Passing Notes w/Danneel Ackles (Rachel Gatina) • EP306

Danneel Ackles aka Rachel Gatina is back!
 
We're getting all the BTS on Rachel and Danneel...Rachel was never supposed to stay in Tree Hill and Danneel was a pageant girl!

Which of the guys would Danneel have picked...her answer might surprise you!
 
And, remember passing notes in class...maybe we were on to something!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, you don't know me. Were all about
that high school drama, Girl Drama Girl, all about them
high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in
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you could sit with us Girl Drama Queens Drama, Queen's Drama,
Queen's Drama Drawn MC Queen's Drama Queen's Season three, episode six, Lucked,

(00:29):
Hearts and Hand Grades Air date November nine, two thousand five. Hillary,
what was this episode of Acts? Oh my god, it's
the Fantasy boy Draft. You guys, we're gonna give you
the rundown on this. But not to be confused with
the boy Toy auction. That's it. It was like they
were like, you know what's worked in the past. We

(00:49):
did we do the boy toy already, the boy toy
action already, The boy to auction was season one. Yeah,
they were like, we like, we like hot ass, and
so to join us for this selling boys body episode
was our wonderful friend. Danielle Harris sackles ull Well, listen,

(01:10):
a lot happened this episode, and Rachel was the spicy
center of a lot of it. Uh to prevent the
cheer squad from fighting for the same guy, Brooks sets
up this fantasy boy draft. It backfires as predicted. Um
Hailey continues to work with Chris Keller as he pushes
her to write better music than Mayoral Race heats up
between Dan and Karen, and Lucas is having so much

(01:34):
trouble keeping up with the pace of basketball. It's just
things some dramatic in this week. It's a inchense. We
wanted you to come back for Rachel's introduction because it
was the perfect curveball for our show, and since we
didn't get we needed her energy. Let's go back because

(01:54):
as long as we're like looking at boy bodies in
this episode, we might as well go back and remember
the full display that you had to do with your
cheerleading audition. Um, yeah, what was like? Hell the hell
did you end up on our show? What happened? Oh
yeah that's right? Yeah, well huh, I auditioned, But when

(02:15):
I auditioned, I didn't have to do that dance. There
was no Um, I mean, look, full disclosure. I was
a cheerleader, but I was always the one that was
like in the back row and I was a bass
I was like the lifter of girls, and I was
like never the one who could follow along with the steps,

(02:37):
and I was always the one who was like counting
along with my mouth one like person. So it's like
the kid in the play that's always mouthing other people's
lines to them. Yes, yeah, So I was always in
the back. And so with with Rachel and like her,
you know her first, you know her. Her introduction is

(02:59):
you have to learn an dance. And I remember getting
the dance when I got to set, and I was like, oh,
they think I'm like a real performer who could just
like learn this in a day, like I need a
month for this, like I needed to. So it was
a lot um and I think it was to the
Whisper song. It was really gross. Turn up the volume

(03:20):
is very scary. It's um. It's pretty scandalous. Gus is
obsessed with Star Wars right now, and I was explaining
to him the viral sensation that was Star Wars Kid,
like around that time, do you guys remember that video totally?
And so we repeated it in those cheerleading tryouts we
had like a Star Wars kid, and so I went

(03:41):
to show him that. I was like look, we referenced
this in One Tree Hill and then all of a sudden,
Rachel comes out and starts doing her dance, and I
had to like like, he's like, oh, that's Danil, and
I'm like, we're not gonna look at Antonia like this. Yeah,

(04:01):
oh my god. I don't remember how many times you too.
I saw you this weekend and you told me you
auditioned for a different character. Yeah, so I auditioned for Brooke,
and at least I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure it
was Brooke. I was going through a record collection and
being really bitchy, um, but not in a bitchy Peyton way,

(04:26):
So I'm pretty sure that it was. So they loved
you and brought you back then for this. Did you
have to audition again for Rachel? Or was it like
we remember how much we love that girl call her? No,
So it wasn't like a giant audition. I do remember that.
It was just like, you know, maybe like kind of
us or something. Yeah, but there there were a couple

(04:47):
of girls, and but I do remember specifically there was
no dancing required and I was not told about any
of that. And then I get there and I was
just like, so nervous, and I had to meet you
guys all. I met all of you in like a
Pamela Anderson outfit that was super tight. It was Clether
was buying way, it was Vinyl. I don't it was

(05:08):
so it was nerve wracking. We have talked about that
dress because I had as Peyton and as Hillary had
zero problem with it. Was just like, oh my god,
look at her calves, like this is amazing, amazing. And
what I like about the way you play Rachel, is
I suppose any of those other girls auditioning could have

(05:30):
played some of these lines really bitchy, like oh, is
that your boyfriend? You know? And Rachel from the jump
earnestly asks brook She's like, oh, I'm so sorry, is
that your boyfriend? And Brooks the one that keeps saying no, no, no,
and so yeah, so Rachel doesn't necessarily get with Brooke

(05:52):
until Brooke is like clearly offended by her presence, and
it kind of it doesn't make sense. It's yeah, that
really feels like, yeah, it's kind of all on Brook
right now. I mean, and Rachel's seems to be having
a little fun with having fun with her about it
because she's clearly so bothered, and Rachel is clearly so

(06:13):
not bothered. But you know, when you see somebody that's
all worked up about something, it's fun like do you
like to push a button here and there? I don't,
but there are several kinds of people, and some people
like to just find a poke buttons a little bit
when you see somebody who's really worked up. Um, I
don't know. I just this whole episode. I'm like, Rachel

(06:35):
so nice, She's a friendly and in genuine th I was, um,
who was it? I was really into a Vonage Public
the coach. She was like a famous acting coach. I
think she's passed away now, but she both this really
great book, um, and I remember for this specifically, for

