Nathan’s Gone, Chris Keller’s Back • Ep 905

Nathan’s missing, Haley’s panicking, and Tyler Hilton joins the gang to break it all down. Tyler recalls awkward on-screen kisses and why rewatching made him nervous, Sophia and Joy reflect on Chris Keller’s chaos and Dan’s presence, and Rob doubles down on his “Dan did it” theory. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 4 (00:26):
For those of you just joining in. So far, we
have decided that if Dan Scott was a drag queen,
his name would be Lucy Furr. And so is exhausted
and misread the synopsis in a hilarious way. So do
you want to take a crack at it and give
us the rundown, redeem.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Yourself and see if I can do it right?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, hey, guys, I'm an adult who can read. We
are here today with season nine, Episode five, The Killing Moon.
This originally aired February eighth, twenty twelve, and Oh boy,
is it a doozy. Nathan is missing and Haley fears
the worst. As Quinn distracts Jamie, Haley searches for Nathan.

(01:09):
Clay finally gets answers about his condition. Meanwhile, Julian attempts
to get back to a normal life, while Brooke and
Millicent try to give Tara a chance. Do we I
don't know. This was directed by our very own Greg
Prange and written by the wonderful SHANEA Fuel. Woo yay
and tell him what they've won. Friends, Because it's not

(01:32):
just the three of us talking about today's episode, is it.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
No, it's not. It's one of my all time most
favorite humans. Tyler Elizabeth Marie Hilton, old name.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
I so very hit hear it all together.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Welcome Tyler, Thank you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
I was wondering if if after Rob said that, you
were going to say, Chris Keller likes it.

Speaker 7 (01:55):
Oh man, Tyler Elizabeth Many Hilton likes it.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Could you imagine if we were like, what do you
think you learned about yourself from the show, and you
were like, I also like to talk in the third person.

Speaker 7 (02:10):
Tyler Hilton thought it was a great episode, and Tyler
Hilton especially like Tyler Hilton's work in the episode.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Have any of you known someone that speaks about himself
in the third person for real in real life?

Speaker 6 (02:22):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:23):
An ironically no, but I actually see it happens a
lot on reality television, not surprising. Wait what yeah, are
you kidding me?

Speaker 7 (02:31):
You guys, what do you mean like the situation? I
think he did that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Maybe, Yeah, it's like every other season on Survivor there
is someone who talks in the third person. Yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
It's really I keep trying to, you know, as an actor,
when I see strange behavior, I try and do it
so I can see what it feels like in my body,
Like why would someone would motivate someone to do that?

Speaker 7 (02:51):
Like?

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Why what does that feel like? It's so strange. I
can't wrap my brain around, Like I'm having the empathy
part of me is having a hard time understanding what
would motivate someone to do that? I really can't. I
can't grasp it.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
I just feel like it would make me very uncomfortable.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
For only two people have ever really pulled it off,
and that is the dude from Big Lebowski, the Dude
and you as Chris Keller.

Speaker 7 (03:18):
Yeah, you are making me wonder for the first time
of Chris Keller isn't his real name? Because it's only
the kind of thing you can only do with not
your birth name, you know.

Speaker 6 (03:29):
Like the dude in the situation your brand.

Speaker 7 (03:33):
Yeah, like what if his name is like Ryan, you
know whatever, but like he'd like one day.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
He woke up, he's like, it's Chris Keller, bitches or
whatever you're not.

Speaker 7 (03:42):
But I don't know if you can do that with
the name your parents give you a birth that's really strange.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
That's yeah, there's got to be either like sociopath. Yeah,
it's like dissociative behavior, or it's not your real name.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
Yeah, yes, yes, yeah, where.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
You speak about yourself almost.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
Like when they do like a Young Eldon Young Chris
Keller spin off.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
We'll figure out the backstory there.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Why does that not exist? Pitch it now? Tyler Hilton
pitched that right now.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
The fact that they did not do that with Michael
May as soon as our show is crazy.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
We're all just quiet imagining it now. I'm like drifting
off into the.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, let's jump into the episode.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yeah, lots lotson to love about this episode.

Speaker 7 (04:35):
I thought, yes, and you know, it's not weird for
you guys to be watching the show. But I have
to say, first of all, it is so weird for
me to be watching the show again. Like last time,
I was gone. Don the quains.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
Yes, I didn't watch the episode. I just came in
and be like, hey, hey, what I was.

Speaker 7 (04:51):
I haven't told Brabo was like, I am really having
resistance to pushing play here because like, I don't even
know if I watched the episode at the time.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
I read the scripts. We saw blah blah blah.

Speaker 7 (05:02):
See.

Speaker 6 (05:02):
Yeah, but I don't know.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
If I've ever even watched a full episode of the
show start to do.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
I don't know, I don't remember.

Speaker 7 (05:10):
And I was really nervous watching it because that was
just like really.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (05:18):
Maybe you guys have to think back to like starting
the podcast, like I don't know, I was it weird
for you to watch even the first season, because like.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
I was gonna mention seasons then now, yeah, like I
can relate to what you're saying because you haven't been
doing this with us for the whole time. But for sure,
when things started, I was definitely nervous to push play.
There were a lot of times I was like, I
know what's happening in the next episode. I don't want
to watch myself. I know what was happening in my life.
When we were shooting the next episode, I don't want
to watch this.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, there's a lot.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
And by the way, most of us had not seen well,
none of us had seen the whole show in its entirety,
because we just didn't. We were working on it, we
just weren't watching it. So yeah, you join the club,
You're you're right in good company.

Speaker 7 (05:57):
A few times in the beginning, I remember we would
have viewing parties at your house, so via, but they
would we would all watch the first scene and then
we'd all just be talking and partying.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
After that.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
We never watched anything, sounds like I was.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
I watched it in a tour van.

Speaker 7 (06:13):
We were just on tour last week and we were
all watching it as a band, and it was like
easier for me to but I was just like, oh
my god, I can't sit in a room by myself
and just be watching this. This is too uncomfortable. It's
but anyway, it was really fun.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
I loved it.

