That's a Wrap • EP 913

I don't know about you, but 'I Don't Wanna Be' saying goodbye to One Tree Hill. Cue the tears because the Queens walk us through the final episode like it was yesterday.

The scene that caused Sophia to break down, the final cast sing-a-long, and a surprise moment from Joy that no one saw coming!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, you don't know me.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
We all about that high school drama, Girl drama, girl,
all about.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Them high school queens.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
We'll take you for a ride, and our comic girl
sharing for the right drama, Queens of girl fashion.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
But your tough girl, you could sit with us.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drama, Queens Drama, queens.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hello, Hello, Hello, hiomies, guys.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I don't even want to say it. I don't even
want to say it.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Did you cry through the whole episode?

Speaker 5 (00:34):
Because I did?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
No, I did.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
It's not that I wasn't feeling super sentimental. There were
a couple of definite, definite moments, but I've just came
from a therapy retreats.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I have cried a lot this week. I think my
buddy's probably cried off.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
That's actually pretty ray. I was actually watching it. I
was in transit, so I was watching it on my phone,
and so I was voice noting my notes instead of.

Speaker 6 (00:58):
Writing them down.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
So every time I tried to talk about something, i'd
be like Logan said, damn it, and I just I
kept crying because I was trying to talk about it
to myself.

Speaker 6 (01:09):
It was very embarrassing.

Speaker 7 (01:10):
Okay, well, with no further ado, let's just rip the
bandit off and get into it. Oh god, okay, Gang,
you know what we're up to today. It's season nine,
episode thirteen, appropriately titled One Tree Hill, aired April fourth,
twenty twelve. Synopsis reads in the final chapter of One
Tree Hill, the tenth anniversary of Trick brings old faces
and new possibilities for the tree Hill family. To celebrate

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the tenth anniversary, they host a concert at Trick that
includes Gavin de Graw, Joy Lenz.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
And ty Tyler Hill till day.

Speaker 7 (01:43):
Julian buys Brooks childhood home for them to live in.
Nathan and Haley celebrate their tenth wedding anniversary, and Clay
and Quinn get married and legally become parents and the
fastest least paperwork intensive wedding slash adoption of all time.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Wouldn't it be so nice as it was that easy?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Just walking to the courthouse and you're like, listen, this
kid's mine, so we're just gonna like sign some papers
and also can we just get married real quick?

Speaker 7 (02:12):
Thanks? There was just a lovely person like Bevin there
to be like, yeah, could you just sign your name twice. Yeah,
good enough for us.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Also, I love that Bevin married you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh so like what a perfect end.

Speaker 7 (02:24):
Yes, which brings me to one of my questions because
obviously she had appeared on the show before this.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
She was in high school with you, all right, yeah,
yeah many times.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I mean she well, she was like kind of a
Was she officially a regular or was she recurring?

Speaker 4 (02:36):
I think she became recurring. She was one of our
featured extras in the early seasons because Bevan was on
the cheer squad with Brooke and Peyton, and then Haley
joined and so the cheerleaders really became part of our storyline.
And Bevan's just so funny that she then became, you know,
an an actor on the show. They would actually write
dialogue for her and whatnot, and I think eventually she

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became a recurring character. But once we do the skip ahead,
she's not really in the show. And then she appears
in a bit that you know will not shock you
Rob where our writers were being very mean to one
of our castmates and they had Bevin's character and his
character get married, and then of course in this episode

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they had to take a dig and be like, I really.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
Hated my husband.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
I was like, okay, but Bevin's so funny that at
least I'm happy that she got you know, she got
a great joke out of it.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I actually don't remember what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Oh okay. So in high school, Joy, you'll remember Tim
and Nathan were like best friends and troublemakers. Tim played
by Brett Clawell. And then in later seasons you find
out I believe it's during the whole Brook and Julian
prepping for the wedding because I'm doing like the registry
thing and yeah, works at the store, and we find

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out Bevin married Tim and that they named their son Nathan.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
I'm completely that. I don't know what did I was
I not there for that episode or something.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
And so that's why it's like a bummer, because you know, yeah,
it was such a sweet human And by the way,
for our friends at home, he's done so much of
the amazing fundraiser work for the show, and like, yeah,
with James when they do the basketball fundraisers and stuff, like,
Brett always helps to run that. But for some reason, Tim,
the character of Tim became kind of.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
A punging bag.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
So I literally have in my notes, I'm like, God,
I hate the joke for him, but I love the
joke for Bevin because she just alluresn't.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
So I love seeing her. I was such a surprise.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Yeah, it was so nice.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
She was wonderful, And I thought though it was real
cheeky of us to give Quinn a line of going Bevin,
Yeah we went to high school together. Yeah, like, these
fans know better than that. How dare you try to
retcon this because every single fan watching is going, you
weren't there, Quinn, You.

Speaker 6 (04:58):
Weren't there, baby.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Yeah, it's okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
So funny. Oh there's so much.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I mean, I don't even know exactly where to start
except the beginning, which is just everybody at Trick, which
was so fun. But also I got a little thrown
off by the timeline of this episode because we kept
bouncing back and forth between Trick and then we were
out of Trick in daily life.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
And Daren outfits.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, there's a lot of background.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
It was an interesting sort of nonlinear choice, and I
had a moment I wonder if you guys did when
we were going to Karen's cafe in the midst of
the concert. Granted, but in my brain I was like, Oh, we're.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
Doing this is so cute.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
We're doing an after hours at Karen's. But then I
realized we were all in different clothes, so we weren't
so it was two nights.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
The timeline made no sense, but the episode was so
nostalgic and sweet that I loved it anyway.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yes, loved it.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I just we all had several different outfits and then
we kept going back to Trick in the same outfit,
and yeah, so I was a little thrown.

Speaker 7 (06:06):
Yeah, it was nice to see all of you watching
former or younger versions of yourselves.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I loved that.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
I did too.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
That was a good touch.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
I had a hard time starting this episode. I felt
like every time I I every shot, every like the
River Cord, I had to pause it for a second
because I was like, oh, I just wanted to soak
this in. And I kept imagining all of the fans
at that time, sitting down in twenty twelve and getting
together to sit down and watch the finale, and how
it would have felt to them to see the River

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Cord and see young Nathan playing basketball, and then it
was it was really smart for them to do this.
I was going to say sliding doors, but that's not
exactly the right thing. But the word the older self
and the younger selfur in the room together, all of
us looked exactly the same. By the way, Nature day

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it was great.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, but I liked that a lot. That device I.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Did too, and I really liked as well. It was
interesting that they chose to open it on that really
really high up wide drone shot of the Cape Fear
River over the bridge.

