Dudes on Fantasy Football

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If I had some bad games, man, ooh, if you
looked at your Twitter mentions, ooh, people were coming at you, man,
fans were coming at you. And then that's when you
like you going defense mode and you're like, yo, I'm
just a team player. I don't care that. You know,
I didn't have any catchers we won the game, like
you think I really care about my catchers when when
we won the game. That's what it's all about. But
then if you have a great fantasy day, you know

(00:20):
you're like, I did it for my fans. I did
it for you guys. I did it for your fantasy roster.
So you guys always play the game as well.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman, I'm Rob Gronkowski,
and this is the show where your favorite dudes get
to talk about their favorite dude.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's Fantasy Playoff Football time, ladies and gentlemen. So we're
talking about some fantasy legends who are some of the
best fantasy players of all time. First, a versatile back
from an NFL family.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
This guy like he was born into this a dude
that only went by his initials.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's like Gronk going by Gronkowski.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
That means you have to be a legend. You have
to be a legend to have a nickname. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
We get into another dude that rewrote the record books
with not just one team, but two teams.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
He was a pivotal part of their past game. He's
great in the run game, and he didn't get hurt.
He was healthy his whole career.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
And we wrap it up by drafting our all time
Fantasy team, all time, all time. Baby, All let's go,
let's go, let's go, let's play ball.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to
Dudes on Dudes, and we have a very special episode today.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yes we do.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, we're gonna go over because it's it's getting to
that time of year fantasy playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
And this is reality that we have going on today, Jewels.
So I know everyone out there has this fantasy mind
of what goes on in the fantasy world of football,
but this is reality and we're going to be talking
about the biggest and baddest fantasy players that have ever
played the game of football.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's fantasy themed. We'll go over like like horses, guys
that if they played in this generation guys that do
play in this generation, guys that played in older generations
that would just fucking light up the scoreboard. You know,
It's been kind of fun because, you know, since we've retired,
we've been in a fantasy team together.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
And it's actually my first fantasy league I've ever joined
in my life.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Jules, Yeah, it's we have the Nuthouse Fantasy League and
let's go over.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I did and before someone corrects me, I was on air.
I did a fantasy draft. I just did not follow
up and played in the actual league. It was just
a draft to give an example to all the fans
out there on how to draft and who to draft
and what guys are out there. So it's kind of
explaining the game. But this is truly the first league
that I participated in in my whole entire life many

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so this is really cool.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
All right, So Rob, Rob, so we actually play each other,
this we do?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
All right, you're going down, boy, You're going down. Guess
what my record is right now?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
What one in twelve?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Motherfucker? I guess what's gonna be after this week?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
What two and twelve? Motherfucker? So Rob's I like your
team name.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I'm gonna start saying mother trucker instead of motherfucker. So
mother trucker, Rob, You're going down mother trucker.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Rob. Did you even name your team? Talking? Rob? Did
you name the team my opponent?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Are you talking?

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I'm just saying in my head Rob's Rad Team.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, Rob's Rad Team is one in twelve.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
One and twelve. No, I'm not doing any better.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I actually didn't name my team. I'll give you my
whole entell youre strategy how I named the team, how
I picked my team as well. Once you asked that question.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
What was your strategy of making this team?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
All right? Well you asked, Well, my strategy was totally
miss out on the zoom call while everyone was picking.
So I was automatically getting my team drafted by the
computer system that Yahoo pres auto draft, so it was
auto draft, and I was just getting the top available
on the board every single time I was up to draft.
And that's how you do it. You're guaranteed the top

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player that's available when you auto drafts. So I don't
see why people would draft.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well, how's that done?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
This is just kept killing it, killing it. If you better,
you know, against me, every week, you would win Rob's
Rad team is radically shitty.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I've been struggling too. Honestly, my fantasy team name is, uh,
Ernest does Football. I used to like those Earnest movies,
Ernest Scared Straight, Ernest does Halloween.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
The only thing I know that's close to Ernest is
Ernie Adams.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Well, my old one used to be Ernie Adams Family.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
And I can tell you this, if you got any
earned the name, because Ernie Adams is the smartest, bestest
genius of all times in the football world. So that
means if you got Ernest in your fantasy name, you
should be on thefeeded. That's disrespectful to the Ernie I know.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
And I've kind of tried on this, but my guys
just haven't been working. I mean, I had Jordan Love Metcalf.
I did a trade for Metcalf. I had no running
back at the beginning of season, so I had to
I had to make this crazy trade to get Josh Jacobs.
Did have sa Quan was holding my team together. But
then you know, I've been scrapping at receiver with Jalen Reed.
He's been doing well. Hockinson, you know I picked him

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up after you know he's been hurt and he's been
gradually getting better. But uh, my team, I'll have a
guy that performs and then one week guy was and
it's tough. You know, I'm trying to put my players
in the best position to win, but you know, Rob,
it's been tough. But I'm gonna take your team down
this week because my whole team is getting healthy and
I can't even take I can't take the credit. I

(05:45):
gotta take the credit of these guys right now. Wow,
I'm there eating.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Ever you better take me down because I have someone
starting this week and they don't even have a game.
They're on bye week.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Well just at Jamal Williams had.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Jamal Williams, So that's actually what happened. That's I've actually haven't.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Got to make a change.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I have I haven't looked at my team, and we'll
make a fucking change. This is why I'm one in twelve.
First off, my projecting ranking, my projecting score this week
is sixty six points and usually the average is about
one hundred to one twenty. And that's just how many
guys I've been starting that actually weren't even playing that week.
So that's terrible. First off, and I kind of haven't

(06:26):
looked at my fantasy team in about six to seven weeks.
You just kind of forgot about it. But this is
why I kind of just got pissed at fantasy.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Is that.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Shut up, Jewels. I'm talking, okay about my fantasy team.
It's not about your fantasy team. I'm talking about your
need the most pross I can get with my fantasy team,
because no one's been having any talk about him because
I've been so terrible. But I dropped Joe Mixon this
year because he was on a bye week. No, he
wasn't on a bye he got hurt for a little bit,
and then all my other running backs were on a

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bye week, so I had to drop someone.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
So I was like, all, I'll drop Joe making real quick.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
So I drop him, I get another, I get another
pretty decent running back. Then I forget I dropped Joe Mixon.
And then Joe Mixon's going off two three weeks later,
he was like what like two touchdowns versus Patriots. When
I was watching that game, I'm like, oh, yeah, I know,
I got Joe Mixon on my fantasy team. Let me
go check how I'm doing because I kind of forgot.
And then I go and look and Joe Mixon is

(07:24):
on the other team that I'm playing, and I'm like what,
I'm like, what the f how was he on that team?
I forgot I dropped him. And then Kyler beat me
because Joe Mixon went off that game for the versus
the Patriots, and he beat me by one point because
of Joe Mixon.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
And then since then I haven't looked at my team.
Well it was a week before I lost by one point. See,
I'm not a fantasy guy. I'm the reality guy. Man,
I get it done in real life. That's a bad beat,
you know. I had a bad beat with us going
against Sam. First off, I dropped Mike Evans. I thought
his hamstring was a lot worse than it is, and
I fully fucked that up. And once again Kyler, who's

(08:04):
a little b up, just like how I fucked up.
He's a waiver wire guy. Yeah, he just sits there
in his do.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
We even work? I can't believe does this guy work?
I leave him for two weeks.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
He's not joining the league next year.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I know we're gonna get him out. I'm gonna cash
him out. So I had a bad beat. I was playing, Uh,
I was playing Sam, and my team was dominating. Saquan
had his big day, and and there's I had Sam
all right, what's his name? Hubert on Hubert on the
Panthers Chewba Hubbard, I had chubbed Chewba Hubbard, and I

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I had like sixteen points to Spare and Lamar and
and Sam had Lamar Jackson only left or something, and like,
I win with sixteen points, and then that Lamar had
that late run thing, uh, the late run touchdown and
with in garbage time he goes ends up getting hell
of points for that, and then Hubert fumbles, so he

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gets one point more than me because I got the
three point deduction from it. I'm like, what the fuck
is such a bad beat beat? I can't even make
it into playoffs. I don't think it's okay.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Now, at least you'll have a win this week.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, I'm hoping, you know, I'm hoping.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I got a question, how often do fans bring up
fantasy football to you, Jules when you were playing, dude,
Because we were in the era when the like fantasy
football started getting like huge, like huge hush. I'm talking
like it was taking football to a whole other level.
The ladies were starting to get involved into football as well,
fantasy football, kids, parents, everyone. Football was just becoming the

(09:41):
nature of everyone's life because of fantasy football, and it
started blowing up right when we started blowing up in
the league as well. So how often that people bring
it up to you?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Anytime I wasn't in a in Massachusetts and I went
to a different city, so you know, you go to
like Miami or you go somewhere, everyone always say many
head you on PPR, thanks man, thanks help me out
man this year. So like you, I would hear it
all the time, like, but it always be a PPR
thing because I was a high catch guy, so that's
what I found out about that.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
So I would hear, what can you explain what PPR means?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Points per game, points per reception? Don't even know, you know,
still getting used to this fantasy thing? What about you? Rob?
You had to hear it all the time all the time.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
JE was especially after my second year in the league
when I was just winning fantasy rosters left and right, baby,
and people were making big money off of me, and
my Venmo account was freaking fill up because people were like,
I won my Fantasy league. I think you deserve ten dollars.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Here you go, and if you really give out your
Venmo account, no.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Just people would say like think it's me, which it
was me, and they would just send it over to
me as well, and you're no iDEMO account would just
be stacking up a little bit. But I'm sure how
many fake Rob Gronkowski vmo accounts out there. We're getting
donations to it as well. So whoever was running the
fake ones, God bless you don't.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Have Venmo at that time in my life.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
There it was something man Beno was around in twenty twelve,
like that's when it just started as well. So I
probably got like an extra thousand dollars in my account
just from random people sending me ten dollars. You won
me my fantasy league, even though it's a there's ten
guys or eight guys on the roster and it takes
a whole team to win your fantasy But I appreciate it.

