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April 29, 2016 • 106 mins

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN drink it up with Brooklyn's own Memphis Bleek. The guys drink it up and discuss everything from Rocafella records, Jay-z, Dame Dash, podcasting, D'usse cognac brand and a lot more! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(01:04):
Motherfucking radio makes We're the most professional, unprofessional podcast. Now
Drink Chance Podcast. Usually it's either your birthday or it's
New Year's but with these it's definitely your birthday. Makes
annoyed or is this new year? I don't know. This
looks right, man, Miami. And today we got a special guest,

(01:32):
one of the most loyal people I've ever met in
the world, not just the hip hop and you've been
saying that for years. Loyal, loyal. He's the type of
person that I don't got to speak to him because
five years ago by and I see him. It's the
same exact love of the same exact energy. He ain't
fake here, real legend, real dude. You know what I'm saying.

(01:54):
And we got him in the building. Let's make annoys
to motherfucker man. How you doing man? I can't complain. Man,
And my ya yo said, yeah, I want to salute you. Man.
You're gonna drink some rose with us. No no, no, no, no, no,
dren somebody du set okay, okay, let's and it rhymes

(02:16):
so it goes to gain rose And do say that?
Did you ever mix that? Did you ever try that? Man?
That's deaf juice. Yeah, that sounds like a juice. That's
a fact, that's deaf juice. So what brings you to
Miami Blake coming to check my j Great, let's make
even doing this. People been doing this quite some time.
So a lot of people don't know umble that you're

(02:37):
moving that douce safe for real? Yeah, we need to
hear how you doing this? Man? Man? They got me.
I are moving these drugs, man, same thing drug gang man?
You know, going to club, make an offer they can't refuse.
We bring casesunds of cases. Oh yeah, man, we're moving them.
It's moving. You know, it's been four years. Do say
that we were picking up some steam out here. We

(02:58):
got some of these guys shaking. Then they boots. They
spending unnecessary money right now? Is it the Bacardi's partners
with this? Oh yeah, they distribute for us. You know
what I mean, being an alcoholic party. It's a real
cool ship right there. Nobody else know that. You think
about it, like like, so how do you how do
you like you like that business? Morning hip hop? I

(03:20):
wouldn't say I like it more than hip hop, but
it's more lucrative than hip hop. It's like selling all
you man like like you it's that call you man. People.
Liquor is a freedom from a lot of stress people
deal with you know, break it down and you got
a bad day, a good day, you need something to drink,

(03:42):
you know what I mean? Like music is gonna be
there forever, but liquor it's there forever. And that's why
drink chaps we need a look at. Until liquor is
sponsoring us. We let everybody spants up everything out that
every cant company to get me under the table. It's okay,

(04:03):
my wife is letting you go down. No condom is okay.
But I think that Liok is dope. I think that
you guys were early on with the Armadale correct. Yeah, yeah,
that was flying wall. I ain't gonna front that was
like the worst Nika. How did you get niggas to
drink that? I have no idea the whole lines man,
and it works, Yeah, man, it works definitely, especially when

(04:25):
you put the botties in the video with the bottles
with the bottom. I still got a bottle of that.
I don't know is that exclusive Jam Street Team and
Rocketstree team. That's worse than the You got the original one, no,
because we had to promote it, but the original bottom,
the original you know it came back out with no no, no,
I'm back then you had a Caress ball. He had

(04:48):
a tennis wall from Caress one in where he signed
the autograph. So I believe you. I'll take the picture
and posted on I g so bleak. I kind of
get to this story, right. It was a time where
rocket Feller was the biggest in the game, right, Yeah,
And then there was a time where everybody felt on

(05:10):
new rocket Fellow was about to break up. I can't
say rocket Feller was over, but about the break up,
I had never knew. I was never privileged to this information.
I was a guy who got a rocket Feller change.
They never gave me the contract, Big said. Big said,
I didn't sign the contract. That's not how I remember it, y'all.
Niggas was so rich. Nigger didn't even kill like you
just want us. They're gonna change, like nig I want

(05:31):
my bets, you know what I'm saying. Front and I
think he had two deals. Heber that I didn't have
a lat of deal. He remember now he's been dropping
the different languages. That's the Japanese deals too, And I

(05:51):
want to be Japanese. So if you want to adopt me,
like he still at thirty eight. So there was a
time we went to London. Yeah, right. And in London
we were supposed to close out the show. Was supposed
to be either me or you close out the show.
And I think we had a drink somewhere we was
kicking it. He was like, yeah, wan't we go song
for song? We went, we went song for song. I thought,

(06:15):
me and you destroyed the show. I thought we killed it.
The next day we jumped on the private jet. Let's
make some noise for the private jacks. The same time
I was at Tim Westwood, I ain't gonna find I
think we did this trip with them twice because he
did first. So now on this ride coming back on

(06:38):
the jet, right, I think Dame said to you, why
did you perform Whole Records or something? And you was like,
because those is their hits that I got. And then
that Dame alluded to the fact like, well, you didn't
really do a good show because you did Whole Records.

(06:59):
I'm this so I totally understood, uh huh. And then
y'all had an argument, and you already know this was
the illest argument. Everybody on the plane acted sleep. Everybody
it was mad was on the plane. Everybody was on
the point were to kick us off. We're smoking because

(07:21):
I'm gonna keep it a hunt it. This is the
first time were at first the party was like, we're cool.
You gotta smoke too, you get to the such and
such like that's the first time. So I'm up rolling
everybody else and Dames said something else to Bleep, and
Bleek just stood there and I don't remember if he
was rolling, if he was praying. I don't remember what

(07:44):
Bleep exactly what it was, but was it I fucked
with Dang, he was my guy, and it hurt me
to see you just didn't see what was going on.
And I was trying to tell him, and what do
you mean by that? Like like you know how when
you try to it's like like I learned something right.
Put it like this, when the nigga funk with a
bit right and he lover, Now, you tell now you

(08:07):
see Shorty fucking with the whole wallet and you tell
him now he blamed you, it's your fault. They broke
ahead and then he get the herpie lip and he
don't even know, like you know what I'm saying. That
was the same situation, like just without so he was
trying to tell him that, my nigga, you're moving too
fast because I'm talking to the big homie. I'm hammering

(08:28):
through the pipeline, you know, the streets talk, and I
knew I've seen that, I've seen this day coming mind,
and I told all of them. I had a conversation
with each and every person. Now when you say that,
like I'm talking about beans, Pete Gunners, Freeway and then
and then that conversation was on the plane, but I

(08:48):
had a one on one with everybody and told niggas,
I see this day comes, trying to keep it together. Yes,
So he was like, that's why niggas don't fun me.
That's what you heard. That's what he said. I got
more like tell him because like he was coming at me,
and it's like, my nigga, I'm with you. I remember
supposed to be on this plane. That nigga, I'm not

(09:09):
supposed to be on this plane. I funk with hoping
them I could be home on their plane chilling king
because I funk with you. But then he tried to
come at me, and it's like, my nigga, when it's over,
niggas ain't gonna funk with you. Niggas don't funk with
you now the man come on my gene. So you
saw that, you saw that with Dame is at right now,

(09:29):
you saw that like not not, I don't want to
say right now, like I saw that like Yo, Nigga's
gonna be in this situation because he's going through a
lot of personnel. But what I mean, like with the
industry doors closed and the bridges burnt. I saw that
because you talking to major power players. Remember we was
here somewhere shout out Red, I gotta keep doing people around,

(09:57):
people around like you know what I mean, like looking
at all the power players that was around, Leo, Kevin Loughs,
Steve Stout like everybody. The people are the people that's
making it happen. Steve Bottleship like they're pushing the you
know what I mean, like they making it happen. And
you've seen him flip on Steve bottles as well. Seeing
everything I've been around. I've been around, Man, I'm gonna

(10:20):
napkin somebody I've been around. My talk. Wow that that
I ain't gonna lie. That was like you never you
ever like you let you happy that you're there, but
you just wor you wasn't like I was like, for you,
just the way they was going at it, and I
ain't gonna lie. Bleek was cutting them deep, like that's
why this ship is gonna all be over? How private

(10:46):
plane ship it's gonna be over. Niggas ain't working with you.
Dame like to his face, this wasn't attack between O
two and oh four. This wasn't a two way, my man,
he said to his face, he was like, look, nobody
really with you. When we stopped working with you, everybody's
gonna stop working with you. And ship is real. So

(11:10):
I actually see that nobody can feel awkward. And I
couldn't tell nobody because like, who do you tell? Like
and and in public, you know, Dame and Jay and Biggs,
they did a real great or protecting their business. You
understand what I'm saying. And so I didn't believe the
rum was when like, you know, I'm down with them

(11:32):
and they're saying, yo, you know they're gonna break up.
I was like, I've just seen them. It was in
the same spot. They didn't save us up to each other.
But who's gonna be in the same spot? But wait,
but what about the film Death of a Dynasty rights
like that that's a nail in the car. Why would
you like that? That showed us? I don't know. Was
that a prophecy? What was going on there? Who knows?
I never even saw it, read the script, participated nothing.

(11:55):
I was in that girl. I was like bouncing there
that was giving me out text. I wasn't like five
Rocket Feller movie. I ain't funk with that. Just the
title death of a Dynasty and there ain't nobody dies crazy.
I did not realize you wasn't never they killed you
and stay property one. Yeah they killed, they ain't killing.

(12:15):
I killed myself because I didn't read the script. I
just came in the spot ire shooting the movie. I
want to be the gangsters nigger killing everybody like I.
You bled, so I'm like, I cool, I'm bled every
day they're giving us a little short shirts. So the
day I was supposed to die, like now, y'all think
it's got to rewrite this, Like, are you fucking kidding me? Now?

(12:38):
I died. I can't kill me did fresh movie and
they wanted me to get robbed in the movie. I said, listen,
we're changing that. Listen, we're changing that. You know, I
earned my rights, how I'm sorry, man, you can't do that.
So you didn't do Death of a Dynasty. You did
do stay property to one and um and I did

(13:00):
what's the other one with Kevin Hard and I wasn't
there to paper soldier, soldiers paper, So I don't want
to do that though, Man, duck thing for like probably
like three months, and you just rhymed that you didn't.
You didn't Jay the reason that made me j made
the call for that movie. If it wasn't for Big
hold me that I would have been in that because
he was even in there for slight second, just like
bouncing to a beat. Yeah, that that movie changed my life.

(13:22):
So that, Yeah, that was a big situation with Dame
two because he felt the way like why Hold say
something and you make it happen and then I say, son,
and you don't make it happen because you know, because
because like you know, you got a lot of pressure
on you. I think you had a lot of pressure
on you. Since he said as long as I'm alive,
Bleek would be a million there. No, it was before that.

