LIVE IN PHILLY! feat. Paul Johansson & Torrey DeVitto

The DQ RV tour takes us to the City of Brotherly Love…or more aptly, the City of Sisterly Love. Either way the irony is thick as the discussion is all about favorite villains with none other than Dan Scott and Nanny Carrie!  And even more secrets are shared including favorite OTH moment, favorite movie and favorite on-screen kiss!

Plus some real life villainous behavior is revealed...Find out which Queen once crashed a wedding!  

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, you don't know me. We all got
that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl all about them
high school queens forever. We'll take you for a ride
in our comic girl Rama from Cheered Father, Right Drama
Queens Da Well, girl Fashing. But you'll tell girls you
can sit with us Girl Drama Queens, Drawn McQueen's Drama,
Queen's Drama, John McQueen's Drama Queens Please, Welcome to the

(00:24):
stage your Drama Queen's Hillary Burden, Morgan, Sophia Bush and
Bethany Joy Lens. Welcome to our coven. You guys, You

(00:59):
guys are awesome. Okay, so we're gonna give you the
heads up. We threw away the script because this is
the last show, the last top of our tour. We
have had the best time. It's been a blast, and
we were just like, we're not going to do it
the way we've been doing it. We're just gonna make

(01:20):
some up, right, Philly, how are you ready to party?
All Right? The late night show always ends up being
a little salty, right. I think that's such a rowdy crowd,
especially here in Philly. I love this city. This city
is so cool. I've been to Philly once before. I

(01:41):
think maybe on the tour that the one to Reel
tour we did with Tyler and Gavin to Grand Michelle
and um, but I didn't get to really spend time here.
It was just sort of on and off the tour bus.
So this is really cool. We were driving through the
city like, it's so artsy, it's so interesting. There's obviously
so much history here and it's like spooky you guys.
We were in the car and we were like, do

(02:02):
we need to move here? It's cute. It has all
of like the checklist items if you're a witch. It's
like cute little shops check, cobblestone streets chu, creepy alleys check,
you know, all the obsessed with all the what do
you call it on the walls with their saying outside guys.

(02:28):
We were talking backstage with the nice ladies who helped
us get ready, who were like, well, you must know
fill in the blank, like restaurant whatever, and we were
like no, and they said, well, how haven't you ever
been to Philly? And I was like no, Oh, there
was this one time I gave him the filling and
I spoke to the girl scouts. They did like a

(02:48):
girl Scout convention here and it was so cute and
they were like five thousand little girls. They were really
excited about community service. And two of my friends were
with me and it was like we it was so good.
It was being in a Disney cartoon. That that night
we were walking to dinner, we crashed the wedding. Yes,
this is the wedding, Cristy. Yes, so if you guys

(03:10):
don't think for a second. We saw a party tent
being put up like a few blocks from here, on
our way to the show tonight, and Sophia's late, remember
what block this is on. I was like, listen, I
have a tradition here. I'm in somebody's wedding video. I
was only in their reception for eleven minutes, but I
figured i'd make account. Oh yeah, surely there's a Wednesday
wedding happening somewhere. Of course, why not? Or maybe up

(03:33):
our mitzvah. This guy, we said, let's get into trouble.
Let's mix it up. What's the trouble we want to
hit in Philly? What do we want? Fish Town? What
is then this town? This shown doesn't sound like okay,
she says fish towns where the witchy stores are. Oh

(03:54):
she's a witch. Okay, okay, listen, I see you, I
hear you, I feel you, I understand. Thank you. Sister. Yeah,
we have felt that this is very much the city
of sisterly love. Yeah, definitely. The first audience was so loving,
so we felt kind of letting them know, this is

(04:14):
villain's night, so we want to talk about all things
evil tonight. Have you guys gotten to play bad guys before?
Mark Davis used to be kind of a bad guy.
Don't talk about you that way. I love her, but
she can throw him a nice punch and good slap. Yes,

(04:37):
as the person on the receiving him that just watched
that episode today, Yeah, yeah, that was that was brutal. Yeah,
it was a hard slap. We did a podcast today
in our hotel and we all went, um, I got
to play a villa. I just did that movie so
called The River, and so I kind of turned into
a villain in that and then also an agent of Shield.

(04:59):
I was like kind of creepy and cold and villainy.
That was. It's fun. It's always the most fun to
play at the villains because they're just so bad and gated.
I just break up relationships. That's like every show I'm on.
I'm like, you guys are enjoying that. So you're an
emotional villain. It's what you're saying. Up, let's kiss Yeah.

(05:26):
Lots of different kinds of villains who are like our
our hero villains. Yeah, who's your favorite when you were
grown up? Like for me, Alan Rickman and die Hard
is like so fi he's so evil. He's so evil,
but he's also like, you'd still kiss him. He's got
a cool accent, he dresses nice, like he's ambitious. That's

(05:49):
attract dude. I felt that way about. I can't remember
his character's name. I feel like maybe it was Jack
in Outlander, Tobias Menzies in Outlander, Like he was really
I just was so it was the same vibe, was
like I hate you, I kind of want to make
out with you. I'm gonna kiss you. Yeah, that's why
we're all in therapy. No, I'm not. I'm married Megan,

(06:15):
Like I literally saw it, grabbit kid, who's your favorite
villain growing up? Oh? Man, you know what she's laughing already. Okay,
So one of my favorite movies growing up was The
Princess Bride, of course, and I watched it over and over,

(06:36):
like I burned through the VHS tape. And then years
later I was like, you know what I want to
have like a throwback to childhood movie, and I'm gonna
watch The Princess Bride. And I was like, oh, this
is a comedy, like this is a serious movie at all.
But as a little kid, I was like, write, some
unusual size, so dangerous. Oh god, And I thought he's

(06:59):
not left handed? Oh yeah, why does he have six singers?
I really thought of all the Pirates, I was like,
their villains when they get turned good because there's so
much goodness in this movie. And I was like, no,
they're bumbling idiots and they're adorable. But as a little
girl who thought that was a serious movie, they were
like my favorite. I love that. I mean, bad guys

(07:21):
are the backbonus storytelling, because you can't have a really
good story without having a villain. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, who
you ask what da Listen, We're gonna have to have
two more drinks before dance Scott comes up. It's true. Yeah,
one of them. Stop it right now? Is that a
toll boy? Wow? I'm sorry that all white claw. Wow.

