Episode 440 w/ Xzibit

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Drink up, motherfuck motheruck. But it gonna be your boy
in O R e. What up is d J e
f N? It minna take me crazy world? Yeah, all
makes up. And let me just tell you something.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
We saw this this show, this podcast. We said, we
want to interview people that are legend people that have
paved the way. This man has arguably have one of
the best hip hop videos of all times. I went
and I researched it myself. I thought that Buster and
Missy changed the video scene and I really realized that
it wasn't there. It was this motherfucker. And not only that,

(01:17):
There's something about the West that's right now happening. I
mean the ogs, you know what I mean? The young gins,
the middle people. This guy's a lyricists and lyricists. Man.
I've been listening to his music for the for all
these days, and one thing I know. Two things were certain.
He is an alcoholic. On every one of his songs,
he's talking about a fifth of something. This motherbugg is

(01:40):
a real deal. He's an icon.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
He's a legend, tycoon. Our friends the.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Learn on the show, yet alumni of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Oh when it.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Comes to lyricis that's what's great about this man. This
man can make a record that go to the globals,
and he can make an underground underground people who respect them.
He is the motherfucking one of the illess lyricists, one
of the illest people, one of the illis legends in
this game. I'm proud to have them on this goddamn show.

(02:14):
You know that's you know what's so good about you?
Like I We got to recently, hopefully this the interview
is out by then, but we got to recently interview
Dre and Snoop and was before I recognized you at
the at the front row. One thing that I noticed
is you have a trait that I have is no

(02:34):
matter how much that we love this game. It doesn't
take away from you being fans of other people.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
And I was seeing you.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
You had your phone up, I'm looking at it.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I'm like, yo, that's exactly how.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Just because like like Buster or NADS or somebody's my friend,
take away from me being a fan.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
And I love seeing you absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Listen, before I was an artist, I was a fan.
I was I was a consumer. I would go and
buy CDs, I will go listen to it. I would
I would be excited about the release date.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I'd be excited about my favorite artists coming out. And
so now fast forward to be able to consider these
people my peers, you know what I'm saying, To be
able to you know, like really rock with them and
they rock with me, and you know, it's just a
surreal feeling. So yeah, you know that you guys kill
that interview. You know I killed it. And so when
when I when I was there, man and just seeing

(03:26):
them two together, you know, you.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Know what the funny part about that is, ah, it
reminded me of me a compone a little bit, because like,
no matter how much me a compone will be beefing
or whatever, whatever. As soon as we get together in
the same room, we just started laughing. Like when Snoop said,
Snoop said, I left the studio because Drake came to
the studio.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I was like, you know, you're the only person.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Say that, like I left the studio because Drake.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well, I understand that, because I don't understand that. Okay, okay, okay.
So it's Dre really like that studio.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
He's well, let me let me put this.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Let me put this to a correct way.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Dre is a master at his craft, and he expects
a certain level of perfection if you understand what that means.
And and and he we call him the guillotine because yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Because.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
We call him the guillotine because there's levels to it.

Speaker 2 (04:26):

Speaker 3 (04:27):
When he like you, when he likes you and he's
and he's working with you, then he'll just be like,
I don't believe you.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
You know what I'm saying, you can do.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Better than that.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Like he like he'll say stuff like that, which is
kind of like a bunch of the gut anyway. But
I've seen him like turn the music down, and I've
seen him get up and leave the room. When somebody
is like not performing the way he wants to write,
you know what I'm saying. So so I understand, like
he says he don't like everything. He know, he don't
like nothing, you know what I'm saying, Like he likes
absolutely nothing. So so understood what Snoop said that. Yo,

(04:59):
I just want to leave the room, you know what
I'm saying, because I didn't want him to come in
there and say yes and that he wasn't instead of
going there and just tell they start being a guillotine
and start telling niggas here.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Like he don't like none of it. But it's dope? Though?

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Is that? Is that because you know the one thing
that I listen me being a vocalist, Nothing that comes
out of that camp you guys are always sound so clear.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
But is it a sacrifice for that, like because because.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
You've got to do it fifteen million times? No?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
I mean, once you understand what he's looking for, did
you kind of go there already?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Everybody comes in, Everybody kind of designs their style and
their lyrics and all that stuff before they get in
that room and they tune in to the way they
like it, but when you get it in front of
doctor Dre, he tunes it up in different frequencies. Yeah,
he's looking for something else. He don't care about the

(06:00):
style and all that, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
that's part of it, but it's certain.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's certain frequencies that you got to hit.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
And so that's talking about with music, talking about with vocals,
talk about with lyric content. All of that stuff has
to be at an optimum level. So so once you
understand that about him, then you start just understanding like
how to get there. And sometimes you know, he'll, you know,
he'll he'll go try something different because you don't want
to start sounding the same all the time, you know
what I'm saying. But that's how it is, you know.

(06:27):
But when you rise to that level and you hit
those marks, what comes out is a legacy, you know
what I'm saying, Like the longevity of the records, the
staying power of old records.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
There's something about it.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
But the real question is how many records do you
have with Dre that are in the stash that probably
we never will have no idea because how much of
a perfectioncy is.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I have no idea. You got albums, Yeah, he's got what.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Drake got a vault.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
They got a vault and it's basically like like folder
after folder after folder after folder of songs that like
we everybody in this room would go absolutely ape shit
over these songs. But Dre is like, you know what
I'm saying, it's cool. Like motherfuckers, you would never think
he worked with he's working with him, and he's like,

(07:11):
he's like, why why don't.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
You put these?

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Like you you got like seventeen albums, twenty albums. He's like,
ass cool, you know what I'm saying. And he don't
do shit for money, you know what I'm saying, Like,
he's got to feel it. He gotta believe it. He
gotta feel it, you know what I'm saying. And that's
when those records come out, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
So let's take it to the beginning. Yeah, ah, was
you started on Loud at first?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Was it Loud? It was Loud Records was the first
label I was on.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Okay, so how.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Did how did how did.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
You and Steve Rifkin hook up? Steve Rifkins signed The Alcoholics.
Alcoholics were already on the label. They was the East
Coast and the West Coast office. The Alcoholics were signed
out of the West Coast office. And so I was
rolling rolling around with King T the Alcoholics and kind
of like just getting my feet wet as an artist

(08:08):
at that time.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
And so.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Steve would I would always be in the office and
I'll be working on.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
And and but you're a guest of the Alcoholics.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
They're already signed.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
They already signed at the time make Room, uh and
King T Trifling album was out, and so that's who
that's who I was running with. And so Steve Rifkin
came to Prince's Club glam Slam.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Prince had a glam slam everywhere.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Man, Yeah, Prince had like he just said it just
came to Prince, just telling the Prince Club.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. But Prince Dill, No, he was
not there, ain't hanging out with us. But it was
dope because uh uh. He came in, was like we
was about to go on stage and He's like, hey,
I want to sign you because I had never made
a demo. And he was telling yeah, yeah, Steve had
long hair at this time, you know what I'm saying,

(09:03):
yeah yeah, And he was like, you know, I want
to sign you come to the office tomorrow, and that
at the time, they don't have wh Tang yet two,
no Big Punk, no Big Punk.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
Three six I think was already yet yet not yet.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Coast was like sellers selling dwellers was over.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
There, and they were doing a lot of promotion too.
It was like a promo like a.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Streets the promotion.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
S r C was just getting launching at that time
as well, damn. So that's how we that's how we
linked up. So okay, Now.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
That's something that me and E f N always argue about, right,
the independent label thing, right, but not even that before
we go to that was it hard for you navigating
being a West Coast artist on a predominantly East Coast.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Motherfucking it was hard? Okay, man, the East those niggas hated.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
Us, just not feeling us.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Like, let's just call it how we walked.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Wait, so you're saying they wasn't feeling West Coast or
they wasn't feeling anything that wasn't from the East.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Coast, that wasn't from anything from California.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Niggas. It was like you know what I'm saying, And
it was just in the eating.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
But listen. To be fair, the artist was fucking with us.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
It was the staff, it was it was the people.
That's my opinion is, that's my thing is I always
felt the West Coast.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
We would go down from us, we would go to
New York and we would go out. Look.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I remember taking the train to master Ace House, you
know what I'm saying the first time, and the first
time I fucking got to New York. He was like,
you're gonna take the train by yourself. Yeah, get there,
you know what I'm saying. So so I remember drinking forties,
you know, on the stool, chilling outside, going to.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Niggas blocks, you know what I'm saying. That was love.
And when we're getting them buildings, it.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Was like they were it was like it became like
a it became like a friendly competition.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Like everything from the East.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Coast offer was to get all the big budgets and
all that stuff, and they would give.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Us the scraps and leftovers.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
So we's making miracles out of absolutely nothing.

Speaker 2 (11:08):

Speaker 3 (11:09):
That we were just really banging on the fact that
like people were feeling the music, you know what I'm saying.
Like when I first came out. I didn't sound like
a traditional West Coast artists. No, you were very lirical, right,
People thought I.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Was from New York. Yes, I did you know.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
La underground scene that crew everybody, you guys, And for.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Lack of a better term, at that time, we didn't
really understand that there's lyricists just as much as on
the East Coast as even more because you know, the
forefront people were in w A and other than ice
Cube and mc wren. It wasn't really like you know,
the lyrical thing.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
But but I think, I think what was happening was
we had to find our own identity.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
There was it was after the right after the death.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Road gfunk Era, and we had to find our own identity,
meaning that my graduating class, like it was Crooked Eye,
it was me Ras, it was Severee rest in peace man,
you know what I mean? And and uh you know
it was it was like a club called Unity where
all of us would go and like you know, that's
what we first saw.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Wu Tang performed like Bigger B was a.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
And R my A and R in loud Wow, and
he did a club called Unity, and so he had
the plug for every artist in all the offices. He
would bring him out there to do shows. So then
it became a theme like okay, so I want to
open up at unity and that's where all of all
of us used to like cut our teeth and get
in front of the crowds and be able to build our audience.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
But that's where it started.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
So so let me ask him bouncing around a little bit.
It's been known, right, it's been known that lyricists people
that's really really really lyricists, right, they get the short
end of the stick. But then at some point it
was like doctor Dre started messing with lyricists like like
you you know, you know, so on and so forth
and Marshall you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, other

(13:03):
than that, because I believe they used to call a backpack,
right yeah, blackrap back background. Right, So when did when
did a transition from going Because we had re search
on here the other day, right, and I'm bugging off
of EMC search because he's like, he's like, yeah, we
didn't want to take commercials, and I was like, yeah,
generation fucked up, yeah, like why do you want extra money?

(13:25):
But back then it was frowned upon. That was considered
selling out. So when was it that backpack hip hop
started to merge with commercial hip hop or not commercial
hip hop, global hip hop to forty hip hop, and
then they made this marriage like you know.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Like you like you, you want.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Very much benefited off of you know, your affiliation with that.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
But when did that happen? Like I think I think once.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Once corporate America started putting millions and millions of dollars
into hip hop, right, it wasn't frowned upon anymore because
I think when you look at like mc hammer, nobody
gives in mc hammer the flowers he deserves. And if
you think about it, he got a lot of shit
for doing exactly what everybody's doing next.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Right now, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
And so he was ahead of his time in that
aspect as a businessman. But once corporate America started putting
a lot of money in into it, I think that
became the focus. It used to be about Okay, who
got style, who got craft, who got skilled? Then it
was like okay, who got millions? Who got cars? Who
got houses? You know what I'm saying. And then once

(14:31):
that started kind of merging and becoming you know, like
murking that you know, dirty in the waters a little bit.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I think people started.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
You know, I don't have to I don't have to
have skill as long as I'm successful and I have money.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Everybody was a little I don't have to, I don't have.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
To begin everybody.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
The backpack thing didn't come to like the super underground,
the Ruckus era where they started to really label people Backpa.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
You said everybody was a lyricist. I don't want to
say everybody was a liberal. That was the aspiration everyone
about this.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Everybody know the deals were made.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
Whoever was the illis lyricist Jay Big come on, big
l everybody.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Got you gotta look at easy. Easy wasn't considered the
lyricists busy.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
No, not everybody. But I'm saying that.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
Most artists, mostly MC's, wanted to be lyricists caras ones
like it was from the beginning the backpack thing. To
attach that to lyricism started with the Ruckus Underground, that underground.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
I'm gonna tell you some real ship. This is real
ship for me, this is my own ship. When my
first album, Worried Port is lyric cool, very cool, all.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
That kid no bitness came to my conference man, no.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
Women got you here today. I'm not sure about that, sir.
Like you know, look, tell you something.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I used to do shows in Germany and all the
women will come and their sneakers will be the worst
sneakers I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Like they was just stopping, like somebody just stop. Sneakers
can't go on five? Like that's hip, that's underground hip.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
When I tell you what, No, I'll tell you what, man,
when you put up that, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
And that's what I wi conversion, I left the hook, yeah, coniversary.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, but in my mind I was going.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Them records came on like like like motherfucking planets.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
But let's let's tell these people because you know, we
interview comedians sometimes comedians talking about the chitpling circuit, like
when you're coming up. A lot of people don't know
understanding about that underground circuit when you got to go
perform at s Obs for the rest for all the
clubs all over the world, and these guys are.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
They are there at eight o'clock.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah yeah, And I never I never. I was never
a radio guy. It was never the top forty guy.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I was never.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
I was never the okay, he's he's you know bill
Board this.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
And all that.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
My bread and butter came from doing the underground circuit
and whooping ass on the shows. You know what I'm
saying that like live performances, like like one of the
big things in our campus. You you you must sound
on stage like you do on the record. If you
up there yelling and screaming and it just sounds like
you're just yelling over the track or or something I

(17:11):
hate now is like when when I see artists perform.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
With the vocals in your face.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, yeah, it can't, it can't. Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Just something about it's just something about it.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
No, it's not even cheating it.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
It's lazy.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's lazy. It's lazy.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
And you could tell that they don't take pride in
that work, you know what I'm saying, Like, you're not rehearsing,
you're not giving a you don't even care about this.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Is that the reason why we had TV tracks back
in the days, remember the TV track, because those just
had to add that list cook and the hook, especially
if it's a singing hook.

Speaker 2 (17:47):

Speaker 3 (17:48):
You want to be able to give that experience to
the audience, but them vocals that you you are on stage,
so you have to produce those vocals, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's the way it is.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Let me ask you, what's the best toy you ever
been on?

Speaker 6 (17:59):
Up?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
And I knew he was going to say that.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I bet on myself say that.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
And listen that that that necessarily wasn't the biggest or
longest tour I've been on, you know what I'm saying,
It was all together? Would it represented at the time
to the culture and what it felt like, you know,
being on the stage with with those guys. Like I
said before, I had been like truly a fan of
you know what I'm saying, and truly like inspired by

(18:29):
to be able to get up on that stage, to
be considered one of them, and then be able to
you know, go through that whole process and then be
able to come out with an album that I, you know,
in a million years, would have never thought I could
come out with, you know, and just have that experience.
Upper Smoke was like the last It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
I was watching from the TV, like, man, I like
you went everywhere too? No, no, no, it was just
the United States. Oh wow, Yeah, I don't think Dre
has ever done like a European tour. Wow. Yeah, yeah,
imagine that. That'd be crazy. So I'm gonna switch it
up a little bit, okay, because I realized that you

(19:09):
got one of the best hip hop shoutouts in the world.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
But it's a little bit bad. I'm gonna tell you why.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Okay, zip it is in that club rolling all that
weed up.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Now everybody sees you. Gotta be rolling the weed absolutely,
And that's the one thing about this job, Like.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Whenever I come out, someone e would see me and
be like shot and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yes, and they don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
People always come up to you and be like, let's
smoke one.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Sometimes literally I'm smoking sody.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
So so, but did that ever burden you?

Speaker 3 (19:50):
No, man, I thought it was dope, man, because when
fifty shadowed me out, I didn't know it until, you know,
like a couple of days before it actually came out.
Oh so you heard it at the same time people
heard that. Okay, wow, yeah, so that was dope man.
And then you know, to be name checked on one
of the biggest songs ever, it's not a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
That changed.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
That changed, that changed the trajectory of of the landscape
of that whole generation, because it's the first time you
had an East Coast guy riming on the straight West
Coast B. There's no way in the club can be
described as an East Coast B or South beat. You know,
that's the West Club. But the Firm was first. The
Firm was first. That's why I made Drake.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
I made Drake take his.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
His was first. Man, let me take you something. When
Roster sent me the clip, but I don't know what
time you send the clip.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
You send the clip to the group chat right and
for the sleep. So I was so happy.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
I woke up at four o'clock in the morning and
I sent it to that I said, I finally got
Dre to say that he shouldn't have said the Firm flop.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
In my mind because.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
He just said I he said yes, but my mind
he said it.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Like yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
That that album, that Firm, and that's the first time
You're right, I got to see East Coasters and West
And you gotta remember that that album came out so
dope because God bless, it was after Big and Tupac. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, So everybody the smoke was
in the air and everybody was trying to put it
back together.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
So that album single handedly didn't Dre do the one
joint that caress and now it was the East West
Coast one right right when he launched Aftermath, he did
a joint.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
It might have been on that Aftermath Presents album. Yeah, yeah,
not sure, I think so.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
I think that's when when you start to see him
like dabbling something having like Kris one and I forget.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Who a couple other who be real?

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Be real? And what you drink?

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I'm gonna drink of sprits. I take some forty two man, Okay,
forty two.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Okay, goddamn god, damn forty two. Look, let me tell
you something. Let me tell you something. We've been doing
this for years. So my favorite thing to do is
to check the artists drink order. Whenever I see somebody
order two different things, you ordered gin and.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Then think it is rat iron.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Good. Yes, So lets let's talk about the alcoholics and
you guys relationship in the beginning. So, how did y'all
link up? I linked up with school. No, there was
a group.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
There was a there was a group of producers called
three sixty James Broadway was the producer for King T,
and so I was in the same area. I got
introduced to Broadway through a guy named Top. Top was
actually going to act as a manager. He was managing
Volume ten a couple other guys, and he was like, Yo,
I want to I want to work with you. So

(22:40):
he took me to Broadway. Broadway introduced me to King T.
King T introduced me to the Alcoholics.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Wow, and then and then how did y'all develop the relationship?
I was just those were the first cast that I
was off the street named the Alcoholics at the time. Yes, okay,
well given back then.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Back then King T created the group and so and
so that's when that's when I got introduced to them.
And they was the first artist that I knew that
had real record deals, you know, because I was I
was just off the block at that time. And so
when I started hanging out with them, I was like
learning how to write sixteens learning how to write, you know.

(23:16):
I was just in the lab kind of like honing
my craft with them. And so from there, I you know,
I would just go everywhere with him, and I would
do I would do ship like I would go to
the swap meet and make my own alcoholic T shirts
if we had a show, and.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Then I would make I do I make gas mask bongs?
I used to.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I used to get a bong and before they started
making them, I would get like like shipping attached the
hose to the mad gas mask and then take hits
on stage and fucking it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, yeah, we were doing.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
A lot that King T was already yeah you know
OG at that time, so it must have been like
crazy to roll with him.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
So it was like everybody has a OG and King
T is ours.

