Jana Kramer Pours the 'Whiskey' • EP 819

It's the OTH scene that hit all the right notes! Jana Kramer joins Sophia and Rob to relive the moment she sang 'Whiskey' on national television.Hear how quickly that performance launched her career in Country Music, and the confession she makes about shooting that scene. 

Plus, Rob calls out the cringiest moment of the episode, while Sophia remembers thinking the show wouldn't be back for season 9! And, What would an OTH character group chat look like today? Sophia, Rob, and Jana dial in their thoughts on this.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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that high school drama Girl Drama, Girl, all about.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Them high school queens.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
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sharing for the right teams.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
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could sit with us.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
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Drama Queens.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Hey, everybody, welcome back for another episode of Drama Queens.
I am here with soup and a very special guest.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
We need a trumpet. What's up there?

Speaker 4 (00:37):
She is?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I was like, don't you say Jam? Don't do it?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Are?

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Do people call you Jan?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
No?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
What? But my one girlfriend in high school, she always
wanted to abbreviate names like Lisa was Lise ash rach like,
and she'd be like Jan. I'm like, no, no, Like
it's it's Janna. Like I'm not a Jam. No offense
to any Jans out there, but.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
No shots fired, Jan Brady.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
That's what I was going to say. I feel like
Jan is a particularly tricky one because of the lore
of the Brady bunch.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
There's that and it just is not. I just don't
is this some names are not abbreviated. Yeah, like Alex,
I don't want to be an owl. She's not an owl? No, yeah,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Also, is Janet one of those names that just sort
of stopped forty years ago? Because literally it's jan Brady
and then Janet Reno, Like I don't know Jackson, oh
Jane jack well again though, hasn't happened. I mean she's
a long time she's older. Anyways, fun names, all right,
So Jane is also what a lazy friend?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
It's one more letter, it's one silly lady. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
How busy is your day that you can't just muster
up the strength to hit that last vowel? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Ah, it makes me wonder what your friend would have
called Ian, because we've got Ian Kellerman.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I'm like, is he just i ii? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Terrible?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Anyways, Hi guys, Hi, are you doing so good? So forties? Though?
I just got back from a surgery center and he
just shot up a put a needle in my back
and put light a cane to see if I'm a
candidate for a candidate for an ablasion for my back.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Yeah, Oh my god's fun.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
You know, It's like once you hit forty it's just
you just everything just really goes.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, you sneeze, you throw at your back, you laugh,
your knee starts hurting.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
And having a baby in forties like that was I
put the baby down wrong and I pulled my back
out and that's where it started.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
But to be fair, also though it's not you can't
compare moms to anyone else because when you grow another
human being inside of you, it's like your organs get
pushed around, your bones shift, Like what you go through
is insane. So like the rest of us, it's just
normal wear and tear. But like what you've done three times, yeah, yeah,

(03:01):
I mean that's your body's incredible. I think, like that's
it's amazing to.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Me that all bodies are crazy. But I think it
is sweet for husbands, you know, like yourself, Rob, you're
saying this because I just got back from a movie
a week ago and my husband goes, I now have
so much appreciation for what you do, and I realize
I need to do more, and I'm like, that's awesome.
Thanks for the you know, because I think you know, moms,
moms need to feel that, yeah, to know that we're

(03:29):
doing so much.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
You know, I think It's interesting too, because women do
so much labor that somehow seems invisible. Yes, because we're
good at juggling so many things.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
And not saying all the things too, you know, just
doing it.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I think it's really interesting when someone steps into
whatever your labor is with your family and that and
the house and organizing and the scheduling and and they're like, oh,
this is this is like three full time jobs.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, and you make it look easy. Wow, it was fun.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Hats off? Where did you shoot your movie?

Speaker 3 (04:05):
I was in Lexington, Kentucky and it was so great.
I love I loved it so much fun. It was
with a Haley Duff directed and she's awesome, so fun,
she's free time. I love her, Love you love heuys. Yeah,
so it's fun, a little like a romance horse movie,
you know. Oh what a dream?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Sign me up?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
So cuty, Well, girlfriend, do you want to read our
synopsis and tell the fans what episode we're watching today?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (04:34):
So?

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Y'all around. Season eight, episode nineteen, where Not to Look
for Freedom? Air date was back in April twenty six,
twenty eleven. Whoa Oh, While Hailey stays at home to
take care of the new baby, Quinn organizes a concert
at Trick. Meanwhile, Brooke gets an offer to return to
close Over Bros. And Nathan sets his sights on exposing

(04:56):
Professor Kellerman.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Dun Don don Does he ever?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Does he ever?

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Thoughts? What are we thinking?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Guys?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
What did you think of this episode?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I liked it. I mean I loved it just because
it was something I got to put two worlds together.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, you got to debut your music.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
That was fun.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
How did that whole thing come about? Like did you record?
Because I can't remember, which is insane considering we were
living together at the time, but like you were, you
were recording songs for the album, I believe. And then
did they get to pick what song they wanted you
to perform or did your record label pick the song? Like?
How did how did it shake out?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I had just sent them songs that would that we
you know, what would be good for the show, and
there was Whiskey I Won't give Up. And so those
were the ones that they, you know, they wanted for
the show, that thought that would go with the synopsis
of the show. There was another up tempo one that

(06:01):
the director loved, but it didn't go with at all.
The mood of the show. Yeah, like it was his
favorite one. It was really fun. Oh, but never it
didn't work for the show.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, because it's so interesting on our show how the
song it's your performance, but then the song also becomes
the montage for everyone else's storyline, So it has to
do both. It's like the song almost has to be a.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Character, right, Yeah, it has to flow through it makes sense,
which I think they did always a really good job on.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah. I also liked that they brought back your how
do I say this? I like that they brought back
Alex's thing about making someone else take the shot and
taking the line, because playing that with you and Chase
and you having them a boy with a booze chaser, like,

(06:57):
it brought back this adorable thing that you to do
that also talks about how your character's growing. And then
we go right into I should have just called him whiskey,
and it's like it was just perfect for the relationship
between you and Steven as well.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, for sure, Jenna, remind me or tell me, because
the show did this odd thing where typically when someone
who has musical ability comes on, it's like an immediate
thing that you like. At most I think like Grubs,
we waited three episodes or something. Meanwhile, You're you've been
on for an entire season. So when they cast you.

