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August 12, 2024 16 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dream Sequence is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Blumhouse Television,
and Realm.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm sorry, I'm such a bummer. Don't apologize. Life's hard
and it's healthy to talk about it. People just think
about their day and pretend everything's okay. So then you
start wondering if maybe you're the only ones struggling and
bumbling your way through life. But no one gets buried
without scars. You know, I'm really glad you're here. Okay, same,

(00:38):
are you anna optimist or a pessimist?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Like?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Do you think life's pain and grief with good shit
in between? Or is life good shit with pain and
grief in between?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I think we'd all be happier dad, for.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
The most part, Is that really what you think? Yeah?
It is. What's with the knife? It's for your throat?
Oh seriously, it's not a joke. Here, take it for what, Josie,
take the knife, put the bleed to your throat. Saw

(01:10):
back and forth until you say, for the artery? Why
is that so hard? Okay, you're scaring me. I'll do
it for you.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Then wait, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I just want you to be happy. Well that was something, huh,
I thought you'd want to hear it. I know it's
just a dream, but I'm still kind of offended. I
thought we were becoming friends.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
I think you've become a symbol for her skepticism and
fear of our treatment.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
But I'm the only one here who is involved in
her treatment.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
That's true. But of course dreams aren't always logical that way.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
When you're analyzing a dream, are you operating from some
kind of cheat sheet, like, Oh, a window open, but
it let in a flood of swamp water. Windows mean
opportunity in swamp water means you're screwed.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
That was the prevailing wisdom once, yes, but now it
seems we know even less than we thought we did.
How so, and worried anything I say today will be
disproven in the future.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
In the future, someone will see further by standing on
your shoulders, you're the giant. Very kind way to put it,
that kind honest, Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
At their core, dreams tend to be very primal. I'm
afraid of that, I want to have sex with her.
I'm jealous of him. The mind then constructs lose narratives
around these basic emotions. Some are more literal, some are
more avant garde. Let me show you an example, what

(02:55):
are you doing?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Why do you want me to die? Please? Please?

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Please? Yeah, if you boil it down. My working hypothesis
is that to cure a parasomnia, you need to observe
the primal emotion and its fear catalyst, and then reconcile them.
I haven't been successful yet, but I'm hoping Josie will

(03:38):
be the first.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
How would this reconciliation work in Josie's case?

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Well, if I only listen to her dreams, i'd say
she has a fear of fire. But in our sessions,
what is your relationship with her?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
We went out a few times, didn't work out. What
kind of question is that?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
I apologize for the phrasing? Sometimes my sweetest doesn't translate well?
I ask, because from your dream journal, fire appears to
be a recurring element. Are there any unpleasant memories you
have centered around fire?

Speaker 3 (04:15):
No?

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Are you not being fully truthful Josie? She has denied it.
I'm not sure why?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
What?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
When I talked to her, she didn't say she'd fear fire,
but she did tell me she used to live in
Wakeham Tower. What are you looking at me like that?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
You know how? Sometimes there's a word and you think
you know what it means, then you experience something and
you're like, Oh, that's what that word means. That's what
it was like when I heard the static?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
What was the lord this time? Despair? How long did
you listened to the static while you were trying to
fix the mayor not eighteen hours? What do you think
the static was?

Speaker 5 (05:31):
I think it's more or less exactly what you said,
subliminal messaging to make you afraid.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Does that make sense coming from a person's dream?

Speaker 5 (05:41):
I think there are ways to make it make sense.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Are you talking about manifold?

Speaker 5 (05:47):
What's manifold?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
That's what Josie calls the dark figure that ruined her
life and that you've been finding in everyone's dreams.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Huh, manifold?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
That works? What exactly is your theory?

Speaker 5 (06:01):
I don't have a theory.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
I know you have a theory.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Well, I take the word theory very seriously. What I
have is a hypothesis.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Oh my god, you are so annoying. Just tell me
what you're thinking.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Our subjects are all very different people, color, creed, age, gender,
and they're from all over the country. They've all dreamt
of manifold, but don't a lot.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Of people dream about shadowy creatures. I mean, it's not unique,
is it.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
If you heard my voice in seven different audio tracks,
wouldn't you assume that I was present for each recording.
You can recognize my voice and assume it's me. I mean, yes,
the Manifold growl is present in all seven subjects dreams.
When you overlay the sound waves, they're a perfect match.
It's not just a similar creature, it's the same creature.

(06:54):
That's the premise.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay, I'm with you so far.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Working from that, you might say, maybe they saw the
same movie as children and it imprinted on their brains.
That's not it. The subject's age ranges from eighteen to eighty.
Maybe Manifold was subconsciously planted in their heads by some
creepy art on the Sleep Center's walls that they all saw. Now,
that's not it either. They've been dreaming about this figure
for years, some even decades. You can go back and

(07:21):
listen to Craig Ingram and Eliza Mason, Helen Pizzetti. They
all said the same thing. And when you've eliminated the impossible,
whatever remains is the truth. There's something, in some sense
alive in our dreams.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
A sleep demon. Demons aren't real sleep ghost. It's an organism, okay,
but not like an organism. Organism, Well, think about it.
There are organisms that survive in hydrothermal events on the
ocean floor. There are organisms that survive in subduction zones
in two hundred and twenty degree heat. There are organisms

(07:58):
that survive in the vacuum of one hundred years ago,
scientists would have said that was impossible, and those are
just carbon based life forms from our planet. All I'm
saying is that organisms thrive in the most extreme and
unlikely environments, So why not the human mind? So what

(08:18):
does that make the static.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
A defense mechanism against interlopers in its natural habitat you
sound insane? Imagine explaining the autom bomb to a caveman.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Did you just compare me to a caveman?

Speaker 6 (08:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yes, hey, diego, is now a good time?