(07:54):
All right, well listen, how you guys are here with
your friends tonight. How many of you are here totally
by yourself and you all right, it's someone next to you.
Just raise their hand right now, you introduce yourself, you
say welcome to the one tree for family. That's right

(08:15):
that you don't just have to do that in church.
Now you do it at our see you with you, Peace,
be with you everyone. Our fandom is a family. It's
so cool when we see people come to things like this.
You've met online at least favorite part of church, what
you got to touch. Everybody is welcome. If you haven't
been here with us, we just want you to turn

(08:36):
to your neighbor and say good morning. Let them know.
I hate that part. It makes me so uncomfortable. I'm
always just like, oh god, no, don't talk to me.
I don't know you strange, your danger. Yeah, I'm really
glad we just made at least forty people do that.
You guys are gonna be fine. Like in this room,
it's like a pre screen. If you're here, if you're

(08:59):
with us a Wednesday night, you're probably a pretty cool person. Yeah,
we're all on this journey together. Joy do you want
to talk about journey? I love talking about Journey's Hillary.
Today's Journey is brought to you by Cheap Caribbean. Al Right,
to all of our drama Queen's friends out there, this

(09:19):
tour has been incredible, but also this last year of
podcasting with you guys, hanging out with us, has been
so awesome. So cheers, cheers to our sisters. Here's well,
we want to talk to you some more about your
favorite villains, and we want to talk to your favorite villains.
So we brought some pretty cool people on the store

(09:42):
with us, and tonight we had Nanny Carey and Dance
Spot and Paul Joe Hanson. Yea, he's a teddy man.

(10:09):
Hello everyone. Yeah, I know, I didn't hear that song,
the Bad Boys song that came on when we came out.
That's hilarious. Honestly, they were like, what song should we
have for like Phil and Knight, and I think we
joke at Lea said on the zoom We're like Bad
Boys the cup Steam song, and then we never followed
up and it was like, you know what, that was

(10:30):
the right choice. He's a director, she's the muscles on

(10:55):
this man joys this muscle. Hello, well has been doing
push up stage. Do you feeling to stay super strong
to be a villain so so you could fight at
any given time? Yes, yes I do very Tori defeato.

(11:18):
She defeated me though, right. I tried to. I tried
to for a time, for a time. Okay. My question
is that's a that's a. My question is you when
you were in Berserker with Craig Scheffer. I want to

(11:41):
know about playing a villain in that movie? I was.
I was the hero in that movie. Yes. Berserker is
a classic film, which I'm sure you've all seen. Yes, yes,
I shot it in nineteen in South Africa, and I
was a Viking who traveled through time because a spell

(12:02):
was cast on me by a witch. My brother stay
with me. My brother tories like my brother played by
Craig Schiff for three years before Winter Hill, and my
brother followed me through spacetime into the future in Sweden,

(12:24):
where I was a Viking berserker warrior looking to kill
the witch to cast a spell on Are you still
with me? Okay? I didn't shoot him, but I was going.
I turned to kill my brother. Look at this good
and and I before I went to shoot this movie.

(12:45):
They paid me an extra amount of money to get ripped?
Can we all say that together? That's what I liked,
So I'm hearing, is it you and Craig Cheffer essentially
essentially cast a reverse spell and got us to make

(13:08):
our show and then got us to show up here
as witches tonight like that. When I was movie opening
in the space movie was huge. The movie is a classic.
I'm sure it was nominated for nothing. I don't me
that you ever got. By the way, the producers who
made the movie, who was an English company called Peak
View Entertainment Entertainment, all the producers of the movie went

(13:31):
to jail for embezzling money from the UK government. It's
a family. The family, brother, the sister, the brother all
went to jail for stealing money from UK government for
you know, making movies and then lying about how much
it cost and then getting money. There's some of that
the money they paid you to get Ripped, like I
got list movie where the budget has been embezzled, then

(13:57):
you're not working in film. That's right, that's right. Absolutely,
this is an actor and it was was Nanny carry
your first villain? Yes, she was most definitely my first villain.
I even like in theater like high schools anything. Yet, yeah,
she was my first villain. Do you know she was
going to be a villain or did you just think

(14:17):
you were getting cast to play a nice lady taking
care of a cute kid. I was cast to play
the nanny. So crazy was in there? It was she
was in your audition audition. I was just like, oh, hi, Hailey,
nice to meet you. I'm Carrie. And that was all
my audition was. So I'm like, what do I exude?
That made them think like, let's put a little crazy

(14:38):
and there's what I know. But yeah, no, nothing. It
was just a nice thing. And then after the first
chunk of episodes when I tried to break up your marriage, um,
they called me and they called me because I thought
I was done. After that, you know, she had been
cast off and I thought I was done, And they

(14:58):
called me and they said, what do you think about
coming back and doing a misery storyline with her? And
I was like like, yes, are you kidding me? That's
like the dream? So yeah, I had no idea. What's
your family say? My grandma was like, well I told
all my church friends to watch it. She talked about
the part of the service and everybody's shaking each other's hand.

(15:20):
She was like, well, I just don't know about you anymore, Tory,
And I was like, I'm sorry. Yeah, that wasn't a
direct quote. She still loves me, though, she's just a
little scared of me now. But you know, God, who
is your favorite villain growing up? Did you have movie
villains or anything that you have a favorite villain? But
I think my favorite like scary movie with killer clowns

(15:40):
from outer space shot? Yes, that was a good one nightmare.
Who showed you that movie? Me and my best friend
in middle school used to watch it on repeat. That
in Greece too, we used to alternate. Wait, so if
you're watching freaky stuff, did you ever watch Sleepaway Camp? No?
Because that was also like top tid. I'm going to

(16:01):
check that one out. Yeah, that's this week's movie that
he just talked about. A movie like scared the Jesus
out of you when you were a kid, The ring scared?
He was the ring terrified. Well, the first movie that
scared really scared me was Jaws ninety four. I think

(16:25):
the shark was cardboard Um before c G. I write,
but the Exorcist. Um. When I saw that and then
the little girls had spin around. I was really young,
and I mean literally, I think because I was raised
Catholic and I really believed all of that stuff, to

(16:47):
the point where my dad was like putting like holy
oil on our heads before we go to sleep. And yeah,
I know it was. It was traumatic, but look you're here,
it works. His head starts spinning. The answer sist either
you've never seen it? Me neither you guys. They shot

