Episode 328 w/ Issa Rae

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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So why you gotta whack watch? I got security and
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saying one mill of day, ain't talking fact that when
I'm talking one mill of day, could probably double it
by leaving out the country before. Keep my ass home.
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(02:57):
I have so much fun doing research on this next
guest and googling listen next guest because um, like many
of her dumb fans, what like her dumb fans, I'm
saying that, I'm like, I'm saying I'm a dumbfan. I
thought it started from Insecure. Then I went back, and

(03:21):
then I went back and I discovered I am Arthur,
and I discovered and Thenet and I discovered um um
um was it Black Awkward girl Akward black Coirl? And
I was like, wait a minute. She's been monkey for
and stomping through this game for a long time, like
the gum under the table. She's been here. She's a curator, producer.

(03:51):
She got watching two new episodes last night late night
because y'all was lying about the streaming. I was late
on the streaming. Y'all truly black people. Because I was
up to twelve o'clock in the afternoon talking about y'all
said streaming at the one y'all started streaming when your
party started last night. That's unfair to me as a fan.

(04:15):
Let's keep going. So, I mean, it's so much dope
to see the transition from and and her being hush.
And also not only that, she gave one of the
greatest acceptance speeches of all time when she said, y'all
help me, so what I got to send my notes.

(04:37):
In case you don't know who the hell I'm talking about,
we're talking about the person who's dominating, y'all dominate Larry.
We got a strong black woman, black queen taking over.
And in case you don't know who we're talking about,
we're talking about the one, the only, the Impeccable's you know,

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I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest with you. I love
when we ordered to drink orders. Right, whenever we get
somebody here, we say, um, you know what, do what
do they want to drink? Because we provide them to drink.
So when they said prosecco, oh yeah, I was like,
I was a little disappointed. I'm gonna tell you why
because I'm gonna tell you what. I'm gonna tell you

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why because you do drink prosecco with with the recap
to the insecure drink prosecco. But then I started to
think I was like for a rich person at this point,
buying prission, buying Aroseco is like hiring a fake drake.
It's like you got access to the real drink. You

(05:46):
don't even call the real straight but you're just sco.
So listen. That's when I came up that pain feels stuffy.
I still mess with your champagne, super heavy, my prosecco
and voc person actually in my podcasts, but I appreciate that. Yeah, okay,
oh no no no no no no, you're You're a

(06:07):
bad motherfucker. Thank you. And this is a case straight
to a rap shit. Yes, what's what's your home girl name?
From Loving hip Hop? You've got a chi a star.
Listen to me. I can't lie to you. When the
selection came out that those two was it, I said,
esus high in Miami, bugging out, what in Miami? She's

(06:29):
in my street? Because I felt like he was like
the pandemic. He was like, let me just take over
Miami because I could do that. I saw you a
little hated everywhere. I was like, holy ship, you are
really a visionary. Like I didn't see this so good.
I was like by the way, I believed her immediately,
like and I was just like, wow, I'm actually doing

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loving hip hop. Well I think I think she's on
this season. I haven't had no scenes well hard nothing,
But what I'm trying to say is like, how the
fund did you see somebody and say this is a star,
this is an actor. I can actually use this person
she is. She came in the audition, she was like
I am Mia, and Mia is me and you know, people,
I haven't really seen anybody claim it like that claim

(07:12):
a character and so you know, she said it with
the accent, and I kind of was like, Okay, let's
see what she has. And she just she was her.
She didn't lie like she she sometimes feels like she's
not acting, and she is acting for sure, this is
in her life. But she's just so natural. And you know,
they both are. They're both incredible actresses. They're all first
timers for the most part, and they like her in particular, like,

(07:36):
you know, she's really lived this particular journey of the show,
because how I looked at it, like, I'm like, one
girl's very like I don't want to say aprocentric, but
you know kind of like on the like I'm not
keeping out my box and the other one is like
I'm throwing it everywhere, like like like what is that
like Lauren Hill mixed with yeah, you know, we took

(07:59):
influence from No Name, from Tierra Whack from you know. Yeah,
Missy is her hero on the show, and she's like,
you know, she's influenced by the Laurens of the Flash.
She's about this, she's lyrical MEI the rapsdy vibes exactly.
So like even with this show, we took elements of
like so many female rappers right now to make to

(08:21):
tell this story when I wanted it to feel like
the now. No, no, no, not only does it feel
like that, now you got like them going on live.
Yeah like that. I feel like you can't discover artists
if you don't have social media, if you're not like that,
that's the best way to discover artists. That's how you

(08:42):
know their personalities. Like I felt like I know these
artists better than anything, and I know that I know
they're personalities more than I know their music, and it
makes me feel like an ownership over them because I've
seen I've seen the rise, I've seen the ascension, and
I'm like, oh, I saw you when you were Cardi
making videos before Lemon Hip Hop. I saw you when
you make the Stallion, you know, doing freestyles and and

(09:06):
working at the gas station. And I felt like, in somewhat, yes,
I love that sound. I'm gonna give your glass of
champagne anywhere like Oda. Other people know that we can't
jerk up. We can't jerk that. It's just we have
we have a part of myself. You know where the

(09:27):
pocket you wan't get you? I know where the buck
I'm talking about right, it's right there. Okay, yeah, yeah,
what what you want to do? Okay, thank you, I'm ready.
So you finished this? Um, But think I was just
saying that social media is so important right now, Like

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He's like, I can't imagine discovering an artist without social media.
But that style of filming, it felt like you were
pointed with it and insecure where you think, and then
you took it to another level. We've definitely took it
to a different level. And so in Insecure we did
some like social exactly that. Yeah, we toyed with it, um.
And then for this I was like, I just want

(10:09):
to have I wanna approach the storytelling it in a
different way, and I want to approach it. And sometimes,
you know, there are people that we all know. I
don't know if you all are active on socials, but
there are some people that you don't. You don't see,
thank you so much. You don't see often and you
keep up with them. All you see is like they're socials.
So you know they had a kid. Cool, Oh they're
they're out at the club. Okay, they're having dinner. But

(10:31):
you get these superficial um ideas of what they're Dude
was messing with the chicken those parts, and then you
just you draw your own conclusions exactly. And so I
wanted to just be our way into these characters via that,
and then as the episodes progress, like you're gonna get
to know them as they get to know each other
again because everything happens on social media. Like a friend

(10:53):
of mine, um, the other day, Uh, we went to
see each other, and um, I had nothing to talk
to him about because Everything that he did in life
was on his on Instagram. He was like, I went
to the school too. He was like, I went to
the two. He's like I went to the zoo. I
was like, I know you fed to the draft. He
was like, I went to this as. I was like, yeah,
you changed the baby panther like, I was like, it
will be nothing in his life wasn't on social media,

(11:14):
like how you took that glass, Like like I like,
I like how you drink playing drink chat that. Now
I'm gonna be honest with you. Following Insecure, I was
insecure at first because I knewiced to a chick show.
I knewiced to a chick show. And then Insecure, you
felt like it was a chick show. You don't know

(11:35):
that in the beginning, but I got so into it. It
It didn't feel like that after a while, until until
until Lawrence Lawrence, until you cheated on Lawrence, and then
everyone was she cheated him. I know she. I like
that he's a He's a way, but it's not East
a Way. But it's easy way, but it's not East
a Way. Y'all both found each other out in that show. Yeah,

(11:58):
wait a minute, it's true. You watch the show both
each other's dirty? No no, yeah, yeah, what Lawrence to
give your gift for something? He didn't give you a
gift for something? He was deputy at first to her,
and yeah, he just just like listen, I think he
was depressed. I think I think both the men were
at fault and both of them did some immature things.

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But yeah, a lot of men took the cheating extremely personally.
But it's so many stories, man, black on Twitter? Do
I have you know, I mean, all my information for
black Twitter? That'th day on black Peter, Like it's an

(12:41):
how long the black regular Twitter and then black Twitter
and I go there and boy was we having the
morning day that day. He was like, man, it's some bullshit.
That's some bullshit, Like, dude, they come on, man, Lawrence
is a good guy. I love that so many men
saw themselves in him and they felt so but aid like,
how like the nerve of this girl cheating on him?

(13:05):
A good man he is, but he had his issues. Really,
I just ain't see it. Both were fault man, both
so he was a perfect man to you, like from
jump you want me to have me ever in your life?
Cheated before? Yeah, but theyn't go Donna do with Lawrence
Lawrence Gonta do don't, don't don't. Lawrence was there for you, girl.

(13:28):
He just was going through a little financial ship. He
wasn't there. He was like a shell of himself. You know.
They both weren't their best sells at the time, and
it was crazy and that was the point of the show,
that the growth of the characters. Right. Do you see
how attached people is to the show though, Like they
can't to appreciate. Like, like back in the days, I
had a stone called what what used to hate? People

(13:50):
come up to me, what what? What the fun is
you thinking? It's eight o'clock in the morning meeting the bagel?
What what I imagine they come up to you like yo,
like and thinking real character? Then yeah, my real character
for a minute, Like dudes were really like the insults
got crazy. And my co star I remember, I'll never forget.

(14:11):
I woke up one morning and like, you know, lodged
into yeah, my co Starvin she before I knew. I
woke up one morning and my phone like I want
on my mentions and it was just cheer chet. That's big,
she hoped cheater. I was like, what but my co

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star went on the breakfast Club vine and at the
very end of the interview, she was like, uh, well, y'all,
if y'all think she could like hit her up, tell
her And so she said everybody and people did, and
I was like one for her too. This is kind
of amazing. This is but I saw like people thought

(14:53):
that she was like a real person telling me, telling
everybody about her home girl. She didn't, so they got
I was like, why are you going in on me?
So all right, this is not real. I didn't do this.
How much of you was in that character? Though? A lot? Yeah,
I mean a lot, but things you know, I was.
I had learned so much more about myself and was
more confident in myself by the time that show came out.

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But like, there were so many parts of me that
were in that in that character. There ever a time
where like, um, like, you're right in the show because
I think I was hearing you say this, where you
almost watched this season in real time, like you could
dropped a couple of episodes you could see the reaction
to the people. Is that Does that affect your writing?
Oh no, because by that time people thought that yo,

(15:39):
the craziest thing that pissed me off was we, uh,
in season three, Lawrence wasn't in half of it right,
and we had planned to have him pop up in
the middle of the season. Felt like he was out
of the show. And it worked out because he went
on a show radio show that's been show the Men

(16:01):
that you are killed him that part by the way,
because he want Martinez and Jay said, yeah, I haven't filmed.
I don't know what they're doing. So that fueled the
rumors that like, we weren't bringing him back, and people
thought I was hating. All these rumors happened and literally
he was about to shoot in a couple of weeks
with us UM, so people thought that he was out

(16:22):
the show. And so then when he did pop up
in the middle of the season three, people were like, oh,
they saw all the complaints and they changed it and
they put him back in the show. And it's like, no,
we shoot right then it's crazy and people think you're late.
So no, I don't get to like and I wouldn't
want to write to audience feedback, but when I was
doing for a Black Girl, my web series, like that

(16:45):
helps you know the audience because they would be like, like,
I take constructive criticism. So they'd be like, your lighting
is bad, Like I really want to get in the show,
but the lighting, And I'd be like, can I get
some help on lighting or you know, and then there
were saying certain constructive things and don't just make me
pay more attention, but um for a show. If that's
impossible to do, what made you to start going online?

(17:08):
What made you just? Man, I was trying to break
in by uh doing scripts, you know traditionally, so you
always like the way to break into Hollywood before as
a writer was to write a spec script, which means,
like you write a show, like if you like The Office,
you'd write a sample script of the Office, and then
you try to find an Asian and get with that.

(17:29):
But that's exactly that a demo. And that was hard.
You know, you had to have connections to even get
somebody to look at it. And when I had ideas
from movies and I have these opportunities, and I'd have
these meetings and like the general consensus was, like the
work I had black characters and everything that I did
in the consensus at the time was there's no audience

(17:52):
for this, or you have to make it more multicultural me,
which means, you know, make it white. And it just
got frustrating. And at the same time, like I was
always on the internet. I've been on the internet since
I was like, you're still internet, you still have the
YouTube channel, I still we still do all of that.
But I was like just obsessed with talking to strangers
online when I was younger, and then I just it
just was a natural to build a community. And so

(18:15):
like with my Facebook came out Twitter all that, I
was just constantly building community and just making content online
to make myself laugh, to make my friends laugh, and
then I just took it seriously. Wow, wait, hold on
how much of hip hop was an influence and everything
you've done, because it felt felt sure that was a
big part of it, incredibly, Like I love I mean

(18:37):
I love obviously like rap music, I love R and B.
I just love our music. Like just seeing you to
shirt you would wear on insecure, like things like there's
a little detail like that, there's a hip hop head
right here. Yeah, I mean it's essential to the music,
Like hip hop is storytelling and so like are you
picking the music? I'm thinking a lot of because the

(18:58):
music that on Insecure and even seeing the new series,
it's it's incredible, like shout out and the record label,
thank you what happened. But I had to shout out
our music supervisor on Insecure here like I was very
specific in terms of what I wanted to show the
sound like he was in rap Ship as well. Rap
Ship we do on the radio side, but here on

(19:19):
Insecure was just great about how amice fine new artists
to like put in the show, And you know, I
had my own list, but he was so great about
Discovery too, So I discovered so many other people to
put on because of him. But heavily curate the shows.
You know, one of the most underrated UM characters and Insecure,

(19:41):
who I feel like, I know Blood Homie, that the
Blood Home Bees. I just have to be like, like
what is he saying? And I had to from his partner.
He was like, I'm getting breakfast. Everything is to me.
It was like it was it's crazy because actually really
real people like that. That's Blood Country and that's my

(20:04):
friend from high school Tristan. Actually some people don't recognize.
Like in my web series Awkward Black Girl, he played
like the baby voice whisper dude and it. We used
to be in plays together in high school and he
would just steal the show. And so then you know,
thug Yoda his own character. He's always everybody's favorite character
and whatever. I didn't know talented basically like anything, the

(20:28):
most talented, one of the most talented actors that I know.
So when HBO first call, what was that like? Because
did you did you you feel a pilot for Insecure?
So yeah, so how do how does And if let's

(20:50):
just be clear, Netflix is on the rise at the time,
but HBO is still the biggest company in the world
this time. This had to be like an honor them calling?
What is it? What do they say? They want to
work with you? Fine? And what is that conversation? Yeah,
it was basically like, we want to take a meeting
with you. And at the time I had two meetings
with him. One two meetings with them. One was with

(21:11):
the now president of HBO and he wasn't exact at
the time, and it was it's what they call a
general meeting where they're just like, oh, the industry is
talking about you exactly, so let's just see what you're
working on. And I was nervous and I meet it
I didn't really understand what the general was, but it
was just getting to know them and getting to know him.
And then I went on my way. And then I
got an opportunity to work with Shanna Rymes at ABC

(21:34):
to shoot a pilot or to write a pilot, and
then that ultimately didn't go and I was devastated. You know,
Shanna Rymes is a big deal to black writers, to
people in general, and I felt like I failed and
I missed my one chance to like make a show.
And then after that, like literally after I got to
know that it wasn't gonna go through, I got, you know,

(21:55):
a call from my managers at HBO reached out and
they were like, you know, what do you have? Do
you have anything for us? And that's when I was like,
I'll get something ready for you guys, basically what they've
seen on YouTube, based on what they saw on YouTube.
And at that time, I think, No, I didn't have
a book out. You're telling me they called, you didn't
even have insecure. No, I didn't have anything. I didn't

(22:17):
have anything. And even what I ended up picking has
evolved so much since then, you know, so it wasn't
insecure when you first pick it was called nonprofit. When
I first picked nonprofit with it was gonna be more
centered in that world. Um and then Molly was more
of a side character who I would like, you know,

(22:37):
go to visit from time to time and learn about.
But it wasn't as central. And then you know, during
the development process it became insecure. But I just had
I whipped up something for for that meeting, and that's
what they bought in the room, and then they just
changed over time. Were you already successful on YouTube because
you hear a YouTube content creators are killing it? No,

(22:59):
because that's a crazy People call me a YouTube star.
But when I think about YouTube stars, they have millions
of yous. They're making six figures just off their content.
And you know, we had accumulation of a million of views.
But I was not a YouTuber. I wasn't a blogger.
I started on the internet, but it wasn't it wasn't
paying my bills. But I had a loyal fan base though,

(23:20):
an extremely loyal fan base and viewers who were supportive,
who would like give money to our kickstarters, to Patreon
and all that. But but that has to be something
positive to say that HBO would take the meeting with you,
because it wasn't just based off of like the numbers
at Yeah, it was based off the content you were creating.
And that's kind of how HBO rocks because it's not
like they have listen, I'm not mad at it, like

(23:44):
your numbers, that's all I care about. Yeah, and then
you have a deal. You have a deal. Yeah. I
think HBO operates like that in general, because even some
of the most prestigious shows, they're not like millions the
hell of you, but they like take the time normally.
You remember the days with networks if you had a
million viewers, two million viewers, you get canceled and they

(24:06):
get they're really patient with their audiences, and you know,
I think that that's that's helpful because would you would
you labeled like the first season Insecure? Was it success
or was it success to you? Was it successed to them? Like?
How did you move forward? It was a success to
all of us, Yeah, and it wasn't like a ratings

(24:26):
juggernaut or a ratings success. But in terms of the response,
the critical response, that's about the cultural success. Like when
that season finale hit, that was life changing to me
because I was just like this is this is crazy.
I'm logging online and I'm seeing people talking about these
characters and I'm not even like searching for the show.
I didn't log onto Black Twitter. I was just like,

(24:47):
I was like, oh ship, the people are just talking
about the show and I'm not promoting or anything, and
there are and this is crazy. This is what you
hope for people to get invested in your characters like this.
That's That's how I knew the show was ahead when

(25:09):
I've seen people arguing with it as if it was
real life. Like I was looking, I was like, wait
a minute, do they really know that this is a
show like they were going you got Some of us
would tell me like, you know, I fought with my girl,
you know, even for like weeks after that, or I
broke up over this, and I was like, this is crazy,

(25:30):
but keep it coming, baby, to keep more. Tell me
do you know I said it earlier? But um, do
you feel like I don't? I don't because Larry David
made a lot of money. Yes, do you feel like
the Black Girl version of Larry David? I wish because

(25:51):
Larry David had Seinfeld, so he had hell of money
off and that tournament to sig felt, that's different money
because they got syndication. But how did it become different money?
How does sifle become that revered? Is what I want
to know. I do, but I just it's like there's
a lot of great shows. Yeah, but I mean like
those network shows that were hit show about nothing. It

(26:12):
was nothing, and they like change the way that, like
sitcoms work, like everybody he's not invited people, Oh my god,
I'm sorry. We haven't drunk. That's your older friends. You

(26:33):
can't invite your older friends some time we come because
he was on his own. Oh but you know it's
the crazy thing, you know, finished the trade of thoughts
about well, I mean, like it's just it's just network TV.

(26:54):
They could like then they can sell it to like
a TBS and syndication money and all that, and we
don't have that anymore. That's a whole other thing. So
like the money is different there, but stuff might change
so you get Netflix money too. I've seen love Birds too,
Thank you. That was funny drawing. Yeah, I'm getting a
little a little, a little, a little changed a little.