Speaker 7 (06:26):
It was actually so cool seeing you guys and fun
reliving it. But I did have it was so nerve wracking,
but really fun.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
How was it for you? Because for us, it was
always so fun when Chris Keller would come back a
because obviously we've all been friends for one hundred years
and be because you were always such a delight to
add into the story, Like you got to be a
chaos goblin in the best way, I think, especially in
season nine. But what was it like for you to

(06:57):
have these majorly important story lines and then you know,
go be Tyler Hilton, go make music, go live your life,
and then come back into the show. Did it always
feel easy to come.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
Back or with it was weird? That's such a good question.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
And in the beginning, I was nervous because I was
like trying to get myself going, like I wanted people
to know who I was, and I didn't have I
didn't have a lot of name recognition, so I was
new to everything and people would stop me in airports
all the time and be like, I hate you, I
hate that you're breaking up naked, and I almost trying
to promote my first record, I was like, Wow, doing

(07:30):
the show was a huge mistake, Like I'm trying to
like get something going here, and it's like I'm getting
known for this whole other thing. And so there was
like a lot of like but I was having so
much fun doing it. By the time I came back
for seven nine. I feel like I had been I'd
done so many other things, had been doing music for
so long, and felt like this thing. It shows people
loved Chris Keller by that point, you know, they were

(07:52):
like they got what was going on, and they understood, like,
there's no threat here. Yeah, just a hilarious little that's
buzzing around. He's harmless. And so then everyone could just
relax and like him, you know, or something.

Speaker 6 (08:06):
And so then by the.

Speaker 7 (08:07):
Time I came back to Steve than nine, I was like, oh,
game on, Like I get what's going on. I get
what the deal is, and this is gonna be so
fun and I know, like qualms leading all the way
into it and having so much fun. I'm so glad
I got that second time around with him because it
was a blast.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
You know. But yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I'm so happy. You look like you're having a ball.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Either you're having less fun in this episode. Rob's not
really fun either, but Chris Kelly is having a great time.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
And to be clear, my pause at the start of
the episode, yeah, I was gonna say I wasn't pausing
because I didn't like the episode. I was pausing because
my first note is about Dan just being off the
charts shady and how it.

Speaker 8 (08:54):
Is he's he's being so egregiously shifty that it almost
makes me wonder if, like I was, maybe I still
think he's behind the Nathan thing.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
But it's like it's so heavy handed some of the
stuff with Haley, and I was like, what is he
even trying to hide it?

Speaker 5 (09:13):
Like what his choice? Like Paul? We know Paul so
intentional about his choices, so there has to be a reason.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah. For example, the first scene we see Haley's getting
the babies or if she's feeding lydia. And it was
made clear in the previous episode that Dan knows that
Nathan is getting home that night because they have that
exchange when he's like, I'll leave when he gets here.
So the fact that he wakes up the next morning

(09:40):
and by breakfast time there is still no Nathan, and
his question too is just is everything all right?

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (09:49):
To me, it's like, no, you know your son should
be there by then, So it seemed like you were
being intentionally obtuse or just like I you know, like clueless.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah, I guess I assumed that she probably would have
just told him like the yeah, he didn't. I think
he took a later flight or something, but he should
have had some kind of follow up question. It's strange.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, even if he had opened the episode with do
you know if Nathan got on a later flight? Yeah,
it would have tracked a story. What's interesting to me
about what you're saying and I'm so curious about your experience.
Sorry to jump to the end, but in that sequence
with Haley and Dan in the kitchen where he is

(10:32):
so it's like he is the guy right before he
kills the person in every scary movie, and it's like,
do you think that they that they said to Paul,
we need you to seem guilty at this point. We
need to give Haley a reason to suspect you, and
then you get to be a hero. Like I almost

(10:54):
wonder if he was instructed or if the idea, you know,
among him, the writers and everyone was to almost have
him overplay the bad guy to misdirect the audience. Yes
that I think it's really he gave me the creepy
creepies holding your shoulder. I didn't like it.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Well, it had to be scary enough for Haley to think,
I've got to pretend my way out of this situation
and get away from him. Yeah, like that had to
be there had to be motive for her, like a
real threat. There a real threat. So and Dan has
seemed the only other times I've seen Dan desperate as

(11:36):
Haley was it was a it was a desperation that
was pleading to be understood. And this was a desperation.
There was like an anger in it. There was like
a it didn't feel like a poor me desperation, which

(11:59):
is how Dan usually plays it. So there was because
there was something so aggressive about it that I think
that gave Haley the motivation to go. So I think
you're right there. There probably was some kind of push
to like more and more and more. You've just got
to make it so intense and I don't.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Know, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
I mean it was scary. I wish I had watched
it twice because it did. Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Rob,
I can see you want to say something and I'm fumbling.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Well, it just it felt like the world's least enthusiastic gaslighting, where.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
The situation record actually the situation.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
At hand is actually so serious, and the fact that
he's a convincing you you're crazy, but then also doing
it just like he's just worked a twelve hour shift.
He's like, Hey, it's fine, You're it's fine, you're being creative.
It was that was odd to me, Like, I feel like,
if you are going to get like it just it
just didn't match, Like the energy didn't match the stakes

(13:03):
and the severity of the scene. I thought, that's why
I was. I was very confused. That's actually kind of
to me. What made it more menacing was the fact
that he wasn't really trying to plead. He was just like,
I'm just gonna say this and hopefully you know, to
just accept it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Heyy, just let me explain. Let me explain. It felt
like he was trying to say, like you don't understand,
like I'm basically I'm trying to build a relationship. I
had to get in the door the moment that he
gave me the baseball in the picture, he was vulnerable
and it was my only chance to have a relationship
with my son, and like, don't you understand. I mean,
that's those are the words coming out of his mouth.

(13:42):
But the energy, like everything about what he was saying
wasn't what he usually does, which is the shrink back,
Like can't you see, like just feel bad for me,
Please feel bad for me. It was aggressive.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, well, but to your point, when the script delivered,
everyone got to the last page and read Haley calls
nine one one and says, there is a murderer in
my house. So if that has to be the end
of the script, you have to reverse engineer Yeah, the
whole episode to make that choice make sense. So you're right.

(14:16):
I bet it was the sort of thing where, because
that had to happen, Paul had to make choices that
were atypical and were threatening and were things that could
cause that reaction for you as an actor to genuinely
in a scene with him, feel afraid enough to call

(14:38):
nine one one.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Yeah, I don't think Haley's ever felt afraid with Dan.
I'm trying to think back to their interactions over the years,
and she's disliked him intensely, She's hated him, She's been
grateful to him, she's been appreciative of the fact that
he is a dangerous man because it worked to her
advantage when it rescued her son and when it helped
Nathan with the Renee situation, and when I don't know.

