2024 All-Dude Team: Defense

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Guess who has the sixty ninth pick this year.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm not sure what's draft pick sixty nine this year? Jules,
I do the Patriots?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Really? Wow? He do? I didn't know that. Wow. I
showed you.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
You You're right, you need to go in and announce
the sixty ninth pick for the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
That's a good idea. I might have to do it now, Jules,
I might have to do it.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman and I'm
Rob Gronkowski, and this is the show where your favorite
dudes talk about their favorite dudes.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
And Jules, what are we talking about today?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Today we are going to do the All Dude Defense
and we've got plenty of free agency talk.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
And then we wrap up the show by talking about
the Chillis Dude of the Week presented by cors Light.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
You gotta stick around to the very end. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Let's do it, Jules, this is a big one. All Defense.
Dudes on Dudes is a production of I Heart Radio.
All Defense. The guys we used to face, the guys.
We used to take down the guys that were all
pros and made them average Joe's because that's what we
used to do out there on the field to the
All Pro defensive Team guys that whenever we face them

(01:16):
out there out on that football field. But today we're
not playing no more, so we're gonna name the All
Dudes All Defense Team. Let's get it going, juels. But lately,
what have you been up to out there out in La.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
My family's been in town. I hosted my sister, her husband,
my parents, and then had my little girl and then
my boy DRO's in town. So we've had a full
house here in La doing a lot of chores, a

(01:51):
lot of chores with my my dad's in town. We're
just fucking doing chores. You know. We gotta get paint
done on the house, or making little things in the
si yard, so many little projects. My dad hit home depot,
I kid you not, maybe seventeen times in the last
six days. He just loves going to home depot. I mean, Oh,

(02:12):
I gotta fix this little cabinet. Oh, this light's off.
Oh we gotta get the paint matched. Oh we gotta
get a freaking side shuffle thing. I mean, this guy
goes to home depot as much as I put socks on.
It's crazy. So I was hosting my family watch some
of the basketball. Basketball has been kind of cool, I

(02:34):
must say, these new trades, Luke on the Lakers, freaking.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Demi Butler, Butler from the Miami Heat.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, like I think basketball is it's I don't know,
it's just because maybe football is over and I'm more
watching the basketball and hockey landscape. But I feel like
those two sports are They're flying right now, and it's
been fun to watch basketball the hockey. After the hockey, uh,

(03:06):
the Nations Nations International series, I was sad. I was
sad football ended. But I'm starting to get a little
my my sport fix off of basketball because of those
trades and then the Four Nations hockey and and and
I mean I'm a little sad right now. Brad Murshawan
got traded to the Panthers.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, I saw that man. Brad Mashean did so much
for the city of Boston too. He brought a championship
there and just a great dude overall. I met him
just a few times throughout my you know time when
I was on the New England Patriots, just being up
there up in the city. What a great dude, such
a hockey dude. Man, And it's so wild seeing those
guys because like you meet him and you're like, man,
how is this guy a professional athlete? Like what is he? Like?

(03:50):
Five eight jewels?

Speaker 1 (03:52):
He's a smaller guy, smaller, smaller guy.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
His skill set is just so phenomenal, Like how too
he is a fighter. He'll go out there, he does.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
But like he's he's just like a fucking he was
like a hard nose. Well then they call him nose
face killer. He was just a hard nose, like crazy,
tough little dude on that ice. Man, do you.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Think that Sean Thornton had anything to do with Brad
Machean going down to the you know, Florida Panthers, Because
Sean Thornton was a big part of the Boston Bruins
back in the day and being teammates with, you know,
with Brad Machean. Do you think he's the one who
brought him down to Florida?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
One thousand percent, one thousand percent Thorty was over there,
isn't he what he's like the uh, he's like, he's
heavily he's a GM.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
He's a GM of the Panthers though, Yeah, Thorty, I
mean I knew he had an office, you know job,
but I didn't know he was the actual general manager. Man.
Good for him, That's that's dope.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Didn't we hang out with We've hung out with Thornton
a few times in Boston. I I I got to
see the up with him. He had like a little
party thing. Were you there?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I wasn't there for I met him just a few
times as well. And that's one dude I would not
want to scrap with, you know, on the streets. Those
hockey guys, those fighters like Rob Ray, Ty Domey, Sean
Thorer and you throw them, you know, they're just a
handful of those type of guys, and those are the
dudes you don't want to mess with, you know, whenever
you're out and about, you know, at a restaurant or

(05:24):
on the streets or at any time, because they can.
They can, you know, throw some fists, that's for sure, Jules.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Definitely, they can. They're fucking tough dudes, and they're doing
it on ice, which makes it ten times harder. Like, yeah,
that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's it's a different skill set that you got to
have on the skates. It's a whole nother you know
type of balance, and you know, you know, balance and
stability that you got to have. You know, when you're
out on the ice hockey skates, you can be the
best fighter in the world on land, but the second
you hit those skates, it's a whole different muscle system
that you're hitting. I played hockey my whole life, Jewels.

(06:00):
I loved hockey so much. You know, I follow the NHL,
especially when it comes down to playoffs. It's kind of
like the NBA and NHL. I don't really watch much
right now.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
So much.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Too many games, too many games, I agree, way too
many games. It is hard to follow it. But when
it comes down to NHL playoffs, you know, NBA playoffs, man,
I'm full speed into it. I'm watching every single game,
especially NHL playoffs. The Four Nations series reminded me of
the NHL playoffs. It was all fun fights, every second,

(06:31):
every player playing hired as they possibly could. That was
fun to see. I'm fortunate I didn't get to, you know,
watch the games because I was in Australia, but I
saw the highlights and I read about it, and that's
the type of hockey that I love. That's the type
of hockey I played when I was growing up as
a kid. You know, so props, kudos, you know to
what they do when they're going full speed, especially in

(06:51):
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
And Sean Thornton was is the chief revenue officer, We
would be fucking really bad to not know what he
does there. Uh, we love you, Sean. Shout out to Brad.
He had an unbelievable Mershawn having an unbelievable career in Boston.
We we all spent a lot of time in that

(07:13):
that awesome city together and had and created a lot
of cool memories, may not have been with each other,
but cross secting memories. We went to a lot of
those uh Stanley Cup games, you know, they came a
lot to our Patriot games and you throw Celtics game
in you see everyone there like it's just you know,
that was an unbelievable career. Rob. What have you been

(07:36):
doing on the East Coast?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Well, all right, Jules, we'll just want to talk about
Brad Marshan real quick once again. I mean, just thank
you for everything that you did for the city of Boston.
And the first time I met him actually was courtside
at a Boston Celtics basketball game with guess who the
one and only John Dooley.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
John Dooley is getting married.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, congratulations by Dooley's just the Boston legend up there
in the Boston area. If you guys don't know who
he is, Eco Store, Eco Starr Storage, Hey Stories, who.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Knows, guys, He's a wicked smoti smot uh and we're
wicked wrong with how we pronounce the name of his company.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
But he had a couple front row seats. I met
Dooley front row, and then there was Brad Marshawn front
row with us as well with Duley, So that was
really cool to meet him my first time there. And
he was kind of like the first NHL player that
I truly met as well, So I thought it was
a really cool moment to meet him there. But I
am on the East Coast. Now, coming back to that,
Jewles love the East Coast. I'm an East Coast guy.

(08:40):
Grew up in Buffalo, you know. I went to Pittsburgh
my senior year in high school, but I went all
the way out to Arizona. I'm a West Coast guy.
Every once in a while I appreciate the West Coast,
but I'm truly an East Coast guy Jewles, And that's
why I live out here. I live all across the
East Coast. I got places all over the place because
I'm fortunate enough. You're the dude as I am, the grind,

(09:00):
the ground hast couple of spots because he loves the
East Coast. He needs a spot in every state that's
you know, uh that's bordered to the ocean. But uh,
you know, I've been actually yeah, but I got all
my ll season Delaware. So Delaware is Robbie, see saving

(09:21):
my ass when I get in trouble. You can't send
me listening to this to my LLC, which has no
money in it.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Probably don't want to give off our business advice to
the public.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
But why not. That's what we're here for, Jules.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
We're transparent. We're transparent. We're transparent.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
You want to know what's something I've been finally able
to get back into because during the season, you're flying
all over the play super Bowl. After the Super Bowl,
I went to Australia. I was jet lagged for like
a week. But I'm finally just getting into a routine again,
a workout routine like to feel strong, to feel confident
and dude, jewels. It's amazing. Man. I miss that, and

(09:59):
that's what I truly miss about the game of football
and being around, you know, all your teammates. Is that routine,
you know, and when you're down that day and you're
in the weight room, you're gonna get picked up no
matter what because you have a group of guys around you.
So it feels good. I just started back up on Friday.
I did a full leg workout. I really couldn't move
after that. But then that Saturday, I ran my first

(10:19):
five k in five years as well. It was my
first time running over a mile over you know, in
the last four years. I think I ran a mile
last year. I usually just do long distance sprints like
one hundred to one hundred and fifty yards. I think,
to me, that's long distance sprinting. But dude, let me
tell you that five k hurt more than anything.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Man.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
It was one of, you know, probably one of the
worst half hours I've had, you know, in my life.
The first ten minutes were cool, but from ten minutes
to forty minutes to finish a five k, man, I
wanted to cry, bro Like I really did want to cry,
Like it hurt that bad. Hurt, But what really hurt,
Like those sprints are cool burns off all the bad

(11:02):
all the bad calories, all the bad food in your body,
all the bad drinks that you've been drinking. But that
long distance run, bro, it was cleaning out my organs.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Man.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I never felt my organs work like that. I never
really go for twenty minutes straight. You Usually we want
to run a route, then we have forty five seconds off. Man,
my organs. I felt like my liver started sweating, my
small intestine started just like squeezing even more and just
bursting out sweat out of my stomach. And then my
freaking large intention was just squeezing it as well and

(11:34):
just detoxing everything out there. Man, it hurt, but let
me tell you, it felt so good. Man. It got
me back on track. Yeah. I couldn't move on Sunday,
but that's okay. I know you just got to take
one of those days and just use it as a
rest day as well. So I watched like five movies.
I actually watched dens of Thieves one and two. Man
Drab Butler, thank you for producing those movies and acting

(11:57):
in them, Because on an off day where I super
sore and could move. You had me entertained. Man, I
appreciate that. Brother we had.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
We recently had Osha Jackson on Games with Names?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Is Osha Jackson? Is that ice Cube Son?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
That is ice ce correct?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
So here we go. I'm watching the movie and obviously
the movie, uh Compton, right, what's straight out of Compton?
So I love that movie, and watching that movie, I
knew that was ice Cube Son playing ice Cube and
straight out Compton. So then I have Dens of Thieves
on and I'm like, all right, like that's ice Cube

(12:41):
Son again. So I go in the whatever where it
tells every all the actors' names and all that, and
I'm sitting there and I'm like, I don't see I
don't see ice Cube, Like I don't see the last
name of these cubel I'm like, I guess that's not him,
but it it's exactly like him. And then my friend

(13:03):
that recommended me the two the movies to watch dens
if the's one and two, he's like after I finished,
I was like, yo, bro, I appreciate that. That was
my style bomb movies. Thank you. He goes, yeah, ice
Cube Son does such a good job. And I was like,
I knew that was ice Cube son. I knew it,
but ice Cube, he's an ice Cube.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
No, it's Shaye Jackson. We should just have so you
saying he should just have ice Cube Junior on there.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
That's what I was looking for.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Your beauty, the great movies? What's the other two movies?

