved that. Well. I think they saw
how valuable it was to have the Tim character on
the boy's side, to have not everyone's the leader of
the group, not everyone's the alpha of the group, and
so to have those kind of wingman it gives your
lead characters places to go and realistic communities, and so
(46:41):
having the female counterpart. When the show ended, did Tim
and Bevan end up together? Oh? My gosh, I think
they did. That's like perfect. Wait, wasn't it skills Skills
dated Skills dated her? In season three, I think they're
about to get together. Oh yeah, but but yeah, I
(47:02):
feel like Tim and Bevan are the same person. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I like it. That's good. The dance that Danielle had
to do. Here's what I'm gonna say. I think part
of the reason Danielle was so well respected and so
well liked is that she came in and this was
a hot show. Everybody wanted this part. Danielle came in
(47:23):
and had to do this kind of humiliating dance, and
she had to do it over and over and over again.
And she came in with so much grace, and she
didn't pretend like she wasn't like, oh my god, I
hate this, you know, like, she didn't pretend like she
wasn't there to do a job. She showed up, she
did her job, She communicated with everyone, she was so
(47:45):
hyper professional, like it blew my mind. And and so
I like that. Peyton immediately is like, I don't know,
I like her because that's how I felt like that's
in real life. I was like, this girl's have to
do the most ridiculous I've ever seen on our show. Yeah,
and she's just not making it weird for anyone, you know,
(48:09):
She's just I'm here, let's do it now. She was
great and then two g got introduced to this episode.
Oh my gosh, we have to talk about Kelsey. We
can't end this episode without talking about Kelsey. I love her.
She and I stayed in touch a bit. Um we
ran into each other I don't know, like five years
after the show was over, and then have stayed in
(48:31):
touch ever since. And um, she's just such a cool girl.
She's on Yellowstone now playing Um, I can't remember the
name of her character. She's Kevin Costner's daughter in law. Yeah, yeah,
that's right. But also she's like like a perfect tin.
And Jeff starts watching this show, I'm like, I know her,
and He's like, you don't know her, Hillary, you know everybody,
And I'm like, no, she was a child on One
(48:52):
Tree Hill. I know her. Yeah, Like I literally know her.
She was, But I guess I thought she was like
sixteen when she did our because in order to work
the hours we worked. But now that I'm doing the math,
I'm like, I think she was fourteen, she was little. Yeah,
and I think she told me that too, You know,
I don't, you know, I have a terrible memory, but
I'm pretty sure she told me that. Yeah. But she
(49:15):
is so it's insane how beautiful she is. That's one
of those faces that and she talks like this. She's
just got a really sweet, like soft southern voice. Ah,
she's so enchanting. I hope we get to have the
right word for her, enchant She is enchanting. Yeah, I
would love to know what her experience was as like
a real high school kid working on our pretend high
(49:38):
school set, you know, because she was only supposed to
be in a couple of episodes. And I think she
stuck around for a while, Yes she did. She did.
That must have been so weird for her, Like, you
guys are doing it wrong. We don't use that slang anymore,
your big weirdos um is that? Dear kids say that
(49:58):
to you now, because Marie I says it to me
all the time. She's like, mom, nobody says killer anymore.
Nobody says trainers. I was, like, I said, sent a text.
She's reading over my shoulder, Like I said, are you
avail to somebody and she's like a veil mom. It's
like Karen, who um god. Yeah. Now my son gets
(50:20):
humiliated when I play music for his friends because I'll
try to be cool and like put jay z on
in the car and he's like, Mommy, stop stop, stop
stop stop. This is an US thing that we do
without my friends around. Um, all right, what else have
we missed? I don't like. I don't like all the
chubby talk. That really made me mad. I'm looking at
(50:41):
my notes and the things that I put big exclamation
marks next to me too, And that was a go
to joke from then on side the way, not just
for but for me as well. They just kept they
really kept it up. They liked using that. I don't
so Erry, No, I don't know. There's just so many
other things that you insult someone about, like fake insults. Fine,
(51:04):
you know what making fun of somebody's being like, oh
you're dumb. You know that you can find smart ways
of calling something. Your clothes are tacky, you know that's
a changeable thing. I don't know. Yeah, your hair, your
hair color or whatever, hairstyle. You know, she used to poke.
Brooke used to poke fun all the time at Haley's hair.
It was cute, It's funny. Yeah, well this is also
I feel like season three is the season where things
(51:26):
went off the rails behind the scenes and so you
can start to see more of it work its way
into the stuff in front of the camera. Um. So
I'm gonna try my best not to be like triggered
by it, um because I really enjoy season Yeah. I
mean season three I love so much. And I think
that the people who joined our cast season three were
(51:48):
really strong and we had fun and it was like
our show. People were watching it. We didn't know that
season one or two, but by season three we were like,
what's up now, bitches. Yeah, it's like now when they're
telling us we're on the bubble, like we don't know
if you're picking your up last you next year? You know? Okay, No,
good story, guys, Emily asks, can anyone recite any of
(52:18):
the basketball, cheers or dance routines performed on the show. No,
but I did remember doing that one move, the arm
pump that was part of the arm pump that was
part of this routine here that was kind of funny.
I would use real cheers from high school, so we
would have to do just like filler stuff because they
would do all the boys basketball sequences, right yeah, and
(52:40):
we we wouldn't be on camera, but then they would
just need to get us cheering on the sidelines and
doing reaction shots. So I try to remember, like what
our easiest cheers were from high school, and it was
always like you go, Patriots go like but then we
change it to yeah, we just I love that you
so utah, real cheers from your high school to the
(53:01):
other cheerleaders, I mean, and most of the cheerleaders. If
you grew up doing cheerleading on the East Coast, chances
are you went to like an n c A cheerleading camp.
There were a couple of camps, and so we all
knew the same cheers up and down the East Coast.
So especially because I was from Virginia and like Bevan
and the rest of the girls were from North Carolina,
(53:23):
we all kind of knew the same things from camp um.
So yeah, we all Even in this episode where they
were playing the jock jams, I couldn't do the arm motions.
I know, years old, still doing the arm moves when
(53:43):
I hear a jock jam. That's just how it's gonna go, oh,
it's been a wheel hey, most likely to have lied
the most on their driver's license information? Okay, um, I
(54:10):
mean who's got the biggest ego on the show, Dan, Yeah,
Dan's like, I definitely weigh one seventy. I am six four.
