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Speaker 1 (00:11):
He is drink Chants, motherfucking podcast. Man, he's a legendary
queens rapper. He ain't sagreed as your boy in O
R E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up
as d J E f N? Together they drink it
up with some of the biggest players, you know what
I mean? And the most.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk
drink chansy.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Days New Year, c that's it's time for drink Champions.
Drink up?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Mother?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Would it good? Be hoping to see? Is your boy
in O R E? What up is d J E
f N? And this is minnstipa crazy world podcast? Make something?
And when I tell you, I'll tell you. I swear
to God.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I literally went to New Orleans and I tried to
I tried. I tried to get with.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
With folks.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Folks told me, man, you're fucking with the wrong folks.
It's not no limit at the time.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
It's the hot boys. And I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
It was a Puerto Rican girl. She had gold fronts
in her teeth. She said, she said, she said, she said, Walter,
you're doing the wrong thing. You better go fuck with
the hot boy. You better go fuck with and I.
And what I realized was there's real niggas across the world.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Fix There's so.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Many different parts of your life that I respected the
honor that I watched, And obviously one.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Of them was when you were with the label.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
The other was when you left the label, and then
the other is when you came back to the label.
But then you did so much things. And the thing
about it is this, I came to New Orleans so
many different times. A lot of people don't know that
New Orleans has a Spanish community, so I used to come.
(02:25):
I used to come and be there. But one thing
for sure, two things for certain, the whole city.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Respect Chopper City. They whole respect be Just.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
They respect who beg represents, they respect who And you
know what I did, Man, it was so many times.
I'll try to connect. I met you at Prodigy Video.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I'll tell you that. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Part later, but I was so many times. And when
I found out that you came home, because I didn't
even realize you did.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Thirteen years, thirteen, twelve and a half, twelve and a half,
twelve and a half, thirty say thirty third eggs.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
And what I'm trying to say is I'm gonna be
honest with you.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
This might be the first time we're mister leat, we're
mister this might be the first time that we're gonna
start to show off. And I want to start to
show off by giving you your flowers, man, because you
know why, bro, one million percent you deserve your flowers.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I'm so excited, man, Like, let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Let me tell you something because when when when you
a real one wow wow dog said it's better than
a Grammy because it come from your time, man, and
it said it comes from your people.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Bro, I'm so humble, you know what I'm saying, and
just so appreciative. No, you know coming from you, who's
you know, super in this like this this, Yeah, You're
gonna make some noise for.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
How much much? But I'm not gonna hear me.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yes, they got real flowers in But let me just
tell you something, man, I gonna be hones. Has there
been anybody else I'm out in vacation for the week
and I forgot and I was like, oh ship BG
is here, And I said, no, out of anybody else
(04:34):
in this world, I'm flying back for big years enough
because a real.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Money Come on, let me get get up, and you
know what, I'm gona be honest. I'mna be honest. So
you deserve this ship.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I appreciate it in the bottom of my hub. Bro,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Man, because I'm gonna just tell you something. There's not
a lot of real rappers. There's not a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, no, it's a lot of them, you know what
I mean. You know, I mean this thing about ours
that we call hip hop, Bro, it's a lot of dudes.
There's watered down man. It's just really you know what
I'm saying, Like like.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
One of it's nice.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Crazy though, because you know, people get a little fame,
people get a little money, man, and they and they
forget where they come from, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And I ain't never been here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Like, you know, I've always you know, just been true
to myself, you know what I mean, true to you
know where I come from, and just standing on what's real, man,
you know what I mean, And that that means more
to me than anything, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So yeah, man, I'm gonna bounce.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Around a little bit, but this is one of my
favorite times when I've seen you. This is when you
left cash Money right in facts, when you left cash
Money and you just walking through chop A City and
you promoting Chopping City and you I don't feel like,
in my opinion, this is my opinion, you wasn't dissing
(06:08):
cash Money, but you were saying, Yo, I'm gonna put
together my four, my four, and you say he's another
hot boys. He's not the hot boys. And I've seen
you in the hood. I felt that shit so much
because I left. I was down with a person named Tragedy.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Tragedy was my bird man right right right right right.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And when I seen you going on your own, oh
my god, that sh that shit touched me in a
way because I was just like, damn, a lot of
us don't understand that we're from the hood and we
believe in the person that's putting us on right big fact.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And first and foremost, I just want to say, man,
like you know, slim man, they you know, they saved
my life with this music thing.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
You know what I'm saying, like speaking, you know that's
not big like you know it's deepen in rap.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You know what I'm saying with me?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know, baby and slimming and you know cash money
change my life, you know, saved my life. And you know,
at the end of the day, you know, we we
went through what we went through, and you know, I
was young, you know, wow, you know, reckless, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I made some mistakes. You know, they made some mistakes,
you know.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And as we got older, you know, and as we grew,
you know, we was able to have a conversation about
it and you know, really understand both sides, you know, perspective.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Of it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
But you when I left, you know, they know me
like I'm I'm gonna say what's on my mind? Yeah,
not because you're walking through what the you know, it's
crazy said the reason I was able to come back,
you know, to the hood like that, and the hood
(08:06):
was able to embrace me nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You're off on.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, yeah, all of us from uptown, you know, from
the three to the third seen like all of us
from the hood. But you know when when when when
we made it and when we got the you know,
the thirty million dollar tier and you know when we
was on MTV and BT and you knows and everywhere everywhere. Yeah,
(08:30):
expects like I never forgot where I came from, you
know what I mean, The same dude I was.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You know when I had one thousand dollars. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
It was the same dude I was when I got
my first million dollars, you know what I mean. So
you know when when when I walked away you know,
from the from the dollar sign, you know what I mean,
with with with pretty much nothing, you know what I mean.
I probably had a couple of hundred grand you know
what I mean, and I walked away, and I just
was like man away from say yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
(09:02):
Like you know, at the end of the day, you know,
when I was up, I was the same dude I
was when I was down, you know what I mean.
So you know, the hood embraced me and wrapped their
arms around me because they knew, you know what I mean,
that man like like I ain't never changed, you know
(09:22):
what I mean, Like I ain't never changing you. It's
a lot of dudes that, you know when when when
when they get up, you know, they get the shitting
on their homies, you know, talking to their homes reckless,
you know, get to treat me people bad. You know,
not just being the same person. You know they was
before they got on man. But I never was hire man.
(09:44):
You know what I mean. I be you know in
the bubble shop, on the block, you know, watching you know,
one ose city send you know what I'm saying, the
videos coming like you know what I'm saying. I had
appearances and you know all the whips and all that.
You know why I leave off tour and compose up,
you know, on the block, you know, just chilling because
(10:05):
that's where you know I felt comfortable a man, So
you know it was it was. It wasn't nothing man
for the for the for the hood to you know,
just wrap their homes around me. Man, because at the
end of the day, when I was up, I ain't
never forgot you know where I came.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
He's the same person, now, let me ask you because
his his his one of the parts of the story.
When I'm looking and I always start no limit and
cash money was like bloods and crips.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Right, I'm from New York.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So you gotta, you gotta, you gotta actually let me
get away with it. You gotta let me get up
because I'm outside of looking in facts. But when you
research you you say, damn begg and soldiers Slim was
damn their best friend.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Nah big facts. So but but Soldier Slim represented no limits, right.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
So I'm looking at him like because I knew this,
but as I'm researching it now, I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Saying, holy ship, this was actually what we were affiliate to.
Bloods and Crimpton Facts.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You know, Slim was originally supposed to be on Cash
Money for you because you know it's a group U
n l V. You know who signed to cash Money,
you know, like like like previously the dudes that I
(11:38):
came up under, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And you know he was featured, you know, on the
U n l V album, and you know, Slim was man.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Slim was a cold blooded gangster like for real, Like
Slim was just was, you know, different, like you know
your Magnolia. Yeah, I mean, you're not Slim Magnolia to
the Bond, you know what I mean. Slim Slim from
the Magnoia projects, you know what I mean. You know
he started, you know, on the Parkway with KLC. You
know what I mean, with the producers, the producers non
(12:09):
facts and yeah, man, Slim Slim. But but Slim had
one foot in and one foot out, you know what
I mean. So you know, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, I don't think you ever talked about this. Yeah, no, no, no, man.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But back then, like I said, you know, we were
just young niggas, you know what I'm saying. We was wild,
and I don't even think we had realized you know
how much you know, rap and music, you know, could
change our lives. Like we just was doing it for
the love of the music at the time, you know
what I mean, and just doing it for the city,
you know, representing you know where we came from, representing
(12:45):
our hoods, representing our wars and things of that nature.
But you know, slim was going back and forth the
jail for Carl Jackings and you know, the attempting murders,
murders on ribberies, you know what I'm saying, Like all
type of ship like so you know, finally you know
when when when when Slim I think Slimmy had called
his last shows, you know what I mean, And he
(13:07):
came home and you know, killc you know what I'm saying,
pulled him undy his wing and you know, no limit
was you know what I mean. He came he was
producing for no limit, no absolute absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Just Slim also had his ties to see murder no
big yeah, yeah not facts that and that came from
when he went to No Limit facts.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Okay, so how was you murders relationship because I mean
I'm outside of looking at.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Me and me and me and murder relationship came through Slim,
you know, like like you know, you know me and
because as don want to know this, yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, no,
not facts men. Murder relationship, you know, yeah, pretty much
came through Slim. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You know, after after Slimmer was murdered, you know what
I mean, And and and I understood and respect that,
you know, the relationship that that that Slim and Sea
had and then and c ended up falling on his
murder charge. And you know he reached out to me,
you know, to get on the record all your unheard
of me. You know what I mean was that when
(14:15):
you was in jail to or no, I was out,
I was out, you know, murder was in. You know
what I'm saying. He reached out to me, you know,
to get on the record. You know what I'm saying.