Speaker 2 (13:37):
The other I didn't watch? Those are the two movies
that I watched, and then I watched the show with
Oh man, it's it just came out on Netflix over
the last two weeks. It's top ten right now. Man,
I watched zero zero Day. How'd you know that cereal day?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
When I started it? Yeah, he's he got dementia.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Robert de Naro, He's out, He's got something going on?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Or is this is this sci fi? Is this sci fi?
Or is it? I'm still I'm It takes me. It
takes me on A forty five minute episode will take
me three nights to watch it.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
It'll take me three nights because I fall asleep after
ten minutes and then I got to rewatch and then
I'll watch like a It takes me so much time
to focus on those So like I'm I'm halfway through
the second episode and I'm still wondering if this is
dementia or if this is uh sci fi.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I feel like it's you know, the character that he's
playing and that he has possibly the first signs of dementia,
or or I don't think Robert.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I don't think Robert Daniir Junior is doing sci fi
right now or Robert.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Now you're all confused because of ice cube an ice cube.
It's not Robert dan Arrow Junior. It's just Robert than there.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
All right, it's a fresh Monday. My folks just got
out of town. I had him in town for eight days.
I'm flustered right now, man, I understand, But let's transition
into how about Jimmy Johnson retiring Jules.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I mean, it was a shocker, but it wasn't, you know,
really a shocker, because you know, Jimmy Johnson's you know,
been going forever. You know, he's eighty one, eighty two
years old. But it just didn't feel real that he
retired because he's been there for so long, and what

(15:39):
Jimmy Johnson brought to the table, you know, will never
be replaced, There's no doubt about that. And I was
just fortunate enough to work with Jimmy Johnson just a
few times this year because when he was on I
was off, and when I was on air, he was
off that weekend. And then we got to work the playoff.

(16:01):
So that's when I really got to know Jimmy Johnson
because I never truly worked with him on a continuous basis,
and I finally got to do that. So it was
an honor to be with him his last four five
weeks of his career at you know, at the NFL
pregame kickoff show. And what I loved about Jimmy Johnson
is just that, you know, that mindset that he brought

(16:24):
to the table, that smile that he brought every single morning, Yes, smile,
end of the day, that smile was gone and he
and he recognized that, and he told everyone that smile
is not going to be the end of the day
because he's a morning person. But in the morning, man,
he had a smile from here to here. And it
just brightened up my day whenever I saw that. But
the way that guy can just tell stories his second

(16:47):
to none. Man. I can sit there all day and
listen to him tell stories for six hours straight. Bro,
He's just that good at it. He's got a memory
that's you know, goes to the moon and balcon Yes,
he can remember every single thing that happened, all details
that happened from you know, throughout his whole entire career.

(17:09):
And the way he just tells those stories too, it
keeps you at the edge of your seat and you're
just there to listen to him and just enjoy them.
So thank you, Jimmy Johnson for everything that you have
done and just leaving an impact on my journey and
life forever. Even though we didn't get to work together
every single weekend.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Without a doubt, Jimmy was. Jimmy's like a football god man.
If you think about it, He's hit like the Big Three.
He's won a national championship in college, won Super Bowls
as a head coach GM, and then he also had

(17:49):
an insane media career and the top it the top it.
He probably has the best hairline in the history of TV.
That guy has a like his gray hairline. I remember
we were at Baker or wherever we went to. We
had a Bahamas trip and it was flowing. We were

(18:12):
doing some freaking Survivor team building thing, remember that I do.
And the Jimmy's over there. He was in his full
Survivor mode because he's done like three or four seasons
of that Survivor and almost won it wherever. I don't
know for fact, but he did a bunch of those
Survivor things. And Jimmy was leading us. He had pregame

(18:33):
talks and the wind was blowing. He had his shirt off.
I think he had like a little you know, bendan
on and I just saw his hair flowing in the
air with the beach at the beach, and I'm like, man,
that guy's got great hair.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
He does, but who has a better hairline, Jimmy Johnson
or mal kiper Jr.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I think Terry Bradshaw. No, it was such a pleasure
and it was such a treat for us, for me
to get to watch Jimmy Johnson work. I'd watch games
with them every Sunday, you know. I'd watch the first
set of games and then they go do the show

(19:17):
and just being a fly on the wall watching see
look at that hairline, being a fly on the wall
watching all you know, Howie Michael, Terry, Jimmy, Kurt Jay,
watching them all intermingle and and talk to each other

(19:38):
and talk about the show and talk about it just
felt like a locker room and it was really cool
to get to be able to watch that and be
a part of that for a couple of years. And
you know, this last super Bowl, I already kind of
set and told the story, but Jimmy threw me a nugget.
It was my first time going and watching a practice.

(19:59):
Went to the Chiefs practice pregame of the Super Bowl
just to kind of talk with people, get stuff insight
for the game, for the show that we were about
to do the pregame, and we were in that production
meeting and Jimmy threw out, you know, he goes, hey,
Joel's remember you know, we were sitting next to each
and he was talking about Juju. He gave me this
little nugget. He says, you could use that, and like

(20:19):
I was like, oh, it was perfect, And then I
used it in the show. And you know, Jimmy was
just always a just he's a coach. He coached me
right there, and he was a great coach at it.
And like you said in the morning, I was an
early bird. I'd get into the I get into the
show early, and we have an earlier production meeting, then

(20:41):
the big show, and I go up and grab a
coffee and Jamie Johnson at like five am, just sitting there,
like you said, ear to ear, smile freaking as a coach.
I think he knew the weather report. He was talking football.
We'd always talked something about, you know what was going on.
You know you're gonna miss those days. And I do

(21:02):
remember Terry Bradshaw and Howie Long telling a story where
when they said Jimmy was retiring, they had to remember
they had a they had a farewell dinner last year.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
It was about four or five years ago.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
This happened, Yeah, and they found out he was he
was coming back, so they left the goddamn dinner. So
those guys, it's been an absolute treat. We love We
love you, Jimmy, and we appreciate all the insight and
the knowledge you've given not just to us, but the viewer, players, coaches.

(21:43):
He's just given a lot of insight of what he's
learned from this game through the years that he's been
in it, and he's delivered it to everyone else. We
love you, Jimmy, Yes.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
That's for sure, Jimmy Johnson. We appreciate everything that you
have done for the game of football. You will be missed,
but you will always be remembered. My man. Thank you,
appreciate everything you have done.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
He's led heroes. I remember, Jimmy Legends never die.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
And he's a He's agend.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Are you taking the Are you taking the big spot? Now?
Are you? Are you full time? There?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
You know, Jules, I'm just gonna keep doing what I've
been doing, my man. You know, I have another year
left on my deal, and it's the same exact deal
that I had last year being part time. Uh thirteen
no nine appearances during the season, then all four playoffs
and it's a great gig that I have and I'm
just gonna sit back. Fox knows what they have with me,

(22:38):
So I'm just gonna sit back, relax, and if Fox
wants me to go full time, hey, I'm cool to
go full time. If Fox just wants me to play
out the year, I'm cool to play out the year.
This year part time again, man, So whatever it is,
it is very content with where I'm at right now
with everything. But uh, I'm just gonna play play it
off and uh how it is right now and just

(22:59):
do the best with whatever's going on.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I like that answer.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I appreciate that, Jules. I appreciate that. Man.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
I'm that answer.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
It's kind of like, you know, could just control where
you can control Jewles. That's what I'm going to do.
We learned that with Coach Belichick a lot. Just control
the you know, variables that you know that can make
you better. Uh and and that's what I'm doing here
as well, you know, on the broadcast team.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
I like that. I like that. Speaking of Coach Belichick
the off season, m h.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Coach, it's hitting big time. I mean, this guy has
had one of the biggest off seasons I've ever seen
in my life. He's he's making a splash every single weekend.
I mean, coach always worked on us.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Rap.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Even Roepi's getting in on this action he loved. But
just the way that he's presenting himself. I kind of
like it a lots because he kind of.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Like I saw him. He switched back though. When you
I he started spring practice. You see the spring practice
at North Carolina LT's there a bunch of hype and
and then they were asking him questions. He went right back.
He went right back to old Bill. Hey, we're gonna
we're it's good to have a football out here. You know,

(24:21):
we haven't even been able to do that. Look, we're
just trying to trying to learn the game.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Uh you know, well, you know, Jules, I think we should,
you know, uh, help help him out a little bit,
you know, we should we should make a trip down
to Chapel Hill.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
If should we go to Chapel Hill?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I mean, of course, I mean what I've done for
you guys, Jules, I gave you a career, you know, crack,
I drafted you. I think you guys should come to
Chapel Hill and help me out and show these guys
how it's done.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
He probably show us a mean a hell of a
frat party. I bet I bet he's dialed. He's dialed
with the frat party.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
What do you think of a weekend at U and
C would look like if we went down there, Jewels,
I mean, of course we would hit practice, talk to
the guys, all that good stuff. But what do you see?
How would it look in your eyes?