(07:38):
When they cast the role, were they looking for someone
with musical ability or did they just hire you and
then realize they got totally lucky.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
No, it was one of those things where I mean
not at all, there was zero anything about music for Alex.
But when I was since we were so close to Nashville,
I had when I was working on Friday Night Lights
and the writers strike happened, I flew to Nashville and
started writing with people and trying to get into that world.

(08:08):
So being so close to Nashville to Wilmington, I started
to do some more rights on some of the you know,
the weekends off for days off. And then knowing that
our how do I say, I mean, knowing that our
the person that created the show was so musical, I
wanted to have his ear on, Hey, this is kind

(08:31):
of what I've been doing. Let me know, you know
your thoughts on it. And that is when I read
in the script that it was going to turn musical.
So that was all news to me. It was great
though I was happy about it.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
This is one of the few instances where emotional vamporism
on our show actually was beneficial. Yes, where stuff was
lifted from the personal life without asking, But in this
case it was great because it show it got to
showcase your musical ability.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, I mean, so the only way I was able
ever to even get a record deal, Like I know that,
you know, like there's no doubt if that didn't happen,
I would have never gotten a record deal. So wow,
it's so cool.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
It is so cool, man, And you know what, it's nice.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean, it's exactly what you're saying. Rob. There were
instances behind the scenes of that stuff that weren't great
for people, and it's I don't know, not to discount
any of that, but just to say it's really refreshing
to get a silver lining. It's like really nice to go,
oh yeah, it was done not well. And then in

(09:37):
this case, because you know, you very smartly knew like, oh,
these people, regardless of you know whatever, have great working
taste in good music, and then it turned into a
whole thing on the show. It's like, I love that
for you, and it was fun to watch because I
remember how excited you were at the time, like to

(10:01):
see the joy on your face. That's so obvious, Like
you are such a talented musician and for you to
get to do this thing that you love is like,
what a cool thing. It's like that's that's why when
fans are always like are we still allowed to love
the show, I'm like, there's so much about the show
you should love and like this is exactly it.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, in singing Whiskey at Trick was actually the first
time I ever I know it wasn't performed live, but
that was the first time I've ever really performed on
a stage in front of people, So like that was
like minus when I was like six set of freaking
pageant for the Romeo Peach Blossom and I Sink Twinkle
Twinkle Little Star in a rock version, like that is

(10:44):
the like that truly is the only.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Right, thank you, big deal.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
We're all good. But I mean when I watch it back,
I'm so uncomfortable watching it because I'm like, I know,
that was my first time ever doing that and trying
to like sing with the band behind me, like it's
so awkward, but also like that was the first time.
So the fact that it happened like that on the show.
It was. It was cool.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Also, it's a testament to your a your business acumen
that you were smart enough to realize, like I have
this thing I'm trying to cultivate would probably be a
smart move to just plant a seed and the and
the you know, the top boss. And also to I
think the like the courage it takes to like put

(11:33):
yourself to go out of your comfort zone to try
something new and be prepared potentially to fail, you know,
because it's like you can't grow and you won't know
unless you give it a shot. And in this case,
like dude, most people's first show is at like an
open mic and a cafe in front of three friends
and two strangers. Yours was on national television for the
world to see. That's brave.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's cool.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
How much rehearsal time did you get because to your point,
you know, you'd been in the studio. Obviously they take
your perfect recording of the song that's gonna air on
the radio.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
But that wasn't even that recording of whiskey was a
demo recording that was yeah, so nothing was even what
they put out there. That was an all demo, Like
we had to kind of record that for the album.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Oh my gosh, I didn't realize that because in my
brain I'm like, well, yeah, nobody performs live on the show.
You can't. You have to shoot it over and over again.
Everything has to match perfectly. But like, because you hadn't
performed in front of people and you were used to
just being in the studio, did you get a bunch
of rehearsal time to choreograph it or were they just like,

(12:52):
get up there, let's shoot the scene.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, we didn't have any That's why again I'm like,
I've never done this, this is new, but you know,
you act right, And I think that's the part. Even
when I go or what. I don't tour anymore, but
when I did, it was it was the entertainer was
always like the actor's part of me is that you

(13:15):
had to step outside of because I'm not this like
lah like bro, Like I could never do theater because
it's not I have a hard time being big in
those areas, especially now, Like as I get older, I
get more introverted and less free. I guess I don't
not free, but I'm a little more guarded the older
I get. So yeah, being on stage, it's like you

(13:36):
have to act and be the entertainer. But still was
uncomfortable because I was like this is me. It's like, yes,
this is Alex, but I'm like, this is me, and
that piece of vulnerability was was go goodness.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Well, And also, I mean, you had never done it,
so it's like, you know, when you've never done something,
you don't know what to ask for and what's normal.
So you're just like, I'm going to take your word
for it that this is how it's supposed.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
To go, right, And it's like you've got people that
are actually good at what you know, Joy and Kate
Vogel and Grubs like all those guys those are they've
done that for years, and so a piece of me
didn't feel I mean, I wasn't confident in at all.
So it was nice to see when you guys were

(14:18):
out there and like you know, seeing Chantelle and going
like like okay, Like at least I have people that
I know, Like I remember writing in the apartment, you know,
you and Austin. It's like I had my writing partner
guy over and we're sitting there, you know, creating songs.
So it's like you kind of saw the behind the stage.
So then to have the the support felt nice in
that moment.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah. Well, and to be so far in like you know,
you had actors that are you're scene partners there blass,
and our crew like yeah, I remember coming into work
the next day and people being you know, Peter Kowalski
being like, ye shut a saner.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
He was great, you know, like stuff like that, which
is just you know, like like you had all those
guys you don't see them on camera, but like all
the camera crew and everybody there for you, and it's
like that, that's so sweet.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I'm glad you had people you'd known who supported you
for so long, like in the moment, because can you
imagine like if that had been your first episode, I
would have like crawled in a hole for you.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, one thousand percent.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Okay, Can I ask you like a technical question about
the singing and like touring side. I know now like
I see people talk about their choreographers or their movement
coaches or whatever, like before you went on your first tour,
is that a kind of support a record label gives you.
Did you work with someone to learn how to feel