And I've always been a fan of no limit, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And they and they whole movements want to hear that
even said that, yeah, not facts, and he even said
it was mutual respect.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Okay, Like if if you really do your history and
your homework, like you, you would know that Mac was
on my first Chapter City album, Like like Mac is
my brother like me and Max, you know, grew up
together or mea X is like a you know, big
sister to me, Like you know, we go back twenty
(14:57):
twenty five years. You know what I'm saying, fiend, You
know we used to live like a block away from
each other, you know, when I was in elementary school,
like you know, I got tied to a bunch of autists.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
You know, on no limit.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Like I mean, the city is small, it's kind of
big small see the city smaller than y'all.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
But to us, we see Calio, We see Magnolia.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Think listening all les in like a full five block ragees,
you know the Calio right here, Magno, you're right here
mill for me, right here at wall, right here in
the seventeen war, like right back here, so and it's
all uptown, but man, all that ship fire ten minutes
away from each other okay, so.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Let me just tell you as a New York pop
and you now it's my friend brother.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I don't know how you looked at it, about looking
at it, looking at it, but we thought like calio a.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Magnola, Hell no, that's that's five yall. And if you
know the cuts in the streets in the I'm saying, yeah,
giving a jump up my family.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You right there the project. You know what I'm saying,
From rum project to the next in like five minutes.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Wow, no bee fax b fa big. I'm gonna give
you a story. I went to try to do a
record with No Limit. I couldn't reach them.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Kill kill brother in law, my brother in law. So
I went to the w hotel that right right in
the CBD right, I know exactly what you are.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
And it's the Puerto Rican girl. And she came to
me and she said, no limit, not the ship, no more.
And I said what And she said you better go
fuck with the cash money boys. And I said okay,
and I reached out the baby. That's why I me
(17:06):
and baby to this day it's cool. And Baby said
you sure you won't fuck with us? I said, yeah,
you know, you know, I know you know, I know,
so I said yeah, and it was Juvie. So all right,
So let me just tell you something. A lot of
people think that jay Z worked with Juvie.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
First, this is.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Donking You're gonna do it to nineteen ninety nine on
my album and the baby said to me, fuck with
my niggas, and he introduced me to you, introduced me
to Juvie.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
The only person I didn't understand was little Wayne. I couldn't.
I couldn't get it at that time. He was so young,
right right, I can get it, but I want to.
I want to. I want to go to go to there.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I look at I watched your documentaries. You had about
three or four documentaries. I'm I'm sitting there like this,
so I forgot bird Man's brother that passed away past.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Eld Okay, So I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
And and I'm gonna be honest with you. I want
I want you to answer me honestly too. I know
you are because you don't you don't know how to
be fake.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
But when I watched that ship and I'm talking about
this is skinny BG and I'm so happy I'm watching you.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
But what do you think that you were happy because
this was your first time getting out the hood, or
you were just happy because this is.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
The first opportunity you had. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I mean, I ain't even lie like like like like
you know, before we even got the deal, like you know,
we had been you know, had to sout on lock
and you know, being getting money and you know, been
doing everywhere fopping bottles and you know, doing our thing.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I just I think I was just most so happy
that like like like damn, like we've like man, because
when you come from the hood, like you really can't
see past the hood for real, you know what I mean?
Like and I never in my wireless dreams, you know
what the thought that we would have reached, you know,
(19:46):
the levels of success that we was able to reach.
And you know, for Wayne, you know, be the golden
you know, for cash, money to ben in, you know,
to find the whole era and you know, for the
cash and a brand that just be as big as
it is. And you know, for Juvenile to still be
getting pleaques from four hundred degrees like twenty five years later,
(20:09):
like you know what I mean, Just you know, for
me to have a word and addictionary like bling gleaning
like like like like like like bro like man, bro
coming from where I come from. Bro, like you don't
bro like you came see past twenty five for real?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Like drink drink you got I gotta have a drink.
I can't tell. I'm gonna be honest with you, man,
So I'm gonna be honest with you. Was having fun.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Bro, I'm gonna be honest with you. Let me give
your flowers. I've seen hood niggas make it before, but
I'm gonna be honest with you. I've never seen hood
niggas make it like y'all. No drink facts, man, And
I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna be honest
with you. When you came home, I want to ask
(21:05):
you about this, but I'm asking about this later. Okay,
you made a disrecord towards cash money. Yeah, and it's
the first time I ever in my life seen a
person make a disc record and get a pass for it.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Was like the nigt ald.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You understand hey man, listen, no response. No, I'm just
because when you write your right when you want, you
know what I mean. So you know at the end
of the day, man, Like I say man.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Brother bros. No, like man just will be tripping man
like like that, like they know you know what I'm saying.
Like when I get in my feelings, I spans out,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Because I believe T was on here and you was like, man,
turk ship just just to everybody shut up to It's
(22:15):
not like family talk. You know what. That's family. That's family.
Everything ain't for everybody, but what is it? You have
to get that off your chair? Absolutely? I did.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Absolutely I had to get that off my chest, you
know what I mean. And you know niggas understanding like
like like like you know we we didn't talked about it,
and you know.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
We had a meeting about it. It was like this nigga.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Shooting and everybody and they cool with it because I'm like,
oh man, I know bird Man.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I know man, No man man, Birdman raised me. Bro.
You know I love it like like you know that
that's that's like a father figure to me. You know
what I'm saying. Him and Slim You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I got the most loved from you know, the love
you know, respect for him, like you know, it's don't
always be like that, you know, what I'm saying. But
you know, sometimes like you know, Ship, you know what
I mean. You know, we laugh about it, we joke
about it, but on.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
A private plane, you know what I'm saying, not joking
about it.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Brost. Even even after that, I'm gonna be like, bitchla
bit you bitch. You know you do, come on around,
Come on, I don't don't do me that.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
It's me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
No, don't, don't you know what I'm saying. But you know,
at the end of the day, man, it's just deepen
in rap man, you know what I mean. It is
deeper than rap man and the love and respect you
know what I'm saying, gone, gone, gonna always be there,
you know what I'm saying. But you know, like you know,
in the boot and and you know in the studio,
you know what I mean, you know, you just getting
(23:59):
him emotions out and just getting them feelings out, and
you know, speaking from the hall like you know, Ship,
just come out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
You know, I just you know saying sometimes it's just
come out, man.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And you know, but at the end of the day, man,
you know, I'm always be you know, like like like
you know, you know, I live in and breathe. You
know what I'm saying for Chapel City, man, But you know,
cares money gonna always be my home.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And I know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I love this, But do you realize, like when it
comes to the real nigga category and I don't don't,
I don't even want to use the word nigga, right
but real Yeah, it's Tupac d m X and then
it's BG.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Man, that's a hell of a line up. You know.
I like Nona, That's that's that's but what I'm saying, you.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Realize that, you realize. I was like, like, I let
me tell you something. I love you, man, I love
I love who you represent. I love I love, I
love who you are. And it was a blessing for
me to just go and reiterate your your yeah, your category,
(25:19):
your category.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
And I just kept looking and I was just like, damn.
I just kept telling my son, my son.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Is right there, he's my son, and yeah, right there,
and I just kept telling him. I was like, yo, man,
I kind of don't admire any other rappers, but I.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
My you come on, bro, don't do me the Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Know that's the That's the reason why bird Man is
telling you, lawyer, because he I told bird Man, I said, yo, man,
when when y'all was at the outs, I never had
an opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Right right right right right right right, yes to make
it right, not big facts, and Slim. I told him
to Slim and he knew like back then, like you know,
I was like, you know, just a young you know,
rebellious you know child, right, you know what I'm saying.
That's why he never answered me or never you know, responded,
(26:15):
you know what I mean, because I'm talking about you know,
when my mama house was a stash house. You know
what I mean, you know back in the eighties, you
know what I mean. Like like but we go way back,
you know what I mean, So you know the the
like he's.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Just I guess he just looked at it like, man,
that's my just young, wild, reckless, rebellious child.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
And I ain't even much gonna you heard that much
Just let him you know what I'm saying, And I ain't.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Even gonna answer. You heard me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Let me ask you that's just as a person like
I I just told you Trash put me on Trash
just like my bird man, right, And it was a
certain point where where Trash did something where I was
just like, man.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I can't I can't forgive this. And I made it.
I made a dis record.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
He made it this record, right, I regret it one
maybe this is me. Yeah, I'm not saying the usually
regret it. But what was the breaking point where you
felt like damn? Was it when you was in jail
or was it when you came home? What far as
what like as far as like damn, man, let me
let me say something, Let me get this off my chest.
