Episode 468 w/ Erykah Badu and Alchemist

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
He's a Miami hip hop pioneer.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
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good be hoping he should be. It's your boy and
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
And this is Drink Camps yap.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
And when I tell you, when we started this show,
we said we wanted to give allowers to the people, legends,
the people who deserve it, people who are icons.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
These two people is icons.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I mean, I don't I was going through this both
the discography. I don't think that either one of them
made a whack record ever. I mean all you hear
is hits after hits after hits. I don't even know
how they got together. We're gonna get through it. We're
gonna ask all the questions. But in case you don't
know what we're talking about, We're talking about Eric off

(01:36):
time that's is nothing a single? The first record is Yeah,
is that a single? Or is that like a warm
up record that you guys are coming from? Both?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Okay, first off.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
The record obviously reminds me of you know what I mean.
I remember when that record came out and I'm just
listening and I'm like, it sounds so refreshing, like even
though this beat has been out, but it sounds like
it right now. Liked, how did you'll, y'all, y'all orchestrate that?

Speaker 4 (02:11):
That was really the catalyst of our working together. I think,
I mean, she's Erica first of all.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I I mean I was. It was ninety six, ninety seven.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
I was on tour with Cyprus as a roadie, just
carrying records for Mugs Smoking Grooves tour and Erica was
on the tour and I didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Know it was just a.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Kid carrying records. I used to be in the crowd
watching her sets every night.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
This was I think.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Ninety seven, and I didn't even know her. I was
just a fan. And so it you know.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Full circle all the way, all through the years, and
it was a guy by.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
The name Cole Chris who works in the camp with Erica.
Shout out to Cole Chris. And he actually was in
a group in the nineties. Are you're going to remember
the group? You remember matd Flavor?

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Of course that's not the original a group.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
From the nineties show.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Long story short.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
My first tour in ninety three with Cyprus Soul Assassin tour,
the first show as the Hooligans. My first show was
in Dallas. Who opened for us Mad Flavor. So I
had met him in ninety three and we didn't keep touch,
but it was like six years ago. I did a
show in Dallas with Action. Action. Actually, yeah, backstage six

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years ago, you said, backstage.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
And I meet this dude who comes up?

Speaker 4 (03:41):
He said, Yo, what's up? I'm cold Chris book shows
out here and I actually met a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I said, no, Matt Flavor. I said, oh shit, how
you been. He says, yeah, you know, I.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Work with Erica And I was like, bucket list man,
like you work with Erica Badu. He said yeah, you
know because he was from a part of the scene
in Dallas early on, and from that moment on I
connected with him and we stayed in touch, and I
was just like anything, let's just stay in touch.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Whatever we worked together back then, Okay, yeah, yeah, don't
work No, this is the first time y'all working together period.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Me and Cole Chris used to right and listen to
lots of music.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm a huge Mob Beef fan, of course, and I
always wanted to sing over this the Realist and he goes,
I know the guy that produces it.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
He goes, I say okay, and he gets in touch
with you.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
And that was three or four years ago at least,
and he just kept the conversation going. How did it
by sending music every time he thought about me?

Speaker 5 (04:51):
And I finally got around to it.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
And when I wanted to record to the Realist, I
went to his studio in La. When I got there,
I just felt like, okay, well this is happening. So
he had seen me by then about ten fifteen songs,
and I told him I wouldn't come to the studio
waste time if I didn't have ten or fifteen songs.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
So you weren't lying. It wasn't that one record was
the catalystic?

Speaker 6 (05:18):
Was?

Speaker 2 (05:19):
That's right?

Speaker 5 (05:20):
So shout out mob Deep.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Funny.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Last week we had ha, it like that lazy.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
So when you first announced the collab album, I remember
people speculating and everyone's saying Andre three thousands, and they
saying Jay Electronica, and they saying all people. Everyone was
kind of thrown off when it was like you and
the Alchemist, if you had a chance to probably do
a collab with anybody, what made you choose Alchemists?

Speaker 5 (05:50):
See, I wasn't trying to do a collab per se.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
And I didn't even know that that was like your
hustle collapsed, right, you know what I'm saying. I was
and super bow profession, you know, personal collab among other things.
But I didn't know that. So when I got the
idea to do it, it was sitting there in the

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in the thing in the studio, and go down, this
is something we should do. A collapse. And I ain't
never put nobody else's name on my ship ever.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
I was. I was very I mean, but you have
to understand, like she and I discovered this once we
started working. First of all, the first couple of days,
I was kind of useless, but you know, you first
meet her, I was useless because when you first meet her,
everybody you know, I had to work through that first
couple of days I get to know him, became friends,

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and but once we started working, it was like, yo,
she does everything. I don't think people know this, Like
her beats are insane. She basically can do everything. And
we became friends quick on the way where it was
like I wasn't playing her beats to sing too, I
was just playing her ship like I would play evidence
of one of my people, like YEO, check this beat out.

(07:08):
We were just and that's how I discovered. I discovered
how like we produced this album together. Let's just say
I'm gonna put that route there right now. This album
is produced by Eric and Alchemistow and she she.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
She had her hands.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
In every record, like everybody knows what I do. I'm
gonna come to the table and bring the beat. But
you know, if that is not where production starts, where
it may started, doesn't end there. And I learned a
lot working with her, just like in the early days
working with Mugs when I was a kid. Working with Mugs,
it was like he used to know how to like
apply to shoe, string to the shoe and tie the shoe.

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It was like the packaging and the whole He would
step back and listen to the record in the way
where I wasn't paying attention producing, and she taught me
a lot of that on this record, and it's a
real collap.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Now, is this is an album or this is a mixtape?
A album? Full flood? Always okay? So all right? Well?

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Is it more records like that, like samples a hardcore
beasts like that? And and and that's that's a beat
you made correct for my originally?

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yes, for mob and g rapping.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
So is it more of that type of stuff or.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Or what is it?

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Well? His compositions already kind of tell a story, you know,
and people are rapping over them and it's so melodic
and beautiful, atmospheric without even anybody doing anything. So you
already have that composition and he allowed me to paint
on it, and anything that I contributed is an extension

(08:48):
of my voice, whether it's strings or horns or drums
or whatever it is. And he was a very gracious partner,
like kind of okay, cool and encouraging, and I love that.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
More of that, but.

Speaker 7 (09:05):
Yeah, I know both of you guys could do anything,
But did you feel like you might have softened up
and you might have hardened up working together.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I know, I don't notice.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
I mean I think you see.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
That I learned a lot working with her in general
in a short period of time, just how to like,
you know, I do a lot of my own ship,
run the show, you know what I mean, do everything
from ages. And when I got with her, it was like, Wow,
you could know so much and then you can meet
someone else and realize like I'm at the age or

(09:40):
I can still. I learned from my young homies.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I learned from my older friends.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
I learned from people. I learned, and I realized when
I linked with her that it was like okay, but
I didn't change. And I think people when they hear
the album, they'll see like it sounds like we met
in the middle. You'll hear my shit, you'll hear her stuff,
and you're real like, right now, I.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Ain't gonna lot that thing.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Wo sounds so good, Like I already I'm already throw
the pressure on y'all. I already think y'a made the classes,
like just from a single based alone, Like I know music.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Bro, that ship is fire, yo.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I was like, I have to keep listening to it,
like because I first went out of the.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I thought it was a mistake.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
I was like, Yo, wait a minute, this is a
like I was like, Yo, did they blit this? And
then they was like no, this alchemist on doing it.
I'm like, holy ship.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
And I was just blown away. And the artwork that
came out with it is well they did it.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
It reminded me of like the old ron G Yeah,
you know, and it was like an old classic with
a melody on it and hip hop R and B
like just so infectious like her melodies that's missing though nowadays.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Like you know what I mean, like especially in the summertime,
like to me, a single dropped at the right time.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yes, I'm gonna take a shot to y'all deppinely sock it?
Would you drink in the SoCon? Ever since? Yeah, that
was a great turned me out, right, don't we all? So?

Speaker 1 (11:13):
So, how many records were you in the studio together
on this?

Speaker 8 (11:17):
All?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
All of them? All?

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:19):
We went back and forth between his studio in l
A and my studio and Dallas, Okay, and we put
a long time periods in yeah, like I'm sure three
four months here.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
It's a it's a different process because I'm kind of
used to going fast and working with her is like stages.
These records grew like the demos, and in the beginning
we would lace. She would lay something and I'd be like,
that's perfect. Let me okay, I got it, let me
just mix it. She was like, slow, now, this is
a reference. But it was the references, like her demos

(11:57):
are gold. You hear the you hear the potential. But
as I was patient, she just made them better and better,
and she just kept adding touches and like turning them
into something magical. So I had to learn how to
like get out of her way, you know what I'm saying,
like respectfully, like let me get out of the way
and support her and all her ideas because they all

(12:17):
work and I'm seeing it.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
We know you did collab appums before. Is this your
first R and B collab?

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Am I R and B I you know, like I
mean this is the first like non like.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
There's nothing wrong with RB.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
I'm sorry, I mean, this is definitely the first non wrap.
Like I was other for a while, I wanted to
do something like this, and I would have probably been
happy just meeting an unknown young artist or who has
pain and smoked cigarettes in their voice. You know, I
never imagined that I would be able to connect with Erica.

(13:01):
You know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
One song one you know, in the fact that we
got to this point. Now we're on tour, like we're joints,
are on the project seventeen.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Got a show tomorrow here, Yeah, we have a show
and we've we've been performed the album basically.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Last week out here.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Okay, oh last week she's ahead.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Let me take a shot to that, old boy.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
So how's that reception been to an album people are
just hearing for the first time.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
I mean, it's it's crazy because I wouldn't have I
wouldn't have done it. You know, I wouldn't have thought
to do this. You've never done something like with y'all seen. Okay,
y'all seen this year. Yes, we have a project and
we went and did a sold out show in Paris
and we played out from start to finish.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
The new album.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
And yeah, this was id that Eric also had that
we were like talking about. And shoot, I was kind
of nervous because you know, when you do unrelated I.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Just think y'all seen in are some kind of suit
solo twins. We always think of the same thing m
same time.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yes shouts y'all seen when the family member you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
And you've got an album coming out with ghost Space too.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
No, no, that was a rumor, probably a rumor. I
have album, y'all seen.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
We have a we have a collective called Forensics, and
that's gonna be coming out soon as well. But just
the live like, you know, just to say you know,
you know this. You know when you perform of course
and you get to your hits, it's always easy because
the crowd, you know, you think got them in a
part of your hand. So when she said we wanted
she wanted to do the whole album live, I was
kind of nervous.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Are y'all recording the album live? Like, oh no, it's
just just uh we.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Recorded shows, okay, cool, just in case.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Yeah, but it's been amazing and it's crazy to see
like a whole crowd of people.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Mind you were no phones, no phones.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I wish we could do this for every show.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
And fresh Head they can't bring equipment either. They have
to use disposable cameras that we provide.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
So that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
It's fun. Who's idea with that.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
I mean I like it, you know, like it.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Part of it is functional because I'm not out yet.
So yeah, absolutely, it's not just because you're doing it.
It's also, hey, we're not leaking.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
This out right.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
The main reason, right, and to create and experience for
the fans who were there who could really hear.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
It's almost like a listening session. That's what I want
to say on stage, you know, and if you'll be
scared of they have to do that.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
See what.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
A little scared but worked.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
We're not in the same age as we were in
the nineties and two thousands is the age of streaming, right, but.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Even the league would be to our advantage.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
Is something, and I think your fans are your fans
enough to come out so much.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
We had five shows and no one has done anything.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
They haven't seen any footage.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Nobody everybody after you, you guys have done with the album?
Do you guys perform like your hits after that? Or
that's it the show? I was gonna come tomorrow. I
thought them last week. I was last week.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
These questions.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
So I gotta ask you, is everybody named Tyroll mad
at you?

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Know they seem pretty happy.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
They like it.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Yeah, because it's just like it.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, mom, Tyron, my name is trow Is Tyron a
real person? No, it was the freestyle, Okay, okay, playing
around because I.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Imagine you made it tough for everybody named Tyrone.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Not tough.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
I think you probably got more pussy there you.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Go, ty I didn't know she just said that. Holy
holy okay. Yeah, I don't give man. I know you
for the years. When did you switch to the killer?
I was gonna, I sworet you was going to order darker.
Oh no, No, I was gonna er wine. Yes, remember

(17:46):
the last time we went that wave?

Speaker 4 (17:47):
You know, we go through different you know, I think
I want to get on that the saki.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
I think.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
I want to get on the shock. We've had some
good natural one.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I think that was the first time I met Action
Promston at just at your studio, and it was and
then at first I was I was like this is nasty.
I was, But then I kept drinking and I was like,
all right, it's organic wine.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Like you know what I mean. You gotta used to
know pesticide. You remember, did we me and Nor We
go back so many time? Do you remember when we.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Were talking with Ki Cundy when you first got one,
you were an honorary hipster.

Speaker 9 (18:23):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Take that he came from that.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
He's like, I didn't even know what it meant. But
I was just like, hey, I'm like, we didn't know
what We have stories man, Like this is a real friend,
like rap music.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
That's same s.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
We have history.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
So you want to explain to them the story. I
mean the game, the game. Yes, all right, this is
our drinking game. We're going to give you two choices.
If you pick one, we don't drink. But if you
say both and neither, we all drink. The whole table
drinks and really say, it's not to just anybody.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
We want to just bring up there anything the jogs
your memory or story that can come up.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Please, you know, let's talk about it.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
The instruction.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Usually people don't understand.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Do you know what I'll do?

Speaker 5 (19:18):
Hockey smart, shocking, sucking me.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
So I take the first one, go for it, buddy?
You ready?

Speaker 1 (19:32):
No, well, let them get their shot. Okay, my bad,
what don't matter to play the game whatever, because I'm
speeding ahead. Alchemist just said she told him so down, Okay,
I told you, I told you guys.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Okay, they got their shots right, all right?

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Good, go for the first one. It's not on the board.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
It's big shots you gotta make, but make smaller shots.

Speaker 7 (20:02):
Still the baby oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're trying to
do baby shots.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
It's really not like liquor.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, it is LIQUI don't get into Yeah, come on,
Abby or Alan?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Is that for me?

Speaker 5 (20:16):
It's our question? Abby or Allan?

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (20:23):
What do I have to do?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Like, you gotta pick one Alan? Okay, you're gonna pick Alan? Yeah,
so who are you picking both? I'm drinking drink drink
that I love. I don't pick salute. All rightway, hold
for the album, right, Abby and A great names?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's your real names? Right?

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Great?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Great?

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Great? Great?

Speaker 4 (20:48):
That's whose idea that was?

Speaker 7 (20:50):
I feel like everything's the idea. What is on this side? Tupocket,
d m X, both of you, both, both of you,
both of us.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
Okay, TUPAC or d.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
M X, rest in pieces of both?