(27:15):
Don't be modest. We're gonna b we know what change up, baby,
because I remember when they said, HBO forty million, No
it's not forty go a little bit up north, and
then Charlotte Magnet spreading the three hundred. I'm just just

(27:35):
keeping his room going. It's not it's not keeping it's
not it's whatever it is. We are fucking proud of you,
and keep keep thinking, thank you so much. Let me
ask you you really are although you you take place
in social media? Uh you you you you're a dogs

(28:00):
You're not. You're not fooled by that ship like she
doesn't impress you like you're not like for instance, like
everyone heard you got married, like you kind of kept
that ship on the log like I know you had
a lustrious ship, you know, I know you wanted to
post like dogs flying out from like doves flying out
from you know what I mean? Like where you those from?

(28:20):
From the preacher's head like we know. But what you did,
that's like, that's that's crazy. And your man has to
be secured. I see what you did there. Yes, I
would say that I agree with you. You have to

(28:41):
be very secure. He's very wherever he had I spread
the word I'm famous at one point, at one point
when my wife wasn't posting me my part right there
at one point, and I was like, wait a minute,
you know, I'm in r E like you better showing
me off. And so I'm just saying I even got
like that, and I'm a person that's famous. So what

(29:03):
was that? That was a dedicated listen, let's go. Let's
see Gemini. You're kind of crazy, have you have you
like cut somebody off really quickly in your life, like yeah,

(29:24):
it's done, it's done. It's y're like, whoa, We'll trying
to make it work. But once it's done, y'all are calls.
But you know, respect, No, but what that gotta be
a strong man. He's a very strong man. Yes, I
was respect him. I said him. It was in Paris,

(29:45):
right he was in that there was I passed. It
was in con France, Paris, big Brother Parish is cultured spade.

(30:08):
I killed that. I killed that. I hope he wanted
to screening the movie and then got married. I was
like no, not at know it was doing was up
because someone, uh, someone asked me to do something and
not today that. I was like, you know what, maybe
I can book a show off all the time. So

(30:33):
another thing that was calling around about how much you
do for people that you don't bring up. You bring
up so many people. Was like, yo, you have no
idea how much he said, does that comes and go
look out for people. So want to ask her for
a favor. She would remember it and come back and
go get these people and do it. You gotta be true,

(30:54):
look at your face, your ship just because it makes
me uncomfortable, like you know, because it's just yeah, getting
your flowers make it uncomfortable, not getting my flowers. I
appreciate all that, but it's it's like, you know, I
think what isn't considered those people show up and do
the work, like you can't you can't give someone a
chance or you can't give a recommendation if those people

(31:15):
don't deliver. So yeah, I appreciate that, like credit and
stuff like that, but yeah, I mean, and it was
this just several people. This wasn't just one person. Like
I don't want to reveal my name, so I want
to still get information from them. So so well, yeah,
I thought that that was amazing because you know, um,

(31:35):
I can feel your energy, I can feel like who
you are. I'm a virgo. We connect whatzing wet geminized.
We got, we got good. I'm a capricorint that's January

(31:57):
and December late. Okay, yeah, oh you're perfectionist. No, what's
your meticulous like? That's why you're I'm a little judgment specific.
That's very specifecific doesn't make sense sometimes, but he's very specific, interrupting, No, no, no,

(32:21):
I deserve it. I deserve it. So baby, do you
want someone the champagne? Because okay, alright, cool? And we
got we got, we got flowers because our show is
about giving people flowers. Let me just tell you something.
What you're doing is remarkable. What you're doing is dope
for any any race in the nationality, any color, creed,

(32:43):
but for it to be your story and where it came.
Because me and you're from the sat hood of Synagogue.
I don't know if you know that what I ain't
from synagogue. Get your flowers because you want? Yes, this

(33:04):
is fired. Thank you all so much. I know I
love this is incredible. You could take candidate. That's the TV.
I can't do that. You see the Tyson bites? Yeah,
those ears. He's not care for Rose. Who y'all see

(33:28):
the Rose Mike Tyson Hulu series that ship looks fired.
Oh no, it's a doctor series. It's a it's the
scripted series which Trevante Rose, who was in Moonlight. He's
playing Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson has never been finer. It's

(33:49):
let me ask you going back to Wrap Ship real quick, Um,
why did you you only drop two episodes? So Wrap
you said the thing about the time. So I love
one of the things I loved about Insecure, and what
I love about just even linear weekly shows in general,
it's like everybody wants to Sundays and you have something

(34:11):
to talk about and it's a communal experience. And that's
what I miss about TV is just you know, a
streaming that just dropped it at midnight and everybody watches
it at different times, and it feels like there's no
like so much of the exciting part about pop culture
is being able to talk about it with your friends,
talk about it with your coworkers and all that. And
so with rap Ship, I wanted to drop. We wanted
to drop the first two episodes because I think you

(34:32):
can get more of a complete picture but at a
specific time at six pm Pacific, nine pm Eastern, and
that that way every week you're going to have something
to at least look forward to, and people who want
to watch it at that time you can watch it
at the same time and talk about it. You know.
It's one of the whole just the first two and
then it's weekly after the week. I ain't gonna lie. Um.

(34:53):
I love bitch watching, but when I'm into the show,
I kind of want to wait till that Sunday. Get
my popcorn, get my crab legs, you know, get you know,
you be prepared and watched the show before that, because
it's always like a lame show before it. I don't
know why. And whenever it's a dope show, it's always
like it's always like a show about pottery and ship
like you know what I'm saying. Like, But but then
you get involved with that because you're like, I watched

(35:14):
it last they do to sit yourself, and then it
goes So I'm into that. I'm into that. I always
felt like because I think probably television at one point
gave up only in New York and went straight to
s Yeah. Yeah, And I hate that because it's well

(35:34):
I love Benging and stuff too, but I want to
power over that to say what you want how I
asked for it, as they've never HBO has never done
this before with their streaming shows, strictly HBO Max Max.
So that's why it's not airing on regulars, only on
the app. So that was the only opportunity we got
and shout out to HBO Max. They're like, okay, well
we'll give it a shot. And but like I love

(35:57):
like with beinging shows that gets it pisses me off
because I want to talk about it with my friends
and they're not. They're not watching watching it yet. Watching friends,
you talk, we can't talk about it. And then when
they watch it, I'm like, I'm onto the next one.
I don't I don't care what you have to say anymore,
you know. So it's like to be able to provide
that experience hopefully. Um yeah, we'll see what happened in
season one done like films and everything's done. Everything's done,

(36:22):
So all of it's gonna because I feel like you
would film at a rolling loud right now for it.
That's that's interesting. We might have I mean, like you know,
that would have been would take us not thinking enough.
But we haven't gotten our official season two yet, so
we have to we have to write this season too,
so we'll we'll be if we write season two and

(36:44):
we get the green light, we'll be. We're disposable if
you need us. I don't know. It's on camera that
they drink thank you something holy ship. Don't you know
my cause when Christ with Nick Cannon, we oh, yeah,

(37:08):
we definitely did. We don't know where that movie went was.
It was Dracula movie. We supported support, we support our
coaching man, and it was fun. It was fun. Drink
Champs he was he was the character on Drink Champs. Yeah,
is that with that still? Then you'll just posted up

(37:28):
the way where he came on. Yeah, he came one
murder murder and he came as murdered death kill. Yeah.
You know what's so funny about that? I swear to god,
I don't know if I told you. Puff Daddy says.
He calls me and sends me a clip with this ship.
Calls me sis, like, yo, who is this guy? And
how the fun did he make it to the show?

(37:51):
Put it out? Is this murdered death kill character? And
we even fooled off and he's just like he was
really cool people. The attitude he was like yo, bo
I thought we got certain people that we who is
this guy? We have a criteria. I called everybody from Hollom.
No one knows that. I was like, I was like, puff,
you need it too much into this ship. But it
was it was it was Nick Cannon and character. That's

(38:13):
the sign of a good movie acting ship. So yeah,
y'all parties, Oh yes, famous, are you gonna come to
one store all white? That should be? I can't do
all I'll be feeling like a Santaia ship going on

(38:35):
voodoo and somebody come with a duck cut up their neck.
And I've watching documentary's lately. I've been scaring the ship,
I can tell you. So I've been hearing about these
YA parties. What happens in these your parties. It's just fine,

(39:00):
it's not crazy, it's just fun. It's just like, you know,
a chance to let loose. I tweeted one day where
like I was like, you want to yeah, I just
want to do your ship with my friends basically, and
I was like, exactly exactly. And then I realized like, oh,
I can do this. And then through a party one
year and then it just became like a little tradition

(39:22):
for me. We just didn't want in Miami around like
a b ff. And it was just fun. It's just
an opportunity to like be yourself. It's not a stuffy
for Hollywood party. Is just have a good time, drink,
dance and act up. Wow. And this is this is
after Drake um Kenny your party and about you. Oh

(39:43):
no you you came late. No, that was that was
like going no, no, he just passed by. He said
magical words and said no. But that was that was it.
There was no holloway Shane. I was in the presence
of friends leaving an HBO party going to a Netflix party.

(40:05):
Just make for you for you getting that money money, Jared,
I'm sorry, I gotta go to my other check. What
determines the class? That's what I want to know. You
can start, you start, you can start. You can start
your own class cloud gang, you can start your own
clas check. So, so, what what is your relationship to

(40:28):
I am oh Man. Shout out to for Real, who
also had a great interview year. He's um he like
discovered the Aukwa black girl him and his It wasn't
you wouldn't be on no the second season. Watch the
first season of aucware black Girl and just gave it
some much love and was like, uh, like, I'm doing

(40:51):
a venture. It was a top secret venture at the time,
and he was like, yeah, if I do this, I
would love to to bring this on. And I was like,
that's amazing because we don't have any money to do
a second season, so if you can make that happen.
And so he took uper black Girl under his um
mother umbrella and we just got our entire second season
funded and you know, he was just super. He was

(41:13):
promoting and shut out of it, and it's just changed.
And that's when you know, like other other bigger outlets
got wind of it, and it just gave us press
on a different platform. And so shot up to him.
He's just he's always ahead of the curve and everything
that he does. And um so it felt like an
honor that he had seen us and ye him, he

(41:36):
helped you trying to say it's because of his he
that did he confirmed his first real hit. That's that's
that's fire. I mean, I don't want to brag about it.
You know, who's counting. Where Where did it come from?

(42:00):
Where did it come from? Yeah? Like did you just
hear in the beat or did you meet him first? No,
I met him. Uh this was this was the time
of baggy clothes and this this is when I knew
like he was the chosen one though, because we had
on four X and he had on extra medium and
it was like it was mad And I was like,

(42:20):
he's different because I see his veins coming out, like
you know what I'm saying, small change, a little to
go on. But he said to me, he said to me,
if you listen to me, we'll go number one. So
I flew to Miami and he told me not to
listen to the to the to the third beat. So
I listen to the third beat. It came on. Listen

(42:41):
to it in Miami mad old school year CD. So
it was I remember. The only difference was he came on.
It was like super thugs, like you met a mamoril Noriega.
He's in the Philippines. And that was the first time
I've ever seen someone do a beat that was for me.
And then under it it was going, it was going yeah,

(43:03):
yeah yeah, So I said, you can I change that
to what as crazy as patting about was just singing
that crazy. It was crazy, his mind blowing I'm definitely
using that for something. I don't know. But but and
I came back the next day and I laid it

(43:23):
and and I counted the boss what what what what?
That's how I counted boss what what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?
Counted his bars? And I did that and then I
went I got a sandwich or something. I came back
and I was saying, for real, you gotta erase that.
That's that's not the hooks. They're gonna laugh at me.
I was just saying one word, and he's like, and
you're gonna laugh all the way to the pit. For

(43:45):
some reason, I believe this guy. I was just like,
holy sh it. I was like, I was like, fucking
I believe him. Man, West is history, so literally. That
was his first hit single. I believe he had other records,
but his first hit, his first time and his first time.
This time he appeared on the record. He appeared on
like he's singing because he's like rump shaker and all

(44:06):
that your first official Okay, let's listen how I see that? Yeah,
but you also got the key to Inglewood's spy. Now
it's like plastic, it's not a literal kid time I'm

(44:34):
dispot it's like Meantford. It's decorative, it's like you can
it's a conversation starter. So like like that up there,
Like if I had that, it's in my office right now.
We can give the key to dream chance to people
when they go, no, don't don't diminish, don't be giving
people keys. It's but I was really honored, you know,

(44:58):
because I'm not. People think I'm I'm from Inglewood, but
I just read angle with my grandparents are from there.
I'm from so yeah, where they built a freeway. Afterwards
they kicked them out. Where they keeped everybody up there
during the rights Damn, that's history. Yeah, so you went
from Senegal to Maryland. She wasn't in Santegal, bro I did?
I did? I went on, I was born in l A.

(45:21):
Lived there for a minute. I read something after Senegal
kind of like what I just said on me Like
I just said that it was born in l A, Senegal.
Five years in Maryland. Then back to l A. Maryland.
White schools. Maryland white schools, Yes, white schools, Like never

(45:43):
hear white everything I've never experienced. How is that? Um?
It was? You know, I was. It was one first
through fifth grade. So it was just like, Okay, I
just became aware that I'm a I'm a black person,
you know, being in Africa, everybody's black. Um. And then
go went to Maryland. It was just like, oh, they're
my hair is different than everybody. They're pointing it out.

(46:05):
But I wasn't like I'm oppressed. It was just like
I'm a child. When I went to Senegal, I was
probably like four or five six, You're in a different country. Yes,
this is a black country. Now you come back to America,
and it did it feel different? It definitely felt different, Um,
But I wasn't. I don't think I was smart enough

(46:27):
for conscious enough to understand what that difference. Man. Until
I was like, you know, I was, it was understood
that I was different. You know, I was different when
I came to Maryland, but I was just you know,
I adapted really quickly to everything. And it was except
coming back to l A. That was a culture shock
because you know, when you go into middle school, that's

(46:49):
when everybody's aware of each other. That's when everybody stops
being like nice. That's when we point out the differences.
And so that was like really really clear. What was
the difference they were pointing out about you though, that
I was just lame attributes that they that you felt
that were being pointed up. I spoke like a white girl,

(47:12):
you know, and I was just not. After your first
year in Maryland, you adapted to Maryland, right, yeah, But
by the time I came back to l A. I
was just you know, I wasn't conscious like I was.
I was a big R and B head, but I
wasn't a big hipop had at the time. And so
one of the things was, like Tupac had died, like

(47:34):
my first year back in l A and ninety six,
I was, I was in sixth grade and that was
within like the first couple of weeks of school because
it happened in September, right his death yet, and so
like I just didn't know who he was. My brothers
were super hipot was at the time. This morning and

(47:55):
I and not only do I not know who he is,
I pronounced his name. I tried to get in conversations
like to Pat died, Oh no, let's talk about it,
you know, And so thank just did not sunk with
me after that. Did you have white friends named Brittany
or I have black friends named Ashley. I didn't have.
I didn't have That's the thing in Maryland because those

(48:16):
like the white white friends. Right. I had a friend
named Lisa, but I have friends from like all different races.
I had a Japanese friend named Erica. You take me back.
I had a Peruvian friend named Jessica, a cousin friends.

(48:41):
I didn't have any keeping friends. I'm sorry, I don't
have any keeping friends. I don't want to keep it.
I don't have any party your friends in Maryland many
friends Colombians Colombians. No, damn, I'm just black friends. Now.

(49:02):
I didn't have no, say where your friends in Maryland
to sleep? But no? Then then after that, you know,
now I have mostly I don't know that I have many.
I have mostly black friends, right, And we appreciate the
way you cast because we know you of us. Thank you?

(49:27):
What does that mean? Thank you? I'm just taking it,
you know, I'm just saying, because you know, one of
the most awkward things in the world for me, right,
as a person who smokes weed, is to see somebody
who don't smoke weed smoke weed, and I'm like, oh,

(49:47):
this is not how we smoke. We enjoy you know
what I mean, Like like I wouldn't just smoke cigarette,
say somebody did. I'm like, motherfucker, if you love cigarettes,
you won't smoke no cigarette like that. I love that love.
I can look at that ship like like your characters
to me are authentic you whether they being authors still
acting just good. But to me, like like your your
audience and I'm not a part of it. We indulge into.

(50:10):
It's like like like I said, I believed her name.
I believed her like honestly, I doubted it. I doubted
that at first because I was just like, wait a minute,
like do you have experience to like follow as a
rat show? Like you know what I'm saying. I was
like yo, And then I was like, you must have
been on set coaching every single day. Okay, not coaching,

(50:31):
but every just some serving notes, but every single day absolutely,
because do you make a guest appearance on this one? No?
For me, it's all that on the scenes. But you
know it's my direct mine. I did not direct, No,
I just I produced it and lots of the credits
and you you you you yeah, not not on the
direction side. Directing. It's not for me right now? But

(50:54):
we had great directors. Shout out who directed our first two.
It's different directors. Yeah, directed our first two, and then
we have direct other directors throughout the show. J Ellis
who plays Lawrence, he directed our finale. So I'm really
one of the dudes from Insecure. In the first episode, yes,

(51:15):
he played Dr Sharon's um, and there are a couple
of cameos throughout, but I am not in it and
my homeboy from UM. A lot of people don't think
I knew this um from Vice Principles who the baby
father though he's from Vice from Vice PERivale. You never
seen Vice Percivals, No, but I just got into him.

(51:36):
Danny McBride through the new show. Do you watch that
one on HBO? The Religious want Righteous Gemstones? You racious?
They preach, you know he actually they preach and they
pop with you. Yeah. Oh yeah, a good show. It's

(52:00):
a scripted show. Yeah, you make me think he's a
documentary and girl the preacher this Danny mcbrine, and they're rich,
but they some corrupt motherfucker's and it makes you think
that they're trying to say, like how these preachers alms
like that? And they had like a congregation where one
guy got caught by a reporter and he goes and

(52:24):
tells him. He was like, yo, man, if he came
and got me, he's gonna get you all. And then
they're like, well, you on your own on this one,
and he starts telling him, you know what I know
about your ship? You don't know what you know? Basically,
you know what else? You put me on too? And
I didn't watch it yet, but I'm very curious. F
Boy Island. I heard you my ship and this season

(52:46):
two just came out commercial right before you. The happiest
moment for me was watching season two of Island and
seeing a preview for raption. I was like, look at that.
It's good. It's just good trash, you know, And I
think that that's essential. You have to have good quality trash. Yeah,
and that's what I watched, Like when I want to
turn my mind off, I watched every single dating show

(53:09):
known to man. So f Boy Island. The F stands
for like the p Valley is pussy Valley. Okay, it
wasn't ready buy you watch it? Watch val no foy
Island Island. If you watch the first season. I think

(53:30):
it's the ninth episode it has pissed so many men
off in the best way. I think it's worth watching
just for that ninth episode. I think it's the greatest
educational piece. It's not educational, sure, yeah, I think it's
a It's just really really like in your face and
it violates a bro code in a way that people,

(53:53):
the men get really mad watching it. It's really good. Okay,
were ready for cook time slot. Let's do it. But
the way we juicy this is juices and my wife
owns the juice balls is coconut You we are you
gonna explain the rules? Yeah? Oh, this is the game.
This is the game. You got you got your shot?

(54:14):
What's your preference of shot? I have this to write,
but I already did too much. What are you? What
are you talking about? I'm gonna do you have been
here for? Should be Japanese? Del y'all? Should I do?
Want you want to just sip your shot? We're going
to tell you two names or two things. You pick
one or the other, no shot, if you pick both

(54:37):
or neither. I have to take a shot, yes, but
we all take it with we all take only that's
a gentleman. Yes, Um, I'm gonna let you pick. Do
you want me to what are you drinking? Brown? You
want me to drink Japanese del y'all plays right now? Yeah,
we have to keep in line with what's going on.