(11:22):
But I was dominating. But also if I had some
bad games, man, oh if you looked at your Twitter mentions, oh,
people were coming at you, man, Fans were coming at you.
And then that's when you like you go in defense
mode and you're like, yo, I'm just a team player.
I don't care that you know, I didn't have any catchers.
We won the game, Like you think I really care
about my catches when when we won the game. That's
what it's all about. But then if you have a

(11:42):
great fantasy day, you know, you're like, I did it
for my fans. I did it for you guys. I
did it for your fantasy roster. So you guys always
play the game as well.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Which which one you didn't take? Dude, Rob, you must
have had like crazy fit. What was Rob's regular seat?
What's best fantasy year? Well, it's look at it.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I mean I know him back of my mind, Bro,
I mean it was it.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Had to be too. The twenty eleven season.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
It was the twenty eleven season when I broke all
the tight end records. I was breaking record ninety receptions.
I led the league in touchdown receptions that year as well.
I led the league in fantasy points. So whoo, I
was on fire. Baby. That was a breakout year for
me in real life and fantasy life. Baby. I had
let me think, Oh, I think I had three hundred
and thirty point nine points that year.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
That's a lot of is that right. That's a massive
amount of points. Three thirties, nine ninety receptions, thirteen hundred yards,
thirteen twenty seven, seventeen touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
But actually it was eighteen touchdowns because one of my touchdowns,
I was lined up in the backfield because I can
do it all, you know, on the football field, and
I accidentally bubbled too much, so I was behind Brady,
so Brady threw it. I remember that I caught it
and I ran it in actually for the touchdown, and
thirteen touchdowns was held for the most ever touchdowns by
a tight end by Vernon Davis. I had thirteen at

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the moment that was my fourteenth touchdown. The whole crowd
was going crazy. I got a standing ovation my second
year in the league. I'm just twenty two years old.
Matt Light's busting my ball. Sit down, young buck. You
know you're not that great, you know which, I love
Matt Light, which was great. And then later that game
I got the whole standing ovation for beating the most
touchdowns ever by a tight end in the history. And

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then later that game, I mean later that day, it
got ruled that it was a run r so the
record went back down, so I was only tied with
Vernon Davis at thirteen tight ends. So I actually had
one rushing touchdown that year as well, So I had
eighteen total touchdowns. Get that right, man, it's fantasy. The
hell rushing and receiving touchdowns count, So.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
That's three hundred and thirty six if it's rushing.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
No, I'm sure the rushing touchdown included. It was concluded
with the point total. I would say it was about
three yards. It was versus Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, a three
touchdown game that game. Actually I had a tree sption
and one one rushing touchdown, So I'm one for one
of my career. Russia's jewels. I know you've had plenty
of Russias, plenty of reverses behind the backfield, and how

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many touchdowns you have Russian in your career?

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I would say my best fantasy I don't know my
Russian touchdowns. You don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I thought you would know your stats about it, your jewels.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I don't know my house. I really don't know my stats. Well,
it's your best fantasy year.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Well, I have it right in front of me, so
it says twenty nineteen, one hundred and fifty zero point
four total PPR points, hundred receptions, eleven hundred and seventeen yards,
and six touchdowns. All right, is that a lot of points?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
So so you had ten more receptions than me and
only half the amount of points.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Why is that, Jewels? Because you say, is that you
score touchdowns? I convert third downs.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
And that's why we're a team, and that's why we're
winners because we knew our role, and we all did
our role, and we all shut up and we didn't complain.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Oh I complained sometimes. I know it sounded good.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
It sounded good, okay, And I complain with I didn't
throw me the ball in the red zone and it
went to someone else. I was like, Tom, this is
where I shine brother in the red zone, Like, yeah,
don't throw it to me in the open field. I'm
never gonna complain that. I never complained ever at a
time if we were with like within like the twenties.
But when we got to the red zone and I
was open and I felt like he could have thrown

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me the ball, Tom, what I would get back to
I was open, I was open, Trump, and he'd be
oh shit, Like I never seen Greg mad Well when
you get to the red zone, you don't throw it
to me. I'm gonna get mad brother.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
But the Hulk. That's when Bruce Banner when he gets in,
when he gets up into that that that twenty and
in your Rod turns in the Hulk. Hey, we got
to start a points per first down league. Hold on WEVL.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
I got one more story real quick too, about fantasy
football because it was becoming big. So we were at
Mohegan Sun. I'm not sure if you're on the trip
or not. It was it was about to be before
the playoffs. It was actually, yeah, I think it was
my second year, and uh, some chick comes up to me.
She's like, oh my god, like you know, like it
was just you know, as we're young, so it was

(16:06):
the coolest thing. She's like, oh my god, you're on
my fantasy team. And I looked at her in front
of everyone, and I go, you want me to make
your fantasy a reality?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
And I said it, you know, in my ways at
twenty two years old. I was tipsy and she's like, yeah,
I do. And I had the whole room laughing, you know,
and then from there nothing actually happened. I just just
sounded really good to tell that story. But and then
I didn't you know me, I I just started dancing
too hard that I danced myself home and nothing went

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on from there.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
It's yeah, but it worked. Was it a worked? That's
it worked.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
That pickup line worked, and that's all I cared about.
That's when I knew I scored. I was. I already
hit a home run. The pickup line worked. Everyone laughed
about it, so I was good. I didn't need to
do anything from there.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Oh my god. Yeah, classic. Well, let's jump in. Let's
jump in our first, our first fantasy dude. Guy that
kills it in fantasy?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
He sure does.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Should we start with the AI reading, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
This synopsis.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
The sky we got all right?

Speaker 1 (17:13):
This dude stands at five foot eleven inches and weighing
two hundred ten pounds jewels.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
What are you so?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
That just puts in the perspective. This guy is beefy,
He's thick. He's a versatile running back for the San
Francisco forty nine ers, but he was drafted by the
Carolina Panthers with an eighth overall pick in two thy seventeen.
Known for his dual threat capabilities, He excels as both
a runner and receiver, becoming one of three players to

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record a thousand rushing and a thousand receiving yards in
the same NFL season. Jewels, can you name the other
two players that did that? I'm just questioning right now.
A thousand yard receiving in a thousand yards rushing go?
Only three players in history? This guy is one of them.
Named the other two Marshall fulk Yes? And then.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Who is the other one?

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Come on, you know who he is?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Roger Craig ding ding Ding.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
We have a winner, baby, let's go all right. He
was named the twenty twenty three NFL Offensive Player of
the Year and has been a key figure in the
forty nine ers offense.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
He's the only figure in that offense right well, I.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Mean, actually he's really not in the offense right now.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Right now, he's not.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I mean it kind of sucks. It's great when he's in,
you know, in the lineup. Yeah, he's not right now.
So it's kind of crapp before all the San Francisco
forty nine Ers fans. He's originally from Castle Rock, Colorado. Hey,
that's what makes him so strong.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
He's a rock. He's a rock. Yeah, and he's probably
high altitude. Up altitude, dude, Actually.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
The high altitude. Everyone that I know that train in
the high altitude, they're absolute animals and never get tired.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Thin blood.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I'm jealous.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Oxygen up there.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I'm gonna go train.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Hard. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I never went to the Montana Trips. All right back
to the synopsis. He played college football at Stanford where
he won. Actually, no, where he was a Heisman Trophy finalist.
Guess who beat him that year?

