Episode 335 w/ Shaquille O’Neal

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect
and I Heart Radio and it's Drink chas Mother podcast.
He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like, that's your boy

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in O R he's a Miami hip hop pioneer. Up
his dj e f N. Together they drinking up with
some of the biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast.
And yet number one sorts for drunk is New year'
Z's time for Drink Champs. Drink Up the would goold

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be hopefully's super point in O R E one up
his dj e FN and this Drink Champs. Y're make
no now. Usually you know when we start the show
and we do this show, we give like you know,
uh intro introducing these people. But I'm just gonna just
read off stats. Let's just start of stats. Four time

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NBA Champion, three times NBA Finals MVP, NBA Most Valuable
Player two thousand, fifteen times NBA All Star, three times
NBA All Star Game, MVP, All Star, NBA First Team
All Star, NBA Second Team, All NBA Third Team, NBA

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All Defensive Second Team, NBA Rookie of the Year, NBA
All Rookie first team, NBA Scoring Champion, two times IBM
Award winner, NBA Anniversary Team. We're tired at thirty four
and it just just keeps going. You forgot one and

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the only one to platinum and them only Yeah, hold on,
I'm talking about we got to drink to it. So

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the best on record, don't work about what I'm drinking.
The best basketball player rapper of all times. I need
another drink all time. The only guys had that kind
of flat black. We're doing a lot of talking with
your drinks, talking about what second on that second sports

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co homes sports this act. I'm gonna drink some champagne
because I'm come up because we we don't know, if
you know, off our shows about our shows about giving
people their flowers, and we wanted to start off this
time bout giving you the flowers, even though they might
have some greasy fingers because they eat my fo No

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forgot like ready me Google, you know I'm going to drink. Yeah,

(03:56):
we go. You don't ask you what I'm drinking. It's
that you own Papa John's. Papa John's. I don't own
Papa Johns, but you have something I'm on the board.
So when the Papa John's Hope fiasco went down racial
they called me and I said, I would be involved
if old boys not involved. So they made me the

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first African American member on the board. And you know,
we put some females on the board and we're doing well. Now.
You know the guy that's in charge of a guy
by the name of Jeff Smithy. He brought me like,
I wish you own own thing, but Jeff smith owns it.
And I'm just the first and only African American member
on the board of Puppa John. So you know we're
doing big things now. First and only you start something
coming stop something. Yes, I want to I want to

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face why do you Well, I don't want the thing
off because because I heard you were supposed to get
You're supposed to be about down with Starbucks at first.
You know what happened was I could have been the
first one to open up a Starbucks in the hood.

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So all right, that's the key word. So the owner
of Starbucks, he he came and he said, Shack, I
want to open up Starbucks in the hood. And I'm
thinking about where I'm from. I'm like Jersey City, Jersey, right,
I'm like they ain't gonna work, And yeah, I told
him the first Yes. I was like, my man, that
ain't gonna work because like I'm thinking hood, but I

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ain't know nothing about red Jennifer Jennifer, so I thought
turned down that Magic Johnson didn't you know, made a
lot of money. But you know, I was just trying
to I was trying to stay stay true to my
roots because nobody my family drank coffee. So I was like,
I was like Howard Schultz, you know, I was a
good friend of mine, the owner of Starbucks. I was like,

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I don't think it'll work. And my guy was kicking
me under the table, like, you know, take the stop.
But like it was gonna be Shaquillo Nettle Star, like
take these toppers down. I was like, but that's that's why,
that's why, that's why when we say educate yourself, it's
not all about going to school. It's just like it's
just like learning, like you gotta know what's going on

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in your neighborhood. I know I know what re gentrification
is now in the North because I'm doing it. Me
and my group, the Boat Group, were responsible for tearing
down the projects and building condos and building. You know
what you do with the people that are there. So
we have you know, we're charged some people, but you
know we let people, you know, do the section a thing.

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You know, we get people jobs, so you know we're
beautifying you know, the city. I don't never never that alright,
drinking that. So so I've seen you, I'm talking. Do

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you feel like you're the best basketball rapp up all times? Yes?
I do too, not because of bars or whatever, it is,
because of my discography big and yes I figured out that.
So one. You know, we all come from the same place,

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like like basketball and music is right there. So for me,
I'm not on the court. I'm lll co J. I
went to the flea market and got to fake douk
rop and mirror and then when I get to the court,
I'm dr J. So when I first got drafted, I said,
I want to do something different, like everybody buys a
two thousand dollar suit and said and brag. But I said,

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I want to wrap in my favorite rep group, which
Fushnickers at the time, Right, So I did it on
our senior Whole show. Shout out to Fushnickers. I didn't
I send you the Hall show my agent, coming X
said he ain't gonna believe this. I said, well, he said,
Jove offered you ten million for three albums, and I'm
like that's I'm like, bro ten million. I never wanted

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to be a rapper and they wanted to do an album.
You know, for me, just meeting you guys, it's a
pleasure because even though I'm Shock, I'm still a kid.
You remember when you first came out, was the first
one to call you. You pay one game and I'm
just sitting there watching it. And then at the end

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of the game, the alic just actually said something that
he goes my name Shock, but only fan Corn be
popular the old everyone just stopped. Just say you're so
when you so, when you're Damien and little right, who

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was y'all dispute? He was saying that he was the
best of what was. It wasn't a dispute. It was
fun for me because I felt like a rapper. I
was in the battle Dames. A Dame's a fine fellow,
great rapper, great player. But you know how we are
with our egos. You can't say you're the best when
I'm around. You can't say you're Superman when I'm around,

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but there's nothing personal. Okay, you say you're the best.
Watch this you drop on the drive to It was fun,
you know. We we talked all the time. You know,
we had a great time. And I wish real mcs
could be like that, Like you gotta beef. We call
and talk. Hey, my wife, out live my kids. I'll
let me say whatever you want. Do you say and
then we just go back and you're living the mic.

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So when I was becoming, when I got that album there,
I was like, I don't want to be a rapper,
but I want to wrap it all my favorite rapper artists.
So it makes me the best. Like I said, it's
my discography because it was Fush Niggins, Red Man, Eric Sherman,
Fat Joe, Big Pun, Michael Jackson, Quincy j uh Nas,

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Lord Rick, Notorious, b I G jay Z, Ice Cube,
Snoop Doggs, and a lot of underground reppers. The Guns,
Cory Guns, Cannabis, that's your boy, Cannabis, your boy. It

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was what I'm drinking. It was, don't it was rumor
that you had to that's a real one. It was
had the first record with Nas, jay Z and Big Yes,
like on the same record together. So why did that

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record didn't come out like that? Because when it came
out was a jam big you know how it is.
But people tell the people that don't know, naming the
record is no love loss and it was you j
Lord Torek and people people didn't clear. Look I didn't.
I didn't take it personal because again me being in
the studio or now, so I'm happy. I get to

(11:09):
call my boy and be like, hey, come over and
nos off. You know. I get to call my boy
and said, hey, j in here. I get to call
my boys, said you know, biggie at the house, but
to jump on the sea, duce, guess what it's all about.
And not to disrespect you guys. It wasn't enough money
in that for me because I went platinum, right. I
was like, oh, I went platinum and they showed me
the check and I was like, it's some bullshit. I

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was like, and then I learned a valuable word, recoup,
Like I had to go my thing. I was like,
how you're gonna try to leave for studio and I
got my own studio. This ain't right here. So I
got a few hundred thousands back. But I was like,
so I really focused on just just going in there
and having a good time with my favorite artists. Was
that ever like a sidetrack? Because you know around test

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is actually from Queen's Reason from Left franct Now to
Await And I remember Ron being fully distracted because he
was really focused on this album and we like people
that's his friends have associated to him, was like, nah, bro,
stay on the goddamn court. Did was that your mind? Like? No, No,
I knew I had to impress both worlds. I don't think.

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I just called up red Man Eric Hermon said, won't
be rapping like they they audition me freestyle. I had
the freestyle. Okay, freestyle again, now that's written, that's written.
You don't give you five minute like so I had to,
like every every rapper of that show up, I had audition.
I had to. I had to. I had to do
my part first, and it first, and they're like, okay, cool.

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But I realized that in the studio together, right No,
so yeah, yeah, So when when I finally got the
word that biggest gonna do it, I did it first.
I didn't like it. I did it because remember no,
I ain't like it because member the studio in my house.
So I wake up and no, because because my thing

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is this big coming in one. I gotta impressed big,
because the big say no, this is terrible. I'm done.
I won't get a second shot. So I did it.
Letting my boys here. He ain't, Bob say it ain't good.
Let my boy here. He ain't like it. Ain't gonna
let my boy here. And they said that one tight.
So okay, so big flut out of him in a
little sea. So I'm nervous, and you know, we go

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in the studio him in the little seats. He said,
play it. So I played it and he started doing this.
Now I'm like so he like, okay, big dog, that's tight.
That's tight. And then I said okay, he likes it.
So I'm gonna let him, you know, him a little
sea do that thing. So I said, here you go, big, no, no, no, yeah,
Patton Penn said, he go hit the patting pen, hit
this button right him and be in the house. He said, no,

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I'm ready right now. I said, what you mean, you're
reather right now? And you start smiling. And he went
in there and he killed it and the first verse,
I'm the only one they got it. And I'll never
play it. He went off, and I damn they had
a tear of mind because I had to press that button.
I was like big. He was like yeah, yeah, for
the kids, for the kid my bad diesel and then
he did the verse that you're and the thing. Yeah,

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I got it. I got it, but I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna play what's your favorite hip hop? Our
row listening to this new music? He's got a drink,
you gotta drink. I gotta watch y'all he drank and

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watcha yo, y'allmost got some weak drinking face. So are
you listening to this new generation? I try not to
be the ones that because the old guy that. But
remember when we came up, well, when y'all came out,
everybody was on y'all too. Yeah, So I just try

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to I just try to support the big guys, just
you know, try to teach in business. It's different, Like
I don't really buy it. But when you're in the
club and they played you like like that uh f
F nigro free song by the Girls, Yeah that should
go hard. That should go hard, Yeah far that should Yeah.

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I was in the Groner that was that that should
go hard. Yeah, yeah, so it go hard. So I
try not, like you said, trying to be the old guy.
But I like our ara. Like I actually like the
area before us because because it showed a lot of Yeah,

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because I'm from Look, I'm from Jersey. So we started
off with you know, Grandma to fly l L Run DMC.
But then when I get down to Texas, you hear
ghetto boys. And then when I go to l A,
you hear Snoop and draining him. And then when I'm
moving down south here jam and the press. So like
music as a whole, but I like I like our
area because because it was the hardest. It was all

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about It's all about lyrics, lyrics and style, and everybody
had a different stuff every week and sounded like, yeah,
everybody has a different style. So let me ask you.
In basketball, have you ever seen somebody that said, man,
if I would play against him, he like he would
mind you? Are you anyway? You never got a drink

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because at one point, at one point, you might be
mad at me for this. At one point I did
see at the beginning, in the beginning of his career,
I did see slight version of you in Dwight Howard.
He was nice after you get you. Yeah, So when

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he first came out and thought he was I thought
it was a little bit better, more and more athletic. Okay,
I'm more hip hop and more street, but he was
a little bit more. You could jump higher. So a
lot of times when I criticize these guys, I'm really
giving them the answers to the test, but they don't
know it. Like I kept saying about the way all
you gotta do is fifteen. But you know these youngsters
that favorite thing to say. Yeah, you know, these youngsters,

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their favorite thing to say, Oh, you're hating but why,
I'm like, yo, if you do what I tell you
to do, you can be up there. But he never
listened like I I when when people criticize me, I
can stop time. Like I said, okay, is there any
truth in that criticism? Like shot good out? You were
thinking this way? Yes, because my father is a drill Santa,

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so I heard it all. Everybody thought this why you
went to the General Assurance because the surgeon that's twenty
who stole my cup when this guys get your boy

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said you can stop time at the top of time.
So shock did album with Nori Nori killed shocking album
stuff was that and got the j Yeah he killed me? Yeah,
I can't say nothing, not mama, why like he killed me?
Like they just say Shot can be the best guy
in the world, but he's not a great fruit free

(18:18):
throw shoot him. Can't be mad at that. That's facts, right,
We want to free those right nowthew Now when we
started this, when we started this, we thought to ourselves

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because it was this wasn't like when when when podcast
first started, it was like for nerds. So when we
started this, we was like, we want to be like Shaq,
Kenny and Charles because sha Kenny and Charles is so respective.
Is because you guys, was in the locker rooms. You
got rings. Kenny Smith got rings he's from practice, and
Charles he got something like rings. You know what I'm saying.
But y'all keep it real because when y'all cultique another player,

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it comes from a level of love. How did that originally?
Because was it was it Kenny um Charles? Was Kenny,
Charles and the other guy at first and then you
got added on? Correct, how did this? How did this?
It was Kenny and Ernie first, then Charles got it
on and I got at it all. Look, they already
had a great show. So the first year I came there,
I was trying to be on my professional Brian gumble.

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It was terrible. So the producer t K putman to
the side and said, we didn't bring it here for
that ship, and I want you to be shock. I
was like, oh, you want me to be me? So
you know, once one, once I started doing what I do,
you know, the show became better. But but Ernie, Ernie
is the guy. Ernie is a guy. But we do

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you guys respect the show because you know, Shaq was
a bad motherfucker, Barcley was bad. Kenny got two rings,
so we was a bad mother he two rings on. No, no,
he's bad. But I ain't gonna drink that. So what
you're smoking? A cigarette? Leste, I'm a road model. Worry,

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worry the worries out. So out of South of do
it was a cigarette? Okay, I'm sorry, speak flipping around bousing.
So we said about Papa Jars. Did we speak about

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five guys? Because we got five guys? Did you get
that right? I used to own a whole bunch of
five guy but I sold them, so Now I started
a fast capsules called Big Chicken, Big Chicken, Big Chicken.
So we started off in Vegas and we just sold
two d fifty locations. So but no, no, you. So

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the reason why like stuff ain't updated because I don't
want it to see him. I'm up here bragging all
the time, so I don't like. You know, one time
I I do this, I do this, and my mother
didn't like that. So so a lot of times I
don't really tell people what I'm doing, Like who owns
Muhammad Ali? Who owns his daughter? Who owns Maryly Monroe?