Speaker 1 (25:20):
You know, I've heard they have a pretty nice library.
I'd like to go see. You know, I heard there's
a couple historical landmark hallows there that would I heard
it's a beautiful campus, especially with right now in the spring.
I bet you it's beautifully popping right now with the

(25:40):
trees coming back.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Maybe uh, I would say, water some flowers to keep
the campus looking beautiful. Plant some trees, Jewels, plants, plant, Yeah,
keep the air.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
We just hit frat row ed, just fucking go crazy
with kids, beer ball.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
That's that's just called a nice roll down Franklin Street. Jewels,
Franklin Street, and you and I, I know, I know
all the good spots, Dollar Spots Street, Chapel Hill, Franklin Street.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Will see you soon. Oh shit, how about DK going
to goddamn Steelers?

Speaker 2 (26:24):
All right, Jules, here's my take. Right now, there has
been more action three days prior to free agency than
I've ever seen before in my life. Guys are getting
contract extensions, players are getting traded in, getting new contracts
that are making them a top five paid player at
that position. And here's my take on why there's so

(26:46):
many transactions right now before free agency hits. It's because
the free agent market is so mediocre. Right now, there's
no one mediocre exactly. That's what I was trying to say, Jewels,
Just like my speaking skills, mediocre, But that's okay. The
free agency, there's no player that should be the highest

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paid player in my opinion, that's a free agent right now.
Going into free agency, I think there's some good players,
but I don't think there's a player that's going to
change your team, you know, or be or should be
the highest paid player at that position. So that's why
I feel like there's so much, you know, going on,
and so many transactions going on right now because of

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that reason, Jules.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
What do you think, oh man, Chris Godwin got sixty
six million, forty four guarant he?

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Really that just happened? Did that just go down right now?
From who?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
The Tapa Bay now?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
From the Tampa Bay Bucks? Though? Right?

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah? I mean that makes sense. But Chris Godwin, I
would actually say.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
You left twenty mil on the table?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Really? How do you leave twenty mil on the table?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Pat's offered him twenty million more?

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Oh? Geez? But I mean why would why would you
you know, switch up your scenario? I mean, you're with
the Bucks. You know the offense, you got Baker Mayfield,
Tampa just a great city overall, you got the weather,
You've been familiar with it for your whole entire career.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Weather's everything, and he's getting older. I think just when
you're that old, when when you've been in a place
for so long, and that money's probably not that much more.
It's it probably was twenty million dollars on a non guaranteed.
He could have earned more money. I'm sure they got
it close to the guarantee. There's no way you want
to go learn a new offense, learn a new system,

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uproot your family, Like that's a great move for him, Miles,
Like with what you were saying, I agree, a lot
of these signings are probably of a lot of these signings,
like the Max Crosby, Miles Garrett, Josh Allen, those are
some of the best players. So I bet you those
teams did that before free agency because that number is

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probably gonna go even that much higher the longer they
wait for those three guys, Max Crosby, Josh Allen, Miles Garrett,
those three guys, like they those teams have to get
them done. And I think they're also probably trying to
create a little cap space with the bills extending them
because they get to pro eate that that contract over
those next five years as well. So I think he's

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gonna be a less of a hit even though he's
getting a contract extension for these next couple of years.
Josh Allen, I don't know for a fact, but that's
what it kind of looks like. I don't know what
were you gonna say, Rob, I was gonna say.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
That's back to my point. You see these teams taking
care of the guys that are the best in the
league right now instead of waiting for free agency to
pick someone up, because they're realizing, hey, we already have
the best player, you know at that position in the league.
Why are we gonna go get free agency and sign
a guy when we can sign our guy that should
be on this team for good. And that's what the

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Raiders did with Max Crosby, That's what the Buffalo Bills
did with Josh Allen. The Cleveland Browns did that with
Miles Garrett, which was a really kind of contra contradictory situation.
How do you say that where contradiction situation? Situation jewels
with that because Miles Garrett asked for a trade to

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a contender and then he signed the biggest deal in
NFL history of a non QB. I kind of want
to hear his explanation with that when he gets asked that,
you know by the media mark, he's going to be
asked that did he just say that to use that
as leverage maybe, or did he really want to go
to a contender, because if he wanted to go to
a contender, I don't think the Cleveland Browns are in

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are in the position to contend for a Super Bowl Jewels.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
And then I think I think that he wanted to
get out of there, and they just said, no, here,
here's thirty million a year, shut up and stay.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Now, he can just take five. He could take a
not out of there whenever he wants now, whenever he
has a day off, yes, hours off, he can get
out of there and it won't even affect his bank
account anymore. Those PJ says how much money he's making?
And then Chris Godwin, I mean, back to my free agency.
He was the best wide receiver in the free agency

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class coming up, but he never even hit free agency
to really think about it, because that starts Wednesday, and
the Tampa Eineers just just signed them already because they
were smart. They knew they shouldn't let him go. And
you know what, makes him so special is that he's
so consistent as well. He's such a great teammate, you know,
on the field, great teammate off the field, just a

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great overall guy. He works hard. He you know, he
goes out to practice with a purpose to get better,
to know what he has to do. He's very very
reliable whenever his number is called, and he knows how
to make big plays in big moments as well. It's
just very unfortunate what happened to him last year with
that injury. You know, with a couple's you know, minute

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or two left in the game when they're getting blown out.
But that's just football. That happens. But it's good to
see him back in Tampa. He deserves to retire as
a Tampa Bay Buccaneer for everything that he has done
for the uniti here and for the team. And uh,
just Chris Godwin, congratulations man on that contract.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Shout out to Tampa Bay for taking care of a
player that even though he got hurt. M Well, that's
a couple a couple of times they got hurt.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah that that didn't really go your way, Juels.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
It didn't go we were back in those I guess
they didn't pay. Then how about Tommy getting Gino Smith? Uh,
I think that kind of makes sense, you know, bridge quarterback, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
You know. And then also you got Pete Carroll as
the head coach SAR. And Pete Carroll is the one
who brought Geno Smith in and and kind of you know,
gave him that second chance and and made his second
chance a resurrection you know, on his quarterback career. And
now he got traded to the Raiders. So he's teaming
back up with Pete Carroll. So I think, you know,

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Golly can use him. Chip Kelly, he's the oh see wow,
I didn't know that. So I knew he was at
Ohio State won that national championship, and then he was
also the head coach at UCLA because I know that
because he was in my bowl game, the LA Bowl,
and he won it, you know, two years ago. But
Chip Kelly's all over the place. I think Chip Kelly

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is a guy that has enough experience that knows how
to handle you know, any quarterback in any situation.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
So I think, I mean, this is a good trade.
They don't have a fucking quarterback under roster mm hm,
so you know, yeah, you have third round pick. You
know what you're getting with Geno Smith. He'll be a
guy that you know can can get the offense going.
But also he's not an asshole. It looks like with

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with other quarterbacks. So if they draft someone or they
get a I mean, he has fought. He has fought
a player on his team ember the Jets. He fought
one of the guys, but he grew up a lot
after that. He's grown up and he's he's a completely
different player from that. But he brings at least someone
that can run an NFL operation. They have no one.

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They don't have anyone, so you know, I think that
was a great pick up. I'm still interested to see
what they do in the in the draft. Raiders are
getting to become excited. I think the Rams getting Davante
Adams that could be sneaky, really good. They struggled in
the red area. He's a really good red area target.

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Him and Pooka are gonna be fun. Puka Nakua, he's
gonna be able to I think this is gonna make
Puoca better because you get to learn from what you know.
A guy like Davante Adams, who you know, he's a
pro he's been in there for a while. I got
to hang out with Puka at the Pepsi event at

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the Super Bowl, and he was such a cool kid,
just like he's a he's a Vegas bro. Works hard.
I think we're ripping a vape together. He's just fun.
He was just a fun, due dude that like loves.
You could tell he loves to work hard. He's fucking young,

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He's got a lot of energy. Bro, my type of guy.
I won't an he kahoop and he's pouly like he
loves right down the street. I gotta get pook into
the house. I gotta meet him in the nutthouse. Bro.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Bro, right before you just told that story about you
meeting him at the super Bowl, I was literally just
gonna say the same thing that I met Pooka on
the Kua you know, at the k Adams show at
the Super Bowl this year. We were in the back
room together in the green room, and man, let me
tell you, I love that guy, Jules. He might be

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my favorite wide receiver in the NFL. Now, Dude, he
was just a dude's dude and he was just so cool.
He was laid back, you know, he was a free spirit.
I really wish that he was on the New England Patriots.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
But he likes to work. He loves to tell he
likes to work.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Obviously, you don't become that, you know, that solid on
the field without working hard. But also he loves to
have fun too, and he just seems like he's got,
you know, right, the right chip on his shoulder, and
just he would have been great.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
He would have been he would.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Have the best man. I love it.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I love meeting him. The fuk Is was a we
called a house in Foxborough. The fuk We're like we
were all younger players at the time and we all
used to congregate and hang out after fucking like spring meetings.
We played cornhole, we gamble, we go, you know, do

(36:37):
stupid ship like the fuk Is where it was at.
And he is a fucking fuke member for sure. Dane Fletcher,
Nico Kuda, Vides, Shane VeryE, vn Tron Gronk. We'd always
make fun of Nikovich.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Outcaster, always trying.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, he know, Nikovich would literally we'd be having like
a little shin dig at the fuk and Ninko would
come with this big ass great day and he'd be
walking around at like nine thirty at night. He'd be like, hey, guys,
Page is sit, I'm on a walk. Let me give
me a shot. Let me get a shot. Let me remember.
He would sack three shots. He's like, all right, Page

(37:22):
is gonna kill me. I gotta go, and he go
walk home. Two hours later, he'd come back with the dog.
He's like, yeah, I'm taking the dog to take a
ship right now. Let me he'd rip another shot that
he'd go back to his house like Ninko, let's go, Nico,
we'll be doing.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
It's the same old Ninko to this.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
But Puka, Puka looks like a guy that was would
have been in the fuke. He would have been in
the food.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Pooka. Keep it up, my man, keep it up.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Oh, Pat's making some moves. Bro mm hmm. Pat's making
some moves, spending some of that gwop that gouda, that jetta.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
All right, Jules, I got a question real quick, though.
So today's Monday. Free agency technically doesn't start till Wednesday,
But is today the day that they can start talking
to the teams.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
I think it's the tampering period.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah, that's where you can talk to the teams and
come up with an agreement on a contract, but technically
you a're not allowed to sign it until Wednesday? Is
that how it works officially?

