July 21, 2025 • 57 mins
Your favorite Drama Queens kick off Season 9 with fresh eyes and different vibes. Sophia takes us back to teenage Brooke, Joy raises questions about the wedding scene, and Rob recalls the lengths production went to for that merry-go-round moment.
Plus, the scene that hits differently when you're a parent, and an interesting theory about why the cast has aged so well!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, you don't know me.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We all about that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl,
all about.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
And our comic girl cheering for the right teams.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Drama, Queens of girl fashion, but your tough girl, you
could sit with us.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Girl Drama, Queen Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drahna Queens
Drama Queens. Okay, how's it going everybody out there? Oh boy,
do we have some fun stuff coming up for you.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I can't believe we're starting season nine. I also cannot believe.
I mean I can because we have the best fans
in the world. But we announced a live show for
Wilmington and sold out in like under an.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hour, and what real, unreal. You guys are the best.
Thank you so much for showing up for us.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The Eras tour didn't even sell out.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I don't know about it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We may not fill arenas, but we sell out faster
than Tea Swift.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
That's going on my bio from No on rap.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I have set well and we are so lucky that
the wonderful folks organizing the convention were able to add
one hundred extra seats because we sold out so fast
and then those sold out so fast that we kind
of have come up with a good plan.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I think, Robert, tell them what they've won.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
We're flying all of you who didn't get tickets down
to meet us. No I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What we are going to do for those of you
that weren't able to get a ticket or you are
just too far away to make the trip, which we
totally get. We are going to live stream the event.
So what that means is the tickets will go on sale.
You buy a ticket, and then you can watch it
all while it happens.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
For sure, you don't want to miss out on this.
So okay, it's available on November fifth at five pm PST.
You can watch it for a week and the tickets
are going on sale at VP dot com, so v
Epsnpeter dot com and they're twenty bucks. Guys, nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Come hang with us no matter where in the world
you are. I actually have no idea what's going to
be in store for you. And that's kind of the
fun thing. It's a live show. It's gonna be pure Shenanigans.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And you know what's great about it is that you
don't have to figure an outfit out.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
You don't have to worry about.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Maybe being stuck next to someone who's chewing gum loudly
or you do. If you're like me, You don't have
to worry about only bringing snacks that don't make a
lot of noise when you open them. You can be
as loud as you want because we can't hear you
from your living room, So go ahead, snack your best life,
wear your comfiest clothes, enjoy the show.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Or you could plan like a watch party with your
friends and then actually, yes, you want to make sure
you know what you're wearing because you're putting together an outfit.
You guys gonna dress up like characters from the show.
It's near Halloween. How how into it are you going
to get watch party at your house?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You know, I like all the options, and if you
want to have a hybrid option of Joy's plan and
Rob's plan, you could go for my plan, which is
watch party with friends all in pajamas and bonus points
for face masks. No matter how you watch, we want
to see it. Send us your photos, tag us in
your videos. We are so excited to celebrate with all
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of you. So if you want to join us on
the live stream, hit veep v as in Victor ee
P as in Peter.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Did you say?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I did say?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
You did? I wanted to make sure I got the
right one viep dot com and we will see you
there in the meantime. Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Are you ready for it?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Hey? Man?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
This episode started off red hot and did not let
this is how you kick a season off?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Man? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Hell yeah? What an episode?
Speaker 5 (03:53):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
This was okay, Well, let's read the thing right. Season nine,
episode one, Know This We've Noticed, which aired January eleventh,
twenty twelve. As Brooke and Julian began to adjust to
life with their new children, Haley and Nathan find themselves
dealing with similar issues. Are they dealing with similar issues?
I'm not convinced. Although they don't know it yet, faces
(04:14):
from the past threatened to interrupt plans for all their futures,
and meanwhile, a mysterious problem arises for Clay and Quinn.
I find the synopsis to be wholly inadequate.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I do too. It's very underwhelming for a fantastic episode.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
I want all of our producers behind the scenes to just.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Feel terrible right now about what you've done to the
drama Queen's podcast. Now, I'm just kidding, Hannah. You all
do great, No, you do.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
You guys doing a great job.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
That's actually because I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I hadn't read it until this moment, and it is
Are they trying to say that Haley and Nathan are
dealing with a familiar issue?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, first of all, I thought they'd get these synopsis,
these synopsis off the internet somewhere, I think so, I
think so. I'm sorry. I really didn't mean to insult producers.
That wasn't my attention. But I do think that Nathan
and Hayley are going through I don't know if it's
life with the new kids, like, that's not quite the
(05:12):
same thing. It's more like he's gone and she's I
guess she's holding down the homestead.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Well, and they have a relatively new baby.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, so there's some domestic you know issues they're figuring out.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So yeah, okay, okay, yeah, new new adjustment could be
worded better. Our producers are clarifying that no, they do
not write these, they do get them off the internet,
and they agree that they're terrible.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
So here we are, okay, Okay, Well, Look what an opening.
I mean, Okay, here's what we have. We have Dan
is cocking a gun and Chris Keller is with him,
with him in the car, bizarre. Then we've got Chase
spattered with blood in the back of a police car.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Then we have.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Clay yelling at Quinn like.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Get out of here.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I don't watch you here.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Then we have Brooke rashing a diner, the diner right
like the one in town Hailey is I ding a
body at the morgue and Julian is getting the chi
kicked out of him, and some massive houses on fire.
Maybe it's a diner now we know, but yeah, goodness, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I mean walled wall like in the opening voiceover of
Nathan is so good and ominous, and again like, what
is on fire in front of this man?
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Oh my god? That man is Dan Scott. Terrific.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
We've been thirsty for Dan Scott and then all of
a sudden we got Dan Scott and Chris Keller in
an episode of True Detective. We have Chase in an
episode of Cops. We have Julian and the feature of
fight club, and we have Clay who clearly needs a snack.
And I guess currently Brooke does too, like everyone was angry.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I love your recap. Wait, you should have been doing
this the whole time. It's so good.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
He's like, I know what's wrong with those two? They
need some carps. They're angry.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
That also might have just been me projecting, because I
know that Sophie and I our lives are so food centric.
That probably probably wasn't that, but that was my brain
first went.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I think what I.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Love about it is it was such a big jump
when we skipped ahead to season five and everyone was
coming home after four years and you had to figure
out where they'd all been, and you were learning in
these tidbits of flashback and the start of season nine
all plays and flash forward, and it's so smart. It's
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a device we know, but a new version of it,
and you're seeing things that make absolutely no sense once
you get out of the teaser, but you just can't wait,
and especially especially the Dan Scott bit, because when his
diner's burning and he's standing there and you think, oh God,
(07:58):
something's happened, but he does. He look upset, and then
the way he approaches Haley. It made all the hairs
on the back of my next stand up. It made
me feel so uneasy.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
He was so very Dan Scott doing Dan Scott things.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
But in a way we've never seen before. I have
never seen that level of fragility displayed from Dan Scott
in the entire nine seasons of the show. So I
think that's why Haley gave in, because it was so
seemingly out of character for him. So either he's really
(08:35):
had a life change and something is different, or he's
just super duper upgraded his manipulative tactics.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
It was also a smart device to open the season
with because we ended season eight because we didn't know
the future of the show on a very overwhelmingly positive note,
so that if it was the end of the show,
I think it would have left the viewers satisfied and
happy that they're the people they like had a good ending.
It was a great intro to be like, Okay, remember
(09:04):
how things were great not for long?
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Yeah, buckle up.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah yeah. The promise of what is coming this season
is delicious, delicios. So this is the insomnia episode basically
like Nobody Can Sleep, which I love that as a
device as well, the tie in for where everybody's at,
and it feels the sense of nostalgia that they tapped
into for that also is really great because I feel
(09:30):
like everybody can relate to that. I'm sure everyone can
relate to that on some level.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
One of the things that I loved too, that the
device works so well for each of these people. You know,
for what you're dealing with is Haley with Nathan on
the road, and you know what it feels like when
your partner has to leave all the time, Rob with
what Clay is going through and how scary it is
(09:55):
for Quinn and leaving us as an audience not quite
understanding why Clay's not taking it so seriously, but maybe
it's to try to, you know, lessen her stress. Who knows.
And then the classic device of Oh, I have a
kid that doesn't sleep two in fact, yeah, and I'm
driving them around in the car. I remember reading it
(10:16):
and going, God, I love this, and then catching the
scene where I was going to stop at a stoplight,
look over at all the kids outside the bar, the
kids we used to be, and then be one of
the kids, and I remember how smart it was. Carol
our wardrobe supervisor said, Oh, let's go into the archives
in the warehouse.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Oh, I recognize that outfit.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, so they actually pulled an outfit I'd worn like
eight years prior in high school, and it was so smart.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
That was one of my favorite moments of the episode.
I loved that so much. It was immediately drew me
right into every time I've driven past a place that
I visited or hung out when I was in high
school or when I would live in New York in
my late teens early twenties, and I would walk by
the same spot over and over again, you know, corners
(11:09):
that I had a kiss on with someone. It's like,
oh my.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Gosh, I love that.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I love that we're here. And it wasn't just Brooks nostalgia.
It was all of our nostalgia because we grew up
in Tree Hill. We all have been with her since
the beginning. And man, what a what a rich amount
of the story was told just in that quick moment.
I loved that.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Also, kudos to you, So if that what is it now?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Eight years later? You were still able to play high
school Brook So I actually had to like rewind to
see if we were watching season one footage or if
it was just they did the thing in high school.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Both of you guys had huge wins in that department
because so first of all, so if I thought first
I was like, oh wait is that old footage?
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I had to go back. So I was like, well, kudos,
because you're doing great. You're not aging. Joy For a moment,
I thought you caught Benjamin Button's disease, because I'm watching.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
The episode going how is she looking younger? Like when
is the television magic? What woman has a baby in
real life and fake life.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
And looks younger?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And then I realized you also cut your hair, so
that might have been part of it.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
But I was genuinely watching.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It going like, these two don't age. You got the
Dick Clark deal.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
You're just like, I'm not going to age for forty years.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
It's gonna be a great Clark deal.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Here's the thing. And this is something I actually have
to give kudos, accidental, but still to our producers. We
spent the entire decade of our twenties locked in sound
stages for seventeen hours a day, So when all of
our friends were like traveling and working odd summer jobs
(12:47):
and going out and like getting sunburned, we were living
like vampires.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Oh my god, Sophia, I never once in my life
thought that, oh do you think absolutely right? You're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
We have none of the sun damage all of our
friends have.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You're so right.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I've honestly kind of had to say, like when people
are like, really, what's to do, like are you I
don't know, are you doing like cryofacials? And I'm like, no,
it was it was a true accident. And like back
then when we would be so sad that we couldn't
go on the family reunion or like the fun birthdays
we have time to go to the beach, we didn't
even have time, never unless we were shooting there. And
(13:26):
I'm like, you know what, honestly, thank you, thank you
long days, thank you soundstages, thank you casino time. I will,
I will, I will be grateful forever.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That's awesome. True, it's so true.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
So listen, I'll take it. Lock me inside.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, that is so interesting. I loved that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I thought that the all of the all of the
brilliant exhaustion, the sleep deprivation storyline.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
It's so funny.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
You know how you revisit a show after time has
passed and you have changed and you have a new
experience with it because I was laughing during the opening
scene of You Guys because now that I have little
ones and I've been in that spot, ooh, I felt
that's so.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Deep in my bones.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And Julian's jokes about like listen, option be orphanage. Yeah,
they're beautiful, someone will take up, someone will.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Want them, They're cute.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I have had that exact same advance at four in
the morning to Jenny. I'm just like, hear me out,
what if?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
What?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah? I did like that. You guys did it really well.