(15:46):
comfortable on a stage or do you just get more
comfortable with every show.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
So we had a choreographer for the very beginning because
I did not know what to do, and they just
kind of teach you how to go. Okay at this
part of the song, the band guy come with you.
Then you guys all walk down and so then so
you at least have a structure of what it looks
like and then you know, now it's like now I'm
like or whenever I did, you know, go on stage

(16:12):
like I'm crazy, I'm all over the place, and it's
fun because I'm just I'm more comfortable with it now.
But yeah, to have that choreography is is so nice
because there's a piece of you that goes, okay, I
know that I'm doing this and he's meeting me here
and we're going to like, you know, jam out and
have a little step here. So is that that piece
was fun?

Speaker 2 (16:31):
It's like blocking a scene.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, that's really cool. It was fun and I missed touring,
but you know it was a it was an era
when the.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Babies are bigger. Will you do it again?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
No? Enjoy This is the thing. I My favorite time
performing now is at Trick when we do those conventions,
Like I had so much fun at the last convention
that I sang at because any show I ever played anyways,
the One Tree Hill fans were always the loudest. So
to always to come back to the place that it started,

(17:03):
I have so much fun, and there's so much joy,
and there's so much love in that room that that's
I'm good with just doing those.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
I remember all of us shooting a scene and we
were it was between setups, and like, I don't remember
what episode, I remember the location, but I just have
this very vivid memory of you were laying on like
a picnic table, Jana on your cell phone and you
were you had just got the news that like your
single was number one or something, and you were squealing

(17:32):
with the light and we were all so happy for you.
But it's crazy because I didn't realize though, that like
this show was the launching pat. I just assumed that
this was like something like everyone else on the show
that like you'd been doing for ages. But how cool
to know that like it was all happening in real time.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, I was doing I had I had showcases around
town and I got passed by every label, every single one.
And it was when I was on the show, and
so that was hard right, so got past and then
when I won't give up streamed on iTunes and went
to number one is when I got my record deal.

(18:09):
Warner's like, actually, wait.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Isn't that just entertainment in a nutshell? The entertainment industry
like it's the least creative bunch, Like they don't believe
in something until you've shown them otherwise there's like zero vision.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, So I mean that's why I'm like, I literally
owe One Tree Hill for the fans, for all of
it if they did not stream, if the show. If
I wasn't on the show, I know I wouldn't got
a record deal, and I didn't have it in me
enough to have it be the thing, because I obviously
I love acting and the music is also fun, but
it's not the thing that I would live and breathe
and die for, you know, like people that are just

(18:47):
like fighting, fighting, fighting tooth and nail every day. I'm like, ah,
I would have it just wasn't my full passion. So
that's why I'm always so grateful speaking of.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Your love of acting. I got to tell you, so
I never went back and watched the show, like I
was very happy to leave it in the past. Until
starting this podcast, and so there's just a lot, so
much of it is new to me, Like I remember
broad Stroke stuff, but the rest of it, I'm just
like a first time viewer. But I got to say,
watching you in this role, you are so damn good,

(19:19):
and maybe just because we had so little, like you
licked my face in season seven and like that was
it for the show, you know, because like I just
didn't realize how hard you were crushing this role and
also what an extremely tricky role they gave you, because
like Alex on paper is the most manic character ever
where it's like I love you, I want to kill myself.

(19:40):
We're best friends. What's happening? You know, like it's nothing
but peaks and valleys and you you were like teflon
that like you somehow just say I say this about
you and Austin. You both got handed stuff that I
think in the hands of for almost any other actor
would have been real, unlikable and hard to watch, and

(20:01):
you guys, somehow managed to get through it and still
be charming. So kudos you really, you really crushed the
role and you did a tremendous service to the show.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Thank you. I really appreciate that. That was so sweet
of you to say. I mean, obviously, you guys are incredible,
and you guys did amazing in you know, your parts
and everything. That's really sweet.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Did you enjoy it?

Speaker 3 (20:25):
The show?

Speaker 4 (20:25):
The role?

Speaker 3 (20:26):
I love her, and I was so scared of her
in the beginning because and I told because I did
an audition for her. I auditioned for Chantelle's part.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Oh that's right.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
So when I went to producers, they were all in
the room and he was the creator, was like, you,
I want you to read for Alex. And I read
the breakdown. I was like, oh, no, new, new, new,
Like that's not me, like I it's she's the knocohol,
is all these things drug. I've I don't know how

(21:01):
to relate to that. I've never been drunk before, I've
not like, I don't know how to relate to this
at all. And so then but then I just read
for it, and yeah, I ended up getting it. So
it was, but it was so I was scared of it,
scared of her at first, and then again reading her,
I'm like, she's so unlikable and she's but that was

(21:23):
the piece where I'm like, I have to find I
have to find her in me and then bring a
little me in her. So the moment that you know,
when we do the yeah, I always talk about the scene,
but when I said, I'm you know, I'm so quite,
so quiet in here, and it's like there were so
many pieces of me that I brought my own stuff
into her, and then she brought and the fun and

(21:45):
so I just I miss I'm miss playing her. I
wish I wish I could play her again because she
was fun.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
She's the most fun and it's really interesting. I mean,
we talked a little bit about this, but you know,
you were saying before we started recording Rob that you
were out when Jana last came on. But it's like
it's not lost on me the parallel journey that we
got to take with our characters, because that's exactly how
I felt in season one with Brooke. I was like,

(22:11):
who is this person? And why does she behave this way?
And this is so kuckoo bananas, and like I don't
know anything about boys or high school. I went to
an all girls' school with fifty five girls in my
graduating class. Like I don't know anything about this world,
and I think there's something when I look at it
in hindsight, that's so special about figuring out how to

(22:39):
essentially emotionally care for someone that you do not relate
to and who when you first read their stuff maybe
you don't even like. And I think there's actually, like
it's dawning on me in this moment as you're saying it.
I think there's a magic in that, because I think
it makes you bring more of yourself to a character
in a way in the moments that are una expected.