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
No, Dereck Henry, Derek Henry. Yes, he is a perennial
first overall draft pick in fantasy football, amassing four hundred
and seventy one point two points in a single Fantasy
PPR season, second most of all time. Julian, Who are
we talking about? Christian McCaffrey, absolute freak show on the field,

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can do it all. Thousand yard reception season, thousand yard
Russian season only been two other times. One of the
other guys, possibly we should be talking about if he
had a thousand yard receiving yards as well in thousand Russians.
But we'll get to it. We'll see who else we
have later on. But this guy right here absolute savage

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when the ball is in his hands. What I really
love about is that he kind of creates his own
holes because he's so good at cutting. That's what makes
him stand out from any other player, any other running
back that's you know in the game right now or
was in the game, and that our legends, because Christian
McCaffrey's on his way to be a legend if he
can just stay healthy and keep producing the way that

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he's producing. But he just can cut so quick, and
he's so elusive with the cut and makes it look
so harmless and so easy that kind of opens up
holes for him. And I actually talked about it on
Fox and that's what I said about him. I was like, hey,
look at him go when he came back this year
for a couple of the games. When he cuts, he
opens up and draws a lane and he goes right

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through the hole because of what he's doing. And then
how he long after was like, really, he's really doing
that actually, And we looked at some film and he
would be going this way and the way that he
cut over to the left, there was all of a
sudden a lane because of the way that he cut
in the way that the defenders were moving, and just
how freaking gravity works when someone's going or what's it called,

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when you're in motion going that way, and then inertia, inertiae, inertia,
and then it would just cause him to have him
own hole and he would just burst right through that
hole then, because he just has so much explosiveness and
I believe that's what makes him such a great running
back is that he can create his own lane.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I mean that explosiveness comes from his grandpa. Grandpa was
like an Olympic sprinter. His mom's played at Stanford soccer player.
Dad's Ed McCaffrey. I mean, I mean, how many years
did Ad McCaffrey play in the OD I think he
played twelve years in the league, won three Super Bowls,
one with the Niners, two with the the Broncos. I

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used to love Ed McCaffrey. Used to cut out his
his shoes. You know, he was like a grinder receiver
and this guy like he was born into this. You know,
he's got the gene makeup, which is crazy because his
other brothers that played in the league. I think he
has one right now with the Commanders. Then receiver, Yeah, yeah,
he had another one as well. That's now they I

(22:01):
think they're like taller like ed and Christians, like just
a ship brick house, like a ball of muscle, just
five foot. Do you see him, he's like offseason training
and stuff. He does all like the track workouts and
you see his explosive his explosiveness and his movement and
like he works all that shit and he just looks

(22:22):
like a sprinter. He does, but doesn't play like a sprinter.
He plays. He's an elite football player because he has
like you were saying, he's got great vision. You know,
he can recognize over pursuit, put his foot in the ground,
cut back, and then he has the explosiveness to cut
through the traffic. He's also great out of the backfield.
We always talk about how good he is as a receiver.

(22:43):
I mean, and he's pretty much the focal point to
the San Francisco forty nine ers. They go off of
him because of his versatility, because of his effectiveness in
the run game, Like he's really great at that. But
you can also line him up anywhere, so you could
play the personal personnel game. His defense and like he's
he's what makes him go. It's been it's been tragedy,

(23:04):
you know, tragic to see his year this year with this,
with the with his injuries and the Achilles and and
all that, and and and it's hurt the San Francisco
forty nine ers tremendously.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
And then also talking about his family and just how
legendary of athletes, his whole entire family is. His mom
also played at the University of Stanford and played soccer there,
and that's probably what led him to go to the
University of Stanford as well. And more guy guy, Yeah,
I was just gonna say that guy just doesn't have
athletic ability. Obviously, he's smart as well. I mean, I
think Stanford's the Harvard of the West Coast, isn't that correct? Yeah,

(23:38):
That's what I've heard from others. I mean, I'm an
East Coaster, so I on beautiful school Harvard. I grew
up right there, and but I only learned about Stanford
once I got into the Pac ten when I went
to the University of Arizona. But Stanford was a school
I would never be going to Jewels. Same with Harvard.
I think that's bullshit. But I mean I think he could.
I could if I really tried. But I wasn't really

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I didn't really have school smarts. There's difference between school
smarts and street smarts.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Jewels.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, I didn't really care to know that. I knew
the whole entire dictionary or history book, like it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Just my forte. But you just because you didn't care
about it, that's right, good point if you cared about that.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
In the Stanford, I've.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Seen you practice.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
You appreciate you. You studied pretty hoky Man Well.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Coming in is Robo come with his little notepad and
she had look at his voice apps. He's been taking
notes for the guys that were doing Like when you
care about something, you work hard. He's had some crazy, crazy,
crazy games. He was like the first player to go
run for a touchdown, throw for a touchdown, and catch

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a touchdown since LT did it, which is crazy. Uh,
he's just mister versatile.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I mean he had the third most scrimmage yards in
a single season in NFL history. I mean the fantasy
points this guy was throwing up. He was winning fantasy
games for individuals, you know, just by himself.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
A four to seventy. You know, in comparison to you,
you had a four thirty or do you have a
three thirty.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I mean it's the second best season of all time
that he had, you know when he went you know,
for all those yards. What was it last year in
San Francisco? That year it was the second best fantasy
season in all of football after LT after his year
in two thousand and six. I mean, this guy is
like you said, he has great vision. He's super strong,
so it's hard to take him down just one on one.

(25:28):
I mean, a defensive tackle can take him down one
on one, but when a linebacker a safety comes at him,
he can make him miss very easily. And also they
just bounce right off of him too, if he has
his balance on if he's not, you know, all coming
off of a you know, one foot step or somewhere
getting hit, So it's very hard to tackle him. Great
receiving back as well. I mean, like I said, he
was strong, and no one can take him down one

(25:49):
on one. A defensive tackle could, but he'd probably make
a defect defensive tackle miss if they were coming after
him solid after the contact. Obviously, that's what makes him strong.
You know, he's a strong player. There's what makes makes
that elite, you know, and he's a grinder, no doubt
about that. Loves to work out, he loves to have that. Yeah,
the offseason workouts he's been doing.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
It looks like a god.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
And he's just he makes sudden movements as well, that
sudden step, very decisive. That's what makes you a great
running back. That's what makes you great going through the holes.
And that's just what makes you a great football player,
is just being sudden and decisive, and that's what he is.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Rob Yeah. So what if Brian Daball was like your babysitter,
Brian Daboll, Yeah, he was my babysitter. He was my
coach for three years. We babysat me every freaking meeting.
And what if he was your babysitter when you were
like eleven or twelve, how much smarter of a football
player you think he'd be?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Coould I be a genius because Brian Dabele was a
genius as well as engraving football into your body and
love talking football. I would have been the smartest player
probably in history if I had Brian Dabele as my
babysitter growing up.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
What if Kyle Shanahan was your babysitter, he'd probably be
Christian McCaffrey smart.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
That is why. So Brian Dable babysitting me when if
I was growing up, is like, that's what I'm Kyle
Shanahan was, yeah, freaking CMC's babysitter growing up as a kid.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Well, because you know, Ed McCaffrey played for the Broncos,
won two Super Bowls with them, Mike Shanahan coach son,
Kyle Shanahan ball boy, probably hanging around with all the
athletes and stuff. That's crazy, that is. I mean, so
he's got football in his blood. I mean, he's got
specimen in his blood. He's got football in his blood.
I mean he he's had the hype his whole life

(27:37):
and he's always he's always surpassed the hype. Also, you know,
like it's not just him's he had. He has his
brother who plays for the Commanders. What's his name. He's
got Luke. He's got Luke McCaffrey that plays with the Commanders.
I mean, how cool is it to have a brother
in the National Football League? But you know, you were
the Christian one Christian type brother because you know, and

(27:59):
then you know the because I was the baller. Well
there's there's superstars and then there's NFL players. Yes, you know,
how do you think that your younger brother feels?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Actually, I love my younger brother, he's great, But.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Like do they always like, but what do they think about?
Like you're the gronk, You're literally there's literally like little
my daughter knows you as the gronk, and like you're
the youngest brother, Like, how how does that? Well, first off,
you're the superstar brother. How do you treat the younger boy?

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well, first off, it wasn't even about that. It was
just super cool to even have a brother in the league.
And I actually had three brothers in the league, and
Chris with all my older brothers, and I played with
Dan in New England for like a couple of games
during that second year that I that I had the
fantasy year as well, my best fantasy football season ever
and actually actually best fantasy football season ever by a

(28:50):
tight end as well. So my brother Dan played with
us for a little bit. And then Chris actually played
full back. He played for the Broncos, the Chargers, and
also the Cowboys and Colts. You know, he played three
and a half years. No, he was not on practice squad.
So that's the only one I didn't play with, the
Glenn who's younger than me, four years younger than me.
He was on the practice squad for US for one year.