It's fun to watch the two of you in that position,
and it's a good setup for the things that are
coming as well. Yeah, it was also good.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It felt so fun to play it then. But it's
just I'm basically just going to repeat what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
It's like everyone in my world since has kids. We've
all been through this in our own homes and each
other's homes so many times. Now that it does it
just cuts a little different. And I was laughing at
myself realizing like I was just riffing in that fish
eye camera, being like, oh, yeah, you don't like it
(15:10):
when you don't sleep join the club, you know whatever,
And I'm like that is literally how all of us
talk to kids, because they're nuts and sometimes you have
to talk to them like they're grumpy little old men,
so the only way to get through. I loved that
fish Eye Lads with your Dafne, and it's like I
didn't even know then how real the instinct was, and
now it just I don't know, it feels so funny
(15:31):
to me to see it.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, it was very believable.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
The only thing that I laughed at was it was
the It was the perfect CW portrayal of exhausted parents.
Oh of course, because you two both looked equally beautiful
and handsome, and I was like, this is the only
part of it. Yeah, I'm going to raise an eyebrow
at the rest of it is completely accurate.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Everybody still has a blowout and all they do is
paint a little purple under your eyes and they go,
look they're exhausted and haggard.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
You know what I appreciated though about your storyline, which
I think is kind of hard to pull off because
nothing really happened. Like you guys, they were just showing
you living your life and then you were trying to
go to the You went to the Christening and Dad
doesn't doesn't show, and that's you're trying to get the
babies to go sleep, like it's essentially there's no big
thing happening. But they made it really I would say
(16:22):
the writing, directing, and you guys also just made it
so enjoyable to watch that. I was really invested in
every part of your scenes, even though it wasn't like
high stakes or anything. And I was so happy when
your dad showed up. And I didn't know who to
expect because I forgot who he had hired to play
your dad. Yeah, and I don't remember his name. Was
(16:45):
he on Dawson's or.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Like Richard Bergee?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I think, yeah, yeah, Richard.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, he was great, What a great choice. He just
has that perfect mix of charm and schmarm.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, he's perfect, and the two of them and they're
the way they ruffle each other's feathers, but you can
kind of see where their chemistry used to happen. Yeah,
he and Daphne were so excellent.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Together, even him just calling her Vicky, such a great
insight into their history and their.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Dynamic so good. Also, Daphne's hair, I don't know what
she's doing to her hair. But that volume, I'm.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
It's so good. But when he called her the old
Gray Mayor, I went, oh yeah, like out loud, I gasped.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I couldn't remember this. Did James choose to shave his
head during our break? And he just kind of showed
up and was like, so I've buzzed my head. I
think that was what happened.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I think yeah. I think he thought the show was
over like we all did. And then they happened to
negotiate us back, but it was like, you know, probably
eleventh hour and so mm hmmm. He was like, well,
this is what you gotta work with here.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I am.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I think so all right. I have a question about Clay.
How is Clay say? Okay, I love the Clays asleep
on the playground so random?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Also, who's pushing the Merry go round?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
What I'm seeing?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Who's pushing the merry go round?
Speaker 5 (18:21):
There's no one at the park.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's not like you're small enough for the wind to
do it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
No, And anyone who's ever been on one of those
nose the inconvenience of them is that you have to
have a second party otherwise you're pushing and writing. Yet
Clay found the magic Merry Go Round and it just
spun him to sleep. Also a fun fact about those
those were I think outlawed in North Carolina.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
And that's this is what I remember being told me.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, I remember hearing something about this.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
They're removed from all the playgrounds because kids were getting
hurt on them.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I think, yes, they were getting their feet stuck underneath.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yes, we had to find like a decommissioned one essentially
and have it put like stabilized and put back in
the park for that singular shot. Yeah, and then taken
out again.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, kids were, But also how strange, like why not
just put Can they not just weld some netting, some
like metal netting onto the side of those things? Why'd
they have to remove all the fun from the playgrounds.
Feels like a solvable problem to me.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
But I interrupted you. Was that going to be your
question about Clay?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
That's it?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh okay, our biggest issue with the upcoming storyline is
who was pushing and Merry go Round?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Who was with him?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I did love you guys. Oh sorry, so go ahead.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I was just going to say. It is one of
those things where it adds a poetry to the shot,
but it pulls me out of the scene because I
have so many technical questions, And then I think, could
we not have just panned over all the playground paraphernalia
and found you and been just as surprised about where
(19:59):
you were?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Okay, to that end, how about Julian walking into his
empty soundstage that's pitch black. Okay, he opens the door,
you're gonna he's back lit for a moment, and then
we cut to him standing in the singular spot of light,
which is a spotlight, and he's standing in the middle
of it thinking.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Amazing, guys, I know what we're going for.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
But like, just for a second, imagine if we hadn't
cut and you had watched Julian walk over to the wall,
turn on a switch not the right one, turns on
the spotlight, and then walks over to the spotlight and then.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Stops to think in it, to stand in it. This
is my thinking light. Guys.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Oh, that's the kind of stuff that drives me crazy.
That would always drive me crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
You know what if we're gonna, if we're gonna say ours,
I'm gonna complete the trifacta. You know what drove me
absolutely crazy and gave me the uh huh was having
to call Richard Bergie daddy to run down the aisle
of the church and leap into his arms and go Daddy.
I was like, I, Oh, it's cute.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's so brook You don't know any Okay, I'm hanging
I'm hanging out with teenage girls right now, and they're
totally like if they love their dad, there's like daddy, Like,
come on, daddy, what's going on? I mean, it's a
dad most of the time, but on occasion like it's not.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Are you referring to did you cringe when you had
to do it? Or you're cringing watching now as an.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Adult a little bit of both, Like I I obviously
had to sell it to myself for Brooke, but I'm
like this girl who has all this like trauma, she's
been unpacking from her parents and this neglectful existence she
grew up in where she was parented by an amex
and not a human, Like it feels that lovey dovey
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about her dad. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I actually think I'm gonna fight for this because I
actually think it goes to making Brooks character so much
more real because a lot of girls who have so
many issues with their dad's being absent. It's too complicated
to express yourself emotionally and to actually share how you
really feel, so you just keep the mood light and
(22:10):
happy all the time because the depth of pain is
way too deep and too hard. I absolutely think Brooke,
just from watching what I've watched the last nine seats
or eight seasons, I totally think that would have been
Brook's reaction, not maybe today as like who we are
at our age now, but she was twenty eight or
something at the time, right.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, It's just I guess the shift was interesting for
me because she's sitting there holding one of her kids,
talking to Victoria, who's so pissed he's been invited in
the first place, and says, you know, oh, you think
your dad's just going to change all of a sudden,
And she looks at her mom and goes, you did
you know, essentially arguing like, let's give him a shot.
Maybe now there's grandkids in the picture or whatever, and
(22:53):
then it's like all gone. But what I remember is thinking, Okay,
if the shift is going to be that big, I'm
not just gonna run and call him this. I'm literally
going to leap into his arms like a child, like
if I'm going to do it, I wanted to be
so big that it kind of whiplashes Victoria.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
A little bit. It's good, but yeah, you can.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
It made me a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Wait did you okay, Well, let me ask you a
question though. Did you have to pass off one of
your children to someone before you ran down the aisle
or were you were your arms empty?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Was Victoria holding one and you were holding one? Joy?
I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I can't remember, because that does that would shift it
a little bit for me in terms of realism.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yes, I did pass off the baby because we stood up.
It was like, we can't wait anymore. It's time, and
I gave I gave a baby to you, I think,
or maybe to her. Either way, I remember I passed
off a baby. Sorry, guys at home, we watched this
episode a few days ago because we got our rearrange
(23:56):
rearranged a bit, so it's not so fresh in my
mind right now. But I did. I did pass off
said baby. I didn't just drop it on the way
to daddy.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, so that's a little funny to take the effort
to pass off the baby to run down the aisle.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
But I did it before he came in is what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Oh oh oh, okay, yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Yes, I will say I I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So because I think pop culture has really has really
given the word daddy extra ick in the last handful
of years.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
But as a viewer, I completely bought it.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
And to me, I was just watching a girl who
like is reverting back to the age when she had a.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Relationship with her dad.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I didn't at any point go like ooh. I was like, oh, yeah,
I see, I see the little girl who's been that's
that's her.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
You know, I'm glad.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I'm glad it worked. Sometimes I think that's the solve
when there's something on a page that where you go
like oh, personally, this gives me a little bit of
the ick to go like, well, I'm just gonna double
commit and then the comedy will come from it.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Yeah, you never look worse than when you do the
half commit. Nothing. Every worst when you can tell someone
wasn't sure of the choice and they only commit halfway.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Will never look worse than you do. Then you got
to go folder go nothing.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
The only things that haunt me are the half commits.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I love this about doing this podcast, that we have
these little things in the back of our mind on
a shelf somewhere that we're always cringed a little at,
and then we get to actually unpack them here and yeah,
maybe it.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Turns out it's not so bad, and your friends get
to be like, no, I thought that was a really
good choice, and you go, oh, oh nice.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I have a question because I remember parts of season nine,
but I do not remember all of it by any means,
So I don't know if you all remember this, But
are we where are you at with the fact that
what used to be Karen's cafe, I forget what we're
calling it now, the door was left open, which was
very suspicious. And then at Haley and Nathan's house the
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door was open. My because I know a story. I mean,
everyone's seen the show. Because I know what's going to
happen with Nathan. Eventually my brain first went there. But
are we thinking?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Were both of those Dan?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Like what are your And if you know the storyline
then that's different, But like I don't, I don't genuinely
wondering what was happening with those or are they a
red herring?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
We do know that Dan was in the house when
there was someone jiggling the doorknob at Nathan and Haley's place.
Wait he was Am I wrong? I thought Dan was
already staying there. We established like he's there, Nathan comes home,
everything's fine, and then one of the last shots at
Nathan Haley's house is that door with the shadow of
some large person or tall person like jiggling the doorknob.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
I don't think that's right.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Am I out of order?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
If any of your producers, no, you feel free to
chime in here, because I feel like Dan doesn't get
to the house till the very end of the episode.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Yeah, because then Nathan comes home and finds him, Yes,
right in the nursery with Lydia.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But why can he'd be like jiggling the doorknob like
he's trying to get in if he was already invited
to come. I don't know. That doesn't line up to me.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Because I thought the jiggle happened before he sees Haley
at the church.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
No, no, no, it was definitely at the end of
the episode. There was definitely like within the last like
ten minutes of the episode. I will be shocked if
I'm wrong, But I just watched it. I'm pretty sure
I'm right.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
We have our experts looking into it now, so we
will have back checkers, please.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I think it is part of this whole like serbian
mafia thing that's coming.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Okay, Like I said, that's because I know he gets kidnapped.
