October 27, 2025 • 52 mins
It’s the second to last episode of the series with Sophia at the helm as the episode's director and the Queens are feeling goosebumps galore.
But despite the nostalgic early season callbacks, there were some major moments missing in this episode! From the actor who was mysteriously absent, to the one scene Sophia wishes hadn’t been cut!
And let’s not forget Julian dropping those great Dirty Dancing lines, a theme of ultra-supportive partners melting hearts, and Richard Burgi taking his shirt off which sent everyone (and we mean everyone) swooning.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, you don't know me.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We all about that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl,
all about.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride,
and our comic girl sharing for the right teen.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Drama Queens, Jaylie's cough girl fashion, but your tough girl,
you could sit with us, Girl Drama, Queen Drama, Queens Drama,
Queens Drama, drahn the Queens Drama Queens.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Well. Well, gosh, Sophia, they gave you the Burning Boat episode,
the penultimate episode.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
It made me so emotional to watch this.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
You guys, me too.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
This was a great app oh man.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Alright, Season nine, episode twelve, Anyone who had a Heart
All of Us Air date March twenty eight, twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Okay, As Haley prepares.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
To mc the annual tree Hill Burning Boat Festival, Brook
uses this opportunity to process her father's betrayal, while Julian
tries to breathe new life into a path. Idea Mouth
and Millie make a change, and what a change it
is to their morning show, and Clay and Quinn get
ready for Logan's first night at the beach house. Director
(01:10):
Sofia bush Oh which was.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Me written by Brian L.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Riding's well, he was a new writer on the show.
I guess right, I don't recognize it.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
I recognize yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I think he was new for our last season. And
what a great episode. The callbacks to early season nostalgia,
the kind of lessons you see all of these adults
that we've grown up with processing. I just I loved
(01:42):
it so so.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Much, and there were so many pieces of nostalgia that
were intentionally dropped in. I mean, watching the boys on
the river court, watching Brooke and Victoria back together, Mouth
and Milly back together, well, Hayley with Lydia a lot
was great too. Being able to see I love that
they just like threw Chase and Haley together for this
whole episode since Nathan.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Was not around.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It was so sweet.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
And being able to.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
See Quinn and Clay finally coming together as a family,
the family they've always wanted to be with Logan included now.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Getting to see Richard Burgee with his shirt off.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I mean right, what like Okay, that.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Was the shirtless hunk this show had been missing the time,
how sir?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I know, you know, it was really fun to watch
the There's so much I remember about the episode obviously
because I directed it, and because it was so close
to the end and there was so much that I
had hanging around in my brain and in my heart
about what I wanted to make sure it felt like
(02:51):
as we began to you know, close the box and
then put the bow on it and wrap up our show.
And it was really fun going into it thinking oh,
I can't wait to remember all of this, and then
to still be surprised. I forgot that Julian was doing
this practice pitch to Brook and then it did that
(03:13):
great transition to find him in the pitch. What I
remembered as soon as it started is Peter Kowalski, our
DP and I worked really hard on these these kinds
of cool trick shots where the camera's pulling back but
also zooming in and it kind of changes the way
the movements feel across the long dining room table at
(03:34):
Brook and Julian's house, and instantly I remembered this moment,
you know, standing in my wardrobe behind video village watching
them do it with second team and being like, Okay,
it's working. Oh my god, we got it. This is
going to be so great. And like those little things
that put energy you know, in the opening of the episode,
I wanted the energy to feel up. I wanted it
(03:56):
to feel happy, and I think it did.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
It really did.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
And when you transition to him being in the actual boardroom, Yeah,
was that because there's a there's a picture over Julian's
shoulder and it is either it either is or it's
very intentionally reminiscent of the Warner Brothers water Tower, Yeah, which,
by the way, was a part of One Tree Hill,
(04:24):
which is part of the c W you know. So
I wasn't certain if we were allowed to reference that
or if you were just cheekily put in something that
was nearly identical to it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That I would imagine that was a decision made by
the producers. I do know we all were like, he's
like pitching the WB right, Like that's what we're doing.
And I liked in a way that the pitch got
to go so well, and also that it felt light
despite the fact obviously that our writers were trying to
(04:53):
poke fun at you know, Twilight and the Vampire Diaries
and everything else. It worked. Austin delivered it so much
humor and the kind of coyness between Brooke and Julian.
I think overshadowed what might have seemed petty on the page,
and then when he's in the room and her feedback,
which seems silly and flirtatious, actually works, and then we
(05:17):
make fun of ourselves and he's like, it doesn't have
to be in a conference room, we can be in
a hot tub. Like it just felt very correct.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Here's my pitch that I think this was a missed
opportunity because we were at the end of our show.
We totally could have done a spinoff that was the
filmed version, yes, like Julian's version.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yes, Ravens.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Absolutely, it could have started a whole.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
New series where we just like took the characters in
different directions as you do, and named them different ways.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
It could have been like The Office. You could have
watched everyone film a TV show. You know, you could
have been the filming of the TV show. Could have
been a really funny, funny thing.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Even just like the meta. It would been so meta.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
As a fan as well, it would have been cool
for Lucas to have been back at least some capacity,
seeing as how it's his book that's being pitched, even
if it's just him and Julian like talking it out
or something. Yeah, I think the fans would have loved that,
and like, that's the most organic way to have him
(06:25):
be there, you know, it's his books.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yes, especially because we did get that years ago. You know,
we had Lucas and Julian working together, trying to make
a project together. It was the whole We got James
Vanderbeek to come in as the you know, the worst
director ever. We've seen it and it's worked, and it
would have been really fun to nod to that that
(06:49):
moment when oh, we didn't get to make Ravens as
a movie, you know, and unkindness of Ravens as a movie,
and now Julian's going to do it as a show.
It would have been so cool to offer that it
was working. To the writer, what I will say is
not having that character come back. What touched me and
what I did forget is that as Julian is pitching
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it because Brooke is his wife, he pitches this story
of all these kids in high school in a way
that kind of sounds like a love letter to her.
And the first version, you know, when they tried to
make the movie really wasn't. She was so offended by
her character write up and it all went so badly
for them that they almost broke up. And I was like,
(07:33):
oh my god, look at the way he's pitching this.
This is so sweet, Like if i'd actually been her,
what I would have given to be a fly on
the wall for this moment. And I was really touched
by that. I didn't remember it.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Well.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
We didn't have James either.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Which is so weird, so weird.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
What was he doing because I know and I don't
remember what, and I'd be we should have asked him
in Paris?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Did he direct the episode before this? By chance? No,
he didn't, didn't I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I wasn't paying sorry that would pay attention.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
But he he had something going on this you know,
season nine special time season nine mini series, because he
negotiated to have a certain number of episodes.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Off, so you know that was the kidnapping storyline. Was
partially motivated by that. But I couldn't believe that one
of the episodes they gave him off was the second
to last one. I was like, hello, he must have
been filming or something and needed the week. I will say, though, Joy,
you did such a beautiful job making Nathan's absence work
(08:40):
as Haley, because the way that you shared you know
what was essentially expository writing to explain why he's gone,
you grounded it in such a place of I've really
been through something with my person, but our kid has
(09:00):
been through it too.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, and you put a real weight behind that. And
so even though it felt strange as a viewer to
have Nathan missing, your explanation of why and what Jamie
needed and how you have to prioritize your kid above
even yourself made the whole thing work for me. So
it hats off to you.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Oh thanks, I think it's a reasonable I mean, we
know as AFEs were like, wait, we missed our character
in the show, But yeah, it is plausible for sure.
I think as a family, that's just what they would
have needed. And I really enjoyed seeing Haley just happy
with Lydia. It wasn't all the stress around the baby.
It feels like since Lydia was born there was just stress, stress, stress, stress, dress.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
So this was nice.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Plus I had my breastfeeding body, which was super fun
to see, like all the baby weighted dropped off and
my boobs were big. I was like, oh that's fun.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You're like, hey, girl.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
You know who else's body was dramatic. Different was good
old Mouth.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Good old Mouth.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Thank god we put that fat suit to bed.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, I'm sure he was thrilled as well.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Oh to see Mouth and Milly in a scene that
wasn't about that ridiculous storyline was yeah, so nice.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, them really getting back to themselves. And I loved that.
The run, even though it came from a storyline we hated,
gave us the device to get to the river court
with all the boys because seeing them get back on
the court and Mouth doing his announcing like he did
in season one, even in the pilot, it hits you
(10:38):
with that nostalgia and you remember how far these friends
have come together, and you know now so many of
them have kids, and it's like, oh my god. Again,
just thinking about what we wanted to call back from
the beginning of the show as we were wrapping it up,
I thought it was a great device for the writers
to put all the boys there and then to bring
(11:00):
Milli there and for that to be the place where
she said to him, you miss sports, and yes I
want to work with you, and yes I want to
be with you every day, but I know you enough
and love you enough to know what you need, and
that it wound up being, you know, the joke of
like you're trying to get me fired, Like the whole
thing just played so perfectly. But it really struck me
(11:22):
watching it that I'm so happy we shot that scene
at the river court because in a way, without having
to say it, Milly was meeting a part of mouth
that predates her, but it's so central to who he is,
and that's how your locations can become characters in your story,
and I thought it really it just really added something
(11:45):
for me watching it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Back now every time there on the river court, and
there was quite a bit of that in this episode.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, we didn't use.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
It as much as I wish we had over the
last few seasons, same because it is such a central
piece and I get that the boys weren't really playing
basketball anymore, so it just became this place that sometimes
character would go, characters would go to stop and think
because it was in case they used.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
To go, which is sweet.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
But yeah, I was really happy to see that in
this episode.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
And you and I had had a scene there.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
About that.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It was so windy, but it felt like it was
only windy on my side. I don't know if you
noticed this.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
No, every time.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
They shot to you, your hair was perfect, your makeup
is perfect.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
The sun wasn't in your eyes. It was just like ah.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
And then they cut to me and it was like
the the bizarro world version of it where I was like,
my eyes were you could see my mescara was down
on my eyes because my eyes were watering from the song.