(15:01):
I feel like there's a lot of those scenarios where
like the things she hates the most about him also
rescued her in certain situations and people she loves. So
it's a very complex, disturbing dynamic. But I don't think
she's ever actually been afraid of him, like her own
safety with him. That was the first time ever.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Okay, strap on your tinfoil hats with me for a second.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
I agree. I agree with you. So if to me
what they asked Dan to do this episode was so
heavy handed and kind of out of character that it
did feel to me like this is the intentional misdirect.
We're gonna make him look so guilty so that everyone
understands that way, there's a twist. Here's what I think
is actually gonna happen. I think it's too mister Rex, right.

(16:01):
I think there's this obvious one we're seeing right now,
but I still think Dan is behind it. So for
me going forward, my belief is I am waiting to
have the Dan Scott didn't do this, or that Dan
Scott was behind the kidnapping be disproved.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Does that make sense that I was waitingroved.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
I am exactly. My thesis going into the rest of
the season is that Dan Scott is the actual perpetrator
behind Nathan's kidnapping, and now I am I am still
on board, even though I know we're about to see
some flip and that it was a business understanding. I
think that is the writer's room being clever, and I
am still I still think that that is the thing,
and so I am I am until it has disproven

(16:42):
for me very clearly. I still think many.

Speaker 7 (16:46):
Do you guys know what happened to the end, because
I don't remember. So I'm actually living this too.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Like, no, we don't remember, no clue.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
Like four people who were on the show got the scripts,
filmed it and just forgotten that.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
I was just like, you're obviously there because there's a
there's a So so you probably you didn't see episode
nine oh one? Did you know the first episode of
season nine?

Speaker 6 (17:09):
No?

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Okay? So it opens with a with a flash forward montage.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
Oh right, that's what I'll tell you guys about that
first page that I read.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Yeah, you was just talking about this in the Q
and A that we did in the previous Yes, So
it opens with him cockying the guy I.

Speaker 7 (17:23):
Realized that was a jump forward. I was just saying,
that sounds the first page forward, right.

Speaker 9 (17:29):
Yeah, And I remember it like a crazy thing because
you're like, Chris Keller's literally there for something major and
you don't remember either, which does the rest of us
feel better because we had no clue.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
But I don't know if I'm a pawn. I can't
remember if I was a pawn in the game or
we were doing it together.

Speaker 10 (17:46):
I do I know.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
In this I appreciated the fact that when Haley's trying
to go to the police, like you sort of dropped
the Chris Keller act. You were like, no, seriously, yeah,
let me actually help you because this this is real life.
And I like to play and keep life fun and interesting,
but this is serious. Let's actually take care of this together.
I loved that. So yeah, I think he willingly walked
into this.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah, I will say scene though I was surprised because
what I thought was gonna happen was Chris is being
very mouthy to the cop, just being an absolute ass.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Okay, well, by the way, that's Steven Elliott, who was
Na James's stand in.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
But when when Chris says to Haley, Hey, give me
a beat, I'm going to talk to him. What I
one hundred percent expected to have happened was Haley walked
away and Chris turns and goes, hey, sorry, I just
had to look tough for my friend, dude, Like, like,
I expected a complete deflation, a humble thing, and the
fact that you that didn't happen it kind of made

(18:49):
me go Okay, So Chris isn't quite as smart as
I thought he was. Like, if he really was suave,
I don't think he would have hammered on the dude
for sixty seconds about being lazy and bad at his
job and then turning around and going, hey, but can
I get a favor? Can I get a favorite?

Speaker 6 (19:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (19:07):
No, I think I think that it's broad, broad movements
with him, not fine little cuts. I think he's barely
getting by on huge Chris Keller strokes wherever he goes
hoping and praying it works out.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah, he's operating with the saw, not a scalpel exactly. Yeah,
but it was still great. It was It was a
nice It was a nice scene.

Speaker 7 (19:30):
I think, uh, like like when he said that, like, sorry,
flight attendant, I know forgot about that I was like, oh, yeah,
he is out to lunch, like totally out to lunch.
Even when he's like oh my god, he's even wrong
on that, he's just.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
That'll be great, that'll help out, not even thinking.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Like help, I never maybe suld she'll be there, maybe
she'll help.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yeah, even though I never called her the next day,
of course she's still gonna help. No, she got a
chance with Chris.

Speaker 6 (20:01):
Keller living another storyline, you know.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
It's so nice though, And it's such great injection of
comedy into these moments of tension, like all you know, Joy,
all your scenes in this episode are stressed and emotional
and terrified and begging for help. And there is something
so funny about Chris being so who he is and

(20:29):
utterly ridiculous that it gives Haley just a moment to
get a breath, you know, even you just being like
I can't I can't be you need help, but you
can't believe it's got to be this guy for sure,
And it's so it's it's really refreshing as an audience
member to get the moment of levity when you're worried
for this character that you love to watch.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
It is nice putting those two together too. I was
thinking like, like, Haley's been so moral and so just
like she the total opposite of Chris. You've been steady
and true and about one thing that's been the total
opposite thing of Chris. I mean, I feel like the
other you guys have had, you know, vacillating between different things.
Hailey is just you know, she keeps song, keeping on

(21:13):
and for her to have Chris is the guy that's like,
there could not be a less Haily person, you.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
Know, to be her partners.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
It's feel like the overall overworking theme of the episode
is help. Like look people like seeking for help, and
that's sort of that's what's jumping out.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Boy, or people actively avoiding help. Looking at you, Clay,
I mean.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Wow, that really blew me away. When if you've repressed
something that's causing all this destruction in your life and
Clay is like, I don't want to know what it is.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, it was it was like going like, oh, you
have a rusty nail on your foot that's going to
give you tetanus and potently kill you. And he's like,
let's just slap a band aid on it.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Like, we're gonna be fine. It'll throw into my skin,
it's no problem.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, it'll be okay. It's it is really interesting, though, Rob,
and this is it hats off to you because rather
than make such a big deal out of what you
were being told, you were almost so pragmatic that I
was like, what's going on here? You're like, well, what