Speaker 7 (07:17):
You know.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
It was so it was so pulled back from what
we normally do that I was like, Oh my god,
we're really they're making this choice of like we're going
to come into this little town where we've all spent
this time, but we'll start so far out. It's almost
like in science class, you know, when they would start
on the planet and then start to zoom in and
eventually you wind up in New York and like there's

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the people. They know that video where they're like on
the blanket in Central Park. It did something to me
right away where I was like, Oh, we're we're really
starting wide and we're going to come in and remind
ourselves that we've spent ten years in this little place.
Together and that it's just a little place like any
other little place in the country and maybe in the world,

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and I don't know it really, it just made me
feel so emotional. And then James's voiceover about you know,
it's the oldest story in the world, and then it
gets to that line some days today.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
I'm already crying.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
Yeah, that one. It really got me.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well, I can't lip sync.

Speaker 7 (08:20):
Well, let's back out before before you poke fun at yourself.
The shot of you, the low angle shot of you
on stage looking like a freaking badass. That shot happened.
I was like, I gotta pose it to write this
down because you looked like a fucking star man. It

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was cool as hell.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (08:44):
I was also confused because I was like, okay, wait,
are we showing time has passed because Joy's hair looks
shorter or is this one of those moments where like
Joy has decided to cut her hair this week or
is it just like tucked in the back? So I
would I spent a lot of time focusing on your
hair for that song.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
It was like pinned up right, it was tucked.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
It was in fact tuck tuck up. Yep, that was
cute man.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, I loved. I did really love objectively. I loved
the way they shot that. I thought it looked super cool.
It was really fun to see. That's so fun. It's like,
you know, little Joy, always imagining myself being on stage singing,
singing songs and being in a band, and to sort of, yeah,
sit back and see that part of my imagination come
to life.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
That's really fun.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
It's so special.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
I do really have always struggled with lip syncing, and
I was watching this episode and like, Tyler did it,
Gavin did it. It was always great, and then mine
are always like slightly delayed, and I never know why.
And it's not just that song. It's like every song
I've ever done the episode, I can't. It's like a
long standing mystery in my life why I can't seem
to lip sync exactly on the tempo.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Well, and for our friends at home, who are like,
what do you mean you sing these songs? You know,
because we have to shoot these concert scenes. You have
to shoot that same song from ten different angles over
and over and over and over and over again. Yeah,
so they play the track you've recorded so that it's
really seamless. In terms of the edit from the wide

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shots to the close ups they needed all to match,
and if you were singing live, you might go longer
on a note or have a riff or something. But
for yeah, for you as an artist, it's got to
be so weird because you're like, this is literally my
song and for some reason I can't sing along to it.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
So that song actually was Patti Griffin's, but I did
record it in.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
That That's what I mean. You like you did it?

Speaker 7 (10:34):
Yeah, And for what it's worth, I've never once watched
you sing on this show and thought like, oh, she's off, Like,
so I think that's that's just you. Yeah, I think
that's you just being too close to it too to
be able to see it objectively, because literally, I've never
once and I'm normally like a stickler for little things,
I've never once watched him been like.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Uh, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, I was all the performances in this episode. That
was one of the things I really loved about this
that they brought all this l of music that we
had threaded throughout the entire show, and they really packed
it all in.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
At the end.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Oh my gosh, Tyler's song song ever I'm Dead.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
He crushed you know. One of the things I really
loved too before we move on from the beginning device.
There was something so cool about the choice to see
high school US and then grown up US and where
everyone is right, like Nathan watching himself play basketball and

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then being this retired professional athlete US watching Haley literally
like reading and in her Tutor Girl era, and then
cutting to you as a rock star, and there was
a there was kind of a little double entendre that
I loved, even in the Brook and Julian moment, like
Brooke finally had this moment of self worth and agency

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in high school when she ran for class president, and
then it cuts to the high school set and she's
watching Julian directing, and that phrase we've all heard a
thousand times on set when a director says, cut, we
got it, Let's move on.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
And he says, let's move on.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
And I literally burst into tears on set because I
was like, I'm not ready for this, and I saw
it in the take and it's happening to me even now.
And there was something just so cool about the then
and now, and to Rob's point, you're then and now

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that upshot of you just like with the lights and
the music and the I was like, this is the
payoff I've wanted for every single one of these characters,
and the payoff felt like it came again and again
and again and again through the whole episode.

Speaker 7 (12:45):
Right, yes, yeah, it's everyone got hero moments GIF. Series
finales are so hard, much like a pilot, It is
so hard to do a good pilot, and it is
even harder to I think, do a widely liked series finale. Yes,
and I think we did an exceptional job because it

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was sort of like I was watching it going, Okay,
what is the word I'm looking for, and the best
thing I can come up with it it's happy ending
porn or it was just like.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
A happy happy it just did a spittake with her coffee.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
That's that was the wrong moment to take a.

Speaker 7 (13:21):
Sip, But like, don't you feel me? Every single scene
was someone getting another win and getting something that they've
been fighting for, something they deserved, Like there was there
was no fat on the episode. Every single beat was
a like a gift to the character and to the fans,
Like yeah, from start to finish.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
It also didn't feel like an ending that maybe I
should save this for the end, but it just it
just didn't feel like an ending that was final. We're
so many series finales. It's like they're letting you know,
we really are closing this out. But I think the
brilliance of that is it kind of keeps people coming
back because it doesn't feel also completely final.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yes, it almost felt like you were just seeing us
entering into what comes next.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yes, Yes, which we had done so many times before.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (14:12):
Yeah, there was no goodbyes. It was it said it
was the expansion of our worlds, like seeing our kids
a little bigger, seeing us transition all of a sudden
Baker Man is across from Karen's cafe, rather than kind
of yeah, like a serious finale is usually like they
get off the island, they caught the bad guy. In

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this case, it was just like, hey man, their world
is great and it's getting bigger. See you soon.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Just so cool and what I loved to your point, Rob,
the hero moments that kept coming. It also felt like,
you know, we've had moments in episodes where we're reflecting
and saying, gosh, the writing could have been better there.
They could have called up any memory or any experience.
Every single scene felt like it called up an extra detail,

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even Joy, you and I hosting the Night at Trick. Hi, everybody,
Hi Hayley. That never gets old. Hi everybody, I broke. Oh,
it never gets old. Our cafe, this thing that we've built,
you know, every little beat that every person had, even
watching you know, Mills and Skills in the morning and
Mouth launching his new show, and then Skills repeating Jimmy's

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catchphrase on the air, not just on the river court.
Every single moment acknowledged something or you got to see
something that maybe you hadn't thought about in a while.
Even you know, the four of us walking into Karen's
and Skills has all the kids on the roof throwing
water balloons at us, and you're like, oh my god,

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all these moments of our children, you know, getting these
torches passed to them. You're right, it's not a single
bit of fat. Every single thing gave you a reward.
The whole episode felt like a t.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I want to know what it felt like for you
walking into Peyton's bedroom again. Oh, I feel like I
could see it on screen, but I wasn't sure if
you told them, like, don't I don't want to go
in there, Just like Roll and I'll go in there
for the first time. You know how sometimes if you're
like the emotion's going to hit and won't I want
us to catch it, or if you did your rehearsals

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and it still just like was so emotional. I don't know,
how did that feel?