(23:01):
And then I know we both had fun that we'd
never had in our real lives playing these women because
they were like the nuts.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Right, that's why we want to play. I'm like, man,
I got to loosen up and like have fun and silly.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Well, and it requires you to flex your empathy, right,
because the easy thing to do when you read Alex
is you judge.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
The shi that character, yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Like all right, and then you make lazy choices that
are going to make her very unlikable.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
The challenge is just trying to steal someone's love and yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Okay, that's easy. You can do that in your sleep,
you know. But the challenge is, like I said, to
be empathetic and to find likable things in her and
then make it challenging for the audience to to just
decide if they like her or hate her, you know,
because it's like the best characters, right, that's what it is.
It's like they muddy the waters. So that's not all
one thing. They're not all great. It's like, yeah, the
flawed hero, but the like redeeming villain, you know, yeah,

(23:52):
which she had lots of. I mean, that's all. Like
I said, dude, every it was whiplash watching you and
season seven because it's like, dude, what is happening? I
was like, they had two separate writers writing the character,
but they weren't allowed to communicate about what they're writing
in each episode.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
What.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Oh no, I'm like that.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Because it's like, oh, this scene she's totally grounded and
likable and she's awesome. It's like and then the next
scene she's a psychopath. Yes, I still can't believe that
you were almost Quinn. I didn't even realize this.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, it's so crazy. I know, Oh I could have
been you and I dude, oh like crushed that part.
It makes sense now, like looking back, it all makes sense.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah. Yeah, Well that's the thing. Everybody wound up in
exactly the place they were supposed to. It's definitely that
thing where you go, oh yeah, the casting process works
really well, and I think especially back then, because to
your point, we were all doing all this stuff in person.
People could get a sense of your energy and pivot,

(24:58):
like tapes are so stupid and horrible to be in
the room is where the magic happens.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, I'm not great at its self. Tapes. I'm terrible
at them, and it's I'll take direction, that's the thing,
and you'll get to know my personality and the vibe.
And that's where I've always said I win in a room,
but I do not win on tape. It's really hard
for me.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Same dude, I loved a room like especially if you're
doing anything like comedy. Oh gosh, dude, tried doing comedy
to a zoom full of black squares with their mics
turned off. It's like, am I crushing? It's crickets? What's happening?
You know what I mean? Like, uh, I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I also find it so weird that they want us
to do that stuff now, because the whole point is
the thing that happens in the room, like someone does
something unexpected, you have a moment of chemistry. There's an
unscripted laugh, there's like there's a thing where you go
like oh that, yeah, that's that's getting a little sparkly.

(26:02):
And when you're home alone, you know, tape in on
your computer, it's like nothing's happening.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
I've actually had Austin read if you for me, because
it's like I need to have some sort of like
like my husband is amazing at off camera reading, but
to have that already built in connection with someone that
like you've worked with before and you kind of get
each other, it's that helps me a little bit more. Yeah,
but I always hate to like bother people too, for

(26:32):
like a self tape.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Totally this thing I'm currently working on in the casting process,
and I it's it's I love being on the other
side of it, right, Like my one of my very
first action teachers said, if you really want to get
good as an actor, volunteer for a casting session. And
she was right right. And but I will say, like,
having watched these staves, it's very clear that people who
like had a friend call in over the phone who

(26:53):
pre taped the other lines and I got the worst though.
The worst is when it's a very bad reader. It
is so distracting. Yeah, like either they're trying to act
or they're just leaving in these pauses and I'm like,
you are, you are killing this person's tape. But again,
like if we were just in a room, that would
never happen.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's the only thing about twenty twenty that
I just don't didn't didn't love that was all one
of the things.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, let's let's clip that. Let's make that the sound
by if this episode guest perfect.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
But I totally agree with you, Rob, It's like the
thing I enjoyed doing the most now is going in
and reading with everyone who's going to come onto a
project that I'm on. Yes, like my favorite part. You know,
we only did the show for a season because turns
out one of the other things you shouldn't do in
a medical pandemic is launch a new medical show. Old

(27:49):
ones are comfort shows. New ones are fresh hell for
people who are stuck in hospitals. But like, the best
part of that journey was I I read everyone, every
single person the producers wanted to see. I spent like
a week on the CBS lot, just in the room
with people and like I will never forget when Sky

(28:10):
came in. Everyone when she left the room was like
I can't explain what happened, Like you two sparkled together,
Like we just had such great chemistry and the history
and the friendship and the thing like it it just
clicked for us. And she's literally been one of my
best friends ever since. And it's so I never would

(28:31):
have had that experience if I'd been watching her like
on my laptop, being like she seems nice. Who's next?
Like I don't know, and it's I don't know. The
whole thing of it is just so special. I hope
we get back to it, yes.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
But then again, everyone's moved so much, so that's the
only piece too. I'm as much as I don't want
to move back to La But anyways.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
I know that's the hard thing too, right, It's like
it's just shifted.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yeah, I did a chemistry read over zoom and I
don't know what kind of chemistry you're supposed to have
a staring at yourself in a computer screen, but weird times,
my friends, Hey, should we talk about an episode of
this show?

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah? So I actually have a question that I have
never because I know you like fashion, Sophia, but did
you want to have your own store? Was that a
piece of something that you got to control? Or No?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
No, not at all. Okay, I think if our show
had been on five to ten years later, I think
some really smart person would have been like, oh, let's
actually launch you a line while whatever, Like I love it.
The irony I think for me is I'm really drawn
to the art of it and what you can communicate
with it. But I wore a uniform for my whole life.