(22:27):
are my options? I don't really want to deal with this.
And when we finally get the window into Clay saying
Sarah died, I remember every minute of it. If anything's
worse than that, to the point that my brain doesn't
want to know it. I don't want to know it.
I went, oh the way trauma changes a brain, Like

(22:53):
I get what's going on here and it and it
felt like a moment where I got to understand what
was going on in Clay's world in a way that
worked so well because of how you played it. And
I know, as any of us would like, I know
you had issues with the storyline, but like you really

(23:14):
you made like a good sandwich out of this.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Oh thanks, I gotta say. I mean, the material for
the four episodes preceding this was far more confusing and
problematic for me than the therapy stuff.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
At least they finally explained fugue state.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Yes, at least they explained that. And also, as strange
as it seems to have someone be sitting in front
of a person who could help them and have and
then have Clay saying no, I actually can totally understand that.
I mean, anyone who's ever been overwhelmed knows that even
asking or being asked to add the slightest change to

(23:53):
your plate is too much. So even though it could
be advantageous from the long run, I get it. If
he's tapped out with grief or if he's just overwhelmed
in life, especially with all of this crazy stuff happening
to him. I understand him just going no, I'm going
to exist from the neck up. I'm going to be
pragmatic and I'm good. I don't have the bandwidth for that,

(24:14):
you know, So I was I welcome this. And also
because David Ronia, who plays the doctor, I had worked
with on Lipstick Jungle, so it was getting to like
work with a friend again and he was great. So
this is strange as this storyline is and is going
to become, it was a welcome reprieve for me from

(24:35):
what we were doing the last three episodes.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Yeah, I liked it.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
It also felt like we really got back a piece
of the Clay we've been missing, watching Clay and Logan
immediately bond over airplanes and all their really nerdy little
facts and the things that they're into. And I got
to see some joy on your face again, And it
felt really nice because we're watching your character want to

(25:01):
push away this experience, but we are seeing that getting
closer to himself, to whatever is going on with him
is helping. And it's like, I don't know, there was
just something really nice about watching the two of you
and you kind of even getting a little nugget of
wisdom from the kid. You know, flying is the best.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
Part I love. I know, I love you guys together.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
He's such a good actor.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Piercekagnon is his name. She had just done Looper with
Bruce Willis and Joseph Gordon. Levitt hadn't come out yet,
but he was so good and I had so much
fun working with him, and I have to say, knowing
what is to come, it's fun rewatching this and finding

(25:48):
the breadcrumbs. Yeah, so you know.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
That's something else.

Speaker 7 (25:52):
Rob and I Evan Coleman, and I ended up working
with Pierson extant with where Hillary and jefferyn also after this,
and so so it's like my little Robots for two
seasons that I worked on.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
Literally, that was the character.

Speaker 7 (26:05):
So Pearson and I were like, we're like a duo
for like two seasons on the show. And so it's
funny that it was right after he worked with Rob
that whole, and so we were so close because we
had just left Wilmington and then went on this other
show together and I didn't know him as well, but yeah,
he's like unbelievable, unbelievable actor, unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
So what is he doing now? And find out I.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Just checked in with him and I told him.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
I was like, dude, Rob and I were just talking
about you, like you and I've been hanging and we
forgot Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
Isn't he in high school?

Speaker 6 (26:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Must be we're so old.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, but he's great and I yeah. And so it
was nice to see Clay being happy with baby Lydia
because I agree with you. It's just like, let's let's
see some more colors.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
Besides, just although it did bump me that Quinn had
to come visit him, he is twenty four hours to
be in this facility to try and heal, Like, can
you not just give him a day?

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Because goes back to what we're saying last episode where
Quinn's entire existence is class just ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
But it was nice seeing him with Lydia. That was sweet.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Why why is Tara so mean?

Speaker 5 (27:14):
I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Does she have a crush on you? Why is she
so obsessed with being mean to you?

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Yeah? I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
She's the new kid on the block. You didn't steal
something from her, She poached your chef, she slanders your business,
and now she brings cockroaches like she's in a prank
war with you that you didn't even know you were in.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
She just seems to enjoy causing trouble no matter where
she goes, even with the situation with Chase and she's
cheating on her boyfriend and yeah, like yes, it's fine.
I mean, I can accept all these things about a character,
but give me a reason. I would just like to
know so it's not just two dimensional.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Just sop enjoyed. Did in watching this storyline with U, Chase, Tara,
and Chris, did either of you bump the fact that Chase,
once he discovers who Terra is, just keeps hooking up
with her.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
Yeah, yeah, scrass.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
He's done some growing recently.

Speaker 7 (28:09):
Michael May's character keeps like being like, oh, but you
know you wouldn't do that, would you?

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Like it really lays on the guilt pick, and you know,
he just goes for it. Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. Michael May is like, well
you didn't know, and he's.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Like, yeah, I love it first yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
And what would have what would have been better is
if he'd stopped it sooner, there'd been some some device
to get them in the space with you know, Michael May.
And then he did what he did, which is you
let the kid down, and he's like, screw it, I'm
going for this. Like, but it's like you you've you've

(28:50):
never not done You've apparently been sleeping with this girl
every night, so like, are we supposed to be so
shocked that you're going to do it again even though
you said.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
You wish they would have done something where it's like
every maybe she's pushing really hard and he's like, no,
stop it, leave me alone. I don't but he gives
in every time if there's some kind of thing where
he's like actively trying to avoid her, and then it
still keeps happening. At least there's some kind of conflict
he's just openly continuing on.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
It's just weird. Also, I I just have a question
because at one point, there's like the great scene, she
runs into the studio and like jumps into your lap
and he's like gotta go, And I'm like, was it
so insane for you to be like, Hi, Steven's girlfriend,
let's make.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
Out in front of your girlfriend? Oh my god, I
didn't know we were allowed to say that or not.

Speaker 7 (29:41):
It was it's worth and it was like and it
happened right from the first or second episode, and it
was just like it'd be the three of us on
set and be like action. I'd be like, sorry, buds,
it's like fine, and they like laughed about it was
like you know, but it was yeah, you know.

Speaker 6 (30:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:02):
There's actually been a few times, I think earlier in
the show, I was in bed with you and you
and Chad were together or something like.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
There's a few times where the girls I've.