(21:27):
Who owns Forever twenty one? Okay, that's what you talking about?
Who your own? I need to sneak. I don't like
update because it ain't even about that for me. You know,

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it's about a young kid who didn't have anything and
two people who weren't really that small, even I'm not
saying they were in a smaller day. I have college degrees.
It's you can be anything you want. And I was
watching the program a matter of fact, was the point
guards want to see point guys, and you talk about
how all the old JS protected young Same for me

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when I was in the shoutout to Moustafa and why
do and soultiing I want to hang out with the
boys are like, man, take your streets over. There was
a little older than me, so I didn't get to
see the drug protect him, but I got to see
the drug deal was personally protecting, like Kenny Aneson used
to come outside and he used to send him upstairs

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like buying my you know what, I'm sitting them upstairs,
like you cannot hang out. I had and I had
two uncles that was cops. Uncle Drome and Uncle Mike
didn't play the A so they let them know if
I see you all around, Diesel, it's gonna be some trouble. Yeah.
So it was, it was. It was all good, all off,
and you were cop in Miami Dade County. Star was
until you just blew my covers? How was? How was it?

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Because I remember, like us just betting on you, just
breaking these rims, Like was there people that broke rims
before you? Darryl Dalkins was the first one I saw.
But this is why I started dunking, because you see
how the big men played out shooting jump us moved
that saw that like that one day in Texas and

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only lost one game in high school in two years.
So one day I got I got thirty nine and three.
I'm working on my crossover. I lay a dude up,
finger roll and miss my father. This drill start you
from walks on the court during the game, call the
time out. I was like, man, call the time out,
so till about go outside. What are you doing? I said, Man,
I'm working on my doctor And before I can say

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dr J, he smacked the ship on me. Webb ain't
no dr J b s. So from that point on,
because I was mad at him, every time I dunk,
I tried to tear the room down. But what I
know is when I started dunking and kicking my legs
and everybody else would be scared, He's like, see, motherfucker,
that's what I'm talking to myself. That's when I saw.
When I started dunking like that, channeled that channel. Yeah,

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I mean, because you know this thing was played big,
play strong, because like I'm I wanted to be the
next Matchic Johnson. It's like handles crossover, not trying to
get my yeah. So I man, I was playing like that.
But once he uh, once he told me how the

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channel and injury. Then you know, it became something different
because back then there was that was the thing they
should say. Big men don't have a handle, you know
what I mean. So and So, you know, I think, yeah,
you were like one of those. I was the first
go close to Soho. This is one of the one
of the wonderful stories I've ever heard on the internet.

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Oh you just got so sentimental, Stevie wonder. Yeah, I
want to hear the story because we left in the
same building. Describe this story's parking front. You can parking

(25:21):
front or you can parking about him. I'm already in
about elevator, she said. Stevie's called I didn't see that,
but he got but he got on the elevator door
and I'm standing in the corner. I see him. I
don't want to He's like, what up, Diesel, you get
this button? Then he got the floor and I'm like,

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you know, he came in. You know, the first he
came in, he looked, he was up and yeah you
did like this, and you know, I'm just in the corners.
You're like, what up, Diesel. It was like, I didn't
say that, and they gave me the same reaction to

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yall get you. That's a good y. That's one of
my favorite twitters, like, well he pressed the bat because
there's brail on the buttons. That that was someone on
Twitter was saying, and we don't even know. We wouldn't
know me. Yeah, we wouldn't know, right, I let you
know Shock that I believe Shock believe. I'm trying to

(26:24):
make sense of it. I'm Stevie a little so I'll
be spreading the room out right. Let your listening. He
was driving. Someone say I might have said, I might
have said, I might have fabricated the shack story. I said,
Shock seemed driving, and I might have made him the
driving part. But the story is still the same. Stevie
wonder to see a little bit so five guys and

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used to only to be taking the five guys burger off,
and then we messed up because we told him. And
it's how you know, if you got boones on working
and I ain't gonna low the pop eye Buscus, did
you have to pop out sandwich when everyone's going on

(27:11):
because they had cocaine in it? You know that? Right?
Alleg you just drink you that you know, I don't
give you drink you that all allegedly, So how my
eyes look look like I've been dragging? Do you miss
about basketball or do you miss you don't miss no,

(27:34):
because growing up, I watched all the karate movie you
know how the karate movie starting. I did that. One
time I got in trouble. I did. So I'm gonna
answer your question and let me get into the stuff.
So you don't remember remember growing up, like when when

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you first watched karate movies. The Karate Master so crazy
nobody and get to him. That's how it was for me.
Like I used to love you and and now I
get to face them. I used to love Jordan. Now
I used to get to face him. I gotta try
to beat him. I gotta try to beat Buklet. So
for me, it was about beating these legends. I don't
already see nobody that that's gonna that's gonna make me,
you know, get crazy. Now back to the story. So

(28:18):
when y'all mingles, because you know me, I don't really
pay attention to nobody because I know what I'm gonna
do to you, right, So I don't really pay attention.
So it's like this dude was coming. So I got
on TV and I was like, y'all mainging you want
to battle the great check food? Well, I will see
you Sunday. Yeah yeah, I said, listen, I don't care
what y'all saying. Well, I grow back. I had to

(28:43):
bring a movie in the show. But no, no, no, no, no,
he didn't. But I said, no, no, no no, every Saturday,
every Saturday from eight to twelve, I'll be up watching Noria.
It's like I'm strategy strategy. I had to bring like

(29:04):
a tape and be like, so it was, but I said, okay,
I won't. I wanted to do it again. And you
don't miss basketball now, you don't cut it on because
you don't the games. It's like you watched, we watched

(29:25):
the game. You can take the game. Do you miss TJ?
And let me ask you that I do you do
the era that from It is not the same right now.
It's not because he like cut from the creep digging area,
So you ain't carrying no crez sat. I used to
in college. In college, so so with the DJ thing

(29:45):
like when you don't do something, people think you can't
do it. So I started then my first I had
two s P twelve and the gym and I mixer.
I started with that, I started start with I started
B Street was my first album, rough like going back
and forth and scratch the one is a fresh Like
you know, I started doing all that, then I got
away from it with a when I started rapping. But

(30:09):
then I was dating this girl. She took me to
the E d M concert. It was a half a
million people out there jamming. So I'm like, man, this
is nice. But then I'm reading the article one day.
Then DJ make fifty million dollars, I'm tapping into some
of that. So so when I first came in, they
put me in the celebrity DJ think like cool, Like

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they didn't know what I could do, Like they didn't
know it's a real DJ. So that the whole year
I was doing BS clubs and b as Pool party.
But now I'm doing people. I'm doing like a hundred
fifty stadium practice. Before you started going for those d
M parties, Well that's easy because you're just you know,
putting yourself together. But like you know, when we DJ,

(30:52):
like we djay, but you gotta still read the crap.
You gotta read the crap. So you know, like a
lot of these guys already had their sets in, so
like I'm coming in and be like, I'm gonna start
with this, the start with this. Yeah, but you ain't
got that. You only gonna do like Thedium show like
straight they all they don't really kid, I did the show, lallapoosa,

(31:14):
I gets to do with DJA when I do dum
and say, y'all don't like the stuff that I But
what makes my thing special because I put a lot
of hip hop in that hip hop England, so dove
step is similar to hip hop and in the sense

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and in the since that the BPM was the same
sevent five eight ninety, so I do a lot of
like popular hip hop song like like I got to
stop them open shot like the DM everybody know that.
And then I did hard Harbason you know my boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're gonna try to kill, We're gonna try to give.

(31:56):
So look, we got a game to be played on
on this all the time, go a quick time and
fly right. Usually play with a drinking game. But what
we could do is we could have Sunny d who
we call your little we call baby Shot. We call
them baby shot, Baby Shot. Tell us look like shocks
you'll take a shot you, so we'll take these shots. Well,

(32:20):
he'll take a shot for you. You mean he's drinking.
He's drinking that good? Alright, you want to go? That's
fine water Oh speaks for this one Japan. I'm big

(32:49):
and const combos. Yeah, you don't fall for that though,
like get off the poppy. No mind s no mon
s mind yes made no no no no brom Okay, drink,

(33:14):
get myself, can put my drink up there? Your drink
yall want you don't want to know what I've been drinking. Yeah,
we do this and that's what's up. We're gonna support that.
I'm right the girl? How did me walking head with
so Fiji? What is my fam? What's my father? What's

(33:34):
his name? Who wrestle with the dreg He got a
new name, Draymond Brown, Draymond remember if you if you

(33:55):
ask them both be politically correct. Then he drinks for you,
So he drinks for you. So you ain't to drink,
but we drink. We're gonna leave him out. K Yeah,
Tupac or DMX old do you have a Tupac story? No?
I don't have a two. I will seeing him all

(34:17):
the time and I saw him one time in my Jersey,
but he had a lot of people around him. He
just gave me the I Love two Park when he
first came out on the grounds. After that his album, Yeah,
just yeah, that that album. And I will see him
and our thing is hip hop and the athletes. We

(34:40):
all have respect for each other because we're all going
through the same thing. So I will see him a lot.
And he just gave me the same with Nipsey, like
I never went. I wish I could just shake his
hands Here's but they would always just give me an
I would, you know, always give them that. So so
I like him. However, DMX was very nice to me.
One time I threw a party for DMX and then
is poorly promoted. It was thirty people there. That man

(35:03):
performed for an hour. The man performed for an hour
for me. So you gave it. Might be shocked because
every time both drink your drink because you know what
shot too, because I experienced this with you as well. Um,
because sometimes we be giving people. Cut the record of
the shot last year. Hold I think the big glass,

(35:28):
hold on, hold on, hold on. Shout out to my
boy in my Tumbo No No, No, no, no, no, no, drink,
hold on, hold on hey, and after you leave, if
I see you driving, I'm gonna put them things I

(35:59):
did the first the first year I met shots, which
you'll usual to do. And I don't know if you
did it on purpose or you know he was doing music.
Do you just go just grab your whole head? You
just like to me, a couple does. That's because because

(36:20):
I love you, yeah, I and you helped me become me.
That's I don't know, real talk. Music calmed me down
and gets me hype. That's living in the l A
death row had me on fire going to the game,
you know, snooping and they just because because they was
hard and I had to be hard. So music I

(36:41):
just love, like like again I do, but I'm not
a crip to California. Yeah, I'm not gonna do so.
But okay, I love you guys. I appreciate you guys.
And you know the problem with some of us is
when we get to a level we don't still show love.

(37:02):
I'm always show love to you guys. So I'm like,
I don't look like I forgot what Rabbit said it,
But everybody be every like there's a whole bunch of
money right here. I'm gonna get mine, but I want
you to get your like it was. If this room
is money, I don't want it all. I want Draymond
Brown to get something. You know. I just hey, so everybody,

(37:25):
so so. The reason why I grab you and bring
your head to my heart because you're close to my heart.
I love you and I've always loved you, you thin
scar face ice Cube, both because you know, because you

(37:48):
know why. I'm gonna tell you what a lot of
times when clips get put out right depends on how
they cut them. And I know both the gentleman's I
never wanted to see. Like I'm being respectful. I know
him both. It's actually really hard pick Like I've been
knowing Brand for a long time. When I first met
Brand Houston, he took me around. I Q has been

(38:10):
nothing but nice to me. So I don't want to
go him. And then you guys, not you guys, but
your editors put it out like shot chooses like we
don't have, we don't do like, babe, don't drink. I
don't know what you're doing. Hold on, let me say
you let me do bigots shot, no bullshit shot. This

(38:41):
is the shot. This is that deadly. You understand this
is but you need to drink. You used to drink.
I do drink, do drink, but not in public because
I can't do nothing to jeopardize my mother's empire. So
I'm not gonna sit here and say I don't drink.

(39:01):
Me and my father used to drink after all the
championship games you can put put on. So if I'm
at the house or drink, but I'm not gonna drink
at a restaurant. Didn't jump in the car and then,
because you know, my father always used to tell me,
if you mess the money up, your mom ain't gonna
have a house. If you mess the money or your
mom ain't gonna eat. You're the one God has chosen

(39:23):
you to get this family out of brick City. So
if you mess up, so I don't I drink at
the crib, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna drink
on the show. I'm gonna drink on the show. But
it's that what do you say? It's beanished slow? This
is a would you have to get into owning like

(39:57):
a company, because I'm on it right now. I don't
want to talk a better moment to Killer Company that man, Okay,
I want to be avery like yo, man, I got
Let's go to the next one. All right, are you ready? Okay?

(40:17):
I got this one in wait O wood Chang Clan. Okay,
I got this because I got the trade o. Do
you be your bisin Markey? Hold On listen was my
joint hold on because I hear they're feeling nas and
I'm feeling the documentary about business Markey. I was on
the phone him for half an hour yesterday. He didn't

(40:39):
even bring it up. I was so bissed up. Little bits.
Markey is one of my favorite I got. I got
of me. I wanted to play business Mark when I
first like Lost Weight and they was saying that they
was doing the juice cool thing. I came to audition
and I told him I would gain the way back
just to just to be bish. I love this And
he was to me business, the first person to bring comedy,

(41:00):
interact and business, the first person that made me laugh
and and and party. And he was talented too, and
he thoted, oh Penny Hardaway, well, Kyrie Irvan Penny Hardaway
and stop it, stop it, no explanation. Stop wants my

(41:20):
face is. I think he's feeling that I'm about ready.
Yeah you go. You had this one red Man and
methem Man Red Man Breake City. But I'm gonna say

(41:41):
both because because you know, I did an album with
what was that at my Dad? No hooks? And methem
Man is always again I'm the shack. But you guys
have been my favorite rabbits. So when I call the answer,
we break bread. I'm gonna do both. The red Man
is from my hood. He's family. Yeah, brick head, what

(42:05):
was that sunny? That's diesel side A little ready, I'll
be ready, Okay. Put your boy Michael Clark Duncan looking
up up, thank you, okay, because I ain't trying to

(42:36):
get your locker d everyone live New Jersey Drive or
Juice New Jersey Drive. Juice was cold on Queen the
Teeth or empty like Queen from the City. I just
want this one. I don't know we're gonna go with

(42:57):
this one. It's one might be a little different, Big
Daddy Kane, I can go big both both because drink
say that again. I like that right now? Do you

(43:19):
should bottle? It looks like liquor bottle when it's do
a commercial and quick. I'm looking at the cameras, say,
Mama said to high Drink and then you do with
your Spanish voice. Mama, that's what I'm saying. Mama, you
have run with a commercial. Right there we go, Mama
saved the high drinkcho you know, get your fill from

(44:10):
the press. Priss. You're all crazy, Okay, okay, okay, I

(44:32):
said you're texting joke. You're just gonna be the best
show you ever yo. Man, oh man, are you ready
to trying to switch Ja Carros Ja carross one? Both?
Oh cool, Yeah, that's what you get the shot from me?
Thank you? Both happened to the girls. Man, we don't

(44:55):
have to tell us that we have this boy. We
need you the girls and drakes. Hollo. You got the

(45:28):
next one you like to do from breaking it too? Yeah?
Next one? You want me to get that? You have
to wrap City? Huh you're on TV wraps to wrapp
City on the base the base game. Okay, take the

(45:48):
next one. And I was on the basement by the
way be Street and Crush Group. I was actually in
B Street. I'm gonna show you to clip. Okay, I
know you're believe I know he wasn't you got it,