Speaker 5 (21:06):
But I like this game. Okay, let's see TUPAC or
d m X.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
It's any criteria.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, in any criteria, Tupac, Okay.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Both both, Okay, you're going picking.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
I'm not picking between two?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, I respect that. I don't understand it, said the game.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
They know though, all right, how I want to drink
like the I don't want to drink, But that's that's what.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Happens Michael Jackson or Prince, and we need stories if
there's stories.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
To be mad anyone.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah either, Yeah, I met Prince really like Prince. Never
met Mike, but I can relate to Mike a lot.
I love Mike both for me both.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
But can you told us the night you met Prince?

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Prince was once my rhythm guitarist on stage wait for
a one offer like Thomas Gone tour the whole tour. No, just.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
I've seen a clip of it. I've heard Prince on stage.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Holy, I got a Paisley Park a little bit, I
recorded some.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Songs, crazy legend.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
This is very cool.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Wow, we got to make some noise for that answer.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
You said both both.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
I'm not picking between Prince and fucking so it's one shot,
right shot.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
You ever met either of them? Never met either, never
met either. I feel like pretty much popped up in
Hollywood stories and stuff. I heard stories. I missed them
one time by fifteen minutes.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
I know he was like notoriously short. Yeah, he wasn't,
but he could play ball. He did hear that as
the world heard that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I like
that one where he comes up when I think he
was James Brown was on stage. You know that clip
when Princes in the crowd.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
And he comes fame.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
He comes on stage on his security guard shoulders from
the crowd.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I never saw that.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Clipton hype that up later James Brown.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
It was funny.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Nas came on this story and we asked him, did
anybody ever tell you no, like you know, to do
a record? And he said, he asked Prince to do
a record, and Prince asked him, do you own your
master's And I said no, So they said he wouldn't
do the record until he owns his masters.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
That was like the ill stick and he said.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
Because I don't want to put those executives kids through college, yo, And.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Like that's just crazy, right, Like he was so knowledgeable
that back then, Like you said, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
You remember young Love the mob deep song came out
with the Prince sample.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
That was because that came out officially came out that
white label.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
The story was that they were, like I guess they
were going to try to clear it, but I guess
Prince was if he on curses. Do you remember the
first line in.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
The piece versus I mean, he definitely.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Was the first line of peace versus fresh out just
a bitch pussy, But it wasn't. I mean, it was
a great record, but.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
It would have been I think it would have been
the genius for that.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
It would have been a hit record. And he wasn't
gonna change his verse, you.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Know, Pete, and you didn't have one twelve on that record.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
But I wasn't around it.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
I heard the stories. No that was this was before
I was with them all. But I heard the story
that p was. You know how he was. He was rigid.
He wasn't not not going to change his mind for nothing. Yeah,
blal or. D'Angelo, Oh solo, cheers, cheers, I'm gonna go
d Angelo. I'm gonna go d Angelo.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
I used to say, you still got to take the shot.
I used to say, we did, Dangelo?

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Really?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Premiere hooked me up with him, so I first moved
to New York. And it's a funny story because when
I went to meet him the first time, Premiere was like,
can you know, bring some weed? D'Angelo gave me. The
address was like in around the fashion district in Manhattan,
like twenty eighth and thirtieth from Broadway, and he was like,
when you go there.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Don't have anything in your hand? Anything in your hands. Yeah.
I didn't know what he meant.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
So I walked in and he it was like literally
like out of a movie. He was in this big
law by himself in the middle of the loft, sitting
in a chair with a guitar, like writing songs. And
I walked in and shit, I walked in.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
I go up to him.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
He's like, what's up?

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Give him a pound. I'm like, yeah, I'm Premire. He said, oh,
that's what's up. So gave me another pound.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Everything I said, you had to give.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Him a dap with you.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
I don't know if you know people like that is
adapt And then I understood what Premiere said when he
was like, don't have under It was crazy, But shout
out to D'Angelo. I haven't.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
I mean, yeah, D'Angelo, but blood too.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
I mean, it's hard to pick, but could they're both greats?

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Amazing both.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
The Riza or mugs. That's definitely an alchemist's question. No,
for both of them. They're both of them best ways.
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
I mean, Mugs is my big brother. I got my
start because of Mugs. But you know what I mean.
But if I would sit here and lie, if I
was to say that the Rezar didn't change my way
of thinking in general, Like they're both behemoth giants, creators
of the ship.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Like I wouldn't be shipped without either of them.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
So I've seen ris in action. Battery Studio, nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
That's fresh.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
We were in a session. I was in one session.
Riza was in one session. D'Angelo was in one session.
Most was in sessions. Yeah, Battery Studio. They had three rooms,
and it was in one room and he went in
to listen to the mix. I don't know who the
engineer was, I don't remember, but he didn't like it,

(27:08):
and he told him to move out the way and
he just did the board like Domino's. Then he said,
put it on the bigs. They played it and.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
He was satisfied that it was incredible, this one, you know.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Just impressed.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
I try it sometimes.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
He tried to do that on the boards, put it on.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Just the other part to say, put it on the big.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
The bigs really big, let me hear that, and Riz
is uh. The fact that he was able to make
a different sound for every one of them on their
solo first endeavors, like you know, just an album didn't
sound like to Cal or whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
They all had like a certain little unique twist.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
You thought he knew them.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
But each one like if it was tapping into this
type of movies for this one. It were like certain
nuances of each album that were different.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
An interview in time, he said, he said, I.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Try to make mephan man beats violence so he has
to fight back to the beat. I was said, damn,
I want to listen to Cal. I was like, damh,
that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
And he changed the whole sound at that time, just
for the first while. There is a man I can't
even say enough. Now, do you want somebody to roll
your joint?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
No? Thanks, we gotta try, gotta try.

Speaker 10 (28:37):
J Diller a cute t. J Diller a cute t
oh uh, rest in piece.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yes, rest and beats, Yes, my guy, you know who
we are almost a Q tip because he's here and
I want him to know. I want to come all
to know how his beats inspire me as a as
a producer, as a beat maker, as a as an

(29:19):
artist period, how he puts the compositions together. Yeah, he's
he's bad.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
I can tell what beat is.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Here is on anybody's album, My deep album, his things up?

Speaker 4 (29:31):
You know.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
He's incredible. You're incredible. Where's the camera, Tamal? You know
you're incredible. There's no no comparison to what you do.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Everybody has their own thing, but you.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
I still can't get over when he was looping that record.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
With the needle. Oh my god, I'm gonna go cute
Tip also.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Man, I mean Tip.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Man, thinking about all those records that he produced, like
because back then I didn't really know.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Wasn't Jay Dilla under Q Tip anyway?

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah okay, yeah, but like at that time, I didn't really.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Know about production like that.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
So it was kind of all magical when I heard
the beats, and later on I discovered the samples and
the drums, and to think that how he was putting
certain drums to those loops like electric relaxation or something
like that, like that's a drum break from another record,
and the synergy and effusion and he was.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
So ahead of his time.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Or think about the drum pattern for one love like
just a fucking drum pattern.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Like yo, he was the night with heat. Tip.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Tip is like, uh, he's like the foundation for so much.
And he was also the way we also discovered like
I didn't know RAMP. I didn't know about RAMP until
they sampled it. And you know there's like certain records
that we discovered later. Yeah, he dug deep and it
was funny because when we were young, I thought that
he was doing the beats.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
That's what until one love we didn't realize.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
You know who put me on large Large he was
a lost professor. Think up Large, that's my best case
scenario for me. He told me he was like Tip
was in the crates. Tip was really the one because
back then we always start to put the DJ jaking
the beats and shout to Alisi. I'm sure he had
a hand in it, but cute Tip man can't say,

(31:28):
you know, he's.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Sorry, Jada subject a little bit. But you told me
a great story one night. He said that I believe
I'm quite sure this was you. You said that Large
Pro went to a Ray Kawan show and Ray Kawan
didn't have on the Cuban links and he walked out.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Yeah, he was he disappeared. We went to the show
in La. The crowd, Ray came out was gone, where'd
he go? His man was like, nah, he's outside, he's chilling,
and I came outside. Afterwards, Ray came out killed it.
He didn't have his normal big link on. He had
like a jeweled shirt.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Or so that's Ray.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
We could do what he wants. The Large was like,
he went outside, what was up? He's like, God didn't
have to link.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
He felt like nah, like as a fan, like he
wanted to. Large is the essence like everything he pop.
You gotta see he owns a pizza like.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yo, yoga, I want, I want, I want to kicking
on it.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
You know, I took one time we went to a
Meeba record stores in La.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
This is a store.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
He snuck a turntable in his own table, and he
had gloves for digging. And then yo, he went he
went to the dollar section. And this is for the
people who understand this. He found a Rupert Holmes drum.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Break, which is like a break we used to all
chop up. It's a dollar record.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
He hit it so no one else could get this
is ship we used to do.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
He went and hit the record so nobody else could
hit it.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
It was like some old b boys ship to do
like like like there's not more copies of it that exist,
but the largest is He's the essence of this whole
ship and rhymes DJing. He always did it all and
that's been a big inspiration for me because I always
wanted to have all all sharpened, you know what I'm saying,
all elements able.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
To And he's been a sort to a lot of folks.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Six degrees spot like he's coming to my DJ sets
and I would hear somebody I know when he gets there,
because I hear somebody over my shoulder going come on,
come on.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
You know he would be there.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yea world up that's large, you know, a large, my brother.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I imagine him like having a baby token to the doctors.
Make sure you don't look too much. I can see that.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I'm I don't know what I thought like that, Boldie
James or Conway.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
But I'm going both on that. Those I'm both both
solid both to say about that. Two legends.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Billie Holiday or Nina Simone.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Billy Holiday Currency or Earl Sweat, very very disrespectful and
horrible question asked. But I have to answer it. I
don't want to drink another shot back.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
You would have said both.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
No.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yes, you can bring in someone to be your drinker
if you'd like.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Is that a part of it?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I mean you have to drink a little bit.

Speaker 7 (34:48):
Okay, I don't do anything, but you can have some
We would like you to drink a little.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
You know, I think I'm good soccer smooth though, sock
smooth cool. It might be a trickery, but.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
It is the episode I was stand up, you stand up,
and then you realize we took a picture. I went
to the bathroom. I came back and I said, we.

Speaker 7 (35:14):
Didn't take a picture, and I got mad at everybody.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
He was going hard because I wanted to take a
picture with it.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Some thing I brought some prefernt. I was like, this
is the first flights, Like we took it already, Like nah,
man the tape Currency or Earl sweatshirt. Wow, I'm gonna
have to go both.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Both of them have a significant role in in what
I've been able to achieve. Like Currency was the one
that kind of started the run of me doing these
one person album and at the time I was kind
of nervous.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
To do it, and he wanted the Cobra Coop, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
He he wanted to just throw it out. I was
nervous as hell, and he was like, we'll do this
and we'll sell some which will put it out free.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
And that kind of.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Was the first time when I started looking at how
to sell music differently because he had a whole fan
and we.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Sold merchant put the music out free with Cobra Coop.
But he's not your first because turning Back would be
the first, of course, and then we do Albert Einstein later.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
But I feel like Currency was one of the ones
because I gave it my all. I remember I wasn't
holding back with the beats when I when we did
Cobra Coop, I just met him. It was like a
new thing, but I was like, fuck it, just put
my name on it. I gotta, you know, put some
heat on there, and like it kind of helped start
the run of doing these like albums with people and Earl,
Like Earl is like my brother first of all, but

(36:42):
he's also like I could basically give him an r credit,
like so much shit the last ten years that you
see me staying in.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
The loop was because of Earl.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Really what he put me onto everything, Like he's so ahead.
Earl is a generational gift. He's not regular, and like
me being able to he's younger than me, so me
being able to stay in and loop with him. And
then he got his young homies. It never ends, you
know what I'm saying. And and and.

Speaker 7 (37:10):
Like local history in a sense that you guys kind
of relate to course.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
And I'm just thankful to have him as a friend
and a mentor and and and and this ship because
trust me, man a lot of the ship that people
know me, they say, you know, I always putting me
up on ship. They don't know he's putting me up
on it. And then he got his young homie who
put him up on ship. It never ends.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
So you know, shout out to ear that's the both
my brothers. You got it. You got Eve or Missy
Eve or Missy.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Missy for me.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Yeah, I'm gonna go Missy too.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Them in the same.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Aminican guy Missy.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
That's not even tricky.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
They write it so that you look at us crazy.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
What do y'all know about miss see Elliott dope as
what performance artists that do what.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
She's an incredible writer.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
She's a producer, she makes beats. Yeah, that's different, that's
the something else.

Speaker 9 (38:23):
Yeah, what are we comparing tis shout out to Missy Elliott.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yes, yes, yes, Missy.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
We need you, We need both of y'all. But miss
will be a dope episode. We've been trying to figure
it out. Hopefully we can get it, get it done.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
So see three thousand or the A s R ten ten.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah, I mean machine okay, back.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Mountains Okay, yeah, I did all my all my classic.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
MP okay.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah, so you're still using machines both, y'all.

Speaker 7 (39:18):
Yes, because some people are coming down saying now they're
just using programs.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
I got sloppy dish everywhere.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
How do you feel about fruity Loops f.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
L I never really learned fl and well I got
suck it logic.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Okay, you're saying that ship like you know what fruity
loops is.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I mean, you know, you know, you know what. It's funny.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Regg Don't is made on food.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Looks a lot of that's out in general through fruity loops.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Like we just outside on the show too. He's a
foody loop.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
He's the man. Yeah, outside gets busy with.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Fruity the word with people who use fl studio.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
But I've never yeah that found It's just another machine.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
You know.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
People get caught up in the machine.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Is it gets you there?

Speaker 4 (40:01):
If you got to hear, you're gonna make make anything
sing like you can make any machine work. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
We ain't taking a show, Marvin Gay or Stevie Wonder.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
Son.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
And you've got to tell stories, everybody.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
That's why you're doing all this talking stories. Come, what's
wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Know?

Speaker 5 (40:38):
I'm a slow burn.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Stevie Wonder or.

Speaker 10 (40:45):
Gay.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
I can pick one today and change my mind tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
So I'm gonna go with Stevie Wonder because you can
hear me, and he's here, and I want him to
know as well. He's made maybe one of my biggest
influences ever in the world. I started listening to Stevie
Wonder as a toddler. He came out maybe nineteen seventy
one with an album I think called Talking Book and

(41:14):
don't quote me, World, don't come on my.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Drunk, Facts up facts if you get a year off drumpa.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Nineteen and seventy one, and I've just been listening to him.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
It's a voice. I thought it was my daddy as
a kid.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Thought because my mom used to say my husband claim
my husband out. But it was kind of satire little yeah,
but yeah, I love Stevie wonder his voice. There are
billions of atoms of him and me.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Have you worked with him?