Speaker 4 (16:26):
You know, It's really interesting because watching the episode, I
got tiery every other minute talking about it with you guys,
it's happening to me, and that was really my experience
every day on set during the finale, I just couldn't
stop crying. Like even when we do the close ups
of us at Jamie's basketball game. You know, now that
Jamie's a teenager and we're watching him at tree, he'll

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high like I don't know if you caught you.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
Know, we're all in slow moo.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
We're clapping, and one of my eyes literally is doing
this because I'm trying not to cry, because they were like, Sophia,
you cannot keep crying in every single scene, like you
have to stop. You're at a basketball game, You're supposed
to be happy. I just couldn't control my emotions during
that whole episode, And like, you know, the hallway scene
for us walking up to the set of Brooks House

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and the Red Door. With Julian walking into Peyton's room,
it really felt like this very special you know, the
magic of a Christmas story almost toured down memory lane.
And what was really special for me about going into
her room was, you know, and we've all talked about this,

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there were times when we all finally figured out what
was happening kind of in the undercurrent of our show.
But there had also been times where we all lost
each other a bit because we didn't yet know. We
listened to the grown ups and then sort of isolated,
And we were at a point near the end of
season nine when Hillary and I had uncovered so many

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things and rebuilt a friendship that felt like it had
been stolen from us for a time, and you know,
some of the stuff we all figured out by then,
like we have every right to be angry about what
hit me walking in there as Julian's creating the world
of Lucas's novel was Oh, we're gonna We're finally actually

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gonna honor her. You know, we're not going to hear
that they asked Peyton to come to brook and Julian's wedding,
and that Hillary turned us down and then years later
she was like, nobody ever asked me, Like, they didn't
invite me back. You know, they invited Chad back even
at a time, but they didn't invite her back.

Speaker 7 (18:43):
It.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
I remember, like in muscle memory, how it felt to
walk in there and touch all those things and to
be talking as Brooke about all the memories she and
Peyton had made in that room. But we all made
so many memories in that room.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
You know.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
One of my favorite scenes we ever shot was you,
me and Hillary in that bed talking about surviving things together,
and so walking in there, I was like, that character
and what she meant to our show, and what she
meant to Brook and what she meant to Haley, Like
we deserved this moment. We deserve a way to honor
our people, and I was so proud that we got that,

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and it was cool to see it on camera because
I don't know, everything in the episode felt meaningful to
our characters but also meaningful to us as actors, and
that was like one more of those things that felt
both character driven and real.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
Before we get off the opening, which was so beautifully
and well done, I got to say I loved how
we went. So it's like we're setting this tone of
like it's nostalgia, it's good feels. And now here's Chris
Keller in a stupid beard talking about being on the lamb.
It was a great way of being like, hey, we're
gonna pull at your heartstrings, but we're also gonna give

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you the funnies we like because here comes Keller on
the lamb.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
On the heels of Bigfoot, Haley being like, I still
can find Bigfoot, and there he is. There he is
giant Beard.

Speaker 7 (20:18):
And just even Tyler is so good at playing a
buffoon and a somehow charming lithario like he's he's another
one of those just like just teflon Man. He gets
material that if you saw on the page, you'd be like,
whoof all right, how am I gonna sell this? And
he just turns it into gold because it's obviously he's

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he's playing such a high level of stupid at the
opening of this episode and it's so freaking funny. Yeah,
And then kudos to the writing. We get to see
also him being a good actor and seeing that Chris
Keller has depth when he turns down the A and
R woman, you know, and then he gets honest with

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Hailey and he's like, because I don't know, he gets vulnerable,
you know, And so it was just it was just
great though that the opening to be like, hey, we're
not just going to give you feels, We're also going
to give you the funnies and everything you've come to
like about this show. And I thought that was just like,
that was a great.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
And to your point, the funny of how hard he
commits to the bit then was added to by everyone.

Speaker 6 (21:28):
Being like, how was tour? Thought you were on tour? Like,
and he's just like, nobody calls me, nobody misses me,
like what the man?

Speaker 3 (21:35):
And when he takes off his glasses and the beard
comes off with the glasses.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
Yes, yes, so good. He was left with just that stringy,
gross mustache.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Oh so funny.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
Perfect.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
He's such a star. His performance was so unreal. I
love that, and also that we get to see Chris
Keller is actually a real professional. Like he's goofy and
wild and makes bizarre choices in his life and he's
a mess, but he is a consummate professional. He knows exactly.
I mean, that's what why he's become successful. And man,

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that was just so compelling. I was glued to the
TV every second he was on it.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
Dude, confidence and talent are a sexy combination. Sexy and
the way he just turned it on and the confidence
was out of ten and then he just owns the stage.
And the fact that he's even kind of breaking the
fourth wall by playing to the camera as much as
he is. Yeah, so good that you just don't care.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
And the way Pete Kowalski shot it, getting into and
hands reaching for him, and even the fact that they
had him look up over the mic. I mean, he
looked like Elvis, and you know, obviously he played Elvis
in Walk the Line, but like he leaned into that
really sexy classic rockabilly rock star thing.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Which is so funny because he's so goofy yes.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, And to see him go from the mustache guy
to like the hot rock and roll guys saying words
I shan't repeat that are you know?

Speaker 5 (23:14):
In his song I was like I can't.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
I actually kind of can't look at you, like I'm
uncomfortable with how sexy you are all.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Why don't have these feelings?