(13:43):
It was before that. They just said, Yo, Bleek's gonna
be a new rapper, new improved James Waite. Did I
say that? They said you said I wanted to be that,
like you know that was on the intro of the album.
Then I come on spin so it's like, but I
ain't gonna be the new it proove Hold, I'm blood
like you Hold Like it's a lot of pressure being

(14:06):
put over. Yeah, hell yeah. How many people call you
for jay Z feats your day? N Nobody? Nobody don't know.
They know they're not getting that. You got your curve,
game is good and they gotta be. You gotta seeing
a lot. You gotta be a certain calibern nigga and
it gotta be worth it because James is doing the
versus what it take to get j in the studio

(14:27):
like Niggasama. How many calls do you get for favors
like people, oh my god, can you can't hold sign
my guards? Sisters? How many calls to get to that man?
I don't put so many people in their place because
he's really your friend. Yeah, Like I see you all

(14:47):
together and I'll be like, y'all, that's the friend and
that's what people get it twisted. A lot of people
think me and Hold don't funk with each other because
what he ain't on my I g ain't. I don't
will snapchat. We real homies, like when you see your brother,
you take a picture of your brother out there, you
know what your brother looked like? Yeah? Yeah, a little

(15:11):
bit some more. You got me breaking up some real
deep ship man, so bleak your first album, oh my nigga,
and no, that's the first time we spoke right right.
You called me. He was like I need that and
no ship, I need that such aff I was in Miami.
I was like, I just let him go. Damn the

(15:31):
other bottles going already got damn man Like yo, so
how how how how did that your first album? When
I was on def jam as well? Correct, So how
did it feel doing that first album? Man? It was
a lot of pressure. Everything was being e segul. I
did the album without without no budget, nothing, just me,
me and Linnies. When Brial locked in and just made

(15:54):
it happen. Because Beans came up, they put a more
pressure on the nigger because he did Reservoir Dogs and
I'm sitting there like fuck this this snigger eating how
you spitting this? And he was at that s so
Ja like yo, I want you to do crewe love
so you know me, I said, cruelove off. Yeah, I smoked.

(16:16):
We now give a fuck snigger come on there spitting
that that monopoly ship was like vers. So Beings put
pressure on the nigger to wear everything in Rockefeller and
deaf Jam was Beings. And you gotta really give him
credit because the only rapper in history to get on

(16:37):
the tour with no song, no record, no beat and
spit a fucking acapella in front of twenty thousand and
not get bulled. Niggas couldn't even do that at the Apollom. Yeah,
y'all know there was a fake Beanie sequel going around
right no Miami. Yeah you know that was the rep
for Rockefeller. Yeah, I don't know, maybe not, but there

(16:58):
was a dude going around. This was before or Internet ship,
and this dude's going around saying he's been he's taking money.
He's on Counts Underground mixed not the six showing everything.
He freestyle. He looked like Beans. No. This is the
thing that we didn't know because Beans was heavy on
the mix tapes. We didn't know what he looked like.
So then he came to my store, crazy because you
came to and he's dropping a freestyle my mix tapes

(17:19):
the real Beans, and he's doing blah blah blah blah
and and that. Something just didn't feel right, So I
called I think it was you were talking about big Face.
I think I called him Beanie. Looked like he's fat.
I said, this guy skinny. You know. I don't know
what happened after that, but this dude left town. But

(17:42):
he was going around. He was getting money. Now, what
I want to ask you, Blee, is was there ever
dip set drama? Was there ever real dip set problems?
Like Nah, That's what confused me because it's like we
meant at the end of the day, right, if it's
a problem, we're gonna fight. Usually a gun come out

(18:03):
because you got punched in your face a lot and
you ain't like it, so you ain't got your gun. Right,
Nothing ever happened because he's down. We in baseline every day,
we're in the office every day, niggas going on little
trips every day with the pr or everything. Nothing but
soon the niggas rakafella separated. It's fun these niggas fuck

(18:25):
the niggas. I still want to know what the drama
was about, Like, I don't know like like Karen, I'm
Karen Sivil. She did an interview and she said, as
about parking spot, yeah, Cam declined that said, I highly
doubt that said. I think she said, um, something is
a parking spot, dip set. I want to know how

(18:48):
that exists. Holding't drive a car since nineties six parking spot.
Let's make some noise for that, man like that. That's it,
don't because I remember seeing like like like you in
the club. They're in the club and nothing happening, like
not never happened. Nobody got punched in the face until

(19:09):
True Life came. But yeah, I mean big no, True
Life was punched niggas in the face, like but then
you know what other than that, I don't know, like
so you never like had an argument with none of them. Nothing.

(19:30):
I went to the movie when they was doing State
Property too, and I had to face to face talk
with Cam, damn everybody, and I said that them niggasn't
let them know, Like yo, my niggas are the problem
with the big homie because if it is, we could
go outside, shoot it out, shoot the fair one gun
play had whatever niggas wanted to do. Niggas just looking
at me like, n ain't nothing. We're just trying to
get money. Everybody want to we got families to feet.

(19:53):
I respected that, but then when I walked off the trailer,
got my car and parked at my crib. It was
nine disc songs later. That's rapids. Have you ever seen
them recently? Like, no, I've seen I seen cam at
a at. I think it was a red Bull show.
When I was with Judge Blazon Gool, he always showed love.
You're here cool nigga, him and Jimmy like a nine

(20:15):
niggas ain't gonna what They're gonna run down or blizzle.
I keep that a better run. This make some noise complete.
I don't know. Yeah, as I was speaking you up earlier,
but oh no, now that's good. Holy moli guacamoley. This

(20:35):
is how it's going down. Man, so bleak, you're doing
the do safe thing as y'all signing tax Stoners. That's
going down, tax Stoners. Do say my Fia, make tax
say my FIA's podcast. Face us up. Yeah, he's a

(20:56):
great guy, man Taxes might dude man so um id
is another story that when tax actually filmed Hove in
the office like he filmed Hole like people thought that
he did tax Stone podcast and there was people like
Elliott Wilson up that was hating, hitting Hove and saying
it's yo, did you do tax Stone podcast? And did

(21:18):
you hear anything about that? I heard it. I don't
know what truth is to it. I heard trying to
let to shake hold up, like, Yo, how are you
gonna do tax Stone ship before me? And if a
want to do tax ship before him, that's something Brooklyn
Ship shout out. But we heard Elliott it was a

(21:43):
little hated about that. We heard he was a little
heated and he sent in an email or something, and
I don't think the homie hit him back. Since, Man,
that's bad. You don't know. If this you're not, We're
gonna make some noise. That's I gotta watch my black.

(22:09):
But let me tell you about Rocketfeller. Man, y'all dudes
really had it like Rich and Pole and like do
y'all dudes was really balling. And it was too much money.
My nigga, I was too young. I wasn't preparing. It
was too much money around. Do you ever think about
all the ship you did? Yes, I'm thirty years old.
How it WoT the same but yo, you have a

(22:32):
think about how much. I mean, I did a lot,
but I didn't have a cruel niggas that was platinum.
Like it was just me like I had I was
golden capone. Let's help me out somehow, you know what?
He want to go to jail? Oh my god, So
I'm not head dol though, Like what y'all had you
gonna go? I got your plaque, I was, yeah, let's

(22:53):
make some noise for he was golden beans was gold?
I think anyway, it was gold. I think can yo
cold super platinum like y'all dudes, was like, I don't
know if that ara could ever be recreated. I think
cash money came close, but it wasn't. Even though like
some of y'all was beefing. It was always felt family

(23:15):
orientated like Baseline felt. It was felt felt ill. It
was like if it was any animosity, trust me that
it was something under the table. Ship was never spoken about,
was never because when niggas was around each other, everybody
was one hunt that's right. So all that other ship
that came out that should be just to sell records money.

(23:36):
They're like Nigga's got Nigga's numbers and you know how
to find everybody. We all in the same city. Like
think about it. You this a nigga. You recording on
fifty knife Street. He recording for real? That is that salt,
like you know what I'm saying. Like, So we're in
the same city. So that animosity ship was never that

(23:59):
was always fairly with the team man, we talked through
each other. I love my niggas man, Beings, my brother
the gunner's need beans when Beans wild out and had
to hurt you, because I know I know what type
of person it hurt me. You love beings too. I
love that's my brother. Any interview you ever see, Beings
even came at me. But I got me hit by
the forty four, right. But when you see that, what

(24:23):
was the first thing you thought? He was like, something's wrong?
It's you know what? And that's the thing, my nigga
stress and make a nigga do things you never thought
was possible, Like you know what I mean, it's like
unhuman strength and to give you like yes, it makes
people do different things and reacting certain situations. So I
never held any malice towards him, towards it because ain't

(24:44):
like he talking on a personal shame like a sucket
like so it's like it was just so how personal
or or how personal can I take that? And that's
my brother. You can't erase histor that that go out
together that part of um. That was a period where
no leave that in here. That that was a period

(25:06):
where it was dark for me because I knowing beings
and I know how you love them, and you ain't
gonna love no fake nigga. I ain't like like like me,
I know even twenty years. I want to say ten
because we want to see ye, but I know, like
and I knew that really wasn't beings neither, like it
wasn't him. So it was a dark time for me
just seeing those interviews and seeing that because I wasn't

(25:29):
one of the dudes, like I was the only dude
from Queens that was on streets watching I was the
only dude from Queens that did like five movies with them,
like they always showed me love and so for me
to see that it turned that way because it's like
it was just it was bad for me. It was
like as a fan, I didn't look but I knew,

(25:49):
I knew it would be worked out. I didn't think
whole would ever forgive him. I thought he would forgive
him from far. But when I seen them on the stage,
I was like, that's that's the that was the biggest
monumental thing that you know, anybody can do at the
end of the day, that's right. Forgiveness is everything. And
we're all family, man, we go out together. Man, cousins,
fuck up, brothers, fucking you know what I'm saying, Like,

(26:14):
you're not going to disown your family members. And like
I said, man, we spent twenty years together. I think
I'm at beans. I was seventeen years old, money, I
told you I'll be thirty eight. God bless you're not.
I mean, like, come on, brother, that went through a us.
So when you think about it, right, like now that
you're grown, man, and I think I think, I think

(26:36):
you always had a voice in Rocket Fuller. I just
think people you know, you was always smoking weeds and ship.
That's what people didn't realize how smart you was. And
that's the thing I say that because you ain't. You
ain't a new smart niggers. I used to always with
you like you ain't new smart. I was dealing with
this nigga back in the days like this, Nigga is
a genius, Like like, you know what I'm saying. But