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I believe so. The legal tamperine period is three ten
to three twelve. This is it's the stupidest rule ever.
They basically make the contract two days before free agency.
All right, but it is what it is. Pats are
signing guys Carlton Davis three years, sixty dollars thirty five

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thirty four point five guaranteed, played with you in Tampa.
Is that a good signing?

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah, that's a great sign And Carlton Davis still has
some you know left in the tank, no doubt about that.
And when I got down to Tampa, I didn't know
who Carlton Davis was. He was young, you know, he
was a young buck, you know, just trying to make
a name for himself. And I was literally like, who
is this dB that we got on the roster. He's tall,
he's a little bit skinny, but like he has that
thump to him, you know, he has that strength to him,

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not necessarily weight room strength, but he has that football strength.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Like leverage, yeah, long leverage strength.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
And those are the hardest DB's I believe, you know,
to get open versus that are taller, skinnier, lengthy, but
are quick too. And that's what Carlton Davis brings to
the table is those you know traits right there. So
that's a really good signing by the New England Patriots.
And that's gonna be a duel right there. Christian Gonzalez

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and Carlton Davis lined up at the defensive back position
for the New England Patriots in the backfield. Let me
tell you then, they're not going to be a lot
of teams throwing on these guys, you know.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
No, that's too the corners. And then they also got
you know, Harold Landry edge rusher. If you get a
guy to get a little pressure on that cour quarderback,
that's when the interceptions come flying when you have a
good secondary. So you know someone he's a Rabel guy
played with Rabel in Tennessee. Three years, forty three point

(40:11):
five million, twenty six guaranteed. And then I think this
is a really good signing. The Morgan Moses signing three years,
twenty four million. Veteran right tackle started fourteen games last
year with the Jets, I expect that they gotta get
more lined. Anytime you're adding to the line, young quarterback,

(40:35):
it's like cow bell, more line. We need more cowbell,
more line, more line, more line the game. Look at
all the greatest teams this year. Last year, they all
had the best offensive lines. Philadelphia, Detroit. The Lions had
a young offensive line that they've been developing that has
become very good in the run game. They're not in

(40:58):
that same category. But the Chiefs, they had a really
good offense line makeshift at the end because they got
banged up. That's why they've had a lot of success.
You got to have a great offensive line. So I
like Patch getting more lineman. Let's we'll talk more free
agency when the dust settles, because it hasn't even started

(41:19):
technically legally. But it has started technically legally, but we
don't know the rules. But it's weird. We'll be right
back after this quick break. I think we should get
into making our team.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it, dude.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
So let's get into the all Dudes defensive team.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Rob Let's do it, Jules. We had the All Dudes
offensive team last week. That was fun, but now today
it's the All Dudes defensive team. It's the dudes that
we love this year from each defensive position. And Jules,
where are we going to start here? Where do you

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want to start? I?

Speaker 1 (41:58):
You know, just talking about out the trenches, let's talk,
let's talk about the big boys, let's get let's go
interior line. That d tackle probably, if you talk to
most football people, the d tackle is probably one of
the most important positions in football. If you've got a

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guy that could plug, because then you you allow that
guy to take away the run game and then the
outside guys can eat. But if you have a guy
that could take away the run game and then also
put a little pressure on that quarterback in the middle
of the pocket, which all quarterbacks hate, that's when you
get suicide missions.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
And when you have a defencive tackle like a Vince Wolfork,
you know, say that big, that athletic, they instantly take
the run game up the middle away, like you don't
even game plan to run the ball up the middle,
Like that's just totally taken away. And that's that's a
whole aspect. That's all the whole you know, quarter of
a playbook that you have is running the ball up

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the middle. So that just shows the importance of an
all pro you know, defensive tackle, what they can do
for a team and all due defensive tackle. And on
top of it, they want to get to the quarterback
because what defensive lineman doesn't want to sack the quarterback.
So these guys can get to the quarterback as well
because they're so athletic being that size. It's like Vince Wolfork,

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I mean, you were never going to run the ball
on him going up the A gap or B gap
and then every once in the while he was just
so athletic. He would beat his you know, offensive lineman
that was going firsus and he was sacked the quarterback
and the quarterback would be scared shitless because Vince Wolfork
was so big that they didn't want him to land
on him, you know, on the you know, the quarterback

(43:49):
didn't want Vince to land on them. So that just
shows the importance of these dudes. So, Jules, who do
you got.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Let's hear your guys, I you know, well, our nominee,
Chris Jones thirty seven tackles near three peat could have
the greatest season ever, come a long way from his
Wiener flopping out at the Combra. He's come a long way.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
That video will always be played every year always.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
He's He's a character too. I love Chris Jones. He's
made big plays. He's a nominee. Jalen Carter, I mean
anyone with bread Man Jalen as his ig handle. He's
an old dude guy. Forty two tackles, total tackles. He's
just a problem. I mean, we we do pregame shows
all year and we talk about those two a lot.

(44:40):
Dexter Lawrence unbelievable football player. Just been on a shitty team,
been on a shitty team and it's tough. He's had
nine sacks last year, forty four tackles, and he's got
a cool name, Dexter's Laboratory. You guys remember that on.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Network. I watched a show All the Time's Laboratory was
one of my big hits growing up as a kid,
and Dexter Lawrence kind of reminds me of the Dexter's Laboratory.
So that that's pretty cool, man, that's pretty cool. What
kind of dude is Dexter from Dexter's Laboratory?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Would you say, Jules Whiz Without a doubt, you're right.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
You're right, you hit it right on. That's what I
was thinking too.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Another nominee, Vitevea. He doesn't even wear gloves and he's Polynesian.
He's huge. That's why he's my nominee.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Those Polynesians just have that raw strength as well. They
just go into the weight room, they just chuck up
like four fifteen for ten on the bench and then
they just walk out of the weight room and it's
like just jaw dropping, like how the heck did he
just do that? That's like I.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Want to sit around a gatorade jug filled with kVA
and just drink with him. I just want to drink
kava with Vitavea. That's that's he's He's automatic. I mean,
he had in a really good year, seven sacks, and

(46:05):
he's just a problem. He's huge. But I just want
to have convo with them. So he's my nominee. Quinnin
Williams from the Jets. He's just he's fucking big, huge,
and I just I love whenever he talks on an
interview he says fun shit. What about saying funny shit?

Speaker 2 (46:26):
What about another Williams, Leonard Williams, you know from the
Seattle Seahawks who he started his career I'm pretty sure
on the New York Giants and then went to the Jets.
Or did he start his career with the Jets and
then went to the Giants. I'm pretty sure he started
with the Jets, went to the Giants, and then he
went over to Seattle. And I love the year that

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Leonard Williams had. You know, he had eleven sacks, He
had that interception that he brought to the house. I
think it was about eighty plus yard interception, and just
to see his athletic ability and the way that he ran,
I mean, it was probably the longest he ever ran
in his career, but he brought it to the house
and it was just so cool for a big man
to do that. Everyone went crazy, uh, you know when

(47:06):
he did do that. And on top of it, I
had a block him before Julian and it was one
of the most impossible tasks I ever had to do
when he was on the Jets and the Giants, when
I was on the Patriots and I was going versus.
So I just want to give props to Leonard Williams
for his year that he had. You know, one of
the toughest defenders. You know, I've ever had a block.
I was never moving him, but I got in his way.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
I could say, well, he's a nominee for All Dude then,
because any guy Rob Gronkowski can't move h is an
old dude to me. First team, second team. Who do
you got, Rob.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Oh Man, Well, I'm going with Jalen Carter just because
he's a Super Bowl champ and he's got his ig
handle bred Mann Jalen and just a way that he
came through. That's what being an All Dude is. You
come through at the right moments. Julian, you came through
Super Bowls, you came through in the playoffs. I came through.
You know that some of the biggest moments in the playoffs.

(48:05):
You know when when my number was called and Jalen Carter,
he came through for the Philadelphia Eagles when it was
most needed. He sacked Matthew Stafford or put pressure on
him so he had to throw the ball away on
that last play. Descend Was it to send the Philadelphia
Eagles to Super Bowl or was it to send them
to No, Yeah, it was the send of Philadelphia Eagles

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to the Super Bowl because of Jalen Carter coming through
on the last play of the game. So that's a
dude's dude, and he's just so big, beastly, fast, strong.
I just got to give him props. And he seems
like a dude that you want to party with too.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Jules, Definitely, I agree. First team Jalen Carter. Second team
Vita Vea just because he's Polynesian and I want to
drink cobo with him.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Just never slap his ass, Julian. One time, you know
one of those moves, were you just going around and
slapping everyone's ass In practice, I slapped Vita Vea's asked
it's like, let's go, let's have a day, and he
looked at me and like like he was about to
kill me, bro, and he was like, never slap my
ass again. And I was like, no problem for yout know,

(49:09):
whatever you say, I'll do. And to this day I
never slept his ass again. Jules, I take it.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Will not slap his ass, but we'll love to have
some cobba with him. Let's go on to our next,
our next position, Let's get to the edge. First team
the guy that gets all the attention on defense. These
guys get a lot of attention, they get a lot
of money. Who are nominees?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Rob all right, we got Miles Garrett. He's the obvious
nominee here. He just signed one of the biggest deals
in history history. Oh, actually it was the biggest deal
in history.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Four quarterback quarterback.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
He's just a game wrecker, fourteen sacks. It was his
worst sack year, I think was his rookie year when
he only had seven. But he only played in eleven
games that year. Miles Garret one of the most consistent,
you know, edge rushers in the game of football ever
in history. Too bad. He's been playing for the Cleveland

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Browns forever or else. He would even be more well
known if he was on a popular team that's been winning.
But Miles Garrett first nominee. He's going to be either
one or two as well, Jules. We also got Trey Hendrickson.
This guy was a sack leader. He was a bright
spot on the struggling Cincinnati's defense this year. He wants out,

(50:31):
he wants out, but he might get paid. He might
be you know, pulling the Miles Garrett effect where he
says he wants out and then he might just get
one of the biggest deals in history as well. Where
do you think he would go, though, Jules, if they
actually do trade him? And what's cool about Trey Hendrickson.
I faced him a couple of times. Strong guy, built, strong,
can't really move him, you know, high motor, hard worker.