Speaker 7 (30:11):
Been with, I've been in the same room with like, oh,
young person and I'm like, oh, okay, couldn't have so?

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Well?

Speaker 3 (30:19):
You also just realize our job is high school forever, yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:24):
Or like a boyfriend who's like not in state right now,
or on set you know, but.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Whatever, we're staring at me, at me.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Speaking of the terror of it all, the scene where
Brooke and Millie go over to whatever what is Arra's
cafe's name? Do we know it?

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Tree Hill Coffee?

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Okay, whatever cafe and Chase and Terror in their kind
of canoodling where she's canodling up on him, and Brook
has a line, first of all, ill and I I
love that line, And I realized Brooke recently said that
line to Victoria. You've already said that line this season

(31:08):
when you come back to your house.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
I've been saying it forever.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Oh okay, because I I just thought, oh, does it like,
did the writers realize they did this? Because yeah, you
come back to your apartment and it's when your dad
is sort of bouncing around and Victoria's sort of just
like like unloads on you, and then she starts to
talk about her sex life and your response is okay,
first of all, ew So when this happened, I was
like hilarious line. I love it, And is this becoming

(31:33):
a catchphrase?

Speaker 5 (31:34):
I guess so I love that.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
First person of all, I love it.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
I love it, Okay, I like that that she.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
Brings. I like in real life. I know the plant
had cockroaches in it, But in real life, this this
in person friend request, I think is adorable. I would
like to I would like to see more of that
in real life. I just wanted to say that I had.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
To look at what you just came out, Like, where
were we at in the social media timeline?

Speaker 5 (32:04):
It was just just happening. Oh yeah, yeah, Facebook, all
all the stuff.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
I was trying to remember if I had a BlackBerry
or iPhone at that point, like if I'd made the jump.
But I don't know where we were at because we
started the show with like razors, I think all of us, and.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
I don't know what we were using all of us
that last season, you know, but.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I had made the jump, but I feel like I
still had my BlackBerry for work, Like I didn't want
to email on my iPhone for a while, and I
don't know when that stopped.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
That was really weird.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
What I will say hit me, which I thought was
so interesting is that the early jokes about the internet,
like in person friend request, wish there was an in
person block, but like, it's so funny to me about
how new it all still was. But I realized with
that hideous note that she left on Julian's car, I

(32:54):
was like, oh, this was the comment section before there
was a comment section.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Oh yeah, yeah for sure.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Like people just say the most heinous, horrible shit and
they're like, deal with it.

Speaker 7 (33:06):
Wait, speaking of you getting upset there, Like you know
they have those rooms where you can just get out
your aggression by breaking stuff.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Rage rooms.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Rage rooms just so nuts.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
It was so trashing a restaurant, yes, you guys.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
The whole storyline with her in this episode was so
fun because I got to go on like an earlier
season Brooke tear and you know, come to eviscerate someone
being mean, except now it's you know, for you and
I and this sort of tag team good cap bad
cop of Brooke and Millie really makes me laugh. And
then we get to the end of the episode and

(33:44):
it was like I just got to go absolutely ballistic
and they were like destroy everything and I was like
everything and they said everything I said, okay, So I'm
like going through just smashing things and you know, throwing
all this stuff everywhere. And I get down the counter
and after I throw all the cake tins and whatever

(34:06):
of pastries, the next thing are all these like big
bottles of syrup. And I shove the bottles of syrup
off the counter, like behind the counter toward the coffee machine,
and they got coun and they run in and they
go not those those belong to Port City Java.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Come on, you guys.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
So I felt so bad because I broke all of
Port City Java's actual like flavored zerrup coffee.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
That's no, that is totally come on.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
That's that's that's so hard to clean up too, glasses syrup.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
Well, the fact that they that they yelled cut, why
didn't they just let you keep go? If the damage
is already done, they could at least use the footage.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I don't know. They came in and then it was like, oh,
we're going to have this. They had like the vat
of mashed potatoes. And then they put the plexi over
the camera and I got to throw it over the
lens and that was also really fun. But by then
I was like, look, mad, Look mad, I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry I did that. I broke it. I'm sorry, Okay,
I'm angry. I swear like I just remember the end

(35:07):
of that scene feeling like I wanted to die because
I destroyed their stuff. But it's all right.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
Warner Brothers has enough money. I'm sure that they replaced them.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
I bet it was cathartic for you. I mean, after
you're in your ninth year on this show, I mean,
there is a lot of stuff you have had to
swallow and hold on to quietly that I bet it
felt good as hell to crack that door open a
little bit and let some of it pour out.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Totally.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
I have to say, I thought the note. Discovering that
Tara was the one who wrote the note, felt like
it was just one step too far, because I understand
a sort of friendly rivalry competition. We both are in
the same business, we're across the street from each other.

(35:57):
So everything up to this point I can go, all right,
you're just that type of person, you know, You're like,
you like to start shit and okay, but then that one,
that move just felt so cruel and below the belt
that it I kind of had to go, Okay, wait,
who is this person, like, what's what's actually wrong with

(36:19):
this person? Because that's that's a whole different thing. It
had to.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
Justify Brooks doing that though, Like, I can't think of
any other reason why brook would have you permission in
a sense.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
To I get that. I'm just saying, it's an odd
thing for someone who doesn't even know Oh for sure
those people to be like, like, let's be honest, that's
arguably one of the very worst things you could have
happened to you as a parent. So to have some
random lob that dig at you.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
Well, that's why it's like the comment section, like Sophia's saying, like,
because it's it's just, Yeah, I guess the permission that
people feel to be able to say horrible, awful things,
you know, quote unquote anonymously, Tara was sort of giving
us a taste. I guess she's the type of person
that felt that kind felt something that was advanced in

(37:13):
a negative way for that time period that so many
people now feel as a as a daily part of
their routine.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Apparently, Yeah, it's become so common for people to just
be so hideous with people they don't know about lives
they don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Wait on the Internet, the sort of.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
My Internet is upply.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
I'm I'm on Twitter, and I haven't noticed that I
love the world Wide Web puppies and rainbow.

Speaker 7 (37:41):
I've also wondered why I haven't seen any fans wear
burn babies, not burgers or whatever.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
You just don't see that. What a crazy note that
was though it.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
Was absolutely insane.