(55:03):
We have Dominican mo Mohuna was like some of that.
I do not recommend that. Look you should try it,
just he's my friend. But someone makes that in the
bathtub and can do you don't want none of that.
He's not a kindle man. Listen, they make it babs
and I was making in the bathtub me. They make
it like it's toilet wine. Like I'm sorry, I like

(55:26):
these guys. I'm just saying, Mona, can't what is playing?
I'm just playing, you know. I like you. You could
do voodoo with it too, about see what I'm saying.
I don't with ghosts. Yeah, but it's a herbal look
so like absent type situation. Are you hallutening? Now? Come out?

(55:47):
You called on this ship? Don't make no sense. You're
already called on. He can't make no sense to this
if you will drink this. And I'm sticking to the
Japanese public now and it's okay, I'm gonna chill on.
I've been I've had some episodes. I don't know where

(56:09):
you're gonna go. I don't know where you're gonna go
with this one. Okay wait wait you said to it.
Yeah ready, yes, Laura, No Queen Latifa or MC light.
Uh love me some MC light with all my heart.
But Queen Latifa, you and living single, You and I

(56:33):
t y like her trajectory. She's a wrong colm queen
like she. They both look beautiful, they have aged beautifully.
But Queen Latifa is that bitch that I aspired to
on mini levels. So that's my bitch right there. No
disrespect you and I Yo, But did you realize that
I came up with this theory the other day? You

(56:54):
can totally shut me down. Queen Latifa invented afrobeats. No
man know Clee show it's gonna because look, she had
the accent on you and I as an accent. Tell
them that that's it's that the nurse don't fother not

(57:16):
because she was a couple point one, but she was like,
I was like, I'm gonna listen to that beats. No
beat beat fairy man. You got your opinion on your mind.
Sometimes you would beat sometimes you win. Ship you because
the record it's afrobeats. I listen, man, I'm taking with

(57:39):
my story. Man, story's terrible. Man. Sorry, sorry Lauren Hill
or Rhapsody, that's unfair to Rhapsody. I feel like Rhapsody
would say Lauren Hill and I love me. It was
crazy Lauren Hill. We technically only had one album, just
Lauren Hill defined me. She the foogie bro, what are

(58:00):
you're talking? That's not her? When you say laurens not her?
But what about just Lauren Hill? When when you when
you google Lauren Hill, they don't say the food I
mean just here when you google her, there is no
her discography. It says just that she only has one

(58:26):
from what I only has one? Tell me what, I'll
tell me what all the albums she has don't have?
You gotta have her length album was technically an album?
It was it was it was her performing the Miseducation.
It was like the entire like all falls down sample

(58:48):
not camera. I'm sorry to brost your bubble, but it's not.
It's not the reason why you picked up how many
albums you? Yes, it is, don't tak to the afrobeats man. Yeah,
I'm gonna go it just like you told me to
go back to breaking. Don't you were wrong then I did?

(59:13):
You don't believe? Okay, we're a good one. Dream Dog
or dog Ja Cat um shout out to dream Dog
just performed last wow Um. I think she's phenomenal, does
Ja Cat. However, it is my choice just because she's

(59:34):
very versatile. I have I'm partial to her starts on
the Internet and her viral fame that led her to
who she is now, So do Ja Cat and she's
just she's just wait, we didn't know that. What what
did you have to do? I'm saying, like her journey
like and then she blew up and she liked sustained

(59:55):
that ship. Yeah, that's hardy biggie or bigg out Um biggie.
You don't have displaying Set it Off all poetic justice, damn, damn.

(01:00:22):
You can take a shot. It's safe to say. No,
I'm committed. Like I said, I already have to pee.
I'm gonna go and set it off. Set it Off.
Set it Off is by simple math. Poetic Justice has

(01:00:44):
two queens. Set it Off has four queens. So I'm
going with that. And the soundtrack, I'm gonna say that
the Set it Off soundtrack has an age over a
poetic justice. I'm gonna probably regret that you've been on soundtrack.
You're doing rap and it's supposed to be fired. Okay, fire, okay,

(01:01:10):
not a chunch. You want to take a break now, Okay,
we finish, okay, Okay, maybe not. It depends on n
W or wol Tang clan w You want to think
about it a little bit. No, I can't. I respect
we're saying. But in way, like you know you started
blood walking on you said in your heart, I just

(01:01:31):
felt like if you see say I saw her to
that close stup on her toes krisp walking. It was
glorious right here? Yeah, how was it? It was? You know?
I mean, I don't think, come on, I can't do

(01:01:57):
a better luck. I do a better vision. Okay, little
baby or dub baby, little baby okay. Kendrick or Cole
Ken Jake, I'm always gonna be partial to my hometown.
I like Jake Cole a lot, but Kendrick is Compton.
Absolutely don't expect that even or Missy and we don't

(01:02:20):
drink yet because I'm very solid in my opinion like this,
we're gonna drink something Eve or Missy, Missy came first, right, so,
and she's a pioneer. People are still imitating her eves outstanding,
a lyrical genius, hell on her own. But I'm gonna
go with Missy Okay Tupac or d mx m hmm,

(01:02:48):
but DMX rest in peace, Rest in peace, don't go
a lot. She's definitely on some gangship nip nip who
are easy are easy? Mr? Say again, I'm still Nipsey
inspired me so so so much and actively and got
a chance to meet him and just funk with everything
that he's about. So Nipsey all day after you have

(01:03:10):
Pep for London, right you know what? Oh? Nor are
you messy? Popped up in the Google So I'm sorry.
You know we had a misunderstanding and that is that's
why That's what I'm talking about. Okay, Young m A

(01:03:32):
or Remy Ma Okay, Alicia Keys or Erica do Erica?
Why are they in the same category? Yeah, because I
feel like they both like incense, what kind? I just

(01:03:52):
feel like you're going either one of their crib They
got the best instance in the world. Okay, Um, it's
a good one. Kanye West or for Row. I like
their loyalty, entourage or Curb your enthusiasm. Curb your enthusiasm

(01:04:15):
podcast or radio Yeah, podcast DRE or Quick dr Dre
or DJ Quick Oh California, I might drink for that one.

(01:04:41):
What's your shot? You that is more girl? Come on cook.
This is the Japanese delis you know, and this is
the Dominican that you know well. I love My job
is one n drake awayne okay, yes, but shout out

(01:05:02):
and waiting for discovering Dre he wins. Anyway, movies or
series series series has so much better than movies. Right now,
y'all go to the movies, the actual movies. No, yeah,
I don't think. No, I've been in the movies since
the first time a long time. I want to go
that's phenomenal. Who the old talk Houn, No, no, no,

(01:05:24):
Wan heard that. That's what I want to go to.
It ain't supposed to be making Top Gun. That's too much.
But the sequel Who Killed It? Tom Hanks came back
to I mean to want to kill Tom Cruise to
Cruise getting back? What? Yeah he did? He did the
old movie produced Somebody You see them on the jack

(01:05:48):
They flying real mother plays in that they do he
stay like It's like a good actual. I mean, I
haven't seen it, but that's what everybody that brought me
back to the j Ellis is in it. Lawrence is
in it too. If you want to support people, it
makes you want to go America. Did not make me? Okay,
I'm gonna see Note too. I can't wait to see Nope,
did this shout out to Note Jordan Phials movie? I

(01:06:11):
want to see that. Yeah, I want to see that.
J Palmer the Scar, Yeah, yeah, yeah, get out? Yeah
you don't So you're serious? You watch more series in
the movie Listen. I'm not gonna lie to you. I
was a movie guy me too. I was the guy

(01:06:33):
that went to DVD palace. Did they called me like
the like two weeks before the movie came out. I
got the exclusive and I'm gonna go to Fort Street
get the DVD and like and I'll go home and
I will watch. I'm a movie buff, but recently I started.
I saw it. One more out of my shows, like
The White. I remember the White off season, remember the Yeah,

(01:06:58):
until I was like watching season two was the best season,
know the whole Wire? And then when you like finished
the season the series, you appreciate this season too, but
while I was watching the season till I was like
the phenomenon um future or Young Doug future, young Thug um.

(01:07:26):
I feel like any answer is toxic. I don't know
young Thug. My sister rocks and him super super hard
and she got me into him in a major way. Okay,
kids are fab he Jada kiss are fab um Fabulous

(01:07:49):
like I like, you know, kind of more grew up on.
My high school was dictated by fab more than Jada
kiss On, Jerry Yes, Jersey Starbacks all that like that
was that was my favorite era and the dudes that
I had crushes on with Jade the kiss So I
was more on fab Okay, I also put on FAB two.

(01:08:11):
I just wants you to know. Yeah, his first time
he ever freestyle was with me on Hot ninety seven.
DJ Clue asked me, when I love another artist come
up there that was the hottest guy in the world.
I could have said no, I said yes. From that
moment on, Fabulous has established for Okay, get the next

(01:08:35):
one either. First of all, y'all doubled up on that one, guys,
Empty Raps or Rap City, No, we did that. We
already doubled up, doubled up com Local rap City was
one on BT. Yeah, years different versions, Joe Claire. Yeah,

(01:08:56):
it was a basement. There was the other rap City
that was just wrapped in the Rap City of the basis.
By the way, the basement. Wait, so it was I
was ticket or was the basement? Baby? So what was
rep City? No? No, they're all REP City definitely, Okay.
I honestly didn't like any of them. Shot, yeah, because

(01:09:22):
I would always be like, oh, I'm not I respect that.
I'm sorry fer Chris Browner Usher, come on, who's cheating?
Was over here? Listen? They'd be a politically rector. No.

(01:09:45):
I mean I saw his interview here too, and I
love that he's like, you know the verses. Yeah, um,
that's hard. I know it's not hard. Sure, it's pioneer,
and I feel like he came first. He did come first,
So I'm gonna goes and you come out on roller

(01:10:06):
skates easily, then it's even more. I don't want to
skates backwards backwards on roller skates. He has, ye, I
don't know why, because your hands out a runners skate backwards.

(01:10:30):
I think that's like this. He was like that. He
like in New York one day I didn't like it.
I was like, I don't cast K. That's a hard
one outcasts, you know, because of also what Andre three

(01:10:50):
thousands just did for influencing entire culture of artists, of
black artists, black male artists, and three thousand made it
okay to be different in the best way. So I
have so much respect for you g K though, but
I think with outcasts that's WUV or TLC. Just it. Yeah,

(01:11:13):
I'm drinking, that's exactly I can't do it. Okay, we've
got two more diff you don't get back into any
but that's it, okay. Joe to see your jacket edge,
Joe to see easy Sorry we should did Joe to

(01:11:36):
see your a new edition. W Yeah, that's not don't
you see, Like I'll see Jackson five, Jackson five that
they made it. You're going first first? Yeah, okay, am

(01:11:57):
I the only one that's has just straight. Yeah, you
went straight and you the trainers And she was like
that a couple. Yeah, some people just go in though
some people want to just pick both both. Yeah. Um,
it's the last one. Everyone thinks a true question. To me,
it's not a true question. Loyalty or respect is a

(01:12:19):
true question. Yeah, sometimes okay, both okay to me, that's
as we okay you guys to get rap and break
ye so badly trading cards like n f T trading cards. Yeah, man,

(01:13:01):
yeah it's French or everybody. Yeah yeah, it like he like,
damn there slum dog billionaire because somehow this nigger knows everybody. Everybody.
But the way, we don't have that many females for us.
We've been on a female coming up already filmed, then

(01:13:27):
we got probably we have the motherfucker right, the best bet? Yes? Yes,
does Lisa Ray hate you? You know it's crazy. I

(01:13:47):
have gone most of my career with people being like
Lisa coming, No, I'm not a tod my homie. He's
a use, you know. I'm like what, I don't know,
I don't know you just said. I was like, it's wrong,
it's not no. And then I met her at like

(01:14:09):
I'm gonna say somethenything or it's this thing, and she
was just so nice. She was like girl, people confused
me for you. I was like, what girl? People are
always disappointed to see me because she was just She's
but I'm not gonna lie. Whenever I'm at an email,
I'm at a hotel or whatever, or like trying to
sign up for a fake site. I put Lisa Ray
at gmail dot com. So I hope that's not her email,

(01:14:31):
Lisa Ray Gmail. I just that's what I use. That's
my fake email. So I hope that she's not Lisa
Ray com because she's getting all my spam. Because IM saying, yeah,
we like Lisa Ray still around, I was like, no, like,

(01:14:53):
oh insecure still around guys, She's she's out here. Yea
god damn it got piece need. Yeah, what was the
moment when you felt like you made it? The moment
where I felt like I made it? Do you feel
you've made it yet? I think that made It's like

(01:15:17):
you're done? So I felt like, um, well joined the party.
For example, she she feels that there's a lot more
she's got to do, and I believe her because Patty
Pie came when she was like what sixties something, so
like what else she was talking about this a wine
coming out? Um, I feel like, yeah, I feel like

(01:15:38):
I have so much more to do. I like I've
only written one TV show now too. That's the errand
right now and all this, all that I have right
now has come from a web series and one TV show,
So I'm like, I haven't even I haven't done a
movie yet. I haven't like as far as me as
a creator, I haven't done so much, and so I

(01:15:59):
felt like there's there's just so much more for me
to do and do well, and even outside of the
entertainment industry. So I feel very much like, yeah, I
am kind of just getting started. And you swore off
not doing a movie for Insecure, and I was mad
until I've seen Sopranos movie, because sometimes if you take

(01:16:22):
too long. They stopped identify movie for Insecure. Yeah that
would be a dope movie though, but the movie was sex.
Wouldn't Insecure movie be good? And they had to sex
in the City movies And the second when they said
it wasn't great, I don't think I saw this second one.
I think I saw both. I gotta remembering impression on you,

(01:16:44):
and I don't want that. I don't want like, oh,
the show meant something much to me. The movie, you know,
I just wanted to go down and know that that
movie wasn't great. My song was in there, sir, I
don't want this. You didn't like the Austwards. I didn't
see it wasn't a good movie. It wasn't a good movie.

(01:17:05):
Was you a fan of Entourage? I watched it like
later after it was on on. I watched up until
the very last season. I never finished the show, but
I liked it. I like what I saw. It was
just like it was like a very dude show to me.
When we were like, oh, it's a chick flick for Insecure,
that's how I f I was like, Oh, this is
a dude show. This is very much made for dudes.
But I still funk with it. What's your favorite series

(01:17:27):
that you wish you would have produced that you got
something like, let suppose someone presented you something. I have
an elementary. I'm gonna say that right now, Quincy show.
I'm just like, Quinta, you haven't you haven't seen I
have an elementary bro okay U. It's on It's on
the ABC, but yes, the Arizon, Hulu. It's a network show.

(01:17:47):
Network comedy and network comedies haven't been this popping. Like
everything you watched is like on Three Men for the
most part, um and she broke out the mode. She's
funny as the entire cast. It has O g s
and new people and it's just funny, and it's just
such a simple premise in theory of just like a

(01:18:08):
mockumentary in a in an elementary school and it's just funny.
But can you explain to people what mocumentaries is because
I just like The Office, Modern Family. Yeah, it does
how white people. It's the style of filming. It's the
style of it's not a documentary. It's the style of filming. Now,
it's a style. It's there. They're actors, but they're acting

(01:18:31):
like they're not. It's almost like a reality show. It's
curby Enthusiasm documentary. Oh, that's like a question, no, because
they don't have confessionals. It's more shot in like a
coon in the office. There's no green screen. Yeah, it's
like it's literally like documentary style mockumentary, but the curve

(01:18:51):
is just shot like raw. Yeah. I love I love it.
When I found out like it's like improv, like like
almost improv that they have like bullet point, Yeah, bullet point. Yeah,
that's how I did. I'm not auditioning it for you,
but maybe I'm a text you know, come on, I
have she's gonna eventually see it. I have followers from

(01:19:12):
tagging you. I sent you a rail of my just
one scene, but that doesn't kind of a real I
thought she was gonna die the whole time. I thought
he was gonna shoot you the whole time because like
you were, you know that convincingly annoying. I was like,
he's about to pop. Do you know I freestyle that

(01:19:34):
whole ship? Listen. I landed, I'm on tour. I'm on tour,
I promise you. And first of if, I filled out
for alcohol, I auditioned at the Real Gangster to be
accessly to just Rico. I think cam camera played played it.