Speaker 1 (23:58):

Speaker 3 (23:58):
And I still kicking with King T very closely to
this day. It's one of my closest friends, and uh,
you know, I got a lot of respect for what
he's done for me and and he gave me my
first shot.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
King T dead right, let me ask you, because listening.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
This morning, broking out listening to your music, and all
of us like secretly tried to quit walk on the low, right,
It's just like it just jumps out of you, right,
Like it's just like.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
You just can't help it.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Right, But I feel like the white people that says nigga,
like when no one's around like I feel like God.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Because I know I'm not doing it right.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Like I know I'm not doing it, so I look
around and like it can look a lot like river
dancing if you don't do it. I know, sure, I know. Yeah,
I believe. I asked Drea Snoop this and I believe
they answer it was it was the boogie dance. But
what is it about that West Coast sound that just
makes you just want to smack you for the fucking

(24:56):
sneakers and.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Just get low. It's bi talk.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Sorry, I love it, I just can't do it. I
just can't do it. It's strictly built out of tradition.

Speaker 9 (25:05):
Man.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
It's like these things that come from our neighborhoods, your neighborhoods.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I mean, like these are things.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
That are done from like a real genuine roots based
culture based, you know, initiative. And so you know, crip
walking is definitely and and and blood walking is definitely
from fucking neighborhood. Like that ship that is you know
that that wouldn't always It's not a dance. It's like
if you don't know who I am, this is what's happening.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
You know what I'm saying like they are actually spelling something, right, Yeah,
a lot of people, do you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, I mean it evolves, you know, from from the
time like when you see what dove C was doing
on a smoke toward video, which is infamous, and then
it's it's just changed as you know, as as as
as the kids grow up and they put their own
little twist on it. So now there's a whole lot
of you know, feet going.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Out in side ways and you know what I'm saying,
the elbowl is moving a little differently, right, but I
mean it's still you know, you know what you're looking
at when you see it, right, Okay, So I gotta
ask you, Okay, I'm going actually to be as freely
as you can. When it's Drake and Kendrick thing first started.

(26:20):
Drake is the biggest artist in the world. I believe
Kendrick took a shot first, right, I believe for mother
fuck the Big Three. I mean, this is not this
is mag me. But Kendrick has been known for this.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
No, but they've been going back and forth.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
No. No, but remember Kendrick went at the whole New York
At one point he was like He's like, I'm Frank White,
I'm gonna kick in New York right, Like course this
whole controversy, but this time, this is something kind of
really really, really really different. Right. Did you understand what
Kendrick was doing from the beginning or this was something
that after you saw it, he was like, I mean, look, look, dude,

(26:55):
you have to look.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
You have to take a step back first, because you
don't know what's happening behind the scenes. Always something happening
behind the scenes that we're not aware of. It's spilled
over into something else. But here's what I will say
about that. I think Kendrick Lamar is a very special individual.
I think he is a deep thinker. I think he

(27:16):
is a big part of what is unifying and energizing
the West Coast right now. And I think I think
he was severely underestimated. And uh, when you look at
the parable of David and Goliath and you see, you
know somebody who's you know, very you know, dismissive or

(27:40):
very arrogant or very you know, feeling like you know,
because Drake wasn't talking the way he's talking now at
the beginning. But when Kendrick wasn't saying nothing. You know
what I'm saying. It was just like, you know, it
was very funny. It was very poking holes. And he
did the Tupac thing, Yeah, doing the doing the two
poc Ai thing. You know, you talk about feeling disrespect,

(28:01):
I mean the whole coast. We love Tupac. You know
what I'm saying. The world loved Tupac. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
You know what, I've never asked that question. So when
Drake sampled, I want to say sampled a right. So
Kendrick's line was, you think the coast is gonna let
you disrespect poligga? I think that Oakland show might be
your last stop. You're telling me that that's how people
really took it.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Like he took.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
He took some liberties with that. And look, dude, I
got no dog in this fight. But but but but yeah,
but but the West Coast is where I'm at, and
that's what's up, you know what I'm saying. And so
Kendrick is is definitely ruling the pack, you know what
I'm saying. And he's he's and he's he's setting the
tone and so you know, yeah, I just think that

(28:48):
what we're seeing now is yeah, yeah, what we're seeing
now is the repercussions of of of stepping on somebody
that you shouldn't have stepped to. You know what I'm saying,
Like they're not even in the same class. You know,
in my opinion, Drake should have just put out a
fucking massive hit for the women and went on about

(29:09):
his business.

Speaker 1 (29:10):

Speaker 3 (29:11):
You're saying like, yeah, yeah, after after the first shot,
you know what I'm saying. But Pride is a motherfucker.
He goos a motherfucker. He kept going.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
At one point, I was coming downstairs smoke weed and
it was like another Drake records drop and I was like, okay,
And I felt at that point, at that time, I
felt Drake was being the bully. This before Kendrick had
dropped anything. I think a lot of people forget that time.
Remember when he just kept dropping him and they both
did that. Christler three hundred looked like a bigley until Yeah,

(29:44):
you know what I'm saying, you see that motherfucker. I'm
not gonna lie as I knew Kendrick was ill. I
knew Kendrick was the man. I knew Kendrick can hold
it down. I didn't know Kendrick. I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
You didn't know Kendrick was a scientist.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, he's playing chess.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
No, no, because let me because I'm on hip hop'
not downgrade myself like that. I just didn't know to
the extent that he went. Because I'm gonna be honest,
this new album, what is it in NHL? I said,
n H nasrand National.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I first heard.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
It and then I was like, damn, man, it doesn't
seem like he's having fun, right And then oh, no,
this is absolutely fun. It was an l A guy there.
It was the l A guy there, big up d
on and the all was like, nah, man, we just
have fun a little bit different from y'all. And I
was like, all right, cool, and I will listen to

(30:44):
it the next day. And I understood, like it really
it literally took somebody from Why didn't I think he
was having because I just felt like he was dealing
with survivors with more so I didn't feel like he
was like enjoying the moment. I had to hear it again.
I had to hear it again. When I heard it
the second and the third time, then I was like, oh, Okay,
he's enjoying the moment, but he's enjoying it in his way.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah, I mean, you look, I don't hang around with Kendrick.
I'm not even gonna claim to be in his circle.
Circle is tight, I know, I know, you know, my
my uh my, my family works with him. You know
what I'm saying, Like, it's really dope to see him
have his own lane, you know what I'm saying, and
do it the way he's doing it like, but still

(31:22):
have the full backing of everybody that came to form
you know what I'm saying, that's fucking dope. And and
and he don't he's inclusive. When you see some cast
stick that's young and they come up and they just
dismiss everybody, they gonna fucking they fuck the fuck that nigga,
fuck him, fuck everybody's me and all this ship. And
I think that's what we saw, you know what I'm saying,

(31:44):
Like like Drake, Drake was you know, damn near number
one for decade if more, you.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
And and he felt untouchable.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
So it's it's very it's very it's very dope to
see you know, Kendrick come to his own and I'm pretty.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Sure he was pushed in a lot of ways from
that situation. But to see what he turned into and
to see what he represents and what he means to
us on the cars, it's fantastic. It's do you know
what the crazy shit is? I'm bouncing around, but I'm
gonna make it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
But one about favorite shows on TV is a show
called The Sha. Right. The only thing that's missing in
the Sha is on My Homegirl Lena with I always
tell her, I'm like, yo, man, you got the only
city of Chicago without load of Latinos? Right, Like, yo, bro,
I'm fucking Latino. Like, I can't just look at Chicago
without again. One thing about me being on the West Coast,

(32:40):
and obviously I've been going to the West Coast since
nineteenninety seven. When I would go to Snoop shows on
your show, I wouldn't see you your show's difference, Okay,
I mean to me, just put dazz and corrupt. I
wouldn't see a lot of Latinos. You know what changed
it was Nipsey Hustle. Nippy Hustle. I went to a
Nipty hustle. I snuck into another. But I think I
told you this, Oh, I said it on the show.
I went to a Nipsey Hustle concerts. I didn't hit him.

(33:01):
I wanted to pay to get in. I wanted to look.
I wanted to see how this West Coast shit feel,
like you know what I'm saying without being Norri right,
And it was the first time I seemed but I
didn't know what I was seeing. Snoop explained to me
that you saw that again on stage. I didn't know
that Kendrick from all these gangs together, Like, how remarkable.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Is that that? That was?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
That was the tipping point right when he did that
Pop our concert and Dre went out there and all
them neighborhoods came out there see stage, because we.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Want you to explain this in it's entity in depth.
Us on the East Coast we looking thinking these are
artists that although they might be artists, but we didn't
we're not understanding that they represent different gags. There was
some artists up there.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
There were some artists, but there was some very important
people to the street up there. I usually don't really
be standing next to each other, right, And I think
it just really it really set the tone for what's
what's coming next. So everybody saw that shit and was like, oh, oh,
we ain't had this before in the West.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
We ain't had this before, maybe slightly during the peace treaty.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
No, it be pieces.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
It be pieces of the West coming together, still excluding
some of these parts because the past things that happened,
or just like that's just how things have been. But
when that happened, a lot of shit got pushed to
the side and was like, Okay, you know what, let's
unite around this w Let's unite around this genius that

(34:38):
is this doing this phenomenal work. And you know, look,
we can beef internally, but to the rest of the world, unified, like,
we haven't had that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
I loved that about y'all. Iced T brought that up
to me, I think said, listen, he said, you know,
us West Coast people got beef because you in the industry. Motherfucker. Yeah,
He's like, do you think about it? Our beasts be between us.
And that was so mad that I see because he
was right.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
It's like word like if they beefing, if you want
an industry, the average person, you say, the average.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Person, like like like that California love for for for
black Bird, that ships.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
It's just like it's just like you when your parents
used to say, don't act crazy in front of company.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
You know what I'm saying, That's just what it is.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
It's like sometimes that's just spill over into the street.
But for the most for the most part, like especially now,
Cat's got a different agenda. We want to see the
w go, you know what I'm saying. And and and
that's why you see Q coming. That's why you see
you know Snoop Dogg coming, That's why I'm coming, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
And what's also do I.

Speaker 6 (35:45):
Think that I don't think people are mentioning as much
about Kendrick his movement that he brought North Cali into
the fold. It's not just LA, it's all of California.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
What are you saying about it?

Speaker 6 (35:54):
Like the Bay Area and those artists just considered the
North area the South.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Okay together geographics. Yeah I know that, kid, Yeah, you know,
but but you're absolutely correct.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
Even with the sound and the album, there's a song
it's like, to me, does the Sonic that's the Bay
Area right there?

Speaker 2 (36:18):
But that's all West Coast.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
You just when people say West Coast, they just think.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Of l A.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
You think of Southton, you know what I'm saying, Long
Beach like, like that's not just the coast goes all
the way up to Canada. So when you when you
look at, when you look to when you look at
you know the bay and what they represent like and
then it's always been separate there too, Southern California Northern California,
two different planets. But now it's just thing like the

(36:44):
W everybody, the W everybody and and and it feels
dope to be able to see you know, e forty
do the opening for the pop up, and it's like
the inclusion of it. It just feels so we just
we're feeling.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Strong right now because I felt like, you know, I'm
sorry bounce over the place, but like like New York,
we've always had Long Island, and we've always had Yonkers
and Jersey, which technically isn't New York, but it is
New York, you understand I'm saying. So I felt like
that moment for y'all, like it was like every part
of the coast and not only that, I mean I

(37:19):
was going to say up the state, but not only that. Yeah,
run the coast together. That's what's crazy. You know what's
crazy about West Coast culture. If you actually pay attention,
you guys don't got to promote to the South or
the East at all. You guys could just promote in
the West and you'll be good. Well, here's the thing, Sacramento.
The number Remember when according to the numbers, remember when

(37:39):
hip hop was super regional. When you look at the
no limit, I'm going to say, you look at and
you look at and you.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Look at uh and you look at a cash money
and then and then even here, you know, in in
in Miami, you you look at the sound that was
coming out of here, that that graduated from DJ Magic
Mike and into you know, Luke in two Live Crew,
in the Poison Clan, into all these other things that
was coming. They had their own sound, so it was regional.

(38:06):
So once the West Coast you know, had their sound
and it didn't we didn't feel like we needed to
copy anyone. Right, So when the South rose, and you know,
after after the outcast said the South got something to say,
and then absolutely they came and dominated everything in the
industry and they had their sound.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
We been fucked up ever since he said that.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
I think it's dope because it gave us time to
kind of like see where things needed to go. And
I just liked the fact that we're not changing our sound,
we just doing it at a at a different pace,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
So let me let me, let me, let me ask you.
There was three different eras of West Coast Rain right
that literally had me scared. One literally one when I
heard it straight out of Compton. I always say this.
I always though it straight out of content.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
It was a jail. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
I was, yeah, because the way they were describe it
straight up the comment, I'm like, I don't want a
good k lock up there, right, I was, obviously.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah. So but then it was that death row everywhere,
all of y'all just you know, that upper smoke toil.
And now it seems like it's the resurgence. But the
good thing about it is it's not just the young generation,
it's not just the middle generation.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
It's for Dre Snoop for you to be.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Dropping like like how how how good does that feel?
Because and you know what's good? We know what's dope
about you, Dre and Snoop is y'all could actually k
this to.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Your own audience.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, y'all don't got to sell to these new motherfuckers
at all.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
But how good is this feeled?

Speaker 3 (39:49):
It feels really good to be able to be dropping
music in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Five and not compromise.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
That's right, you know what I'm saying, Like, I see
what's going going on out there. I see what's I see.
I try to, you know, keep my ear to the street.
A lot of that ship I can't listen to, you
know what I'm saying, simply because you know, I'm a
I'm a I'm a professional.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
You know.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
I want to hear people be professional. I don't like
I don't like hearing ship out of the pocket. I
don't like hearing rappers not on beat. I don't I
don't like hearing lazy ass nothing ass rhymes.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
I want to know something, you know what I'm saying.
I want to hear something. Listen.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
I've seen her, you know what I'm saying, and look
from where she started to where she is now, it's
pretty fucking amazing. But you know what I'm saying, but
but I'm not gonna take nothing away from It's just
it's just not my style, you know what I'm saying. Like,
like you know, I see everybody you know doing the
pussy hole brown and all whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, yeah, where was react? Where the was at?

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take that
from her book, But I just prefer something else, you
know what I'm saying. And so, like I said, it
goes back to what we're doing now.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
When we go in remember where we was that.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah, when we go we're talking about how does it
feel now to be dropping music and and and man
it feels great. But I didn't have to compromise. I
can come out with what I want to do. I
don't need to compete with what's out now right now.
I just need to do what I do really well,
you know what I'm saying. And I think that once
you have that that that fixture. I think I heard
Rick Rubins say that if you start making music for

(41:28):
people other than yourself, then you already lost or something
to that effect.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Well, think about it.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
I'm sure your first album, just like as Mine's, you
made it for your block, did you made Okay.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
I did my first album not knowing, you know, knowing
I wanted to be different, but not necessarily knowing how
to get there or convey that. You know what I'm
saying on this record, on the key Maker record, out
of all of them, make.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
On the on the Keen Maker record.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
I feel like I tell everybody after we listen to it,
that I found my voice, you know, not the inflection
of it, not the use of it, or the tone
or the pitch. I found out what I'm supposed to
be saying and how I'm supposed to be saying it,
you know, because I'm speaking from a place of power,
I'm speaking from a place of endurance. I'm speaking from
a place of you know, just longevity, maturity and the

(42:23):
man maturity and growth.

Speaker 2 (42:25):

Speaker 3 (42:25):
I don't want to talk about the same shit I
was talking about on my first three albums, you know
what I'm saying, Like there's a lot of shit that's
happened between that then and now, and so like that's
what I'm speaking on and I'm speaking to it in
a place that makes me feel good, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
But really quick listening to the album.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
What I will tell you is, damn hear hearing the music,
it sounded like the old U updated. That's what I
want to say that as a compliment, that's.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
What I want to head on.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
So I don't want you. I don't want I don't.
I mean, I do want a new X, but I
want the old sounding right now.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
You will not be disappointed. And that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Like it to me.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
I haven't put out a record since twenty twelve.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
You let my guy in. Yeah, the gate is locked.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
I haven't put a record out since twenty twelve. And
so now the way this music has come across, like bro,
I feel like everything that's needed to be done for
the exhibit brand has been done on this record.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Musically we got yes, okay, goddamn makes no noise for that.
Do you do you play poker?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
No?

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
You can't never play poker.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I'm just telling you because no, no poker, because he's
a poker pok Poka. Because every time I know when
you're about to say something good, I just.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
I see it too. I can't hide this.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Ship I ever think of that.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
They're gonna get you.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
No, I got some real bucket list moments on this record. Okay,
you know, Dre mentioned to you guys that we had
just did a song for the album. He's featured on
it with Ti Dollar Sign. Swiss Beast did the track
with co production from him. And uh, there's a man
a question his minute.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I got the question. What label is this one?

Speaker 3 (44:21):
It's on green Back Records. Green Back Records is Connor
McGregor's label.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
How did that have? How did that connection?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
You got ta yes, yes, How to check this out?
I need to hear this. Okay, So, so did.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
You take a shot?

Speaker 1 (44:43):
A shot?

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Take a shot? I'm sorry I'm talking because, by the way.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
That is like some dope ship to say, like you're
gonna trip, I'm gonna do it. That's friss. Yeah, play
for the Okay, yeah, yeah, that's not a shot.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Okay, but AGAHD, let's just way Okay.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
So we're finishing up the record and shout out to
Bobby D Presents that's my management company, and uh, and
we were finishing up the album. We were putting it.
We were putting all the finishing touches, bells, and paid
for all this. Yeah, okay, all the album. We didn't
this was not done with the label. So the album

(45:25):
was being finished, and then we started talking about how
we're going to release this, and I went and looked
at you. I mean, I see what Russell was doing. Yeah,
shout out to lou Russell. I saw you know, I
know Empires, I know all you know, big up Gazi,
I know we had, you know, and then you have
the actual major labels.

Speaker 2 (45:43):

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Like, we explored every single one and kind of just
kind of sat back and was like, no, what's right?
So what's right for the this project that we have?
Who's going to do something correct by what we're doing?
And so we we were just going through that motion
and then I got a call from Bobby and he
was like, hey, what do you think about Connor McGregor.

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I was like, the Okay, who's Bobby the fighting motherfucker?

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Cool? Cool cool?