(46:09):
Alonzo Morning or Dwhite Howard Alonzo all right, Mr Prince,
he was taking jet at at one point, right cool
you No, never never to throw it out there. She

(46:31):
actually she actually when when I was with my girlfriend
actually got in trouble. I was with my girlfriend. She
had a show in Orlando, and she called me on stage.
We've seen the clip recently, was like, yeah, yeah, I
got she was grinding on Penny from Good Times. You say,
like that, get back. M J showed up at my

(46:57):
house and tried to buy my house and Orlando just
he just showed up at the door to wait, you
real estate, No, just banging some dudes. Hey man, Michael
on you So I just big seventy grand us and
I had a bed that fits fifty people. You're looking around.
He's like, I want to buy the house. It was like,

(47:17):
it's not for sale. And then I went to his house.
This dude had a real zoo at his house, like animals,
a real Sperris wheel and that and everything. So I'm
gonna go with both on that one. Wait, but he
said you had a bed to people. Yeah, yeah, Well
I didn't know how. I don't even know how to
answer that means, oh, I still have left. Still still

(47:43):
got the bed. Okay, he said, still got the bed?
All right, Sonny, don't be so excited. Listen some base

(48:04):
in your boys. I'm so sorry. Sorry, I'm just because
it's Jersey both ways. Lorda's underground and naughty by nature
nature trash. You took it back? Trench is one of

(48:26):
the chief rocket yeah, man, yeah, both both. I'm sorry,
tigr shout so you too, you too my back? Yeah?
The name of it again. Uh, it does sound like

(48:48):
someone want to drink. But good, all right, come on,
I'm going back to that good you drank it? How
does it repleash itself? I just keep thinking this. Mm
hmm okay, pat Riley or Phil Jackson, Phil Jackson, no

(49:09):
explanation needed. Well, I won three with with with Phil
m C or d J. You skip skip, that's excess
for your ahead, so's to do it. He's going down. Really, Yeah,

(49:30):
I didn't think that. I taught you to show. I'm
gonna take a shot for just thinking wrong. Crowd with you,
because you know it's only so people asking why d J.
It's the only thing that reminds me of a game seven. Yeah,
that's that's a drug energy. You know what's crazy when
people ask me about this. This is the only thing

(49:50):
that when when we drop an episode, is the only
thing that reminds me of going platform. It's the only
thing drink to that ain't much. I don't know. I
got one black, I was black. I got four gold outs. Yes,
I do. I've I was the first one to recognize.

(50:11):
I never know that. I just called it wasn't you
went playing, No, No, it wasn't off. It took a while.
Platinuma absolutely Miami or l A Miami. Yeah, okay, yeah,

(50:38):
Jack City, you're king of New York, New Jack City,
Nino Brown. Yeah, get the next one, the source of
double X of source, because they gave me three and
a half mics. I thought it was this ship it
was it was the sources out now the game. I'm

(50:59):
gonna get five mix Gamel. I'm crazy. I only heard
the one. He shoted me out and said, drink Champs through. Yeah. Yeah,
it's crazy. Yeah, and hold on, y'all need to start
showing push your tee a little bit more respect to
the world. Push your t crazy boy Michael Jordan's or

(51:25):
Lebron James, Michael Jordan's Kobe Bryant or Dwayne Wade Kobe Bryant,
you don't get your John Muran looking to ask about it?
Come on going to Peter Guns. Peter Guns. Loyalty. This

(51:58):
is the last one. Everyone thinks because I got a
pitch drinking all this because I got a pitch drinking
all this. Okay, everyone said, true question is really not
loyalty or respect loyalty because when you're boys, you don't

(52:20):
have to respect each other's decision. Like my best friend
told me, don't bring the water because you'll had the
water like they ain't got the water. Yeah, so you
know I kind of so I kind of disrespect to him,
but not not believing them. But I'm always be loyal
to them no matter what. You know, we're arguing, fight
all the time, but the loyalty is always are great

(52:43):
taking this wait, were you coming back? Comes? I'm taking
this shout to that for let just right in this cup. Yes,
I don't stop, so shack. Who is who is more

(53:10):
competitive in your opinion? You want me drink, I'll drink
for no reason? Who is more competitive in your nation?
I mean, well, Kobe or or Jordan? Because I don't
you you see Jordan's and you can see the competitor.
But Kobe was a different animal. Like I used to

(53:32):
see Kobe dribble and shoot without no ball for hour
or like shadow boxing, and then go out then do
the same move you Kobe. Kobe had similar attitudes, like
Kobe wanted to be the best ever. I wanted to
just be the best at killing you because I was

(53:54):
never the guy that's oh he's the best, big man.
I wanted to be the most dominant band when when
I walk in, I want people to change the rules.
People scared, people going like this. I mean, but Kobe
is like, I want to be the best ever, and
like he is to practice four or five hours to day.
I'm not doing that because my attitude was, what why
am I practicing four or five hours for you? Who
are you? I already know what I gotta do. Just

(54:16):
bought my mama a new house and she got to
keep it, and you ain't gonna take that away from me.
So you know, there's a lot of oh, shot, I
didn't work out hard enough, and now I know what
I gotta do. It's all right there, Yeah, it's all
right there. Because um, like they say, like like like
like like Kobe was like it was just all about
the win for Kobe. Like but when you look at

(54:38):
Jordan's story and they say that it's all about that.
But then the one critique that everyone says about Lebron
James and they always say that he didn't have the
killer any sting. So I have a question for the panel. Yes,
when when he needs he needs average sixteen points this
year to pass up Koree Do? Yeah, so if he

(54:58):
passed up the great Korean Do with your barring points,
does that make him the best player ever? No? All right,
so long? Okay, no you say no? So if somebody
is better than me and I passed them up, are
they really better than me? Just asking? And I love
these conversations. I like you know, actually, I think different

(55:20):
people have different answers depend people. Okay, because how can
you how can you say you got the dopeest yacht
when he pulled up in a yacht two hundred more
feet than you. He's sure, y'all? Really do? I know
you've got a helicopter pad and all that, but this
ship four floors don't get better? You're sure about that?

(55:43):
I'm I'm just asking because you know, if you don't
have killer interesting, how you get thirty eight points? Yeah,
I'm just asking, just asking. So I mean, I'm I
can't wait to hear all the experts and you know
what they said, Jordan's the best ever to me, it
happens like that to me. To me, Dr j is

(56:08):
the best severer, the best ever because he started and
then you know Comcaine Magic and then Mike. So I
think when we have these conversations, we need to go
by Eras. But it got a different best ever to
to me, Lebron, I mean, excuse me. To me, the

(56:29):
reason why Jordan is the best ever is because he won.
He never really lost on the final six. But the
reason why the truth. For me, I like people who
go through adversity, and I think Lebron is the best

(56:49):
st ever because I really believe that stuff that Lebron
does Jordan cannot physically do. There's two different Like let's
go listen, I got don't enjoy this name. I don't

(57:14):
enjoy this now I'm gonna winever. I'm pot team Jim Jake.
But what I'm saying is Lebron like for me. For me,
for me, I love the the you know the assist game,
the rebound game, the scoring points. He you know, he
doesn't mind letting someone else someone else's assists, whatever the

(57:38):
case may be. And that's what I like about this
conversation because they can go all day to make different points.
Because if Lebron was about points, because I'm gonna tell
you something that Lebron has always been. Joe answered my question.
But when that man passed up Kareem is here the
best ever? Yeah, yeah, listen, I ain't gonna lie to you.

(58:02):
I love Lebron. Like me personally, I think Lebron is
our version of Jordan's he is because I think I
think this year, this is my first time like being
disappointed but then not making the playoffs because I just
want people to know. And I always said this, you
go on my Instagram, I always said I'm a New
York Laker fan. I always by the way, by the way,

(58:26):
I get killed for it, by the way I get
I got killed for moving for you for years Jersey
on Jersey, that like New York, New York. So I'm like,
I just I just love Showtime from Showtime to y'all ship.
I was just like I just couldn't I couldn't stop

(58:46):
working with the Lakers. Now, did I adapt the l
a lifestyle? I didn't do all that, but I was
and I had never seen that, Like when you and
Kobe had that run, Like yeah, it was like, I'm president,
how do you say president? Unpresident? Who's the mother? Who's

(59:10):
the most dominant big man? Oh, the most dominant big man?
Everybody I know? Person? I know? Who else? Bill Russell?
And who else? My mountain? Will and Will? I mean,
so you know when people say those three names, I
don't mind. But if I would have passed up Will

(59:31):
Chamberlain and points, I came up and said, nope, me, yeah,
only because I passed him up in points at me
and I don't want to hear nobody else's name. But
he got more points. So you know when you say that,
what I'm saying, I want to just tell people standards.
But everybody looking standard is the standard. Everybody looking standard,

(59:53):
everybody looking at the rings, I mean points for this
and that. That's the only thing that everybody could agree on.
That's what I'm saying. So but but but I'm just
be let me just be honest, to be clear, It's
like we have the same conversation in hip hop and
a lot of people you know, always give it to
like a Drake or some such. But people always say,
whoever got the most money is the goal? Yeah, but him,

(01:00:16):
that's him. But but if you got the accolades, think
that makes sense. Oh hold on, let me finish the accolades.
That matches the money. That's why there's no one that
could definitively say jay Z is not to go. It's
because one, he has all the accolades to prove it.
And then too, he has all the other accolades to
prove it. He has the big house he has to be.

(01:00:37):
How can you not say he's to go? You know
what I'm saying? How can you not like what his
wife is? You know what I mean? And I hate
saying that. I hate saying his wife because to me,
it takes away we actually is like he was that guy.
She deserves her own. But because you because drink again.

(01:01:17):
And that's why hip hop and basketball is like you
can have this conversations. What's your best who who the artist?
Who you know? Soon? What was what? What was your relationship?
He was a dog? He was He's probably one of
the only guys I couldn't punk like about blocking shot,
Like most guys blocked this shot, they won't come back in,

(01:01:39):
and he come in every time. And he Actually I'm
upset at him because he messed up history. Because the
year that we were fourteen and one, I wanted to
go six I was so mad upset. I wanted to
go sixteen because there was some other stuff going on
with somebody's and I was like, Okay, I'm about to
show y'all that I slash we the best Laker team
ever because I get tired of here and that was

(01:01:59):
like a team was better. So something about to prove it. Deal,
And like if we would have went sixteen, and I
can both, we can boastly say okay, Magic and Korean
ain't going sixteen, and oh you know what I'm saying
like that, So we underestimated in that first game and
I think he hit us for fifty one. Yeah for
fifty one, the one where he stepped over Derek he
get hit. Yeah, I mean, but you know we're still

(01:02:22):
win fifteen one. But I wanted to go sixteen and
oh and that I was he was up and held
still come back in. Yeah, we're still only little man,
only little Jordan was like that too, So Jordan's so
I've only I can probably say I only been dunked

(01:02:45):
on three times in twenty years and times. Jordan's Derek Coleman,
the dude named Tim Perry, and I got a lot
of dunk buys. But I'm talking chest to chest, yeah,
like what you want like that. I don't love that
posted but he got me three times. So so next

(01:03:05):
time he came through, I had to lay him out.
But when I laid him out, I laid him out.
I went to help him up. He said, don't ever
help nobody up. That's what he said, because you know
he's also my fraternity brother shout out to Megan's fight down.
So I laid him minds. I'm like, you're not done.
Coming again. He was like I need and I said,

(01:03:25):
my my bad dog. He was like, I don't never
help nobody up. So like he taught me a lot.
And then so we beat them, and then next year
they came back and swept us, and he put his
hand on my shoulder and said, before he succeeds, you
must first learn to fail. And I didn't know what
that mean, and I was like, so I'm all summer,
me and Alex riding around. I'm pissed. I'm like, and

(01:03:45):
then I finally sat down to that before you succeeded,
you must first learned to fail. And I thought about it.
I was like, yeah, and you know we had to
fail a few more times and said, you know, for us,
when we get tired of failing, that's when we persevere,
you know, do something else. But why do you think
he told you not to? Because he knew I was
a bad guy because I was the last one to
beat him. And I know people gonna say, well, he

(01:04:07):
you know, he wasn't ready when he came back in
forty five. But it's only one guy that sent him
home in the playoffs, that's me. So but like he
he knew that, he knew I was coming, and he said,
but you know, the things I was gonna do is
the things he went through playing Detroit and you know,
all the grades to go through it. And I was ready,
but I wasn't ready because here we made to the finals,

(01:04:27):
like you know, we we we played Houston and I
kind of let down and the King was my it
was one of my favorite guys. And you know you're
supposed to show a person that you're competing against, you
show him respect by showing him none, showing him none.
But I showed him, but I showed him too much,
respecting you every thirty one, every but they swept us in.

(01:04:50):
But it also told me vibo lesson, if I ever
get back to the finals again, I'm gonna put on
a performances so crazy that it's gonna guarantee us someone. Okay,
So God comes to you, it says you got one
last game to play, and it's even with Kobe, Lebron

(01:05:11):
or Jordan's because when you have when you have friends
and you have discrepancies but they are not really discrepancies,
should always reach out to that friend. I work, I
work twenty one hours a day, and I was always

(01:05:33):
the guy like me and you've been boys how long?
How many times have a call you be honest? None? None?
My point that ain't right. At least a text shout
out d M something and I've and it hit me
hard as that year because before Kobe passed away, my

(01:05:54):
sister passed away, and I was always the I'll call
you tomorrow, and to go by this business, I'll call
you tomorrow. I'll call you tomorrow. I call you tomorrow
and then you wake up and they're not They're not here.
So that and so if I could just see him
one last time and we just argue bit play, I

(01:06:17):
would love to have that. So so to all the
people out there, if you had, you know, discrivity with somebody,
but you still love me about rich Out, you ain't.
You gotta see him, We gotta hug him and kids.
But just in the text, what's happening, because what was
thesty problem? There wasn't a problem all what you what
started it? Like, yeah, just you know, you've got two

(01:06:41):
guys on the same team, so it's not a problem.
Like some of my favorite stories, know, some of my
favorite stories to watch, or you didn't know that the
Brady Bunch had beef stories like that, like yeah, getting along. Yeah,
But but the moral of stories, if you've got to

(01:07:01):
alpha males, you're always gonna bump heads. Like me and
my boy we're bump heads all the time. We've been
from for twenty years. But the respect is still there,
you know. But and so that was the beginning of
the the Internet and all that stuff. So if I
say something and he says something that everybody who they
don't like Yeah, but no, I was in charge, right, Yeah,

(01:07:24):
there's a little clicking on the team. I had my
little click on my team. But the respect was always been, wait,
we ain't gotta get along. He wanted to shoot. I'm saying,
now that's been about you. No, I want to shoot.
And you know we had our little spouts, but that's
been going on since the Little League. But I always
tell people the story you're talking about would be better
if we have no championships. Bro. We got, bro we

(01:07:46):
got we got three in a row. And I want
you to look at this clip after the show first
championship we went, I put my hands up. It's thirty thousand.
Motherfucker's on the floor. Who the first dude to jump
in my arms? Thirty thousand? But we got beef. I
ain't got beef. We got we got disagreements. You know,

(01:08:09):
It's like if I've seen him with his family, ain't
gonna trip a drink over? Hello, Mr Vanessa high babyasics
uncle shot like this, But you argue. I got a
little brother. We argue. We fight. You know, I got
my favorite uncle Drone. We argue, we fight. But the
respect was always a respect. And then when I got traded,

(01:08:29):
that was a business thing. You know, you keep the
old guy and you're paying money, or you start all
over with the new guy. And I understood it was business,
so you know, I wasn't really tripping. So a lot
of people think we have problems. We didn't. And then again,
I'm the type of work. If I work, I got
to go home with the family. I ain't got time
to call you anyway. But I shouldn't be like that.