(06:56):
this audition, I went back um through her book and
I used some of her techniques. And what I discovered
with Rachel is you never needed to play Rachel Bidgie,
and if you did, you know that that no one
was really going to respond to her because the lines
by themselves were so terrible that if you didn't say

(07:17):
it with a smile or didn't say it with like,
you know. I always gave Rachel the backstory of you know,
her parents, traveled and she has been in a thousand
schools and she expects to leave Tree Hill. Um, she
does not expect to be there. She's there, and what
how was it like we were sophomores or you go

(07:38):
to the junior year because we have one where year
left to school. Okay, So I mean she was just like, well,
this is like I've spent two previous years in different schools.
Now I'm going to be here for just a second.
And like and I wasn't supposed to be a series regular.
I was only a recurring guest star. So it played
that played end of my back that was in my

(08:00):
head of like I'm just popping in here for a
minute like I do every school and it's more fun.
I'm just like what, like, okay, y'all are going to
get all serious. Everybody's worked up about this, but I'm
going to leave in a minute, so it doesn't matter.
I don't need to invest too much. So her lines
to me were always just kind of they needed to
be more flippant, more like that's so smart and it

(08:23):
tracks when I watch your performance, I see that choice.
Oh it's senior year. We just had that big beach
party where we're like it's our last year of high school.
That almost lends itself to be flip because it's like, guys,
we're out of here. Yeah, don't be you and your
little boyfriends so cute, Yeah, you're not going to know them.

(08:45):
And Rachel would never know anybody long term because of
moving so much. So it's you know, she doesn't develop
those really strong relationships, and I think later later on,
not to be a spoiler, but that's I think that's
why she whole so close to mouth when they do
become friends, because that really was her only true friend

(09:06):
at Tree hill Brook a little but they always it
got good and then it was what was high school
like for you? For real? I mean I know that you.
I listen. I told on you. I told the other
girls that you were a pageant queen because that picture
of you with the puffy sleeves and the scepter is
like my favorite picture. It's my favorite throughout my life

(09:32):
various friends. I Like, it's one of those things where
like I'll go over to people's house and they've found
it on the internet and tried it about, Like okay, classic,
I've seen this like a thousand times. I'm gonna get
a cardboard cut out of it and just have it
here in the office. Culture queen, And you know what,
I'm proud of my Cajun culture and I can tell
you a lot about it. Um. It was just like

(09:54):
a thing to do where I grew up. Everybody did
it and I only did that one pageant. That was
it for me. I wasn't like a I did and
I won. What do you want? I didn't want my one.
I was like, okay, I checked that. But you know,
I did a lot of things in high school. I
was like A had a lot of different, um, different

(10:15):
friend groups. And you know, I changed high schools myself
more year or let's see, middle of my freshman year,
I changed from like a really small high school to
a really big high school, and so I got to
kind of reinvent myself. I think, um, as much as
you can do in a town with like, you know,
three red lights. So I reinvented myself when everyone was

(10:38):
like no, no, you're no, You're still a bad girl.
We already know. But high school for me was fun.
I don't have any like bad memories of high school.
I enjoyed it. I mean, sure, I got my feelings hurt,
and I probably hurt feelings, but all in all, it
was a good experience. Nothing quite like Tree Hill. I

(10:58):
would say, yeah, but these kids go through no offense
to all the people I went to high school with.
But like Tree Hill, it's like one of the most
beautiful high school. Like did you see all the cute
boys like that? The cheerleaders are super cute, Like I
think like this was during that super mode of like

(11:22):
CW casting or Warner Brothers casting where they're like, literally,
every face has to be you know, every face, every
face has to be magical. That was a lot to
look up to, though, because that's what you went to
the c W four if you were an audience member,
like you knew, yeah, every it was just all pretty.
And that was the trope and the joke right about
the network, like it's just all pretty people. Yes, I

(11:46):
don't know, Yeah, well they were they were beautiful. I
noticed that about Tree Hills, Like, Wow, this is a
good looking high school. Who would you have picked in
the boy draft? Who would have your who would I
think it'd be a toss up between well, I think

(12:06):
Nathan because just because we were watching him run back
and I'm like this is a cute guy, like yeah, probably,
I don't know, probably not Lucas, because are we talking
about me or Rachel? You know, we can we can
be safe and say Rachel, like, who do you think Rachel?
I think Rachel would be into um all the philosophical

(12:31):
poetry and all that. I think she would maybe roll
her eyes and I wouldn't want to be update with
someone as Rachel. And they and they're like starting to
quote poetry like I'm so yes, I think just Nan,
Chris Keller, I'm taking like all of your men um
joy Sorry those two maybe O. See why do I

(12:57):
slap you in later events? Don't like a drink in
your face? You drinking? Why why do we fight? We
fight in an episode coming up soon, right? Why do
we fight? I throw a drink in your I do
something with your husband? Oh? Because you were after Nathan.
That's right. Yeah, she did actually decide. Yeah, that's what

(13:19):
it was. I don't know what happens to her. I
mean she has to overcome. I mean there was like
you know, she was heavier in her younger years, and
and Brooke put all those pictures up of her, so
she's embarrassed in front of the the whole high school,
so I think, like, then she starts to retaliate, she
becomes yeah, but um yeah, you throw a drink on

(13:41):
me and then slapped me. Do I slap you? Because
you're pressing so many altercations on this show. I feel
like you were pregnant, so I would I don't feel
like I would have hit you, I think too, So
maybe it's next next season. Well, it's girl fighting that