I was like, is that is this the foreshadowing? LL
have to I guess I have to keep watching.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yeah, you will. You'll have to solve this mystery.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
As a viewer, Chase and Alex are super duper cute.
I will say, I'm very surprised because I, for some
reason my brain had told me that it was always
chasing Mia the entire time throughout the whole show. I
did not remember that correctly, because they're still going strong.
And also, I think, yet again, Janna gets the metal
(28:12):
of valor or courage or just being a team player
for really having to just get all the wall objectified,
like the entire episode.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
You mean shoot a whole episode in her underwear's and.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Rolling around in a bed, not just like walking around
a house in her underwear, which would have been bad enough,
but like she's actually constantly being put in these positions.
Really it was Also, it's just lacks such imagination. I mean, fine,
if they're making out all day and I get the
storyline chases like I had a great sex life before
you showed up, blah blah blah, but like, there's a
lot of other ways to be making out with somebody.
(28:45):
How about it against a wall or something like do
you have to be laying in bed writhing around for
the entire episode? It just was so it was objectifying.
It really bothered me.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
That said, the two of them have such great chemistry
that they managed to keep it interesting. But yeah, I
did find myself after like the third or fourth pop
of her in those tiny booty shorts and like a
shot directly up her bomb. Yeah, I was like, oh,
and then I remembered, you know who was behind the helmet.
I was like, yeah, that tracks, there's the signature tracks.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
But I will say I I do echo your sentiment.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
It's like it's it's it tracks and to your point, Joy,
it's like so unimaginative, But they're so fun to watch
together that they make it sparkle anyway, Like they there's
a they're both obviously such good looking humans, but Jana
(29:46):
and Steven together bring out each other's goofy side, and
so there's this like goofy innocence in Chase and Alex.
That is, it's so unexpected and in an interesting way.
I almost think more unexpected because the writing is so typical,
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and so I've realized it's like, no matter what they're doing.
A they're both great sports and she is such a
team player. But I have so much fun watching them
that I can almost tune out the rest of the noise.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, we also have an update on the door jigglegate.
Dan was not in the house yet when the door
jiggle happens, it does it happens in the middle of
the episode.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, oh my gosh, Okay, my brain put that out
of order.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Well, actually, so that's really interesting because he says he
went looking for you and was told he saw Jamie,
and Jamie told him you were at the church with me.
So then I wonder if the idea is something's up,
something happened at the cafe, something's happening at the house,
and then rob exactly to your theory, the audience is
(30:58):
being led to believe, Oh, it's Dan looking for her.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Okay, so maybe yeah, weirdesting. I do want to go
back to to Chase and Alex though, because it was
really nice to hear Jana's music on the show and
such a great device for bringing Chris Chris Keller back
into the frame. Sean Genes, I.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Gotta say, you know when.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Like someone introduces you to like a new food you
haven't tried and it's so good and you're like, how
how what was my life before this?
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Like?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Did I not even know this existed? Because I only
know season seven, eight nine. I've never experienced Chris Keller.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Wait, is this your first time seeing him on?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
This is my first?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
All I knew about Chris is Tyler played him and
he talked to the person. So Tyler a video of
me watching this last night, and I was.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Like, buddy, you are incredible in this role.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Oh, he's so good.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
He is such a likable lothario. He's the worst and
the best at the exact same time. Yes, she is
so fun to watch Chris Keller.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
It is hard to pull that off too, to be
so smarty and so loved.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
And it's so great because him just coming back with
such a bang, being the absolute worst and so unimaginative
Harry Johnson case in point, but how well it plays
and then having him be the one who solves a
problem for Alex.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, it's like Haley's hated him for so long, Alex
is meeting him and hating him in this moment. He's
the worst, but he does add something and it is good.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
He sure does. Now Chase hates him as well. By
the way.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
That was my favorite line of the episode is after
Chase is yelling at Chris Keller because now he is
his girlfriend is like not paying ten you know they're
not having sex, and he ends it by saying, you
peacock looking dork yea, And man, if that isn't one
of my new favorite insults, that is so obscure and hilarious,
(33:15):
it's so great.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Wait.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Also, does Chase live at Red Bedroom because his bedroom
looked exactly like the Red Bedroom set and there were
no rugs. It was just like this linoleum waxed linoleum floor.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
We double the Red Bedroom set for his bedroom.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yeah, I think I think he might live in the
loft at the back of Trick, which is also at
the back of the recording studio.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Never knew that was there.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Interesting, but it's so great and and Jana's song is
so good yeah, yeah, And there is something that is
kind of fun about getting to see how a mix
works as a viewer. You know, we know I ever
really got to see a lot of music get produced.
We've seen so much music be performed, and we know
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there's this recording studio, but to see the layers go
into a song that is so great and then to
be so irritated that it's Chris who did it, and
he's like, yeah, well I just recorded this part and
recorded this part, recorded this part, past it in your vocals, like,
h he's the worst and he's the best.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It's so great. I love that too, And.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
You have to tolerate him because he's good.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
He's shown his value. So it's like far we need him,
but he is the worst thing to need.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
And clearly we really need him because at some point
he's about to buddy up with Dan Scott to get
involved in whatever Snannigan's is happening.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Did anyone else think or see the fact that he
is an absolute dead ringer for Hayden Christensen?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Oh yeah, Oh wow, I didn't spot that.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Now, Oh buddy, go back and look at this episode
and they we used to talk about that complete doppelgangers.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Oh that's wild.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I loved the Quinn and Clay stuff because it was
really fun to I mean, who hasn't had that night
where you're just up all night and your partner's next
to you and you're like, I can't sleep. What else
am I going to do? I mean, we're spilling popcorn
on you? And so it was really funny and you
know it. But I also it was nice to see that,
you like, all the things that are leading up to
(35:36):
what's coming down the pike for Clay and his storyline. Yeah,
it's just it was an interesting place to start knowing
or to flash backward to knowing where we were going
that there was going to be some massive blow up,
to start from a place where it's just pure coziness
and sweetness.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yeah, to watch your characters just really care about each other,
you know, and to your point, Joy, it's not dissimilar
to what's happening with Brooke and Julian. There's not really
a lot going on. There's a device, we have the babies,
you have the sleepwalking, but you're seeing these people just
be together and navigate something and what would probably feel
(36:20):
like a breath of fresh air, doesn't You kind of
can't settle into it because you know from the teaser
that all these crazy things are coming. Yeah, and so
it gives you like a sense of unease in a
scenario that should make you feel comforted.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
The irony that we've talked so often about our show
not taking time with storylines, but they rush through everything,
and now when they don't have twenty two episodes, there's
only thirteen. Now they're figuring out how to take their time.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Totally slowing down.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
What the heck, Trob, what were you going to say
about Quinn and Clay?
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yes? I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I mean, listen, if this is me in real life
and I'm like genuinely wandering away from my home, the
first thing I'm doing is going to the doctor.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
But I appreciated. I think Clay's doing two things. He
is one trying to not alarm his partner, so he's
trying to downplay because he sees Quinn is worried. I
also feel like, and it's a stereotype.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
For a reason, he is doing the total guy thing
of just not going to the doctor when you should
obviously go.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
To the doctor.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, that is such a trope because it's so true,
like everyone has like the dad or the uncle and
they're like, I don't work itself out, and you're like,
it's a broken arm, dummy, go to the doctor.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
You're bleeding all over.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
And then the other part of that when it gets resolved,
like after it happens again or whatever, and he can
see that, Quinn's like really bothered and he goes, all right,
we're gonna go to the doctor. And she goes today
and he goes day and I laughed, going like, yeah, right,
maybe fifteen years ago you could get a see.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Who is your GP that you can call and be
like can I pop in in two hours?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
And they're like, come on in, totally Nope. You know
what it makes me think of Rob have you because
I say this just because I'm such a fan of his.
Maybe you've seen it joy, But Mike Berbiglia is infamously
a sleepwalker, like severely. He walked through a plate glass
window once. If I'm remembering, who's the story from his
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He's like one of my favorite comedians ever. He's genius
and he talks a lot about this and in his
new special he's sort of getting into the next stage
of discoveries about his sleepwalking, and it's like, to your point,
it's it's so serious, like the idea that you would
sleepwalk not just in your home, but actually leave your home.
(38:56):
It's like it is like a level ten. Yeah, alarm
bells going off, crisis problem. And I love that. Clay's like,
it's not a big deal. I'll be fine. Just must
be having a funky dream, honey.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, dude, if you're if you have the capacity to
get dressed and navigate streets, that means you also have
the capacity to walk into traffic, to throw your wallet
in a random trash can, like.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
To break into someone's house.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
You know, you.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Literally just had the best case scenario of your nightmare
situation and you're like, not gonna take it seriously like that,
that to me is crazy.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Yeah, it is, Well, that's that's one of those things.
Though you had to commit to the bit. You had
no choice. It's not like you could go to the
writers and be like, guys, this is ridiculous. They're like, yeah,
we know, but it's your storyline for the season, so
good luck.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
And truthfully, I didn't think, like I actually don't think
it is super outlantic because I also think there's a
world in which Clay is also concerned. But sometimes people
are more concerned about finding out what the real issue is. Yeah,
then they are about just dealing with the symptoms. Yeah,
(40:07):
And I think you can make an easy argument that
that could be what Clays up.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
To right there.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yeah, Like he's too scared to go to the.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Doctor because what is happening to him is abnormal and
he can't explain it, and he's and it's out of control.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Like, I think it's very easy to go. That's a
guy who's just terrified.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
He's like he's ducking it in the sense that he's
he's presenting very calm, but under the water, he's just like,
what the hell is happening?
Speaker 3 (40:31):
M I think that makes a lot of sense, considering
everything Clay's been through recently, just to finally be in
a place of like low drama, everything's cool and like,
oh no, my my Psyche is playing tricks on me.
I've got lots of under the current things happening. That's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
And I think we had, like so far, what we've
seen of Clay, he's not really a guy who has
shown much interest in really like taking a peek under
the hood and like what really going on inside Clay,
you know, like he wasn't really dealing with the Sarah stuff.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
He was running from it.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
We haven't really seen a lot of processing around nearly dying. Yeah,
you know, if there's anything wrong with that, but it
would it would track if this same person then was
like and now I have a new thing. No, I'm
going to just bury my head in the sand and
hope it just passes.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Yeah, it's like you're disassociating a little bit. Yeah, and
not that we've seen it, but I think the intensity
of what will this be when you consider the context
of you know, twenty eleven, twenty twelve, like if you'd
plugged these symptoms into WebMD, it would one hundred percent
have said brain tumor, so like, of course you don't
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want to go to the.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
Doctor, and on that.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
I love it when she stays up all night and
then of course she's exhausted and you know, she's asleep
in the doctor's office in Clay says like, oh, I
have what she's having. And then the next that they
do such a fun job of Julian getting the bad
news about the stages, him walking out of the church
on the phone call, and then quickly in the foreground,
clays car pulls up unsing outside of Sleep and then.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Just keeps going. Yeah, so good.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
It was just like a fun little wink for the audience.
