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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 1 (00:54):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
In a lot of ways, this brother that we uh
about to interview to the left of me, uh, a
lot of ways. If his life didn't exist, I don't
think I would it is this. You know, he for
the likes of putting on people like ak Nelly, you
know nas basketball That is directly lin lineage.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, I don't know how to pronounce that. He's a
man's man.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
He's a producer, producer, he's been down putting it in
I can't believe, like you, this is a person you
have to just salute like he's supposed to be, like
the Princess of Munda. When he walks, people throw flowers
at his feet. You know what I'm saying. In Queens,
He's God in the galaxy, in the planet, He's God,
hip holy to hip hoo, He's God. He's he's countless,
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and he's a humble guy. But today we're gonna be
cocky for him, and we're gonna give him his motherfucking
flowers because in case you don't know what the fuck
I'm talking about, I'm talking about the one, the only, honorable.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Now off the top, I always wanted.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
To ask you, how did you get that name? Lost Professor?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know that's me just talking, you know, Bravado on
the mic. Yo, it's the mighty Lost Professor. You know
what I mean. I'm I'm in the same ranks as
like the Great Sudan and all. You know what I mean,
and all of that, like we was, you know, the
gods man, the poor righteous teachers.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So, Lost Professors, what you know that I want to
present my because you know you named in life and
then if you ever got a chance to name yourself
and life, what would you name yourself?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Like think about it. Yeah, So I was like, yo,
lost professor, that's that's my name. That's what I'm gonna
name myself.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You know what I mean? I was named by you
know that type of thing. Yeah, that's why. How do
you e FN? Because was terrible? That was that was.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I said.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Let me just keep it to my initials. E FN.
That's my so.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Lost like you've been down with me.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Absolutely take what you're gonna do it today. Yes, I
want some rose Rose. You're a picky nigga. You what
do you want?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You know? So that's how I get the samples too, picky? Yeah, okay,
I just sample any record. I'll I'm right there sitting
at the end of the wall.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
So let me ask you because hip hop, I know
Biggy said this in the in and the record. He said,
you ever think that hip hop will make it this far?
And to tell you the truth, like the goals and
the places that hip hop is going now, I never
thought it would be this far.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
How about you? Did you ever think that hip hop
would be this far?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh? No, one hundred percent knew, yeah, because I you know,
I believe you know, I come from I come from breaking,
you know what I mean. Like, I knew the businessmen
they couldn't get down there and do windmills and old
them power moves he was doing. So I was like, nah,
we got something we you know, others be on the train,
death defying feats, all types of crazy shit on the.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Trains and everything. So that was that.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Ever, and then when you had dudes like cool O
d out here like spitting like some real intelligence on
the mic, you know, I'm like, Yo, we got our
own community.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Were good. You know what I'm saying, We're good for life.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Like so you know, Cool Jay came after that, a
bunch of brothers, you know what I'm saying, with that
Rock Him, you know, with that intelligence, and I was like, Yo,
I'm we got something, man, you know, because we we
got the ignorance, but then we got brothers that could
kick some ship too, you know. So that's when I
knew we had to, you know, the get in exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
And what's great about you is you got to work
with two of the greatest of all times, Rock Him
and Now and not.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Us in the studio of both of them obviously.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Right one time one time because rock Him Rock Him
at the time, like he was, you know, studio, you know,
handling a lot of things. I said, like that, he
was handling a lot of things. So you know, me
and Nas used to record on Eric being Rock Kim's
time and studio, you know what I'm saying, and power
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plays studios right up there Sea Room y'all was in
you know y'alls down the We was in that big
ass so the big buildings. So yeah, rock Kim came
through one time and Nas was there and it was
like a little triangle, like a little triad the guards,
the guards was building. Well, we was dead.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Hold on, you're telling me that you and Nas used
to be called on every being rock Him downtime when
they when.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Rock Kim wasn't coming through. Eric was like, yo, Paul,
do something with that studio time. And I had met
Nas too fatal and you know the Queensbridge right down
the block, power place, you know, so it's like like
you know, we're being the lab. We'd be waiting for
rock Kim for a little while. You know, after a while,
you know, it's like all the guard coming from all
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the way east. He might not make it. I so
you know, let me start getting on the horn. And
Nas was right down the block, so be like, yo,
lab is open, bro, what's up. It'd be like two
three in the morning, like moms were you know she
she asked the phone. She'd be like hello, I'll be
like it's professor, Like it's not. She's like you know,
she always she ain't never like and.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
This is this is, this is pre nas. There's no
to tell there's no ain't hard to tell out. There's
no halftime out.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Of no half time, getting getting him that studio like
he's yeah learning.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, I mean you know hot day, hot day, Yeah,
hot day was there like supreme, supreme magnetic, like all
all the all the painting, full posse was in there.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Like I'm saying, yeah, for sure, for sure, that's done.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Show was about giving flowers. Man, we're gonna get back
into that story, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Was about giving flowers. We're gonna get your flowers. But
you're drinking over there, f and man, you ain't take
a system. I'll watching you. You ain't take don't man,
this is drinking.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Remember that tours bro who was the drunkest on the tours, bro,
come on, man.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
You know what, give me a flowers topic. I was like, man, yo,
oh they real flowers? Yeah yeah, man, oh man, that's
a nice man.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I got one. Yes, oh man, I got one.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So now I know, I notice like a kind of
a cliche question because it's so easy to say yes
to this question right now. But did you always see
the greatness in ours?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Or was it was it? Was it something that had
to come through you know what I mean? Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I'm saying, you know, he came from the hub, like
you know what I'm saying, coming from Queensbridge already was
like he was already like fifty points good, like you know,
to one hundred. It was like, yo, you're coming from
the hub. You good. And then for him at that
time to have the combination, you know, he had that
word play the humbleness too.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
When I was I was a fan of the Jackson five,
you know like that, I was like, how old is
it you met him? Now it's like maybe like like
sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
When I'm waiting that ship at sixteen yeah, and these
motherfuckers standing and.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Are you how old are you? You were like what
oh no, I'm only a year older than ours. I
mean he was years he was.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, damn, So I'm gonna switched it up a little
bit because now too, like.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Because I remember, I remember.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Before I went to jail, tell me your memories checked
this out.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
So the two there was two dudes.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
That was the man in my hood was a guy
named Comedy. He's the rat name Comedy. He was actually
bigger than I. And then when I went to jail,
remember the bomb baby came out the bomb Baby, the
ball Baby and the little piece and left right.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I was like, I was like, that's what.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I was talking about. Hahaha. Section such a fu. Yeah,
how did you come from?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Understand?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
How did you come across? Meet and I?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You know, that's that's bound all day. John, That's that's
what y'all. So you met and John Bown. That's interesting
and your sister.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Everybody man was in the.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Building, but so so was I rapping back then absolutely him.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
It was him and a guy named c. C.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
They was c C. John Babe John Baby was from
section two two It last DJ Man DJ J j
O d big up him. He was originally down with
Maine sore too, but he went to the service. But yeah,
I was rocking with c C. It was somebody else.
We had a dude named Benny. Benny was DJing with us,
and you know we just hobby hobby self after school.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You know, yeah, you knew what's crazy. I was telling
this the story earlier. I had not known how Niles
loved how you look. The first time I actually seen y'all.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Was Brooklyn Queen's Day, and y'all, it was a Brooklyn
Queen's Day.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I was a little dude and I remember now, I
had a Safari had on it and I'm a kid
in the crowd and I'm looking and I see y'all performing,
and it was that. It was like it was after
Granddaddy that you It was that I looked, I looked
on the stage. I said, whatever the fuck they doing,
I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Ship. So you even know, I.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Was a little nigga watching y'all. Like but so let
me ask you, because this this line literally changed my life.
When I never heard a rapper say this, when he said,
when I was twelve, I went to hell for snuffing Jesus,
like that was like philostrous.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, it was for posters, for a project dude from
Queensbridge to think he could possibly have that much power. Jesus,
you know.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It's crazy, but it worked, man.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It got him where he needed to be with just
all of that extreme just preposterous ship like.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yo, you know, hanging like the Groog cut. You know
it was crazy. Yeah, so and it was needed at
the time exactly. The other line was was the other
line of waving automatic guns.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Back to the back because like like me and Ias,
like you know, I speaking nods a lot now, you know,
in older years, and you know at times he would
tell me when when he was bringing up Thematic and
he's like, you nor, you don't know how hard it
was making that album because I was in jail when
Allmatic came out.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
So all I got to see is the beauty of Allmatic.
I don't get into group home or jail. I was
in jail.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, j f y is that's the
vision for you, b.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's correct, that's the group home. That's jail, sir, that's
spot for you. Was spout.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
All of those.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
That's what him. I was in there, a different kind
of guy.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
So when I speak the nas, he tells me like
it wasn't because because I'm looking at it, I just
see the five mics. I just see ut Q tip
Premier people hear that fire and I hit that fire,
but I don't see the struggle of il Matt.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Was it a time where people was fronting on knas
Oh to begin with man real from the start man Yo.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
When they bought NAS's demo to Russell, Russell was like, nah,
he sounds too much like g rap Search so.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Some of that stuff too.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, he's it was. It was crazy and you know
we was in the same camp though. That's what he
wasn't seeing. It was like, yo, Nas is actually a
descendant of g so you should, you know, accept the
new generation type ship.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
But Russell ain't have that, you know what I mean,
He ain't know that force like yeah, rustle front of him, Russian,
Yeah yeah, rush.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Rush rush rush, Come on baby, sleep you don't get
you know, shovel no, snow, you don't even go through
the disc. You got to go.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So so I'm bouncing around a little bit because we
want to get through stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So it's a famous lot of jay Z said.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
He said, I sold you your first tech on tour
with large Professor is that true.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Well, I don't know if it was NAS's first time
seeing the tech. Okay, the story is true. The story
he did pull out a tech on the bus.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
On not on like he ain't pull out like no,
not on the whole bus.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
We had a little problem on DC. I think it
was DC. I really strongly believe it DC. And so
what happened was is you know it be them curfuse.
Once you get out of New York, it be like, yo,
he's gotta cut this at too, or something like that.
So it was like kept running and running, and by
the time we were supposed to perform, they was like, yo,
y'all can't even get So it wasn't even the faculty,
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it was the crowd that was like, yo, nah y'all,
y'all got to perform. Like so the crowd was kind
of coming at us, and so they was like, we're
big up my.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Man, big hat man. HARRYO.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Fobbs Man was like, yo, yo, come he in the
biz video man, he's in the something for the radio,
Big high man, big up man. He was like, yo,
y'all come this way. It was Jade.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Jazz me Nas.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I I think Joe Ruin them might have even been
there because Earth was on that on that tour too,
and we all got on the bus and Jay was
It was funny because Jay was in the back. He
was in like that you know that that that woman
you're going in the row, in that seat that you
could see when you're going back, like that seat that
looks at the person that's walking.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And sure enough you got the jump bag and shit.
He was like, yo, Na, you ain't gotta worried about nothing,
and ship.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
You know you got that, you had that heat, you
got that heat. I was like, who man, thank you man,
Like you'real I got records, but you know, I ain't
even heard like yeah that she was all right man,
that she was all right?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Big up, Jake, did you you know because hearing the
stories these are these are probably two of the biggest
rappers in the world, two giants. Did you see them
in competition from the beginning or did that?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Is that something that developed? Really?
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Man?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yo, I did not see like that whole little scrap.
I ain't see it, man, you know, because Jay was
just super cool and he had his you know, he
got his bread. So I'm like, I ain't understand, you know,
but you know, for the sport he you know, we
we were sportsman too, you know what I mean. So
for the sportsmanship side of it, you know what I mean,
it was just like yo, let me, let me, let me,
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let me ruffle some feathers real quick. And it was
good because it bought Nas. It brought Nas ted that
other lane or like yo, you know how to back
him off too, like you know how to say that
fly guy thing, you know, but he also know how
to back him off.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
So it was good for Nas man.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Like you ever heard the original ether, I was there
when they recorded it, the original one. I was come out, ok,
I was we was over there a jungle, where is everybody?
Was there? He that's the leader plane crash line.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, we was. We was wilent that would came out.
I would have been.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It was crazy. It was crazy. It was you know
what it was. I felt like when I heard it,
I felt like that was emotional. Nos, it wasn't a strategic.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But that's why he got strategic when he got the
slower beat and then he got you know, bufferted a
little bit because there was some lines in there.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I was like, lou, yeah too crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
But still in all it was one of the greatest
battles of all time.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, it was. I remember New York.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It was Battle of the Beats, and I remember walking
into a meeting and Battle of the Beats came on
and I was like.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Fuck this meeting. I just said fuck it outside in
the radio, I mean, turn on the radio. And I
missed the whole meeting. I could not move.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I could And I tell you the closest thing that
came to that was after Drake dropped and dropped no
meet Mail and then when fuck Master Flex said I
got meat Mail's response and I straight up called my wife.
I was like, I'm missing my flight. I have to
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hear this.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I can't. I can't.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
She's like, you have to hear what I said. Meek
and Drake is dropping both records today.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Drake and Comic was kind of too Drake and comed
do to Cuban Comic kind of.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Crazy comments called him Canada drive like that on that ship.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
What Some of the greatest hip hop records Beach Records.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Ice Cube against n W. I hate the bridges over
the bridge, I hate the bridges over. I can't stand it.
I cannot listen to one of the best, one of
the best.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
You are cubebo ro like bro, bro, if I tell
you this man, Yo, there's just reaching footage of that
man performing that song like blocks away from left rack, like.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Just yes, you want to see me. I can't attend
that man. I can't attend that man. Can't the whole
It was so dope about carriers.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
One chairis woman do a performance and give you a
whole speech and you don't even know you in the speech,
like he's a legend.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
But we had empty Shan on here. Shanny let it go,
but she did not let Shannon. Shan is a prophet
man and Shane. Let's Shane do Shane, Shane. You could
learn from Shann speak up to empty Shad. That ship
(18:33):
was wild that that episode was wild list. I had
no control. That was a great episode.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Too much snow he was big and snow up too much.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I'm gonna say that is interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
He's big to show up way too much, Shane, come on,
come on, God listen.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
By the way, I didn't even know that it was
a part over there exists. He was the black person.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
We're just thinking the costant crevices and was amazing.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
It was amazing. Man, you got quick Thomas Love, look
is ready? You got that hookah smoking at uga, Holy movie,
gacka morning. I'm ready for kricking the.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Man roll wadded in the building. Oh look at that. Yah,
you got the old lady for dinner. Oh Supreme, Supreme,
Supreme in the fielder.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
That's he.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That's some more he was. He was like, yo, yo pee.
You know, because we've been hanging out, you know, around the.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Way or whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
He was just had the sweet chick joint, chilling with
the rock Marcian alchemist joint. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
He's like, yo, man, Oh gee man, it's time for
you to.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Do these champs.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Man. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I was like, Supreme, if you say man, if you
say all right, man, and.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
We've been trying to do it for a while, you know,
but you know you you you're absolutely a legend. Man.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You deserve a few hours. And that's what our show
was about. Show was about, you know, giving the mother flowers,
that giving the und the flowers.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
But yeah, because in our game, like when you have
ten years or more, people want to, you know, call
you washed up and say you know you're old that
when when.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
That's that's that's not true in no other genre of music.
It's only true in hip hop. So we want to
change that.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So that's depending on how you looking at it, you know,
because because washed up trying to get you clean.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You know, the bat that they don't mean it in
a good way. No, no, they mean it mind bo.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
So you know we wanted to give your flowers. Man,
you know said you deny that. Man, it was crazy
about it. Man, Yeah you're just your boris and yeah
you got the calm. Fuck damn yeah, distracting me, distracting.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Oh but you're the scography.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
What who's the favorite artist you would like to work
with that I would like to work with.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Or that I did both? Okay, one did you say
you have?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Definitely I got I gotta get. I mean I got
I just recently got a locks locks joint.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
But I gotta get a dolo Jada.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I've been had my styles Me and Styles that's brothers
that he from. You know he originally from Corona, right
he did tell us, Yeah, styles from Corona. So I
got with him, and I gotta get a dolo loots joint.
So I gotta get like a dolo Jada kiss joint
and a dolo lose joint.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Doctor Dre Nigga said, the locks, Yeah, the locks, that's crazy.
That's that's easy.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Somebody, doctor Dre or what me and Dre rhyming on
something that would be hard, that would be beat together.
Oh now he do the beat, not just rom on.
That'd be that boy man for years. That that's that's no, No,
that's that's that's hard.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I can see that. I can see how that studio session.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Look yeah, yeah, yeah, and the bombs bursting the air
over the studio and ship. Motherfucking fireworks burst the whole session.
Fireworks just going on the whole session.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Who's who's your favorite artist to work with? That grist
the rhymes get out here and these times this you
know it varies throughout the throughout the days and years,
but I would say right now because he he busts
stayed on active duty like some dudes flip fade into
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the you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Best that should get right and ship and another one
I would like to work with Man my man, fat Man,
fat Man.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Thigga's name in New York.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Frank Sinatra, you got some real.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
New York to shure man. You know how it is man,
you know that's where I'm at. Man, that's where I'll
be at. Bab and the locks. That's your dream collapse.
Oh no, he said he had the locks. You said
you had. Yeah, I got the he got a dolo
jada and looks joint. Yeah for sure, Okay, sure, I
mean there's many more. I got a to do list,
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you know, I got a long to do list. Man,
That's that's what to keep me here. Oh man, I
just said some of the Grand Master Caz. Actually, if
you want to go to the other end of the
that's crazy and it's and it's fire fire. So I
just sent poets something. We're gonna go back to New
York now because you know, hold on all right, So
now if you want, if you want to talk about
(23:25):
all this, Like young Droe was always ill to me,
Young Droe was always super ill to me.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
T I is always l to me. I can hear
you and I together on the joint Ross Ross Ross.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's luxury balls right there. You got some luxury balls
on it. Yeah, now yo, all that man, Now we listeners.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Man, we've let yo. Man, why you don't you know
what song? Don't get enough credit?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Man? The ship you and Pete Rod did Man that
vitamin ship. Man that ship.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh my god, I got a man. Yo.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Listen, man, everybody right there, put that song on your
platefist and go sit in the staircase somewhere. Go just
go sit in the staircase with a bottle of something
and listen to that ship. That ship is and you
have your own part our joint.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Oh yeah, that was my favorite on that. I was like, man,
why this do wait so long? Man?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
We didn't been yo this dude, man, But the industry
does that. You know what I'm saying. It does that.
You know what I'm saying, like, Yo, no, you old
school transit you know all that ship. I'm like, there's
plenty of him.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I've been wanting to work with you. But that was
a great thing. And you know what was great about that.
I was just speaking to my man Hazardous and he said,
you know, you were his joint and then he goes,
oh yeah, he goes, he goes with Prodigy And that's
how powerful to has did the whole on mega album,
YEA Sounds Engineers.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Saying that's how powerful it was.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
He he mentioned it like it was me, you and
Protiesty because Producty was in the video. At the time,
people thought me and Prodiesty was beefing. So we did
like like a a stand office and then we smacked five.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And it was all love you you were you.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I know, I see what you're doing man, I see
what you do man, and you you definitely be taking
that page out of oxbook where you where you? You
know what?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I'm the whole, Yeah, the whole. I mean it makes
the whole. You know, bro, what wouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
The show?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So right, come on, you gonna quick caraspin straighten the rules,
will give you two choices. I ain't drinking, no crazy ship.
Speaker 9 (25:47):
This is an shots of that. Okay, so two choices.
You picked one. We're not drinking, but you say both
are neither we're drinking, so you gotta pick one. Basically
all right, you don't have to.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Be I could do that. All right. Let's set it off.
You go for a bigger or big.
Speaker 10 (26:05):
L get my shot ready though, let's say big L okay,
got any good big L stories?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
The picture of his album cover, that first album cover
is my grandmother building. Oh wow, wow, that's that's where
I went. That was Grandma's house. You know what I'm saying.
When I was coming right there on the Hunt thirty
ninth for Linux, that's Grandma's house, you know what I'm saying.
So that's where I was going for Thanksgiving, all that,
you know, all that fly ship we do. You know
(26:40):
what I'm saying, We go see Grandma's ship. That's where
I was going. And plus, because you know Big Big,
no Big is the same, were the same age, you
know what I'm saying. So Big that boy, he's in
my heart. I never got to work with Big though,
right Man.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I met him once. He was going to get them
chip phones.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Man, I remember, man uh uh fucking my man fresh
Gold and was shipping the phones at the time and
ship and bust Bus had to plug this shit and
he's like yo pee And so I went and bus.
They had like a long night, I think, and shit,
and he was still up for the morning and shit,
and he's like, yo flat Bush. So I met him
and she was Bus was living right there and on
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flat Bush Avenue like right downtown, like yo. Honestly, right
now where he was living is diagonal from where the
ball Clays is.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
That's where he was living. So he's boom.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I came He's like, Yo, I'm gonna make one stop
and then he stopped off and dropped big Olf and
I was like, oh, shoot you out of that. Nigga
was like yo, He's like, yo, give me a beat man.
I was like yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
And that was it, man, Biggie on a large prov
been crazy, that had been crazy. Now.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I felt the connection because, like I said, were the
same age. So I felt the connection, like and he
was just a wild out nigga, Like we was wild
out dudes, like all that barbecue shit. Oh there's some
wildout shit I'm saying so like and he just said
some wild out ship. He was saying some flagrant like
wild ship at the time, you know. So I felt
that vibe, like Yo, it was the same along the
(28:09):
same lines as nots Wow or DMX dm Max read
some Peace both Lost Boys or ONNYX Lost Boys. I
grew up with mister Cheeks. We used to break dance
in the hallway. God, we just had cheeks on.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
That's that first time, the first time he's ever talked
about freaky tow on camera.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I didn't realize that I was.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I was that's he big up Jay Raft, Chief of
staff Man for whatever. That's that's that's who I grew
up with in Flushing, and that's Cheek's cousins. So he
we was like breakdancing days, like from way back, like
me and mister Chief. As a matter of fact, on
Main Source album, on the break In Adams album, there's
a shout out to Lost Boys on it, way before
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they came out.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Wow, and there was just a crew.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
They was just a crew. Yeah, that's that's the Cheeks. Yeah,
I mean, super love to my man. You know when
I see it, you know we're gonna get together and ship.
My man, fred gioe motherfucker stick yo. Because my story,
my my peripheral story to that is shallow, Shot Skills.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
The man that produced the Onyx album, you know, the
first Hox album, Slam Throw your Guns. I grew up
with Shallow. You know what I'm saying, Shot Skills, that's
my man. He grew up in Flush building, you know
what I'm saying, down cold and ship. Like some of
them records that was used for the Onyx album is
my records, you know what I mean? Like he was
you know what I mean, Like we that was flush,
flush and shallow and Mike like that we we're gonna
(29:34):
get into that or not, like, yeah, we got a
little we got a little powers.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, yeah, because we gonna come back because we go
through this Cormega or Mike Geronimo.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Cor mega he said it like that cormega now cor mega.
All right, Now my story with Mike my Geronimo. When
my parents said, yo, you could go outside by yourself
for the first time, the first person I met was
Mike Geronimo.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Wow, I think he said that here. No, no, yeah, yeah,
he's did.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
When they said when I always had to go outside
with my posts and my sister whoever whatever, And the
first time they said, yo, you could go outside by yourself,
the first person I met was Mike Geronimo.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Mike Geronimo, where was this that?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
And call out Flushing Queens? Yeah, call out tower was
Flushing Queens, New York. I remember that was my first friend.
And he called you Paul or something Paulie.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah. We don't never call you pall we call you
lost the festival, was Paul. No, that was me man, Paulie.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Man. That's that's how your sister would know me, sister, Paul. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
ASR ten or SP twelve hundred.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
As R ten absolutely because the SP twelve hundred. I
want to explain some of these destitutions because the SP
twelve hundred I was. I was, I was fed up man,
because I was trying to hold on to that ship.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Man, God bless moms man. Moms. My moms was like.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Cutting edge with technology, so like you know, it'd be like, Mommy,
give me the newer data. She's like, Mommy, give me
the new computer. All right, well what we're talking about?
Like all right, how much is that?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
You know what I mean? It's like she was she
knew what I needed. You know.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
She's like, nigga, you gonna go fuck them sneakers up
this shit.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You I know you're going to. So it was that
type of thing. So I was.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I was always like s P twelve hundred out, I
might have died in a grave like they might have
like been burying me with like with the s B
twelve hundred, like that's how much real? Like and and
then like Rizzi and all these dudes mo b, all
these honorable producers they start coming out and then like
(31:43):
you know, I'm geek out and ship I'll be like, yo,
what machine you using what's this and you know saw
yo the ASR ten to three thousand of this that now,
fuck that SP twelve hundred man, that's that's my ship.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I'm killing them with that.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
And then the reason why is because the s B
twelve hundred, when you tune your drums, it's gonna start
crapping out. On the ASR ten when you tune your drums,
it will sustain and simply, you know, just just functions,
you know what I mean, the ASR ten does more
than the SB twelve hundred.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
That's why I say that good right, so great, Produce
the fucking breakdown right there. Your next one, it goes
right into the next one analog or digital.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Analog, the analog with that analog and then and then
you could go to digital because it's going it's gonna
preserve that analog. That funk that that bump from the analog.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
See, no one's ever said that's the smartest way to
answer that is because you can you can do. You
can start an analog and then you can transmit the
digital digital.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That funk, that bump whatever that is that you got
an analog that you know what you're doing, Get on
it's going.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And then you just did did you you know?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Did you always say that's far because you have always
say that the music back then was better because of analog, because.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
We had to make it together. It was a community.
Analog made it community. Right now, you can send me
a beat. I could be in Paris, who's unprofessional. You
could be in Paris, I could be in Russia and
we can still make a record together. But if we
both in Flushing, if we both in left right, were
both in Quezan, were both in power Play studios, how
much better would it come? With y man hands on.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Like it?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I got my man.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I was just working the other day with my dude,
Dennis Kellman man yo, and we was doing it like that.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
He from he from the Hurst, from East Elmhurst.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
He on the rise. Yo.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
We was in the lab doing it like that.
Speaker 11 (33:33):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I was actually in the studio. I had the drum machine.
He was in there like it was crazy. I was
like damn this, you know. And then the the engineer,
James Mullen, he's like power Play alumni. So we in
the building are still there. The building is still there,
you know, axing them is still in there. You know,
do you know Axes, Axes still there man, Hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Okay, Illmatic or ready to die.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, Allmatic. I would say so too, Sirmatic, nas j
Z drink drink.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's Champagne anyway, because you're talking about two cool niggas
that made it.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Man, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, damn,
you could take a drink.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, I take a drink to both of them about
the worried up.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Now he's gonna he's gonna look Sampaine. I'm gonna sick
with Champagne to I'm gonna take a look.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Like they both they both they both project brothers. They
both project brothers that made it. You know what.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You can see them in versus.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I mean, honestly, I think Jay will win because he
got just a lot more like just people anthems, you
know what I'm saying, Nas got like And it depends
on the setting also, like if we like down the
block at museum like that, Nas, you know what I mean.