(01:19:54):
So I went there and you know, helped me do
my rehearsal. Was would Harris, who is incredible incredible yes
and not notice like way more talk about the wire.
But so at the time, I was super overraped overweight.
I was super overweight, so I knew they was gonna

(01:20:15):
give me the role. But I went and I killed
the audition and I knew what it was, so um,
I went and but they still wanted me a part
of the movie. So they said to me a please,
so that I was the lost weight. I was gonna
went on for the movie. And then they said, yo,

(01:20:36):
so we want you. So I was like their lines
and it was like, we don't. You don't have lines.
So I was like, oh, ship, So I'm just gonna
be here just waving my hand and I was like no, no, no,
we want you to come over with their lines. So
they thought I was that ill. But I sat there
and I was like, I got the line, but I
had nothing. So I was like, all right, cool and
at the time period piece. So you can't say I

(01:20:57):
can no slang. I can't slay modern day slang. So
I made you that. I'm not trying to I'm not
trying to big myself even I am. I am giving
myself my own flowers. Um, I did that in one take.
That's what they used. I did it again. But but
what no, no, no, what they used with listen, what

(01:21:21):
they used was my first take, but they did record
me for safety. Did they use something? They did not
use that safety. They used that first pick take, they
used the first What have you got since? Man, I've
been sucking up whatever you put it on. It's what
he's doing. And let me tell you my photography. Kevin

(01:21:42):
first movie with me before before first, I gave him
a gun in the movie. That was your that was
like your character's role was being like the way he
gave him the gun. It was fantastic. Iven infer with
Mom's how you pass. I was like you need this,

(01:22:04):
you know, and then and there was like cutt and
then for that one, and then I started one movie.
You haven't seen none of these co State Property too. Oh.
First of all, properties Stay Property and Stay Property too

(01:22:24):
are huge. And see a guy. When I tell you
my cousins my summers watching that, it was violent, Like
I don't really funk with violence, but because I get
like squeamish. But when I tell you my cousins gathered
around the living room to watch Stay Property one and
Stray Property, I just love your cousins. I just stowed

(01:22:44):
it out there. We gotta go over there. We gota
come about property too, because Rember, I was with you
and I was like, I can't watch this is too
violent from your local in there. Really yeah, I was
getting to it. That's a good name. Yes, So I'm
just throwing my ring having the ring for me. Yeah,
for with case any like you know, roll if you

(01:23:06):
show up for ruption like that, we've already we've already
signed the contracts of screen like right here, I'm I'm
but all right, so be could you make everybody audition? Right?
I don't like everybody audition, okay, because so like, because
I'm a legend, you know, you know right now, he

(01:23:30):
would never have to audition that, okay. But who's somebody
that you you you you you like had to audition
and they was offended. There was offended. It's a couple
of people I don't want to name, Like Danny Divido
came and he was like, you gotta that would be
has never put the profile the baby character. He should.
He should be phenomena. I just haven't had a place

(01:23:53):
for him. And he would never have the audition for
me because he's a like Twins that movie like came
Twin Ship. He's in the yeah, yeah, he's the director

(01:24:15):
and like a lot of people don't know that. I
think he's like I think that's his show, is it?
I believe he's I've never been like, oh, this person
needs to audition for me. I've always been pleasantly surprised
by who auditions and I'm like, oh, you auditioning, like
you didn't have to do that? Ever awkward in that
way though, But the thing is that it never happens
to me directly. They will send a take and then

(01:24:36):
I'm like, oh, But in some cases, like a kind
of prat, for example, Kyla Prat, I have so much
respect for her. I've watched her growing up. She auditioned
for a role on Insecure, and seeing her, I was like,
this is kind of prat. This is royalty, This is
l a royalty, this is my childhood royalty, this is
just general royalty. Like there was never a world where
she would need to audition, but I'm glad she did

(01:24:58):
because it made me remember her and then we cast her.
So there are things like that where it's like there
are legends that I funked with through I would never
imagine would need to audition, but when they do, I'm
reminded and I'm like, Yes, immediate casting or prentice is
like immediate casting when we find a role for them.
But is it always immediate, Like even the legends might

(01:25:18):
not fit the role. Though, no, it's not always immediate,
but we might find a role for them, like y'all
know a Polock Jay Parker from Friday and Our Family
and all that, Like she had auditioned for a role
and it was just exciting to be able to cast
her for for Insecure just because of who she is.
But she's also mad talented and you got Amanda sales

(01:25:40):
too because I met her from back in the day.
Wait no, I can't remember we first met, but she
hit me up we she ain't been able to do
her web series. I remember she came to l A

(01:26:01):
for a trip and then she hit me up like
saying that she was going to do a web series
called Get Your Life, and I was like, we should
distribute it. And then she auditioned for Insecure and she
was the best Tiffany and that was it because she
Hollywood with the Hollywood boyfriend. Hollywood boyfriend. That's what I'm

(01:26:21):
in Insecure. I think her boyfriend and her husband, and
Insecure is Hollywood. You don't know. It was like a
nerdy dude. That's like Hollywood is like black nerdy. Yeah,
black nerdy. That's Hollywood too, is black nerdy pretty much
the same ship. He was just a regular nerdy dude.
He's like nervous whack though, regular dude. Yeah. I would

(01:26:47):
hang out with him. I feel like he would be
the best shouts away, he's the most he's the best
person you could ever meet. If you met him, you
would play him all with you also go to dinner
with him. You just kickid. Let's yeah. But when we're
talking about not to do the series I want to

(01:27:09):
make about a handball player. The pitching doesn't stop, that
wears newports ready for the budget. You gotta open those
handballs or anything for him. Listen, listen, handball have you
ever played with That's when I came back to l
A and I was like, handble, what is this? I
was like, I was made because they were longer than

(01:27:30):
Olympics to me. It was longer than Olympics to me.
I agree. I think handball belongs to the Olympic. Crip
walking belongs to the Olympics. Skating backwards, I'm actual. Those
are like double deck double do belong. They do what
they do like a downgraded version they do the Olympics.

(01:27:52):
The Olympics. Yeah, I think they got like a jump bro.
It's like, yeah, I didn't need to like that. It
didn't know wait is literally know what they're doing. Yeah.
I think that deserves it. That's what we should make.
Oh my god, because the way that black people doing gymnastics.

(01:28:13):
Have you seen the videos of like black people just
doing gymnastics or like black people doing part cour we
are different dynamics, were flipping with soul. Yeah, and I
feel like that's like we can't there's no comparison, like
you know, no, we just automatically win gold medal. So
I do think there needs to be a Hood Olympics
of Black Olympics. Whatever it is, signing my idea, it's

(01:28:35):
your idea, because I feel like I heard it. I
think he did the idea. He wants you to open
up the budget. You've got more money, he said, you've
got more money. No, no, no, hold on, we can
get her Olympics. And you know, we also go to
one of the categories. So it's double dut double Dutch,
it's gymnastics. I'm still on the call. What's the fuck?

(01:29:00):
There's some great he had, like the separate the chick
Olympics with the Latinos in there's the racists we all
over the place. With the fact that you just do
the Latinos. We can We played baseball, now we played
good ball. That's already stickball, stick ball, stickball, handball, handball,

(01:29:24):
that's Latino. You got that. I'm the gout to come
out with the headband on like that. You know what
I mean. I'm ready to play. I'm ready to play. Yeah,
can you still play handball? I messed up my knee
the other day. Um, but in my respect, it was
a weight on the floor, like yeah, because I listened,

(01:29:45):
I was, I was. I was beating everybody. I was
beating everybody. And then someone threw a weight on the
floor the way already on the floor, the way already
on the floor. Shot. I got loose. I thought it
was Jordan's and then Georgian handball. I thought of Michael
Jordan up handball, you know what I'm saying. And then
I hit my foot and then my foot has never
been the same sense, but my heart is still in

(01:30:07):
the game. Did you play tell the ball? Wait? The
sting the strings? Yeah? I played in l A actually
when I went to school with the thing a thing?
How white you played that too? All right, I'm gonna
kind of white. I mean in south Gate. I played

(01:30:30):
in this Mexican and south as in Southgate. Okay, okay,
well the partnership suffer. Let's get let's get to your
famous speech. My favorite speech. What's my favorite speech? The
famous segue was amazing, right, oh my god, because the partners. Well,
let's get your favorite speech right now. You said that
you you you you entered your inner rap. Oh yeah,

(01:30:53):
my entrepreneurs speech entrepreneurialism because I can't announce that word.
You did it great right now? Yeah, you killed that.
The entrepreneur is some speech award. Okay, you got up
there there. My dad just randomly walked into the room
because you would basically, ain't any boy my family that

(01:31:15):
I don't buy my family to anything. I don't want
to bother them. But if you're proud of you, if
you had this planned out, you was gonna say, because
what did Snoop making his speech prior to this all? No,
I hadn't even seen some speech. I didn't see some
speech until people were comparing our two and okay, oh
that's because he was like, I wantn't thank me if

(01:31:38):
you you think you the whole time, I think I
was just arrogant about my ship. That I was just
like awesome, like you know, some braggadocious rapper ship where
it's just like I know what the I did, but
it was you're like my lawyer good looking, but whatever.
That was the only one. I. I was like, I said,
you are nothing, and I'm meant to say like you

(01:31:58):
are nothing without me, but it was you are nothing
by itself, very harsh, and I heard you know how
you hear a joke not go down? Yeah, and I
like wrote here but even on the pilot after that,
I was like, you know how, you super hard? I
feel like episode Insecure. Right, there was he in the crowd.

(01:32:20):
He wasn't in the crowd, so he only so I
felt like if he was in the crowd, he always
saw the video and that's how I had to like clarify,
like this not me. But that was that was fun. Tod.
So you're sitting at home, they said you have to
give an acceptment speech and you're saying, let me do
the exact opposite of what these people think I'm gonna do.
It is that hit your head? Yeah? I was in

(01:32:42):
the hair and makeup all that way to the event,
and I was like, let me write this speech. And
then it just came to me to just like go
outside of myself and just be like, let me just
not be humble about this ship, not be like, let
me not side step, and it was it just ended
up working out because you know, it was just a

(01:33:03):
more it was. It wasn't a stuffy event, but it
was just like very earnest, and I think that that
helped to break the ice. I've been practicing my speech
like that first wrap like that, so okay, yeah a
little bit. Yeah, I was prid to send my speech
like that, but you win ship, so I can't. I could.

(01:33:23):
Let's hear it. We gotta speak speech to slegendary. Come on,
come on, come on with the iPad. There's music to it.
Oh yeah, can you can play the whole goddamn speech. No, no,
you gotta say no your speech. You've been I want
to hear you wanted to work flowers. Okay, make sure

(01:33:50):
you've back. I'm taking it back, fuck y'all. That's my feet. No, no, no,
I don't remember. I don't remember the speech, but I
felt like I felt like it was so dope. It
was so dope to um to see you playing around,

(01:34:10):
but not playing around, but playing around, and just everyone laughing,
all your peers, the oldies. Uh, these white women in
the crowd, they're looking and they're they're actually laughing. They're
actually getting the joke like no one is. Although some
people can take that as as as a serious thing,
but the people were they actually getting the joke. Yeah,

(01:34:33):
like seeing it, I didn't know I by Alla Davis
was there and so like watching it back yeah at me,
but her brilliants. So it was just it was cool
to see it play back up there. You know. I
was nervous about how I was gonna play. And then
again my dad walking in there and randomly without me
and bidingham threw me off. But yeah, it was just

(01:34:55):
like it was me. What did he think? He didn't
when they said that for afterwards, I feel like he
he was like, my my friends Invitami, I didn't even
know you were getting an award, And I was like,
he has he's just synegal, but he's been here for
like over thirty years and still has an accent. But yeah,

(01:35:17):
he didn't know what was going out here. I don't
think he knew I was getting an award until his
friends told him. And that's like a game. Do you know,
acn they must know each other. Just sorry, I love
you because listen, I know y'all both send it least
because do you know my mom, listen, I've been trying
to get blacker forever. So I've been trying to tell

(01:35:39):
your breakdown. I am black and for the weekend. But
you did did you do the three and me? And
you found out that I was scared my wife did it?
I was scared. What are you fully? What's the highest percentage? Yeah?
Why is she doing an even do it? I got scared.

(01:36:00):
I don't know, I don't know what man, like, you
know what is going to show you? Some other ship
going to let I'm Cuban and kinds of crazy ship
Chinese and Sainese. Oh because yeah, because because like the
Asian and Latino community is like, I don't know that

(01:36:21):
my grandma, her grandfather was full blown Chinese that went
to Cuba and you didn't know that until you did
the thing. We it was a rumor and then she
she wasn't she wasn't proud of that, and then said no,
that's true. Wow, that just smells phenomena. Just shout out
to the branding of that smoke that's that's that simple

(01:36:42):
dog O G slash Smoke Champ. So it's not it's smells.
Its Yeah. We're not trying to tell you you smoke,
you know, I mean, we're not saying right now, like
you cross fade, I had terrible experiences. What is that
called cross fade when you are cross studied with alcohol
and it's not great for me? Yeah, don't for your skin?

(01:37:08):
Is it? If you tell me that I was taking
another shot? Let's holy? I actually have a serious question
though serious over here being the series they work on

(01:37:30):
they show, they show a lot of social media influence
and you yourself coming through the YouTube content stuff, have
you shifted in your view of how social media's impact.
I mean, I don't even know what your view was
originally how social media is impacting society now like the
generation now, like like I even changed, like just before
you even answered, Like I used to tell people, well,

(01:37:52):
it is how I'm from the generation before social media.
So I use it as a tool for for my businesses.
And I saw this just that I use it for
personal like showing my life. I'm not from that generation.
And but even now I used to I used to
be like it'st but now I'm even leaning that it's
even more negative. Yeah, I think for me, I identified

(01:38:13):
with you, but I showed my life a lot because
it felt more like in a specific community, like it
was like just my friends seeing it. And then of
course when you're in a public environment, things change. I
was never in a public environment until things until things
popped off for me, and then I was like, oh,
I have to watch what I post. And then it

(01:38:34):
became like I'm super careful and self conscious about what
I post because people will use that against you in
a way. But then I'm like, my thing is the
misinformation that the number of times, like friends people associate
with will send me links of things that are determined
in fact that pisces me off. I'm like, don't send
me ship until you have researched the fact this is

(01:38:56):
true or not, because like it's just so it's so
easy to be influenced by like just like oh my
favorite person said this was true, so it's true, and
so like for me, I recognize like the the harm
and posting something that is still being debated, Like I
do hell of research on anything. I don't. I don't

(01:39:18):
comment on anything that isn't factual or that I'm not
like certain about it sex but feel it's so eat.
I see things spread, I see misinformation spread, and uh,
on a larger scale, it's affecting our country. But on
a smaller scale. It's like, you're dumb, you're not even
researching this. Don't send this to me if you're not
researching it, don't like have a conversation with me if

(01:39:41):
you haven't looked up whether this is true or not.
When someone tells me, in fact, I will immediately looked
up like is this fact true, and then go forward
from that. But I don't think that that's the same
for everybody, or people just posting just to post, just
to be out there because you want the engagement. And
and that's the thing that I don't think we've realized

(01:40:01):
the society that it's become. It's we're feens for the
views of likes and whatever. Yeah, and I don't think
we fully come to terms with that, you know, in
our in our society right now, like I think, and
specifically to entertainment, because it's a new way that we
we have to engage with audiences, we promote with audiences.
So we're like, oh, yeah, this is what we have

(01:40:23):
to do. But I think that there's a greater bad
happening that in the long run, is gonna everybody. It's
already sucking the said, and I think it's just crazy
because I felt like we all have that one firm
where it's like where if they send you something, you're like,
I'm gonna look this at myself, you know, thank you.
But it feels like at large because celebrities or public figures, um,

(01:40:48):
just people give them the benefit of the doubt. If
they post something, then you're more inclined to believe it,
and people weaponize that. And so that ship has like
ruined our society because people will leave essentially like dummies.
Oh yes, um, what's the ship called idiocracy? That is

(01:41:09):
that the bell mar movie. No, it's a movie about
the more in time that we go, the more dumber
that we get. You gotta watch that watering place. They
watering plants for Gatorade, so older plants die in the
whole ship brands everything. It's like a dumb fucking intelligent movie. Man,

(01:41:30):
I have no idea, but no scarfaces in there being
a penface like literally the rappers. His name is double.
What's that dude's name, the white dude? I can't think, man,
they got the main dude from from old school, from
old school. No, no, the one I thought. No, I

(01:41:50):
don't think he's Yeah, he's from old school. Yeah, one percent. No,
he's from old school, the guy Umluke Wilson. There you go.
He's he's the main guy from from Okay, Okay. It's
a scripted movie or something. Actually, you should watch it
because it literally tells us the future and this is
what ten years ago. Oh no, not something I hate

(01:42:11):
when it happens too. It's just like when when the
future is predicted in the future is like, but it
makes tremendous and then it becomes true, just like they
don't look up, ship, don't look up, don't look up.
I was like, man, if they hadn't put celebrities in it,
then I felt like it would have made more of
an impact because because Meryl streepment later you get distracted.

(01:42:34):
But if it had just been what it was, then
maybe more people would have paid attention because it's literally happened.
And I think differently though, I think because it had
those celebrities, people even because it's a silly movie in
a sense, so why would they even do this. They
must take it serious the issue, but I feel like
nobody respects celebrities and what they say right now, nothing

(01:42:55):
none at all. Nobody wants to say at a time
like this. Remember this is what. Yeah, and you also
caught be for Betty Wright. You did Betty right, Betty White,
Betty White, and I catch be for her specifically. First
of all, White White, Betty Wright is dead, yes, and

(01:43:20):
Betty White, Betty White, well, she was not. She was
on Instagram because I was at the Emmy's and my
family was texting me like, yo, you have them means
oh I think I just lost or remember I was
my world was coming up and I was responding to them,
and then Betty White was on stage, but I was
still very present. But you know, I got a lot

(01:43:41):
of backlash, like you disrespecting Betty White? Big, what the fun?
That's Betty White? Like the attention which you know respect
that was? That was Illtha we do. I'm sorry you
doing that. You ask messy questions when I mean, whenever

(01:44:02):
I watched this, I look for you have a gentle
way of asking messy questions. Congratulations, thank you. I take
that as a compliment. But you also want to Peabody award.
See he comes to the clean question, come right back.
That was immedius questions. Now, I definitely have never met
anybody who want to pee bout the award, I don't think.

(01:44:24):
So that's like, you know what, I'm gonna take that. Yeah,
thank you that. I didn't know what it was until
we got nominated from what Yeah, and I was like,
this is the most prestigious award out here. So if
you don't have pody, you're yeah, like I just found out.
I just found out and this is the most important
a word. Yeah, but it was. It was you know,

(01:44:46):
mad Awards. We gots key to the City Man Awards
and to keep to my block, so you know what's
your specific block left Rack City. They don't care about me.
You go back there, bro, don't drive by. I can
do whatever. But they're not giving me ship. But guess what,

(01:45:08):
I'm still outside. What's the biggest A word? You're proud
of our CBS plaque? Oh no, what you got? You
got planning plaque stubs when we started the podcast We've
got for the CBS radio was our first million streams

(01:45:32):
for the Topic podcast and we have a gold plaque.
Accuse me what that doesn't account Trust me? She will
laugh at that one, Like what was the what was
the interview where you're like, we just talked about this
and it was a DMX I would say our first DMX,
not we had him right before he died, but our

(01:45:54):
first DMX and he was super vulnerable. He did a prayer.
Was crazy. That took us over the top. Yeah, I
mean because basically it's just us just talking. That's just
really decision. Like we worked with each other's j and artists,
like we worked with each other and then we put
her on. The thing is he's really been a real
I've been a real artist. And we appreciate this, you

(01:46:17):
know what I'm saying, Like, I appreciate you know, you're
sitting down with us because I know you don't have
to be here. I could. I know you could be
uh you know, HBO or Netflix money or whatever you
can and be chilling and you know I know that.
But so we appreciate it, you know what I mean.
And we appreciate it. But yeah, and you found out

(01:46:39):
the first time you met Rihanna. First of all, Rihanna
is Rihanna is always late. But because she is, you
can't anticipate her because Rihanna is who she is. You're
excited that she has even I end up to like

(01:47:00):
show up, you know, and like I aspired to that,
Like when Rihanna shows up, you are grateful that she
is there, and I just have so much respect for her.
She is herself. She is like who you also aspired
to because she's just like she's a class back queen,
she's a mogul. She is also like an artist, and
she has all of these things. And yeah, I found

(01:47:23):
out who doesn't. So what was that moment like when
it was a red carpet or something? You know, the
first time I met her was because we were supposed
to be doing a project together. Um, and that was
my first time in there. I gotta beee again. I'm so,
I'm taking beers, so let's go goddamn So Molly, Yeah,

(01:47:48):
is that based on your real friend? Yeah, Molly is
based off of my real friend who I won't name,
but I feel like like Molly, not the drug character.
Molly did take Molly at one point, Molly square, Yes
she took. Yeah. No, she's based off of my real

(01:48:13):
best friend. And like you, etna get mad at you
because Molly a little loose, only not a time like
that one time? My first of all, No, she's not okay,
what's she a lawyer? What's her he's a lawyer? Yes,
she want to lose. Yeah, they can't call women loose

(01:48:36):
because y'all be out here, so like the double standard
is really but yes, okay, okay, that's right. Cont but Molly, okay,
my best Molly never got offended at like the dating
life she got offended. I'm not even offended. She like

(01:48:56):
checked me about like some family stuff came up with that,
like actually paralleled her real life family stuff, and like yeah,
she was like makes she's gonna put this on TV.
And I was like, I swear to god, we wrote
this before it happens. Yeah, before happened, Like I didn't know.
We didn't use your life for this. And otherwise she's

(01:49:18):
like open, like yeah, but tell this story, tell us,
tell me, tell everybody about this, Lae neigger, tell me
tell everybody about like this situation. But for that um,
I can sense that she was like, you know, like
what the funk? And I was like, I sort of, God,
I didn't even know this was happening for you. They
were already writing it while and then you told me.
But for the most part, she's been very generous about
her life. Switching up the subject a little bit because

(01:49:41):
I heard a conversation with your mother basically told you, um,
are you doing porn? And then you were doing porn? No,
I'm not doing porn. But basically my character my mom.
I discovered even wrap shit like my wrap Ship when
a premiere. She was right next to me at the premiere.