Speaker 6 (37:52):
For like a second, I had to giggle because it
was so.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
That's exactly what Robison so And to your point, rob
now we need a reason now now it's like, okay,
so fine, that was enough motivation. We got the big
blow up of broke in the cafe, and it's a
big moment for the show. Okay, Writer's Room, you got
your thing, but I need to pay off as an
audience member. You better explain to me in the next
episode why this girl is so psychotic, Like what is

(38:20):
going on with her?

Speaker 4 (38:21):
That's exactly it is that she now needs to be
more than the girl bouncing between the two guys like
you now have to explain to us why that happened,
because I.

Speaker 7 (38:32):
Just this is why the show is so good, because
I was so nervous to watch this first episode. At
the end of the episode, I was like, I need
to know what happens next. And that's what I did
when I first got on the show and I watched
the first season, I was like, I don't know about
the show. I watched the first episode and I crushed
the first season in a weekend. And that's what the
show does. That there's something. It's like that sweet salty thing.
You need to take another bike, take another bike, like

(38:52):
I just like, and we were talking about this, I
was like, I was just thinking, I wonder if I
should watch the next episode. I can't remember what happens
if Tara and I want to.

Speaker 6 (39:00):
And that's what the show does.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yes, coming back, it's so smart.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Drama oo mommy drama.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
Ooh mommy.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Drama.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Ooh mommy.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
All that is so good.

Speaker 10 (39:13):
Good.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Back to that scene with Brooke and Milly in the
Tree Hill Cafe after Brook has the great line of
first of all, okay, first of all, I love seeing
Milli and Brook back together. I love seeing Millie not
having to take part in the sad storyline they've given
Mouth and Millie this season, so to see her getting
to do stuff with you, I was like, Oh, that's right,

(39:47):
this is that amazing actor and a phenomenal character that
we've grown to love. I adored her coming in to
have your back in Tree Hill Cafe and doing her
best singer at the end of it when you when
Brooke is really kind of coming down on her and
she says I think like I think. Brook says an
effect like I can be a bitch or something like that,

(40:08):
and Millie's line is, look up bitch in the dictionary
and you'll see Brooke and your face is kind of like.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Okayo, yeah, good, good, try good, try sweet, exactly exactly,
and then she just goes to talk and it's just
Milli's trying so hard to hit that level of rage.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
Oh god, so good. Well it's fun. I was going
to move on to h to stay in the topic
of Brooke and Julian just move into this storyline with Austin,
because you know he's continuing. I don't know, I'm not
I guess I'm a little torn between if they're pulling

(40:52):
it out too much and drawing drawing out the storyline
too much, or if this feels real like as as Dad's.
Do you guys think this is realistic?

Speaker 4 (41:02):
That's hard to say, I especially I love the way
Brooke starts off the episode. To me, that was I
just thought, like, Yeah, this is how you show up
for your person, this is being a good teammate.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
I felt that really really cool, really cool.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Here's what I would say about it. Have your grief,
totally get it. But his behavior it starts to become
self indulgent. Yeah, when you choose to go to a
bar and then you pick a fight that you know
you are just you're going into to lose, that's self
indulgent because you don't know something bad could actually happen
to you. And like, so you're doing this to punish

(41:38):
yourself and your family maybe the one who actually suffers.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
Yeah, right, Look, it would have been in the last episode.
If they had done that in the previous episode, where
it was all part of the same immediate storm, emotional storm,
I could have I guess I would have believed it more.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
But yeah, but the fact that they stretched it and
then this episode he's going from grieving and and feeling
so much shame to his shame kind of metastasizing into anger.
What frustrates me is him going and getting the shit
kicked out of himself. If he loses teeth, if his

(42:12):
ribs get broken. How's he gonna help me with too?

Speaker 5 (42:14):
Baby?

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yes, And that's the difference I think between the reality
of a situation and you know what winds up on camera.
Sometimes I like that we're not just glossing over it
too soon and not letting a man have feelings. But

(42:35):
the disregard for himself and his role as a parent
is a little hard to stomach. And it does feel like,
I don't know, it just feels like it's shifting in
this way. And maybe that's kind of the point.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Yeah, maybe they'll address it in the next episode.

Speaker 7 (42:55):
I appreciate so much the way Brooke reacted that, him
saying I need more anger towards me. It makes me
be like, no, we don't want to promote that. We
want to support the fact that she was so big
about it, you know that. You know anyway, I feel
the same way.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Well, And what I loved about the conversation they had
is that rather than be like Julian and how many
times do I have to tell you it was an
accident and dah dah da da, she starts to say, well,
here are all the things I did. Yeah, I knew
neither of us had slept I knew this, that and
the other, and in a way, without saying it, you
see him look at her like, well, that's ridiculous, and

(43:32):
she's like yeah, and it's ridiculous that you think it's
all your fault. Yeah, like it in an interesting way,
calling out the realities of having not one but two
infants and trying to juggle work and careers and all
the things, and the sleep deprivation, like it was important
to ground them back in reality, and it felt so

(43:53):
effective that then when he completely leaves reality and does
this like he's gotten hit in the bar, he's gotten
dragged in the back, his face is bloody, and then
he's asking the guy for more, I'm like, all right,
it's like a hat on a hat.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
One thing I will say about it, though, that I
actually enjoyed, And it's very interesting because I didn't pick
up on the how you were saying the note was
like the original comment section because this was the early
days of the internet, so I didn't pick up on
that when I watched it. But what I did notice
was when he it's it's the confirmation bias, right, And

(44:27):
especially as actors who are being discussed online, you can
find someone to support any idea you have about yourself, right,
And so it's very interesting to me that Austin or
that Julians, he's around me, he's around his doctor, he's
around Brooks, and all these people being like, you're human,
cut yourself some slack, give yourself some grace. And then

(44:47):
the one random anonymous note from a stranger, he goes,
you see, I knew it. None of you were telling me.
And I as I watched, I went, oh, my god,
this is the internet because this is a thing, right member.
When there was an IMDb a message board, I could
read forty comments about myself and I will only remember
the one that rips on.

Speaker 7 (45:10):
Right.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
I know it.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
I do have weird eyebrows or like whatever, and I
was like, oh, this is this is what's happening with him?
Like that confirmation maass is so strong. So that was
the one thing I will say that I I I
agree it wasn't a smart move as a responsible father,
but I thought justified, you know that him going to
that length.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I liked that too, because it's such a human instinct.
And if that felt so grounded, I guess it was
just how far they took the fight. Yeah, you know,
I was like, man, this is pretty gnarly.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
I do want to stay in like a small defense
of his action.