Speaker 7 (23:26):
Yeah? My my crush on Tyler got even bigger watching this.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
He's a magician and a star yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
Mean, man, everyone like there was no there was just
no weak performance. Like everyone everyone got gifts in the writing,
and then everyone did the writing a service by really
playing it beautifully. Yeah, no one was reaching too hard.
And it was that perfect combo of just good writing

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and good subtle performance and and it just it all sang.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Your storyline was Shanta and peers are just so unbelievable
to me, the way that you guys all played off
of each other and the ease with which you navigated
that storyline. But when he calls her.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
Mom burst into tears.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
The look on her face, and they just sat there
with the camera. They didn't go away from it. They
let us as an audience just sit there and feel
it with her. That was amazing.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
I loved that we got to sit there with her,
not only to watch that hit her so beautifully, but
they let it linger and we got to hear her
voice over talking about you know, essentially all paraphrase because
I didn't write the exact line down, but the plans
don't really matter when the right life happens to you.

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And it was so it was just so special to
see it. And oh, I don't know that one that
really really got me.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
And kudos again to the writing that they had her
on a phone call voicemail with Hayley discussing the wedding
she thought she wanted exactly and then she heard him
call her mom and she suddenly realized what was important
to her, and so that we got to witness that
moment from start to finish. Yeah, was so beautiful. And

(25:27):
like they said that they that's that's what you do.
Like you have a good actor, just trust them, give
them a moment and we'll see it, you know. And
that's there's nothing scripted for her there, that's just her
reacting and playing it beautifully. But oh, that was so good.
I mean and then even like earlier on when Logan
says to Clay, like you're already my.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Dad dad, Oh, that was the next thing I was
going to say, like you just you guys just broke
my heart in all the best ways. I loved seeing
this for Clay. I loved seeing this. I love seeing
you Rob just being free to final drop into some
moments that weren't extraordinarily crazy and trying to make it work.
But like, actually, just you just got to be there

(26:06):
and be do what you do best. Yes on camera,
just the total the nuance, the connection with another person
where you're not also burdened with trying to make some
extraordinary crazy thing work on the page, you know, which
you always do, and I feel like we always did that,
but there's a credit to all of us that we
kind of had to learn how to figure that out.

(26:29):
But there's some kind of magic that happens when we're
not trying to make something strange work and we actually
just get to drop in we are Yes. I felt
it so much with you.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
It's so lovely.

Speaker 7 (26:40):
This episode was like all of my favorite stuff of Clay.
I mean, it was the friendship and love between Clay
and Quinn, and it was the humor. I mean, one
of my favorite lines from the episode is when Quinn
says to Logan when they're waiting for like an hour,
like lunch break or something that BEVN has to take
and so they're waiting around and Quinn goes, hey, do

(27:01):
you want to help me plan my wedding? And he
think he says yeah, and Clay's like, oh no, he doesn't.
Then he leans down and he goes, oh few Glogan
wants to sneak into court and watch crackheads get sentenced.
That is such a good line. It's the perfect amount
of dark.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (27:19):
I just I was like, this is it, Like that's
the stuff.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Man, because that's what Clay would have said.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
You know, this kid's clearly been dealing with a lot anyway,
he can handle a weird dark joke.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
Yeah, he's been a dad for like seven days, okay
at this point, maybe like thirty five days, so he
still doesn't know the boundaries of like what's appropriate at all.
It's like that was such a perfect moment of like
he's still figuring it out, but it's just ruthlessly funny.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
I also loved that they gave you those moments. You
got to tee up the humor with Logan for his
emotional reality to gut punch the whole audience. In the
scene where you're talking about how you want to be
his dad and you know you just said, he says
to you, you're already my dad dad. Like the fact

(28:05):
that you're being awkward and you guys make the whole
duck joke and Quinn has to be like, okay, hold on.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
Like bring it back to center.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
You know, the the joke about the fugue state and
the wedding and the whole thing makes him calling her mom.
I mean, it just it like you're looking left and
it comes from the right. It's a double surprise. And
so it's it's not only so fun to see you,
to Joy's point, do what you do best and be
able to just be a phenomenal actor who doesn't have

(28:36):
to jump a shark or do exposition or whatever, but
they also play to your strengths in this episode so
well because they let you be who you are Rob,
who is the guy who literally always tease up the
best joke, and it just it gave the three of
you a dynamic that was so enjoyable to watch.

Speaker 7 (28:59):
Thanks friend. Yeah, I loved I loved all that stuff.
And just before we move on, I want to say
I loved that Bevin was in the final scene with us. Yeah,
and the only thing I found myself wanting because as
soon as I saw her and Skills standing close to
each other, I was like, Yes, are we gonna tease it?

Speaker 5 (29:17):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Wait that was the implication.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
I thought yes because we felt like, wait, you don't
know this, but they have a thing in high school.

Speaker 8 (29:26):
What Yes, So that's the callback you haven't seen it. Yes,
my god, yes, that's creating at the game together. For
all of us who've you know, seen all nine years
were like, oh my god, Skills and Bevan are back.

Speaker 7 (29:40):
Ah, that's incredible because I don't know any of that,
and I watched it and for some reason, I found
myself rooting for the two of them. Yes, like, am
I going to see like a handhold here?

Speaker 4 (29:49):
They have such good chemistry, like truly in real life,
Bevin and Antoine were so fun to watch, you know,
acting together like they were a couple on the show.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
So yes, your spine, I.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Can't wait till you find out the other people that
Skills is with.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Oh man, okay, oh man, okay.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
I'm When I was watching the thing with Mouth, I
see him get this check. It's this five hundred, one
hundred thousand dollars check. And I missed, I don't know,
I was crinkling paper or something.

Speaker 7 (30:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
I missed what he said who the check was from.
But I didn't rewind it because I thought, oh, they'll
just say it again, and then they never did.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Who sent out the check? Dance Scott.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
What Dan left him half a million dollars and all
it said, was what you do matters?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Didn't dance send money to his kids too? Or was
this you just like gave his old fortune to mouth?

Speaker 7 (30:39):
No, I mean if he did, it's off you know,
off screen that we never find out an audience member.
But here's my one question is who is is Edward
Scott like dance proper name or is that a different character.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
Jimmy Edwards and Keith Scott. So he's doing the Edwards
Scott scholarship, gotcha?

Speaker 7 (30:58):
Okay? Sure for the two people who passes? Okay, okay?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yes, whoa dance and mouth a half a mill?