(17:07):
it in d C. And I grew up in like
outside of d C. And that was like the big
hot date night, Like you'd go to the stairs with
the priest cup pushed down the stairs like that was
a hot date. How about fire Starter? Though, fire Starter
was actually filmed in Willmington, that Drew Barrymore movie. If
you've ever seen that poster of Drew Barrymore is a
little girl with her hair all crazy and then everything's
on fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was filmed in Wilmington's

(17:29):
and I remember when we got there that was a
big deal that we were in the town where they
had filmed fires this legendary uh Hollywood pedigree history. That's great.
Did you ever think when you were a little kid
that you would be creating a scary iconic character. What
do you want, you guys talking about any good gossip

(17:56):
over there? Oh? Let me sure, Paul, hold on, are
they making fun of really talking about Did you ever
think when you're a little kid, like I'm going to
create a villain like in your room alone? Yeah? Yeah, look,
just so you guys should kill the whole thing. I

(18:17):
had no interest in acting, not like the geniuses over here.
I really had no interest in acting until I was
years old. I was a basketball player. I played for
my university, I played for my country. I was the
real deal. I wasn't like this diet coke stiff motherfuck cola.

(18:39):
Like I could really play. So when I was watching you, okay,
it's a nice move, it's like, I mean, I did
commercials with Magic Johnson, Tim Hardaway, Spike Lee directed be
in a commercial. Just mio. I mean I did. I
was like the I was a real ballplayer, right. I
thought I was gonna make the NBA, and then I
came to America and went, know, yeah, I'm not making

(19:02):
the NBA. So I got in a Yeah, but do
you feel like that competitive nature? And that's talking on
the court helped you create characters that were aggressive that way.
I think that part's probably true, But I will say
that I think being an athlete got in the way
of helping with like movement, like being like confident in

(19:23):
movement and acting, and the confidence is important to that's
all acting is anyway, by the way. Confidence. Um, but
there's seriously, there's an intimacy in basketball where you're in
each other's face. We really like football helmets very intimate
in basketball law in basketball. No, you nailed it. That's
what sure plots internacy basketball. I can see Dan Scott

(19:49):
energy on the basketball court because you get right up
in people's faces. Yeah, no, you're right. I'm just saying that,
Like I think that sports can be a little bit. Uh.
I don't think competition in acting is healthy. I think
that you need to not be competitive and enacting. I
know it sounds weird, but I think it's the it's
really paralyzing because then you start trying to compare your

(20:12):
work or performance or career. It's it's the opposite. So
I kind of like fought real hard to try to
lose that part of my personality in acting because it
didn't service me, you know what I mean? So then
which villains did you look to to say, all right,
these are the granddaddy's of Dan Scott. Right, there's a
fly that Yeah, depending on your decay, I do because

(20:40):
he used that blood to paint your eyes. You look
like that girl the night. Where when is the number
before Christmas? Thing? Beautiful? Way? No, it's corpse hot Oh
I was going to go somewhere, don't. Don't. Did either

(21:04):
of you guys have to like, did you find yourself
doing research or using character references or anything to sort
of build the characters of Dan and Carrie? Yeah. I
practiced using a syringe so many times in my photob
over and over, like pillows, what oranges, like whatever would
take me. I was like just like walking around my

(21:27):
hotel room with syringes. I went. I had to hold
a revolver and I never held a gun, so I
went to a gun range. I was so intense about
doing her because it was also like my first role
that I was like, people are going to see this.
I was like, oh my god, and I my first
I mean probably the whole first season five. Every day
I went to set, I probably hit it unless you

(21:48):
saw it. I don't know. I was shaking every day.
I was so nervous. I remember I had to pour
coffee pot for one and I was like, I was like,
oh my god, So I like really did some weird
I remember my my ex husband at the time came
to visit me and he was literally like, I can't
be around you. You have to put the syringes away.
And I was like what, He's like, it's really started

(22:11):
your soid. I was not. You know, that was my twenties.
Now I have a little more shill. Did you have
actresses that you were like the you know, like hand
the Rocks. The Cradle was great source material for the
Nanny Carey storyline. Were there any like actresses you're like, oh,
I like this crazy because it's also fun. Yeah. No,

(22:32):
I didn't think anything was fun about it because I
was so into it that every day I was like
feeling like I had to be so quiet and like
in my head and in my space and like have
all this compassion for her. And I was like, and
you know, I would just go home and play my
Nintendo ds like the Brain Game to try to like
not think about set. You never settled into it at
work where you could enjoy the fun of playing it.

(22:54):
It was so intellory. Actually, you know what's true. You
were very quiet on the set, you was I was
scared of my own shadow, and I was like, I
wanted to do a good job. It was so intense
for me. I trying to make you laughing. You were
just not. I was like, she doesn't laughs, she doesn't
know how. She's a corpse nurse, corpse hot nurse. What

(23:21):
was that dynamic for you too, though, because you're used
to being the bad guy and now all of a
sudden you're the victim. Was that weird? I mean it's okay, Well,
that's a great pass to get really into the So
for me, I don't ever play bad guys effort. Yeah,
you justify everything they do there. So see how they
mocked me to see the stuff I take behind the scenes.

(23:43):
Is this exactly? This is abuse. This is abuse. A
lot of people condescending. She's limpy, Thank you very much.
I would like one compliment before we move on, Hillary,
I talked about your muscles all night. Good enough, Now
I'd like to talk about my muscles. No, come on,

(24:05):
I mean, okay, the thing is when you play a
bad guy, so I studied a little bit of a
movie called The Great Santini when I got this part.
If you guys probably don't who that is, but Robert
Duval played overbearing father. And I know that I got
this job because, um, the creators of the show and
the and the Brian Robbins and Mike Tollin's knew me.

(24:26):
Who were the producers of this show and what are
the ones they did in Canada? The other shows they did, like, well,
they knew me because they as a basketball player from before,
so they knew about my kind of career and they
knew that my dad was a former hockey star and
I was a semi successful basketball player in one right.