(14:03):
kicks off this whole boy draft, this idea that like
the cheerleading squad is just fighting over boys. Um yeah,
and like physically fighting with each other. Bevin and one
of the other cheerleaders have each other in like headlocks.
I love how much screen time Bevan got this episode.
It was crazy. I don't remember that, but it's awesome

(14:25):
and I want to see, like, I want to see
more of her character with skills. Chemistry was so good.
It was really unexpected to it was scene. To me,
that was the most interesting scene of the episode because
there was just so there was like a little fireworks
happening on camera. It was great. Yeah, I can't wait
till they come on the podcast. Well, we've had but

(14:47):
we need to get them together. They're both comedic actors,
and usually on our show, we use our comedic actors
to lighten up the straight men. So like Lucas would
get haired with Gills to lighten then you know, Peyton
gets paired with people to lighten up. Um. When we
have these scenes where we've got two great comedic actors

(15:09):
working together, that's why the Skills Barbara stuff is so good.
You know, we don't get to do a lot of it.
It's usually just kissing and crying everyone I want a giggle,
you know. But I liked I I agree, I really
liked that. It was good. It was very sexy. We

(15:35):
also had a cameo in this episode, um, a guest star,
Julianna Gwill who is now she's still working now. She's
starring in Joe Pickett alongside Michael Dorman. He just did
a movie with Sophia Oh that's right. Yeah, yeah, I

(15:56):
can't remember the name of it. Yeah, she was great.
I remember her. Like in this specific episode, the director
for some reason kept making our stay that line skills
to Bevan, Yes, over and over and like I just
remember that in my head, Like the minute she said
skills to Bevan, I had like a traumatic flinch. I

(16:16):
was like, I just remember sitting on that couch and
something was going wrong. I don't know if it was
like technical or whatever it was, but it was like
she kept having to say that line, and then she
ended up like being so upset. You know. It was
just remember that room being just a bit difficult that day.

(16:39):
But she was great and she um. She went out
and did a movie after that that was kind of big.
It was like a high school films. I love seeing
people who are still working in the industry and still
like making stories and making great movies pop up in
their early early beginning days pop up on our show.
She was also on Friday the thirteen. Yeah, I was

(17:01):
gonna shared padillacky. Yeah, we're going to the premiere of
that and seeing her and I was like, oh my gosh,
so yeah, you know, we can talk about that boy draft.
We don't have to talk about things in order. Because
when we saw that this was the episode we were watching,
we were all like, oh oh, because this is a

(17:21):
hard one they had to shoot. They had like three
girls in a room, and not only are you supposed
to know your own lines, but you're supposed to know
everyone else's lines so you can rapid fire like, you know,
talking right after. Yeah, it was impossible, and the director,
I think, got very frustrated with us, and then it

(17:44):
was kind of grouchy. Anyway, she did one episode of
our show and was like, I'm never talking again, never again. Um, yes,
that is what that is what I remember the minute
I thought. I also remember not understanding the boy draft
at all, and I watched it again and I still

(18:04):
don't understand. And I don't understand fantasy football draft, so
and I don't know how that works. So maybe that's
why I'm so confused. But I was watching it, I
was like, I don't get it, Like was explaining it right, yeah,
Brooks explaining it, and I still had trouble figuring out
what the actual So so nobody's allowed to like that
that's the boy that you can chase for the entire

(18:26):
season and no one else can chase after him. I
don't like, is that what it is? I don't understand.
I don't I don't get it. I don't like the
whole Like I don't know when you're sixteen years yeah, sixteen,
seventeen years old, like you've got to pick one, you know,
like you're supposed to be chasing three or four at
any even times, real live version of Masha. Like we

(18:49):
were trying to do, you know, the piece of paper
Mash Mary and the apartment shack house or whatever. Man,
Oh that's what is mansion apartment shack house. You never
did this, Hillary? Of course, I did this, of course.
But I was always like I want to live in
a castle with bats, and you know, like I want
to marry a vampire. I feel like Brooke was trying

(19:11):
to create her own live, real life version of Mash. Yeah, everybody.
Everybody gets to pick. Then I remain confused by I
don't know what we were doing, but I knew I
had to pick Lucas and it was to piss Brook off.
So that was the only do you guys have like
girl code when you were growing up? Like, was it

(19:31):
like you and your friends made agreements like we're not
going to like the same guy. Yeah, but it never worked, right, Yeah, exactly.
I remember I remember me and my friend both going
out with the same guy like in fifth grade or something,
fifth or sixth grade, and it was like, yeah, we're
both his girlfriend were so progressive. It worked for like

(19:55):
four days. Yeah, in high school. I just I was
in a very small town. So by nature, you were
going to date somebody that somebody else's had already been with.
But sometimes that's good because you can learn a lot
before you get into that relationship. So my best friend
and I dated guys in so our senior year. We

(20:18):
dated college boys and they were best friends. They had
graduated two years before us, and they were best friends,
and we were best friends, and we would like double
date and like super cute until did your parents know?
My mom would have killed me up in the same town.
We've known these guys since we were little. Like it's

(20:39):
not like they were like mysterious older guys. I've known
them since they were like, you know, nerdy fifth grade.
Immediately after graduating high school, my boyfriend was I was like, yeah, guys, come,
it's like you and year old when I was at
nineteen two. Yeah, poor choices. But these boys decided that
they wanted to switch. They decided that I was a

(21:02):
better fit for her boyfriend and she was a better
fit for my boyfriend, and they decided they went out
progressive guys. Know. I was the bitch that was just
like we're done here, We're done everyone. Oh you didn't
want to I'm done here. Didn't Shania Twain do that? No, dude,
I completely left the quadrant. I left the quadran. Oh

(21:22):
that's rights. Yeah, who did with who? Her husband started
cheating on her with the the best friends. They're the
little couple they were best friends with I think, yeahall
we have to go back and look. But then and
then they do other too. Were kind of like bonding