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Never worked with him? Really? No, that kind of surprises me.
Well nothing public. Yeah, what you said mentor bring me is.

Speaker 11 (41:59):
He seems and the absolutely it'll happen right Well, you
said that that he can hear you, right, Some arguably
say here on drinking.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Do you think that's the rumor that he can see?

Speaker 3 (42:15):
I have no idea, you know, I don't think so, though.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Snook Snoop came on the show and says, Stevie FaceTime.
That's doable.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Someone could have just put him on FaceTime all right.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
In the elevator was oh, yeah, saw in the elevator
and Shaq walked in and he didn't say that in
the Stevie and Stevie was like, what's up, Diesel, like
before you go into yeah, and the Iley Brothers said
the street crosses the show just no one is playing around,

(43:00):
by the way, no one. We're laughing, but no one
is around.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
You can see he's playing along.

Speaker 8 (43:12):
Drinks because, oh, analog and digital.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
My favorite questions.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
One of my monitors, this analog girl in the digital world.
Mm hm oh, but uh, I do further warmth childhood
because it's it's like, you know, nostalgic for me and
I love you know what we can do and how
quickly we can do it now too, But I'm gonna

(43:54):
access cellboard kind of girls, so I'm gonna have to
say analog, yeah, man long too for sure.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I can touch this comptability of digital. But I like
analog like like one thing for short thing for certain
like us just hearing that y'all both was in the
studio for as of every record makes me my mind
me of the analog days used to can't you used
to can't send in the person a record, the physically
come to the studio. That was the better.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
That was the better days to me.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
You know, I feel like we're lucky too, because like
my first beat like keep it thorough, We're gonna make it.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Those were on two inch tape and those were like that.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Was right before ship switched over.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
And it's like if I play those beats out of
the A s R.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
They don't sound the same because that saturation when they
would hit the tape and go through the S S L. Like,
I feel blessed to have those first couple of batches
of beats bang bang we did.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
That was through the ssang.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
The other day, I was sitting there talking to the
brothers outside and I go, yeah, because you know, there
was performing on a dat And then I realized no
one knew what about it was that the two in

(45:14):
Remember when we were mixing, you'd have to sit there
in silence when they were rewind it.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
And it wasn't you to like be lucky enough to
have two reels, two reels so you can drag one
in order to make a flang sound.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
You got some ship. I don't even know about it.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Actually, the table that is crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
I don't know nothing.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
About sitting there waiting for the whole ship to rewind
and you're doing an eight minutes Oh.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah, I remember, not eight minutes long, but I know.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Minutes at what I know about.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Them drops on the board though, those are the best.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
A lot of drops for automation, flying faders.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, we're from that.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
We're from that, remember right, track right, that's right track.
Does the studios still exist?

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, of course, Man, the right track one and.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
By forty seventh Street, okay, by the music stores.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Right right, yes, old point. It was a real bad
strip club next to right track.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Remember that.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
It was like you talking about sound.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
So we did queens over there.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, we did queans over there.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I maye that beat on the spot. Yeah, that was
a good time. It was horrible to mar I drank.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
I went there to drink, but I didn't.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
I didn't have fun.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
It was like it was just you know, back then
we would come up from my m C and y'all
hits over there like on downtown, like as they mix
in and just have a drink, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Like what was saying on that Joe was a complexion
complexity question?

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah, let's put this quick time with.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Slung, which is so we say for sure analog right?

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah, both everybody said it.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Is that you cannot roll the joint on a digital download.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
You cannot have to have it. That's right. I can't
roll a joint on air. I don't know what that means.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
You'll get it later.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Think g rapper slick Rick, mm.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
Cools you Rap, Yes, can we can?

Speaker 3 (47:21):
We can we have an era? Okay do we have
to just.

Speaker 7 (47:24):
It's whatever criteria. It could be that Coolie Wrap made
amazing mac and cheese. One day he was like, silet pick.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
Him slick Rick.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
I mean, Coolie Rap shall just slick Rick.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
I mean, I feel like he's the inventor of so
much style, Like you could just you know what I mean,
But Coolie Rap, Like I feel like at this moment
right now, like you could get a verse from him
and it was smoke. Yeah, he's anybody, and he came
from an arrow of King Kim just like and he

(47:59):
never really got that, but g Rap always through every
era like, so back.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
To go for your guns with Mop and you can
do the realists.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
The realist that I'll never forget that day is because
you know, I didn't know MAB but really well at
the time, and I just met them and Pete called
me and was like, I knew the beat because I
played it for him already. He said, come to the studio,
we want to use that beat. I loaded up the
fucking SR and the big ass that shit was huge,
you know what I mean, took it to the studio
and walked in and Cooolgi Rappers sitting there, and I

(48:30):
was just like, you know, the fan in me was
like wow. He didn't tell me. He was like, you know,
we want to do that beat. I loaded it up instantly.
I didn't call my manager. I didn't And that's the
thing I always tell people, because I couldn't. I could
have fucked that moment up, you know what I mean.
But I was so so much a fan. I was
a who's engineer?

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Plug me up.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
I tracked the.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Beat and g rap went first because he finished his
rhyme first. And he went in there and laid that ship,
and everybody in the room was just like, what the hell?
I remember? You know, P took they both P and
half took your time and wrote half mother wrote four
rhymes for that before he laid his verse, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
And at the time, I was kind of insecure because
it was a loop.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
You know, it's really just a it's a one shot,
you know. And I had all these like fancy beats
at the time, and they wanted a rhyme on that,
and I was kind of insecured because I was like, damn,
you don't want these to showcase yourself understanding the time.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yet now I get it.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
You got to get out of the way sometimes. You know,
if I can do any style, but if if the
beat is already there, get out of the way. You
know what I'm saying. And that was just one of
those moments. But g rap Man, g.

Speaker 7 (49:37):
Rap was was that the record that opened you up
to that whole side.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
That I mean, that's when started the connection with Mob Deep.
It was that ug music.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
It just felt like from then on and just spread
because from New York.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
I mean on a timeline with Mob Deep and like
like like BC and a D like.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
You said you was Puerto Rican.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
For Bod, I had the thin.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
He wasn't saying it, but you know.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I showed her an old picture that had the thin mustache.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
You know when we were that's when we was rocking,
you know.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
But you know, my whole ship you could put on
the timeline once I linked.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
It with Mob Deep. I mean, that's how I linked
with CNN.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
I remember walking into Halves Crib when he used to
live in Freeport, walk down into the basement. One day
he said, come over, we're making beats and ship. All
of a sudden Naves walked in. That's the first day
I met Naves at Halves Crib, you know, and I
was making the beat for.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
TikTok.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
I was making the beat in the Halves basement and
Nas walked down and was like, yo, I came to this.
He thought like he didn't know me and nothing. He
just That's when we made that song and it was like,
like I said, everything happened. I owe so much to
Mob Deep, Like my whole we wouldn't. Yeah, shout out
to Mob Deep, rest some peace, my brother Pan come.

Speaker 7 (51:01):
On between Solar Assassins and Mob Deep and that whole site,
like it's crazy, Yeah, shout out no.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
But when people found out like you was from LA, people.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Was like, get the fuck out of it.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Even Snoop when I first worked with him, he didn't
know until later because I did, you know, I moved
to New to New York in like ninety five and
I was going to NYU and I just immersed myself
and you know, mugs. He basically connected me with Mob Deep,
right because he was recipes the recipe.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
He's bigger Bee. Let's just shout out Bigger Bee.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
One time, he was an important person on the West
Coast who worked with Loud Records and Muggs was working
on Solo Assassin's first album and.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
He connected Bigger Be connected.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Mob Deep with Mugs and then I was moving to
New York to go to school. At the time, I
was working underneath Mugs and he was like, Yo, you
need to link up with Mob Deep's young homies. You're
my young homie.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
They got these guys and from a small.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
God Twain and so I linked with them first and
we did Doug music and then he heard it was like,
I want to put a verse on it.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
And that's how it, like the whole connection started and
all that.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
What do you consider your style East Coast style or
pretty much it's a blend.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
I think I got a little of everything, you know.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
And at this point, I'm I'm on the West and
I've been there for so long now that I feel
like but moving to New York was so pivotal and
important for me, Like I feel like just all the
people like that era that we caught, we were in
the tunnel together, Like I caught the New York era
when it was when when when Nori was hitting records

(52:36):
market hit records, the biggest Ship, and I feel blessed
because I just caught the time and I was able
to link with the right people and showcase my That's
how me and nor hooked linked up and we ended
up making Ship some of my biggest records, you know
what I mean to this day. So I'm just thankful
to be in the right right place, right time, you
know what I mean, and just doing the work.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Legendary man. Yeah, Pete rock or large pro.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Ah need some more? Okay both.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
I ain't picking between those two man, two greats, Sol
Sol shout to both.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
All right, comment or y'all seen?

Speaker 4 (53:24):
Ben?

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Mm hmmm, I just had a shot. You would have
to choose for.

Speaker 7 (53:35):
As quiet as you are, you're very loud right now,
am I?

Speaker 3 (53:39):
What do you think I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (53:40):
I don't know, but you're contemplating.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Shoot that.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
I mean both grades, But for me, I'll go with
y'all seen. I'm gonna pick I've seen Okay, Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
I'm gonna say, babe, because the versatility, uh creativity, h
viability Kayden's voice tone, I would have to say, yeah,
see see he's.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
The most natural. He's so like he just had a
rhyme and just effortlessly like it was a conversation.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Saw him in a commercial with Dion Sanders or somebody
like m early on an actor before evening.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yeah, yeah, we have known to us as so it
was very.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Impressive because usually that doesn't really work out. You got anomalies,
she got Drake, you got Jamie Fox and y'are seen.
Other than that, it didn't really Does.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
He get mad if like you slip up and call
him most?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (54:59):
No, I don't think. I don't slip up. Did I
just do it?

Speaker 4 (55:03):
No?

Speaker 2 (55:03):
No, no, no go.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yeah, because sometimes I see him, I think, man, okay, I.

Speaker 5 (55:09):
Think what he prefers is our scene.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
But if you slip up and called on Most, he
ain't gonna bug out. Did we slip up when we
had him?

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Definitely? Like four times.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
I don't think he was great.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
He was great.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
It's both but you know, and he respects that because
that's why he made it smart for us.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
So, yeah, we we have we have a crazy record.
I'm excited to put out this record as well. Forensics. Yeah,
with me and me and y'all scene, it's like nine records.
He's done.

Speaker 12 (55:43):
Yeah, I'm excited. Shout to Sea or Queen Latifah.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Both need some more juice h.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Q.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (56:07):
Both.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
I know them both very well.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Alchemist too, you got a shot.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Queen latif for Jill Scott and I went out on
a tour called Sugar Water Tour early two thousands. It
was all Queen Latifa's relationships, all of her sponsorships and things.
She was doing a lot of stuff covered girl tam facts.
She's had a lot of broad relationships that were solid,

(56:35):
and she brought all the sponsorship for four and invited
Jill and I to be her coat. Yeah, it was
a tour and we had a lot of great start
out neo soul groups open for us, had Floor Tree
open for us, uh Music, Soul Child you know, you

(56:59):
know a lot of different artists like that.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
But I love Latifa.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
She's a powerhouse.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
She got in my ass though when I was late
to the studio, Oh my bad.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
With no hesitation.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
No she did. She said, Hey, I've been waiting here
for two hours. You told me you were coming at
a certain time and you didn't come. I mean, I
don't have time to wait like that. That's not cool.
You're going to You're going to fix that before we
do anything together. I was like, okay, yes, queen, Yes,
she's right.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
So like I'm gonna be honest, I must to work
because you had the first guest in Drink Champs history
that came.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
An hour early. Yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
I told you. I was bugging like we're all on
group chat and they're like, they're here. I don't like,
wait a minute, somebody come twenty minutes early. They might
come a half hour early, but it's usually ten minutes early.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
No one came an hour early.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
We was on a hire, like.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
I was here.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
You know, we don't play that late.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Yeah, Drink Champs man crazy.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
We appreciate it early, but that's super early though.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
I ain't gonna even lie that.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
I was like I was, and so we're always just
so we know, yeah early, but yeah was another hour earlier. Yeah,
so just so you know, we we we we we
judged the guests by uh, what they drink, So we
say we're gonna know about what how this this this
interview is gonna go and then we always make best

(58:34):
on who's.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Going it's gonna come late.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Happened one manist he's coming late.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
I said, one.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Maybe I want I want that, but I said, I
know having too long, bro like he's coming.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Annoyed, didn't make it. Annoyed didn't.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Know, but.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
I didn't know how it was going bet on this one.
So we usually get here to make the best. Yeah,
I was here.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
Before, So who lost the bat?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
We get to make the bat because it's usually I'm here.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Our we do it, how we do it.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Yes, you guys got here and our tech messages blew
up boom boom boom, and I want to I want
to brag about this.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
You want to black strong woman get together comes?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Yeah, you like to do sour pepper, you know, just.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Do it black thought or Andre three thousand.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Now you're messing with my child support. I actually thought,
y'all gup hit two of.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
The babies, listen out the conversation, and I walked the West.
I want no parts in this.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
That would have been better.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
I love that it makes The question is do anything.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Mm hmm?

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Well letot you know I got love.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
But I think I may be one of Andre three
thousand's biggest fans outside of being family super inspiring. Now
if we're talking about rhyme, that's gonna even be hard too.
But y'all going to hell.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Yeah, you guys are going to hell.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Save it's of course I'm gonna have to say. Well,
I'm saying andre uh I follow him a little bit
tighter than I do.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Uh h.

Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
H h.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
I lean more to the creative h h side of art,
and I am inspired so much by that. Someone has
to say three thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
I like how he calls everybody by their real name though, Like, I.

Speaker 13 (01:01:28):
Mean, she has what I'm gonna go both both, Yeah,
I'm both let me wish my glass.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
We're going to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
I can't do that. What do you think black thought is?

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
You think a lot of people are going to see
this nobody?

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
But do you think black thought is a trillion sounds
better than jay Z?

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Like, who's saying that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I am where was my guy?

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Too much? I think I understand what he was saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
They tried to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Run with dad. Yeah, come on now, man, I think
I know what he was trying to say. The Trillian
thing is the thing is crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
If he prefers black jay Z, I understand that could
never take.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Yeah, come on are we talking about here?