(29:13):
He started on the Bills, actually got cut at the
beginning of the year. I think after the first or
second game that we picked him up on the practice squad.
And he was a kind of an all purpose h back.
You know, he can play full back, he go go
out in the slot, you know position, and he was
a great, you know, practice squad player for US and
was actually ready at any time to get called up.
But he was on the practice squad that year that

(29:35):
we beat the Atlanta Falcons in the Super Bowl. So
he my younger, youngest brother, has a ring. But dude,
let me tell you, it was the coolest experience having
my brothers on the team, and not just even having
them on the team, just to have them in the NFL. Man,
it just makes you that much bigger of a fan
of the NFL because you're just paying so much attention
and detail to what your brother's doing because you want

(29:56):
him to be successful, you want him to have success,
and you're gonna into him because it just makes it
that much more special to know that you know that
person and you just don't know him. It's your fricking brother,
it's your family member. So super cool man, it's the best.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Do you remember do you remember, like when you guys
were kids dreaming about being in the NFL, and then
do you remember a specific time. I wonder if they
think about that as well. You know what I mean,
because there's a time when you guys are all playing
football in the backyard where you know, there's no rules,
you're just tackling each other, but you're like, you did
you guys have that one.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Hundred percent to we always dreamed about making it to
the NFL, and actually in the backyard, you were never
like your own person. You know, you're never yourself. You're
always that guy that you looked up to. So I
loved Eric Moles bro so like Eric Moles wide receiver,
Buffalo Bills. So like every time I split out, why,
like in the backyard, like Eric Moles coming at you, baby,

(30:50):
I'm about to score. And then I catch you up,
big Eric Moles, Baby, I'm Eric Moles here, I come
for you. You know, you're never yourself. You know when
growing up as a kid, you're all is your hero,
which was always cool.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I mean, you guys are kind of the same. You
had an Olympic You had an Olympic grandfather that was
like a bike bike.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
He was a bike bicyclist.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
He's right here, yeah, oh where. So he actually to
speaking about it because the Olympics were one hundred years
ago in Paris when he actually participated in that cycling,
you know year in the Olympics, and that was one
hundred years ago. Because the Olympics were in Paris again
this year, twenty twenty four, so it became a big
story that my great grandfather was in the Olympics in

(31:33):
nineteen twenty four as a cyclist. He became and he
became he and he ended up in forty fifth place actually,
and now I found out why because the French cheated.
They made him change his bike. They said his bike
wasn't legal in nineteen twenty four, the bike he's been
training on, the bike he's been riding with. They made

(31:55):
him switch out his bike in the French gave him
a bike to ride on teen twenty four that he's
never ridden on before in his life, or else he
would have gotten freaking first place. They knew this world
could not handle the Gronkowski name becoming that big time
in nineteen twenty four. So therefore the French he thorned
him and gave him that wasn't working. I swear tires

(32:19):
were flat in French, so the tires were flash but yeah, yeah,
we go way back, just like the McCaffrey family. Wow wow,
so what is McCaffrey jewels? Come on now, what, come on?
We've let's categorize.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Him being around the Broncos organization as a kid. Must
You got the picture with Shannon Sharp, Uncle Shannon, I
mean he had that had to be so cool.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I mean it was just in CMC's DNA, just growing up,
just a culture that was around him as well as family.
His dad was in the NFL. Then you know Christian
sitting on Shannon Sharp's lap. I mean he just saw
it growing up, He saw what it took. And that's
when Christian McCaffrey kind of knew he was gonna make
it to the NFL because he was already so much

(33:01):
better than you know, everyone as well. And at seven
years old, what did he do again? That just kind
of just blew up. Now that that's always talked about
seven years old? Seven years old?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Did what do you do?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
He freaking scored a touchdown in the Mascot game, in
the Mascot game with the little kid as a little kid,
he already knew he was going pro. He's around all
the pro players already. Yeah, he's dominating on the field
as just a pop warner.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
He scored a touchdown on these guys. Yes, and he
pulled out a look at little come on, what do
you do? Come on, Jules? You know what? He pulled
the sharpie out and signed it.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
The he did the too before t O did the
t O.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
No, it is this, it's probably it's probably t O
did it. And then he did it.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
No, he did it.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
It was what year is this?

Speaker 1 (33:48):
And three t O did it like way after two thousand?
Way oh so he did the he did the too.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
After to O.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
But all right, I mean the dude that is aeven
year old kid.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
He still runs the same.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
You know what that makes you? Makes you a beast?

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Does anyone have that ball? Does anyone have to sign ball?

Speaker 1 (34:08):
That was a quick signature though, and then he just
toss it into the stands.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Wow, he was a He's bred to do it. He
was bred to do it, all right, all right, all right?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
So what kind of dude is Christian McCaffrey. I mean,
after watching that clip as a seven year old kid,
I kind of already know what he is. Man, There's
no doubt about.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
It in my mind and his blood. He's gotten a pedigree,
Heisman finalist, freaking old time fantasy guy top two. I mean,
he was supposed to do what he's doing. He's a
fucking stud. He is a stud.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Only a stud whips out that marker at seven years old,
seven years old, sign football and just tosses it into the.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Stands confidence though. You see the confidence of the.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Kid knowing you're gonna go pro.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
He didn't. He wasn't. He wasn't John. He was like
very professional of him. He was a professional freaking to
celebrate toss on three? What is he won? Two to three?
All right, we'll be right back after this quick break.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Let's get don't get onto our next guy.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
The synopsis of what is a I gotta say about him?

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Let me tell you, Julian, let me tell you something.
We've kind of already brought up his name once or twice,
just to give you a clue. Who is for all
you wonderful fans out there that want to take a guess,
a little trivia and who is next? But this dude
is a former NFL running back who stood at five
foot ten inches and weighed two hundred and fifteen pounds

(35:38):
stick to He played for the San Diego Chargers from
two thousand and one to two thousand and nine and
the New York Jets from twenty ten to twenty eleven.
He was born in rose Bud.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Texas, Rosebud, Texas, where.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
He attended Texas Christian.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
UNIVERSITYU is King the Frog, you see you.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
He was selected by the San Diego Chargers with the
fifth overall pick in two thousand and one. He's running
back get dreaded high. Back then, Back then they were man.
Oh back then, the running back was the jewel position.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Man.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Everyone wanted to be a running back. It was the
golden charm boy to be a running back.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Golden boy.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
I don't but I like.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Lucky charms, but the golden lucky charms, Lucky, the Irish
lucky charms. He noably set the record for most touchdowns
in a single season with thirty one and two thousand
thirty one touchdowns. Yes, that's a lot. That's about two
per game. That's about one point nine to five touchdowns
per game. There's sixteen games, sixteen times two is thirty

(36:45):
two touchdowns. But then he didn't have thirty two at
thirty one, so it was kind of like he had
one point nine touchdowns a game. So what happened is
one game he only scored one. The same season in
which he was named the league MVP was in two
thousand thirty one touchdowns. He was inducted into the Pro
Football Hall of Fame in twenty seventeen, and throughout his

(37:06):
career he was a highly sought after player and fantasy leagues.
He holds the record for points in a single Fantasy
PPR season with four hundred and eighty one points. Julian,
who are we talking about ladies and gentlemen?

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Ladanian Thomason?

Speaker 1 (37:24):
And what do you think of when you hear of
the name the legend Ladanian Tomlinson?

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Jules, what do I think of? I think of?

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Hold on, let me answer this question. I think of
the San Diego Chargers and why they're still not in
San Diego and why they are in Los Angeles. Sharing
a stadium with the freaking whatever the other team with
the Rams when they can be in San Diego.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Stale.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Because when I think of LT, I think of San
Diego and how he put that city on the map.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Dude, he really did. I think of just swag Swaggy.
I think of his darkvisor. I remember as a little
kid doing the touchdown dance like he's he scored so
many touchdowns. It just seemed like he scored two three
touchdowns every game, like and he literally did. Uh if

(38:12):
everyone was an LT fan.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
I mean, how could you not be an LT fan?
I mean, he was so elusive on the field like
he he he was a guy that made you jump
off of your seat even if you weren't a San
Diego Chargers fan, even if your team was facing his team,
it didn't matter. You appreciated who LT was out on
the football field. And what's so great about him is

(38:34):
that he was so good in the passing game as well.
He never had a thousand yard rushing season in a
thousand receiving you know season, but like you said, he
was super low key in that and he had these
two routes that kind of made him the player that
he was in the receiving game. Yeah, you know, we
all know as him as the rusher and how he
how he made everyone mass. He had a solid, solid,

(38:56):
stiff arm. You know, he always kept his feet moving
as well after he got hit. So that's kind of
what made him break the tackle every single time, is
that when you keep your feet moving, well, he was
like the guy that did that the best. But what
made him super special in the receiving game was that
he had this seam route out of the backfield that
I know you've seen it before. We were touching it

(39:16):
like them, and somehow Drew Brees and Philip Rivers would
find him every time going up that seam route. It
was a mismatch every time he would go versus that
linebacker or that safety that was supposed to be covering him.
But then also right off of it, he had another
route that would branch off of the scene.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Counted it.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
He countered it, and that's why it kept all these
guys guessing. He was so quick too at planning his
foot and breaking out of the seam that no one
can get him on the angle route. So it's kind
of like you thought he was going to run up
the scene run up the hash and boom, and he
was playing his foot and he would just angle right
across the field and boom. The quarterback would just dump
into him. It was just an easy ten to fifteen
yards or possibly a touchdown because every time Alt touched