(50:54):
But he was cool enough he wanted the jersey swap
with me, Jules, so he actually sent me one of
his Cincinnati Bengals jerseys. Check it out. Yes, it's one
of the coolest jerseys. I actually ever put my hands
on it. I'm telling you, the material feels good, it
looks good. Trey Hendrickson, Thank you, man.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Rap I mean jersey swaps.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
You got not a lot, man, just a few, don't I.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Have a few too. I got a couple. Kick guys.
I gotta I gotta, I gotta go. Look. But Trey
Hendrickson nominee. We've I'd be I'd be weird not to
say that. Miles Garrett's also nominated because he has awesome
Halloween costumes, and I'd become a Halloween person ever since
my daughter. I really never liked Halloween, but she loves

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Halloween and she's already talking about costumes. So Miles garretton
that TJ Watt, he is a nominee eleven and a
half sacks, got hurt again, but he's about to get
paid a lot.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
We also got Nick Bosa nine sacks. He was p
f f's thirty fifth best player of the year. I mean,
I would say nine sacks is kind of a down
year though for Nick Bosa. You know, he was one
of the highest paid at the time. I think he
broke the record for being the highest paid non quarterback
at one point two years ago. But now Miles Garrett

(52:15):
absolute blew out away. Max Crosby absolutely blew out away
as well, and then Bosa. Yeah, love him.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
He's crazy. I saw him at uh we hung out
at UFC in Miami last year or something, and I
just I couldn't stop looking at his diyes in those genes.
I was like, Man, this dude's so fucking big. He
looks like he looks like a cave man. He's so

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large and his waist isn't even that big. It was weird.
Michael Parsons, he's also a nominee, saw him at Super
Bowl in an uber crossing the Street, said he would
podswap with me. I said, I would love to he's
fucking awesome. What do you think the convos between him

(53:05):
and Jerry Jones are.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Like, Ah, I mean it's a Jerry. You just see
what Miles Garrett got paid. I mean, you might as
well just give me that same contract before you owe
me five million dollars more if you let me hit
free agency next year. That's what I would say. If
I was Michael Parsons.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Would you really Yeah, I really would when you were
Michael Parsons age or your age now.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Michael Parson's age actually with the experience and knowledge and
not being so fearful, I would have to be my
age of being able to go up to someone's stone
of that type of status. And Jerry Jones, but at
twenty four, twenty five years old, I would have let
my I would have let my agent do that one.

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I taught my agent up to it.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Well, while Chop Robinson and there we go, Jules. I
was going with Chop Robinson too. Why because he has
a cool name. He had a solid rookie year. He
had six sacks. I don't think he's gonna be one
or two on the All Dues team, but he's definitely
just needed to be mentioned. Because of the year that
he had and he's gonna be a future star at
the edge position.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
That's a great edge rushing name. Top Robinson. Top Robinson's
coming to get you.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
The only way to take down mister Robinson is to
chop him. So get your.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Ass low, boys, get your ass low, just like Kyle
Vanoy did all year at thirty three years old with
twelve and a half sacks all pro joker. Mm hmm.
Freaking Kyle Vanoy's still doing it.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Love that guy. Love Kyle, I love him. I played
with him in New England and one time he gave
me the electric chair. He was guarding me one on
one outside and boom he at me and like it
stunned me off the line. And then ever since that
day he still brings it up to me. He asked
me how that electric chair is doing because the electrocuted
me right off the line. I couldn't get off the

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line of scrimmage. So props of Kyle van NOI man,
That's when I knew he was a dog. When he
did that to me, I was like, dang. And then
he's still going. He's still going.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
You remember the first day he came to New England
after we traded for him in like the middle of
the season. I got kicked out of practice.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
I don't really remember this, Jeels, I don't think I
got kicked.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Out of practice. But Bill got really mad at me.
I don't know it was what happened. I blocked him.
I lit him up his first like it was his
first day there, and I lit his ass up. I
forgot what but I hit him really hard and Coach
got mad at me. I said, what this is? Welcome,

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Welcome to the team, bro, we practiced hard here.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Dog.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
This ain't Detroit. He'll be walking They'll be walking around
this land thinking you could just fucking tittley wink. You
can't tittly wink around here.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
That's one thing you did love to do. When a
new player came to the team, Jewels, you showed them
what's up. You showed him that we worked haired. You
showed them that we practiced at as hard as we play.
It's like you and Stefan Gilmour. You were going at
him when he first signed with the Patriots. You did
it with Kyle van Noy, you did it with a
couple other signings or guys that we traded for. So
we appreciate you doing that, man, you know, setting the

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standard for the new guys, even if they were Vets.
You know, that's what's up.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
We needed a heart and old van Oy up. But
fucking he was. He was cool. We ended up growing
having a great relationship after that. He's it's unbelievable to
see that. You know, he's still balling at twelve and
a half sacks a lot of sacks, dude, thirty three
years old?

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Well who you got on your first team? Jewels? Come on,
let's hear it. I'm going I'm gonna tell you who's
on my first team. I'm going with Trey Trey had
I mean, he just led the league in sacks. He
sent me the jersey which I'm going to reach you, Rob,
Hall of Fame career and Hall of Fame character. That's right, baby,
I got Hall of Fame character. I appreciate that. Thank
you for everything. God bless and Trey. I still owe

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you a Tampa Bay jersey because we went versus each
other plenty of times when he was on the Saints
and I was on and I was on the Bucks.
So I'll be sending that jersey out when I find it.
It's stuffed in my garage right now at the bottom
because I'm cleaning out the house. But that jersey will
be coming your way once I eventually get it. Man,
and you're you're my first team, my first all Dudes,

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team of.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
All time, first team.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Hendrickson h I mean, he had a heck of a year, man.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Heck of a year. I'll give you that second team
for me. Then Miles Garrett, That's.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Who I was going with. It's got to be Miles Garrett, man,
he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
I trained with Mason Rudolph good for you know, like
a few times he threw to me. But anytime a
guy takes a goddamn helmet off and tries to beat
another man with it, I mean, that's all dude to me.
That's all dude to me. Let's get onto the next
episode or the next position. Safety The nominees Xavier McKenny

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of Green Bay eight interception sixty tackles hasn't posted on
IG since August. He's locked in. He's in zero dark
thirty mode. It's been August. Like him. Kyle Hamilton one
of my favorite football players, solid third years, like he's
around doing everything. He's just I think he's a really

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good football player, great tackler, makes big plays, he covers
tight ends too.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
And he's a big guy as well. Those are the
hardest guys to get open against. So the guys that
are quick and then also big and lanky, because that's
my skill set. I use my length and my size
to my advance. And then when you got a guy
like Kyle Hamilton who's a bigger safety who can stay
with you, it makes it it's annoying. There you go,

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you hit it right on. It's annoying. It's like he's
always there because you're so used to, like, you know,
giving a little shove to a little guy and then
the ball being there and they can't reach and you know,
deflect the pass. Well, Kyle Hamilton has that length that
he can reach and deflect the past sense, So it
is annoying. It's like that bug, that fly that's always
around the house that you can't just swat.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Away without a doubt. I agree with a thousand percent.
Kyle Hamilton's that Brian Branch's a nominee from Detroit. I mean,
he's one. He's not only a baller, but he's one
of the guys that stayed healthy on that defense, one
of like three, unlike so.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Of Detroit's defense. Yeah, yeah, that was though. I think
they would have Super Bowl. Yeah, that was unfortunate to
see so many injuries.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
That's why it's hard to win the Super Bowl. That's
when people don't realize everything's got to go the right way.
To A Baker of Arizona nominee Sick Name ninety five
solo tackles reminds me of Bob Sanders back in the day.
Remember Bobby Sanders from Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
I do he was. He was kind of like he was.
He was shorter, but he was more thick.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
He was jacked, I know. But he just was like
a torpedo, like he would just come down. He didn't
care about his body and he would blow himself up.
Didn't play many games because he literally blew himself up.
But that's how Buddha Baker plays him. He plays like downhill,
full speed all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Kind of like an Earl Thomas back in the day
when he was on Seattle.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Like Earl Thomas, Earl Thomas and then read blanket Ship Philadelphia,
exciting white third year. Four interceptions got to put him
on a nominee and then our alumni nominee Rodney Harrison.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Rodney the two, two thousand and two, the two thousand
and four, Rodney Harrison just always laying the wood over
the middle. How much did Bill talk about Rodney Jeweles.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
I mean we talked every anytime it was we were
starting pads practice like that was like clockwork. Every fucking look,
you know, this is where it separates people. They're not
in underwear. Guys like Rodney Harrison would fucking hit you
like you know, we'd always hear Rodney Harrison, Rodney Harrison

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and that. But Rodney was also around, and I liked
Rodney because he would I remember him talking to some
of the younger dbs, like putting him in their place,
young guys that were young minded. You know. I think
he should be in the Hall of Fame. He should
definitely be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
He should be all around good player.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
My first team for safety, Kyle Hamilton, I think he's
a baller. Third year. He's got to stay healthy, continue
to get that defense going. They always find Baltimore always
finds a secondary guy and a linebacker. And they got

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themselves the secondary guy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
And the second team, All dudes safety, I'm pretty sure
you're gonna agree with me here at Jules. We love
his name, love the way that he plays the game
as well. Just fearless out there, out out in the
backfield of the defense. And that's Buddha Baker from the
Arizona Cardinals. Man. I mean, guy's a monster for his

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size and he's just all over the place. He's always
around that ball. When you're always around that football, good
things happen to you. And that's what Buddha Baker, you know,
brings to the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I mean, he did get chased down by DK, but
DK is a long man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
DK is long, he's got a stride, he's fast, and
he just got paid one hundred and fifty million dollars
because Dka as an absolute freak of nature.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Jules absolute. What's going to our next position, All dudes,
cornerback our nominees, Patrick Sir Tan, the second fourth year
in got paid ninety six point zero zero millions, just

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a lot ninety six point You just want to say,
point m a million dollar extension. No one throws to him.
There's a reason why Derek Single, Derek Stingley junior out
of Houston. I think he's a ball or five interceptions.
Third year Patriot, bloodline, grandson of Darryl Stingley, wide receiver

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receiver Sauce Gardner, a nominee in Buffalo wil Wings ads,
got a cool name, already a star. She would didn't
have his strongest year this year though it wasn't as
it wasn't as strong, but a lot of distractions in
New York this year, especially on defense, like twenty different coaches.