(01:50:04):
The only fans. My lady walked in the room and
I was just she thought I was watching porn. I
was like crazy was I was like, yeah, my mom
is very like I didn't know this, but she's like

(01:50:24):
conservative like he when it comes to sex. And I
was sitting next to her at the premiere wrap Ship.
First of all, for Insecure, it was me, I'm in
it right, and like growing up, we couldn't watch p thirteen,
you couldn't watch Look. I just want to just say,
you know, well, you go all in, you do sex scenes,

(01:50:46):
and I was insecure. I did which was new for me.
But like I couldn't watch rad in our movies. I
was very like, continued to watch rated our movies until
you was our adult. You want you want to make
sure you know what you so with Insecure, like I
felt like the moment where she stopped and where she
texts me where she was like, I'm not gonna watch

(01:51:08):
because you're basically making poor It was probably around season two,
and she was like, I'm not watching anymore and not
like like her my feelings looky or I was like,
but she my mom like you're you've been supportive and
and then like you know, she saw us like the
second season finale, we were all at her house because
I don't have anywhere to watch it. I don't have

(01:51:29):
cable and I don't think I have the A don't
I don't need the judgement you already in my pocket.
But I didn't have cable and stop, and so we
all went to my mom's house to watch it, and
she was like, when I'm going upstairs, I'm not watching
this and she heard us like as siblings laughing downstairs,
and then she came back and that's what brought her

(01:51:51):
back to the show. But after like the come in
my Eye episode, she was like, I'm not watching this
episode anymore. I'm not watching this show anymore. You're a disgrace.
And but then we got it back rap shut. She
just came to the premiere. She was, by the grace
of HBO God sitting next to me, which I was
already like, oh, I don't want to sit next to

(01:52:12):
my mom. But it's not me. It's not me, but
she knows I made it so like I'm watching only fans.
What hurt was like she was ready to support me.
It's my new show, she said, next to me. Like

(01:52:33):
in the first like five ten minutes, she's laughing, like
and then when the only fancy come up, like see
her sense of but I'm looking at her at the corner, ye,
and she just stops laughing. It just like jokes after
so she's not laughing at nothing. Then the second episode
years if y'all made it to a second episode, the

(01:52:53):
second episode, there's a very explicit FaceTime virtual sex. Oh yeah,
because I know Homie wanted in the first one, so
that's what he wanted. He wanted he want to phone sex.
So I like playfully like sitting next to her while
I had second episode airs, I put my hand over
her eyes and she was like, you should have done
that a long time, and I was like, yeah, like that,

(01:53:16):
but she was serious and then she was just like
I don't understand, like you know her mom, She's like,
I did all the right things. I put parental controls.
I did you know, I restricted you from seeing things
like there's so many classic black movies I have not
seen because my mom was like, I don't want you
to see this that I had to either sneak with
my friends or if I didn't see her on nice

(01:53:37):
I know the Big Toe, I mean, my my big
ship because of friends. But like Waiting to Excel, I
never saw because she like was like every black woman
got a Separd in the XCEL. That's like in like
the scriptures. Sure, I haven't seen it. I could go back.
I know, like you know, I have friends that work

(01:53:58):
with it. But because my mom is like very straight,
so in her mind she's like, where did I go wrong?
How about the Martin Lawrence movie with m where he
was deadline? Nah? Just like PG, I feel like I
like Netflix. There was a period where the DVD phase,
I bootlegged all these movies and I bootlegged themline like
I ripped them line. But I don't think I ever

(01:54:20):
got around to watching it. Yeah, so that was her fault.
She was not working with it, and she's very strict.
I remember how we got there. Let me ask you,
as this is a super ignorant question as a woman
doing the sex scenes, I mean I would imagine this,
I would ask us to a dude as well, is
it is it awkward? Do you feel like is it

(01:54:42):
necessary to do those scenes that way, like to be
nude and all that you're not nude, you always have protection, um,
but for me, is it necessary? Like I just love
a good sex scene. I love depicting black people in
a beautiful like. I love sensual scenes. I love like

(01:55:04):
in films like some of my favorite films do it
right and where it's just like you're like engrossed in
the chemistry and the romance. And for me, I want
to emulate that you wanted to be real on screen.
I wanted to feel real on screen where it's like
oh feelings and boomerang, like even if they had like
comedic scenes and like sensual scenes like like that ship

(01:55:28):
is perfect to me, and I love depicting us in
that light. And so it's awkward to shoot, but it
also depends on your chemistry. But it's your choice definitely,
not well like you have to do like this is
like no one doesn't convince you. In other words, I
think I'm different because I'm on the creator side, Like
so it's my ship, but we're always like super open,

(01:55:51):
and we leave the lines of communication open for the
actors that have to be in the show, and if
anybody is uncomfortable or anything, then will will adjust. But
for the most part, I found that people are like
generally down to just like, you know, show what they got.
Some people look at it as like a resume. I've
a couple of male actors that I've worked with have

(01:56:11):
been like, oh yeah, ready, like like as characters that
like they use it as an opportunity to show the
world how they get down. And I think that's smart too.
That's crazy. I think that's smart too. I think it's
you know, why where why not? So when is Spider

(01:56:33):
Woman coming out? That's a good question. Did you feel
you start filming? Let me, did we start filming? So
you know it's like the animated so I'm doing the voice,
yeah already, Like I'm already grateful. I've been a Spider Man,
Fanca third grade Spider Woman, Spider Woman. Make some noise

(01:56:54):
for that and to filmed. We have done a lot
of the work. They have done most of the animation.
I have one more well, I don't know if it's
one more session. What's great about those directors is they're
just constantly making it better and better. So like, yeah,
I've done a couple of sessions and stuff like that,
but the film is great. And they've divided into two parts,

(01:57:17):
so I know that. It's like, so what does that quote?
Doing voiceovers? Voice work? So how does this happen? They
show you the scene and no, you know what, it's crazy.
In my mind I think about they don't. Like in
my mind when I think about animation, I thought, you
go to a booth, you look at what they've already drawn,

(01:57:37):
and you like matched to that, and then maybe they
changing the words in this way. Like I just go
there and I don't see anything, Like it's just script
and you start to imagine. And that's the beauty of direction,
is that they tell you what's happening and then you
have to emote to that and make it happen. But
I don't know what anything looks like. They showed me
a sketch of what, Yeah, that's it, like a photo

(01:58:01):
of still drawing, but I haven't seen like the actions
I want to do that I would love to do that.
You got a good voice. What do you enjoy more? Oh,
actually directing, creating or actually getting into someone and working
for someone directing, creating, directing. There's nothing better than like
having an idea and producing it and watching like people

(01:58:23):
that you admire, talented people bringing that ship to life
and making it better like eat more rap ship, like
I wrote the pilot. Shout out to Serta and the writers.
Like once the pilot got picked up, the world expands
in a way. And then then once it's cast, it
just takes on a life of its own and it
makes it real. And that's what I live for, Like

(01:58:44):
just having an idea and other people making it better.
You just you just said the party get picked up, right,
But how we read the HBO deal right? This is
outside looking at We don't know your business for real,
but we read that you were signed to them for
five years. So when they say five years ago, is
that something called like a first bright refusal? Like you
have to go to them and present them with you

(01:59:04):
you want to do it. If they don't want to
do it, then you are you able to take that
to a Netflix or take that to a showtime. I'm
able to take it first to within the Warner properties. Yeah,
Warner as a whole. The Warner would have exactly Comedy Central,
T and T all those things. Then we can shop

(01:59:25):
it around there and then I can go elsewhere. But
they don't. They don't want me to go to nobody's
Netflix or Apple or whatever, because that's like it's like
gang territory right now. Everybody's super The ownership is real,
especially with the streaming especially. Yeah, it's SUCHI the streaming stuff,
and they're like, you know, they're paying me, So they're like, no,
I want you to start Nobody's Netflix movie. No, I
don't want you to start annoy these Apple movie. So

(01:59:45):
it's like super competitive. But at the same time, as
the creator, I'm like, well, if you're not gonna take it,
I want to make sure it's seen. But I don't
really have that option, yeah, because they have to actually
turn you down. They have to actually turn down and
but they've been great partners so far. They haven't turned
anything down. Outside looking in, I say, stayed, I can't

(02:00:09):
love And you know what, it's the quality, Like they
have great quality, Like, how kid you not like that
ship looked good yesterday? I was just watching it and
I'm like, because I'm watching you know, I'm like, I
rap ship. This is great. It's about girls, you know.
And by the way, I did not know that I
had the Lauren Hill type of character. Yeah, yeah, he

(02:00:32):
has the tailor is missing. Yeah. I didn't really catch
on until I fully watched it, and I was like, wow,
and I see how they're kind of the same girl,
just in different worlds and differ totally worlds, and but
one is looked at as a person that is I
want my daughter to listen to you. I think the
guy actually checked into the hotel said if I have

(02:00:54):
he said, I want my daughter to listen to you.
She said, oh, how old is your daughter? He said, oh,
I ain't got a daughter. You can't tell you. That's
really like even the show coming out and the trailers,
like dudes were just like all the things you could promote,
you promoted, sister, please, like why are you promoting these
ratchet as females? Why are you why are we presenting
black people this way? And it's like you haven't even
seen it, and why are you policing like the type

(02:01:16):
of women that I can like, these are my friends,
these are the people, but that's the real ship. And
so like I was like, these people don't even know
that they're in the show and then to show that
part to show that, all right, this is one guy
who says, yeah, I want my daughter to be like
and then she asks him obviously and he says, no,
I don't have a daughter. And then you got the
other who is like almost like like I don't want

(02:01:38):
to say man's fantasy, but it's like kind of like
what men just wanted to see. You just want to
see they don't really want to really take your dates,
like like most like narcissism. And just was like, all right, cool,
let mistically straight to the point. And it's to show
that to show that see saw of two different size.
I don't think I've ever seen that in any Just

(02:01:59):
send them. I was really important because I can interview
with you the next the next day. But I was like, damn,
she killed this. First of all, I'm just impressed that
y'all watched the ship. First of all, from so like
to see the streets in there was hello, dope, and
was it ever at all inspired at all by city

(02:02:20):
girls at all? So what happened was when I was
trying to figure out the location that I wanted to
set this in, I thought about different places. So I
was like, who do I want to do it in Houston.
If I do it it, He's saying, I would hear
to make this sillion. It was basically like who wraps
her city the most? And then I was thinking about
where I wanted to be in Miami. I've had more
experiences there. I love Mimi. During the pandemic too, was

(02:02:43):
like open during this is like during quarantine where everybody
was locked up and y'all have a quarantine. Even in
March we had two months. We had six weeks quarantine.
That so that's when I wrote It was during that
sixty filmed Okay, when I did, I was like, I'm
tired of being in l A. I'm quarantined. Where do

(02:03:04):
I want to be? And it was a pleasant surprise.
And then everybody every music shows the thing Atta oh
that part they never did? Who did? No? Atlanta was
the Atlanta was loved shutting down in Atlanta. She was
open without a mask. Well that's what it was profession

(02:03:26):
about you now here it was like you know I
had to get tested. Well, no, it was like it
was just open to be Like on set, we were
very very no on the in the in the filming part,
we had to wear a mask, but like out in
the streets when it was like you're done for the day,
I just got to be free, and you know, it
was dangerous, but we didn't get we know, I'll get

(02:03:47):
COVID until we wrapped, which is a blessing. How did
you research the area ful filming? Um? From my experience,
like the office I had been to multiple times for
I love the office. It's not Mike Cup of Tea
because it's not like elegant enough, like you have a
specific script strip club experience that you know we're talking about.
Did they were smoking crack? I'm not in chat. Yeah

(02:04:10):
it was. It was they were smoking dirties that day. Um, well,
I didn't know that that happen anywhere in Miami. True well,
I had been to the office multiple times and that
was my experience, and then like just certain other parts
of Miami, and so that's and I just always have
a good time. Atlanta. The music scene is there's literally

(02:04:34):
show called Atlanta that's set there. Houston, we already had
a show that was like set in that world, in
the Houston world, and I was just like, what's new
for us? And so Miami just made the most sense
and the way you showed Miami like the Haitian aspect
of my homies, right, I called my little brother Win.
His grandfather is one of the founders of Little Haiti. Yeah,

(02:04:54):
he's here. He's here right now and it's dope to see.
And his uncles in another in an Age Field documentary,
the one about the journalists. You've seen that that documentaries
on HBO now whatever, But so yeah, they're one of
the films. To see Little Haiti, to see when to
see Overtown, like to see these parts that are untapped

(02:05:17):
in Miami, which is really the real Miami, not just
South Beach. It's refreshing and I haven't seen more. I'm
sure you're gonna show more for sure. And that comes
from the consultants, like you know, I'm from l A.
Our showrunners to read it's from l A. But we
got writers like Kid Fury and he's not there, who's phenomenal,
and another writer filmmaker named Edison Jean who's Haitian and

(02:05:40):
from Miami and he's like actively here and he's out
in the streets and he was really are one of
our main consultants to make sure nobody could look at
it and be like this ain't. This is not Miami.
So that was pretty V. You got pretty V on it.
So first of all, shout out to Pretty V. I
didn't know she was from Miami. Show all the main

(02:06:00):
saw our announcement, or she saw my announcement that my
show got picked up in Miami, and he was like, look,
if you don't want to show in Miami, you know
pretty VS from Miami. I had been following her peripherally,
but I didn't know and thought she was hilarious, but
I didn't know she was from Miami. So he had
gotten in my d M s and was just like,
if you have a show like she should be in
I Alma was like what. And so then it was

(02:06:21):
hard to get in contact with her because she was
doing while now she's popping, and he was very instrumental
in making sure that she could be a part of
the show and throughout, like without reps and stuff like that,
because it was hard and I was like, well, I
was about to give up, like she can't do it,
and then he was great, but she's so freaking funny,
but this is a different role for her and she

(02:06:43):
killed it. And then Chamelion, how how did you let's
cover prior to you even having her audition, I didn't
know about her. That was that came to you. I
didn't I didn't watch Loving Hippop Miami. I was a
big fan of Loving hip Hop the original New York
and then at Lance it was justly you're in the
New York. I never saw that one. I'm sorry not

(02:07:07):
to suspect. Thank you like your certain it's not like
CONTROVERSI I don't watch it now. I make it a
point even in the day, even on casting Chamelia, I
have masting living him my Miami. I didn't know that
it was. I don't know the Miami scene was all right.
So now I'm blowing away because now I'm thinking you
saw her and I would if I saw her on that,

(02:07:27):
I probably would have been like, I don't want to
cast her because I wanted people to just experience like
a character if you lost in it, you know how
you like, we'll watch something, So what's the what's the
what's what? The other star? The Lord. She auditioned regularly,
and we saw her audition to both the Vest and
we're me and Serda and we're like, oh, she's great,

(02:07:49):
But we were like trying to find who Shanna was.
And then she interviewed to be a writer in the
writer's room because she's a writer primarily, and uh, Serena
hit me up, like, YO, remember that girl that we
liked that audition? She she like interviewed to be a
writer and I actually really like her. And I was like, well, wait,

(02:08:10):
because that would be weird if we like her as
an actress and she's in the writer's room, Like I
don't want to overwhelm. Yeah, that part two, I was like,
what if she's gonna be? And so I met her
as a writer and I was like, oh, she's clearly
fit to write this show. She just fits it. And
then while she was in the writers and while we're writing,
we're still looking for Shaunas, but we're still keeping her

(02:08:31):
in the back of the mind. And then it came
down to chemistry auditions and we had like, I want
to say, four or five Shaunas, four or five ms,
we like put them all together to audition and the
two of them um, and then there were a phenomen
and it was like, we gotta make this decision to
hire this writer and basically and that was it. Yeah,

(02:08:54):
that's that's as it was a dope process. It seems
like a difficult process as well. It was people. It
was so hard to eliminate people because some people are
you know, uh she said it, so I can say it.
But like if you're watching the security I remember Tasha,
who was like Lawrence's love interest, the famous back shots
heard around the world. We brought her into audition because

(02:09:15):
what is his eyes? She's such an incredible actress. I
strongly believe she could play of course anything, and we
brought her into audition for both for me and Shanna,
and she was great in both um but it came
down to like authenticity and we still found a role

(02:09:37):
for her. But like you know, that was heartbreaking for her.
She came in, she killed that ship funny as fuck,
and you know, I'm sure I thought, like they brought
me in, I'm gonna get it, and it just that
that just wasn't the case for that. But like when
someone is so talented, you find a way to work
with him, and that's when that's what happens when it
comes to Dominique is incredible. Well, when you're bringing people,

(02:09:59):
you know, does it would become personal? Yeah, I'm sure
she was like, well, why did you bring me in
if he wasn't gonna pick me um. But she's really gracious,
so she never said that to my face. You haven't
had to fire a friend, fire a friend. You know.
I just fired my friend. Sunny was fired the one

(02:10:21):
I just trick. But we'll hire him tomorrow. Okay, So
there's like a boy. If I had that, I do
like a friend friend. I don't think I've ever had
to fire that, and I don't I don't wish that
on anybody. That's hard have y'all like in real life. No, today,
you're really gonna let him go today. We got to
tell him about herself. You gotta tell him about herself.

(02:10:43):
But y'all, y'all gave him the alcohol, gave himself the alcohol.
Let's just be clear, give yourself. I don't even know
how he got. He smuggled it in here. You have
to stay you have to stay side. Was the cross
fadedness like was he trains? No? No, he didn't eat

(02:11:05):
him wrong. Show we came. We don't have hair maker
with food that no one don't have. We usually don't
have toilet paper. Just people don't do it home. You should.
You should have seen the because we didn't know because
we're like a guy's club, so we didn't know. You
should have seen the first females who came to see us.
They were like, y'all discussed takes we had, We got

(02:11:28):
to just get it together, like you know, it was
another place that we had. We had eight to nine.
What is wrong with is gonna be good? You gonna
realize we're not sitting down, so we're we're standing up,
so we're not realizing how crazy it is. And then
I think, I think the females came and then my

(02:11:50):
wife came and said you gotta step it up, and
that was just like yeah, And then that's when we
started to notice yo yo. We started the toilet paper,
we sort of order the regulars that we should have
had light soul, you know, but you also down, but
you awesome. You also got down in your own coffee

(02:12:12):
shop at one point. At one point it was like
they just made you call the names. Is this true?
There was like didn't want you to make the coffee.
They didn't want you to do but I love you,
but I can't say yes, I'm part owner in a

(02:12:35):
coffee shop. I thought it would be really great in promotion,
like be a barista because I've always wanted to do
that and they were open. Were barista at the coffee shop,
just like at her confee shop. She owes it. So
you did the think things. So I was supposed to do.
They were supposed to train me to do that, but
I was late for my shift for training over the

(02:12:56):
ship for your own shop. Yes, I was like, they
were going to train me to do the Barisa things
right before. It was supposed to be like a ten
fifteen minute training. I was ten fifteen minutes late. So
that when I would just have you worked the register
and the register is hard. Have you seen like it's
a lot of buttons. No, it's not even like it's

(02:13:17):
like I don't know everything if you don't do it.
Was a lot of mechanics, and so it was a
long line shout out to everybody who came out to
you know, have me serve them, and I was holding
up the line. So that's when they were like, you
know what, you should just call the name and then
you got fired because I was still there. There were

(02:13:40):
two things. I think you did the register, and you
did one more thing, and then it was just like
we think you should just call the name. I didn't
even get to the one more things. No, they didn't
even let me make drinks that have a premade drink
because they didn't train me. And that's like she's the owner.
That's I'm never gonna blame the staff. They did a shot.