Speaker 13 (01:02:16):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
That's come on now. That's black thought is a peace.
Black thought is insane. He's perfect but we're not.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
About black thought the other day doing the freestyle show.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
What it was it wasn't not the flex when Yeah,
it's like I have to FaceTime.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
That's the old one, that not not not a new one.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Right, but still that's still goes around maybe within the year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Really I didn't see the one within the year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Okay three years.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Ago, yeah, a couple of years old.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
He didn't take a breath. Oh yeah, it went about
six minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, it's sanity. Yeah that
was pretty Yeah, Black Daughters, it's hard.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
I just I just started out as an MC, so
I mean I have That's what I wanted to ask you.
I love that I write all my babies daddy's raps.
Why y'all left?

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
What was the rap?

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
My rap name Apples Apples?

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Yeah, I'm not sing Apples.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
I am the big Apple, but I'm not from New York.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
I thought it was knife Betty.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
What oh but nine No, that's just another areas.

Speaker 11 (01:03:36):
Okay, yeah, but you weren't MC for real though, Yeah,
carry out thinking, I know I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Was a singer until I wrote Apple Tree.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Yeah, you didn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
I didn't know that I was that you had it
in you. That's crazy singing thing. You know. I was
a writer, you know, I like writing literature. Yeah, I
used to write raps, but poetry that saw so much.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Hm hmm. It's crazy number on it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Yeah, Like so would you ever do an all wrap album?

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
But you know, if you am, you got to keep
up with the weather. You gotta. It's a currency. It's
a feeling, right, a current, Yeah, feeling.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Some bars on the album.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Might be there, may or may not be some bars
on the album. You had to tune in. Okay, Okay,
we're gonna we're gonna hear something. We don't have to
put it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
Maybe we should let him hear the whole album after this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah, we have all the time for that.

Speaker 7 (01:04:43):
Okay, Prodigy are biggie.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Mm hmm, rest in peace, We'll get my shot ready,
rest and beats.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
I mean, impossible to pick. It's not impossible to pick.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
You just want to. Let's just if you just want to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Let's say game is bullshit a meal?

Speaker 7 (01:05:25):
Now, that's when the Mamajuna hits lintenders.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I know, I was like, it wasn't even nothing in
that fucking thing. Will we uh, okay, take down questions
you might as well bring a couple more.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Yeah, she knows, she knows bulls questions.

Speaker 7 (01:05:44):
So the next bullsh questions is j electronic or jay.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Z having fun doing this?

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Don't let y'all know in there looking make me sleepy,
to keep.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
You up upward.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
The words of.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Believe it. Yeah, yeah, I'm not, as I told you
that message. With my child support, I can't anything like that.
So you out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Okay, Yeah, that's that's that was great. You can pass
it about that. That's a new road.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Matters.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Yeah, because I ain't thinking that I might.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Get mad, but my money don't get mad.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
That's a new rule.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
You just passed the cello. Oh mm hmm. All right,
imagine some new jay Z ship right now. Imagine some
new jay Z just saying said wringing on something. He
spilled the beans. Yeah, you're working on it. He could
have a line. We're going he's working. Then we're gonna

(01:07:00):
throw that energy on them. We're gonna sayd in the studio. No,
it happens, it happened already.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Okay, So you suld picked, you picked drink we drink
a ready, Okay, you got to do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Jill Scott or a Lisia.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Keys Jill Scott or Alicia Keys. This is the kind
of show that like Tears of friendships, that's not about
you can.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
It depends on I guess your honesty level.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
And you can say a beautiful story about both.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
We would love to hear stories.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Can I just tell stories about both?

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
You gotta pick one one or both. Give you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Have a shot.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
I don't like to pick you sissss. So we just
take the shot and then we tell a story. Okay,
let's do it shot first, then story. Yes, can we
do story first? This show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
You've got a story verson and show you can leave
all Well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
My story with Alicia Keys I was it was nineteen
ninety seven or eight and Bodyism was going to come out,
and I lived in Brooklyn. I had an apartment in Brooklyn,
and a woman called me from Universal I think my label,
and said I have this young girl, the high school student,
and she likes you or I think she said she

(01:08:25):
I just want you to hear the music, whichever way
it was, and I heard it and it was Alicia
Key singing butterflies on acoustic piano.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Oh wow, before it came out, before it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Ever came out, I was like, who is this. It
was so beautiful and I don't know if I totally
shad that, but yes I was. I played it for
all my friends and everything as a way to compare
myself to you and say, see, this is how we
do when we have the you know, And I was

(01:08:58):
trying to level leveraged myself with you because you were
so amazing at that point and my music hadn't come
out yet either. But I'm want to tell you that
Jillie from Philly, we started off a little rough because
we were kind of both.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
Played a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
I sang a song called You Got Me written by
Jill and I never sung a song written by anybody
in my life, and it was so amazing that I
took a chance to do it because the route said
we want you to sing this song. Well, I didn't
know it was written by Jill until it was time
to win a Grammy, and it kind of invertedly knocked

(01:09:41):
her out of her opportunity to be this first artist
with this beautiful music. And I always felt really bad
about it, and we've talked about it since then.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
How did it knock her out?

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Well, because she didn't come out until two thousand and one.
I came out in nineteen ninety seven, and I was
already a recording artist, and she was a writer at
the time, an aspiring artist whose album would come out soon.
So when that happened, sometimes I didn't know the writing
game and all that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:16):
I just it was a good song. I didn't know
she did it, but.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
When I when I performed it with the Roots, we
want a Grammy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
As well.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
And the night, you know, a couple of nights before
the Grammys, calm and told me this is the writer
of it. And you know, I called her, talked to
her about it, and got up on stage and won
the Grammy. But I still couldn't help but to feel like,
oh my, I wish yeah or something, you know. But

(01:10:49):
that's my Jill story. Me and Jill are real cool
now and I love her. She's a great mommy, great friend,
great listener. Do yeah, I know Alicia as well, but
we will. You have a lot of chaps alumni. I
saw her, Yeah, this last one I saw.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
She was amazed.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
She seemed like she wasn't drunk at all. You know,
she drank drinking the ship down and ship I'm sorry,
I say both did we drink?

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
We say both we didn't drink. We didn't. Yeah, I
don't know why I'm reminding you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
This is terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
You want to take a break big time and going
to the flower Time. No, no, yeah, I've seen it.
I seen it. I seen that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Okay, making sure Dead Press or black Star at the
DEEPO whoa.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Very Afro centric.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Two different kinds of things though, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Okay, you can break it down to pass and shout
out to my Florida that one. In case want to
drink this one, I'm going to go black Star black Star, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:12:06):
And I think they're both just personally, I think I
think it's just a minor age, but they both represent
something very important the press, like when they came out
President that record was we need it right now?

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Really the same kind of energy. Yeah, that's that's uh
down south. Yeah, I was in the East Coast.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
Yes, yes, things.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
They were early on their ship. Yeah, you know, I
think Kanye did that beat. A lot of people don't
know that which one it's bigger than.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Are you serious?

Speaker 14 (01:12:41):
They did not.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
I don't believe that.

Speaker 10 (01:12:48):
Ship.

Speaker 15 (01:12:49):
You know, you would know, you would know. Yeah, I
don't know that you'd be surprised. I traveled with dp
uh dead press. We traveled around together for about a year.
We had shows, but we also were going to community
centers and having forearms and you know, reaching out to

(01:13:09):
younger artists, building programs and things like that, food banks
and food deserts and and those kinds of things. And
and then two thousands, Yes, great works.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Yeah is it?

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
Yeah, it's in the matrix.

Speaker 7 (01:13:29):
So is that about the time that that Kanye did
the People's record.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
Was around that time when he was in his back Yeah, yeah,
making beets. Yes, hmm, good one, Black Star People. That's
a good trivia ef fect. You know who produced top
billing massive good trivia.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Let me think milk is chilling audio.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
She might get it, she might get it. Molly Map,
did they, Sophie? Yeah, Fan, I think you should know
this one. I actually and I used to have them
on my This is one of the greatest beats at
all time of all time. Drum program insane. That's the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
We know the producer, but we did the joint and
so who didn't we know the producer.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
He's a legend. John bar say that again. Wow, just
trying to get us, like, I just take the shot.
I want to take a shot for that shout out
to Daddy know the greatest beats ever in him. That
drum program is mind blowing. We did the zoom with him,

(01:14:38):
Yeah we did. I want to say the shot.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
I want that for what to just what Tom did
in the beat but not knowing it.

Speaker 7 (01:14:46):
Yeah, but can I tell you this might be just
a personal opinion, but I think the people's joint you did,
that's one of the best.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Yeah, one of the best. Man. Yeah, great, great time
talking that we can come back to that. Uh n
w A or Wu tang plan.

Speaker 14 (01:15:06):
Oh my god, that's what I say on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
I know this question.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
What do we got here?

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Just get to drink ready. I think it's not the same.
I think it is the same. I don't think it's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Doctor told me a story about n w A.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
When you say doc, you're talking about doctor, Okay, Okay,
that's that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
He told me that in his understanding and envision that
n w A was a political group, was a radical
group who was trying to express what America had created
through the characters that they portrayed, and where E or

(01:15:53):
Eric was really in this you know, in this world,
and it just became something else. But he said, first day,
we're trying to balance public enemy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
To me the same on the different sides of the spectrum.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
But the sac energy the first yeah, publicli those two.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
Drake was a visionary and he definitely took some of
the East Coast inspirations and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Everybody and hip hop at that time was had to
take that. That was it's a visionary. Let me correct.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
D O c is a visionary.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
D O c s That makes a noise with important people, don't.

Speaker 14 (01:16:32):
Drink the most important, very important.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
And the fact that he lost his voice and kept
writing rhymes for for Dre that's like how that Yes,
see his documentary, right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Have I seen it? I think I'm in it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Yeah, I know I'm saying yeah, but you know, have
you seen his children gave to what I'm saying? How good?

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
How good that documentary? Like it's it's it's fucking phenomenal,
Like it is, like he's a great dude.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
His first album, but he seems like a great person
like WorldWind, Pyramid, Let the Base Go.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
Like in the West Coast, he was like an anomaly,
like he was. We were just completely fucked up by
that first album, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
We didn't know he's from Dallas, neither.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
We didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
There was there was something that happened. What was he wearing.
He was wearing the Kings. That's what King's Lauren and Lords.
He was in front of that, right right, and that's
that's Los Angeles Hockey.

Speaker 7 (01:17:35):
Yes, but there was something that he would say in
the album that would say that he was from Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
I forget what it was, right, he knew what he was.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
I believe he said it, but I believe his his
attire was like so much looking like that West Coast
that we just assumed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
It it was already, but it was already his style
before he left.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
He was dressing like that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
He was like he was actually wearing Fela.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Okay, let's made some noise.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
We say, oh, yeah, he was already wearing that kind
of stuff. He's in Phila. I mean he was. His
hats were the same as as the Stallion Boys Crew, right, yes, yeah,
he was ahead of his time as a kid, you know.
And well, yeah, we opened the Wrap era in Dallas

(01:18:30):
where Cole Chris came up.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Chris. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
So it was only a few like groups that were
like really thriving in that era, but the whole everything
was inspired by East Coast, of course, Yeah, but we
had our own culture of hip hop and in that culture,
d o C reigned supreme and so did Cole Chris. Yeah,

(01:18:54):
and when he got discovered by a man called Doctor
Rock who was a DJ. Doctor Rock introduced him to
Doctor Drew And as a kid, he's not even fished
with high school. He was disenchanted with high school. That's
how he Yeah, he got introduced like that and they
went out there. He wrote so much stuff, and this
is the story I understand to be true. He wrote

(01:19:18):
so much stuff and he kind of helped to shape
and form the minds.

Speaker 5 (01:19:23):
Of of what we hear as West Coast rap.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
Or in w in the DNA of West the popularity.
He was so ahead ahead of time, ahead of his time,
game his flow.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
We were with DJ Quick in the studio recently.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
He came when we were working on the album, and
the stuff that he said about d OC was like
someone endearing, like he really said the same thing we're saying,
Like d OC.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Was pivotal in the West Coast sound comes from so much.

Speaker 5 (01:19:52):
DJ Quick is one of my favorite producers.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Yes and Quick safe to say you got DJ Quick
on the album.

Speaker 5 (01:19:59):
He yes, he plays wood block.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
He has block.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Quick and he did something really important that expanded my
production game. He gave me Overenheimer.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
He gave her.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
He came to the studio with a keyboard and just
gave it to Oberheimen, which is I think you're using
on stage with us?

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
I do, and then the album shout out, quick man,
drink chest.

Speaker 7 (01:20:34):
Teacher, all right, Larry jun Or two chains.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Oh you silly, you must be dragging. That's not going
by the way, that's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Yeah, drink up. Something to say there.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
We're almost done. We're almost at the finish line. Get
us home, Get us home.

Speaker 7 (01:20:58):
Your m TV wraps a wrap city.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
You know what TV raps for me? Thanks y Freddy,
all day.

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
Doctor dre Love. That was the beginning of everything. We
saw everything. Yeah, I saw all the videos first there
shouted Uncle Ralph. Though you know what, I'm Ralph just because.

Speaker 7 (01:21:24):
No, absolutely we didn't get him down here, but we
knew the significant VHS tape.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Three more havoc, both of you hazard.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
He knows he looks.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Pretty more havoc. What he just wants to get the game.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
We could have a conversation, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
The conversation and the drinking is kind of like the
casual part of me, the stories, and then we're taking
all this personal.

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
They're both so important in everything I do, you know
what I mean? Like first first, first it was Premiere.
Premiere was my everything, you know, like Premiere. I think
any producer could say that as like as an inspiration,
like my first beast. You can ask evidence they were
fake Premiere beats and he used to be like, no.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
No, no, that sounds like rappers are in danger. Not
that sounds like whatever. And it was like I had
to learn to craft moll stout.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
And then later when I moved to New York, I
became friends with him, so then of course I can't
make a beat that sounds like him, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
And then from there it went to Lincoln would have
it and Mob Deep and have it. He's a beat.

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
I can't even say it because you experienced it at
the time, Like the Mob Deep days, it was like
shit you never saw before, Like they used to be
in a studio twenty thirty deep, and he was like
a conduit, like a or like he used to come
in there drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Ian j throw a.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
Diskin and then he would just start making beats in
the studio and was it right track, right track, unique
d n D And he would make sure live and
then his whole crew would just you know, guy, he
would be in there swinging his arm and no, he
would be wilding and it would be like he was
feeding off of the cruise energy. And I swear I

(01:23:24):
learned so much from Havoc, like drum programming, Like if
you listen to Burn, that's like a perfect that's a
beat mix baseline.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
He played that ship on the MP. The guitar.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
He played that ship on the MP like he just
took one chop and went And I just say that
to say, like I used to sit there and just absorb,
you know. So both of them are are like are
in my DNA?

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
You know what I'm saying. You can hear it premiere
and have it. So pour a fucking drink.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
Up, God.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
S Blue. I'm sorry we're drinking tonight. Make sure you
guys order the mineral water.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
And uh, you know it's a good thing. I have,
like a ship answered, I have a piece of pea
bread in my pocket.