(01:08:50):
I should be like at least hey b Shaw, Hey,
Robert Lory, Hey Rick Fox. But I got working. And
you know when when when your friends are gone, take yeah,
take for granted, Yeah, because they don't do like the unions,
like high school unions. They don't do unions for championship teams.
How about like when people getting inducted in the Hall

(01:09:12):
of Fame. Dude, like did they invite your old teammates?
You can't be one too. So so for me, it
was my family, my boys, my mom, the first guy
that that gave me a chance. When I was in Germany,
So you know, d Brown want to say, yeah, I
was in Germany because I left North Yeah, we left,
we left. No, I was in place called hand Olaze

(01:09:44):
to take a trick for that man, Man, what's going
on when when Kobe won the fifth but he said
it that's gonna matter because this could look it's and

(01:10:04):
and you know what made us great. It's a competition thing.
I'm looking at the stat mother fun got thirty and
I only got nineteen. That but but if you got
two of the best guys in the league competing with
each other on the same thing, nobody can stop us.
And when we got to the finals, that's exactly what happened.
So my thing was, if I don't get fifteen, I'm
not representing dominant big man. And you know, I like

(01:10:26):
to tell you if I come home and got fifteen more,
I'm telling my house up, tearing my house up, because
now I gotta read noory my boys says shock that ship,
don't telling like like you know, like because because like
when you got people that love you and they keep
it real, they say hurtful ship. That's the truth for us. Yeah,
I'm like Mann Man shack shock losing it man shot

(01:10:47):
gets over twenty. But now you haven't feel like if
I heard Nor said, I gotta hurt me. But I'm
not gonna say but I heard I'm just gonna come
out and ball players Z Thursday. I up about it, lucky, Like, yo,
we get me telling things we were um we I
can't say we react, but I'm with Jay and the

(01:11:07):
whole going to State Warriors come through and so I'm
looking and they all kind of like walked past me.
But then they like, we think that was Nori with Jay.
So they all kind of like turned back around. And
when they turned back around, Jay is giving all of
them their stats. He's like, yo, bro, on Thursday night,
you should have passed the ball. And they're all like, oh,

(01:11:29):
they're all being ready, they face and moving and then
the next one comes Yallow, Steve Curtis Jallow Steve. He's like,
he's like, listen, let me just say something. You know,
I funk with you and Steve cars he see Carol
my bad. He's sitting there so red in his face
when Jay goes because when Jordan's said, are you gonna
be ready when I see you to the ball, and

(01:11:51):
He's like he's sitting there, his face is so red
because he's like, how the fund does Jay Z remember
when he's not talking about him, Oh, he said, my
head is playing and I'm sitting there like, oh, shut
up a cock. He used to play with you on
it and it's crazy like so so yeah, people really
be knowing that the stats no drop with Hey, don't

(01:12:23):
don't try to dance Shack trying to dance to Shack
like pall glaring with me. It's pretty got bad. I'm
a great story. But where his story was that? Baby Shack?

(01:12:53):
You don't. God, I love sad know you you tell
one hundred percent? No, I kid you not. He looked
at all the Golden State boards. They all came through.
He told him what each one of them on what
he did, And I'm like, how the funk you see
in the game we were right here, you were here together.

(01:13:18):
He wants to give you that. You want to mabe yourself.
I'm telling you hear yourself. Yeah, but you're kiddies used
to be neighbors and Beverly Shop. Yes, you're a KIDDI

(01:13:39):
used to hate kid come to high school that because
all you New York guys ranked you ahead of man
And I don't know why we were nice and I
was you got a point of need be yeah, no,
like I'll be y'all average go to be like number

(01:14:03):
three number that Conrad mccraig. Yeah, like, damn New York kids.
I always ring that a minute. Critics don't know what
they agree. It could beca the competition of the teage
up to the too. Yeah you're sure you didn't lose
the kidness? I think you did? Yeah yeah, and then

(01:14:31):
left shout out the left. Kenny Smith on the show,
it's kind of man, I bully everybody like crazy things
like when Charles give me mad like mom, y'all think
I'll be playing for my boys, like com back now?

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Then motherfucker's said one more bames here. He was like shock,
laugh because when you be talking to bothering chars about
the ring, I think he's not finding it funny anymore.
So again, people believe in stats, right and championships. So
when I say it's about the ring, my question is
how do you know? And that's what like you know

(01:15:13):
people have have you know, problems to him? Yeah he
was a great player, but how do you know if
you never went to that level, like like for example,
we could tell you how to go platinum, because if
you ain't never went platinum, how are you gonna tike
me how to go experience. We can tell you how
to rock a crowd. You ain't never rock a crowd.
How are you gonna tell if I also heard you
say one of the craziest, beautifuldest things. You're saying that

(01:15:36):
you wasn't the white man for your wife at that time.
And I've never heard of a man admit that a
man's job is to protect provided left right. But when
and then, like what I'm about to say now is excuse?
How don't make excuses? But you know, when you have
a lot going on, it's difficult, and I didn't do

(01:15:57):
what I was supposed to do, But I still love
us to care for us, to protect her. She's married
now and she's no. Yeah you mean because like when
you say I do, it's really to make them happy.
And she's happy now, so that that's all that matters
to me. Really is a beautiful that's beautiful man. And

(01:16:17):
you're a great father man. Let's talk about that for
a second. Man. And you told your kids one of
the beautifulest statements. Off with her, like you said, we're
not rich, I'm rich list shock you want we want

(01:16:43):
to go back to college? Hold on, I got I
got someone on the line. Real. I wanted to bring
on food, poosh the kids a big dog. Bro. I
love you, I love your brother. Know they give me

(01:17:04):
my they give me my flies. I want to give
you your flies because you don't want that got me
started in next. I appreciate your brother much respect, I
love you. How you doing doing? Uh, let's dude, listen.
I used to spit the bar. You like, No, we'll
go back in. No, go back in and say he said, Yo, man,

(01:17:25):
you want to respect, you gotta do it right like
it later that you favor, appreciate your just Hey, did
do right here? Drunk and baby shot? Baby shot? Let
me say so to him, reach out to you, okay, right,

(01:17:53):
all right, cool? No, I just got one thing to
say to you. The last move we bro, tell me
we got that. So like when I hear when I

(01:18:16):
when I hear one of my friends, I said, I
got shot on he said, yea. I was with Nicholas
one day from far and rocking and he brought him
to T and T. Nicholas asked him some NYC questions.
He made a call Nicholas with me and with Case
laid that same week World is bomb And there's so
many stories like that if you like walking in malls
and you're going to basketball camps. I remember, Kenny, I

(01:18:36):
think it's Kenney Smith basketball camp or something. You win
and just bought all the kids sneakers and showed up.
How do you develop that attitude? And why do you
do that? Everybody eats? If I see a hispanic rapper,
I want to get into business, somebody call you too,
and we give him because because they whoever they are,

(01:19:05):
they stick together. No just they you know, just just
figure out they stick together. So if I could help
somebody out, I can, And like if I could, you know,
and like I always buy kids who like you don't
have to be my shoes? What you want, wasn't Jordan,
wasn't They don't take money from stage because because that's

(01:19:26):
the thing, Like, I don't want kids because I that's
what those people do. You know, that's the part of
the police I work. I work, and then their crimes
against children. So I always tell kids, they don't let
people just coming off with your money and offers a
good police office. They're all good police officers, stop it,
most of them. Okay, okay, but but but but on on.

(01:19:49):
So my thing is because I'm trying to bring police
in the community back. I always tell people, so let's
not let's not get sidetrack, because if one rapper does
something crazy, they look at that one basketball player done
something crazy. So you know, I think, you know, the
individuals that do break the law should be handled. But

(01:20:12):
you know, like I deal with a lot of shares
and a lot of teach I mean a lot of
shares and a lot of chiefs. They really do teacher anything.
But every now and then you get somebody that gets outlined.
So the ones that get out lined, thin blue line thing,
that's the problem. The good ones won't do anything. So
so so, um, tomorrow we're supposed to this week's supposed

(01:20:34):
to have Derek Jetas. So I went and I looked
at that with Getus documentary. And one thing about their
genius documentary was that was unanimous. Was it pointed out
the fact that the racio, the racial you know, the
racial issues that he was addressing. And then it made
me think about like, you know Jordan, and and like

(01:20:55):
Jordan's never really addressing the racial issues until George Floyd,
and then you know, everyone actually who we actually wanted
to say things back in the days actually stepped up
from der to Jordan's I'm more of a I'm more
of a do than say yeah, like like something yeah.
I like the action. If something goes down, I have

(01:21:16):
the power of the ability to go to the police
station and be like, what was that about? What is
this about? So you know, like, uh, you know. My
thing is if you haven't been doing it, don't start
grabbing your phone and doing it now if you don't
mean it. So like I'm I'm more of a door.
I don't. I don't call and say, hey man, somebody
need to go buy those kids towards. I go do

(01:21:38):
it myself. I don't call them people say hey man,
somebody need to go into that hood and tell them
boys and shooting. I go by myself, like y'all need
to cut that out. They're watching y'all. Y'all over here
tripping and what are y'all doing? Dude? You know I've
done it every city that I've I've lived that. I
respect the guy to speak out. But I'm more of
a door. No, that's a beautiful thing. He's always good

(01:22:02):
about that life. So always am I smart A little
bit a little bit what the fun get my friends number?
He wasn't Besson. I got him part that I'm agreeing with. Yes,

(01:22:26):
we too, sir. But what so now you had this
luxurous deal with Rebox, Right, this is rumored that you
said that these sneakers are too expensive. No, I didn't
say that. I was. I was leaving the practice one
day and this lady with her baby shot Sha Shota kat.
But the mama wasn't smiling, and she's like and she

(01:22:46):
went off he live, just crying about the price. And
I stopped and I thought, I was like, she right,
and the pump rebox on, yeah, all of them, but
they were like to to something because because honey, because
everybody trying to compete with Mike. That was the business song.
I'm sitting there, I was like, yeah, she right. And

(01:23:07):
then I called Rebuke and I said, I'm gonna start
my own brand. And then we did a deal with
wal Mart. And since the first year was actually making
those leaks for you, right yeah, yeah, But then I
had something carved out work and do my own thing
on the side, so we we we started the dunk Man.
Yeah yeah, the dunk Man. So like, yeah, so you

(01:23:30):
know where I got that from, right, Yeah, Jordan did
the jump man because that's how you dunk And I
was like, you know what I'm gonna do, dunk man, working, work, working.
So since the NAETI time we did that, we were
probably sold over about four hundred down to No. Thirty
nine and below. So so where we come from, it's

(01:23:53):
not that we don't like cheap stuff. We don't like
stuff that looks cheap. So I I get so I
get this. To be straight, you created a business. I'm
sure you answers that you still made money selling it
at a lower price. So if you're invest in things
is going to change people's lives, you always get the
return of your money. For me, that that wasn't the
money thing. That to me, that was more of a

(01:24:15):
statement thing, like big time guys can be down here
with us too, because like sometimes when we get big time,
we want to go upstairs. So Wald, Walmart and Target
those are considered the downstairs market. So I wanted to
just you know, talking it was just warm Yeah, I
want to know all over Walmart, Target? Yeah, yeah, so

(01:24:40):
have you saw warm shacks? Jordan's no, not even no.
Jordan is a guy of selling juice. He's that's why
he's a big in there. But you know again that
that that play was about taking care of the babies,
because I remember, I remember when Jordan's first came out.
I cut grass, walk dogs, wash dishes, try to get

(01:25:04):
a job McDonald's. And then by the time I could
get to two on the dolls, the thirteens, but out
size fifteen, I still put him on any you know,
I put him on anyway. And that's where my toes
messed up. Now, So that's that's funny to hear you
say that, because I didn't you have to face this guy.
How is that like you favor up? So first time

(01:25:25):
I played it, I was terrified. It was he nice
to you, that's your idol. No, it's just that's Jordan's bro.
That's what it was like, like like high school cousin.
I never got dunked on when I was like this
dude could probably dunk on me right now. But but
so when he first came into a little stellar move
and he shot a shot, I was right there. So

(01:25:47):
now I was like, oh, like because I was like,
he's a guy, but I'm like I'm close to the guy,
so so af thought I got almost blocked this shot.
All that all the went away. Yes, humanizing, and then
you know the same thing with you and you like
in the garden. You know, you got to show up
in the guard. So you know, when I get to

(01:26:07):
the garden, it's like, nice to meet you, missing you
and put your hand up, nice to meet you. Mr
You and Pat no like that and Pat there, shut
your ass up, rookie. So I'm like like that, I'm like,
you know you don't that right, yeah, So so now
because I was like, man, it's Pat. But then when

(01:26:27):
he did that, I'm like, bro, you're trying to punk
me in front of my family, right Bro, I know
we're in New York for Jersey right over there to
us said okay, and then you know, the same thing
with him, so you know, the first guy, he got me.
But like you know, on that turnaround right there, I said, okay,
I'm going home and watch this table and the guy
to do and the next guy we played them, you know,
I block his turnaround. So so like so once I

(01:26:49):
blocked us turnaround, I knew I had him. That's funny
because that wasn't My very next question was everyone sells
these stories. Yeah, NBA players on here they tell these
stories about rookie Hazen, I didn't get haste. Shout out

(01:27:12):
to Scott Scotts. He's like, he's like carrying my bags.
I said, I'm not a rookie. I'm the franchise. When
Dennis Scott on the team, when you went to yeah,
my boy done to it. So like people making no,
I ain't doing none of that, man, I'm Diesel. So