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (31:07):
That's wild and one of the things I loved because
it came in in so many portions of the story.
You know, Joy your your voiceover at the end when
we're all doing bits of the ending monologue talks about
ambition and integrity, and Mouse is trying to figure out
earlier in the episode why Dan left him the money

(31:28):
of everyone, and he says, you know, he told me
it mattered that I wouldn't cover these horrible rumors about Nathan,
you know, getting this other woman pregnant at the time.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
He wouldn't do the story.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
And Antoine is saying to him when they're all talking
about it. He did this because you did the right thing.
So Mouse's whole storyline here is about integrity and what
a gorgeous action to take. You know, half a million
dollars would change your life. Right, But Mouth doesn't say,

(32:02):
let me buy a million and I a house. He's like,
let me start a scholarship and honor the two people
who also did things that mattered and tell more and like,
tell more of their stories.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
You know.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
Really great?

Speaker 7 (32:16):
Also, how just awesome that the person to acknowledge and
reward integrity is the character who probably has lacked at.

Speaker 9 (32:27):
The most the point, yes, wow, At what point did
Dan decide to call his lawyer and add that into
his will before he died.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Or that something he had set up book?

Speaker 4 (32:40):
I have a theory, Oh tell, what what do you remember?
When Mouth brings clues to Dan on the sound stage,
before Dan and Julian and Chris Keller really go full
mission impossible, Mouth brings clues. That's right, And I think
in my head, if Dan is setting up you know,

(33:02):
his estate what's left of it.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Which he would have wanted to do, knowing he was
walking into a situation where he very well could die, yes.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
You know, knowing that, Yeah, he was going to sacrifice
himself for his son if it came to that. I
almost wonder if that was kind of like the last
tea he crossed in that in that timeline from that
trailer on the sound stage.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Mouth's arc was integrity the whole time, actually, the entire
as far as I'm thinking this entire time on the show.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, that's his whole arc.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
Yeah, like we've made we've called him the moral compass
of the show so many times, and maybe not at
the first half of season nine, but the rest of
the time.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, that.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
Was that was great. That was a twist. Also, just
what a nice way to have Dan be a part
of this episode with this last act of just of kindness.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Yeah, someone who decided to change their legacy, you know,
who decided to leave it differently in the final hour's
it's such a beautiful reflection on redemption without you know,
beating you over the head with it. Yeah, it's like

(34:18):
a nice little glimmer.

Speaker 7 (34:20):
Yeah, And there's a lot of themes of legacy in
this episode, and I feel as though it's almost like
Dan's reckoning of realizing that he he fell short of
where he wanted to end up, but his efforts could
be continued on through investing in the right person. So

(34:41):
it's like maybe he was maybe his contribution to the
world was net negative, but he was trying to write
it by supporting someone who could reverse that. Yeah, which
is beautiful. Yeah uh far less noble and honorable. Let's
talk about sweet sweet Chase. The storyline.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
I was just going to s okay, wait, first, you
slapping him in the bar was so perfect, incredible, so perfect.

Speaker 7 (35:06):
Dude. I didn't realize how funny grown men slapping each
other is until I saw it back to back in
this scene and I was like, this is I did
not realize this was a well that is so lary us.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
The fact that they shot that they stayed over your
shoulder instead of looking at your face and getting your
reaction on your face. You see him pour the drink,
you take a sip, and as you take a sip,
thing like it hits your lips and they go behind
your shoulder and they just see your arm come out
of nowhere and smack it in the face.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
Oh my gosh. It was so so funny and obviously,
like the chase stor line isn't as substantive, but I
love that we still included it nonetheless because we got it,
we got to have him be a part of it.
And it also it added that sort of necessary component
of levity because there was so much heartfelt storytelling happening. Yeah,

(35:58):
and I loved the moment it probably, I mean, listen,
the slapping is probably my favorite, but a close second
is when Chris and Chase have decided they want to
spy on the twins. Yeah, and they do the like
the most just schoolboy move of you stand on my
shoulders and look in the window, which again a super

(36:18):
creepy move, but we have two charming, likable guys doing it,
so like you kind of what it's slide. I love
that that Chris is like, what are they doing? And
Chase goes, they're watching a movie and he goes, oh,
which one? And there's a beat and Stephen plays it
perfectly where you see him see what movie it is,
and it registers and he has this little smile and

(36:39):
he goes, it's the notebook.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Wet They're sweet?

Speaker 7 (36:44):
Yeah, like the dudes peeping on the girls through a
window are also sweethearts.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Yeah, he loves the sweet movie. And I also love
that he's like they're watching the Notebook and he's so
touched in and he's like, they're crying, and then they're girls.

Speaker 7 (37:01):
They're girly girls.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
It's like the revelations just keep coming.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Oh my gosh, I know that was really I mean,
I was grateful at least we got to see these girls.
I've hated this Twin storyline the whole time. It just
feels very objectifying. I don't like it. But seeing the
girls have an emotional reaction to something rather than being
exactly what they were joking about, like either either robots

(37:26):
or they're what was the other thing they said, angels?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Robots or angels?

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Like, oh, can we get like a more archaic stereotype
going at least acknowledged it. But then we got to see, Oh,
these girls have something. There's some real depth there. Even
for a moment, it felt like the little piece of
redemption I needed to make it okay.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
And the way that they flee the scene, specifically Stevens
jump over the book. I remember being there this day
and he was like, hey watch this, I'm gonna I'm
going to full blown dolphin on this next take and
I was like, what's what does that mean?

Speaker 1 (38:09):
What does that mean?

Speaker 7 (38:09):
And he was like, watch and now go back and
watch it, and you will see any normal person, if
you are leaping over something, your hands would be up
in the air ahead of you, you know, to protect yourself. No,
when he dolphins, those hands stay firmly to his side
on his hips, and so he is truly like a
fish out of water.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Oh my god.

Speaker 7 (38:31):
So if you go back and watch it, it is
the most I laughed out. Well, I remember this moment.
I was like, oh shit, this is when he dolphined.
And if you watch it, it's just it's the stupidest
and as a result, the funniest dive lovely to see
Brooke getting the family she has wanted for so long.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Oh man, that did make me emotional watching you guys
all with the champagne and then click the button and
the sales started going in Mom, Dad and Julian and
you and it's all finally.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah, and it all shifts.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
And it was really interesting because I remember how special
it felt. I remember how nice it was to have
this button with Daphne and Richard and Austin and how
full circle it comes and the two things I'd forgotten
that were so touching to me watching it was our
conversation joy. When you're like, no matter how long it took,

(39:25):
you finally got the thing you always should have had.
Your parents are finally acting like your parents. You know,
things are finally working out.