You know, Paul is six four. He's definitely giving like
all his high school stats and probably like in definitely
(54:34):
not an organ donor. No, no, okay, yes, Dan is
most likely to lie for sure. Who do we think
fibbs in real life? Are we allowed to say? I mean,
it's most likely to five in a driver's license in
real life. Well, I'm gonna say Kelsey because I think
she lied to us about how old she was on
(54:56):
the show. She's like, she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you
guys am totally sixty years old. And meanwhile she's like,
you know, in middle school, she was definitely a little tiny. Alright, Kesey,
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Drama Queens. Welcome, Welcome Back at Season three, episode five,
A Multitude of Casualties Air date November two, two thousand five.
Tom Wright was back directing him so much love him.
I thought there was a good writing in this episode.
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To Arlie Fleming Jr. Wrote, wrote this one um. The
synopsis here is basketball season starts at tree Hill High
with a disastrous midnight pep rally, which neither of us
ever did I know a pep rally. I can move
around a pep rally blindfolded. This was I know you do.
(01:02):
Everyone's throwing punches. It goes crazy. Brooke is threatened by
a new girl Rachel and the cheer squad our beloved
Danil Harris accles and uh Nathan puts Hayley to the test.
He just openly tells her I'm testing you uh, and
forces her to work with Chris Keller, which is really
just our excuse to get Tyler back on the show. Him. Oh,
(01:23):
he's so good. And then Whitey, who is super kind
of nice and cheery this whole episode, all of a sudden,
has a big blowout when he has to make a
decision about forcing Nathan and Lucas to work together again.
And then Dan gets a surprising opponent running against him
for mayor. Lots happening, but we don't talk about Peyton
(01:47):
in this in the synopsis. I don't know why, because
this was my favorite part of the whole episode, was
the Peyton storyline. Um, before we get into any of it,
should we tell people about what we've been cooking up? Yeah,
let's do you know what. I think the idea came
(02:07):
to us kind of during the Dare Night episode because
we love a scavenger hunt, like we literally like I
did that for my birthday. It was so much fun.
I had all my friends cut we we all met
in one place. Everybody got a little booklet with a
glue stick and a Polaroid camera and then they got
(02:29):
a list and they had to go. We all had
to go out on the town. We had like an
hour and a half and you had to go find
all these things in the street and random things, you know,
roll the toilet paper from a restaurant, bottle caps from
my bar, a chalk outline on the street, you know,
and you had to take a polar ride of your
team with the thing and then paste it into the book,
and whoever made it first, you know, got the prize.
I remember like kissing a dude because he had a
(02:50):
scavenger Hunt written it out on his T shirt. It
was his like bachelor party, and it was like, you
have to kiss a strange blond woman. And I was like,
I'm a strange blond woman. It's I'll do it. Yeah,
you know, it's just it's an excuse to goof around
and have some fun. And so we wanted to create
a cyber scavenger hunt for our fans because we really
(03:12):
have been so lucky that so many of you spend
your week with us, um and we've got some It's
it's this is a big payoff to This is not
just like, oh it's cute, like y'all are going to
freak out. It's not just a T shirt. Joy and
tell them what they're gonna win. Here's what you're gonna win.
We're gonna explain the rules of the game in a minute.
But what you're gonna win, let's get to that with this. Okay,
(03:33):
you get a zoom with the Drama Queens. That's I
think that's gonna be really fun. Then, Um, sorry, my
dog is drinking out of the water bowl right now.
It's the loudest thing in the world. Are you good?
Heidi like banging her metal collar against the thing. Um,
you're gonna win a zoom with the Drama Queens, So
all three of us are gonna sit and have a
(03:53):
chat with you. You're gonna win a trip, a trip
to North Carolina to Wilmington's North Carolina, which includes Hillary
Tom What's what's in it? Baby? It is domestic round
trip airfare. H Let's see what else do we got
here for the what's for a winner and one guest
(04:14):
for the winner and one guest? Hold on, I'm zooming
this up. We got a whole list, folks. All right,
So you're gonna get domestic round trip airfare for the
winner and a guest. You were going to get two
nights in a hotel and a five dollar visa gift card. Um,
it's just some spend in cash for that river walk,
so you can pretend you're Nathan and Haley sitting there
(04:36):
by the Fair River. Maybe we'll try and find a
little bracelet to throw in there for you do. It's
so exciting. We've been working on this for a while
because we wanted to make it really special for you guys.
We wanted you to feel everything that we felt when
we were back there in Wilmington's and just still experienced
and experienced the town the way that it is, um
with with all of the history that we walked through
(05:00):
all those years ago, and um, we want you to
be a part of that. So here's how we've structured
this so that you can win this trip and this zoom.
You're going to follow the instructions on Drama Queens O
t H on Instagram. So it's at Drama Queens O
t H, which hopefully you're already following. If you're not,
(05:20):
right now, that's right now is your time. We're gonna
post ten questions that only true drama queens would know.
Explain a little bit about that. Yeah, So here's the deal.
Everybody knows all the one Tree Hill trivia on the Internet.
It's out there. There's like Wikipedia pages about who kissed
who and this and that. We wanted to really reward
(05:41):
our listeners and so these ten questions are things that
you would only know if you have listened to our episodes.
We have carefully crafted these, So that's the scavenger hunt. Um.
If you haven't caught up on all your episodes, now
would be a great time to do it, um, because yeah,
these are all the kind of behind the scenes questions
(06:01):
that we've had a lot of fun digging into. And yeah,
the harder the better. Get hard. So what you're gonna
do is, once you know the answers to those questions,
you're gonna email drama Queens at i heeart Radio dot com.
Sup super easy Drama Queens at i heeart Radio dot com,
or you can d m s at Drama Queens o
th h and put your answers to the questions right
(06:22):
on in there. And for anyone who answers all ten
questions correctly, you will automatically get placed in a drawing.
It's just a it's a standard raffle. We're gonna stick
your name in there and one person is going to
be chosen one winner at random, and you will get
a zoom with the Drama Queens and a trip to Wilmington,
North Carolina to see where it all began. Well well
(06:44):
probably also like tell them where to go in the zoom,
Like we should zoom before they go on the trip
so we can be like go here, go here, go here.
Oh yeah, we have to, we have to. Or while
they're they're oh, that's good too, that's fun too. Yeah,
we're gonna have lots of good advice for you guys.