Speaker 4 (01:24:24):
Damn should you want to bite it?

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
My god, great bread, Peter bread.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Some people don't think that we have the I'm little girl.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
Scout makes sure bringing it in her pocket to keep
up people straight.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Bread.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
Here, here, I have a piece of Peter bread.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
So dilated people's on Cypress Hills. It's definitely a high question.
Where's she at?

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
Poor up? I'm not thinking between those two, man, those
are both families.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
Oh my god, pick someone.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
You're gonna have to pick.

Speaker 5 (01:25:08):
Okay, who is it?

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Dilated people?

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
Cypress Dilated people are Cypress Hill, Cypress Hill?

Speaker 7 (01:25:16):
Oh, David, Oh, so we're still want of y'all said both?

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
The ruler again say that, but he could drink a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
I'm gonna say Cypress Hill because when I met you,
we were on tour Cypreushil nineteen ninety seven. I'm pregnant
as hell. Andre three thousand is on the tour. He's
an outcast. They're on the tour. There's Parliament from Cadelic
on the tour and Cypress Hills on the tour. Far
Side is on the tour. Who are you at.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
Us?

Speaker 5 (01:25:48):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to say that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
I'm gonna have to Cypress Dilated people's eclectic and beautiful
I just don't know the music as well. Some of
them choose that what about you, what's say you?

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
I'm going to go with both yes, because they are
both my family. Both. My first beat might have been
dilated People's. I think third degree might have been one
of my first actual.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Beating official Liquid crew.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
We all were.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
We were mad there. We were all l A was
like a really dope.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
Mix and everybody's sounded different at the time, like Will,
like Will.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
We grew up together.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
Will and Evidence were in the group together from that
American neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Will used to get busted in Man. He told the
story over here.

Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
Will was on the west side, hanging out for us,
right he did. Will, Will I am, I swear to gun.
If he didn't become what he became, it would have
been criminal. He was so talented when we were young,
like he was.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:26:50):
He used to win the He used to win the deep,
the dance battle, the freestyle battle. Because it was a
club called Ballistics. Shout to David Faustino Mud Bundy. He
used to throw apart in l A Bundy from Yes, Yes,
they threw up every Thursday night and in the whiskey.

Speaker 5 (01:27:06):
You look so drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
No, No, I'm getting there. Don't worry, I'll get there.
I'm saying for real.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Yeah you solid? Okay, good.

Speaker 4 (01:27:21):
The west side of l A was just a dope
mixture of sound for side was there?

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
You had sight? Perce had the underground l A seem
like it was dope. We all grew up underneath that.
What was the name of like that one club that
rast cast talks about. Mr talks about this? Okay, this is.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
What was the name of that globe the club Unity?
But yeah, l A was a great time. Man shouts
all in. Did we take a shot for that? Because
he said both if you want right now, Shadow, okay, yeah,
that's a ginger shop.

Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
It's the ginger sho.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
It was a juice juice bar.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Yes, you ginger. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
I would love to talk a little bit later.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
M Yeah, thank you. I'd love to talk to you
later about Yeah. Yeah, I'm an all greenise girl. No fruit,
no lemon oh wow, kale celery, ginger, cucumber spear.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Lena can go below.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
This is the last one. No, it is last, the
last one to get back into the interview. I'm not
going to say not. I'm not going to lead the
witness don't loyalty or respect.

Speaker 5 (01:28:48):
I mean, okay, loyalty respect.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
I'd say respect because you can't have without loyalty, right,
I say respect because you can have a bunch of
people loyal to you. Who could be dream killers, Yeah,
who could be someone who doesn't think you deserve what
you have who you are. I say respect. I'd rather

(01:29:20):
be respected in front of me and from a distance,
and it's okay, But either way, I don't really care.

Speaker 5 (01:29:28):
But if I have to choose, I'll say I say respect.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
How about you? Thank you? Neither neither neither. We shouldn't
need anything. We don't need validation, scholar.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
I don't think no one ever said neither neither. I
don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
We don't need nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
I don't think no one's ever said that's one of
these yeah, yeah, now we got a flower.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Now, when you look at hard copy, you know, copies,
just hard like you know, I'm gonna finish, I'm gonna bad.
But when you look at hard copies, does that remind
you of a good time in the industry? Or is
do we own our masters? Or is it looking at

(01:30:32):
saying man? You know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
For years, I couldn't listen to the War Report one
because I didn't own it, and I just when I
would look at it and it was just so much
pain and the person I used to be. So when
when when you look at these hard copies?

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
What what? What do you say to yourself?

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
Ladies? First, Yeah, ship, Yeah, I see a green person
who is very fortunate that got an opportunity that a
lot of people did not have. I see a partnership
between a machine and a singular artist that worked out

(01:31:14):
very well because both of our plans were demonstrated in
the collaboration. You know, I got. I wanted people to
just hear what I have to say. And I'm not
a big money focused person. I don't really care about that.
I can tell you that he doesn't think that's very smart.

(01:31:36):
All the time I take his advice on it. Yeah,
I just see that's a good ship. I tell my
children all the time. If you want to know who
your mama is listened to, Badu is a Mama's Gun
world Wide Underground New America one and two. But you
can't use my phone. And now Abby and Allen. Yeah,

(01:32:00):
I expressed myself beast through this music and I'm so
happy it has a platform and the deals that I
made are mine and I and I'm good with that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:13):
I'm proud of that work very much.

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
So how about you out, Yeah, Like I'm like, I'm
thankful for the journey, but you know the whole like
even looking that's like old mixtapes that was like the
Bob Perry days and well, just like give fucking what.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Was that lan?

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
And it was like I went through so many phases,
you know, and then it went from that to Cotch yep.
That's how I did my first album, Infantry, And it
was like it was so many stages that I had
to go through, and it was like one shit started clicking,
like like maybe five or six years ago. It was like, damn,
I wish. I wish it was like this twenty years

(01:32:58):
ago and I we could have just sped that. But
it's like you have to go through those steps.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
You have to.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
You can't skip any steps, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
And I don't know how to explain it, but it's
like it's in the process, you know, And it was
it was all I learned every step of the way.
Like I told you with E I'm just learning new ship,
still learning, and it's like I got into the indie
stuff and started doing my own thing, and I started realizing,
we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Need these companies. They're just giving you money, like we
have all the ideas. They're just banks. They're just banks.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Yeah, he told me, Like when I finally I was
liberated from my label after twenty seven years. Yeah, and
when we were trying to figure out what we're going
to do about this album, he said, I'd rather take
a loan from a bank, straight.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Real, that's a better deal. The way she thinks is independent.
And she was telling me stories every step of the way.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
She had to fight the fucking power to label the people,
in convinced people, and it was like she had the
independent spirit and she won every time.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
Every time she told me about the ship she went through,
like with with.

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
Even Tyrone, Like she told me they had to convince
the label, like the fucking record on Tyrone.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
Yeah, I mean, when it's something new, nobody really knows
the vision. But you I mean, it's it's all a
part of it, you know, the convincing, it's a big
part of it, you know, getting everybody on the same teams.
Thank you for all of these beautiful compliments, and that place.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
I learn a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
But just like he's never said any of this to me.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
No, well, that's what we're here for.

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
But look, as artists, that is not want you go ahead.
We see ship, you know, yes, you know what it is.
We all created, so we see ship in our mind.
And she moves at the fucking speed of light like
she'll see shit in her head and start moving in
and fill me in later and be like, yo, my bad.

(01:35:03):
And I said, it's okay, I trust you, but I
think sometimes the people don't see the shit that you see,
and then like, you'll explain some shit to one of
your people. I got an idea and they'd be like, yo, yo,
you're bugging right, and then two three years later it
actually happens, and then those same people come back around

(01:35:24):
and be.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
Like, oh, shit is crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
And it's like I had to learn how to be
humble and just accept it instead of being like I
told you you should have listened to me, because that's
not classy. And that's what I learned from her too,
how to be tasteful and classy and be like, just.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Follow your ideas.

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
Like every idea she had that was insane, it's worked,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
So I realized like how.

Speaker 4 (01:35:48):
To collaborate with somebody to get out the way and
inspire their ideas. And it's been it's been a crazy journey.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
He's like that across the board though, just with everything,
every part of his life. Willing to learn or willing
to share, or willing to step down. Sometimes you have
a choice between being right or being a good friend.
And I see him choosing being a good friend, and

(01:36:17):
it's inspiring to me as well. So I feel you.
Thank you for that, thank you for trusting me.

Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
You know it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
I have a bit of erica.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Are you kidding me? This is an amazing collaboration relationship
for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
When did you start smoking joints with tobacco?

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
When you went to Amsterdam? Amsterdam? You have a song?
What you were saying just got turned out?

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
He is.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
He has never turned back. All right, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
So our show is about giving people they flowers when
they could smell them, they thoughts what they could think them,
and they drinks while they could drink them. We want
to give y'all both flowers to your face. Snoop said,
it's better than overdue.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
It's honor man, this honor man. I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
This is yours.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
Let me see what you get.

Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
Ericau, thank you man, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
It's a champion flower base. This is so special.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
No, thank you, guys, thank.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
You so very much. I want to bring you guys
something to it sold out, it is sometimes it sold
out whenever I say it is, oh ship.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Damn Sonny, you got the wrong Google. She just drops
whenever she wants she do a drop.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
Yeah, okay, So it's kind of when when I think
you deserve it basically okay, it's bottle pussy instance, and
the people talking about it on your show Lives, Yes,
talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
You're gonna like one.

Speaker 5 (01:38:17):
I'm going to like one right now.

Speaker 16 (01:38:19):
I can see this I bought, I brought the torch.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
Help me out.

Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
Okay, we like it to be like that. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Sold out everywhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
So so that is like a question, this is the
point where everything will change. Let you know, everybody got
seriously jokes and ship everybody got real serious relas joking relax.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
So well, entertainment is like have a product to sell,
and you know, some people sell liquor, some people sell
you know, marijuana, some people sell shoes. So what what
what what.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Made you want to do incense, And then the sentence.

Speaker 3 (01:39:27):
The answer, yes, I understand, I understand the question. Okay, Well,
incense and candles and things have always been a part
of my esthetic. I did not create it, any of it.
It was just a part of you know, if you
came into my world that that's what's happening. But I've

(01:39:47):
always been associated with candles and incense. And then there
was this urban legend, of course, as you all probably
know about that, my pussy make niggas change gods and jobs.
I don't know why didn't No, I heard it all
around the industry. It's like an urban legend.

Speaker 4 (01:40:09):
Is it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Have you heard that before?

Speaker 4 (01:40:11):
I've heard that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Did people tell you when they meant me not to
look me in the eye? See these are things.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
That I see.

Speaker 7 (01:40:19):
Did you see where my friend went in to get
the vinyl autographs.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
Of the room sweating? He said like, oh my god,
that was so very difficult.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
That is so funny. What a legend can do? You know,
a legend that I make men change jobs and gods.
Come on, that's only half the legend. Women too, children
and animals, any living breathing thing. I feel cheated on
that legend because they didn't tell the whole story.

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
Everything everything.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
I'm not sure we're talking about the.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
I don't know what we're talking about either, but we're
talking about everything.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
Taking a shot.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Taking already, but everything. You guys want to drive my ship.

Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
It's drink Champs, y'all, ain't no champs.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
Say something I knew. I knew when you older.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
But that's that's what it up with it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
So that's an urban legend.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
You're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
You know that it is about this. You've heard everybody
come on your show and say this type of thing
about me, right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
So what is true and what isn't true?

Speaker 3 (01:41:43):
Erica, Well, I don't think the magic lies between my thighs.
I think it lies between my ears. And I think
that's hard for people to understand or accept that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Is a mental connection.

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
Perhaps, yeah, it's mental. It has very litt to do
with any of these other things. But I think it's
a good thing to sell a bottle puts the instance,
because I think I'll all deserve it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
Sunny he said it sold out twice.

Speaker 5 (01:42:12):
Oh more than that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:13):
You can get it more than that, baby bout you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
We've been trying to get it for a long time
we wanted to support you.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Well, now you have it, will you.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Give it to him?

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Now he's never gonna bring it back.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
I'll make sure I give you one to thank you
very much.

Speaker 7 (01:42:31):
I'll make sure I get three sticks to Boris.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
Because the first thing I walk in the door, it
is like your boys, man, you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
I'm not gonna put it all on boards because obviously
I sent Borys in to get the autographed.

Speaker 8 (01:42:46):
So I was like, oh, go ahead, Brod.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
Do you do you think do you think people meet
you and are are nervous of that? Like like you said,
people get nervous of that, your presence, like you said,
people tearing your world apart, like people saying like people say,
don't don't don't look you in the eye, like.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
Breaking up your happy home? What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
What's talking about? More specific?

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
That's what they say, Like they say that about Janet Jackson,
about Janet Jackson too, they say that Jason Cary tells
you don't look at Janet's eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
You never you never heard of that. I heard that,
Nikim and I and they would saying.

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
Look, well maybe it's a lot of us then more
than you think. Okay, yeah, but I think the urban
legend kind of comes from just being a creative person. Yeah,
creative who is fearless, and it is saki okayak.

Speaker 7 (01:43:54):
All of what I just said, I think, Mama Juana
goes more with the conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:44:00):
With the conversation, it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
Is for you moment.

Speaker 3 (01:44:02):
I don't even know what I was saying just now.
You said, I trying to say, the urban legend is
what it is because there's something happening here. There's something
happening here. When I get into the lives of of guys,
something happening here. Do you see the pattern? No, you

(01:44:25):
don't see the pattern. You're fired.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
We do see the pattern.

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
Okay, Well, this conversation is over because I don't know
where it's going. All I'm trying to say is I'm
giving a gift to body pushing incense, and I want
everyone to enjoy it. I enjoy making them and enjoy
sharing them. And you said, but you didn't make it
make what make it? I made the incense, but I

(01:44:56):
didn't make the legend. The legend made itself.

Speaker 7 (01:44:59):
So the big question was, without being crude, how is
it made? How did the smell come about?

Speaker 5 (01:45:05):
How did the smell come about will.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
Most guys say that my vagina smells like strawberries and gunpowder.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
Man, it sounds like the sounds like a nice place
in the wild, wild West.

Speaker 3 (01:45:18):
So I tried toplicate there. You know, I don't know,
that's what they say.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
I don't know, she said, I don't know where they.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
Getting strawberries from. But yeah, that's what they say. So
I try to do picase smell strawberries and gun powder,
and I hope that I'm doing that.

Speaker 7 (01:45:38):
J all right, answer your questions, because they had all
kinds of reasons of how you got it together, and
it got weird.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
It got weird, got real weird.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
They were like they didn't have someone make their hands
their hand up.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
He got a question.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
We're here, God, come on for Haiti bro.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
No, maybe not, because he's gonna up come here and
sign here.