Speaker 7 (45:51):
There is a small, small percentage of me And I
meant to say this earlier. That does a little bit understand.
I think when you're like frustrated because you don't know
how to punish yourself, and you're like, I just need
some repercussion, you know what I mean? And I think
as that builds and builds, I don't know when I
can't remember when we realize he got the idea, like
if he if he didn't know he was going to

(46:11):
be doing that till he got to the bar, or
if he went to the bar for that, But they're
I do, in a small, small way, not to that degree, understand,
being like, someone just punished me. I think there's some
like religions in some cultures that are like this too,
someone just punished me, so I can move on, you know.
And I think his like version of that was super intense,
but also like and he took it too far. But

(46:35):
I think guilt is funny like that.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
Yeah, we were talking about this in a previous episode too,
that there's there's no particular like linear course to grief
it just sort of does what it does. And you know,
you think about parents who's like, one child dies and
the parent often will go through a season that hopefully

(46:59):
is short but could last for a very long time
where they feel they're they're spending so much time punishing
themselves that their other kid kind of grows up going like,
well I'm still here too, you know, and the and
the spouse is saying, well, hey, I still need help,
but they can't stop punishing themselves, so they end up
checking out of the other lives in their life, which

(47:21):
is a very real thing that happens. So, I mean,
I do appreciate that it's it's interesting that it's being explored.
Maybe there was just something about the way, like the
fact that it's being drawn out in this way. I
don't know, there's something that rang untrue. But also I
really get it.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Okay, yes, and thank you, because that makes me realize
I should I should clarify my my sort of earlier
observation about how far it goes. I think what it
is is, I absolutely get the kind of manic behavior.
The grieving isn't helping, The shame is getting worse now,
it's turning into anger. Which is such a such a

(48:00):
stage of grief. Right, But I think what it is,
it's not that it doesn't feel rooted. Austin did a
beautiful job of showing that. It's that I think it
was a poor choice in either you know, the final
pass of the approved script, which those decisions always came
from the top, or or the choice rather than to

(48:24):
have them keep fighting in the bar and Julian to
get thrown into something and be like is that all
you got? And then get hit again, right, it felt
the hat on the hat is the choice to move
them out to the back alley and have the fight
continue and then have him start getting kicked in the
ribs over and over again.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
Yeah, that's the part of dramas, Yeah, because the part
it feels like, Okay, now we're just trying to explain
something to the audience that they clearly already understand. That
becomes like they got it much less about Julian and
much more about writers not understanding their audience.

Speaker 7 (48:59):
Isn't elegence and the kids all totally you're right, like,
you know, maybe get a hit in the face a little,
you know, it's like the kid you know.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Yeah, like what I would have loved. He gets hit
down on the ground, cut back to the guy just
finishing punching him, picking him up and slamming him into
the wall. Maybe they break like one of those bar
wall mirror you know that has some beer on it. Whatever.
And then, as Julian says, is that all you got?
Like if the bartender had tried to pull that guy

(49:29):
off of him and he got one more shot straight
in his nose or whatever, it would have been so
effective and the escalation would have meant more to us
as an audience because you'd be scared that he was
going to get hurt. When they wind up in the
back alley, you're going, wait, how long is this? And
it takes you out of Yeah, it takes you out

(49:49):
of the scene. And then it doesn't feel real. It
feels like we're trying to do like a dirty, hairy
moment and it's like it doesn't.

Speaker 7 (49:55):
Feel was like, thank you pated the guy and there's
older and walked down the bar, and I was like, I.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Would have saved a location move as well. Feel me, guys, smart.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
With the money, smart with the writing.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
I would argue that Julian put the baby and about
as much danger as the doctor and that hospital scene did.
When she sets a one year old on top of
the patient table and then proceeds to turn her back
on the child and talk to Julian.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
I was horrified. I just thought I missed something like
I'm sure there's a hand something.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Do you know how many parents are behind or in
the cast and crew. I couldn't believe that no one went, hey, whoa, whoa,
someone tell her she needs to keep an arm on
that baby.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
Yeah, especially because that was Rick Clark's baby.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
That's right, So I would I would in that moment.
The doctor was every bit as reckless as poor Julian.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Well, and when she close up writing the prescription, that
takes two hands, and then it had to be like,
there's so much in the episode that's so good. And
then they made that poor woman with a straight face,
say you should fill this prescription immediately, and it says
one day of rest and relaxation.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
I was like, can I also tell you, as a
parent who's frequently tired, there's one thing, especially when we
were really going through, when the kiddos just weren't sleeping,
there's one thing. I got so tired of hearing it
was people telling me, you know what, you should just
like sleep in. You should get some rest. Bitch. Do
you think I am choosing to go play pickleball as

(51:49):
opposed to like, no, I am surviving. I don't have
three hours in the day that I can be resting.
It's a full time gig man. So that's why she's like,
you should just take a day out off. What what
do you not get about one year old twins?

Speaker 7 (52:04):
Oh my gosh, yeah, you know. I always did want twins.
I always thought that'd be really cool. But there was
something about watching this episode that made me realize, like
everyone always shakes their head up and goes, no, man,
it's crazy, but I always thought it'd be fun, but
it would be tough, would be really tough.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
I told Jenny I really wanted twins, and she said,
you have no idea what you're asking for. And then
we had our son, and I realized I was in
so over my head that I can't even fathom what
two At the same time as a first time dad.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Would have been like, yeah, I am I am the
most I mean, I am in awe of all of
our friends. But like when I tell you, there are
moments where I just out of the nowhere go like God,
Brian Greenberg and Jamie they just did two. They did it.
They did like I just think about them and how crazy.
Oh yeah, there was a point I went I went

(52:57):
over there before the boys were a year old. I
was like over there to visit them one day and
I just had this moment where I was like, I
don't really have anything to do like this early evening,
do like a hand with Bath. And they both were
like what. I was like, I'll stay and like they
never would have asked. Friend, you are as as hard

(53:21):
as it is to navigate an infant. Then when there's
two of them slippery, it's like one is one and
like and then two is like eight of them. It
was so scary.