(39:57):
the ball it could possibly be a touchdown because he
was that. But that's what made him great in the
passing game. I feel like because of those two routes
right there.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
He also had a fucking insane stiff arm. You saw
him stiff arm very like a lot guys to the ground.
You had a great stiff arm, rob, what's the key
to a great stiff arm? I wasn't a good stick.
I have short arms. I can never get my goddamn
arm out there, so I couldn't stiff arm. I've seen
you stiff arm, guys of the ground. I've seen him
stiff arm, guys of the ground. How do you stiff

(40:27):
arm a guy to the ground.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Well, Joel's being stiff is always great, I can tell
you that.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Man.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
It works in all aspects of life, especially on the
football field. Oh man, oh man, you want to be
stiff two times in your life and it's kind of
contradicting itself because one is your mayor and a woman.
That's the night you want to be stiff, on your
wedding night. And the other time you want to be
stiff is when eleven guys are chasing you, which kind

(40:51):
of contradicts about being stiff and when to be stiff.
But the key to a great stiff arm is just
feeling yourself feeling strong at the moment man, just freaking
feeling like no one can take you down, and having
that right angle at the defender. I mean, if he's
too close to you, you can't stiff arm. It has
to be timed up perfectly. I've had a couple good

(41:13):
stiff arms in my career, but it's because it times
up perfectly where you can just reach out and boom,
you can hit the guy if he's too close to
you or too far away. You got to be able
to time it up perfectly. But Alt was so special
that he could time up that stiff arm at the
perfect time every time so he could get the guy
off of him so he couldn't tackle him. So that's
what makes ELTI so great. The timing of the stiff

(41:34):
arm and the angle of it as well. That's what
makes a great stiff arm. Yeah, I guess I didn't
have good timing. Yeah, yeah, you're short arms. I don't
think you've ever had a stiff arm, did you. I
didn't really have any stiff arms. I had one on
maybe in Buffalo. Yeah, but he was more the guy
was down and I was stiff armed myself to propose myself.
But we're talking about a stiff arm. But what I

(41:56):
loved about him as well is that he's just a
shiver man out on the field. He shivered shavery defenders
and made him just fall straight on their face every game,
at least one or two defenders every single game.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
He protects the ball well, I don't Yeah, I don't touch.
I remember him fumbling.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
And another thing that I loved about him that you
love too, is that he loved going airborne on the
goal line. Dude, talk about that, Jules, and talk about
as a fan, like how you just love to see that.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Well, he used to do the jump man all the time.
And I remember when we would install what is it?
It would be like something jump like we would throw
on footage of LT jumping because he knew the perfect
timing on when to jump, how to jump the angle
to jump, the direction to jump, and he was explosive

(42:50):
as fudge, so like it was just crazy. It was he.
I mean, we were watching all his highlights and we
watched it like the top six he played, he had
like six, seven, eight of these kind of touchdowns. I mean,
it wasn't like it was a one time thing. There
used to be a play where LT jump over fucking pile.
It was fucking remarkable to watch.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
This guy was so good at scoring as well. I mean,
obviously he would get yards, first downs, he would move
the ball, But this guy was also obviously what makes
you the greatest fantasy football player is that you gotta
score points. You gotta get you gotta get in the
end zone because you can have five carries for fifty yards,
but that's still only like five points one touchdowns, like whatever,
seven points or however the scoring goes in fantasy. Every

(43:33):
league is different. But this guy had five four touchdown
games and his career. I don't think that's ever been
done by any other player. But to have four touchdowns
a game. I never even had a four touchdown game.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
You had four to three touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
I did have four to three touchdown game. Those have
we ever had a game where we combined for four
touchdowns in our career.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I don't know, I don't think so that just showed
this game maybe great, LT was did you did you
have a U? I had a two touchdown game first,
a bunch of couple. I had two against Denver, one
against Miami.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Well, I can't recall these situations. Maybe if we did
have one, if we did have a combined four touchdowns,
it only happened once. He had how many maybe twice
in our career, and he had five four touchdown games,
So just imagine how many three touchdown games he had.
Imagine how many he had as well.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Three of them in one year, Oh my god, back
to back.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Also, he has the most consecutive games with a touchdown
as well with I remember he's tied with Lenny Moore.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah you remember. I remember watching ESPN. They'd always have
the LT update when we were kids, you know, you
get the Sports Center. It was kind of like when
Barry Bonds and Mark McGuire were in that home run race.
They had always like with LT and he was on
so many touchdowns, they had that like LT fucking race
thing for the record. He got it right. It was

(44:58):
crazy thirty one touchdowns?

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Mm hmm, thirty one touchdowns? You ever meet LT? I
never met LT before, Man, Actually I know, I don't
think I have.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
If I did, it was really quick in an event,
but I don't think I did. Yeah, I never met
him before, but I've only heard great things about him.
And there's actually a key to his success. And you
know about the key to his success because you worked
with the guy that was the key to LT success.
Who is now the keys to Tom Brady's success or
not now, but was the key to tom Brady's success.

(45:30):
He was the guy you know that that you know
kept everyone healthy out on the field. You know who
I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Alex Guerro AG.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Baby. Yes, before AG was known, he was working on guys,
before he ever even met Tom Brady. AG was doing
his work you know that he was born to do,
and he kept LT healthy throughout all of his years
at LT gave AG a shoutout in his Hall of
Fame speech, and LT, from what I recall, never suffered

(46:03):
a serious injury in the game of football because of
the work that AG does. So that just shows a longevity.
If you take care of your body, you know, if
you get someone to you gotta it's football. You're gonna
get bruises, you're gonna have sky tissue build up. You
gotta get that worked out. And LT was one of
the few understood that. And he was lucky to have
a guy like AG. So LT can go throughout his

(46:25):
whole career healthy. So shout out to AG for keeping
money bus running backs of all time healthy.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Baby, Yeah, I remember age. Oh. He used to talk
about him like LT mc cardinal or who like, who's the.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Receiver, Keenan mccardal, Kean McCardell. I know, quit a long
career and had longevity as well. Dude, you gotta have
the buddy guy.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
And I mean LT. He was fucking healthy running back.
He didn't miss relatively many games. I mean I actually
tackled him and I think I heard him.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
I was actually gonna bring that up, Joel, because I
have a go one to pick with you because he
played for the New York Jets the last two years.
He was so so on on you know, those last
two years with the Jets, unbelievable, still made plays play.
That was the year that you were on defense, playing
whatever his position you played on defense, you were all
over the place. You know, you were all purpose on
defense star because you're a star to him. Why, yeah,

(47:19):
I know you're a star. You're not a nickel. You're
freaking You're a dime if anything. Yeah, you're a dime
and you're a star in my book. Okay, Nickel, you
know that's a guy like uh like Amidola. His head's
getting too big from Dancing with the Stars. I want
to knock him down now. He thinks he's a dime,
but he a nickel. No, nickel getting big. Okay, he's

(47:41):
a nickel.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
He's a Dancing with the star.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
You're right, he's a true star actually, but uh so
you tackled him a few times. What was that like
and why did you do what you did to him?
Bro's LT We Love LT.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Whytch Tour is MCL and I think it was his
last play. I think it was sad.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
It is sad, bro it is sad.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
It's crazy. I that was my first game I played
dB H. They put me in the meetings that week.
I didn't think I was actually gonna play that week,
and then we were I think we were winning a
bunch at the end, or we had a ten point lead,
so they wanted to see what I would look like.
We had a cushion and I went in and I
and they gave a ball to LT opened up the hole.

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I went to plug it and I went low on
him because I'm fucking going head up with goddamn LT.
And I ended up taking his legs out. I think
it was his last play. I felt terrible, felt terrible.
I loved him as a kid.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I was my guy.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I agree with Tea. I think we talked about it once.
I've met LT, like at a some some kind of function,
and LT was so loved.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
And respected by not just the fans, but everyone in
the NFL, all the players, that everyone was sad even
though we were facing the Jets. Was on the Jets
like I was sad that LT went down, and like
other players were sat out when done. He was such
a legend. It's so cool that you tackled LT. Not
so cool they got hurt in one of your tackles.
I mean, but that was your first game. You were

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just learning how to tackle. Like you can't. You can't
blame you at all. It was a fair hit, fair play,
But how cool like to say that you just even
tackled LT one of the greatest running backs, one of them.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
They thought about it, one of the.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Most elusive running backs of all time too, Like that's
that should be in your resume, that you tackled LT
bro and you're an offensive player, Like, that's why it
should be in your resume, because.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah, I tackled with Shady McCoy too. He jumped over
me one time too, Shady.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah, Shady.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Wouldn't great locker room guy. All right.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Also, so we already know that LT all purpose player
can do at all. But one thing we didn't talk
about is just how good he was at throwing the
ball as well. I mean, he has some passing stats
that it is probably better qbrs than some of these
quarterbacks of this year. In the game, eight for twelve,
one hundred and forty three yards, he has thrown four

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in his career seven touchdowns, and he has one hundred
and forty six point nine rating rating as a QBR.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
I mean, damn good, Sign them up right now. A
lot of these games are rating for choral back. Damn
damn good rating well, Jueles, he wasn't six for six
like you. He doesn't have one hundred percent completion percentage
you do. Yeah, and your and your rating was better too.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Your rating was what like one hundred and fifty math guys,
so like one hundred and fifty eight point three rating?
Am I right?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Also, you had one hundred and twenty eight yards. You
threw four in two touchdowns. Somebody say that is that perfect? Great,
you are a diamond in the star. Say that's perfect,
that's a perfect rating.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
I always knew you were a perfect buddy. Yeah, but
you're one dude. That is just perfect?