Speaker 17 (01:46:11):
He listen, listen that candle is it's not a candle.
I mean sorry, I was staying and I would definitely
use those every day in my house for the rest
of my life.

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
Go sit down the legend.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
For the rest of his life, he said, He said,
strawberries and gunpowder for the rest.

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
Of his life.

Speaker 5 (01:46:45):
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
Oh, man, that was amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
How would legends get started? I don't know, something's happening.

Speaker 14 (01:46:52):
Though something has definitely happened something. And early on you
worked with Tom Ford. Yeah, Like, how did that come about?

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
Tom is also from Texas, is a designer, and he
reached out. He's from Houston, Texas, Austin, Texas. He started
out in soap operas as an actor, but he reached
out to us and he had a campaign called White Paculi.
He wanted me to be the face of it, and

(01:47:25):
I thought it would be really fun. It was the
first kind of campaign thing that I did. Like that,
and I really love and respect Tom. What I love
about fashion and houses is who the current creative director is,
and the creative director is kind of the person whose
vision everyone follows. And it's really cool to have seen

(01:47:46):
him grow from Tom Ford or from the creative.

Speaker 5 (01:47:50):
Director of Gucci.

Speaker 3 (01:47:52):
Where it comes from, Well, he came from himself, but
he was hired as the creative director of Gucci and
then to his own brand and for very classy, very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Were you the first artist he collabed with?

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
Yeah, And then you had a collection come out with Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
After that yeah, Marnie, same thing. The brand reached out
and wanted to collab. Francesco Riso and I became very
very good friends because of our same kind of creative
eye and art and and fashion and shape and sculpture,
and that's how that happened. And we did a really

(01:48:38):
really cool line, very short run, but very fun things.
He used all my aesthetics basically and created a line
and gave me permission to create with him, so it
was his world.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
Yeah, what do you love more? Fashion or music?

Speaker 3 (01:49:01):
I love art. All of it takes the same process. Yeah,
I have to be doing it making something. Yeah feels
good to me. It's my therapy.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
Both of them fall under art.

Speaker 3 (01:49:16):
Yeah, I would.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
Anything that you're creative. Yeah, I came here. How much
you drink? I would have never thought you came here
to drink?

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
But he's in.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
He's a smoke really but you know, keeping up.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
He didn't drink the whole thing though she called you out.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
You gotta drink it, bro. Now I get to that man,
you feel refilm.

Speaker 5 (01:49:41):
That was the guy.

Speaker 7 (01:49:43):
Let me let me go into this record because I
wanted to go into this record. So I got the
test press of it. A bang bang, this is the
test press.

Speaker 4 (01:49:53):
How the funk you have that come on?

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:49:58):
And this cause there was a lot of controversy when
it came out, and I remember you showing it to
me in the studio when you got I think you
got the mix here in Miami at Criteria, I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
Okay, And I mixed it in Criteria. No no, no no,
I think you got it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
We got it.

Speaker 7 (01:50:14):
I went to the studio you were playing records and
then booming and you playing You was.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
Like, this is going to be bananas when it comes out,
and it was Foxy talking about what she was talking about.
Did you know when you made the beat when the
record was made?

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
Because you didn't make Quiet Storm, right, I haven't made
a quire storm.

Speaker 4 (01:50:33):
But I remember the session for this for Bank Bank
because I came to the studio.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
And one thing about Nori, like anytime we ever.

Speaker 4 (01:50:43):
Worked, it was always so easy because it was like
the second beat that I played, it was never more
than two beats. He was like, that's it, put that
ship up, let's go. And I remember that day I
came to the studio and I played that beat. He
was like, put it up, and then he was like, yeah,
this is hard. I'm gonna get my little sister on this.
And he went on the phone in the studio phone.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
I don't know what the fuck he was calling. He
called Foxy. You didn't know it was called no Idea Aead.

Speaker 4 (01:51:10):
She must have been in the neighborhood because she was
there in like fifteen minutes. He must have been death
Jam somewhere. She fifteen minutes, she pulled up beach playing.
She wrote like three different rhymes and I'll never.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
Forget to see see she three rhymes, and.

Speaker 4 (01:51:26):
Then Johnathan Lighty came through because I had to go
leave to go to another session. I think it might
have been even the dude, We're gonna make it with Jada,
but we stayed.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
Come on, we stayed. It was the same time, it
was the same era.

Speaker 4 (01:51:42):
Well, we stayed and waited, and she went in the
move and laid that rhyme and I was.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
Like she she went in there with bis yes, like
like like because I sold just in case.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
The stage the stage, Yeah, because I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
All of us helped her understand what happen. So Little
Kim and Mob Deep Drops, Quiet Storm remix. Right, this
is the remix of quemix the remix. Excuse me, I'm
bad Foxy At the time, I considered my sister right,

(01:52:18):
so I finally she was like, yo, let me get
on the record with y'all, because like we're mob Deep's competition,
but we're like not their competition, but but we're trying
to be up there right so here and it's like
this is more Deep producer too. It's like so it's
like it's not they can clearly like that, so they

(01:52:43):
can clearly ship that there's not no beef because it's
Alchemist that did it. So but I didn't in my
naive mind, I didn't know how far fox he was
going to take it. But she was just the first book.
So she was just like she was like I'm talking

(01:53:04):
about like she went right in, like talking about in
the boots. She had three different rhymes like she was
she was exercising in the boot.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
In my mind, like I.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Was like, oh, and I just have never seen nothing
like that, especially from a female. And I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
And the beating is like I wouldn't edit a man,
so I wasn't. I couldn't edit her, you know what
I mean. I couldn't be like, yo, chill, don't say that.
So it was it was weird because like she just
puff on and ship like.

Speaker 18 (01:53:37):
She just went crazy. She just even have to do
with nothing. Let me REI the mill Man. I was like, oh,
when you showed me the record, you were uncomfortable. Yeah,
he was uncomfortable. I really was controversy.

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
Stop, Like, I don't know the hook Bang Bang Bank.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
Is one of the best records before, but but we
had I have it on.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
Here last week and I just had to tell him.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
I was like, yo, bro, if I had to, if
I had like.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
A more of a like.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
Idea of where life was going, I would have asked.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
Foxy to calm down a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
I would have asked, but I didn't even know how
to because I was like, she came in just like
and then she had three.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Different ones.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Because I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
The moment she went was the one. Though I loved.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
Making making I loved making the record with Foxy, but
I do regret making that record because you still regretted
to the leg to a lot of drama. Let's unnecessary problems.

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
Obviously this is a regional thing.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
Yeah, this is it. Yeah, because you have no idea
what we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
But it's an interesting though.

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
Yes, and I asked you what you like more performing
or or recording.

Speaker 3 (01:55:15):
Yeah, it's it's different things. But I prefer performing. Thus
why we did this tour this way. A lot of
times as artists we have to wait. Like myself, I'm
a performance artist. That's I came from the theater theater.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
Yeah, I got that in my notes.

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
Yes, I majored in theater in high school and in
college HSBCU, I did Grammlin State University GEUS.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
I can't say that, right you round upon right?

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
Ought you knew what college is that. I went to
Grammley and State University, Louisiana HBCU.

Speaker 5 (01:55:52):
I majored in theater there, and I did that also
in high school.

Speaker 4 (01:55:56):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:55:57):
I had a lot of fun acting and creating. You know,
I forgot the question though, what was the full question?
Do you remember?

Speaker 4 (01:56:09):
Ship?

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
I forgot too, I was. I was into your answer.

Speaker 6 (01:56:12):
H What do we say performing or perform recording?

Speaker 5 (01:56:20):
I prefer performing.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
I think recording gives you an opportunity to perfect a moment,
where performing gives you an opportunity to just create a moment.
That's why we don't have any cameras in our shows,
or the press can't have any uh equipment, They can
only have.

Speaker 5 (01:56:43):
Digital What was it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
You said, You said disposable cameras.

Speaker 3 (01:56:48):
Yes, we want to be able to create that moment,
to stay in your mind and urge the audience to
write about it, you know, because I think that it's
very special, takes us back to another time, and I
love performing a lot. It's where I get the immediate
response from the audience. It's kind of like we become
one living, breathing organism together. It's a feeling that cannot

(01:57:12):
be duplicated anywhere else, not even on an album. Yeah,
it's different. There's a special feeling from a record, recorded
record or an album because you get to kind of
relive that over and over again. But the performance is
one time, and I really like that kind of energy.

(01:57:32):
It changes something from Yeah, from another point of view,
listening to it over and over again, you get the
perfected version.

Speaker 5 (01:57:44):
But performing is just once. It's only that time.

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
No cameras is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
It's like the lyricist lounge type of thing, right, but.

Speaker 4 (01:57:55):
Does it No, It's it's actually better because the crowd
is completely.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
You forget because we can't from the era.

Speaker 4 (01:58:02):
When it was no phones, right, and forget it when
you when you do showing now with no phones, niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
Can't catch nobody crowd surfing with them phones right.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
Hard you try to jump in with the phones, they.

Speaker 3 (01:58:17):
Had to like protect the phone for.

Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
So let me ask, because we live in real time, right?
We live in real time?

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:58:27):
So meaning like you know, you guys can perform a
new album and can see there's great reactions to certain songs,
but there's like subtle reactions to other songs. Do y'all
live in real time and say, let me chuck this
song or let me like replace this or what do
you do like? Or do you stick with it?

Speaker 2 (01:58:42):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
How does this go? Because we live in real time, really,
we can switch the record like and an album could
be live in a sense now.

Speaker 3 (01:58:50):
Yeah, so I haven't experienced any of that yet. Everyone
is so present because there are no phones that you
are absorbing every single thing, you know, and we're doing
the same thing too. We're absorbing the audience's reaction and

(01:59:10):
becoming even more inspired by that. What do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
Yeah, not changing nothing, but and is it live band
or DJ?

Speaker 4 (01:59:21):
It's like a mix okay, so we like nobody's heard
anything before anyway, playing with some of the beats live,
you got to see it. But like, like, like performing
with her is something I've never done, Like I've done DJing,
I've wrapped once.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
I got on.

Speaker 4 (01:59:40):
We we went first before the store, we went to Japan.
We did perform. We did a whole tour in Japan,
just practiced. And the crew is called the Cannabinoids. First
of all, shout out to the cannabin.

Speaker 17 (01:59:56):
S.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
One job born, Rob Free.

Speaker 4 (02:00:00):
I don't I don't want to see anybody are seeing
you know what I'm saying, Leon Brother.

Speaker 1 (02:00:06):
It's a crew.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (02:00:09):
She has the most talented motherfuckers on stage with her.

Speaker 5 (02:00:14):
We're all we're all digital band.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
We've been performing together for a long time and Alchemists
came in and just became one part of the thing.

Speaker 4 (02:00:23):
So she has aliens on stage with her. Everybody on
stage is like, I feel like an imposter because I'm
just I'm just triggering.

Speaker 5 (02:00:35):
So like that's fair.

Speaker 4 (02:00:37):
We went to Japan first, We did a chour in Japan.
We did, and when we went to Japan, we didn't
play the new album. We played like two songs.

Speaker 3 (02:00:45):
Maybe play two songs, two singles.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
That were testing out the theory of what just.

Speaker 3 (02:00:51):
Out like our chemistry because we performed totally live on
digital instruments.

Speaker 4 (02:00:57):
But you guys had never been so you were that's
what you're like it out. It's a band like her
crew to cannabinoids. They are insane. It's everybody has their
own like production station.

Speaker 2 (02:01:09):
Were you intimidated by that? Of course everybody is like insane, understand.

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
That, but you know, once he gets out there, she.

Speaker 4 (02:01:18):
Pushed me like, okay, shout out to exile, shout to
a rad beats you know about the like PC, right,
I've never done that. So when she had the idea,
she was like, I want you to play on your
MP and trigger the beats and like join in with us.

Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
I was nervous, you know, because that's not my world.
But she she's the type. She said, you're gonna be
You'll be ayad.

Speaker 4 (02:01:42):
And we went to Japan and it was insane, like,
I'm playing beats out the n P I never played before.

Speaker 2 (02:01:49):
Triggering ship in sync. Well, the best one is playing
the drums.

Speaker 4 (02:01:53):
Job Warren is playing the drums did of course, but.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
You know what she told me. You know what she
told me, if you fuck up.

Speaker 4 (02:02:00):
Keep going. She's from the jazz. Well that's analog. She
fuck up, she's jazz and theater. So she told me
from the gate, if you fuck up, just keep going,
pick it up, just keep doing.

Speaker 2 (02:02:12):
Just no fuck ups.

Speaker 3 (02:02:13):
Yeah, everyone knows what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (02:02:15):
Right. The audience is a nose that gave me because
you are weird than the audience nose. I've never done it,
so it gets me confidence, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:02:22):
And he's amazing on stage. I wouldn't know that you've
never done that before.

Speaker 2 (02:02:28):
Never.

Speaker 7 (02:02:29):
Yeah, and it seems like such an amazing collaboration.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
Yeah, we have so much fun.

Speaker 4 (02:02:35):
It was great. And now the tours now is like
we were able to go to Japan first and like
tune it up.

Speaker 2 (02:02:41):
Now we're playing the whole new album. You should probably
go back to Japan and give them the other the
now the refined version.

Speaker 3 (02:02:48):
We'll do that too, you know, we're playing it by ear.
I'm a very intuitive artist and I'm just lucky to
have people around me who are patient with my pace
as I am creating. And you have been that so much,
and I thank you and the Canalinoids and all the
other members of my Badu world, thank you so much.

(02:03:12):
It's a labor of love. Everybody sacrifices so many things too.
You know, when you have a head like I don't
know who the head of this thing is. But when
there's a it could be a duel like us, but
when there's a vision and the main concern is getting

(02:03:35):
everybody on the same page so that everybody moves in
the same way, and you look like you have a
group of people here that really believe in what you're
doing and have found fun inside of it. And that's
what it's all about, and that's what we try to

(02:03:57):
continue to create within our And.

Speaker 1 (02:04:01):
So did I name it like a new group or
it's not. It's like, it's just.

Speaker 3 (02:04:06):
I'm a live performer. So what people know about Eric
Ibadu are these albums. But what I do for a
living is perform live. I put out an album when
I have something to say. But for the past thirty years,
I've been performing eight months out of the year with
no brief I have never taken a vacation. Wow, because
it's what I do and I've been traveling the world

(02:04:27):
doing that. It may not get a lot of press
or everything, but I don't need a validation of that.
It is so I can live and survive as a
human spirit person.

Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
That's what feeds my therapy.

Speaker 3 (02:04:41):
It feeds, it feeds me. I don't have to feed
off of others because I have that, and that's what
I do.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
Can we see a future in a second project?