(21:44):
with each other about it or something, and then they
started there was and so now is that the situation?
They just did a full switchero and now everybody's happy again.
They're still dinner parties. It's still just like, I don't
know how happy it is. Maybe yeah, I don't know
if they hang out there dosie dough. But disclaimer, none
of us know Shania or anything about her life. She

(22:04):
wants to come on and tell us all about it.
We're totally yeah, should I come explain? Yeah, I'm into it. Well, um,
because this episode felt to me like it was a placeholder. Yeah,
nothing happened, and all the things that were supposed to
seem really meaningful, like Lucas's speeches and even a couple

(22:27):
of moments with Nathan and Haley, I guess, and it
all just felt like kind of a filler, like they
couldn't figure out what to do with this episode and
they just said, well, let's just do something found nothing matters.
Is it a spec script? Oh that's interesting, because here's
the deal. When they're hiring new writers or when they're
like bringing new people into the writer's room, a lot

(22:49):
of times they're like, just write a standalone episode so
that we can pop it in whenever we need to
pop it in. And this one really doesn't connect to anything,
you know. You know, the only connections are the Dan
and Karen stuff and Dan and I always want to
call her Barbara Dan and Debb just and those are

(23:11):
just continuations of a storyline that already started. But there's
no real progression in either of those storylines. They just
kind of think her moving that sign was a big deal.
I didn't understand shouldn't deface it or anything. I just
totally I was like, okay, so you got it, move
and you put a little bumper sticker on the back.

(23:33):
As an adult. Nice though as an adult toy, we're
so much more capable of vandalism at this age. Absolutely,
what would do did you do it, What would you
mean at least like popped a giant poop emoji on
the head or I don't know, done some more with

(23:54):
the with the like there should have been more diarrhea,
oh more, you want to always yeah that, Like I
guess we weren't. It was too early in the series
to like actually see a poop stain or maybe that
would be like standards and practices would be like no, no,
no no, But I wanted to see a poop stain. Um.

(24:16):
I love that Paul was so committed to that, like
when he was in Karen's cafe yelling at her and
then like the way he kind of hobbled off. I
love he was like so game for anything. Yes, Um,
but I thought there was some really good like um,
Brooke Rachel lines in there, and like there was definitely
a lot of like if I look on my Instagram,

(24:37):
some of those scenes are always on there because it's
like the totally Beaches moment. Loved that line. Love. Um,
just some of the early Brook Rachel face offs, I think,
and those were so much fun to shoot, Like I
just remember like being done with those and then laughing
because they were so ridiculous and um, you know you

(25:00):
out biting each other. It takes a big personality to
stand up to Brook, you know, like, yeah, you cannot
be a little bit intimidated or insecure. You have to
outbrooke Brook in order to play the game with her.
And so watching you two together it's so fun because
this is the first time we've actually seen Brook kind

(25:21):
of insecure, like she wasn't insecure. She knew exactly who
she was with Erika marsh you know, yeah, this is fun.
It's I also like the way when there's the Hailey
Brooke interactions, because like Brooke and Haley is just like yeah, anyway,

(25:45):
and it's like just so grounded and it's just like
these two I love it, Um, I love watching them.
That's like every conversation you'll have in that episode was
like that it is we have we end up seeing. Yeah.
I loved seeing Brooke and Haley really getting a chance
to to play ball and bat around their friendship. And

(26:07):
in the last season this season, it's been really fun.
I like watching real Chris, Like, you want to talk
about chemistry, You and Tyler have such good chemistry on
this show, and so Chris that that segue between um
them talking about something sucking and then Crisp being like

(26:29):
the song sucks, you know. Yeah, it was a great
segue and the only thing that's good about that song
besides it being over. They always gave him great lines.
He really did. Yeah, him hair as me in that
episode hair color. I don't remember his hair. I don't

(26:49):
remember his hair being red. I don't know why I
was remember. It might have just been the light in
the room, but it was filter. Yeah, there was like
a neon, like a neon sign in that room, I think. Um.
But he is a good catalyst for Haley. The conversation
that you guys have in the recording studio is great

(27:11):
because he's like, he's doing exactly what Nathan wants him
to do, and that's to push her and get her
to stop lying or stop pretending or being safe. Um.
And it is weird that he's the only person that
can do that. And then when he comes into the
cafe and he puts her name on the board, I

(27:33):
totally forgot about that. What I thought you did that
when Chris, Oh no, she's talking about earlier when Chris came. Yeah,
that was really sweet and I love the Scott at
the end. You know what made me think of that,
because they It made me think of wanting to explain
to the audience how they get those shots, because the
shot of Haley putting the Scott sticker on the map

(27:57):
transitions into the shot of the Scott letters on a
what is it a locker or a jersey or something,
But they have to measure that so specifically with the
camera to make sure that there the letters are going
to line up exactly so that they can transit, and
then how to pull back from that to get to

(28:20):
the actor's face. Because you're going from a super super
super extreme close up and then pulling back out to
a regular size. You could be there for like over
an hour sometimes on each end, trying to make sure
that you get the get you get the sizes exactly right.
And I always think those things are interesting for people
who don't work in our industry to know that you

(28:42):
just see a cool shot. Oh that's so cool they
transitioned on the Scott name. That's neat. But um, sometimes
the technical stuff is kind of fun to learn. So
there you go totally. People are always like it takes
you all how long to make a forty minute episode?
Over a week eight days, because where are we eight days? Yeah,

(29:03):
you're right, yeah, we spent seven of them, like holding
cupcakes in your apartment in this episode. The cupcakes. Okay,
so listen, the props department is who supplies the cupcakes, right,
they have to go out and get all the fake food.
But they didn't get like three cupcakes for all thirty

(29:24):
seven of these girls to eat in every single take.
So the directors thought they might have thought I was
just going to put them, you know, on the on
the counter, or that's what they because they had meetings
prior to this, like um tone meetings and all these
different sorts of meetings where everything is discussed, and it
was probably said that I would just put the cupcakes

(29:45):
on the counter and then maybe on the day. The
director was like no, no, no, she passes them out
and she wanted everyone to take bites of the cupcakes,
like I remember that being like She's like, these gotta
look like these girls love these cupcakes. So that Brooke
is upset, and so we all have blue mouths because
you know that icing from the grocery store, because that
has kids and it is like a disaster that stuff.