Speaker 2 (50:49):
No, yeah, perfect ten. Yeah. Man. He was also a
monster in college TCU horn frogs.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Oh, he's horny.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
He had a four hundred yard game and go.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
So I just took I took that the wrong direction.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Didn't win the Heisman? How is that because Chris winky? Chris?
I don't know Chris ward Is. I remember him. I
don't Florida State.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
But I also didn't watch football like that girl.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
He played for the Carolina Panthers when he was like thirty.
He was like a rookie.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Well what about his best game at TCU. I mean
it was ridiculous. It was better than video game numbers.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yeah, he had forty three carries, four in six yards
and six touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Ridiculous, God, they should have been number one overall. Who
was drafted number one overall that year? And what two
thousand and one it was?

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Who was it? Because what Michael Vick?

Speaker 1 (51:40):
All right, you can't you can't argue that. You can't
argue that. Yeah, all right, maybe he should have been
drafted number one then, yeah, vic Vick was the man.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
What a class though.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Michael Vick is the running quarterback who started the running
quarterback position basically, and then you got Alt, who, yeah,
freaking innovated the game as well. All right, Jueles, we've
been talking about Alt for a little bit. What type of.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Guy is lt? I mean, he's had pedigree. He had
the best almost the best single season fantasy. He had
the best single season in fantasy for a pro. He
had a four hundred yard game. And as a as
a college kid, I mean, he was drafted four overall.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Five touch five, four touchdown games and this guy he's
got five of them. So in five games he scored
twenty touchdowns. Put it that way.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
That's yeah a lot.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
It took me sixteen games to score eighteen touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Yeah, this guy's a full blown on three one two three.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Athleticism football. IQ moves balance, he's a stud, always keeps
his feet, face mask.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
He just had that dark visor.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
That's a god. He's a stude. Sampen sign it off
in the male usps.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Bye bye, Let's get on to the next dude.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
All right, not to synopsis.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Here we go. What's a I have to say?

Speaker 1 (53:04):
I love dudes, man, especially the first dude and then
the second dude is always a nice.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
This guy's got the third dude has your heart. This
guy's got dudes.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
All right, here we go. This dude, standing at five
for ten inches and weighing two hundred and six pounds,
was a versatile NFL running back. He was born in
New Orleans, Louisiana. Hey, Julian, where's the super Bowl this year?
Quick trivia? Okay, is it New Orleans or is it
New Orleans?

Speaker 2 (53:32):
I think it's Nolans. That's knowledge combinia. I think that's
like the knowledge Frenchy way of saying, like the NA.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
We're going to Nallans for the Super Bowl this year.
We're gonna be on TV for Fox doing the pregame show.
Check us out Atnleans. Baby all right back to the synopsis,
all right. Born in Orleans, Louisiana, he would go on
to play college football at San Diego State, where he
was a two time All American. He played for the

(54:02):
Indianapolis Colts your favorite team, Julian from nineteen ninety four
to nineteen ninety eight and the Saint Louis Rams from
nineteen ninety nine to two thousand and five. The greatest
show on turf he was sure part of. Actually he
was the show on turf baby. He was drafted as
little trivia as to what to take a guess one
through four two Ding, ding, ding, You are correct. He

(54:24):
was drafted as a second overall pick in nineteen ninety
between three and five four nineteen ninety four NFL Draft.
That is correct. You're a genius, Juleis. He was widely
regarded No wonder why you could play freaking defense and
offense at the same time, No way. He was widely
regarded as one of the greatest running backs in NFL history,
and in your mind he was.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
I think he's the greatest of all. There we go.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
He has your heart. He was known for his speed, power,
and ability to excel both as a rusher and a receiver.
He was named NFL MVP in two thousand three Offensive
Player of the Year awards in a Super Bowl championship.
He was elected to Pro Football Hall of Fame in
two thousand and eleven. Which was my fantasy football season

(55:10):
that I dominated. So Marshall Fawk and I we have
a connection. Twenty eleven. Oh, he went into the Hall
of Fame. Twenty eleven. I had my best fantasy football season. Baby. Oh,
we on the same page.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
So we're onto Marshall fall Oh.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Oops, oops, oops, I gave it away. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
He is still regarded as one of the best fantasy
football running backs of all time. But fantasy football wasn't
even that big in the nineties and two thousands. But
he's still regarded as one of the best. That's how
good he was.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Jules, we're onto Marshall Fulk.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Marshall Falk.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
First thing that comes to mind when I think about
Marshall Fulk is.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
What, Jules, what comes to your mind?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Greatest show on turf.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
He's the best running back of all time in your heart.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
You watch Marshall Falk, he reminds you of Barry Sanders,
and he also like he had the stop go, he
was really good at cutting back, he had really great vision.
He's bigger than what you thought. And then you throw
in the past game where he is the original. I
mean there's Roger Craig and those old West Coast but

(56:09):
he was like the original fucking personnel problem guy where
like he got thousand, I think he did the thousand thousand,
He did that one time, but he had a lot
of like eight hundred, nine hundred, four hundred five, Like
he was a pivotal part of their past game. He
was great in the run game like, and he didn't
get hurt. He was healthy his whole career. Like he

(56:33):
didn't miss games. That's like unreal, especially how he played.
I mean he missed a game here or two, but
he didn't have any significant time missage. So like he's
I think one of the he's probably because of that.
This this is a newer style of football of being
someone that uses using the past game. It was super

(56:54):
kind of like not known when Roger Craig and those
old forty nine ers and those Bills teams, those running
shoot team games and West Coasting, it wasn't like normal.
After Marshall Falk, people were trying to make Marshall fulk
and then you get LTS and then you get the
Christian McCaffrey's It is because Marshall falk Man took it
to a whole other level.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
I mean, I think he just you know, missed only
you were talking about how prolific of a player he
was in sustainability. I think he just missed only sixteen
games in his twelve years of playing, and at the
running back position, getting what thirty plus carries a game,
getting tackled that many times, and just to miss sixteen
games out of twelve seasons is just incredible at all

(57:33):
those catches as well, running full speed downhill a linebacker
running full speed at you and getting blown up and
just still being able to be that sustainable and have
that longevity is just out of control. And the synopsis
AI also missed that he was a seven time pro bowler.
He was a three time All Pro. You know, he
was Rookie of the Year in nineteen ninety four as well,

(57:54):
So right when he got on the scene, he was producing. Man.
He was not a bust at all. Obviously not a bust.
We're talking about him as the greatest all time, but
he was producing right away, so he made that GM
feel very good right from the beginning. Greatest show on turf. Obviously,
that's what you think of him whenever you hear about him,
which was one of the coolest, you know names that

(58:14):
you could be you know, associated with in all of football.
And what's great about Marshall Falk and LT as well
is that these guys were the running backs when the
running back position was the absolute shit. Like everyone wanted
to be a running back growing up, Not really anymore,

(58:35):
but this coming coming coming back where these guys were
everyone growing up, Even if you were a defensive lignment,
you still wanted to be a running back. I was
a tight end. I wanted to be a running back
because of these guys, LT and Marshall Falk Baby.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Without a doubt. Isn't it crazy to think he played
with Peyton Manning Heyton Manny. Yeah he played all though,
Yeah no, but yeah, no one remembers everyone. Everyone forgets
about how good of a cult he was. He's got
his his his jerseys and the Rafters he played four
years there and they retired his jersey. He was Rookie
of the Year. His first game on the scene goes

(59:16):
for one thirty four three touchdown debut. Like that's crazy.
He just he was a fucking machine. He hits you
like he hits you with the run. Run long run,
hits you out the backfield. Talk about seam route. We
talked about seam route with LT. He ran steam routes.
He ran post. I saw him run a bang a