(24:47):
But I had that on the court, I was kind
of known for being really intense in a way that
was kind of beyond um. It's kind of like you
ever seen the Michael Jordan documentary. He's just I'm just
like Michael Jordan's No, but the intensity where it's like
it's beyond friendships, it's beyond anything. It's about It's about
the wind. That's it, you know what I mean. Take prisoners,

(25:10):
make friends later. Right now, I'm here to win, and
that's how you need to be trained to be like
you know, the top level athletes. Unfortunately, in a lot
of sports, I don't know if it's true anymore, but
that's why they taught us. When I was growing up,
we had sports psychologists at the Olympic training programs in
Canada where they would they would come in your room
before um you go to bed and put a tape
on and there's a hundred sounds, a hundred of the

(25:31):
same repetitive sounds of a ball going through a net,
not hitting the rim, just a net. To sleep to this, well,
you have to psychologically imagine making every shot before you
get a better and but that that kind of like
reinforcement will they do with the US always gonna say
it sounds like a government experience, like nightmare Like sports
psychology is a really high level things. For Olympic skiers.

(25:54):
You have to see every turn and they have to
success with complete in their minds. But in your mind,
they go, everything's in your mind, yes, so you just
think good. So that's why I was danced got that
way because I played it in through that kind of intensity.
Does that make sense? Kind of applied all of the

(26:15):
intensity of your Olympic training and your basketball history to
him and then and then did that make it really
easy for you as Dan to apply that kind of
intensity to Nathan with the Ravens, Like did it did
it really just track as honest well for you in
that way? A beautiful question? Um, you know, and that's

(26:37):
not kind of that was a That was a beautiful
question because it cuts to some important points, which is
um the nuance of of being. Also, how do you
take all that mixture of what I said a minute
ago and then apply it to what would I do
as a real father? What I care for my son?
How do I want him to be successful? What is
the right amount of love, the right amount of reinforcement,

(26:59):
and how do you discipline and self discipline and all
that kind of deferred gratification that things you need to
do in order to he wants to do this? How
do I help them get there? So I over applied
those things, but I tried to do it in through
the vein of the idea that he's my son, I
love him, I want him six seed, and he doesn't
know that my being tough on him is actually the

(27:19):
best gift I could ever give him. Through that lens
is how I played him through Nathan. The whole story
when I'm with Lucas was a completely different approach, as
completely different approach, so I could separate the two. So
you'll see that I never talked to the two the
same ever, ever, ever, ever, because I approached them completely different.
So yeah's got the mayor may Dan great again? But

(27:50):
too soon? Sorry, I mean they are similar. It's a
good client. Were you that? Were you always surprised when
you had fans come up to you and yell at you? Yeah?
Were you if you see since you see Dan as

(28:16):
not a villain, as someone who you found compassion for
and you rationalized all of his choices, which you had
to do obviously, But then did it always kind of
surprise you when fans would come up and be angry?
I mean, what's like some of the what's the craziest
fan experience you had? Because people would come up to
you mad all the time. This is best transferred to
Sophia to tell this story. You guys, I will never

(28:39):
forget the first like, oh, I don't know if being
an actor was a good idea moment that I had
was with Paul in the first season of our show,
and you know it's airing and we're walking down the
street one day and Will it was daylight, it was
broad daylight. I don't remember where we were going. We
don't go out in daylight normally, I know, you know,

(29:01):
it's rare. It's amazing we didn't combust. But we were
walking down the street and I just hear you and
I turned around and Paul just looked so surprised. And
I had to look around him because look at his body.
And this woman has run up behind him and she
had like a you know, one of those persons just
with a strap, and she grabbed it and was going

(29:24):
you sweeing her purse, hitting him in the arm. You
are such a bit dad, What is the matter with you?
And I was like, oh my god, and do you
remember what you did? You hope? No. Paul is so
quick and you realized she really thought of you as

(29:44):
Dan Scott and as she swear person. I'm like us,
I need an arm. I need you to give me
an arm. I have to demonstrate and let me act.
He grabs her and he goes, yeah, baby, I am
a bad dad and this woman bad day. The way

(30:06):
you just felt I watched happened to her. It washed
over her face and suddenly she had her purse like
this and she was like hi, and I was like,
I can't tell if you were going to be charged
with as salt or get a phone number and go
on a date. But either way, I'm a witness. He's

(30:30):
a bad dad. I love. Yeah. Crazy couple interactions too,
I did. I had weird Yeah, a lot of people.
It was intense, but the most yes, that was the problem. Right.
So one that was super memorable. I went to the

(30:51):
gym and I was getting undressed, not dressed, undressed in
the locker room and I'm standing there pretty much naked,
and this girl it comes after me and she was like,
you're ruining everything. She turned around and walked away, and
I was like standing there naked, like, oh, just mortified.

(31:11):
I was like, this is wild. I feel like I
could see you being in an elevator, like being cute
with the baby and the mom being like, don't look
at me. Well, actually, let's telling me about that. I
was actually volunteering at the children's hospital at U C.
L A. And I went to go to One Tree
and I went back to the children's hospital and I
was assigned to the teen ward. Oh, no, and I'm

(31:35):
walking down and I see this. Two teens actually come
out of the rooms, and I swear to you. One
steps out, looks at me and goes right back, And
I'm here to help. I wanted to help. Maybe there
is nothing you could say at that point. Oh no,
I've played other people too. I'm not going to harm me.

(32:00):
I swear. That's kind of fun, though, I mean, your
characters did batch stuff. Is there any stuff you wish
your character had done? Like, what's the one step further
that you wish you'd had? Do you sing, Tori, I
don't because you play violin. You come from a musical family.
Your sisters also play instruments. Just me. Okay, imagine if

(32:23):
you'd stayed the nice nanny and you guys could have
made music. Yeah, been in a band. I mean she
should have would have could have she just could have
seen clearly right, that's rue. No, but you know, I
guess violin. Maybe I could have played for you after
fit you cockroaches? Would that have been? That would have

(32:44):
been really romantic? Romantic playing sounds like my Last Tender Day.
You literally did do everything on the show. I was

(33:08):
just gonna we jumped the Shark pretty much like from
the Jump. Um that though, that was our writers being like,
you know what, you guys have been making fun of us,
watch this and that was the original hold my beer? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was you guys. Okay, you want crazy crazy? Well,

(33:37):
speaking of music, we have some great music for you tonight,
and we're really excited to bring out this band that
is close to my heart and I'm sure as close
to yours as well. Ladies and gentlemen, Will you please
give a huge round of applause for switch Fund Yeah, yeast,

(34:22):
all right, we're in love with these dudes. At this point.
We've been on the road together. Hello, Hello, where you
were trying to We were trying to hang out with
girls you thought were us in the hotel. It's true.
I'm I'm the awkward guy. That's me. And I saw