(01:27:32):
the Scott was saying, hey, man, just carrying the bags
because when you know, just played again. So I played
the game with you, but I ain't carrying. I'm not
no bad carry because you know my thing is make
me carry your backs. You with my eyes, I'll carry
your back. So I'm like, I'm like the big guy
with a big guy mentality. I know you can probably fight,
but in my mind, I'm not gonna let no little guy.
What's all? So everybody little to me, there's like carrying

(01:27:53):
my ain't carrying no back. So you know, once I
started playing and you know, everything start coming and they
showed me a little more respect. But I didn't get haste.
You didn't never. But I don't know what you're talking about.
Is there anybody in the w n b A that
could beat Jack diesel on one on one right right now,

(01:28:18):
he's taking a shot to that. No man, no annoy
broke up. W n B A, what do you have
to say about Britney Grant and what you're going through.
I spoke mad, we did Russia. They showed it out there.
I was there with you. It's unfortunate. They're doing it

(01:28:40):
to the US to make a thing for the US
around the same Tithing's unfortunate. And I wish Mr Biden
would do a little more to get around. And that's
all I can say or not I have a solution
for the w n B A. So I don't know
if you know, and and and male's beach volleyball and
women's beach volleyball to that's Lord, just a little bits,

(01:29:04):
that is Lord. The only thing missing from the w
NBA to to the NBA game ms the dunk. So
I'm not saying Lord to nine feet they get so
they can dune. But but but but more of that,
not not just it's a little bit. So I think
if they did that to make the game more exciting,

(01:29:26):
because they got the handles, they got the shooter, they
got the showmanship, they just don't have the dunk. And
so just imagine that. So if you lower the rim
just a little bit, you're dunk man. Yeah what not?
You're right, Yeah, you're right about that, just for me
for real. Yes, those are plated rules. Why wasn't you
on the night to Dream Team? There was rumors that

(01:29:49):
you was down with Pepsi and it was a cold,
cold team. No, So Christian later, Christian he had a
better college career the man previous year. Yeah, because they
because they won championships. He wasn't the best player coming
out of college. He but but he had a he
had a better career. And I like, again, sometimes you

(01:30:10):
have to sit out and just be honest. Only best
players I should be on the team. But then I
don't want to be on team anyway if I ain't
gonna play, right. So, but so he had a better career,
So I said, okay, but you still keep it here
and it just drives you. So now I have to
ensure that I'm the first pick, right, I think. So
I was just you know, doing a lot. So I
went that whole summer and just played with Matthew Johnson

(01:30:33):
and just learned the learned the NBA game because because
it's a different game. It really is. When you've seen
that clip with m J and Magic, Johnson said you
just Ni, let's do it right now. I felt like,
y'all Niggs never leave the game. No, we don't. We don't.
And that's why when we criticize these young players, we
always gotta well, I would have did this, I would

(01:30:55):
have did that. It's just it's just what we do.
Like I wish I was playing now. Shout out and
shout out to Lebrown. He just showing that the two
year nineties seven extension Dame got two years one twenty.
Oh man, I wish I was playing right now, and
that keeps me young. But I don't miss it. But
I wish I was playing bro at that level period

(01:31:17):
because because this is I mean, because this is how,
because this is always did my country. If you're averaging
less of me and doing less to me, but you're
getting paid more than me, that was perfect. I'm just like, oh,
he got this, So now I'm going like, yo, if
you paid him this, but you're gonna get me. So
with me being shock, I'm not saying I'm better than
a guy, but for me being shocking, if you know

(01:31:38):
you're getting one twenty and you get ninety nine. I'm
gonna be up there too. For two years, the most
I made was seven, which was a lot of money
at the time, but one for two a lot of money,
A lot of money now money right now. I got
one point of money back then. That's what he said.

(01:32:00):
He got the platinum, the check for the for the
record broad Intelligent ship. You're embarrassing us. Better Redeve yourself
talking about talk about second year because we're getting the

(01:32:25):
Miami right right, yep, Miami didn't know we get. We
didn't and we got and it was shocked. So that
was an accident and we won. Yo, that was a
great year. But you can stuff. This is a lot

(01:32:47):
of stuff that happened. I want to talk about that year.
So that was an accident because after we how's it
an accident? I heard you say that before, because pat Riley,
even though me and Kobe had our problem, get there,
we're gonna be forever. I ain't leaving you, You ain't
leaving me. But then my contract is coming up. You
got to pay me and then business wise you're good. Shock,

(01:33:09):
But in four years you're gonna be thirty thirty. We
want to pay that much. We just understand. Yeah, the
friendly we just understand. But like one thing to understand
this business and growing up in the military, I'm used
to moving in No never, you can't business. So then
after we lose, I don't even get a data rest'
I'm eating cereal with my son and I'm watching Espen

(01:33:32):
because I want to hear what people saying about me.
So so I could add to you know what I
gotta do to summer shack and Ship said justizz yeah yeah.
So then they said, uh, Shock will uh the Lakers
will will take, will take. Well, we're listening for trades
with Shock. So I'm like, so, now man, because at
least give me the respecting comment and say, hey, you

(01:33:55):
know we want to you know, we want to change now,
we want to you know, we want to give it up.
But they didn't comment. So now man, So I'll call
him and said, okay, because I couldn't do it by myself. Always,
I gotta have yeah, like, I gotta have somebody with him.
I learned that with Pitty. I learned that with Pitty
because when I first got out but couldn't do so,

(01:34:16):
I needed another guy. So I remember watching playoffs and
I remember the Way giving it to Baron Davis, and
Baron Davis is my guy. But this d Way, he
came down to Miami, he killing, but he ain't got
nobody with him. So now I'm saying, Okay, if you're
gonna move me, that's where I'm going. Alright, y'all, just
ain't gonna send me where I want to go. I'm
going there. And then they said that pat Riley was

(01:34:37):
in the office talking to the Lakers before that. I
don't know if he's trying to get the job or
trying to get back, but they said he was there.
So they said after he left, they gave him a
car and said, hey, we want to move Shack and
he wants to come down there. And so they did
the deal, and I was down there, but I saw
in him, I'm mixture of Penny and copy in d Way.
So when I got down here, first conversation where he

(01:34:59):
has had all that stuff you heard about that forget it.
That's your team. You're the man. That's it's your team
because I've never seen always because my thing is I

(01:35:19):
always got to be in charge. And some people don't
like that. But I don't give a ship you don't
like it, it's mine right, so with him, because I'm
older anyone, I said, it's your team, though I'm gonna
show you how to win. I'm sure you how to
get a certain things, but that's your team. You need
me have bey then, So so it wouldn't be no
because it was already his team. I didn't want to
just come take it over. You don't really know me
like that. So it's your team. You go, man, you

(01:35:40):
want a team without you speaking to him when I
came out here, we met him beach and say, yo, man,
I'm here with me in the beach. You came huh
man man man. So we're sitting there and I told him,

(01:36:04):
I said, your team and I come to win because
you know, and also criticism motivation at that time three
but you know, criticism motivation. He left shock, you ain't
gonna win again? Like I need that. I don't. I
don't get soft and get better and respond back, I'm like, yeah,
I want to do more. You knew it was gonna

(01:36:26):
do it. Yeah, we actually could have wanted to hear
before that, but I died injury, and you know, we
lost the Detroit in game seven. But I actually could
have got too so now you have one of the
most liveliest, craziest performance I ever seen. You're performing and
then you just start on Kobe, tell me how my
ask tastes. I said, wait a minute, that was a freestyle.

(01:36:50):
Let's listen. Difference between the rapper and the MC. I'm
seeing that, I'm seeing and I got and I know.
I was at a comedy club. Okay, people expect that,
and people was laughing. Everybody had a good time back there.
As cold as an athlete. Yeah, but again, when you

(01:37:14):
cut it up and put it out, it was first
time and getting any crazy thing is the reason why
you need to get mad, because that's the same stuff
for used to do on the bus, right, We used
to have battles on the bus, you know, like when
you have people who think they know it all, they're
getting a bit. Oh, ain't know because I'm not gonna
get in trouble. I'm gonna get in trouble. What's gonna

(01:37:36):
I'm gonna get a spanking. Spank me though. I But
you know what I've learned in life, You're never worried
about other people's face. I'm just kidding. If you worried

(01:37:58):
about I'm just saying I believe you're right, sat Yes,
how the shock rose in comedy the shack in the fool? Like,
how did that go to do? So shocking the food is?

(01:38:18):
We want to We want to replace the word bloopers
because remember back of that everything. We want to get
rid of that word called everything shock in the fool
and it's just look to make people laugh. Our show
is also successful because they allow us to use humor.
We all know sports, we all know stats. But you guys,
you gotta work in the morning, so we're gonna keep

(01:38:41):
you up late. We want you to enjoy what you're watching.
We don't want you to sitting there going like this
mad because just a crappy game. We want to say,
a crappy game and to see us release that energy.
Sleep at your wife if you wake up, we have
a great day. We want to We want to help
people have a great day. Wants all the question as
show look like you know. So when I was watching death, comedy, jam, yes,

(01:39:10):
comedy and music calms me. I'm gonna go crazy, right,
So if I can laugh, I'm good. If I could
listen to the song, I'm good. So when they stopped that,
I saw an opportunity to do it, and we we
did it, and you know, it took off for a while.
I'm thinking about bringing it back. We need to laugh.
Someone's tried to happen. We just had Dasha Pelong is

(01:39:34):
going to be released soon. But I remember I was
happening like it's like disagreement because he's saying, you know
it was it was like a mass shooting that happened.
It was like, you know, I don't want to be
celebrating while mass shootings happened, and I felt I felt
the exact opposite. I was like, you know, I feel
your pain, but you know I'll send I'll send the

(01:39:55):
PJS when someone gets shot. We don't stay home. We
come outside the next day and still played double Dutch.
You come outside of the next day and still play one.
And I'm not I'm not trying to be insensive that
it was happening, but I'm also trying to tell you
that's just the reality of what happens. From we we
we are so we are sold already hurt. That a
little bit of hurt a're gonna stop us and even

(01:40:17):
the country as you can, you can't. That's that's something
that human poor like like no matter what, Like you know,
that's where chiplans came from. Chiplans and and and color
greens and all this ship came from. It's because we
had the worst of the worst of the less of
the lesson. We made the best of the best of it.

(01:40:38):
And I always feel like that. And also in this world,
we need to value the word respect more because again,
you know, haven't got different opinions that don't you gotta
be enemies, you know what I'm saying. So you know
a lot of times what what and then it goes
to somewhere don't need to go. So I'm big on respect,
Like you always have to agree with me because I'm
not the smartest guy. I'm not always right. But if

(01:40:59):
you do disagree to me, I ain't gonna try and
fight you. Everything's worth going that letter, That's what I'm saying. Yes,
I mean, but now it's it's just you know, going crazy.
We've seen a clip the other day, right, Dennis Robman
bothering along the morning. I thought, it's the funniest ship
in the world. He used to do that. He used
to the clip I saw the morning been down like

(01:41:25):
a question shock Kobe and Dennis robbing on the same thing.
Who's the biggest superstar. You can say that, you ain't
gonna hurt my feelings, just say superstar said, I'm gonna
say that he's the more colorful distract. That's what it is.
He if he played with us, I've seen this dude

(01:41:45):
play a full game. Don't take a shower, go to
the club and some of the baddest women I've ever
seen my life, don't go to his sex. Did you
say he not took the shower, did not take a show.
So he just so the game said, you can't bring

(01:42:10):
this is a game in seven thirty. We gotta be
there at six. He come in at six late for
the meat eating chicken and rice a right, take a
cold shower while we're talking and talking about going over
game plan. Didn't come out and play after the game,
put his tough on, go to the club and the
batties come out. I'm talking about actually, like I ain't listen,

(01:42:32):
I'm the shock I'm brought about. I ain't never seen
nothing like this, and this is and this is like
after every home game. It was a crazy day I
ever seen my life. And you got me and co
on the same team with him. But yeah, he's he
has a correct guess. I ain't never seen nothing like
that in my life. I'm talking, man, we need to
do wrong. How's your how's your? I want to, I
want to. I want to connect it to a Dennis

(01:42:54):
Roman thing. But after the game, you said that you
didn't practice smiling. Smiling was a look, let do it.

(01:43:21):
That's a shocking fool right here, ship he was trying
to over there. I just said that when you was

(01:43:44):
you didn't practice because you knew what the mission was.
But after the game, how was your ethnic? After the game?
And I say that because I feeled the copinant going
that book, he made a comment that he played against
Dennis hard, the game was hard, and then Dennis went
and ran five miles after the game. That's that's true,
that's true. That's a mashine. But after the game might

(01:44:06):
have gone got kids, you got family, and plus I
used to get beat up, so I didn't go home
and chill and launch a movie so I could recuperate
for the next day. But you know, everybody is different.
Everybody prepares their own way. But after I after I
gave you my two and a half hours, I gotta
take care of reality. Stuff got way for I got
kids like mom and all my boys and game were

(01:44:26):
gonna eat so but yeah, that's true, like he used
to do stuff like that after the game wrote five
months that's true and tim booths and timboo, Okay, that's true.
And then go to the club. Did they ever get
high locker? You know, I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah,

(01:44:51):
smoke and that is my guy. But I've never seen
that that so I don't know is legal though I
ain't told my week this medicine. I mean, this is
a cigarette. But I'm saying yeah, actually different because I gotta,
I gotta, I got a license just burn let me

(01:45:14):
see it. Yeah, I got because that worst everyone thought

(01:45:35):
you was a firefighter though you didn't do that. Man,
I swear did that too. But doctor, yes, I have
a PhD. But not a medical doctor. No doctor. What
I was gonna say, you're a doctor like doctor d
for you did you was doing like the thing like

(01:46:00):
you know like that? What did you get your doctors
in education? Yeah? Yeah here and I also did that
for the kids. Let me let me ask you something.
Why doesn't so many players it's it's like so much
of a rumor that when players finished, did they go
back broke, Like it's true. Get the Lante West right,

(01:46:21):
and we see we see this, And I'm gonna be
honest when I see the footage, I was saying to myself,
I hope that's not him. I hope this is a rumor.
And then and I'm speaking to because you know obviously,
like you said, music and sports go together. Speaking to
a lot of my NBA friends and they're like, that's
that's ninety percent of us. It's like almost seventy percent
of us. Because it's easy to do because they you

(01:46:44):
spend your money, you get used to spend. It happen
because the first words you need to understand is FICA
and you don't so like it's on the paycheck. So
if you're doing a hundred million dollar contract depending on
what states you get, ever, you ain't getting a Hunt
a million, but you spend like you got a Hunt
a million, and that'd be the problem, right, and so

(01:47:06):
so now you gotta cut that and that's it. Let's
just go California. So when I lived in California, like
I said, this another than California and signed that one
twenty for set seven. My first year check was twenty million.
When I got it and said ten nine. The first
check that you're supposed to see this million, it's set ten. Yeah,
FIA states all that, right, but I didn't realize that.