(29:43):
So actually having to get dressed when I don't have
a fitting or I'm not playing a character and putting
on a costume is very stressful for me. I do
not enjoy it, and so it's weird. It's like I
can put things together. I'm really good at dressing my friends,
but when it comes to me, it's like everything goes blank.
So it was it was fun to play Brooke because

(30:04):
I got to figure out what she looked like for
the listener.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
At home, Sophia is just draped in a bed sheet
wrapped around her. That is what she's wearing right now,
So you imagine, Yeah, it's just you and a beach towel.
Every day is a different just like I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I don't like it. I wear a robe.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
All right, let's let's talk about this app Yeah, I okay, listen.
Can I just get way ahead and ask if either
of you guys were confused by this? There's a very
questionable line, go for it. Ian Kellerman, Nathan, and Clay
are sitting at the bar and Ian toasts and he says,

(30:58):
first off, congrats on the baby, very strong, tell her
to come see me in about seventeen years. And Clay
and Nathan are just kind of like quiet, like, uh,
that's so Ian. What the fuck?

Speaker 3 (31:13):
What the fuck? I don't know how? And there's I've
because I've listened back to you know, some of y'all's
episodes and some of the lines, and I've seen the
clips online. I am just so shocked that because in
that moment, I don't think I would have. I don't know, Like,
it's just like, how is that even being said?

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Also, is there is there a layer joke that that
Ian's an idiot and terrible at math? Why wouldn't you
just say eighteen? Like what? But it's still horrible? But
like to go out of your way and make it
seventeen is like, hey, let's just throw an extra dash
of creepy Peto and the horrible line what.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
It's it's because our creepy boss. Really, and it started
in season three, really wanted to reinforce that the age
of consent, despite it being wildly inappropriate and clearly set
into law by older men, the age of consent in

(32:13):
North Carolina is seventeen.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Stop. Oh this is no, that's even worse.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
It's even worse. Oh no, yeah, it's like a very
on purpose gross just gross.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Thing in that moment though while you were in the scene,
did you no.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Here's the first of all, I have zero recollection of
this scene. But watching this as an adult, I was like,
where where were you, Bud? I mean, to be fair,
I was in my late twenties, so I probably, you know,
like I'm a parent now, it's very very different. But yeah,
I guess it was just maybe we were rushing or what.

(32:56):
But the fact that like, no one I wish, I
wish one of the adults on set would have gone like, hey,
like even just told Nathan, because Nathan's a dad at
this point, like yeah, hey, maybe you should just like
check that even with just a look, because if someone
said that to me in real life, yeah, you know,
it's like there's no way you don't go, like the
fuck is wrong with you?

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
It's not funny, it's creepy, it's inappropriate, it's disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
It's like, yeah, everything about it is really really gross.
I will say, watching you guys do it, I thought
you you it looked to me as a viewer, like
you both made the choice to just go blank, kind
of ignore it and not acknowledge it. Yeah, and not
that that's the right choice, but I it read as

(33:42):
a choice to like, huh huh, we're not we're not
contributing to this conversation to me, because you already have
complaints about his behavior in this episode and in prior episodes.
But yeah, you're right, it would have been nice if
you two had had something.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Well, it worked because of the fact that he's a
new potential cash cow and we're growing business and upstart. However,
we're an agency supposedly built on integrity. Yeah, so it
just would have been nice to have some like even
if Clay was just like dial it down, dialot down. Yeah,
you know, like just just some sort of acknowledgment of

(34:18):
like that was creepy and weird, coolier.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Jets, that's not, that's not, that's not.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
That's one of the loans to keep up top.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, the reality is whether it's someone Clay in Nathan's age,
I don't know, you know what, are we twenty five
by now on the show, or a senior in college.
If a senior in college is trying to hook up
with a with a girls who's still in high school, like,
we have a problem.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, we just have a problem.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
But I also think there was the reality to your point,
like we've been at this with the writer of our
show for so long that I think everyone was starting
to just tune it out because there was kind of
the only way to get through work, right, Like you
had to just kind of go like, Okay, you're gross,
You've been gross for so many years. Okay, well we're

(35:06):
having a nice time at work. The rest of us like,
what are you gonna do? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:12):
True.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
I had one other moment that was almost as cringey,
but actually not at all. It wasn't this is a
playful cringe. So Julian comes back to the spot with
a bag of ice cream, for Brooke, sweet move and
what do you do? He got one of every flavor.
He's my kind of guy. Right, Yeah, here's where he
loses me. He opens one up, he dips his finger

(35:36):
in and then eats off of it, and then dips
his finger back in again and feeds you. Listen, I know,
like your partner, you kiss, you know, you share fluids. Whatever. God,
that sounded so gross, but like, there is just something
so barbaric about get a spoon. Why are you dipping

(35:57):
your finger into ice cream?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
I don't think there's anything sect see about it?

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Thank you. Yeah I didn't either. I thought maybe I
was out of touch.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
No, no, no no. But I'm also like a germophob so
it's the same.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Same.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
By the way, you get home with things from outside,
the first thing you have to do is wash your hands.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, but like my husband is not like he'll be
like at a gas station and then come back and
then it'll be like and I'm like, you wash your hands,
you know what I mean, because it's like, yeah, you
touch on anything, and he's like everywhere.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, I will say, and here's here's a little bit
of the tea. If my memory stores me correctly and
I believe it does. It was scripted for him to
do it to me, and Austin was like, let me
go ahead and go first, so this is less gross

(36:47):
because you know, it's a if he had just come
in and done that and stuck his finger in my
mouth like it's a very phallic gesture. I did obviously
not get to consent to. And I really treasure him
for being like, let's make this cute and funny, and
like he did it first, and then he did it

(37:07):
to me, and we made it really like goofy and awkward,
and I didn't like do the sexy mouth thing. I
was like, ah, like it's melting. Like we made it
as as opposite of what was on the page as possible.
And I do per the references to the you know,
creepy things written for many of us, whether we like