(26:57):
he had the street Nigga road, like you know what
I'm saying. You can tell like all right, he got
the burn on him, you know what I'm saying. So
if there's anything that you regret about the Rockefeller, you
know when it went away, was one thing that you
wish you could have fixed just being more prepared. My nigga,
I wasn't prepared for the breakup or prepared prepared for

(27:18):
the whole together, the whole run. If it was your choice,
would you have kept it together? Yes, definitely, I tried.
I had that conversation with Beings. That's why I was
saying to you, like I remember when Beings when he
first felt his way about Jay. I don't know if
it was the exact moment, but it was the record
when he did it with Kelly and we're supposed to

(27:39):
put Neo on the record, but he did it with
Kelly Beans and this is when Yes, okay, so you
know it was a little thing about that niggas ain't
feel at but they went with it, and I guess
you know, he wanted to hold to do something and
they didn't do it. And I'm telling I remember having
a conversation, a real conversation with Segue, and I'm like, Yo,
my nigga, I just dropped five three for hold on

(28:01):
one joint by itself, not on none of my records.
He ain't getting my video. We did think about it
when I did. What you think of that video? I
had to split it in half and do my hood
to your hood because Jane want to do the video.
That's my brother. If he didn't get in my ship,
he got real like any That's how I looked at it, Like,

(28:25):
my nigga, I'm not mad, like was harder on you
because the same I always felt like that all the time,
Like all the time, my nigga gonna go to Hove
and tell him a story. Nigger, I gotta be bleeding.
You can't hope is fronted on me. No, he's gonna say, Yo,
don't walk down there no more. Stay the funk over there.
I bought you a plane. Why the fund you walking

(28:46):
down there? But let me coming off is bleeding. Oh,
We're gonna send the dogs after that. That's that's Jay
Like it gotta be serious. Anything else is like my
nigga avoided. You know, we ain't trying to get into
the bullshit. And it's like where everybody with freeway. I
told free the same thing, man, nigger, like Yo, Hove
is just out of space. You know. It's certain places

(29:07):
where artists get where the label be like Yo, Now
he can't do no more videos. He did too many videos.
You can't do no more. He over succeeded itself. Like
I remember Job, We're supposed to do a video like
think about this Job. Did a record with Job Murder
for Life. My record jock called me, Yo, bleak the
ship hard. Let me put it on my album. I

(29:27):
let him put it on his album and they got
shot a video for my record with Black Child and
Tom Murder without me makes Job. I never said that
I felt the butt on the record shot of the
Queens anything. He was still a body mad forgiving. He

(29:54):
was like, I gotta get something. But you know certain things.
You just know, man, that's a decision he gonna make.
And you, as a man, got to do your thing.
You can't help nobody accountable for your situation and not
everything is personal that you can't point fingers. Man. And
then how about with the CEOs like if would you
want to keep? Kept it the same way with Rocket,

(30:17):
Fellow Deaf Jam, with the original Deaf Jam, with the
Leo cons the Randy Akers. That was my fana what
that was the best label at the time, man, you
kidding me? We had everybody remember Jazz Lady Jacks, everybody. Man,
we a say Sam, but he wasn't. He wasn't He

(30:38):
was Jam. He wasn't Rocket for you darn. Every successful
team got a piece of that team with them. Yeah,
they do, they do every successful team right now, welcome

(31:10):
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so fucking fucking happy to have you here. But I

(31:32):
also got to bring up the time you lined me up. Alright,
just the kid. Know, sometimes you say you're the lamist.
If you're the lamist, what does that mean? By the way,
that means if you don't know she is real here,
let's leave all that. We're leaving all that. So Lami's terms. Yes,

(31:55):
So line up means like you set a person up
you like, like for a stick up, But it's pretty
much the same thing with Bleek did to me. Let
me get to the story, Let me get to the
first off. That's why I wanted to bring up his
first album, Like when the nigga is on your first album.
This is type of relationship you're supposed to keep, and
me and him have that right. One day Thanksgiving. The

(32:18):
day after Thanksgiving, my kids got the hubble boards. I
know I told this story, but we're keeping this story.
Were telling the game story. No, this is because he's
the lineup. He's the you gott He lined me up.
So look, my kids is out on the hubble boards.
I'm upstairs being a fat boy. After on the whole
sweeper tape pot. My intentions was the only have two pieces,

(32:41):
you had the whole. Somehow it was all gone. It
was all going. But I'm looking around making sure I'm
not guilty. My wife is somewhere. I get a call.
It's an unknown call, so I'm like hello, think no, no,
I ain't say hello because I just answered it because
I'm thinking it's a jail call. Because you know, when
in the jail call, you gotta do say h they'b like,

(33:01):
this is a call from such and such and such,
so you know that's how thin it is. But it's not.
So he's like, oh it's Jay like JA who like Z.
I'm like whatever that right? Boom? So now he called.
He texted me said I'm gonna text you my number
so you can call me back. So I played along

(33:22):
with the game. Okay, but if he would have told
me you O g one gave me the number, TA
gave me a number. Linneas back. Guys all people who
are messed with, by the way, it's just we're not
on phone number basics basis. So he says, I got
your number from Bleak. I was like, oh my god,
oh my god, y'all sad because do you want to

(33:45):
get a call from Ja, right, you want to because
this is the biggest dude than ever, But you don't
want to get the call unexpectedly, Like it's the most
horror it's the most horrible uh good feeling in the world.
It's a great feeling. But you're like, oh my god,
this is and Bleak. You you ain't sent me a text,

(34:08):
You don't give me a two way you can hit
me in my two way my tool way still work.
You know why, because it wasn't about nothing. He called
me right like, Yo, you got a no number. I'm like, yeah,
I speak there. I just spoke to you, like a
couple of days ago. I'm like, yeah, I just spoke
to it. What what's up? Ain't they I wap it like, nah,
he just did this end of you. Man. I just

(34:28):
want him to get it straight. You know, I don't
like last. I just wanted him to notice. That's what
he told me. That's exactly cool. I'm a serious number
right now. That's exactly when he told me. And by
the way, I spoke to people that was there that
night and Hope was right. Let's make some noise for

(34:49):
Hope after the ship come out. Because I didn't know,
like I didn't, I didn't bring up this story. Tax Stone,
big up, tax Stone wants again about tax So tax
asked me the story like at the very last thing,
I believe it was actually walking out the door. If
you listen to the interview, I'll be like, yeah, man,
thank you for having me like you one last thing.

(35:09):
And I said it. I said what I said, what
I heard. So the actual people who was actually supposed
to do it or was supposed to be involved. He
called me and was like, nah, that's not what happened.
And I was like, God, damn it. You know what
I'm saying. But at the end of the day, that's
not the point. The point is getting a call from
jay z is is how do you say? I don't

(35:32):
know how I don't know this word. Um, they didn't
make this word yet, Like they didn't make this word
yet because you something happen, because he could have had
Colleen called me. I know Colleen ain't back there, but
she shocked up shock uh like didn't get at somebody
he didn't. He called the breck like it was like

(35:53):
I was shocked, Like I told him. I said, it's
I know, I'm a grown ass man. I said, how
do I fix him immediately? How do I fix it?
And hope set? I said, you want me to go
do the interview? He said no, because then it's gonna
look like I started you or something. So I said,
words a hole, he said, but if it ever comes

(36:13):
up so now here was it makes me a genius.
I made a record about it, that's right. I made
a record about it so they can ask me about
it every way. I go and Hope I corrected it.
Please take me off the block list. Let's go the
reason why I still know I want to block black
the black list because because it's that I'm just playing.
Hope always been cool with me. But there's crazy ship.

(36:35):
We're do a tax stone in Charlotte Maagne were interviewing them, right,
and if we're talking and if we didn't release it
and we're talking about whole we're just saying some ship.
And then you called that's it. Listen, this is getting bleak.
Call was like, yo, blak, everything's good drinking. I was
same yo, But that's but that's crazy for you to be.

(37:01):
I don't want to say best friends because that's like
a dumb term for you to grow up with a
man who was probably the most important person in cultural history.
And that's what's so ill man, Like I really didn't
grow up with Jake because me grow up like I
remember being in the building, young nigga, thinking them out
there moving packs, like I'm doing my thing, coming to building.

(37:23):
You know what you're doing. I'm not getting money, nig
What you mean when I'm doing it? Like what you're moving? Sure,
I think about pay throw my ship incinerator, incinerator and
the projects is the garbage for those living projects, you
know what I mean. So you throw my ship away.
So I'm like, damn Modac, I need that bread. I
want to go buy some ship from talm D's like
and they're gonna give me fire honey, humb crazy. Yeah, okay, okay,

(37:46):
take this fine and going the crypt. Stop wasting your life,
little nigga. You bugging like that. So he always been
the o g before the rap ship, and the Rap
ship just so happened. Man, I've seen the video. He
would cane and them like snicking living my bill that
we tell us it's old from five E. Yeah, this
makes a noise for five from five meet me, fat Jo.

(38:11):
We're starting Alluminati. Were saying that if you no Snapchat
twin Snapchat Paris started, no none of that ship all
right me fat Jo and both holes is from five E.
We're gonna make Alluminati. I don't know if it's Alluminati,
but we're making a section of a nouminity. So you're
from five E. You know what I'm saying. We're looking

(38:32):
for you because we need interns for five something. We're
starting something. So yeah, you gotta put the question for him.
I just want to know, like the name, where did
they come from? What I heard? I heard man that
comes from straight from Memphis. I only been there one time?
How ill is that I've been a Lymphis? You ain't
been back on time? And this is when Jay had

(38:54):
ain't no nigger, So think I wasn't even there because
they knew me. They ain't even know who the funk
I was. So before beyond say this, before everything, they
just happen, just claimer, just claimer, shorty, Like y'all want
to welcome y'all to Memphis, Tennessee. I want to welcome
you to make an easy money pimping holes and stoff
tenn See. So I'm like, huh, that's my name. Because

(39:18):
me and J just had a conversation. He like, yo,
it's just bleak. He like, yo, nobody buying the album
by a nigger name. Bleak. Bleak means like playing like
by wins over deserted like so he like, nobody buying that.
You gotta have another name. So I'm like, Nigga, I'm
bleak everywhere I go. That's what they know me by. Like,

(39:39):
I can't just change my name. So when Shorty said that.
I said, that's me. I want to make easy money.
I want to pimp the hole. I definitely got styled.
That's me. And you still ain't got a record with
a Memphis nigga. Yeah, now you can't say that because
a j G is on around here. I was just

(40:03):
that's my next question. Like you, you had the foresight
to see that the music industry was going to the South.
He was the first dude to have two South people
from New York or he was from New York. But
you had Trick Daddy and you had t C. I. Yeah,
that's because, man, I've seen it come in my g
with the whole No Limit movement, the first kiss his money.