Speaker 3 (46:12):
And he's like like, what do you think about Conor McGregor.
I was like, the fighting motherfucker? Like what's happened to
He's like, well, he's starting to label. I was like,
funk out of here, you know what I'm saying, Like
he's not, like what does he know about music?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
He was like, well, he's very serious.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
This is what he is, this, this is what he
wants to do, this is who he has on board,
this is you know what he's his vision is. So
I sat back and I took a meeting with him,
and then the way they explained the way that they
want to do this and the global reach and impact
that that they.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Have the record label, meaning the record label, meaning.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Meaning the people that he's brought into to do the
record label, was pretty intense, man, And I was like,
you know what, this is something new, this is something different,
this is uh, this is something that doesn't come with
the any level of expectation.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Everything we do is a first you.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Know what I'm saying, so to be and what's really
attractive is that I'm the first artist that's going to.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Go through the label.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Oh wow, he has other artists, but you need to
sign Bone as well.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
The sign Bone.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Okay yeah, okay, I did.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Hear that, but they have but but he he has
a really deep love for what we do. But that's
it's not just a hip hop label. There's a there's
there's a pop act on there. There's some different folks
that are coming out. It's not just a hip hop label.
The band that's coming on it's it's it's different the
way they're doing it, But to be the first release

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on there, there's a lot to prove, And so I
would rather have good business people around that aren't jaded
by the and and feel with politics that are we
seeing the music industry right now, and people that just
want to do good business that don't have interactions with
all this suits you what I'm saying, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
No baggage.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
So it's I think it's a good it's a good
way to shoot over niggas heads, you know, a shot
for that?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
What in the Dixie cup? What the come on here?

Speaker 1 (48:08):
We're gonna it's we've got a long game. We're gonna
do you want to play quick? Thomas sign out?

Speaker 2 (48:13):
No want to finish this? Okay? Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
So so we we uh we decided to do it.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
We decided to go with green Back Records.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
And so is your record label under there as well?

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Or it's just you know, it's just it's it's it's
just like I think we got one album with an option.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Okay, you know what I'm.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Saying, Just because we're feeling each other out right, But
so far, so good everything, But you're.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Giving it about doctor Dre record. Is this you still
own the Master's only? Okay, okay, that's the partner.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Yeah, no, no, it's it's very up today. It's not
like the old it's not like the old days.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah, saying because you bring it with no
respect to him, but you bring it everything to the table.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
It's like, well you already recorded on his own dimes.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
That's what he bringing everything to the table, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Like we we've always done our records without without the machine.
You know, even when I was in the machine, I
never got the full push that I should have gotten,
you know. So now I'm pushing myself and now I
just need the vehicle.

Speaker 2 (49:14):

Speaker 3 (49:14):
It's somebody who was like minded that wants to see
it win as well. They don't have to be record guys.
We're the record guys. You know, we've been doing it
for ourselves so long. It's like, okay, cool, Now we
just need somebody who can promote the funk out of
this shit. And I don't think anybody's ever promoted better
than Connor McGregor.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
But what I think is important that you're saying, is
that sorry, Sorry, he's brought in people.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
It's not just relying on him in his brain.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
You don't have boxing people or MMA people working on record.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Shit, he's going in.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
He's cherry picking, you know, the people who are qualified
to do the work. And we made sure we made
sure that was what that was happening as well. But
again we knew it was gonna be a slow burn.
I haven't put out a record in a long time.
I gotta put records out. I got to let people
know that I'm coming out again. In a room in
a world full of noise like this. It's a lot,
a lot of music that comes out every single day,

(50:11):
every single day, you know, and I think a lot
of I think the lane is really crowded, you know,
so just staying for right now.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
For I think the later's crowded for for uh like
generic like you know that younger racing. But I'm looking
at bust of rhymes like he's he's fucking.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Every other fucking weekend. I'm like rest like you know.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
What I'm saying, Just think about it. Look at college
Joe like you Gray Snoop, Like I feel like to
say it like this but I feel like it's our
time again, but it's it's it's to our to us,
like meaning like we don't have to snap and pop
and all that other dumb I was like, get that

(50:58):
together because I feel like for the first time, like
it feels like the fans are growing up with us,
Like our fans is probably our age and it's now
they want our ship, like you know, I like growing up.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
I think the saving grace.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
I think the saving grace of what we're experiencing now
and while we're able to speak directly to our audience
is the convenience of being able to get to the
music faster. You don't have to invest time and go
to a record store or possibly be sold out or
a physical copy. It's like you can point click download
have it right there. So you know, the people who

(51:41):
grew up to our music have families, they got their
own lives. Now they get win all the things you
needs to do. Is they hear that is happening and
they can get it. I think that's that's the magic
of what we're dealing with now.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Yeah, that was crazy. Access Now the global reach the
way it is now.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
You remember when you had to you had to go
to London. You had to physically bring your record to London,
like there was no m P three, there was no.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
You're bringing white labels over there, white labels yet press.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yeah, yes, that was horrible.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Times it was great, but it was great.

Speaker 8 (52:15):
Like it's horrible if you think about it.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Let me finish it. It was horrible because you physically
had to bring your record and it was so inconvenient,
but the process was so beautiful because just like like
you look at these kids right now, if they ever
go to Europe and they perform over their vocals, they'll
get bulled off, but but they gotta you gotta experience that,
like not really because that's what their audience is. Accustomers.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
They have your right to generate the generation.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
But I just sound like the old about to say
in my day, and I'm like, I like, man, but
our day, that our day, like we.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Knew better, we.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Knew I don't remember one time I performed in Europe
and I did like an hour and a half and
I had did an hour the day before, and it
was like it was like not there was like good
but not enough, not enough, but it was like not enough,
and I was like, really, it's like, we wanted more records,
so we added more records, and these records happened to

(53:18):
be the only two records that had vocals in it. It
was I believe in it. Ironically, from the Firm album,
we never had an instrumental and I remember they waited
waited for me to get up this awesome job, but
you had the vocals in there, and I was like,
oh at attention, like a yeah, oh man, what is

(53:39):
your favorite era hip hop?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
My favorite era of hip hop.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
I have?

Speaker 3 (53:50):
It goes from like Public Enemy L eighty e PMD
rock Him, Uh, Poor Righteous Teachers, Uh, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Gang Star.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
You know though that that that era into you know,
the Death Row, you know n w A that that
up up until the end. You know what I'm saying before,
right up before I got in that was like my
That was like my college. That was my school. That
was like the things I was listening to. I remember

(54:32):
going and buying Cypress Hills first album with the red cover.
I remember, you know what I'm saying, going and listening
to you know, like musical my friends are driving around
and listening to what came out and knowing the word
for words and like going through the whole album from
top to bottom to find the song that you fuck
with the most, and ain't everybody consistently consistently consensus was

(54:55):
the same.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
You know that that I think, you know.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Like like the like the late eighties, you know what
I'm saying, into the early two thousands or early nineties
was was my favorite era. I respect that.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
I think it's kind of a blended thing, you know
what I'm saying, because I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
There's different graduating every generation.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Every ten years there's a new graduating class, That's the
way I feel, you know, and then you see new
artists come out, some some stick around, some fall off.
But every ten years you can look and see, like
if you cut down the tree, you see the rings,
you see, Yeah, you see who was doing what when right.
It's just going to be interesting to see how that

(55:37):
plays out now.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Because I don't see them.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
I don't see the longevity of the artists that are
coming out now, like the majority, correct, I don't see
ten years from now what they what their sounds are
going to be like, or if they're even going to
be remembered, because the tension span is so so fast
right now.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
It's very true flowers man. Hold on, yeah, right now,
So let me ask you. I always get conflicted conversations
when I asked about this man. In fact, one time
it was Dazz on one side and cor Up on one side.
One was saying funck him, and the other one was like,
I love him, yeah, which is very weird.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
It's very weird, right.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
I tried to ask Snoop and Dre, but Drake clearly
said I didn't understand when his motherfucker was over there?
What what? What? What was your relationship with Sugar Night.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I didn't have one.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
You didn't have one at all? No, No, So.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Y'all didn't see each other.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
You say, what's up?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
So you know later on? Yeah, okay, later on.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
But it was just like a I was never like
in a room or had a conversation with him or
a nothing.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
It was just like a.

Speaker 6 (56:43):
Join because it seems like everybody got hu.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
My next question would have been, what would the exhibits
albums sound like on death Row Ship I'm not talking
about now. It would be mixed very well, would very well? Yeah,
But so you never got approached to be on death
Row ever? Get out of here?

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Ever, I was on loud when Loud got bought by
Sony Columbia. I was on there for a while. They
took Loud and just kept me three six Mafia and
Wu tang right, and remember what point should.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Be trying to get warn g so that I'm that's
what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 6 (57:30):
I'm sure that the warry is close to that, right,
but him being or or at that time, at that time,
that's what I'm saying that.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Yeah, that was Yeah. I didn't come in until after
all that.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Okay, I could have seen you at the tail end
of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right at the ass end
of it.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
What I mean, did you say, well mixed? What would
a Death Row exhibit albums sound like? Would sounds incredible?

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Yeah? Thing about the eraror there was no whack albums
that came out of that.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
No, it would have been It would have been kind
of like the sound of what's happening. But I think
the production would have sounded like that. But my lyrics
would have been something else.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
You know what I'm saying. My lyrics would have been
something else.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
I'm gonna be honest, and I say this is behind
your back. I saying to your lyrics.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
Not flow right? Get your lyrics lyrically, the content of
the lyrics.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Do you think you was ahead of your time? Like, like,
I'm listening to your old ship. I'm like this motherfucker
was talking about this ship back then.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
All right, right, I.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Pride myself on being able to stand as individual with
my art, you know what I'm saying. And so I
was rapping about things on my first album like paparazzi,
you know, like you know, people people.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Spreading the room.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Man, he had as yes, said that's a different thing.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
No, you know, I disagree.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
I'm an artist. I can say this. Lady got you big.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
You always come in checks.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I'm sorry, but.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
I'm like, I see what she got her ship from.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Like I say, so what let's wrong with it? I've
been running with.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
It ship Man, I forgot what the funk I was talking? Okay,
So yeah, all right, so so so like the Foundation
talking about the fear of being a new father and
not you know, being a young father. You know, I
was a father at nineteen years old, so you know,

(59:45):
I was a kid myself. So I had to figure
out you know, I put that in my music. Being
vulnerable is something that I don't I'm not afraid of
and so being able to have that in my records.
And yeah, there's a lot of bravado, there's a lot
of tough ship. There's there's that, you know what I'm saying.
But I always revealed a lot of myself and my

(01:00:05):
music because I wanted that to be the relatable part.
I didn't want to just say shit to just get niggas
to like it, you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Know what I'm saying. Like I wanted to be like
I want.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
To that, but that's the era we come from, Like
we want to live our records, you know what I'm saying,
We don't. We don't want to just make them. And
so that was that was where we were at, you
know what I'm saying. And so I think that from
that standpoint, it gave me a clear path to be myself.
I wouldn't say ahead of my time, but just be

(01:00:35):
an individual, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Like, but that's the definition of ahead of our time
as you saying something that people are catching on.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
To now, right, you know what I mean? But I
do know you're being humble.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
I'm taking it for that, But I also I also
think that, you know, it could have been a lot
a lot different if if the if the people I
was working with saw the same vision that I had
and pushed a little hard, you know what I'm saying.
It was like yeah, yeah, loud and like any other
even the major labels, like like yeah, there was always

(01:01:10):
people in the building that had that looked at it
one way, and then they took what you said and
took bits and pieces of it to passify you. But
really they just gonna do what they want to do anyway,
you know what I'm saying. So so yeah, we've had
a lot of commercial success with major labels, but the
impact that I want, the impact that that will make.

(01:01:31):
But you know, when you got that itch, you know
what I'm saying, you want to scratch it with you know,
like I know what it's gonna take to get that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
I feel like I have that now, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
I have it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
I like, I feel, I smell it, I could see it,
you know what I'm saying. Like, like this album, to me,
it feels like this is the album that I've been
trying to make since the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
You know what they say, They say you make your
best album when you broke and when you don't need it. Yeah, yeah,
you know, I feel like that's that's the thing is
like you probably don't need it, but you know you
want to feed your fans because I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Feel like I owe them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Yeah, I feel like I owe my fans, And that's
something real. Like I think I'm glad you said that
because you know, I you know, I could have easily
just stopped and just been like, that's it, you know
what I'm saying, Because it's very hard to make a
record right now, you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Yeah, Yeah, many when you're not mentally in it, when
you're just rhyming to be rhyming and just putting it
out to see if it sticks to the wall. And
then when you really believe in something that's different. You
know what I'm saying. I believe in this record, Like
I mean every fucking word I say, from the beginning
to the fucking end of this shit, every fucking single
word has been thought about and calculated, and I have

(01:02:48):
now I have the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Creative space and the freedom to do that. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
It's not like my life don't depend on it, but
I feel like I owe it to the fans. I
feel like I feel like I left it in a
place where a lot of niggas got me fucked up,
you know what I'm saying, Like it was left, Like
it was like left abandoned, like a couple of wheels missing.
You know what I'm saying, Like fucked up. You know

(01:03:13):
what I'm saying. My opinion, like nah, I can't leave
it like that. And yes, I turned down TV shows,
I turned down films, I turned down all these other
things because right now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
The most important thing to me is the music. You
know what I'm saying. And you know, I grew my
braids back everything I'm about fid I'm ready to go
nigga like you know what I'm saying, Like and I
feel I feel like once, I feel accomplished, Like I
just came off for European Brown because we went out there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
I'm touring with a live band now, So I went.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Out there and we were We did that the kind
of like a test run in front of people with
the new records and the band, but boy, we we
kicked a hold in the motherfuckers. We performed for like
our hour and a half, sometimes two hours, you know
what I'm saying, Like we do an Encore and motherfucker screaming,

(01:04:11):
we come back and do another one, they screaming. So
what we do with three encores? I never did that ship.
I ain't never had to do nothing like that. You know,
That's how this music feels, you know what I'm saying.
And so like I was. Once we did that. We
went to Ireland, met the green Back guys. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Yeah, sound cold, Yeah, it's actually beautiful. Yeah yeah, it's
actually beautiful.

Speaker 8 (01:04:34):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
I don't know why I'm thinking of Iceland.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, got me, you got me Iceland.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
And then and then uh, and then we went to Spain.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
That's that's where I met the first time when Drake Mabell.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
I ain't been there. It was really nice.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
We went to do uh the Bare Knuckle boxing event
and I met Connor there for the first time. And yeah, man,
it seems like the energy and the push that is
coming behind what we did on this album.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
I can't wait to share with the world. With the world.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Man, God damn's play a noise for that. But let
me tell you what, what's crazy. You know, obviously you're
my friend, but I got to do my due diligence,
and I just was hitting everybody and it was so
crazy for me when when I said, you know, I
got to exhibit, it's either two things they say, yeah,
my ride, damn yeh. But but here's this crazy Whenever

(01:05:36):
a person goes straight to pit my ride, I'm like,
he's not hip hop, Like judge that person. I'm so
sorry that first thing they say, because that shouldn't be
you know what I mean. It should be like you
know what I mean? Like you know what I mean?
And and and even if you go to dre it's
like still like do you not understand like this whole
you know life this guy was was you know what

(01:05:57):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
So yeah, but I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Yes, yes, you know. I used to fight that part
of your business man me personally, I.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Used to fight that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
I used to go places and they used to book me,
and I didn't know what Norway they were booking when
they booking the Reggae Throne, nor component.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Have all those noise in the backside.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
But then I realized, I said, fuck it, they all
here anyway. Yeah, yeah, but I'll take it.

Speaker 8 (01:06:18):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
But I the other day, still at home, high as hell,
watched the TV and I watched at least fifteen fake
Pip my Ride shows, and I had to look at.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
This ship and be like, I wanted to call you
so bad and be like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
If I'm mad at these these people trying to be you,
these people like all this crazy shit, Like do you
ever like see these other shows and be like, man,
they owe me restitution.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Nah, you know, I look at that whole thing and
I try to Now, I'm now there's some distance on it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
I make inse of it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
That was a vehicle for in a world where reality
television was built on the you know, demise of someone
or or someone's character, you know, or somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Help, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
We were actually doing something positive and so it also
introduced me to the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
World in a different Yeah it's a different.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
In a whole different manner, you know, and it led
to a whole lot of other opportunities. I wanted the
world to see me a certain way, but you know,
and what way was that? As exhibit the rapper, you
know what I'm saying, I just wanted the world to
know me as a lyricists. I'm with you doing this.
I'm I'm a monster on the mic. That's you know,

(01:07:42):
that's what I wanted the world to know me as.
But that can that can exist with with other with
other things too, you know what I'm saying. Like, and
so that's why I feel like what we did with
with the show and how the world perceived it and
how I was in people's living rooms across the planet,
you know, seven seven, you know, yeah, man, I think

(01:08:02):
it was dope. It was about wish fulfillment. It was
about you know, something positive happening for somebody, and everybody
got a piece of shit car you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
At some point in they like, you know what I
thinking about it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
You was a black man with braidsen all the white
people's houses. They loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
They loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
I don't think they've been houses since. I think.

Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
That was like the first of the restoration type reality.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Yeah, yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
It was the first of a lot of different things.
But you know, I never looked back at that. I
used to look back at that when when I didn't,
I was too close to it. So now as I
as I think back on it, it's like, Yo, this
really like like people talk to me about putting my
right every day, Like, yo, you got my right, you know,
what I'm saying, even in jets, you know what I'm saying. Like,

(01:08:50):
it's like people that if they don't know what to say,
they say that you know what I'm saying, and so
and so I'm like, okay, cool, So you know what,
that's something interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
It's it's some of you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
You.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
I don't know if I'm supposed to even be talking
about this, but you know who just approached me, you
know what I'm saying, to do it again, Not because
because it's the only people who actually had the right
idea on how to approach me about this was only fans.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Only fans listen, listen just to watch that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Already, not the porn side, one big side.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Category category.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
But only fans are starting the TV side of.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
Things, right, They never meant to start off as only.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Fans, just starting the whole television division.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
They loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
They bought they bought a race car team, like uh yeah, yeah, yeah,
a motorcycle racing team. They're producing the content. They got
a cooking show.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
That that that they're they're doing network style television, and
and and so I got a doctor, I got a call,
and so they was like, yo, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
We have fuck you money. You know, you know, do
you want.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Us to a good way?

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Do you do you want us to go buy the
I p pit my right. Do you you wantus to
go buy it? And then will you if we go
get it, will you do it again? I was like, No,
that's nobody's ever.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
That's kind of fly Brandon.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
I know it, listen, I know it's I did my
due diligence. I know it's being sold to somewhere and
somebody else right now and whatever, it's going to a
bigger thing. They're selling all their assets from from that
side of things. So I was like, you know, I
think I think as a betting man, I think that
I don't need the title pet my Riot to do it.

(01:10:50):
I think if I do it on my own and
create something totally different, the audience is going to kind
of know what it is. I don't think it needs
to be that title, right, So you know, if I
if I'm betting on myself, then yeah, I think that
you know, we can create something a hybrid of that
show has now done the way I see it, Yes,

(01:11:11):
and and I think the world would appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
And you'll be owner this time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
So all these big, huge networks that have already garnished
all these.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Millions of dollars. Only fans.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Only fans was the only ones that actually knocked on
the door.

Speaker 10 (01:11:27):
I'm getting my account, ya, I'm gonna supporting right now, man,
supporting right now.

Speaker 6 (01:11:44):
You gotta restart your golden status.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Only fans gold you got gold status.