You know, by the way, this is for you guys.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
Enjoy.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
I love it when they showed, show, don't tell. It's
so nice when they stop explaining and just show things.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
One of my favorite things I've ever seen on a
show was I want to see Maybe in the second
season of Easy, which was on Netflix, and it's so good,
and there's an episode because it's an anthology series, but
it all happens in Chicago, and there's an episode where
the group of people you're following in that episode are
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standing in line for coffee, and the people in line
behind them are the couple you'd seen in the episode before.
And it was such a simple little nod. And they
were probably finishing one episode in the coffee shop and
then starting the knack or whatever, you know, location based shooting,
and they threw them in there and it's like you
just understand, Oh, they all live in the same neighborhood.
(43:08):
It's tiny things like that that put together a geography
and a life and you guys driving by because we're
all downtown makes perfect sense.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Yeah, it's that connective tissue that sort of builds your world,
you know.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Yeah, I love it and it was funny.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Last exciting thing about the episode is the possibility of
Brooks new line with Victoria starting over, starting this whole
company all over again. That it's like, yeah, we could
start all over. Mom, is that what she said? Like, oh,
and you shot at you holding the baby while you
said that to her went, oh, man, look how far
we've come. Little baker Man.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
I think that's a terrific name for a clothing label.
That's one of my names I do too. Yeah, it's
just because Ted Baker's already out there, so I've seen
baker a lot, but no, but baker Man's also it's
a bit of as a reference to the Patty Cake song.
But I was like, this is why Brooke is successful,
because that's a genius name.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Yeah, amen's especially little kids, because let's be honest, there
is nothing in the world than little kid close.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Come on, baby clothes are the best best, they really are.
And I remember thinking when I read this script, I
still I was like, fuck, that's a good idea, and
I was so mad it wasn't mine.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
And I still knew that way.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Because I was like, well, I could never do it
because it's you know, from our show.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Wah, going back to the church.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
I thought the scene with uh Dan and Hailey was
great because you're right, Joy, I thought the same as
you were. Granted, I've only seen a couple seasons of
this show, but I have never seen Dan present that
vulnerable and sincere, so it made sense that she was
willing to entertain it.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Yes, because the sincerity was surprising, But there was also
something that just the shape of the building gave to
the scene. That long aisle and you having to walk
down toward him.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
It almost gave the.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Hallway shot from the shining, you know, like you just
didn't know what she was going to walk into, and
then the ceiling height in the two shot where you're
facing each other. It made it feel so tense.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
Yeah, very very Hitchcock for to go.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
Yeah, it was a neat thing.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
One of the benefits of having a good actor like
Paul that in, who's played this character for so long.
He knows the history, he knows that just a regular
cell is not going to work on Hailey, and so
that was all Paul like knowing that he can't just
come back. He's not going to insult the intelligence of
the character of Haley's character by coming in and just
(45:55):
giving her the same old spiel. Like he knew it
was going to have to be absolutely heartbreaking and plausible
that he's changed in a real way. I'm so grateful
he did that and that he understood that, because it
really made it work. I think for me, it was.
Speaker 5 (46:13):
Also smart to have there be foot leather between the
two of you, because that was all time for the
audience to go, oh crap, what is this about to be?
Speaker 1 (46:22):
You know, because of this shared history of you two,
and because of who Dan Scott is. I liked that
there was a moment for me to kind of spin
out about, oh crap, it's about to happen.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
Yeah, because I caught myself catch my breath, Like in
that walk, I inhaled and I realized as I was
watching you too, I was holding my breath and I thought, Oh, okay,
like this this is a good build up to a scene.
And to your point, him being so fragile and so
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willing to bring so much emotion and be still and
look scared. We've just not seen that in Dan and
it it's the only way, after everything we know about him,
for you to give him one more shot.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's the only way. There's nothing else.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
I just want to time check us because I know
you have to go to the I do.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
I'm sorry, guys, I got to bounce out. But I
loved this episode. This was a really exciting way to
kick everything off. And I can't wait to see what
is what's coming around the corner.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Here we go, by joy, you have a good doctor's appointment, honey.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Thanks, see you guys later.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
And I loved the the reveal for Nathan of Dan
Scott was Dan Scott in his home, more specifically Dan
Scott in the nursery holding his baby.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Like, yeah, that is such a true pass. That is
so in your face aggressive, Like I it's such a
great way to end the episode and as a starting
point for the two of them, because oh, that's such
a no no.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
And the repeat of the quote from the intro, hell
is empty and all the devils are here. Yeah, and
it's him and the I mean, it's it's like a
worst nightmare scenario. And similarly to seeing Dan differently in
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the church. There's a look on Nathan's face unlike anything
we've ever seen before, and it it just really the
whole episode has been leading to this. You guys have
no idea what you're in store for, and it's who unnerving.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
And I like it so ominous And the fact that
both times the line the are here it is Dan
Scott on so it's hard as a viewer to not
feel like we are being told that he is still,
in fact dark Dan Scott.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, I mean because we've all how many times have
we also seen him do? It is like redemption and
I've changed.
Speaker 5 (49:14):
So yeah, super effective, great episode. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Let's do a listener question. Okay, Hi, my name is Lucia.
I'm fifteen and I'm a huge fan of One Tree Hill.
Which set or sets from the show did you like
the most and which set are sets did you dislike
the most? And why were there any sets that were
more challenging to work on than others? I will say,
(49:39):
does does it stay Karen's Cafe and season nine or
have you all renamed it?
Speaker 5 (49:43):
It's still Karen's Cafe. Yeah, I really liked working with
you guys.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
On.
Speaker 5 (49:48):
I liked it. I like any scenes I had in.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Karen's Cafe because that generally meant that I was also
going to be interacting with people I don't normally get
to interact with, So like I got to see you,
I got to see Joe, and it did start to
feel like.
Speaker 5 (50:02):
That place has a very cheers vibe to it.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
I was just gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
And so for me personally, I love that set because
it usually meant there's gonna be a lot of people
in the room. It's going to be some people I
don't get to work with, So that was one of
my favorites.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Yeah, I always loved that set. It was always one
of my favorites to work on all through the seasons,
whether it was the cafe or the show, or the
cafe or the store or becoming the cafe again. And
I think, what set it up for me so well,
And this is a perfect question to have in this
episode is the hi everyone by everyone that Haley and
(50:35):
Brooke get in this episode. It communicates without anyone having
to say, this is our cheers. This is the place
where everybody knows your name. This is the place where
everybody gets to come on the wall. It says, this
is the place and there's something really special about it,
and I have so many great memories there of some
(51:00):
of the scenes that were the most fun to shoot,
that I thought were the funniest on the show, some
of the things that were the most emotional. I mean,
you know, brooking Julian's whole journey and brooking Victoria together
and the stuff that's coming in this season. Like it
it's just the place where I think all the best
things have happened. I know I feel that way, and
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I think to your point, so many of the characters do,
like when you see yourself in a Karen's Cafes and
you know you're gonna have a good time, or that
you know someone's going to have this huge emotional breakthrough,
and I love that.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
And as far as least favorite, I don't have a
least favorite set off hand, but I can say a
least favorite location anything I had to do in the rain,
because the water they pump in for rain is like
iceberg melt. It's never it's the coldest thing. It takes
your breath away, so it's always not fun to do.
And the river that we shot where I tackle Kellerman
(51:56):
into the water and Austin and James get in there,
because not only was it cold, but as I mentioned before,
it had a dangerously high.
Speaker 5 (52:03):
Fecal contaminant level. So no one wants to be in that.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
Nope, nobody wants to be on a poop cruise.
Speaker 5 (52:11):
Nope. You know I'm good on a poop cruise.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
Hey, yeah, I'm I'm gonna echo your sentiment. Rain towers
the worst, especially because for whatever reason, when we would
have to shoot those, it was usually February and it
was like thirty four degrees out, so just warm enough
that it wouldn't freeze, but you felt like you were
being frozen in a block of ice. Yeah, And then
(52:36):
I would say the things that I always found the
hardest were when we had to go out, like to
our beach houses, when we'd have to go down to
Topsail or out to Carolina Beach, and instead of you know,
thirty twenty to forty minutes to get to work, you
were looking at an hour and change each way. When
you're on set for sixteen hours and then your days
(52:58):
like eighteen and a half as of travel, it would
just make me want to cry. So not really.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
About the set, just about like when will we ever.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
Get home and lay down? Yeah, it was hard for me.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
Agreed, Shall we spin a wheel?
Speaker 4 (53:13):
I think we should spend a wheel. I wonder what
it's going to be. I think this is.
Speaker 5 (53:24):
Us likely to cry during a rom com. I mean
you're a layup for that, right Yeah?
Speaker 4 (53:32):
Yeah, I feel like you would too, though. I feel
like you might be a secret rom com cryer.
Speaker 5 (53:37):
No, no, I gotta like up. You know the Pixar
movie Up. Oh, No, like cried at that opening, Yeah, devastation.
But rom coms not as much. Do I think you
know it is because it's I don't cry very often.
I think I have to be a bit emotionally ambushed.
Oh and Up. I was like, oh, I'm seeing a cartoon.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
And then it was the most heartbreaking love story in
the opening, and I was like, I wasn't prepared for
this another one.
Speaker 5 (54:05):
Everything everywhere, all at work.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Sobbed. Yes.
Speaker 5 (54:08):
At the ending when I realized it was actually just
about a mother and a daughter trying to connect, wept.
Speaker 4 (54:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
So, and I think a rom com, I know what
the emotional manipulation ahead is.
Speaker 5 (54:18):
Wh I'm prepared for it. I think when I get
blindsided is where interesting? I'm open.
Speaker 4 (54:25):
Interesting. I like that.
Speaker 5 (54:27):
So rom coms get you though, Oh.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
Yeah, I'm just yeah, I'm a crier. I also cry
a lot watching documentaries full sob often.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
I like it, though, I think that's a soup. As
someone who's the opposite end of the extreme. I would
rather be closer to where you're at. I think it
would be healthier if I if I cried more. But
you know, that's something for me to take to therapy.
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (54:51):
I was going to say, do you know just many,
just many years of therapy, my dear, Yeah, I had.
Maybe I have to actually send you photos of this.
The coolest experience this week. We took the family down
to Florida so the kids could see the grandparents for
Ocean's birthday. And the sea turtles were laying eggs and
(55:12):
we went out. The beaches are all marked, you know,
where you can and can't go, and there was like
a spot where we could walk and watch. And when
I tell you, one of these massive turtles came up
out of the water eight feet from me and I
stood there for forty minutes and just watched her walk
(55:32):
up to her spot. I fell to the ground and wept.
I just wept on my knees. I was like, I
can't explain how unbelievable it is to see this, like
we live on a planet where this happens. And I sobbed, and.
Speaker 5 (55:51):
Ash literally looked at me.
Speaker 4 (55:52):
She goes, this is like your space movie.
Speaker 5 (55:55):
I was like, it is, but that's a special thing.
I will say.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
We used to vacation in Florida, so I've seen I've
seen that as well, and it's.
Speaker 5 (56:06):
Because like they're also they're endangered, so it's rare. They're
so vulnerable. I imagin that's what I'm saying, Like I
get the emotional poll and the like.
Speaker 4 (56:15):
Science peeps were out on their little like scooter things
with the red lights checking on everything and making sure
everything was cool, and I was just like, this is
so look at there's people out here on one in
the morning, on like no light ATVs to save the jurnles.