(40:23):
He'd be seeing a lot of he's been seeing like
I remember me, Memphis Blee, you put hold on to
Juveniles record. No, No, not not that that the ship
the radio put us like. But my thing was, I
remember being this is before Mr coosign to No Limit.

(40:45):
I remember being I think it was Greensboro, North Carolina
or something like that, and they was playing that Mr.
Coal record. The man right here, my nigger. It's like
the club exploded when the song came over, and then
anybody came back to life. So I'm looking like the
funk kind of be was that? Like I need one
of holes? So it just so happened. I'm just sitting

(41:06):
in the crib. You know, Trick I sucked it all,
Trick albums, every book that dougs that they ever dropped.
You already know that's that's my nigga. And then Ti
I was coming up. He had the twenty folds, you know, moving,
so Jess Blaze was playing around hire Beat. He didn't
even like to be I come in his studio, Yo,
my nigga, what's that? He's like some showers. I'm like, nigga,

(41:29):
that ship hard. Let me funk with that. So I
do the verse. I get in contact with Trick because
you know, I always sucked with Miami, so I knew him.
I come down him, link up with him in Circle House.
He does verse. This is ill because I remember telling Jay,
y'all want to put t I on this. Jay looking
at me, now, who the fuck is t I? I'm like, yeah,
he's from Atlanta, like and and shout out t I.

(41:50):
He only wanted five bands for the verse, so Jay like,
why we gotta get this nigger? Five bands. I would know. Man,
just put beans the record of the Sun and I'm like, yeah,
I got ten records with beings, niggas, no wings is
my man, this is the ship. I want to do
something different. New York, Atlanta, Miami, the city. This is
coming together. My nigga is like, you sure like yo?

(42:14):
Trust me. They didn't even want to make it the single.
We tried to push everything to go. Everything's going worth
I remember Lee All came to the studio. We lovely
all stories. Let's get to him and Jack Blake. We
can't push the album back no more. We have no
more money. The budget is spent, no more money. But

(42:35):
it's going like no money, Jay like, we gotta go.
You gotta put a pick a song, nigger and that's it.
We're just gonna go with it. I say, my nigga,
let's going around here. He's like you sure like? Trust me?
And I directed the video and they shipped it on
me and give me my credit. Gave it to somebody
I would know who remember who is this? Got right?

(43:01):
Took the credit. I'm going to figure that out. Man.
We're gonna shoot it in the front of Miami shooting
in Atlanta, and you did so that that that wasn't
camera trick. That was real actually shot which camera trick
was Atlanta? We ain't had no money, so where was
it was? That that was Miami. Yeah, we found some

(43:21):
Atlanta the budget, I know, so you know we made
it happy. She was a classic man. It worked. You
ever got back in from depth jam like like you did?
You never um like you know how you get you
got five hundred thousand and then you only spend two hundred.

(43:43):
You never did that and got like three I did
that one time and I was up, my nigga. Let
me tell you something. My boss is a hustler, right.
You can't out hustle a hustler. So when I'm trying
to hustle, he seen my hustle. Oh he my nigga.
I did the out them five three four and Google
crib so you know we're like this all the invoices

(44:05):
studio just looked at that, like pop, good look it.
They're getting no money getting out. I ain't gonna lie.
She believed that's why I had the hood Lab. I
had the hood Lab. Used to hang out. I had
the hood Lab would and the fact that it was
on thirty seconds and thirty ONEE in Madison. The invoices
will come from that address. Goddamnit make some noise. They

(44:28):
would never come from thumbs out maintanement because they come
from thug out meinertainement. They will be like, that's noriy,
But I would never do that. I will always send
it from hood Lab. We had one fax machine. That's
it were fax machine was sucked. I think it was
like leftover like it was like it was a half
a frog leg and the motherfucking like. We lived bad,

(44:51):
but we lived in a great environment. Used to come through.
Things would come through and true life been up there,
my brother. True is we need to be in the
middle of the fucking tordade though like this, yeahll blugg it.
We spent We spent a lot of the hood Lab

(45:12):
was so great. I mean, I'm looking at you now,
you've been there. You've been there. Classic Nights too week
Tagger was there and Maria Maria. I had Mariot sitting
on the crate. My nigga, you want to break down
the story, just just just just whistle when I break
down the story. Don't even walk that. Here's a crazy ship.

(45:35):
This is like a fucking first week right of opening
the studio, I was playing seventy five Hunted, my nigga, Like,
and this is not my mortgage, it's not my cars,
it's not my apartment. This is just a place that
I got tired up paying record label. So I was like,
fuck it. So my So I think I started out
seventy five or eighty five hunting. By the time I

(45:55):
left the Hood Lab, I stayed there for three years.
I think I was playing ninety five or maybe ten.
This is just my side ship. So anyway, we hit Dame,
we hit a couple of people like ya, just come
to the office. You know what I'm saying. The room,
we got no furniture. We don't think nobody's actually gonna come.
So Mariot is like I lived down the street, like

(46:17):
she's on twenty nine. We're on thirty first. So we're
like damn, Like, yeah, I'm gonna bring my riot through
like shut out, like I'm surprised if you come through.
So they come upstairs. They got the man, They got
the ben in black security. You know the men in black.
I need one immediately, Like so Dame goes to Dame
goes yo, yo, Normy, this this guy don't know who

(46:40):
you are. You're a street nigga. Tell him you don't
need no security. I'm looking at that dame like why
why would I tell Mariot she don't need She's cool like,
but he's like, but tell the security that. I said,
I'll tell that. I'm not gonna tell the dude. So
security is like your norm. He's a thick head. But
if you want us, if you want us to wait outside,
I said, I guess. So my Maria is chilling like

(47:03):
all my niggas is a Mariah. Let's just be clear.
Let's just be clear. She's walking around the studio fifteen
niggas like I got a son, like walking like how
security here? We have security and watch out we got
I'm like, yo, my nigga, that's my people. She here
to see me. So Mariah goes to me. She goes,

(47:24):
I don't smoke, but I only do um shotguns, that's
my word. I ain't never blow a shotgun in my
life until that day. I was blowing like how you doing?
How you doing here? And come come, I got it.
I'm going shotguns. Niggas is looking at me like yeah

(47:46):
this is I'm like, yeah, this is a groupie moment,
I am, man, this is Maria. Nobody can't judge me.
So she's chilling. And then all of a sudden, I
remember they said that she's a wineo like me. When
I say wine, no, I don't mean used to sweat pino.

(48:07):
So let me tell them so I saw. I asked
more right, y'all said, yo, you drink wine? She said
what she jumped up, Yo, my nigga, she drank all
the bottles of pino grease yo with me in the
studio and sat on the crate. At that moment, I
could have died. I would have been satisfied. Satisfied I

(48:27):
completed my goal. Do you remember when he was in London?
This was some real racist ship, some real racist ship.
We're in the hotel. We ordered wine and chicken, and
the nigga said. The nigga said, this is no chicken.
Yea all the chicken dronk. I was like, I was like,

(48:51):
I was like, yo, but it's true chicken yo, that
she's been through a lot of incidents like that. Remember
the first I'm going to grease hold on time out.
Leak is very rich. He has friends who owns my
nigga sniper in Greece. He was, I don't even know

(49:13):
nobody in Greece. Let's get into a grease story. Yo, listen,
first time my man sniper brings me out there. Now
this is the rich guys, Sniper. Let's make less. Let me,
let's break down, book me your show. I don't even
know he books showed, but let's book there. Let let's
break down snipes, this is my nigga. First of all,
these niggas drive white cars in the sunlight. Right when

(49:36):
the sun go down, they change it all the black.
So they don't even drive the same cars all day.
Let's change that. They own a great adventure. They own
every home. It actually a great eventure, no roller coaster,
but they own the waters called I forgot the name
of it. But it's like like the water park is
great event, the same exact ship. Ad life don't make sense, right,

(50:00):
we get out. My wife just said that's the best
vacation she ever had. So like, so lit'sten. First time
we're out there, we're in the hotel, my nigga, they're
playing nine eleven back the back, the back to where

(50:23):
I had to go to the front desk and tell
a home you know, my nigga, I'm from New York.
I've seen this ship happen. Turn that ship off. Man,
you're trying to tell me something. So he's like, no, no,
we just know you from America. We thought you would
like this ship where the funk out? So but my nigga, Grease,

(50:47):
it's another left with my want is kind of harsh.
Rose they I'm gonna try and do say one day.
It's not today though, but is it bad if I
smell it? Okay, that's that official, my nigger. You wake
up in Flatbush and I know how you got that

(51:09):
no Avenue nors. You're right there with no draws on.
You're like, ye know what happens just for no reason? Baby,
So let's get back to Greece. Guy, the Grease guys rich.
He's stupid. It's beyond my g Like, you gotta go
with me, man, everything up in the Greek day. I
took my man debo out there, debo what shout out

(51:31):
my niggas. Wearehouse Music Gadhouse Music Group. That's the studio
that he never invited me to. It's the label, that's
the studio, that's the management company, that's the security company.
That's the reality company. That's the gas station, my brother.
But sometimes Debo be hit me with the industry ship.
Come to the studio. Stop, you got my number? My

(51:53):
nigger love, I love, I love on my Lower East
side niggas. They don't know the realist officials nigga. But
so this grease nigga, he owns actually about eight clubs
every hotel. So Donald Trump become president, is that we're
we're moving to? Yeah, I'm moving straight to So I

(52:14):
have to visit there now. Yeah, don't scope out my condo. Yeah,
now here here buying manage. I'm gonna tell you, right, Grease,
look a look at it as disrespect. If somebody invites you,
so say like he called me, you believe, come down.
I want you to chill for your birthday with me.
And he invited me. Now if I go to the

(52:37):
store and spend money, yeah, he ready to shoot the
whole store. Like, why did y'all take his money? You
know he out here with disrespect. You know he had
guess he don't spend money. So when you get out there,
you know all you need is a flight. My nig
you got everything. I don't just hurt my lesson I
went to Dubai and I try to buy a pack
of bogies and the dude had to do with me

(52:57):
that don't speak English, just the security nigga. He was
like no, and I was like, yo, I can't buy
my own cigarettes. So like I'm a grown ass man,
Like it's a bad habit. I might be telling myself,
I don't want you to kill Let it be on me,
you know, but serious over And I bought my mom's
like like you know, the Kafa, that's like the biggest thing.