It's to be so fun. I can't wait to see
who wins this because we do have some really loyal
fans that were on a first name basis with now
(07:06):
and I feel like they're like, DIBs, DIBs, yep, I'm
coming forward, get on over there and check it out. Awesome,
can't wait. Awesome, Awesome, And thank you to my Heart
for helping us set that up. They've been really cool about,
you know, letting us connect with our fans in this way. Um.
So yeah, okay, this episode bananas joy Bananas. Yeah. I
(07:30):
mean it wasn't as big as the last episode it
felt like it, but but I did like that they
went back in time. Have we done that yet on
this show? I think we, like the three days before
something didn't have every I mean we had another. We
went from having a huge party last episode to a
huge pep rally this episode. It's like there're lots of
extras continually trying to one up themselves. I remember our
(07:52):
crew getting fatigue at this point, just being like, bro,
can we just have a couple like quiet episodes where
people just like talk and cry? What happened to people
making moody faces and just like crying? Can we do
more of that? Please? You know, we're going to teach
you a dance routine. Not'll be easy. Haley becomes a cheerleader. God,
(08:13):
I love it. I love it. Haley should have always
been a cheerleader. Yeah. I like that she kind of
finds her way into it begrudgingly. Um. I looked like
I was eleven years old in that cheer costumes, standing
up against the wall behind like that. You call it
a cheer costume. What's it called? It's a uniform? Joy? Oh? Sorry, yeah,
(08:34):
it's a sport. Okay. You're like, we went to cheer rehearsal.
What are the basketball auditions? That's happening. Yeah, um no,
I thought there kids the whole pushback that Haley had,
that scene that you and Sophia had in the apartment
where she is so pleased with herself that she came
(08:57):
up with this genius plan and you're just like, yeah,
you guys, good pair. Yeah, it was fun. It was
really nice to see that chemistry happened. I like that
they leaned into that this season because you and I
got some real time in the first season and then
they had to break us up idiot together totally. Uh,
(09:21):
but yeah we did, And I like, I like where
Brooks at right now, and I think it's really fun.
She was having a lot of fun with her character.
Sophia was having a lot of fun with her character
in this episode, so much pouting and petulant stomping around
and you know, a bed of her own making that
she's had to lie in. Well, her writing is so
(09:42):
good in this what does she say that one time?
She goes, oh, great, we solved your Riddle's let's get
back to mine. Yeah, fantastic, We've solved your riddle. Um no,
the writing for book is really good. They zoned in
on her. Yeah, they figured out how good she is
at comedy and they're like, oh, well, let's let's right
to that because we need more of that on the
show for sure. Thank god. Yeah, well this midnight pep
(10:05):
rally she is. You know, there's like two different authoritative
groups running this pep rally. Got Nathan on his like
power spree being I'm a captain. I'm captain captain, and
then Brooke is like I'm captain and they're kind of
running these parallel It was fun. Yeah, these like aggressive
(10:28):
captain maneuvers, which is as someone who's been a captain,
that is not how you run your ship. Who his Oh,
how do you do it? How to talk to me
about being a cheer captain because you are a natural leader. Hillary, Well,
I wasn't cheer captain senior year. That was Ashley Dawston
and Nanika King and they were so good. But I
was cheer captain's sophomore year for jp UM. I got
(10:52):
too dark as I got older, Like I I was
Peyton Sawyer. I had a megaphone with like a picture
of Charles Manson on it and like all these like
super angsty like quotes. I'm mad, but I'm also here
in these bloomers, so call it what it is. Um, yeah,
(11:13):
you don't do that. There was a girl who was
a year older than me, who was a really awful
captain like that, and and nobody liked her. And as
this is a terrible story, we became grown ups and
she went and she interviewed for a job at one
of my friends offices, and she was just like, we
can't hire her. She's a terrible cheer captain. Oh my god,
(11:37):
he comes back to haunt you. Man. Don't be a dick.
That's just true. It's life. Um No, I've never heard
of this midnight pep rally things. Midnight mass, I know,
but midnight pep rally. You can get people to show
up at church at midnight, but not a pep rally.
That seems backwards somehow. Well, and it's only it's Christmas
(11:58):
eve joy, people only a church on Christmas. Even that's
true for midnight mass. Yeah, if anybody out there did
have midnight pep rallies, tell us, because I went to
a huge football school and it was like, I don't know,
you didn't want kids out roaming the town at one
o'clock in the morning. That seems weird. That seems so weird,
but that's our kind of our m oh, isn't it
(12:20):
that they're all out at trick, at these like lock
in parties and at these you know parties where there's alcohol,
and parents just seemed to be totally fine with their
kids going to this club that's run by a high
school girl where there's liquor and crazy bands. Because the
liquor or was it just like you know, soda pop.
Do we remember if that was actual liquor behind the
(12:42):
bar or if they replaced Well I knew that, like
they had bartenders there, but then on these all ages nights,
maybe they would lock it up. No, I mean in
real life. Oh, I mean in real life, I had
a water bottle full of liquor, So I have no
idea what was going on behind the box. I didn't
have to go behind the bar, I know, I don't know.
(13:04):
I feel like there were some of the bottles were
all sealed up, but some of them were open, and
I feel like at some point we got in there
and tried to discover which ones were real and which
ones weren't. Somebody had to have filled some up with
real stuff. You know. The crew had definitely had some
long days and they were like, somebody go find the
Jack Daniels. That's like the fourth one on the right,
the props department or can we call it the art
(13:26):
department please? Um? Yeah? Did you have pepper rallies at
your high school? We did? Um? I think I went
to a few, although our our high school was we
did do basketball, but we were bigger and soccer. Yeah.
I went to Eastern Eastern Christian e C High in
(13:47):
North Hamleton, New Jersey. What up New Jersey? And uh,
they were big. It was a big, big soccer town.
So we did a lot of those. And I did
go to a lot of the soccer games I was.
I didn't go to many of the basketball games EC Eagles.
I was a cheerleader for a semester, Yes, for which sport?
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I think he was basketball. I don't know why I didn't.
I just couldn't. I didn't care. I think that's what
it was. Had a hard time appreciate you so much.
Joy Like, hey, guys, you're jumping up and down. Is
it helping? Is it really helping? Are the boys gonna
(14:31):
they're going to shoot more baskets because you're jumping open down.
I feel you don't I get it. Yeah, I guess
I thought my time would just be better spent somewhere else.
I was like, I'm in this skirt and we're and
I'm learning how to throw my arms in these weird positions,
and it's not I don't know, it wasn't for me.
I mean, obviously a lot of people really love it
and they're they're great for pep. They get the crowd excited.