But if we like in some arena or some type
of ship like that, like I think Jay because just
like you know, like us, he just got them people
(35:09):
anthems that it's just it's bananas, like you know Na's
got them heaters though, Na's got motherfucking on the reel.
See that's how now kill him if you just go
to the gutter like now for like on the reel,
dud uh, motherfucking I did it my way up the side, Yeah,
the B side.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I just caught it.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
A double of that album on vinyl. Uh, the lost
tapes and the other joint. What's what's the joint? We're
listening to, news man. You gotta love it, You gotta
love it. You gotta love it. Clears a lot of
ship out. You gotta love it, clear a lot of
ship out. A lot of niggas got like they you
gotta heap up like four, five or six songs because
(35:50):
Nas could just put on put you gotta love it
back on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
It's just clear niggas if he was performed the whole.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
And no ideas original, no ideas of original, so he
got he's just not paying attention to them heaters like
he got heaters that if he switched his show, he
gets treacherous, It gets tangerous. Were like you you gotta
(36:18):
start doing that vitamins on stage in your show. Big
up rod Digger because we was in v A and
we're doing the show. As a matter of fact, you
was on the show. We were red man. You I
think I was there with d I T. C.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Law for them.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
It was a nice show and v A and Rod
Digger was we was she was doing a sound check.
I was like, Digga, you doing that that Pete Rob
joint And she was like, I don't know. And I
was like, nah, you got to, you got to. And
I seen Nigger like not too long ago. She's like,
I'm still doing the Pete Rock was like, Yo, so
you too, man, you gotta do that Pete Rock ship.
(36:59):
That vitamin ship is crazy. Everybody get that on your
playlist now that ship crazy juice or New Jack City
Juice Juice je Juice is hip hop like that. That's
me right there, like that pock is in Juice like crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
That inspired me to Yeah you ever met Hell, Yeah,
you call me Professor Maine Sauce.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Professor Main Sauce.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Was because they you know, Cali, Cali, I think they
like that on the Friendly Game of Baseball. Joints.
Speaker 12 (37:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I was.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
No, no, no, motherfucking faking the that.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I'm ready, yo, But they rock with the friendly game
of baseball joint and so you know, like I had
a lot of love early from Cali brothers, like they
was like, so pack was one of them, man, he
was always like, Yo, that's my nigga Professor Main Sauce
with some.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Baby I got to flick.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
You met him underground digital underground No right when he
was getting ready to right when you do to his thing.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, it must have been kind of crazy though, when
everything started popping off.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Oh, when everything's yeah, no, I mean because it's just
another one of them brothers. That's just like popping off.
Like it's like the fireworks. You just see them ship
start popping off. You like, oh ship that one, Oh
that one over there. It's like that with everybody, Like nah,
it's like apatche Like you know what I'm saying, Like
you just seeing everybody popping off, Oh ship who MC
(38:38):
or dje DJ because you were're running your mouths that shit,
ain't you know what I mean? You gotta keep running
your fucking mouth. Just keep running your mouth, you know
what I'm saying, Like, Oh, all right now, but just
playing some tunes. That ship is forever. We could do
that ship for fold one hundred thousand hours. You know
what I'm saying, to shut your fucking mouth, like listening
(39:00):
to the records and shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, yeah, who did you rap on for Ness? Oh man,
that's gonna.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Definitely be another drink right there. I love both of
them brothers, man, I love yo because for Neess, for
Neess first and foremost, both of them is bosses. You
know what I'm saying. I'll tell you the sort. Like
for Neess was the first brother that came to me,
like you know, in New York, we was kind of like, yo,
the offices, the office, you know, the office. We wasn't
(39:31):
like them brothers down South where it's like yo, fuck
that we're gonna press our own ship up and do
what we do, you know what I mean. He was like, Yo,
We're gonna go to the office real quick, see if
we could get it by so. But Finess was one
of the first brothers that came to me and was
like I finished the remix. I'm like yo, so you know,
I'm go to the office and she's like no, no, no,
I got you like, I got you like and he
reached in his pocket and was like bomb that's you
(39:52):
right there and ship and I'm like, oh shit, like
So that was one of the first brothers I seen
like boss up like on his own, like where he
was all in nigga. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You know when you get the budget for that. We're
here the.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Budget and you dispersed the funds, you know what I'm saying,
not the label like he was all in nigga, Like, yo,
I give me the whole budget and I'm gonna disperse
the funds. So and g rap Man g rap actually
like that brother.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Man. He rapped from Corona.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
He's from Yeah, of course I remember him living in
Left Rock at one point.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
No, he was heavy and left Rag Shannon is still
out there, man, like all the people still out there man.
And yeah, g Man g taught me like like the
finer things, you know what I mean. It's like treat yourself.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
He like that.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Not caviall, but like you know, shrimp scampy, shrimp scampy.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
That's that's basic diner ship, you know. I mean, I
wasn't when you when you're young. That's that's already up there.
That's up the yo. Listen, man, I tell you a
funny story. I'm gonna tell you a funny story.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Me and Fatal follow Eric B and Freddie Fox around
for like for like a half an hour, like an hour,
and they went to the Buccaneer dining. The buck used
to be on the ass story here right boom.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
So we we went in there.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
We're sitting at the other table over there. And ship
we got like we we we could if we if
we get something to eat, man, we we kind of
dead in the water after that, Like yo, if the
gas went out on this ship, we dead in the water.
I mean it's good we get local. But all right,
you know every b he happy. He was like, yo, man,
get them brother something to eat man, Like yo, yo,
So we you know I come from that type of
(41:35):
ship man. So you know, g Rap showed me like, Yo,
treat yourself man. Like we was in Queen Center, Like Yo,
Paul man, you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Get some kicks.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Make yo, Paul, get some kicks man right out ship
me and Queen Center and ship.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I'm like, Yo, what g Rap getting buying kicks? Like
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Like that ship was crazy man, Like you, Paul man,
what you're gonna get the steak man? What you gonna
get You're gonna get the Yo. I'm like, now I'm
getting ready to get a burgers nigga, get the strict.
I'm like, I'm gonna do that. Man, See what that
life is about, you know, Yeah, drink that one absolutely yeah,
man of super ill lyricist. Man, we we wanded off.
(42:16):
They don't even remember the subject matter. But Yo, it's
crazy man, big up g rapping for nets the Lords
or Brand Nubian Jungle Brothers.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Nah. Now, but let me see. I mean that says
a lot.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Say let me see tribe called quest of Brand Nubies.
You know, you know for a fact that I'm gonna
definitely say the tribe because that's that's that's my that's
you know, I'm a part of the tribe.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
I'm a part of the tribe like.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
That's you know, that's that's that's my family that embraced
me after Main Sauce dissolved for me. You know what
I'm saying. Q Tip was coming due. He was like, Yo, bro,
we're not gonna You're not gonna be in no great
area and no time like nigga you actually getting ready
to be better than you was.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Just just just come through.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
I'ma come get you know, come through here and there
Dah dah and Yo Nah tribe man, but big super
super big up to Brand Nubian because them brothers are
still on active duty and they they they Yo forever man,
like those is the dudes I was on like when
when my run was strong with Maine Sauce, like a
(43:26):
lot of them bills was Maine Sauce, Brand Nubian leaders
of the New School like you will see them flyers
like in Denver and here like with those with that
same line up, so big up Brand Newby and that
was those was the road dogs, big like we're big.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Up John scott Man, that was the road dog too.
That was the manager road Managers.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Sh Midnight Marauders or low in theory. I'm gonna say
low in theory because you know that was that was
more when they was your faces on Might Maradas though. Absolutely,
my hands, my soul, my heart is all do that
man for real?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Now for real?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
That that's that's he bicked me up all through that album,
because that's when that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
They embraced me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Like they brought me in like as a collaborator with that,
and it's like, yo, you know, like how you feel
about this? And it was like, oh ship, Like yo,
I'm able to say something about a tribe, call quest
record and give input into it, like, yo, I think
you need to rock the Brotherren drums with that? All right,
(44:31):
let me try it, yo. That ship worked like I'm
gonna fuck with it.
Speaker 9 (44:38):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Fife was probably one of the most competitive. Let me yo,
A lot of people. I've never said this story. A
lot of people don't know this. He didn't like that
jacked his lie what line? He goes, both know this
and bo no, jack wow, because I said what did
I say?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I said, no, we know this and don't know that?
But real no, gad wow because Norri buck that and
Fife was always like you kind of destroyed my ship
and I was just like what, I'm like, oh, gee,
I'm giving you love. He's like, no, I want to
take one of your lines. Norri I was like yo,
like to the versus like he was like, it's a
(45:20):
good way, a good way.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
And when you hear stories about Kobe Bryant and you
see like Michael Jordan's sees a mathic Johnson and he
goes where your sneaking?
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Is that right now? Like that's who fight reminded me of.
So I missed, I missed the ship out of the
fight man versus I am going to take a shout out.
I am going to take a shot.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
We used to no, we know, we used to sit
in in his grandmother's basement. Tip had a set up
in there. Uh and they was like, my grandmother Tips grandmother,
Fight's grandmother. Okay, that's the that's the one that's right
there about the cleaners. Okay when we to check the
rom okay video So diagonal diagonal from there is on
(46:04):
five grandma's crib.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
That's where the.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Mural is at and all that, the tribe mural and
all that. So yeah, we used to sit in the basement.
That's when they was working on midnight marauders and Yo,
he used to just be sitting there just watching the sports,
the sports run down, playing the video games, just listening
to us going at the beats. You know, he'd be like, yo, nah,
that ship is all right right there. You know, you like, Yo,
(46:26):
this shit crazy right here. Me and Tipping They're like, Yo,
this shit crazy right here. You're like, Yo, that's all
right right there. But he watching TV like you know,
sitting to the side and ship just listening.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, fight fight, that's my man. Take that drink. Yeahdvor
Bismarck and to them as well, to them as well.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
I'm gonna say O d B. Really, I'm gonna say
O dB, because O d B encompassed it all like
Biz was just like he Biz. What I realized after
all these years was that he just always appealed to
a child in us. Always, he always appealed to the
to the most innocent part of our lives. I ain't
look at it like that.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
No, the point that he did Yo gab him and
forty five King.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
No, actually, this this was I'm.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Gonna be honest. My my comedic sense I got I
didn't get from comedians. I got it from Biz. Mark
me trying to mimic Biz because I thought was when
when when I heard picking Booker's I thought that was
the most genius because I was, like I pitched it.
I visualized him doing everything that right, It's like to.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Have fun, like to have you see you see how
you see where like that hit the strip right now
right he's Molly ma or Q tip Molly Molly Mollie,
(47:54):
Oh my god, and Q Tip would say Molly. Q
Tub would say, Mally Man. Mall is the father of.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Hip hop production period.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Like I was gonna say queens, but like Perriod, like
Mally's production and hip hop like that.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I always like, we're all a part of my leaning. Man.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Listen, man, when I like because Mally Scratch, Now, when
I listen to it, because that was one of the
first I remember, bro I listened to the radio, I
listen all that ship.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Man.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
I remember, Man, when Molly Scratch came out, ship changed
because he was starting to use samples and it just
sounded like some old It sounded like he took some
ship off the flintstones, like the drums was off the flintstones.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
It was sounded like some bed rock ship.
Speaker 7 (48:42):
It was like.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Like a nigga was doing that ship on rocks and
sticks or some ship. And I'm like, damn, this ship
is ill like it's but it's it's it's the equivalent
of how we were doing that ship in the lunch room.
So I'm like, oh man, this is starting to translate
a little different. Were coming out of it like that,
you know, because they was doing the band. It was like.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Map and know all that ship like all right cool.
So now he was breaking it back down to them, Yeah,
leaving like the disco sound too. Yeah, and no high hat.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Ship like that, and so it was like, all right,
where we going because this is our language now, this
is the language we speak like. No R and B
person could come in here and say, oh you did
that wrong and nothing like that. You know that's out
of key or nothing like that. This is our language
now that we speak. And if the ship is wrong,
we like it.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
And we rocking. That ship is uniquely hip hop exactly.
That's what we rock.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
So yeah, nah, I'm always the father that like. You know,
we we get busy man.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
The motherfucking building, young bro, young broke. That's my young bro.
Like man, you too, you know that. You know that's
young bros right there. Lord oh my young girl was
in the building. Man.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Cali need to be here too, MANI Kali Man.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
That's young Bro's a alchemist. I would say, dolcumists yesterday.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
I love a man. Alice my brother too.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
That's young bro to man Like al is incredible man
and he's just he's the mind boggler. Alix another you
are mind boggler too, but and trash trash to mind
bottler too, you know. For yeah, al Man, big up
my man, A L A L Ski.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
DJ Clue took a shot. I'm in, I'm in, Jamie,
get another shot. I'll catch up.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
I love both of them, brothers. Can you give Tyler
Qually some Japanese whiskey here? He has no choice? Exactly
my point, exactly my brother. You know you bro? Yeah,
you got the next one? Yeah, n PC three thousand
and two thousand, Uh.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
The NPC, I would say the three thousand because the
sound is it's just that it's that thick sound, all right.
So what did I do on the three thousand?
Speaker 2 (51:12):
I did?
Speaker 1 (51:12):
I did rewind on the three thousand, Yeah, I did.
I did that on the three thousand. I did uh
state chisel on the three thousand.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
And like the two thousand, the two thousand, that's Jay
Love's thing. Jay Love is the two thousand, DJ j
Love up, Big up Jay Love, man, he do his
thing with that. But I ain't never really get into
but the three thousand was like that thick like it
just got that that that like yeah, like you get that.
Speaker 13 (51:44):
Fat describe Yeah, for sure hip hop. Sure, I know
that's that lab top. I probably know the answer to
this one. The actual sample or playing the sample over.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Oh, the actual sample, the actual sample is funky. It's funky. Oh,
it's funky. It's off the record. It's off the You
gotta have it off the record, man, you gotta have
it off the record. Bro, man is funky like that. Man,
you gotta keep it funky. Pete Rock, Pete Rock, my
Man and Rashaw Smith. Yo, it's so many Lord for
next man, oh yo, just blaze, you know, man, we
(52:23):
keep it funky.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
We keep it funky. Jungle Brothers or that I saw.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
For for now because I said this, I said this,
and you know I love Daylight yo too.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
But it's definitely the Jungle Brothers because they they was
the first brothers out and they.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
When you see them perform, they've been performing a.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Lot lately, man, and you just you see how much
sprouted from them brothers. Man, like yeah, just the native
tongue us.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
At Jungle. The JB's ain't really get they just do.
I think they may be not really.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
How everybody was, you know, like I said, you got
to think it was like the fireworks he was like,
oh ship, that little redby Oh ship that like everybody
was popping off. And then it was like you know
what I mean, like some people they fireworks.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Was a little line in my time. In my generation,
I think the younger brothers dig I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
The JB's that's crazy. What's another one? Girl out househo?
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Girl house?
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Okay, what's another one? Jim Browski, can you name one
without me prompting you?
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Okay, Baby's directory. We mixed up with what Man? We
got the mixes READYO what Kanye or Forrell? Oh Man?
(54:02):
I might have to drink to that because that's both
young bros.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Kanye forgot when he gave me when he showed me
love like it's funny. I still haven't met Kanye. What
sall ain't mean Kanye? That's crazy word to this day,
and I had so much info for him. I got
this sample for him, man, this ship, this Manu to
Bengo joint. When they was doing the Nas and Kanye album,
(54:26):
there's this Minu de Bengo song where it sounds like
he's saying Kanye and Nas in the song wow. And
I wanted to get that message to them. But it be,
you know, when the industry shit start happening. Man, it'd
be so hard to get in contact with dudes how
you used to, you know, like I'd be like the
direct connect like yo, you know that's how I am sporadic,
like yo, oh shit, you heard this ship that type
(54:47):
of thing, so you know. But yeah, man, I got
a drink to that man because I love both them.
Yr Pharrell always show love. Man. I got flicked with
Pharrell like doing the du praying.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Hands and hugs and all that.
Speaker 8 (54:59):
Man.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
But I still ain't met Kanye.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Man, and I have so much info form, Like you know,
I got family in Chicago soul.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Maybe you don't want to meet it right now. No,
I'm not anytime. The good time musically it would be amazing.
Musically would be made the.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Difference, man, Man, Man, pick up your pops. Damn, I
am drink a gallon now you know what I'm saying.
You got to drink a gallon. That's crazy mob deep
or m O p mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Rest in peace, Prodigy.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Listen, man, I've been you know, because I've been DJing
a lot lately, so and on vinyl too. So I've
been having my vinyl I got my vinyl with you
be doing it and we should have bought that vinyl.
And I want to bring kind of you know, we
said floor yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
Trying to get I'm trying to get out of back
to DJing. But he got your vinyl. Yeah, I didn't
go digital. I didn't go right now you still just
do vinyl? Yeah at parties. Yeah, I prefer that because
of a man from from my so whatever. Who your
crew carries the crates? I do you? Yeah, that's for that.
(56:13):
How we did not work out in these days.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
Daily my people see me on the Long Island Railroad
daily like I'll be like, yo, boa my mans, yo,
dance lord stored up man.
Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah, and now we do.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
And I just the.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Queen trying not to say queens, you got the boat's
arms and he does. He can't even.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Became love system Mac word it up for life, pun
or prodigy, Damn to scorts man. My brothers to man
hell man, both of them niggas l and they was
relentless man like they say some ship man, just like
say some ship that might bother you. That ship might
(57:05):
bother you, you know what I'm saying. And you got
to live with that ship all right, Eminem stad case
Ship Stad case ship.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
M or bus man.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Em just shouted me out man in that speech. Man,
that's another brother I evern't met. Still when you asked when.
Speaker 3 (57:29):
I asked you earlier artist that you would like to
work with, I thought he was gonna say Eminem or
doctor Drade.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
He said, now m m man Yo, he was probably wild. Wow.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
Like if I threw a track up like I don't.
I don't know if I you know, because I sent
I sent things in before I sent to it working, yo,
send something. I sent things. So maybe him gotta come
bless something for me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (58:04):
Like maybe heard or just got everyone would destroyer lost
professor b I gotta get.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
I gotta give him that the best way I can
hear that I can hear. Oh my god, the bombs
were bursting.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
Like that's where we need to get with music, like
some of these collaborations that still need to happen, Like
I just recently did a joint with my man Al
Scratch from Scratch.
Speaker 12 (58:30):
Love It on Scratch Man, and they still do Dope Ship.
I've been checking out their new ship.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
Yeah, because That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
I did the joint with Ol Scratch and the ship
started ringing off everybody. Yo, it was your man lows Man,
classic material class loos.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
You know he's part of that. Like Yo, we didn't Yo,
we we got Whenever you come home man, you know, man, listen, listen,
let me get you, let me get you. Let me
give you a good example. Let me just say you.
I'm out here. Six months.
Speaker 3 (58:59):
My life is finally getting back together, right, finally getting
back together my here six months.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
I'm so happy with Eddie Giggs in the in the person.
Actually that actually, that is that time. It is that time.
Speaker 3 (59:09):
Yes, so it's fifth TV Eddie gas and then yes,
yeah it's unlimited.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
So so I go to New York. Forget what club
it is.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
It's on thirty it's like thirty fourths something and there's
off the Western Highway. So I'm coming with the Miami attitude.
I'm like, no, no, no, there's not tune.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
No, this is this is this is, this is the
two thousands.
Speaker 3 (59:29):
This is like fifteen years ago when I first moved
to Miami. And what I realized was when I come
back to New York, I have to be mad for
no reason. Like you can see look you have to
have that New York brother.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Brother. Listen, now this is what happens man New York.
Now you don't have to be mad for New York
can make you mad because you know, as soon as
you touchdown the fucking escalated old world, you got to
this other ship. Now this bush don't work. This ship
is right slowly, you know what I mean? Like, you know, yo,
even if you and you know you got the luxury
(01:00:05):
life and you're gonna do this, there's mad traffic. You
know you You're like, man, fucking let me just stop
off at Farmers and gets some budd real quickly.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
I'll be honest because when I first moved to Miami,
I wouldn't see a lot of people. And then I
remember when I was staying there. I stayed in the
Western on fortieth Street, and I went downstairs a smoking cigarette.
I still smoking cigarettes at the time. I went downstairs
smoking cigarette, and it felt like thirty thousand people just
walked by me. So I ran back upstairs to the
hotel and I was, you're New York, come motherfucker up.
Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
A pet.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
I went back downstairs, I smoked the bund and I
was like Yeah, motherfucker. You gotta realize like it's a
different world. See Miami is a party town, but if
you don't want to party, you don't have to party
out here. You can actually be low man. So but
you know I noticed that.
Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Now when I go back to New York, I gotta
build up my attitude. N w A or who take clan?
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
He pasted the BACONI nobody, said eminem of Buster no
Acanelian Nature. Oh you got to ask that. I just
did Nature. You know, I gotta go with our.
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Rock in the strip club right now, finger popping song.
Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Man, your shout Nature.
Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Shout out, Mama, love, shout out, Yachty, shout out.
Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Yo is my brother like like no other man. For real, Man,
I love Yo. Man? And who else was he against? Who? Nature? Oh?
Nate Nature? Come on, Nate Nature, your Maine, Baxter, Nate
because your main yachsta All right?
Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Well see Nate mean Nature, Me and Nate. Still, that's
another one of my peoples that I gotta you know
what I mean, I gotta get that working with you know,
like he we I think me and Nate might be
around the same age too. Yeah, yeah, for real, ya.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Nate is hell Nate. He's a slick, he's elusive. He'll
throw you off thinking n w A Wu Tang and w.
Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
A And that's ill because I just I just picked
up my vinyl of Etho Zagon, the n w A Joint,
the Ethoszagon, the Niggas for Life Backwards joint.
Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Oh yeah, that album is crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
So who you're picking, sir, let's talk about now. But
let's talk about that album now. But uh wou Tang Boutang,
there's too many motherfucking.
Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
For both of them is crazy. No, but it's too
many bangers.
Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
Lord.
Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Now it's just put me on to the to the soul,
the soul in soling the whole soundtrack banger.
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Well, that ship is crazy. I just got that on vinyl.
Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Like you talking about projects, You talking about heaters, you
talking about that Saint I's commercial, You talking about the storm,
you talking about it's too wul Tang really did what
they said. They came as swarm niggas with mad bangers. Man, Yo,
it's two when you are music person.
Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Like I am.
Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
I'm getting ready to do one fifty one on Avenue
C in l e S on June sixth, coming up.
Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
All my people's gonna come out.
Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
They're gonna it's gonna be packed in there, and I'm
bringing out all that Wu Tang I'll be bringing out
that Wu Tang shit. I'll be bringing out all that
produced by Pete Rod shit, all that adored, let it
all hang out and down with the king and all
that five ship like the Kings really killing or man crazy,
just bringing all that nostalgia back to youngins is right there.
My man laid for dinners in here. He's one hundred
(01:03:40):
percent down with that. This man's twenty like early twenties
and he's right there with that. Shit's like, yes, that's
what it is. So I feel great about these times. Man,
it's great times right now.
Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
So elkolj big that he can man take a shot definitely. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
I love both of them, definitely. Man, Yo, you can't
give it our little Japanese. Oh God, I'm watching, Yeah,
yes we are. Soon as you finished about.
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
It, bro came you know you didn't come out. Did
you hear it? Did you hear it? Because text me
the other day I heard that about it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I heard that joint I produced for for you, and
uh uh, y'all seen I never joined that you're gonna
professor bro yo, bro, what we got like six joint,
six sessions like yeah, it's fire my man, right yo,
yo were good man, you got yo get that?
Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
No, we and already we This ain't nothing that we
got to do or nothing. That's what the work is in.
Yeah y'all have yeah we yeah, we already. It makes
me feel bad because it's like I only got like
one or two songs with Flush, like one song with
you like this.
Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
We got the pizza joint. We got the pizza joint. CNN.
Speaker 14 (01:05:03):
That's the CN I'm taking take. I take a shot
for that, the CNN joint. Man, okay, Rock Kim okay Rest,
but k r Rass over.
Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Rock k r Rass Krst. You couldn't even say his
name earlier, but I guess so k R rest one,
KRS one. I would think you would pick rock him
because the rumor is now rock him. Rock him is
my big brother. He taught me. He taught me a
real lesson in life. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
He taught me to be more serious in life. You
know what I'm saying, that's the more serious person. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but we'll see Rock kim smile two times.
Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Yeah, no, no, I see it, Yo, we you know.
Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
And that's the thing I got thrown off because we
used to actually joke like we used to, you know,
because he respected my musicality as much as I respected his,
you know what I'm saying. So we used to like
build and then we got past like all you know,
respect do shit. And it was like, Yo, we used
to bug out.
Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
A little bit. So but now Kall res one because
kill res one.
Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
He he comes from a whole different grain man that
niggas from the BX, from the original grain of that
ship man, and he got too many motherfucking bangers right now. Man,
Like I'm telling you, I want to talk about step
into a world. You want to talk about a friend
you want to talk about in here, I'll be putting.
Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Them ships up on the sea man, the MC big
up Domingo you man, okay, Primo or beat Rock.
Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
And you know what. First, the first thing that came
to my mind was that motherfucking firing squad beat Man
that m.
Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
O p It was bearing the board.
Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Ah Man premire that nigga is I love my brother
man and our birthdays of the same day.
Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I could tell, and we have both of them on
Dream Champs together.
Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
I can tell you they have to tell. They tell.
Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Jazz needed to be big up Chazz man. I love
Chad Well, who are you picking?
Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Drinking?
Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Now? We drink drinking?
Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
We drinking?
Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Man, Ye that's difficult, Yeah, okay, Havoc or DJ Monks.
Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Oh all right, my man, have man.
Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
I love have Man. That's my brother. Trash brought him
through my crab right. I was when I when my
name was starting to like really ring bells hard trag
on Like you know, I was very young and I
was working with g rap. I had already mally like
my my production for mister Intelligent Hudlam was already in,
(01:07:36):
so I was already had my feet under me, like
all right, cool, you got a credit, you got a record,
vinyl record with your name on the type ship. So
I was already. So now Trag comes through and he
got the young and tragic fatal like yo, the young
and he was just keewan.
Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Like yo, and you go on with Havings real name guy.
He was like yo. He looked over my shoulder.
Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
He was like yo, I'm gonna do that ship one day,
and I'm gonna get ill and he had to run
back home because he has Yes, that's fire, because he
had Grandmam's. He was like, Yo, we gotta get him
back and ship because he had like he was like
he wasn't even supposed to be gone from the bridge, right,
So it's like, yo, got him back and ship, you
(01:08:22):
know what I mean? Like, but half I've been on
the hill days they've been like, Yo, nigga, get upstairs.
Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Man finished that album, man, Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
That type of ship like have I've seen have and
his empasy of like production have is a is a
super like general king on production.