(01:47:29):
So I went by the house for five million. I'm
in a Rolls Rose joint and then my boy Alex
Tyson in there. He bought two. So I come in
into the next day and I'm going on Laker sweats.
Me and my boy Alex. We're looking around. I'm looking
like a bum. I don't like to wait. I like
to spend money, but I don't like to waste money,
so I don't want to spend four hundred dollars for

(01:47:51):
a car. So I'm like, hey, man, how much is this? Na?
How much this? So finally the old guy says, yo, man,
you asked about all these cars? Can you afod them? Now?
I'm pissed. I said, what the fund? You just said? Men?
So about three? That one, that one and that and
I want them dropped off. Moved a seat back today.
I want them drop So I got three roys roaster

(01:48:11):
that another drop So they got another million. That's six.
Trying to be a rapper trying to produce my own videos.
You know, I gotta pay Eric sermon on the board.
They're going another man that's seven. Now they fly to
Santrope and get on the boat on that. So I
spent I spent that ten million probably in three months,
the whole summer. And then my guy called me and say,
you know, you spend your whole check. I had money,

(01:48:32):
I had other money, but he said, you know, you
spend your whole check. Let's just make noise you spend
it tip. So I was like, what do you mean
they're like he said that bird man. No. Yeah, So

(01:49:03):
like I was, I was still paying said a lot
of money. I was paying attention. But I was like, okay,
now I need to really And then I was getting
married at times like now I really need to start paying.
It ain't about me no more. It's about these babies.
So but yeah, that's true. Six guys that you just
for you did you get did you have the right
team around you to help you invest properly. It's not

(01:49:24):
about the team. It's about you have to have You
have to have discipline and everything has to be structured.
So I don't have boys. My boys work for me,
we get money together, instead of me giving you a
hundred thousands. No, we could start a company and we
could do certain things. You could bring it in that
way to put them on salary, like start a company,

(01:49:44):
put them on salary, right that off and get some
of that back rather than just giving them money and
you know, just making the proper investments. I heard Jeff
Bezo say, if you're investing things gonna change people's lives,
invested things that's gonna change people's lives, you will always
get the proper return on your money. That's why I
did the Shacks You deal. That's why I did the
ring camera deal one kind, and that's why I did

(01:50:07):
Papa John. Like, let's say everybody, everybody, everybody loved piece
of he's skeeting over there. No no, because you know why, um,
we get to see people like you nas jay Z,

(01:50:29):
you know, live luxtrious life after the sport, after the game,
and it's all being like that's what you get watching
them like you Burry Maddrel Right, Like I saw jay
Z at the the Good State game and we just

(01:50:52):
started giggling because he's still doing it. I'm still doing
like bro, He's like, man, so I told him that, man,
much respect you do a big thing? Like how much
respects to you? Like I watched Puffy Like it's it's
a respect, but it's a competition thing. And when I
could be I could be jealous without with without hating.
Yeah yeah right, So I'm like, damn, Puff got his own.

(01:51:13):
Look at them about to get me a dam like
So so it's this. It's also competitive. It's what drives mean.
And I heard Snoop say, he said, man, y'all, I'm
chasing Diesel. No, I'm chasing Snoop, Snoop doing big thing.
I'm chasing jay Z. I'm chasing like when jay Z
started invested and now I started investing with those firms.
Who yeah, well those firm Instead of hating about all

(01:51:35):
that you've just learned. So I'm happy that we're all
still doing it. And it's been a documentary about that,
like the guys who started here and like we're still
doing everybody, so breaking down how it goes for every
every basketball player or every ex baseball player, every ex
football player or every ex wrapper up every XDJ that

(01:51:57):
that you know what you feel like it's time to
move on and go into this other life because you know,
I was speaking to Bust the Robs the other day,
was telling me to give him his respect to Buster
kept saying to me, he's like, man, it's time for
me to have this other investment that has nothing to
do with music. And I didn't kind of like a

(01:52:19):
realized what he was saying. But basically what he's saying
is like I need another life. But how does this
happen for you? Like is this this happening because you
spent that to million in three months? And then you
start to say that it was just opportunities that presented
a little bit of both. But you have but but
you have to make it happen. It's not gonna happen.

(01:52:40):
You have to make it happen, you know. For you know,
the good thing about athletes and rappers as we all
know how to be spontaneous, Like we can go, we
can switch it up. Like everything I'm doing is like
quick thinking. Like I thought I was gonna make that
best about money forever. But then when when I realized
you're getting older and at coming down to twenty two

(01:53:00):
and the two coming down the four team trying to
start doing other things, I mean and you Jay C
did what now I said what Puffy sold his company?
Like you start, you know, you get inspiration from other
people and and all you guys give me inspiration like you.
You persevere, like you kind of don't want to say disappeared,
but you was. You was fat man, you know, raising

(01:53:22):
the kids and all that, and then you popped up
doing this thing. Now you're back on top songrasuations. Let
me ask you, what would be your advice though to
the average person that isn't a ball player, isn't in
the music industry, would be So I would say educate yourself.
Now when I say educate yourself, and about going to

(01:53:42):
school getting a degree, because I learned about business, not
from college. I learned about business from a book called
The Dummies Guy, to start your own business. And the
first thing I did was incorporate my family. The first
thing I did is take the cell phones out the
personal name and put them into business name so we
can get some of that money back. And then you
learned the on the way. So just like whatever you
want to do, educate yourself. And now I'm listening. If

(01:54:05):
I was a fourteen fifty now, I'd be a genius
because you know why because information is so available. It's
so available how to be a DJ? Like there, like
the currect thing. I had to have one of my
homies teacher. Now you can go online everything, That's what
I'm saying. So like so now like you can you
can go to goog gonna be how do I want to?

(01:54:25):
So my advice is whatever you want to be, educate
yourself on how you can do and then just you know,
have virtual mentors. But we had to try to find
physical mental Yes, what's the name of that book? You said,
Tell these guys just starting your own business? Wow? What
business you started? After week? So the first thing I
did was incorporated shock incorporated shock, and I do and

(01:54:49):
then yeah, and then I put my mom on Saturday
and put my dad on Saturday. And you know we
helped the taxes right, and you know we had a
fan club. I I go out in my office and
got in my car and that was so proud. Is
the best day of my life was when I got drafted.
You know, my parents like, congratulations, love you because you know,
my dad hardcourts see you later. I don't lose your
my life. He wanted to stay in the army. Bess like, now,

(01:55:12):
come with me, man, know how much you making? The
army only make sixoness out? Now you make a half
a million a year? What you start crying out? Mom?
How much you want to make? You make seven fifty
and put them on like yes, and also had to
teach you in the business. I'm not gonna give it
to you. Nobody's helping him on the tax side, like

(01:55:33):
the half of me. You're gonna give me a man
like no, I'm gonna breaking down into twelve. Everybody gave
you yeah book because instead of giving it to the rest,
you giving it to your family and you can write
it off, right. That's so with you? Your own? How

(01:55:54):
many clubs you on a base? I owned seven restaurants
Jesus and one club. One club club it's called Shot.
I used to own the biggest club in Vegas. It
was called Pure. But that was a long time ago.
And you live in Vegas. Why are you invested in Vegas?
Because everybody I live everywhere, brother, Miami, Davy, every Michael.

(01:56:24):
I didn't know that you shut your show here? Oh
yeah no, because my boy out She's like Nori. I
was like, man, I love Nori, but I'm not flying
in New York Miami, for real, hold on, you just
got your license. I just got my big because you
would have pulled me over and told me to jah listen, man,

(01:56:51):
I ain't gonna lie to you because because it's what
this is. I've always had people to drive for me.
That's that's a blessing, that's great. But there's sod times
where I want to go to seven and eleven and
get some how do you call this water? How you
call us again? So I want to get something that
I don't want to I don't want to wait for,

(01:57:11):
you know, my wife, somebody to drive me sotimes I
want to go. And also I like the new Corvette.
I just want to Did you get what I'm gonna get?
My man, go go ahead, my man, go go here.
He tried not to let me get one. He wanted
to meet me, go all hits. He got it, but
I want to drive and I don't want to drive
it with joint? You got the red joint? What you got?
What color? The guy? Right now? So I was gonna

(01:57:35):
buy the red joint because I because even I'm a
big guy, like feeling a little. So I had a
Ferrari one time convertible. So if you take the convertible top,
making this and out, you have like ages World of Engines,
you're gonna move it back. I was gonna do the
same thing with the Corvette. Just take the top out
because I don't need the top anyway, because take it
out and just don't need to I don't need the
top top. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I figured, I said,

(01:58:00):
you know what, let me stay because I'm risking my
life every time I leave my house to go get
a goddamn switching sweet. You know what I'm saying, You
guys gonna make airline news. Someone to hold me over
like this the northerthing. Let's take I'm saying, like, yeah,
I'm saying to myself, I say to you, bro. So
I went through the process too, like JP hooked me up.

(01:58:22):
So I took the written road test and then I
get what I mean, just give me the written test.
But then I got to take the road test because
I want to get it all locked out, like I wait,
I'm not waiting to tomorrow. And just my love, I
get like, you know, the guy that knows I'm nor
don't want to dream like nice to me, and she's
like so he jumps in. By the way, I was
a dickhead for this. I did not realize this, they said,

(01:58:44):
because my name has to be on the insurance for
me to take the road test. So I pull up
and the guy goes in my car. He goes, is
this some Mercedes or may back? And I go on,
the Mercedes make the may back? And I said, I failed.
Right there, I see that is the de question, like
you were so confused over is this a Mercedes are
made back? And I said, I said it so like

(01:59:06):
nonsense bench, I did my test may back and I
gotta go with me. But so he goes. So the
minute he goes, is this a Mercedes or made back?
And I sit it and I'm trying to like I'm
talking to like how we talk to one of my
normal friends, and like, no, normal sir. The Mercedes makes

(01:59:28):
the mate back and then he just he said wrong.
I said to myself, I failed this ship. There's no hey,
I'm fasting it. And then let me just tell you something.
If everything would go wrong, it almost wrong. I got
on the big gass. But listen, yagers, I don't know
if you know you know, so gas and break at

(01:59:49):
the same time because by the way, I go through
the course prior to us doing it before the guy
comes out. But list yeah, because you know what I'm
saying that you want I'm talk about to think one,
I'm not. I was trying to flow well, y'all. But
like me and my I's we go through the course

(02:00:15):
like five six times. He's working about me backing up,
so every I do everything but back up when I
go through the course. So now God comes out. He's
he's ship's face. He got the mask on, and I'm like, like,
take your mask off, making it if you got it,
I got it at this point, making like we're just
gonna but I don't say that obviously I'll do everything correct.

(02:00:37):
Then he says, give me a three point turn, and
I just kept it real. I said, I was in
there three hours studying three point turn in here. Wow,
you know it's up when you're gonna pump when let

(02:01:04):
you turn. Let's take a trick for that. I can.
So whoever that guy is, by the way, because he
wasn't a dick, he wasn't a dick. He wasn't He
was actually a cool guy. He was, but he was
being hard on baby Shock would you do a baby,

(02:01:24):
shack what you want? No more spending, no more spend
good s. Shock, let's be part of since my name
you know when you play here good the sheriff, the sheriff,
we know we shof correct bad? Would you drinking sunny?

(02:01:58):
He tried me sent to mentor every day? But about
what you know? You know how I ask about what
I'm saying? That shot you see every day with the
police in America. Again, seriously, we see what's going on. No,
I just want to ask somebody. You just say whatever

(02:02:22):
you want. I'm on, I'm put chat right, How did
you personally feel about it? You gotta see some list
stuff going on and it doesn't matter that shot ain't
about that. But when you didn't know matter if it's
in Texas, Las Vegas, North Dakota. I tell whatever, how

(02:02:43):
do you personally feel about that? Because I know you
got something personal when they because when I speak to
the police now and tell them welcome to my life,
and they said, what do you mean? I said, when
I do something, it affects read by this, it affects
that exactly. So now when you guys do something, it

(02:03:05):
affects right, That's the first thing I tell them, and
it hurts me when some guys go overboard. It really
does hurt me. But you know, the ones that do
go overboard, they need to be dealt with properly because
a lot of that stuff they don't teach. And have
been a four or five different guys. They don't teach that.
And having police, yeah, they don't teach a lot of

(02:03:27):
tithing and it's a dangerous job now. But when I
was growing up, they had something that was called neighborhood policing,
like you know, Mari, I know, yeah, yeah, that's day
front of the neighborhood. I know, Mari, I know you
made a mistake me before we lock him up, let
me go highlight you. Yeah, man, you're trying to be
a rapper. Next time you're you're the boy like we

(02:03:49):
had that. Yeah, so we don't have that now, so
we need to get back to that. So you know,
I'm the director of community Relations in Atlanta, Georgia. I'm
trying to bring the police in the community back together again.
I don't stand for when people break the law, So
there's an officer. If you do something crazy, you need
to be dealt with properly. But I tell them all

(02:04:09):
the time. When one does something it affects us all.
One rapper does something, When one podcast or something that's
gonna affect us all, you know, they need to know
and understand that. So what about the police policing as
a gang like where the good ones might be good,
but they're not going to tell all the bad ones. Well,
that's something that has to be dealt with. Two, because

(02:04:31):
you know that's a culture in itself. Well, it's a
culture for everybody. It's a culture for rappers. It's a
culture for rappers. You know, it's a culture for us.
Like if if I knocked somebody out in here right now,
not not one of us, but let's just say somebody
came out the street and I knock somebody out, you
ain't gonna rapper, That's what I'm saying. So it is
that that that that that's a different conversation. And you

(02:04:52):
don't think that the police should be at a different
hell of a different standard than us right here, No,
they should write what I'm saying that they should. But listen,
you know how this you know what this and again
that's a different conversation. I don't want to get that
the conversation because the way I think may not be
the way other people think. That. That's why I don't
come out and talk a lot. But I can't say

(02:05:13):
that if you break the law and if you don't
listen to what's what's written down and how they teach you,
something got to happen to you. That's real ship. That's
real ship. So we we basically damn that coupled almost everything.
But I don't want good got again. There's a little
bit more go for you. Go on your side. You

(02:05:40):
other other sides come ahead. They want to pitch it
with you. They'll be introduction you be again. Okay, hold cool, alright, cool,
I ain't know you're just Cuba. I would okay, I
don't want to disrepreg nobody. But one time I called
the Cuban girl port rigging shoot you in the bed.

(02:06:01):
Oh no, she's trying to him. That was Puerto Rican.
She trying to fight me, fight me. And one time
I call it Dominican girl, Puerto Rican. That's what I
was called, Mexican and Puerto Rican. After not living, I
was called come over here for the next test in
t s A like you from over there. Yeah, that's it.
She went off yeah right now, oh yeah, Sam Haitian Rightian, right,

(02:06:32):
we want he didn't want to come with us, guys,
but they don't believe me. Now we believe it. But
you're not Haitian though you said, I ain't been hate either.
Say that again, Say that again. It's borderline of Haitian.