And yeah, and my hair just could not be tamed,
and my felt like my makeup was you know, my
skin was like eating my makeup and all that. It
was like I felt like, who does she play in
(12:55):
Kate McKinnon and Barbie?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
What was this?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Oh messy Barbie or whatever like that.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, I totally felt like that when it made me laugh.
But it was a really sweet scene. I loved seeing
us together do that.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I loved it too. And I loved that because it
was the burning boat. It gave us the device of
people are going to go sit at the river court
and watch this thing get constructed. And I remember really,
you know, wanting to tell the story and the way
I wanted to tell it as a director, and really
wanting to fight for all these scenes to be there
(13:27):
no matter what, and then watching it back going. Oh yeah,
that's why they hated shooting at the River Court because
of the wind. Because we had to ad r all
the dialogue. We had to loop every single line. They
couldn't control the weather.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It was a pain trans bo too, because if it rained,
there was just we were in a pool everywhere you walked.
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Speaker 5 (14:13):
I have a question about the burning boat of it all,
because I have only ever known like a burning boat
type ceremony, like a Viking funeral to be when the
boat is actually on the water. It's kind of the
point of it. It can burn itself all the way
into the water. So I was very surprised when it
was a landlocked ship. So was there ever talk in
(14:33):
this episode of it actually being a floating boat.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
No, because we had done a burning boat just like
this in the high school years and it was in
the exact same place.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Oh so it's like a town tradition.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, So when you open your speech, you know when
Haley's talking and says, you know, welcome back to our tradition.
We haven't seen it in I don't know, seven or
eight seasons, but apparently we do it every year. That's
the fireproof platform on the bricks Man.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
They really missed that too, because that would have been
a fun thing to do, Like everybody's guaranteed at the
end of every season there's a burning boat episode and
what's going to happen and all the drama.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Also, it's the ninety third annual burning boat. You're telling
me they were burning boats on land and the like
you know in nineteen hundred, Like, no, come on, you
know that they were pushing those things out. They didn't
have a fireproof area. But regardless, it still looked great.
But as soon as I started watching that and I
saw that it wasn't going to go to the water,
was like, I got asked, so if she if she
(15:33):
was pushing for that to be on water, and maybe
it was just like logistically impossible or something.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's a little logistically
impossible because you know, when you remove the movie magic
of it, the boat is burning most of the time
with gas lines like little pipes that are letting flames out.
You can really see it when it starts. It's like
little fingers of fire that aren't really touching anything. And
(15:58):
they don't burn the boat for a day because you're
filming all the stuff that happens before they really soak
it in whatever they soak it in and light it
on fire. And so the boat ironically has to burn
but also not burn. So it's part of the reason
they keep it on land because they've got all the
tanks underneath it and all the things that allow them
(16:20):
to control the fire for However, many nights of filming
prior to the actual burn you have to do. And
so that was a weird thing too, logistically, sitting with
the producers and going, well, how are we going to
burn the boat for hours before we burn the boat?
Like fires fire?
Speaker 5 (16:39):
What do you mean? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
And if you spray it down then it doesn't relight
all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So there were all these crazy things that we had
to do, and there is there is one moment when
it starts to burn and you can really just see
that it's all the gas line tubes that made me
cringe then and makes me cringe now. Because they were like,
don't worry, we'll never use the very beginning. And I'm like,
you used the very beginning.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You never believe them when they say that. Never believe them, actors,
when people tell you will never use it, do not
believe the lies.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Terrible to the end.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Though, I did not notice that shot, so that's you
only noticed it because you are aware of it. I
don't I doubt anyone else unless it's a fan who's
watching it back for the fourth time or something.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's like, why does the fire look weird? Yeah? Yes,
you know what, I really do love about the boat.
As much as I hated the rigging, I love that
it gave us a central place for people to gather,
Like Joy was saying, you know, even the Chase and
Haley run ins, you know, seeing Brooke and Victoria. I
forgot about the gag with the golf clubs for us
(17:43):
and trying to haul those up into the boat together
is so funny to me. And just watching everybody come
to this place to put something down, to try to
get rid of something, and then Antoine being our star
comedian with CDs. It's such a good device, the traditional moment.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah, And also that's such a relatable human moment that
of course someone is just gonna come and want to
just dump their trash. Of course they are.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I mean these that.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Might not be good for the environment or yeah, for
the cause.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I mean such a funny moment between the two of you,
joy because you having to be like, no, you can't
burn these, and you're like but why and you're like
with it and him leaving and you having to push
the box down behind the pirate. There were moments that
I remember thinking, because of the set deck we had,
like I want some of these moments to almost feel
(18:40):
a little campy, like Pirates of the Caribbean. And that
was one of the moments that really worked for me.
And then I forgot that the payoff of you getting
stuck with the CDs was finding the friends with benefit.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yes, I love that, and even bringing Peyton back into
the frame just was seeing her on the post her.
I feel like they did that every chance they could
on the show and just bring in, you know, the
people that we loved that weren't there anymore. That made
me happy to see they open that poster.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
It's like, oh that's so sweet.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yeah, speaking of bringing people back, we had a fun
little one episode cameo by miss Sasha Jackson Kylie, Yes, yes,
where I was like, what, oh okay, here's this character now?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Was she on the show before?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Yeah? She was like a sort of a fling of Clays.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
She's the one who swims naked in his pool.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
That's right. Oh okay, that.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Makes Quinn dumps as Smoothie on.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Man, I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I guess just of all the storylines that I'm trying
to hold in my brain, that one didn't stick in.
But that makes so much more sense because my notes
are like, why are we not that I don't love?
You know, she's a lovely actress. But I was like,
why are we wasting time on new characters that we
don't know? Like we've got one episode left or two
episodes now? Like what we've got these twins that we're
now we're looking at this Australian girl. I'm like, what's
(20:05):
going on? Why are we not paying attention to us?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
It was like the cameos for people that we loved
through the seasons. Yes.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Yes. The one thing I like about that though, is
that we actually gave her being there, gave Jerry an
opportunity to actually do something for once, and he was
very funny.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
With it, very funny, which I.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Feel like he's been around so long that he deserved
to have something that's like fun as opposed to just
like you shouldn't have done that, You're fired, You're on
thin ice, you know. Yeah, you actually got to be
funny and be the butt of a joke. And you know,
it was great, And of course we managed to put
her in a bikini at the end of it.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Of course us with the chicken head, with the chicken head, why.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Even the chicken head got a cameo.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Again, that's the way to look at it.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
But another great moment from that runner was when she
freezes on air and just goes winker. And then later
when it's Mills and skills. Incredible according he pretends to
freeze and says winker and you're like, no way, it's
happening again. He's like, nah, I'm just messing with you.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Immediately, great, Immediately, he's the best.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I completely forgot that we got a million skills together. Yeah,
and that well, then it turned into mouth and skills, like, wait,
am I saying it wrong?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Mills and skills, Mills and skills and that's what he
comes up with after his faux freeze. Yeah, he's like,
I'm just messing with you. You got mills and skills,
and he's just like he's got the ad libs.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
He's already oh yeah, yeah, he knows for this job.
I just love seeing them together again, and love that
we gave Antoine something to do that was like real
and integral, you know, getting back into involved in the
storyline where he has he's going to have some agency
and actually something to do rather than just reacting to
(22:09):
everybody else's stuff. I thought that was always that's always
really fun.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I also loved that that came about from Millie and
Mouth standing up to Jerry and Jerry getting his real
great comedy moment and then saying, well, fine, you come
up with a co host and in unison immediately they
both say skills. It's like, yeah, they know what the
show needs, they know what the town needs, and it's
(22:33):
it's right. It's like a perfectly correct move. And then
you see the payoff at how good he is and
it I don't know, maybe I'm thinking about it because
I just interviewed Carson Daly on my other show and
was talking about like our early TRL days and I
was like, oh my god, skills is giving me full
TRL Carson Daily VJ like perfection and it feels.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
How great was Julian in this episode?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That was my next thing. This dirty dancing moment was
so funny.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I always trying to.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Give a speech to your dad and he's like, I
will not let anyone put her in a corner, and
please don't stop taking me seriously because.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I just use a dirty dancing Yeah, despite my dirty
dancing references, I will continue to reprimand you for being
a less than father.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
And then and then even when you know, he's like
what kind of person would do that? Hint at rhymes
with thick, And then I like it was so funny.
That's it's somehow funny when he's also really land sticking
the landing of being like it's dick, which is funny
because like everyone knows what it is, but then he goes,
it's dick, Ted, You're a dick. You should be ashamed
(23:51):
of yourself, and I was like, that was so cathartic
to watch. I was like, oh my god, that would
like there was such a strong theme in this episode
of partners Yes and the way partners are friends and
their teammates and how they are showing up for each other.
It's Millie potentially losing her love as a co host
(24:12):
because she sees he could be happier doing something else.
Julian going to bat with Brook's dad because he knows
she deserves better. It's Quinn putting up the picture of Sarah.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Broke my heart. That was so good in the best way.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
This show. It's like we've talked about before, like this
show is about relationships, about and friendships. I think I
remember saying this like very early on doing this podcast
with you, But that's I saw so much of that.
I feel like when the show is really shining, it's
often around the theme of like friendships and relationships, and
this episode delivered like everyone got to have.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
That, Haley and Chase even so Brooks parents. Yes, like
the partnership that they were trying to figure out, Like, yes,
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
And something I really loved is that every single leading
man on our show took a beat to thank his
woman because we haven't seen that a lot, and Rob
you even talked about it a couple of weeks ago.