(30:07):
It doesn't come on, come on, the Great Cupcake Battle
of the Fantasy Boy Draft. It's so stupid the things
that you remember. It's so stupid because it's like it's
like we've we filmed for eight days, but the cupcakes
are the things where I'm like, oh, not those things. Yeah,

(30:27):
do you know what I have for you? Guys? I
have a present for you. Um. Sometimes my hoarding pays off,
and I have hearded this Mouth McFadden boy draft card
for the last like years. It's got stats on the
back on how do I Okay, yeah, read them. It

(30:51):
says number one for your consideration, height five seven, weight
one In what world was Mouth one? Ninety? Okay? Our
department got a little creative. Here says born ten, ten
eighty nine. Okay, so we know that Mouth's birthdays ten birthday.

(31:12):
It says I'm the nice guy. You've been waiting for
exclamation mark and then bullet pointed. Uh, like on our
resumes when we have to do special skills. Um, it
says stylish, smart, sincere, great conversationalist and great dancer available.
Now Mouth mixed that in Oh my god, awesome. I

(31:37):
mean this was a little I stole this from set
and it's you got to frame it in one of
those frames that's glass in the front and glass in
the back. I love him. You can get him at
like Marshall's. They're cheap number one. He's a number one
pick guys. No, she's a she's not going to give
that joy. There's no way in hell he's going to
get it. I'll maybe take a screen grab and send

(31:58):
it to him, but I'm gonna be I'm gonna years old,
like whym I tell you kids about the Fantasy Boy Draft.
You gotta get him to sign it and then still
keep it. By the way, he really is the best dancer.
That's a He's a great dancer. Yeah, it really is.

(32:18):
It makes a difference when a guy knows how to dance,
doesn't it nice? Okay, So what were you gonna say
before I interrupted you with my totally sweet trading card.
I was gonna say, well, there's two things. Ay, I
really want to go back to figuring out what we
would have done to destroy dance campaign, because I think
that's such a fun topic. But also, why the hell
does Lucas care so much about being on the varsity

(32:42):
basketball team but he's willing to risk his life? What
is going on? Well, I think he said he said
in the episode that he never felt like he had
fit in before and he'd finally found a group of
people that you know, supported him, and he felt he
felt safe and all of that. Didn't he say that

(33:03):
he did? Did? I mean, it's not like he's hanging
out with the bros. It's not like he's like like
got a connection with the team at all, and all
the girls still want to hook up with him. So
it's not like not playing basketballs to ruin that. Um
if Again, it feels like a spec script. It feels

(33:25):
like a standalone thing where it's like Luca's just really
has to care about basketball so much. Um Yeah, he's
only been playing for what half a year on the
varsity team. I mean, obviously he's been playing his whole
life in the river court means everything to him, and
those guys mean everything. But that's the other thing. I mean,
what about his river court friends. Aren't those the people
that always made him feel like he belonged somewhere? Is he?

(33:49):
Why is he suddenly all obsessed with the jocks at
the high school who were always apples to him. I
do love that this was like the first time we
saw skills at school about time, you know, was it? Yeah,

(34:09):
one of the first I mean, if it's not the first,
it's the second, which is when became in hot, which
I like, Yeah, I don't think we have seen him
at school before. I mean maybe sitting in a classroom maybe,
I don't know. How about how bad is Brookett passing notes?
Just like who thought that was a good idea? Like

(34:34):
do kids even pass notes anymore? It happened, I got
I gotten big trouble. But it wasn't really passing it out.
It was I left it in my pocket and my
mom washed my pants, you know, and pulled it out
and found it, and it was bad. It was like
all about like the party that we had snuck out,
and like I don't know why my friend was writing

(34:56):
in so much detail, but it was like all of it.
She just like, and then about your window and went
to so and so's house, and then I can't believe
we stayed out until two in the morning, can you?
And but it was just like, well everything's there. My
mom was like, OK, well you're it, and I'm like

(35:17):
I couldn't even get out of it because like every
single detail I had been described. Wait, man I got caught.
It was a great yeah, great, You're the best sneaker out. Ever,
my mom did the same thing. She found a note
in my pocket that I was the middleman. This girl
Jade wanted me to pass this note to her cousin
in my class. And my mom finds it in my

(35:39):
pocket and it was just one sentence it said you Leon,
and it was second grade. My mom found it and
it was just like, who's Leon. It has to be
another T shirt? I really need that T shirt. I
used to pass notes all the time. We used to.