Speaker 15 (01:08:45):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Like you could never not let please let me like
embellish like because that brother man like, because you never
you like, what's what's the joint we always rock with
now is the the separated joint that be from the
set separated joy that it came in and the in
the late See that's what me and na is we
be having like the round tables. We be still listening
(01:09:06):
to catalogs like we go out to Hollis real quick
bo and we be listening. Yo, that's separated. Put that
on your playlist too. That ship crazy like and it's
a later production, Like so that's when you know, brothers
still got it, like when we did that and you
were still able to pop off in the ladder like
be cause it was like we thought the popping offs
was not popping off no more. It's like, nah, niggas
(01:09:28):
is still able to get this fire works call me
them firewords going and ship niggas spitting and ship. Yeah
we're good man, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
But to be fair, Mugs and I feel like havoc,
I feel like there is no have it though I know,
I know, but I'm saying I feel like that that's
a sound year, having just the West Coast and then Alchemists,
alchemists and they all they all collaborated.
Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Yoa's havoc though, Yeah no, no, yeah, we know we
know that we know a B Street across Groove and
I love mugs, Mugs.
Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Grandmoms live right up the block and Flushing Man. When
we we got grandmother your stories, we were just saying.
Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
That talk to my girl Kate, and I was just
saying that I don't know anyone on this planet who
didn't know their grandmother. I don't know anyone who everyone
I know says like their grandmother. I don't know, anyone said, Yo,
I didn't know my grandmother. That's a little crazy and ship.
But yeah, nah yeah for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
But b street a crush groove, Crush groove, Crush now
who you who you who you Cush school?
Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Yeah, crush groove now because that's Holliss, that's Holliss, that's
you know, that's that's where I live.
Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
You know I live in Holliss.
Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Man, So what oh yeah, oh yeah yeah no we
we yo, bro man we yo We Binge watched. We
Binge watched because I think like my cable was off
for some ship like that. It was doing them rough times, bro,
you remember them rough times. We were still making it though,
bro We motherfucking yo, I had to beat machine and
ships still going.
Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Yo. I had it on mute and.
Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
He's just Binge watching Binge watching Tougher than Leather and
Crush group Wes Binge watching We watch that ship every day.
Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
We was watching Tougher Lever and Yo.
Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
We just be sitting there laughing, just wilding, like running
them light because them niggas was have mad money. But
now he's making this wild movie and ship like motherfucker's
like got mad money and.
Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Ship and he watched the with the Fat Boys. To me,
that was a classic see you you wow you for Miami.
Class you nobody like that was a class We didn't wash.
Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I love.
Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
That's when the Fat Boys big up cool rock. It
was out here in Miami to absolutely man.
Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
But we didn't wow.
Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
I mean, I'm not this is a good funny movie.
I don't know. I don't know, because that's what you know.
Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
The fat the Fat Boys were starting to drift away
on Twitter and shout like that, like like yo, my
brother love.
Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
If you look up the word you, his picture has
to come back.
Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
He based on skill. That's the first record I made.
The first song I made is with my man Shallow
shot skills shallow.
Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
What she said, we're gonna come back to got you
man got big on my man Shallow. But that was
that was my man.
Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
He was my DJ at first and my first record.
The first song that I made with him was based
on skill. It his name based on.
Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
This is the last one for quick Time of Slim
and I'm gonna sell you how much of a fan
I am? Me and Draine is gonna battle, are gonna battle?
Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
All right? That wasn't a quick Time. It wasn't quick
at all, It wasn't break at all. Loyalty or respect
all right, let me let me let me carefully answer that.
I like like, I like that.
Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Loyalty or respect. Right, we gotta drink right if you
say both, if you want, oh, yeah, for sure, what
we usually say.
Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
That's what we usually that's what that's the easy, right answer.
Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Yeah, love, love is the whole, you know, I accompassed,
So drain that.
Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Drain here, let's do this. You got to set up
hold on. Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Because I mean I think one got to do the
other for the other.
Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
That happen for the other. Take away there, Yeah, yeah,
you gotta kind of do one for the other.
Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Like okay, well, let me just tell you something. When
this record came out, talking to you, brother, this would
be very proud of you with that piece.
Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Man. Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
He came up to me one time he was like
the glock, the right there, the drink. So Biz came
up to me one time he's like, yo, Paul man, Paul,
I'm never gonna call you, Paul. You always gonna be lost.
Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
You want to write to know you ain't Marshall. I
call it. I call him your real funny. What's so
funny is your real name?
Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
It's so funny because late lately I've been you know,
I've been getting that little writing thing, the feeling again
and ship, and I've been saying I've been wanting to
do a song called government.
Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Name Game, Government Name, I'm in, I'm in. It's so crazy,
And you.
Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Know, it's more on the female side, you know, the
female that may have you know, been out there a
little social She's always like.
Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
Well he named everybody's real government name.
Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Who did a record like that? No? Did I make
that up? Just now? Yeah, it's called the Name Game.
Now is he gonna be me? It's then I want
to show.
Speaker 16 (01:14:47):
You, do you know Paulie from fleshing this at this
point and him was bounding all day. They did that
on the here he was like, Yo, who got this?
Now listen, I'm gonna tell you man.
Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
By the way, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let
me just say something that is the hardest breakup record.
A lot of people don't realize it's a breakup record.
And that's what y'all know, saying y'all hurt, y'all hurt.
You say they heard He was like that's what they want. Well,
(01:15:22):
you know, the mirror a little exhale. I mean, I
don't like it's mo He said this like it was
my hold on because I believe I was here you're
(01:15:49):
a child and helping in hold on him hold on.
I didn't realize, he say, I told you looked at
the front door and walk through it. Yo, listen, bro man.
Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
It's so crazy because at that time, this is this
is left rag history right here. Man. Because the girl
I was down with at that time, we were telling
uh Sachema like we you know she Indiana.
Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Everybody that's like I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yo.
We was we was We wasn't good for you, No,
we was great. We was great.
Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
And I found out years later, like one of these
mystical people that I met, they told me they was like,
you wasn't talking about a relationship. You was talking about
a world problem. You was talking about many people's lives.
You wasn't talking about your own life. You was talking
about an umbrella problem that plagues this world for and.
Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
That's why these people.
Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Because I had to get I had to get like
therapy a little bit, not therapy, but like her therapy,
like you know, what I'm saying, it was like you
did to get through it right, to get through it
by because you know, I can honestly admit that my
life was kind of sort of sweet a little bit
now that I look back, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
I had mommy and daddy, big says. You know what
I meant. A lot was good in my life.
Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
It was a compan the hood. Who has a mother
and father, we felt, we felt rich absolutely my mother.
To be honest, I did not rich financially, but I was.
Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
I was. I realized, like you know, it wasn't until
like I actually started to go to like forty Projects
and Queensbridge and Brownsville, my cousins in Alvie Square Mall
and for Green. It wasn't until arrogant excuse me.
Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
I wasn't until I started to see that a broken
family is what makes you poor, not not financial, you
know what I'm saying. And I didn't really kind of
like realize that until I got older and I realized
that ship you said, you said something that was very
powerful earlier, you said grandmothers. You're right, a lot of
people didn't have they direct parents, but they had the.
Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Great everybody I know, there's nobody I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
I tried to raised by the grandparents. There wasn't which
is the matriarch, most family.
Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Most Yo, I don't know anyone who There's no one
who said yo, growing up, I didn't have my grandmother.
Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
But I was trying to think of that coming here
as a matter of fact, sitting there and.
Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
I was like, you know, people said, yo, NOA, my
grandpa's alive, my pops mama, but never their grandmother. That's crazy.
I knew my grandmother, you know what I mean, I know,
mad people. I was trying to think of somebody that
I didn't, you know, So that type of thing. That's
a good thing to think about. Man, So let me
ask you. This is like super super super rumor. I'm
(01:18:40):
not sure if it's a room or if it's true
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
But it's rumored that, look at all these rumors that
I believe the rhythm hit man.
Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
My man back there looked like Paul real quick, right,
he looked like Paul lep right there, right, Look, that's what.
Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Is your step. But it's rumored that Eric being rock
King was recording the album. Yeah, the producer, that producer
got killed or Paul C my mental al right, so
yeah and he was white, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
That's my mentor man, my man, Paul C.
Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
And that's beautiful that you bought that story up, because
it's good that the hood will now know about that
because your your show rejected to the hood. Like I
said to you, my daughter was like you do what drinking?
Yeah for real? So yeah, yeah, so on what happened was.
Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Because you was in high school at the time, I
was in I was in bound, I was okay, So.
Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
So what what happened was, like, yo, I think as
the story was told to me, Paul's wife was this beautiful, elegant, soul, beautyutiful, stunning,
stunningly beautiful black woman from Lowellton, Queens, you know, on
one you know. But and I knew her.
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
I knew her, you know, like it.
Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Was a beautiful marriage, a beautiful union. To me, you know,
it was it was the you know, the black and
white thing, you know. And yeah, man, Paul got killed. Man,
I guess the story was told to me, man that
Rock Kim was rolling or whatever, like one of his
boys tried to shout at Paul's wife, and Paul's wife
(01:20:34):
was like, actually, you need to, you know, speak to
my husband about some beasts because he's fire, you know.
And then rock Him was like, all right, well, you know,
let me see what's good with that. And then he
went seeing Paul and then actually seen that Paul was
fire and was like, Yo, we're we're gonna work. And
so they clicked the clack, you know that what they
had to do and shit, and then Paul was on board.
Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
We're working with everic.
Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Being rock Him and then met in an untimely demise
with you know what I mean, like someone coming in
his basement and shooting them.
Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Man, that's crazy, God bless Yeah. But then that's how
you you know.
Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Yeah, So I was in the studio with Paul had
lent me the SP twelve hundred. This is your lineage
right here. Paul lent me the SP twelve hundred that
I made intelligent hoodlum on you know, in all of
the trash joints that I made, you know what I mean. So, yeah,
it's it's thirty plus years now.
Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
Let me ask because a lot of people considered that
ghost producing.
Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Yeah, at the time, I didn't you know, that shit
didn't exist like ghost producing. It was just like you know,
because I was coming from the purest form of hip
hop right now. Shit, I'm like, Yo, you don't bite
that man. Shit, you don't you give that man credit.
You know that man's fresh, Yo, that nigga. Get that
nigga hog and bring him next to you, you know
what I mean? Like, Yo, that's my little nigga right here. Shit,
I bought him up, you know. And and you know,
(01:22:00):
everybody gonna do what they gotta do and ship they're gonna.
Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
Act right, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
That's what you did with tried right tras you do
the smart little man and she nice Boom you came,
you did ya, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
So that's that's the whole ship.
Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
So when you did it, you did it on the
strep of Paul. You did it on a strep for
knowing whoever being Rocket was.
Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
I did it on the strength for Fadal getting up
with every being and being like, Yo, I got Paul Protege,
Protege the brother that was working under Paul. Y'all probably
need to and then bom, yo crazy right and then boom.
This the story though we went out to wine dance.
(01:22:41):
Fatal was like Yo was Yo. We started we.
Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Started my friend from my friend Rah hand from from
from Wine Dance. Go ahead dogs.
Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
We started this trip at like like ten thirty eleven
at night on the Wine Dance because he had I
guess he they was doing to show something. He had
to bring something to rock Himp. So boom, we jetted
out there in the wagon. Here I mentioned the Wagoneer
and hanging out. Jetted out there in the Wagoneer and
ship boom. We went to this first house. It's like
seventy seven something something like that out there and ship.
(01:23:10):
They got a Jamaica ave out there in Wan Dance too. Wow,
so all that ship. So we went out there, there's
seventy seven joint and I was like, oh ship seventy seven, like,
oh ship, that's that's rock Kim. House is God God, Like,
oh ship.
Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
He wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Then we went to another house and then they they
called him from a basement and shit, he came up.
He had the blue BVD on this when he was
rocking the dress Rock Kim. Yeah, Rock Kim, and he.
Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Said, BBD, that's the shirt, that's the silk shirt. Shit
got the bony friend, he got the mad bony friend.
So we come out.
Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
But he got the dress popping down with ship, so
this is rock him out of his ultimate peak right
now when he did the dress. So he's like yo,
and I'm like, oh, Ship, this is the god right now.
You got this, you know, he got something stupid swoop
it around his neck. I was like, it's the guard
right now, like in my face, Like he was like, yo, word,
(01:24:04):
you the next poll all right, man, Yo, come through
the lab and Ship he told me. He told me
you want to be coming through the lab because every
I think, you know, I kind of linked with Eric
first and then they was like Eric was like, yo,
well go take him out there to rock him.
Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
See if rock kim on, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
And then and then I was like, ge checked my
I kind of get he said you were the next
Paul is what he told you?
Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Well he that's what he just said, because remember that
that was his predecessor was saying.
Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
And then now we got another poll girl, Paul out there.
Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Point and then Paul Leffe. You know, we got a
bunch of poles man, and we got to shout out
Fatal because you keep mentioning the like Fatal.
Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
He seems to be all this stuff Fatal is actually
the hub that kind of like because he was the
one that was going out there and Fatal got that.
He got that mind boggless ship. He could walk up
on you and and and talk to you, and you
would think that you knew Fatal for a hundred years.
You know, he just run up on you and talk
to you and it just be like like that type
(01:25:03):
of ship. So you know, they got Fatal and what
your brother.
Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
And yeah, and yo, am, come on back because about
to Yeah, yeah, talk to me, yo.
Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Let's keep the whole ship going, the whole ship. Let's
get the whole ship going. Burn it up. I see
you can't.
Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
I see I heard up. My man back to he
got he chilling back there, he got his drink, he
got to he got the.
Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Miami shirt on this ship.
Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
My man back there, she she got to say, he's
on the ship.
Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Burned up. We got the way day. I got Viney
with me too. I got my vinyl. Yeah yeah, yeah,
I love Yeah. Yeah, you give you that was nest.
But we have you you worry about, get you another one?
Yeah yeah you don't care, man, Yeah for you you
(01:26:01):
do this one.
Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
And yeah yeah, because they actually they actually on comrades
from yeh they comrades from a while.
Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Yeah, cora Is is a real one. And Lord did
you work at Yes he worked, yes, yes, yes, yes,
so like that man, yeah, yes, okay, worried up but
you you didn't hear what you just said.
Speaker 17 (01:26:29):
Just now okay, okay, alright? Cool had has on the audio.
Let me ask you because I got my young bro.
Good now yo, this is beautiful, man.
Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
But one of the one of the best New York
City songs of life. We had to get to lives
some of that smoking moving we got you whatever. Hell yeah,
come on one of my you know, New York City.
We have anthems from Fake Natra to jay Z. But
(01:27:02):
there's one special New York record. No, the Streets of
New York.
Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
A New York record, right, grap I did not know
you produced that? Oh yeah, me and Anton Poshansky.
Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
Cool, yeah, I need to know how this record was
put together. Oh yeah, nah. I came in with you,
all right.
Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
So I was doing nice school that you make a
high school. And so after after that I would go
in like she would come pick me up, and she
had that's when he had the white Maxima. He come,
he come down the block and shait I ride the
bus back home after night school. Shit. So I was
doing nice sessions when it'll be like nine ten o'clock
at night, and shit, she would come pick me up.
(01:27:41):
You know, my Mom's and pops was good. They knew
I was going out there to get some money, so
they was like, all right, go do what you gotta do.
So boom we knocking shit out. And you know, some
of them sessions ran into like three, four, five, six
in the morning and I have to dip the bound
no sleep type shit, you know what I mean, Like
just boom, touchdown and just have to boom, freshen up
(01:28:02):
and just dip the BWn real quick, you know type shit.
But Streets New York was one of them nights where
I just I came in, like because what I used
to do is try to get what is that on there?
The band bank Now he was playing a keyboard. All
of them is keyboards. Okay, he was he was.
Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
Bro the solo. That's when niggas was still doing solos
and songs and a hip hop right nine hip hop.
Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
So it was one of them because even like talk
like sex, that was the same thing. It was like
I would after school, after night school. Actually I wanted
to specify, like so I was, I would come home
and try to get a loop or two win real
quick before g would come pick me up. So I
get home like nine, and so he come pick me
up like ten. I try to like dice up like
(01:28:48):
two or three or four loops real quick before he came.
So that's how that happened. I diced that loop up,
and then I came to the lab. We hit the
lab and I was like, yo, boom this joint. And
then and Tom like when he heard it, he was like, yo,
I can do this and I can do that, and
he he just took flight on that ship big up
at on because he's really the one that we're talking
about with the solo horn and all that ship like
(01:29:10):
because he felt that in his soul, because I just
had a certain little I had a like a skeleton
for him. And then he took that ship to the
next baselines, playing horns, keyboards all that.
Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Let's name Great New York Records Streets is New York
Streets of New York, New York, State of Mind, New York,
State of Mind, Empires, state of Mind, High Tech.
Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
New York New York with Jada Kiss and all of
them on it.
Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
I forgot that one, that one and New York New
York Jarro Frank Sinatra, Yeah that was I forgot New
York Ship. Okay, I forgot that.
Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Dot X Escape from New York with d Do whatever
Pete Rod Production.
Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Now, I'm just fields you a nice play.
Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
When you look back, When you look back, you're gonna
listen camera.
Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Yeah. Yeah, but what about Ja? What about Ja?
Speaker 18 (01:30:13):
M y m P?
Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Yeah exactly and y m P the realist nigger.
Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
That's and why your loves bro the most that I
love them.
Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Pre roll for the Southern We yo yo yo, and
know we got yo, we got this smoking beas.
Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Thing happening man out here. Man never tried Japanese whiskey.
When Jay said it, I knew what even So you know,
does you want some big No, I don't know. I don't.
I'll be somewhere over there like sharing man.
Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
Ship my nigga Supreme in the building, Yo Yong supreme
in the hell.
Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Yeah, maybe you want to a glass of it? I
would like a nice neat. Yeah, yeah, I mean you
know what, I want a glass? You didn't get him one.
Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
We gotta give large pro one. We gotta get think right.
Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
There is it right there? But right there? Yeah, that's
just gonna be a little give. We're giving you your flowers. Yo.
I ain't drinking that Yo. Good for you man, don't
break that ship.
Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
Yo, laws bro, we are here to give you your flowers.
My brother, let me just tell you something.
Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Afiate you. Brother, you're a legends legend of Japan. You're
a producer's producer, you're an artist artist and but but
we gotta go back what came first?
Speaker 5 (01:31:58):
D J?
Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
You're producing d jam and so that you just wanted
to I know, so what what what DJs are you
looking up to? Then you're saying I want to be
a DJ? All right?
Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
So around my way we have my brother that I
patted myself after even today. You see what I do
on Instagram. This nigga, don't follow me. We're gonna go
somewhere else. You're bad, You're gonna break through. You're calling
some of the listen not But but there's a brother
(01:32:40):
around my way named com Mel. And so when I
got out the group home, they told me in the
group homes like yo, listen, man, you need to do music.
Manuk that crime ship Man do music. Man, You're gonna
be all right. And so I started buying records. I
ain't have equipment yet, but I just started buying records
that I like and ship you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
In my household, we always have records. So buying records
was nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
It's like, all right, cool, go to the ad with
the bus pass, go see mister Wall music Factory. Buy
some records, you know what I mean? Yeah, beat minus Boom. So,
you know, just buying records. Man, buying records.
Speaker 19 (01:33:16):
I gotta say, Man, huh, hearing you like what Main
Source brought to me really defined the way I knew
I could be in hip hop because we was.
Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Rebelling were we was rebelling, We was calling ship, I
was calling ship out. We was calling ship out. And
y'all came in and added on to.
Speaker 19 (01:33:40):
That were curently Game of Baseball ran in me like
that man, I used to run that that friendly talk
about Yeah, I missed that part of me because I
just got to say, and Main absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Just the way we honest Love of the Barbecue might
be the one of the best posse records of I
mean absolutely all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
We was following in them template and you know, everybody,
what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Like Molly in Them came out with the first symphony
Barbecue because when we when we.
Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Did barbecue joint, we were we were saying we're gonna
do a symphony joint.
Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
They whoa. He was saying, We're gonna do a symphony joint. Okay,
I can see that now sounding nothing like listen and
it was that and some times are doing crazy and
now times are doing albums. You you had joints.
Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
You had yo, where's your DJ joint where the DJ
had his song, and then you had your your love
song joint, like I just drew up the Kinge joint.
Cainge on his first album he had the love song
the day Your Mind that that ship is fire like
so a lot of dudes. And then there was a
time where dudes had like where's your house.
Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Your hip house joint.
Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
James was doing that hip house joint like house music.
Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
House shot. That was the hip house joint.
Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
It was like, oh, you got your girl joint because
they had so Jungle Brother they had.
Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
In the Bush, which was their girl joint.
Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
Then they had a girl out house was the that
was the the house joint and then they had the
DJ joint.
Speaker 19 (01:35:10):
Was like you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what you're
doing last night, Younger Brothers exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
I was playing the Jungle Brothers joints last night. Don't
you got the records. You're at the records. But let's
show these artifacts. We're gonna do that. He's gonna be.
Speaker 20 (01:35:31):
We got it.
Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
We got a future young legend in here. Man, I
ain't gonna dude.
Speaker 21 (01:35:36):
Right here because he large professor knows that wherever I'm
always in the place to be.
Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
You know what I'm saying, trying to make it happen.
But you know, wherever we had were in the place. Yeah,
wherever we are is the place to be.
Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
That's right, because like you came out here like Miami,
like the stocks when you know what I mean.
Speaker 22 (01:35:53):
He just stole he just just the ship out of
my ship. Just let me ask you because like halftime literally,
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
Halftime halftime like literally like like yo, bro, that's I
was in jail, in jails and d like.
Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
You said, let's talk, like tell you about halftime. Listen,
that's what I heard. Listen. By the way, I'm gonna
be honest with you that's poppy. That's poppy right now to.
Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
Go back two yes ago, this virtue Illmatic by the way,
illmadic I heard when I was incarcerated, right and this
this is the reason why to me, NAS is the
Donald goings. Because I didn't have I would go in
lock in and I would listen to Illmatic and I
would literally be in Queensbridge.
Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
I was never kind of like in jail, like I
was like, so prior to that, did you ever go
to QB and hang out?
Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Absolutely? But but I actually smelled QB like as I
was listening to it.
Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
Particulate NAS was at the time was when I, I said,
read Donald Gowan's books, and I read a book called Horse.
Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
I like how you pronounced his name because you say
like go in when he was going in.
Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
But it's like which you know you always know you.
But I would listen. I would read these books and
I would be in Detroit. And what I started to
notice was, oh, ship music, that's the same thing, like
(01:37:29):
the same thing as reading, Like when you read, you
be in that place like you read a book about
you know, Malcolm X. I was, I was transporting to
you Detroit read and then it Matic was the first
album that I listened to that I saw, like I
actually saw it. I couldn't. I couldn't see it physically,
he says, trying to tell some broken there but all
(01:37:50):
that ship and you see what he said, he said
that buck that brought that bottle. I would say, what
the fu is wrong?
Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
The wise man has the wise young man has smoken
the elevator.
Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
That that's that smell. Though as soon as you said
that lyric, that smell washed it into my nostrils. Because look,
so what I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
Trying to describe is trying to time was the first
record we heard, right, and then it was like it
was like a whole like in my opinion again I
was I was away. It was like a like like
a heart like he didn't he didn't drop more more albums.
He didn't drop that in that vein in that vein, right,
and then the album drop. Was that something that that
(01:38:42):
y'all planned or that was something that.
Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
It just yo, the streets was bubbling ship, It was
technical difficulties, were working on a low budget, like it
was old types of like that that that that that
first album ship that you could you know that you
could get man.
Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
And because you have one one moment. Let me just
say this because to me, I maybe didn't say this earlier.
Ell Matic is the greatest album of all times.
Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
To me, I resonated that. That's to me, I don't
want to argue we're talking about anything. You're not just
talking about hip hop. I'm talking about hip talking about
general in general, in general, right, like, like we're not
like subjectively for you, it would have to be subjectively, right,
It wasn't for me, and I'm not from Queens, but
(01:39:27):
that's what makes it even more special.
Speaker 9 (01:39:29):
Like me from Miami listened to it, transported me to
Queens and made me believe I understood Queens.
Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
Like, all right, so Michael, like Michael Jackson, Thriller is
not It's not anywhere in me.
Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
No, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think of
something that you might know that. I'm trying to think
of something that you might I like Thriller, but I
don't like right, like, right, it's cool? Did you like
that out? I couldn't relate to.
Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
It because it had human nature on it. It had
It wasn't.
Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Relating to me. It wasn't relating to that poppy just age.
I didn't want to right right, young? What are you
talking about? But he's a little young, but you know
I'm trying. I'm trying to That's what.
Speaker 21 (01:40:13):
Years he's listening to a different he's listening what he
wanted to like making.
Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
What is going to find one? I mean, you know
that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
If you take granddaddy, you bismark and Kuji rap and
you make them have a baby, that's an r E.
Granddad at you biz mark and Cousi wrap And if
you really think.
Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
About that, that's he's asking you. What the fours was that?
Not that prod It was grand that you brand. There
you go, there you go, Holy ship, he's just more smooth.
Two copies brothers, his flower, his flowers. This is my Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
When Granddad you said I knew a girl named Kenya
from West Virginia, Boy, would I like the stick?
Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
Somebody? I said, I don't know what the fuck he
just did, but I want to do that. She just
said that single handed. He made me a round.
Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
Look lost, professor, let me give you your props and
watching y'all perform at Brooklyn Queen's Day in Flushing Meadow Park.
Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
We got two copies of that. Dude, I think I
seen that this is just thats just stupid. Listen, I was,
I seen. I was professor to perform at Brooklyn Queen's
Day with nas and Love of the Barbecue. And I
went there.
Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
Aconnell Is from ninety seventh Streetconetics from ninety ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
Nine coming here. And I didn't know what I was
doing at the time. I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Mother didn't even let me out, and I went to
Brooklyn Queens Day, which was very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
By the way, this was not safe.
Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
It was fun.
Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
It was dangerous for left right left niggas is always
it was just because niggas was crazy gens right niggas.
Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
Squeeze. Just listen, I'm looking at brook Listen listen. Brooklyn
did was it was in Queens. So Brooklyn niggas imagine
that will come. Donald Trump is a left raight nigga.
Johnny Trumps the left track niggas. I'm telling the time
(01:42:26):
all the time, right, he grew up right down the block.
He's like Johnny Trump is from right up the block.
When you say it's not you and when you do
some apartment, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
Why it's not you Left Rack and Donald Trump have beef.
The guy who owns the Left Right.
Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
He was up the block, That's what I'm saying. He
was broke. He Johnny Trump people was up the blot
from left right and they had.
Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
Actually actually is pronounced the frack.
Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
So you know the guy right now, if you know
he lives in Miami, I know him right now. It's
bigger than Jamie Left and he will.
Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
I'm trying to get him to give me. I want
to buy. I want to be the first owner of
a left Rack city.
Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
He should have. Yes, yes, yes, that's it's a good
idea because we had Colin the offer for that dude.
Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
We had college houses. The first time I ever seen
a class drunk. So he class by the way, you know,
he class is a military military.
Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
He classes like this all right, that was up he class.