(53:18):
It wasn't gold plated. So I snuck off to buy
that ship. And this dude was just behind me no,
and I was like yeah, man with something more like
it's from my mom. I don't want to president for
my mom. I'm telling you it's different man, like anybody. Man,
I just I just give you the opportunity to travel
the world and out there and see what's out there, man,

(53:39):
because the world is beautiful. Man. I found out with
Victoria's secret, imput all a minels from. I found the
plan where they growing them. It's in Finland, Helsinki. I've
been healthy already, know. Um I've been in Helsinki, and um,
they all had bald heads. White people were at the
CNN show. I thought I was gonna die. You went

(54:00):
to the wrong side of Healthink was holding. I was holding,
got hit and running over that. Yeah, Helsinki on my
way to Poland, and you're right, your chinky is let
kidding me. Yeah, hell sink its straight out. I had
the best vegetarian me all my life and health Helsinkiver
had Mexican vegetarian food and healthy. Next trip to Chile, Chile.

(54:28):
We're going to Chile. So what's what's the next move
for you? Like? Are you gonna me? And you? Had
an interesting conversation off the mic. Uh huh, and I said,
I said to you, I was, how are you calling?
Finding in you? I was breaking and I said, I
don't even want to lay a first no more. I
don't really even want to perform. I feel you and

(54:49):
you that's what that's what you said. You said you
you feel like it ain't that you feel like that,
It's just that it's that real. My ny could like
you said you thirty eight my name, I'm what we're
supposed to be, the forty old rappers try and get
back to where we want to us. We're supposed to
be in the club forty goons, slam on the hip,
still forty years old, Try and talk about y'all, try

(55:10):
and get it popping my nigga. We look like it is.
But I tried to do that because this is the
thing I missed as an artist. As an artist is
addiction when you drop the album like you know that
when every weekend, this is what the podcast has done
for me. That's where I can still have that every week.
But I don't gotta go in like people are hitting
me for the promo run yet I don't want to

(55:31):
do I don't want to be their kids. You know
what I'm saying. Got that part, the pictures, the meeting,
I like that, but I'm saying the ground of it,
I can't do it. My chicks like, yeah, I can't.
The chi list you're kidding, just said smell of chip Us.

(55:52):
That's when you like, you know, I got the company,
We got Warehouse Music Group. You know, I got a
lot of artists. We got Caitlin, young female from out
here in Miami. Shout out Miami, Shout out Caitlin. We
got the homie from Barbados. We got my man Barbados
got the artists from from Shout out my man Shane

(56:15):
Free from out there Barbados. You know, we got my
man Ben Veto in Brooklyn and we're making a major move.
Shout out my homie Minolo Roads. We're trying to put
something together with the homie right now. Give him a
situation like and we're just working man. Yeah, I think
he managed by him or whatever. Okay, So you know,
we're just trying to I'm trying to see the new

(56:37):
generation doing. I'm trying to be one of these the
old generation trying to hang with the new generation. Like,
let let these young niggas live like niggas do they
thing we had our time. Man. I feel like I
do music as a hobby for fun. If it works,
it worked. But don't think I'm gonna be out here
like yeah, album coming down two months. But so so

(56:57):
what do you do to fulfill that feeling? Because as
an artist, I don't give a funk with me or
you say, if we walk in the studio and we
want to hear that not to, I ain't gonna lie.
I can't. I can't get that out of me. What
I do do? Sing my nick I'm in the club

(57:19):
at me. I'm still biggling with d James. So the
last time you've been in the studio, ship, I was
in the studio before I came down here and shout
out to Homie refa production got the studio. Jersey Minola
was out there working with a new producer. So you
know I was in the studio with him. And I
ain't just the person. I ain't talking out the person
and pay you for a feature. I'm talking about just
you on your own, like just you got the studio

(57:40):
out here. You know, we we we are working on something.
We're working on the studio right now. Construction, you know,
we're remodeling it, you know, trying to bring it up
to date with House three or five. Even a grocery
store where house three or five. When I sell lobsters
were House three or five libster. So what else ventures

(58:01):
you want to get into? I want to do the movies, man,
I want to do cartoon really because you know why
I want to do a cartoon because you get to
say what the funk you want to say? Man, Because
if it's a person you had, people would picket signs
outside protests. They don't say shit about the Simpsons family guy,
the Niggers talk about religion everything. Don't say nothing, but

(58:22):
let that be somebody like a human or TV saying
that ship your ass is finished? Now? Was Baseline? Was
Baseline like uncomfortable when all the artists was there? Never
it was you know what, I loved Baseline, and that's
what I want to create for the artists we deal
with now. That's why we're building our own studio. So
everybody get hanging and it feels like a home. It creates,

(58:45):
That's exactly what it creates. Competition. Remember we're going baseline.
It was only two studios, so you would have to
wait in the front for your turn. You got J
on the lounge. You got J in one room working
on his ship, being into the other room working on
his sheet. Then when they finished, I'm working on something, free,
working on something, set, working on something. Then you got Kanye,

(59:08):
Judge Blaze in. They're producing like every every given moment.
It was a monster being. So it's like you can't
come in here and do no whack ship. Now, let's
keep it real. Did you see the genius and Kanye early?
Let's keep it real? Yeah, I don't think I did. Yo, Listen,
I remember we had Kanye wait outside my studio for
two hours. You know, my nigga, I'm gonna tell you how.

(59:31):
I'm gonna tell you how I met Kanye and Judge Blaze.
I met Kanye, Judge Blaze, and Guru all on the
same day. Because I had an engineer, right he called
out sick. So you know Loriale back then used to
manage the engine She managed for all the engineers. So
you know my manager back then be high. He hit
her like, yo, Bleak need the engineer. So she like, yo,
I got a new engineer's named Guru. I'm like, do

(59:51):
we smoke weed? She like yeah. I'm like send them,
do come through. I like, my nigga, I just rolled up.
Let's get busy. So we lay and so you know,
after a while, I did a joint. I'm like, yeah,
I need some beats. So Beans come like, yo, we
need some beats. He like yeah. McCauley's two producers, Jeff
Blaze and Kanye Walking. This is everything called no Guru

(01:00:13):
called so listen. We're in the studio with them. That day.
I picked like six beats for Jess Blaze for the
Understanding album. Beans picked like four from Kanye for the Truth,
because he did that Beat the Truth every day I
stepped in the book. We did that right there that
same day. Jay came that night, heard the records we did,
and we started the Dynasty album that week. Signs. You

(01:00:42):
saw the genius and Kanye from the moment, like from
that day. But as a producer, you believe it from that.
You know, my nigger, he had a he had a
CD right with Beat and you know, usually get a
CD from a producer with beach, he give you tim Beat,
you get two joints. My nigga, That beat c d me.
Everybody career at the at the label, everybody had a

(01:01:05):
jug off that CD. Wow, this is an ill story.
That's crazy. I'm not gonna lie. I had a session
in in l A and Martin Moore's pick him up shout.
Marty Moore was like, Yo, this is producer. He's doing
Mad Blacker Fellowship and I looked at the nigger. I
was like, no he not, I kid you not like
you know, I was like no he And I mean

(01:01:29):
this is early early, early early Kanye. This is I
don't even think he had a polo shirt at this time,
Like this is this is early early, So, I mean
in l A, you know how we do. In l A,
we got guns, we got and we we was against
security everywhere else but l A. We was in l
A was security up fun that like it was real.

(01:01:50):
So the nigga finally came in the studio and he
was like, it was dispectful. Y'all had us have me
wait in two hours and we looked at the nigga said,
but I know y'all sucked me up. He don't know
because he said it was mad based in his voice,
and niggas was like, like you it was like a
Source Awards where I brought the worst of the worst

(01:02:12):
people with me because niggas was getting robbed and I
was like, that's not gonna happen to us, I said,
I said, my niggas, I said. N some said as what,
but rob niggas like the crib set, the Sauce Awards
and everything that went down was cool with me as

(01:02:34):
long as I came back with my jewelry. You feel,
tell your story that I've never told you about to
kill you kids killed me. Just listen. It's the first moment,
this just after I met this niggers. So mind you
I didn't even really know like that to call them
maybe like your son chill. I just met him. So

(01:02:57):
listen the first moment you there, I met Miami. These
niggas rinding around on the militantement bus everywhere. Everybody got
the shirt on the beach everybody. So listen, Me and
the homies were standing in front the lows. This is

(01:03:17):
they just opened the loads holes holes took the night,
nice care of us at us to the loads. So
I'm chilling. You know, Mike Gerondomo was fucking with earth Gotti.
So earth Gotti, you know, I know Mike Gerondomo. He
spent the corner like yo, bleak, let me highlight you.
So I'm like, whatout my knee, like you good? What's up?
He's like, yo, norien. Them niggas ridding around out here,

(01:03:40):
my nigga, and I got this nigga with me and
they're gonna suck him up. I need somewhere to stash
him real quick. So I'm like who He like your tragedy, Kadafi.
So I'm like, what's the president is? I'm like, what's
the president? He like yeah, So I'm like, fucking guy,
hit on my key, ya niggas go upstairs. Do you
think so my man at the time murder, He like, man,

(01:04:02):
fun that nigga n is hot. Think it's better get
out here getting the soshir yevery man. So he like, man,
fuck me. I'm like nah and I and that's Mike.
I can't let his man get washed. I don't even
know trades, but that's because of Mike ground him. I'm
gonna look out. As soon as the niggers get upstairs,
these things turn the corner on the bus seven thousand, whatout?

(01:04:28):
He's like, yo, you see that they get trashing out
like like sound like the molif your winds tragedy. More
like I'm looking at the sick like nine. Ain't seen him.
He told me that one day he was just chilling
gett drunk and he was like, you know, I hit

(01:04:49):
your man from you right. I was like what. Yeah.
He told me the story and was with him. I
think he was out here with Prime, which was crazy
because prem is the big super og and queens. But
I purposely didn't bring queens niggas for that reason. Wrong
and all the you know, uh remember that's that's yeah, yeah,

(01:05:14):
she had a Queens had a left frack bus and
then we had But you know what's so beautiful about
that time was my niggas was coming out here getting arrested,
and you can still beld if people out like I
felt about five people out like I could. Mother's let
me just say something. I could never built nobody out again. Ever.