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Jalen Ramsey got paid three year, seventy two million dollar
extension Byron Murphy out of Minnesota. Six interceptions. So let's
what's our I think our first team corner easy. Patrick's
are ten two.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Yeah, that's an easy choice. I mean he's been the
heart and soul of the Denver Broncos defense and they
don't even throw his way, like I wish they threw
his way more to see you know what type of
player he is in all situations, but no one will
even give him that chance because he's just that lockdown.
And when you're that lockdown, you're getting paid as the

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top corner like you just did, and no one's gonna
throw your way because you're just that good. That's kind
of like Revis's Island, Like no one would really dare
throw to that side of the field because you just
know that it's not going to be powered.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Pultn't im in Revis Islands.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Like Revis Island, Man, it's like no one throws his way,
Like just like Revis Island, how they want to throw
his way?

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
And our second team we're going Stingley Juniors because he
got Patriot bloodline. I think that's cool any time you
got bloodline, all right, Corner number two, First Team All
Dude nominees. Trent McDuffie. He was so built. I didn't
realize he was so big on the bottom end. I
saw him at practice. He had a big bottom end

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like legs dies. He was fucking like. He looked like
a horse. He also had sixty TFLs, thirteen pass defense,
two interceptions, made a lot of big plays on third down.
Christiangan Zalez rob.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Yeah, he came back from injury this year. I mean
he had a solid rookie year going on. Now got hurt,
which was unfortunate, but he had a solid, solid, solid,
you know, sophomore season with New England. He's just a stud.
He wears number zero, and you gotta give him some
love because he's just a quiet whiz. You know, he's

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a good guy. And when you're a quiet, you know
type of person, you really sometimes really don't get that
much love, especially when you know you're on a team
that hasn't won over the last two years. So Christian Gonzalez,
keep doing your thing. The love is gonna come. Uh,
the all pros are gonna come, All the Pro Bowls
are gonna come eventually, but uh, just keep doing you man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
And he works with mental health. I see him on
an AD all the time, mental health ad.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
We should sign up Jewels.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
I need it, I need it. Cooper dejene is an
exciting white at a pick six on his birthday in
the Super Bowl. That's pretty fucking cool. But I put
him more in the star category. He's a nickel, more
of a nickel not he can't be in. You know
that he's not there yet. Denzel Ward forty two tackles,

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two interceptions, seventy year in Cleveland lockdown Corner. I've always
respected his game and he makes me think of Denzel
Washington because of his name. You know, seven years in
Cleveland you gotta have some kind of award.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
J C. Horn out of Carolina. He's a baller. Sixty
eight tackles, two interceptions, two sacks. Pro bowler. Just got
paid for for a buck one hundred million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
What about his dad? Master of touchdown celebrations, Joe Horn.
They had the cell phone celebration jewels, remember that back
in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Took it out of the field goal and post pad.
It was pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Yeah, the field goal post path.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
He's a ball That was cool.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Baller man, that's cool. I didn't know that j. C.
Horn was the son of Joe Horn. So that's a
learning fact right there. You know, you always learn something
new every day, Jules.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Everything that you learned that j. C. Horn is a
son of Joe Horn? Is I here, Alexander. This guy
cracks me up. I think he's a good corner. I
think he's a little young. But I just loved the
story when he came out to captain against the North

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Caro when they played Carolina Panthers and he wasn't even
a captain and the coach asked him, why did you
go out? And he goes coach, I'm from North Carolina,
you must' didn't realize, and so he put himself and
nominated himself for captain that game. I think he got
suspended the next week. But that was a funny thing.

(01:08:49):
That was funny to me. That's all. That's all, dude, jokester.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
That is man, that's good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
First and second team. First team for me, I'm going
Trent McDuffie. I think he's a stud.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
What I love about Trent McDuffie is that he knows
how the jam guys off the line. And that's when
a lot of routes are one is right off the
line of scrimmage, once you get around the guy. But
Trent McDuffie is a guy that you can't really, you know,
beat him at the very beginning. You gotta beat him
at the top of your route because he can jam you.
And that's why I appreciate, appreciate it about his game

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when I was watching him over the last few.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Years with Kansas City second team.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Rob, I'm gonna go with uh, your guy, Jules, your
guy Jaire Alexander after that story that you just told,
I'm going with Alexander, Man, I'm going with him. How
about you? What do you think? What do you think
with that one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
I was gonna go I thought were real Christian Gonzalez?
Uh he was? Was he no Pro this year?

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
No? He kind of got shafted like I seen second
Oh really he got shafted from the Pro Bowl, That's
what it was. But second team All Pro? All right,
I'm gonna take that back because I am a big
fan of Christian Gonzales. I think he should be second
team for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
We like his shut down. He shut downs defenders. If
you see the stats that those top wide receivers had
one going one on one with Christian Gonzales, he would
be like, why is Christian Gonzales not an All Pro
first team? You know, because he shut them all down.
It was something like twenty yards per game. He had
a great year and he's just going to continue to
get better.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Bill drafted him. Oh, let's move on. Two linebackers, All dudes.
Linebackers nominees. Patrick Queen Pittsburgh went over from Baltimore in
Division leaves new team sixty five solo tackles. He's a

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Steven Ridley Randy Moss level fisherman. Check out his ig.
Guy loves fishing. My brother's a big Fisherman. I always
respect that frank Louvo, how do you say it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Louvu Louvu?

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
My bad Frankie. Frankie Louvu first year in Washington, fifty
four solo tackles, he's simoing and you know that that's
that hurts that that's a special spot in my heart.
They hold a special spot. And his dad played for
the Fiji national rugby team.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
What about Frankie louvou with when they were playing the
Philadelphia Eagles and there tush pushing to get into the
end zone, he just kept jumping off sides. You met him, remember, Yeah,
we did beat him real quick. That was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
The night before we got we got ivs with them
before the game, before the game, give mini luck. Clearly
he got blown out, but he was a fucking cool dude.
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
He's a baller. I love I love the way that
can get off the line of scrimmage. He has that
first step and seems like a guy that's hard to
move like that. He's got the hit stick. When I
was watching him in that game.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Definitely Zach Bond Swiss Army Knife. Philadelphia Eagles was a
team or comes over is all pro All Pro, was
a special teamer to All Pro ninety three solo tackles.
Had a really good pick in that in the Super Bowl,
he had a super pick and he had a couple.

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This guy bawled out. Man, Howie Roseman just finding diamonds
in the rough. Just signed a three year fifty one
million Eagles pay everyone. I don't know how they do it.
And then we got to have our alumni, Dante H
High Tower. I just he's an all dude because of
his calves m h.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Biggest calves in the league, Jules by.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Far, and he gets so mad at me when I
call him Dante, but his name is Dante. And then
Mario Davis from New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
He was a.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Baller this year, sixty nine solo tackles. He is thirty
six years old and still getting after it. Shout out
fun fact Snapple fact, Steve McNair Air McNair's cousin HM.
Crazy story about that McNair crazy story.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
I watched the Mario Davis play and I know he's
a year older than me, and I just watched him
playing at that high level still to this day, and
it just makes me wonder how he's doing it. I'm like, man,
I'm a year younger than him, and I can't picture

(01:13:50):
myself being able to do that anymore. And this guy
is just going out there and he's playing at the
highest level possible at the linebacker position. And he's thirty
six years old. So shout out up to his longevity.
I mean, great player when he was on the New
York Jets. He's a great player, you know, through his thirties,
you know, being on the New isine Saints. So whatever

(01:14:11):
you're doing, man, keep it up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
You're straight people up baller. First team linebacker Zach Bond,
Philadelphia Eagles. Okay, this guy reinvented himself, had the storybook
ending to a year this year, gets signed to Philadelphia,

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hasn't played a major role on defense, goes out, becomes
All Pro, wins the Super Bowl, and then gets a
big paycheck. He's a first team All Dude, second team
All Dude for you, Rob.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Second team All Dude. I really do like Dante's high
Towers calves, but that's the level that we're looking at.
You know, I'm still wondering if those calves were even
real jewels. Every day I looked at.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Those bat implants were a thing in that earlier in
that time exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
But I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with the
Mario Davis. I mean, just what he's doing at that position,
you know, just at that age as well, he had
sixty nine solo tackles and that's been an All Dude.
This guy knows how to get it done. Sixty nine
is a great number. He could have had probably seventy

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seventy one tackles this year, but he stopped right there
and that's why he's an All Dude. And he's on
the All Dude second team defense for linebackers, Jewels.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
And then honorable mention done to high towers Cavs. On
to the next position, the green dot, the linebacker that
makes the calls in the middle of the field, that
has the microphone, quarterback of the defense. Nomine's Rokwan Smith

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of Baltimore, three years All Pro, three years in a row,
All Pro stud to Mario Davis, even though he's a
green doc guy. But we gave him on there. We're
just gonna put him on there. Bobby Wagner, guys thirty
four years old, still flying. We played against him in
a Super Bowl years ago. Was he he was on

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that team, right, he was. He was young on that team. Yeah,
he was absolute stutt stutt zire Franklin one hundred and
seventy three total tackles let the league, one hundred and
seventy three.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
How do you possibly have one hundred and seventy three tackles?

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
He's just that's a tackle every play.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Absolute maniac.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Fred Warner, he's tribal to me. He's like, hey, I
saw him do the Lebron throw up. You know where
Lebron throws. He was doing that with grass before a
joint practice against the Raiders in Vegas. He took grass,

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he was smelling it and throwing it up like that's
an old dude to me. And then Nick Bolton Kansas City.
I wonder if there's any relation to Michael Bolton. He's
the anchor of the Kansas City Defense and he just
got paid like you were about to say, three years,
forty five million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
And which Michael Bolton are you talking Jules the singer
or the guy in office space.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
The singer? Of course? Why the same singer, because dude's
really good with the fucking brass dog guys, his sacks guy, right,
Michael Bolton right, sexophone right, mm.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Hmm, that's sounds like sacks. You should play, Bro, you
should play.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
First team All Dot for me?