(34:42):
someone who I knew was in One Tree Hill and
I thought I had met her in d C. We
were in d C last night and I'm like, hey,
how are you doing. My brother's seeing this whole thing,
and he's like just laughing, and I'm like I could
just warn but he's like, good to see you again.
We met last night and she's like it was a

(35:05):
story though it was. It was because I didn't know
who that you guys were seeing there with a lot
of stuff around you like books and things look like things,
And I was like, did they live in this hotel?
Where was I last night that I saw this person?
I was so confused into this place. Oh yeah, So

(35:26):
then we walk in here and my brother's like, you
know that girl, you embarrassed yourself in front of the
other problem. That's her on stage again. You guys have
been on the road a lot. We've been on the road,
you know. We're like, we're learning the ropes of the
road very slowly. Is this you've been to Philly before?
I'm sure many many times any time. I love, yes,

(35:51):
lovely Philly. We cleaned this room many times. I've never
seen it with chairs before. I'm usually like crowdsurfing or
climbing up there somewhere, um doing right now all the
way out there? Um. And I want to I want
to recall the very first time we ever played a
show outside of California. It was here in Philly, and yeah,

(36:15):
this was this was the city where we thought maybe
we could actually be a band, we could do that. Actually,
do you remember the drive into that show. I remember you. Yes,
so were you guys in a van. Yeah, this is like,

(36:36):
you know, in the year two thousand and and I'm
driving over the toll bridge. You guys are familiar with
this from New York to Philly, and there's our third
time across. Well, so I was getting to that, so
I kept I was driving, and I kept making a
wrong turn and looping back around. So it was this
is my third time paying the same toll. No, we're not,

(36:59):
We're in that. And then at this point we're late,
and I'm kind of like stressed, and everyone's kind of
on my case of change, and so I'm looking for
change and I take my foot off of the what's
it called the break called breaks, and so I'm rolling
that I don't realize it, and and who's in front

(37:22):
of us, but I mean taller than you, larger than
like just like this this just mountain of a man
on a motorcycle and I just roll right into the back.
And so it's like he was like out of a
movie where it's like stands up and you just keep
standing and then slow walks back and uh, you know,

(37:48):
he thought I was like causing trouble, and I was like,
I would never do that to someone of your side,
so please tell me you said exactly that. He sounded
the fear on my little face. And then then really
he looked at his bike and he was like, okay,
no harm done, go on and I was like okay.
And ever since then we loved Philly. That's right, basically,

(38:09):
ever since you didn't die getting into the city. You
like it here, Thanks for letting us back in. Yeah,
I think you owe Philly payback with a song. Yeah,
that's right, do it on one conditioning us, So we'll

(38:38):
do this. Um this song. This was the first song
that really where I fell in love with switch Foot
as a band, because I was watching my friend Nicholas
Sparks wrote a book called to Walk to Remember, and
they made a movie about it, and then you guys
had this beautiful song featured in the movie and I
walked around my house for like a year afterwards singing it.
So this is kind of like a dream come true

(39:00):
for me. Just bear with me while I have my
fan girl moment. There's the song that's inside my soul.

(39:22):
It's the one that I try to write over and
over again. Awaken the filing. But you seem to me
over and over and over again. So running bye bye

(39:57):
li bad to me friend, feel whole well, Sten to

(40:24):
me of the song of the song of your melody
dancecing you're laughing, laughing again when it feels like my
jeans so far, Sten to me face that you have

(40:55):
have me so well, my eye, my prayer to feel

(41:18):
only I know I heard out there Philly you're singing
it's your chance to waltz. You're like I was never

(41:39):
hereen heard of waltzing before tune my I'm giving you all.
I want your sympon seeing you know at the time,

(42:06):
get my down, show me the play another light not dead,
my to be, to be drink to yours my down.

(42:40):
Oh look, I mean a dandy with basin for my

(43:05):
friend joy. You guys keep so much about that high though,
right right, So I feel like we, um, let's just

(43:30):
stay in the nostalgia ville. But since it's it's Halloween
coming up, we've got a Halloween theme. Can I put
my Bob Dylan costume on there? It is right there
there is um pretty convincing, right, No, not really chicken

(43:56):
cheating Bob Dylan, You're Bob Dylan costume looks like a harponica,
So I want to play one of the first songs
I wrote after dropping out of college. But it feels
like you can cheer it out whatever you want. I
know we're driving, fumbling his confidence and wondering why the

(44:25):
world is past by hoping that he's been moved arguments
and failed attempt to fly hat fly had We even

(44:45):
meant to live so much for feel lobster, So it's
smelly literious, smelly. We even meant to live so much,
and we lost ourselves Smarry liarside, dreaming about providence. Whether

(45:15):
mind's like me got a second try high. Maybe we've
been hiving with the eyes of open. Maybe you were
bent and broken, broken, broken, We remant to live so

(45:38):
much smaller, and we lost ourselves to spry lit inside
smeary liarsa. We were meant to live so much and
we lost ourselves. May live in you want in The

(46:10):
squirrels got to offer, Yeah, we want more in this
world is got to offer, Yeah, we want more. And
the words and the words of our father's everything is
side screens for second life health. You manage late so

(46:37):
much world, and we lost ourselves and we managin late
so much more. We lost our settings and we mention
it souls and we lost ourselves being ment to leave. Why,

(47:08):
thank you very much so we I just realized we're
coming back to Pennsylvania in a couple of weeks. Is
playing a month a month? I don't know the dates.
It's a Christmas too. We're doing a Christmas to a
little Bertie told us. But these guys will be back

(47:31):
here on December six. Thank you put it in your calendars.
Are you guys gonna dress like handsome Santence? I mean,
I don't want to give it away. Wait before you
do your next song, guys, there's an experience like the
last show. This was so cool, and I'm hoping that
our backup house lighting can do the same thing that

(47:52):
you did last time, because this is such a cool experience.
If you guys will get your phone lights ready and
just do the whole little thing that you guys did
last time, you guy, turn off off, us off, and
just like enjoy this magical experience because this song is
super meaningful to me and I know it will be
to all of you. Be like Christmas lights for Halloween.

(48:19):
That's a night it's about as awkward as I am.
You are welcome to the place. Welcome to exist, Sank.