Speaker 8 (39:35):
And then when.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
It cuts ahead and Julian has brought Brooke home, standing
in that house, I remember that day, how surreal it
was to be in there, how lovely and generous the
family who actually lived in that home was. You know,
they let us literally move their entire house. Their house

(39:59):
got we could film and they came by and we
had tea together on the back porch. But I remember
standing there, walking around and the words are so spot on,
and it was again this moment, this sort of reflection
that felt so right for Brooke, and that felt so

(40:21):
personal for me of really thinking about the journey of
the whole last decade and what I didn't expect. I
felt so excited. You know, we're coming up the path blindfolded.
I was like, this is the moment, the moment she
gets her house back. I was like, sot ready for it.
I forgot what the dialogue was. I remember the feeling,

(40:43):
but hearing the words come out of my mouth talking
about how I wished for this before I knew what
this was, like, I wish for this kind of a happiness.
I wished for a home.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
Yeah, and it's.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
So surreal to be, you know, ten twelve, however many
years past it we are, and to go, oh, I've
only recently learned that lesson, like Brooke Davis learned that lesson.
She had that experience like so long before I did.
And suddenly it feels personal to me too, to be like, yeah,

(41:18):
I had no idea what was in store for me
or what would actually make me happy until it happened.
And then I went, WHOA, I could not have predicted this,
And I watched myself essentially talk about something that feels
personal to me fifteen years ago on screen.

Speaker 6 (41:36):
I'm telling you, I like my very out of body experience.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
With this entire episode.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
And I don't know, it's just so not to be
like what we do is so important. It's like we're
not curing cancer, but there's something really magical about just
watching humans figure out how to human and grow and
love and risk And I don't know, I just I
loved it.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
It's such a privilege to play a character for an
extended period of time when you get to really watch
go and walk through these real life experiences, and especially
to play characters that started out so young and we
ended up in our late twenties, I guess on the show,
which is when so many new things start to happen.

(42:23):
You know, there's obviously massive transition in life between your
twenties and your thirties, and it really is a privilege
to get to carry a character for other people to
be able to watch and relate to and connect with
in the ways that you're talking about, and also for
ourselves to look at where we've come.

Speaker 7 (42:45):
Right.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
It's just really beautiful and once a very unique experience.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
It really is, and I think what I'm landing on,
and thank you you're actually helping me clarify my point.
And maybe I think about it because we were all
just you know, so many of us were just in
Paris together. We get to hear what these journeys have
meant to the fans, and this was such a surreal
moment because I was like, oh my god, I'm having
and experienced fans have told me and all of us

(43:12):
about about our characters and I'm having it with our
show with my character.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Like what is happening?

Speaker 4 (43:21):
It's so cool and I'm gonna cry. I'm really really
happy we've done this together you guys. Like our show
was obviously such a gift, but like taking it, taking
it back and and getting to do this with you guys.

Speaker 6 (43:44):
I just cherished this so much.

Speaker 7 (43:46):
Same friend, me too.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
I love you guys. Oh, I am just a mess today.

Speaker 7 (43:54):
It's again though, it's like legacy.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, you know that, like generations and legacy.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
Yeah, you know, we talked about this like at the convention,
like it's it's it's so cool that we got to
do We got to make this show, Like this version
of the show couldn't have been made without us, but
the legacy of the show would not be possible without
the fans, you know the fact that like we got
to have this opportunity. We get to do conventions and
we get to hear about what it meant to people,

(44:21):
Like yeah, that legacy is only pop or is only
possible because of the fans, but like it's everyone wins.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Also, isn't it funny to be that young and acting
out things that were written by people older? Than us
who have experienced things that we had not yet experienced.
And now we're watching these things and we've now we're
old enough, we're as old now as some of the
writers that we're writing this material for the young verse.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yes, it's all so mixed up and meta.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I really felt that when we were in the all
in the club and singing along with Gavin with I
Don't Want to Be, which is a real that was
really fun to bring in, and this thing that was
outside the show and now it's in. I kept thinking
of how just how funny it was that something that's
not a part of the inside of our Tree Hill world.
You know, when a world is created, a story world

(45:12):
is created, that's what you know. None of the characters
on I'm Gonna Use came to thrones again, but like
in none of those scenes, in none of those scenes
were there ever people playing instruments in like the court,
and they were never going.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
No no, no, no, no, no no, And that just didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
The fact that we got to bring that in and
then all of us were singing along that really that
touched me too.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
That felt great.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
And to both of your points were connected here. That
Gavin dropped his voice out, and all of us and
all of our extras who were by then, some of
them had been on set with us for ten years,
who were also fans of our show, who were also
parts of our crew family.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
We all got.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
To sing together and our crew, everybody, everybody.

Speaker 7 (46:02):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
I know that day was really so greatly special.

Speaker 7 (46:08):
How great was it getting to see Nathan being such
a good dad to Jamie on the river court. It's
all when, you know, because we've spent so much time
around basketball watching Nathan having a really crap dad. Yeah,
and it was like watching him break a generational cycle

(46:28):
in real time when he's like cool, Bud, Hey man,
if you like this, do it. And if you don't,
you don't know, you don't know anybody anything.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
That's the biggest arc of the whole show. I realized
watching in this episode. We talked last time about how
important Dan was to One Tree Hill and how it
wouldn't have existed, why we needed his character, but I
realized watching this, Oh, it was Nathan's redemption story, like
his arc, or maybe not Redemption's not the right word,
but like transformation arc and then breaking the general generational highs.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yes, that arc.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
What other show starts with the villain, the kid that
like he was the villain of the show. Nathan Scott
Dan was also the villain.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
But like, yeah, yeah, Nathan was the worst.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Nathan was the worst. What other show can you think
of where the kid that starts at or the person
that starts out as like hated and the villain ends
up being like the main character, star of.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
The entire thing, the hero, the hero of the whole thing.

Speaker 7 (47:29):
And Dexter No, I'm just kidding. I've never seen love Dexter.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
One of the things that I loved too. To your
point about breaking this curse is you watch Nathan break
a curse with Jamie and it and it does revolve
around legacy, and you watch Haley passing down one of
the best parts of our legacy, of our youth. You know,

(47:55):
they're having their sports moment and Jamie's learning he doesn't
have to beat himself up over it, and then you're
passing on the Wishington.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
That was the last scene I shot of the whole show.
It was really it was beautiful just being up there watching,
you know, seeing the looking out over the whole city
and being up there with our crew and with Jackson.