Speaker 3 (02:04:54):
I see so many projects, so many different other things.
He's a genius, and he doesn't want to talk about it.
He's trying to play this sweet old ship. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:05:06):
This man is a fucking beast.

Speaker 3 (02:05:08):
I gotta go the restaurant.

Speaker 2 (02:05:10):
Yes, yes, they know me.

Speaker 1 (02:05:11):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
So do you see another project?

Speaker 1 (02:05:16):
Y'all working on a project?

Speaker 2 (02:05:22):
It's yeah, it's a I'm saying new beasts all that.

Speaker 1 (02:05:33):
About.

Speaker 4 (02:05:36):
Let me just say this, man, it's been a fucking
long time man.

Speaker 2 (02:05:44):
How long have you been working on that fun the album?
What do you saying album? It's been a long time.
I came to drink camps one time and I.

Speaker 7 (02:05:52):
Was a visitor and you didn't say.

Speaker 4 (02:05:55):
You guys are in that fucking Orion's was old. It
was that it was with earthquake.

Speaker 2 (02:06:03):
Yeah, he just he came through. But listen, let me
just say this man, I known you a long time.

Speaker 3 (02:06:09):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:06:09):
You we made history. We did all that.

Speaker 4 (02:06:12):
This ship y'all got is special and I'm glad that
I was able to be a part of it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:17):
It has been a long time.

Speaker 11 (02:06:18):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:06:18):
Shout the Drink Champ All right, what kind don't forget
you made the Drink Champs record. He was just hearing
the work drink around the office. Did you know that?
Let me let me tell you how real nor is
take a shot. Let me just shot.

Speaker 1 (02:06:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (02:06:40):
I did the original beat for the Drink Champs beat. Yes,
right now, the Drink Champs beat in the place. It
was a song called Drink Champion here in my studio.
Defeat was for we Originally me and Norri did it.
It was like Carton said, Yo, little Wayne. He was
Wayne Wayne. He was just goddamn God, was so gangster.

(02:07:00):
He said, I don't give a funk beat, and we're good,
and I have a picture. I did a contract for
one dollar.

Speaker 4 (02:07:10):
One dollar because we had to put some money under contract,
and we cut it for one dollar for the other
remix for Drinks Camps. That's what I say, Bro, I
appreciate you because that was one of my biggest records.

Speaker 1 (02:07:21):
Man, Wayne, you want friend, and you called me, he said,
Lil Wayne.

Speaker 2 (02:07:28):
I was like, yo, you got to do that. Just
swist the beat and that's it. Like it was quite
more mad than him though.

Speaker 1 (02:07:33):
Oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:07:36):
It was like drink second.

Speaker 7 (02:07:37):
That's the thing we were saying at the time of
the studio record.

Speaker 1 (02:07:45):
This was show, but the second bet, the second was
It wasn't.

Speaker 2 (02:07:50):
A it was waiting for the podcast was a night
idea for everything.

Speaker 4 (02:07:54):
But like yo, I just want to say, man, I
appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (02:07:56):
I love you, bro, man. I appreciate you for letting
me live.

Speaker 1 (02:07:59):
I appreciate you holding me that. Remember that's my that's
my that's my little son that I brought.

Speaker 2 (02:08:03):
To your studio.

Speaker 1 (02:08:04):
He's older now, yeah, yeah, yeah, remember he was little
that my wife brought them to studio and we played
ping pong all day and you know your organic wine.

Speaker 2 (02:08:14):
I appreciate I love is a staple, man.

Speaker 4 (02:08:18):
I like it. Man.

Speaker 2 (02:08:19):
I appreciate why you doing this? Love the game. I
got my partner.

Speaker 7 (02:08:27):
Listen easily, both of y'all separately, Like Eric could be
here by herself. We needed her by herself. You by yourself, Yes,
but this is amazing together. Yes, yes, I appreciate y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
Both. So you're not change the group like you know
how like Bruno Mars and what you called they named
the group. You're not gonna name different. It's just it's
what is it? Abby, Al that's the name of the album.
Abby Allen know named the group bad too. I followed her, Lady,
she's my fear of this, this leader. Okay, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:09:02):
It seems like that's what's happening.

Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
Okay, all right, yeah, Now who you think got more hats?

Speaker 2 (02:09:09):
Alchemists or you and what?

Speaker 7 (02:09:11):
Like hats just like the words you know, he's saying.

Speaker 1 (02:09:15):
No, we don't have no hats, real hats, like real
like hatt because you guys are because I don't remember
seeing Alchemists without a hat never never, And I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:09:30):
Remember seeing throw it out there.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
I haven't seen you without a hat in a long time.

Speaker 3 (02:09:36):
I understand.

Speaker 1 (02:09:37):
Okay, So, so who you think has more hats?

Speaker 3 (02:09:41):
We not. We don't separate that anymore. Our hats are one.

Speaker 2 (02:09:47):
One happened equal hats.

Speaker 5 (02:09:49):
Okay, it's just our hats now.

Speaker 3 (02:09:52):
That's because of Abby and Al And it's kind of
like we don't try to fight about it. Anymore.

Speaker 5 (02:09:57):
At first, we.

Speaker 3 (02:09:57):
Did you know we would.

Speaker 1 (02:10:01):
Established Christopher Columbia, Chris Columbia, Columbia is.

Speaker 3 (02:10:13):
Columbius is crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:10:16):
So you have this represent before.

Speaker 4 (02:10:20):
But she had a crazy outfit she wanted me to
wear that was like it looked like a mixing and Luigi.

Speaker 2 (02:10:28):
Okay, I thought you would be really cute and it
was really.

Speaker 3 (02:10:34):
Pressing.

Speaker 1 (02:10:35):
I thought you she is a style king.

Speaker 2 (02:10:38):
I follow her lead. Okay, it's nobody, but not in
the c Let me just say. Let me just say this.
There's nobody Ilert in the whole fucking world with.

Speaker 3 (02:10:48):
The lepar tites. Not for me, not for me.

Speaker 2 (02:10:51):
I'm just saying, I can't you got wearing Leopard.

Speaker 3 (02:10:59):
He is good in everything. He's like sample size ladies.

(02:11:23):
Anything else too big?

Speaker 2 (02:11:25):
Oh ship, I ever heard of my life like.

Speaker 3 (02:11:31):
A strong like six seven sample size. And I tried
things on him and he lets me a couple.

Speaker 2 (02:11:38):
Of crazy faces. I had the yeah, are you suspended?

Speaker 3 (02:11:42):
And I'm not gonna get mad if he doesn't like it,
as long as you let me try to take a picture.

Speaker 1 (02:11:47):
You just take a picture.

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
The album cover you're gonna throw, You're gonna throw on
that ship.

Speaker 3 (02:11:51):
You don't know what's gonna happen for the album cover.

Speaker 4 (02:11:53):
You don't know?

Speaker 2 (02:11:55):
Yeh, so you got young divisions for the alcohol he
leaves man. Okay, no, but come on, but.

Speaker 3 (02:12:00):
If he tells me something like, hey, this makes me
tell it, Toby, I don't. I don't push it. I
don't push it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:11):
I wasn't ready.

Speaker 3 (02:12:13):
I couldn't see wearing some crazy ship now thatt Ill style,
very subtle.

Speaker 2 (02:12:24):
That want to laugh.

Speaker 1 (02:12:26):
Yeah, we'll take a shot for ours.

Speaker 2 (02:12:31):
You see them over empty shot?

Speaker 1 (02:12:33):
You see the mobs, this one that.

Speaker 2 (02:12:38):
She did, you get She's a good deal. So your meal.
Here's the super major question. This is a super major
Wait what you didn't pour that?

Speaker 5 (02:12:51):
I'm looking right at you.

Speaker 2 (02:12:55):
You're not going to be.

Speaker 1 (02:12:56):
Looking over me? Is this major?

Speaker 2 (02:12:58):
I'm looking at you, looking at me.

Speaker 3 (02:13:00):
I'm looking at you. I'm looking at you. Go and
drink and see all too shot?

Speaker 1 (02:13:05):
You did not?

Speaker 3 (02:13:06):
Absolutely did anybody see that? Yeah, okay, we ain't gonna
argue about this show. Yeah it's okay, I see it.

Speaker 2 (02:13:17):
Okay, okay, but you have to drink.

Speaker 1 (02:13:20):
Some of this is fully independent. This album is fully independent.

Speaker 7 (02:13:24):
Yes, that's amazing, but not so Who's disbute beauty, though
you don't distributed disabuted like you.

Speaker 2 (02:13:34):
Can be invidio, but still you have distribution.

Speaker 1 (02:13:37):
It still you have to have distribution.

Speaker 3 (02:13:38):
Are using the empire you I'm not gonnswer watching until
you use the right terminology.

Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
You know it's Les Lex, right, I just listening. So
who's the distribution?

Speaker 3 (02:13:51):
We can't really discuss.

Speaker 2 (02:13:54):
Why you take over.

Speaker 1 (02:13:58):
Distribute to discusion.

Speaker 2 (02:14:02):
You say you just the ship. This ship is amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:14:11):
You don't have to worry about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, you're worried.

Speaker 2 (02:14:16):
And then are we looking at a date? If we
have a date or no?

Speaker 3 (02:14:19):
Yeah, we do have to day.

Speaker 2 (02:14:20):
It's late this month, right, Yeah that sounded like forgotcha, bro.
She's like, yeah, yeah, whatever, buddy, Yeah yeah you gotta
I thought I heard the twenty eighth.

Speaker 5 (02:14:30):
No it's on the way something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:14:32):
No that means not this month.

Speaker 3 (02:14:33):
No, it doesn't mean that.

Speaker 2 (02:14:35):
I could tell I can tell stop this.

Speaker 1 (02:14:38):
Is it this month?

Speaker 2 (02:14:40):
If it comes to the show.

Speaker 3 (02:14:42):
No, you find out we say you guys in this
like we say everything in the show.

Speaker 2 (02:14:47):
Thriller, take a shot for the show. No, absolutely not
the show.

Speaker 1 (02:14:54):
I know you can't got this is my last one.

Speaker 3 (02:14:57):
When is the show gonna be? When is this gonna
be over?

Speaker 6 (02:14:59):
Twenty four hours? We got right here, episode me have
ten hours left. What is your favorite song to perform
for this album or just period period period.

Speaker 3 (02:15:17):
Other side of the game from Bodyism. You look, you're
not familiar with that album.

Speaker 2 (02:15:24):
I was gonna be wrong.

Speaker 5 (02:15:26):
You think it's gonna be Tyron.

Speaker 3 (02:15:29):
I think Tyrone is my least album to perform. The song, yeah, yeah, perform.
I think it's the most popular one, and people yelled
it out in the middle of ship.

Speaker 2 (02:15:44):
Shut the fun up. I don't want to do that.
I'm not like, shut the fuck up kind of in
your mind a little bit.

Speaker 5 (02:15:50):
I'm just like, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 (02:15:52):
I just said kind of in your mind kind of
that sounded like that a little bit in.

Speaker 5 (02:15:57):
Your mind in my mind a little bit. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:16:01):
Yeah, Tyrone is so popular that I've written all these
really thoughtful lyrics over all time, and it seems like
a joke God is playing on me. Right, Called tyrone
is what they want to hear. We don't care about that.
We want to hear called tyrone. So it's hard to
get out of the call tyrone box or any of

(02:16:23):
any kind of box when people really enjoyed and championed
what you've done. But working with Al has given me
an opportunity to at least be seen in another light,
a freedom as a producer. That's what I am. And
I don't really get to say that a lot because
there's no.

Speaker 5 (02:16:43):
Place to say it. But in his world, I'm writing
Al's wave right now.

Speaker 7 (02:16:47):
Really, I think we got to say it again as
a producer, Erica as a producer, yes, yeah, it always
be too many together on the album.

Speaker 4 (02:16:58):
Like I was about to play her beat, she was like,
let me see that ship came to the NPS, started
pressing keys, and I was just like, yo, go ahead,
and she remixed the beat that I made, like like
your beat ain't ship, and made.

Speaker 2 (02:17:17):
Don't do that.

Speaker 4 (02:17:20):
Effect it's on the album, Like, she made a whole
different beat to it. And then I played my beat
and she was like, I like this one too. I enjoyed.

Speaker 3 (02:17:29):
I enjoy making beats, I enjoy creating, and I felt
safe in that space with you because unfortunately, you know,
I'm in a room full of dudes and some girls,
but it's very hard to be in a left brain
game as a girl, you know, because I enjoyed it
just as much and.

Speaker 5 (02:17:51):
I am just as good.

Speaker 4 (02:17:53):
M h.

Speaker 2 (02:17:54):
Literally yeah, And you.

Speaker 3 (02:17:57):
Don't get to really say that a lot because not
a lot of people are like Alchemist, who knows that
he has a history of beautiful things behind him and
that me saying that I love what I do doesn't
take anything away from him. And that's you know, it's
a different kind of thing that I've dealt with in
my life. In this world of music, it's a very

(02:18:19):
left brain, male dominated thing, and I get it. I
also respect it, but I'm also here, I also have
something to say in this space. Yea, in this space.

Speaker 7 (02:18:32):
Yes, yeah, Oh, how did you come up with Alchemists?
Because when she was talking, that's that's I never thought
of that.

Speaker 2 (02:18:41):
It was like a friend when I was young gave
me the name and then based on the book. Nah,
that book is great. Yeah, it is a great book
to read. That book. It's a great book.

Speaker 1 (02:18:51):
Great, you can read it one night.

Speaker 2 (02:18:53):
In my life, you can read it one night. Yeah. No,
it's an easy book to read. Yeah, great book.

Speaker 4 (02:18:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:18:58):
Yeah, but I take it serious, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:19:03):
But someone just said call yourself, my friend. Yeah, rest
in peace, my man Bernard. Yeah, it was like, that's
your name, alchemist.

Speaker 2 (02:19:11):
But did you know what that meant over time? You
know what I mean? Not in that moment.

Speaker 4 (02:19:16):
No, no, okay, it sounded good, right, was it when
you and the Hooligans after that, like a couple of
years after, but he was around us around those days.

Speaker 2 (02:19:25):
Yeah, so we can't bloss over the Hooligans. That was
early listen early.

Speaker 7 (02:19:32):
You don't understand how long I was going through my
records to find the Hooligans records that I have.

Speaker 2 (02:19:38):
I have that record, Yeah, I have doubles. Yeah, ef
I e eighth EFN is a hip hopologist. I could
not get it because I have my records spread amongst
my crib, my home office, my my fucking living room,
my outside office, the studio.

Speaker 7 (02:19:59):
I couldn't find. And if I'm pissed right now. And
I have the stickers too as well. That was the
stickers getting signed as whack. So I'm gonna bring the stickers.