Even what Quinn has been patient with put up with
like the way people stay, you know, each of you,
(25:24):
You with her, and Julian with Brooke, and Lee with
and Mouth with Milly. You know, we had these scenes
where each man said, Hey, I need to tell you something.
I need to thank you for the way that you
show up. I need to thank you for the way
that you support me. I need to thank you for
the way that you believe in me. It and it
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was just so lovely and for all the grotesquely stereotypically
masculine ick we've gotten on our show over the years,
including putting Kylie in the bikini and the chicken head
in this episode, these were such moments of shining heroic
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masculine goodness and like emotional intelligence and it just it
was gorge Like. I loved watching all three of you
in those scenes. It was just like it was a
little boat for me.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I was really happy to see Clay and Quinn together,
like the way that you guys.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Felt.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
It felt like we were finally getting I guess I
said it before, like this family that we always finally
wanted you guys to settle into, and Logan coming in
and the model airplane, but the way that Quinn supported you,
even bringing in the photo and setting down the photo
of Sarah, and like, oh, it broke my heart in
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the best way. I just felt like, this is what
a real partner does, yea, I embrace.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
All of you in terms of the you know, Clay Banking, Quinn,
Julian Banking, Brook. I also I related to it. Yeah,
I identified with that, like I have that in my
own marriage, in my relationship, you know, where there are
moments where Jenny speaks confidence and support and to me
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at a time when like I really need it, you know,
and it's a team sport, and so our wins, our
team wins. So I just thought that was a nice
moment because not only was it beautiful, it's just it's
so real and authentic that I think a lot of
people can relate to. And and Pierce are you kidding Peers?
When he's looking at the ocean and he says, does
(27:43):
it does it get any closer? Because he's afraid of
the ocean, and he backs up, I was like this
protect this child that all.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Costs just so sweet and having the element you know,
as you as you're saying to honor all of a person,
you know, when you fall in love with someone who
comes from things, they bring those things into your relationship.
(28:13):
And to love someone who's been through grief is a
big thing. And to watch Clay and Quinn have navigated grief,
you know, and then all the jumping the shark stuff
in between, and now be navigating with this little boy.
To have the totality of it in this little cocoon,
that was one of the things that I remember talking
to set Deck about. And I really wanted the cocoon
(28:35):
to be a warm color by the tent, sorry, because
I wanted it to feel like a cocoon. And we
found this like butterfly wing orange tent so that it
would really feel like they went into this bubble and
they came out as a better version of something and
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it worked. And even like we made I don't if
you remember, Rob, but we made a projector light. We
did a stencil of the green lantern symbol and we
made a tiny projector light that we had to hide
in the in between you guys, in between yeah, like
the sleeping bags, so that when Pierce comes up into
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frame with the ring that you need to propose and
then she puts it on. We wanted to cheat that
like in a superhero movie, like a bat signal, the
ring would shine through the roof of the tent, but
we had to make a light to do it because
obviously it was like a teeny tiny thing that didn't
have that much power. And seeing it again, I remember
sitting in the chair watching You Guys on monitor like
(29:41):
in tears because it worked, but seeing it ten years later,
like watching as a fan on my Giant TV, I
was sobbing. I was like, Oh, it so special.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
They deserve this, and even to like the writing of it,
it was I love so there, Like there's just such respect,
right because I understand, first of all, Clay has no
idea what he's doing. He's just trying his best, as
is Quinn as his logan, right, But I understand why
Clay might not have put a picture of Sarah up
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because he's not sure how that's gonna make Quinn feel,
you know, and he's navigating this for the first time.
She's being incredibly supportive. So I'm like, I understand why
Clay might might not have done that respect. And then
I but the fact that Quinn is the one to
be like, yeah, I know this needs to be here,
she's showing like respect for Sarah and respect to Clay.
And and then the fact that then like that Logan
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then sort of gives permission for like them all to
be a family by taking the picture of the three
of them and putting it in the frame next to
Sarah was so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I'm smart.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Oh, it was so good.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I was thinking that I really missed seeing you guys
with everybody at the burning boat. But it felt so
right to have this time of rest and connection for
the three of you that as much as it was like, oh,
I wish it would have been fun to have like
all of our faces there, but this is what Quinn
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Clay needed. This is the cap on this long the bow,
if you will, on this long story, this long journey
that they've been on together.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, it was all right. And I appreciated that a
lot of the humor in the episode, which you needed
because you were getting such big emotional payoffs, I appreciated
that the humor wasn't so outlandish even with you three,
you know, trying to work with him to not be
afraid of the ocean, and you're like, oh my god,
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and he's here with us and his grandparents and he
can't sleep and it's the thing. And then his mom
who passed away, and you know, Quinn's like, it's the immensity.
I totally get it. And he's like I'm scared of sharks.
And it's like, oh, you're still good. It like let
you just a little of the emotional pressure out in
the most perfect way. That was so sweet, and you
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remember like, oh, yeah, he's he's also just six. Yeah,
he's a kid.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Totally do that as parents and adults like project all
this stuff like do you are you subconsciously feeling like like, no,
I'm just afraid of sharks.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
That's yeah. First of all, I don't know what immensity means.
The second of all, have you heard of sharks? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Sea monsters? Like it's just perfect.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
He Yeah, he was great. And as much as I
have issues with the road we took to get here, boy,
this is a really nice destination. And I was talking
with we were at a convention last weekend and I
was talking with some fans. I was finding myself asking like,
what's your favorite season? And it was really interesting to
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hear what people thought. And then someone asked me and
I was saying, you know, I've only seen seven eighty nine.
But I gotta say much as I have kind of
ripped on season nine for the first half of it,
it is giving such a strong finish that it is
becoming a contender for my favorite season.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. I also have to give
speaking of comedy, I have to give the most amazing
props to my parents.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Daphne. I know, I was gonna say, when you walk
into that.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Hotel room, Daphne and Richard just crushed this and even
it's funny when I realized, oh, this is the episode
where Brook catches them. I went back to watch us
putting the golf clubs in the boat, and she's like,
you know, maybe you should just hear about and she
has just a hint of something and I look at
her and she goes, you know, so we can make
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fun of him or whatever, you know, for nothing else
than to see him flailing in the wind like she covers.
But Daphney's so good that she had a little something
under what she was saying. Then, so when you when
you get into the hotel room, and it's like the
robe and then the bed, and then the hair, and
(34:07):
then the dune dune of the chocolate covered strawberries, which,
for whatever reason, are the hotel sex giveaway. It's she
just crushes crushes.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Let me give you some props because no one plays
horrified like you, and you are so good with comedy.
But I gotta tell you the you know, comedy comes
in threes, and so there's who when Richard comes out
shirtless looking like he's chiseled from stone. That's incredible. By
(34:41):
the way, what are you doing, sir? I mean making
all the right choices uparent right. I watched that scene,
was like I gotta go for a jog, honestly, but
so he so you so Brooke, you an amazing face,
and you're like, oh my god, and you leave the
room and there's a beat, and then Richard says, or
then Ted says to Victoria, funny, that's what you were
(35:03):
saying last night. There's our second. And then then from
out on the other side of the door, you hear
Brooke go.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Oh my god, yes, so good, and then Daphney picks
it up and goes, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
And it just the timing.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I remember when we were getting that and needing to
figure out how I could start to back out of
the room in just the right way so that he
could come out of the door and we could smack
into each other. And I and I remember telling Maddie,
our camera operator, when we do it, keep the frame
above his towel, because I want the audience for a
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minute to think Brooke has just slammed into her naked dad.
And then when we start to move, you see that
he has a towel around him. But for a moment
it's like, I mean, it's already the worst thing that
could happen, but it seems even worse. And then the
cacophony of oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh,
I like the build. You think it's over when Daphne
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does the slow burn one, and then when they walk
into Brook and Julian's and it happens again. It's like
that kind of comedic writing and timing is my very
favorite thing in the world to play.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Yeah. Oh, when he squeezes her butt when they are
leaving your apartment and then Julian does it, You're like,
no ah, so wait, I want to go back to
the beach scene for a second because I noticed, and
I'm just curious if you caught this or if you
remember this that when when Quinn is getting Logan to
(36:36):
walk out into the water, and we are shooting out
into the ocean. Did you notice that there was just
a random dude in the water in the background, like
a surfer. No, just like a dude. I didn't see that,
like half of a guy. And then it's funny because
then the camera kind of crops him out and I
was laughing, like I wonder if it was just someone swimming,
and you guys were like, get the rando out of
(36:58):
the shot, like, what are you doing, sir, which it's,
by the way, totally okay. Clay lives on a public beach. Yes,
it's funny because those moments you're not used to seeing
someone who's not in the show, just like casually filling
in the corner of a frame. So yeah, and when.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
They're cropped out like clearly, I say, mad dollar, cameraroberator.
I'm sure it was just like slightly moving the kid.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Let me do this slow so you don't really notice,
but I fixed the problem. That's so great.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I love seeing I love watching that on shows when
you can spot a problem and you see the camera
just slightly moving.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Comedy didn't stop there because we had all Chase bringing
it with the totally not a cry for help runner,
that scene with Haley, which was he was so good
in this episode. I mean we say this, it was
even all the time, but so under It was funny
but also really grounded.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah, he just never tries too hard. It makes me
so happy when I watch him, like I can relax.
You know, there's there's an anxiety I feel as if
you were when I'm watching an actor that I feel
like is trying really hard. I just get a little like,
I don't know what, what is your expectation of me?