I just I couldn't stop crying. It was I'm unhinged,
but here we are.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Well, speaking of unhinged, Join us next week season nine,
episode two, The Room where You Sleep.
Speaker 4 (56:41):
That sounds very creepy.
Speaker 5 (56:43):
See you next weekend.
Speaker 3 (56:45):
Bye, Hey, thanks for listening.
Speaker 4 (56:47):
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Speaker 4 (00:31):
I can't believe we're starting season nine. I also cannot believe.
I mean I can because we have the best fans
in the world. But we announced a live show for
Wilmington and sold out in like under an.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hour, and what real, unreal. You guys are the best.
Thank you so much for showing up for us.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The Eras tour didn't even sell out.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I don't know about it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We may not fill arenas, but we sell out faster
than Tea Swift.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
That's going on my bio from No on rap.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I have set well and we are so lucky that
the wonderful folks organizing the convention were able to add
one hundred extra seats because we sold out so fast
and then those sold out so fast that we kind
of have come up with a good plan.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I think, Robert, tell them what they've won.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
We're flying all of you who didn't get tickets down
to meet us. No I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What we are going to do for those of you
that weren't able to get a ticket or you are
just too far away to make the trip, which we
totally get. We are going to live stream the event.
So what that means is the tickets will go on sale.
You buy a ticket, and then you can watch it
all while it happens.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
For sure, you don't want to miss out on this.
So okay, it's available on November fifth at five pm PST.
You can watch it for a week and the tickets
are going on sale at VP dot com, so v
Epsnpeter dot com and they're twenty bucks. Guys, nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Come hang with us no matter where in the world
you are. I actually have no idea what's going to
be in store for you. And that's kind of the
fun thing. It's a live show. It's gonna be pure Shenanigans.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And you know what's great about it is that you
don't have to figure an outfit out.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
You don't have to worry about.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Maybe being stuck next to someone who's chewing gum loudly
or you do. If you're like me, You don't have
to worry about only bringing snacks that don't make a
lot of noise when you open them. You can be
as loud as you want because we can't hear you
from your living room, So go ahead, snack your best life,
wear your comfiest clothes, enjoy the show.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Or you could plan like a watch party with your
friends and then actually, yes, you want to make sure
you know what you're wearing because you're putting together an outfit.
You guys gonna dress up like characters from the show.
It's near Halloween. How how into it are you going
to get watch party at your house?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You know, I like all the options, and if you
want to have a hybrid option of Joy's plan and
Rob's plan, you could go for my plan, which is
watch party with friends all in pajamas and bonus points
for face masks. No matter how you watch, we want
to see it. Send us your photos, tag us in
your videos. We are so excited to celebrate with all
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of you. So if you want to join us on
the live stream, hit veep v as in Victor ee
P as in Peter.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Did you say?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I did say?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
You did? I wanted to make sure I got the
right one viep dot com and we will see you
there in the meantime. Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Are you ready for it?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Hey? Man?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
This episode started off red hot and did not let
this is how you kick a season off?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Man? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Hell yeah? What an episode?
Speaker 5 (03:53):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
This was okay, Well, let's read the thing right. Season nine,
episode one, Know This We've Noticed, which aired January eleventh,
twenty twelve. As Brooke and Julian began to adjust to
life with their new children, Haley and Nathan find themselves
dealing with similar issues. Are they dealing with similar issues?
I'm not convinced. Although they don't know it yet, faces
(04:14):
from the past threatened to interrupt plans for all their futures,
and meanwhile, a mysterious problem arises for Clay and Quinn.
I find the synopsis to be wholly inadequate.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I do too. It's very underwhelming for a fantastic episode.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
I want all of our producers behind the scenes to just.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Feel terrible right now about what you've done to the
drama Queen's podcast. Now, I'm just kidding, Hannah. You all
do great, No, you do.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
You guys doing a great job.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
That's actually because I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I hadn't read it until this moment, and it is
Are they trying to say that Haley and Nathan are
dealing with a familiar issue?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, first of all, I thought they'd get these synopsis,
these synopsis off the internet somewhere, I think so, I
think so. I'm sorry. I really didn't mean to insult producers.
That wasn't my attention. But I do think that Nathan
and Hayley are going through I don't know if it's
life with the new kids, like, that's not quite the
(05:12):
same thing. It's more like he's gone and she's I
guess she's holding down the homestead.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Well, and they have a relatively new baby.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, so there's some domestic you know issues they're figuring out.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So yeah, okay, okay, yeah, new new adjustment could be
worded better. Our producers are clarifying that no, they do
not write these, they do get them off the internet,
and they agree that they're terrible.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
So here we are, okay, Okay, Well, Look what an opening.
I mean, Okay, here's what we have. We have Dan
is cocking a gun and Chris Keller is with him,
with him in the car, bizarre. Then we've got Chase
spattered with blood in the back of a police car.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Then we have.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Clay yelling at Quinn like.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Get out of here.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I don't watch you here.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Then we have Brooke rashing a diner, the diner right
like the one in town Hailey is I ding a
body at the morgue and Julian is getting the chi
kicked out of him, and some massive houses on fire.
Maybe it's a diner now we know, but yeah, goodness, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I mean walled wall like in the opening voiceover of
Nathan is so good and ominous, and again like, what
is on fire in front of this man?
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Oh my god? That man is Dan Scott. Terrific.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
We've been thirsty for Dan Scott and then all of
a sudden we got Dan Scott and Chris Keller in
an episode of True Detective. We have Chase in an
episode of Cops. We have Julian and the feature of
fight club, and we have Clay who clearly needs a snack.
And I guess currently Brooke does too, like everyone was angry.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I love your recap. Wait, you should have been doing
this the whole time. It's so good.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
He's like, I know what's wrong with those two? They
need some carps. They're angry.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
That also might have just been me projecting, because I
know that Sophie and I our lives are so food centric.
That probably probably wasn't that, but that was my brain
first went.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I think what I.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Love about it is it was such a big jump
when we skipped ahead to season five and everyone was
coming home after four years and you had to figure
out where they'd all been, and you were learning in
these tidbits of flashback and the start of season nine
all plays and flash forward, and it's so smart. It's
(07:37):
a device we know, but a new version of it,
and you're seeing things that make absolutely no sense once
you get out of the teaser, but you just can't wait,
and especially especially the Dan Scott bit, because when his
diner's burning and he's standing there and you think, oh God,
(07:58):
something's happened, but he does. He look upset, and then
the way he approaches Haley. It made all the hairs
on the back of my next stand up. It made
me feel so uneasy.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
He was so very Dan Scott doing Dan Scott things.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
But in a way we've never seen before. I have
never seen that level of fragility displayed from Dan Scott
in the entire nine seasons of the show. So I
think that's why Haley gave in, because it was so
seemingly out of character for him. So either he's really
(08:35):
had a life change and something is different, or he's
just super duper upgraded his manipulative tactics.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
It was also a smart device to open the season
with because we ended season eight because we didn't know
the future of the show on a very overwhelmingly positive note,
so that if it was the end of the show,
I think it would have left the viewers satisfied and
happy that they're the people they like had a good ending.
It was a great intro to be like, Okay, remember
(09:04):
how things were great not for long?
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Yeah, buckle up.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah yeah. The promise of what is coming this season
is delicious, delicios. So this is the insomnia episode basically
like Nobody Can Sleep, which I love that as a
device as well, the tie in for where everybody's at,
and it feels the sense of nostalgia that they tapped
into for that also is really great because I feel
(09:30):
like everybody can relate to that. I'm sure everyone can
relate to that on some level.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
One of the things that I loved too, that the
device works so well for each of these people. You know,
for what you're dealing with is Haley with Nathan on
the road, and you know what it feels like when
your partner has to leave all the time, Rob with
what Clay is going through and how scary it is
(09:55):
for Quinn and leaving us as an audience not quite
understanding why Clay's not taking it so seriously, but maybe
it's to try to, you know, lessen her stress. Who knows.
And then the classic device of Oh, I have a
kid that doesn't sleep two in fact, yeah, and I'm
driving them around in the car. I remember reading it
(10:16):
and going, God, I love this, and then catching the
scene where I was going to stop at a stoplight,
look over at all the kids outside the bar, the
kids we used to be, and then be one of
the kids, and I remember how smart it was. Carol
our wardrobe supervisor said, Oh, let's go into the archives
in the warehouse.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Oh, I recognize that outfit.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, so they actually pulled an outfit I'd worn like
eight years prior in high school, and it was so smart.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
That was one of my favorite moments of the episode.
I loved that so much. It was immediately drew me
right into every time I've driven past a place that
I visited or hung out when I was in high
school or when I would live in New York in
my late teens early twenties, and I would walk by
the same spot over and over again, you know, corners
(11:09):
that I had a kiss on with someone. It's like,
oh my.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Gosh, I love that.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I love that we're here. And it wasn't just Brooks nostalgia.
It was all of our nostalgia because we grew up
in Tree Hill. We all have been with her since
the beginning. And man, what a what a rich amount
of the story was told just in that quick moment.
I loved that.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Also, kudos to you, So if that what is it now?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Eight years later? You were still able to play high
school Brook So I actually had to like rewind to
see if we were watching season one footage or if
it was just they did the thing in high school.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Both of you guys had huge wins in that department
because so first of all, so if I thought first
I was like, oh wait is that old footage?
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I had to go back. So I was like, well, kudos,
because you're doing great. You're not aging. Joy For a moment,
I thought you caught Benjamin Button's disease, because I'm watching.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
The episode going how is she looking younger? Like when
is the television magic? What woman has a baby in
real life and fake life.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
And looks younger?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And then I realized you also cut your hair, so
that might have been part of it.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
But I was genuinely watching.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It going like, these two don't age. You got the
Dick Clark deal.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
You're just like, I'm not going to age for forty years.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
It's gonna be a great Clark deal.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Here's the thing. And this is something I actually have
to give kudos, accidental, but still to our producers. We
spent the entire decade of our twenties locked in sound
stages for seventeen hours a day, So when all of
our friends were like traveling and working odd summer jobs
(12:47):
and going out and like getting sunburned, we were living
like vampires.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Oh my god, Sophia, I never once in my life
thought that, oh do you think absolutely right? You're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
We have none of the sun damage all of our
friends have.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You're so right.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I've honestly kind of had to say, like when people
are like, really, what's to do, like are you I
don't know, are you doing like cryofacials? And I'm like, no,
it was it was a true accident. And like back
then when we would be so sad that we couldn't
go on the family reunion or like the fun birthdays
we have time to go to the beach, we didn't
even have time, never unless we were shooting there. And
(13:26):
I'm like, you know what, honestly, thank you, thank you
long days, thank you soundstages, thank you casino time. I will,
I will, I will be grateful forever.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That's awesome. True, it's so true.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
So listen, I'll take it. Lock me inside.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, that is so interesting. I loved that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I thought that the all of the all of the
brilliant exhaustion, the sleep deprivation storyline.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
It's so funny.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
You know how you revisit a show after time has
passed and you have changed and you have a new
experience with it because I was laughing during the opening
scene of You Guys because now that I have little
ones and I've been in that spot, ooh, I felt
that's so.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Deep in my bones.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And Julian's jokes about like listen, option be orphanage. Yeah,
they're beautiful, someone will take up, someone will.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Want them, They're cute.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I have had that exact same advance at four in
the morning to Jenny. I'm just like, hear me out,
what if?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
What?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah? I did like that. You guys did it really well.