(02:14:04):
They didn't strain me, but I was late, so if
I had been on time, everything would have gone with
And this is Inglewood, This Inglewood. There's three locations, but
it was at the Inglewood location. Y'all should come through.
Were y'all gonna come to l all the time to
see supid Inglewood? Yeah? Your family, I mean my grandparents,
they got relocated after the freeway. My family's in down

(02:14:27):
here right now. And Inglewood that's that's like the building,
the community. There's a lot going on there. But did
y'all say y'all came to to interview? Yeah? What was
that compoun Oh the sound count the audio broad compound
he got death. Oh no, that's separate, yea yeah, but
it's an Inglewood. It was an Inglewood has to be

(02:14:50):
there is that's the audio? Yeah, okay, that's the same thing. Yea, yea, yea.
Y'all want to see'all do house calls for these interviews
because I go to Chris Brown's house, can't come to
my house because we didn't get to your party with
us there. Let's go to the party. We're talking about

(02:15:13):
your president. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. We just don't
have to talk on the mic. We just drink. I'm
so mad at that. Let me ask you something, Um,
are you enjoying it? I'm a good as time. You
didn't even finish your sentence, but yeah, I'm good as
stick because you know, you know why I've been. I've

(02:15:36):
been in this game twenty two to twenty five years, right,
and I've seen so many people hit the top and
not enjoy it, not realize that they had the very
very top. And it's not like you ever drop but
this might be it, or it might be even more,
but even why you're here, sometimes they don't even they

(02:16:00):
don't enjoy it like that. It was an exception when
I her her today saying that she wanted to keep
going but she didn't recognize where she was at that
I was like, all right, cool, So like to me,
you at the top of the food chain. I respect it,
I honor it, I love it. We we love it.

(02:16:20):
Uhould see how we talk about you behind your back,
which is so that's why we're talking about you like
this in your face, because this is a milestone that
we're proud of, and I'm asking you, are you enjoying
it now? I'm definitely enjoying it because I have a break.
I definitely don't think I'm at the top in anyway,
but like, I enjoyed every step of the way. I'm appreciative,

(02:16:41):
I'm grateful, you know. I'm like the where I was
very close bye to me and you know, I'm just
happy and I love just the people that I've been
meeting along the way. It's fun, you know, like even
can I be Debbie Down? Her? Yeah, you're married right, yeah,
recently you plan on having children? Oh you are Debbie

(02:17:04):
Down And it's good. It's good. I got two young
children and I love it. But it just changes everything.
I know. That's my mains right now, because that's like
it feels like it's all or nothing situations about that.

(02:17:24):
So I don't know, I don't know, but usual when
people like could I be Debbie Down and they're like, so,
you know, it's like the career part because it's not
a downer. Yeah, because having children is an amazing thing.
You're lying, No, I'm not. Cardi me balanced it very well. Now,
I promise you had like three children on us. Everybody
does it differently. Even when Cardi b was pregnant, people

(02:17:47):
are like, all the bitch don't ruin her career, and
it's not true. That's like high I think about it.
But look at Nick Nick out here pregnant and everybody
Nick as a man. Men are different, So I will
never take everybody they have children like you guys are
active fathers. It's not the same because you're not like

(02:18:09):
you can still how what's old for Oh yeah, for sure,
but it's different, like it's not gonna stop you because
you're like, I don't have to stay home in breastfeed.
I don't have to stay home and do that. But
I got to be home with her with my kids,
got them. That's that's still an active choice. But you
have a choice. I feel like women don't have the
choice in that way. But I think the more obviously

(02:18:30):
money you have, then there's an opportunity to make it work.
But it's still it's still changes in your life. You
want to be right now, but I'm still thinking about it.
I gave a deadline to myself figured out and obviously
a matter is like you know what my my partner

(02:18:51):
slash husband things, So I don't know, it's the whole thing.
He's a legend, wherever he is, wherever he asked, whoever
he is. We ain't going with bills even if we knew,
because we don't know. But if we know, we ain't
gonna show hello. You know what I mean, because damn
your privacy taking stat Yes, you make me when I

(02:19:18):
damns his name again with y'all, with you, you know,
I yeah, man, I'm so proud. I'm so proud I was.
I'm so happy that you stopped. I'm happy to have
that had me for you know, I met you once.

(02:19:40):
It was on the weekend. What you dissed me and
picked me up at the same time. What I'm about
to say the hotel, but I won't. I won't say
the hotel. Tell me that right now. Remember this in
South Beach. But I don't want to say the hotel
to because I still go to the hotel too. Move
my son, damn okay, okay, y, I'm with my son.

(02:20:01):
This is like I think it's the third season you're
on fire. Oh my god, you're on fire. I'm a
downstairs see you at the hotel, I say, I say
to my son, because I don't want to be the groupie,
so I blame it on my son. I'm like you, Noah,
you're a fan secure like homegirl right there, because he
seemed to us watching the shows, He's like, oh all right,

(02:20:22):
there was like cool, my son gets down on the program.
Immediately he knows his he knows that he knows the excitement.
We walked over to you. I was like, he's not
my fan because I have a picture. You said, yeah,
of course. But last time I seen she was fat.
You couldn't need to make up your mind, said, let

(02:20:46):
me tell you. This is the reason why she didn't
like like she was on Insecure. She was like, you
need to get He was like, you need to make
up your mind. Last time you was he was just
mad in shape And I was constance, you actually up
agree by the way, we'd be pulled that picture right now.

(02:21:10):
I'm holy ship, yo, But that's what I knew. Like,
I was like, yo, she is the character, but not
the character. But it is the character that's fair, And
I think that's what makes it easy for you to
write these real life experiences, these first sure that I
feel like I have not changed in that way, like
I've gotten a little bit better abouhinding it. But I just,

(02:21:32):
you know, I say the wrong things sometimes, but I
feel like I forst sure it biggs you with you.
Do you think you still awkward? Yeah? Okay? What is awkward?
What's the definition of awkward to you? When you are
just inept in social situations where you will just say
that wrong thing or just feel uncomfortable, Like I feel

(02:21:53):
like sometimes I'm just never fully comfortable in my own skin.
Like I'm a confident person, but like I'm just worried
that I'm going to make the situation turned weird. You're confident,
but you're not confident that they're confident in your confidence.
Oh yeah, thank you, thank you for that. That's it.
That's pretty much. And I think as the ower person,

(02:22:15):
you're like always thinking about how people are viewing it
and then yes, and then thinking about that you overthinking,
You're like they think that I'm working, they're thinking I'm
working that right, think this word necessarily because the thing
like that, there's no way you're awkward. I don't think
no one who's ever had a fight and said I'm
just gonna win this fight. It's everyone how many people

(02:22:36):
are about but it's something most people. We all get
the butterflies. Like I've performed for twenty years and I
still before I get on that sting. That's like people still,
that's awkward. That's not awkward, that's like nerves. Have you
ever gone into a conversation like like, for have you

(02:22:57):
ever hesitated? This is a sening. You go to a party,
you don't know nobody is there any party, just like, oh,
they're gonna be looking at me like I don't know nobody,
second guess in the moment second guessing. But then do
you still just go up to a group of people
and start talking like will you ever go to a
party by yourself? People will go to party by parties

(02:23:17):
by themselves, don't have an awkwad bone in their body
or they are awkward as because they're like, yeah, that's great.
I can't even that's you know, if you can't even
imagine anything, you're not No, yeah, I'm more quick. No
alcohol helps me. It's like under underrated in that way.

(02:23:44):
It's not like the solution and at one point I
felt like I had low subpustate when what point get
into who I am pre pre like and then when
you got there, you were like, oh, I'm man. Still
it still existing me though, it's still a part of me,
and I have to talk to myself and because I'm
a number one fan, like I'll be gashing myself off,
like you know in the mirror Roman, Like, yo, I'm

(02:24:06):
not having like I do that every day. I don't
even need a mirror though? Is there anybody that can
get you down? Like? Is there anybody in your life
right now? Especially age? I feel like the older you get,
you're just like I'm not phased, but is there anything
where you're like self conscious? Is there anybody where you're like, oh,
they got to me this particular? Like for me, teenagers

(02:24:27):
are scary if I walk past teenagers kids, well my teenagers,
just because I remember what it was like to be
a teenagers and teenagers have a wave seen through you.
Am I reading you in a disrating you And I'm like,
if I see teenagers, I'll walk across the street because
they just get off like clowning the kids like my
daughter four years old. But that's like pure. No, what

(02:24:51):
the you've got no hair? I said, my because that's
what my grandfather told me. Okay, it's not my fault.
You said that mice each that's my grandfather told me
that it's fire about his he's like mice eaters there
at night and he feeds mice and that's nasty. But

(02:25:15):
I thought, wow, he's helping these mice. So helping these
mice by feeding that. So I told myself the same thing.
That's amazing. It's not amazing that I would have never
had nothing better to tell my daughter. But yeah, like
they'd be saying, man, get embarrassed, like super easy. That

(02:25:36):
that's the worst fear. You don't have, like an insecurity embarrassed.
Everybody everyone has naming it. Yeah, I told you my fear.
What's y'all? What was your favor? Good teenagers? Teenagers? Okay,
I just told you kids, little kids, they're gonna say
some ship. I guess I'm just not accepting that because
kids just talk shit, and you know that it's not

(02:25:57):
they're looking at you at face value. They're gonna say ship,
And you were like, but it's not delicious, no, but
it's face that's the proms it's not delicious. It's purely like.
It's like belly, you got this weird thing on your
face right there? The fuck? Yeah, that's fair, I know

(02:26:19):
my fairst. People want skateboards with dirty nails. Oh, come on,
that's ridiculous. Man. First of all, have you identified that person? Yeah,
that's fair. You can't see dirty mails nails from all
the way when they skateboarding. Okay, what do you what
is are you going to judge? How do you see that?

(02:26:41):
The judge free zone? We didn't know judgment zone. I
just with but yeah, I don't like I don't like
skateboards with dirty nails. I'm just skateboards. But they don't
scare you. Okay, Oh we said we scared things that
scare you. This something? Oh that's very easy. Birds pigeons,

(02:27:06):
because birds is a ship out of We're seen the
geese cross the street like this what you want when
to fly? Why are they crossing the street? Is it geese?
Is a bunch of them? Or goose is one of them?
I like, I like, let's figure they should He'll give

(02:27:32):
you back your geese. Let's make it even trade because
I'd rather pigeons and geese pigeons because they got they
took some of our pigeons. The geese. You ain't ever
heard of this. They're just flying north and then they
fly south for something. That's birds in general. Yeah, what
I'm saying theirs so some of our birds go to

(02:27:54):
Canada and get long. It's not something. It's all. This
is scientific ship. I'm breaking down for y'all. You know
what I'm saying to Google. This is all It's like
my misinformation. We are information information notation. It's called drunk
information from drunk by the way, So what's next? What's next?

(02:28:17):
I want to create a movie. Like I said, I've
only made two television shows like this. I saw this
respected all around. Its real. Yeah, let me take a

(02:28:39):
shot for that's shop that. Okay, okay, alright, that's what
I'm crazy like that. After that, Okay, what's next? I
really want to build a studio and something like I
want to see studio like what Tyler Perry has done.
Oh you want to Tyler Perry. Yeah, But in fairness

(02:29:02):
to me, I was thinking about it before, but then
seeing him executed on a different level, it was just
like wow, no, I was I had something to do. Unfortunately,
I had an obligation. I wanted to go so badly
and I don't like stopped the premiere of the pictures
all that, and I'm just so proud of it was
black excellence and he did that. And like the fact

(02:29:23):
that he has a studio where like Marvel and all
the biggest companies in the world have to like license
or like rent. His ship is incredible and it's like beautiful.
When I was shooting a movie called A Little out
There like in Atlanta, he had just opening like a
little girl. Yeah, when ma st Martin, who was a
legend like he came to set invited this multiple and

(02:29:45):
that so prevents to me. Like when I was out there,
I was shooting that and I was like, I would
love to go, but he's just he's the real, genuine
person and I respected. But to build that same studio
on South LA. We don't have that much of lands,
but I still want the space. You know, l A
is l A like that is, though you can do
it outside of it soft like I like Insecure. Our

(02:30:09):
last season we shot it in like the Cooinment, which
it's like forty five minutes away from l A. And
I just want I want South l A on the
map because so many people shoot there and I just
want to place and people film because when you say
it's South LA and so many people will shoot, it's
a different type of the shooting. And we think about
it's a different it's on location as opposed to like
on a stage, and I want to build stages and

(02:30:32):
you know that takes multiple locations for your part. So
that's what we're working on actively. But that's what's next
for me, is just figuring that out. And then it's
just you know, the economics. But you got this, thank you,
thank you? And then it's I mean I don't even
tell you. I'm just saying no, we just know you
got to thank you. We all know you got this.

(02:30:55):
We are proud of sh is you. Thank you. So
that's that's that's the next step. That the next step,
and then of course that full flesh feature movie. I
do like I want to make our mark on the
film industry, like the way that Jordan people was able
to like shake the game up. We get out. I
want to figure out like what our market is. That's
all right on on the film what what what? What

(02:31:17):
is your ideal movie? Your first feature? I just love
I love thrillers. I'm not like on the horror side
like he is in that way, but I love things
that just make you tense. Like give me an example
of a thriller. I mean, I just I talked about this,
but I just rewatched Have I seen the Time to
Mr Ripley That I just looked at it on Netflix.

(02:31:41):
It's popped up, and I said, nope with Matt Damon,
and I went to something else that we make a
movie that you don't want to skip over here because
I mean I looked at Matt Damon, I looked at
the title. I said, not for me, and I went
to something else. I'm sorry. I love any for thriller
that makes you tense. That's one example, but there's like

(02:32:03):
even that's an example. You were you were on the
edge of your seating that and it's a simple concept,
but I just love that, especially when black people are involved,
you know, like as people to call it, we we
react to things differently. And there's just like love Birds
almost a thriller kind of but it was more comediate driller, driller, drill, driller, comedy,

(02:32:31):
what's the what's the pronunciation? Thriller? Du driller, driller, duck
drill driller, You got to put that in a verse
or something. Yeah, you know, I work it out for you.

(02:32:52):
But that's like ideal, you know. And I just want
to make things that people have conversations about. Like I said,
like I love what conversations I love the same? Does
that make us talk as as people that get us excited?
And so that's the kind of things that I want
to make in that that doesn't have to be a thriller,
that can just be genre. But I'm figuring it out
like you've ever driven, like you know, and maybe this

(02:33:13):
is a debut it down there like you know, all
the all the things that's going on with all people,
and you know, we make it. You're making cinema. You're
making for people to enjoy theirselves. But we're constantly faced
with the George Floyd's your constantly face is this Is
it ever like a pressure pressure to put that in there?

(02:33:35):
Or because on one hand, if you put it in there,
kind of making people, but if you don't put it
as as a black person, sometimes they judge you. Is
that something you go through all? Not all? Because it's
like literally existing in real life and black people know
what it is. We know what it is, so like
for me, it's just like, whenever I see that, I'm like,

(02:33:56):
are you making this so white people pay attention? In
which you know, I understand to some extent where it's
just like, oh, if you put it in entertainment, maybe
the people who have the power will understand and humanize us.
But for me, it's just like, I really think about
my friends when I'm making stuff. I think about my
family when I'm making stuff. So it's never like I want,

(02:34:19):
you know, white people to see us and you know there,
it's just it's real already, So I don't want to
make movies about it, Like I don't want to make
entertainment about it and make money off that when it's
just a very real thing that nobody's doing anything about.
So that doesn't really appeal to me. For me, I
just like to make sure that makes me laugh, makes

(02:34:41):
me feel things that's like right now in this particular
era of fun like and that just resonates with me.
But I never feel an obligation to do certain things
unless it's an obligation personally where I'm like, damn, I'm
missing this on TV, Like on a very superficial level,
I miss the rodic thrillers like I'm mad. I love
the indecent proposals of the world, the basic instincts, all

(02:35:04):
those things, like there's a genre and that hasn't really
fully existed in an elite waysides. I see this right now,
I see this right now when she's coming from a
little bit. But like I just I don't know. I
just like that for us, man, that's crazy. We know
what we need to bring back. What did jeffersons? Listen?

(02:35:27):
We need a twenty job because of friends? Because did
you just did he? Did you? Were you just appeal
to the man relaxed. We knew we child before that,
but not really. But I'm a d for Miami and
it was this. No, I'm not saying that's so good.

(02:35:56):
Start my confidence. I understand that, Jeff like more on Porseco. No,
I'm twisted, twisted, There's no way you're good. Just one more.
This is cut my perfect shout. This is the champagne. No, no,
you're gonna put it in your elegant glass. Told us
that do they pay off? Very cool? We're very cool,

(02:36:20):
so they just give it to you all for free.
We know we're very cool. We're very cool. But I
don't know them to do like brand sponsorships. So they
very cool. You were very cool, and that's what you know.
What if you're gonna drink champagne, drink black champagne, the

(02:36:40):
best champagn I'm not mad at that at all. Did
they start we're moving for everybody black. Remember that we're
moving for everybody black. Look at that? Goddamn it. Yeah,
that's true. Everybody right by head? Look at that. Huh
do you say say it's also owned by the homie.
It's just oh, yes, you don't have to have the

(02:37:03):
same as space, Like it's all under one umbrella, but
it's all on the one guy. It's the under one umbrella.
That umbrellas over there, then the umbrellas over there. So
they say it's a specific guy, but he's not a
company and jay Z invest the same guy we support.