And like not even the same room with the person
that it was filmed, you know, a year ago, but
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I'm watching it like.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Oh god, I don't know how to react to this.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, but Steven's just so easy to watch because he's
he's just so unconcerned with anything.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
I mean, he's just so natural. I don't know how
else to say it.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I also like that he leaned into the stress and
the nervousness and nothing is working and I don't know
how I'm going to pay for all of this. You know,
these are real world problems and he's leaning into them
with you know, the best listener he's talking to Haley,
but also like Haley's a rock star, he's married to
a basketball player. And then it's like that dawns on
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him and he looks at you and just so deadpan,
not a cry for help. It's like I did, I'm
not meaning to stress you out for as much as
I'm stressed out. And it's the dryness that makes it
so funny but also lets you hold the the emotion
underneath it. It's so well played on his.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Part, and also a hilarious, very small hint of a
callback to Haley working at the crisis center.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, good old Hailey, always there
for advice when someone needs it.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Did we ever find out? Because I know at the end,
you know, Haley's like, what if you just what if
the bar was yours? Like what if you just bought it?
Speaker 7 (39:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Yeah, I'm broke, So no, And Haley said some of
the effect of like I have an idea about that.
We didn't hear the plan for that, correct, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
She just goes to Karen I guess yeah, and has
a conversation with her, which definitely annoyed me that we
didn't have Moiro back on the show for that episode.
I don't know remember if we got her back for
the next one, but we'll find out.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Well, the pebble that we drop is the Friends with
Benefit flyer that you find. Yeah, and obviously we know
how the next epist, so it ends, so you can
kind of imagine that we do a big fundraiser to
buy the bar. I would bet okay, yeah, bet is
the is the plan. It's it's very cool the nods
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to high school, and you know, they managed to tell
a story. I do wish we'd had Moira. I remember
a few things, you know, just sort of from behind
the scenes directing, Like I'd wanted a photo. I'd wanted
Haley to get a text message of a photo of
Nathan and Jamie camping, like we could have just taken
(40:39):
it in the back of the studio against a tree,
like And it was one of those things. Because we
were wrapping in November and then these episodes were going
to air like March and April. They were like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we'll get it. And then I watched the final cut
and I'm like, nobody, nobody remembered my note. And there
was a thing as well where I remember because of
the boat the way we did it. They hadn't set
(41:01):
up like a like a side container to do inserts
of burning. We were going to do it at the studio,
and then we ran out of time and then they
were like, oh, we'll do it during the finale, and
then obviously it didn't happen. So you miss Brook's diary burning,
which was one of those things I wanted because the
diary was such a runner in the episode. Yeah, and
(41:23):
I loved that it called us back kind of like
The Boys and the River Court. I love that we
got the call back to the early seasons because Rob
there's this voiceover that I have. I think it's maybe
top of season three, or maybe it's season two, running
like in the morning, sneaking out of a boy's house
that I've slept over at, sneaking back into mind, being like,
(41:43):
you know, good girls keep diaries and bad girls don't
have time. So that's why when Brooke brings Julie in
the diary and is like, I used to say, I
didn't keep one of these. It's just because I didn't
want anyone to find it. And then you hear about
all the turmoil at home and the parents, the parents
arguments and and you know, we don't talk to each other,
(42:04):
we've never sat together. That's the runner that gets you
to the end again, our final picnic table moment at
the river court with this family finally sitting together. And
I was like, my burning journal shot is missing from
this moment right before the fireworks. But it's fire I'll
get over it.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
I did love that moment though, I mean the over
the shoulder shot of those you three, like just onto
the burning boat, onto up into the fireworks. The big
crane shot was it a crane or a drone? At
the h that was a crane number and.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Those were viz effects, right, Yeah, the fireworks were fake.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
But what do you think was on the one page
of Brook's diary that she tore out wouldn't let Julian.
Speaker 8 (42:48):
See I I would imagine here's my thought, because there
was the overlap in season six where Julian and Lucas
worked together.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I imagine it was a story about Lucas and she was like,
let's not, let's not burn that into my husband's memory,
like because not only to rip it out, but then
to eat it to stop it from seeing it. Yeah,
that's what I think.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
So fusciting.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
We had fun on this show. I do remember shooting
this episode. It's like not a super clear, but I
do feel the nostalgia that we all felt when we
were walking around downtown, like, oh my gosh, we're doing
another burning boat. Oh my gosh, this is almost over.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Really it was like a time when we were all
really soaking up our time with each other, knowing that
we only had one more left. Yeah, it's only a
few weeks left. It really kicked into our brains a
lot of us. I think all of a sudden, we're like, Okay,
we're not dealing with crazy storylines. We don't have anything
insane happening where we really have to focus and be
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stressed out long hours or late nights or it was
just we were just hanging all together really good.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
It's just so sweet.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Only one more left.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Only one more left.
Speaker 9 (44:11):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Cody's question is One Tree Hill was my show growing up.
Everyone knew it. That night each week the family TV
was mine. I wept when the series ended. Otch absolutely
shaped me in a lot of ways. When it ended,
I felt like a little part of me died. I
know I'm being dramatic, but I learned from the best.
I want to know, what is your One Tree Hill?
(44:47):
What is the show, movie, book, etc. That shaped you
and played a massively influential role in your life.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Oh my gosh, I wish i'd read this question before.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Now I know to think about it answers in chunks,
So like college, going into filming One Tree Hill, Sex
and the City was it for me. I'd never seen
women's stories told that way, women shot that way, women
centered that way. It really influenced so much of how
I felt about our show. I think about after our
(45:20):
show wrapped, being home and Jenny and I going like
so deep on Orphan Black and just being obsessed and watching,
you know, was what was possible in story? And then
I think about, you know, in my adult life, like lately,
it's the books that have really impacted me, like Maggie
Smith's book You Could Make This Place Beautiful, like it
(45:45):
is like a religious text for me prior to that,
in between these times Cheryl stra Tiny Beautiful Things. I
read it every year once a year. It's a tradition,
Like I think, there are the stories that find you
for these moments in your life, and I think it's
why hearing things like this from people like you, Cody
is so meaningful because for us to have been such
(46:07):
a part of your life is I don't know, like
we have that and it's really profound. So thank you
for sharing. What do you guys have? Do you do
them in chunks too, or do you think it's like
one thing?
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, mine's in chunks.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
I mean it doesn't have the same emotional weight. But
I love Lucy really. I mean, I just I grew
up watching it from when I was a kid, and
I continue to watch it. It's still on in my
house on Saturday mornings.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
It's just.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
She's just such a genius and it's so fun. I
never stopped laughing at it. And The Twilight Zone, I think.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Really I always.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Had a very even from when I was a kid
or like adolescent, the concept of mortality was not a
fearful thing for me. So I wasn't afraid of them,
cob or the things that were bizarre.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
I was really intrigued and wanted to understand more.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
So I really liked The Twilight Zone because it explored
a lot of those.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
Themes in a way that was fun. Yeah, And then.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
I mean, I'm trying to think of the thing that
really got me emotional. The show that ended that I
felt emotional. I was like, how am I going to
how am I going to keep moving after this is done.
I'm kind of embarrassed to say it because I feel like.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
You guys are laugh at me. But it's so cliche
Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Okay, I'm sorry, it's so cliche as mad as your show.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
But like I was, okay, I was going through my
divorce while like Tyry and Lanister was gidding, was just
like getting beaten down, beaten down, and I was like,
I just desperately need an underdog to win in something
in my life. I need to see that, like really
amazing things can happen for people that are like down
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at their worst. Yea, And he won that battle, like
the huge battle. If you're a fan of Game Thrones,
that you know which one I'm talking about. I don't
even know how to name them because I wasn't that
kind of a fan where I knew the details. I
just was like a character fan. But he basically wins
this massive, massive, massive battle for his family or is
(48:22):
it for someone else's family?
Speaker 4 (48:23):
I can't even remember.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
It was a huge battle that he won and he's
this tiny guy. And then as a story kept going,
I just fell so deeply in love with these characters
and their humanity and it deeply connected with me. So
when it was over, I was really sad. I felt
like I lost a lot of friends all of a sudden.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
Yeah, man, I would rob me the same with Chunks.
And as far as things being influential, it's really it's
been all comedies for me because like I remember watched
the first time I watched Wet Hot American Summer. Oh,
there were jokes in that that I remember thinking, I
didn't know you could do that. Like I remember ending
(49:04):
that movie and I felt like, oh, like new neural pathways,
new wrinkles are in my brain because I wasn't even
aware that that was an option. Like it was like
someone went, hey, by the way, we have four new
colors of crayons, and I was like, holy seriously, so
like that like kiss Kiss, Bang Bang. I had never
seen humor and dialogue intertwined so seamlessly, and I was like,
(49:28):
I guess this is an option. We can do this,
you know, and then.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
It's like the West Wing, Yes, yes.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
Arrested development. I was like I had no idea we
could do this. So for me, it's been comedies where
like I feel like, oh, like there's been a new
part of my brain has opened up that I can
now play in that I didn't even know existed.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yeah, I love that, especially, You're right, comedy can crack
expectation in a way that I think sometimes drama doesn't.
Like Harter, I had that same feeling watching Parks and
Rec I was like, this can be work, this can
be what we do. Oh my god, like, oh, it's
(50:09):
so fun.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
It's probably also because I think humor is my strike zone, Like,
it's my love language, it's my self defense tool. It's
kind of my Swiss army knife. So I think it
makes sense that the most impactful stuff has been when
it is geared towards that. You know.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah, great question, that's such a good question.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
I guess let's spin a wheel, guys, let's.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Do it second to last wheel.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
Oh, this one is great. Most likely to text their
ex during mercury retro grade.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
That's so funny.
Speaker 5 (50:53):
I'm going to say it's not any of the boys,
because I don't think any of us would know when
mercury is in retrograde.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
I don't usually know either. I mean, I guess sometimes
I feel weird and then I find out later that
mercury was in retrograde and I'm like, oh, I guess
that's what happening.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
You know what character I actually think it is Chase. Yeah,
that boy loves to text his ex.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
That's very on point for this episode.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
And you know what, who's going to be talking more
about mercury retrograde than some sad person sitting at a bar,
so he would overhear it and probably get a little
swept away in the story and then decide to text
one of the ladies who he was deleting from his
phone in this very episode.