It's fun to watch the two of you in that position,
and it's a good setup for the things that are
coming as well. Yeah, it was also good.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It felt so fun to play it then. But it's
just I'm basically just going to repeat what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
It's like everyone in my world since has kids. We've
all been through this in our own homes and each
other's homes so many times. Now that it does it
just cuts a little different. And I was laughing at
myself realizing like I was just riffing in that fish
eye camera, being like, oh, yeah, you don't like it
(15:10):
when you don't sleep join the club, you know whatever,
And I'm like that is literally how all of us
talk to kids, because they're nuts and sometimes you have
to talk to them like they're grumpy little old men,
so the only way to get through. I loved that
fish Eye Lads with your Dafne, and it's like I
didn't even know then how real the instinct was, and
now it just I don't know, it feels so funny
(15:31):
to me to see it.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, it was very believable.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
The only thing that I laughed at was it was
the It was the perfect CW portrayal of exhausted parents.
Oh of course, because you two both looked equally beautiful
and handsome, and I was like, this is the only
part of it. Yeah, I'm going to raise an eyebrow
at the rest of it is completely accurate.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Everybody still has a blowout and all they do is
paint a little purple under your eyes and they go,
look they're exhausted and haggard.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
You know what I appreciated though about your storyline, which
I think is kind of hard to pull off because
nothing really happened. Like you guys, they were just showing
you living your life and then you were trying to
go to the You went to the Christening and Dad
doesn't doesn't show, and that's you're trying to get the
babies to go sleep, like it's essentially there's no big
thing happening. But they made it really I would say
(16:22):
the writing, directing, and you guys also just made it
so enjoyable to watch that. I was really invested in
every part of your scenes, even though it wasn't like
high stakes or anything. And I was so happy when
your dad showed up. And I didn't know who to
expect because I forgot who he had hired to play
your dad. Yeah, and I don't remember his name. Was
(16:45):
he on Dawson's or.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Like Richard Bergee?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I think, yeah, yeah, Richard.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, he was great, What a great choice. He just
has that perfect mix of charm and schmarm.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, he's perfect, and the two of them and they're
the way they ruffle each other's feathers, but you can
kind of see where their chemistry used to happen. Yeah,
he and Daphne were so excellent.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Together, even him just calling her Vicky, such a great
insight into their history and their.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Dynamic so good. Also, Daphne's hair, I don't know what
she's doing to her hair. But that volume, I'm.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
It's so good. But when he called her the old
Gray Mayor, I went, oh yeah, like out loud, I gasped.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I couldn't remember this. Did James choose to shave his
head during our break? And he just kind of showed
up and was like, so I've buzzed my head. I
think that was what happened.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I think yeah. I think he thought the show was
over like we all did. And then they happened to
negotiate us back, but it was like, you know, probably
eleventh hour and so mm hmmm. He was like, well,
this is what you gotta work with here.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I am.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I think so all right. I have a question about Clay.
How is Clay say? Okay, I love the Clays asleep
on the playground so random?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Also, who's pushing the Merry go round?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
What I'm seeing?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Who's pushing the merry go round?
Speaker 5 (18:21):
There's no one at the park.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's not like you're small enough for the wind to
do it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
No, And anyone who's ever been on one of those
nose the inconvenience of them is that you have to
have a second party otherwise you're pushing and writing. Yet
Clay found the magic Merry Go Round and it just
spun him to sleep. Also a fun fact about those
those were I think outlawed in North Carolina.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
And that's this is what I remember being told me.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, I remember hearing something about this.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
They're removed from all the playgrounds because kids were getting
hurt on them.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I think, yes, they were getting their feet stuck underneath.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yes, we had to find like a decommissioned one essentially
and have it put like stabilized and put back in
the park for that singular shot. Yeah, and then taken
out again.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, kids were, But also how strange, like why not
just put Can they not just weld some netting, some
like metal netting onto the side of those things? Why'd
they have to remove all the fun from the playgrounds.
Feels like a solvable problem to me.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
But I interrupted you. Was that going to be your
question about Clay?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
That's it?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh okay, our biggest issue with the upcoming storyline is
who was pushing and Merry go Round?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Who was with him?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I did love you guys. Oh sorry, so go ahead.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I was just going to say. It is one of
those things where it adds a poetry to the shot,
but it pulls me out of the scene because I
have so many technical questions, And then I think, could
we not have just panned over all the playground paraphernalia
and found you and been just as surprised about where
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you were?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Okay, to that end, how about Julian walking into his
empty soundstage that's pitch black. Okay, he opens the door,
you're gonna he's back lit for a moment, and then
we cut to him standing in the singular spot of light,
which is a spotlight, and he's standing in the middle
of it thinking.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Amazing, guys, I know what we're going for.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
But like, just for a second, imagine if we hadn't
cut and you had watched Julian walk over to the wall,
turn on a switch not the right one, turns on
the spotlight, and then walks over to the spotlight and then.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Stops to think in it, to stand in it. This
is my thinking light. Guys.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Oh, that's the kind of stuff that drives me crazy.
That would always drive me crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
You know what if we're gonna, if we're gonna say ours,
I'm gonna complete the trifacta. You know what drove me
absolutely crazy and gave me the uh huh was having
to call Richard Bergie daddy to run down the aisle
of the church and leap into his arms and go Daddy.
I was like, I, Oh, it's cute.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's so brook You don't know any Okay, I'm hanging
I'm hanging out with teenage girls right now, and they're
totally like if they love their dad, there's like daddy, Like,
come on, daddy, what's going on? I mean, it's a
dad most of the time, but on occasion like it's not.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Are you referring to did you cringe when you had
to do it? Or you're cringing watching now as an.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Adult a little bit of both, Like I I obviously
had to sell it to myself for Brooke, but I'm
like this girl who has all this like trauma, she's
been unpacking from her parents and this neglectful existence she
grew up in where she was parented by an amex
and not a human, Like it feels that lovey dovey
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about her dad. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I actually think I'm gonna fight for this because I
actually think it goes to making Brooks character so much
more real because a lot of girls who have so
many issues with their dad's being absent. It's too complicated
to express yourself emotionally and to actually share how you
really feel, so you just keep the mood light and
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happy all the time because the depth of pain is
way too deep and too hard. I absolutely think Brooke,
just from watching what I've watched the last nine seats
or eight seasons, I totally think that would have been
Brook's reaction, not maybe today as like who we are
at our age now, but she was twenty eight or
something at the time, right.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, It's just I guess the shift was interesting for
me because she's sitting there holding one of her kids,
talking to Victoria, who's so pissed he's been invited in
the first place, and says, you know, oh, you think
your dad's just going to change all of a sudden,
And she looks at her mom and goes, you did
you know, essentially arguing like, let's give him a shot.
Maybe now there's grandkids in the picture or whatever, and
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then it's like all gone. But what I remember is thinking, Okay,
if the shift is going to be that big, I'm
not just gonna run and call him this. I'm literally
going to leap into his arms like a child, like
if I'm going to do it, I wanted to be
so big that it kind of whiplashes Victoria.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
A little bit. It's good, but yeah, you can.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
It made me a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Wait did you okay, Well, let me ask you a
question though. Did you have to pass off one of
your children to someone before you ran down the aisle
or were you were your arms empty?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Was Victoria holding one and you were holding one? Joy?
I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I can't remember, because that does that would shift it
a little bit for me in terms of realism.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yes, I did pass off the baby because we stood up.
It was like, we can't wait anymore. It's time, and
I gave I gave a baby to you, I think,
or maybe to her. Either way, I remember I passed
off a baby. Sorry, guys at home, we watched this
episode a few days ago because we got our rearrange
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rearranged a bit, so it's not so fresh in my
mind right now. But I did. I did pass off
said baby. I didn't just drop it on the way
to daddy.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, so that's a little funny to take the effort
to pass off the baby to run down the aisle.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
But I did it before he came in is what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Oh oh oh, okay, yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Yes, I will say I I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So because I think pop culture has really has really
given the word daddy extra ick in the last handful
of years.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
But as a viewer, I completely bought it.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
And to me, I was just watching a girl who
like is reverting back to the age when she had a.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Relationship with her dad.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I didn't at any point go like ooh. I was like, oh, yeah,
I see, I see the little girl who's been that's
that's her.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
You know, I'm glad.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I'm glad it worked. Sometimes I think that's the solve
when there's something on a page that where you go
like oh, personally, this gives me a little bit of
the ick to go like, well, I'm just gonna double
commit and then the comedy will come from it.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Yeah, you never look worse than when you do the
half commit. Nothing. Every worst when you can tell someone
wasn't sure of the choice and they only commit halfway.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Will never look worse than you do. Then you got
to go folder go nothing.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
The only things that haunt me are the half commits.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I love this about doing this podcast, that we have
these little things in the back of our mind on
a shelf somewhere that we're always cringed a little at,
and then we get to actually unpack them here and yeah,
maybe it.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Turns out it's not so bad, and your friends get
to be like, no, I thought that was a really
good choice, and you go, oh, oh nice.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I have a question because I remember parts of season nine,
but I do not remember all of it by any means,
So I don't know if you all remember this, But
are we where are you at with the fact that
what used to be Karen's cafe, I forget what we're
calling it now, the door was left open, which was
very suspicious. And then at Haley and Nathan's house the
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door was open. My because I know a story. I mean,
everyone's seen the show. Because I know what's going to
happen with Nathan. Eventually my brain first went there. But
are we thinking?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Were both of those Dan?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Like what are your And if you know the storyline
then that's different, But like I don't, I don't genuinely
wondering what was happening with those or are they a
red herring?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
We do know that Dan was in the house when
there was someone jiggling the doorknob at Nathan and Haley's place.
Wait he was Am I wrong? I thought Dan was
already staying there. We established like he's there, Nathan comes home,
everything's fine, and then one of the last shots at
Nathan Haley's house is that door with the shadow of
some large person or tall person like jiggling the doorknob.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
I don't think that's right.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Am I out of order?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
If any of your producers, no, you feel free to
chime in here, because I feel like Dan doesn't get
to the house till the very end of the episode.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Yeah, because then Nathan comes home and finds him, Yes,
right in the nursery with Lydia.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But why can he'd be like jiggling the doorknob like
he's trying to get in if he was already invited
to come. I don't know. That doesn't line up to me.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Because I thought the jiggle happened before he sees Haley
at the church.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
No, no, no, it was definitely at the end of
the episode. There was definitely like within the last like
ten minutes of the episode. I will be shocked if
I'm wrong, But I just watched it. I'm pretty sure
I'm right.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
We have our experts looking into it now, so we
will have back checkers, please.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I think it is part of this whole like serbian
mafia thing that's coming.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Okay, Like I said, that's because I know he gets kidnapped.
I was like, is that is this the foreshadowing? LL
have to I guess I have to keep watching.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yeah, you will. You'll have to solve this mystery.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
As a viewer, Chase and Alex are super duper cute.
I will say, I'm very surprised because I, for some
reason my brain had told me that it was always
chasing Mia the entire time throughout the whole show. I
did not remember that correctly, because they're still going strong.