He said he owned your ship? What I said, what?
And then the guy comes over, he's sitting there waiting
to speak to me. He's like, yo, I'm left Left said,
that's actually his name, Yes, that is his name. I
gotta save that his name.
Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
But what's crazy about it is like like no one
owns forty projects the city owns forty projects.
Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
No one owns Queen's Bridge. You got to come in.
Let the the city, the city Queens where nobody owns basic.
Basically the city owns that. Nobody owns four Green. The
city owns that. Someone. We could actually look at the
person who owns left right and we could change so
that actually city you're talking about morning and buildings.
Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
No, it's actually it's actually ten left rack cities. Okay,
I'm talking about I mean, we're.
Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
The main one in Queens, but this one in Jersey,
this one and yeah, you just sucked me up, right
left fractice franchise. Listen, listen, listen what he just said.
He was saying, Yeah, like I like that joke, and
I'm just talking about to make you look at elevator.
(01:44:49):
They got the elevated. Yeah yeah, but to be serious,
Left fraight City is actually a city though. No, no,
it's a complex. It's so it's not like a new
undercore some of the wildisce. In Jersey City, they have
a left brack city as well. Yes, so by building that,
they call it the name left freck City. Right, man,
(01:45:11):
I'm a flushing nigga, and you know you about that.
Speaker 5 (01:45:17):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
Let me just say, Yo, was you ever caught up
in any of that bound like flushing left rack beach.
Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Too young, too good man, I'm glad man, I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
Well, let me ask you something because flush, you know
you probably asked some of that Jamaica left rag beat.
Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
Yes, that plushing, Flushing, Flushing.
Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
Now, your left rack always had been down the block,
always had beef. Like we was the calm buildings. We
was the brother We was like the guards. We was
like like flushing. Them used to come up like to
fucking like right the forehead like whow man, I just
got away from some bullshit.
Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
We're just up there listening to music. You know what
I mean. We don't left someone who got hanging out, right,
But I love you bounce like no, no, why God? Why? Actually?
Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Because Flushing, Flushing is one of the diverse places I've
ever been to. I always say to people, if you're
from Queens, can't your way you could be for you
could be racist?
Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Right, because right that's and that's my way. I say,
Donald Trump ain't really from Queens. You go to Japan,
I'm like, yo, home, sweet home. When i I'm like,
oh home from Flushing, because Flushing. That's what I'm saying, Flushing.
Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
You have a lot of Russians, you have a lot
of Asians.
Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
So you said it in the song you say, bouncing
out the flushing, check the Russian.
Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Check the weed with the cushion with extra pe. Yeah
I'm flushing.
Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
Yeah, said that in the song. Yeah, but extra p
you get the weed from the Russian. But it described
to us growing up out there. How is that? Because
like I said, it was up in Flushing, Flushing, Yeah,
now I was it. I mean because from I mean
I was. I was born in Harlem, and you know
it was just straight.
Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
Like I'll say, you're born in We don't want to
claim that.
Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
I know I do.
Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
That's the big al building you said that earliest, the
whole big yow in front of his Grandma's.
Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
That's my whole edge, like it's the Harlem ship. But
I ain't never get to experience that like they was
like my mom's was like you're not gonna get this.
Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
We're gonna get a better like you know, So it
was Flushing for me.
Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
But you know, Grandma's house, back and forth going back,
no Thanksgiving ship like that suit up, get fly, you
know type ship, but Flushing Man was cold and Pomana
cold and Palmanac the Bland. Bland was really the hood
like where I was in carll Out like down the
block was flush shallow. Mike g you know, Mike G
(01:47:57):
was from the building diagonal from me. We have full buildings, no,
like yeah, yeah, I call him Mike Jesus Mike g
All that that's that's that's like my first friend in life.
Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
Like Yo, so yo.
Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
I grew up with Hay June, John Soul, my man Raider,
Chris Elasti's big, big, crazy big about Royal Flush Flush
Flush used to come to the rest like you know
what I mean, Like because my my crib. I always
wanted to like share whatever I was doing with the crib,
like with the you know, the community and ship like
Yo come through and I saw on one of the
(01:48:34):
champs and shit, you was like, you know when Mike
and them was talking about the Queen's Lounge, when I
was doing the Queen's Lounge. Shit, that was like that's
what I was doing, like because I was coming up
in the industry and I wanted the hood to kind
of see like yo this, you know, like Q tip Yo,
Yeah right here like that exactly like Biz came through.
Like people still come up to me like, yo, I
met Biz coming to meet you, like you know what
(01:48:57):
I mean. Like so I always wanted that for them
to come because I was I knew like yo, now
I'm making that ship so you know, come see me too,
like type ship. So it was a beautiful thing growing
up in Flushing. Man, Like, it's a beautiful thing. The
diversity is my key. Now when I travel the world
and these people come up to me, I don't feel
(01:49:18):
like no hood nigga. I don't feel like I ain't
good as them or nothing. I'm just like, oh ship
you just like mother fucking Vladin and ship, you know
what I mean. Like for real, I know people like
you know, I know Jewish, I know all that. I
know the whole spectrum. So that's the beautiful thing about Flushing.
My Jesus like Jesus, like Jesus, Jesus Christ, that's my
(01:49:44):
first friend, like.
Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
Jesus Christ. Worried up. So let me ask you. Yeah,
your pre.
Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
Man, you're supposed to have been in this round.
Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
Take come on, pre man man man, all right, we
hear man. You see now you see talent man you
see did you just drop a video? You can sit
behind the.
Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
Well left my nigga, Man, I told I told him
how he was the first. You know how I first
first time I went outside.
Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
You know, I'm in my moms man. I love big
up moms Man, Mike.
Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
Mike moms was actually like she she was like very
big and like Jet magazines and Ebony magazines like as
like the talent like the scout that she was kind
of like kind of big, like how Prodigy's grandmother was
like like with the like having the community and like
knowing what the new talent that was coming up. Yeah,
(01:50:54):
absolutely worrid I found that out man.
Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
Yeah, and one from that man. God, remember Mike moms
Man literally man like it was.
Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
It was crazy when you know when she left, just
man like Mike had left and and yeah, I remember
man for real man, my brother. Absolutely you hold on.
Did you get them facts for me?
Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
Man? You got the facts? Memos asking you a couple
of things. Man, you got them facts for me? Man, Okay,
no doubt.
Speaker 4 (01:51:22):
We're gonna gets just two old frinds talking.
Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Just hang it out. We're gonna call you back, oldhead.
I just I just got to hear just hanging out
organically and let me say because that's great, that's great. Yeah,
we had Mike on here and right and you were
(01:51:49):
talking about basically and all that, and.
Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
It's holds me because we had two people here that
said this very same story with two opposite attendants.
Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
We had Mike Geronimo sit here and say he hated
being compared to NAS. Well, birth days is the same.
Let me finish, let me finish. So he says he
hated being compared to NAS and then and he kind
of like said that that that almost is what made
him not want to like keep going. And then we
(01:52:31):
had IRV gott he here and said he hated that
that Mike Geronimo didn't accept being compared.
Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
IRV and I love because IRV is official. You know
what I'm saying that I need to just tell people.
You know, I was tearing them parks up, nigga, that's
all EARTH need to do because that's the most official
ship you can.
Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
So I want you to answer this question, like, because
because they both told the same story. Mike Geronimo said
him being compared the NAS was not a blessing for him,
and IRV sat here in to the same.
Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
He said him being compared to NAS was a blessing.
Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
I'll explained to you, man, he was never compared to
NAS right to begin with, No, he was not, man,
Nobody was comparing him to NAS.
Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
I think Mike, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
Mike sometimes get really deep into and so he's like, Yo,
the same birthday type ship and ship like that, Queen's lounge.
Queen's lounge. Motherfucking Mike Geronimo was there. Nas was dead,
Trash was dead. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
I could go on and on the people that was dead.
You know what I'm saying. Nas was NAS.
Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
Mike Geronimo was in the cut, coming up and flushing,
and he was his own entity. Nobody was comparing NAS
and like you be honest, I was right now and
right now. If you ring NAS and NASS be like yo, Pee,
please tell me.
Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
Mike me even could call them right now. This is
what I mean. You could You want to clear it up?
Hip hop.
Speaker 19 (01:54:12):
What you said to just he if he had to continue,
there would have been an il differentiation.
Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
You know how many There's so many, as Peter said,
like because they're in the same genre.
Speaker 1 (01:54:24):
Can I go to different regions and I ask about
my niggas, I'm like, yo, you know, Royal flush. Some
places they say yeah. A lot of places they say no,
I don't know yet. You know what I'm saying, I
don't know yet, you know. And I like that they
you know, they still want to know, you know, And
I'm there, and I'm believe me, I'm not there, like
(01:54:45):
both feet in, I'm still getting them to know me.
Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
So I'm not like, yo, I'm like some old eminem man,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Like I'm like shure, they're figuring out me too, like
at the same time, So I don't want.
Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
To try to put like I'm there and they not whatever.
But a lot of.
Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
Places like people ain't know. So that's that's my my
basis on what I'm saying, Like people is not comparing
the two. Because I had a platform that was now
you being super New York niggas.
Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
Yes, you guys are big, like he did you know
how we have.
Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
About the.
Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
Fans That was like like comparing you guys were not
comparing like I'm young, I'm young, was comparing them. You know.
Speaker 21 (01:55:34):
I was around when the Mike Geronimo is on on
blunt and I was just the first time I'm hearing
that comparison to.
Speaker 6 (01:55:42):
Say that.
Speaker 21 (01:55:43):
I will say, even though even though it's the first
time I'm hearing that, you can see it.
Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
I could see it on some market and ship I
can't see it on the styles. Everybody. Everybody was a
blend to everybody. You know what I mean, Like, yo,
you man, see what you're saying. What mean if anything
they was, if anything they was comparing you to not.
Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
Seeing it.
Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
They because always.
Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
This listen, man, you always parted the thread that they
were saying that NAS started, that bron had in his
style exactly that with Joan Mike Geronimo.
Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
I'm gonna tell you, I got to be honest with you.
I would be I would imagine that everybody got compared
to NOS when came broke out. This is or I'm
gonna compare. That's what I tell you. What no die
hard head it's gonna say, oh yeah, that's a comparison.
(01:56:50):
Tell you something. When NAS first came out, a phenomenal
the whole world, you know, people says to random artists
and listen, you remember you gotta remember my memor Marie's
little sharp back then. But not now, right, but because
we know what it was Buckshot Shorty and and no
was was also compared together. No, I don't mean, I
(01:57:13):
don't know, I don't lois. I mean that's a detail.
Speaker 5 (01:57:19):
I never heard that.
Speaker 2 (01:57:23):
Right now, never heard that.
Speaker 1 (01:57:25):
I never heard that.
Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
I never heard that heard that ship just yes, Shorty.
They was before they they compaid the buck Shot Shorty.
You was that most people weren't comparing solo artists of
the group Black Blue and Black Move. It sounds like
you're just talking about who was that nigga at the time.
Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
Everything he's just talking about who was that nigga? Who
was that? I hear my style, Yeah, I don't know
who was that? Literally everything everybody was trying to be
that person.
Speaker 3 (01:58:02):
You gotta remember, I'm I'm away with a whole bunch
of Brooklyn niggas. So the Brooklyn niggas is pushing Buckshot
Shorty on me. So when halftime came out, That's what
I was saying earlier. When halftime came out, it was
like the most I was like, oh sh we finally
got one and respect.
Speaker 2 (01:58:16):
Now it's what's going on.
Speaker 3 (01:58:17):
In my opinion, I'm saying this is how I looked
at it and didn't illmatic drop and w ellmatic drop.
Speaker 2 (01:58:21):
Boy, I walked that yard different. I can't I see
what he say like saying.
Speaker 5 (01:58:27):
That Joan, I'm like, boy, was this is.
Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
The bull? That's when you was reading the books. Don't
read the book read again that hold with the bull
to Bean, that was the name. I'm so glad I
didn't go with you said, is this John that y'all
have the bollship like you said that job. You would
(01:59:27):
have been drinking for that.
Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
It's still to y'all still you have been ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
Don't blame the mean what do you mean? You can
you do that right now?
Speaker 1 (01:59:40):
Listen listen.
Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
You love broke. Yeah we're drinking, baby, las Bro. Let
me ask you because the Rose Joint you know, so
you think yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 23 (02:00:06):
See Sea Dream Sea Pream.
Speaker 2 (02:00:10):
I knew that. I knew that's what she was gonna do.
Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
I do and I want.
Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
I love you, young Bro. I love you, young Bro.
But we're gonna keep this. Let me ask you. You're trying.
It's trying to do that Baisley ship to me that
is I want to drink to you what she got
to say? Love enjoy. Yeah, let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
Let me ask you, last Brome, do you know how
important you are to hip hop?
Speaker 2 (02:00:39):
Do you realize it? Not to music?
Speaker 1 (02:00:41):
Hip hop?
Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
That ship?
Speaker 1 (02:00:47):
Yo, bro Man, there's this Vanessa Bell Armstrong song that
I love call you bring out the best of me.
And that's what my people do. You know what I mean,
They bring out the best of me. So that's my
people bringing that out of me. You know what I'm saying,
Like for real, Like I'm I'm just like I do
(02:01:11):
what I do and they and they helped me. So
you know I had a lot of help along the way,
you know, big up, all the people, all the love,
and you know, we're just gonna push forward.
Speaker 2 (02:01:22):
Man, that's how we're gonna do it. You're part of that.
Speaker 1 (02:01:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:01:24):
When we used to do the tours with O you
know what I mean, y'all used to make the dances
with the bananas, it was wild.
Speaker 1 (02:01:32):
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
Left right niggas is crazy. You already know this is man,
Big up money bags, big people, don't.
Speaker 5 (02:01:49):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:01:50):
Definitely you know we're we're paying the sorrow, you know
what I mean, big up money bags. It hurts. It hurts.
Speaker 1 (02:01:57):
You know what I mean even with even with pream
right here, you know what I mean, Like even with
cream right here, it hurts to see how brothers, you
know what I mean. Like let street ship like just
just fuck everything up, man, and everybody's fly and get
money and doing their thing and just this little dumb
ass street ship fucking everything up and niggas is meeting
they demise, man, like you know what I mean, Like
(02:02:17):
I hate that ship. That's why I wanted to you know,
He's like, Yo, you gotta do it, o g And
I was like, Yo, you gotta be there too, man,
just so that we could, you know what I mean,
Like be examples. Man, are like yo, Man, let's get
this ship right man, everybody fly man, everybody in this
fucking building right now, just talking about Man, the homie.
Speaker 2 (02:02:33):
Got the shade on with the waves ship. That ship
is firing the ship out of the man right now.
Speaker 1 (02:02:39):
That's what I want to see. Man, we all fly
man while we're killing each other. Man, God damn, man,
get that nigga.
Speaker 2 (02:02:45):
Man, take a shot a shot. I'm gonna do this, don't.
I'm going to Japan July, you know, so listen to
(02:03:06):
you all right, man, this is to Japan. Man, this
is good. This is a career. Let's go definitely. How
about my man? Jay got you all a little crazy
about like that.
Speaker 1 (02:03:15):
You know, as soon as Jay said that, everybody went crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:03:18):
I said it years before that boy boy, tell that
Japanese boy bad. Give me your chilling, hard and awesome. Man.
Speaker 1 (02:03:37):
You know you know you're chilling. So you know, we
got the flicks. Man, we had the round.
Speaker 2 (02:03:41):
We had.
Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
We had like it was a couple of It was
a couple of female chilling all ship.
Speaker 2 (02:03:49):
It was nice.
Speaker 1 (02:03:50):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:03:52):
And when I when I when I seen the joint,
I was like, Yo, that's young bro right there. Man,
he doing like how I do it? Man, Like you
learn from the back. Good for life. Man. Worried up man, man,
and we got and we got some fire on deck. Man.
Speaker 1 (02:04:06):
It was just like, Yo, it was so crazy how
it happened. Because Dave was in town and then young bro,
he's like, Yo, Dave Chappelle, of course that's the only
day right now.
Speaker 2 (02:04:17):
Well, Dave, I mean there is a days in peace.
Let me shut up for that. Man. Absolutely, Man, It's true.
I could do that. I could do that.
Speaker 1 (02:04:31):
I could do that.
Speaker 2 (02:04:32):
Look shot, nice little ship. I need a shot that
I'm going to ja, give me talent give nobody wants
to drink. Mama Juana would come up. I don't want
to sound.
Speaker 7 (02:04:48):
You.
Speaker 2 (02:04:48):
Just take that one right there. Yeah, but you I
got talking about you talking about being tangled up online.
Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
You're let's talk about how my young bro we get
toung tabled up on line.
Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
If Twitter fingers was a it would be you. Okay,
I'm not allowed about time.
Speaker 1 (02:05:22):
Spling.
Speaker 2 (02:05:23):
Proud of you, listen, you take proud listen. Let me
tell you about peace. He takes on every racist in
the love world. How he has time goes. He doesn't
show get some point, you hire some give I can't
wakes up and just get googles who's racist. I think
he's doing it in his sleep too. Bro, He's just
(02:05:45):
stay ready. He's ready. And that's what it is.
Speaker 12 (02:05:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:05:49):
You know that's the part of the Dave Chappelle episode
that I wanted to keep in when when Dave Davids
making fun of you, we haven't since then, I've spoke
to me. No, I feel like get closer every fucking
disaster drink Champs episode disaster. Yeah, but it was ill
(02:06:14):
because I called my name out, but he said from me.
Speaker 1 (02:06:18):
But it was like a little bit of like a
little like a little delay in that ship, like something
had happened and ship.
Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
He was like, mother fucking you know. You don't you
don't know? He said, Look, you know he said, he
said from me? You from me? You don't like I
kind of was talking about him on drink.
Speaker 1 (02:06:33):
No no, no, no, no, no he.
Speaker 2 (02:06:37):
Was.
Speaker 24 (02:06:38):
He was, he was, he was, he was.
Speaker 2 (02:06:41):
He got you know who you talking from out Pros?
The big bro.
Speaker 1 (02:06:53):
Who you picked either way last Pros my big bro?
So either who whoever? Like you know that type ship yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:07:00):
The other that money. You was gonna say something which
about the Kanye not going You got a lot to
say but with Kanye.
Speaker 1 (02:07:07):
But I just caughte a copy of that on a
mind sex on vinyl with ship Man banger.
Speaker 2 (02:07:12):
That that's crazy. You see how you just do? My goodness,
you're not pulling it out that, you know. I was God,
I want to have I'm bout to I'm about to
leave use out this time. It was like the hip
hop is a hip Hoppies version?
Speaker 25 (02:07:31):
Know that when my post listening, so it used to
be my wait, yes, Gracie's used to make Gracy we
my man, just counting you to date Gracie.
Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:07:42):
I was just talking about earlier that you said, Gracy
that sisters.
Speaker 5 (02:07:51):
Sister you're talking.
Speaker 2 (02:07:53):
To earlier than that. Earlier than that.
Speaker 1 (02:07:59):
I used to stay in in front of Joe's barber
shop with my pops and his friends listening there. Used
to be my girl by the old Jay's niggas so life, bro,
nigga got the old jas. I feel like I see the.
Speaker 2 (02:08:16):
Baby that's where I go, you know, nig like I used.
Speaker 26 (02:08:19):
To go to big Brother, just like you know, what
is the name professor and professor that science like you said,
I was in Corona early, baby, like your early man,
early I got.
Speaker 1 (02:08:34):
I got like you know, coming out of preschool, like
graduation flicks like out of.
Speaker 2 (02:08:38):
Corona baby like you know, it was my favorite. That's
the crown.
Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
You know what that You know what Corona means, right,
It's the shan It's the shine over the crown.
Speaker 2 (02:08:47):
I'm so crowd. Yeah yeah, shin shine shine crown, the
crown to shine over the I tried about I'm about
beating nuts.
Speaker 27 (02:09:04):
Let me see, Well, remember you were surprised that you
didn't know that when we were talking.
Speaker 2 (02:09:12):
To day episode, Yeah, man, I did, but you jish,
you saw that. You saw the hell I was trying.
You saw I was trying. I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (02:09:25):
I didn't want to do it.
Speaker 2 (02:09:29):
You was like, you gotta do this.
Speaker 3 (02:09:32):
I got so excited because I really loved Juju. I
love love both of them. Cycle lest less excuse me,
I love them both. And I got drunk before the episode.
So that's that started my rule. I never drink any
episode and the right as well.
Speaker 1 (02:09:47):
In the.
Speaker 2 (02:09:49):
And he was in flushing fashion. But the beating, the
beating nuts good.
Speaker 6 (02:09:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:09:54):
Background story with them is, uh, Juju is all like
he's he's on hanging out. He's on song, just hanging out,
like in the end, like when we're talking and we're
like yo, we're going uptown blah blah, and then I'm like, yohoo,
what's up man?
Speaker 2 (02:10:07):
He's like yo, I don't know. Pete man Lynch said
he won't go to the powerhouse man dins. That's huge.
So listen, so you today years old, we're gonna have
beating us back. So you don't know what happened that
that episode we we had we had just finished yes,
j it was a traveling dreams chances were in New York.
(02:10:29):
We just finished episode and then he's like, sure, let's
do it. I go no, no, no, because I already
know you what this show was about to happen. You
would have give them a better better in you I
love and you just keep going back to my loved
(02:10:52):
but love it. I was off the pus. They were
like tragedy. I love it because.
Speaker 1 (02:11:00):
That's what drink champ for some staircase.
Speaker 2 (02:11:04):
He was with the no, no, no, it's a process show.
That's interesting.
Speaker 5 (02:11:11):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (02:11:13):
Spinnis because I had I had a.
Speaker 2 (02:11:18):
Joint for you know, a movie and you movie dubbed the.
Speaker 1 (02:11:22):
Goss you got drunk on that. He went, I had
to send it to our scratch and our scratch, but
you was like.
Speaker 2 (02:11:33):
Scratch took my beat when we when we out scratched
for you.
Speaker 1 (02:11:36):
And when we listen, I'm gonna tell you e f
yo when we finished Bill Pyramids, that's just hard that
he was like, I was in left brack of it
was mad call I had on the video. On the video, yeah,
he was like, yo, tap to beat out on the
porch and ship. I bought the Porsche out for you
tap to beat out. I remember that ship. I was like,
(02:11:58):
what is he doing this ship? But then that's when
I figured out that you would like to you know
what I mean, it's like that, it's true.
Speaker 2 (02:12:04):
Yeah, he's like, you tap the beat out on the
polls ship. Let's give you that look. I feel like
you should have produced the whole album for me. That's
that's that's the future right now. It's easy to do. No,
he did it, no man, but quick just be true
(02:12:27):
to hisself. Like that's big bro.
Speaker 3 (02:12:31):
You know, I guess what and guess what I accepted
every time you said it, And guess what.
Speaker 2 (02:12:36):
I would love to go to power play for a
month made you and just we're gonna do it, and just.
Speaker 1 (02:12:44):
That's so much.
Speaker 2 (02:12:47):
Yes, listen, how good that record was is going to show.
Speaker 5 (02:12:52):
You how.
Speaker 2 (02:12:53):
And you know what's crazy. Let me get Joel. Let
me let me just tell you how good. Will tell
you how good got. When I called you.
Speaker 3 (02:13:00):
Please and I said, yoo, your Lorge pro I need
a beat and you said what kind of beat? And
I described it to you and you gave me exactly
what I wanted. I was like, this, motherfuckers, he's just.
Speaker 2 (02:13:11):
Left right, guy, So you like festivity.
Speaker 1 (02:13:19):
Like that festivity like it ain't hard to tell it
is a hood festive joint.
Speaker 2 (02:13:26):
Right, so you go, okay, what's going on? Right? You
go into that. That's the water.
Speaker 1 (02:13:38):
It was her birthday the other day, right, left eye, right,
big up.
Speaker 2 (02:13:40):
Left out. I love her.
Speaker 1 (02:13:42):
We love what were We love what she brought to
the world. We love what left Out brought to the work.
Speaker 2 (02:13:48):
Let me do something you do that, let me tell
you something we love. Like I said, I'm in jail.
Nice halftime drive, but then he just got I was
a one of one.
Speaker 1 (02:14:02):
It was it was such a good time, and this
is such a great time for you.
Speaker 2 (02:14:05):
Was locked down.
Speaker 3 (02:14:06):
And then all of a sudden, this record drops and
it's called it ain't hard to tell.
Speaker 1 (02:14:11):
The hood bottle popping anthem. It's the hood bottle popping.
It's like it's like, no, we're not we're not. We're
not on in Beverly Hills, on on this road. We
in the hood. But we got bottles, niggas is flys,
got their juice, the yo everybody he was one. Right
(02:14:34):
then at that point, I'm telling you, like, that's what
I wanted to create with that.
Speaker 3 (02:14:38):
Okay, but let me let me ask you, because is
this when y'a get in the studio, is you just
coming off at halftime?
Speaker 2 (02:14:45):
Right? Halftime? But halftime was a one off, like y'all
didn't know was the project? I was a one of one.
That was when Nis was starting the ball demo. He's
starting the ball so this before so there's no he's
a project.
Speaker 3 (02:14:57):
Back to the gorilla, right, So then you got half
time back to the gorilla grin and then now we're here.
It ain't hard to tell. Did you know when you
was in the studio this is going to be his
first single?
Speaker 2 (02:15:07):
Did you make it that way? That's what we were
aiming for for the first okay, see, And so your
mind was did you know what he was gonna rhyme about?
Did you hear?
Speaker 5 (02:15:18):
Well?
Speaker 1 (02:15:18):
I mean it was, I mean his his rhymes were confident,
was exactly. I was like the god you know, the
goudd He's like he got his department.
Speaker 2 (02:15:27):
I got my department. He got his department. Like and
we was there was their ego in it, in it,
ego in it because this is the listen, this is
the eerror of the producer. The producers were the bigger
eagles in the MCS at this time. You can producers
were hard to deal with.
Speaker 1 (02:15:47):
The only the only thing I think that might may
have happened was a little thing that happened with a
few times was because I was gunning, like I needed
to make some money, and you was like, I was gunning,
so I'm working with this one and that one and
that one and that one. And then now some brothers
who think I should have specifically honed in on Nay
(02:16:09):
joint right, they feel away like he over there with
and you know, they know that they know they about
to take off in a major way.
Speaker 2 (02:16:19):
And they're like yo, and so you know, but I'm like, yo, nah,
I got you.
Speaker 1 (02:16:23):
I'm gonna swing back, you know, I gotta go over
here real quick, you know, And they like, so that
could happen.
Speaker 2 (02:16:30):
You know, that happens. You know what I'm saying. That happens.
It happens. You know what I'm saying. So would be like, professor,
you're speaking, Haiku's man. That's how Jesus is speaking. Its right,
Jesus just speak. They say Jesus did ask him as
(02:16:52):
South five producers of all time? No, not yet, is
he is he going to know he's not all right.
So influenced my top for me.