(27:28):
Like how we speaking earlier?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
You mean like just before he Yeah, that was weird.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Cloud because I said that in the documentary.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Because I left Cashman. It was two thousand and two,
two thousand and three, you know what I mean. So
I ain't going to jail to you know, two thousand eleven,
you know what I mean. But I think I think
the I think I think our first time really you know,
just just is it is when his little sister Tamarra
(28:01):
died in a call wreck in a carrect.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
You know what I'm saying, God blessed tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You know what I mean, like, may she rest in peace,
you know what I'm saying. But I think she died
in a car wrect in like two thousand and seven,
you know what I mean. And you know, me and
Mora was like the same age, you know what I mean,
like reached out to him and me and Myra grew
up together. You know, that was like a sister to me,
Like that was my sister, you know what I mean.
(28:26):
And you know, just as much as I knew it
was hurting him, you know, it was hurting me. And
one night or he was on the radio or with
Q ninety three, you know what I mean, with with
Wild Wayne Man shout out to Wild Wayne, and I
heard him on the radio and I called in, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
And I called in Live Man and Wild Wayne plug,
you know, both us in on the air together, you
know what I mean. And I just let him know
you know that that you know, I love him, you
know what, I was sorry for his loss, you know,
blah blah blah blah blah. You know, this, this, that
and the other.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
And then that's you know, when we started, you know,
just just you know, mending you know the relationship and
and and just you know, just really just forgiving each
other for everything that it happened, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
But yeah, it was. It was that.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
The first time that I remember is yeah, when Somemoy
died in a car crash.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Let me just tell you something, And I'm gonna tell
you something that no one wants to tell you.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Roph Wrilers hmmm, Rockefeller, uh uh, I don't. I don't
even remember any other crews but with I don't even
know if I'm a part of this crew.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
But the fact when cash Money got back together, that
was the best thing we've ever seen hip hop.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, you gotta remember, we seen when y'all was at
the top, no big face, big face, and then we've
seen y'all, y'all lose. I mean y'all, y'all, y'all do it. Yeah, y'all,
y'all go down.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
And then we had the Turk thing and and Turk
said that was wearing fake watches.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I didn't know what did you saw that? Because yeah,
I say that, man, we ain't even anymore. Yeah, let
me just tell you something.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I'm gonna just say something as an outside of looking
at the inside of looking.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
At when y'all got this ship together.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
We all all industry motherfuckers is looking like damn we
wish we could be y'all. Oh, yes, come on, you
don't think as much that you don't think rocket fellow
on this bird here, let's go.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Goddamn got done? What's up? What's wrong? Bro?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Man?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I man, I'm live on myself not to hear you.
You know, you know I love you very man. Okay,
come on, you know me and you got a different relationship.
Were good. We will talk, oh ship yo.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You know we're giving were giving b his flowers tremendously
he needs, he had.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
He did it, he did it the right way, so
we got him, all right. My brother, my brother, my brother.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Hey, Hey, okay, I'm look, I'm gonna his shtone that finished, alright?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Love all right? So I just want to be honest
because you living in the moment.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
That you might not understand what you're doing. The most
historical shit that toll that y'all doing right now? Yeah,
what are y'all living in right now? After all these
years later? Nah?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Man, I ain't even gonna lie. Historical shit? Yeah nah,
it really, I mean, it's it's humbling, you know what
I mean to me? Right? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
But it's just really because for real, for real, when
I got that fourteen year sentence, bro, I thought it
was over fourteen years, you know what I'm saying. Them
people gave me fourteen years, one hundred and sixty eight months,
you know what I mean. And you know when they
when they gave me all that time, bro, I really
thought it was old. Like I thought they closed the
curtains on me, you know what I mean. Like, you know,
(32:50):
it's hard to remain relevant and it's rap thing.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
You know, for a month. Do you know who was
the rappers that reached out to you? Yeah, Bullshi helped
me down.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Man, walking all the way to the dough t I,
you know what I mean, Like my man may know
you know what I'm saying, bird Man, you know what
I mean. But absolutely that's my brother. May know, may
know like this ill man, we go all the way back,
you know what I mean? But yeah, man, like like,
but for real, for real, I couldn't see that for
(33:23):
you know, I mean you know what I mean, Like,
I really couldn't see that for man.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And it took you know, maybe like maybe like five,
you know, six years into my sentence to the bitch.
You know that that that I started feeling like, damn man,
like you know, I might got another shot at it,
you know with the Yeah, I thought you could kind
of once you get over the hump, you know you
(33:48):
could pretty much you don't see the end and know
how you're gonna walk it down, you know, with social
media and Instagram and you know all the different platforms
that's out here now, you know that you could just
stay active on, stay connected.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
And music in there, you know what I mean? No, nah, man,
Like I mean recorded music. Man, see all these people
recorded with them.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Them people pulled me up when I first got in
there and told me, you know that if I get caught,
if you know, rapping on the phone or doing anything.
You know what I'm saying. It was with me on
twenty three one, you know what I'm saying, Like you man,
them people was on me out. I said, like they
(34:35):
wasn't having it, you know what I mean. You know
I didn't been caught, you know, with knives and cell
phones and you know, different ship. But I never tried
them like that, you know what I mean, because I
already knew, you know, and in the phase is different,
you know what I mean like anything that you know
they was nah, yeah, I was in a phase.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah. So if it's anything you know that that that
that you could make money off of or you know
you could man, man a faith, don't play like that.
Yeah yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, like like
they ain't going for it, you know what I mean?
So you know, but but but like I was saying, man,
(35:14):
in the beginning, I was a little bitter, you know,
I was. I was because I was I was to
ask you, why was you better? Because I felt like
I was over sentenced. Yeah okay, okay, yeah, I just
felt like because hopeless, I was over sentenced. Yeah, man,
because you know I have seen you know, t I
(35:36):
get a year a day, and you know, Gucci get
three years, and you know Beanie you know got a
year and the like all these dudes had you like
what the face I had gotta charge, you know what
I mean, and ain't got you know, these slaps on
the risks.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Even got Wesa got a year to be in New York.
It was state, but it was a year of the day.
So I'm like, Ship, I'm a rapper too, you want
the red, let me get the repeal, man, you know
what I mean, but crazy crazy to some man. They
(36:12):
smacked me over the head. Man. You hear me with
the with the home and the clown Jones. You know
what I'm saying. Don't play that what you don't know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
In case you don't know, I'm gonna be honest with you.
You have probably the most support on the streets. You
probably didn't see it. Your people probably saw it. Yeah,
your people saw it, but you probably didn't want to
hear it. They call you like they got your back.
Not yet, no, no, no, fast fast Now.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I was I was seeing it. I was hearing about it,
you know what I'm saying, And I was feeling it.
But I ain't gonna lie. Bro.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
The fans like like like, man, the fans was incredible
on my bed man, You're like, I used to get
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of letters, you know what
I mean from fans just telling me.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
You know, keep your head up. You know we wish you,
you know, stay focused.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
We can't wait till you get home, like you know,
sending me calls, pictures and like like that's that that alone,
you know, kept me motivated, you know, what I mean.
I used to get more love from fans than motherfuckers
that you know I knew on the streets, you know
what I mean, Like the fans was was so supportive.
So I'm always you know, just appreciate the fans and
(37:29):
just had love for them, you know, for the love
that they had for me doing my bed.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Man. Well, let me just tell you something.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
We've been doing this for nine years, right, nine years, algorithms,
and when I just tweeted out, we got BG.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Let me just tell you something, litle.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Fans.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I'm just being honest. Tweet I said, this is too
much to call y'all.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
I call y'all listen here for you know, I'm making
my flights. I may anybody else, I would have been
like you know what I mean, would have I would
have would I would have been like, man, fuck that.
But you know what this is one man percent something.
(38:26):
I'm gonna be honest with you. Bro, you really deserve
your flowers, man, not just here, but in real life.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, I didn't put my work in, bro, you I
didn't put my work in and I ain't finished. You
heard me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I got a lot more, you know, what I'm saying
to contribute man to the culture.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
So you know I'm just glad man and I'm three.
You know that I got another shot at it man
and and and yeah, man, I'm a rep man' a
rep man for the real man.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
So let me ask you bird Man was not sleep
on stage? Nah, they said he was reading something. Yeah,
all right, so you come over.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
You did Arena day, you know when the right and
they had a set list tape, you know, to the
floor and and and the uh the list of songs
and you know you let me looking at you know,
you know what I'm saying. He's reading, seeing what's coming
up next. He just gotta call from a band he
(39:25):
got from a bad angle. And then on some you know,
just you know, to work even you know, some white
me down. You know, it's just on some you know
what I'm saying, came out to work. But it looks funny.
But nah, round wasn't sleep, bro. You know what I'm saying,
Like Rown the ain't never did a hard drug. Yeah man,
(39:47):
you know what I'm saying. He used to be on us.
I had seen ship on the internet about him being
on Fennel and being and we had a good laugh
about it, like we joiced off here. You know what
I'm saying. I chill stuff him like we jsed off
each other. But yeah, now he was reading the song.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
List, okay, because I'm gonna be honest with you, it
looked like it was finally your time to be the
big homies.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
It looked like like little things. Because it looked like
little it was like, let's gold niggah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
And this ain't me just trying to clean it up.