And also, I think, yet again, Janna gets the metal
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of valor or courage or just being a team player
for really having to just get all the wall objectified,
like the entire episode.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
You mean shoot a whole episode in her underwear's and.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Rolling around in a bed, not just like walking around
a house in her underwear, which would have been bad enough,
but like she's actually constantly being put in these positions.
Really it was Also, it's just lacks such imagination. I mean, fine,
if they're making out all day and I get the
storyline chases like I had a great sex life before
you showed up, blah blah blah, but like, there's a
lot of other ways to be making out with somebody.
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How about it against a wall or something like do
you have to be laying in bed writhing around for
the entire episode? It just was so it was objectifying.
It really bothered me.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
That said, the two of them have such great chemistry
that they managed to keep it interesting. But yeah, I
did find myself after like the third or fourth pop
of her in those tiny booty shorts and like a
shot directly up her bomb. Yeah, I was like, oh,
and then I remembered, you know who was behind the helmet.
I was like, yeah, that tracks, there's the signature tracks.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
But I will say I I do echo your sentiment.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
It's like it's it's it tracks and to your point, Joy,
it's like so unimaginative, But they're so fun to watch
together that they make it sparkle anyway, Like they there's
a they're both obviously such good looking humans, but Jana
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and Steven together bring out each other's goofy side, and
so there's this like goofy innocence in Chase and Alex.
That is, it's so unexpected and in an interesting way.
I almost think more unexpected because the writing is so typical,
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and so I've realized it's like, no matter what they're doing.
A they're both great sports and she is such a
team player. But I have so much fun watching them
that I can almost tune out the rest of the noise.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, we also have an update on the door jigglegate.
Dan was not in the house yet when the door
jiggle happens, it does it happens in the middle of
the episode.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, oh my gosh, Okay, my brain put that out
of order.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Well, actually, so that's really interesting because he says he
went looking for you and was told he saw Jamie,
and Jamie told him you were at the church with me.
So then I wonder if the idea is something's up,
something happened at the cafe, something's happening at the house,
and then rob exactly to your theory, the audience is
(30:58):
being led to believe, Oh, it's Dan looking for her.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Okay, so maybe yeah, weirdesting. I do want to go
back to to Chase and Alex though, because it was
really nice to hear Jana's music on the show and
such a great device for bringing Chris Chris Keller back
into the frame. Sean Genes, I.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Gotta say, you know when.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Like someone introduces you to like a new food you
haven't tried and it's so good and you're like, how
how what was my life before this?
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Like?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Did I not even know this existed? Because I only
know season seven, eight nine. I've never experienced Chris Keller.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Wait, is this your first time seeing him on?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
This is my first?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
All I knew about Chris is Tyler played him and
he talked to the person. So Tyler a video of
me watching this last night, and I was.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Like, buddy, you are incredible in this role.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Oh, he's so good.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
He is such a likable lothario. He's the worst and
the best at the exact same time. Yes, she is
so fun to watch Chris Keller.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
It is hard to pull that off too, to be
so smarty and so loved.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
And it's so great because him just coming back with
such a bang, being the absolute worst and so unimaginative
Harry Johnson case in point, but how well it plays
and then having him be the one who solves a
problem for Alex.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, it's like Haley's hated him for so long, Alex
is meeting him and hating him in this moment. He's
the worst, but he does add something and it is good.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
He sure does. Now Chase hates him as well. By
the way.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
That was my favorite line of the episode is after
Chase is yelling at Chris Keller because now he is
his girlfriend is like not paying ten you know they're
not having sex, and he ends it by saying, you
peacock looking dork yea, And man, if that isn't one
of my new favorite insults, that is so obscure and hilarious,
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it's so great.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Wait.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Also, does Chase live at Red Bedroom because his bedroom
looked exactly like the Red Bedroom set and there were
no rugs. It was just like this linoleum waxed linoleum floor.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
We double the Red Bedroom set for his bedroom.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yeah, I think I think he might live in the
loft at the back of Trick, which is also at
the back of the recording studio.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Never knew that was there.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Interesting, but it's so great and and Jana's song is
so good yeah, yeah, And there is something that is
kind of fun about getting to see how a mix
works as a viewer. You know, we know I ever
really got to see a lot of music get produced.
We've seen so much music be performed, and we know
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there's this recording studio, but to see the layers go
into a song that is so great and then to
be so irritated that it's Chris who did it, and
he's like, yeah, well I just recorded this part and
recorded this part, recorded this part, past it in your vocals, like,
h he's the worst and he's the best.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It's so great. I love that too, And.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
You have to tolerate him because he's good.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
He's shown his value. So it's like far we need him,
but he is the worst thing to need.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
And clearly we really need him because at some point
he's about to buddy up with Dan Scott to get
involved in whatever Snannigan's is happening.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Did anyone else think or see the fact that he
is an absolute dead ringer for Hayden Christensen?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Oh yeah, Oh wow, I didn't spot that.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Now, Oh buddy, go back and look at this episode
and they we used to talk about that complete doppelgangers.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Oh that's wild.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I loved the Quinn and Clay stuff because it was
really fun to I mean, who hasn't had that night
where you're just up all night and your partner's next
to you and you're like, I can't sleep. What else
am I going to do? I mean, we're spilling popcorn
on you? And so it was really funny and you
know it. But I also it was nice to see that,
you like, all the things that are leading up to
(35:36):
what's coming down the pike for Clay and his storyline. Yeah,
it's just it was an interesting place to start knowing
or to flash backward to knowing where we were going
that there was going to be some massive blow up,
to start from a place where it's just pure coziness
and sweetness.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yeah, to watch your characters just really care about each other,
you know, and to your point, Joy, it's not dissimilar
to what's happening with Brooke and Julian. There's not really
a lot going on. There's a device, we have the babies,
you have the sleepwalking, but you're seeing these people just
be together and navigate something and what would probably feel
(36:20):
like a breath of fresh air, doesn't You kind of
can't settle into it because you know from the teaser
that all these crazy things are coming. Yeah, and so
it gives you like a sense of unease in a
scenario that should make you feel comforted.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
The irony that we've talked so often about our show
not taking time with storylines, but they rush through everything,
and now when they don't have twenty two episodes, there's
only thirteen. Now they're figuring out how to take their time.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Totally slowing down.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
What the heck, Trob, what were you going to say
about Quinn and Clay?
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yes? I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I mean, listen, if this is me in real life
and I'm like genuinely wandering away from my home, the
first thing I'm doing is going to the doctor.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
But I appreciated. I think Clay's doing two things. He
is one trying to not alarm his partner, so he's
trying to downplay because he sees Quinn is worried. I
also feel like, and it's a stereotype.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
For a reason, he is doing the total guy thing
of just not going to the doctor when you should
obviously go.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
To the doctor.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, that is such a trope because it's so true,
like everyone has like the dad or the uncle and
they're like, I don't work itself out, and you're like,
it's a broken arm, dummy, go to the doctor.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
You're bleeding all over.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
And then the other part of that when it gets resolved,
like after it happens again or whatever, and he can
see that, Quinn's like really bothered and he goes, all right,
we're gonna go to the doctor. And she goes today
and he goes day and I laughed, going like, yeah, right,
maybe fifteen years ago you could get a see.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Who is your GP that you can call and be
like can I pop in in two hours?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
And they're like, come on in, totally Nope. You know
what it makes me think of Rob have you because
I say this just because I'm such a fan of his.
Maybe you've seen it joy, But Mike Berbiglia is infamously
a sleepwalker, like severely. He walked through a plate glass
window once. If I'm remembering, who's the story from his
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He's like one of my favorite comedians ever. He's genius
and he talks a lot about this and in his
new special he's sort of getting into the next stage
of discoveries about his sleepwalking, and it's like, to your point,
it's it's so serious, like the idea that you would
sleepwalk not just in your home, but actually leave your home.
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It's like it is like a level ten. Yeah, alarm
bells going off, crisis problem. And I love that. Clay's like,
it's not a big deal. I'll be fine. Just must
be having a funky dream, honey.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, dude, if you're if you have the capacity to
get dressed and navigate streets, that means you also have
the capacity to walk into traffic, to throw your wallet
in a random trash can, like.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
To break into someone's house.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
You know, you.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Literally just had the best case scenario of your nightmare
situation and you're like, not gonna take it seriously like that,
that to me is crazy.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Yeah, it is, Well, that's that's one of those things.
Though you had to commit to the bit. You had
no choice. It's not like you could go to the
writers and be like, guys, this is ridiculous. They're like, yeah,
we know, but it's your storyline for the season, so
good luck.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
And truthfully, I didn't think, like I actually don't think
it is super outlantic because I also think there's a
world in which Clay is also concerned. But sometimes people
are more concerned about finding out what the real issue is. Yeah,
then they are about just dealing with the symptoms. Yeah,
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And I think you can make an easy argument that
that could be what Clays up.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
To right there.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yeah, Like he's too scared to go to the.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Doctor because what is happening to him is abnormal and
he can't explain it, and he's and it's out of control.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Like, I think it's very easy to go. That's a
guy who's just terrified.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
He's like he's ducking it in the sense that he's
he's presenting very calm, but under the water, he's just like,
what the hell is happening?
Speaker 3 (40:31):
M I think that makes a lot of sense, considering
everything Clay's been through recently, just to finally be in
a place of like low drama, everything's cool and like,
oh no, my my Psyche is playing tricks on me.
I've got lots of under the current things happening. That's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
And I think we had, like so far, what we've
seen of Clay, he's not really a guy who has
shown much interest in really like taking a peek under
the hood and like what really going on inside Clay,
you know, like he wasn't really dealing with the Sarah stuff.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
He was running from it.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
We haven't really seen a lot of processing around nearly dying. Yeah,
you know, if there's anything wrong with that, but it
would it would track if this same person then was
like and now I have a new thing. No, I'm
going to just bury my head in the sand and
hope it just passes.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Yeah, it's like you're disassociating a little bit. Yeah, and
not that we've seen it, but I think the intensity
of what will this be when you consider the context
of you know, twenty eleven, twenty twelve, like if you'd
plugged these symptoms into WebMD, it would one hundred percent
have said brain tumor, so like, of course you don't
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want to go to the.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
Doctor, and on that.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
I love it when she stays up all night and
then of course she's exhausted and you know, she's asleep
in the doctor's office in Clay says like, oh, I
have what she's having. And then the next that they
do such a fun job of Julian getting the bad
news about the stages, him walking out of the church
on the phone call, and then quickly in the foreground,
clays car pulls up unsing outside of Sleep and then.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Just keeps going. Yeah, so good.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
It was just like a fun little wink for the audience.
You know, by the way, this is for you guys.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
Enjoy.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
I love it when they showed, show, don't tell. It's
so nice when they stop explaining and just show things.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
One of my favorite things I've ever seen on a
show was I want to see Maybe in the second
season of Easy, which was on Netflix, and it's so good,
and there's an episode because it's an anthology series, but
it all happens in Chicago, and there's an episode where
the group of people you're following in that episode are
(42:46):
standing in line for coffee, and the people in line
behind them are the couple you'd seen in the episode before.