Speaker 1 (02:17:03):
Yeah yeah, oh man, well definitely definitely Molly mal like
Molly maul is the man that gave me my first check,
you know what I mean, his son like he calls
me uncle like you know, little m like weir, I
love him will like I loved him like I could
cry it right now thinking about dude, what Molly did
(02:17:23):
for me.
Speaker 2 (02:17:24):
And you know, it was only like a little twenty
five hundred you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:17:29):
But that was just enough to get because I could
get my drum machine gun right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:17:34):
Oh man, my mom's was like, yo, I went to
my mom's.
Speaker 1 (02:17:38):
I was like and that, you know, I was joking
with my mom's like after after a while, after I
grew up and shit, like I started testing, was like, yeah,
I'm gonna just go ask mall see if she you know,
just it's a while hout. She's like, she's like, how
much is it? You know what I mean, I'm like
twenty five hundred. She's like, all right, I thought she
was gonna nigga fuck you joke. Well hundred dollars to mama.
(02:17:59):
Love happens.
Speaker 2 (02:18:04):
But it came with that.
Speaker 1 (02:18:05):
You know, when you have my money back, When you
have my money back to me, you know what I mean,
my mother from Harlem, you know what I'm saying, When
you have my money back to me, I was like, Mommy,
I did some production. I got intelligent huld. You know
fatal you know, because my mom's a fatal birthday is
the same day. As a matter of fact, we're back
out here, we're doing the show. We came with Salon Raymond.
(02:18:28):
That's how me Like do y me, No, it's ray Me.
It's like jet We got the museum.
Speaker 2 (02:18:37):
Right here, exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:18:38):
Museum.
Speaker 2 (02:18:38):
Yeah, so like we've.
Speaker 19 (02:18:42):
We're in close h close proximity. We were alone, very
close to.
Speaker 1 (02:18:46):
Exactly so June tiph that's yeah, that's that's when we're
doing that, and that's that's that's moms and fatal birthday.
Speaker 2 (02:18:52):
So you know what I mean, Like that's you know,
it's just all love, you know what I mean, It's
all love. Fucking five man, He's just I wish I
wish you would have came through to man.
Speaker 3 (02:19:02):
You ain't exactly say how this eight hard to tell
sessions happened.
Speaker 15 (02:19:06):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (02:19:06):
Then we were talking about the top five producers, like.
Speaker 2 (02:19:11):
Right now, let's get it.
Speaker 1 (02:19:15):
And then now I definitely definitely want to talk about
my man, my mentor, and I'm doing what I've seen
him do, my man forty five King, get it up.
Speaker 2 (02:19:30):
Yeah, forty five King, first time.
Speaker 1 (02:19:33):
Yeah he came. He Like I said, I mentioned earlier
that he, along with Bizmark, he always appealed to that innocence,
that child thing in us because he's the one that
made the beat for it's a hard knock, right, you
know what I mean? Like it's always that like the
little kid didn't you know what I mean, Like it's
(02:19:56):
over like wild out loops and ship like that. It's
just that we wild out, you know what I'm saying,
Like you now we used to do in the rooms
and ship, you know what I'm saying, how the girls
in the room and like I mean, oh, my bad,
I don't want to talk like the niggas married. She
needs to get clear, my bad. It used to go
down like that. Gets some fact. Mother Ship was crazy.
(02:20:22):
Come on, we was rolling with mister put it in
your mouth.
Speaker 26 (02:20:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:20:25):
Ship was wild. Ship was wild with us.
Speaker 1 (02:20:28):
You know what I mean. You're looking at me all right,
Oh you got all right, I got too right now,
you know that's not mentioned. No, no, no, before l
I won't put my man Davy d m X oh
Dave damn Max so David, So David put me inside
the cat to lack the show for Jove Offender never
came Davy d Dave, Yeah, Dave coming from arms Crush.
(02:20:54):
Dave called orange Crush. So like my man shot Jean
Lord would say that ship salute soldier.
Speaker 28 (02:21:08):
The game.
Speaker 2 (02:21:08):
That's three. So you're giving dad, of course, Oh my god,
that's hollished. I need four New York, four and five.
He stay on Super New York. So you want me
to spend on it at all time, all the time
and include like everybody.
Speaker 1 (02:21:27):
Oh no, all right, so then no, I'll definitely put
l after that because like all that Houdini stuff and
all that ship yeah Larry Smith.
Speaker 9 (02:21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:21:34):
And then and then it's it's a beautiful thing with
this thing because I know a lot of these guys
sons now and ship like that, Like I know a
lot of their lineage, like you know, like young Prem
and ship like yo. It's because Preme Prem actually reached
out to me during the MySpace days. I don't know,
you know, they had that account up for him and ship,
and he was like, yo, man, it's like and I'm like,
damn man, I wish this, you know this, not this,
(02:21:55):
this story would have turned out better because every when
you look at the ship in the borough and the
Q Borough, everybody was flying like you look at you
look at this stream, look at all these niggas and
just put them in there, like, just remove the beef,
remove the fucking beef and just put them niggas in
the picture together. And it's a funk all.
Speaker 2 (02:22:14):
Fly niggas that's black. Just that's the flyes nigga on earth.
Speaker 1 (02:22:21):
Just take the beef out of the ship and just
put them niggas together, a bunch of fly niggas from queens.
Speaker 2 (02:22:27):
And they always say that.
Speaker 1 (02:22:28):
People come to me, they say, yo, they told me,
don't fuck with y'all queens niggas because y'all niggas don't
even get along with y'allselves.
Speaker 2 (02:22:35):
Hate that.
Speaker 1 (02:22:36):
And then we manifested that ship through the music, all
types of ship. I was like, damn man, now I
gotta I gotta really embrace my hallm ship more.
Speaker 2 (02:22:51):
Sitting there so BK nigga nigga a hat BK King's man. Nah,
that definitely was okay, So that's three. We got three.
What's the four or five? All right, four and five.
Speaker 1 (02:23:08):
I'm a definitely definitely definitely man because right now, man,
they trying to come down on my man. But that's
my nigga for life, man, my nigga, Pete Rock word,
my nigga peep.
Speaker 2 (02:23:19):
Why don't try to come down.
Speaker 1 (02:23:20):
On types of Yeah, yeah, you see he said why
and then he gave me the reason why.
Speaker 2 (02:23:29):
No yeah nah nah.
Speaker 1 (02:23:30):
You know Ship get a little kookie at times and
Ship Man, but that nigga down that nigga's work man,
my brother's work man.
Speaker 2 (02:23:36):
Could never go deny man like that brother. Man.
Speaker 1 (02:23:38):
He put down super heat for too many people. Man,
and Pete Rock is definitely in my list of top
dogs on that on the beat, machines and Ship like
that word.
Speaker 2 (02:23:48):
I want to say something for everything and your vitamins
joint I need.
Speaker 1 (02:23:52):
I want to do a series and Ship I want
Maybe you can help me with this because you got sponsored.
Speaker 2 (02:23:56):
I know you got the big dogs out. They need
to do some man.
Speaker 1 (02:24:00):
Nor Man, I'm gonna put this out to you man,
we need to do a joint call her shows where
niggas do all they b side all them joints, and
we curate the list of the joints they do. So
when we do not joint, he gonna do on the rail,
he's gonna do.
Speaker 2 (02:24:13):
You gonna pick the list for him. We're gonna pick
it out. I respect that.
Speaker 1 (02:24:17):
And you know, brothers, brothers gonna have to go and recap.
They're gonna have to figure their ship back out because
they don't know them lyrics again, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:24:23):
And so they gonna take a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:24:24):
Yeah, it's a performance, but it's called her show, and
it's all the class like you're gonna do vitamins, you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (02:24:31):
Do ye like we gotta let me say something. Let
me say something because I don't think Pete like.
Speaker 1 (02:24:42):
And this list is always this this, This list always varies,
This list always varies. But today I will put him
there and it always fluctuates, like he may be my
number one at times whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:24:56):
And actually he had because our birthdays just passed. But
DJ here.
Speaker 1 (02:25:01):
DJ for he did the beat for Firing Squad, for
m O p s in general, he did he did
gun slinging like gun slinger ship like nas Is like,
you know what song? I love that you did, Nigga,
I love my life. I always I hear that ship
all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:25:20):
I got the he's not gonna take in the crazy.
You don't have the niggas to death. Who are the
other for? He said, But let me tell you, I
see good about I love my life. But I don't
know if you know or not.
Speaker 1 (02:25:40):
And it was just Alison William's birthday the other day.
I love my William's birthday. Just the other day. She
was on deaf Jam. You used your death jam record, brother.
Speaker 2 (02:25:50):
But Nas is the original. The chorus was nas on.
It was nas brodn you you dose his mind? The
hook on the hook, the hook I couldn't afford, I mean,
(02:26:12):
and if you look my hair, oh, hold on the story.
Speaker 3 (02:26:19):
If you look at listen to the story very close.
Nas is also in the studio. He's the he's the
guy in the background. But niggas like that's him in
the background because Nas was just around me and I
picked body in the trunk over I love my life.
But then I switched I love my life and I
put Carl Thomas on there so so yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:26:41):
So that hook was wrote by not let me tell
you exactly shut off Carl Thomas to he killed that
like to Sleep. I want to say I was a
heismapper in the world at the time. I want to
(02:27:02):
say that, But no, I was just big brother. He
was just my big brother, and he and he and
rocked the bol Jackson's the Origin Blue Sons in the Snow.
But you know what you did right there. Let me
let me let me cut your ways for a second. Yo, Yo,
Let's pray some creed, you know what. Let's pray that
ship is great, real yo. You know what you did.
Speaker 1 (02:27:32):
There was a power move when I heard it. I
don't know if Trash suggested it, I don't know what.
But you it was like you connected like because left
Rack didn't have any musical identity at the time.
Speaker 2 (02:27:45):
Ali Soul Sisters. Should I have doubles of theirs?
Speaker 1 (02:27:50):
Also, I'm talking like dove Burns, right, big God Burns.
Speaker 2 (02:27:53):
I have doubles of theirs also? All right? So yo,
bro man, that ship is crazy. Man.
Speaker 1 (02:27:59):
You connected with your make up with that song. That
was like Grand Master vic Blind type ship.
Speaker 2 (02:28:06):
It was like it was like, oh the Sneaker, what
do you know about your.
Speaker 1 (02:28:16):
From Frods, from my.
Speaker 2 (02:28:19):
Fro The way that happened, right, he just creative. Let
me tell you how it happened. Let me say, I'm
gonna be honest with.
Speaker 22 (02:28:27):
You because he tag me to me, I thought involved
in that has nothing to do with you know, he
wasn't at all.
Speaker 2 (02:28:33):
Me and him fell out. He made this record. I
made a dis record, So he has nothing to do
with the n R album. What it was was me
and he was hanging in Jamaica though you was in
Jamaica off one of seven the got BREWP. I crack
God damn A look at that.
Speaker 5 (02:28:50):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (02:28:54):
Bay centered? Now you feel me? What has A sent
to it? And bring you back? But he described you
This record was amazing. I walked in easy LP. Was
there shut out easy LP in a long time. I
want you to know the love is still money, power respect.
(02:29:16):
He did that as well, I believe, but let me
he did sometimes bloody money, sometimes fucking amazing. So so
check it.
Speaker 3 (02:29:22):
So I'm just in the studio, yes, and I fully
write the whole ship. As soon as I hit a
beat and na I was walking. He literally says five
and walked straight to the to the to the booth
because because remember he had he had he had a
enjoy where he was singing on A Z's joint and
(02:29:43):
I was like, Yo, I want you singing.
Speaker 2 (02:29:46):
Give me what you can. Yeah. So I was like, Yo,
can I get n I singing on one of my joints.
Speaker 1 (02:29:54):
We're talking heavy queens right now, We're talking heavy queens.
Speaker 2 (02:29:58):
Bro, this is weird.
Speaker 1 (02:30:00):
I'm saying, we need to bring this ship back and
just highlight some of those I'm going we got super heat.
Speaker 2 (02:30:08):
You know how much heat we got.
Speaker 1 (02:30:09):
Like I'm in there examining now, like all right, hold up, yo,
that ship we just mentioned that easy and I.
Speaker 3 (02:30:18):
Keep going, but I'm finished. I'm gonna give it right
back to you. So it was literally I was walked
in the studio and gave me a five and then
dis interested, and then.
Speaker 2 (02:30:30):
He gave me a five, and then he literally didn't
say nothing to me until he finished the hook. He
just went straight in the studio. That's like, that's that's
my sleep, locked in the sleep, Rember. Did you leave
some of his vocals in the background or.
Speaker 3 (02:30:45):
No, I couldn't. I couldn't afford it, because that was clear.
But Sony you was on Sony at that time. Sony
literally listened to it and was like, because we did,
because I'm seeing.
Speaker 2 (02:31:00):
Then you guys you got you heard, Yeah, I did hear.
Hear you heard the version with no still yeah, but
we never used that call is fining killed it? And
you know what I always love. I love We're shot en.
We're shot at the end, at the end of that ship.
Speaker 1 (02:31:17):
You always love catching that ship where you just keep
saying we're never that it is crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:31:27):
Yeahs just to come to my weed sessions. But he
should sell us. We really Yeah, he used to live.
He used to live with Benny Boom and go where
you were and I keep green Hockey was when they
(02:31:50):
was in Washington. That's right. He was the first way
he selling and selling us that grat he was. He
used to come through with it and he didn't know.
Speaker 21 (02:32:00):
He was around the world out and I was like
I was smoking with him. He was like, I was,
He's a giant in the world with lol. Carl Thomas Luke, Yeah,
he was been around the world, not that one, but
with with with loans called he was doing Daddy.
Speaker 2 (02:32:18):
He did the Man and Run in the world ship
and we didn't I didn't even know that that was
you know that he was, Yeah, and I was, he said,
he said, I'm tired. I said, what You're tired from me?
I was in the studio. I said, you in the studio.
He said, yeah, I'm a bad boy serving you. It's
so crazy.
Speaker 12 (02:32:37):
We're finding this out at the same time some time
really hearing that, you know, this time.
Speaker 2 (02:32:44):
It happened to me because she was in the swim suit.
He was at Rootlan.
Speaker 19 (02:32:50):
He's serving, he's serving botha and we don't even know.
Carl thom is singing. That's crazy. But this is Brooklyn
because you guys, I know you guys are to Brooklyn
in Manhattan. We was calling to he was living in
Brooklyn at that time. I was living in Brooklyn. Yeah,
I mean about room. He used to coaching, cutting room
and justlad. We used to Carl Thomas at cutting rooms,
(02:33:12):
selling me weed from Carl Thomas man.
Speaker 2 (02:33:15):
Yeah, drug dealer, whole yeah, yeah, record we call you
called it's an amazing artist.
Speaker 19 (02:33:27):
It turned out to be like something that I never like,
you said, like, I never knew that he would, you know.
And we ended up living in Houston, and he lived
in Houston. I don't know where Carl Thomas is right now,
but we became close around Yeah, you know what I mean, legends,
I love, I love not yet over no I love.
(02:33:50):
I've been saying that a lot lately. I've been saying
more not yet than you.
Speaker 3 (02:33:55):
Yeah, because you know why large you know, I want
you to know. Like I know, at times he was
talking and he was thinking, like the industry probably blocked
us from connecting. But I just wanted to tell you,
like face to face man, the man, that's not true
at all, Like you know, maybe maybe it's just the
times just wasn't right. But I don't want to ever
have like a Illuminati room or like or or because
(02:34:19):
you know, you know, sometimes people think that. Sometimes people
think that you the conspiracy is the conspiracy. I think
you kind of said that. I think you kind of
saying trash is keeping me away from you. And I
gotta tell you that's not that's that's false. I gotta
tell you I've been wanting to connect with you. I
just didn't know how to do it. Sometimes finished sometimes
ain't that great. Sometimes you don't know how to connect
(02:34:40):
with your OG's like and I always edit this every
time I say this man's name, but this time I'm
not going to edit it. Mellie Mel was probably the
toughest person to me I've ever met in hip hop
r and warranted so right later on after I became
forty years old, I was like, I get it because
(02:35:00):
now when I look at these dudes that come up
to me and say, yo, Lori you know or whatever, whatever,
and then they here for six months and they leave
that five that I gave you, wasn't I wanted to
take my five.
Speaker 2 (02:35:14):
I want to take my five back. So when Melle
Mel was so strong and so hard on me, I
wanted you to make your dude. Melly Mal used to
be like this. When I used to see Melly Mill,
he used to be like and he was one of
the illness. He was the illness.
Speaker 3 (02:35:27):
I had to extensively like, move my five out and
then he'll be like And then.
Speaker 2 (02:35:32):
It wasn't until I started drink Champs, And it wasn't
until I started drink.
Speaker 3 (02:35:39):
Champs until I had Melly Mail had a show at
Mass Appeal with nine. It was the first time he
gave me a real five that I respected. Melly Mall
came up to me and was like, I love the show.
Speaker 2 (02:35:52):
You know strong, we need Melli Mellon drink chances was
a motherfucker. So you had on your mother. But I'm
gonna tell you something, Smack, I'm gonna tell you something.
I respected that she goes the best.
Speaker 3 (02:36:12):
That was probably the best fib I ever received in
my life. And it was worth me because he had
to look at me, He had to look in my
soul and to say, are you worth hip.
Speaker 2 (02:36:23):
Hop and gain you? Are you evalidated that hold comes
to time?
Speaker 3 (02:36:30):
Hold, let me finish, finish, because it was at that
very moment that I was like, you know what I gained.
I finally gave the respect of a pioneer. Indeed, like
I didn't know cool her. Yes, of course I do
know Grandma flash and.
Speaker 2 (02:36:48):
Order them. But it was Melie Mail who was was
who was hard on me. He was Mail when Mellie
mel finally accepted me. And by the way he might say, Nigga,
I look, you might say that right now, I'm not,
But that's the moment, is what the masket appeal was.
Speaker 3 (02:37:06):
He that team gave me that five that I wanted.
And it's crazy because because I recently.
Speaker 2 (02:37:14):
Gave Soldier Boy that five, and you were like, at
one point, yes, at one point, at one point yes,
But recently I gave soldier.
Speaker 1 (02:37:27):
Right, and I was like a lot of good work, right,
a lot of good work.
Speaker 2 (02:37:31):
Soldier boy. He deserves what his lane is, he deserves.
Speaker 3 (02:37:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you did want to give Soldier boy
that five. But I didn't have a so I didn't
realize how I became.
Speaker 2 (02:37:45):
We don't have to That's the thing. We don't have
to respect him. I do you feel like you have
to have big love the other one, the other one. Uh,
you gotta dunk, you gotta dunk, you gotta dunk, you
gotta dunk, dune for soldiers, you know. But all that
is just saying respect. You don't have to respect someone's work.
Speaker 1 (02:38:12):
That's what I want to do as a large professor
of hip hop. Like I may even caught some lag,
you know what I mean, or some ship you know
what I mean? Where it's like I like, I like
the other Dan and ship, Like I always loved my
bro And I was just hanging with him down there
in Texas with term and know what I'm saying, Dope,
I'm in the shop and ship.
Speaker 2 (02:38:33):
You know, I navigate a love you don't like I
never gave him listen that love right now, but.
Speaker 1 (02:38:43):
Because you're gonna do something exactly because I'm you know,
that's my bro right there.
Speaker 2 (02:38:50):
Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:38:50):
So Paul Wall when I met him and ship, you
know what I mean, Like, and that's why another brother.
I was like, yo, you know world flush you know
these ones, and he was telling me whether or not
he knew him and things like that. Show Like I
was in the shop and I'm like, yo, I see
sitting sideways and Ship. I'm like hell yeah, hell yeah,
I gotta grab that and ship, you know me? So yeah,
I was like, yeah, I gotta cop that ship, you
(02:39:12):
know what I mean? Like so and that, and that's
the thing. I want to do that for even them generations,
Like but just throw that ship, Like why Poppy ain't
on vinyl?
Speaker 2 (02:39:20):
Bro, that Poppy album needs to be on vinyl. It's
not on vinyl. I'm about to buy that ship exactly.
Get that vinyl money, you know, money, money, tell me, Yeah,
I want to hear. Let me ask this question if
you want to. Yeah, I want to hear because let me.
Speaker 5 (02:39:43):
Go.
Speaker 2 (02:39:45):
Let me ask you because it ain't nothing, no, no, no,
I gotta ask you because.
Speaker 3 (02:39:48):
You are like, you know, every every Memorial Day, what
is it ross that we bring up the black Marcus
Garvey flag out.
Speaker 2 (02:39:57):
June every June team coming, we win a yeah, and
we put the Marcus Garby with the Africa flaner and
we go white next to the whitest white people. We love,
we love it.
Speaker 1 (02:40:08):
We love it.
Speaker 2 (02:40:09):
And by the way, we like President love it. They
love it too, do they do they party with you?
They'll be like, where's my white friends on me? From
that boat? Honestly they should be showing team we take,
(02:40:31):
we take, we built. Come on, bro, the Marcus gary
the very black and green flag shopping white people. I
love that. And if we put the flag right there and.
Speaker 3 (02:40:45):
This just float and then all the white people always says,
they say, who are flag? And then my friend Diego,
he's always on the boat with us, and he says,
he's a flag pitch.
Speaker 2 (02:40:55):
And that's why the white allies want to do. They
put their body life. So what I'm trying to say
is you don't know this, but I think of you
and your brother dad President. I think stay tell me
that one every time.
Speaker 3 (02:41:15):
So you are known as an afrocentric pro black group.
Speaker 2 (02:41:20):
So when you say you don't you never gave poor
Wall love? Is that because of his skin color? And again,
I want to go here, right here. I don't want
to give him a flu He's not.
Speaker 19 (02:41:30):
That's where he was going because, for real, part of
my building makeup as I was becoming.
Speaker 2 (02:41:38):
Aware of what life is.
Speaker 19 (02:41:41):
Main Source dropped their album which made which was part
of my makeup as a fifteen year old, sixteen year
old hip hop nigga seventeen eighteen.
Speaker 2 (02:41:53):
Still, I want to say, what year was it? I
was knowledge, I was in Tallahassee. Okay, okay, I was
I have gone.
Speaker 19 (02:42:05):
I was at Florida A and M University to show
over there in Tallahassee. So you dropping, and I'm loving.
Speaker 2 (02:42:12):
We's a Tempa Bay two. We all like, oh god,
so we's out here, so boom. I just got to
say to this.
Speaker 19 (02:42:22):
What I gained and developed from hip hop at that
point made me so aware of my surroundings and who
we are that that that made me have a voice.
Did you thank you made me have a voice? I'm
telling you, friendly game of baseball hit me so hell
(02:42:44):
its crooked. The whole system is crooked based on our analysis.
I'm saying, how I how.
Speaker 1 (02:42:50):
We've seen We've seen it exactly, and my man came
throing some poetics.
Speaker 2 (02:42:57):
No way to do it.
Speaker 19 (02:42:58):
So we in here and I'm here fucking with us
in hip hop and I can't lie. And not only that,
we moved from Tallahassee to New York.
Speaker 2 (02:43:10):
We are dead.
Speaker 19 (02:43:11):
President met Steve with Brooklyn, Lord Jamar, all of you
was right by Spotney, right, that's that's later. Earlier we
were downside five five sixty State Streets days. I'm talking
about five sixty State Street, Lord Jamar, downtown. This is
iced to see j going in the Vila, same building
(02:43:34):
as Jay.
Speaker 2 (02:43:34):
The fuck is? Where the fuck did I the same building?
You didn't grow up in that building?
Speaker 1 (02:43:40):
No, No, we was.
Speaker 19 (02:43:43):
We was was couch surfing on Lord Jamar's couch wow
at five sixty State Street, and and the rock was
being built in that building nicely saw some money in them.
Everybody was coming through and all of them was in
that building.
Speaker 1 (02:43:57):
And we had.
Speaker 19 (02:43:58):
Developed what we were gonna talk about and be about.
So we were gonna protect all the ship that you
gave us. We that's what we were doing. Were like
let's make an album that definitely says, let's define where
our brother said this, and we want to party in
bullshit too, but but we're gonna keep it here stand,
(02:44:24):
So let me fast forward.
Speaker 2 (02:44:26):
Yeah, because you.
Speaker 19 (02:44:28):
Just want to get fast forward because I didn't lose sight,
because that's who I am. For those and so and
to give him his flowers in this moment, absolutely well,
yes I need one of those.
Speaker 2 (02:44:38):
I don't know what he's asked for you or for me.
Speaker 1 (02:44:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:44:43):
You know that's the smoke, and that boy smokes, he smokes.
I just got to say that. I got to say I.
Speaker 19 (02:44:52):
Met I met b On, I met be On, Lord
Jamar Scouts in Brooklyn in that same five sixty State street.
Speaker 2 (02:45:01):
I bet bun Bee. He took me to meet Pempcy.
Speaker 19 (02:45:05):
We met Pempcy here actually in Miami, Lord Jamal bun
b Pempcy that press.
Speaker 2 (02:45:13):
I love Houston, Texas. I love what Houston represents to.
Speaker 19 (02:45:16):
The world because based off of them country ass niggas
who said what they said and they ain't fucking around
with it.
Speaker 2 (02:45:24):
They was there. They were clear about what it was. Boy,
So I can't lie. So let me fast forward. So
when I see Paul Wall. I'm very uh yeah, torn
is it?
Speaker 19 (02:45:38):
Look you gotta show me, You gotta show me, always
been to show me, and we I've been around. Did
show you white boys, and he did show you black
people's music.
Speaker 2 (02:45:48):
He did show you. But I did not know that
he knew this world. Man, I did not know that
he knew. So then I moved to Houston.
Speaker 19 (02:45:56):
I can't lie just because of like because of facing
bun basically because I moved to Houston after New York,
after Brooklyn, and and and I really wasn't clear on
who Paul Wall was, and so for we see each other,
I just did not was not being clear. So just
to say this before this conversation, and because you also
(02:46:17):
gave him his flowers and validated him and I and
I want to do that in this moment because I
never because I never did. But when you asked me
someone say it, you know, he's definitely to me. Had
to be clear that he was in this, not as
like an exploiter of it. Never I couldn't see it.
(02:46:38):
And but I didn't know what you don't saying.
Speaker 2 (02:46:41):
I'm not saying you, I mean I don't think that
I don't.
Speaker 12 (02:46:46):
Know his story I know his I think just the
screw angle, like from a millionaire story, like like he
comes from the world story.
Speaker 2 (02:46:58):
So this is not today for me, the past past,
Like you not know the fact that he's drying, right,
he wasn't.
Speaker 21 (02:47:11):
He's saying that he had never given him his love
because in the past.
Speaker 2 (02:47:16):
Yeah, and I want to do it now. You know,
I'm talking wanted the boy. I'm gonna be honest with you.
I mean, I know you give him love. But when
he came, he cat and he got a fresh cut. Yo. Know,
(02:47:37):
he got a low season, right tell, and he gotta
That's what we walk with him. That's what we rocked
when we was like, yo, we got a look, he's
a student of the game. This is what's to me.