Speaker 5 (51:33):
Perfect, that's the answer. Sign all right, join us next
week because we have Oh my god, that's a big
episode in that it's the final episode Season nine, Episode thirteen.
Couldn't think of a better title, One Tree.
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Hill, Oh my God, I'm gonna cry. Okay, see you
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Well. Well, gosh, Sophia, they gave you the Burning Boat episode,
the penultimate episode.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
It made me so emotional to watch this.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
You guys, me too.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
This was a great app oh man.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Alright, Season nine, episode twelve, Anyone who had a Heart
All of Us Air date March twenty eight, twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Okay, As Haley prepares.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
To mc the annual tree Hill Burning Boat Festival, Brook
uses this opportunity to process her father's betrayal, while Julian
tries to breathe new life into a path. Idea Mouth
and Millie make a change, and what a change it
is to their morning show, and Clay and Quinn get
ready for Logan's first night at the beach house. Director
(01:10):
Sofia bush Oh which was.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Me written by Brian L.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Riding's well, he was a new writer on the show.
I guess right, I don't recognize it.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
I recognize yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I think he was new for our last season. And
what a great episode. The callbacks to early season nostalgia,
the kind of lessons you see all of these adults
that we've grown up with processing. I just I loved
(01:42):
it so so.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Much, and there were so many pieces of nostalgia that
were intentionally dropped in. I mean, watching the boys on
the river court, watching Brooke and Victoria back together, Mouth
and Milly back together, well, Hayley with Lydia a lot
was great too. Being able to see I love that
they just like threw Chase and Haley together for this
whole episode since Nathan.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Was not around.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It was so sweet.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
And being able to.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
See Quinn and Clay finally coming together as a family,
the family they've always wanted to be with Logan included now.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Getting to see Richard Burgee with his shirt off.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I mean right, what like Okay, that.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Was the shirtless hunk this show had been missing the time,
how sir?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I know, you know, it was really fun to watch
the There's so much I remember about the episode obviously
because I directed it, and because it was so close
to the end and there was so much that I
had hanging around in my brain and in my heart
about what I wanted to make sure it felt like
(02:51):
as we began to you know, close the box and
then put the bow on it and wrap up our show.
And it was really fun going into it thinking oh,
I can't wait to remember all of this, and then
to still be surprised. I forgot that Julian was doing
this practice pitch to Brook and then it did that
(03:13):
great transition to find him in the pitch. What I
remembered as soon as it started is Peter Kowalski, our
DP and I worked really hard on these these kinds
of cool trick shots where the camera's pulling back but
also zooming in and it kind of changes the way
the movements feel across the long dining room table at
(03:34):
Brook and Julian's house, and instantly I remembered this moment,
you know, standing in my wardrobe behind video village watching
them do it with second team and being like, Okay,
it's working. Oh my god, we got it. This is
going to be so great. And like those little things
that put energy you know, in the opening of the episode,
I wanted the energy to feel up. I wanted it
(03:56):
to feel happy, and I think it did.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
It really did.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
And when you transition to him being in the actual boardroom, Yeah,
was that because there's a there's a picture over Julian's
shoulder and it is either it either is or it's
very intentionally reminiscent of the Warner Brothers water Tower, Yeah, which,
by the way, was a part of One Tree Hill,
(04:24):
which is part of the c W you know. So
I wasn't certain if we were allowed to reference that
or if you were just cheekily put in something that
was nearly identical to it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That I would imagine that was a decision made by
the producers. I do know we all were like, he's
like pitching the WB right, Like that's what we're doing.
And I liked in a way that the pitch got
to go so well, and also that it felt light
despite the fact obviously that our writers were trying to
(04:53):
poke fun at you know, Twilight and the Vampire Diaries
and everything else. It worked. Austin delivered it so much
humor and the kind of coyness between Brooke and Julian.
I think overshadowed what might have seemed petty on the page,
and then when he's in the room and her feedback,
which seems silly and flirtatious, actually works, and then we
(05:17):
make fun of ourselves and he's like, it doesn't have
to be in a conference room, we can be in
a hot tub. Like it just felt very correct.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Here's my pitch that I think this was a missed
opportunity because we were at the end of our show.
We totally could have done a spinoff that was the
filmed version, yes, like Julian's version.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yes, Ravens.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Absolutely, it could have started a whole.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
New series where we just like took the characters in
different directions as you do, and named them different ways.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
It could have been like The Office. You could have
watched everyone film a TV show. You know, you could
have been the filming of the TV show. Could have
been a really funny, funny thing.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Even just like the meta. It would been so meta.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
As a fan as well, it would have been cool
for Lucas to have been back at least some capacity,
seeing as how it's his book that's being pitched, even
if it's just him and Julian like talking it out
or something. Yeah, I think the fans would have loved that,
and like, that's the most organic way to have him
(06:25):
be there, you know, it's his books.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yes, especially because we did get that years ago. You know,
we had Lucas and Julian working together, trying to make
a project together. It was the whole We got James
Vanderbeek to come in as the you know, the worst
director ever. We've seen it and it's worked, and it
would have been really fun to nod to that that
(06:49):
moment when oh, we didn't get to make Ravens as
a movie, you know, and unkindness of Ravens as a movie,
and now Julian's going to do it as a show.
It would have been so cool to offer that it
was working. To the writer, what I will say is
not having that character come back. What touched me and
what I did forget is that as Julian is pitching
(07:11):
it because Brooke is his wife, he pitches this story
of all these kids in high school in a way
that kind of sounds like a love letter to her.
And the first version, you know, when they tried to
make the movie really wasn't. She was so offended by
her character write up and it all went so badly
for them that they almost broke up. And I was like,
(07:33):
oh my god, look at the way he's pitching this.
This is so sweet, Like if i'd actually been her,
what I would have given to be a fly on
the wall for this moment. And I was really touched
by that. I didn't remember it.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Well.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
We didn't have James either.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Which is so weird, so weird.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
What was he doing because I know and I don't
remember what, and I'd be we should have asked him
in Paris?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Did he direct the episode before this? By chance? No,
he didn't, didn't I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I wasn't paying sorry that would pay attention.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
But he he had something going on this you know,
season nine special time season nine mini series, because he
negotiated to have a certain number of episodes.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Off, so you know that was the kidnapping storyline. Was
partially motivated by that. But I couldn't believe that one
of the episodes they gave him off was the second
to last one. I was like, hello, he must have
been filming or something and needed the week. I will say, though, Joy,
you did such a beautiful job making Nathan's absence work
(08:40):
as Haley, because the way that you shared you know
what was essentially expository writing to explain why he's gone,
you grounded it in such a place of I've really
been through something with my person, but our kid has
(09:00):
been through it too.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, and you put a real weight behind that. And
so even though it felt strange as a viewer to
have Nathan missing, your explanation of why and what Jamie
needed and how you have to prioritize your kid above
even yourself made the whole thing work for me. So
it hats off to you.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Oh thanks, I think it's a reasonable I mean, we
know as AFEs were like, wait, we missed our character
in the show, But yeah, it is plausible for sure.
I think as a family, that's just what they would
have needed. And I really enjoyed seeing Haley just happy
with Lydia. It wasn't all the stress around the baby.
It feels like since Lydia was born there was just stress, stress, stress, stress, dress.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
So this was nice.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Plus I had my breastfeeding body, which was super fun
to see, like all the baby weighted dropped off and
my boobs were big. I was like, oh that's fun.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You're like, hey, girl.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
You know who else's body was dramatic. Different was good
old Mouth.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Good old Mouth.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Thank god we put that fat suit to bed.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, I'm sure he was thrilled as well.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Oh to see Mouth and Milly in a scene that
wasn't about that ridiculous storyline was yeah, so nice.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, them really getting back to themselves. And I loved that.
The run, even though it came from a storyline we hated,
gave us the device to get to the river court
with all the boys because seeing them get back on
the court and Mouth doing his announcing like he did
in season one, even in the pilot, it hits you
(10:38):
with that nostalgia and you remember how far these friends
have come together, and you know now so many of
them have kids, and it's like, oh my god. Again,
just thinking about what we wanted to call back from
the beginning of the show as we were wrapping it up,
I thought it was a great device for the writers
to put all the boys there and then to bring
(11:00):
Milli there and for that to be the place where
she said to him, you miss sports, and yes I
want to work with you, and yes I want to
be with you every day, but I know you enough
and love you enough to know what you need, and
that it wound up being, you know, the joke of
like you're trying to get me fired, Like the whole
thing just played so perfectly. But it really struck me
(11:22):
watching it that I'm so happy we shot that scene
at the river court because in a way, without having
to say it, Milly was meeting a part of mouth
that predates her, but it's so central to who he is,
and that's how your locations can become characters in your story,
and I thought it really it just really added something
(11:45):
for me watching it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Back now every time there on the river court, and
there was quite a bit of that in this episode.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, we didn't use.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
It as much as I wish we had over the
last few seasons, same because it is such a central
piece and I get that the boys weren't really playing
basketball anymore, so it just became this place that sometimes
character would go, characters would go to stop and think
because it was in case they used.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
To go, which is sweet.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
But yeah, I was really happy to see that in
this episode.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
And you and I had had a scene there.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
About that.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It was so windy, but it felt like it was
only windy on my side. I don't know if you
noticed this.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
No, every time.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
They shot to you, your hair was perfect, your makeup
is perfect.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
The sun wasn't in your eyes. It was just like ah.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
And then they cut to me and it was like
the the bizarro world version of it where I was like,
my eyes were you could see my mescara was down
on my eyes because my eyes were watering from the song.
And yeah, and my hair just could not be tamed,
and my felt like my makeup was you know, my
skin was like eating my makeup and all that. It
was like I felt like, who does she play in
(12:55):
Kate McKinnon and Barbie?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
What was this?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Oh messy Barbie or whatever like that.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, I totally felt like that when it made me laugh.