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Who is it for you? I got my guy in mind.
Who's your first teamer?

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
I'm going Fred Warner, all right, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Cool with that. I mean he's the heartbeat of the
San Francisco's defense. I mean he played at twenty twenty
four with a broken ankle as well, and he's been
featured on our show as well, you know, a couple
couple of weeks ago, throughout the season, So that was
really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Are you think I was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Thinking Bobby Wagner. I mean, this guy's a legend right now.
I mean he leads that Washington Commanders defense with presence.
You know, he commands that defense. He's one of the
reasons why they had such a great year this year.
We played against someone he was, you know, on the
legion of Boom defense in Seattle, and he's just still going.

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You gotta give him credit. Bobby Wagner is my second
team All Dot Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
First team All Dot, Fred Warner, second Team All Bobby Wagner,
Washington Commanders, Brokawann Smith too, man. He that was leave
us all dudes teamer with the help of Matthew Slater.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
He special teams.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
God, alright, I asked him. Let's let's see if I
can get you to hear this. Let's see what the
Slate analysis of the teamers are.

Speaker 6 (01:19:28):
Old dudes team first team, second team old dudes. I mean,
you got you gotta put Schooler on their first team
All dude.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Dude's a dude. Man, what do you want me to
tell you?

Speaker 7 (01:19:41):
The Joker can fly out, play size, speed, quickness, hands,
want to toughness, could play with us.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Man could play with us. Then second team all dude.
That's tough because I like Jeremy Reeves in Washington.

Speaker 6 (01:20:06):
I like Bloord in Washington. But if I gotta go
second team all dude, I'm going.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
J T.

Speaker 8 (01:20:13):
Gray Saints probably been one of the most underrated players
in our league for the last five six years.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Check him out. Led the league in special teams tackles.

Speaker 9 (01:20:29):
I'm not the top end burner, just great finisher at
the ball, carrier, physical in the return game, will lay
you out and just find his way to the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
And this sucker is productive productive.

Speaker 6 (01:20:43):
I think he's got like ninety three special teams tackles
since he came in the league, most in the league
during that span, So those would be my two.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
Teamers Schooler first team, J T. Gray Second team.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
J T.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Gray that those are our first and second team. Khalif
Raymond out of Detroit. He was pretty good led the
league in punt returns this year. Also, who's our The
Cowboys returner Turpin should be up there, He's a beast.

(01:21:23):
But we get our consulting for special teams from the
special team's god, Matthew Slater, and he says Brandon School
their first team. JT. Grace second team. Wait, if j T.
Gray has the most tackles since he came in ninety three,
shouldn't he be first team? Though? Cavante Turpin one of

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my favorite returners all year long. So I think we
go as Slate. What do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Oh, well, Jules, I won't kind of leave this one
up to you because I never really bet a special team.
And the one time I was on special teams, I
was on field goal protection and I put my arm
out to block and the seria Joe Brown ran into
my arm and it snapped my wrist back and it
broke my forearm. So I wasn't really that great on
special teams, never really played it. The biggest highlight of

(01:22:17):
my career was when on special teams. Was when I
was on kickoff return my rookie year, Dan Conley.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
He got the ball because.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
He was in the middle of the back then what
was it called when you can combine to the wing guys, Yeah,
the wench. He was the middle of the wedge, but
they kicked in the ball. He got it as an
offensive lineman. He ran it up to the four yard line.
But on that play, I pancaked the defender right in
front of him when he got the ball. So that's
my biggest highlight on special teams in my career in

(01:22:46):
the NFL. So I'm going to leave this one up
to you, Jeweles. This was all you. You were an amazing
punt returner, You were a great kick returner, you were
an all around special teams guy. So Jewles, whoever you
think you got advice from Slater, you got knowledge from
him who was maybe the best special teams player of
all times in NFL history. So this one's all on you, Jewels.

(01:23:06):
But I do want to bring up the a Mindola too.
You know, he was a teamer back in the day
and twenty one point three percent of his uh you know,
snaps were special teams as well. When he was with
New England he played plenty of times. So just shout
out to him as well. Our good old friend Danny
the Dancer, Amadola.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Danny the Dancer and Mondola. He's a good he was
a really good teamer, great hands.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Not as good as you, sorry, Dola, you were better
at jewels.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Danny was very good. Danny was very good. And shout
out to Cavante Turpin that he's a monster. He had
nine hundred and four.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
The Cowboys returner, right, Yeah, I knew it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
I knew that Turpin was. I mean I remember Belichick
even saying, like the fuck would you kick to this guy?
And he also came he's an old dude guy because
he came to the long Way. He I think he
was in the USFL or something. He was like the
MVP of some water down league or whatever. So first
team Brandon Schooler, Patriot, Second team JT. Gray with the

(01:24:22):
helps of Matthew Slater.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Thank you Slater. We appreciate you. You've always been a great
teammate and you're still a great teammate, Slater, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
An honorable mention. Cavante Turpin, guy who's electric with the
ball's hand.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Also Devin Hester, one of the most electric special teamers
of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
I think it was like twenty ten or eleven. I
had a punt return average of like I don't know,
fifteen points something, and that's like, really, that's really high.
That's like eight yards higher than what like the averages
league average, and fucking it was like a record. It

(01:25:10):
was like a crazy great year. And there was one
guy that had higher than me. It was fucking Devin Hester.
And he had like a seventeen, which was like a record.
It was crazy. He had two touchdowns. He was electric.
First team, first team, first ballot, Hall of Famer man,
first time as a special teamer, right, is he first
ballot or not first ballot? Not first ballot, but he's

(01:25:33):
this special team returner. I think he's a first returner
to go in the Hall of Fame. Fucking incredible, electric,
all right, first Team All Dude leg the leg Chris
nominees Chris Boswell from Pittsburgh Steelers only offense this year.
Brandon Aubrey from Dallas multiple sixty plus yarders this year

(01:25:59):
and he played professional soccer Chase McLaughlin Tampa Bay ninety
three point eight percent of the time. He hits every time.
Jack Fox Detroit punter, which is weird. I don't think

(01:26:20):
they punted a lot, but he was a Pro Bowl punter.
Prime Sebastian Janakowski. I could smell the vodka coming off
his breath right now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Dude was an absolute unit and he was the Polish hammer.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
I remember Scottie O'Brien all day just said, this guy
loves vodka like that. All the coaches love talking about
Sebastian Janikowski being an alcoholic, and he would put him
right down the goddamn middle every fucking time for like
a long time. Adam Vinteri got snubbed from the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
He's got to be in the Hall of Fame event,
but he got snubbed from being a first timer Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
First ballot, first ballot.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
M H.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Saquon Barkley, even though he doesn't kick, but he has
really squad sick legs. Harris Buckner, I mean he's he's
a monster. I mean he's kicked. He was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
And you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
Can think about what he does off the field on
your own. This is a non judging body cast podcast.
For me, I'm going first team kick leg, first team
Leg Aubrey shout out Jerry Jones, find it found another one.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Finding someone that can finally score on multiple occasions, especially
past sixty plus yards, which is incredible. Man, they hit
a couple over sixty yards as a kicker. These kickers
are just becoming strong and just you know, more precise
as the years go on. It's funny because kickers they
go on a streak where like weeks one through seven,

(01:28:09):
every kicker hits everything, and then like week seven through fifteen,
like every team's looking for a new kicker, and.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Then like the ball hardens up, the golder gets that
ball gets a little harder to kick. We be we
got a shout out Steve Gotzkowski. Man, Oh, I love
Steve Meat Meat.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
I love Stevektowski. I mean he came through in the
clutch plenty of times for us, you know, and people don't.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Realize Steve had like the best kicking percentage until like
the last year of his career of all time, like
he was lights out. He fucked up his hip a
little and when those kickers they mess up a little something,
it fucks him up and then you know that that's
kind of where it went. But Steve was electric. He
made a lot of big kicks for us, huge he

(01:28:58):
sure did.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
He handled that pressure coming after Vinitari as well, and
like it was like, you know, Vinitaria was a huge loss,
but like it didn't feel like a huge loss. You know,
four New England because of Gostowski.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Which that's hard to say because that's how good. Adam
Vanity was. Second team All leg.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with Chris Boswell.
I mean, he was consistent for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
He was it was their only offense. Was finally at
times there was like five games where that he had
like six There was like three games, right, I swear
he had like six field goals.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
The Pittsburgh Steelers won a game this year without scoring
a touchdown. He kicked all the points for them. I
mean that was like twenty eight points exactly. You deserve
to be on the All Dudes team for doing that,
scoring all the points in the game and winning.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
All right, our last All Dude defense of guy or
person or dude is thisecurity mm hmm okay nominees Tua's
arms home security hired in response to league wide breakings.

(01:30:15):
TUA hired armed security at the house. That's an all
dude moment. Olivia Punton Employee of the Month at Joe
Burrow's house. She was there during the breaking. She was
there during the breaking. She kept everything safe. Lionel Messi's

(01:30:40):
personal security guard. Have you ever seen this guy on
the fucking sideline?