It's more important than anything else. If you were suiting
of the game. Yeah, and Paul Law is a student
of the game.
Speaker 21 (02:47:56):
When he was talking about Ellmatic, something something that m
said was interesting to me. He's said, he said, it's
very subjective that you would make that album the best
album because.
Speaker 2 (02:48:05):
I think queens. That's what he said.
Speaker 21 (02:48:07):
That's what and I think, but that's what what what
he was saying from his perspective and how the music
he making. That's why his perspective is subjective. I think
that's because I.
Speaker 19 (02:48:19):
Was making exact I was so I was so fucked
up with this system that I and then distrustful.
Speaker 2 (02:48:25):
And that's honesty. And I mean, and I'm not the
only one fiels his way. I just want to say,
remember you.
Speaker 3 (02:48:37):
Guys, the only person that you guys have a feelings
about Steve Ripkin.
Speaker 19 (02:48:40):
We did and and still openly my partners the stick
and Steve still talking.
Speaker 2 (02:48:45):
But that's that's also about the thanks.
Speaker 19 (02:48:47):
That we have about like the the exploitation that and
and Steve can never escape the fact that his music
is completely exploitive.
Speaker 2 (02:48:55):
Of us and till this day, to this day. But
about it, this music has been exploited of black people
to this day, said And what was he saying about snoop.
Speaker 19 (02:49:10):
Reference the streaming with the streaming references steaming? Yes, yes,
saw that toward points towards steaming. That's what snoopy streaming, streaming,
streaming when it is seeming exact same mechanism that's never
been right, because it's like it's never been right, that's how.
Speaker 21 (02:49:31):
But also with with somebody like poor war like as
you start to mention, when you start to defend his
place in the culture, you start talking about cultural things
that he's done.
Speaker 2 (02:49:39):
Exactly.
Speaker 21 (02:49:40):
There exists racist white rappers one hundred percent, but they
would never be on a level of a poor war
never slim.
Speaker 2 (02:49:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 19 (02:49:48):
So who used to live near me in Houston? Who
helped me to understand this shit even more? Because like
this was crue for him? You know what I'm saying,
This family, I didn't. It was was not my family.
People became my family.
Speaker 2 (02:50:01):
That's broke.
Speaker 1 (02:50:01):
And listen, man, I was down there in Houston with them,
with Bun, I got a banger coming out with Man. Yeah,
it's fucking he bro just like how Bill Pyrimi.
Speaker 2 (02:50:13):
Is with Heat. It's along them lines. Let's do Bun
Doug d already know with Bun and Paul wool And
turned coming up right now. I mean about smoking smoking beef.
Speaker 1 (02:50:29):
This is thing so smoking beast is this thing that
we do out in New York.
Speaker 2 (02:50:34):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:50:35):
My man Lord is you know what I mean, He's
he's the one that spearheading this, you know, you know
he been on the circuit for many years, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:50:43):
And wearing many hats.
Speaker 1 (02:50:45):
This man has worked with Russell Simmons and Rush and
all types of shaking the.
Speaker 2 (02:50:49):
Wall penalty, all types of things. So yeah, he got exactly.
So you know, I was like, Yo Box, Uncle World
Video Music Box, Uncle Ralph. The Smoking Beasts is an album. No,
actually it's a movement.
Speaker 29 (02:51:05):
So what we're doing, Yeah, so what we do love
that we palked the parks In back to the Lower
east Side. Need is needed, right And I say parks
In is where it's a platform and a place where
there's nobody specials, no vr P, most Deathinite might pop up,
buck while might pop up, pop up. Well, we had
on the niggas was doing Lights Lights whole album and
(02:51:28):
they come and gather smoke.
Speaker 2 (02:51:30):
We just play beats, play beats, beat DJ right and
I'll be playing. I'll be playing all these joints.
Speaker 1 (02:51:38):
I'll be I play I Love my Life in there
many times. And that's that's Queens Lounge and Anthon and
then that's.
Speaker 2 (02:51:44):
An ant already doing this. Just are we doing in Miami?
Can we do it?
Speaker 5 (02:51:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:51:52):
We drink, can't hoast it? This release party? This yeah,
come on, you know I'm with it one hundred percent
and to.
Speaker 1 (02:52:03):
A movie so much love in there, man, and Yo're
always like contrary to how hip hop used to be, Yo,
it starts and finishes with all love respects. So all
that old school ship and fighting and all that ship
that ship, don't.
Speaker 2 (02:52:20):
We love?
Speaker 21 (02:52:21):
Y'all should tell them, y'all should tell them about the spot,
because legacy is Cannabis in New York City is a
different thing.
Speaker 2 (02:52:28):
Because cannabis and is legal in New York.
Speaker 29 (02:52:31):
Now we've been smoking, you know, thats the cases and
doing all that, but it's to a point where.
Speaker 1 (02:52:36):
The mayor you want to right, Adams, Man, come on, man,
let's get that churism going.
Speaker 2 (02:52:49):
Before we get before we get cards again. And look,
so yes, cannabis is legal to a degree.
Speaker 19 (02:52:54):
You know what I mean, it ain't because I'm telling
you that what we're talking the space that we're talking
about that we're holding smoking beats in right now only
for now, there's a space that we've created. We called
this out. This is called it's called legacy n y C.
And it's because of the legacy that we bring. So
we on ninety eight Orchard Streets right as me and
(02:53:15):
my partner on me, and it's really like when you
walk in.
Speaker 2 (02:53:20):
My sister Lisa gonna tell you this is dad practice.
She's gonna tell you as soon as you walk in
the door. But truly to tell you his exhibit did
that's the goal? Have you been seeing it?
Speaker 1 (02:53:38):
Ramon?
Speaker 2 (02:53:44):
I'm all right now make sure.
Speaker 1 (02:53:47):
Saying yeah, we're about to do my daughters on at
showing there.
Speaker 2 (02:53:51):
Man.
Speaker 19 (02:53:51):
So I just want to say we established that crazy
in Lower East Side and Brooklyn for a long time
and Williams right across from Supreme. We really wanted to
build a place that we could have like a place
to build like we call it a cultural destination.
Speaker 21 (02:54:08):
I'll be honest when I come to New York, I
don't come to New York without stopping through.
Speaker 2 (02:54:11):
You got you got someone.
Speaker 1 (02:54:16):
Open all.
Speaker 2 (02:54:21):
M let's do it. I don't want to take you
even if we're not, if we just individually, we got
to pass. We live down the locks smart. Our latest
exhibit apart from salam Remi is now when you said
like your New York like I was you you look
(02:54:42):
it up our edit right now, I've got to be angry.
Speaker 9 (02:54:50):
So hold on.
Speaker 2 (02:54:51):
Let we're doing smoking beats in that environment. We did
smoking beats because we like. It always began and that
in the in this smoky ass room with the beat machine,
first with the producer and then with this yeah, and
us being like, and that's how it happens. The cook
up is real, the producers. I never heard this.
Speaker 7 (02:55:14):
The cook up is real, so so so so so.
Nail's coming here with this. Fucking boy got away with waves.
He got a wait in the front of ninety eight
Orchard Street right there, and.
Speaker 19 (02:55:27):
He's a rower in the lower He's a rapper to
you right now, he'd be he like, we should cook
something in here with the producers.
Speaker 2 (02:55:35):
As a producer. We did that as a student of Large,
as a student of lage On. So four years I've
been an understudy of Large. They might know that God
tell him what's happening connected. And one day he left
the equipment. It's like Paul, she did for me, Man
and my left machine. That's old mass, brother's old mass.
Speaker 29 (02:55:59):
And all that sat and I looked at the equipment
and and I was like, yo, I'll be a fucking
idiot if I don't take a ship. He had the
records that he did allmatic with all these other things,
that original example sitting right in front of my face
in my crib. So this nigga bounced come back while
and I started cooking up because I learned shout out
(02:56:20):
to te y'all love and magnetic y'all your mad bro
happy back when I was young, but I was taking
hold off man.
Speaker 2 (02:56:27):
You know about your magnetic Come on, that's people people.
I feel like we're back in there, honestly.
Speaker 1 (02:56:45):
Cannabis doing target right now. NIS hit me up like, yo,
p they playing front doing target right now?
Speaker 2 (02:56:52):
Crazy, We're backing up. Surprised so lost story law.
Speaker 29 (02:56:57):
He come back to the crib. He how was he
coming to see me whole? You know what I'm saying, man,
shout out the job man, Yeah, from corner from job,
this nigga coming to kriit one day, I'm playing to beat,
I thought.
Speaker 2 (02:57:09):
He he's like, ye, what the fun is that? Like yo,
He's like no, that's yeah, he's in.
Speaker 29 (02:57:16):
So I started doing it again and doing again, and
he left for n P one thousand with me, and
I started banging out for two to three years straight,
practicing playing.
Speaker 2 (02:57:24):
Over and now what and now what? People want that
nobody the one right? But now number you won't roll
some credit. I won't roll the credits.
Speaker 29 (02:57:32):
I did the intro to Emon Doug's debut albums to
his game after or since then, I did the.
Speaker 2 (02:57:39):
Intro what about my man, my man, the Flashy Guy.
Speaker 29 (02:57:42):
I did five mikes joint shout out to five Mikes.
I did his starts at an independent album.
Speaker 2 (02:57:47):
You know what I mean? What about the bros?
Speaker 29 (02:57:52):
Back got announced and I'm blessed to say, because damn,
this is.
Speaker 2 (02:57:56):
The line, this is the line told you I'm gonna
do it like my man t O Cross. I mean,
we got job roll on your job, at your job, man,
your job.
Speaker 12 (02:58:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (02:58:16):
They told me man, my girl Jin she told me
that you you know you're doing that. You're doing that series. Man,
you're doing that serials of course, Yo, we got man,
we got your job, man, your job.
Speaker 2 (02:58:28):
I got the lowest Yo, super dupala, super duper man cracks,
super duper Yo. You're such a professional man. Yo. I
was saying that. I was saying that.
Speaker 1 (02:58:41):
I was like yo, because you know, I know, I know,
you know brother went through you know a couple of
who you know what I mean? How you are you
right now?
Speaker 2 (02:58:52):
Dogs? How you handled you know me?
Speaker 1 (02:58:55):
Because it's a it's a lot of bull Yo. I
was like, Yo, that brother is the most profot right now,
man dogs man like yo, and yo, the gross got
gurses dogs.
Speaker 2 (02:59:08):
I was right there for you.
Speaker 30 (02:59:10):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:59:10):
I was like, Yo, you're gone got it got too
many things, nigga.
Speaker 1 (02:59:15):
We got the queen's lambs. It's Queen's las baby. Where
you ain't queens ladies, where you at? It's Queen's now
in the building.
Speaker 2 (02:59:25):
You know how we do it?
Speaker 1 (02:59:26):
Yo, job man, Yo, But my girls, she told me,
I'm there for the ship room where you be at?
No lord nets in the building, Man, Lord nets in
the building. Man, yoo, you know hold man?
Speaker 2 (02:59:39):
You know old man? Of course, he said, that's the
whole this.
Speaker 1 (02:59:47):
Jod chilling man. Now, Yo, you're chilling man. Mike early Yo, man,
see the guard man. He came through me.
Speaker 2 (02:59:54):
I love this moment, man, I put it together. I'm big.
Queens can lady this moment? Man can to meet him?
One and one from that prince brother borrowed up. Man.
Speaker 19 (03:00:05):
Let to meet your strong SOULDI to massuga, good to
meet you can't.
Speaker 1 (03:00:11):
Mine.
Speaker 2 (03:00:12):
It's mine, it's mine is my. I'm gonna just say
the real quick so no, no, you ship you hell
you mute as your camera. Now you go, now you're back.
Oh this is a big queen ship top you Oh
(03:00:35):
my god, that's on top. I ain't gonna lie like
myself were in were saying later to take you, my
brother take you appreciate that, so yo appreciate that. That's
oh I have more stone rocks. Oh my god, because
I didn't even queens no more. Actually exactly, you know
(03:00:59):
you know what this moment than me. Uh Red Joe
shout out the frost of start.
Speaker 29 (03:01:04):
He came to the r P. My man who stopped.
You might know him, Steve Obell used to hold Steve
O Bell down the ship. Shout out to Steve. He
passed away. We saw at his funeral and he came
to my crib and Fred Jrow came started coming from
my house funeral to mom.
Speaker 2 (03:01:19):
She was like, Yo, that's cute. Moved all that.
Speaker 29 (03:01:23):
But anyway, son looked out and gave me a placement
on honest new joint that just came out.
Speaker 2 (03:01:29):
I got three joints and the new projects so que circle.
One man shot good.
Speaker 29 (03:01:36):
No, I wasn't the records and now brothers just showing
me love. He took me the Q tip cribs out
of the tip man humble because I'm the giant, the
big bro. He's like, no, Nigga, play some ship and
the humble way play some ship. I'm like, well, I
play some ship. The nigga just stopped banging out, start
playing this basis ship to the beat like base on
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this ship and you know, I mean, I just takeing this.
Speaker 2 (03:01:59):
So the smoking beat he comes from.
Speaker 29 (03:02:01):
My love Now for the production and man and one
of that legacy at four twenty ironically we came up
with that.
Speaker 2 (03:02:06):
I did it.
Speaker 29 (03:02:07):
I brought it to pig and they turned into a
movement where this nigga's DM and me talking about I
wanted to beat down and shout out.
Speaker 2 (03:02:14):
To key and they just playing beach Kio Kyo o yo.
The one that he's a Brooklyn Feenie legend.
Speaker 1 (03:02:19):
He did a music group leading graph legend bro like
X Men is on Kyo x Men. He was all
on the double RS. What what you used to ride
the E and the F and ship?
Speaker 2 (03:02:29):
Yeah, yeah, you know he was.
Speaker 1 (03:02:30):
He was.
Speaker 2 (03:02:30):
He was telling, he was saying the RS up and
the seven lines. Second. I used to walk up junction
when school I went to school one twenty five on
what side? So that was up there by Yeah, No,
that's what'sie, that's what's forty six and blitz. So I
just had to take Yeah, so I just had to
take the I had to take the R to the
SAD and switched to me the R to the Jackson Heights.
(03:02:54):
Jackson Heights has switch over. And that's how I met
Queens Bridge. I was It was crazy. Me and Compone
was supposed to meet each other anyway, because copone was
in my same homeroom the year before.
Speaker 3 (03:03:07):
So it's like we were supposed to. But let me
ask you a question, right. One of the biggest clothing
lines in the world.
Speaker 2 (03:03:13):
Mm hmm, I got my ship. Somebody passing my bag too,
I got my ship. What you was going none of you? Okay?
Speaker 3 (03:03:22):
Well, one of the biggest clothing lines in the world
is called Supreme.
Speaker 2 (03:03:26):
Yeah mm hmm. Wow, I mean we need we need,
we need a cunt. By the way, there was a
Supreme in Brooklyn, you need but me that he got it.
He's one, just one, just one, the Supreme in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3 (03:03:41):
But you know, for us, yeah, for us from Queens
we only know when Supreme that's a fact, that's it.
And I actually did great business with Supreme. But I've
always wondered how the Supreme feel about Supreme because like
right now there is there's Virgil, God blesss in peace right,
(03:04:05):
but there's a clothing line called Iraq.
Speaker 2 (03:04:09):
I are a k there's no way, y I ain't
get that from the God. I ain't get that from you. Yeah,
And when I know y'all got that from the funeral
because we actually saw them. I actually saw the people
that own Iraq. Was it a one of one or
was it a series? Did you see many pieces going in?
Going in? All right? And they kind of gave me
(03:04:30):
like a regular five and I was just like.
Speaker 23 (03:04:36):
Me, and you want the same page, mother, is the
same A possibles the eleven September nineteenth, I come from
the eleven like come on, like.
Speaker 2 (03:04:53):
Hold it up, holding up a relative, hold hold it up, brother, Okay, okay, yeah, you.
Speaker 23 (03:05:01):
Know, like like that's what like, come on, like I'm
trying to Yeah, I'm glad you'm me and.
Speaker 2 (03:05:06):
You is here man, because here man. Now he's actolutely
right what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (03:05:11):
Listen, listen, listen, you know what I mean. At the
end of the day. Man, we had talked about that too, exactly.
But at the end of the day, man, you know
what I mean, there's a lot of that going on.
Speaker 2 (03:05:19):
Man. We won't make sure that you are right.
Speaker 5 (03:05:21):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:05:21):
You do your thing. Man, you supreme? Man, you supreme. Now, Man,
we're gonna move this forward.
Speaker 1 (03:05:26):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:05:26):
You know that's how we're going to do that. Man.
Speaker 1 (03:05:28):
We ain't beefing with them.
Speaker 2 (03:05:29):
Man, they do what they do. They skateboard shop.
Speaker 20 (03:05:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:05:31):
You know they've been doing what they do.
Speaker 23 (03:05:33):
And know we're saying what they got the name from
that though, that's what he's trying to say.
Speaker 2 (03:05:38):
They got the name from my pup have to have to.
I don't think so. Supreme is is Supreme. It came
out in ninety five. Though Supreme is is a very
love your positivity. No no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 19 (03:05:49):
Honestly, honestly, are you guys in contact with Supreme And
I want.
Speaker 2 (03:05:53):
To say that that's.
Speaker 1 (03:05:56):
That's right there.
Speaker 2 (03:05:59):
They would actually do collaboration.
Speaker 27 (03:06:01):
That's right, right, friends. I could never building ring about
the culture. There's no way, there's no way.
Speaker 3 (03:06:13):
Like I said, like I said, the people from Iraq
I was playing around earlier, but I did meet them,
and I did realize that they did not acknowledge me
at all.
Speaker 2 (03:06:20):
Right, so how did you how did that deal happen?
You know how many bootleg records I see of your ship?
Of course? How many? But that's but hold up, hold up,
but but how did that?
Speaker 9 (03:06:31):
Like, if they didn't know about you guys, how did
that deal happen?
Speaker 4 (03:06:34):
Then?
Speaker 3 (03:06:35):
I don't know, but I know it was through Virgil
and Virgil. Virgil connected that, Yes, and Virgil was actually
a cool dude to me.
Speaker 2 (03:06:43):
Like I kid you, not me and him.
Speaker 21 (03:06:44):
He was.
Speaker 3 (03:06:45):
He was going to design my fucking wedding, I promise
you he Like I have the pictures of it.
Speaker 1 (03:06:50):
Me and Fat Joe shout out to wife and she's
doing the juice thing right, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:06:53):
She got the juice wall already. You know what you
need to approach them, regardless, But how to me with regardless?
And there's a connected I cannot lie to you. I
cannot lie to you. I'm trying to do without thinking
that they stole it, but.
Speaker 23 (03:07:11):
Going and get something from trying to get connected with them.
Speaker 2 (03:07:13):
For three and a half four years, I've been trying
to because there's no way, shape form of fact well,
we need to all galvanized, like like we need an
organizing name was as they took that name. We need
to tell them that their market sharing hip hop is
because of that name. Brother man, that's what that's what.
Speaker 1 (03:07:31):
That's what has to happen. Is your scape? What's another
skate shop? What's another scape? My mayor, Vinnie, My mayor, Vinnie.
Vinnie is down here to vision vision, let me vision,
No no old comic book.
Speaker 2 (03:07:48):
I actually know. I'm gonna be honest. I believe I
lean with him. I don't think they stolen out. I
don't think they was hip hop company. That's without your name.
Speaker 23 (03:08:02):
I love that brand though, and it would be it
would be so big for the culture for hip hop.
Speaker 2 (03:08:07):
Weurve for everything they'll do. It would be big for
everything right by the name they that would that would
be a horse shot the world. There's that we talked about.
Speaker 24 (03:08:19):
Man, Yes, they need to do.
Speaker 2 (03:08:26):
I think I think, I think, I think bring, I
think Frame deserves that. I think you know what I mean,
do that, man, Man, by the.
Speaker 1 (03:08:35):
Way, do not do that.
Speaker 2 (03:08:37):
They aren't doing.
Speaker 23 (03:08:38):
That's what I was thinking to the documentary.
Speaker 2 (03:08:41):
I was thinking that that would be just the skateboard move.
I just scored a skateboard movie. Bro, I'm taking a shot.
This is skateboarding, hip hop is anonymous and life. Yo, man,
it's cool. Shut up when we talk about skateboard. Yeah,
we're talking about and all the man. Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:09:02):
I just saw you.
Speaker 28 (03:09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:09:06):
I think like all right, just like drink cham.
Speaker 1 (03:09:22):
We gotta get it right us. It's our generation. It's
all left up to us. Yes, that's our generation.
Speaker 12 (03:09:30):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:09:30):
We gotta get this ship right. Man. We got yo. Man.
I love your positivity because I know that's your thread.
Speaker 1 (03:09:35):
God.
Speaker 2 (03:09:35):
I love that ship. I love love, I love I loved.
Speaker 1 (03:09:39):
You used to be Yo, and I wanted to tell
you that, man, Dan, you used to be something.
Speaker 2 (03:09:44):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (03:09:44):
You was you know like many of us. Man, you
was an angry young man at one time.
Speaker 6 (03:09:49):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:09:49):
He was not want to talk to anyone or anything.
Speaker 1 (03:09:51):
I remember reaching out to you being like yo and no, Man,
I'm glad you want to rise and ship you like
you know, like you said, there was that disconnect.
Speaker 2 (03:09:58):
You don't know how to speak to the old. Yeah,
we gotta cut that man, Yo, Go go run up
on the O. G Man guaranteed that nigga gonna love you, man,
You're gonna you and the whole ship. Man. We're doing
that right now. Man. That's why we created happened. Keep
that ship that happened and all that ship. Man. That's
that old way of thinking that that that fucked up.
Speaker 1 (03:10:18):
It's like it's like New York and now, man, Like
we's puffing weed now in New York publicly the police exactly.
It's crazy, man. So it's like, we gotta go with
the new times and what's going on.
Speaker 2 (03:10:29):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:10:30):
Like, it's so sad the past that we come from,
and we'll always keep that in our hearts. But moving forward, man,
we want to fucking move forward together, man, and fucking
just just.
Speaker 2 (03:10:39):
Some fly niggas.
Speaker 11 (03:10:42):
God, I gotta go pick my kids up from school.
I come on you family, you gotta be.
Speaker 2 (03:10:59):
Something later to night. But I play some what is it?
Speaker 29 (03:11:04):
Good?
Speaker 2 (03:11:04):
Good dad? Gig shout out to static selected. Yeah, Terminology
log Yo were making history of the city.
Speaker 21 (03:11:13):
But this is this is crazy dope synergy that you
got this young man had preem you got, you got,
you got nasty, you got uh M one and everybody
connected before drink Champs. Absolutely absolutely, this is this is
dope to see. Man, it's dope to see y'all do now.
Speaker 3 (03:11:33):
We go, let me, let me, let me ask you,
let the bather hit them? Yeah, tell us about that.
So I just elected.
Speaker 1 (03:11:39):
You know what I'm saying. I did the work, and
at them times, you know what I'm saying. You know,
it was my growing pains, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:11:45):
I was in there.
Speaker 1 (03:11:46):
I was ambitious, you know, and now I learned that,
you know what I'm saying, Like I should have just
stayed in my lane. You know, at that time, I
wanted to go to the highest heights them niggas was
kings at the time. Man, it was the highest, the top,
at the top at that time.
Speaker 2 (03:12:01):
And I'm in there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:12:03):
I got my chest stuck out, you know what I mean,
my chest stuck out. I know what I'm doing, and shit,
I know what I know. And like, yo, nah, that
that ship right there, you know, I'm telling him that, Nah,
that ship right there? You know when they seeing and
I was real bold with it, and I don't think
they really agreed with that style, you know what I mean?
Because I was I was a true drink champ from
the start. Nick my mom's everybody, Like we drank coming up,
(03:12:26):
you know what I mean, Like I drew up with
the fucking crabs on the terrace with the little.
Speaker 2 (03:12:30):
Nips of Miller and shit like that.
Speaker 1 (03:12:32):
So I'm drinking. When you talk about drink Champs, I'm like,
you know, I know all the beers, the big beer.
Speaker 2 (03:12:38):
I want to I want you to drink that. You
go through all of those, you know what I mean,
Like I know what it is, Harlem, I know what
it is.
Speaker 1 (03:12:45):
You know what I mean. So that's what that was,
you know, And I was coming in that light and
you know, like how embrace the young bro right here?
You know what I'm saying, Like I'm just telling him
right now, like he he a little angry about like Yo,
you know I think supreme you know me.
Speaker 2 (03:12:59):
Need to do And I'm like, yo, no, no, no,
not angry exactly. It's not peace. Who's who? Well, let
me say in better words, he feel the way and
aggressively go in and get the collaboration. But no, no,
it ain't not in a bad way.
Speaker 1 (03:13:17):
I'm just saying even that, But it's more the fact
how he feel about that ship, like how he feels
like damn he feel a way about that ship to exactly.
You know what I mean, he feel a way about
that and that's and that's what we gotta get right,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:13:31):
What I mean about how did why Cleft get in
the video for Let the Rhythm Hit Him? He's in
that video playing the bass. He said that the story
is these two of some hip hop stories, for real
hip hop story.
Speaker 18 (03:13:47):
That ship he worked at the bookstore. The bookstore, come on,
you already know man, I don't know, Man, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:13:58):
Bro know No, that's when I was out the fold
and Ship.
Speaker 1 (03:14:04):
They had the music already, they was good and now
Wild Cleff was dancing.
Speaker 2 (03:14:11):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (03:14:13):
Nah, but yo, let the rhythm hit them, ship, you
know what I mean, Like it was a learning experience
for me. We went through a little fucking fiasco on
the Source magazine, you know what I mean. I did
the interview, you know what I mean, niggas do me.
They was like, Yo, it's gonna be off, It's gonna
be off the off the record, you know what I mean.
We're talking off the record, and all the ship that
I was saying to them quietly wound up on the record.
(03:14:33):
And then it just caused, you know what I mean,
like a little wrath and ship like I.
Speaker 2 (03:14:38):
Was admitting that you produced the whole album, right, which
was facts, just facts.
Speaker 1 (03:14:43):
But in the in, in the process, you know, there's
an industry thing that you do where you smooth things over,
your buffer.
Speaker 2 (03:14:52):
Things and you do like problems with you and Eric
B because of that.
Speaker 1 (03:14:56):
No, there was never a problem, Nigga. There's this fucking
myth out there about every bee put his hands on me.
Never that never that he is the flyes nigga on earth. Man,
that niggas too cool to put his hands like he do.
That nigga too cool to even give you a pound.
Speaker 2 (03:15:12):
He ain't gonna yo, yo.
Speaker 1 (03:15:16):
Man, that's that's a fly nigga. And I was so
fucking privileged to have seen them niggas and they fucking.