I'm just being one hundred percent real with it.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
He was reading the song list, man, because I have
to gaze down there at times because the show probably
an hour damn the two hours for really, you know
what I'm saying. We got the first cash Money set,
Bam and Wayne come out, then Bam and Wayne bring
us back out, you know for the Hot Boys set,
you know what I mean. So it's it's you know
what I'm saying, by the time, probably like a two
(40:53):
hour set, you know what I mean. So you know
it's it's yeah, man, like like and motherfuckers just be
trying to make you.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I know what's coming up next, you know what I'm saying,
So I can be on point and I think you yeah,
I know and if you like that, you know what
I mean? Yeah, when you look at it, and they got.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
A teleprompter right, just they got the teleprompter, but then
you got the list, you know what I'm saying, tape
to the floor. So it's like five sheets with all
the something with probably about ten songs on each, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
She and you know, Ron just got caught up reading
the list, bro, and it's just like the probably with
some ship, you know what I'm saying. So nah, but
it's all great though, man about nothing. It's like like
like you know, he.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Ain't tripping you, like, oh, press is good, presspping the
the arena, still selling out what I'm saying, And we're
gonna keep getting this.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Bag and it is what it is that's makes a
noise for that. We're gonna play a game you want
to explain, Well, we're gonna bring a who's drinking over here?
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Okay, because he's not drinking? Nah, I got this let Yeah,
so who is your designated drinker? You've gotta have somebody
from New Aumans that's.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Your native rain from that and oh damn, none of
my niggas ring?
Speaker 7 (42:22):
Are you sonny deal man speak boy black, Come on
b b W Chomas City.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Just want to drink about Charlie Magnolia gainst the right ship.
Yes you heard the peak fags, peak fags. I'm not
gonna lie to you. Me going to Magnolia might have
been the illest thing I've ever witnessed. Well, this is
the Magnolia legend right here, I never seen.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
And it is like Magnolia Magno, dear friend, he went
to the old Magnolia too.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
I went to the middle of the world. They call
it what the middle of the world, the middle of
the world. I agree.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
And then I went I went to the N eight
magn I went to that. Now I went to seven seven.
I was like, and then I went to murdered.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
From I went to the count and I said, why.
Speaker 8 (43:31):
Here, okay, so you're going to drink. Yeah, okay, okay,
I said, we're ready. Who got the I got the questions?
All right, So we're going to give you two choices. Okay,
if you pick one, we're not drinking. But if you
don't pick, we drinking.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
This is this is the first question. So this is
me and him for you, right, you know we want stories.
It's really about bringing up any let's get okay, I
(44:11):
picked one we drinking. Tell us a story if you
have if you have one with them, if you think
we're not drinking though, So.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
I'm gonna ask the first one because I definitely let me,
let me just say it. And then and then I said,
soldier Slim or Tupac. Definitely want a soldier Slim stories?
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Okay, so just slim, you know what I'm saying, Like,
you know, at the end of the day, man, you know,
you know, soldier Slim like our New Orleans Tupac. Man,
you know that is the New Orleans too.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Now big facts, like you know, one of the one
of the realist niggas they ever done it.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
You know what I mean? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
You know, when it comes down up, I got a
million you know what I'm saying, Soldier Slim stories.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
But but but you know what I mean, Like, was
he supposed to do an album cover? Okay, okay, it
ended up getting lead man, you know, like it was
unofficial when it came.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Up and we had just finished recording it. Man, And
when he got killed, it was in his Cadillac truck. Right,
you know what I mean. So, yeah, he was listening
to it. It was on the you know, back then
we had CDs or whatever, you know what I'm saying,
So this was literally in his CD player, right. So
when he jumped out the truck, he left the car
(45:25):
door open, and the truck ended up being part of
the crime scene. So they ended up toring his truck
to the motherfucking Pound, you know, to the police whatever.
And you know, somebody from there stole the disc, you know,
and not a man.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Whoever stole the truck out the police Pound ended up
leaking it, bro And next thing, you know, that spreading
like wildfire. Man, that's crazy. Fucked our whole bag up,
you know what I mean. But yeah, man, I was
about to make some noise for that. But then but
(46:06):
it's cool though, because you know a lot of people
don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
We still got some we still gotta because I'm gonna
go back in there and retouch that showing up a
little bit. And then it's some unreleased songs you know
that we have. So I'm gonna still put out a
beach in Soldier Slim album, you know, somewhere in the
in the in the future, man.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
And would that be on Chopper City Records or would
that be on.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
That would be on Cutthroat, you know what I'm saying,
because you know, his mama lives soldiers to him, you know,
live peaches. You know they still running cut through Committee,
so it would definitely be a shrink.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
A lot of y'all ain't understanding what he's just saying,
like he making sure he taking care of yah.
Speaker 9 (46:50):
Yeah, ain't a lot of niggas listen, trust me, I'm
taking a shot.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
I'm taking Okay, next, juvenile Wayne, take a shot, I'm saying.
But but but you see itself? Man, where is it
the goal? Man? Both drinking? No facts? Okay, okay, we're
still drinking, but we're drinking. Jay z d m X
(47:21):
uh d m X tell us why oh man, Bro
d MX just different, Bro that that braw you know,
toward him and that's when it was that tour.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
You know, DMX just remind me of me, Bro, because
you know it's crazy. I could have easily been d
m X story, you know what I mean, Like, you
know I didn't o d before, you know, woke up
in the hospital. You know, tools all let me and
the whole nine yours. But you know, I mean, I
relate to jay Z one hundred percent. But man X
(47:58):
just bro he the whole world balking, like you know
what I'm saying. X just X just bro X just
bro X just gotta the man. You feel his pain
through now? You feeling pain through music?
Speaker 10 (48:14):
You heard me?
Speaker 1 (48:14):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Like, yeah, Bo, I'm gonna go, ex Bro and there
there's no Shade that Sha I love she like, I'm
a super Shade fan.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
But I'm gonna go, ex Bro. I gotta go. And
what day you was wing? September September third, nineteen eighty Okay,
I guess what they Soldier Slimmer is born or September ninth,
guess what they? I'm on September six the big Urgo
Vice so you I'm the sixth and the Sniggers the
(48:45):
night we got recording, we gotta.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Because I'm just looking like we don't bring out the
Spanish community, don't bring out you know my.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Let's get it. We like in not Burprig's just it's
no official and that's what it is now. Yeah, I'm
talking to sweatshists coming out.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you also need doing this one. Okay,
my bad? What is this bird man? Domester p man? Really?
Who these questions coming like the Dominican come up in murder?
(49:48):
I gotta go with the broadered tea. Man, you heard
me like, man, I'm like, man, I shout out heard
man free seam Man.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
I'm like, I love, I love fat yeare loyalty man,
I love he got shaky for a second, but I
love the fact that all you're all picked it up
together that you know what, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
That's beautiful. I'm sorry, So let's get it. Fiender currency
oh man, you look, you can take a shot. That's
why you're here. I got your back. Drink now for
(50:37):
real because I'm I'm a Fiend fan and I'm a
Courrency fan like both of them. My bruise, you hear me.
You a new all this nigga. Let's just be damn bro.
That's you like Brooklyn nigga. Man a, Man, I got
(51:07):
the go Fiend bro, you know I got I got there,
I got the fen man. Let me tell you. He hey,
me and Fiend go way big like jumping right. And
he was also all the limit.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yes, okay, fags Comersy was on cash money. You know
what I'm saying, big facts, man, both of them, the
bros Man me and Comversy, me and fiendis just wrapped
meta fact feen on my newel' freeom speech. I'm saying,
we just wrapped the video together about two weeks ago.
And men Curmersy. You know what I'm saying, we just
wrapped a video about a month or two ago, you
(51:46):
know what I meaning? So man, both of them, my bros.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
I love them.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Broke man, they broke for as the motherfucker, you know
what I'm saying. So, yeah, so I gotta ask, like
this is this is for me? Yeah, I said a
New Yorker. We thought that you can't be cool with
no limit and cash money. That's what we thought.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
No, I'm just being honest, right, what's wrong? I mean
there might have been a time that that could be
true though, Yeah, yeah it was. It was at one point.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
It was a time where you you definitely had to
pick a side, right, you know what I mean, especially
in the city, right, You know what I mean, because
it was a lot of street politics involved.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
It was, you know, because you know they had an answer, Ragia.
You know, super goons and super killers around them, and
you know we had an answer, Ragia of super goons
and super killers around us. They really know, and you know,
(52:47):
and it was real street beef involved like you know
where it was you know, bloodshed like you know, like
doing the you know, the mid nineties and you know
all that, so you know that she could have got
dangerous like that. She was, you know dangerous, So we
(53:08):
kind of you know, yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
So I mean I mean at that time, because you
not work with a no limit artist. I mean, now
we wasn't I mean yeah, back back then in the
beginning night, well and wasn't. Wasn't you know what I'm.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Saying, Like even though you know we had our relationships
you know me like I said, yeah, we had our
relationship on the side, but just you know, just you
know what I mean. I mean, I think you know,
you know, baby got a big super ego. You know,
he got a big super ego.