(36:01):
I was went to high school in New Jersey in
a building that had been around for probably since like
the thirties or forties. So we had these old radiators
that were on the sides of the rooms and it
was close enough to the desk where you could count
how many slats in the radiator there were, and you
could like. So there was this little note space for notes,

(36:22):
and I would slide my notes for from my friend
who was coming into the next class. So we would
all leave the classroom and then he would come in
and sit down and my note it wass yes, this
was my best friend in high school. And so I
would always leave a little uh, I live a little
little notes in there. We would like trade and pass
notes back and forth in the radiator. I like, pardon

(36:45):
the pun. I didn't even mean it jokes, No, I like,
I'm just thinking, like if that was in a movie,
that would be like a sexy little thing to do
is to have like a little hidi hole in public,
you know what I mean. Like that's what makes it's
so cute. It's the you know, the sixth It's like
the sixth slat or whatever it was. You know, you
could always say whichever desk you ended up sitting by,

(37:08):
like number eight, Yeah, what happens if someone else leaves
a note there one day? Are like, I'm always more scared.
I mean, I like to journal, but every time I
journal something, I'll then shred it because I'm so paranoid
um of like keeping notes and letters because it's like,
oh my gosh, it's so permanent. Um. And then yet

(37:32):
I will text a lot of crazy and I'm like,
like just a digital but something about yeah, it's just
a digital footbir. It's just going into the cloud and
anybody can access it. But like, you gotta shred this.
It's probably some like trauma from high school. But I'm like,

(37:53):
you got caught, Yeah, I got caught. I'm like, better
shred this note. But yeah, I'm always I'm always like
so scared to write things down? Now, haven't you seen
Bridges of Madison County. After Meryl Street dies, her children
find all of her like she does. The movie starts

(38:15):
it's our kids and they find all her the attic
and they're like, mother had a life and a photographer.
Keep the notes. Let your kids think you're interesting one day.
You know. I love keeping all that stuff. I'm a
total paper hoarder. I have there's a lot of stuff
that I'll throw away, but paper. I have bins of

(38:37):
note cards and um greeting cards that people have given
me from birthdays and things from like, you know, twenty
years ago. Keep none of all that stuff. I have
that box full of notes from high school that I
passed back and forth with my friends. That's not true, Hilary.
I have a birthday card you gave me for my
twenty six birthday. I ever come on this podcast again,

(39:00):
will bring it. Because she would draw like elaborate pictures.
Remember you joked, because I was like the oldest was
always like so old, like compelled to everybody else. God,
I'm so old, what do we think? Goodness, we didn't
have like so much like social media. We do not

(39:21):
have any social media. But no, we were safe. Nobody
could nobody could really like comment on that, because I
remember like watching nine or two one I my mom
being like Dylan McKay's four hundred years old. None of
these people because we had all like the forehead wrinkles. Yeah. Um,
but yeah, it was like, no, we didn't know that.

(39:44):
We didn't need to know what people were saying about us.
We just passed our own. Look. Joy and I had
a notebook that we would pass between our trailers and
you decorated the front of it and it was called
Trailer Trash and we would just talk in this journal
and has it back and forth so that we have it.
You you do, I've found it in my in my

(40:05):
storage in it. There needs to be another podcast. Yeah,
that's because it's like you you do the scene and
you know, you're just like, oh God, I'm exhausted. Now
I gotta sit around for four hours while they shoot
a different scene, and I don't know what to do
for the next four hours, and so you write to

(40:26):
your human journal joy and you're like, did you check
out this on set today? And did you know who's
kissing who? And did you know what happened after work
on Wednesday? We had a grand times did I love
the I love the Traveling Notebook? And I've actually used
this UM in raising my daughter. It's really helped it

(40:47):
with communication because um, she would we I started out
with when she was writing, kids start writing about um
what five six years old in kindergarten are like putting
together real basic sentences. UM. So if she was mad,
she just shuts down. She will not speak and have

(41:08):
a conversation. So I and she would go in her
room and close the door, or she would we weren't allowed.
I didn't let her have a fully closed door until
it certain, so you know, I took it off. She's
got no door, and UM, so I would I would write, UM,
are you mad at me? And slide it under the door,
and then she would write yes and slide it back

(41:33):
what happened? Slide it back and should And so we
would do that and we have kept doing that. I
think the last time we did it was Eventually I
graduated to a notebook because it was a little easier
because you know, I had to keep going to find
pieces of papor, but I wanted to keep them forever.
It was it gave her the freedom to have to
share her emotions without the scariness of having to, you know,

(41:58):
say things out loud sometime. Um So anyway, it's a
it's a fun tool for any parents out there who
are trying to figure out how to get your kids
to talk to you about scary things or whatever. I
like that a lot. That's a good one. Gus employed
that joy. Like. I remember finding a note on the
kitchen island that said mom is dumb. D O M.

(42:21):
And he was trying to say numb, mom is dumb,
and so Jeff Will still yelled at him. He was like,
mom is dumb. Notes are the way to my heart,
even if you're being kind of an asshole. I love
the written word to What would you do if you
found a boy draft note in your daughter's pocket? I

(42:48):
would laugh so hard. I don't know, I think that's hysterical. Yeah,
like the idea of Davis's kids finding a boy draft
and it being all the names of all of the
like uncles and like people she knows in town. That's horrifying.
We don't think about it in context like that. It's
a stranger. My youngest daughter, you know, there's a little

(43:11):
jewelry box. You open it up and there's like a
little ballerina kind of rolling around. So she has one
of those, and I I was putting away some of
her little like stretchy bracelets, and I opened it up
in there and she has in there, and she just
graduated pre school. She has in there perfectly positioned a
little boy his picture, his school pictures, put it in there,

(43:35):
and I was like, what's this? And she told me
his name and I was like, is this like a
special friend? And she's like I just didn't want to
lose it. And I was like, she's like it's really special.
And I'm like that's adorable, Like it's really cute. I'm
here for young love me too. I love it. Oh man,

(43:59):
it's the remember too young to have a crush. I
don't think it just means you like people like Jeff
and I don't understand. We were both like in love
from preschool on, like I have been in love my
entire life. Jeff was in love his entire life. Gus
is like computers. Do you know what I mean now