(02:06:53):
That's really against. Say Shack is no no, say Shack
is boran, I hate? Yeah, what is that name? Is
that the Muslim? This is the first show you're gonna
have about a million virus clips from the ship. How

(02:07:15):
come if this is a Muslim name, how come it's
not not one of the Muslim I know in the
world name to kill? Yeah? Yeah, so so one of
w I became understand, it's like thousands of people names
she killed. So when I was when I was born,
my mother comes from a very religious family and born

(02:07:37):
out of wedlocks where they kind of outs. So she's
walking down the street in Oregon. She made her brother,
who as a must a book full of Muslim names
and she killed. Russian means little warrior. So she said, okay,
y'all kicking us out, She's gonna be me and my
little warrior. So I've always loved the name because it

(02:08:00):
was God given. What I mean by that? Growing up,
I always wanted to always wanted a nice basketball name,
Larry right now, you like Larry Bird, Magic, Sequi, sequill
on Neils right here? Okay, I'll cull you back and
I finish it alright, my brother, So I always one

(02:08:22):
of that. So I always wanted that that dope name,
Shaquille O'Neil. So I think it was, you know, god given.
How do you feel about the youngest person to like
the older person connecting with to relating to you. I
told my mom she's gonna be honest, and if he was,
he's eighty. So they have a word role model for me,

(02:08:44):
I had to change it to real model. I'm not
real model. I can't play a role get that. Bag.
Have to be who I am and if you accept me,
and I know and I know most people will accept
me because my worst fear is my mother looking at
the TV and see me acting crazy, not acting funny,
acting crazy. So because acting yourself, yes, So, because I

(02:09:08):
have the respect for her, I'm always be nice, always
be curious. And on fifty, I don't want no problems
like we didn't have been battle tests do all that
when I see people, Now, what up, homie? It ain't
it ain't no more, ain't no more who I'm fifty,
weren't been and done that. I don't want no problems
with nobody. What's up? How you don't? I don't care

(02:09:28):
what you do, what you represent? Who are you? With peace?
Love and respect? And we move on because I'm bro
we didn't I did all that. I don't did all
the me mugging and beach and trying to find everybody.
We passed that, we passed the tests. We're here now.
You know we're professionally, you know we're maybe I care
so I just try to make people happy, you know,
just make people smile. You do that definitely. Man. No, no,

(02:09:53):
I can't find man like we just watching you, um
be watching your career from the beginning. Uh. You know,
I can't say to the end because there's no ending
to it, and me just seeing you prosper and having
so many different businesses. It inspires me. I'm gonna because

(02:10:16):
you can't real that's for real? Is you know? When
we grow up in the hood, they say, they say this,
if you want to be a man there, you're gonna
have seven jobs. Right, So I'll be feeling like, if
that's the truth, then you should show me those seven jobs.
A lot of people don't. A lot of people will
show you that one or two jobs, and then they

(02:10:38):
won't let you know about the ring. They won't let
you know about the fire truck that they you know
what I mean, They don't want to try on the
side or or or let me remix that for you.
Why they gotta show you. Won't you go out and
create seven of your own jobs? Yeah, that's yeah, Like
you don't like like you don't need because because everybody's
not gonna give up the secrets. I always give up

(02:10:58):
the secrets. Protest gonna tell kids listen to your mommy
and daddy. Huh, I said, because like, how did you
get so? First time? I listen to my mom and day?
So I made a lot of money. Listen to drill
sergeant as secretary. I'm gonna get to that. Listen to
somebody you believe when you trust boys and Girls club
mentor police officers, somebody that you look up to. Listen

(02:11:22):
because if you don't listen, you ain't gonna make it anyway.
You don't listen, you're not gonna make it. And if
you don't listen, you're not gonna have that one first,
that beacon. So do you learn to be an entrepreneur
because you've mentioned many times about being an entrepreneur, or
like a joint ventureship like you've done. You said that.
So so when I'm reading the book, I don't understand anything.

(02:11:43):
I understand. Yeah, I don't understand that, but I understood
joint ventureship. It is a partnership. So then I said, okay,
let me try that. I want to start a sneaker company.
I'm not going to China. I'm not setting up no
factory like this cost I ain't I ain't got that
money yet. I can't pay a hundred people in China
who I can't see. Yeah, that infrastructure, that's where the

(02:12:06):
joint venture coming at. So let me do. Let me
get on the call. He who makes his shoes, Oh,
he makes Let me get his name with the gentleman
by the name of Steve Jackson. Last he was doing
conversation the last shoes. So we had a conversation. He's here,
he already has that infrastructure. So my joint venture is
with him. Of course he gets this piece. I get
my piece have my own shoe company, but I don't

(02:12:28):
really have my own shoe company where I own a
hundred percent sold me by myself, so I had to
do a joint venture. So most of my deals to
joint venture. I want to do a water company. I
don't want to buy no factory. I don't want to
have to deal with the FDA. They already got it.
I want to do a podcast. My man, my man,

(02:12:48):
he's famous, my man, right here. He looked like me.
You know, you just choose. That's how I tend to
do my business, and then when you base it on
respect and trust, it can never go wrong. Like if
I do this liquor thing, I'm not gonna start from

(02:13:11):
the bottom. I'm gonna do with JV with somebody that's
already has shelf space and distribution. Listen right now, right now,
I was gonna do a look at company. A friend
of mine, he's in here, and he said, I cannot
let you start from the bottom. You gotta start be
mad at me right now, all the other company that
I don't walk away. He said, that's well the way.

(02:13:32):
But he's right though, like because sometimes we work so
hard and then we want to have ownership. But what
we do is we start from the bottom of the
ownership and ownership tim percent ownership still ownership, and then
you know so nothing yea. And sometimes you have a
hundred percent of something that's not worth nothing, and then

(02:13:53):
when you get there, you move on to something else.
See people ask me why I work hard, Not that
I work hards, just that I'm I'm prog I'm not
to be complacent. Right after this, I got to do
another podcast. Yeah you're doing to listen my own. Oh see,

(02:14:17):
you ain't gonna vite us. I would love to, but
I don't like to bother you. But yeah, yeah you do.
You fo me a podcast at at my house. Okay,
I don't have all this ulp you out topping a
little sign yourself, sign you signed to yourself. When you
do a joint venture, we can popping sports. Yeah, okay,

(02:14:41):
hip hoping sports. That's what my man was. My man
name the comedian dude. Um he does dances like that? Yes,
my partner. Yes, I met him in real life, but
follow him so much on Instagram and I think I
know him, like, like, guess how much I followed? Just
go woke up to me. But Lena, my nigger. He

(02:15:02):
might like what the fund is wrong with him? Because
I just feel like I don't know um and him
and Aprion Crockett then Jack. So many people does impressions
with you? Who was your favorite person that does impression you?
Jay Foul, Apion Crockett, Vin Hard got a good spars

(02:15:24):
spat Fox, Jamie Fox doesn't good. Yeah, but you know
I like that. You like it, you know, because I
like laughing like that. And then I'm not. I'm not
to the point where I'm all that, to where I
can't laugh at the joke that's funny. Like what imagine
me trying to fight Apion Crocket because they did impression?
That's silly. I don't I don't do silly stuff. Back

(02:15:47):
in the day, I was real silly. But you know what,
I realized it was silly because we all chase useless titles.
You're the best tej ever. What does that mean? Are
you getting paid? Are you getting paid a check from
some secret or tell you the best thing? You're the
best big man ever. You're a man. But what does

(02:16:07):
that mean? Don't mean nothing. I don't mean nothing. So
like once I learned to stop doing that and just
have more fun. Everything everything blossoms, like you've got the
best pocket and y'all do have the best podcast, but appreciate.
Yeah we have a good one. Yeah you do. That's
a good one. And your category. It's only two of y'all,

(02:16:30):
So it's a lot of people that do that, but
it's only two of y'all. And you know who the
other ones is everyone Gilly and Wallow category. It's only
y'all to y'all, Like, yes, let me tell you how
how weird I am. We love me and our broke game.
We love Joe Button, I'm there, we laugh rate on
it coming back out. We love whom but one like

(02:17:00):
it's a podcast. But like man thought, Rory and mall,
y'all to your own special category, Like like me, I'm
not the best big man. I got my own category.
You're the most dominant big man. So y'all y'all have
I know they all do in podcast, but y'all y'all
and get what y'all got you He asked you something
because this is this was like every time they always

(02:17:22):
that's on the model your son. He could be beautiful,
but call you beautiful. But everyone like Harold Mirnon came
to the league, but Harold Mirner came to the leader
like that's the new Jordan's and in Zion Zion, what

(02:17:46):
do you feel about side because because Scion I like them. Yes,
I think they're giving them too much slack slack slack,
yeah in the negative way. Like they're talking about is weight. Yeah,
leave the man alone. Like you put a guy in
front of me with the six pack and all that,
I'm gonna kill his ass every time. I'm gonna eat

(02:18:07):
that Popeyes, I'm gonna eat the Papa Johns, I'm gonna
drink of water and drink the PEPs and I'm gonna
destroy his every time. So listen to man could play.
He got bound, but you got all these experts he
needed to know. He just needs to play, have fun
and take that fan. I like this game. I'm anxious
to see what he can do. You're putting them numbers.
The second year, he just got hurt and you know, oh,

(02:18:29):
he's way way that man like everybody like gonna have
I never had. I'm starting to get a six pack now,
but I never had that. I don't need that sold
up here and he got to put on playing video
games a week that visual was bad. That was I mean,
but was that him really or I mean, yeah, it
was with mont So I want to say over where
he's just big boned and I'm not gonna say because

(02:18:50):
I'm not. But he listened. He got bounced though, and
then and then you know, for guys like us, like
like when I came to Amy, they shock with so
I lost. I was weak, bro, I was like because
because remember I'm shocked or people coming to meet like this,
I was. I was always bruised and heard up. But
when I had that meat, I was on stoppable. I

(02:19:13):
looked like him and I had all that if you said,
obviously potentially tried to go at you right like I
couldn't block it, like he would? You tell me this

(02:19:33):
other people in the NBA who wanted to like Dunk
was shot. That was that was a poster like Vince
Carter tried to get me one time. I had to
lay him out. I remember that fall in Miami, and
then the next play down here got Zoe. Yeah remember that. Yeah,

(02:19:55):
but I mean before that, you had to lay him out.
Ship Okay, irv Gotty, what's that big dog? Baby? Yes,

(02:20:27):
my bad dog. Just I'm just I'm not gonna taking
a shot for that time? Can I get heyst can
I got one too? Are you sure so shot didn't go.

(02:20:51):
I'm gonna keep you look like you gotta be good.
You gotta be good. I don't just like I'm gonna
keep you round. I'm gonna be fair with you because
I asked you easy to say. Ship. We're taking the
shop for the take it. You're the only two people
that I know they got an automar dealt Automa. So

(02:21:14):
I want my autumn a today. I'm pleading my case
with you. You want I want jack all them all?
Oh no, those are hard to get. Those are done
rightly made that many we make they made two thirty
two number that shock actual real number. Yea J. I

(02:21:39):
was like, y'all want to I want to take I
gotta be good for that autom all. He was like, well,
good luck, play boy. That's how I fished. I don't
think like that, but my mom was like that. I
like that so though, So that's really more real when
they make thirty two. This is you don't have one
in the crib in Orlando with the fifty bad You

(02:21:59):
know person, No you ain't because you don't you don't
believe watch you want to do? I have Invictor watches
now invicted that you would you invested into it and
I can get your those nothing you want the big
job keeping? I don't know why? Why not? I don't
know why? Why? Why not? I'll take it? Why not?

(02:22:25):
Let me let me? Why? Because I can I set
out for you for free and save you thirty? Why
people who don't give a ship about right Invictor giving
about me? I do? I am in Victor? Do you
believe in me? Do Victor gard My joints is big,

(02:22:51):
but my joints and statements because I see I didn't
know what it was. I was like, oh, you know why,
because you'd be wasting your time. One. All of my
other brands that don't care thirty or model funk with us.
I need to know do that. I'm asking you? Did
they funk with you after you did? But with you? Damn?
I think answer to this, Victor US, you know why

(02:23:17):
I do nice big watches and affordable prices. I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna brow your head. Equivalent to the
presidential Invictor. What's the like? You can go five thousand,
but it's gonna be a style, just like I'll tell
you what I'm gonna have my man, Alex, let's go, Alex.

(02:23:37):
Don't know who you talk to to get me on
the show. Okay, right, okay, So Jam, he's gonna bring
you up four diamond joints. Come on you. Yeah, I'm
invicted out. I'm gonna take that. Yeah, we can't do

(02:24:22):
You're gonna take hold up holding the accolades that was
mentioned earlier is all. Oh, that's phenomenal, all dope. The
Oscar Award that you won making that short film for
Luisa Harris. To change the topic, how did you know
she was somebody to make a documentary about? And how

(02:24:43):
did you do? Good? Question? One thing I could ever
do is steal somebody's shine. Documentaries are already done, right,
I just helped Magnified. It's already done, Magnified as you
put out there, an say, to listen to this, but
I like to be an officionado. Like when you talk

(02:25:05):
about hip hop, I know his stories. At the beginning
to talk about DJ, I know your story. I was there.
I never heard of this one before, and I was like, oh,
how can I how can I have not heard about
a woman that was good enough to play in the NBA.
So when I heard a story, so I'm like, yeah, NBA.
So I'm like if I didn't, Yes, she got drafted
by the Utah jess to the first time. Yeah, come on,

(02:25:30):
come on, Oscar you got Is that what you want?
A man is based on man stopping man stopping man? Yeah,
we know we are. But there was a lot of
similarity because Kobe want an Oscar, You want an Oscar,

(02:25:51):
and there was a woman that was good to be
playing the NBA. Take please, men and him didn't compete
on everything friendly thing. Kobe want to ask me and
all my friends compete. I lost some thousands, and I
was like, because he said he told you all to
have the water in, I said, they're not gonna do
it because I've never seen I gave it to So

(02:26:13):
so the fact that he got one, yeah, I like
to have one too. Like I'm again, I could be
jealous and be inspired by my Jeb, not hate like
he gotta ascarn, get me Ascar, he gotta pay not
man loris. Yeah, so like you like, when I get jealous,

(02:26:35):
I can inspire. So no, but not not to take
nothing with him. You're coming from Newark, New Jersey. I
gotta see from Jersey from sake. Alright, so I got

(02:26:58):
next next you. Okay, we're the third. When they tell
you you want to oscar, that's not basketball, that's not entrepreneur,
that's I like this, that's what is that for? Blue chaps? No,
that's what's what are you? I'm programmed not to get

(02:27:23):
excited because there's more to do, because your yeah, because
like like like my father would let me get excited,
Like you can get excited at the moment. But every
time you want a championship, I feel the call. Hello, yes, sir,
bring your ass home, bring my trophy. So now I
gotta rent the plane and bring my trophy. I go

(02:27:46):
get another one. Have fun in summer, Go get another one, motherfucker.
But you loving that though? Did you feel loving and
through that accomplish? Yeah? But did you but love though?
He wasn't doing that to be found. I finally asked
some towards into my career, I said, what did you

(02:28:06):
do that? He said, because I never want you to
be complacent, because like I used to, he used to
put it on the thing and then when I come
back next time, it don't be there. What the trophy
of college every there like he wouldn't let you see it.
And then when I come back next time, you need
to replace it. Give me another one, give me up.