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
I love him. He's always watching like a hocke and
he's running up and down. It's like, it's freaking incredible.
Imagine having your own personal security guy like that at
all times. Guys like this, This is a beast.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
He's a beast. This is what every college football's dream is,
every college football coaches dream for. What it is it
called the standback guy or the pushback guy. Yep, the
Messi has got it all dialed in. He's got a
guy that's literally like chasing the ball. And then lastly,

(01:31:17):
Big Dom, he's pretty much goddamn mayor of Philly. He's
got unmarked cop cars, escalades, recruited Darius slay back to Philly,
and free agency. I mean, there's anything to do with security.
I saw it firsthand. Dom is your guy, So first
team all security for me, Big Dom is number one.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
I can't argue with that one.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Jules number two. I mean, we.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Gotta go with Lionel Messi's personal security guard. The guy
is always hustling, hustle, he's watching twenty four to seven,
what's going on. He's basically a security camera at all
times from Lionel Messi. So he's by far number two.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
And then honorable mention Olivia Putton. I mean, you got
to keep the enterprise of Joe Burrow. You got to
keep that enterprise going. And when those little, those little
sneaky thieves tried to rob Sir Joe Burrow's house because
he's dressing like or I Burrow, shallow May. That's what

(01:32:27):
I'm gonna call him, because he dresses like shallow May.
Joe Burrow shallow May. When someone is trying to sneak
into that house, not so fast. Olivia Putton's there to
stop it all from going down, so he can just
worry about creating the craziest amount of stats you possibly

(01:32:48):
can for a quarterback. So that's the all dude teams.
Let's let's let's go over and recap them. Our twenty
twenty five first team All Dudes d Defense Interior Jalen Carter, Edge,
Trey Hendrickson, linebackers at bond safety, Kyle Hamilton cornerback one,

(01:33:11):
Patrick's Air Tan cornerback two, Trent McDuffie, teamer, Brandon Brendan
schooler with consultants from Matthew Slater, Green Dot, Fred Warner,
leg Brandon Aubrey and security Big. And now let's go

(01:33:33):
to our twenty twenty five second team All due Defense Roberto.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
And our interior defensive Lineman's second team All Dude is
Vita Vea from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Just a monster.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
We got eds Tava, Miles Garrett.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
You can drink cava all day with Vita Villa going
back to him, Jules. And then at linebacker position, we
got the Marrio Davis, the Mario Davis that is an
honorable mention. Dante High Towers Calves, biggest calves to ever
play in the NFL. We're still wondering if they were
implanted or not. We will find out one day. At

(01:34:13):
the safety position, we got Buddha Baker. Great name, great
All Dudes name No.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
Doubt about that fucking flies too.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
At cornerback one, we got Darryl Stingley. At cornerback two,
we got Christian Gonzalez, special teamer J T. Gray with
honorable mentioned Cavante Turpin. Bill Belichick loves that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
Guy the Green Dot, I think everyone does.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Everyone does love his Speedster lethal weapon. At the Green Dot,
we got Bobby Wagner Heart and soul, the Washington Commanders
defense leg We have a kicker here and Chris Boswell
won a game just kicking all field goals for Pittsburgh
Steelers this year. And at the security position, we got

(01:35:05):
Lionel Messi security guard who just hawks down at anyone
that is eyeing down.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
Lionel Messi, don't even fucking look at him wrong, or
his security guy we don't even know the name of,
will fucking come get you if you look. If you
look at him wrong from the nosebleeds, he will fucking
find you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Mm hmm, you got that right. And honorable mention Olivia
Pontoon just keeping Joe Burrows Kasa safe. That's that's a
that's a good woman right there, that that really is.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
And that's what we got. That's our old dudes, team.
What a team. What do you guys think about the
first ever all dudes team.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
That's a great group of dudes. It's a great group
of dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
I want to hear dogs. I want to hear in
the comments section playing a dog, some whizzes. Oh, we
got studs. We definitely got some dudes, dudes and even
some freaks. Still getting open and scoring against this all defense,
rob not not.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
You know, you know, at the high rate that I
typically would, you know, versus any any defense, but verst
of all dudes, you know defense, my rate of scoring
would go down a little bit. I mean, these guys
are all dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
They it'd go down to point six exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
There we go, Jules, you got right to it. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
We'll be right back after this quick break. Well, let's
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Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
The chill is due to the week this week delicious
delicious Jules is you guys, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
That's the fans. The Chillis Dude of the Week this
week are the fans that left us questions in the
YouTube comments, Jewles, keep keeping yes, please.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
We've pulled some let's answer them. Let's answer them.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Yeah, here we go, Jewels. I'll go with the first
one from at yukon Camono. Uh, Grant needs to announce
draft pick number sixty nine. Let's make this happen. Hey,
that's why draft.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
Pick six.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
I'm not sure it was draft pick sixty nine this year, Jewels,
but this night, this guy is one of the chillest
dudes of the week because he's saying it's just silly, silly,
chill do things like I should have announced the sixty
nine draft pick, and Jewels, who has it?

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
You know who has this sixty nine?

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
The Patriots?

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Really? Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Do I didn't know that?

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
I should have you right, you need to go in
and announced the sixty ninth pick for the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
That's a good idea. I might have to do it now, Jules,
I might have to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Wow, let's do it. Let's make this happen. I'm down
to tech Stacey James right now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Yes, I'm down. I should do it. That's what day
two of the draft? Where's the draft this year?

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Oh man, that's that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
Robs the draft Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
It's a tough way to get to. Yeah, it isn't
Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
The draft Green Bay? Oh my god? What are we doing?
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
All right, Jules, this is why I should announce the
sixty ninth pick, you know, for the New England Patriots
this year. First off, our fans came up with the idea.
Our Chillis fans of the week came up with this
wonderful idea that I should be announcing this pick. So
thank you guys for that. And now it boom, a

(01:38:55):
light bulb went off. Why I should be announcing the
sixty ninth pick. Well, first off, when we're in San
Diego Jewels, when Bill made us go out to practice
with just T shirts on and no names and numbers,
well what did I do? I taped the number sixty
nine on the back of my T shirt because I
wanted to be number sixty nine, and Bill made me
take that tape off right away or else I couldn't

(01:39:17):
continue to practice. So that was one of my most
sixty nine legendary moments in my career. And on top
of it, I scored my sixty nine touchdown verse the
Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh, and Mike Reese's ESPN reporter asked
me about it, and it became a big thing right
after that game because that was my sixty nine touchdown,
you know, in my career. So that was another cool

(01:39:38):
moment that went, you know, pretty viral as well when
I was on the Patriots that had to do with
sixty nine. So Patriots, if you guys are smart Stacey
James out there, please let me announce the sixty ninth
pick of the draft this year, you guys hold that pick,
it would just be legendary, not just for myself before
all the fans out there. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
I can I can see Rabel trading the pick just
so we don't have it anymore. Yeah, just said you
don't steal the thunder. Well you'll steal the thunder at that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Hey, I'm very able. Would like that. He's bet Grock
stealing the thunder once again with the Milligan Patriots.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
Well, whatever you do, I'm joking, whatever you do.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Don't trade that pick. Don't trade it. Please, don't we
need it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Let's jump into our next question from Kevin Emery eleven
seven to seven Julian what did Bill Belichick say to
you after you won a Super Bowl MVP? And did
he treat you any different after you said you were
a rookie. When you were a rookie, he wanted you

(01:40:42):
to know who important veterans were, and I think you
were one of those important vets. Afterwards, I don't remember
Bill ever really saying Actually, I think Bill said something
like it should have been Ryan Allen or something. He
said the punter, thanks coach, Love you too. Next question

(01:41:09):
from Paul Gray six to one zero zero. I have
no idea how or why I'm watching Edelman at five am?
What are they watching? Yeah, Jules' names or dudes on? Dudes?

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
Yeah? Or is there something out there that you have
out that's on a five am show? Jules? I mean, like, no,
what is it?

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
I don't know. Maybe he's just surfing. He's just surfing
the web. Rob, what are you watching five am?

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
He must have that algorithm where he just watches you
so much, Jules, even at five am. It just pops
up on his phone around his TV or whatever he's
watching on which it which is cool. Props to him
watching the squirrel at five am? And what do I
watch five am? I watched nothing at five am. Man,
if I'm up at five am, I'm actually kind of
pissed at myself for even being up, so I'm always

(01:42:07):
trying to go back to sleep. I listened to meditation
music actually at that time if I'm trying to, you know,
get myself back to sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
When I was a kid, I used to get up
so early on Saturdays to watch the Saturday Morning cartoons.
And before the Saturday Morning cartoons, if you were there
like six or five, it was infomercials. And so I
remember I used to watch the infomercial for Macintosh. They

(01:42:35):
used to They were trying to sell email for the
first time ever. Like people are like, wait, you could
send a letter to someone in seconds in another country, right,
Like what the fuck is this thing? And like it
was like going through just like the work friendliness of
like the Mac, the first Mac, Like oh look, if

(01:42:56):
you double click right here, you can get into your email.
I'm like, what the fuck is I watch that infomercial
maybe twenty times is mac when I was a kid.
So shout out to infomercials. Let's get back to our
questions from the fans. Rob this one's you all right?

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
From at Maulbyn Real Deep. Thanks for the fun show.
It's the past few months y'all. Hey at Mulbyn Real Deep.
Thank you for listening, thank you for tuning in, thank
you for being a fan. We do it for you.
We do it for all you guys out there that
tune into us. And this sip right here for being

(01:43:40):
one of the chillest Jews of the week. The sip
is for you. Thank you to our fans.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
Jules, He's got a couple ideas for us on the
other episode. For other episodes, number one Lady Dudes Sue Bird,
Caitlin Clark, et cetera. One thousand lady dudes, because dudes

(01:44:07):
not just a not a guy, A dude is everything.
And then number two from my Mob and Real Deep
Dudes in other sports, Lewis Hamilton, Kobe Tiger, et cetera.
Enjoy the break, y'all, have a good time with the kiddos.

(01:44:27):
Jewels that's Mob and Deep.

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
Sor right, jeweles. I wasn't paying too much attention there
because Ralphie was yelling at me because he's been quiet
for the last two hours, letting me podcast with you.
He's been laying there, but now it's his time to
shine and he's yelling at me. So I think those
are great ideas to have lady dudes and also dudes
in other sports.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
Dudes, because of Ralphie, dog.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
Dudes would be really cool. We can turn on the
dog channel, check them out. Check what three we want
to talk about? Uh? What what our favorite dog is?
What our favorite tricks are that these dogs are doing.
So that's a great idea. Man, we gotta eventually do it.
We will get there possibly, but you know, we'll take
a sip to that again. Jules, cheer, cheers, lady dudes

(01:45:12):
and dudes and other sports right now.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
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(01:45:39):
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Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
I was feeling a little sweaty this episode. I'm not
really sure why, but after I sit my cors Light
and drank a little bit of it and the show,
I started feeling better. I started feeling loose, I chilled
chilled out a little bit. So I'm gonna start sipping
cors Light, you know, throughout the whole entire show from
here on now. And I feel like I could perform
better because I'm more lack some more chills. So that

(01:46:02):
that's that's myself scout right there.

Speaker 1 (01:46:04):
You were sweaty. I almost get done watching Cops.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
I was sweating a little bit. I got a workout
done earlier, and I'm kind of like inflamed from it
a little bit because I, like I said, I'm getting
back into it, you know, a routine. I was just like,
I like a couple of hot flashes. But I'm telling you,
ever since I took a sip of this something feeling great.

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