(14:53):
I'm never I've never been one of those people that's like,
good morning. I said good morning, just can't post it
on social media the other day how much you hate
the good morning? Well, Dan Scott is very much the
(15:17):
guy in this episode who's like I said good morning
at this time. He is so in. This was a
brilliant move by the writers, by the way, what to
put Dan in the position of running for mayor. I see,
it's such a perfect spot for Paul. It's applicable. I mean,
I I know people that run for local office and
(15:39):
they're not I guess when I was a kid, I
thought it was like, I don't know kind of untouchable
people that would run for these offices. And now that
I'm a grown up, I'm like, no, that's just that
dude from down the street. Like they're not different from us,
they're just you know, they've got time on their hands. Yeah,
it's just Karen that runs a campaign. So it's just kidding. Yeah,
(16:00):
the whole Like you pointed this out, you're like, literally
every character in our show hates Dan, but somehow the
whole town loves him. Yeah. I don't know how that works.
It's strange. Also, as someone who has been to a
lot of pep rallies, like a lot, I've never seen
a parent from them, Like where's the principle? That's usually
(16:24):
the person that's like on the microphone and maybe you
let a parent talk for two seconds. But I guess
Whitey was the one who is sort of leading the frame.
But it should have been a kid. I mean that
is that's right. It's like the kids kind of run
the pep rally. That's what's exciting about it. It's so
weird to see like this grown up who's literally at
the school every single day, like Dan lives at the
(16:44):
school or in the Logistically, I cannot figure this out. Okay,
So yes, I get that. The whole thing about people
who are abusive is that often they're they're pillars in
the community. Everyone loves them, and it's just in their home,
their monsters that happens. I know that's real, um, And
I've experienced some of that in my life, so I
know firsthand that it's real. However, Dan is not just
(17:10):
abusive to the like four or five people in his
little circle. I mean, you don't get to be that
kind of a meglomaniac unless you're screwing people over left
and right. He runs a dealership, you know, he's in
dirty deals with everybody all the time, screwing people. He
walked around looking for ways to screw people over. So
how does he not, in a small town like that,
(17:32):
have a terrible reputation? Like how I don't understand anybody
who went to high school with him knows, like, oh yeah, Danny,
he's a dick. Like I know the kids I went
to high school with that were dicks and I would
never vote for them. May And he's still in the
town that he went to the high school where he
went to high school. Oh yeah, yeah, where are all
like the kids that he picked on in high school
(17:53):
or that damn like the girls that he like, you know,
cheated on Karen with all that kind of I know
now that we're older and enjoying the adult storylines more,
that's the kind of stuff I wish we would have
seen that would have been really fun. Listen, the fact
that Dan had to campaign at all is weird. If
he's running unopposed, but he's still having to do this
(18:16):
whole like, these are the billboards, this is my jersey
getting retired. Here are my pamphlets and my buttons? Like
what kind of door campaign? Just blowing money? If he's
on a post. This was not thought through as well
as it should have been. No one in our writer's
room ran for local office ever, know you know what
(18:38):
they did think through about this war of the roses
between him and Deb. I'm loving this story like I
wanted to go on forever and ever. I'm obsessed. So
this is the episode where Dan puts Deb's toothbrush in
the toilet and then she shows up with her whiskey
and her lingerie at the morning meeting for mayor with
the who were the pillars? Financiers? The financiers, Oh my
(19:00):
got and Barbara is so brilliant. She's so funny, but
she's also so hot. Like a great opportunity to just
show off how smoking not she is. Can you see
my ass in this? Just so cute, so likable? Yeah,
(19:20):
I and I, like, you know, we were asking the
last episode, is Deb going to sabotage his campaign? You know?
And so it's great to see in this episode that
little sidebar conversation that she had with Karen where she's like,
I can make it messy for him. I have some ideas.
Let's do that. Okay, it's the most fun we should have.
(19:44):
Would be really fun to have Barbara back to talk
about doing this stuff, because this is when she got
really got into the fun part of her work. Well,
and also so if she's I'm trying to think here
just storyline wise, because she went from being real like
square and like serious and we're watching the slippery slope
where like party deb comes out she's already going to
(20:06):
rehab for pills. Yeah, which we're not party pills. Those
were down her pills. Those were to like put her
to sleep. Now she's like using the alcohol as a
way to get it dan and just kind of make
a scene until it's not funny anymore. Like, at what
point does it go from being like Oh, this is
something I'm doing to mess with you too. Oh, oh,
(20:28):
now I'm a mess. I know. She's always seemed to
have it all together, and that's probably I think why
Dan married her, right, it was I could see a
successful future with this woman. She's gonna she's gonna be
the wind beneath my wings and she's go get her. Yeah,
she's going to carry me into all the places I
(20:49):
need to go. And her dad had money and so
Deb sort of always had it together. So it's been
fun watching her unravel a bit. Um, But also, yeah,
that's there's a there's a painful element of that too.
There's it's it's hard to see im s hard to
(21:09):
see someone go through that where they don't know the
don't know really where they belong anymore, and he's been
gaslighting her their entire marriage. So it's she's kind of
figuring out who she is again for the first time
probably since high school or college. Well, it's fun too,
Like you said, watch this back as an adult and
be closer in age to the adults on the show
(21:29):
than the kids. Um, And I think when we originally
did this, I didn't really buy into the whole like
Deb getting wild storyline. I didn't either. When we were
filming it, I was like, this is what mother would
do that, And I'm gonna tell you what mother would
do that us us Mother's joy awesome. Y'all ain't seen
(21:51):
nothing to you. See Joy and I out at a
French night club or just making poor choices somewhere. We
joke about making poor choices, but God bless them, we
have fun. Um. Yeah, I get it now because it's like,
you're still young, You've got all these responsibilities, but inside
(22:12):
we all still feel like fifteen sixteen years old. That's
what blows me away about getting older. I really always
it's so weird to see. Was this in the episode
last week that we watched. Somebody said, oh, oh it
was about Tommy Lee, and Sophia said it. She said,
he's he's like forty and he looks like that. Yeah,
(22:38):
it was so funny, but it really and we laughed
about it when we were watching it, but it's just true.
It's still hurt. I was like, oh God, now that
I'm getting older, I'm getting older and I look at
kids and I see they're so young. And I remember
thinking about people who are our age and like they're
(23:00):
so old and they've got it all together and there
and you know if they just they like they had
all the answers, We certainly don't know, guys were I'm
a child inside. I still feel like a kid. Hence
the reason, especially around boys like that doesn't go away either.