(44:22):
or just like I don't know. That seems like work.
You guys are a lot since this is really intimidating,
I don't understand that. Can I find out the line
craft one of mine? So at least we know one
is a romantic I was like, that's great. Is the
older one is she? Is she a slurty girl? Now?
Now she's serious. No, she's very serious, like not a flirt. No. No,

(44:48):
And I don't really think any of them. I she
my nine year old recently had a slummer party, and
I mean third grade summer parties. We were talking about boys.
They didn't they did not mention one boy. Oh wow,
well that's good. They're evolved. We were just like monsters. Yeah,

(45:08):
they did each other, which is hilarious, but not in
a serious way. They like blindfolded each other and did
it all. See that's what we should have been doing
at the apartment. You know. Yes, the apartment is a
good set. By the way, those Okay, so Sophia is
not here. Everybody at home knows that she's doing romantic things. Um,

(45:29):
which is very cool. Uh, but I love in this
episode the apartment. You know, she's like the French riviera,
and Rachel corrects her. But isn't that like we're st
got engaged, Like has life come full circle? Oh that's
interesting Positano, Right, Wasn't that sort of the area that
she was Guys? I don't know. I'm just some bumpkin

(45:51):
that lives in the country, but I think it's like
CuMo different. I don't know, that isn't the same. It's
off the same coast. They were in a boat Rachel's lines,
I am not. I don't know. Ye, Okay. Talk about

(46:12):
Rachel being smart though, because I loved that bombshell this
episode with the Supreme Court case. Oh my gosh, that
was great. Yeah, she's very smart and she does that throughout.
I think all of her time at Tree Hill, she's
always pulling out something like that. But I mean again,
like when you're you know, popping around to all these
different schools, I mean, I feel like there is part

(46:33):
of her that's like she just kind of buried herself,
probably in her studies. And you know, we learned later
that her parents aren't very um present because she and
Brookes share that in common. Umi, Yeah, I was like
no one we were at Charlie Brown's real life. I

(46:54):
guess no one's parents were really present. No, but I
like that you also are so smart in real life, Danielle.
Like when we had to do that Maxim cover, we
had to go sit down and do an interview, and
it was so Danielle and myself and this reporter's asking
us questions, and we were very aware of what that

(47:18):
kind of magazine wants you to be, and you know,
like the whole like bimbo mentality. And as we're answering
all these questions, I was like, do you understand that
Danielle is the smartest one at this table, Like she's
the one that graduated college, like she's always been like
the honor student. Like Danielle is the smartest person at
this table. And daniel is all like oh no, no,
no no, but in real life. And it's also just

(47:43):
memorizing a couple of facts that um will yes, yes,
the human had weighs eight pounds, right, you just spit
out a couple of random back and be like, oh,
she knows that she must know more. You are an
incredibly successful woman in so many different arenas, and it's

(48:04):
because you're so smart and intuitive and that doesn't happen
by accident. Well yeah, look she's a business owner. Look
I've got our family business beer shirt on right now. Um,
and that you want me to go get my booze bottles?
We were going to do that. No, no, no, no, hey,
where's my booze? The booze is coming? Do you guys

(48:24):
think it's it's weird that as adult women we went
from one tree hill to all kind of venturing into
the liquor business or the like the alcoholic Is it
a coping mechanism? It's just a lushes tracks perfectly? Well, yeah,
what is Rachel doing right now? Wine? And figured there

(48:50):
might be something about wine coming. But what's Rachel doing now?
Where where did Rachel end up? I don't even know?
Dan dies? And then what happens where I we talked?
I think that I just took all his money and left. Um,
I have to ask some fans to help us out.

(49:11):
But I, um, yeah, I'm gonna do like a little
research on her because now I'm interested watching that. Watching
those episodes is really fun. It's really fun, like all
the emotions and I know I've heard y'all talk about it,
but like when you actually watch it. That just makes
me happy. Well, you were saying that you have like
muscle memory, like you remember some of the lines. Remember

(49:33):
I was remembering my lines. I was like, oh my gosh,
I remember this. I remember what comes next, I remember
the scenes. I remember what she's going to say, because
I was like just starting out and I was so
paranoid all the time that I was going to forget stuff,
and then I did, and then I get screamed that like,
you should know your lines, and I'm like I do.
I'm just so nervous and scared. I can't remember them.

(49:55):
I know. My favorite part of watching this episode back
is when the cheerleaders are fighting in the classroom and
they said something really mean, like he's not into horror
or something like that Danil in real life go fad
And then Rachel laughs like you laughed on que In.

(50:17):
You're like, it's funny. I don't care, it's still funny.
What's funny? Then it's still funny. Yeah. Should we do
some listener questions? I think we have a couple. Okay,
there's a question about musical theater and then another question

(50:38):
about I like Arianna's question. Let's start with this one.
She says, was it hard to be mean to someone
when your characters didn't get along and you actually adore
the real life actor? For example, what about Tyler Hilton
and James Lafferty, Sophia Bush and Danielle Accles. M hm
hm oh. I think it was fun. We kind of talk.

(51:00):
It's fun a minute ago like those it was, it
was so fun. And I remember just like so I
just like busting up laughing, like right after those scenes
because it was like hard, it was. It was hard
to keep a straight face and do though. Um, that
was one thing I remember, because like you have to
be so intense and like Sophia is like so like

(51:24):
Brook is like so over the top and so fast
in all this, and you want to laugh anyway because
it's funny, Like she's funny when she's doing it, And
I just remember it being like hard not to laugh.
That's it. It's hard not to laugh because it's just
so absurd. How it's so crazy to be mean to
someone that you really love. That's it's hard, it's so ridiculous.