Speaker 7 (08:40):
You have two minutes? Really, they'll make a thing of it,
or this is over.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Sorry, you took me by.

Speaker 7 (08:45):
Surprise one hundred seconds.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Okay, how'd you end up here?

Speaker 7 (08:51):
I was eighteen and my nephew was having nighttiares, So
I researched and found this place. I found a link
on one of the pages that led to a bunch
of nonsense. I thought it was a bug at first,
but it was a test.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Now I'm here, I can see why she likes you.
You are her people.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
How would you define her people?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Goal oriented tunnel vision? Is that all a lack of empathy?
An emotional voyd.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
I don't care to get to know you better. I
don't care for you to get to know me better.
I've participated because I understand their sacrifices you have to
make in this life to keep the peace.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
You're going to find this annoying, but I find that sweet.
Thanks for keeping the peace with me.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
I didn't do it for you, for my sister, then
it's for neither of you.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Oh my god, you have a crush on Morgan. I
do not, and you just confided that in me.

Speaker 7 (09:39):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
I know you think I'm dumb, but there's only five
people who work here, and if it's not for me
or Sadie, it can only be the doc or Morgan.

Speaker 7 (09:48):
I had rock bottom expectations for how this would go,
and it's so much worse than.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I thought it would be, and it's so much better
than I thought it would be. Secrets make friends. So
we're kind of friends.

Speaker 7 (09:57):
Now, No, we're not. I've answered your question and now
this is over.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Thank you for your time. Buddy, we're not buddies, you sure,
because I only keep secrets for my buddies.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
We'll work on it, as you can see behind me
right now, wakem.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Power is in claims.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
The fire started approximately three hours ago at six thirty am.
About half of the six hundred tenants have been accounted
for thus far. It's a horrific scene. You can feel
the heat even where I'm standing forty feet away. The
firefighters are doing their best to control the blaze. The
surrounding buildings have been evacuated. A firefighter just ran out

(10:40):
of the building with a young girl her conditioners on here.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Joy shit deposit, that's her. That has to be her
cut on the cheek matches her scar. She didn't miss
a fire by a day. She was in the fucking building.
I mean she lied to both of us.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Why I don't think she was lying?

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Not exactly. Man, this is heavy. I wonder everyone's so
stressed out all the time. What happens next?

Speaker 4 (11:12):
She has to face the fire? What do you mean
she has to watch the YouTube video?

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Is this a gimmick?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Is what a gimmick?

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Your frozen chicken nugget and fries meal that you have
almost every night? Is it beneficial to your brand or
something to eat like a five year old?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Is your drinking a gimmick? I think it's cool to
walk around with a coffee mug full of Scotch.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
If you maintain the right level of inebriation, it improves
cognitive function. It's called the Balmer peak. It's proven signs,
just like how eating nuggets and fries every day will
kill you before you're fifty. You know what. I'm sorry
I brought it up. I care about you, that's all.

(12:21):
But I apologize all good. Andrews tells me you helped
to make a breakthrough with Josie, and that's generous and
you're very valuable here. I'm proud of you.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
I have a confession to make. Really, when I called
you a few weeks ago, it wasn't a sleep dial.
I know I was drunk, listening Tonightmares.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Humble down the Balmer peak, huh.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
I didn't have the courage to contact you sober even
when you called me out, and I couldn't admit the
truth that it was a decision. Since you've been here,
I've been happier, and I wanted you to know that.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
You were unfucking believable. You know that what I mean.
When we were growing up, it was like you were
this once in a generation genius and I was just
your dumb sister. But I loved you so much and
I've missed you so much. And since i've been here,

(13:27):
we'll have these moments where I forget why I haven't
talked to you in seven years, and it's just like
it used to be. And then and then I remember
what you did.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
You abandoned me, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
What.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Instead of grieving with me, you threatened me and cut
me out of your life. You didn't die, but I
still lost everyone that night.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
You're mad at me. You drugged and killed our parents,
You fucking psycho bitch.

Speaker 7 (14:02):
Are you too all right?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
It wasn't us. Came from Josie's room. Josie, are you okay?
I know what Manifold is.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
You're listening to dream Sequence written and created by Andrew
Martin Robinson, directed by Dave Beasley and John Brooks. Executive
producers are Molly Barton, John Brooks, Dave Beasley, and Marcy
Wiseman for realm Alex Williams, Matt Frederick and Trevor Young
for iHeart Podcasts, Chris Dicky and Noah Feinberg for Blumhouse Television,

(15:10):
starring Jesse Case and Alice Kremelberg, with performances by Shalini,
Bethina Einer, Gunn, Nick Osborne, Winifred, Anne Concannon, Tara Brown,
Emily Barry, Linnelle Scott, Shannon McClung, Dave Huber, Hugo Armstrong, Cooper, Tomilson,
Joel Haberley, Simaj Miller, Dean Simone, and Brian Finney. Additional

(15:35):
voices by Patrick Higney, Fred Greenhalge, John Brooks, Christina Teleska,
and Kaylan West. Casting by Sunday Bowling, Kennedy CSA and
Meg Mormon CSA. Producers for realm are Fred Greenholge, Marcus Thorne,
Bagala and Rhoda Bayessa. Associate producer Michael Colter, Production manager

(15:55):
Devin Shepherd, Production coordinator Angela Yee. Dialogue editing by Corey Barton,
Sound designed by Rory O'sha and Dan Powell. Final mixed
by Kaylan West. Original score composed by Marcus Thorne. Begala
Songs for Josie by Kaylan West, recorded at Real Voice
Los Angeles and Citybox, New York City. This podcast was

(16:16):
recorded under a SAG after collective bargaining agreement. Dream Sequence
is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Blumhouse Television, and Realm.
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