But it was a really sweet scene. I loved seeing
us together do that.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I loved it too. And I loved that because it
was the burning boat. It gave us the device of
people are going to go sit at the river court
and watch this thing get constructed. And I remember really,
you know, wanting to tell the story and the way
I wanted to tell it as a director, and really
wanting to fight for all these scenes to be there
(13:27):
no matter what, and then watching it back going. Oh yeah,
that's why they hated shooting at the River Court because
of the wind. Because we had to ad r all
the dialogue. We had to loop every single line. They
couldn't control the weather.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It was a pain trans bo too, because if it rained,
there was just we were in a pool everywhere you walked.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
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Speaker 5 (14:13):
I have a question about the burning boat of it all,
because I have only ever known like a burning boat
type ceremony, like a Viking funeral to be when the
boat is actually on the water. It's kind of the
point of it. It can burn itself all the way
into the water. So I was very surprised when it
was a landlocked ship. So was there ever talk in
(14:33):
this episode of it actually being a floating boat.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
No, because we had done a burning boat just like
this in the high school years and it was in
the exact same place.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Oh so it's like a town tradition.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, So when you open your speech, you know when
Haley's talking and says, you know, welcome back to our tradition.
We haven't seen it in I don't know, seven or
eight seasons, but apparently we do it every year. That's
the fireproof platform on the bricks Man.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
They really missed that too, because that would have been
a fun thing to do, Like everybody's guaranteed at the
end of every season there's a burning boat episode and
what's going to happen and all the drama.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Also, it's the ninety third annual burning boat. You're telling
me they were burning boats on land and the like
you know in nineteen hundred, Like, no, come on, you
know that they were pushing those things out. They didn't
have a fireproof area. But regardless, it still looked great.
But as soon as I started watching that and I
saw that it wasn't going to go to the water,
was like, I got asked, so if she if she
(15:33):
was pushing for that to be on water, and maybe
it was just like logistically impossible or something.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's a little logistically
impossible because you know, when you remove the movie magic
of it, the boat is burning most of the time
with gas lines like little pipes that are letting flames out.
You can really see it when it starts. It's like
little fingers of fire that aren't really touching anything. And
(15:58):
they don't burn the boat for a day because you're
filming all the stuff that happens before they really soak
it in whatever they soak it in and light it
on fire. And so the boat ironically has to burn
but also not burn. So it's part of the reason
they keep it on land because they've got all the
tanks underneath it and all the things that allow them
(16:20):
to control the fire for However, many nights of filming
prior to the actual burn you have to do. And
so that was a weird thing too, logistically, sitting with
the producers and going, well, how are we going to
burn the boat for hours before we burn the boat?
Like fires fire?
Speaker 5 (16:39):
What do you mean? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
And if you spray it down then it doesn't relight
all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So there were all these crazy things that we had
to do, and there is there is one moment when
it starts to burn and you can really just see
that it's all the gas line tubes that made me
cringe then and makes me cringe now. Because they were like,
don't worry, we'll never use the very beginning. And I'm like,
you used the very beginning.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You never believe them when they say that. Never believe them, actors,
when people tell you will never use it, do not
believe the lies.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Terrible to the end.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Though, I did not notice that shot, so that's you
only noticed it because you are aware of it. I
don't I doubt anyone else unless it's a fan who's
watching it back for the fourth time or something.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's like, why does the fire look weird? Yeah? Yes,
you know what, I really do love about the boat.
As much as I hated the rigging, I love that
it gave us a central place for people to gather,
Like Joy was saying, you know, even the Chase and
Haley run ins, you know, seeing Brooke and Victoria. I
forgot about the gag with the golf clubs for us
(17:43):
and trying to haul those up into the boat together
is so funny to me. And just watching everybody come
to this place to put something down, to try to
get rid of something, and then Antoine being our star
comedian with CDs. It's such a good device, the traditional moment.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah, And also that's such a relatable human moment that
of course someone is just gonna come and want to
just dump their trash. Of course they are.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I mean these that.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Might not be good for the environment or yeah, for
the cause.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I mean such a funny moment between the two of you,
joy because you having to be like, no, you can't
burn these, and you're like but why and you're like
with it and him leaving and you having to push
the box down behind the pirate. There were moments that
I remember thinking, because of the set deck we had,
like I want some of these moments to almost feel
(18:40):
a little campy, like Pirates of the Caribbean. And that
was one of the moments that really worked for me.
And then I forgot that the payoff of you getting
stuck with the CDs was finding the friends with benefit.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yes, I love that, and even bringing Peyton back into
the frame just was seeing her on the post her.
I feel like they did that every chance they could
on the show and just bring in, you know, the
people that we loved that weren't there anymore. That made
me happy to see they open that poster.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
It's like, oh that's so sweet.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yeah, speaking of bringing people back, we had a fun
little one episode cameo by miss Sasha Jackson Kylie, Yes, yes,
where I was like, what, oh okay, here's this character now?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Was she on the show before?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Yeah? She was like a sort of a fling of Clays.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
She's the one who swims naked in his pool.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
That's right. Oh okay, that.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Makes Quinn dumps as Smoothie on.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Man, I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I guess just of all the storylines that I'm trying
to hold in my brain, that one didn't stick in.
But that makes so much more sense because my notes
are like, why are we not that I don't love?
You know, she's a lovely actress. But I was like,
why are we wasting time on new characters that we
don't know? Like we've got one episode left or two
episodes now? Like what we've got these twins that we're
now we're looking at this Australian girl. I'm like, what's
(20:05):
going on? Why are we not paying attention to us?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
It was like the cameos for people that we loved
through the seasons. Yes.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Yes. The one thing I like about that though, is
that we actually gave her being there, gave Jerry an
opportunity to actually do something for once, and he was
very funny.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
With it, very funny, which I.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Feel like he's been around so long that he deserved
to have something that's like fun as opposed to just
like you shouldn't have done that, You're fired, You're on
thin ice, you know. Yeah, you actually got to be
funny and be the butt of a joke. And you know,
it was great, And of course we managed to put
her in a bikini at the end of it.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Of course us with the chicken head, with the chicken head, why.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Even the chicken head got a cameo.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Again, that's the way to look at it.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
But another great moment from that runner was when she
freezes on air and just goes winker. And then later
when it's Mills and skills. Incredible according he pretends to
freeze and says winker and you're like, no way, it's
happening again. He's like, nah, I'm just messing with you.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Immediately, great, Immediately, he's the best.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I completely forgot that we got a million skills together. Yeah,
and that well, then it turned into mouth and skills, like, wait,
am I saying it wrong?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Mills and skills, Mills and skills and that's what he
comes up with after his faux freeze. Yeah, he's like,
I'm just messing with you. You got mills and skills,
and he's just like he's got the ad libs.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
He's already oh yeah, yeah, he knows for this job.
I just love seeing them together again, and love that
we gave Antoine something to do that was like real
and integral, you know, getting back into involved in the
storyline where he has he's going to have some agency
and actually something to do rather than just reacting to
(22:09):
everybody else's stuff. I thought that was always that's always
really fun.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I also loved that that came about from Millie and
Mouth standing up to Jerry and Jerry getting his real
great comedy moment and then saying, well, fine, you come
up with a co host and in unison immediately they
both say skills. It's like, yeah, they know what the
show needs, they know what the town needs, and it's
(22:33):
it's right. It's like a perfectly correct move. And then
you see the payoff at how good he is and
it I don't know, maybe I'm thinking about it because
I just interviewed Carson Daly on my other show and
was talking about like our early TRL days and I
was like, oh my god, skills is giving me full
TRL Carson Daily VJ like perfection and it feels.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
How great was Julian in this episode?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That was my next thing. This dirty dancing moment was
so funny.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I always trying to.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Give a speech to your dad and he's like, I
will not let anyone put her in a corner, and
please don't stop taking me seriously because.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I just use a dirty dancing Yeah, despite my dirty
dancing references, I will continue to reprimand you for being
a less than father.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
And then and then even when you know, he's like
what kind of person would do that? Hint at rhymes
with thick, And then I like it was so funny.
That's it's somehow funny when he's also really land sticking
the landing of being like it's dick, which is funny
because like everyone knows what it is, but then he goes,
it's dick, Ted, You're a dick. You should be ashamed
(23:51):
of yourself, and I was like, that was so cathartic
to watch. I was like, oh my god, that would
like there was such a strong theme in this episode
of partners Yes and the way partners are friends and
their teammates and how they are showing up for each other.
It's Millie potentially losing her love as a co host
(24:12):
because she sees he could be happier doing something else.
Julian going to bat with Brook's dad because he knows
she deserves better. It's Quinn putting up the picture of Sarah.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Broke my heart. That was so good in the best way.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
This show. It's like we've talked about before, like this
show is about relationships, about and friendships. I think I
remember saying this like very early on doing this podcast
with you, But that's I saw so much of that.
I feel like when the show is really shining, it's
often around the theme of like friendships and relationships, and
this episode delivered like everyone got to have.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
That, Haley and Chase even so Brooks parents. Yes, like
the partnership that they were trying to figure out, Like, yes,
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
And something I really loved is that every single leading
man on our show took a beat to thank his
woman because we haven't seen that a lot, and Rob
you even talked about it a couple of weeks ago.
Even what Quinn has been patient with put up with
like the way people stay, you know, each of you,
(25:24):
You with her, and Julian with Brooke, and Lee with
and Mouth with Milly. You know, we had these scenes
where each man said, Hey, I need to tell you something.