(48:49):
Everyone's see here, everyone's see you, everybody's watching you, everybody
wit you happen. What happens is what happens. Dare you?

(49:18):
Dare you? Dare you yourself? Out blue? Dare you dare
you like to day wrapppen today happen. I'm gonna go

(49:56):
on record and say the three crowds we've had, this
is the best crowd yet, y'all. Yeah, I got to
the far culture is as you see, the tension is

(50:19):
right here, and the tension is right here. It's between
the way he's through spins and I should dare you?

(50:40):
Dare you? Dare you got self? Dare you dare you to? Day?
Never never mere Soris? Maybe we get this is right

(51:13):
where you do where she can't run to the same
on yourself? Where are you gonna go? Where are you
gonna go? Ahead? Are you gonna runt? Now? He ain't

(51:36):
gonna hear you one last time before we go back
to California. I mean it's that's going to get where
you're gonna run to? Dare you? Dare you? Dare you

(51:57):
yourselfer out to go dare you? Dare you? Wow? Wow, wow,

(52:30):
thank you so much, pi A, Yeah, thank you for
having what a gift. Yeah, it's beautiful. Wow. That is
a level of an astous amazing. Look here, we like

(52:55):
they hung out with this yesterday and d C and
we're like, oh cool to watch somebody performed three times
in two days and still be like, oh yeah, solid.
Well because you also talk about the fact that Joy
gave me massive chills. Yes, I like staring at her like,

(53:18):
are we gonna name this episode the high Note? I know? Yeah? Yeah,
thanks guys. You know, singing is a little bit like
basketball and you have to hit the high note. You
really imagine it going up and over and right into them.
That guys, we are so happy to be here on

(53:42):
our last show with you, and we want to answer
your questions. We want to be about to talk to
you a little bit. You've got one of our producers
out here who's going to pass a microphone around. You
know you're there, Summer. I love seeing those houselights. It's
nice to see all you guys. Can we raise the
house here? That's all right, We have our first question

(54:09):
of the night from Claudia. Hi, Claudia, Hi. Oh my gosh,
Oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm talking to you
right now. Um. My question is if you could play
any other character on the show, who would you play? Dan? Yeah,

(54:31):
that's what I was gonna say, of course. Yeah, that
is the sweetest thing, baby baby, repeat that, please, hot dad,
Chris Keller. But wait, what is that? Chairs? I want

(54:51):
to play deb real bad ye. So what you're saying
is it we all want to be there? What was
your favorite scene to shoot with Barbara? By the way,
do you have a favorite or like a great dad?
Come on, you need to reenact the scene. All the
stuff when we were like can with each other was

(55:15):
but I want to talk about who I wanted to play?
Who do you want to play? I would I wanted
to play Keith part and I got really upset when
I found out, Like what do you mean I'm I'm
the bad guy? And they were like, no, no, you
want to be the trust But I'm like, no, I
want to be the cool guy that everybody wants to
go to a talk to, Like no, you don't you know, no,

(55:35):
I do that. I literally had those conversations and then
they said, just embrace it. Trust us, You're gonna the
storyline is gonna go something you guys do well in
real life. You're the guy, the cool guy that everybody
goes to. Sorry, what about you? Who would you want?
Who would you play? Jamie? I feel like we can
stretch you can stretch yourself a little bit more than that. What,

(56:04):
Um No, I mean, I don't know. I mean I
would definitely be fun. Although no, I don't want the
cockroaches in my face, so I don't want to fight
you there. That would have freaked me out. Um, I
don't know, really, I mean, all the characters seem so fun,
you know what I mean. I don't know, but I
like playing the villain. I kind of wouldn't trade her. Yeah,
that Danny, it was like grazed you. So we could

(56:28):
have had a redemption story, you know, No, right, no,
But that was lambed in the face. Then I got
you know, with the champagne bottle, and then I came
up again and then I got shot. So it was
like so many times, so dead, so dead. Cornfield was
a nightmare. Oh I know it was. And then I'll

(56:49):
never remember, I'll never forget. I had the TV on
in the other room and I heard um from the
soup that showed the soup that used to be on it.
I heard coming up, there's a crazy nanny in Tonna
just won't die. And I was like, oh, it was
me like this running through the cornfields with a syringe.
And I was like, oh no, you made it, baby

(57:09):
made it. Thank you so much. That's awesome opening to
the show when they had all of this all glossy
and they gloss that out like that. Do you remember
which the original opening to One Tree Hill we all
had to fade don't away like soft Instagram? Does that now?
Hard paths? You know? Fi Sparker filter? What's our next question?

(57:34):
Our next question is from Danny. Hi, Danny, what's up?
How are you? Are? Pretty good? You're my wife Tara
ten year wedding anniversary anniversary There she is the real

(57:55):
quick on the production accounting us. Engaged obviously over ten
years ago. I got a phone call to do a
job what no iron Man three what all that stuff,
and it basically told her I'm like, hey, I got
a job offer and she's like, oh no. I'm like

(58:15):
we have to leave and she's like, oh no. I'm
like it's for Iron Man three. She's like, where is it?
So will meet to North Carolina. She's like, let's go. Yes,
yeah that where's my dude. We're working on it. Your
Asian answer, My question is with the craziness of the

(58:37):
industry and the work and how do you balance work
relationships with family relationships? Great question. Yeah, I mean our
families will know each other. Yeah, they do. Our families
also just you sign up for the circus, you know,
that's what we do. So I think that's that's a
part of it. You have to sort of know what
you're getting into. We're raising kids in an environment where

(59:00):
it's the location of their where they're going to grow up.
Isn't always going to be stable. Um Our presence is
you know, in and out. But like for example, my
daughter who's eleven, Um, it's hard for her when I
go away, for if I'm shooting a movie, you know,
three weeks at a time, or like this even just
seven days. But she knows that when I'm home, she

(59:20):
actually gets me for a lot more time than like
most kids whose parents are working nine to five jobs
because I'm home all day and especially even during the pandemic,
I was with her all day. Well, I guess everybody
was with their kids all day, so never mind, forget.
I said that was a stupid thing to say, but
you know what I mean. Um, yeah, so there is
gonna be an element of unpredictability, uh, with your schedule,

(59:43):
And I think I don't know. For me, it's just
a matter of kind of knowing what you're what you're
in for. Yeah, honestly, Like we've known Maria her entire life. Yeah,
she knows you guys. You guys have known my kids
their entire life. When George was like my daughter when
she was like three months old, Paul wasn't down filming
and like held her and rocked her at a restaurant,