Speaker 5 (53:40):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
And you know, even if we wanted to together, Jim
Niggas wouldn't have clear that ship, like you know, I mean.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
The answered the same not really, no, it wasn't. But
but now though it's it's more, you know, a friendlier vibe.
Niggas then grew up. You know, niggas don't evolve like
you know, niggas on some you know, just just some
grown up ship like and and and yeah, it's a
(54:16):
whole different vibe now. But but back then though, it
wasn't safe.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
It wasn't. Yeah, no, it wouldn't. It wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
So let me ask you a personal question. Would you
had one to change that back then? Like if there
was a person you wanted to work with, it.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Was Sodial Slim so just Mac mia X. Uh yeah, man,
uh Soldier Slim mac mia X. You know, I miser
you know what I'm saying. But but Soldier Slim Mac
and me X you want to Yeah, that that would
have been the top three, you know what I mean?
That that I would have wanted to work with and
(54:55):
you couldn't at that time. And yeah, now we wasn't.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Even it wasn't nobody like, it wasn't heavy, it wasn't
even what he said, this his face, that's real, that's.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
For real, that's lawyeral T.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
Though I'm be honest with you, I worked with cash
money very early on big Face and y'all all came
to the studio together and you're all left the studio
together now and.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Our respect, you know, to.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
Be honest with you, It's the first time I realized
that you could put five pieces of pork on pizza.
These niggas had ham bacon.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
Old. I was like, damn how.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
And I'm looking at fabulous and fabulous like yo, man,
Little Wayne came to my studio session and he did
a hundred one hundred thousand dollars worth with bottles and
he left.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
I was like, damn, nigga, he ain't do that to me.
But the niggas the old a lot of booking. Okay,
come on, let's get it. Four hundred degrees of the
carter m man. Yeah, we try. We're trying to get
(56:36):
your own. Try both of them showing this clan tell
you them dying said let me go to the next
(57:02):
I want.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
You.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
But I'm like, damn, we like bro, that's a whole
pill of swimming right yeah, yeah, no, y man, come one,
le let's go.
Speaker 10 (57:19):
Jada kissing, nos, Jada kiss man kiss man kissing kissing.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
My time I did alive, man, Okay, I'm taking a
shot for that. You know what I mean, I'm not
supposed to write, man, man kissing, I did whatever I want.
That's hey, who been fucking with kiss Man out? Man?
That isn't it? Man? What really ship? Yeah? Yeah kiss
(57:50):
one of the hardest niggas. I just want to get
this nigga drunk again. I want to get drunk. You
you bigger much. You want to get drunk.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
That means I get I'm getting right or something. When y'all,
when y'all ain't got top that jone, you ain't got
to say nothing.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
He's ready. I'm ready for him, Shauna. Oh yeah, we
need me a man. Yeah, we need the lesson. Yeah,
but mea Ax is a legend.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
She's a little one of the you know what I'm saying,
Like I'm telling she come up in that you know
that Missy you know or Eve? She could know that
whole ever right there, females when they was really you
heard me, when it was really rapping, when it was
really yeah, no, man asked the truth man, you know,
I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
He knows his hip hop. It is exactly correct.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
Rough Riders of Rockefeller, y'all was on towards them both.
They be very careful with your man. Want to drink
and I want to drink too.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
Hey, hey, hey, don't do it, think about watching. Be
careful all the United come. I got to come on man,
rest of frees eggs and I gotta go with I
got I love this, I love you know what I'm man,
I got y'all, I got y'all. Got with the Riders, man,
(59:31):
you know what I mean. So we should drink, drink
big bags, big fags. And he was on tour wax yeah, absolutely,
man like like cats man of Rough Riders to me,
you know jewelrye weezy, you know how boys big timers
d m Ax Eve the live.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
Drag on Swiss like I'm two dates to that. You
know I'm talking about when when I say stay, you
know we we we we we I think I think
throught it off in in in New York and ended
in CALLI like we cross country. That n't And when
I say you that was one of the best tools
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like that I've ever been.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
One of the best toys.
Speaker 8 (01:00:14):
And that.
Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Cash Money, Rough Rock and Feller tour, it was one
of the best hip hop tours in life.
Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
I think I only did two dates. I don't even
think they they actually invited me. I think I think
it's one of those. And then when they realized that,
it's like you not invited back. I really was like that.
Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
But but that because they're like, Nigga, we already got
enough hot niggas here.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Hey, that shown that I ain't even lie of that's you,
that's young wasp. Rule was on a few days. Yeah,
me and seen no men. Two days. I was like
I can't get anything.
Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Because because I mean, I'm gonna be honest, that was
ill cash money. Let me give cash money. They motherfucking props.
They motherfucking came out and destroyed. And at this time,
people did not understand what the South was. Yeah, no facts,
(01:01:35):
they did not understand. And these mother we knew what
it was in the South.
Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
It was, it was, it was because it was it
was certain cities well you know the rock, you know
what I'm saying, closed close out.
Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
And then there was certain cities rough we had to
close out because they couldn't come.
Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
About that. I was like that, you know, the east
coast side, that whole.
Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
You know that that that you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, yeah,
And I didn't even understand and you know, all that
back then.
Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
You know, mother Fuller want to go first, motherfucker, I
want to go last. Give me, let me just perform
the money.
Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Give me the time. I'm up there. You not get
ship out me out of here, you know what I'm saying.
But yeah, nah, man man, you know, because they had
an incredible show. You know, we had an incredible show.
You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
We pull out the helicopters. You know what I'm saying,
and you know, the whole busting out the road, you
know what I'm saying. And then egg you know, coming.
Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Out humble, you're being humble, but be humbled for you
and and that was one of the best hip hop tours.
Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Humble too, I feel in the.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Most beautifulest way ever because you're being humble and I
respect that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
No, So that's the best hip hop That's one of
the best. Now that No, No, it was. It was
super dope, bro. I beg you to be back on
that show. It was. It was super dope. Man. I
ain't not like like, I ain't never been like like.
That's that's one of the highlights of my career for real.
Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Like he was on creation's highlight my career. Okay, good,
next one. See we go here, Mac or mister Servan.
Fuck is you talking about?
Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
You know what I mean? I'm saying shell Shock is
a classic? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Like Mac, Mac is like I would not you know,
I mean like man, ain't nobody lyrically like like lyrically
like that nigga Mac Man.
Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
You ever listen to Shock or any of his like man,
Mac is one of the best lyricists. Like I'm talking
about Mac, I don't know, fun h period.
Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
We ain't got a Silk of the Shocker question there,
you know, you know, Silk and Shaka be me in
every category every so he reminds us every time I
want to tell him that to every time I see
suit of Shaka every category.
Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Yeah, this nineteen ninety eight the best year of my life.
Be every they tell you why I still got beef
Zino to this day, I just arguing with him.
Speaker 10 (01:04:36):
Be me.
Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
I'm sorry, crazy many Fresher koc Many.
Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
I'm answering that and I'm gonna take a shot for that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
I ain't gonna lie though, Bro, that's a yeah, he said,
like that's you forgot to ask.
Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
I ain't even bother go down. That's a drum, you
know what I mean? My bad?
Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Yeah, man, you and I love Fresh to day Man
Fresh creating my sound, you know, he he he. You know,
I never wrapped on another beat outside of Man in
fresh To like I was on my sixth solo album,
you know what I mean, Like man It Fresh produced
every song that I ever recorded on from you know,
(01:05:27):
True Story, Chapi City is All on You Volume one,
All on You Volume two, you know, Chava City and
the Get Old check Me, you know, and when I
left Cash Money, that's when I started, you know, working
with other producers and you know, vibing with other producers
and you know, just getting on other sounds and just
whatever whatever. So you know, Fresh It's knee and deal,
(01:05:50):
you know, to my heart like I love him and everything.
You know that that he's done for me, Like you know,
my biggest records, you know what I mean, It's many
Fresh records, you know what I mean. But Man, klc
Is is a legend too in our city. Man and
Koc then created you know, some hot ass records for
(01:06:14):
me too like that. Don't talk to me and you
know that like yeah, Man and I and I love
both of them, bro, man, they both my brothers. Man,
So you know I'm gonna I'm gonna just go and
take a little shot for that's just.
Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Took a shot. Look.
Speaker 11 (01:06:30):
Look I got prety motherfuckers over here.
Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Tonight. Yeah, man, all right, get it? How you live
a Guerrilla Warfare? Gorilla Warfare? Hands down? Gorilla Warfare man
hands down? Man, you know what I mean? Like like
like you know how you live?
Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
You know that was you know that That's Hot Boys album,
That's the first High Boys album. Then Gorilla Warfare is
you know, the second High Boys album. But that Gorilla
Warfare different, you know what I mean, Like you know,
don't get me wrong, like get it, how you Live
Hot and that John Jamin.
Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
But but but you could pop that Gorilla Warfare and.
Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Y'all like, yeah, nah we we we had all found
our swag, found our floor, found.
Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Our vibe, like yeah, that Gorilla Warfare him m.
Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Yeah, because I have so much more, man, you know
you know why, because you know why actually looking from
outside of looking in, I got to see from the
outside of looking in, I got to see y'all grow,
and I got to see y'll grow individually, right, right,
to tell you the truth, being honest, I love Wayne.
Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
I didn't see Wayne being a superstar at that time. Yeah,
not facts. It's a lot of people feel that way.