(01:05:37):
Try to build somebody out of the Government's gonna be
like you gonna really try us one more time because
all everybody ran on my bell. I've never got you
build somebody. I've never in like twenty years, I've never
got a bell back need to have because they actually
went on the run up. Even if Niggers went to jail,

(01:05:57):
I still ain't get the body back to fair May
bust that up. That's a fact. So Biggs just came home.
His energy was good. Yeah, yeah, I sucked with Biggs.
Biggs always been the quiet old g took my first
study on the tour, so it's cool. That was weird.
It was weird Biggs Biggs man, Yo, no, I remember

(01:06:18):
man like being like so excited, like, yo, I got
a chick ready to go to the hotel. I couldn't
believe it. They like who I showed up and took up. Well,
he took up from you. Yeah make big that's why
you're married now people, and they took up. I was like, this, motherfucker,

(01:06:47):
I didn't know what was up. Let me just tell you.
I'll tell you one night, right, nikoas for my hook
gonna get mad. But it was my man Wop and
it was my man. I forget who what was with.
But they had some bad chicks right. This is club
Essos Assos and they had these chicks right. Um, so

(01:07:08):
you know my hood we think these niggas is big niggas,
so Hove and Big Biggie Smalls walks too. At that moment,
I knew the chicks was gone, but I had to
let it lay it out for them to play it out.
So I see these niggas and Hove and Bigs took

(01:07:29):
my man's girl. It was like an honor. I was like,
you supposed to be this is this is pre component oriaga.
Like we're just coming up like they came over, gave
us fives. But it's like if Big and and jay
Z take your girls just like you're supposed to be,
like fucking not. But I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna

(01:07:52):
be honest, that's that flying Rember. I sent You're a Fly. Well,
I sent You're a Fly. That was like our first
or second show. It was with jay Z right, it's crazy.
I'm not sure if he was there. I'm not sure.
I'm not Do you remember I Canely was on the show.
She was there, and it was a chick from my
hood and she didn't give nobody no ass from the hood.

(01:08:16):
And she left for Hope that I just knew right
from here, Like Hope is a different dude. Like he's
like a superhero without a kid that people haven't recognized yet.
So this is crazy. This makes a noise for holding
them everything day, shout out Acron. I try to get

(01:08:38):
him to pull up to daily. Put the first studies
on the map. Listen, remember I put fifteen when put
it in your Mouth came out. So being in the
club here and bit just cho were you. I'm right here,
I'm right here. After the show kidding me like this ship. Now,

(01:09:01):
let me tell you, I'm gonna be honest. I knew
I Cannely was a different type of freak when I like,
I can only brought me on my first tour. So
when I became platinum. I hit number one. The first
thing I wanted to do was we paid that favorite.
So I bring Acnell on the tour. I can only
was doing an album called Benny Hill that's the time,
So I thought that was like I got Melvin Flint

(01:09:24):
from that. I was like, Benny Hill, that was crazy.
So We're in the back of the tour. But I've
never really been an official freak. I have had freak days,
but I'm like, I am like a one man girl,
Like you know what I'm saying. I love too hard.
But so we're in the back of the tour bus.
We got some what did you call them? Donies? Okay,

(01:09:46):
nicknaming that now, so gotties and we're all back then
we're doing it and I can only did the crazy
ship I've ever seen in life. He opened up his
shirt and start because I don't do nothing for me,

(01:10:11):
I could rub what the fun is that doing for me? Like,
and he was dead serious, Yeah, lack for me. This
is the fraction, just rubbing his nipples. At that moment,

(01:10:35):
I said, this nigga is a freak. He's a different
type of it's a different time. He's not like us.
He's different. My nigga. Him owning the strip club makes
total sense. I never, like I've seen Benny Hill do that,
like rubbed his nipples. I've never seen a grown as
man in the middle of two was to report game too.

(01:10:57):
I think he made one, but he tried to smile
like any nigger that rubs his emples. He's liable to
do anything. He's dangerous in a different way. But she's
the way you was doing it right now. In my mind,
that's how you don't have to character. Let's keep in mind,

(01:11:21):
is the first nigga from left Fractor ever get on
on some MC ship. I never met na seen or
herd or not until I've seen him with a canally,
So this is still a guard to me. I didn't
want to know he was that much of a You
rub your nip like honestly, like brought your nipples right now?

(01:11:42):
What is But what does it do for you? Like,
that's nothing for me. So if it does something for you,
you got you sensitive in places you're making it making
a joke. I can not even know he's my brother,

(01:12:10):
but I can hope did a lot of shows in
the beginning. Oh C used to be at the Crid
with us man. We used to be on that on
that Gris nine. Hope is different, man. That won't happen
between jazz. What was that about? That was that was
I don't know, you know jazz they older like, so
I never was in the middle of that, like jazz

(01:12:32):
was a cool nigger like. As far as that, I
never really got into what happened. I just wanted to
make sure they ain't happen to me feel me like
what they did all right, cool, I ain't doing that.
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(01:12:55):
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Radio with rapper and R and d J. Then how
many people that you came up came along with and
that you know because see one thing about hip hop

(01:13:17):
where I tell people all the time, especially artists, I say,
if you want to choose between the hip hop game
and the hustling game, I say, picked the hustling game
because you're gonna get that money fat. But if you
want to live in hip hop forever, this is a
five year to three four or five years you might
not even be getting you know what I'm saying, you

(01:13:39):
just gotta you, just gotta grind, You gotta be everywhere
at all times. So how do you how do you
feel about that? Just gotta gotta go where the opportunities
present themselves. Man, a lot of people get a deal
and think they're successful just because you signed the deal.
But at the end of the day, the task just began,
you know what I mean. That's an artists, your your

(01:14:01):
journey had don't begin until you get the deal. Because
that's what I'm saying. It's just like a guy who
takes a business. Moanner opened up a store and he
goes to the bank, but just the industry charge a
lot more interest. The interest rate is ridiculous, Yes, a lot,
because this is a it's it's a take me. It's
a take business. It's not a give me business. It's

(01:14:22):
a hip hop. So you're not what I'm heading for. Artists.
To survive, you gotta constantly stay relevant like you gotta.
You gotta stay in the public eye, stay on social media,
your snapchat, gotta be like Philter the partists that came
to through through through y'all that you could have probably signed,
but you you brung it to the office and people

(01:14:43):
ain't see your vision because I heard I heard big
crib no, Big Cred up there. I found him on
my Space, me and my man agent, you know, shout
out my g agent. Yeah, we found him on my Space.
I brought him up to young Man. Also heard you
brung little Wayne. I heard you was the guy that
said Little Wayne is the next dude, we should sign it. Nah,

(01:15:03):
not weez we's he been on. No. I'm talking about
like you know, like when he wanted to when he
was talking about leaving cash money and that he was
I heard that was you. Yeah, yeah, I told niggas
about him. But like you know, Ross, I put niggas
on the roar, big Cred fucking umay just Ti, I like,
you know, Jane know about tr back there now over

(01:15:25):
tr mad cool. I mean I put a lot of
people on it. So I just try to show love.
If you got the real talent and it's real, I'm
gonna put you in that position. It's just like Minolo,
Like I know Minolo my whole life, his brother, Me
and his brother, really me and his brother, like you know,

(01:15:47):
it's cousins. We all funk with each other, so you know,
I'm older than his brother here a little younger than me,
but we all grew up together. So you know, the
c minolo come up and doing this thing. My first
thing was to reach out to him. You know, my nigga,
anything I could do for you, We're gonna make it
happen for your first time. Let me just before because
I got two more questions. But before we um go

(01:16:08):
any further. You never changed on me, not one like
that's real ship change, because like I look at a
lot of people change, you just get a little crazy. Nigga.
This industry is different. Now when I tell I'm gonna
take you back to the beginning, when I said I
wasn't prepared. Now, think about a lot of artists go
through some ship. They make demos, they trying to get

(01:16:28):
on nigging ship on them. They stand outside the studios
for two hours for a nick give them a break,
so they have already sat in their mind. When I
make it ship on these niggas, you heal me so
mind you. I never I never made a demo tape.
I never ran down on the nigga. Yo, listen to
my record. I never knew my man from the fifth

(01:16:49):
floor was gonna be the garden. See, I just was rolling,
you know what I mean? This ship just happened. So
how can I act funny to a nigga to something
that was given to me? Why I tried to back
my nigger. So now we asked everybody who was your
favorite CEO? And I was about to say I was
gonna eliminate somebody's buy it man, But it's okay, we

(01:17:11):
can we buyas on this No man. I had deals
on the table before I signed with Rockefeller. I had
a bunch of deals. But I remember my manager wanted
to fucking beat the ship out of me. They wanted
to beat me up because we stay because we jay
didn't even have Rockefeller yet. I heard, you didn't even

(01:17:33):
have a contract. Nothing makes a noise, some bleak doing
drug the movie. You can only do that with another
drug dealer, another dug. They're gonna say that to me.
They never gave me a contract. That where I was like,
you don't want to because I know contract come with advance.
They like they were so rich at the time. I said,
you don't want to contract, give me another chance. Friends, So, um,

(01:18:01):
so your favorite CEOs whole that's a beautiful thing because
we had Jada kiss the locks and all of them
um CEOs they have and they said, d n y
so this is beautiful that but I gotta we could
be biased. I gotta put j and Dame up there, though,
you gotta put down, you gotta put I'm gonna be honest.

(01:18:28):
I'm gonna be honest. One of the worst meetings I've
ever had in my life, huh was a video. Yes,
it's one of the worst meetings I've had in my life,
but it's a great mean I got I got the
number one record with the Spanish record right, oh you're
be gone though. That's right, the number one record. But

(01:18:50):
mind you that jam told me throw that ship out
on you do this ship out on my own. That's it.
Got five original yeah, five n spins. The nigs is like,
so what un spins somethings like that's light spins. They're like,
you're working spins. We see you thirty five hundred spins.

(01:19:18):
We're watching harder spins. What are you doing seventy spins?
The Niggles like, bring my record up here, And I
was like, you just told me I can throw that
sht out on my own. They said We've never said
that a straight like, this is real business with a

(01:19:40):
straight face to me. So they was like, Yo, look,
we're gonna give you such and such for the um
the video or whatever whatever. So I was like, all right, cool,
because I always looked at it like I sell crack
and this is I'm selling heroin on the side. I
don't really care what I make from this ship. So
I'm walking into the building a deaf jam to have
them meeting about my video. So Dame goes to me,

(01:20:01):
He goes, yo, you're supposed to have a meeting about
your video, right, And how he knew this? I knew No.
I'm like, I'm not in a little minity, especially not
at that time. They just set to my invitation. So um,
so goes, um, you're about to have that video me.
I'm like, yeah, you know, he's like chill fifteen minutes.