Speaker 2 (03:15:22):
That's another man.
Speaker 1 (03:15:27):
I could never Man, I could never, man, you know
what I'm saying, I can never discount that ship man,
the guards, the guards, the big bros, the kings at
that time, let me in the building.
Speaker 2 (03:15:37):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:15:38):
I'm you know, glasses and glasses ass nigga coming from
Flushing Queens, coming from the wackiest part of town trying
to rap with you. You know, I got everything against me. Nigga,
did you feel with your glasses?
Speaker 2 (03:15:53):
No? No, no, no, I didn't. But that's how niggas
see me. That's real because one thing I said, you
can't see me. We did. He did People's party. We
ain't put it out yet, but we talked. We ain't
put it. I thought that was already out with last professor. Yeah,
I swear my mind, I said.
Speaker 21 (03:16:07):
I said, for me coming in and coming in from
as a hip hop person, not from the street side,
to see this man with his afro, yo, I gotta.
Speaker 2 (03:16:16):
As he did. He had a little glasses. It was bully.
Speaker 1 (03:16:35):
It was funny because look, man, I took on a
hard life. I didn't have to. But the way I
was raised, I was raised with every like how every
one of us was with the fucking template. You gotta
get the house to call the kid, the money, the
kid to home, that type ship. That's what everybody's raised,
you know what I mean. So I was going for
that ship, and it was a little hard for me
(03:16:57):
because I was like a hip hop purist. So when
I get into the industry and I've seen the town,
fool of read that was going on in the industry.
I'm like, hold up, Nah, hold up that niggas faking
the funk, Like oh no, this is this is.
Speaker 2 (03:17:10):
The girl hip hop purism, Like we all followed you,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:17:14):
So now I'm starting to call that ship, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (03:17:16):
And that.
Speaker 1 (03:17:17):
But on the outside, to the younger to the young bros,
they're like, yo, that thing is disgruntled, Like why he
always complaining like he always complained about the industry, Like like.
Speaker 2 (03:17:28):
You know, I had the mushroom cut with the bookroom hat,
with the crazy glasses. Niggas was like I'm getting.
Speaker 1 (03:17:36):
Like, it's just what it was.
Speaker 2 (03:17:38):
It's just what you're doing what everybody else wasn't.
Speaker 1 (03:17:41):
I love, But I want to write a song one day,
and I want to write a song called kid on
the cover, and I want to talk about who that
kid was, you know what I mean, because I know
who that was, you know what I mean? And yeah,
who lost professor was at that time? You know, I
know why NAS had to you know what I mean
kind of like you know, because it was a different
(03:18:01):
I was on a different mission, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:18:03):
Point That's that that was the that was the illest thing.
At one point you and I was like motherfucking Quincy
and Mike question and then and then it disappeared what
had happened at that time?
Speaker 1 (03:18:16):
Well, Steve Stout, I'm asking I had a different I
had a different.
Speaker 2 (03:18:19):
Well Steve Steve.
Speaker 1 (03:18:21):
Actually one time Steve came through and he was he
came through for a kid and play remix that I did,
so he used to manage here.
Speaker 30 (03:18:30):
This kidding, Yeah, I feel the same play before I know,
but I want to hear this reason.
Speaker 1 (03:18:41):
But like Steve, Steve was down with like everybody in
the hearst Early like he was down with the East
Elmhurst community.
Speaker 3 (03:18:49):
Steve Stout really trying to look out for me. I
was like, too fucking dumb and too fucking young, and
two gangster like that'suff came along, came.
Speaker 1 (03:19:01):
Very like me do with me.
Speaker 2 (03:19:05):
But don't remember his interview.
Speaker 9 (03:19:08):
He was very opinionated in what he thought was good
and bad about me, but in general on hip hop.
Speaker 1 (03:19:14):
And but that's the whole ship that we need. We
need instead of the older bros like saying, oh that
nigga man, I can't, like, I gotta get away from that.
Just explain like, yo, you're doing it like you said
he was doing that.
Speaker 2 (03:19:27):
Man. Know, I'm saying this is what we needed need
a documentary about. You know we're gonna do anyway in
an animal fucking movie and all that. Can I ask
the questions everybody? Here is what I think. And let's
get this. You could put if you could put the
Golden Era in an asterisk, right, and what an asterisk
(03:19:49):
in a parentheses asteris asteris whatever. I don't know if
I speak the right language, speaking of the span as
an ass not right, that's not to me. So let's
just say you put the gold there in there right
for me? I believe, in my opinion, main source is
the beginning of that beginning of the Golden ERAa no, no, no, no,
(03:20:15):
Jungle Brothers and all of them. Bro hold up, we're
I'm not asking you. I'm asking everybody else. You're not.
You're not I'm not asking. I want to. I want to.
I want to help year the fast right year to
breaking at them. I think it's ninety two right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:20:32):
Knowledge, That's all we did was moving knowledge.
Speaker 2 (03:20:34):
Shout out to Dante Royd. What do you think? What
do you think?
Speaker 5 (03:20:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:20:36):
Shout out to Dante ros why we shouting down? Really,
you don't want to set them out. They ain't humble,
No moms, the quarter with fucking paradise grating all of them.
Speaker 29 (03:20:47):
And from when I did my research, that started the
Golden Era the Latin quarters because.
Speaker 1 (03:20:52):
So does that include what I'm saying or no, Well
everyone has a different Golden Well remember.
Speaker 12 (03:21:00):
Only speaking musically because remember I'm not I'm not in
New Yorks.
Speaker 2 (03:21:04):
Just want to ask about the year shout out beautiful.
By the way, I'm not going here, this is my music.
I'm not say.
Speaker 1 (03:21:15):
He was signing.
Speaker 2 (03:21:18):
King ready to being right? All these woman keep going.
So this that's what you call it this year? Because
my theory is that the that the era that we
sorry sorry, do you believe in the Golden Era like that?
Speaker 1 (03:21:37):
That is that?
Speaker 2 (03:21:38):
That is a thing? Yeah, yeah, I do. But but
it's subjective, okay.
Speaker 12 (03:21:45):
From jeeing us here, subjective for waiting on the salmon,
what you you're born and.
Speaker 2 (03:21:49):
What's your tenure Golden ever time? So for me, Golden
Ever starts a.
Speaker 21 (03:21:52):
Tenure time frame. For me, it's nineteen eighty eight, so
you look ninety eight. I'm just saying eighty eight period.
I'm saying starting I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, all
the albums that came out in eighty eight are the
albums that that define for me from my eerr what
a hip hop record.
Speaker 2 (03:22:11):
Is supposed to sound. Because it was like samples like
that sample lyricism, and it's lyricism E P D. It's
all this, all that lyricism starts there and but and
his n W A and J Jeff Yeah, oh my,
you know what I'm saying. But you know what's funny
(03:22:31):
in my opinion, No, no, no, that is the predecessor
to the Golden Era in my I do have this.
You did mention this? Yeah, what's that right that? What's
that right there?
Speaker 1 (03:22:44):
Grab ship, That's that's your lineage. That's what you actually
need to listen to this because you the hustling lineage.
He's talking a lot of you know, chilling on the
sofa with my dollar sign sweater. He said that on
this you know what I mean, Like yo, he said
a lot of fly. He got a joint call on.
Speaker 21 (03:22:59):
Fly on this listen then and the and the Rap
g Rapp g rap preceide Big Time Guarantee because rabbit.
Speaker 2 (03:23:10):
Curtains, ball.
Speaker 21 (03:23:12):
G rapping, big punt and then if you listen to
Black Door, your Black Door.
Speaker 2 (03:23:17):
G rap and Big Daddy camee mixed together. Also Philly Ship. Listen, listen.
Speaker 12 (03:23:23):
The black thought is one of the hillis mcs to
ever live, to ever live, Man, I don't think he
came from the knowledge soon enough credit that he needs.
Speaker 1 (03:23:33):
He brought him to the staircase. Man, he didn't, He didn't.
He didn't he like you know he was. We brought
him to the staircase.
Speaker 2 (03:23:39):
I think, black. Do you know the staircase?
Speaker 1 (03:23:42):
No, no, no, we didn't say. We didn't say. We said,
we said, we said the staircase. That's where niggas sit
there and they listened and they listen to music. That's
the way we listened to our music.
Speaker 2 (03:23:54):
And the staircase.
Speaker 1 (03:23:55):
Staircase no, not by itself. With many of us need
us brothers, and we will have for one of us.
Speaker 12 (03:24:03):
We would have many of us see and call out
Towers is a dark staircase and we're just there.
Speaker 2 (03:24:08):
It's well lit and.
Speaker 1 (03:24:11):
This year pieces all why in call out so we
could we could accommodate many So many have claimed going
to our Yeah, man, it's really nice man. And we're
sitting there and the ship is echoing off the walls.
Were being there playing Mary j blocking glens all that ship. No,
because that's like my man late for dinner. That's where
(03:24:33):
they at, Like my man late for dinner. He'll pull
out the motherfucking generator and the turntables. I met him
in the b X, like the rabbi. Rabbi dok Syde
big up him. Man, he's a very very very rabbi
dog side. Yes, sir, no doubt that.
Speaker 2 (03:24:50):
The first hop I'm gonna tell you this. I'm gonna
you this. He's a no. But listen, no, no, I'll
tell you this. Rabbi.
Speaker 1 (03:25:05):
I was just building with him and he's like, Yo,
I just ran this marathon real quick, I'm about to
run this net. So we we we're just gonna leave
that right there. You know what, Rabbi, that's the Rabbi.
So he said he sent late. He was like, Yo,
go to the BX and see loss professor and late
you know he came through yet this girl with him
and he's like, Yo, what up man? Yo, the Rabbi
sent me and so boom he was like, Yo, I'm
(03:25:26):
gonna go to the amphitheat. I'm gonna bring the turntables
and the generator and the records out like wow up
like wowated Wild the brother recated Wild Staff and Yo.
I zoomed down there real quick. So that's where we're
at with the youngins right now. Like they've a lot, Man,
(03:25:48):
I need one of those.
Speaker 2 (03:25:48):
Is this drink MPs? I need to hood, I need
the hood you everything I got you, I got you.
Where's the drink? Like we got them from? I got you?
Speaker 3 (03:26:00):
Let me just tell you something I got you. You
got you all the quaint essential guests that we want.
Speaker 2 (03:26:06):
To absolutely you legends like a million times, a few times,
a million times we finished. Let me give you your flowers,
large bro in a lot of ways, Marley ma large
Pro if it does If it's no Molly mar and
there's no large Pro, there's no drink Champs. You want
(03:26:28):
to break it down for you, that's I mean, we
could go through all the branch. Let me break Let
me give you a bunch of bands. Say yes, he's
but let me just break it down for you to
get your long wait. Let me let me bring you.
Speaker 3 (03:26:44):
Put your connections to nas nas with his connection to connect, leave.
Speaker 2 (03:26:48):
His connection to me. If it wasn't for you, it
might not be n O R. That's real because of you.
I mean you know I did good at school man.
(03:27:11):
We took all there.
Speaker 3 (03:27:13):
Yeah, if it wasn't for you, they might not be
an r A, they might not be a CNN, they
might not be tours man, might not be.
Speaker 2 (03:27:23):
Yes, listen, but let me give you your flowers. Bro
to two three four five coming, I'll be Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (03:27:32):
Anytime you're gonna get your flowers, you donna get your
props to day.
Speaker 2 (03:27:35):
Appreciate you, bro, right now. My brother really the pops
was on the ball. There's still not hold on about
you today. It's what used today. Let me just tell
you something large, bro, because my used to chill left
right to with the brother from Let me give you
your props. Let me give you your prop. You see
(03:27:56):
this brother right here, that's your bro. You see this
brother right here. You see his brother right here. You
see and one. We are all here because of you,
absolute you. We're not you got here. Although everyone loves
Japanese whiskey, yes, yes as well.
Speaker 1 (03:28:14):
I saw you.
Speaker 2 (03:28:15):
I saw your hot ones.
Speaker 3 (03:28:16):
But taking it back about you, that was like, let
me tell you something. I gotta give your flowers. You
got to embrace it because I see you deflected.
Speaker 2 (03:28:31):
That's what you're doing. You're deflecting because your use collection.
We got talking about it. Come on, you know your
large pro Please Bro, accept it. But you know what
I can do. I can give your flowers. I can
(03:28:52):
give you your props.
Speaker 3 (03:28:53):
I can give you your praises because I'm being honest,
large pro.
Speaker 2 (03:28:56):
You deserve it. Just accepted, just because you know what
you talk about. You know, my sister, great, great god,
come down, list listen. I am listen.
Speaker 1 (03:29:26):
Large Bro.
Speaker 2 (03:29:27):
You are a god. You are a legend, you are icon.
You you deserve everything that we are talking to you
about right now.
Speaker 12 (03:29:38):
Hold hold on, hold on, let me take it away
from because this is You're gonna be used to a
queen's guy giving you queen's love.
Speaker 2 (03:29:45):
This is a Miami guy.
Speaker 5 (03:29:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:29:47):
I'm just a hip hop head. Yes, and you are
a legend. Did you used to break? I tried, I try,
I popped, I locked your feet. I did everything.
Speaker 5 (03:29:58):
I did everything.
Speaker 2 (03:30:01):
That was everything.
Speaker 12 (03:30:03):
And now we love you, dog. You mean everything was
everything to us. You know that, honest, honestly honestly, you
are legacy, calling you are legacy and hip hop that
he so much.
Speaker 2 (03:30:19):
We call me, we say, but I don't know he's borrowing.
But no one last pro man. I'm being honest. Man,
I love you. Man, Let me get to you, Let
me take such section two. I'm like, you're gonna take
(03:30:47):
the next gona take the bus next year.
Speaker 3 (03:30:50):
It because I know how humble you are and that
that makes you even more a better person to to to.
But I wanted to tell you you are really a legend,
you are really an icon. You are really When we
based this show, we said we wanted to give flowers
to the people that matter, that matter to us, that
(03:31:14):
matters to real hip hop. And I'm gonna be honest
with you. You was top five of our first guests
we ever did it. And the fact that I had
your phone number and I didn't want to take advantage because.
Speaker 2 (03:31:26):
I was I was texting you and he was like, yeah, maybe,
but you.
Speaker 1 (03:31:31):
Know how you text great date great weather outside.
Speaker 2 (03:31:36):
I said, no, you know trauma.
Speaker 1 (03:31:50):
And now he's on the left, he's on the love shide,
He's on the love shide.
Speaker 31 (03:31:56):
I love it, But brother, I'm gonna be honest that ship.
I'm gonna be honest with you. Love, no no, and
all seriousness from some ship. Yeah yeah, but all seriousness you.
You are really a legend, bro. No no for you lord, Yo,
(03:32:18):
hold on.
Speaker 2 (03:32:18):
Hold number nine. Shout out. Shouts to Jasmine, shout out
to people's.
Speaker 28 (03:32:22):
Are listen Yo, the podcast amazing. You love your podcast.
That's just easy on not saying you we love you,
cousin podcast. Son is crazy, my son and my daughter
and everything. But like like nor, he said, we're giving
you your flower your day.
Speaker 2 (03:32:37):
Man, what I'm saying he's not reflected because you know
why a large bro. Man. Let me just tell you something. Listen,
no real talk. We was aflector dot com to get
Oh that's my trying to make yourself whole. He trying
to fucking beat the people's.
Speaker 1 (03:32:53):
But you know what I mean, I'm like, Yo, no, Brontu,
here you take on that whole, but he's taking on
the whole ship or lost.
Speaker 2 (03:33:04):
In case you give each other. In case you don't know,
lost bro, this is yes, we are here for you. Yes,
we are here for you.
Speaker 3 (03:33:14):
You deserve your flowers, lost bro, Look, you deserve your flowers.
Speaker 2 (03:33:19):
You look into his eyes.
Speaker 4 (03:33:20):
Yes, yes, he's not doing that to joe yash Medo
joy look at you, look at his ice to your
see what do you see?
Speaker 2 (03:33:31):
Look right now he's sampled your eyeballs.
Speaker 1 (03:33:34):
Ya y'all mother to make it if I pull up
the facts, I could pull up the facts.
Speaker 2 (03:33:38):
We'll pull it up later. But get somebody.
Speaker 1 (03:33:45):
Much too much.
Speaker 2 (03:33:47):
You gotta relax, y'all. Listen, listen, look at bro Man
large bro, all of us like to live.
Speaker 3 (03:33:55):
Just said, I want to hear what you'll live, he said,
because I said I wouldn't be here with out you,
and then tyd Lib said you wouldn't be here without him?
Speaker 2 (03:34:03):
So can you can?
Speaker 5 (03:34:04):
You?
Speaker 2 (03:34:06):
Can you come down? Relax? It's time you've got a
queen's hat on too. Large Bro.
Speaker 21 (03:34:13):
We need you to not just you know Main Source
and the work that when when Large Professor went from
first of all, we dropped that Large Professor record before
the main flow main source record came out. And then
when he went on to do what he did with
trop Court Quest, and he went on to do what
he did with with NAS later on with State chiseled
(03:34:34):
and and all that type of ship. You know what
I'm saying, Like large. Professor is the purest of the
pure he is he is the foundation of it.
Speaker 2 (03:34:44):
You see what I'm saying. Man, somebody's snoring back here.
Let's wrap this up.
Speaker 1 (03:34:52):
Let's get back to DJ cow Man, Let's get back
to DJ Colt.
Speaker 2 (03:34:56):
I need somebody, you are nobody to be.
Speaker 1 (03:35:07):
Rocket for me.
Speaker 2 (03:35:11):
And then what about the dance squad interview, the ball
squad you're keeping them now public? Indemy?
Speaker 5 (03:35:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:35:20):
It was that that album? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:35:25):
Yeah, thank Keith and Humbly. You got to get my
man Ayatolla to mixing him because that's your lineage. Brother.
Speaker 2 (03:35:34):
Yes, so these are people also.
Speaker 1 (03:35:36):
That I would love to see you on drink Champs Man,
Humbly Man, I would love to. I definitely love your platform,
you know, because honestly, you need to get the flowers.
Speaker 2 (03:35:46):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:35:46):
I get my flowers daily, man for my people's man,
and I love that you're giving me. You have given
me my flowers also. But you bro, because you came
up some ship, bro, and I know that.
Speaker 2 (03:35:57):
Thank you. No, fat man, Day, it's not you, it's
but today. You know what today is, I'm officially called today.
Speaker 15 (03:36:10):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (03:36:11):
From seventeenth is large professional knowledge power, the knowledge gone.
That's today's man gone as not as god O being
ball bill destroyed.
Speaker 1 (03:36:25):
There we go, my man on my You know what
my act was, Prince infinite love of law.
Speaker 3 (03:36:32):
You look like a lover because told me you never
left the relationship and looking at the front door.
Speaker 2 (03:36:40):
Hit me. She just hit me. But I'm sorry, not
just she just she just hit me for my birthday.
Speaker 1 (03:36:46):
And the girl, the girl that you were talking about.
Reck No, no, no, not that I was talking about that.
I was around at that time. And she just hit
me for my birthday. Everything is so good. She has
her family. You know, she was from Left Rack. Her
name is Sakima's like she was beautiful, not the.
Speaker 2 (03:37:01):
Girl, but beautiful exactly. We know that for a fact.
We come from This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 20 (03:37:11):
It's a problem. It was a problem for us. We
came from what are we talking about. We're talking about
the Queen's lounge. We're talking about the Queen's lounge. When
we come down, it was it was just like it
was just like to like Queen's Eddie Murphy how he
said it, That's how it was. And left Rack that's
how it was. And Flushing, that's how it was.
Speaker 2 (03:37:31):
Like and the most beauti the world.
Speaker 1 (03:37:34):
What you she had to like, she had to she chose,
you know, she had to like deal with that that
you knew many many beautiful. But she knew that like
she knew you. You hang around many. No, we we
you guys were different. We went different ways because.
Speaker 2 (03:37:53):
She lives that you never left. No, no, he did
look at the front door. Woman, No woman believes me.
He was trying to work it out, he said, no
woman on one only one.
Speaker 1 (03:38:05):
Woman left me. She I won't say that. I don't
won't say that because boy, well my son, it's about you,
my son. I love my son. You know what I mean.
But only one woman left me, you know what I mean?
And other than that, now, no woman leaves me. Man,
they rock with me because.
Speaker 32 (03:38:26):
He was itching the jet though he was itching. But
you looked at the front door. If you never walked through,
he said, no, look cherish in my crib. So we
had a front door in the back door. You know
what story about.
Speaker 1 (03:38:37):
Hey, Look, my pops used to smoke his weed before
he went to the hospital to do his job.
Speaker 2 (03:38:43):
Five o'clock in the morning. Man, I wrote my name
on the wall.
Speaker 1 (03:38:46):
Man, he was like lost pro man, you got some
big shoes to fill man and with to work, you
know what I mean. He used to hang out with Wise.
He used to hang out with all of them man
for yeah, hell yeah, man. My pops used to hang
out with Moose the big small Popsy should work at
the hospital, Kelly. Yes, she used to work with my
(03:39:08):
pops at the hospital.
Speaker 2 (03:39:09):
He's Queen's for real. Queen was Queen Pops.
Speaker 1 (03:39:18):
He's super.
Speaker 2 (03:39:19):
He's super Q for his pops in them.
Speaker 3 (03:39:21):
Used to rack, used to rock the front door. Hall body,
I'll tell you one time. I don't know, I don't
I don't know if we're gonna use this, but I'm
gonna say it. I'm on the van Wick. Your pops
see me, and he pulled me over like the police
(03:39:43):
with God, this is pream. You got to pull over.
Speaker 2 (03:39:48):
You can't keep going, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:39:52):
Felt But he like, yo, He looked at me and
he says, I'm not I think I'm Norri, but I'm
I'm like becoming who I am yet And to.
Speaker 1 (03:40:03):
Cut your wards for a second, yo, dogs, Yo, you
was ringing so crazy in Jamaica.
Speaker 2 (03:40:10):
Dogs, I went to this barbecue. Dogs, dolls, dolls.
Speaker 1 (03:40:16):
Stop that fucking album was ringing so hard.
Speaker 2 (03:40:21):
Oh my god. I went to this barbecue one time.
I was lit.
Speaker 1 (03:40:24):
I was over there on one nineteen America American.
Speaker 2 (03:40:27):
Ships giving him. I had to do. I had to
get no, look, I had to I had to create
for self. I had the house for self.
Speaker 1 (03:40:39):
That's whereas I think NAS bought you want to do
one time with nature and all of them. Ship, But
I was down in the basement that type of ship.
So I was over there. But I went to this
this barbecue and Rochdale rode So I'm moving in Rochdale
and ship. But it was in the outskirts the houses
and shipp on, you know, going back down towards Baisley.
You know what I'm talking about, houses in between the
(03:41:01):
ship between Baisley and Rodsteale. So I'm in the backyard
and ship and I'm lit and ship. I had to
whip outside and ship. I was chilling the ship. My
man's with me and not fucking what what what?
Speaker 2 (03:41:15):
No dogs? It was the it was the height of summer.
Speaker 5 (03:41:20):
This it was.
Speaker 2 (03:41:21):
It was the I'm gonna take my flower? Do you
want to hear it? Man?
Speaker 1 (03:41:31):
But you you just said Adolf was I told him,
I got I got to card and hold that down.
Speaker 2 (03:41:37):
I'm hold on, I tell you, and the Q you
get three fishes the story. But yeah, so I'm on
the van Wick.
Speaker 3 (03:41:50):
I'm driving obviously I've always been a hot driver. Crazes
me and he goes like this, So I'm like okay,
because it's like kind of like the police. It's like
you can't, you can't, you can't say extreme, I'm I'm
I'm a stream.
Speaker 2 (03:42:09):
How did you know? Did you know that? You know
it was preing from the starts? Green eyes? Brother? Oh
you do them? Ships? Lit the funk up? How did
you know? You my love has green eyes? Now you
know you need to pull over. That was a big victim,
yes ma mambo.
Speaker 1 (03:42:25):
So so.
Speaker 2 (03:42:28):
He used to go like this, boom, So I pull over.
I'm nervous ship because that's frame. What the is prame
pulling you fucking oh for everyone in the van Wick.
And it's just like, so.
Speaker 1 (03:42:41):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (03:42:43):
This isn't guardens right before you get like that, you know, man?
And then frame for me?
Speaker 5 (03:42:59):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:42:59):
Then and I was like, what's up? He's like, yo,
I know, I know you don't understand, but don't shot.
Speaker 2 (03:43:06):
Me out and I was as a rapper. Yeah, he's saying,
don't jump out the day he like, he like, I'm
still in the field when you shot me out. You're
kind of telling the him like you shout him out that.
Prior to that, it was on mixtapes, it was like,
you know, he like, yo, He's like yo, please, please please,
(03:43:28):
Like I'm trying to be right. I'm like, you have
to mean due respect for that. You were like, yo, No,
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (03:43:35):
I was.
Speaker 2 (03:43:37):
Just come from.
Speaker 3 (03:43:40):
Trying to flog ship Supreme Queens and rhymes together and
he like, but but I didn't understand bying you.
Speaker 2 (03:43:49):
He had twenty one.
Speaker 3 (03:43:51):
I'm eighteen to twenty one, so I didn't really like
at that time, I didn't understand Stone.
Speaker 2 (03:43:57):
In the days. I was like, what, I'm a Stone.
I'm big in him.
Speaker 3 (03:44:00):
You're doing ask homage. I'm homage and Yonda is like,
now you say what you say back? Well, he's explaining,
like because he broke it down, like it's just me
and him on the highway. There's no microphone, so he's comfortable,
like it's like just me and him, and so you're
here sooner, band Wick, my dude, we're on the.
Speaker 2 (03:44:23):
Side, and he's like, nah, because you know, I'm still
sound effect. Man, he just took me to the sound.
Speaker 3 (03:44:34):
He like, he like without saying that, he's like, yo,
I'm still outside. So you know when y'all shot me out,
y'all kind of like put me in a position.
Speaker 2 (03:44:44):
So I said, you know what, I absolutely won man
assent did not know that. And then I had a
person that was with me named bodyguard, Oh bodyguard, nobody God.
Bodyguard was means home mean back in the bodyguard.
Speaker 3 (03:45:01):
Jumps out and premous like he says his real name.
I don't want to say his real name, but he
goes you.
Speaker 2 (03:45:07):
He's like you're supposed to know, and then body like
you know, no, you know what, He'll never shout shut
you out again, you know, and then like yo, it's
all up, It's all up.
Speaker 3 (03:45:21):
And then a certain song came out after that, which
I don't want to speak about, but.
Speaker 2 (03:45:26):
Exactly right, right right, you know what I mean, thank you.
I know that he wanted let's try to wanted everybody
from the borrow.