Speaker 11 (01:11:49):
I don't even know that you know, you know that's
dope because I've been seeing, because I've been seeing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
These little networks like Zeus and things like that. I
haven't been seeing and loving hip hop like it's crazy.
Like these little networks, they're doing their own versions of
the shows.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
And you got Jocelyn. Big up to Jocelyn.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
She's in charge of her cabinet. I think ray J
got something. And they're all like little owners of these
little networks and they're making it pop except for to
be like Tooby's only one is a little loose. So slowly,
I don't know who old to be. Wait, he is legitly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
Slowly, but surely, we are witnessing us becoming small networks,
satellite networks and having direct access to our audience. The
gatekeepers have lost the gate already. We just used to

(01:12:50):
going through them. So that's why we keep kind of
drifting that way, but slowly but surely the.

Speaker 6 (01:12:55):
Path is being They're just trying to buy everything up
even though they're.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Trying to keep control power.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
But as as as they lose power, we are starting
to gain it and we can go directly to our audience.
So I think that's what the attractiveness of it is.
Me understanding what it's been before, going through it, understanding
it in a different light now, and now being able
to step back in and control and control the narrative

(01:13:21):
is amazing, you know what I'm saying. So so yeah,
we have we haven't gotten far with.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
It, I hope again and again. Let me just let
me just say something. I'm a binge watcher, right and
I used to like, you know, HBO all this shit,
like I stay home Now I watch ship that no
one I watch Prime Apple TV like I watched like
and well, again, you as long as you cater to
your audience, I don't think you ever have to change.

(01:13:46):
I don't think I'm just noticing that, like you know
what I mean, Like, like remember it was just HBO,
Cinemax showtime. I can stay home for a whole week
I'm not hitting on none of those ships. I'm not
watching what's supposed to be popular. I'm watching what speaks
to me. I'm watching this sh it called Bad Monkey.
I don't know if you've heard of it, but Vince
Vaughn it. It's kind of crazy. It's about Florida. It's
not the Keys. I always think of you, like cause

(01:14:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Me or I think you'd be in the Keys.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Well, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Yeah, I don't even watch TV.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Like, I don't watch like like programming, you know what
I'm saying, Like like like television show, sitcoms and all
that stuff. You get all that on the stream platform
and watch it when you want to watch it. So
it's I think it's just changing man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Netflix, guy, Yeahlix, Netflix, Max, HBO Max yeah, okay, Apple TV,
Apple TV, Apple TV of course, and then yeah Amazon, yeah, yeah,
that's probably making me pay.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
I don't do Hulu anything like rend it. I'm like, oh, ship,
you're privately make you ready?

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Yeah, how about reading it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
That's as far as that as I start. I'm kind
of weird about that. I don't like the whole don't.
I don't have a bunch of ship on my phone,
like I just have like certain ship, Like I don't
do the cash app ship and all that cash zelp zep.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Like I was fighting it for a long time. I
didn't like people.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
I mean, I know I have it now, but I
barely use that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
I don't know is okay.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
That's easier because you know the right there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
You know what's crazy. I just know how to send money.
When somebody send me money back, I just I think
that shit goes into I don't know how to download it,
like what I got money though, Yeah I can't RecG.
You just diner the other day and I have my
homies homies with me and I took care of the
bill and then Nigga, my phone start going off and

(01:15:41):
I see these numbers coming.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
I'm like, who's sending me?

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
What is?

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Are you sending me money?

Speaker 6 (01:15:46):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Where does it go?

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Nigga? Where it goes? You know, I cash out direct you.
I'll be trying not to look stupid, so I don't
be like I do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
It's in the Apple cash and I know it makes
me sound really old, but fun that you know what
I'm saying, Like you're talking to a nigga to keep
us all this money to all facing up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I come from the
old school. You know what I'm saying, ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
This is dangerous the phone, having like your cards on
your phone. Yeah, like then you lose this. Motherfuckers. It's automatically.
I see you Fat Joe's wife get him drunk one day.
Maybe I got him drunk too. And wallet you mean
Waller on the phone, Yeah and yeah, And we went
to a jury store and I just fell sorry for

(01:16:34):
like it was just.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Like I was just like, it's just you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
You mean, there's there's there's two sides to convenience. You
know what I'm saying. There's that could have been a
positive here. You know, you know our show, that's right,
it's about giving people their flowers. You know, we had
you on early when we were discovering who it is,
but we were more enough to tell you how much
you mean to the rap game, how much you mean

(01:17:00):
to I was about to say West Coast, but I
don't want to limit you to the West Coast. I
don't want to limit to you to you know, California.
I want to limit you to I want.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
To not limit you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
I want to you know, to the fucking galaxy. You
know what I'm saying, Like, you are a person who
changed the game. You're a person who has remained lower,
a person who's main down, your person who has never
you know, cracked folded, and we want to give your
flowers face to face man and man, as Snoop said,

(01:17:32):
it's better than the Grammy because it's from your people,
for sure. You know what I'm saying, nigg I don't
even get invited to the BET Awards, So this is
all okay, okay, okay, they said, ray J has Tronics
who said that, Okay, okay. Yeah, so these these are
little networks. I'm with you on that. I want to
but only fans is not little network.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
And and to be able to be that, they have
the vision to approach me. They have a bigger vision
for it then than than what I'm thinking. Right, So yeah,
I think it's dope. I think I thank you for
this too, man. I appreciate it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
By the way, by the way, you deserve this. It's
not something like we're not we're not giving charity.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
You feel this y yeah ship?

Speaker 6 (01:18:20):
All right, yeah yeah, Now I hope that that you
do that deal man.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
And no, I mean listen, listen.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
It all works, and I think it goes back to
the original question, Like you know, when people talk to
me and they talk about paying my ride, doesn't bother me. No,
it does not bother me. You know what I'm saying.
It make it just there's so many other things. It
could have been so different from me to come from
where I come from and to have made so many

(01:18:54):
people happy, you know what I'm saying, Like people like
people walk up to me and say, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
I grew up to you, you know, like, yo, you
you know you were my childhood.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
I was like, damn nigga, not that, you know what
I'm saying, Like, you're not that much younger than.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
With that, Like even with that yo, you were you
were you were ahead of your time. Like I said
that earlier with the with the lyrics and the music,
But just think about that in reality, like we weren't
used to seeing motherfucker with braids, you know what I'm saying,
Like going to you know what's that ship? Ris County.

(01:19:38):
You were going to Rancho Cougar Bonga.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Yeah. I was really worried.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
When I first started to paying my ride that my
peers and hip hop were gonna frown upon it. Wow,
because I was young, you know what I'm saying. And
I really shouldn't have gave a fuck, you know what
I'm saying. Definitely should but I was. I was worried
about it because I love what we have this thing

(01:20:04):
of ours hip hop is this brotherhood, this this this unity,
this this unspoken word, this code that we live by.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
I was stepping outside of that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Right, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
But you weren't though, But it's the same thing that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
They talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Cannot make it make sense on sir, outside of this
looking at the same things. Inside of looking out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
You kept it hip hop, like had you had a
fucking tuxedo on, you know what I'm saying, Like like
if you was like like doing some weird funny ship like,
you kept it hip hop. That's the thing about it.
Like a lot of people think like hip hop is
not even a close Sometimes hip hop is just you
can put on anything, you can put it on prisons
to and still be hip hop. Right, you know what

(01:20:43):
I mean, and that's what I think the U the
legitimacy comes from. My ride is no matter what if
you was in Albuquerque, if he was in wherever, if
he was never left California, he never left California. Sea
an't know that. In my mind, I was to Seattle,
you know what I'm saying, like all over the place,
soul it was. It was kept hip hop. I think

(01:21:05):
that's my point is like like you're slang not You
brought hip hop in the world through the strike.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
But it was a risk because it was a risk
because nobody else had done it. Yes, right, you're the
first reality TV. You gotta remember we come from motherfucker.
You talk about, you know, third base when it was
just an mc hammer for doing Pepsi commercials.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
You know what I'm saying, em crossover, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
Like that's where I was directly going against that rule, right,
But it was I did it because I thought that
it would help my music. Total opposite. It had nothing
to do with the music. Motherfuckers didn't even it didn't
even move the needle. It did take me into a
household name though.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
In my opinion, outside of looking in and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
You got something that joint gotcha. God damn, still there
talking about Jesus. But see, in my opinion, now not
now now, I would like you correct me. It was
represented in the right way to me, Like when I
seen that, like I want, I wouldn't want. I wouldn't
want to watch you represent for us like you never

(01:22:21):
felt like that if like yeah, I felt like he
was bringing us with them.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
I went to wordy like that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
But I'm glad it landed like that, meaning I'm glad
that it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Was like perceived like that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, you got people,
you know who don't necessarily appreciate the transition from one
to the other. But for the majority of people, there
was a positive response.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
And you were picking out your own clothes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
You gotta ask because come on, they definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
The same exhibit on the show that you saw.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
That's what I'm trying to say. What I'm trying to
say is you know once was it a success?

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
They have he said he wasn't wearing a suit and tie.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
And then that's what's different was the the world got
to see my character.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
They got to see the way I speak to my
family members. How ill I tell horrible dad jokes? All
the time, and and and and that's my sense of
humor though, you know what I'm saying. So now I'm
not exhibit wrapping a thousand fuck you bars.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
Now you get to see me joking around with somebody
and being able to relate to someone who's not a celebrity,
Like being able to talk to people is a gift,

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Some people don't know how to relate to who one
and you jo on right, right? But that that's how
I That's how I am.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
And so the world got to see that side of
me and accepted that part. And I never in the
world expected the you know, I never expected the world
to accept me as as I am.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
I only only what I presented, you know what I'm saying.
So you were worried more than anything.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
Right, right, But I was worried about a lot, you
know what I'm saying, Like, like, are they it's just
going to affect me going back and doing music? Is
this going to affect me? You know, like I don't
know how it's going to be perceived. But it became
a juggernaut hit. Yes, it became a path to follow.
It became, you know, one of the things that people
strive to emulate. That's why all these other shows, you know,

(01:24:32):
came from it. And you know, I look back at
that and be like wow, Like when you have imprints
on society, that's different than just having a moment or
having a hit record like this is this is something
that lasts like generations.

Speaker 6 (01:24:47):
You're literally a part of people's childhood or just their
viewing experience at home or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
That's that's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
You could talk to You could talk to people and
ask them, you know, about Pimp My Ride and they'll
know what it is is, you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Know, but let me ask you, like we was required
about only fans and they said they.

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
Buy the I p O.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Look they're willing to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Does that mean that you that you get back to
old episodes like how Snoop got with death ro Like
he doesn't have the old people, but he has people.

Speaker 6 (01:25:21):
He was a part of the original ownership. Were you
a part of the original ownership of the creation?

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
So he so they stepped to you with this idea already.

Speaker 6 (01:25:29):
But but you could be if they buy it and
you say, well, if you buy it, I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
It's super inclusive. They already told me, you know what,
they what their vision was. But again it's just an idea.
But I'm just letting them know. Shout out to OnlyFans television.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
I'm down with y'all. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Like like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Like if look.

Speaker 12 (01:25:51):
You look at the camera, I'm down with hand videos.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
I'll be your hand on. It'd be dope, It'd be dope.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
But yes, you know what I'm saying, Like everything everything
that was successful in the past. You know what I'm
saying that it still can still have relevance now, Like yo,
why not do it? You know what I'm saying, Like
why not? Why not put it back out there? But listen,
you know if it comes to fruition, you'll be give
you guys to be the first one.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Oh yeah, I got damn it. We'll be drinking on
the side, just comments just to get it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
But all right, I'm want to ask you this.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
At one point this hat company was paying me right,
pave me to wear a hat. I just I thought,
awhile I just could not stop wearing this hat. Was
there a point where the sess of the show. That
was a big show. That was our first time getting
to see a brother that we know that being himself,
staying himself at that. But it's crossing over, like it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Became a house.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
It's almost like it's almost like n W A W
A Records wasn't meant to cross over. Who Records wasn't
want to cross over, but it crossed over. You wasn't
trying to cross over, but you was coming in everyone's household.
Was it? Was it any time that that that show
like actually was a burden on you while you was
recording it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
I didn't get to tour. I didn't you have to
stay in the place, didn't make music the same way, right,
I couldn't record.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
We recorded seven seasons and it was like you know,
it was it was always something and so I couldn't
be away from LA and so I wasn't able to tour.
It affected a lot of the music side of things,
you know. So then it was like I had spent
so much time doing the show. When I went back

(01:27:41):
to do music, it was met with pell my ride,

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
I was met with that the label party said name
your album.

Speaker 6 (01:27:50):
Yeah, I bet you it's similar to how you felt
with coming back. I mean, you were still in music
for me and this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
No, no, yeah, I think it.

Speaker 6 (01:27:58):
I think the sentiment is probably the same for him
going back to doing music after the show, the same
way that you felt trying to figure your point ahead.
You felt alienated. Remember you said you were in hip
hop purgatory. Yeah, I felt I bet you that he
kind of felt that same sentiment that you felt.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
See, I see.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
The thing is again, I'm a fan at this time,
so I'm not seeing If you agreeing with that, I'm
not seeing I'm seeing nothing but glory.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
Right, That's what I'm seeing, right, you know what I mean? Okay,
but it.

Speaker 6 (01:28:27):
Didn't But he hadn't been training, he hadn't been in
the studio, he hadn't been.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
I wish I wasn't able to do what I what
I would, what I wanted to do. You know I
was doing. I was doing something that was really dope, right.
You know, my first love music is my first love.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Jesus man, I'm not gonna lie to you. Like I said,
we had third base on him, and we were sitting
back and we were saying, how many you know things
that people wouldn't do because of the commercialism.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
But you was. I kid you not.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
I would bet everything that you was the person.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
That balanced that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Like you know what I mean. I love this story, bro.
I'm just being honest, bro, because you broke barriers. Man.
You know what I'm saying. You did something that I
believe that can't be replaced. That's why when I see
the fakes, would you ever produce a show like that

(01:29:29):
without you in it?

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Okay, that's the show a name be called.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
I don't think it necessarily has to be about cars.
I think doing pimpyer Fridge.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
I didn't even think.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
A makeover show is what's necessary. I think what's missing
right now is uh like people actually doing genuine things
for other people.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
You know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Like you see you see you know, like things on
social media whatever. But you know, like again, that show
was about Wisher filming. That show was about something that
can that we It's no, it's no, it's no racial connection,
there's no there's no party, there's no government official. This
is just about somebody having something that everybody else has

(01:30:21):
and eventually can be able to do something you know,
positive with it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
And so you know, if I do another show man,
you know, I would.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Love to produce something that had that that kind of
basis to it, that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
Route to it. But I mean, there's so many ideas
out there.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
There's so many things, like I got an idea for
a show, like, let me explain what.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
No, yeah, yeah, I don't. Nobody's listening to us. I
don't idea.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
No. I mean, look, if they take it. If they
take it, then so be it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
But good luck. But but I like to go fishing, fishing.
You know what I'm saying, black men fishing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
I like to go deep sea fishing, right, And so
you know, one of one of our ideas, me and
Tato we we we we go out sometimes and so
no out of the what is it the it's an
ox nerd. I forget the name of the place. But

(01:31:21):
but I go out. You know, it's just it's a boat.
We go out, take it two hours into the ocean
and go deep sea fishing.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
And in that, in that that ride.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Out to the ocean, there's like a two three hour
gap before we before we get to the spot. And
so I was like, you know what, I had a
couple of guys come out and they brought their kids,
and their kids were from the hood, South Central, never
been out of the hood, went and got on this
boat and we went out. And so they had the
fucking time in their life on this boat, right, never

(01:31:51):
been out the hood, just experienced. They screaming when they
getting the fish, about the boat, all the ship. And
so I was like, let's do a show called Teaching
Man the Fish and and so what that was is like,
we're going to take people who have like these kids
are coming from like war zones, right, and to see
them have that kind of experience was really dope. And

(01:32:12):
then once going on that long ride back, it was
like I start talking to them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
I was like, so, you know, like, who do you
look at, who do you look up to?

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Who inspires you? What do you want to be?

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
You know what I'm saying, if you could be anything
in the world, who would you want to talk to
to get advice from? They started naming out names. Next
time you have that person come out with that person
on the boat. You know what I'm saying, this is
a dope show. You're giving us a lot. Yeah, No, no,
be honest, this is dope.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
Yeah, but but but then it became a whole other thing.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
So the way we have it lined up and the
way we have it do I mean, good luck, dude.
I mean, like, look, I'm all for people doing stuff
for other people, but that idea, right there would be
sort of the direction I go in order to be
something out And you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
Got to realize this double on contre teach them how
to fish although you talk about fish and you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Life, correct, right, goddamn.

Speaker 6 (01:33:15):
Right, But you could you could tie it up into
the only fans deal if you wanted to.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Yeah, I mean it's limitless, you know, Like the things
that we can do with the relationships we have because
it's all about relationships, you know, the.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
Things that we can do is well, oh we we're
got Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
The things that we're doing with the relationships, we got.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
It.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
It's phenomenal. So I mean, I'm excited about the future,
you know.

Speaker 6 (01:33:51):
But you don't tie like the business dealings with McGregor
with this only fans and these are separate.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Separate deals, right, separate things. You know, keep many eye.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
I've always been one to keep irons in the fire though,
you know, I like, I like trying different ship.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
I think the only fans things sounds incredible. I think
it sounds dope too.

Speaker 6 (01:34:10):
I mean, you know, because it sounds like a not
to country, but it sounds like a company that's trying
to change their image. They got the financial backing to
do it, and they want to pivot from what they
are right now.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
And they're successful and they're trying to find.

Speaker 6 (01:34:24):
The right pieces that puzzle and you that means you
can come in a a at a foundational point of
that pivot and grow with them.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
And I like building things from the ground up, you
know what I'm saying. It gives you get to create
a freedom before all these systems are in place to
limit you on what you actually can do. You know,
and if something works, then you are actually writing that
code for that company. You know, you're creating the DNA
for everything successful that comes after you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
You should tell them give me equity and only fans
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
As I think they're way past that or something. No.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
I think I think coming in there, what I what
A I p that's that's that's that can be you know,
shared and profitable for everybody, is the idea.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
Yeah, we're doing quick time of slim taking a quick
piss with myself. Take a break.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
I gotta do something real quick. All right, ready for
quick time of Slam. Yes, I am ready for Comma
Slop sponsored by Yeah god damn all right, absolutely, okay,
yeah this is good. Yeah still gin Yeah, but you
guys send this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
To You're in like five million group chat.

Speaker 6 (01:35:34):
This is just too many group chests right now.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
It just started the only fans.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
This is the rules.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
We're gonna give you two choices a ship.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Right, Oh I've seen this. Yeah, okay, it's not negative.
We're not pitting people against each other, all right, you
know what I'm saying. It's just sometimes you do.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
I mean, that's not really.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
That's not the point that.

Speaker 6 (01:35:55):
The stories about whoever like jogging by. Yeah, we want
to know your preferences of things, got it, So you
pick one. Nobody drinks one of the two choices. But
if you say both or neither the PC answer you
just don't want to answer it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Then we all drink. Take a shot.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
It seems like we're just about to take a bunch
of shots.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
To say, m j G, m j G. Yeah, yeah,
a ball.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
M j G.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Which was the one m.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
J G just like, yeah, he just he just wanted
to drink. I was that, look, but you might as
well just bring the bottle criteria.