(51:45):
I think it's way more awkward when you actually hate
the person, because then you have to pretend like you
don't in between scenes and you're like, great work today,
black an asshole? You know what I mean? That's a
more awkward. Yeah. Yeah. When it's your friend, go all out.
But if they if they have an inkling that you

(52:08):
don't like them, you have to pull the performance back
a little bit, just for the sake of politics. Yeah,
bring it back to all right. We have another question
from Jackie. As a huge musical theater nerd. I love
when y'all talk about connections to the theater and your
love of it. If there had been a full musical
episode of One Tree Hill, Oh my god, we used

(52:29):
to ask for that. What we did? What would you
have wanted to sing? And I'd love to know what
your favorite musical is. M Danielle loves singing. Okay, my
favorite musical from Yeah, I love I do love singing.
I just don't let other people hear. Um. But I
recently had a conversation with Joy and she said she

(52:50):
was going to help me with us. Oh yeah, thank
you for reminding me. I'll send you those I'll send
you those links. Thank you. I do remember it. I
didn't have that much champagne, right, it was that was
really early on in the night. Um, no, my favorite.
My first favorite musical was Oklahoma. My parents had the
record and I would listen to it over and over

(53:12):
and over and over and sing all the songs and yeah,
I just loved it. And I actually sang it this
weekend quite a bit in my head. In your head, Yeah,
you're just walking around? No no no no no no
no no no no no. Joy, what's your favorite? I mean,
I could always watch Lima is always always and South Pacific.

(53:37):
South Pacific is one that has no boring moments for me,
there's no dip, there's I'm interested in every single moment
that's on stage. I really loved Tommy the first time
I saw it, Um, the Who's Tommy? But it's been
a while since I've seen it on stage, so I
don't know. Um, I think those are my favorites. I

(54:01):
love Into the Woods of course, yeah, but the second
act is I don't know, like minutes too long? Yes, Yes,
what's your funny girl? Funny Girl? You know, seeing it
as a kid and then having it parts of it
come to fruition in my adult life. You know that

(54:23):
that scene where all of a sudden she gets called
up by the Zigfeld Follies, and she's like, oh my god,
oh my god, I did it. It's overnight, like getting
called up by TRL off the street. You know. I
was just like, oh my god, it's happening, you know,
in the relationship stuff of like having been with men
in my past that didn't love that I was successful,

(54:44):
you know, like there were so many parts of that
movie that as a kid, I was just like, this
is razzle dazzle. I want to be an actress, just
like Fanny brice Um. And then those life lessons just
hit hard with a sweet Barbera streisand solo here and there.
She's genius. Did you see a Funny Girl in London
when they did it with them? Know they're doing it

(55:06):
right now. Don't remember that New York are doing it again?
How they are? Beanie felt, Oh, Beanie, that's right. I
haven't seen it yet, you know. I I love her.
I think she's great. Normally, when to go to the theater,
I take my son and so I don't know how
into funny girl he is. I actually promised him We're
going to go see a Little Shop of Horrors. That's
all so Tammy. I said, Hi, that's a fun show man.

(55:30):
You would be a good Audrey Danielle. I would love
Danielle would make a great Audrey. Yes, we'll be her
back up, we'll be the will be the do up
singers in the background. That's right. Yeah, those are the
songs you wouldn't be singing. Yes, I'll practice that. We'll
start with that. Suddenly, Seymour, go nuts, Go for babe.

(55:52):
That's so fun. Those are good questions. Umhould we be Wait,
we didn't talk about if there had been a musical
episode of the show. Oh yeah, let's go back. I mean,
I don't I don't know, Like it's hard to tell.
I'm trying to think of songs back then, like a
song that what like embodies your character, or just like
a group song or I don't know what he'll say.
Glee was like a jukebox musical. They would take pop

(56:16):
songs and make them like the character's narrative. What song
embodies your character? I mean, in this season, it's um
ain't too proud to beg right, Please don't leave it,
don't you? Yeah, I mean, I don't know what's that for?

(56:38):
Not for the candlebox. I am going to punch you
in the neck with the candlebox. Danil loves signing other
people up for karaoke and then making them sing the
song while she's yelling at the audience karaoke pitches. I
did sing four non blondes recently, you did? That's a
good one. Yeah, actually with with Renee, our head of

(56:59):
the elament at our pods. So it's uh, it's really fun. Okay,
should we spend a wheel? Guys? Do it? Do it? Okay,
go ahead? What does what does it say? Daniel? Who
is most likely to travel the world in their van? So?

(57:21):
Who is most likely to travel the world in their van?
You have to pick a character from the show in
a real life person. But I think we know the
answer to those Chris Keller character. Oh sure, I could
see Chris on the show doing that, um, But in
real life it's you, dude. You've got the big, huge

(57:43):
like astro van van. We're all together this weekend and
Danil rolled up in a van that my husband thought
was like the van that was supposed to take us
from the hotel to the venues. He thought it was
like the hired van take their family on the road.
And a fan it is me? Did you have to

(58:04):
get like a like a cdo license to drive that thing? No? No,
And we used to have a boat and I think
I actually I got a license for that because I
thought everyone should. But it's not required. What. Yeah, Well,
listen when we go on the road with the Drama
Queen's Tour with our win suit case, you give me

(58:27):
our bus driver. Drama Queen's Tour. We are working on that. Folks,
feel free to send us some info about if you
want us to come to your city, email us yes,
Austin want, Yes, Okay. Next episode, Season three, episode seven,
Champagne for my real friends, Real Pain for my sham friends.

(58:50):
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title and I think of it often for some random reason.
I guess it's just stuck in my head. I don't
know what the episodes about out, but I bet i'll
remember it when we start watching. Are you will? I
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