(59:36):
a post from the outside, which is a real receiver route.
He used to run real receiver routes. Now they always
throw this this, this running back and run routes like
a receiver, which you.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Know, which is rare, Like you can't you can tell
when it's a running back that split out wide, especially.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
In this even now, No, A lots of guys, even
the analysts will say, this guy runs, he's got routes
like a receiver.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
But no, not sure how that analyst is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Yeah, Marshall Falk though he had route Syager receiver. Yes
he did. He had Route Siger receiver.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
If you can run a post route, split out wide,
and run a post route as a running back, that
means you got routes like a wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
That he I mean in cuts out, cuts, option routes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
The typical route for a running back right now, five
yard hits route freaking uh started one step turnaround? What's
that call again? Real quick? Like the quick pass? You
just stepped one turn screen. Yeah, a little screen rip
screen to you. They also a little dre the angles
and the seams out of the backfield. Marshall Falk was
running the whole entire freaking route tree route tree. Yes,

(01:00:36):
that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
I mean in two nineteen ninety nine, thirteen hundred yards rushing,
one thousand and forty eight receiving. Chris Johnson broke his
right in two thousand and nine though, twenty five hundred yards, man,
I forgot how good Chris Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Chris Johnson c J two K bybee Yeah he did that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
That was crazy. That year, the three year running Saint
Louis with the Greatest Show on Turf N nine through
two thousand and one. He had fifty nine touchdowns, six
seven hundred and fifty six yards in offense, and he
won MVP in two thousand That in a Super Bowl.
That is an elite three years.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Oh that's a show, if you ask me. I mean,
Marshall Falk made playing on turf cool, even though playing
on turf wasn't cool like everyone wanted turf fields in
high school because of Marshall Falk and the greatest show
on turf. But you get so bruised and banged up
playing on turf that it was it was the worst
idea ever to even step on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
And it was old turf. You know, it's crazy. He
was on old turf and he didn't he played that
many games and didn't miss that many games.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
That is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
That is like, that's built differently.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
You want to hear a look cool fun fact. John
Payton was his running back coach at the San Diego
State University when San Diego was there playing running back.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
How does it getet created? That's that's crazy. You know
what it tells you. There's a lot of unscouted guys
in Louisiana. If he's going to San Diego.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Scho I'll talk about getting unscouted. He only had one offer,
That's what I mean. Yeah, it's too San Diego State,
That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
You get, Yeah, that's how much talent there is. Probably
goes unseen in Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
I mean you went unseen and you were California.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
We got a lot of big people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
You weren't that good in high school. I was pretty yeah,
but uh, but also his high school they were kind
of like a heavy passing offense as well, Like they
didn't really okay, But he must have not been that
great in high school though, because if you're that great,
you kind of like changed from going to a heavy
passing offense, like yeah, let's hand the ball off, Like
this guy is one hundred times better. But like he
must have really burst onto the scene at San Diego

(01:02:42):
State University, like once he got into college kind of
like you jewels a little bit. Not everyone is a
beast from late bloomer. Yeah, I'm telling you this. It's
better to be a late bloomer than an early bloomer.
How about I can tell you that right now. It
sucks to be the greatest as a young bob and
then you don't make it so late bloomers, I'm a

(01:03:03):
late bloomer.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
I think you just bloomed. Yeah, he sold popcorn at
the Superdome as a kid. How crazy is that?

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
That is pretty crazy? But that's that's a lot of
stories that just shows me. That just shows his work
ethic just as a kid that's installed into him. And
that's like, that's what makes you great Like I was
a paper boy growing up, and I took that route personal,
and I wanted to make sure everyone had that paper
on their front porch when they woke up in the
morning with the coffee in their hand opening up the door.
Like the hard work and dedication was just installing to

(01:03:36):
you as a young kid. And that's just like Marshall
Fox selling popcorn at the super Dome. He wanted the
job and he wanted to get it done.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Do you ever have any crazy jobs as a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
I was a paper boy. I was also an umpire
as a kid, and uh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I was I cooked. Let me strength, Let me see
your strength?

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Three?

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
You want to here, mother truck. You used to reading
these kids? I used to do. I used to umpire
at college in Kent, and I used to ring up
these kids all the time. I change it up, certain kid, lefty,
I mean, I got a real kid.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
You sounded like like a true pro right there, But
that that's true. You love like you love the animated
that facts and you sounded like, oh you got me there?
Should I just struck out over here with.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
That strick, ring these little kids up, send them home. Yeah,
I got a real pickle ones do.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Let's hear it. I like pickles, especially Angelica pickles, rugrats. Dude, dude, no,
she she was mean. Actually yeah, that pickles was mean.
All right, all right, back to your pickle. Oh oh oh,
Tommy pickles too. Tommy pickles is my favorite. Oh pickle,
Like you're in baseball like that type of pickle. Okay, literally,

(01:04:55):
that was my favorite. You ever play running bases growing up,
it's all about being a pickle.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Kids love to play that game pickle. In this specific league,
there was a rule where they couldn't, like, the catcher
couldn't sit and fake throw the ball at first, so
like they had to throw it back and the runner
couldn't advance to try to eliminate, to try to eliminate pickle.
So one time the kids are doing it, and all

(01:05:22):
of a sudden, I tell the catcher, I'm like, kid,
throw it back to the picture. He ain't going nowhere. Well,
he throws it back. The kid takes off and I'm like,
oh fuck. And so all of a sudden they throw
it and the kid it goes over the kid's second basement.
The kid gets all the way to third, and all
of a sudden, the coach is yelling at the catcher,

(01:05:43):
why did you throw it back? And the kid looks
at me and he goes, the ump told me to
throw it back. So I'm sitting there, I got this
coach over here. There's another coach over there, and I'm like, yeah,
you got to go back to first. All of a sudden,
this coach comes out. I was like, what the hell's
you talking about? He's on third, he's on I was like, nah,

(01:06:04):
he's got to go back. I told the kid to
throw it back. You know the rule, we can't do that.
And I almost had to get suspended as an umpire
because this guy filed a report like, oh, this can't
do it. So I'm sitting there and this little kid.
As soon as the picture comes back and I get
under there and it's just me and him, because you know,
you have a relationship with the catcher when you're behind
the plate. I go, bro, didn't your friends ever teach

(01:06:29):
you about snitches? And the kid goes what. I was like, nothing, start,
but fucking yeah. Having a job as a kid, I
mean it teaches you a lot of values. I mean
it sure does, you know, especially Marshall Falk selling popcorn
at the Super.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Dome popcorn, popcorn? Want some popcorn?

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
All right? Then?

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Just a little scouting port that I have on Marshall
Fulk just watching some of his film highlight film is
Top Plays, is that obviously he has a high football IQ.
To be able to, you know, come out of the
backfield and run all the routes and also to be
able to carry the ball and know how to hit
the gaps, you got to know the whole game of football.
He's when you're that versatile of a player, you got
to have a high football IQ, which a lot of

(01:07:13):
football players. Obviously I have a high football qu but
he had it to a whole nother level. And he's
so elusive on the field he makes defenders miss. But
the one thing I really loved about him was he
had one of the best spin moves.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Man's move off the charts. He just smoothed with it too.
I remember we were we were watching some research and
there was a clip of Mike Martz. Remember we were
talking he was the head coach of the Greatest Show
on Turf?

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Yeah, I remember what did he say about him?

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
What are you saying, well, Marshall was you know they
have all these notes from installation and Marshall's got all
these pens out and he's got very critique notes and
using different colors for different positions, different players. And I
guess Marshall looks back at the guy the team and
he goes, how the hell is no one else write
notes because look at all this information. You know, that's

(01:08:00):
the kind of guy he was. He was a smart,
hard working dude that worked his balls off for everything
he had. It wasn't like he was just that. I mean,
he was that guy, but it's crazy he I mean,
he rival I used to love Barry Sanders and then
you know, I just remember as a kid, this guy

(01:08:21):
Marshall Falk was just so crazy. He reminded me a
little bit of Barry Sanders with his cutting and is
he could drop his weight and stuff. He was taller,
he wasn't as short as Berry, but like he was
kind of like Barry Sanders. And then he was also
a really good receiver.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Yeah he was like a little bit thicker than Barry Sanders.
But also he can go out and run routes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Yeah, it's crazy. That's why, Like I was thinking about it,
and I was we were watching all this research and
I'm sitting there, I'm like, dude, this is like probably
one of the best. This is the best guy of
all time. Look at look at these plays. Yes, and
justalking about but it's crazy. Then you then you watch
Jim Brown, you watched Walter Payton and he I don't

(01:09:04):
know if it's just because I just watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
So many good running backs, bro, so many good it's
hired to decide and decipher like who's number one. But
just talking about his football IQ, I mean, look at
this quote from Sean Payton. He knew not only the
offensive side of the football, but also the defensive protections,
and he knew the quarterback play as well, and he
studied it hired. That's just from Champagne. Michael Strahan said
he was a coach out there. He's quoted saying that,

(01:09:28):
So like that just shows how smart of a player
he was, and that's what took his game to a
whole nother level as well. So just speaking of that, Jewels,
what type of guy is Marshall Falk What kind.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Of dude is he? What kind of dude is Marshall Fulk?
I mean, I mean he hits a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
These running backs. So we're talking about him. None of
them are actually like freaks, Like none of them stand
out to you like that. Like I would say, like, look,
Garrett Blunt was a freak because he like he was
like six ' four.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Derrick Henry, Yeah, Derek Henry.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Is a freak. Like these guys aren't freaks like that.
I mean they're not, no, but they had it's it's
freaky that it's freaky what they're doing, but they're not freaking.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
It's pretty packy. How healthy he was for how much
football he played. I mean, he's got some dog Tennessees.
He's clearly a freaking stud. But when I think of him,
I think of him as an innovative guy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
We're on the same page, brother, same page.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
He pretty much how smart he was smart, and how
he's changed the running back position to what it's become now.
Look at Saquon Barkley out of the backfield, look at
look at Christian McCaffrey out of the backfield. You know,
it's such a pivotal part of a lot of these offenses.
A running back. They usually have a two headed monster.