Speaker 7 (48:22):
Were you actually on top of Karen's Cafe.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
No, it's a parking lot, that is Oh that's right,
it's down the street. It is downtown, but it's it's
down the street.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
But it's a spot that we've been from from the pilot.
I think it was a spot that we yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Because you guys did mini golf up there, and then
when Karen's was close over Bros. We did Alex's photo
shoot up there. We would go and shoot all sorts
of things up there.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Water balloons, water balloons, all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 7 (48:55):
Speaking of water, Joy, how cold was the pumped in
rainwater for your notebook Backyard dance kissing?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Nice transition, Rob, that was pretty cold.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
It was November.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
Yeah, that's a rough time of year to be outside
getting wet in Wilmington.

Speaker 7 (49:15):
Dude, you guys sold it. It was fun and beautiful,
but also I can't ever watch anything like without thinking
of what it was actually like knowing and I was like, oh,
these guys were there, they were going through it because
I know you're getting notes, like have more fun with
the dancing and your tea, Paul, are you dying of hypothermia.
Right now, you have fun.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
It was so fun.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Actually, you give me the sixty seconds. I have a
little surprise while then Okay.

Speaker 7 (49:44):
See this, this is why you gotta watch on the
YouTube's for Sophia's cool haircut and whatever Joy is about
to bring back from the closet.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
You're very sweet to tell me I look cool today.
All I've been doing is crying into my sweatshirt sleeves.

Speaker 7 (49:59):
So look, lady, stick with it. What do you think
Joy is going to bring back?

Speaker 5 (50:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (50:06):
Do you think it's going to be the outfit.

Speaker 9 (50:08):
On that day?

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Oh my gosh, I wonder if it's the Crackerjack bracelet
because that's a runner that's from really early in the show.

Speaker 7 (50:25):
It's the outfit.

Speaker 6 (50:26):
Oh my god, Joy, it's the dress.

Speaker 7 (50:28):
I guess the dress.

Speaker 8 (50:30):
Get out of the dress in the RT.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
Oh my god, cute.

Speaker 7 (50:37):
That was a Beyonce speed wardrobe change hair. Oh my gosh, wow,
this is it.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
It's got the little stringy hanging out the Oh this
is the.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Dress and it was soaking wet, and I'm so glad
I kept it and brought it home.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
Oh I'm so glad you did too.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
And don't do I have anything in this locket? I
feel like, no, I meant to put something in, but yeah,
I have it still and I don't think i've actually
worn it except sorry, excuse me, since that day that
day until to day.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yeah, this was the dress.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
So it's wool, and it's kind of itchy. I'm allergic
to wool. But they were like, so this.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I'm okay.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
It's old enough now I feel like it's been washed,
so it's still a little cheap.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
It's okay.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
They they said, I was trying to find something else
and they said, look, it's it's November and it's going
to be water and you know what that's like here,
So you're probably better off in something that's going to
be like thick, a thick fabric.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
So this is what we picked.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Yeah, I think in a weird way it kept me
warm because when wool gets wet, it's not like, I
don't know, it doesn't do the same thing as cotton,
so it kind of still insulated me.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Wow, what a great saver.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
It was a great, great scene that was so fun,
such a fun time with James sentimental, knowing that it
was the last time we were going to have like
a big hate Nathan and Haley romantic moment, which we'd
been having with each other for ten years.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
Yeah, and even.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Though there was nothing ever romantic between the two of
us off camera, there's still like when you know that
you're not going to be spending that kind of intimate
time with someone anymore, it's just it's a friendship. It's
like there's just something that you know is going to change.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
And yeah, it was. It was really sweet.

Speaker 7 (52:31):
I have to say, where does it may sound? I
think I felt that because for some reason, like listen,
we've all seen each other kiss on camera so many
times that it's like whatever, Yeah, but I watched that
kiss and I was like, this is a passionate kiss.
I watched the way you were holding his head and
the way your guys's body language. I was like, ooh,
I got a little hot under the collar.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
It's funny.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
It's almost like a brotherly like, which obviously you I
wouldn't kiss my brother that way, but like, because there's
a friendship, it's like it's almost like the kissing is
not romantic and you're just it was care.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
It was just care.

Speaker 7 (53:06):
Yeah. Yeah, well it read as crazy, sexy, cool, but
I'm glad it was a yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
But I think there's something to your point about that.
You know, it's real intimacy is so much more than
just about like sexual chemistry. And you guys spent ten
years building this love story between Nathan and Haley, and
there is there's something so bittersweet when you know it's

(53:33):
about to be over. You know, every year we didn't
know if we were coming back, but this time we
finally knew we weren't. And I felt, to Rob's point,
like watching that kiss between you two, I was like,
oh my god, there's I can feel the this is
going to be the last time, and we want it

(53:54):
to look the best it's ever looked like. I could
feel it in there. And maybe it's because I know
you both so well, but I was like, oh my god,
there's something there was like an extra little squeeze or
something to it that was so sweet to watch.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
I mean, that was in my heart. I can't speak
for James, but I definitely felt that.

Speaker 7 (54:15):
Can I tell you a very small but cool win
that we almost breezed over at the very end. First
of all, I know I've said it, but I love
that Baker Man's across the street from Karen's. Perfect loved it.
I really like when we see Haley and Nathan lock
up and leave Karen's and as they come out, Brook

(54:37):
and Julian are leaving baker Man and Julian and his
just infinite likability and quirkiness goes cock and Nathan goes,
no one does that, Julian, which is how their dynamic
has been for so long. And in this case though,
Julian gets the win because he goes, actually, we do
it every week on the show, and Nathan goes, oh,

(55:01):
this is the come up, and Julian deserves man absolutely.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
And what I love about it too, you know the
initial clues that this is a jump ahead frankly, or
just that they put extensions in.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
All of our hair.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 6 (55:16):
You and I both had such.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Long hair to signify time, and and it's such a
gorgeous way to do exposition. Like the show is on
the air, it is successful, everyone is happy, and then
you realize, oh, Jamie's in high school now you know me,
we might be six years into the show, just like

(55:41):
we were nine years into Hours, and oh it was
just so it was so sweet. It was so special.
And then to cut over, you know, even when we're
in the montage of the end, you know it's pep
Rowley Knight. It's a big it's a big moment. And
to cut over and see one of my kids.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
With Lydia, yes, and Logan, Yes, we see Logan updated Logan.

Speaker 7 (56:05):
But did you guys was it clear to you that
was Logan? Because I remember, yeah, it was for me, okay,
because obviously Quinn and I make a face and like
smile at him. Yeah, but it just happened so quickly, Okay,
all right, I just kind of went liked, is that
that is? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Because he had the same kind of sharp features, like
facial features that were very say sharp, but like, yeah,
clearly defined. I guess similar similar facial features.