Speaker 3 (03:45:35):
Like your watch because and I gotta say, as a kid,
I don't want to say I felt threatened, but I
felt you knew better but I felt like I knew
better afterwards, like afterwards because he did not, you know
what I mean, a special request. That was my special
(03:45:57):
when you do that and that it but that was respectful,
you know what I'm saying. And I give another story
about the Pots.
Speaker 1 (03:46:05):
Well, I met some niggas from the group ho on
right when I went to the group home in Brooklyn.
I was in Pis twelve or sixth Avenue and Ship.
I met exactly, yes, sir, yes, sir. So I was.
Speaker 2 (03:46:17):
So I met some niggas from Baisley and Ship.
Speaker 1 (03:46:19):
My man Corey and my man Black Black was Black
Black was actually I think Prince's uh little brother something
like that. His name his real name was Rob and
she's all right, so I don't know who he was,
but he was definitely down with them and Ship. And
they used to tell me stories of Kat and Pream
(03:46:39):
and and and then with Eric being them and Ship
when I when I was doing the elet rhythm hit
him joint. You know, they had their basketball squad and
so they had played Baisley and so me and Fatal
was out there, Rock.
Speaker 2 (03:46:52):
Kim was playing.
Speaker 1 (03:46:54):
No, it was it was it was painting full against
Supreme team, and I was out that's tough out there
in Baisily and Ship I was out there and Ship
Rock Kim was playing the whole ship.
Speaker 2 (03:47:07):
And that's the ship that I love. That's the ship
that I love.
Speaker 1 (03:47:11):
Where niggas just standing out there, it's like, yo, that's him,
he's in the hood. Ship is all love and it's
like we we we were going at it like whatever
it is. If niggas doing pull ups, niggas doing that,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (03:47:22):
Like I get you two more stories much as bosh.
Speaker 5 (03:47:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:47:27):
I don't know if y'all know. I don't know if
anybody know. I went to church in Baisley. That's where
I went to church. I was baptized in East New York.
I was baptized ship right there that church fast. So
my church that I used to go through is in Baisley.
(03:47:50):
So one year, I swear to God, I've never said
this story before in my life.
Speaker 23 (03:47:55):
Drink chance, exclusive, exclusive, exclusive, exclusive and rich for.
Speaker 3 (03:48:03):
What y'all don't understand is and I don't know if
this correlates. I don't know if your father might call
and say no noways bugging. But Griselda Blanc girl came
to Queen. We got that connected. And when she came
to Queens, Queen's niggas did not go uptown again.
Speaker 2 (03:48:22):
Queen's niggas stayed in Queens.
Speaker 3 (03:48:24):
Because she was from She was from Jackson Heights and
she was selling pots.
Speaker 2 (03:48:28):
Oh this is this is documented like eighty second Street, right,
some ship like that. Seventy four son is our friend
right now today frame random niggas.
Speaker 3 (03:48:44):
In my opinion, I was on the young nigga, so
I looked at this wrong. They had all the coke
in New York's. I'm just being honest. I'm sorry, I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (03:48:53):
Oh my god, that's lost pro And this is the
first time if you look at paid in for? What
did I say in paid for?
Speaker 3 (03:49:02):
I say the nigga's a cute nig He was riding
popping release. You know where I saw that at in
forty projects M M forty pays rich and Paul. I
was like eleven years.
Speaker 2 (03:49:16):
Old and I seen Richmond Poe coming to see UF bops. Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:49:23):
I apologize that crazy because because they had nothing uptown. Yeah,
we had it all in Queen. This is when Gazelda
Blanco came. I didn't know that that correlated til later
I watched Cocaine Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (03:49:35):
I was like, oh, myel I mean all that this
ship makes sense, Yes, everything, Kendall Man. Yes, after Cocaine.
That's the first time.
Speaker 3 (03:49:44):
So when you see me describing paid and for and
I say the rich nigga, the nigga is popping release,
that was actually in forty projects. It might have been
in Baisley. It could have been both, because I was
with my uncle wives. My uncle wives was Preeme little
Home Uncle watch from left Brack.
Speaker 2 (03:50:08):
Uncle was Prince Brothers name is was crazy right. So
that's how I knew.
Speaker 3 (03:50:16):
Your whole fare That's that's That's one story. I got
another one. Damn you can tell me of camera one.
Speaker 2 (03:50:22):
I got one more. I forgot what the But.
Speaker 3 (03:50:27):
That was the first time I realized what Queens was like,
because was the biggest drug dealers and they came to
Queens and they had fun Like primer niggas showed them.
It was like, yoka ahead, go go pop your willies whatever.
(03:50:47):
In forty and basically what I mean it.
Speaker 2 (03:50:50):
Was about niggas being fly.
Speaker 1 (03:50:51):
You hear the stories about cat having the having the
whip and being like yo, you know what, like Yo,
you look better than that ship. Yo.
Speaker 2 (03:50:58):
Take that ship like we were so all about her.
Speaker 1 (03:51:00):
And that's the thing that I tapped into, Like I
love that part of it, like niggas getting fresh. Like
I love that scene of them brothers and crystals on
the stage with mel melling them and they pop and
they got the bottle.
Speaker 2 (03:51:12):
You saw that that scene, man, I felt like, hed it.
Speaker 1 (03:51:16):
I love that scene. No, I want to relive that
scene scene with l L and and and and Curtis
blowing them, bigging them up. They're like, yo, now these
boys is these boys and birthday Prince Birthday, Prince birthday
(03:51:39):
Mart Okay, So that scene, man, I got this. I
got this music in my mind that I will put
to that scene. And I swear it's the most euphoric,
light like hip hop ship right there, them with that
money and them bottles and all that he had to
shine my ship cuts.
Speaker 2 (03:52:02):
I never been more proud to be from Queens. Man.
Oh sorry, When you look at that it plays and you.
Speaker 3 (03:52:16):
Realize that LJ is in the couting crowd as a
lot of holie that as a little home, I gotta
get him sitting there and l Story was saying, I'm
here with Supreme team, Like I couldn't get in here
unless I was with the Supreme Team.
Speaker 2 (03:52:36):
But I couldn't get on stage because I wasn't that day, right,
He stayed in his lane. And that's why I want
to swing it back. I want to swing it back
to the every being rock Ship. Yes, please.
Speaker 1 (03:52:51):
Exactly if I like, Yo, all right, I got good beats,
but I'm gonna stay in my lane and not you
know what I mean, because that's what he was like, Yo,
I'm gonna stay in my lane, and so you know,
that's that's what I you know, I know knowing no
one is half the battle ship. Yeah, I mean world
up like rock.
Speaker 2 (03:53:10):
Can we say worried up Queen's history? Man, that's dope.
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (03:53:17):
Though, No, No, that were still paved the lane, were
still paved the lane, you know, through the hardships and
the bullship and all that, Anna Queen Queen.
Speaker 2 (03:53:29):
If we gotta jump to our live, it's okay right now.
Speaker 5 (03:53:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:53:35):
A certain confidence, now, yo, don't. And I'm born and I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:53:44):
Born in hall them, and I honestly say, no queens
a lot queens.
Speaker 2 (03:53:48):
Queens is the.
Speaker 1 (03:53:49):
Borough like and I'm born in hall Them and and
I have so much Hallom schools, all all that fhip,
all that all that instinct that I got with them records.
That's hall Them ship. Like that ain't Queens ship, that's
home ship. By the way, this is not a metat.
Speaker 2 (03:54:02):
This is a New York man at New York cuban.
That's crazy. He used to work at the bookstore.
Speaker 5 (03:54:15):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (03:54:16):
He used to work at the book book still used
to work at. I wanted to Queen. I worked at
the Q Books and me and.
Speaker 21 (03:54:25):
YA seen they actually bought in que Books after and
we couldn't with bookstore. Business is hard business, so we
couldn't keep it open. But I do sell books on
my website, Quality Club. But you had your own bookstore.
I at that time I didn't before when we Blackstar money,
our advanced money for Blackstar, we bought the bookstore because
the bookstore.
Speaker 2 (03:54:43):
Is going to go Wow. That's so now I still
have if you go on Quality club dot com. That
boy the start together. We want to from the start man.
Speaker 1 (03:54:55):
And I got so inspired when he reached out to
me because I saw it. Take no young rose out there. Man,
just so yo, if you you know, just just reach
out you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:55:05):
He reached out man, and I'm madly yo, man, you crazy, yeah, yeah, shout.
Speaker 21 (03:55:09):
Out to mad mad mister, because madd I got the
Liberation T shirt right camera.
Speaker 2 (03:55:18):
Is that the project right here? Liberation got stoyles P.
That's that ship with you on the launch stick. Yeah, man,
Me and stops Peak.
Speaker 1 (03:55:29):
Got an album, Joe Dog album is so fucking funny.
Speaker 2 (03:55:33):
That record of that she was talking about, ain't on it.
Speaker 33 (03:55:36):
No, no, no, no, it's what you win, Jada know
that's that's the Hot Tech Joint New York, New York.
Brother stott P zero point five. Ko is who I
brought on the show.
Speaker 2 (03:55:48):
Stotles P. Jada kiss. She exactly used by Marcael Polo
exactly let him recollect.
Speaker 1 (03:55:55):
Shot you.
Speaker 2 (03:56:00):
I'm saying I was.
Speaker 1 (03:56:00):
I was enlightened by the God bought him, the most
peaceful god. You know what I'm saying. He was peaceful man.
It wasn't all that bullshit.
Speaker 2 (03:56:08):
Man bought him. Was peaceful man. No, no, no, I
balk him from Flushing.
Speaker 1 (03:56:13):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:56:13):
He was black and Chinese. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:56:15):
Their last name was Chin, and he was the most
peaceful god like you know what I mean. And I
admired him and that's what made me get into the
five percent nation. And he told me, Yo, you're gonna
be prince infinite love of law. And so that's all
my benevolence in this industry. That's where that roots from.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:56:33):
Always was always piece.
Speaker 1 (03:56:34):
To the gods and earth because we on the whole
other level with it.
Speaker 2 (03:56:37):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:56:38):
No one understand ourselves and what we're supposed to do,
So let's do it.
Speaker 2 (03:56:42):
I want to add on with the with the with
the bookstore ship because.
Speaker 21 (03:56:45):
Like I'm selling the T shirts right now. But the
bookstore ship was not a good business move.
Speaker 2 (03:56:51):
Wow. I lost a lot of money with diarys all that.
Speaker 21 (03:56:56):
They almost tried to trust me in jail for that
type of ship because the money that and Bert Podell
told me he was my accounting back then.
Speaker 12 (03:57:03):
I got the poetry book that he take the poetry
book that every year first.
Speaker 2 (03:57:10):
To Rush I want. I worked with Rush with all
p M. That's that's how I was. He a decent
person to deal with. Burt was cool. Burt was cool.
He was an accountant but he's a legendary account.
Speaker 1 (03:57:22):
With burn.
Speaker 2 (03:57:23):
You know what I mean. You might have got or
somebody else signed. You might have gave other people bird
call you on your birthday.
Speaker 1 (03:57:33):
Exactly, or you get or you get a little close
into the office.
Speaker 2 (03:57:38):
But he told me to always go up to money.
Speaker 21 (03:57:42):
From the from that from that bond, he was like,
and I was like, we have to save the bookstore,
like I can't.
Speaker 2 (03:57:48):
And I lost money on that ship, but it was
worth it. Wow. You know what I'm saying. Money is
not everything for the album he was in that same building. Yeah, yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:58:04):
That's why when the rock when you see the very
being rock kiming.
Speaker 2 (03:58:08):
What's the famous line Bigge said, I want to stop
myself with Christer Burdell castas Cash Burdell know no, jay
Z said they want to jay.
Speaker 3 (03:58:20):
Z said, jay Z said they want to stop myselfs
and stop tripped to John Mcnow that's my account.
Speaker 2 (03:58:25):
What's Biggie said? I like Stash Cash casting Burberdell. I
like poetry book, he signed it.
Speaker 1 (03:58:33):
I got it. I like I like what Jay said something.
Who's gonna stop him?
Speaker 2 (03:58:38):
Now? Rudy Giuliani not Helly. We ride him.
Speaker 1 (03:58:43):
Who goes that nigga making paper boy, who goes stop him? Now,
Rudy Giuliani. Hello, we ritt him.
Speaker 6 (03:58:49):
I was like, and then he can't pay Hillary ride him.
And then he came and then Hillary ride him. I
want to get.
Speaker 2 (03:59:03):
Let's not do that actually happened.
Speaker 1 (03:59:04):
You know what I'm saying. They didn't shop them like that, boy.
You know what I'm saying, So big up, man, All
my brothers out there, all the brothers out there were
good man, were good man. All the brothers out there
getting they bread, got their.
Speaker 2 (03:59:15):
Bread, all that ship. Man. I love.
Speaker 1 (03:59:17):
I love to see that you rose up how you did, man,
because I know your beginnings, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:59:21):
So I love to see how you rose up.
Speaker 1 (03:59:23):
How you wanted them fireworks at skyrocketed and went your
way your Yeah, you know what I mean, yo, Because Cheeks,
I told you, man Cheeks, I know him from break
dancing days.
Speaker 2 (03:59:34):
So he's some boards, your call boards with linoleum.
Speaker 1 (03:59:38):
And then we was we was luxury dudes, so we
knew you know, we had crafted. So we do the
sheet of linoleum over it. She getting more spins out
of wait like that? Yeah that wait what he said, wait.
Speaker 2 (03:59:50):
What, I had my Felix suit on them. Yo.
Speaker 1 (03:59:54):
You remember Seaney said that she was like doing my
felixe and my doing my.
Speaker 3 (03:59:58):
Feeling Felix sulet my Felix suit made me spend them
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:00:01):
More exactly because that ship was that viny that.
Speaker 1 (04:00:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:00:05):
Yeah, I'm gonna search your genie to this day because
for the same reasons.
Speaker 1 (04:00:08):
Oh that serves you.
Speaker 2 (04:00:09):
No, it's not. But I got Sergio on We love it, man,
We love it man.
Speaker 1 (04:00:14):
You remember Central's on the Ave Centrals, Oh Centrals on
Jamaica Ave.
Speaker 2 (04:00:19):
It was.
Speaker 1 (04:00:20):
It was the spot where you get the Felix suits
and car the cars. It was the early af though,
like right there by Paulsons and ship.
Speaker 2 (04:00:28):
Yeah, essential, I love He's not.
Speaker 1 (04:00:36):
You the o g from.
Speaker 2 (04:00:40):
On the comments. They're gonna be chomping on the comments.
Speaker 1 (04:00:43):
And I'm gonna love that because you know it's so
you know, it's in the corner of our minds and
ship like that.
Speaker 3 (04:00:48):
Yeah, what is what is better? Beef patty or chicken patty?
I mean, you know I don't eat beef. I don't
eat beef in neither hands. Okay, so let me let
me phrase the question chicken Batty or seafood Paddy. I mean,
you know patty, but I like seafood, Okay, you do
like I do?
Speaker 2 (04:01:05):
Okay, because this is fire and Jamaica get a bean
and panada was on the Collie block, on the in
the Collie block.
Speaker 1 (04:01:16):
To make chicken sandwiches, bananas, touper that Jernk chicken sandwiches, bananas, the.
Speaker 2 (04:01:22):
Carry carry fire they.
Speaker 1 (04:01:25):
Chicken sandwich in the cocoa bread carry that you went
to and got that? Oh no no, no, no no,
I'm talking about Jamaican flavors. The badly got the new one.
Speaker 2 (04:01:33):
They got the tell.
Speaker 23 (04:01:36):
This is what that's they got the curry, they got
the curry, Jernk chicken. It's how the beef, patty, plants,
mac and cheese and coco bread.
Speaker 2 (04:01:44):
Yo. They on fire right now, you got yallow. I'm
ready to fly out. And it's mad light.
Speaker 1 (04:01:51):
It's mad like I went in there one time because
you know letting that is right around the corner from
that spot, so we know smoking beasts coming up. So
I guess God is over that little so boom they yo.
Speaker 2 (04:02:01):
They went viral. It was crazy, yo.
Speaker 1 (04:02:04):
The line being around the corner it's right there, Hollis
right there by the stop.
Speaker 2 (04:02:08):
Oh soon, I was talking about Colice and Black.
Speaker 1 (04:02:12):
It's so crazy, So it's you know, there's I'll be
always so and to see the rise of them, like
it's crazy and it's But when I went in there
one time when the line wasn't crazy, I tried one,
and it's mad light because you you think, like your
beef patty with macaroni and motherfucking box tails and cocoa bread,
and you're like, damn, that's a thousand calories, like no
(04:02:35):
cavalie counting to I know you are so. And but
then when I tried on, I was like, yo, I'm
going there and fuck that. I got supporting, you know,
because I went in there earlier before they went viral.
But then boom, I tried one and I was like, yo,
this is surprisingly light, but it's I needed to do the.
Speaker 2 (04:02:54):
Actually I needed two of these. Actually now I'm you know,
I'm My people's got me a great places, man. I
know the highs of life right now. So I'm you know,
luxury shipped.
Speaker 1 (04:03:05):
I cannot get you know what I mean, even with
good luxury ship I cannot identify.
Speaker 3 (04:03:10):
But hold on listen, I don't talking too much. No, no, no, no,
you know you're talking great, mom.
Speaker 2 (04:03:16):
But you know what I want.
Speaker 3 (04:03:17):
I would like everyone to say something about large prop
before we get about it.
Speaker 2 (04:03:21):
You start first, man, like you said earlier, he ain't
want to accept it, like like I've seen it walking.
Speaker 29 (04:03:28):
I've seen people walk and praise him, like coming to America.
Speaker 2 (04:03:32):
I said that, I feel like when you walk, I
feel like people just throw flowers and yo, it's just
you know what I mean.
Speaker 29 (04:03:40):
I call him my brother from another like oh, but
like family and oh you know what I mean, his
mom finish, let him finish.
Speaker 2 (04:03:51):
Y'all, legend y'all.
Speaker 1 (04:03:53):
Like you said what you said, I call iikon high
in the that's an upright gentleman right there too. Always
tell him to go look at the I always tell
him to go bill with the politicians. That brother, that's
an upright gentleman.
Speaker 2 (04:04:11):
In the words of my man Uncle Ralph mcdan, he
called you and Uncle Chris. He knows Uncle Rizzo. I
love aging the names dropping right now American historians.
Speaker 1 (04:04:23):
Oh yeah, you know, Uncle Ralph always hit me with
that because I mean, you know, we we be all
over the place. I see you too, y'all know I
mean Italy all over the place.
Speaker 2 (04:04:30):
You know what I mean. Just let him feel America
and I'm an end of your and I'm an end
of it.
Speaker 29 (04:04:38):
Like I said earlier, my brother, you know what I'm
saying from my mother that word brother, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:04:43):
It's a bloodline. But at the same time, he says,
grandmother from harm My grandmother from Harvard. We grewd for
life and God were.
Speaker 1 (04:04:51):
God's family, and that's what I'll be boring people to
get into God's family.
Speaker 2 (04:04:55):
We were giving you your love right now. It was like,
how you that you knew his Mike, you tell meboy
to be.
Speaker 29 (04:05:08):
When you like you said hip hop in the dictionary
and Queen's you see that man right there? Man and Queen,
if you google it, you gotta listen to James Ing.
This is the last one. He's a jazz musician, but
(04:05:29):
in hip hop that's always love my Mama. That's always
love my mama. Now I'm gonna your drunk, Paul. I
always love my He's always.
Speaker 2 (04:05:44):
Bars absolutely absolutely correct.
Speaker 1 (04:05:46):
I always love.
Speaker 2 (04:05:48):
It's on me okay, so.
Speaker 23 (04:05:52):
Genuine yeah, very Karen, solid real definite. This number O
G and just a solid human forget or take all
the music thing away, take all the records and the
spending and all the just a solid human, genuine.
Speaker 2 (04:06:12):
Very just a very solid human.
Speaker 5 (04:06:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (04:06:14):
I tell it. Definitely you added on my stuff you
already had, yeah, man, like he.
Speaker 21 (04:06:26):
Was like like like Extray was referring to recently. You know,
I did the album mad Libit mad Libers, like, Yo,
my favorite producer of all time is Large Professor. And
I'm like, okay, I got Large Professor number on my phone.
And you know, we all in this business. We all
got each other's phone numbers. But you don't always use
your bro's phone numbers because you don't want to bother them.
You don't know when people got going on your life.
(04:06:47):
But I knew he would take a call. I knew
if I said mad Libers in the lab, he would
pull up and I called Pete Rock.
Speaker 34 (04:06:52):
He didn't know Pete Rock's gonna be there, so didn't
have to say mad Livers in the lab. But but
I said that, said, yo, bro, it's me, you know,
but I did that for mad Lib. I did that
for mad mad Lib.
Speaker 21 (04:07:04):
W said that's his favorite, right, And and Jay Chappelle
pulled up and y'all seen baby pulled up and we
had a great time and he played.
Speaker 1 (04:07:11):
This man played just when we showed up for your
video shoot, which this man.
Speaker 2 (04:07:17):
Everybody was there. It was a family, but.
Speaker 1 (04:07:20):
All that ship.
Speaker 2 (04:07:21):
This man played a hundred beats.
Speaker 1 (04:07:23):
He brought the machine and they recorded him on the
slide like beat.
Speaker 2 (04:07:29):
Frederick. I got you that, baby, I got you now,
I said record.
Speaker 21 (04:07:34):
I said, press record because I need to. I need
to record all these beasts right And I said, what where?
What are you doing with these beats? He was like,
niggas don't want to rap on these beats. And I said,
hold my beer. And the next time I seen you,
how many songs I played you?
Speaker 2 (04:07:47):
He played me six joints, six joints. Orders I was playing.
I was gonna say nine.
Speaker 1 (04:07:51):
Listen. I bought the drum machine because I'm still like
Himmer and Chiswell type guy ship.
Speaker 2 (04:07:57):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:07:57):
I'm not like that. He had a bag of records
with him exactly. So this is the thing, exactly, this
is this is all memes. God so yo, So I'm
in there playing beasts, Paul me spitting yo on on
the motherfucking drue machine.
Speaker 2 (04:08:14):
They recording the ship the whole time. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (04:08:17):
But damn boom, y'all see you come in like he
always do, like he always do. Like when I was
working with Cellar Dwellers, I had like a little skeleton running. Yeah,
with Sellar Dwellers, I had, I had a skeleton running.
It was just enough for us to get loose, you
know what I mean. You know how that is.
Speaker 2 (04:08:35):
You just got a little.
Speaker 1 (04:08:36):
Something and this' but it's enough for you to get
to write some ship, you know what I mean. So
I had a skeleton running. Nigga, y'all seen you come
in and she like, yo, turn the keyboard up. They
saw playing a base, not the ship.
Speaker 2 (04:08:48):
Eureka like this. Nigga's a genius man like I, and
this is the first thing. So he did the same
type of ship in that session. He just came in.
Speaker 1 (04:08:55):
He was like, Yo, I'm golden and the mic blah
blah blah. So we on chilling and ship like that,
Mad Live everything, Mad Live beat me in the head
like Yo, we're gonna get up small and ship. Then
that Nigga went back into the midst of the fall.
He just he went back into the midst of the
fog and ship. You know, he's listening. But then what
we got out of that was, y'all seen you know
what I mean, y'all seen lady some ship. Now. Then
(04:09:17):
like a couple of days later, they got a show.
This nigga let that ship blow on stage, right there,
did ship?
Speaker 21 (04:09:24):
He just recorded the Black Show. Yeah, I'm like, this
is what I remember. And for a we actually on tour.
We actually at a New York City. We have Blue
Note next week, them brother blue.
Speaker 2 (04:09:38):
Sony hole next week.
Speaker 1 (04:09:40):
Right, how we appreciate them brothers? Yo yo acting du yo.
When that ship comes home?
Speaker 21 (04:09:49):
My god, But this man had recording the beats because
imagine me, imagine fourteen year old me what I just
told y'all last professor, And now I got the opportunity
of retort.
Speaker 2 (04:10:00):
Yeah, I had I had.
Speaker 29 (04:10:01):
To what.
Speaker 3 (04:10:10):
Lot because you know it's the whole time. I understand
that you're very can't give us some more, bro, please
please give.
Speaker 2 (04:10:20):
Some of us, But no, no, no no, But you're
a very humble guy. That is a spate, but it's
you're a very humble guy. But what I want you
to know is.
Speaker 3 (04:10:33):
You're warranted to accept these flowers. You're warranted and I
could get I could get it.
Speaker 2 (04:10:39):
I understand, Like you know, I might be.
Speaker 1 (04:10:41):
On that Italian ship. You know my real name is
paul Y'll be put enough about me, feels enough about me,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:10:47):
Like, let's get into that. You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (04:10:49):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (04:10:49):
You know what, man, that's what It's not enough about you,
right all of all about it's all about you. My
family appreciates you right now. My family will appreciate you. Man,
she appreciate you every day.
Speaker 1 (04:11:04):
Man, So I'm so pretty.
Speaker 15 (04:11:08):
Ship Josh who Miami exactly like, yeah, you can't hurt
you all here make your.
Speaker 2 (04:11:16):
What you understand said? They show you how or you
are yo. Now what she's done about what you want?
Speaker 15 (04:11:22):
Get done out on turkey burgers a right, Let me finished,
Let me be finished, because you are like you are alright,
you're doing four singing?
Speaker 2 (04:11:32):
Yeah, all sister, and we all do so at.
Speaker 15 (04:11:38):
Here bout in the world, in the world like any
world and like light because absolutely and you know what's crazy,
but we like we go crazy about this.
Speaker 2 (04:11:53):
How humble you are, she's not because you fine, you
get drunk.
Speaker 1 (04:11:56):
You're not like too much.
Speaker 24 (04:11:59):
You don't like too like yeah, because you know how
last one they know you gotta show it. I think
it was like, yeah, good, you don't want to that's
ship you know it. I know it like oh like no, no, no,
I know exacts it's doing so I do that.
Speaker 1 (04:12:18):
I do that, you know what?
Speaker 2 (04:12:19):
He absolutely does that. I don't want to set up laws.
I don't mind. I think they're good. Day we because
it's got you for we still have Yes, I think
I want to know, but no, I don't love the record.
I was just no, don't they know they know? Stop talking? Second?
Speaker 5 (04:12:43):
Yes, I don't you know it's.
Speaker 2 (04:12:44):
Having a spect second listen true, last professor, it's about
you today and today we sat you. I love you.
We don't want to craze. We gotta gonna get over.
How many times to try to I'm not what you what?
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Dogs bill pull metal child and.
Speaker 1 (04:13:08):
Hell's passive time to shop?
Speaker 2 (04:13:17):
Yes, yes, sho, I don't know you? Yes what that's
who he shouted out to that we should.
Speaker 1 (04:13:27):
Say you like yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (04:13:39):
Up front? You know do you know guy right here?
Man tell me who this is? Move right there? Mans?
Speaker 5 (04:13:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:13:50):
No wife because he used to play roll and I
know it's a fact. I was like yo when he's
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