Speaker 6 (01:36:40):
It doesn't it doesn't have to be anything that would
be like yo, my man, because so and so reason.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
You know what I'm saying, Let's do it all.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
Right, Easy? Oh ship.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Easy?

Speaker 6 (01:36:56):
Okay, Okay, you see, I don't think he's gonna pick
you any reasons any story with Easy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
Did you ever meet Easy?

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
I have, I did meet Easy. I met Tupac as well.
I met Easy.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
Eh. I met Easy.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
I saw him on the one ten Freeway driving a
white VMW and I handed him a tape. I recognized him, yeah,
And I handed him a tape and I had my
phone number on it. I thought it was the best
thing ever.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
He's the first Mike Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
He called me, told me to come to the studio,
went to the studio that they recorded the whole n
W A record, and he was like, yeah, man, I
want to sign you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
This is.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
No, this is way after, way after, way after. And
then I think he had just signed bone. Okay wow.
And so that's why this is a little surreal moment
as well. And so then you know, after that lost contact.
You know, the rest is history. But I did meet him,
you know what I'm saying, But not I say easy
because easy E was the catalyst behind the one of

(01:38:10):
the the family tree roots of everything that grew out
of that, including myself.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
You know what I'm saying, Like coming from that n
w A death.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
Row snoop Dog you know eminem family tree that that
branched out aftermath.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
Yeah, you take it. Doesn't have to say at least
not the way we see it exactly right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
So so Tupac is a is a juggernaut and very
artist in himself.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
But I would say easy and what story with Pac?
Any memorable? Dude?

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
I think the biggest thing in me and d D
from the Outlaws, you know, shout out to Edie, Yeah,
and and and and the whole crew man, Like you know,
there was the you know Tupac dissed me on well
he he well, he didn't dis me. I think, uh uh,
one of the Outlaws, fat On Machavelli. He was like

(01:39:10):
he called out whoever did paparazzi because he yeah, they
thought paparazzi I wrote paparazzi about Tupac, like like like
the when he had the how do you want It?

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
Song?

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
All I want is the money in the fame, and
then in my song said, it's a shame niggas in
the rap game only for the money in the fame.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
So so he thought.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
That was about him, and I was like, no, nigga,
it is about It's not about that of that and
so and so, you know, long story short, I was,
I was coming in House of Blues. He pulled up
in a in a white a white Bentley drop top,
hopped out, shook my hand. It's like layer ship walked

(01:39:57):
in there. Did that infamous House of Blue show.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Well, that's that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
Yeah, when they did hit him up correct, Wow, Paul,
he's chest naked, right, I think he had a shirt on.
That's six six two Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
On stage have been a different thing, jumping out of
a car and so yeah, that was the back of
the back of House of Blues, first and only time.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
I ever met Tupac. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
And and uh yeah that was dope man, that was dope.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
But but but now fast forward, me and Edie did
a song together and we had talked about that and
he was like, talk about it. Yeah, we did talk
about it, and he was like man, he was just
he just he just felt like everybody was coming at
him at that time.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
So he was hyper sensitive about everything.

Speaker 3 (01:40:43):
And so once we had that understanding, it's like, bro,
that has nothing to do with nothing and it's all
love now.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
But you know it was, it was, it was a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
It's crazy, that's crazy when the last time you spoke
the blunket. This just tastes like Jesus pussy, right, but
just being this, it is fantastic. Look I got this
for you, man. Look look I got that. I know
you are smoking, man, give.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
Him one of them roll up Jesus rollers up. Okay, yeah,
roll up one bus.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
Assistance from one of my my stores in.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
L A, one of the stores. I like how you got.
Let's be clear understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Okay, you got to give us Los Angeles even traditional.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
I didn't even tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
During COVID I did marriage boot camp and there was
the dispensary that would deliver it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
To me and all over By is their ship like
all over Buys. Yes, I never even called you.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
It was I was like in my mind, I'm like
this nigga got the more appreciated or appreciate. Yeah, how
did you get into cannabis business?

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
What he just said?

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
I mean we here, we here, we hit him.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
That's that's that's that's that's called Los angel.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
O g Angel lost, Los angel O g Angel. Yeah,
it's a collab we did with the traditional brand. That's
stuff mine is. My stores are called Exhibits West Coast Cannabis. Okay, right,
I have one in bel Air and one in Chatsworth.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
Sounds very rich. They look beautiful, yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
Yeah, And I got a I got with a really
good group. But the retail aspect of what I do
in cannabis is where I landed. I started by, you know,
creating some of the biggest brands in cannabis, from you know,
Brass Knuckles to what we did with Nate Palm to
working with others, you know, like like my close friends

(01:42:34):
are you know, Bread, Wonder Bread, the Originals, you know
what I'm saying, Like like of course Doctor Green Thumb,
all all the real heavy hitters, Kenji, all those guys
that really like put the put it down, see Junkie Genetics,
all these guys that I've had real close intimate, you know,
like like real real real relationships. Building brands is where

(01:42:56):
I started. So that started in like twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen,
you know, twenty sixteen. Like the first thing I made
was a taffy and it was it was it was yeah,
and it was like we couldn't get the formula right,
so like one piece would be fucking strong and not
get your ass out, and then the other one wouldn't

(01:43:16):
be as strong as it was. So it was like
a thing we had to make right. And so that
was my entry into it. It was called lool taffy.
And then from there I said, okay, cool. We went
into the vape cards and then we got into other things.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
But I learned a lot. I know every aspect.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
I've had my own distribution, I've had my own manufacturing,
I've had all of that stuff. So I've learned every
aspect of the business. So you know, I think experience
to me is knowing who to fire and you know
what I'm saying. And so for me, being able to
have every aspect of the cannabis industry, you know, understood
retail was a natural thing for me because not only

(01:43:52):
do I know how to build a brand that I
know how to push your brand that I thought it
was dope to be able to like. Okay, well let's
tell everybody shit. You know, California is a ship show
right now. It needs to be regulated in.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
A different way. I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
The rules and regulations for cannabis in California are really
difficult to navigate for legal cannabis now when you out
so there's say there's a thousand shops in California right now,
maybe you know, maybe about half of them are legal,
right so the other guys are operating.

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
With no taxes. No, no, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:28):
It was it was black market or the traditional market,
you know, and so you know it's we plan by
different rules, but it's over taxed, it's overregulated. They make
it really difficult for real operators to to go and
then they have to compete with people who are just
undercutting the prices, you know what I'm saying, you know,
because we got to keep our prices a certain way

(01:44:50):
in order to pay the taxes and whatever it happens
from from the legal business. But then when you got
motherfucking cowboys down the street that don't give a fuck
about none of that shit, putting the sh and color
for last boxes with no regulations and they.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
Got cereal boxes and all.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
All the rappers going in there, like you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
Saying, like why go to a legal shop where I
can go get some fruit loops with a whole bunch
of weed in it? You know what I'm saying Like.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
This, it's difficult to navigate through that in California. So
that being said, there is still a thriving business and
that things get regulated, it will balance itself out.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Go to the next krook Tom Slam, Thank god, Mama.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
Rads. Cats are corrupt.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
Both Jesus, fuck, motherfucker. You can't fuck what the fuck
was that? Jesus, see you talk.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
I just want you to know the Minnican and the
Colombian writes those questions over there, so it's not me
a U f it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
Don't go take it out on where they're from.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
Yeah, I want you to know because it's a conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
N w A or Wu Tang n w A.

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
And look I love listen, I love Wu Tang, but
I mean n w A. It's like, you know, that's
just like where we come from. That's like the Holy croil,
that's you know, that's that ship started. You had this
Jerry Curl before I did not have a fucking I
did have an s curl Curl, I.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
Tell you something I can.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
And I know you had someone and my mom. Fuck.
I remember, Yes, nigga, that ship was crazy. You can
put it up on I have one too.

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
But you know if the niggas used to sell cracking
bye them cheap ass sous from Jeans West. You know
what I say, nigga, Well we did that anyway. Yeah,
that was wow. Fuck I remember that shaved signs with
the little curly.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
Next to damn it king t No, no, no, I
can't do this one. Oh yo, see sorry, you just
give me everything Ice, Oh fuck you God Jesus yeah,
mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
He's got a record with Q.

Speaker 1 (01:47:12):
Yeah, come on, man on the on the album, tell
me you guy, after we get done, you got, I ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
Going nowhere over the quiet storm they.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
To blow it up for the fans. J you hear
that kind of mash up?

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
Jesus okay or jay Z? What the both?

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
Jesus Christmas?

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
Anna Lie. I told y'all spoke to NOAs today this
morning and I hit him.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
I was like, I got dreaded.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
I'm not gonna get in the middle of that ship.
He's fucking crazy. Oh I got, I got all right?
Didn't my shot? Come on, you didn't drink your shot? No? No, no,
I don't. I don't seat the game. I treat the game.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
It's cola shot exactly, thank you. That's Chico. What is
this forty two? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
All cipresso alcoholics?

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
Ooh ooh ooh. I love his racist presidents.

Speaker 6 (01:48:22):
Yo, the links are so assassins. Yeah, what the fuck
you guys? I feel like you're part of both cruiser. Yeah,
I can't fuck it both the fucking I told you
bring spring the bottle.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
Cheers, cheers, cheers.

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
Okay, oh shipg you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
This West Coast ship? I mean, what the just racist?

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
Let you have the West Coast and DJ.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
I got the groups? Is that the DJ and the
West Coast warn Gidfari?

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
Oh wow, you guys are not fair.

Speaker 6 (01:48:59):
What the.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
That's the Dominican and that's the Colombian. That's right right there. Okay, okay, okay,
both damn yeah both I got. I'm older shot.

Speaker 2 (01:49:13):
You can say someone was just was your favorite good.

Speaker 1 (01:49:16):
MACARONIY better so far as my brother is my brother?

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
You know what I'm saying, like bring a million already,
d I drank him.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
You might just drink com okay, all right, and I
haven't drinking a week.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
All right, you got the next one? Go all right,
drink no drink that first.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
Okay. I know I got this one. Pharrell or Kanye
who Man, I'm gonna go with ya, go with yeah,
big up the yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
Any story with ya.

Speaker 8 (01:50:00):
Or for.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
I haven't had a lot of interaction with with either
of them, but I met Pharrell very cordial. You don't
got to be with all timblingbling like everything.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
You know what I'm saying. Talk to Kanye.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
You know what I'm saying, like never never really got
real deep with it, you know what I'm saying. But look,
I say Kanye because I'm a fan.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
Of his work.

Speaker 3 (01:50:39):
You know, I speak fluent artists, right, I like that,
so I speak fluent artists. So I know when I
see it, and I know the frustration that he was feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):

Speaker 3 (01:50:52):
I articulate my frustration in different ways, but I felt
when he was doing that, you know what I'm saying.
And I saw his his roller coaster ride and through
it all, he stayed creative great.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
Through it all.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
He's stayed creative, and he and and he and he
performed at an optimum level, and he was able to
move some really big chess pieces around the board in
the in the state of chaos.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
When you can.

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
Operate like that, I mean, yeah, it's a whole different thing. Look,
and you can't take nothing away from for real, for
Rail as a musical master, he's a genius. He he
definitely has transitioned into like bigger roles as well.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
Going into you know what he's doing with Louis Vatan,
Yeah and yeah, yeah, and the stuff that he's doing
in film.

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
You know what I'm saying with The Despicable Me. Yeah,
I mean, you can't take nothing away from what these
guys are doing because they're doing it at such a
high level. But I love the underdog. I love the
motherfucker that's the you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
Know fights, He's been an underdog in a long time.

Speaker 6 (01:52:06):
He was going, he was he was going against what
I mean, maybe to his own he was bringing it on,
but he was going up against some some big things.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
He's going against some big things, some big ideas. I'm
going to be some big thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
We went through.

Speaker 13 (01:52:19):
Yeah, we went through it. What was that secondhand smoke?
We definitely called second hand smoke? Like this is ahead Jesus,
Nipsey or Drake you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:36):
Nigga ruthless Dominicans of Columbia.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
Draco, Draco, I have to say Nipsey like I you know,
you know, rest in peace Draco's Nipsy piece both.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:59):
I just think that what Nipsey manifested in the city
of Los Angeles, in his neighborhood, in the spirit of
the people.

Speaker 14 (01:53:09):
I got to see it myself. I agree with you
was impactful to a lot of people. They both had impacts,
but I think what Nipsey men and what he represented
was a lot stronger.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
You know, I want to re edit what you're saying
to me.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
I know this is gonna sound crazy, but to me,
every time I met Nipsey, it was like me in
a version of Jesus. It's because he knew everything about
his ogs, like and so many the.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
Younger generation just don't.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
They'll know more about Michael Jordan, did they know about Snoop?
They know about more about fucking you know, Penny Hardaway because.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
Of the Sneakers.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
Then they'll know about biggie, like, you know what I'm saying.
Just because of the sneakers, they won't. Actually, this is
how you're feeding your family and you don't want to
know who the Forefalls was today. So but Nipsey did
Nipsey always, and you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:09):
Can tell the ones who do right, like listen, like
people aren't stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
They know when you really love this thing.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
When you when you really love it, it shows you,
know what I'm saying, And when you really do and listen,
just because you're getting money from something don't make you
really you know.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
The best.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
I think there's I think there's a lot of things
that happened in hip hop and around hip hop, but
you know, we don't own enough you know what I'm
saying to be able to control the narrative.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
And that's cool though, man, because it's growing and it's
feeding families and it's doing all this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
But to still be here and be able to do
this with you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
Like, yes, why I appreciate all of this, man?

Speaker 1 (01:54:57):
Yeah? Yeah. The next.

Speaker 6 (01:55:00):
Common or black thought, black thought, black thoughts, Yo, sounds
like you were mad when coming Decice you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:11):
No, okay, I'm kidding, kidding, I love coming.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
You know what I'm saying Common is Common is an
artist in his own right. But if we're talking about
we're talking to black dots, beasts, man, we're talking about
the whole. We're talking about a motherfucking a beast. We're
talking about and Common is a beast too.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
Please don't diss me comment because no, I get I
get it. But but Black Thought is is a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
I think Common would say Black Thought, Yeah, he's a
fucking phenomenon. No, I don't think that. I think so.
I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
Nat because because what I'm saying is, we'll say.

Speaker 6 (01:55:52):
That we're coming because he is such an m.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
C and he's ready to battle.

Speaker 1 (01:55:56):
Yeah, yeah, I guess, but he ain't ready to battle
Black Thought. But they're fan. They're fan anyways, Black thoughts,
motherfucking monster.

Speaker 6 (01:56:13):
See, I think you Black Thought doesn't get the credit.
He deserves to be honest with you, like he's Loosten.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
You know what I'm saying. I know. I Look, there's
a lot of guys.

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
There's there's some there's some masters of the of the
craft that I feel like, you know what I'm saying
when I listen to them, that the motherfuckers is is
monster Royster five nine being wonderful, out of control black
Thought being another one.

Speaker 2 (01:56:41):
Like there's a.

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
Couple of guys that that that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
I really like, Wow, you know what I'm saying, Like
I really appreciate what they do.

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
And we got this is Cardinal hair, Cardinal Fisher. That's
one of my.

Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
It's not that you got a personal roller too. I'm
rolling my own ship.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
And I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
I've been I've been watching you.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
I mean i've been.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
I've been seeing you put it together.

Speaker 6 (01:57:11):
I got hash and and and diamonds and Cocaina.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
Get the screen.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
Call Kiff Frost, Mellow Mayonnaise, Uh kid Frost.

Speaker 3 (01:57:25):
I love Melow Maynaes. Shout out Melomyannaes. Without Melow Maynase,
we wouldn't have dim Rick. Dimrick came from, you know,
relationship with Melow Maynes. That's how he got introduced to
be real, That's how he got introduced.

Speaker 6 (01:57:39):
Mellows Dog's brother. Correct, And that's my Cuban people's right there. Yes,
that's rush. This question Kid Frost.

Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
Kid Frost was the He's the He's the o G
of that I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
Ruthless. He was on Ruthless.

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
Everything had to hit records, had had the presence, had
the representation, had the whole community behind him, Right Yeah.
His son, his son scooped de Ville.

Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
He was a fucking phenomenal hits hip hop like he
It's like you can see you can see how much
Kid Frost loved hip hop by the way his son loves.

Speaker 6 (01:58:21):
Because it doesn't even look the same, but it's the same.

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
You get to see how real Kid Frost is from
the way his son and the way his son is.

Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
You know what I'm saying, Like he got a love.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
For the hop that that is deeper than anybody I've seen.
You know what I'm saying, Alchemists like that level of
you know what I'm saying, being into into the hop.
You know what I'm saying, Like like alchemists man like.
And then that's another dude, Like I knew when he
was when he was running around the hooligans, you know
what I'm saying, Like seeing him in.

Speaker 1 (01:58:56):
The main he was back.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
I don't know bugget, but he was.

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
Then Alchemist was never good. He was.

Speaker 2 (01:59:09):
Man robbing good man. He took a shot at me,
So I gotta take.

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
My brother by the way, by the way, one of
the greatest produces all the time, my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
Yeah, one of the others. Yes, man, my brother.

Speaker 9 (01:59:22):
Man, you took a shot. No one even told you
to a shout the yeah, I want to leave us.
Don't hit The whole time this was drink don't hold on.
I know with him, drink shamps, nigga with champions and time.

(01:59:45):
You know, he got into it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
He just have no coming, great guy with good coming.

Speaker 2 (01:59:54):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
I love that.

Speaker 15 (01:59:59):
I feel like this is you, everything is me Lauren
Hill or miss Elliot. Oh He's like, oh oh oh oh,
so many I loved it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:18):
It's like, yeah, I mean, you got, you got, you got.
You know, I can't stay in the rain, and then
you got I can't, Then you got.

Speaker 2 (02:00:28):
They're both really literally you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
And then you you know, you get.

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
Come on, man, So you're saying both. I'm not saying both.
I think here I need to make I need to
got to take a stand. Oh I'm gonna say I'm
gonna say.

Speaker 2 (02:00:50):
Mister, wow, I didn't see that one coming, all right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:00:55):
Even though I know the impact that that album had,
the mis Education of Lauryn Hill had on the culture.

Speaker 2 (02:01:03):
And the Fujis and the Fuji's.

Speaker 1 (02:01:04):
Because that's the only album she only hasn't technically one understands.

Speaker 6 (02:01:07):
Saying that, But I don't know. I just got to
be give the Fujis as her album as an album.

Speaker 2 (02:01:11):
No, that's a group project. That's a group project. I
get it, I get it, but it's still she's a
part of the group.

Speaker 1 (02:01:15):
No, But.

Speaker 2 (02:01:17):
The mis Education of Lauren Hill is her project, that's her.
But her catalog would be discussion.

Speaker 1 (02:01:24):
That's why I bring it up all the time, just
being honest in my opinion. I don't I don't really care.
It's the real answer.