(37:29):
them or not to say or do. I love that
we all by this point had figured out like, write
whatever the fuck you want, we're gonna we're going to
do it a little differently. And I thought that as
much as yes, I would have loved in real time
to have seen him come into the house and wash
his hands and then open the food, I think we
made the best of an uncomfortable situation.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Right, Yeah, that makes sense, and grab a spoon. Just yeah,
just wash your hands or grab a spoon.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
You might as well just open the container and just
lick the ice cream. That's what you're.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Doing in your face.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
By the way, opening the container and licking the ice
cream is less gross than sticking your finger in it, agreed,
because you're sort of using the container as an ice
cream cone.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Again, just grab a spoon. You can just save all
the other stuff.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
That's actually the title of this episode, Grab a spoon,
Grab a spoon.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
There it is. What did you guys think? I was
very confused this episode. When I had heard the name
Fidians for like the thirty second time, I was like, yeah,
did we have like a product endorsement? What is happening?
And then obviously we find out why later. But talk
about Chekhov's gun. I mean we said that name about
thirteen times this episode.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
We sure did. And I will say when I started
to watch it, I'd put it on and then I
ran to grab something and came back in and was like,
wait a second, hold on, because I could tell that
the recap was important, and they they did that long
pause on the insert of that bourbon bottle. I went
and rewound it and started over, and I was like, Ah,

(39:08):
they really want to hammer home who's into it, who
drinks it? That the bourbon is the clue.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Yeah, it would have been great in hindsight if his
drink that we were going to make a meal out
of was like peach schnaps, like this total dude broke.
It would have been amazing if it was just like
white blueberry, white claws or something like really nice. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but gave him whiskey.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
But yeah, whiskey. A What was your favorite part of
the episode.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Well, listen, there's a lot of good. There's a lot
of great in it too. I just had to get
ahead because those ones. I was like, wait, what what? Yeah,
I mean this was another classic example of you and
Sean Tell being total team players with the whole eye
of the tiger. You know, she's had to like, she's
had to do so many it was like they realized

(40:05):
she would be game and she was a team player
and would commit, and she's also very funny. And then
I feel like they just went back to the well
a lot, a lot, a lot and yeah, yeah, and
so it's like it happens in this episode, it happens
in the next episode, and the like, you guys made
it great. I just watched it going like, oh, I know,

(40:25):
I know this feeling of when you get a script
for the next episode and you read it and you're just.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Like, oh, yeah, for sure, okay.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
But your guys' stuff was great. I love I love
the friendship forming between Alex and Quinn.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, it's sweet. It's like you get to see more
of what we saw at Brooke and Julian's wedding with
you too, and it's nice. And it's like I think they,
you know, they hit a point where they were like, oh, yeah,
we can't just constantly put her in these terribly awkward
positions like utah, you know, stomping around in town essentially

(41:03):
in her underwear, Like come on, she's a great performer,
and like, yes, she's a supermodel, but let her be
an actor too. And it's nice that they that I
think they sort of course corrected and went, oh, we
can actually give her the space to be a comedian
and undercut some of what we've like made her go

(41:26):
through in the past. And it's fun to watch somebody
as tall and beautiful as her lean into like being
lanky and awkward, you know, lean into singing off pitch
so that in the next scene when you sing the
song perfectly to her, she's like, yep, cool, different skill sets,

(41:46):
Like she played it up so that it all could
really sing. And it's fun to see two beautiful women
who have been so you know, frankly sexualized on a
show like ours get to be goofy and sweet together.
It's like a king breath of fresh air.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, no, I agree, And it's fun to see because
even so a lot of things that you know, Chantal's
on is like really deep and heavy, and she's so talented,
so it's nice to she has like such a light
art of her too with acting, and she's so good
at it.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
I felt like there was a lot of that with Alex,
where it, like I said, it just became the like
high high and low low show and then we got
we got I remember the first time we got a
scene where it was like you just got to like
you just got to be a vulnerable human and you
were so great in it, and I felt myself going
like this, this should be the norm. And the other

(42:42):
thing should be the outlier like this, this should be
the like the meat and the other stuff should be
the like, Okay, on occasion, we're going to dip into this,
you know, because it's just to me, it was like
this the other person, this person's great at this other thing,
but like they're really shining and this moment. Why are
we not letting this happen more often? And I feel

(43:04):
like so much of Alex is kind of just there
to be like, I'm a tease, I'm out of control,
I'm a wild card. Bitches. It's like, okay, cool.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
I can tie a cherry tongue in my mouth.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Cool.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, But then you get this moment where you get
to see her as a human. You're like, oh, she's
totally likable and relatable and I'd like more of this
version of the character.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, And it feels like we're hitting a nice stride
with that, with what you were saying earlier, you getting
to bring more of yourself into her. It feels like
that's in really nice balance in this chunk of season eight.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah I wish, you know, obviously when the seasons go
on and stuff, but yeah, I wish I wish I
had more time with her, so you kind of finding
that path with her, but it was a fun ride.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
You also have a great chemistry with Stephen.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Steven's great.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
You guys are so sweet together.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
I'm, like I said, I'm watching this basically as a
first time viewer, so I have to say, I'm I
think I remember how Actually I don't really know how
that ends for you guys, but I just I know
that I am hardcore rooting for Chase and Alex over
Chase and Mia. And I've only seen up to eight twenty,
and obviously I know things are very good for you
guys in eight twenty, So I don't know where it

(44:20):
goes from there, but yeah, your guys' chemistry is so fun.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Man, He's great, and he was he was awesome back
then too. Always felt so comfortable with him. He wasn't
you know, he's he's just like he's a good, solid
dude and even to this day, and he's just he's
always such a nice, respectable guy. Yeah, No, I always
I loved working with him.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
He's a really good egg.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Oh jinks, whoa.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Whoa what he is? Stephen is a good egg and
like even to see he brought such a kind of
fresh vulnerability when he first came on the show and
hadn't you know, been acting before and was a little
nervous about it, but was just so damn charming. And
to even see the actor he's grown into across these

(45:11):
four seasons, it's like, God, he's so enjoyable to watch.
And I feel the same way like watching him and
James's show, they're just so great.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
There's a natural charm to him when especially with their
new show too, it's yeah, yeah, it's like he's just
he's a he's a natural. He's got a natural vibe
to him. I like, yeah, he's a good egg.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
He grew up a lot on our show, and I
think you see it in his acting. I'm saying he
grew up like personally, like knowing him as a friend,
he grew up totally on our show. And I think
when you watch the show, at least for me, like
knowing how he was growing behind the scenes, that like,
I think I see it in his performance and that
it is more grounded. And yeah, he's just he's fun