I need to thank you for the way that you
show up. I need to thank you for the way
that you support me. I need to thank you for
the way that you believe in me. It and it
(25:44):
was just so lovely and for all the grotesquely stereotypically
masculine ick we've gotten on our show over the years,
including putting Kylie in the bikini and the chicken head
in this episode, these were such moments of shining heroic
(26:06):
masculine goodness and like emotional intelligence and it just it
was gorge Like. I loved watching all three of you
in those scenes. It was just like it was a
little boat for me.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I was really happy to see Clay and Quinn together,
like the way that you guys.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Felt.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
It felt like we were finally getting I guess I
said it before, like this family that we always finally
wanted you guys to settle into, and Logan coming in
and the model airplane, but the way that Quinn supported you,
even bringing in the photo and setting down the photo
of Sarah, and like, oh, it broke my heart in
(26:53):
the best way. I just felt like, this is what
a real partner does, yea, I embrace.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
All of you in terms of the you know, Clay Banking, Quinn,
Julian Banking, Brook. I also I related to it. Yeah,
I identified with that, like I have that in my
own marriage, in my relationship, you know, where there are
moments where Jenny speaks confidence and support and to me
(27:20):
at a time when like I really need it, you know,
and it's a team sport, and so our wins, our
team wins. So I just thought that was a nice
moment because not only was it beautiful, it's just it's
so real and authentic that I think a lot of
people can relate to. And and Pierce are you kidding Peers?
When he's looking at the ocean and he says, does
(27:43):
it does it get any closer? Because he's afraid of
the ocean, and he backs up, I was like this
protect this child that all.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Costs just so sweet and having the element you know,
as you as you're saying to honor all of a person,
you know, when you fall in love with someone who
comes from things, they bring those things into your relationship.
(28:13):
And to love someone who's been through grief is a
big thing. And to watch Clay and Quinn have navigated grief,
you know, and then all the jumping the shark stuff
in between, and now be navigating with this little boy.
To have the totality of it in this little cocoon,
that was one of the things that I remember talking
to set Deck about. And I really wanted the cocoon
(28:35):
to be a warm color by the tent, sorry, because
I wanted it to feel like a cocoon. And we
found this like butterfly wing orange tent so that it
would really feel like they went into this bubble and
they came out as a better version of something and
(28:57):
it worked. And even like we made I don't if
you remember, Rob, but we made a projector light. We
did a stencil of the green lantern symbol and we
made a tiny projector light that we had to hide
in the in between you guys, in between yeah, like
the sleeping bags, so that when Pierce comes up into
(29:18):
frame with the ring that you need to propose and
then she puts it on. We wanted to cheat that
like in a superhero movie, like a bat signal, the
ring would shine through the roof of the tent, but
we had to make a light to do it because
obviously it was like a teeny tiny thing that didn't
have that much power. And seeing it again, I remember
sitting in the chair watching You Guys on monitor like
(29:41):
in tears because it worked, but seeing it ten years later,
like watching as a fan on my Giant TV, I
was sobbing. I was like, Oh, it so special.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
They deserve this, and even to like the writing of it,
it was I love so there, Like there's just such respect,
right because I understand, first of all, Clay has no
idea what he's doing. He's just trying his best, as
is Quinn as his logan, right, But I understand why
Clay might not have put a picture of Sarah up
(30:13):
because he's not sure how that's gonna make Quinn feel,
you know, and he's navigating this for the first time.
She's being incredibly supportive. So I'm like, I understand why
Clay might might not have done that respect. And then
I but the fact that Quinn is the one to
be like, yeah, I know this needs to be here,
she's showing like respect for Sarah and respect to Clay.
And and then the fact that then like that Logan
(30:37):
then sort of gives permission for like them all to
be a family by taking the picture of the three
of them and putting it in the frame next to
Sarah was so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I'm smart.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Oh, it was so good.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I was thinking that I really missed seeing you guys
with everybody at the burning boat. But it felt so
right to have this time of rest and connection for
the three of you that as much as it was like, oh,
I wish it would have been fun to have like
all of our faces there, but this is what Quinn
(31:14):
Clay needed. This is the cap on this long the bow,
if you will, on this long story, this long journey
that they've been on together.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, it was all right. And I appreciated that a
lot of the humor in the episode, which you needed
because you were getting such big emotional payoffs, I appreciated
that the humor wasn't so outlandish even with you three,
you know, trying to work with him to not be
afraid of the ocean, and you're like, oh my god,
(31:44):
and he's here with us and his grandparents and he
can't sleep and it's the thing. And then his mom
who passed away, and you know, Quinn's like, it's the immensity.
I totally get it. And he's like I'm scared of sharks.
And it's like, oh, you're still good. It like let
you just a little of the emotional pressure out in
the most perfect way. That was so sweet, and you
(32:06):
remember like, oh, yeah, he's he's also just six. Yeah,
he's a kid.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Totally do that as parents and adults like project all
this stuff like do you are you subconsciously feeling like like, no,
I'm just afraid of sharks.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
That's yeah. First of all, I don't know what immensity means.
The second of all, have you heard of sharks? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Sea monsters? Like it's just perfect.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
He Yeah, he was great. And as much as I
have issues with the road we took to get here, boy,
this is a really nice destination. And I was talking
with we were at a convention last weekend and I
was talking with some fans. I was finding myself asking like,
what's your favorite season? And it was really interesting to
(32:54):
hear what people thought. And then someone asked me and
I was saying, you know, I've only seen seven eighty nine.
But I gotta say much as I have kind of
ripped on season nine for the first half of it,
it is giving such a strong finish that it is
becoming a contender for my favorite season.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. I also have to give
speaking of comedy, I have to give the most amazing
props to my parents.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Daphne. I know, I was gonna say, when you walk
into that.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Hotel room, Daphne and Richard just crushed this and even
it's funny when I realized, oh, this is the episode
where Brook catches them. I went back to watch us
putting the golf clubs in the boat, and she's like,
you know, maybe you should just hear about and she
has just a hint of something and I look at
her and she goes, you know, so we can make
(33:47):
fun of him or whatever, you know, for nothing else
than to see him flailing in the wind like she covers.
But Daphney's so good that she had a little something
under what she was saying. Then, so when you when
you get into the hotel room, and it's like the
robe and then the bed, and then the hair, and
(34:07):
then the dune dune of the chocolate covered strawberries, which,
for whatever reason, are the hotel sex giveaway. It's she
just crushes crushes.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Let me give you some props because no one plays
horrified like you, and you are so good with comedy.
But I gotta tell you the you know, comedy comes
in threes, and so there's who when Richard comes out
shirtless looking like he's chiseled from stone. That's incredible. By
(34:41):
the way, what are you doing, sir? I mean making
all the right choices uparent right. I watched that scene,
was like I gotta go for a jog, honestly, but
so he so you so Brooke, you an amazing face,
and you're like, oh my god, and you leave the
room and there's a beat, and then Richard says, or
then Ted says to Victoria, funny, that's what you were
(35:03):
saying last night. There's our second. And then then from
out on the other side of the door, you hear
Brooke go.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Oh my god, yes, so good, and then Daphney picks
it up and goes, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
And it just the timing.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I remember when we were getting that and needing to
figure out how I could start to back out of
the room in just the right way so that he
could come out of the door and we could smack
into each other. And I and I remember telling Maddie,
our camera operator, when we do it, keep the frame
above his towel, because I want the audience for a
(35:42):
minute to think Brooke has just slammed into her naked dad.
And then when we start to move, you see that
he has a towel around him. But for a moment
it's like, I mean, it's already the worst thing that
could happen, but it seems even worse. And then the
cacophony of oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh,
I like the build. You think it's over when Daphne
(36:03):
does the slow burn one, and then when they walk
into Brook and Julian's and it happens again. It's like
that kind of comedic writing and timing is my very
favorite thing in the world to play.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Yeah. Oh, when he squeezes her butt when they are
leaving your apartment and then Julian does it, You're like,
no ah, so wait, I want to go back to
the beach scene for a second because I noticed, and
I'm just curious if you caught this or if you
remember this that when when Quinn is getting Logan to
(36:36):
walk out into the water, and we are shooting out
into the ocean. Did you notice that there was just
a random dude in the water in the background, like
a surfer. No, just like a dude. I didn't see that,
like half of a guy. And then it's funny because
then the camera kind of crops him out and I
was laughing, like I wonder if it was just someone swimming,
and you guys were like, get the rando out of
(36:58):
the shot, like, what are you doing, sir, which it's,
by the way, totally okay. Clay lives on a public beach. Yes,
it's funny because those moments you're not used to seeing
someone who's not in the show, just like casually filling
in the corner of a frame. So yeah, and when.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
They're cropped out like clearly, I say, mad dollar, cameraroberator.
I'm sure it was just like slightly moving the kid.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Let me do this slow so you don't really notice,
but I fixed the problem. That's so great.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I love seeing I love watching that on shows when
you can spot a problem and you see the camera
just slightly moving.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Comedy didn't stop there because we had all Chase bringing
it with the totally not a cry for help runner,
that scene with Haley, which was he was so good
in this episode. I mean we say this, it was
even all the time, but so under It was funny
but also really grounded.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah, he just never tries too hard. It makes me
so happy when I watch him, like I can relax.
You know, there's there's an anxiety I feel as if
you were when I'm watching an actor that I feel
like is trying really hard. I just get a little like,
I don't know what, what is your expectation of me?
And like not even the same room with the person
that it was filmed, you know, a year ago, but
(38:10):
I'm watching it like.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Oh god, I don't know how to react to this.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, but Steven's just so easy to watch because he's
he's just so unconcerned with anything.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
I mean, he's just so natural. I don't know how
else to say it.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I also like that he leaned into the stress and
the nervousness and nothing is working and I don't know
how I'm going to pay for all of this. You know,
these are real world problems and he's leaning into them
with you know, the best listener he's talking to Haley,
but also like Haley's a rock star, he's married to
a basketball player. And then it's like that dawns on
(38:46):
him and he looks at you and just so deadpan,
not a cry for help. It's like I did, I'm
not meaning to stress you out for as much as
I'm stressed out. And it's the dryness that makes it
so funny but also lets you hold the the emotion
underneath it. It's so well played on his.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Part, and also a hilarious, very small hint of a
callback to Haley working at the crisis center.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, good old Hailey, always there
for advice when someone needs it.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Did we ever find out? Because I know at the end,
you know, Haley's like, what if you just what if
the bar was yours? Like what if you just bought it?