Speaker 3 (02:01:30):
Talking about it's one album and in her group stuff. Yeah,
she she was Laurence Hill within that group. But ice
Cube was an ice cube until he was out of it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
God damn it, God damn it, God damn it. So
you wouldn't give ice Cube.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
In w either. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:01:44):
I gave it to him. He was in a group setting.
But it makes ice cube.

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
W A.

Speaker 6 (02:01:50):
You don't have ice cube, we're not disagreeing with disagree
with you and he can be right.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
Disagreement. He's like, yeah, listen, listen, it's a group thing,
you know what I'm saying. Like they are like troying,
making one movement.

Speaker 2 (02:02:11):
So you want the solo thing to show shows.

Speaker 3 (02:02:15):
You're arranged as an artist solo artists, right, that solo
project is what like, that's your representation.

Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
So mis education of Lauren Hill.

Speaker 3 (02:02:25):
Was crazy crazy It moves shift the culture like it
solidified her as as is who she is now, right,
And then you look at Missy and she's reinvented herself
like she just had one of the biggest tours ever
will but.

Speaker 2 (02:02:44):
Happened Era and Buster rhymes every morning.

Speaker 3 (02:02:48):
And also you know the way that she has, like
you know when you see in a Missy Elliott production,
you know when you see in the dancers, the court
choreography that you know what I'm saying, that the sound.

Speaker 2 (02:03:02):
That you know what I'm saying, like like that ship
is not easy to do, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:03:07):
And when you see the hard work that that's put
into that, like you have to be like, listen, you
know what I'm saying, don't I don't want to hear
about artists showing up late or doing that or doing
all that ship when when there's other artists to be
compared to that are putting in that type of effort,

Speaker 2 (02:03:24):
So that's why I got to get and she penned
a lot of music, absolutely people, and.

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
Her paying game is sick, her delivery is sick, her
work ethic is sick, her spirit is sick, her soul
is fucking the biggest life, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
Like, but now I know not to say component Reagan,
just start your career, bring to him.

Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
Shot speaking shape, okay? The Chronic or Crying two thousand
and one. Oh yeah, I'm ready to take a shot.

(02:04:11):
Oh the Chronicle Cronic two thousand and one. I mean,
I would imagine you picked. You're on both, oh one,
it's not too im Without the group, there's no solo.
I'm just saying, I'm just saying saying. I'm just I'm
just say man, I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (02:04:32):
Saying drinking it's drinkers.

Speaker 6 (02:04:34):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:04:34):
No, No, that is not the same thing.

Speaker 2 (02:04:36):
It is not the saying. It's not the I'm I'm
with he career doesn't start on here.

Speaker 1 (02:04:45):
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I'm getting to
do it again. Okay, this one I'm a last all right,
m O P or marf d Oh that's a good one.
Oh man, dance be hitting me all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:05:07):
Man, we talk all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:05:09):
You gotta do m O P exhibit Yes, yes, we
have a record with all together m O P. Yes, absolutely,
and must record too. Was Relativity, Yeah, but that merged.

Speaker 2 (02:05:27):
That's why came over to ok okay f mm hmm, man,
come on, man, fuck to.

Speaker 1 (02:05:40):
Okay. So the difference between mom D and fucking m
O P.

Speaker 3 (02:05:45):
It's look, they don't both making gun Talk records the
gangster ship, right, So one is high energy and that
delivery is super loud.

Speaker 1 (02:05:56):
M O P. Mom was more laid past.

Speaker 2 (02:05:59):
It's crazy because both doing that. Yeah, yeah, I love it.

Speaker 3 (02:06:02):
It's both hit, but it's hitting at the same kind
of level, right, thanks man, yesterday mom D.

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
Of course of the affiliation with the label mates.

Speaker 1 (02:06:13):
I got it, I got it, I got it both.

Speaker 2 (02:06:18):
Okay, just hit just hit one into it. Yeah, careful man,
I mean my l.

Speaker 1 (02:06:25):
We're taking a shot Okay, we're taking my lungs is
still in the nineties, my bad man. I'm like this
fucking ship, but hit that.

Speaker 6 (02:06:32):
That's l a wee, my man, little heroine, fucking Bible favorite.

Speaker 2 (02:06:38):
It got grocery bag. But we got it there. You
know what he said, I got in there. That's a problem.
It looked like grocery bags smoking like this.

Speaker 1 (02:06:47):
I'm sorry, man, my lungs never left nineties.

Speaker 2 (02:06:50):
I'm sorry, bro, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (02:06:51):
I'm gonna get you some previoum no, no, I'm with
the pre But you had the grenade too, right, remember, Okay,
let's just's.

Speaker 6 (02:06:58):
Move on this smoke greenade for SBI. Yeah, sorry, you
can get the next one a snoop of fifty fuck you.

Speaker 2 (02:07:08):
To you know with me. Take your shot.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
I'll take your shot. I'll catch up after this. Take
a shot.

Speaker 2 (02:07:15):
Yeah, yeah, crazy shots are always late. Brober eats your
shots like I like.

Speaker 1 (02:07:24):
Yeah, what's that you Jamie?

Speaker 2 (02:07:27):
Yeah you put some some wax or something.

Speaker 1 (02:07:30):
Yeah, that's going to tell you.

Speaker 2 (02:07:32):
Yeah, you're trying to get.

Speaker 1 (02:07:34):
Like black ash. All right, I'm an old man. I
usually smoke that to go to sleep. You know what
I'm saying, Like I ain't gonna lie. I got blunted
Sonny d B having me do hippie mood. I don't
know why. It's like him worse at hippie mood. Shot.

Speaker 2 (02:07:56):
He works for them and he makes me want to
go to sleep. It's all good. I like, I take
your ship, I go to sleep. Listen if you want
to go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (02:08:03):
Okay, what is it? Yo?

Speaker 3 (02:08:04):
Find your dosage either it's a five ten milligram. You
just find your dosage where you don't get up feeling groggy. Yeah,
I'm telling you how the best slip of your life.

Speaker 1 (02:08:13):
See, I'm a hood nigga, so I don't know five
milligrams and ten milligrams? What does that happen?

Speaker 2 (02:08:18):
It's actually.

Speaker 1 (02:08:21):
You can cut you can cut it in the gun, right,
It's everything legal cannabis. You know exactly what you're getting
at the exact dosage. And it's that way every time.
Because you can't tell the niggas milligrams. They could be
telling like milligram that means nine. But I'm looking at

(02:08:43):
my boys. Sonny DMX, what was your relationship with d MX? Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:08:48):
You know what, that's crazy? So rest some pieces? Yeah, rest.

Speaker 3 (02:09:00):
Uh d m X we we met several times. I
think we only had one real conversation. I would see
him in past, and I seen him at Ive seen
him at IVE seen him in.

Speaker 2 (02:09:14):
New York at the fuck I forget the name of
that place.

Speaker 3 (02:09:20):
It's not the Loud Event. I seen him at the
Loud Event, right, That was one of the last times
I saw it. But I've seen him a few times before.

Speaker 2 (02:09:30):
Yeah, the d o C. Yeah, I was. It was
the d o C screening in New York. Yes, oh
damn yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09:38):
And then.

Speaker 2 (02:09:41):
That's recent, right, And then we did a show.

Speaker 1 (02:09:43):
I'm trying to think of the time when I actually sat.

Speaker 2 (02:09:45):
Out with him.

Speaker 3 (02:09:47):
And it's dope because I was able to talk to
Swiss Beats and have a real conversation with him for
the first time because we just did his record together.

Speaker 2 (02:09:56):
From my album, yeah exactly, and I talked.

Speaker 3 (02:10:02):
I remember we did a show and he was on
the show, came into my chair, he came into the
trailer and we had and we had a real talk
and and it was really dope to be able to
just sit down and talk to someone who I've been
compared to from the West Coast, you know what I'm saying,
Like the.

Speaker 1 (02:10:23):
Thing. So if you did a record, cad Act, you
spoke about this with No.

Speaker 3 (02:10:29):
No, we didn't talk about doing any music together. We
just talked to each other, just being selfish, just sitting down,
just talking. And and you know, he's he was a
really like focused dude.

Speaker 10 (02:10:45):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:10:45):
He was just like really talking in a real positive manner.

Speaker 2 (02:10:49):
You know what He's deep he was.

Speaker 3 (02:10:50):
Yeah, he was a deep dude, man. And and he
did a show like his show he started with a
prayer and and uh, it just felt so genuine you
know what I'm saying. It feel like it felt like
it felt like he was like I don't know, dude,

(02:11:11):
like dude was do was really dope, you know what
I'm saying. And yeah, man, And so so when I
when I think about like how I'm you know, did
this ship with Swiss now? Man, Listen, dude, I never
want to be I wanted to be like, Okay, cool,
I'm not worth what I've done in music, you know
what I'm saying. But for me DMX and what he

(02:11:32):
represented to New York, to the world, and how deep
he was with it, man, like the Exes is with him,
you know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
I'm ex.

Speaker 2 (02:11:47):
To the Z right right right right right, yeah, but
but the dog, the dog get the X. I respect that,
all right.

Speaker 1 (02:11:56):
Moving on Buster Rhymes or Eminem. Wow, I don't write
these questions Dominicans and man, there's a lot of cocaine
over there.

Speaker 2 (02:12:07):
In my mind, I don't know. I've never actually.

Speaker 6 (02:12:09):
Said the selling to each other. Like my mind, I
think I can. Yeah, you say that's the cocaine. Say
that again, Say that again, Buster, Ryan Eminem.

Speaker 2 (02:12:17):
Bust the rhymes on.

Speaker 1 (02:12:18):
Eminem, by the way, which would probably be the illest
versus ever.

Speaker 2 (02:12:24):
Well they got they got records together and like versus
like like oh no, no, I'm not versus.

Speaker 1 (02:12:34):
We're just saying, if that happened, that would become have
a McDonald's mc chicken front row.

Speaker 2 (02:12:40):
I love that you guys for that big match chicken
that you pay.

Speaker 1 (02:12:44):
That's a creepy not better than true Burgers though, true burgerd.

Speaker 2 (02:12:53):
Yeah you were missed. Oh thank you, Buster Rhymes, Eminem.

Speaker 1 (02:13:00):
We gotta take a shot, man, you know, you know
shot that's your drink, all right, all right, Jesus chunky,
Hey man, these little more fucking cups are stacking up
over here.

Speaker 2 (02:13:18):
That's why one Yeah, that's why we do little one
on six nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:13:29):
Goddamn.

Speaker 2 (02:13:29):
Okay, let me take this one. God he loves this ship.
Go ahead, you know I love it.

Speaker 1 (02:13:35):
Analog or digital analog. Let me just point out one thing.
Let me just point out one thing. You know. I
got a friend in head tonight. His name is Warrial Flush,
Big up to Worrial Flush. We got classic records together,

(02:13:57):
and when we met each other, his hood and my
hood wasn't vibing. But in order for his all the
records that we got together to be classic, you had
to be in that studio together. He couldn't have sent
me no record. I couldn't send him no record. That's
the reason why analog always to me, that whole era
of analog, when we had to be in the studio

(02:14:17):
together with each other, like the tape, cut the tape,
you know, doing all that.

Speaker 3 (02:14:22):
Like to me, stay in that process. How sharp you
had to be to be on the mic at that
time you couldn't. There was no take.

Speaker 2 (02:14:32):
There was you tape, There was no rewind.

Speaker 3 (02:14:36):
In order to cut something, you had to you had
to in order to punch something you had to cut
the tape recorded again, have that brought back spliced directly
so it sounds right the motherfucker who's got mad at
you making a mistake, Like you don't make a mistake
right now, You're like whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:14:52):
Yeah, But back then it was the sound.

Speaker 6 (02:15:00):
So we always go back to the Quick interview where
Quick said that he just felt that that it was
like the energy that was the magnetic energy from the vocals.
It would take the studio, would take everything into the
bike that was going on in the studio.

Speaker 1 (02:15:13):
I mean it was the energy though, like like if
we had to do a record together, like he had to,
he had to see me, has to feel me, he
had to you know what I mean. And then and
then you know that that that collaboration that would send
on the record. I think that's the reason why I
always pick a law Yeah. No, no, analog has a
warmer sound, like like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but you

(02:15:34):
got an album drop into twenty twenty five. Yes, did
dra send you that beat? Or you had to do
it together?

Speaker 2 (02:15:40):
We did it together? Okay?

Speaker 1 (02:15:41):
That that that that's that's that sound was my fucking yeah.
Look look Drake, you know disguise, you know whatever. He
could send you a beat and say, but no, whose
idea was it?

Speaker 2 (02:15:54):
For y'all? He's got to be in a room to
make sure he gets to it. I feel like Drake
does all most of his records. Yeah, yeah, you got
to be in a room.

Speaker 3 (02:16:02):
And it's a privilege to be in that room, you
know what I'm saying, Like, like, you can't come in
there fucking around. So it's all it's all fun and
games until the music come on. Then when the music
come on, niggad, what are you bringing here? Why are
you here? Like, let's make something dope, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:16:22):
And that's whas why you pick Analogue's because that face
to face camaradi is nothing like.

Speaker 3 (02:16:27):
It's nothing like feeling that agree with the speakers. Yes,
when you when you look, look, it's like alchemy. You're
creating a thought, something out of thin air of the
ether into making something that moves millions of people.

Speaker 2 (02:16:40):
You dropping guns over there, Jamie, put your guns away.

Speaker 1 (02:16:44):
It's not like a good moving millions of people.

Speaker 2 (02:16:47):
Like, there's nothing like it.

Speaker 1 (02:16:50):
You know. I knew he was answer all the questions.
I knew he's gonna ask Biggie or big L the
rest of the piece of both the lyricists in you.
It's going one way. I know you feel both of

(02:17:13):
lyricists when you let me finish, calm down. But then
the other side of you you have relations. Look that
got so I'm prepared whichever way you're going.

Speaker 2 (02:17:27):
These sounds like you leading the windows.

Speaker 1 (02:17:28):
I did not lead the witness. Did I leave the witness?

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
I didn't tell them? It sounds like this, But then
it goes like this. I like, I got.

Speaker 16 (02:17:37):
Okay, hold on, let me clear my palate with this
sleeping rake are sponsored.

Speaker 1 (02:17:54):
You know outside?

Speaker 2 (02:17:55):
Let me clear my palate.

Speaker 1 (02:17:59):
The most interesting man? Ah fuck, I'm gonna say, Biggie.
Mm hmm, let's say Biggie.

Speaker 3 (02:18:09):
Biggie, yes, right, yes, yes, I will now big L
and he left before his time.

Speaker 2 (02:18:19):
Both did the both did.

Speaker 1 (02:18:21):
But I understand what he's saying. You're right.

Speaker 2 (02:18:22):
I think Biggie gotta I got it. Got a bit further, Yeah,
of course right.

Speaker 3 (02:18:29):
I think what Biggie left on the impact of the
game raised the bar so we can have you know,
the mega stars that we have.

Speaker 1 (02:18:38):
Now you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:18:40):
He showed he opened the door and the light to
the vision of what all these mega rappers kind of
emulated and became and built a foundation for. That's so
big L to us is a hero because of his
lyricism and his ability. A lot of rappers can rap,
but not a lot of rappers have ability like something

(02:19:02):
that is like standalone, you know what I'm saying, Like
something that is like unique to them, Like you know,
big L had that. The way he flipped it and
the way his metaphors and it was being together like
that was something that can't be emulated.

Speaker 2 (02:19:22):
Or duplicated.

Speaker 3 (02:19:24):
Although people took bits of his style and made their
own as well, big L was an originator. So, but
what Biggie represented and what his style was, and how
I remember saying to myself, he makes it seem so effortless, Biggie, Biggie,

(02:19:45):
the way he put words together and his inflection and
his his delivery and his metaphors were so smart. He
had to use less words, which was fucking crazy, you
know what I'm saying, Like, like his inflection, you know
what he meant. Even when he was saying something that

(02:20:05):
seemed light hearted, it was very dark comedic, and he
was probably funny as fuck, you know what. I'm saying, like, like,
he I never met him. I met him one time.
I never met It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:20:19):
I met him one time. Guess what.

Speaker 3 (02:20:21):
I met him one time. I was friends with Ron
High Tower. Ron High Tower was just fucking porn director,
you know what I'm saying. Back in the day, right Tower,
And so I was going to drop off some weed
to him, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:20:40):
And I.

Speaker 3 (02:20:42):
Went to the spot and Biggie was there. He was
standing weird. He was look, he was standing, he was
was nothing weird.

Speaker 8 (02:20:52):
He was.

Speaker 1 (02:20:52):
He was standing on at a different time.

Speaker 3 (02:20:55):
At different times, he was standing on a patio with
a cane and he was by himself.

Speaker 2 (02:21:00):
And so I was and he was like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:21:01):
I was like, that's Biggie right there. I didn't go
talk to him, you know, I didn't go talk to
him or nothing. He was just like HEO, that's Biggie
right there. I was like, oh, ship, Okay, here's your weed.
I'm out, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:21:12):
And so you were certain bigger High Tower, High Tower. Yeah,
But I mean that's the only time I saw him
in person.

Speaker 1 (02:21:20):
You know, Wow, did you have a kuzie on? I
just saw him with a cane. Remember the cane is
close with the coosie close enough, all right, and then
I gotta take a pe piece of after this.

Speaker 2 (02:21:33):
Man, I was ready to rock and roll.

Speaker 1 (02:21:35):
Let me go. First come, it's my turn, Jackson or
Prince stories with either one.

Speaker 2 (02:21:45):
If you have Oh yes, I do have a I
have a Prince story. I have a Prince story where
we at Oh my god, pick first was actually the
Prince both nigga, I can't canning? All right, see your

(02:22:06):
story please, Okay. So I got a story of Prince. Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:22:09):
So there was there was a there was a like
a a like a some kind of big party that
was happening. Uh, Hollywood, Los Angeles. We we get in there,
we're supposed to be there. We get there kind of early.

(02:22:30):
We're got to do something that you know, probably around
twelve twelve, one o'clock. And we're sitting in this section
and so we got this booth and then we you know,
my whole team is in the booth. I'm in the
booth with Chiller, you know what I'm saying. And uh,
we see this big group of guys coming to us

(02:22:53):
and and they they're like, uh, you know you're in
you're in so so section, like what you know what
I'm saying, Like, what are you talking about? Like like,
we're here, we're supposed to be here, they told us
to be. Here's like no, this is like designed for
somebody else. And so then this nigga comes through and
like this all white mother fucking uh like this one

(02:23:16):
piece thing.

Speaker 2 (02:23:17):
You know what I'm saying. Niggas like nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:23:21):
It's like yeah, no, like it's this white one piece
and the nigga roll through and then he he's not
saying nothing to us, but I can clearly see the
niggas standing.

Speaker 2 (02:23:31):
Right there, and I'm like, oh, you know what I'm saying,
Like are we this.

Speaker 1 (02:23:39):
So so? Yeah, man, he's supposed to come in, he's
supposed to do this little thing.

Speaker 3 (02:23:43):
And nobody saying his name. No, no, nobody saying his name. Okay,
they're not saying prince, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:23:50):
And so I'm like, oh shit, okay, all right dude,
So uh hey man, let's let's.

Speaker 2 (02:23:54):
Move out to niggas way.