(45:55):
to watch and I'm glad that we're getting more of
him this season. But yeah, you're guys of stuff. I
thought you were just like a temptation and then it
was back to the chasing me a show. So I am.
I'm pleasantly surprised with the directions. I have no idea, buddy,
I don't. I have no idea how your story wraps up. Honestly,
I didn't even realize. So if I didn't realize that

(46:16):
Brooke got pregnant, so sorry for those who haven't watched.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
To be honest, I really don't. I mean, it was
kind of it was all kind of a blur.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Yeah, so I'm I'm going to be totally uh first
time or with however your thing wraps up. But I
think I have my heart broken. But I'm liking it
so far.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Okay, wait, you asked for things that we liked about
the episode. Yes, I love seeing the River Court challenge
come in because it reminded me I kind of honestly
forgot that that was a storyline. And when these you know,
condominiums coming soon, when that sign goes up, I was like,

(46:56):
oh my god, Yes, there's this thing to rally around.
And you do get that sense, you know, everyone thought
the show was going to be over at the end
of season eight, and so it feels like there's all
this conversation about you know, things changing, what's going to happen.
Are Brooke and Julian going to go to New York?

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Like?

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Are you and Chase going to be together? You know? What? Is?
What is Haley reflecting on as she's at home with
the baby and watching everyone process things, deal with things,
Like it feels like a wrap up is coming in
this really beautiful way, Like even though some of what's

(47:34):
happening in the episode is heavy, Rivercourt might get destroyed,
you know, Brooke has to pack up all this baby stuff,
Like can't even look at Julian. That was such you know,
a great call on our director's part to have him
hug me from behind, and we're both processing because we
can't see. We don't want to see what the other
person's dealing with in the moment, right we're trying to

(47:55):
hide how sad we are. Like some of it feels
really heavy, but in weird way that My overarching note
about the episode is how nostalgic it feels. And I
love it, even the sad stuff. I really really liked.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Watching it was it reminded me or actually it made
me sad for TV shows now because it's like what
you were saying. I was watching a show premiered last
night and I was like, rough, you know, so this
was a not a good new episode or season you know,
start or whatever. And then you watch that and it's

(48:31):
like it just there's that nostalgia that you're talking about,
and it's like, I missed that in shows, the writing,
the you know, it's just I don't know, minus a
few of the parts obviously, but no.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
But there was something about the time, and I know
what you mean. We were allowed to be people and
our feelings. Not everything was like a disaster or a
zombie or a crisis or a like our show I
think was special reflecting back on it, because it was
just about people.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Yeah, and it wasn't trying too hard to be this
or adding this into be that, or just trying to
please everything. It was just you were just pleasing your audience.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
I thought a highlight was your song. Yeah, it's it's
cool to watch, you know, watch a buddy shine and
you crushed it. That's crazy. This was like your first
time performing.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
But I was uncomfortable watching it again because I know
how uncomfortable I felt doing it. But and it's like,
oh god, you could just tell it because now I'm like,
I am all over the place, you know, and it's
just But again, I think that was perfect for what
she needed to do in that moment because that was
new for her too.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yes, well, and even the fact that we got that
great scene with you and Steven in the back like
the green room of Trick when you're like, I'm panicking,
like I need a boy and a drink anyone, like
whatever you're saying, It's like, it's so great because the
whole thing fuels it. And of course you as a
performer know how nervous you were, but for us as

(49:56):
the viewers, it didn't look like that. It looked like
you were stepping into this thing that you are supposed
to do. But I get it. Like when we first
started watching this show and I had to watch early
Brooke Davis being like the sexy girl in the backseat
of a car, I was like, who is that person?
She is so cringe. I like didn't know how to

(50:17):
move my body. It was just it was not correct.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Well, I think it's hard to look back. I mean,
there's so many things I look back on now and
I'm like, oh god, I sucked because I've but I've
grown as not only an actor but as a person.
I think growing in those areas helps you be a
better actor. So it's like because of the stuff that
I've gone through and work through, and it's like where
I can tap into things a little better. And so
it's just it's more grounded, and I look back on

(50:42):
old things and I'm like so not grounded and on
my feet with it. So it doesn't feel real. It
might look good or be believable, but it doesn't feel
real to me because I know that I wasn't like
planted in my scenes the way that I would have
wanted to where I am today. Like I can walk
away and go like I did good because I was
planned in that scene. I knew what I was doing.
I like tapped in and I felt good about it.

(51:04):
But like I didn't feel that back in my twenties
because I was still learning. I still really didn't know
what I was doing.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I mean, I feel like that's true for all of us.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Though, Okay, good, so it's not just me because I'm like, look,
I'm like, you're amazing you, but guys, I've always been
amazing and you were so good and you felt so confident,
and I'm telling.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
You and I will offer this up. You want a
confidence boost, you need to watch like the third episode
of season one and you will cackl like that. You
will be like, I know her, and she does not
push like that. I was so like I have to
do it, and they keep telling me to be bigger,
and I like, I want to die. I want to die.
And I remember I can like hear our directors being like,

(51:42):
you got to be bigger, you got to like really
go for it and be like okay, and it was
not correct. Yeah, but I think to your point, like
that's part of the gift of hindsight. It is like
we can see, we can see how much more comfortable
we are in ourselves. We can see how much how
much more we key into the people, not necessarily like

(52:06):
wanting to go to work and be a good soldier
and give a good performance. Like it's just a different energy. Yeah,
And I think we see things differently. I mean, you know,
even you saying rob like that line hitting you the
way it did because of the man you are at forty,
it's like, you know, we we couldn't we couldn't have
been here in our twenties.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Yeah, and Jenna, I had the exact same experience because also, I, yeah,
I'm because you know, like I'm a goofy guy, and
all of a sudden, I came into this show and
they were like your wife's dead as hell and trauma, trauma, trauma,
and I was just I felt like so out of
my depth.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Right, because was Lipstick Jungle before? Yeah, okay, yeah, because
like you were just like the hot you know, the
you know, the the whatever the hot dude on that,
and like you were like that's the same guys, yes and.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Yeahah, which even by the way, like that's also uncomfortable
because again, like I'm a goofy guy. I'm not like
do you like this show?