Speaker 4 (02:20:06):
But the Hooligans early days, you know, I was rapping
and you know, uh boy, Tommy Wyn, what are you
just like?

Speaker 2 (02:20:19):
Who?

Speaker 3 (02:20:20):
Absolutely?

Speaker 7 (02:20:21):
Theligan is amazing man, shots shots, don't get fired yo.

Speaker 2 (02:20:30):
And first of all, who's your partner in the hooligans again?
Sky Scott comm Yeah, my brother.

Speaker 1 (02:20:37):
Yeah, you guys know who that is. Yeah, you we
met him at the Juice Bay.

Speaker 2 (02:20:40):
We hung out. Yeah, I was bugging er yeah, Lemon
actress back then.

Speaker 1 (02:20:48):
That I want to thank both of y'all, man, because
I don't know. Did you have to do an interview
yet together?

Speaker 2 (02:20:54):
Nothing else?

Speaker 1 (02:20:55):
Just the first in this is special.

Speaker 2 (02:21:01):
This is your first interview together. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (02:21:04):
Like I wanted to brag on Twitter it's so bad,
but I was like, you know what, I don't even
want somebody to hate on me.

Speaker 3 (02:21:13):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (02:21:15):
This is the one time, you know, every guest that
we go on, I go on Twitter and I asked it,
but do you have any questions?

Speaker 2 (02:21:21):
But I don't want.

Speaker 1 (02:21:22):
I was like, I'm listening to the algorithms and I'm saying,
IM gonna skip that question on Twitter because I go
on black Twitter and it's not it's not the best.

Speaker 2 (02:21:28):
Sometimes what you ever go on best?

Speaker 1 (02:21:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:21:32):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (02:21:33):
I love it, but it's very negative.

Speaker 3 (02:21:35):
Jo, It's very it's very negative.

Speaker 5 (02:21:38):
It is so some positive and hilarious and it's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (02:21:42):
So you're going you go on black Twitter. I look,
can I go on? Listen? I really need to claim
black Twitter like like it's it's like a it's like
a it's a really different place.

Speaker 2 (02:22:01):
This regular Twitter. Right, I'm just being honest.

Speaker 5 (02:22:02):
I'm not trying to be on any particular.

Speaker 2 (02:22:04):
Twitter, right, but when you go on Twitter, you gotta.

Speaker 3 (02:22:08):
Go on Twitter. Yes, I guess I'm on black Twitter.
So I'll be getting canceled.

Speaker 2 (02:22:20):
Everywhere.

Speaker 1 (02:22:21):
I heard you say that. I heard you say that
that you felt this was a year ago or nine
months ago that you said that you felt like it
was tough to be an artist because of this cancelation thing.
Do you feel still feel like that?

Speaker 3 (02:22:34):
Like, I think it's the kind of equilateral against across
the board. Now you know where the fans have just
as much. Say I want to say fans to say that,
I want to say the people who are responding to
the music in the art. It's not just fans, it's
human beings who are very intelligent. When we are on

(02:22:58):
equal playing field, everyone is the celebrity.

Speaker 2 (02:23:04):
So right, even the fan fan can't be Yeah, So.

Speaker 3 (02:23:10):
If you choose to play that game, then you are
willing to be challenged in some type of way or
be held accountable in some type of way. And it's
not a bad thing, you know, because everyone keeps growing
and learning and talking and dialoguing. And the purpose of
my art is to create dialogue. That's what I want

(02:23:32):
to do. I want could be chaotic, but guess what
it sells. Bottle puts the in sense, oh ship about
said you didn't hear the bottom.

Speaker 1 (02:23:50):
An aggressive cub.

Speaker 2 (02:23:51):
It sells this.

Speaker 3 (02:23:52):
So whether the people are talking about negativity or positively
or in any kind of way, it's going to create
a dialogue that will lead you directly to my pussy.
This is just the way it goes.

Speaker 5 (02:24:07):
And I'm so sorry, but Buster Rhymes wouldn't like that either.

Speaker 2 (02:24:16):
No, he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (02:24:17):
I mean, what is it?

Speaker 3 (02:24:17):
It's just a word, pussy? What's the word? I mean,
it's I'm so sorry I didn't create it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:23):
Listen, just stop being worried about pussy.

Speaker 13 (02:24:27):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:24:27):
We we just did a wellmans retreat and we couldn't
even curse personally, curse. You couldn't take it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:33):
We couldn't use the N word every time we did it. Buppy,
I think it was not the word.

Speaker 5 (02:24:38):
Pussy, but y'all couldn't say nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:24:41):
I don't think pussy came up, mister. I'm gonna be
honest with you.

Speaker 1 (02:24:46):
I think but we were, you know, we were jogging,
we were doing things, but it was unnecessarily in words
being thrown out there. So every time you say an
N word, we had to have to do fifteen burpees
and uh we all stopped.

Speaker 3 (02:24:58):
Saying that because she didn't want to do the exercise.

Speaker 1 (02:25:03):
Damn the Yeah, but that is Christmas.

Speaker 2 (02:25:06):
She don't want to exercize, like you just didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:25:10):
Want to do this. But shouldn't that be the month frame?
Like how you're going to exercise and still have a
filthy mouth and we're going to be We want to
be well missed.

Speaker 2 (02:25:18):
We want to be you want to be better.

Speaker 1 (02:25:20):
We want to drink.

Speaker 3 (02:25:20):
You know, you say this as just as a human,
as Erica, as a person. Filthy is relative any word
we are, any word, it's relative. I mean, funk is
a great sentence, enhandswer no matter where you are, She's
a great adjective.

Speaker 2 (02:25:40):
Yeah, all right, I never thought.

Speaker 3 (02:25:44):
I know you don't. You never thought a lot of things.
We can build a whole wear all the.

Speaker 2 (02:25:51):
Ship you have. I'm taking the shot because I think
that that's what I take.

Speaker 1 (02:25:56):
Your wish you okay, and you're not skipping record.

Speaker 2 (02:25:59):
I'm to stop.

Speaker 1 (02:26:00):
That's at one point.

Speaker 2 (02:26:01):
Hold on, let me get my man one on together together.
I'm an escapist.

Speaker 3 (02:26:07):
Will never stop.

Speaker 2 (02:26:10):
Mm hmm. You gotta sure, Mohanna.

Speaker 3 (02:26:16):
I'm not gonna be white. This is what you're trying
to do, but we not.

Speaker 1 (02:26:22):
I'm not trying to do it. Come and hang out, no, Satan.
So let me ask you, do you still do you
still love this game? Hell?

Speaker 3 (02:26:36):
Yeah you do.

Speaker 2 (02:26:37):
I want to end.

Speaker 3 (02:26:38):
It's a sport to most of us who are really creative,
who create every single day. Every day I make something
in the studio, whether it's a beat or music or
a piece of art.

Speaker 2 (02:26:51):
That's how buster is.

Speaker 3 (02:26:53):
Yeah anything. Yeah, it's a sport to us. And it's
a friendly competition because we love the competitors. We love
who we are levering, leveraging ourselves with. So it's a
it's a sport.

Speaker 2 (02:27:06):
I like the sport.

Speaker 3 (02:27:08):
Yeah I did. It keeps me on my a game.

Speaker 2 (02:27:13):
Yeah do you still love the sport? Of course? Every
day everything you're better like I'm still. You know what
I mean.

Speaker 14 (02:27:24):
I want.

Speaker 2 (02:27:24):
I'm going to sit to me. I think we can
make somebody any time. Every time we work a new
CNN listen.

Speaker 1 (02:27:34):
I just did because you know, we've got a run club.
I did a run club, so I know when componere
age because we've been trying to do it's just hasn't
been together.

Speaker 2 (02:27:47):
But a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:27:48):
That's what I do. It's eventually do a little bit.
We're gonna do it right now. We're in the house, boy,
and have fun.

Speaker 3 (02:28:01):
Just go.

Speaker 2 (02:28:01):
I'll have a couple of drinks with you, guys. Okay,
A couple of drinks.

Speaker 1 (02:28:05):
A couple all right, that means we gotta do it.

Speaker 2 (02:28:11):
So in a certain way related that you came today. Yes, yes,
thank you, thank you so much. We're honored.

Speaker 3 (02:28:18):
Yeah, I've enjoyed myself today. I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:28:22):
I'm gonna take a shot for you enjoying yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:28:24):
You don't have to, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (02:28:25):
I will drink absolutely.

Speaker 5 (02:28:28):
I definitely don't want to mix these two things.

Speaker 2 (02:28:31):
I get I get I get it, I get it.
But I just want you to try.

Speaker 1 (02:28:35):
Black folks who don't do that. Black folks don't do
that don't make drinks.

Speaker 2 (02:28:39):
Listen, Latino people don't do everything you clear.

Speaker 3 (02:28:43):
Time I ever drank in my life, I was in
my forties.

Speaker 5 (02:28:47):
I'm now in my fifties.

Speaker 2 (02:28:49):
The first time you drank fellas? Wait, wait, the first
time you drank?

Speaker 3 (02:28:52):
Yeah, I was in my forties and it was with
Ringo Vershod Tomblin, Dice Smith, that's a mouthful, and Thundercat.
We were on tour together, all of us, and we
were in a hotel and they had a mini bar
and I was like, well, hey, I just want to
try drinks.

Speaker 2 (02:29:09):
Wait, Erica, you never drank until that point.

Speaker 5 (02:29:12):
No, I didn't into your forties my forties.

Speaker 2 (02:29:15):
Yeah, and psychedelics or so psychedelics.

Speaker 3 (02:29:19):
Well, I started everything pretty late. Yeah, I was really
very very pretty.

Speaker 2 (02:29:24):
Didn't psychedelics or something.

Speaker 3 (02:29:25):
No, okay, never until my forties all of that.

Speaker 1 (02:29:31):
Well, we're sorry for that's okay.

Speaker 3 (02:29:33):
I missed out. I'm catching up.

Speaker 2 (02:29:35):
No, I shouldn't do this either.

Speaker 3 (02:29:36):
Yeah, you mean I'm in my fifties now.

Speaker 2 (02:29:40):
Yeah, Well fuck drink champs.

Speaker 3 (02:29:42):
I'm fine.

Speaker 4 (02:29:45):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:29:47):
I mean this man is he on y'all side? What
you're trying to do?

Speaker 2 (02:29:53):
Manson? He's not he wears no hats.

Speaker 3 (02:29:56):
Well, I'm drinking the point.

Speaker 2 (02:29:59):
Goddamn, I can't get this fucking mic to work. I
think the poison is sucking up my mic.

Speaker 3 (02:30:03):
And I'm fine, but I didn't start to drink to
about my forties. And the first time was with a
Thundercat and Ringover Shot Tom and Dice Smith. We was
on tour and we there was a mini bar and
we had a mini bar and I was like, okay, yeah,
all my kids are like, go on, take care of

(02:30:25):
so now I can kind of be who I am.
And we took these shots of different liquors, the coors
and different bottles in the mini bar, and I can't
guess I was drunk because I told the guys, listen,
if a fire breaks out in this building, we're going
to have to know the route. Yeah, so I said,

(02:30:50):
this is how we do it. And we started crawling
down the hallway and they were crawling right behind me. Yeah,
it was growling in our forties. No, in our forties, no,
girls don't fart. Comparently with in our forties.

Speaker 5 (02:31:11):
Forties you're trying to get some raidings.

Speaker 3 (02:31:13):
I don't whooping your ass. Later on, in our forties,
we're crawling, and then we crawled down the hall. We're
in the the hotel was called the The Park Hotel.
It's in La It's popular. Artists stay there. And we
run into Spliff Star. It split yeah, bust runs with

(02:31:34):
slip Star throws what's going on? I said, we're doing
a fire trill.

Speaker 2 (02:31:40):
And you need to know the route to go.

Speaker 1 (02:31:43):
So he got behind.

Speaker 2 (02:31:46):
Crawling too, and we.

Speaker 3 (02:31:49):
Had a good time, and we crawled all the way
down the hall till we just got tired of that
and we sat in the little circle and started talking
about our feelings.

Speaker 2 (02:31:58):
What the fuck, I'm sorry about your feelings?

Speaker 5 (02:32:03):
Want to talk about that?

Speaker 3 (02:32:05):
Yeah, so we're just kind of chilling.

Speaker 1 (02:32:07):
An awesome night.

Speaker 2 (02:32:07):
It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:32:13):
There was nothing I saw wrong in that.

Speaker 3 (02:32:14):
Yes, and Mes and Flipp became kind of best friends
after that. You know, we were just great about feelings
and after how moms can give us cookies and ship
like that.

Speaker 1 (02:32:23):
You know, let's take a shot.

Speaker 2 (02:32:28):
Okay, how did we do this? Everybody? Salute shot? I
love you? Brother?

Speaker 4 (02:32:42):
What's the f of these?

Speaker 3 (02:32:44):
Who owns this? This is? Okay?

Speaker 5 (02:32:51):
Give me about all of this one time? Oh yeah, yeah, flash,
it's exquisite.

Speaker 3 (02:32:57):
Actually, that's the commercial right there. It's exquisite. Yeah, is
exquisite to me? A bottle?

Speaker 2 (02:33:07):
Just yes? Yeah, and I'm gonna take a shot to that.

Speaker 3 (02:33:11):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (02:33:12):
Yeah, you don't got to take a shot a long time.

Speaker 3 (02:33:15):
I'm no Twitter.

Speaker 2 (02:33:16):
Yes, I'm glad we got a chance to make this happen.
Had what up?

Speaker 1 (02:33:20):
Man? I love you brother, mister Lee.

Speaker 2 (02:33:23):
Where are you at here somewhere?

Speaker 1 (02:33:25):
I think the coog don't want to take bro you know?

Speaker 2 (02:33:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:33:28):
I love y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:33:29):
Man, you're alleged you're allerged, so are you? Yeah? And
you're so funny to you ain't take some of this?

Speaker 1 (02:33:39):
Is my wife, My wife been we've been together seventeen years.

Speaker 3 (02:33:43):
Right, Oh wow, you you're lucky mother fucker.

Speaker 1 (02:33:48):
So a shot. Since we've been doing the show, I
have never not once.

Speaker 2 (02:33:55):
I told her.

Speaker 1 (02:33:56):
I was like, do you know?

Speaker 2 (02:33:58):
She said, I know all of her song?

Speaker 11 (02:34:00):
What?

Speaker 1 (02:34:02):
Yes? So let's do it.

Speaker 3 (02:34:18):
Yes, thank you for welcoming us.

Speaker 2 (02:34:23):
All right, cool?

Speaker 1 (02:34:23):
Liv let me taking pictures and then new drops.

Speaker 2 (02:34:26):
Right yeah, okay, cool.

Speaker 3 (02:34:29):
It's a beautiful show. It's not nice spirits.

Speaker 7 (02:34:31):
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(02:34:53):
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