And it was such a simple little nod. And they
were probably finishing one episode in the coffee shop and
then starting the knack or whatever, you know, location based shooting,
and they threw them in there and it's like you
just understand, Oh, they all live in the same neighborhood.
(43:08):
It's tiny things like that that put together a geography
and a life and you guys driving by because we're
all downtown makes perfect sense.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Yeah, it's that connective tissue that sort of builds your world,
you know.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Yeah, I love it and it was funny.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Last exciting thing about the episode is the possibility of
Brooks new line with Victoria starting over, starting this whole
company all over again. That it's like, yeah, we could
start all over. Mom, is that what she said? Like, oh,
and you shot at you holding the baby while you
said that to her went, oh, man, look how far
we've come. Little baker Man.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
I think that's a terrific name for a clothing label.
That's one of my names I do too. Yeah, it's
just because Ted Baker's already out there, so I've seen
baker a lot, but no, but baker Man's also it's
a bit of as a reference to the Patty Cake song.
But I was like, this is why Brooke is successful,
because that's a genius name.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Yeah, amen's especially little kids, because let's be honest, there
is nothing in the world than little kid close.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Come on, baby clothes are the best best, they really are.
And I remember thinking when I read this script, I
still I was like, fuck, that's a good idea, and
I was so mad it wasn't mine.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
And I still knew that way.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Because I was like, well, I could never do it
because it's you know, from our show.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Wah, going back to the church.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
I thought the scene with uh Dan and Hailey was
great because you're right, Joy, I thought the same as
you were. Granted, I've only seen a couple seasons of
this show, but I have never seen Dan present that
vulnerable and sincere, so it made sense that she was
willing to entertain it.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Yes, because the sincerity was surprising, But there was also
something that just the shape of the building gave to
the scene. That long aisle and you having to walk
down toward him.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
It almost gave the.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Hallway shot from the shining, you know, like you just
didn't know what she was going to walk into, and
then the ceiling height in the two shot where you're
facing each other. It made it feel so tense.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
Yeah, very very Hitchcock for to go.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
Yeah, it was a neat thing.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
One of the benefits of having a good actor like
Paul that in, who's played this character for so long.
He knows the history, he knows that just a regular
cell is not going to work on Hailey, and so
that was all Paul like knowing that he can't just
come back. He's not going to insult the intelligence of
the character of Haley's character by coming in and just
(45:55):
giving her the same old spiel. Like he knew it
was going to have to be absolutely heartbreaking and plausible
that he's changed in a real way. I'm so grateful
he did that and that he understood that, because it
really made it work. I think for me, it was.
Speaker 5 (46:13):
Also smart to have there be foot leather between the
two of you, because that was all time for the
audience to go, oh crap, what is this about to be?
Speaker 1 (46:22):
You know, because of this shared history of you two,
and because of who Dan Scott is. I liked that
there was a moment for me to kind of spin
out about, oh crap, it's about to happen.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
Yeah, because I caught myself catch my breath, Like in
that walk, I inhaled and I realized as I was
watching you too, I was holding my breath and I thought, Oh, okay,
like this this is a good build up to a scene.
And to your point, him being so fragile and so
(46:54):
willing to bring so much emotion and be still and
look scared. We've just not seen that in Dan and
it it's the only way, after everything we know about him,
for you to give him one more shot.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's the only way. There's nothing else.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
I just want to time check us because I know
you have to go to the I do.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
I'm sorry, guys, I got to bounce out. But I
loved this episode. This was a really exciting way to
kick everything off. And I can't wait to see what
is what's coming around the corner.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Here we go, by joy, you have a good doctor's appointment, honey.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Thanks, see you guys later.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
And I loved the the reveal for Nathan of Dan
Scott was Dan Scott in his home, more specifically Dan
Scott in the nursery holding his baby.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Like, yeah, that is such a true pass. That is
so in your face aggressive, Like I it's such a
great way to end the episode and as a starting
point for the two of them, because oh, that's such
a no no.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
And the repeat of the quote from the intro, hell
is empty and all the devils are here. Yeah, and
it's him and the I mean, it's it's like a
worst nightmare scenario. And similarly to seeing Dan differently in
(48:35):
the church. There's a look on Nathan's face unlike anything
we've ever seen before, and it it just really the
whole episode has been leading to this. You guys have
no idea what you're in store for, and it's who unnerving.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
And I like it so ominous And the fact that
both times the line the are here it is Dan
Scott on so it's hard as a viewer to not
feel like we are being told that he is still,
in fact dark Dan Scott.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, I mean because we've all how many times have
we also seen him do? It is like redemption and
I've changed.
Speaker 5 (49:14):
So yeah, super effective, great episode. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Let's do a listener question. Okay, Hi, my name is Lucia.
I'm fifteen and I'm a huge fan of One Tree Hill.
Which set or sets from the show did you like
the most and which set are sets did you dislike
the most? And why were there any sets that were
more challenging to work on than others? I will say,
(49:39):
does does it stay Karen's Cafe and season nine or
have you all renamed it?
Speaker 5 (49:43):
It's still Karen's Cafe. Yeah, I really liked working with
you guys.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
On.
Speaker 5 (49:48):
I liked it. I like any scenes I had in.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Karen's Cafe because that generally meant that I was also
going to be interacting with people I don't normally get
to interact with, So like I got to see you,
I got to see Joe, and it did start to
feel like.
Speaker 5 (50:02):
That place has a very cheers vibe to it.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
I was just gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
And so for me personally, I love that set because
it usually meant there's gonna be a lot of people
in the room. It's going to be some people I
don't get to work with, So that was one of
my favorites.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Yeah, I always loved that set. It was always one
of my favorites to work on all through the seasons,
whether it was the cafe or the show, or the
cafe or the store or becoming the cafe again. And
I think, what set it up for me so well,
And this is a perfect question to have in this
episode is the hi everyone by everyone that Haley and
(50:35):
Brooke get in this episode. It communicates without anyone having
to say, this is our cheers. This is the place
where everybody knows your name. This is the place where
everybody gets to come on the wall. It says, this
is the place and there's something really special about it,
and I have so many great memories there of some
(51:00):
of the scenes that were the most fun to shoot,
that I thought were the funniest on the show, some
of the things that were the most emotional. I mean,
you know, brooking Julian's whole journey and brooking Victoria together
and the stuff that's coming in this season. Like it
it's just the place where I think all the best
things have happened. I know I feel that way, and
(51:22):
I think to your point, so many of the characters do,
like when you see yourself in a Karen's Cafes and
you know you're gonna have a good time, or that
you know someone's going to have this huge emotional breakthrough,
and I love that.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
And as far as least favorite, I don't have a
least favorite set off hand, but I can say a
least favorite location anything I had to do in the rain,
because the water they pump in for rain is like
iceberg melt. It's never it's the coldest thing. It takes
your breath away, so it's always not fun to do.
And the river that we shot where I tackle Kellerman
(51:56):
into the water and Austin and James get in there,
because not only was it cold, but as I mentioned before,
it had a dangerously high.
Speaker 5 (52:03):
Fecal contaminant level. So no one wants to be in that.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
Nope, nobody wants to be on a poop cruise.
Speaker 5 (52:11):
Nope. You know I'm good on a poop cruise.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
Hey, yeah, I'm I'm gonna echo your sentiment. Rain towers
the worst, especially because for whatever reason, when we would
have to shoot those, it was usually February and it
was like thirty four degrees out, so just warm enough
that it wouldn't freeze, but you felt like you were
being frozen in a block of ice. Yeah, And then
(52:36):
I would say the things that I always found the
hardest were when we had to go out, like to
our beach houses, when we'd have to go down to
Topsail or out to Carolina Beach, and instead of you know,
thirty twenty to forty minutes to get to work, you
were looking at an hour and change each way. When
you're on set for sixteen hours and then your days
(52:58):
like eighteen and a half as of travel, it would
just make me want to cry. So not really.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
About the set, just about like when will we ever.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
Get home and lay down? Yeah, it was hard for me.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
Agreed, Shall we spin a wheel?
Speaker 4 (53:13):
I think we should spend a wheel. I wonder what
it's going to be. I think this is.
Speaker 5 (53:24):
Us likely to cry during a rom com. I mean
you're a layup for that, right Yeah?
Speaker 4 (53:32):
Yeah, I feel like you would too, though. I feel
like you might be a secret rom com cryer.
Speaker 5 (53:37):
No, no, I gotta like up. You know the Pixar
movie Up. Oh, No, like cried at that opening, Yeah, devastation.
But rom coms not as much. Do I think you
know it is because it's I don't cry very often.
I think I have to be a bit emotionally ambushed.
Oh and Up. I was like, oh, I'm seeing a cartoon.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
And then it was the most heartbreaking love story in
the opening, and I was like, I wasn't prepared for
this another one.
Speaker 5 (54:05):
Everything everywhere, all at work.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Sobbed. Yes.
Speaker 5 (54:08):
At the ending when I realized it was actually just
about a mother and a daughter trying to connect, wept.
Speaker 4 (54:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
So, and I think a rom com, I know what
the emotional manipulation ahead is.
Speaker 5 (54:18):
Wh I'm prepared for it. I think when I get
blindsided is where interesting? I'm open.
Speaker 4 (54:25):
Interesting. I like that.
Speaker 5 (54:27):
So rom coms get you though, Oh.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
Yeah, I'm just yeah, I'm a crier. I also cry
a lot watching documentaries full sob often.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
I like it, though, I think that's a soup. As
someone who's the opposite end of the extreme. I would
rather be closer to where you're at. I think it
would be healthier if I if I cried more. But
you know, that's something for me to take to therapy.
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (54:51):
I was going to say, do you know just many,
just many years of therapy, my dear, Yeah, I had.
Maybe I have to actually send you photos of this.
The coolest experience this week. We took the family down
to Florida so the kids could see the grandparents for
Ocean's birthday. And the sea turtles were laying eggs and
(55:12):
we went out. The beaches are all marked, you know,
where you can and can't go, and there was like
a spot where we could walk and watch. And when
I tell you, one of these massive turtles came up
out of the water eight feet from me and I
stood there for forty minutes and just watched her walk
(55:32):
up to her spot. I fell to the ground and wept.
I just wept on my knees. I was like, I
can't explain how unbelievable it is to see this, like
we live on a planet where this happens. And I sobbed, and.
Speaker 5 (55:51):
Ash literally looked at me.
Speaker 4 (55:52):
She goes, this is like your space movie.
Speaker 5 (55:55):
I was like, it is, but that's a special thing.
I will say.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
We used to vacation in Florida, so I've seen I've
seen that as well, and it's.
Speaker 5 (56:06):
Because like they're also they're endangered, so it's rare. They're
so vulnerable. I imagin that's what I'm saying, Like I
get the emotional poll and the like.
Speaker 4 (56:15):
Science peeps were out on their little like scooter things
with the red lights checking on everything and making sure
everything was cool, and I was just like, this is
so look at there's people out here on one in
the morning, on like no light ATVs to save the jurnles.
I just I couldn't stop crying. It was I'm unhinged,
but here we are.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Well, speaking of unhinged, Join us next week season nine,
episode two, The Room where You Sleep.
Speaker 4 (56:41):
That sounds very creepy.
Speaker 5 (56:43):
See you next weekend.
Speaker 3 (56:45):
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Speaker 4 (56:47):
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