Like a cute boy starts talking to me, I'm like, okay,
(23:24):
mr even know how to function. I'm like sixteen all
over again. Every time. Um, you seem to handle yourself
very well with Chris Keller in this episode, you were like,
oh not today. Haley is good at it. Haley knows
what's up. What do you think it's like the crux
of that whole thing. Do you really think that Nathan
thinks he can trust Haley or is he just trying
(23:46):
to create and like I got you moment. I think
he is trying to figure out if he can trust
her and and this is his weird high school way
of doing it. I mean, that's what I keep remembering
when I watched the show. We have to remember their
high schoolers. Peyton. Peyton's massive up and down, up and down,
up and down with Ellie. You know, she walks in
(24:07):
and sees the article and suddenly it's like it's all
for exploding itself for nothing. I hate you. Don't ever
talk to me a goad you know. An hour later,
I'm sorry, sorry, but that's that's high school. So I
think that's what Nathan is doing. I think he's just
trying to figure it out. I don't know. Do you
think it's a reasonable way of going about finding out
(24:28):
if you can trust someone or not? It certainly seems efficient.
It's like walking into traffic, you know what I mean.
Like it is, rather than be passive aggressive, it feels
aggressive aggressive, Like you know, one, let's just strip all
the bullsht away. If you can work with him and
you don't have feelings for him, fantastic, show me if
you do have feelings for him. I think the thing
(24:51):
that's complicated as an adult is that we know that
attraction and relationships are not some magic spell where you're
all the attracted to one person and you're only in
love with you know, Like, being in a monogamous relationship
is a choice, and you will find eight billion other
people in the world attractive, But your choice is to
(25:12):
be with the person you're with and to honor them
and respect them, and so I think it's reasonable that
Haley can still think Chris Keller is like charming because
he is. He's yeah, of course so fun. Even Nathan
was trying not to like him on the basketball court.
He had a little smirk when Chris walked away. It's like, see,
he's likable. I think that's the redemption. It's not that
(25:33):
Haley has to prove herself with Chris Keller. It's that
Nathan has to spend some time with him and be like,
you know what, I get it, I get it. This
is it's not romantic, but it's this is fine as
opposed to all the serious grown up that we've been doing.
This dude represents levity and you know, and Nathan kind
(25:59):
of needs a pal right now too, which just seems
like this is maybe gonna happen, like somehow Chris is
going to endear himself because I feel like eventually that's
where it goes. Yeah, exactly. Nathan definitely doesn't really have
a friend right now. Uh, what's going on with him
in Lucas? Why why is he being such a He's
very well, I should say, he's just very instigate and instigative,
(26:23):
and that's not the right word he's instigating things on
the captain. On the captain. Um, yeah is it? It's
so weird because he did all this work to not
be a jerk, and he's been the star player on
the team for a couple of years now, so being
captain's senior year isn't like a big deal. Like he
(26:43):
went to High Flyers, of course he's going to be
the captain. Yeah, but Lucas, Lucas was with him the
whole time Haley was gone. They were before they went
to the racetrack. Lucas was there to help him get
through that. They became good friends, they were living together.
So it just seems strange just because I mean, he's
(27:04):
Nathan still hates Dan, So I just it feels a
little out of left field that just because Lucas was
looking into uh Dan's past and it's kind of setting
him up with Andy and all that, that's suddenly Nathan's like,
I hate you. I don't get it. That's I feel
like I missed something in the episodes. I wasn't here for, like,
(27:26):
like did they what they do? Um? It seems like
Lucas is always defending Haley, you know, Like that's how
the episode opens was like, you be nice to your wife,
telling you to be nice to her White he says
it best. I mean, he says to Dan at the
beginning of the episode, damn your sperm, Danny, when the
boys coming from plane out, maybe they are just like
(27:48):
genetically predisposed to turmoil. God, those poor boys. Yeah, he
really put him through it. Um Yeah, Dan running for mayors.
But I love this Karen coming back and saving the day.
This is exciting. You know what, Moira needed a storyline too.
(28:08):
She wasn't doing anything. She hasn't been doing anything for
a while. Well because they didn't want to pay any
of her romantic interests, like Craig's gone, Larry, Larry's off
busy with Ellie Now, damn, let's talk about that, because
that was my favorite storyline. Everything else in the episode
was interconnected except the Peyton and Ellie stuff, and that
(28:33):
felt that felt kind of ground in the way that
you were saying the last episode Hayley's grounded nous storyline
with well, okay, I was going on at the party.
I felt the same way about Peyton and Ellie. In
this episode. You had some really nice work. It was.
It was really just subtle and and again grounded and
and gott Cheryl was so good too. Even the moment
(28:56):
where she's on the m r I table and going
about to go into the miss the Cats game machine,
which we were talking about, that was like ten seconds
a shot of you know, they did a close up
of her face and she was upset, and then they
did the wide shot of her going into the tunnel. Um.
But they had to drive over there with all the trucks,
(29:18):
go into the hospital, set the trucks up because before
we had the hospital set I believe well, I mean,
we wouldn't have had all this m RI I equipment.
There's no way that we would have had this. So
they had to set all that up, get her into
a thing, you know, then they had to do this
ship close up shot of her face, then the wide shot.
It's so funny how that probably took like five hours
(29:39):
all and all, but you know, for ten seconds, it's amazing.
Oh yeah, I mean it's those little parts of the
show where you're like, do we really need this right?
Like this is going to eat up a third of
a day, if not half of a day of filming.
Do we really absolutely need this ten seconds shot? And
we did I think so too, Yes, because someone telling
(30:03):
you they have cancer is one thing, right, um, And
this is like in anything in storytelling, Saying it okay, fine,
showing it is entirely different because without saying a word,
we felt her fear, We felt the cheat that she's
such a young woman on this table, you know, and
(30:26):
and the fact that she's going through this medical treatment
in a town that she doesn't live in. She's been
living in a motel just to be close to this kid.
She's not with her family. I don't know where else. Yeah,
I don't know where she's supposed to be from. But
she references her parents in this episode. She's like, my
parents were hippies. You know. I wish Pete would have
followed up because those are her grandparents. I know you
(30:47):
think she wants more details, but I did like this.
I really liked you guys as interaction in this and
H had more hospital stuff. Are we're just in the
somebody's always in the hospital on our show. You know.