Speaker 7 (53:33):
It's like I need to clan you, grip you while
my hands are soapy, and hope that you don't drown
like bath. Yeah, and like bent over and then also
like scrubbing and getting something done to It's scary.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
Did we talk yet about the look on Austin's face
when she hands him that prescription. No.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
I talked about the fact that that poor woman was
asked with a straight face to do.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
Beautiful The look he gave her was exactly the look
that I had on my face when she handed it
to him. I was like, come on, get real.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
And and also I would say, arguably the in a
lot happens in this episode, Arguably the most unrealistic moment
is a doctor taking extra time to write a tongue
in cheek prescription. Doctors are perpetually spread too thin and overworked.
Like you, you'll walk in and be like, yes, probably

(54:31):
Tom's slidest here the thing. Bye. This doctor's like, I'm
going to I'm gonna make it funny. Hold on, let
me write it down, as.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
With the serial numbers, because they're so important that they
they're trying to make sure they're not counterfeited. And she's like,
let me just give you.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
The scene with between Quinn and Dan when they're at
Clay's house, Jamie's swimming, and it was so lovely. But
I really appreciated the moment when Quinn says to him,
you know you did. He goes, he goes, how's your
boyfriend doing? She goes, he's he's getting help. And there's

(55:15):
a beat and she goes, you know you didn't need
to drown Clay And then perfect Dan Way, Paul just
goes it worked last time, and Quick kind of goes,
yeah that sounds right. Yeah, but I just I loved
that exchange in the two of them. That was we
got to see a couple of fun dynamics of characters

(55:36):
interacting that we don't get to see often. This episode
and all of them were fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Yeah, it definitely works.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
Is barbarall and Woods in this season? Where I was like,
where is she?

Speaker 5 (55:48):
Think she is? I feel like she's not? No debt, No,
I know, there's so many moments that we really missed
her with a wish, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Who likes that? That is correct?

Speaker 5 (56:05):
I know, I really wish we'd had Barbara. We needed
some Barbara and Samoira on the on the back end here.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
Yeah, all right. We got a listener question. Laney asks,
if you were good enough to be a professional athlete,
what would be your sport?

Speaker 5 (56:32):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Soccer for me?

Speaker 7 (56:36):
Okay, you know what, I just did this Christmas movie
where I played a hockey player.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
Never played hockey in my life.

Speaker 7 (56:43):
Had so much fun with these guys, and I think
it would be hockey because these guys are like the
pirates of the athletic world.

Speaker 6 (56:51):
They're like they're like smarmy, funny, like they're hippy.

Speaker 7 (56:57):
Yeah, they're just there's something roguish about hockey players and
it's so fun.

Speaker 6 (57:04):
And I was like, oh, I didn't know this was
the vibe. I'm into it, and they go, there's something
about it. I just like loved it. I'm so charmed
by it. So hockey. I want to be around those
kind of dudes more.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
That is so funny.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
Now that you're talking about hockey. I probably would enjoy
playing hockey too.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
Are we about to remake depending edge?

Speaker 5 (57:24):
Let's do it?

Speaker 6 (57:26):
Oh my god?

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Topic I would want it to be tennis. I really
want to be a good tennis player. I enjoy it
so much, and so if I could be a pro
tennis pro, yeah, hot and a life for sure.

Speaker 7 (57:45):
Let's be old tennis players together, all of us, and
let's catch up over tennis. I haven't seen you in
so long. We got a book of time in the court.

Speaker 6 (57:52):
Catch up.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Oh yeah, we should just we should hit the court.

Speaker 7 (57:55):
Yeah, I'll call Robin Joy and we'll do doubles. I
mean you to catch up with them.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
So can we just start? Somebody needs to buy everybody's
tennis lessons for Christmas, so that we can all show
group in our neighborhoods wherever we are. But every time
we're together, somebody books a court and we can actually play.

Speaker 7 (58:15):
And then when we do a convention, we can all
like book some time and truly catch up on the court.
Love this.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Wait, should we take our first group lesson this fall and.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Willing to show it and we record it and then
we put it on YouTube?

Speaker 6 (58:29):
Yeah, I'm actually.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
Set it up.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Done.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Shall we spin a wheel?

Speaker 5 (58:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:37):
What a good question?

Speaker 6 (58:38):
What is this?

Speaker 5 (58:39):
Okay, it's most likely too, so you know in high
school yearbooks they've got the most likely to blah blah blah.
This is the thing we do at the end of
every episode, and we have a virtual wheel and give to.

Speaker 7 (58:50):
Us most likely to build a separate closet for just
their shoes. Characters are actors, Like, are we talking about
the characters in the show?

Speaker 3 (58:59):
We do both? Yeah, I mean I would say between characters,
it's probably a tie between Brooke Davis.

Speaker 5 (59:04):
And oh my god, Yeah, you know, like all of
his notes.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
Okay, which which of the real life I mean, I'm
guessing it's got to be a woman, because let's be honest,
your your shoe collections are definitely far superior.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
To all one thousand percent. Would build a closet for
my shoes? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (59:25):
But I don't know many women that wouldn't if you
had the space for it.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
So it's a tie all of the female cast members.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
Would you? So do you have a closet for your shoes?

Speaker 10 (59:37):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
It would be nice if I could see them.

Speaker 5 (59:39):
All, That's what I'm saying, just to have it all
laid out so they're not all like tucked away in
random spots.

Speaker 7 (59:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Maybe I was going to say, I feel like that's
something she tells about she has the most amazing shoe collection. Yes,
I feel like.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
She wins.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
Yeah, right, she wins.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
She has the best shoes.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
Tyler, we should take Marie Hilton. Thank you for taking
two hours out of your day for a Q and
A and an episode and just bring in so much
joy and laughter with you to the Drama Queens podcast.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
You guys, I love with the Queens. I love it.
And Rob you're such a great queen. What a great adda.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
We love having you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Thank you, buddy, isn't Eva.

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
Can't wait to play tennis in Momington.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
Yeah, yes, let's do it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:25):
See you guys on the court.

Speaker 7 (01:00:26):
All right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
Next episode, Season nine, Episode six, Catastrophe and the Cure.
Let's see what happens.

Speaker 6 (01:00:33):
See you all you guys.

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Hey, thanks for listening.

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