(01:00:03):
you know. And so you make your your work family
your family family. And it's so nice. And my husband
got home from work the other day when we finished
our New York shows and took a nap, and when
he woke up, Robert Buckley's on the couch and he
was like, Hi, my man, how are you? You know,
Like that's a weird thing to wake up to. But
when you marry a one tree Hiller, you have to

(01:00:26):
understand when you wake up, there will be another one
tree Hillery. That's just it. Yeah. I mean my husband
texted me earlier and I was like, how are your wives?
And I was like, hey, no, it's great, and this
is why it works. That's right. How's it? I mean,
you're raising a son who is the same age as
my daughter. What's what's it like balancing that out when

(01:00:48):
you have to go away on location and things. Shoot, uh, well,
my son's like go you know, see when you come back.
He's not clingy. I don't know. He's just as you

(01:01:09):
and you're not being does because he doesn't have to
do his homework. But you know he's not. He's not
you know. I love that. I love independence, but I
think that's part of it. Our kids are growing up
with a sense of independence and they're learning how to
work it. That's what they're learning how to do. They're like, oh,
you were out of town so I couldn't possibly do
my homework. It's probably why so many show kids go

(01:01:33):
into showbiz who have parents who are in showbiz. But relationships,
I'm done. But like the boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife is
different than the kids. Things totally different animal to handle
because you need to be connected. I also think it's really, look,
everybody has a complicated life. We don't. It's not like

(01:01:56):
the twenties anymore, where people live where they grew up
and married. Everybody married somebody from high school and whatever.
It's like, we're the most mobile, digitally connected global generation
in history, right, And that's not unique to our industry.
I think what can be tricky about our industry is

(01:02:17):
they don't care what your life is. And you know
that you get a job and you have to go,
and if you can't go or don't want to go,
there's a thousand other people who want your job. And
I think what becomes incredibly important, but I believe this
to be universally true, is that you have to cultivate
a community that sees you and roots for you, so

(01:02:38):
that when you're gone and you're on a night shoot
at some location that's only available on a Saturday, so
you're missing somebody's wedding or a holiday or a birthday, which,
if you want to be a working actor, is going
to be your life. Your friends are proud of you,
and they will make themselves available when you're home, and

(01:02:59):
you also become, as we all are, people who really
learn how to travel well. I am a professional traveler
because something is happening, I will pretzel myself to be there.
And we do that for each other now. And people
who don't like it, don't like you're on a journey exactly.

(01:03:24):
Get ways. We're very transient people. We just go, go, go,
you know. So you get good at communicating and you
show up when you can, and then you find people
who look at you and say that that's enough and
that's the only way it works, and then you just
make the sacrifices that you need to make. Sometimes you
turn the job down because your kid needs you to
be home, so you just do it, you know. But

(01:03:45):
it's a case by case basis. Hey, thanks for working
in the business. Yeah, well, going to the circuit. Hey,
what's our next question? I see someone rocking a baby
back there? Hold on, baby, can you pass that person

(01:04:06):
in microphone? Because can you pass that baby up here?
I would really like to know what's going on? Is
that the youngest one Tree Hill fan? Yeah? He's ten months? Oh,
my baby's name high Caden. Is he team Broker Team Peyton?
He better be Team Clean? I mean, don't all who

(01:04:30):
are you here with? And why are you rocking the baby?
Just just meeting him. Yeah? Really? Are you a one
Tree Hill fan? Yeah? I'm a baby fan. Are you
to your name? Cat and dad? What because his jersey
on and everything? Who's your favorite actor on the show?
I like all of you, but yeah we do too. Yeah. Well,

(01:04:57):
we appreciate you being here, and we've brought our kids
to set over the years, and so I just saw
you rocking a baby back there, and I wanted to
let you know that we appreciate that you're bringing in
a new generation. Thank you. Sorry to put you on
the spot. Who do we up next? I don't have
to put on the spot. Our last question of the

(01:05:18):
night is going to be from Jamie and Andrea. Hi. Girls, Hi,
I'm the Andrea part of Jamie Andrea. Um I we
have two questions. So the first one is I was
listening to the podcast on my way home from work
last night. It was like, I don't know if I hallucinated,
but did you guys want us to dress up like villains? Yes?

(01:05:42):
Yes you. I thought we were all alone. So I
scrambled last minute for a costume and we dressed it
is this descendance? What villains are you? We just came
as Wednesday Okay, can I tell you that I saw
you earlier in the show and I was like, there's
Catholic schoolgirls here or or none? So I'm from Lancaster

(01:06:06):
and I was like, do you think yes? So, I
mean were either like they're gonna think for Amish or
Catholic girls. Funday Adams, So glad you got thank you. Yeah,
But our real question is, so girl to girl doesn't
have to be yours? But what was your favorite kiss
on the show? Kiss? That's a juicy question. You mean

(01:06:32):
other than when I kissed Hilary whatever? Oh no, I
feel like I kissed everyone. Yeah, I'm trying to think
of like big epic kisses. I mean, who had big
epics so epic that the song kept coming back for

(01:06:56):
like nine seasons? What was that song? Why does it?
It's like I like, like, I bet you can't close
stay still like I've I've said, Um, but by the way,
you guys had like a dozen epic kiss we did?
We did? I have two favorite kisses for two different reasons,

(01:07:18):
between Nathan and Haley. Um, there were other kisses on
the show that were fun. Um. I think Uh. Even
though Karen and Keith we've talked about we were like, oh,
debated about the chemistry and all that, but they're the
first time they ever kissed. Was it was magical to me.
I was like, wow, this is finally happening. Oh my gosh. Um.
But Nathan Haley's first kiss ever of course, which was

(01:07:42):
like and I've married a shoot because the rain was
like pelting into our eyes and it was all fake rain,
and so it was just like cold, and my hair
was a mess, and like James was still seventeen I think,
or maybe it just turned eighteen, and so I was
a little bit like is this okay? Well, and he's
so tall that you have to look up the rain

(01:08:05):
towers and just be blind. Yeah, so everything I'm saying,
I'm just like blank. Um, And you know, we just
sort of like mashed our faces together and hoped that
we like found each other because we couldn't really open
our eyes in the rain. So I was I really
hope we land this. It was just awkward and weird,
but it looked so good when it finally happened. I