It really was a missed opportunity that none of us
became a doctor, because that would have been the spin off.
Why didn't anybody become a nurse or nobody become a
(31:11):
nurse or a doctor, a scientist or something. It's the
one profession that we didn't do. We had like clothing
designers and sportscasters and like musicians and writer you know what.
That's what it was. It was all kind of um
like self aggrandizing, Like nobody went into service, you know
everyone just like I want to work a spotlight job.
(31:35):
I don't want to help anybody. That's what it is.
That's the ego behind all of it. Uh, we should
have had somebody who would have become a doctor, not me.
Peyton's like not hospitals. Yeah, hate them. Lucas would have
been a good doctor because that would have been really
(31:55):
I mean not that we need like another can't really
spin off a show off of main character. You have
to fad have a side character who came in. It's
probably like like one of the River court boys, like
Fergie or John or skills nurse skills, nurse skills. He
could have been. I would feel confident if a nurse
(32:17):
came in, like if I needed stitches and I was like, Hi,
I'm Hillary and they're like I'm skills, great, show me up,
fix me you I want you? Yeah? Okay, Well We're
gonna have to talk to Antone about that. That's gonna
be fun. That's that's a medical show. I want to
see skills, nurse skills, nurse skills. Okay, So speaking of
(32:51):
like new characters and side characters, we got a whopper
this episode. Rachel was introduced last week but didn't really
have a lot to do. She was just kind of
like a seed that was being planted. We got the
full Rachel this episode. Oh, it was glorious her. Yeah,
(33:12):
I did, um didn't. I didn't love the way that
clearly she was being treated by by the her bosses.
I don't know what are we saying by the writers. Yeah,
I mean I think we can look at this episode
because there's you and I noticed a couple of questionable
things in this episode. We have to look at this
episode the lens of two thousand five, right, yeah, and
(33:36):
and through the lens of a lot of men in
positions of power, and when you're doing your you're I
don't know, checking you know the boxes? Is this okay?
Is this green light? Is this okay? Is this green light? There?
Clearly wasn't a woman here that was like, you know
what the fat jokes are bad, especially because you're directing
(33:58):
them at a girl who's a size too size zero. Yeah,
for sure, it's absurd, But then it plants the seed
in every girl's head at home. If I'm Sophia size
or bigger, I'm shubby. Now. It was so wildly irresponsible
and off and so off and so irresponsible. Boys thought
(34:19):
it was funny, man, They were like, this is how
girls talk to each other. Well that and the punching
and slapping, and I mean it was just so so silly.
It's also it's not at all. Have you been in
a fight. I've been. No, I've only been close to
a fight when I was in like the fifth grade.
(34:41):
Did I ever tell you about this? No? I want
to hear it. In the fifth grade, and there was
this girl. There was this girl named Amanda. I don't
know where last name was, but she she was she
was a big, tall girl, and she was kind of
mean and grouchy and she just didn't like me. She
picked on me all all the time. And I used
(35:02):
to wear hats to school, a little bowler hat and
like cute hats with like a sunflower on it. Like
I feel like completely, I feel like maybe I've told
this story before and I can't remember. No, I don't
know anyway a man and I used to like bracelets
and anyway, So Amanda walks up to me in the
(35:24):
hallway one day. I have no idea why she was
mad at me, but true to exactly what you said, Hilary,
we were watching the episode and you said girls don't
punch each other, they pull hair, And this is what
she did. She walks up to me in the hallway
and grabs my hair and yanks my head back. So
I'm forced to stare kind of up at her, and
(35:45):
she's like yelling at me about something in my face
and you know, kind of throws my head back and
lets me go. And oh no, that I hit her
in the face and then she let me go. That's
what it was, I coming back. Yeah, yeah, I did.
So I reached up. She was a hold of my friend.
That was the only I could get it. Let her
to get go. But it wasn't like a full it
(36:06):
wasn't like a Dynasty slap or a Dallas slap. It's
just like popum like it's just a pop like get
off of me, you know. And then she did. And
then later we went out there was later on in
the day and she was like I'm gonna fight you,
blah blah bah and up in my face. And I
just was like, oh fine, I would rather get hit
and get in trouble and fight this girl then continue
(36:29):
on with this bullying day after day. So I took
off my hat, I handed to my friend, I pushed
up my sleeves, took all my bracelets off and my
necklaces and I put them all on the hat. And
I was like, okay, let's go. And I was fully ready,
fully ready to get hit and to hit her back.
And I was like in and then she just looked
looked up and down at me and was like whatever
and then walked away. And then she never bothered me again.
(36:51):
So let that be a lesson to you, I guess
be willing to fight. I don't know, yeah, yeah, I
mean I've been in a I've been on a couple
of scraps, not that I'm especially not as like a mother.
I'm like, if my kid came home I was like
I was in a fight, I would be like, what
what what I've got? The meanwhile, you know, it's like
a kid that grew up in the eighties and nineties.
(37:11):
I'm like, oh yeah all the time. Um wait, what
tell me what were the circumstances. You can be as
specific as you want or non specific, but how do
how does I don't know a lot of girls that
have gotten in fights. I mean, how does that happen?
I was attacked by a boy in elementary school. I
was to actually I got like beat by a boy.
Um what happened? You know? I think he had some
(37:35):
problems and I just became a target. Um. And he
would scream in my ear and so he would just
screech in my ear, kind of like in Dumb and Dumber.
That sounds like you want to hear the most annoyance
sound in the world. He was just screech. So I
elbowed him one day and I was like, don't scream
in my ear. And then he decided to follow me
(37:57):
home and beat me on like the walk home with
like a mailbox. And I mean it was really bad.
Um wait, how did he get he did? He pluck
it out of the ground, was lying on its side.
It was it was joy. It was insane, but it
also made me. You know, once you get over that
hump of being afraid of something like that you know
(38:20):
once you're once you have a mailbox thrown atche, who cares? Um?
And so did your brothers kicks? No, my brothers were
like in third grade, they were little no no. But
then like in high school, there were a couple of
confrontations like I've been shoved by a boy in high
school in front of the whole tenth grade and like
(38:40):
a lot of mail aggression. Um. They were like fights
that would come rolling down the hallway and I would
somehow get tangled up in them, and you know, just
like it's like sounds like the pep rally rooms. Why
are we on top of each other? It's like a
tumbleweed coming down senior Court and you're just like, I
don't know, there's arms and legs everywhere and so um.