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Like no, that's not me, you.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
Know, but I had so I felt like way out
of my depth on this one. And then when they
like four episodes in, they're like, oh, his wife's dead
and we're going to shoot you like we're going to
shoot her death scene and we're going to shoot the funeral.
And I cringed so hard watched that episode because I
felt like I was watching a little kid put on
his dad's suit and pretend to be a grown up. Meanwhile, joy,

(53:25):
and so we like that that was not our experience,
you know, because, like you said, I remember how I
felt at the time, like I felt like absolute fraud.
I was pushing so hard because at that time, in
my head, the only way to show sadness was to
show tears, right, you know, And so I think it's
an incredibly common thing.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Okay, good, Well then I feel a little better now
because I just like cringe every time someone's like, oh,
I just saw your last episode of Grazes, and out
of man, I'm like, I am so sorry. That was terrible.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
No, there was a hilarious scene in this episode. I
don't know if I hope you guys caught it, but
it's Haley and Quinn are in the nursery and they're
like chatting up baby Lydia, and then Haley goes, okay,
let's let her sleep, and she leaves her there and
they walk out of the bedroom. She doesn't close the blinds,

(54:17):
she doesn't turn the lights off. It is literally the
brightest room in the history of rooms. And she's like,
this seems good.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, no sound machine.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
No sound machine. Also, it's like, dude, we had to
like block if there was a speck of light coming in,
our son would not sleep. It's like that's like every
parent's nightmare is like how do I black this room out?

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (54:37):
I have blackout curtains and it's like a black on blackout.
Like I tape the like there's no light in that.
I was like, if you can't you can see your hand.
It ain't dark enough, Like that's my but they end
out no.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yeah, pitch dark. Gaffer's tape over every.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Little hotels are great for the crib, yeah, oh all
the time. Or a closet.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Nica clip that one as well. East and that wall.
To me, the second SoundBite for this.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Episode listen, I mean mama would know that trick.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
I can't wait for the Yahoo news headline or the
buzz Feed headline. It's like Janna Kramer says, put your
baby in a closet.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
You know that scene made me laugh because I'm like,
she's she's also a parent already, so it's like she
knows the ropes come on guys.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yeah, it's like one of those things where they just
don't care because they're like, yeah, if it was actually
a dark enough room for a baby to sleep, you
wouldn't be able to see the baby. And this is
a television show, so we're gonna light it up like
the fourth of July in here.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
Also, have you ever put an infant down to sleep
when it's not already asleep? No, like, you hold them
until they're asleep, and then you like mission impossible, try
to transfer.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
See. I don't do that. I put I put them
in the cribo.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Wake and let them soothe and learn h because.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Then they're always gonna have to rock them to sleep
to put them down. But again, everyone does it differently.
But yeah, we're not a We're not a rock soothe down.
It's just a boop in your bed.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Okay, good for good for you, because I gotta say
I've spent a lot of time on the rocking train,
my friend.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
I get it. I did with the first too.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
All right, shall we should we hop into a listener question?

Speaker 2 (56:39):
I think we should?

Speaker 4 (56:39):
What do we got, Jannet? Do you want to read it?
Wor wan't me to take you?

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Sure? This is from Lisa. If the characters of One
Tree Hill had a group chat today, who would send
the most memes, who would leave the chat, and who
would constantly change the group name. That's great, this is
such a wow question. Then then then are you guys
allow to say who would leave the chat?

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Who would leave the chat?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (57:00):
I thought you were asking?

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Oh oh yeah, yeah the characters?

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Oh the character?

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Character easy? Easy.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
I was like, well, I would say the most memes
I do always Kardashian memes of like Chloe or something.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Oh my god, amazing. I know I was going to say.
When we first started to read the question, I was like,
Rob also is a meme guy, but characters, okay. I
feel like Nathan would have no time for the group chat.
He'd be like, I don't guys, I can't like. I
just think I think he would be the person who
would stay in it, but would put it on mute

(57:35):
and just check it when he wants to.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
I feel like Hayley would leave. She's a mom, She's
got a lot going on. She's like, I don't want
to deal with anybody's drama or don't care.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
I could see Julian sending a lot of memes.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
I like Julian memes.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Yes, Clay as well.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
I would probably change the name a lot, just like
to be dumb and silly. And I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I would actually love to see Alex's title for the group.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Chat hot Bitches as.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Oh my god, I.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Love yeah, honorable mention. I'm just gonna jump in mine.
It's you, Janna and premiering your song. Yes, especially knowing
that this was like the kickoff of everything that was
to come. Man, that's so freaking cool.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Thank you so much, thanks so cool.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I fully agree. And also a little like behind the scenes,
honorable mention to piggyback on this for you. I remember
when this stuff started to shift, and to your point,
like the whole record deal, everything started going. People don't
know how hard you were working because you would be

(58:44):
in Wilmington with us on set. They would shuffle the schedule.
I mean, we'd like get you from work to the
airport and then you'd go and work in Nashville, and
then you'd fly back to come to work, and like
you were on that rotation in seven days a week,
doing the thing, chasing the dream, and like that's the

(59:05):
stuff most people don't see, but we got to see it,
especially like you'd get home and I'd hear your keys
in the apartment door and it'd be like it's Thursday, night,
she's back. Like you know, you just never know when
someone's on that kind of rotation, and it was really
cool to watch you just like lean all the way in.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Thanks girl, I appreciate it. Thanks for the love. You
guys are so sweet. It was an honor to work
with all of you, guys, so the best. Thank you?

Speaker 4 (59:33):
Shall we spin a wheel?

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Oh a love fest into a wheel? Spin give it
to me?

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Yeah, buddy, hey, most likely to run for office and.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Win, Clay really Yeah, you're like the agent and.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
The business guy the busside.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
Yeah, I accept your nomination.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Trust I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
And if it's real life, I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Say so you sweet soul well obviously, Yeah he's that
and there we go, girl, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Oh, Jenna, thank you for coming man.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Thanks for having me, guys. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Thanks friend.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
All y'all listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Next week we've got season eight, episode twenty, The Man
Who's Sailed Around his Soul.

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