(01:20:23):
So I walk in there. You know, this is Fat
Kevin Lows, who is the best cavill Fat Allows the best.
He's still a great guy, but Fat kinda Allows is
the best. Right, you can get anything out of him.
So so I walk in the office. I have no idea, right,

(01:20:48):
I walk in the office and Kevin's like, yo, so
you know we're gonna get you. We're gonna get you
like two for this video. We're gonna go higher. And
this is like, you know, this is still the days
where we um uh film. We're not digital yet. So
Dan walked to I just agreed. He was like, you

(01:21:10):
want the fifty. I was like, yeah, I take the
fifty for the for the because it's your mcconas the
Spanish record. I'm not really crazy, like I just want
to do it, like you know. Dane walked in. He
was like, I swear to god, smoke machine started like
I don't think a smoke machine, but in my mind
the smoke machine. He was like, what's some fat boy

(01:21:30):
in the calf? And I was like I'm there myself,
like what the fun? Me and Dame you don't talk
like that, Like what is this going on? And he's
like yeah. He's like, keV, how much you told Norri
his video he should shoot? And Cavi is like that's
between me and Nori and Dame is like, Nori do

(01:21:52):
you mind? I'm like not really, I mean alright cool.
He's like yo, oh he just offered you thirty five
housing for your video and Kevin is like, that's me
and Nori ship the nigger Dame wrung off the books. Yeah,
you know you always had this showing the book. Nigga
was like, I had the number one record. L L

(01:22:13):
had just got to prove for a five hundred and
fifty thousand dollar videos, but Ryan Carrey had just got
approved for four hundred thousand dollars. Jar rule all of
you know, all people who are actually predominantly selling more
records than me. But at the time when you got
the number one record, you are number one. So then
he was like, you see how these record labor dudes

(01:22:35):
do you. They think you don't know nothing, so they're
gonna get you a little dirty five hundred thirty five
thousand dollar videos. So Cavin is like that that's what
Norri agreed to it. I did. I'm like words, I
didn't agree because I could. I couldn't worked one this
with thirty five thousand. At that time you were the
pocket attend But maybe I don't know what I woult

(01:22:56):
to put it all on film. That's how they say
my Dame singer handedly, although he was an asshole about it,
like he showed him the numbers. How could you approve
out for this video? How can you and this snory?
I ain't know no better. And that did tell me
a lesson because when Rockefeller niggas was rocking, hole was

(01:23:18):
the the the big dude. But then Dame was the
dude taking care of although he did it absolutely wrong,
was in the right place. Was in the right place
because he helped me out of a major gym. That's
why I didn't. I always got a special bond with
that nigga behind that man. I'm most signed a bad

(01:23:39):
management deal. Niggas trying to that was in the beginning,
and I heard I heard about that nigs trying to
take fifty percent of everything before you sign a rock
Dave Sink. That was like, my nigga, get you a lawyer.
So I'm like, yeah, they got me this lawyer. You
know who the lawyer was. Come back Jack Jerkney, Come
back Jack Jerkney. He broughtly jerked YouTube. I ain't never

(01:24:01):
signed it. I never signed to deal. The lawyer that
was the foul nigger was comback Jack. Lawyers would comback Jack.
That's only being found to me. I mean he's a foul.
He was. He hate right, he hates you right, I think. So. Look,
my best friend is hate this is we're gonna throw
voodo on comback. But I never signed it. So Dame

(01:24:22):
seen that. He was like, Yo, you're bugging. I'm gonna
get you a better lawyer, get you a situation, get
you right, and helped me out better than combat Jack.
So damn new comback was a piece of ship for
a long. This ain't that bad comeback. It's a good camback.
It's my nigger. That's Reggio, says, Reggio. Say what's his name?

(01:24:42):
Reggio says that time it wasn't combat He's the weird
Penny boy. He's the weird penny. He's my friend. He's
my friend. Now we're podcast friends. But nothing would change
the fact that he jerked me my very first day.
You know this is the industry for that money. When
he's saying for you know, no, listen, listen, combat Jack, listen.
This is how you know I'm coming from selling crack right,

(01:25:04):
just how I knew the deal was wrong. They paid
combat Jack five thousand, They paid Tragedy five Reggie, Oh,
say it's five thousand. They paid Tragedy five thousand. They
paid Capone five thousand, and they paid Norri five thousand.
But what fucked up is I got it in cash.

(01:25:25):
I wasn't the smartest snicker in the world, but I
knew this was wrong right from that moment. I was like,
what I got paid like a block? They just gave
me an envelope morning I said no, But in my
mind that's what the fuck. Y'all was trying to kill
combat Jack. For at least two years, I was having chicks.

(01:25:46):
I'm gonna be honest, this real ship. I was having
chicks mess with him, saying your where's he had just
you know, slip up. It wasn't Molly back then, but
in my mind it was moll. Lets slip for ecstasy
in his joint. Let him go to sleep and then
call me. It never happened. Come back, Jackie're lucky. I
got love for you. Now I grow up and I'm
held up and so come back Jack. You're cool, but

(01:26:09):
your podcast doesn't exist. Calm relax. You want to edit
this out, No, we're not. We're gonna have com back
listen for all purposes. You know, we're playing around with
real situations like big Up to my boy Smiff TV
Great Sport about it. He heard us crack jokes on him.

(01:26:33):
Everybody around us was like, oh please, don't put that out.
Spiff laughed at it. He called me, he wants to
be on the show. Calmback, you should laugh at it,
and you should want to be on the show. You know,
I'm gonna ask you these questions. Bleak all that money,
it's the industry. You gotta get the funk out the game. Yeah,
that's just get still getting this game with them fucking skeletons. Man,

(01:26:54):
We're gonna pull them ships out. Somebody has to. So
so what you what? What? What would you want for
Bleak to end? Like? You know what I'm saying as
as a rapper, like you gotta do one more album?
Is it that I gotta I gotta put I gotta
put my team on, man, I gotta I gotta show.
I gotta show my niggas what Hole showed me. Man,

(01:27:16):
the experiences that you know, gracious, that's it. That's about
they say you. They say they can only manage your
greatness by how you made somebody else great. That's right,
And I and I and I and that's my thing.
Like I think, like I feel like U, let's I'm
going triple platinum. What I'm doing that, what I'm gonna

(01:27:37):
do that, I didn't do it right. Well, I'm gonna
going I haven't been what crowd I'm gonna perform for
that I didn't perform for. I didn't performed everywhere on
this planet, and so I still got a lot to do.
I don't perform. Been around the planet five six times. Man,
I'm thankful, Like you know what I mean. They's still
traveling like the ship is. It's a blessing. Man. We

(01:27:59):
hear from what we wrote on paper. My nigga like
my hood stories got us sitting right here. So now
I heard you say that Drake is cheating because he's
holding Yeah. Man, usually gotta stop. Man, you gotta kind
of stop. Somebody get the word to this guy because

(01:28:21):
but he's it. But you cheating that song's get in
touch with me. Somebody teach me how to hold the note.
Nigga's cheating, so let let me be somebody. Don't you
arrest One got on this show and said, we said,
how do you feel about Drake having a ghost rider

(01:28:41):
and cares One said, that's dope. Yeah, that was crazy.
I didn't he said that was done. Are you right?
I'm sorry. I always put a hunting on tam without ghostwriters.
A lot of mcs in this game. You gotta just
take away like you look, bring it down and trying
to get this out co if you first, if you

(01:29:02):
like little Kilming Foxy, erase it like puff for the
family album, erasing you like Bismocky easy easy eracing, just
take it all out your history books and then we
could call a spade to spare you feel me, you
have asked right around for you. Hell yeah, he didn't.
Don't come into age. I ain't even i'ven have m

(01:29:23):
put on it. Then I went to create the whole album.
It no if I spit nigga like, hey, go on
a piece of paper. My nigga's fast. You remember that's
fast you be on. I went back to the crib
rewrote that ship, went back said my nigg I got it.
That's all. That was it. But like a lot of people,
like ghost right has been in the game. Some people

(01:29:45):
because it's the artist. Some people are just writers like
my nigga. Like if you're three hundred fifty pounds, you
in the back sweating every time you breathe, but your
pen game is on fire. Better go to the gym
and fire you a little petique something that scores seen
you feel me? And that's real. So every R and

(01:30:05):
B singer take them out your history books. Yeah, R,
it's still a talent man like right, and his music
is harmony is notes. Carrots put it in perspective that
we never really thought of it the way he said, Yeah,
Carres is too positive. It was like Nigga said, the

(01:30:26):
nigga said, because technically none of us, right o R.
I looked at the nigga like, wait a minute. I
looked at the nigger like wait a minute. The divine
and then said, because God right, so our ship. I
don't think. I don't think God want me to say
funck them bitches. Maybe God does. Maybe God does. You
don't you know what I mean? God gotta sense to humor.

(01:30:48):
But Yo, bleak man, you want to thank you for
hanging out. We appreciate you, you know being you didn't
stop me one time, you didn't say you want to
talk about that, And that's that's beautiful. That's the thing
about this, this this thing is a lot of people
are hitting me, the new artists, and they want to
be a part of that part of this. And the

(01:31:08):
thing about it is y'all have the game to be
a part of the artists. This is not the game
to create their own land. I think that they should
sit around and they should be fans of this show
as a wanting to be a part of the show.
Some of you guys, we can have you, give you
a horn, you know what I'm saying. But but but
that's what greatness is. Like I didn't I didn't want

(01:31:29):
to watch basketball. I didn't watch the basketball. I just
want to jump on the court. I always watched it
and and I studied it more. And that's what we're doing.
We want to give a place that people can tell
these stories. And because this is real ship like that
Rocket Feller story on that private plane has never been told.
I wish people could have been there. Like even I

(01:31:50):
didn't wish people you know, I wish the people never
did would have woke up. I wish people would have
been just to see it. Because even like in the
favor Black movie, they cut my scene because it just
there was a lot of ship, that ship on the
fade of black people who cut your scene. Let's talk
about don't know, let's talk. But I was just trying
to tell niggas like it was a situation where Dane

(01:32:12):
was telling everybody that they're gonna retire like Jay. We
all gonna retire like Jay. Everybody. Everybody's not good. And
I was telling niggas, no, we ain't even me, my nigga.
Are you fucking kidding me? You're telling me that I'm
gonna go out like this at Madison Square, Guard, Are
you fucking kidding me? That ain't gonna happen, my nigga,

(01:32:34):
unless God come down here right these rhymes for me,
spit this ship and I go squad Platinum tomorrow, then
maybe we go out like that. But I'm telling niggas home,
go out the way he going out because he spit
that ship, that nigga, and that's sick, my nigga. We nobody,
nobody don't remember before the buggy Like see, y'all killed

(01:32:56):
the game when when Rocket Feller had the Buggy I
Bins and the Buggy I been was the y'all was
grinding before that. You know, money in my lifetime was
even man this before that, Like I remember we did
a show at Syracuse. Man, it's how you know hover
a real dinker. We did a show Syracuse. The fourteen

(01:33:18):
can't even drive nothing, no license they care drive right,
So you know it's a couple of niggas in the
car for a guy who was with us, so ja
we put. He pull over to the gas station, like, yo,
somebody get out and pump the gas. Nobody wanted to
get out and pump the gas because it's freezing money,
it's snowing when in Syracuse is snowing like a motherfucker.
So hold like, all right, I'm gonna pump the gas.