(39:02):
I think the most accurate fight that we had in
the show was with me and Nikki where we're just
pulling each other's hair because that's what you do, you
pull hair. You remember Nan, I'm not going to say
his name, but I had a guy grabbed me at
a party and I need him in the balls and
it was like I remember thinking in the moment, I
(39:22):
was like, this is like something out of a movie.
He was on a football team. He knows who he is. Um, yeah,
it was just a lot. I mean, I didn't really
think about it. A lot a lot of male aggression
growing up as a as like a chick. But yeah,
I had a kid. I had a boy shoved me
up against a chain link fence with a baseball bat
up against my and we both got suspended. How did
(39:46):
you get suspended because I was involved? Cool story? You
know what I mean? Like, just right off? It takes
me so mad. I Um. I thankfully have a very
passive sweet son who anytime someone's an aggressler with him,
(40:07):
he's always like, I think they have a bad home life.
And I'm like, yeah, probably, you know, but that's good.
Good on you and Jeff as parents for teaching him that,
because not every kid understands that. No, sometimes you just
want to you know about somebody. Um, I like that
in our tumble weed fight in this pep rally, none
of the boys hit us cheerleaders. We were just kind
(40:29):
of quarantine, two separate piles. Who were you fighting? Were
you fighting anyone? I don't remember this. I think I
was trying to pull people off of each other. That
seems like the most Haley thing to do, but I
couldn't spot me in the pile. Yeah. I remember tom
Wright being like, you're like big and like blonde, and
(40:50):
you look like big bird over here because you're just
kind of like hovering, So I need you to do something.
Can you fight the mascot? And I was like, I
would love to fight the mouse because I just know,
well Brooke in um, Brooke and Rachel fighting, and like
Peyton would naturally be like pulling Rachel off of Brook
(41:12):
and like like yes, siding with Brooke and they're like, well,
we can't have you do that. Um, we need you
distracted over here, go jump on top of this bird. Okay,
Peyton then the bird fighting. But I feel like there's
a T shirt in there somewhere, probably one can hope. Um, okay.
(41:33):
So the introduction of Rachel, if you're Brooke, do you
hate her right away? Like like, what do you think
is behind that besides just the really kind of surface. Yeah.
We got to ask Sophia about this next time, because
she did start it. Brooke started it. I mean, Rachel
(41:55):
just walked in and she was super nice, like, hey, sorry,
I'm late. Is this still where we're at and Brooke
just didn't like her because of the night before at
the masquerade party, because she was dancing with Lucas and
Rachel even said, sorry, was that your boyfriend? I mean
it was a little bit she was like a little
sly about it, but she did say like, oh sorry.
She asked at the party too, she was like, are
(42:15):
you a couple? And Brooks says no, And then she
asks again is that your boyfriend? And Brooks like no,
I don't know how many times you have to ask
a chick if that's your boyfriend before you like, I'm
the new girl. I'm gonna kiss whoever I want. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,
I agree. I don't. I don't. I don't know Brooks
started it. So I'm kind of like, I think I
(42:38):
don't like that Rachel's enjoying getting getting under brook skin.
I mean that's annoying, but uh no, I think it's
just that now that's kind of what people. I guess
that's a high school thing to do, right. You just
think that you're going to play this game with a
boy and you're gonna test him, and oh yeah, let's
talk about her whole test with him too, because this
(43:00):
is what feels weird to me, But I don't know,
are doing the same thing. They're both being weirdo dictators
and they're both testing their person And I'm just like,
whoever was writing Nathan was also writing brook They were
just like, we're gonna make them do the same things. Yeah,
that's it. Nathan's test seems a little more reasonable to
(43:22):
me than Brooks. Brooks feels like a bait and switch. Yeah.
It also just kind of seems like, look, do you
love him or not? Why? Why are you Why are
you pushing him away intentionally to see you know, like
you said, there's eight million people you're gonna find attractive
in the world. Who's your choice? And Lucas kept telling
(43:44):
her you're my choice. I want to be with you.
She's like, no, go see if there's other people you're attractive.
If the person you have to kiss a person, she
gives him really the best? Am I really the best?
And I don't know, I don't think that's fair. I mean,
I like the storyline because it is very high school.
That's the kind of stuff you rationalize as a teenager.
(44:07):
And I can look back on my journals and be like,
oh god, you're so irritating it makes for great storytelling.
I love watching it. It's so fun. But don't do
that now. No. I mean I I'm so team Brooke
in most things, but in this I'm just like baby yeah.
(44:30):
And he's still even on the date. It's like you
read his body language like in no way is he
draped all over this girl, Like he's not doing anything.
I don't want to do this. Please don't touched this
hot redhead. I don't want it. It's so all for Brooke,
and you know what, it's actually a good example of
(44:50):
how men and women miss each other a lot. You know,
he's doing all this for Brook because he thinks that
this is what she wants, and what she wants is
the exact opposite of what she's saying. And for her,
she's saying, you should have you should have been able
to read my mind. But it's different than her maybe
(45:11):
body language or her the way that she's kind of
acting being drawn out through a relationship, versus her specifically
saying this is what I want, but then having it
be actually the opposite. That's very She's so clear about
what the rules are. She's so clear. I think she
(45:32):
just wanted him to go out with someone who she
felt was less than her, like less magnetic, less attractive, less,
you know, somebody who wasn't a threat. And this Rachel
girl shows up and is season one Brook. Yeah, she's
in the backseat of the car. She's down to get
frisky whenever, she's doing sexy time dances. She's got every
(45:55):
she's a popular girl. The cheerleaders are loving her. She's
getting along with every buddy. Oh yeah, that's what she says.
My entire squad has a crush on her. By the way,
we did we all did you know who I love
seeing more of in this episode two is Bevin. I
know she didn't have a lot of lines, but she
(46:16):
really we really got to get to know her and
her get more familiar with her face and just see
her more. I loved that. Well. I think they saw
how valuable it was to have the Tim character on
the boy's side, to have not everyone's the leader of
the group, not everyone's the alpha of the group, and
so to have those kind of wingman it gives your
lead characters places to go and realistic communities, and so
(46:41):
having the female counterpart. When the show ended, did Tim
and Bevan end up together? Oh? My gosh, I think
they did. That's like perfect. Wait, wasn't it skills Skills
dated Skills dated her? In season three, I think they're
about to get together. Oh yeah, but but yeah, I
(47:02):
feel like Tim and Bevan are the same person. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I like it. That's good. The dance that Danielle had
to do. Here's what I'm gonna say. I think part
of the reason Danielle was so well respected and so
well liked is that she came in and this was
a hot show. Everybody wanted this part. Danielle came in
(47:23):
and had to do this kind of humiliating dance, and
she had to do it over and over and over again.