(02:37:24):
That's why we suppoke Japanese. Y'all came up with the show.
Did they approach you or did you say, hey, we
got this show. It's called team playing. We was in
the locker room together, so did he. Jay Z was
all like, we'll give you money. We don't even care
about the competition. No money and then the Japanese they
hollert and they said, do you know they both threatened

(02:37:48):
me the same the same language. You want me to
tell you to the threat um? Jay Z said, do
you know Mr? Because I said on on the show.
One day, I was like, I'm never drinking my wet
again because I don't know miss them wet. So then
the show kept getting successful with successful successful sus I

(02:38:10):
don't know why. He just took in my bottom. Okay,
she got weird, see I'm saying okay. So and then
one day it happened and Jay hit me and was
like a spade ran out. This is during the pandemic.
It's spade ran out. There's no more used space. So
we're just being fast and getting some more way. Boy,

(02:38:30):
I thought this man would never see this show. Boy
that he sent me a clip and said, I thought
you said you didn't know Mr Them wet, And I
was like, I'm sorry, Like you know, I don't argue
with jay Z. Just being honest with y'all, I just say,
I just say, I just even when I'm right, I'm sorry.
Just move on. How don't you fix this? And it's

(02:38:51):
been fixed? So when y'all said that I was in.
No like obviously, there's no drink sponsorships at all. No, yeah, yeah,
no drinks positive at all. If we started out it
was it was two bottles. What what were the bottles?
It might have been surround. No, we sponsored ourselves with bottles.
But y'all actively chose to Rock to absolutely and Rock

(02:39:12):
chose us. And then later we had we had relationships
with when you first first started, you had relationships with
Rock already. Not well there, it's a complicated story. I
used to work for for bad Boy doing the promotions
in Miami. I've worked the rock. He didn't. I couldn't
even give it away to him. Oh yeah, I got

(02:39:34):
this camera can tell you stuff. You know what story,
it's a true story. I couldn't. It was nobody wanted it,
nobody in the world, in the country, in the world,
and we our job was to give it to radio
stations and give it away. We couldn't give it away.
But anyways, long story short, um I had a documentary
series that that when revoltd TV launched, which is a

(02:39:57):
Puffy property. Of course they I since my documentary was
my first film I ever did in any kind of film,
and they licensed it, and then he had a relationship
with Puffy as well, and so when Drink Champs took off,
we had relationships and we parlated into the Revolt system
and Revolt Puffy, so rock it was a natural thing

(02:40:19):
to bring in. So we didn't. By the way, I
think this is for us by us. Y'all got the
y'all got y'all, I know you'll have the weed. Oh no,
you want we have had you? When did you? Because
I'm not ready yet. Whenever it's ready to just bring it,

(02:40:41):
we're sending to us. And we put on the tail.
We had fake Drake, fake Draco bring it to us.
You know what I keep thinking about persecond? You know
what EXeCO is. Per second? You know it's that seat
right after first class shut second first you can smell it.
It's all right there walking down. You had you have

(02:41:05):
like Lamarca. Have you had prosecco in your life recently?
I've been traveling for twenty five years, so I went
to Champagne France, and I realized that if it's not
from Champagne France, but what about Prosecto Italy? Like yeah,
that's the thing. It's all about the name. It cons
that's all the same. I want to turn you into
a converter. So I would like you're coming back with yes,

(02:41:28):
that that's what we're doing. Okay, bad I don't want
you to like actively come my persect. I wish you
tasted okay here, but this is your this is yours,
and you made it. You side that you tasted it
like that you show Yeah, just give me jump. That's
not on it though right now I'm not launching it.
It's not on it. Okay, but yes, okay, eventually you

(02:41:51):
will have in the future. Yes, you're actively doing this.
It's already yet. It's already what they got they got
they got um oh no, see um? What is it?
Like fat boy Rose then they got or like instead
of skinny girl, it's a fat boy girl. You read
that book skinny Girl? Why, like used to with the

(02:42:12):
skinny girl that Well, there's like skinny Girl Margaritio, skinny
Girl wines. So I'm assuming fat boy came after that
or no, fat boy something I don't even know. It
was the Beverly Hills Housewife. Yes, but like y'all having
your own tequila whatever liquor, what's the what's the drink
of it's obviously why I have like GUACAMOLEI coming out.

(02:42:36):
He went straight to the way. I just I might
as well pitched, I might as well keep it going
for it. Yeah, holy nor guacamole coming out. Yes, I
got my own beer here co side of my kids.
It doesn't matter. No, no, no, she tasted. No she

(02:42:57):
didn't taste that. You have to walk Molley right, listen,
let me just play you something. I'm gonna be honest.
Money up the first batch that I got. What's horrible.
I'm not gonna lie to you. I told everybody this
is my blockam. People was like, he was like, this

(02:43:17):
is people, this is just say you know it was
It wasn't good. People was like, who brung the potato
salad with the raisins? Raising That's that's an old black ship.
You bring some potato salad with raisins, you gotta kick
them in the fuck out because potato salad and raisins
do not go together. So when the person said that,
and they know it was myla, I gotta get this together.

(02:43:38):
So no, I did not why I why what they
just said? This ship is horrible. I wasn't fun. So
I went back. I said I don't know if you'll
know me black and I'm Puerto Rican. Yeah I need flavors. Yeah,
I need one soult. Wait, technically is not to be ignorant?

(02:43:58):
Is is glackamonly press Mexican? It's Mexican. Okay, So you
have tomato? No, I don't know you had so raisins
in it. So the second batch did the same exact
then it same exact people. These are the people who

(02:44:19):
make all the French fries for mc donald's. I promise
you it's coming up. I can't believe they're doing this
business with me and then probably help CoA side, but
I can't believe they're doing business for me to a
second batche, I do it out on my next barbecue.
And they told it, did you take it first of all?
To begin with both batches? And he still with no,

(02:44:41):
I did not go on. No, I did not go
out it. No, No, I couldn't do it. No, the
second one. But you're saying like it's good, it's amazing,
you know, it is it is, it is, it is,
it is. It is finally so now ready to so
when is it going to be out? Like out there? Well,
we were getting the packaging together right now. Find he
got the avocados. We finally got everything together. Actually, I

(02:45:03):
didn't know that this is like mafia ship? Are you
gonna incorporate it into that? You know what avocado is mafia?
Avocado's mafia. This is like as well, stay in wraps,
but it's more safer, you know. Like's like she's really
like because that's like like I don't know. No, I
did not taste it, and I looked walking MOI. He

(02:45:24):
doesn't leave his house. He just he's just he's he's
a super I'm a father of two little kids, and
this guy says, I don't leave my mouse. He just act.
I'm just being a father. She's just fifteen of the
father to come out like great story. You don't respect it.
But holy I got one more shot left in me.

(02:45:45):
Let's go. Have you got one more? You have one more?
Just for rap shit? You could do it trying to
take off Neace. I am mad at him. Ye'll wanna
take off that flat. I want keep putting on shows.
I want to watch over it. Listen, did you watch
um What's the Ship? On HBO? Mass about the the world?

(02:46:07):
Off the four seasons? Wait? What the four seasons? Hotel
in Hawaii where they just everyone's just killing everybody and
sucking everybody. You ain't see this ship white was it
look google to this, But that's not it. That's not
where everybody's killing and sucking everybody. First of all, it's like, yeah,

(02:46:30):
but everybody's killing each other. You had me, but I
love that show, So what are they doing? If they're
not killing each other, what are they doing? It's about
like killing just my service at the end of the day,
ye about appropriation and customer service and the couple of

(02:46:51):
people die one literally one person. I honestly want you
to like review movies and tv us, but they would
just be wrong. Yo, he needs you need to do that.
By the way, they run away MTV had a job
for me like ten years ago. But it's just like,
you know, we just wanted to describe the funk out

(02:47:12):
of the movie Fuck It Up, describe. They wanted me
to stay in what you don't funk with, Like I
like the idea of what you suk with, but like
if you don't sunk with something, then I know that
I need to stay away. Okay, I'll tell you I don't.
I'll tell you what I do funk with one more time.
Have you ever seen Space Force? No? Yeah, I have

(02:47:33):
seen that Actlix show. Yeah. I don't like it. I
don't like thank You, I like you, doesn't like it,
And I don't have my man name from forty Salute Salute? Yeah.

(02:47:53):
And what's your favorite show besides your show? Obviously, and
besides the dating show? What's your show that the show
that like set me off? This year's Severance. I will
talk about that ship all day. Severance on Apple Apple
TV Plus is phenomenal. It is the best season one
finale that I've seen. If you want to bring you
some ship, you got it. It's like a mix between

(02:48:15):
a comedy sci fi but like real Ship and Severance. Yes,
it's a sci fi joint, but it's like sci fi grounded.
It's like sci fi ten years from now. You know.
It's good as fun. I love that show. That's the
last show where I was like, damn, that ship was
good as fucking I've been telling everybody, but and they

(02:48:36):
got nominated like for hell to Um ship this year.
But it's good. What about your Should we talk about you?
Working on Patty? Patty made an appearance on our first
season of Black Lady Sketch Show. They had an amazing
sketch idea. I remember the first time we went to
go to their writer's room. One of the first sketches

(02:48:56):
they pictured us was like a sketch feature in Patty
Labell and it had me dying like fan and then
I was like, but we gotta say get Patty to
say yes, and that guy her to say yes, and
you know she she killed it, and then yeah, and
then seeing her in essence. Essence is so tricky, Like
this year was a little bit weird because it was
like the first time that everybody's back, yeah, post pandemic

(02:49:18):
and the concerts there's a lot of legal ship going on,
not to be messy, so it's just like hard to
be there. But Patty coming out during one of the
concerts just changed the game. You just are immediately reminded
like she's a legend. She outsings anybody, like anybody, and
just reminds you why she is a legend, why she's

(02:49:40):
a diva, why she is, why she's an icon. And
then she's just a lovely person that like feels like
she could be in your family even though she's done.
I heard you on the flight back from Essence Road
method man ghost Face first of all met the man. Well,
it's crazy when I saw I immediately because I said

(02:50:03):
it in front of you. She said, I got this
information about I have nowhere knowing that, but yes, I
would beat you up. Like it was not the man.
It was ghost Face who came after and the like
with me back from Essence to I was going somewhere else.

(02:50:23):
It was on my way to like Jersey through Italy.
And when I tell you this is like a fantasy fulfilled.
I was putting my luggage up in the overhead then
and like it was a struggle. I'm not gonna lie
putting it up and helps you know, not yet. So
then this man we all have masks on the plane

(02:50:44):
because COVID is flaring back up again. So I put
my thing up and I was very rough rid it,
and I got to sit down, and this man in
front of me irritates me by being like, you know,
you almost put somebody's head out putting that luggage up,
And I was like, oh did I? Yeah? And I
was like oh did I? And then he put his
mask down like you know who I am? And I

(02:51:05):
was like, man, what no, I didn't got into the
media mode, and you know, he was just super sweet.
And then when I got off the plane, and then
he was like, yeah, my wife looks with your hair
products because you have like a hairline cost in the natural.
And that was like immediately, like man, this man is

(02:51:26):
showing love. And then when I got off the plane,
one of the plane landed, he got my luggage down automatically.
Don't want to get hit either. Do you want to
get hit either? I would like to think he was
a gentleman. And he was like, yeah, you and Harry
Belafonte those only ones, Like I legged down and I
was like, that's amazing company, Like he helped her, and

(02:51:51):
Harry man said the only two people he helped with
his luggage is you and because you don't have to
help anybody. He had that off even what he was
doing that all there, Like I was, I was honored.
It was crazy. It's literally the night before I was
watching videos and him because he performed the essence too,

(02:52:12):
and I told him awkwardly, I was like, yeah, I
was watching your workout videos all that because I'm in
like super into my fitness. He posts like videos, so
to see him on the plane the next day, it
was like really nice. He was just wonderful person. I
respect him. Goddamnit is there anybody that's a fan of
you that you did not expect to be a fan? Um?

(02:52:35):
I would go back, like Regina King was like one
of the first major people when I was doing seven
Black because I'll be getting was also amazing, both of them, honestly,
but I don't not to confuse them further, but Regina King, Yes,
why is that the latest? Seven? Yeah? It's the latest

(02:52:58):
my friends, Like Regina seven, was you treat Uh? What's
that ship? The Leftovers? What? What's the ship with the
with the black um cowboys ship? Oh? Yeah? Come on?

(02:53:19):
Why you didn't say Regina King thought top two to seven? Okay,
he just his top preferences. Listen, listen THEO. He could
do a lot of roles. You mean Malcolm Jawanna Warner,
he's gonna be for the rest of his real credit.
Wo Okay. You know you look at the sy Malcolm,

(02:53:41):
you'd be like, come on in your mind, but you
can do that because you're you. When you see Wesley Snipes,
I says, yeah, you don't think you know. Nobody says that, No, no,
nobody says that even now go up to west you

(02:54:01):
see Chris Sucker, you don't see no, No, he has
so many more smokey y'all, y'all brown, even with all
he's done. I called Westley Snipe, need no brown. If
he didn't need no brown, now he's done so much.

(02:54:22):
That's that's how saying what what what? What? I like, Yeah,
that's why. But it is it is some some people
kill a role so much that that then for the
rest of their life. No, but that's not true. It's
was he s knips. Yeah, I've been playing around. Obviously,
there's some people who have a role with It's that's fair. Yeah,

(02:54:43):
it's just like, let's let's name is somebody with a
role that you the role that just I don't know
them from that. I will only know Stacy dash as
Dion from Clulos. You're phenomenon, that's like resident. Yeah, he's
sports card what else? You know who? But but connection,

(02:55:09):
let's be clear, let's be clear. And she's from Queens
who she's from Queens? But come on, when I see
Pam oh yeah, pass Pam talking about Pam Grier though, Martin,
I'm just saying she and but that's but Pam is

(02:55:34):
Pam you agree on that? Yes? But I respect to
shea Arnold, I love you. I think you're multifaceted. Yes,
and Carton that's you know, And what are we not
keeping it real? Heads? We are now Selena from mark

(02:55:58):
jlos Lena is the best world that she's up right
now with Josie. No, we don't look at how like
what's what's what's to do with the tall dude from
Mark Man passed? Yeah, listen. He moved to Miami and
when we was young, jets going, I was pressing up mixtapes,
used to come to Kinko's. Hey, what does it just means?

(02:56:23):
Just kids kids in Miami? Yeah? And I was like,
she was like stupid ass j And I was like,
J means I love you? Yeah, I didn't know what
I mean. I did watch it on Tommy because he

(02:56:44):
moved down by where we lived, me and my friends,
and he used to come to the Kinkos where I
used to make my mix tape covers. And he's trying
to school us on the industry like he would like
he was like trying to mentor us in a good
way or in a way where I was like why
you don't know? Okay, totally positive way, Like I don't
even know why he was the King. I don't even know.

(02:57:06):
We didn't, he didn't belong and I don't know what
the funk like y'all used to actually listen. No, we
did listen to. What made y'all listen because he was
from Martin was a show that was and it was
and I didn't even know. I was like, fun, Tommy's here?
Whether is he here in our little town and we're
in South Miami, like where the fund is Tommy here?
And that's crazy? How just like global that was were like,

(02:57:28):
he's not a side character, but the side character was
still the ship, Yes, absolutely and universally known even doesn't
happen character man, Yeah that was still Yeah, Yeah, that's crazy.
I mean Hustleman, the actor. I don't know him by name.

(02:57:54):
Oh that's a guy you don't know about here his bodyguard.
That's what's crazy. I believe. I believe that's most party
guard in real life. Yeah. Yeah, And they ain't have
nobody to play the role and they just had him
come down he said, broke one from the fifth floor
and put them fall And they said this Nigga is
legends and they hired him. That's why I don't have

(02:58:16):
no food here. Yeah, we don't do that. Sorry, well
the wa out there, yeah he has to. The'll be
just walking a no, no, just walking. But you know what,
you love it. We're not used to having girls here.
We're not used to having queens here. We're going to

(02:58:36):
food because because you know why, we have to invite
our beautiful by my wife and my wife's friends. Because
to make y'all feel more comfortable. First of all, don't
that's not the excuse. You should just want us here
because because my wife feel comfortable. No, no, we just
want to make more comfortable because this woman power men.
I'm down with the woman empowerment woman. Woman. Woman need

(02:58:59):
empower me and we all empowerment the woman. I think
woman because I'm a feminist. I'm a feminist. You know
what I'm gonna time. I'm sorry, I'm sorry because of

(02:59:25):
any reason, but it's hilarious special, he said. A feminist
is anybody who believes that the woman's rights should be respected.
That makes me a feminist. A feminist, and I want
to put my blacks. We're gonna take a shot for

(02:59:51):
the feminist in this world right now? Okay, let me
ask you something because this do you play spades? I'm
playing a long time, but I played and I'm excellent.
Oh I guess skeptical. No, I'm not skepticism with you.

(03:00:11):
This is what I need to know. Where does space
come from? I don't you gotta tell me? Because definitely
from jail. Why are you asking legendary game? Y'all play space?
You play space? Well, I definitely from jail, just because
the rules changed so much so space, yes, but let

(03:00:36):
me tell Let me tell you something about space. People
judge your blackness by how you play. People be like,
you play space, and you'd be like, no name, Yeah, yep,
Loki Dominos too, Yes, I'm a Domino player. But they

(03:00:58):
judge you by not knowing bag. Yeah, I've seen that,
um are We're gonna put space in one of these
series because I've never seen like, I think that should
be an Olympic sport to space and moments dominant because
there's an athlete power because you never said I do.

(03:01:22):
But I've never been in the game that I've never
really played spades with like men men, like I've always
had a female partner or like a male. It's another woman.
It's always like, you know, it's respectful. But when I
just see men play space, ya, That's what my wife knew.
I was way too competitive. She was on the opposite
team with me, and she got it. Did y'all we play?

(03:01:48):
I don't know what happened. She was like a girl
came home, girl came over the house. She wanted if
you do girl? I was like, really, okay, you know
we feminist, but you know my team. And but the
other day trick Daddy. We went Daddy and they played

(03:02:10):
the cheating the space I some Miami ship. That's he
changed the rules on me three times in the same hand.
No learned. I needed to learn. And then when I
called on what did I do? Ros I ran, I

(03:02:31):
want to ask, oh, I killed them two hands, and
you know what I did? You know what I did
that to that? What? Like the rational person that I am?
I quit. It was so dumb found that they was
looking like, because you know I'm in New Yorker. I
talked man ship once I went like like if I'm

(03:02:53):
losing him quiet, I ran it up the first hand,
the third of the first two hands, they cheated. Just
be clear, don't say yeah they cheated, they don't change
the rules on me. And I said, okay, I know
how to change the rules too, And then I ran
it up. Who was his partner somebody knew or just
my partner was his partner? They was all they were

(03:03:15):
normal because I had to. I'm in there barbecue. I
can't be like you, you know, so I got just
next like cool, this is his hype man. My partner
is his hype man. I feel like they're texting each
other like this is what he got. So I'm like,
all right, my partner not even on my team. I'm
running it up on him too, you know, I'm just
smoking on the fact that his diamonds. You had a

(03:03:37):
legendary space game with like legendary icons and music, like
that's the that's the we're gonna play space, partner. There's
no like space for the yacht like it's strictly dancing, drinking, smoking. No,
there's no space table. First of all, it's like the ocean.
We could do that, though we could play. I don't

(03:03:57):
want anybody sitting down like like what you're gonna drink? Yeah, exactly,
cheers drink you maybe perform y'are the best y'all party
that we ever had, especially to l a like September
tenth weekend. Then it's done. My birthday, says number six.
So then we'll have I can wait. I can wait
if you're if you want to have an impromptu performance,

(03:04:19):
which is what I was getting at. Like Miguel came
to one saying, a doorn Okay, you're gonna have to
say what what what? What? You? I love it. So
if you are in town that weekend, come through. First
of all, I have to get a boat first. I'm

(03:04:41):
all talking this ship, but like the boat has to
be available. But but you said, yeah, yeah, he's just
a boat. But I'm like, now I'm like self conscious,
and you're really gonna come, Like I have to like
step the yacht at because you know we'd be living
my we should be writing from my house like this.