Speaker 1 (02:23:57):
You're not are you, Like I'm not gonna be I'm
not gonna be in the story that you know what
I'm saying behind the music as he got into a
fist fight with Prince. You know when I do with that,
like okay, yeah, out the way.

Speaker 3 (02:24:15):
You know that was the only time I saw Prince
but never met Michael Jackson A lot of my friends,
you know what I'm saying. Fred Rek had some really
funny stories about you know, him and and and producing
him with Michael Jackson.

Speaker 1 (02:24:27):
So you know you got to talk to fred Rek.
He got some funny ass stories. Okay, Lady of Rage
or the brad Lady of Rage, rough and tough with
apple puff app So fucking look, I.

Speaker 2 (02:24:42):
Don't think we need to explain that. I think that
was a one and them.

Speaker 1 (02:24:46):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:24:47):
Mt raps a rap city. Oh oh.

Speaker 1 (02:24:52):
Wait, hold on your MTV raps are rap city. Wow,
there's a lot of historic ship.

Speaker 2 (02:25:03):
That we show kind of dead and them both two
different things.

Speaker 1 (02:25:10):
Don't put that on.

Speaker 10 (02:25:12):
We want.

Speaker 2 (02:25:13):
Like like timelines, and he was like.

Speaker 1 (02:25:22):
Like two different workholes. He just put the job. I'll
with y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:25:28):
I do mean a little bit job what m t
V m t V rap rap rap rap City.

Speaker 3 (02:25:44):
There's a lot of historic ship that went down on
your TV raps when Tupac was threatening the Huge Brothers.
Just a lot of historic ship that went down on
Rap City. I was post iconic. I mean I was
on Rap c DJ gig on there.

Speaker 12 (02:26:12):
I'm gonna have to say both man, motherfuckers, I have
shot a Look, I'm gonna keep this going, bro, because.

Speaker 1 (02:26:27):
That's why I tried not to, like go to the
bathroom between the shots. See the shots hits you when
you jump up, like what I mean, like you order
the bathroom. I'll be trying to hold it down. I
can't because once I get up. But once I get.

Speaker 2 (02:26:43):
Like, he hasn't got up. Yeah, he's sober stiff when
he gets.

Speaker 1 (02:26:47):
Up, you know, because I'm drinking shots. This motherfucker drinking energy.

Speaker 2 (02:26:51):
Keep going, you guys have to catch up on your shots.
Are you ready?

Speaker 1 (02:26:57):
Boys in the Hood of Mentic Society, Boys in the
Hood or Minister Society?

Speaker 2 (02:27:13):
What the fuck is going on?

Speaker 1 (02:27:19):
One? So you didn't go to the bathroom. I gotta
wait come out the bathroom. Oh yeah you can't, yeh.

Speaker 2 (02:27:28):
Minused to society.

Speaker 1 (02:27:32):
Boys in the hood.

Speaker 2 (02:27:33):
Yeah, DJ Muggs are alchemists.

Speaker 3 (02:27:36):
Oh well, DJ Muggs because without DJ Muggs, we don't think.

Speaker 6 (02:27:42):
Yeah, because alchemist is part of So yeah, ghetto boys
are U g K ghetto boys. You rapidfire right now,
White Clifford Will, I am Well, I am Drey or
Quincy Jones, doctor Drey New York and Miami. What take

(02:28:05):
a shot New York on Miami. So I'm not getting
in the middle of that shit.

Speaker 1 (02:28:11):
We get into the whole time every day.

Speaker 2 (02:28:15):
Nigga, you know, nigga, I gotta go to New York. Yes,
you're in Miami.

Speaker 1 (02:28:22):
God damn.

Speaker 2 (02:28:24):
The South got something to say. The South got something
to say. I love all my digs.

Speaker 1 (02:28:28):
Yeah, you know it?

Speaker 2 (02:28:30):
What was fucked up?

Speaker 1 (02:28:31):
Y'all didn't even have Andre two thousand back when he
said that talking about there was in New York.

Speaker 2 (02:28:37):
I'm talking about your nigas in the South.

Speaker 1 (02:28:38):
I ain't see y'all on Twitter. Back then, there was
no Twitter exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:28:42):
It was my Space exactly. I see y'all nowhere.

Speaker 1 (02:28:46):
Everybody was like they didn't understand that moment at the time.
I get, yeah, yeah, your speech was not making sense.

Speaker 6 (02:28:55):
Eighties hip hop or nineties hip hop, nineties Jesus Christmas
nineties hip hop for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:29:01):
Podcasts of radio radio, a lot of people are really
know what the fuck they're talking about. That's true.

Speaker 1 (02:29:11):
Podcast it's a lot of opinion.

Speaker 2 (02:29:13):
I agree with you. People just getting drawn on Yeah no, no,
not just us you know this one.

Speaker 3 (02:29:21):
Yeah, but a lot of influential podcasts pump a lot
of bullshit. And it's like, is that helping and hurting
just because it's you know, but I mean, look like
people listen to what they want and people you know,
are attracted to what the messaging they want to be
attracted to.

Speaker 6 (02:29:43):
I mean there's pros and cons of both, because radio
programs and by the very definition, yeah, programs.

Speaker 1 (02:29:49):
For sure, for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:29:51):
So you got to pick your poinson right right e
forty or too short? O?

Speaker 1 (02:29:57):
Both?

Speaker 2 (02:29:59):
Oh? Ship? All right? Well me and you what the
fuck I can't do that?

Speaker 1 (02:30:05):
Come on here, I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:30:08):
Gonna let know you have the last one.

Speaker 6 (02:30:09):
But before he gets back, Oh go ahead, buddy, But well,
I take a leaky wiki.

Speaker 2 (02:30:15):
I wait for you.

Speaker 1 (02:30:16):
No, just go bro, just just three and a half.

Speaker 2 (02:30:19):
It's the very last one. I wait for you. Oh
my god.

Speaker 1 (02:30:22):
Yes, okay, I have a question.

Speaker 2 (02:30:24):
I got all the questions. Come on, but what are
we drinking?

Speaker 1 (02:30:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:30:33):
You missed a shot? There we go?

Speaker 3 (02:30:39):
Yeah, I think it was now. But I'm gonna be honest.
The question was due. I like, uh, it was e
forty or too short. I can't pick between those.

Speaker 2 (02:30:48):
I can't pick between them. But listen, we gotta we
can't be here.

Speaker 1 (02:30:52):
You fuck you and I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (02:30:55):
I'm not doing on the trip for the West Coast,
no fuck you, man. I was under strict instructions.

Speaker 1 (02:31:03):
No nigga, no, no open itga, just one all right,
I just wait for And that's why he tried to well,
we're gonna stop with this ship then okay, because nigga,
this is just throw up. Listen, nigga, you like, I
know what the funk I'm talking about this?

Speaker 2 (02:31:21):
Hold on?

Speaker 1 (02:31:21):
What did I started by saying, I study people's drink orders.

Speaker 2 (02:31:25):
You the one who ordered Hendricks gin. I was gonna
be either or nigga. I was gonna make the decision
when I got here.

Speaker 1 (02:31:35):
Oh yeah, drink. That's not how he takes it.

Speaker 2 (02:31:39):
Listen, that's how we did.

Speaker 1 (02:31:41):
I say that.

Speaker 2 (02:31:42):
I said, ask him what you want to be either old?

Speaker 6 (02:31:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:31:46):
See listen, we've been skeeping pause. We've been scheming on
you for a week and a half. We've been like, yo, listen,
he can't order both? Which one did he actually going
to drink? I came with this much. May I may
be scaring off something, you know. Come on, you know,
come here on a flight like nigga. I may not

(02:32:07):
like you know what Keeter was a bit much last night.
Let me fuck with the gin, you know, a little
mixed drink. But Nigga, you can't just have one drink, Nigga,
one drink, Nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:32:19):
You make perfect sense. No one's arguing with you. But
I'm just saying this is some.

Speaker 1 (02:32:25):
Good as ship.

Speaker 4 (02:32:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:32:26):
Absolutely, it's just that you got you gotta you gotta
limit your night.

Speaker 2 (02:32:30):
You gotta you gotta limit your night.

Speaker 1 (02:32:31):
Man for a week and a half, we said, which
one is he drinking? Because remember he said gin and
thee quila? Right, And we've been scheming this whole week
and a half. We've been hitting mister Lee, and we
told you to get specific answers. You never gave us answers.
So you gotta drink to your choice, simply your choice.
Just Jamie, can you do us a favor?

Speaker 2 (02:32:52):
Now?

Speaker 1 (02:32:52):
This is my request. If it's okay with you, absolutely
come on this chill a chilled shot man. You don't
want to chill shot, you want to go straight raw damn,
But okay, chilling, let's chill it.

Speaker 3 (02:33:07):
You never have a little splash, a little splash of soda,
splash of cranberry.

Speaker 2 (02:33:13):
Okay, definitely not doing that. That's for him. I'm gonna
I'm gonna keep it.

Speaker 1 (02:33:17):
As world as possible.

Speaker 2 (02:33:20):
Take the cranberry splashes.

Speaker 1 (02:33:22):
Man, it's just a fucking drink, all right, Fine, man,
all right, I think that Wait what.

Speaker 2 (02:33:29):
Yeah, what do you got?

Speaker 1 (02:33:30):
You got? Just be like this, no juice, You embarrassing us?
Like it looks nice, but it's not nice.

Speaker 4 (02:33:44):
I just start scratching, cleanup, cleaned up.

Speaker 1 (02:33:54):
Well it's not nice. Okay, but what you want not listen, listen,
don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (02:34:03):
Just just chill it.

Speaker 1 (02:34:04):
Just just chill it, all right.

Speaker 4 (02:34:05):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (02:34:06):
Look we got.

Speaker 1 (02:34:09):
Who's that army? Sold more play studio suck Shooters, good shooters.
I'm sorry, I don't know what the shooter is. A shooter?

Speaker 2 (02:34:22):
Get shooters shot?

Speaker 1 (02:34:27):
Yes, like an I'm gonna take a shot. You can
give them a shooters shooting my whole life. I'm okay.
I don't want to be a shooter no more.

Speaker 2 (02:34:36):
I'm bowing like that. I thinking, I take a.

Speaker 1 (02:34:43):
Yeah, y'all Lord respected. No, I know I was waiting
for you, my brother. I guess I want to take
a shot with you. This is the only do not
lead the witness, lead the witness. Loyalty or respect? Loyalty
why Wow, it's a that's fast. Loyalty is royalty, That's

(02:35:06):
it it is. It's like, I see, this is the
only time that me and E f N feel like
it's both.

Speaker 2 (02:35:13):
We'll take a shot. Yeah, so I'm gonna take a shot.

Speaker 1 (02:35:15):
I'm gonna take a shot because I feel like loyalty
respect goes hand in hand.

Speaker 3 (02:35:19):
Some people disagree with me and I respect people. Some
people respect you when it's convenient. Some people respect you
when they get something out of it. Loyalty is different.

Speaker 1 (02:35:33):
Okay, okay, we didn't actually we didn't ask the Dominican Republicans.
We'll come back to the dedication in a little while.

Speaker 3 (02:35:40):
So, so, loyalty to me is something different. That's something
you can't fake, you know what I'm saying. Like, loyalty
is something that comes from your your spirit. It's like
you do it when they in front of you, when
they're not in front of you, and you know, being
being loyal to somebody you know is different, you know

(02:36:01):
what I'm saying. So I pick loyalty out of respect
because people lose respect. What would you like both at
the same time, you respect, you don't want. I don't
give a fuck what you think about me, as long
as I know I'm being an upstanding individual. You know,
it depends on when you meet me, you know what

(02:36:21):
I'm saying. Like some people will tell you I'm the
greatest thing in the planet. Some people will tell you
I'm the worst thing that ever happened to them. Depends
on when you meet me, you know what I'm saying,
because of what our relationship is. Whenever somebody loses a fight,
they're not gonna tell you that they lost their right. Yeah,
then everything is somebody else's fault. But for me, you

(02:36:44):
know what I'm saying, Like, loyalty means that whether you know,
win or lose, Like, that's who I'm rying with and
that's what's important.

Speaker 1 (02:36:53):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:37:00):
God comes to you.

Speaker 1 (02:37:02):
And God says, man, I want you to make the
world straight.

Speaker 2 (02:37:10):
And straight.

Speaker 1 (02:37:11):
I don't mean that and like a sexual man, I
just mean.

Speaker 2 (02:37:14):
Like, you know, only no would clarify that.

Speaker 7 (02:37:20):
That that is the most dignified passe that I've ever heard.
I didn't want to react to it, but that is
the most It's only you that say that.

Speaker 2 (02:37:34):
I don't mean that sexual.

Speaker 1 (02:37:37):
I want the most that was clear. That was the
most dignified way.

Speaker 2 (02:37:42):
I don't mean a sexual.

Speaker 1 (02:37:49):
But God comes to you, I said, act the disease.
I want you to make the world walks narrow. I'm
gonna say straight and narrow. Damn, man, I can't funk
with y'all. Man, old, let me let me break the
cross question. But God comes to you and say, man,

(02:38:19):
you're gonna You're gonna humanity will be saved by this
record that you make right now.

Speaker 2 (02:38:25):
Specifically, I don't want to shoot her.

Speaker 1 (02:38:28):
He likes shooters a little bit more like under. I
wanted to under a shot.

Speaker 2 (02:38:33):
I wanted under over.

Speaker 1 (02:38:35):
Okay, But God says, extra disease. I'm gonna give you
a producer and a feature, Dad, alllive, This one song
is gonna be it. What is that producer and what
is that feature? That alllive and producer that are alive too?

(02:38:58):
Mm hmmm mm hm.

Speaker 2 (02:39:04):
Doctor Dre and Janice Choplin, are you gonna suck me?
Up like that, Doctor dre Jannis Choplin. It ends there.
You said producing artists.

Speaker 1 (02:39:25):
You can do another feature in it if you want to.

Speaker 2 (02:39:27):
That was that's it. That's the feature.

Speaker 1 (02:39:31):
You got.

Speaker 2 (02:39:31):
You got access to anybody else too. I'm just told
you don't short change yourself like the case. No, have
you heard Janis Chopplin?

Speaker 1 (02:39:42):
I don't know who then?

Speaker 8 (02:39:43):
That is.

Speaker 1 (02:39:44):
That's why I try to change the subject.

Speaker 2 (02:39:45):
Yeah, yeah, do you do you?

Speaker 1 (02:39:49):
She? Uh?

Speaker 2 (02:39:50):
She is uh she She had a very short career,
but it was but it was massive.

Speaker 3 (02:39:58):
The songs that she sang, she sang from like the
bottom of her soul, and the way that translates through
the speakers is something totally different. So do yourself a
favorite listening to some channels, job with smoke, a joint,
kick your feet up and you're gonna feel that ship.

Speaker 2 (02:40:18):
A baby, nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:40:19):
This is like fucking this is this, This is yelling, screaming, yo,
this is this is this is energy coming out of there.

Speaker 2 (02:40:32):
Yeah it's none of that.

Speaker 1 (02:40:35):
Yeah. Oh man, Jesus.

Speaker 2 (02:40:44):
Notes Janifer and Dr Drey.

Speaker 1 (02:40:47):
I would like to hear that Stevie Wonder Lightning, Richie
Lightning light Lighthouse.

Speaker 2 (02:40:59):
He's like an almost almost.

Speaker 1 (02:41:05):
Did you did you see snoop snoop things? Stevie want
Stevie wanted to be FaceTime and you know he's And
then Drake said, he said he told him to tex.

Speaker 2 (02:41:18):
Stevie wonder On, like is.

Speaker 3 (02:41:20):
Light me Richie Stevie Wonder or line on Richie the
same Nigga's not the same nigga.

Speaker 8 (02:41:28):
Light like.

Speaker 1 (02:41:31):
That Stevie.

Speaker 2 (02:41:31):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:41:33):
I'm sorry, he's the best guy.

Speaker 2 (02:41:36):
We got to make a lighting person.

Speaker 1 (02:41:39):
Uh let me see, muh man Stevie wonder Man, he's
first man Stevie Wonder. I saw that coming, right, Stevie
wonder Right. I would think Mike Loud Richie of Icon.

Speaker 2 (02:41:56):
You know, I always think who the other person would
say the present.

Speaker 1 (02:42:00):
And I think, says Stevie, you gotta reason. It's okay, No,
I just I mean just the preference. Just I Rember
growing up to listening to Stevie wonder record.

Speaker 2 (02:42:10):
If we could get Stevie on this is my dream
Stevie on Dream champ Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:42:14):
That would be that's my he would say some crazy
ass story. Wait wait, wait, wait still Chid.

Speaker 2 (02:42:21):
Okay, hold on, this is where she goes crazy because up.

Speaker 1 (02:42:26):
There we go, come on, nigga shooting this, nigga, this,
this is my we shooting. Don't shoot that. Don't shoot no, no, no, no,
okay shot Now we're not shooting.

Speaker 2 (02:42:43):
We're just sipping. All right, Go shoot it.

Speaker 1 (02:42:45):
Let'shoot.

Speaker 2 (02:42:46):
Let's shoot shoot it, shoot it, shoot it. Oh my,
that was good.

Speaker 1 (02:42:55):
But it's gonna be bad.

Speaker 2 (02:42:56):
But it's good. It's gonna be bad. But it's gonna
be bad.

Speaker 1 (02:42:59):
It's gonna be bad. It's gonna be I'm gonna throw
my promo shot right there.

Speaker 2 (02:43:08):
But like he wanted to do that.

Speaker 1 (02:43:11):
Oh ship, yeah, this is.

Speaker 2 (02:43:14):
This is this is what we're doing now. Oh my god,
you break that. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (02:43:27):
This whole chess area is on fire. Oh it's in
the pokonots okay man, you know the sweet skiing Yeah,
Golden State Warriors. Yes, rest in peace of fear?

Speaker 2 (02:43:42):
Oh yes, right. Did you guys ever intend to really
make an album?

Speaker 1 (02:43:47):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (02:43:48):
Shout out to ra I love that's my brother.

Speaker 1 (02:43:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:43:51):
So we had a deal on the table, and I
stayed with my brother rass. He didn't want to sign
a contract because sign he didn't. We stood behind him,
but he didn't want Priority to come in and take

(02:44:12):
a percentage of what.

Speaker 6 (02:44:15):
This new venture was because he had a whole beef
with that's correct deal that he's dealing with, and they.

Speaker 3 (02:44:21):
Were trying to like if he got if we did
a deal with us, Priority was asking for a percentage
of what rass Cast was supposed to perceive, and he
didn't agree with that because he felt like they were
already doing him dirty on his side of the records.
Why should they benefit off of what they had nothing
to do with being a part of Could he have

(02:44:43):
not done a pseudo name like no artists did that
ras Cast? It was exhibit rass Cast interfere however you
want to right, you can't do that, you know what
I'm saying. And that's what that's what we did, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:44:58):
But yes, we did had some records and there was
a thing in place for us to do an album together.

Speaker 2 (02:45:06):
But just the records I heard were amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:45:09):
And no, it was fun. It was fun to do it, man,
And and you know, I'm glad I was able to
go see Sofia before he passed, you.