You know, see that he was a little kid, like
he was a little baby. I'm not saying he wasn't
a superstar. He was and you know, just to do
what he was able to do without the cursing and
and and you know, to keep.
Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Up with us as you know, you know Drewn was
a little older than you know what I'm saying all
of us, you know what i mean, and you know.
Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
But you know, Wayne was really the Libroski man. Like
you know, we did everything we could that you know,
just protect him and keep him. But you know he
was right there just you know, witnessing it all.
Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
You know, I was out there wilence doing this, doing that, dougging,
you know what i mean. Like, but man, that was
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
You know, you know he got to see you know
what I'm saying, Like, you know, and he just was
able to just man just you know, take something from
each and every last one of us.
Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
He used to hear so many stories, witnessed, so many fans,
you know, being around.
Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
So much action, you know, at a young age without
having to be in Yeah, but let me ask you something.
Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
At one point when he said everyone left, everyone left
cash money and then he said that he held it down,
how did you feel when he said that?
Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Because I mean the you know he did, you know,
it was at one point like you know when when
you know when? When? When? When? When? When? Cash money?
Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
You know when? When?
Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
When?
Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
When? When?
Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
We just you know, restarted it and you know, you know,
the U n LV Days was over the list, Slim
Days was over the mist. You know what I'm saying
all that, and it was just me, you know what
I mean. And and Baby was like, man, here, you
know what I'm saying. And you know we're gonna you
know what I'm saying, We're gonna put the lib on
your back. You know what I mean, It's your turn,
you know what I mean. And you know we we
(01:10:01):
we came with the and and it used to be
against the Bounced label like where it was, you know,
you know Bounce Records, you know, mixed with a little
gangster ship. But you know that the Chopper City album
was like the first you know, real hip hop album
you know on Cage Running Records, and and and it
took off, you know the way that it took off.
(01:10:24):
So you know, I understand you know the pressure you know,
and and everything you know that was on his shoulders
because I.
Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Had it on mind, you know at sixteen, because it
was all on you. It's only me. You know.
Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
The Hot Boys was built around me and and you
you know what I mean. But but but really me,
you know what I mean. So yeah, man, like like
like because I was already four yeah, yeah, I was
already four albums in, you know what I mean. So
you know I was well established, you know, as a
solo artist, you know what I mean. And then band
(01:11:00):
we built the Hot Boys, and you know, that did
what it did. And then you know, Juvet you know
already you know, was a solo but it's just you
know that Hot Boys shit just really was able to
you know, showcase us you know, as as individual all
this and as a you know, solid croup and just
(01:11:21):
you know, push that that that unity, you know, that
that that that we was you know what I'm saying,
pushing at that time.
Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
And yeah, man, yeah, I think, uh.
Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Damn, man, it's just going for just you know, just
thinking back and just reliving all that.
Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Its just because that's the difference between you guys and
every other label.
Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Was you actually had four albums? Yeah? Yeah, I think
Wayne had like two albums. I think the Hot Boys. No, no, no,
not one. He had one album? Right, he had no,
he got nine. He he got his first EG. Oh no,
you know that's damn that's crazy. You know what I mean.
(01:12:06):
Wayne was a group called the BGS. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
The first got the first the first VG's album was
me and Wayne as a group, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
And then you know, God Bless the dead, Rest in peace.
Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
The Rabbit you know when when when when uh or
before Rabbit got killed? You know, he ended up, you know,
he wanted to invest in Wayne hisself and you know,
put you know, Wayne out, you know what I'm saying, hisself.
So he ended up, you know, taking Wayne from cash money.
And then that's when you know, Baby and Slim decided
(01:12:43):
to just rap the Z and just call me BG.
Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
You know what I mean. So that's where the BG
come from.
Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
You know what I'm saying, because you know me and
Wayne started as a group called the Beg's Baby Gangsters.
Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
You know what I'm saying. And then when Rabbit and
ended up getting killed, miss not Rabbit.
Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Now that's that's that's Wayne's stepdaddy. Okay, that's what Waynet
always talking about the storms. You know what I'm saying,
Rest in peace, Rabbit, Yeah, that's that's his that's his stepdad.
So once once once when when when Rabbit I killed,
you know, Miss Sea ended up you know, letting Wayne,
you know, come back to the label. And then that's
(01:13:24):
when we you know, formed the Hot Boys.
Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
We got more. We got a lot more. I got a.
Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Boy in the Minister society. Ah fun man, always have
a problem with always well old Dog's old dog.
Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Everybody wanted to be hold up. I want to brew
the little like like like like like like boys and
the boys in the Hood got a mean message in it.
Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
You're man, I didn't even really get the message two
years years later, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Like when I was young, I didn't even really get the.
Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Message that that that Lawrence Frishburn, you know what's pushing
about the regentrification, you knowing the hood.
Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
You know what I mean like stopped Ross man. I
gotta go with Trick man. You know what I'm saying,
like like Trick.
Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
The mail Man Miami and Man of Florida period, like
for real, for real likes like like like like Trick
you know, did so much, you know what I'm saying,
just just for Florida and just putting you know what
I'm saying, Florida on the map and just their thug
holiday like you know, he paved.
Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
The way for niggas like Ross, you know what I mean.
So I got to go with Trick Man. This nigga
answers that ship called.
Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
I think even going to watch this and be like, yeah,
clips a dog Pound, I ain't gonna do this.
Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
I ain't got ship to do this. Damn the cliffs
of dog Pound. Man. I got to go with my
dog corrupting dance man. You know what I'm saying. You
got some she has no violence. You know I'm not
(01:15:33):
trying to give me a DV man. Come on, man,
I'm even clips come back und up.
Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Yeah, come on man, no facts man, I with Clips man,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
But yeah, man, I got that go with t d C. Man.
Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
You got some.
Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
That was my ship. I told this, I'm want the
remix of it. Show. My mom told them that you
I got to bring that jo back. You. I ain't
gonna lie your school be texting me. You'll be missing
a lot of days. I'm not playing.
Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Look this nigga missed the day. Look Thursday, your child
was missing. Hold this stuff that you with me, that's
brand you like, That's how they rocked. I'm like, this
(01:16:37):
nigga is sucking up, but he whipped me. So I'm like, damn,
am I making him funk up?
Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
That's how the school system is that man to do it.
Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
I'm looking at his nigga like, yo, man, you ain't
going to school. You look at because you you not
enjoying this man?
Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Would you rather be feared or loved? Damn love? Know
what I'm saying, Yeah, faced man, rather be loved man? Yeah?
Rap your m TV raps, Rap city, rap City.
Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
I come up in that rap city ro man. You
know what I'm saying. Don't get me wrong, yourm TV raps.
Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I love.
Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
You know what I'm saying, fair Fire Freddy, you know
what I'm saying in that whole You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
I was but I was. I was, I was, I was,
I was. You know what I'm saying, I was a boy.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
When up, but I used to watch you know what
I'm saying, your TV rep but Rap City the Basement
only you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Like, yeah, that's.
Speaker 12 (01:17:43):
Scarface or ice Cube. Excuse me, Scarface or ice Cube? Really,
I know that's a question, man, I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
Take this first face, Okay, this is the Diary, like
mister score Face, this bag like like, okay, all right,
I was.
Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
I mean, I love Cube, like, but I start with
with star Face with the Diary too, and people tell
me ghetto boys, tell me I gotta start ghettle boys.
Three fact.
Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Scar Face the Diary album is one of my favorite albums.
Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
It's one of the best albums. But it was kind
of like a newer generation. It is kind of like
it was on Death Jam after he signed the Death Jam.
So am I wrong? Yeah? Fix h? Thank you, Thank
(01:18:42):
you for correcting me, because my fans would have killed
Big Facts. Good album to on Death Jams. Star Face album,
not the Diary, right, that was the Double Jump. I
don't think it was. It was one of them that
was a double to was right either after that before that?
Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
It was after that it was what was the come
on google your hands, I take him my dad, my homies,
yees the only and that's the woman in par I
think that was the double dish. That was that was
this Yeah, no, man, So you're picking small face Face
one of the best lyricists ever.
Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Touch that's fact. That's fast. You know what I'm saying.
And it's over. I said that one of the best lyricists.
But you know what I'm saying OVERQ. I couldn't say that.
I mean, you know, I'm a cute fan that certificate.
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:19:53):
Face And he never got his due because they looked
down at Hi from being from the South.
Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
But he's one of the best lyrics. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
When come to storytelling, bro, don't nobody tell stories like Face.
Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Ain't a better ghettle story than my mom's. There's there's
no there's no better story. It's no better real bro.
Like to this day, I still my mom tricks on
me in the video and video was was sick like but.
Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
And then you ain't realize what your bills like.
Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
He was snuffy with a little not ghetto boys. They
really like you know, it's niggas like us, Like you know,
you got you're from the third Ward from the Texas.
(01:20:44):
That's the first time we heard wars. That's okay. They
they got wars, but they don't just rip them like
like they ripped you know, what can you explain.
Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
To that to us, like people from the East Coast,
what is the actual.
Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Ward Award is? Basically that's the ghetto.
Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Yeah, it's like a It's like I wouldn't I wouldn't
say a county, but a district, the district, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
It's yeah, it's the district. It's basically, it's a voting district,
just where you go to vote. You feel me, But
you know us as street niggas. We took in Erman, bitch,
we voting over here. This is where we are. I'm
from the third Wall over here, voting over here, seventeen
right right street. It's it's my domain, bitch.
Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Because like you know, you got some niggas, you know
Rep east Side, west Side, you know, north side, south Side,
you know what I mean? Like in Atlanta, they got
his own one, you know, its own two zone three,
four fives. In New York we got boroughs boroughs.
Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Exactly, but everywhere else got counting. We don't want that,
got piratesh So soon parish is the same thing or no?
Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
No, no, I think I think a county in a
parish it's different county like.
Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
Only one.
Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Actually the county a barrow is actually called a county.
Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Yah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So a parish is a
county basically.
Speaker 10 (01:22:24):
Okay, yeah, I love this ship Sco Swiss beats are
Timberland Swissy analog or digital?
Speaker 5 (01:22:37):
Who?
Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Analog or digital? Recording? If you're recording. If I was recording,
did you like or digital? Hm hmm? The analog is
more like you know what I'm saying in digital? Is
this new? Will? I think I got to go digital?
You know what I'm saying this, it's more, it's more convenient,
(01:22:59):
more easy, see more. Yeah, I'm gonna go digital. The
source of double x L man out the Vanessa. Man,
you know what I'm saying, white girl.
Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
You know what I.
Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Like?
Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
Wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
The Vanessa said, Man, listen, she been she been racking
with me since they one man.
Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
And yeah you know that man, Vanessa. Man, that's my
that's my that's my homie. Man. I gotta go double x.
Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
Okay, so you mister core magic, mystical magic. Damn, I mean,
I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,
I mean lyrically and.
Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Just yeah, I got to miss Yeah. I love the
New Orleans love that they love. I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
I love when you and if you're a person from
New Orleans, it's just like an indiview a Brooklyn person
like they love of the New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
Let me finish my drink. Though from New Orleans. I
thought he was from outside of the troll. Mm hmm.
Kevin Gates are boosy. Oh that's good. Oh man, I drink.
Speaker 11 (01:24:24):
I'dnk that you feel me? Y'all ready, let's drink on that.
Shout out the Gates.
Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Shout out the boosy man. Who he said, Kevin Gates
so booy Yeah, okay, yeah, we're gonna keep that right there.
It's down. That's that's fire man. Tell us bro.
Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
When I first came home, you know, Gates was one
of the first dudes to you know, feature me. You
know what I'm saying on the big record, right, you
know what I'm saying, like, you know, shoot a video
with me.
Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
You know what I'm saying, Give me a shot. You
know what I'm saying to you know, just just just
just get back out there. You know what I'm saying.
He pulled up at the video shoot. You know what
I'm saying, like you know, slap ran in my hand
like man here man, welcome home. Man, it's for you.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Just just on some you know, super You know what
I'm saying, like like like like one of the realist niggas.
You know what I'm saying in.
Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Kevin shut you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
And man, I love Gates man, and and and boost
it man. When I was locked up. You know what
I'm saying. Bue used to, you know, look out for
my mama for me, you know, on holidays and Mother's
Days and you know, whatever I needed or whatever I
called and asked him for. You know what I'm saying,
He sent it for me. You know what I'm saying.
You used to buy me cell phones in there shoning.
(01:25:55):
You know what I'm saying the whole nine yards. So
we're not win it, I can't.
Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
You know, we like love. We're not picking drink drinking again,
nigga trying for real bro, Let's go. Let's go. We celebrated.
Let me tell you something. We celebrating, Beg.
Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
I really really really wanted to give you a flowers, brother.
Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
They ain't a lot of real people in this game.
And when I know the real people in this game,
if I could recognize them and I can see that
they deserve their flowers, I have to do that.
Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
This is what this show was about. And I spoke
to you. It was that you on the phone. I
know we want the same place deal with you.
Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
So I know that.
Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
So when I called, I called yesterday. I don't know
if you know, because okay, I called yesterday and I said, yo,
let me tell you something. Yet a lot of people
and then they said, yo, you know betteral parole whatever,
because I think.
Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
You're still ye yes at a few months left, and
I said, fuck that, I'm dead in my vacation. Did
my brother come and cut me up? I don't even know.
I don't My grades was crazy, just like I can't
be out here with all my grades are here.
Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Yeah, but again, I promise you, I really sincerely, I
want you to understand how much you how much you
meant into.
Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
The rap game.
Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
No man, thank you, bro, And I know you don't
know because sometimes I'm saying that and you just sitting there.
Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
And you like, because I was just so humble like
and just so laid back and cool. And you know what,
I can I not be humble for you? Can I be?
Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Can I be like the guy for you? Me and
my partner that's right here. We want to give people
they flowers while they're alive. We want to get their
flowers while they can smell them. Facts, They trees while
they can help them, they thought, they can think them.
Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Yeah, and they drinks while they can drink. We got more.
Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
We you We're doing got you. I ain't gonna lie
to you movie, not with me, like.
Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
We gotta get back. We got a couple more get
it Miami or l a oh.
Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Man, I ain't even gonna lie to bro Yams brod
I got.
Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
I've got to come down be Yami.
Speaker 10 (01:29:25):
You hear me? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Great? Facts?
Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
I mean I'm both you know, man, Like before we
got our deal, man, Florida was a state.
Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
You know what I'm saying. They've been supporting me, saying
day one before we got our deal. You know, I
was moving you on this. You know what I'm saying
In Florida.
Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
I'm talking about like doing shows up and down Florida
from Pensacola to Miami. Man, So yeah, man, Florida man,
Miami Man, Man, yay man.
Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
To this three five man, you love your UK ghetto boys.
Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
I gotta say this man, come on, bro like I
ain'tn't lie or roch just I just let y'all know.
Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
You know what I'm saying. That that dad, that face.
You know what I'm saying. You know what's you know
what I'm saying. But man, Western pree PMC like ug
K man, you heard me like Underground Kings Man. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
You know bun B was on my my first ELM
Shopper City man like that was the yeah, man, Like
that's the shoulders I'm standing on.
Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
Niggas like ghetto boys and ug K and you know
A Ball and m j G and you know three
C min here and you know all in the you
what I'm saying. So you know that's the niggas I
come up under man, But yeah, man, I gotta go
ug K with that one man. You heard me? And
rest in Price Chad Man p Big Chad.
Speaker 11 (01:30:54):
That was.
Speaker 5 (01:31:02):
Ep M d or Gangstar em Yeah, and I was,
I was a baby there.
Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
You know what I'm saying, Like, like, but I remember
epm D a little bit more than I remember Gangstar.
Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Man, you're me that's inspect.
Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
This is the last one once that No loyalty all okay,
loyalty or respect.
Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
Or loyalty. Man, you know what I'm saying, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think loyalty you know.
Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Go go go go a long way, man, you know
what I mean. Like, you know, and you know, motherfuckers
definitely want they respect. You know what I'm saying, like
because you know, I give you know, everybody respect. You
know what I mean, whether I like them, don't like them,
you know what I mean. But you know, loyalty it
just means so different to a lot of fucker.
Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
I'm definitely let's take a shot for take because I
gotta go over cooling.
Speaker 10 (01:32:15):
You heard me, Let me ask you, hold on, let
me ask him? You started what age? You was mad young?
So how old were you when you started writing?
Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
How did you know this? Look? Look this Nigga's a
lesson at the exact same time. You know this a.
Speaker 10 (01:32:35):
Thirteen that's when you first started paying the lyrics.
Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Yeah, my daddy got killed when I was twelve, right,
you know what I'm saying. So I think that was
like one of the first songs I wrote was was
was was about my.
Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Daddy, man, you know what I mean, you know, just
just talking about him, right. And I was always a
fan of you know, New Orleans music and New Orleans
hip hop.
Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
But you know, I think it just was a of
me just journaling for real, you know what I mean.
And yeah, man, I was like, man, I'm gona write
a song, man, And and I think I wrote the
verse about my daddy, and and then I just kept writing.
Speaker 10 (01:33:12):
Because Okay, because you said you was a fan of
New Orleans music, but specific artist, because you were like
you and Juvie to me, were more lyrical than most at.
Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
The time in the region.
Speaker 10 (01:33:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So where did you Who were you
listening to that kind of inspired the.
Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
New Orleans wise in general? Who was inspiring you lyrically?
Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Oh, man, like Tupac uh Spice one who Spice, ghetto
boys usually k Pim Daddy, you know U n l
v uh Ponners and crime like you know, I used
to MC dick like I used to Ricky B. Yellowg
(01:33:58):
Like you know, I was listening to a lot of
you know, New Orleans music. But then I also, you know,
Baby had me listening to kogie rap, you know what
I mean, Like you.
Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
Know, he had you listening to it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
like to study it. Yeah that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Interesting, yeah yeah, baby, Like when I was like, you know,
thirteen fourteen, Like you know, Baby used to make me
listen to a lot of koolgie rap, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
Just yo, I can see that now.
Speaker 10 (01:34:29):
So you know, there's a lot of Southern artists that
have said, like Tricky said that he was into coolgie rap.
Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
I believe you know what I forgot about that part.
There's a couple of folks that have said that out here.