(01:08:27):
was like, you know, I was there, um, And then
there was one and I think it's season seven. Maybe
I don't know why. I think seven but we're making out.
It's like dream sequence and were in the kitchen. It
starts raining in the kitchen. Is that seven? Um? I
don't know how it looked, but we were drinking moonshine

(01:08:50):
and it was really fun. It was to share. It
was day. Somebody busting out one of those little water
bottles full of moonshine and we were like, we're gonna
be here all night. Let's make it on moonshine. It's acting,
it's method, don't make it weird. My favorite was the

(01:09:12):
state championship with Pat Yes. Chad and I felt so
much pressure because there was like a thousand extras we
were we were told we're going to shoot confetti, we
get one take, there's a crane shot, and it literally
was scripted as the best kiss ever. It was scripted

(01:09:35):
as best period kiss, period ever, period and we're like
one take, Okay, we know we're gonna do it. We're
gonna go for We're gonna go for it. And you know,
we were buddies and there were no like feelings like
that in real life. But i'm gonna tell you that
kiss was like, hey boss, great chop, you're going to work. Yeah,

(01:10:02):
that kiss was fun that was a winner? What was
your winner? It's very funny because when you started talking
about when it works, because sometimes you don't know if
you're gonna have chemistry with like one of your friends
or stranger at the time, a stranger, and I was like, Yeah,

(01:10:24):
it's cool when it works. And then immediately I flashed
to the person who will forever remain nameless who bit
me the first time, and I was like, Oh, this
is not working and I'm gonna punch you in the face. Um,
that was not my favorite. The most memorable, Um, you know,
what felt really sweet was Hammer by the way stop,

(01:10:48):
Oh my sweet Moments night though. Um it was what
I liked about it was that it isn't scripted to
be this way. But in later seasons, when you know,
Brook and Julian are together and they've gone through Mike,

(01:11:09):
it was so good. And they've gone through this whole
struggle to figure out whether or not they're going to
have a family, and then they finally get pregnant. And
I've been hearing from so many women who were struggling
with similar, you know, obviously unique but similar experiences in
their lives, and I was just like, God, this is like,
this is big and I've had friends who had gone

(01:11:31):
through it, and um, when we shot the scene where
you know I'm in, I think I'm in like a
red dress or something, and right it's like red with
white right right, okay, and we only hairstyles. I remember
the dress and you know, Brooke looks at Julian and
tells them that they're pregnant. And it felt so important

(01:11:55):
to me knowing like who I was carrying into the
scene with me that I started crying and then Austin
started crying and we were both just like sobbing, and
we kissed each other and we were like what the
was that? But it was like so it was like
so special, um, because we felt like we were really

(01:12:16):
honoring people. And I saw it on screen and I
was like it, hits, It's really sweet. I like you
so much. Did you kiss anyone other than Nathan? Are
you going to say Nathan? Right? Okay, she'll fight you. Well,
here's the thing. I remember that hair poll. I'm not
coming near her, okays. I like my hair staying on
my head, Thank you very much. No, I mean I

(01:12:40):
can't say Nathan because that was not a consensual kiss.
I forced myself upon him. God bless you. That is important.
That is very important, and Nanny Carey did not adhere
to that. So yeah, yeah, we're learning Dan. We're gonna
end with you was Dan's Odd's favorite kiss. Why would

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listen to what's your favorite pressure out? I'm feeling very
pressured right now. Well, ill, let me let me let
me just say this seems to be very important to
you guys to get it right. Listen, They've got through
those tall boys of white cloth. I have a I
had a big um a towel filled with ice in

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it in my dressing room waiting for me when I
got back, and I had held it against my head
and I was holding it in it was just to
keep the swelling down because I had just done maybe
my one of my favorite moments ever in acting. Um
it was it was a flashback to a dream sequence
is she kind of thing where I was a villain

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in the old days in the nine And I leaned
in and I gave and I did a lot of
research on the person I was going to work with
in this scene. I did a lot of research and
spent years fantasizing about this tell us. So I had,

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like you know. Little does she know that in my
at home, in my bedroom, or millions of her soap
opera pictures of her from her soap opera days. Anyway,
it was Joy and she um. Now we did five takes.
We got in the first one, but we needed another take.

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But after every kiss, there was this method actor that
decided that a full slap across the face was needed.
I didn't do it. He was like, I can take it.
Do I look like a sissy? Come on, I can
take cool little kiss food Anyway, Yeah, anyway, it was

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it was as you but I will tell you I
really did. I really did feel that they didn't really write.
Karen and I never had a real kiss. I kissed
it once and because but there was no real kiss.
But Deb and I didn't even really they didn't really
write for me in a way that ever gave me
that opportunity to kind of explore why did she marry Dan?

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Why didn't Deb marry Dan? It was never put out
there to go there's a side him that they fell
in love with, So I wish that they would have
kind of covered a little bit of like, because even
people did break your heart or hurt you whatever, there's
a reason you're with them, right, And I wanted to
explore that as an actor, as a character, I didn't
really get that opportunity. I'm not putting anybody down to
complicated show with lots of characters, and wasn't really time.
But I think it would have been interesting to see

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why they fell in love with him. That makes sense.
I love that you guys are rooting for that. You're
just like taxic, gimme more. I love it. How can
Dan never have like a little girlfriend, Well, Rachel, I

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got out of jail and I had a little girlfriend
in the hotel I got I married Rachel. You know
there was a lot. I had a side. Hey, yeah,
a little side. But I never kissed Rachel and Da
we never had a kiss on the show. No, Yeah,
they really never let Dan explore a romantic side. Not

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really should have had like a girlfriend named Kimberly who
was twenty six and like piss deb and Moira off.
You know, like that would have been a fun storyline.
Twin Peaks experience, we're in an alternate universe. Dan Scott
is a hopeless romantic Yeah. The spin off, well in Heaven,
I guess because I'm dead, So it has to be.

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The spinoff has to be all the ghosts like you
guys are somewhere in the afterli the GHO you end
up with Danny Carey. She's like, Phil, we love you guys,
thank you for making our last show on this tour

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so special. Truly the podcast family. Oh yes, tattoos, Oh
my god, I love you. So She's like, I got
a gun in my purse. We're gonna do. That's what
we're gonna do. We're going to have people say tattoos
on three and be on the podcast. Are you ready? One? Two, three?

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