(02:28:29):
So like t years when I went very very hard,
and then the third one, which we want in Jersey,
he like cry and break down. He's like, man, you've
done everything I asked. We're good. He's like, you don't
need to win that nothing else. You've got to make
it good. I'm believing every you better make it good.
We want to be about the shack. Do you guys

(02:28:49):
get your old little Warry O'Brien? You got what your
We do know we do you if you have a
little guy. And so so with the rings, everything I

(02:29:13):
passed so when he passed away, I gave everything to
my father. Yes, so when he passed away, I received
the bag and I got sections in my house to
where it's you know, it's dedicated to him. But he
all lived your mother? Yes, what lived your mother? No,
my father passed away. So I'm saying, but you wouldn't

(02:29:34):
give anything to your mother. No, she don't care about that,
you know, she's just she's just you know, I'm just
a guy. So I was, so I have him now.
And I always made Homeboy replicas of the ring because
they used to make the ring. But you know, I'm
from you know, I had the ice mine house. Like
the original rings was just you know, sitting in the house.

(02:29:55):
That's dope. But now they're making the rings nice. It
was like Jacob the Big Three guy even yeah, yeah,
what do you think about the Big Three? I like him?
You like what you like? No, I wouldn't do it
because I think no, because because one of those because

(02:30:19):
when the team, because because you see your own Sacramento Kings, yeah,
piece of it, you still do. No, I sold it.
So like when you say the name shock y'all, remember
the Shack with his legs up. Duncan not that guy
no more. So go out there now. I don't want
you to see me like that. And and plus I
did nothing, like if I didn't do much in the league,

(02:30:40):
then I'll probably go out there just I could have
been and I do it. But that's a good way
to look at it. So like, don't you don't think,
you don't think, you don't think a little shack right now,
you'll play one on one. I'm gonna kill him. I
was almost a league. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm thinking this shot.

(02:31:04):
I'm a little didn't make the friend. He's drunk. All

(02:31:27):
that I can tell yourself. Wait, wait left for me.
I'm gonna see for this. So Steve Style calls me.
Steve South says, I got somebody that want to do
a record with you, right this is right after you.
We did do that. I did, I did record after this.

(02:31:49):
I did the record with you. I could find it though.
I did the record, and then I woke in the
studio this Kobe Brockett there. So I'm like, Kobe, I
gotta write this guy's fright real quick. So so I
write the rhyme for me, and then I write the
rhynd for Kobe. I'm knocking out real fast. Kobe walks
in the room and he goes, why do you have

(02:32:10):
two verses? He was like, you know, they don't wanted yours.
I don't have to. I don't have one. He's like engineer,
and he raised the other one. And I'm looking at
the kode because I'm like, there's no way. And by
the way, he's speaking in French. He's the engineer. But

(02:32:34):
for some reason I'm understanding that I don't understand French.
For some reason, You're reason, I just what are you
talking about. He's like, I don't know, Norman, I write
my own ship. And I was so like disappointed and
impressed at the same time. I was disappointed, like damn,
my check just cut in half real fast. But then

(02:32:56):
I was impressed because Kobe, although I know he's not
a real, real m c he would not, he wanted
to be Kobe even as I was impressed. So I'll
tell you the funny thing. Ye oh yeah, oh yeah,

(02:33:18):
So so let me take the funny thing. So I
was impressed. So we did the record, and we computed
the record. Then later on that night, track master says,
that's gonna miss the child's go to dinner. I gets
so drunk. Did I come up to Kobe Bryant and
I'm like, I just want to keep you real. I
think I can beat you one on one right now.

(02:33:38):
And Kobe's thinking about it. It's like, you know, he
was like a real champion because he was. He almost said, okay,
let's come because I look at Steve Style. Everybody's looking
around because I said it was based in my voice.
But everyone knows I'm playing. Everyone knows I can't. I know,
I can't be Kobe Bryant, but the Hennessey told me
I think I could win tonight. So Kobe's like, where's

(02:34:01):
the closest court. Oh, and the closest court is actually
Queen's Ridge. We don't because remember if everyone remember fifty
seven is the first originally Mr Child's on fifty seven Street.
If you actually take a left and you can make
it right, you're in Queen's Ridge. So I said, Kobe,
that's let's called to kill b And I was gonna

(02:34:24):
challenge Kobe one on one. By the way, I think
he would have killed me, and I think he would
have not been merciful on me. But because this is
how this is how I know he was like this,
This is how I know he was a real champion.
Was he actually thought about Like he actually looked at
me and was like, but where's the closest court? And

(02:34:46):
I was like, man, we got another Superstars right, he's bad?
Holy shit, holy ship on. Everyone's saying a lot of
sugar shame mostly yeah, good luck, good luck. Oh you lose, yes, yes,

(02:35:20):
you lose. Are you a boxing fan of course? Who
say the same movie Tank killing the game? So I
think Floyd like and then you know the same but
the same conversation we had about basketball, and I'm seeing
could do the same thing about boxing. Who's the greatest

(02:35:41):
boxing ever? I think generation. I think it's Floyd. I
think Floyd, But you know, some people say Tyson and
all that. By the way, our party with Floyd, and
then I see him five miles home. I see party
with him, see him drinking cranberry juice. Thought it was
I'm saluting. And then they get John hold. I said,

(02:36:06):
wait a minute, that they woun't drinking. Boxing the old
So I think he's the best boxing like boxing, like
bare knuckle boxing, like UFC. I like it all like
sports being knuckle boxing was my man from out here,
m Kimbo sl RP. That was the best. I kid
you not. That was the first time. I don't like

(02:36:27):
seeing fights on the internet. That's not you do. I
don't like seeing none of that. I can't stand it.
You bet, you bet not, bash, I love it, my friend.
We don't believe it did cartoon character that that was

(02:36:50):
drunk all the time. No, he was a cat. I
think it was a cat. That's what he's sundling right now. Yeah,
but shot who was the player a player that you

(02:37:12):
were saying that a party the balls, whether you played
with him or not. GP, GP, that's why got re
name right, man the party, but still show the game
and he got his own string. Said that what you saying? Whatever?

(02:37:38):
What you said that? Because he said he I was
talking about the glove. He said, guys own strand the weed.
I said, that's the reason why. Because okay, so he
would go out party. If he didn't party, he didn't
play well he was. Yeah, so when we were here,
we had to move practice back because Pat like to

(02:37:59):
go at eight and ten. We had to move back
to twelve because yeah, we all work, but I don't drink.
But they would. They would actually party hard, but go
to work in the game, go to work in the game.
So yeah, Gpa pay we need him, we need him

(02:38:20):
and shout out to hit something from winning the chip
this year to him. Really, Gary Pine Junior with the Warriors,
Oh really, what's that you got about? Don't check? You
don't check your three minutes to piss. You took a
boo boo. I don't I gotta get back to you're

(02:38:57):
acting side. You moved on to now. But you're gonna
move on to making films. And I did my homework. Man,
Sol Jersey Legends Productions, please talk about it, Jersey Letting
Productions like so yeah, I've always had the ability to
control the commercials and make up the commercials. All the
commercials you see are made up by me. And I

(02:39:19):
actually went to film school to see how all this works.
And I was gonna do it a long time ago.
But now is the time talking my own production company
start producing, started directing and doing all that stuff. So
we're gonna be We're gonna be taking all documentaries and
we're gonna be taking all the documentaries, movies, whatever. You know.
We're gonna give opportunities, you know, to give people people jobs. Uh.

(02:39:42):
I just thought of African American well Multicultural Agency, and
you know, we went a lot of we want our
first awards because when if you look in the if
you look in the business of agencies, where to go out,
it's not a lot of us. So I just thought
of one where it's mostly all of us. You know,
we're doing doing big things. But Jersey let Texas, I

(02:40:05):
want to do stuff like this. I want to you know,
be behind the scenes instead of instead of being behind
the camera. Let's have that. That's so so so. No, guys,
you're not my whole life. Man, everybody see telling me

(02:40:28):
you look like shock. This should be an easy job
for me. You're here today, shot, I need to be
higher as you start four stuffed up? Got tell you

(02:40:50):
what all that ship? If I do it just for man,
I give you my word. If I do a commercially
in Miami, you got the job. He could do. The

(02:41:10):
creover dubs just happen to say that. So I just
want you to know, um, you know, um, we have
this whole thing that's going on that uh right, like
he is this sunny d he's our friend, but he's
not as a proof. You could drink everything else on

(02:41:31):
this table, but the people in a spade do not.
They're not fond of him drink at the age. Let's see,

(02:41:54):
give us your basis. You can't see, you can't see

(02:42:14):
tell you. So let's be clear. Because so we all

(02:42:36):
voted him when they came down to it, we all
sold him out face. People ask me, do y'all vote
that he gets on the ACE list. All of us
said no, you would not on his friends. So we
would like to act just I wouldn't want to listen
to playing this part out. Don't say we do about it.

(02:43:06):
I don't want you about he just you just you
embarrass us. Sometimes you want my brother? What did you
say about respect? But you know I just got when
he's happy and your brothers, we love to tell you
something more. Yeah, got about he's the only one that

(02:43:27):
just to pack the belts a game. Well it wasn't
a good man. We cut them off. Got the videos.
I wanted the same thing. Who got the video? Who
got the video about? You know? I'm sorry you say

(02:43:53):
with my white kids? Now? He don't see you again
and was doing again. He did the chicken wing shot,
take you away away. I were like, nobody got to
now when you can turn around her? Yeah, that's know.

(02:44:22):
Yeh was like him, sounds like I told so listen,
I'm gonna be honest. Something to look happy. He didn't
like that part. I'm dressing on my mom. I can't
especially if you do it's supposed to hold her hands,

(02:44:42):
ye know, get her like he like, and he really
liked that. He thinkn't she's feeling this? He's like where
he would have to react. He was like, this way
way too far over. I'm gonna be honest, man, I
really appreciate this because you know why, I know you
for the coach. I know you're about the coach that
I know you of the coach and I know is

(02:45:03):
the coach. But the thing about it is, like you
said earlier, we gotta start showing love to each other.
You didn't have to come here, you don't have to
sit down, but we want we we we wanted to
give you a flowers face to face, man and man
because we are superheroes. And when I say we, I'm
talking about us as the coaching. We are superhero you
know what he's saying. Real flowers don't die. They don't die.

(02:45:28):
Snoop calls of the grammy. But shot, I want to
thank you, so listen, I just want to thank you
so much as a person, as as you as a player,

(02:45:48):
as a businessman, as a real model, as a real model,
as a person, because you inspired me to be better.
At times I just go on your Instagram or going
look at the internet and I see what you do
for people that you randomly just meet, and that is
that's an inspiration to me. That is so much positive energy.

(02:46:09):
Like me, you know I'm a person I wake up
in the morning. Let's I just send positive energy messages.
What are you doing, sunny, Sunny, what are you picking up?
I'm looking at like I've got here. I'm listening to
what you're saying, you know, because I'm feeling man, I

(02:46:38):
don't know what I'm saying. I don't know I'm saying.
They usually see her. But you know, I know how
you get down positively know much. I understand where you're
coming from from a good place. Okay, normally is a
great brother, and continued, what's the music? What's the music?

(02:47:05):
I want to thank you once again? Or you gotta
do is do and drone? And I want to say,
I don't know how people get on your show, but
thanks for asking for me. I mean, I'm definitely a
fan of the show. So when your man reached out
to my guy, I hate, I hated to say no,
but I was saying, I'm not gonna be in New
York for one He's like, they in Miami. I was like, well,

(02:47:27):
they in Miami. I'm actually here and I was actually
supposed to leave today. We say, yo, we promised Nora,
you're gonna do the shows that you know what. You know,
my guy, and you're my guy. So appreciate and here
my guy to Kevin, can I appreciate good? Oh you

(02:47:47):
got to tape. I had to get it for hip hop,
for us, for what we do. That's the guy I
bought that that day. Here, brother knew you he wanted
to take. Trying to take. I didn't lose on the tape.

(02:48:12):
On the tape, please, not on the cover. On the tape.
Tap I'm gonna take on the table. You just the
tree on the table, on the table and look. And
since I'm a basketball and I'm drink changed sports, I
bought this two thousand six six. Sell what you got?

(02:48:41):
What you got? D up, I got the two thousand
six I did shell toes please and thank you. Remind
me he championship shell total the serious still in there
and I didn't even think the bring in the box
and eat this serious, feel good about yourself. So even

(02:49:01):
though I'm on this, I didn't approve this. Let me
tell you why, because growing up in the hood, we
ate that. So after the first championship, they call us
and said, we want you to be in a cover. Nope,
So I told my people called Frosted flakes, frost flakes.
They don't do this. So the second one no, So

(02:49:22):
second championship they called us again weedies man, what you
go and said nope. I told my people called fruit loops.
Third championship at the front place said no, we just
call again once you be in the thing, said no,
called dick him smacks. It was like, that's the stuff
that we that. So this's when they did the jail
the NBA. They put me in d wait on the couple.

(02:49:43):
But finally last year I did there with front and flakes.
And I've been on five million boxes in front of
pay up to so so it's frontal flakes with cinnamon
balls them in balls. Cinnamon balls. That's real, that's true,

(02:50:03):
cinnamon ball believe. I think. Don't you got an anties?
Was the press was sold it? Damn you just be
buying and selling it. That's the game. That's the game.
Everything's selling, selling or profit. Holy ship, I ain't gonna
lost track. I learned so much. Think they like, this
podcast is gonna be for selling when they like somebody's
gonna try to buy the almost tried and we almost

(02:50:26):
lost and we didn't do it. Wait, wait, what do
you say they almost tried, we almost lost. Try to
buy yeah right, someone who take a pictures? Um take
pictures and a couple of drifts and that we've got

(02:50:49):
other suddn't hear radio when you're more wants Hi, my
name is Shack. I'm not sounding the thing. I'm here
because I want to be here to do what you're
got to do. Thanks for joining us for another episode
of Drink Champs hosted by Yours truly, d J e

(02:51:10):
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