You're correct, but you know, you know that's gangs the rap,
that's the original big face yeah, coolid pegging, that's why rap.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
Like he was he was on He's yeah ship like
we bagged in and yeah, now Baby used to make
me listen to you know, coolgi rap and you know,
just just different ship, you know what I mean? Because
like I said, I was a kid man and I was,
you know, just trying to find my voice, you know,
find my sway, find my flow. So I just used
(01:35:10):
to eat up you know, all type of different ship
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
You remember doing the video with Prodigy. Absolutely that was
all probably one of the biggest things for Queens, right.
Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Nah, that was one of the biggest things for me,
Like coming from the South, you know what I mean,
Like you know what I mean, Like that's my thief, right.
Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
This is my thief. So you know, for them to
even much reach out to a.
Speaker 13 (01:35:39):
Nigga and.
Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
That that really was kind of, you know, one of
them you know, points in a nigga career where niggas
feel like, damn they hear us up there like like
like like that we really made it, like you know,
like niggas fucking with us.
Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
Okay, okay, love this, I love it, Like you know
what I'm saying, you know, like y'all look down on us,
you know what I'm saying, like you know what kind
of you know what I'm saying, like kind of imprison
in it, man.
Speaker 5 (01:36:07):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
I told the whole time you don't believe it, yeah, man,
And it was like damn, bro, like you know I'm
saying like.
Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
It's factual history.
Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
Yeah, who hold because now you're making what prategy like
calls that she meant the world to a nigga.
Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
You heard me, know what I'm saying, Like yeah, man,
like like rest of the peat prateigy man saying like
like big facts.
Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
You know what I'm saying. But yeah, but you.
Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
Didn't you didn't realize that you deserve that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
I mean yeah, yeah, I felt like you know that
that that that I deserved it. But for real, for real,
we was in a mind frame like man, when funk everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
You know what I'm saying. We don't even funk about nothing.
You know what I'm saying. We're doing us. You know
what I'm saying. And we just you know what I'm saying,
like like now that's what we had, right, you know
what I'm saying. We like we're gonna make these niggaspect us.
You know, well, you know what I'm saying, like you
not nigga beat me. You know I know what I'm saying.
The nigga just you know, so nigga wasn't even trimming
(01:37:10):
like man, we get money. Man, you know what I'm saying,
we hear you know what I'm saying, we get these plaques.
Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
You know what I'm saying, Niggas ain't seeing us niggas,
you know what I'm saying, Like, but yeah, they feels
don't feel.
Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
Just the first is that the first time that you
felt like New York was was embracing.
Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
You gonna lie like like like like when you reached out,
you know what I'm saying, like few years ago now,
But that's the fact, like nigga, like you know what
I'm saying, Like Nor reached out. You know what I'm saying,
Nigga pro even reached out. You know, jay Z reached
you know what I'm saying. Later, I'm honest. You just
(01:37:44):
you just driving you you know what I'm saying, like
you earlier. Take my problem right now right here. But
but yeah, man, that that that that really you know,
(01:38:07):
kind of made a niggas feel you know, a little
bit more comfortable. And you know what i mean, like
just comfortable.
Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Just you know what I'm saying, like all were here now,
you know what I'm saying, Like it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
To hear what I'm saying, but it's also like not
beautiful to hear that because we really embraced you in
New York, like you you are artist in New York
and you know it's crazy, you know, like okay, right,
(01:38:40):
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
It's just creating related that I wish. You know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
But you know how you like New York the mecca.
You know I'm saying to Hipbob, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
You keep it real, Keep it real. I mean.
Speaker 9 (01:38:56):
Like you're about to say, yes, you know what about
you feel about We've explained.
Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
You know, I mean it was It's just something you
know where there's no leming, you know, like like I'm
just say Master P or Jermaine du Pre or bird Man.
Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
You know what I'm saying. Ly j you know what
I'm saying. Like you know you you got all these
you know down south. You know what I'm saying. Like
even everybody you know, you.
Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Know what I'm saying, like like and and but all
you hear is you know Puffy and jay Z, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
And Shure like like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
Niggas don't give you know, niggas like P and bird
Man and Jermaine Kree and lyz J. You know what
I'm saying, they props and they didn't done just as
much as or even.
Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
More than all them niggas. You know what I'm saying.
So you know, I be feeling like it be a
bias there.
Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
You know what I'm saying when it comes down to
you know what I'm saying, Southern you know, legend, denry,
entrepreneur type niggas versus East Coast or West Coast.
Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
It's true. You know what I'm saying, niggas. You feel me.
But it's cool though, Lene Trimman.
Speaker 10 (01:40:17):
See Luke what he's been saying, you want to celebrate
the forty years of Southern hip hop?
Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
Yea yeah yeah, yea yeah yah yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:40:23):
H Luke been saying, you want to celebrate forty years
of Southern hip hop?
Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
And I say, and I'm going to represent for the
whole East Coast for this moment. Maybe I can never
represent for East Coast ever in a moment like this ever. Again,
we loved Southern hip hop, We appreciated Southern hip hop.
Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
It's that we couldn't put it on the forefront at
that time. We just didn't. Yeah, So how y'all. Uh
what is that called? Uh comprehend how you comprehended? It
was wrong? It's not it's not that's not wrong, man,
(01:41:12):
it's not wrong at all. No, it's not wrong. I
was working it. I was a DJ active at the time.
I'm going to New York to get records. I was
seeing that, I was interacting with people. No, I'm just
I'm telling you, okay, bout the way. It's not you.
It was the was built to New York, New York
centric exactly. That's what it was.
Speaker 10 (01:41:32):
The radio, the hip hop radio was centralized New York.
Then you had Atlanta and l A. New York still
control most of it. In l A, it was there
was like competing the.
Speaker 14 (01:41:43):
South was even even even even with even with media.
You know, it was the sore double everything go to
New York. He voted for Vanessa. So who you think
they hired everybody immediately because you know what I mean, Like,
that's was embracing.
Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
Yeah, facts fact And by the way, neither of y'all
are incorrect. You know what makes y'all incorrect was y'are
blaming the actual people. No, we're not blaming the infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
That's what I'm that's that's what you the infrastructure, it
was all New York Center from that angle, and even
what that was the first source of when when when
I three, like, come on, like, that's where we're going.
Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
You've been drinking up.
Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
What you're right though, you hear them saying like like
and and niggas was doing niggas been doing numbers. You know,
niggas been you know what I'm saying, like like and
it's like cad damn. I can't for the whole East Coast,
but what I can speak for that love that loved it.
And let me just tell you something. Cash money came
(01:43:13):
and fucked with me. They came and see me. The
Wayne came and fuck with me. G came and fucked me.
Juvenile came and fucked with me. Uh, every David Banner
came and.
Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
Crooked letters letters came and fuck with me. So so
I want to tell y'all I love y'all of the niggas.
Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
So let me keep, let me give myself for you hours,
let me let me you like like every so so
so so I respect when y'all say, maybe East Coast
nigga ain't fun with you, but can y'all.
Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
Respect when you say the East Coast nigga did love y'all.
Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
Yeah, fact, that's ally we have dream chams because from Miami,
you're from New York.
Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
Obviously creative dream kind of cheve up like that. I
like that when geta.
Speaker 10 (01:44:16):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
But let me just tell you something. And I don't
want to say you the realistic mhm with the N word, right,
I don't your face, I get it, but you kept
(01:44:39):
it real. You're stood still, and you're the only one
I've ever seen say anything about a record label and
they forgive them in the most respectful, best way ever.
By the way, I don't think they will ever be
(01:45:00):
another one you. But it's it's it's it's real. It's honesty.
And do you understand how real that shit.
Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
Is or you don't? I mean now, thats sure kind
of like I'm taking it in right now, you know
what I mean? But yeah, I get it. I get it.
I get it.
Speaker 3 (01:45:25):
I get it because when that record came out, right,
I looked, I was like, damn, woy would be do that?
Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
Just me? I'm like, he came home, they accepted him,
they accepted them. Why the hell did he do that?
And then and then two weeks later they accepted you back.
I said, this is the only thing that that is
(01:45:52):
so fucking dope.
Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
Man, you said this is this is what's your words,
and you could you could correct me if you if
you want.
Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
But I let it be knowing it now. And as
soon you say that you know what I'm saying, like
like I had to get this off my chest. You
heard me, and I was like yeah, like like like
it wasn't no you know what I'm saying. It wasn't
no off you know what I'm saying, but you did
like you know what I'm saying, like because don't you
heard me? Like stand on it, man, I mean, bro,
look we're gonna leave that long. Let it go. We
(01:46:24):
already left, Okay, Just ask.
Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
Me, just ask me when you're first met up, because
because everybody gotta be like, Nigga, what happened?
Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
And was here? Man?
Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
Listen, Like at the end of the day, bro, I'm
you know what I'm saying, like and I love her man,
That's why man, I love him too.
Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
Man, you heard me, But nigga know like then, I'm
just ignorant. Bro, I'm just the young, bad, rebellious you know.
Shall that is just alluded to see anything at any
given time. You know what I'm saying, but it's gonna
always come from the hard, you know what I'm saying.
And man, look you eat the lag of that.
Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
You gotta love me for who I am. Man, you
know what I'm saying and this is what it is.
Give me a hug, give me right now, yo, Yo,
thank you man.
Speaker 13 (01:47:18):
I appreciate you that this is this is this is
your man, this is your this is your host, this
is your podcast, this is your everything. Holy this is
we did.
Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
To make sure you got my money.
Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:47:43):
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