(03:05:02):
He kept his sharp. You live on Star Island. No,
he lives on other Star Island, the other one that's
like he doesn't place. I live on normal. I live
in Kendall. No, it's totally normal. Well, if you'll have
a party out here and you have yachts, you how

(03:05:25):
long you've been out here filming this we were here
six months, and let's do a Miami thing out here
for the series, like Incorporated. If I had known that, like,
I would hate. But now we're just getting acquainted second seconds.
I should have camera. I swear to god if we

(03:05:48):
have a second season and y'all don't, we are here.
We are part of this community, so please include us.
But I don't want to beat Normy. You got this, Yeah,
I don't want to be Nor. I want to be
like like nobody. That's the only thing with this show
because you wanted that's because because you know why, you're

(03:06:10):
also what you have not realized you're also my Asian.
I don't know if you're okay, okay, so whatever, because
they're gonna see this same like your Nor. It's a
great act I'm like, you listen to until the Easter.
That's it. That's it. I want to break it down.
Like with Insecure, I was hyped to get musicians play
other people. But because raph it is sent in the

(03:06:31):
music world, your music, like you have to play yourself
and then just whatever being like a little or whatever
it is. But like and now I want actors to
play musicians. So if I do another show and you
want to get your acts on. Yeah, yeah, that's a difference.
I want to be what's she trying to play? I
don't know, you don't even know. I just you should

(03:06:53):
be like a magician's just water, but Nori, I like
that trying to wrap. I like that. Yeah, you'd be like,

(03:07:15):
I'm not a mogul. I kind of like. I think
that's nice, but it's still playing. Like I want to
see you play something different outside yourself, not a doctor.
I don't think I could pull it off someone. I
swear to God. I swear to God. When I was
doing my role role, someone actually asked me to do
a doctor. I was like, I can't get that ship.
I just never win. I never win black Man. Please.

(03:07:38):
Yeah no, I've never met a doctor with like a
hardcore in New York. That's crazy. So you say, I
see the win, Yeah, absolutely should, Like you could doctor.
What's your diagnosis? If you like, if you tell somebody
they got kiss or how are you going to stop me?

(03:08:01):
Like in your role you hold on, hold hold on,
I'm gonna yes real quick. Can I set the scene?
I have cancer? Yeah, I'm the director director. My character

(03:08:23):
has cancer. My mom is here. She thinks that it's
the tumor is benign and we think we're out of here.
We're fine, So how are you going to deliver the news? Also,
I have like twenty four hours to live, okay see
Paul's pause bus ready a hey doc? All right? Actually

(03:08:45):
as we had stop stop set? Yeah, alright, what's your name?
You're my friend? Right? All right? Stop you I'm a doctor.
Oh yeah, you're the doctor the home. Everybody, everybody set
a hey, do stop man, director of men, here's your

(03:09:17):
director skills man guns out? Everybody set? Do I know
your name? Or you just my pace? Susie que set
for sne Hey doc, I'm my mom. Here dot you spoken?
He's an acturalist? Real? What's rare? My talent? Which is real?

(03:09:42):
With me? Oh? Real? Just covering some ship. It's gonna
make us both. I'm not happy. Was are you rustling?

(03:10:02):
You are not her friends getting together? You're the doctor.
You are the doctor. That's why, that's why they show
up the doctor. See who sees the patient? Are you
all ready? Are you already? Huh no, No, you're not ready.

(03:10:28):
Get a shot like you coaches like point is not please?
All right, well, get your ship together and get your
ship together. Cool, that's what the point is. I got
what's your name? Good, let's go. You have to acknownedge.
My mom's right cool, her mom is right there, right there. Cool.

(03:10:49):
Ready wait, ready, action, Susie. I've just seen the diagnosis.
It's not I could give it to you like you know,
the other way, or I'll give it to you the
real way or the nonchalant way doctor, like we came

(03:11:09):
to me. My mom came through like with all was good.
So I just want you to give it to me real.
I feel like we should take a shot first. I
know I'm not gonna keep this through doc. This is
let this sounds drink as a pilosh. This is the

(03:11:31):
doctor's office. Is none of our business. I feel like
I'm eighteen. You still take a shote to none of
the pain. Moms too, Come on, we got the Japanese
dall mom, you know you know what it is. Okay,
you can get your shot. All right, it's a good news. Yeah,
we're gonna party two night nine. It's two thousand twenty.

(03:11:59):
That was terrible. Everybody, have more, have more. There's no
way you're delivering medical news. We knew. We knew me
as a doctor was not the word. Man, you have
to be a doctor. Now, let's do another scene. Let's
do a scene where you're the doctor and I'm the

(03:12:21):
homies that got shot friend. Oh, let's do it. Let's
do what mean you got shot? Friend? No? No, no,
no no, I'm not a director. Still no, you're not there.
You didn't like you as a director. So you are
the doctor. I'm holding him down. He just got shot.
Niggers hit him up at the ice cream shot. They
didn't like, I'm your friend. I'm holding you that, but

(03:12:46):
I got I just got you. Gotta talk to me
because I'm holding him down. He's all he's like, he
got you know the noise hat like that? Cool? Cool doctor.
All right now I'm gonna be sad. Now I've got
this part, this part guy. So who's the who's the director?

(03:13:06):
No director, he's no director. No girl. Hi, Mr Diego Diego.
I like that. Thank you doctor. You have some having
with moa Chico. Where were you guys? First of all,
can I get some information? He's um, he was at

(03:13:27):
flaning against. He's at flanning against. He just left show girls.
He was he was at the strip club with all
the girls. Got bullet holes and them, and then he
went to No, this is planning against again. But he
went to he went to show Girls. He went to
show Girls and the show girls you know, you know

(03:13:50):
they got one leg strippers, you know that type of ship.
You know. Yeah, I understand. He had cheese. He said,
he's blacked us in tower. Yeah, well I have some badness.
Does he speak Spanish? Hends? Does he know the word morta?

(03:14:12):
Because he's gonna die? Is that with the morphine is
sucking him up? You know, we didn't actually put morphine
in there. We just put some cornac and he should
be fine, he shouldun back. But what's your relationship? Did
you shoot him? Murria'll just friends? Okay? I was, I
was there. What was your affiliation? Um? They got there

(03:14:37):
some weird Mesican. You know this is Mesican, and like
I'm Puerto Rican and black, So I really don't got
nothing do with that ship. But after it happened, I
was like, you know what, that's the homie. Let me
put him in my hondai, you know what I'm saying.
And then I brought him to the y'all. Then we
wudn't stopping get some weights. I was hugly. You don't

(03:15:00):
at the time, like you know, like dot, I needed
some lemon pepper, So I got a couple of lemon
pepper and then um, I dropped the home off. But
when did he get pizza at that point? Because he
said he had pizza? You're looking real suspicious pizza. Um,
that was left over in my car. Some some pizza

(03:15:20):
some car pizzas. Yeah, no, he ate the carpiece. He
ate ruck pizza. By the way, it's rugg pizza. It wasn't.
It was carpi pizza. Because you know, like I think
he got shot. We just gave him a little bit
of ecstasy to like numb the pain. And that's the

(03:15:41):
reason why I like. He's a little crazy. So you
know him, I love him. That's why I'm here, Docum
I think so no, my okay, I think we need
a director. I don't see. I think we're certainly without
a director struggling. So it's insane. And I killed that.

(03:16:04):
I killed that, listen, and you were determined not to
die that the commitment there was phenomenon. I watch listen,
I will watch this. Okay, okay, but how many of

(03:16:25):
your friends like actually tried to like that like we're
playing around but not really, but because it just like, yeah,
you made it was like no, I got that ship
a few and some of them, to their credit, do
and some of them, like when when I'm believing someone,

(03:16:47):
I would try my hardest to make sure that like
they at least have those opportunities to do themselves. But
there's some people where I'm like you never even like
why now? And why me? Why? I like you know
you yeah, And that's what it feels like. But when
I believe in someone, like I'm a friend, but I'm
like the biggest champion of my friend right now the

(03:17:08):
way I believe in the way I'm about to give you,
like you guys there no but forever. Yes, I've experienced

(03:17:33):
that where people kind of expect you to put them
on because they're on, but I can't. I can't have everybody.
I'll tell you the funniest thing. I'm sure it's like
the same way of music. And I'm going to a travesty.
I'm talking about this like two people that died to
people because I don't want to say person today, but
let me just tell you something. Let me just think

(03:17:55):
so he hits me and he's like, yo, I'm there
for you. You know, I'm like, thank you, man, I
appreciate that. The next three texas, I see, but I
don't really recognize that he's texting me. Do you know
he sent me three records? Oh my god? When someone

(03:18:15):
and this is this is he felt like he had
my ear at the time, so he didn't want to
he didn't want to lose the opportunity. And I was like,
and I knew he didn't mean it in a way
for me to be offended, but just just imagine me.
I'm losing I lost this person, this person. And then
and I'm talking to him, confining him obviously like yo, yo,

(03:18:36):
bro yo, and he's like, yo, I know how you fail.
By the way, I didn't even know this dude rapped.
And by the way, I haven't wrapped in six years.
I don't know why, like maybe actually get on my podcast,
Like but in this very moment, he fucking sent me
three records, Like how fresh is it? This was thirty
minutes after we spoke. This is thirty minutes after we spoke, um,

(03:19:01):
and twenty minutes after he sent the condolences. I mean
when I when I tell you it was a great conduct.
I got on the phone literally was like I missed.
Just slam slam me in there like that, my man.
And then thirty minutes that I went downstairs and he
sent me it was crazy. Is he never said check
these joints out. He just sent it expected me to

(03:19:23):
be like, all right, cool. It looked like a voice message.
You know how the voice memos look. So when I
hit it, I'm like banner and I'm like, oh my god,
this like a sitting music. He thinks that in this
time of grief, I should so that that was it,
that it hit thrower. No, I didn't listen to it
at all. I ain't gonna lie to you listen to

(03:19:44):
didn't capture if it had captured in that moment, if
you hadn't heard it. And it was like like a
dent of everything I do. So if I grieve, I'm
gonna grieve a hundred percent. If I'm like, if I'm like, uh,
if I'm halfway there, I won't do I have to
be a hundred percent. That spek why I haven't gone
to the studio. So many people have been offered me

(03:20:05):
so much money. Do you give me a first? I
can't do it for my heart is not into it,
I won't do it. So then you have to be
in the receiving mode. But there's never if you're not
in a receiving mode. Are you saying that, there's no
opportunity for you to like like say you're shut down
yourself or like here's something that opens you up to it.
There's no mode where you're like, I'm shut down, don't

(03:20:28):
wanna hear anything? Oh wait, that's if it makes sense. Yes,
how much the negative stuff is coming at you, that's
the problem, you can but how many people are coming
at you in a negative way? Like I want to
give an example without really explaining what happened, but I
got hit up by somebody that said, and I have

(03:20:50):
to really be careful with how I say this, we
got your back because I believe it's so crazy if
it's true, they were like, yo, mom, someone died. They
hit me up, like someone died. Can you post this
image of them promoting them? It would mean a lot

(03:21:11):
to me? And did you know the person? And in
my mind, I'm like, of course I feel for this
person as a human, But what the fund is wrong
with you? Like, why would you think that a you
create an image for this situation. They said, it's fresh.
It's a fresh situation, like it happened the day before yesterday,

(03:21:35):
so the graphic was created. Are you very close to
that person at all? Nothing he told you to post
at all. Like I'm trying to say, this is a
random literally a random But the fact that I'm just
saying this shows you the level. This is why the
social media thing that I'm saying is where we're at,
Like we're in a weird space. That's why you're staying

(03:21:57):
away from social media, especially when you come to personal situations.
Is very honores. But I also understand like how people
use it and it's like how much it means to
certain people in a very sick way. Like it's like
that person would feel like if you posted it, then
the next narrative will be like do it again, Oh
I got you know if I didn't didn't post it,
which I didn't, Oh, this guy's found for sure that

(03:22:20):
but if you did, that's when they would find power
in themselves, Like you know I got him to post that,
Like that was me? You know how he posted that?
Like I did that, And there's just like a different
type of power within people. It is like, how do
you this is how your mourning. Your mourning by wanting
some random person to like but an important person go mourn,

(03:22:40):
go more where you ever felt obligated to like post
your friend's birthdays. And she's like that, like, oh, I stopped,
like because I'm very like that's that's the hard part.
Like when I was when I finished Insecure, I took
six months off of social media and that was amazing.
And what I realized, though, to my guilt, was like

(03:23:01):
I didn't have I don't remember birthdays, and so that
was like a stargo. But then I was like yeah,
but then I was like, it freed me from having
to post anybody on their birthday. But it's still like,
you know, I would rather like give you a personal
message on your birthday, text you. I would rather tell
that how I am. Yeah, yeah, And it's crazy. I

(03:23:22):
remember I don't want to say what I did or whatever,
but I remember doing whatever I had from one of
my friends for their birthday and they said, but you
didn't post it on the ground, Get the funk out
of here, come on out of here. But this was like,
this is a real friend, this is a real friends
generational ten years younger than me and and that matters. Yeah,

(03:23:47):
that that's different comment. I mean, mind you my girl,
she doesn't take it that serious, but I've noticed she
will tell me something. She'd be like, YO, whoaa, you
didn't do this, You didn't like on this, you didn't Yeah,
my friend birthday it was I felt like obligated to

(03:24:08):
repost everybody who who tagged him in a birthday post.
He was like, I just feel anxiety. And I was like, what,
why do you feel obligated to repost anybody who was
tagging because he was like, I feel like they're doing
it because they want me to repost their message and
their story. And I was like, I've never heard of that.
You think they're only wishing you happy birthday so that
you will repost? I see you not, not even some

(03:24:29):
of them do. I was like, it's ridiculous. I'm sorry
to agree with that, but I skied you that I
saw it for myself, like and not only I saw
it for myself, Like I said, I experienced it like
you know, you know, because I don't want to call
a person poor or you know, less fortunate, you know, so,
but he's my friend because I don't I don't judge
any of my friends based on anything financially, because you know,

(03:24:50):
they say you get to Heaven based upon things that
you can do for people that they can't do back
for you. So I take pride in having people that
I can I can do. But when I was, I
was doing a certain thing and I was, you know,
taking care of him, get him drunk, dinner, on everything.
And he was like, but you didn't post it on
social media? That hurt hurt me so much. And I

(03:25:11):
looked at it. I looked at him as if like,
you know, um, what what what? What? What? What? What? Like?
I like, none of this matters, like and that's when
I realized, sometimes if it's it doesn't happened on Instagram,
doesn't happen considered currency right now. So it didn't matter
what I did, like I did some fly ship shafts
like like you know, just said, come on, let's just

(03:25:32):
shut but what you I didn't want to post it
like I was at a time in my life. I
just didn't want to post myself or anything. Same same
completely get it. I think this, I think that's beautiful.
Give me the candle. She she needs a candory, and

(03:25:53):
that this is a marijuana. Yeah, you know, marijuana, Mariana.
Give it to your friends, give it to candy. You kids,
it's not actually want You're good, You're you're good. I'm
stuff with this. Yes. Can I just press me that

(03:26:15):
you say? You know what smoke taking all the smokes
hybrid the TV we got, we got regular royal flower too,
if you want, girl, I'm not man, but I'm gonna
take one more shot in and rap ship for you
because in celebration as a wrapper, as a wrapper X rapper,

(03:26:41):
you are a rapper. Brother, you're not. He's not rap
x rap. You're naming rap ship some bold ship. So
I really looked, and I wanted to make sure it's
some wrap ship. I know. I was like, man, you
ate it something around, keep watching. But I appreciate you

(03:27:02):
even saying that. For the first two episodes, I love
I love it. So, so can we give us a
hint of what's happening on three or four? Because this
will come out the week at the next So baby,
by the time that when does the third episode drop?
Every episodes drop every Thursday? Yeah, every six pm because
they have something on Thursday. Yeah, okay, alright, cool? And

(03:27:25):
drops on Thursdays parties. So so let's give us episode three.
Episode three. I really love because it just broadens the perspective,
like it helps to connect the dies between which you
saw in the first two episodes. We follow certain characters
and it just makes the world wide of like Miami

(03:27:45):
and these particular people and don't make sense for the
whole season. So I hope people check it out. Well,
I'm checking it out all motherfucker's thanks can get here?
Do we open another bottle? Just around just because? Okay, okay,

(03:28:11):
we gonna be honest. I really appreciate what you're doing
for the culture. Thank you, what you're doing, for what
you're doing, everything that you're doing outside Solu, Thank you.
Now get the print. Can't wait to go. I'm gonna
call so many people, and so many people said, so

(03:28:34):
many people said, that is a real one. And not
only she's a real one. She cares about people. She
cares about how many people were about taking people and
I kid you not in this six years. I believe
he did it six years and dream Champs. What the
the amount of people that called me and said, do

(03:28:57):
you know how many things she's done for this person
and this person, this version this person and I was like,
where's that work? Google that. It's like, that's the thing.
She doesn't even give a funk about that. That's the
most honorable ship in the world because most people is
like this, I just bought him a friend, he got
got him a Glizzie and they and they're selfie in it.

(03:29:19):
They're selfie because they one day they one day you
know what I mean, people are giving people bums. They're
giving bums a hundred dollars and saying, look you good,
and they're thinking the day they look good for that.
We knowing that you're doing that for cloud, We knowing
that you're doing you have your phone in your face,
we know that. And they're like, but I don't do
this for the ground. Yes, you knew. And to hear

(03:29:43):
the I'm out of Hebrew that said, yo, you know
what she did? You know what she did wrong? And
I was just so impressed. And like I said, most
of the ship that people told me, I'm not gonna
say because if I said I know that, they're gonna know. Mother,
I didn't tell you to say that. And I'm just
so impressed. And the thing about it it is, I
think I learned this word in London, cheerio. Because you

(03:30:08):
deserve it, You deserve a salute, you deserve everything. Um.
I want you to continue to do what you do.
Keep monkey footing through this game, stomping on it. Be
the gum on to the table. I know it's no
gum on the table, but you know, you know that
should be sticking there. Continue to be that, and guess what,
We're motherfucking proud of you. Thank you. This is your

(03:30:28):
platform whenever you want to come over here. You want
to promote pink toe nails, you want to promote perfect
to you know what I'm saying, rubber bands. You know
what I'm saying. We don't give a funk what you
want to promote. We're gonna stand here and promote what
you We're gonna hold the product up, We're gonna do whatever.
We gotta do it because you know why, you are
now a drink camp and you are a legend, and

(03:30:49):
we would love thank you till you continue until you
do it. Thank you something. Now I gotta watch that.
Don't mix that drink hit, it's straight cast. Sop up,

(03:31:10):
now I was too late. Don't mix that drink hit.
It's straight cast. So bo up now, I was too
late drink Japanese whiskey proferably yeah, Mazaka eight teams definitely,
I still got you, like who gottat you? Spending big
money since big hat who shot you time and is everything?
So why you gotta whack watch? I got security and

(03:31:32):
snipers on the black block. They thinking keto when I'm
saying one mill of day, ain't talking fact that when
I'm talking one mill of day, could probably double it
by leaving out the country before. Keep my ask home.
I'm happy monthfleet secure like Ray, I interview with Easter
raymore blunts against the hips to be on Lisa. Ray
makes that drink hit. It's straight and it's straight cast.

(03:31:52):
So bo up now, I was too late. Don't mix
that drink and it's straight cast. Sop up now, I
was too late. Come in drink with me, get shook
and drunk to come and drink with me. Getting tell
all your cousin come through time. I'm really happy. I'm

(03:32:12):
really yeappy, really drinking your juice because y'all drink Pappy
bad Winkle my suit stone Winkle always had the piss.
I never had the twinkle, nor remasculated. We had to
masulate big boy trumps in them big boys, we had to.
Let I see they claiming that they rich to the bill.
Come then they accident or I got him like they
tell drawing a new life to me like me, new

(03:32:34):
life to me is cocaine a whole new white to me,
I see they copy me without a gun is still
a robbery. Drink champces ah noomalone. Lost that drink and
it's straight cast, so up. Now it's too late. Don't
make that drink and it's straight cast so off. Now
it's too late. Come in drink with me, get shook

(03:32:57):
and drunk to come and try me get come through.
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