Speaker 7 (39:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Yeah, I'm broke, So no, And Haley said some of
the effect of like I have an idea about that.
We didn't hear the plan for that, correct, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
She just goes to Karen I guess yeah, and has
a conversation with her, which definitely annoyed me that we
didn't have Moiro back on the show for that episode.
I don't know remember if we got her back for
the next one, but we'll find out.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Well, the pebble that we drop is the Friends with
Benefit flyer that you find. Yeah, and obviously we know
how the next epist, so it ends, so you can
kind of imagine that we do a big fundraiser to
buy the bar. I would bet okay, yeah, bet is
the is the plan. It's it's very cool the nods
(40:16):
to high school, and you know, they managed to tell
a story. I do wish we'd had Moira. I remember
a few things, you know, just sort of from behind
the scenes directing, Like I'd wanted a photo. I'd wanted
Haley to get a text message of a photo of
Nathan and Jamie camping, like we could have just taken
(40:39):
it in the back of the studio against a tree,
like And it was one of those things. Because we
were wrapping in November and then these episodes were going
to air like March and April. They were like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we'll get it. And then I watched the final cut
and I'm like, nobody, nobody remembered my note. And there
was a thing as well where I remember because of
the boat the way we did it. They hadn't set
(41:01):
up like a like a side container to do inserts
of burning. We were going to do it at the studio,
and then we ran out of time and then they
were like, oh, we'll do it during the finale, and
then obviously it didn't happen. So you miss Brook's diary burning,
which was one of those things I wanted because the
diary was such a runner in the episode. Yeah, and
(41:23):
I loved that it called us back kind of like
The Boys and the River Court. I love that we
got the call back to the early seasons because Rob
there's this voiceover that I have. I think it's maybe
top of season three, or maybe it's season two, running
like in the morning, sneaking out of a boy's house
that I've slept over at, sneaking back into mind, being like,
(41:43):
you know, good girls keep diaries and bad girls don't
have time. So that's why when Brooke brings Julie in
the diary and is like, I used to say, I
didn't keep one of these. It's just because I didn't
want anyone to find it. And then you hear about
all the turmoil at home and the parents, the parents
arguments and and you know, we don't talk to each other,
(42:04):
we've never sat together. That's the runner that gets you
to the end again, our final picnic table moment at
the river court with this family finally sitting together. And
I was like, my burning journal shot is missing from
this moment right before the fireworks. But it's fire I'll
get over it.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
I did love that moment though, I mean the over
the shoulder shot of those you three, like just onto
the burning boat, onto up into the fireworks. The big
crane shot was it a crane or a drone? At
the h that was a crane number and.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Those were viz effects, right, Yeah, the fireworks were fake.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
But what do you think was on the one page
of Brook's diary that she tore out wouldn't let Julian.
Speaker 8 (42:48):
See I I would imagine here's my thought, because there
was the overlap in season six where Julian and Lucas
worked together.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I imagine it was a story about Lucas and she was like,
let's not, let's not burn that into my husband's memory,
like because not only to rip it out, but then
to eat it to stop it from seeing it. Yeah,
that's what I think.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
So fusciting.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
We had fun on this show. I do remember shooting
this episode. It's like not a super clear, but I
do feel the nostalgia that we all felt when we
were walking around downtown, like, oh my gosh, we're doing
another burning boat. Oh my gosh, this is almost over.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Really it was like a time when we were all
really soaking up our time with each other, knowing that
we only had one more left. Yeah, it's only a
few weeks left. It really kicked into our brains a
lot of us. I think all of a sudden, we're like, Okay,
we're not dealing with crazy storylines. We don't have anything
insane happening where we really have to focus and be
(44:01):
stressed out long hours or late nights or it was
just we were just hanging all together really good.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
It's just so sweet.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Only one more left.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Only one more left.
Speaker 9 (44:11):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Cody's question is One Tree Hill was my show growing up.
Everyone knew it. That night each week the family TV
was mine. I wept when the series ended. Otch absolutely
shaped me in a lot of ways. When it ended,
I felt like a little part of me died. I
know I'm being dramatic, but I learned from the best.
I want to know, what is your One Tree Hill?
(44:47):
What is the show, movie, book, etc. That shaped you
and played a massively influential role in your life.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Oh my gosh, I wish i'd read this question before.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Now I know to think about it answers in chunks,
So like college, going into filming One Tree Hill, Sex
and the City was it for me. I'd never seen
women's stories told that way, women shot that way, women
centered that way. It really influenced so much of how
I felt about our show. I think about after our
(45:20):
show wrapped, being home and Jenny and I going like
so deep on Orphan Black and just being obsessed and watching,
you know, was what was possible in story? And then
I think about, you know, in my adult life, like lately,
it's the books that have really impacted me, like Maggie
Smith's book You Could Make This Place Beautiful, like it
(45:45):
is like a religious text for me prior to that,
in between these times Cheryl stra Tiny Beautiful Things. I
read it every year once a year. It's a tradition,
Like I think, there are the stories that find you
for these moments in your life, and I think it's
why hearing things like this from people like you, Cody
is so meaningful because for us to have been such
(46:07):
a part of your life is I don't know, like
we have that and it's really profound. So thank you
for sharing. What do you guys have? Do you do
them in chunks too, or do you think it's like
one thing?
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, mine's in chunks.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
I mean it doesn't have the same emotional weight. But
I love Lucy really. I mean, I just I grew
up watching it from when I was a kid, and
I continue to watch it. It's still on in my
house on Saturday mornings.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
It's just.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
She's just such a genius and it's so fun. I
never stopped laughing at it. And The Twilight Zone, I think.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Really I always.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Had a very even from when I was a kid
or like adolescent, the concept of mortality was not a
fearful thing for me. So I wasn't afraid of them,
cob or the things that were bizarre.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
I was really intrigued and wanted to understand more.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
So I really liked The Twilight Zone because it explored
a lot of those.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
Themes in a way that was fun. Yeah, And then.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
I mean, I'm trying to think of the thing that
really got me emotional. The show that ended that I
felt emotional. I was like, how am I going to
how am I going to keep moving after this is done.
I'm kind of embarrassed to say it because I feel like.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
You guys are laugh at me. But it's so cliche
Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Okay, I'm sorry, it's so cliche as mad as your show.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
But like I was, okay, I was going through my
divorce while like Tyry and Lanister was gidding, was just
like getting beaten down, beaten down, and I was like,
I just desperately need an underdog to win in something
in my life. I need to see that, like really
amazing things can happen for people that are like down
(48:02):
at their worst. Yea, And he won that battle, like
the huge battle. If you're a fan of Game Thrones,
that you know which one I'm talking about. I don't
even know how to name them because I wasn't that
kind of a fan where I knew the details. I
just was like a character fan. But he basically wins
this massive, massive, massive battle for his family or is
(48:22):
it for someone else's family?
Speaker 4 (48:23):
I can't even remember.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
It was a huge battle that he won and he's
this tiny guy. And then as a story kept going,
I just fell so deeply in love with these characters
and their humanity and it deeply connected with me. So
when it was over, I was really sad. I felt
like I lost a lot of friends all of a sudden.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
Yeah, man, I would rob me the same with Chunks.
And as far as things being influential, it's really it's
been all comedies for me because like I remember watched
the first time I watched Wet Hot American Summer. Oh,
there were jokes in that that I remember thinking, I
didn't know you could do that. Like I remember ending
(49:04):
that movie and I felt like, oh, like new neural pathways,
new wrinkles are in my brain because I wasn't even
aware that that was an option. Like it was like
someone went, hey, by the way, we have four new
colors of crayons, and I was like, holy seriously, so
like that like kiss Kiss, Bang Bang. I had never
seen humor and dialogue intertwined so seamlessly, and I was like,
(49:28):
I guess this is an option. We can do this,
you know, and then.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
It's like the West Wing, Yes, yes.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
Arrested development. I was like I had no idea we
could do this. So for me, it's been comedies where
like I feel like, oh, like there's been a new
part of my brain has opened up that I can
now play in that I didn't even know existed.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yeah, I love that, especially, You're right, comedy can crack
expectation in a way that I think sometimes drama doesn't.
Like Harter, I had that same feeling watching Parks and
Rec I was like, this can be work, this can
be what we do. Oh my god, like, oh, it's
(50:09):
so fun.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
It's probably also because I think humor is my strike zone, Like,
it's my love language, it's my self defense tool. It's
kind of my Swiss army knife. So I think it
makes sense that the most impactful stuff has been when
it is geared towards that. You know.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah, great question, that's such a good question.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
I guess let's spin a wheel, guys, let's.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Do it second to last wheel.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
Oh, this one is great. Most likely to text their
ex during mercury retro grade.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
That's so funny.
Speaker 5 (50:53):
I'm going to say it's not any of the boys,
because I don't think any of us would know when
mercury is in retrograde.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
I don't usually know either. I mean, I guess sometimes
I feel weird and then I find out later that
mercury was in retrograde and I'm like, oh, I guess
that's what happening.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
You know what character I actually think it is Chase. Yeah,
that boy loves to text his ex.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
That's very on point for this episode.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
And you know what, who's going to be talking more
about mercury retrograde than some sad person sitting at a bar,
so he would overhear it and probably get a little
swept away in the story and then decide to text
one of the ladies who he was deleting from his
phone in this very episode.
Speaker 5 (51:33):
Perfect, that's the answer. Sign all right, join us next
week because we have Oh my god, that's a big
episode in that it's the final episode Season nine, Episode thirteen.
Couldn't think of a better title, One Tree.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Hill, Oh my God, I'm gonna cry. Okay, see you
next week. Bye, love you guys.
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