And she came in with so much grace, and she
didn't pretend like she wasn't like, oh my god, I
hate this, you know, like, she didn't pretend like she
wasn't there to do a job. She showed up, she
did her job, She communicated with everyone, she was so
(47:45):
hyper professional, like it blew my mind. And and so
I like that. Peyton immediately is like, I don't know,
I like her because that's how I felt like that's
in real life. I was like, this girl's have to
do the most ridiculous I've ever seen on our show. Yeah,
and she's just not making it weird for anyone, you know,
(48:09):
She's just I'm here, let's do it now. She was
great and then two g got introduced to this episode.
Oh my gosh, we have to talk about Kelsey. We
can't end this episode without talking about Kelsey. I love her.
She and I stayed in touch a bit. Um we
ran into each other I don't know, like five years
after the show was over, and then have stayed in
(48:31):
touch ever since. And um, she's just such a cool girl.
She's on Yellowstone now playing Um, I can't remember the
name of her character. She's Kevin Costner's daughter in law. Yeah, yeah,
that's right. But also she's like like a perfect tin.
And Jeff starts watching this show, I'm like, I know her,
and He's like, you don't know her, Hillary, you know everybody,
And I'm like, no, she was a child on One
(48:52):
Tree Hill. I know her. Yeah, Like I literally know her.
She was, But I guess I thought she was like
sixteen when she did our because in order to work
the hours we worked. But now that I'm doing the math,
I'm like, I think she was fourteen, she was little. Yeah,
and I think she told me that too, You know,
I don't, you know, I have a terrible memory, but
I'm pretty sure she told me that. Yeah. But she
(49:15):
is so it's insane how beautiful she is. That's one
of those faces that and she talks like this. She's
just got a really sweet, like soft southern voice. Ah,
she's so enchanting. I hope we get to have the
right word for her, enchant She is enchanting. Yeah, I
would love to know what her experience was as like
a real high school kid working on our pretend high
(49:38):
school set, you know, because she was only supposed to
be in a couple of episodes. And I think she
stuck around for a while, Yes she did. She did.
That must have been so weird for her, Like, you
guys are doing it wrong. We don't use that slang anymore,
your big weirdos um is that? Dear kids say that
(49:58):
to you now, because Marie I says it to me
all the time. She's like, mom, nobody says killer anymore.
Nobody says trainers. I was, like, I said, sent a text.
She's reading over my shoulder, Like I said, are you
avail to somebody and she's like a veil mom. It's
like Karen, who um god. Yeah. Now my son gets
(50:20):
humiliated when I play music for his friends because I'll
try to be cool and like put jay z on
in the car and he's like, Mommy, stop stop, stop
stop stop. This is an US thing that we do
without my friends around. Um, all right, what else have
we missed? I don't like. I don't like all the
chubby talk. That really made me mad. I'm looking at
(50:41):
my notes and the things that I put big exclamation
marks next to me too, And that was a go
to joke from then on side the way, not just
for but for me as well. They just kept they
really kept it up. They liked using that. I don't
so Erry, No, I don't know. There's just so many
other things that you insult someone about, like fake insults. Fine,
(51:04):
you know what making fun of somebody's being like, oh
you're dumb. You know that you can find smart ways
of calling something. Your clothes are tacky, you know that's
a changeable thing. I don't know. Yeah, your hair, your
hair color or whatever, hairstyle. You know, she used to poke.
Brooke used to poke fun all the time at Haley's hair.
It was cute, It's funny. Yeah, well this is also
I feel like season three is the season where things
(51:26):
went off the rails behind the scenes and so you
can start to see more of it work its way
into the stuff in front of the camera. Um. So
I'm gonna try my best not to be like triggered
by it, um because I really enjoy season Yeah. I
mean season three I love so much. And I think
that the people who joined our cast season three were
(51:48):
really strong and we had fun and it was like
our show. People were watching it. We didn't know that
season one or two, but by season three we were like,
what's up now, bitches. Yeah, it's like now when they're
telling us we're on the bubble, like we don't know
if you're picking your up last you next year? You know? Okay, No,
good story, guys, Emily asks, can anyone recite any of
(52:18):
the basketball, cheers or dance routines performed on the show. No,
but I did remember doing that one move, the arm
pump that was part of the arm pump that was
part of this routine here that was kind of funny.
I would use real cheers from high school, so we
would have to do just like filler stuff because they
would do all the boys basketball sequences, right yeah, and
(52:40):
we we wouldn't be on camera, but then they would
just need to get us cheering on the sidelines and
doing reaction shots. So I try to remember, like what
our easiest cheers were from high school, and it was
always like you go, Patriots go like but then we
change it to yeah, we just I love that you
so utah, real cheers from your high school to the
(53:01):
other cheerleaders, I mean, and most of the cheerleaders. If
you grew up doing cheerleading on the East Coast, chances
are you went to like an n c A cheerleading camp.
There were a couple of camps, and so we all
knew the same cheers up and down the East Coast.
So especially because I was from Virginia and like Bevan
and the rest of the girls were from North Carolina,
(53:23):
we all kind of knew the same things from camp um.
So yeah, we all Even in this episode where they
were playing the jock jams, I couldn't do the arm motions.
I know, years old, still doing the arm moves when
(53:43):
I hear a jock jam. That's just how it's gonna go, oh,
it's been a wheel hey, most likely to have lied
the most on their driver's license information? Okay, um, I
(54:10):
mean who's got the biggest ego on the show, Dan, Yeah,
Dan's like, I definitely weigh one seventy. I am six four.
You know, Paul is six four. He's definitely giving like
all his high school stats and probably like in definitely
(54:34):
not an organ donor. No, no, okay, yes, Dan is
most likely to lie for sure. Who do we think
fibbs in real life? Are we allowed to say? I mean,
it's most likely to five in a driver's license in
real life. Well, I'm gonna say Kelsey because I think
she lied to us about how old she was on
(54:56):
the show. She's like, she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you
guys am totally sixty years old. And meanwhile she's like,
you know, in middle school, she was definitely a little tiny. Alright, Kesey,
we love you guys. Come back and join us for
next week's episode. Hillary tell them all about it. Oh
my gosh. Next week it is episode or season three,
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