Speaker 7 (56:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (56:30):
I actually what was what was that track?

Speaker 7 (56:32):
For me?

Speaker 4 (56:32):
What was funny to me? And I liked cutting away,
you know, to one of the Baker boys and Lydia
because it gave me almost like a like a flashback
to Lucas and Haley. What almost didn't track for me
rob about the kids is I was like, well, where's
my other kid?

Speaker 6 (56:51):
And there's only one of them? And so which one
is it?

Speaker 4 (56:53):
Like that was funny to me that I was like, oh,
I guess, I guess only one of Brooke and Julian's
children has come to this.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Game getting a hot dog.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
Whatever.

Speaker 7 (57:02):
Here's the I was so confused. I didn't realize that
was Lydia at all. And I and so I see
a boy and a girl, and I'm like, I could
have sworn she had two boys.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
That was my first thought.

Speaker 7 (57:11):
I'm confused, did we miss an obvious thing lydia? Though
obviously yeah, yeah, that makes more sense. I loved in
that scene, the reveal that Millie's pregnant, and then I
had this moment of going, oh my gosh. You know,
it would have been so much better for these two.
They should have started off the season with the pregnancy

(57:31):
news with Millie, yes, and then let mouth be so
stressed about it. Yeah, that she's eating, and then it's like,
as she's getting bigger, he's getting bigger, and then it
can become about.

Speaker 6 (57:42):
Like, hey, dude, it would have been so cute.

Speaker 7 (57:43):
We have a kid. You need to rein it in,
you know, like you have to take care of yourself.
And I was like, oh, we just it came like
nine episodes too late. Nah, but still nice to see
them have that.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
I loved it. And what I really loved about that
scene was again the song. We finally got the U
two song, One Tree Hill.

Speaker 5 (58:02):
Finally.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
That was pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
It was really special. Also, it made me giggle.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
I mean, I must assume that in the beginning they said,
oh no, no, no, no, the show's definitely not named
after that song because they didn't want to get into
a royalties fight or like license.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Is that true?

Speaker 4 (58:18):
I mean, definitely that was the running thing forever. It
was like, no, it has nothing to do with that.
It's a total coincidence.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Because I was told straight away that was named after
the song. I was like, oh.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
Yeah, but the public line, god, it was, you know,
and I'm sure it was a legal thing.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
So I loved that.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Finally, we were like, yeah, obviously the show's named after
this incredible song and we have it.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, they named it after he said
they named it after the tree at the top of
the hill on Warner Brothers Studios lot.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
They said.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
He was like, yeah, okay, every single episode of our
show's named after a song. But the title of the
title of the show, that's the title of a song.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
They're just totally unrelated, so silly.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Yeah, that's pretty great.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
But it was awesome to hear that Zinc come in
when the lights are going and everyone's in the stands.
It all was just really really special.

Speaker 7 (59:15):
All the music in this episode is the reason it
wasn't a fourteen episode season. They're like, you can have
your songs and lose an entire episode or no, And
they were like, great, fourteen's overrated. Let's do thirteen and have.

Speaker 6 (59:28):
The good tracks, right, just give us the money for
the music.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (59:33):
Well, Gang, it was a ride.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
It was it was.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
It was a beautiful ending scene in the cafe with
all of us there. I loved all that, that great
sort of pan across and all of the everybody having
their little moments that tied in directly to everything that
was going on. And we even brought Lucas back a
little bit with the Julius Caesar tying back in from
the pilot. There was, as you said, Rob, there was
no fat in the episode. Everything was connected except for

(01:00:00):
the twins. I really feel like that could have lifted out,
but that's all right. I have a chip on my
shoulder about it. But otherwise everything was so beautiful. It
was such a beautifully done Yeah, serious.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
And I do just want to say, you know, we
don't see it in the episode obviously, but one of
the most special memories that I have is, you know,
the very last day of filming, the very last scene,
we were on Julian's set and we did that scene
in the hallway the high school lockers, and when we wrapped,

(01:00:37):
when we literally ended our show, hats off. I believe
it was Greg Praines who made this decision, who said
let's leave the cameras rolling. And they had every single
person on set that day, and every single member of
the crew. Everyone came in from the office and everyone
walked through the hallway and we have it on film.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Oh is that in the Oh? I wonder if that's
in the thing that we you're talking about, Rob.

Speaker 7 (01:01:03):
I didn't watch the last twenty minutes of it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Okay, it might be. I hope it is.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
It was this like gorgeous processional, like back through the
past and into our future that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Makes me emotional just thinking about. I really want to
see that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
It was really special. It was a really really special
day and you know, we we obviously have so much
to celebrate and so much love to be rateful for.
And I just want to extend so much gratitude to
our whole crew, because you know, they were always the
people who were unseen in these episodes, but we couldn't

(01:01:38):
have done it without them.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
And I will.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
Always cherish getting to do that walk with every single
person who helped make our show real.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
It's amazing, so cool.

Speaker 7 (01:01:52):
Can I give an honorable mention?

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Is it to our hair extensions?

Speaker 7 (01:01:55):
It's too that's that's the second honorable mention. No, I
just wanted to say that it's an unwrell mention for
you two. This has been so much fun for me,
you know, I think like you all. This was a
show I had initially after leaving, I had no interest
in revisiting, and then has come to bear all of
these fruits I wasn't expecting, and the best and biggest

(01:02:18):
fruit being the friendships that I now have with a
lot of you and this doing this podcast. I just
I love the two of you. You're so great and
the fact that I now have like a built in
reason to like into my calendar every week to like
get to see your faces and talk to you. Yeah,
and staying current in each other's lives. Has been such

(01:02:39):
a cool gift and a byproduct of this, so thank
you for having me on. It has been a treat.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
I love you, Roy, I love you been such a
beautiful experience with you as well. I love getting to
know you more and more, and I'm so grateful that
it's just not over. Like we'll keep showing up at
these conventions for as long as they'll have us. We'll
keep I mean, well I will. I don't know about you, but.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
I hope I get to see you there, and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Hopefully we'll have more reasons to jump on zooms and
things and keep talking about this and keep new things happening.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
Yeah, hell yeah, I love you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
At least we've got our live episode.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Well great, that makes me feel better because I don't
know how to end this episode, so I'll just see
you for the next one and then we don't have to.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
That's great.

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
Let's end it just like the Tree Hill series finale,
where like we're not saying goodbye, We're just saying like,
I'll see you soon, Yeah, see.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
You next soon. Hey, thanks for listening.

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
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