(01:33:40):
He pumps the gas. Nigger goes in the trunk though
don't tell nobody nothing comes out the trunk with his
big gass coat on, jumps in the car and do
to hunting on the highway with the windows. Dad, pump gas,

(01:34:00):
make some noise, my man, Yo, bleak man, I really
appreciate this man for real. You sat down like I mean,
I knew he was gonna do it. But you know,
what we're trying to do is just to keep hip
hop spirit alive. That me personally, that that conversation that

(01:34:23):
me and you had outside where we was, it was
crazy to see your growth, that me and you are
growing at the same time, similar to the same age.
I'm about a year probably older than you. I'm thirty eight.
Well I'm going on thirty nine. You'll beat thirty eight,
so I'm still a year older than you. I'm I'm
a virgo, the best friend sign of the world. I
don't know if I need that. Anybody verging in come
on like this. I don't like but I'm gonna my

(01:34:58):
thirty ninth birthday be this year, so you'll be thirty
eight cancer baby summertime? Okay, which one of my baby mama?
We got ship that killed? I got a baby mama
and junior um. I think we're cool. Is she craziest ship?
Jim mc cancer like me because I'm a I'm a
cancer Jim. And now I'm on a boat because you know,

(01:35:19):
I've got six kids in a straight bi polar six kids.
I got six of the pile. Ye trying to figure
out that possible. Here. At some point we're gonna figure
out that possible. You know where you're at, Nigga, you're
grown man, Let's get this blood test popping. That was
just wrong. I think that we've been hollering, so bleak

(01:35:41):
once again, man, thank you for hanging out man, anything
else you want to say? Man like you you got
so much. Like the thing about you is you're the
number one, like right hand man, Like I know you
know not every star got me beat man, split star
got you beat on stage, but behind the scenes like

(01:36:05):
gangster ship, real nigga ship, you that number one dude,
like niggas know it though, and I know it. I
know it seems quiet. You ain't gonna because I don't credit,
I don't know whole face. I'm so I'm so scared
of hold Like you know, it's crazy. I seen him
come up and when I seen him get there, like
I just want him to be that nigga. I don't

(01:36:26):
even want to look at him like a regular nigga,
Like I want to look at him like that. Like
remember we was trying to get Joe on the phone.
He was like, y'all gonna have a hole call your phone,
hung up the phone and say, please don't do that.
Your number. I I didn't like job like y'all have

(01:36:47):
Jake Core You like what I'm like, Yeah, give me
your number, text to text me his number. I didn't
want nothing to do with it and not listen listen
like when the person gets like when you know you,
I know he got Obama number, Like if you got
my number, I don't want you to call me. I'm
scared of you. Like this is real ship. I don't know.

(01:37:07):
I'm a foul nigger. Like I know I'm still doing ship.
That's technically wrong. So um man, Bleak. I just I
can't thank you enough. Man. You might do my homie.
I just want to thank everybody. I want to thank
you in front of the crowd because I don't know
when you see I'm thinking you you probably like, what
is this nigga? But at the end of the day,

(01:37:28):
like our relationship has been like like we ain't never
really bragged about all relationship. We ain't never like a
lot of people didn't even probably know. We was just cool,
that's right. Like even when I told Joe, I was like, yo,
Bleak is my man, he was like, for real, he
always kind of acts tough around me. I was like,
you probably like y'all niggas don't never spoke. That's the

(01:37:51):
thing about rap beefs. Rack beefs have nothing to do
with nothing, but they just don't speak to each other.
And that's what I'm saying. Like and you could have
just smoked to him and be like yo. It's like,
it's like the craziest ship is you know who? You
remind me of so much Jungle and Jungle. When I'm
around Jungle, he reminds me of you because you just

(01:38:14):
loyal to your big homie and that's it. There's no
questions asked, Like I've seen niggas coming around you and
say yo yo yo yo, So what's someone hold me like?
That's whole. You've just been like, that's whole. That's my
big homie. I ain't you know what I'm saying. So
that that's real ship right there. And again, I want
to just thank you for being around. How long we

(01:38:36):
get how long? And shout out to Miami Run Club,
to the shout to Miami Run Club. That's still the
Columbian white We're gonna take a shot. Let's do it.
If you don't have I can't take that hot no
more got want. I don't know what that means, but

(01:38:57):
it's a drink that they make with the Colombian white man.
That don't sound like I'm gonna be honest. I got
I got things to do and my my my wife
is following one of your nigga's on Snapchat because somebody
is somebody to snatch after everything. By the way, my
wife run into my life. I'm gonna be honest. My

(01:39:18):
mind taking over. She's trying, that's what. That's what. No,
I don't. I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. Um,
that's my second marriage. You that nigga. No, please pray
for me. And she's Cuban and she's Puerto Weekend. I'm
madly in love. I'm madly to take care of my kids.
That's not her take to the kids I love. But

(01:39:42):
being married is crazy. I realized that it works when
I just say yes. If I argue like I ain't
gonna you know, like I'm I'm I'm a talkative argument
of that person. But I've never really when I've argued,
even when I'm right, it's just like, Yo, that's the

(01:40:04):
key to marriage. It's just like I'm trying, okay, baby,
all right, your way, baby. It's different in my house. Okay,
my lady both the same side. We both don't give
a funk the cancer and we both know we both cancer.
So she she looked at me like fun, I look
at I was giving what we can everything that's gonna

(01:40:28):
make your work, man, Yeah, I was gonna make it work. Man.
I've seen you on that's the first time I seen
you your hat off at the wedding pictures. That's right.
You could be in this tops with that. They just
thought I had the l L had always get all.

(01:40:51):
They say, you are mad, who's never take your hat off.
I've never seen Pat with his hat. They can see
melling it out myself. Yeah, I ain't gonna fry no
mentally for twenty years. I've seen the speeches on on
on Instagram, I said, got at all. That's hard. I'm

(01:41:13):
so happy for you. Congratulations on the where we should
have said that early. We met your lovely wife whatever
people we heard that she's related to Lee Daniels. She
got She got a lot of family ties out there
in the music, and we like to stay around money. Man,
he's been around money so long. I had to tell
her right because you know, we got the wed and
she had a family. He came out and did a speech,

(01:41:34):
so you know, everybody looking like who is so you
know she got lead singer to Old Jay's at the way,
so everybody my mom like, what the funk? Like? This
is real? Like, so I had to tell him when
we went to scrib in Vegas. You know, he invited
us for dinner in Vegas, come chill, and I told him,

(01:41:54):
you're my nigga. You know I probably was born off, Yes,
joints didn't would you invented men to that dayress a
little bit. I'm not gonna lie. This is crazy, thank you, bleek.
I would keep going. He keep going. He don't want
to stop neither. You know what, when you know what

(01:42:16):
we're going, what's what's what? What's what's the name of
the spot again? Because these people let us a Miami
run club Miami. They distilled Lumbia White our joint. To
get that check, baby, we got to say on the
table check. Let me pick up a little let me
pick up Keith. What's this nake? Last name? Man? I
actually think man put it up man name. But you're

(01:42:37):
gonna check Keith Howard, Keith Howard and Alina Smith providing
the Rose. You know what I'm saying. Shout out to
CBS too, Shout out to CBS all you motherfucker's up
there doing the CBS podcast. Yeah, man, come on, you man,
come to CBS. Listen. Listen, Listen, listen, listen, listen. There's

(01:43:03):
other niggas that got other deals, but they don't get
free tickets to the super Bowl. You already know. I
don't know. I don't know, but I'm trying my hand.
I want tickets to the super Bowl. That's how we
get it. They want to see Beyonce, they better give
us tickets to be for the super Bowl. That's what
we're doing. That's a trade. We're not hot yet until

(01:43:25):
rock Nation asked to manage us. So we got a
long way to go because everybody was listen, everybody that's
hot as managed by rock Na. Week I hit Lenny
asked us to see if I was a little warm.
I said, your last name is Santiago, nigga, how are
you doing? Happy birthday? He was liked. It got me running.
I said, damn, we're not that because he was supposed

(01:43:45):
to stop when he was doing to say we need
June Chaps at rock Nation. So we're gonna keep continuing
to working until we get rock Nation. We just need
we just need rock Nation to go. It really has
accepted deal. I don't even care. It's a real another
change I do want another changing rock piece the holmie.

(01:44:08):
What's my man dad? His days? In my mind? Man
Dad's briant. He fucking killed his ship's he murdered his
ship the Cuban connect to the drink. But he probably
brought his own ship because he's rich. Come on, you
know that over giving things no more? It's over. And
Bigges said, I had his last year and we just

(01:44:30):
had to make some new ones. I just worry. We
just went to the jeweler to make some new ones
because niggers like, yeah, we gave away all the change,
so we gotta make some new ones, you know what
I mean. So get two more, make two more. Listen,
we're gonna know we're hot. We gotta get that line.
Ask called back guys that he's Spanish too noticed, How

(01:44:50):
stick with the Spanish people? Right? You feel me? You
feel me back, guys. Even though he's hand on sports
um Lennies, he handles collar and fabulous, and I know
he handles Rihanna, his money is too His money is
too big. So when we get those calls, we're gonna

(01:45:12):
change our phone numbers. All right, that's a bad I'll
change you right now. No, No, I'm gonna change. I
don't see them need to change it right now for
else still got my number. So but when rock Nation called,
I'm changing my number. Ye. Thank you for hanging out
with this drink chance. You ain't gonna leave. You gonna
smoke and we're gonna I'm trying to get you on
some from Rose. But it's okay because and this is

(01:45:34):
how it goes down, Memphis Bleek Drink Champs, motherfucker dj
e f Finn has did it sounds motherfucking bleak took
off his hat in the interview. Niggers got that find

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