Speaker 2 (02:45:19):
Know, And I didn't realize he was from the Bay.
I didn't know that. I never knew that. I just
thought I thought he was an l A dude. Actually, no, Oakland,
you know, west Side, and then he came up with
Digital Underground those.

Speaker 3 (02:45:32):
Guys absolutely, and then you know, he made a name
for himself the first album he ever released. Yes, no,
that's not my biological brother, but we came up together
very close. Right. So his first album is called box
Car Sessions. Do yourself a favor. Go listen to battle Trill.

(02:45:54):
That was one of the first songs I heard from
Sofia that really honed me into his voice.

Speaker 2 (02:46:00):
Is Cadence Man.

Speaker 1 (02:46:02):
Yeah he was.

Speaker 3 (02:46:04):
He was ahead of his time. Yeah, he was ahead
of his time, you know. Yeah, shout out to Sonny,
his brother. I was there with him. He rass cast
came up. You know what I'm saying. We all got
to be together.

Speaker 2 (02:46:21):
So he was in society, right he was.

Speaker 6 (02:46:24):
He was. Yeah, he was an actor and yeah, so
people that don't know his rap career they know him
from that.

Speaker 2 (02:46:31):
But yeah, he was an l MC man. Yeah he was.
He's phenomenal and part society him.

Speaker 1 (02:46:39):
He's cousin Harold, Yeah, and the house party scene, like, yeah,
he got.

Speaker 2 (02:46:43):
Shot at the stoplight. Yeah, yeah, but man, great loss.

Speaker 1 (02:46:49):
Yeah man.

Speaker 3 (02:46:50):
But you know, you know death, death is is something
that that we all know we have to deal with eventually, eventually,
all of us. But you know, when it, when it
happened to people that's really close to you and and
and really right next to you, you you realize a

(02:47:12):
few things about yourself, like your mortality and and you
know what I'm saying, where you are in the state
of things. You know, I think my brother is in
a better place. I think my brother is it's not
feeling the pain that he was feeling. And I'm glad

(02:47:32):
I got to see him before he won.

Speaker 1 (02:47:37):
And I'm glad we got the Usually at this time
you say a moment of silence.

Speaker 2 (02:47:40):
But you know, now we take a drink. We take
a drink, you know, mad drink, drink and a shot.
How about drink and a shot.

Speaker 6 (02:47:55):
But I would tell the fans out there, go and
check out all the records you guys did, whether it
was labeled Golden State Warriors or not.

Speaker 2 (02:48:03):
Just check out music. Don't worry to say that's a
that's a way to get the.

Speaker 3 (02:48:09):
Game Trigonometry from Sofia. Go listen to the album I
suggest you listen to Stay High and uh, I'm an
invest I suggest you listen to box Car sessions. Uh uh,
Battle Trio being one of them. You know, he has
a tremendous amount of music. I think Trigonometry is one

(02:48:30):
of my favorite albums from Sofia. But then listen to
you know, he created the Hoo Riders. You know what
I'm saying, his little brother, Sonny, he created the.

Speaker 2 (02:48:38):
Correct I did not know that. Absolutely, that's his little brother.

Speaker 1 (02:48:42):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:48:43):
Yeah, Sonny, I did not shot calls big that's crazy
on to the next level of the game.

Speaker 1 (02:48:53):
At all.

Speaker 2 (02:48:53):
Yeah, absolutely, wow.

Speaker 1 (02:48:56):
So let me ask you, are you still having fun?
I am.

Speaker 2 (02:49:02):
I wasn't for a long time, but I'm having fun.

Speaker 3 (02:49:07):
Like, you know, I try not to bring my personal
shit to the office, you know, I try not to
bring Yeah, no, it's not impossible, but it takes a
real effort to not bring the personal shit to the office.
I'm never the one to bleed into the public or

(02:49:29):
trying to complain or do all. You know what I'm saying, Like, listen,
like I have my outlets right and so being able
to you know, create at this level at this time
with the people that I'm still around and the people
that still fuck with me, And you know, life is funny, man,

(02:49:55):
It'll show you a way. And then you know, when
people lose faith in that way, you get disappointed into
people rather than understanding the lesson.

Speaker 8 (02:50:06):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:50:07):
And so once I started like moving away from what
people thought, man, I started creating music for me. I
started accepting things that were only healthy for me and
not really tripping off losing the people or situations or
relationships that had to time me to anything else. And

(02:50:30):
so now I'm having fun. I'm like really being able
to hone in on something that I'd love to do,
being able to do it at the level I'm doing
it at, still be able to, you know, have time
for my family where I didn't have it before. You
know what I'm saying, Like I'm picking and choosing the

(02:50:53):
things I want to do rather than doing it just
to live, You know what I'm saying. That's a whole
other thing, you know, And it happens sooner for other people,
it happens at different times for other people. But me
in this place now, the people that I'm with now,
the circle of friends I have now, the people that

(02:51:15):
I have around me in business.

Speaker 2 (02:51:17):
It feels really good, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:51:19):
Even when things are in chaos, I still feel in control,
which is something I have never felt in before.

Speaker 1 (02:51:25):
You know what i'm saying before. But I mean, that's
just life. That's for everybody, you know what I'm saying.
But so, yeah, I am having fun. I'm having fun.

Speaker 3 (02:51:34):
I'm feeling confident, I'm feeling powerful, I'm feeling like you know,
I can't wait to deliver this to y'all so I
can fucking get my shit off. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I can't wait to like just deliver this shit like live.
You know what I'm saying, Like with the band, come
and see me like, yeah, okay, you've been in one
of my shows before.

Speaker 2 (02:51:55):
You've seen this before, You've seen that.

Speaker 1 (02:51:57):
Come check me out.

Speaker 3 (02:52:01):
Time from bringing out because I'm about to funk you up.

Speaker 1 (02:52:06):
Because I feel really really strongly about what we created.
You know what I'm saying. The song you know what's
your go through songs, my go to song when you're performing?

Speaker 2 (02:52:16):
Oh ship now any any.

Speaker 1 (02:52:21):
No, because I've been performing with a band now. So
the band is a song with a DJ go to
the song with a band? Band know which which?

Speaker 2 (02:52:30):
Which?

Speaker 6 (02:52:31):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (02:52:33):
Different songs? It's the same one. Enjoy the Night? You
mean go to for him to form?

Speaker 1 (02:52:39):
You know, like you know that's that.

Speaker 2 (02:52:40):
I do a song called Enjoy the Night and it's
it's the album.

Speaker 3 (02:52:48):
Yeah, I could do it either way, but I like
dealing with the band because there's like different layers that
we can add to it.

Speaker 2 (02:52:56):
So yeah, enjoy the Night is crazy, you know what
I'm saying. With the live band.

Speaker 1 (02:52:59):
Yeah, of course that the DJ favorite one with the DJA.
The state of hip hop versus exhibit So I I
this is me being a fan boy the video. This

(02:53:20):
is what you get now when you're walking through, it
seems like it never was no take what you see
what you get?

Speaker 2 (02:53:26):
Yes, yes, it seems like it never was no cut.
Such a monumental video, bro, it's such a monumental video.

Speaker 1 (02:53:34):
It changed the world.

Speaker 2 (02:53:36):
I want to say hip hop. I don't said hip
hop earlier, but I was so much changed.

Speaker 1 (02:53:40):
It changed the world in general. It changed cinematography because hmm,
if there was a cut, I can't see it to
this day. Okay, let me tell you how we did it. Yeah,
there was thirteen cuts in what you see is what
you get. I'm not telling to continue. Yeah, man, let

(02:54:01):
them because it's smoking on my childhood.

Speaker 3 (02:54:05):
There was thirteen cuts. Thirteen I know because we made
them together. A guy named Gregory Dark was the director
for that video, and I couldn't get anybody else at
the time video directors to follow what I wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (02:54:25):
This is the idea, yes, right, scripted out correct?

Speaker 1 (02:54:29):
Okay, So Gregory Gregory Dark was a porn director, that's all.
He comes back a lot of porn going on and exhibited. Okay,
different director, the same one, right, the same one, different
different poor director Ron Tower was different. Gregory Dark is

(02:54:51):
a different porn director.

Speaker 3 (02:54:52):
So Gregory Dark was doing you know, kind of skin
flicks and whatnot and so flicks. So he was trying
to do he was trying to break into you know,
like regular stuff. So he took on the video and
so he actually came up with the sequence to do
the thirteen shots.

Speaker 2 (02:55:11):
He said, we're going to do it with wipes. So
what we did was we.

Speaker 3 (02:55:17):
We figured out we walked the we walked the path first,
we walked the path and found out cut points from
all of I don't even know if I should be
telling niggas how to do this. But we walked the
path and we showed later right right right, right right.
We kind of walked each found the perfect cut point right,

(02:55:37):
so we knew when we want to go inside and outside.
So that's how we got from inside the house outside
on the street, down the street inside. So the cut
was the cuts were like outside the house, there's one cut.
When the guy jumps out of the truck, that's one cut.

(02:56:00):
Then when we get to the other truck, when the
car passes in front of me, that's the that's the
third cut. When we get walking to the when we
walk into the place, that's the fourth cut. When I
get on the stage, that's the fifth cut. Wow, you
know what I'm saying. When when when I when I
when I come off the stage and walk past the girl,
that's the sixth cut. When Flavored Flas walks up, You
know what I'm saying, that's the seventh cut.

Speaker 2 (02:56:21):

Speaker 1 (02:56:22):
When alcoholists pull off and I turn around and I
pick up the dollar off the floor, that's the eighth cut.

Speaker 2 (02:56:27):

Speaker 1 (02:56:28):
And then when when I walk when I walk past the.

Speaker 3 (02:56:30):
Car there if you look in the back. Okay, I'm
going tell you something else. Go back and watch that
video when you look when when when I pick up
the dollar and the the guys start coming off the
roof and I start walking off of of of the UK,
walking past the police car. A guy actually gets hit

(02:56:51):
by the police car flies him in the air. You
don't see it because you're looking at me walking. But
if you look at that car, a motherfucker actually put
it there. He gets up and starts walking. That's why
we get to use it. Right, listen, listen, this is great.

Speaker 2 (02:57:08):
No, listen, listen. That wasn't real life though, right, that's
that's real life. Fuck it, fuck go listen, go look
back at the video. So we should have pulled it up.

Speaker 1 (02:57:18):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (02:57:22):
The other will call a car blowing up and so
like walking out of the store, that's thirteen it's thirteen shots.
But there's so many things.

Speaker 1 (02:57:30):
When I jump out the window, when the guy jumps
out the.

Speaker 2 (02:57:32):
Window with a box and a box tips over.

Speaker 3 (02:57:36):
The box is empty, but you don't even see that,
you know what I'm saying, Like, look at that boom
he jumps out and the box is empty. There's so
many like things in the video that you just do
pass that people just see this great video, but I'm
seeing like the things that did.

Speaker 1 (02:57:51):
It was like the Mario Brothers correct, like like you
know how Mario Brothers like you go back and look
at Mario Brothers, be like, I missed this, mushroom, I
missed this. But I'm being honest because I looked. I
really like, I was like, yo, you change how hip
hop does videos. Like it wasn't a commercial record, it

(02:58:16):
was a straight talking to your record, but then hip
hop had to deal with reality at that moment. How
you did it?

Speaker 2 (02:58:26):
You changed hip hop? Well you know that.

Speaker 3 (02:58:29):
I know you humble, yeah, but you know you got
to look, you know, you got to look at some
of the other groundbreaking videos in hip hop, like you know,
like if you look at the Far Side Drop video
when they did everything backwards.

Speaker 1 (02:58:42):
You know what I'm saying, Like, is that where your
idea came?

Speaker 2 (02:58:45):
No, No, not at all that was done before.

Speaker 1 (02:58:48):
Who I did was this is it? Which was just
that was my idea because yeah, yeah, I wanted a
one shot video all the way through, right, and so
legend I kept trying to explain it to people, and
nobody got it.

Speaker 2 (02:59:01):
But Greg can we dark? Nobody?

Speaker 3 (02:59:03):
Everybody was telling me, Oh, it's too expensive, you can't
do it, it's not going to happen. He did it,
and we did it with a very small budget.

Speaker 1 (02:59:11):
Wow. Yeah, yeah, so it was dope. You changed the
fucking game.

Speaker 2 (02:59:17):
Well, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (02:59:18):
Man that makes a noise from on the Actually, zer man,
did you ever think of hip hop would make it
this far? Like right now with our biggest debate is
Kendrick on the super Bowl? Like that's hard?

Speaker 2 (02:59:39):
I mean, got what side are you on?

Speaker 1 (02:59:41):
Yeah? The actual argument is hard?

Speaker 2 (02:59:44):
Right?

Speaker 3 (02:59:45):
No, I mean absolutely nobody knows where hip hop is going, right,
that's real.

Speaker 2 (02:59:50):
Nobody knows.

Speaker 3 (02:59:52):
You know, it may make a resurgence in some in
a way that global, it's don't even know where it's
going global, correct, globally like people have their hometown heroes
around the world.

Speaker 2 (03:00:04):
Right, So you know, I don't know where hip hop
is going.

Speaker 1 (03:00:09):
But I know, being a fifty year old genre, we
definitely made an impact and we definitely have a lot
more of growth to take place. But do I know
where it's going? I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (03:00:24):
I don't understand what happens last week, you know what
I'm saying. But I do know that the impact that
we've been able to have in hip hop is important
and that I'm glad I was able to do it
with the brothers that I was able to do it
with and the sisters that I was able to do

(03:00:44):
it with. And I can't wait to be able to
see where this goes, you know, even after I'm done
with hip hop or hip hop is done with me,
whatever comes first, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
want to see what happens after this, Like what's what's
the next chapter?

Speaker 1 (03:01:04):
What does it go?

Speaker 2 (03:01:06):
Does the Grammys, you know, become something hip that that Hammys?

Speaker 1 (03:01:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:01:13):
Do we separate genres in hip hop? Do we have
adult contemporary? Do we have do we have new artists?
Do we have It's hip hop expanding to the place
where where we can actually have different things that, you know,
like show where other people are at because even though
it's a fifty year old genre, we're seeing the things.

Speaker 1 (03:01:33):
You know what I'm saying, Like rock and roll has
been around forever, you know, punk rock has been around forever. Right,
everything is all designed and organized. Are we gonna do that?
For us or are we gonna not let them do
that for us?

Speaker 2 (03:01:46):
You know what I'm saying? Hip hop has for itself. Correct,
we can't let them do it for us?

Speaker 1 (03:01:51):
Right right?

Speaker 2 (03:01:51):
Well who's who's us? That's the deciding factor. Okay, people
that we want to tell?

Speaker 1 (03:02:01):
Wow, yind what do you want to be down with you? Man?

Speaker 2 (03:02:09):
It's nothing. I can't do that.

Speaker 1 (03:02:11):
Yeah, I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (03:02:14):
Remember your.

Speaker 1 (03:02:16):
Little bit?

Speaker 3 (03:02:17):
Nothing tell you truth, not a little bit. He don't
do it a little bit man, I mean nigga. Hey man,
look I let my sh your go.

Speaker 6 (03:02:26):
Man.

Speaker 2 (03:02:27):
Yeah, I don't give I definitely don't give a Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:02:31):
We know you'renger, but why what? Why? Why? Because I
want to be one my time. I want like a
mother ask the motherfucker? Man?

Speaker 2 (03:02:52):
Yo, is anything you want to say to your fans?
Please just get about it?

Speaker 1 (03:02:56):
Man, I love y'all.

Speaker 2 (03:02:57):
Man, hold us do one shot?

Speaker 1 (03:03:01):
That's what we'll do.

Speaker 2 (03:03:01):
One shot?

Speaker 1 (03:03:02):
Yo?

Speaker 12 (03:03:02):
Man?

Speaker 1 (03:03:04):
Are we doing at shot? Shot? Out of here? All right?

Speaker 2 (03:03:16):
To to two little gents, two little gims? What do
you mean one little jim little too little jit? Hey man,
Jimmy got us locked.

Speaker 1 (03:03:25):
Down man, man.

Speaker 2 (03:03:28):
Like ju machine?

Speaker 1 (03:03:30):
Yo yo, yo yo how dope was seeing Jimmy I
bean man, Yo, man.

Speaker 3 (03:03:35):
Yo, it's always dope to see the You know what
I'm saying, the man show up, can ask.

Speaker 2 (03:03:38):
You a question?

Speaker 6 (03:03:39):
How did you get to that front row? Because I mean,
I'm saying this out of ignorance. We just show up
and you were in the front row.

Speaker 2 (03:03:46):
Happened?

Speaker 6 (03:03:46):
Jimmy's in the front row, big boys, We're like, oh, ship,
how did that happen? We just walked in and open
Come on, man, I'm just saying this someone yo, come
through hang out.

Speaker 2 (03:04:00):
No, No, it was it was coordinated. That's that's what.

Speaker 12 (03:04:06):
I know.

Speaker 1 (03:04:06):
You literally said I love that. I was like, it
was coordinated. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:04:12):
We all came together, you know what I'm saying, Like
we all knew it was coming to that, Like we
met up, you know, got together, rolled over together. I
wanted to see the show. You know what I'm saying,
y'all y'all came out and actually killed that ship.

Speaker 8 (03:04:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (03:04:24):
Someone I'm telling you, like, listen, listen, listen, listen. I
was laughing because of how I knew. You know what
I'm saying, Like Dre don't like to don't Drey does
not like to be interviewed. So he gave y'all, yeah,
but you know, you know.

Speaker 1 (03:04:45):
How to be a nigga.

Speaker 2 (03:04:46):
So I was like, that's what I want.

Speaker 3 (03:04:48):
I don't like his laughter helps us, yo, but but
but but but y'all, y'all did a great interview with him.
And to see them two together environment and listen ten
oh man. Yeah, that was such a powerful moment.

Speaker 1 (03:05:05):
I called it gin bottle. Look.

Speaker 2 (03:05:08):
I talked to Big Boy.

Speaker 3 (03:05:09):
I was sitting right next to the Big Boy and uh,
and I was I was like, Yo, this is a
unicorn moment.

Speaker 1 (03:05:16):
It made me nervous.

Speaker 2 (03:05:17):
It was big Boy, Big Boys, a real interviewer. Yeah,
this is a unicorn. And he was there and I
was like, oh, ship, he's in the building. You know
what I'm saying, Like I look up to that shot.

Speaker 1 (03:05:28):
Yeah, okay, cool still chin, I didn't want to take it.

Speaker 2 (03:05:32):
Just shot you fucking right.

Speaker 1 (03:05:33):
We are like. I love how he always says no.
Then he thinks he's like, I got like a little
citrus way to it.

Speaker 2 (03:05:51):
Great story exhibit. Yeah I know, but.

Speaker 1 (03:05:57):
You don't know. Yeah He's like, yeah, huh, you might
have not seen a different liquor on this episode. But
now we got gin Jen on every episode, Press and
we got it, and we Gonna take a picture.

Speaker 6 (03:06:20):
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Speaker 2 (03:06:28):
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Speaker 6 (03:06:29):
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