(01:10:44):
You know, Detroit has you know, Montgomery and and Gibbs
and al Jier and and Robinson in Atlanta. These two,
this guy did all three downs and was just as
good as all those guys and better at a lot
of these and everyone at both of them. Like, that's
how good Marshall Falk was. He invented a position. He

(01:11:06):
he evolved the running back position. That's why I think
he's a whiz.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Hey, I'm on the same page and just his football
IQ and just the coaches and former players that just
talk about how smart he was and how he knows
everything that's going out, you know, going on on the
football field. That takes your game to a whole nother level.
I mean, you can be an freaking athlete, you know,
but if you don't know what to do out in
the football field, you're not a good football player. You

(01:11:31):
can be less of an athlete, but you know how
what's going on with the game, he was an athlete.
You can be that much better than the guy that's
more free, that's more athletic than you out on the
football field. You're a better football player because of that.
And what's also crazy is Marshall Falk had seven hundred
and sixty receptions in his career, for six hundred more
than me in seventy eight hundred and seventy five yards.
Julian in the right season, you had six hundred and

(01:11:54):
twenty receptions only for six thousand, eight hundred and twenty
two yards. And he was a running back. I can
he have more receptions in yards than you, which is
out of control. I'm not saying anything, guess, I'm just
saying that's how good Marshall Falk was back in the day.
And guess what, they didn't throw the ball as much
either back in that era. You know, back we'd be
late nineties two.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
We'd also be so crazy not to mention one thing.
Kevin Folks his cousin. That's the.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
That they talk bloodline.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
They have some crazy running backs that know how to
catch out of the backfield in that blood.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Line and run the ball as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Well. I mean, Kate Fulk all of our past game
was the kay Faulk and he was he was like
one of the most elite.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Pumpers and he was one of the smartest players on
the football field as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
These folks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
He knew what was going on, he knew what the
linemen were doing with the doing. What the fuck, what
the fuck? How are you guys so smart and good. Yeah,
and and freaking great teammates. Yeah, great teammates. Well, what
kind of dude is he?

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Jules?

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
You ready on three one two three? Whiz stamp it,
put it in the mail. We'll be right back after
this quick break.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Real quick. We got a little post segment.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
And since we're talking fantasy football and we have fantasy dudes,
let's make an old time fantasy team.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
All right, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
So you know, our our producers, Kyler and Jack and
everyone helped us with some guys.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Love our producers.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Thank you. Let's let's orchestrate a lineup, Jack, Kyler, this
is a PPR lineup. I think we're gonna quarterback, running back,
running back, receiver, receiver, tight end, defense, special team, kickers.
So we're gonna go. Okay, there's no there's no flex. No,

(01:13:45):
that's right, all right, all right, we did we just
had a flex. No no, no, no, some flex right?

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
No, brother, all right, I'm taking you down this week
in fantasy. You're going down one twelve, gonna be two
and twelve. Baby, I'm not even taking Jamal Williams out
of the freaking bye week either. I'm gonna start him. Still,
that's how confident I am.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Put a fork in the quarterback. Now, is this all
time seasons? Our quarterback? We gotta go, paint, we gotta go.
I mean, do you go with time? I mean it's
obvious we gotta pick all right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Yeah, I know, we just love we do love you,
But sometimes I feel like we're just picking you too
many times.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Tom.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Yeah, but how you're the greatest. So it's not our fault,
you know, I know, like I just don't want you
to get sick of us talking about you. Okay, Okay, Tom.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
We're picking Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Yeah, Brady, let's go, baby running back? Running back?

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Oh well, obviously we're going.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Well yeah, No, LT had the greatest fantasy football sea
Oh you get too, okay, Marshall fulk and uh l
t LT. Let's go with it. Also, it's not per year.
It's like I just got confused. Yes, LT had that
one season where it's the greatest of all time and fantasy,
but this is overall, and both of those two are
actually the greatest of all time overall. So Alt, Marshall

(01:15:08):
Fox our two running backs, baby.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Receiver, Oh you gotta go, Randy. Randy was probably nasty.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Oh, Randy, I mean also Randy and then whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Jamar Jamar chases he had a fucking foreigner, he had
that crazy game. I might go with Jamar right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Now, what about Jerry?

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Right? Where's Jerry?

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Why is Jerry not on the list? I mean the
guy played Jared for like twenty five plus. Jerry Randy,
Jerry definitely Jerry Moss.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Bro Come on, Randy, Jerry, Jerry Randy Yeah, tight end,
I mean, we gotta go with he Rob alright, fine,
we gotta go with except that thanks, I mean he had.
Was that the best fantasy year of all time?

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Yes, there you go. Special team, thank you defense?

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Uh, special team's defense was probably a Baltimore Ravens team.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Wouldn't you say that eighty five Bears? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Oh, the eighty five Bears would be a.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Great legion of boom years. Or the Ravens. I'm gonna
go with.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
I'm gonna go with the Baltimore Ravens. I feel like
they're just the most known.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
And they were all times, and special teams were always good.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Yep, let's go Rave Ravens.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Two thousand Ravens.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
But that's just an error that that whole era of
that decade, the two thousand decade, Yeah, with the Ravens
and just Ray Lewis and freaking the say Ed Reid
was red Reed was there the whole time. So just
the decade of the Ravens in the two thousands and
then Kicker, I mean we gotta go with probably Adam Vinentry, correct, I.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Mean Steve was. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
I love Steve, I love I love I loves Clutch
because you know, Krisski was with Clutch Bro he came through,
but people don't really for us plenty of times.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Steve, Yeah, he had like the best record of overall
kicking percentage until he heard his hip and then his
hip went and then he started missing a little member
and then we put him on O R.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
And then he just go for or you know, kickers
a couple of solid years after the hip and yeah,
but that fucked him up a little, yeah, little, I
mean injuries.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
That's why it makes me wonder about Justin Tucker. Does
Justin Tucker have you know, something going wrong because he's
missing some stuff that we don't There's got to be.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
But the thing with Tucker is bro like people are
acting like like he can't kick the ball. That fire anymore,
like he's just shanking him, like and it's bad, Like
he's barely missing these I know, like he's barely missing.
I'm talking like a foot to the left, the foot
to the right, like I'm thinking, like how everyone's ripping
on my I might and see the kick, I'm like, wait,
that was a very solid you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Know, I don't rip him. I feel bad. It's tough, man,
because you know that's how that's how the football gods.
They humble you sometimes they do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
You never get never have a big head in football,
because you, like you said, dads will come and just
swipe you right out underneath your feet and just humble
you the next week.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
When was this what I've learned?

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
I learned football in my way?

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
What was your humble experience? I had one too, all right,
I mean NFL humbled you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Well, well it's you your yours?

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Well mine was. I remember in twenty fifteen, we were bawling.
Remember we started out ten and O we just won
our Super Bowl. Yes, I was lighting it up like
I had it was. I think there was Week nine
and I had like sixty catches, seven touchdowns. I was like,
just fucking were we were on a roll. And like

(01:18:28):
I remember, I bought a condo in Boston and I
was sitting there and I was redoing, and I was
sitting in there, big shot, yeah, and it was empty.
It was fully I was it was completely demoed, like
I was just sitting there imagining what I was doing
with and I was sitting there like, man, this is awesome.
I feel like football is real at an easy point,
you know. And I remember the next week I broke

(01:18:49):
my foot and like I remember specifically thinking when I
broke my foot of that situation, I was in the
condo thinking, man, the football guys fucking sat me down
and said, shut the fuck up, and it hurt me.
That's why, and that's why I always got crazy at
the end of wins and stuff like super like yo,
it's not over yet. We got to wait to this

(01:19:10):
that because anytime I thought things were great, I got
slapped down one hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
I learned my after my second year, Like you know,
when I when I injured my ankle going into a
Super Bowl in two thousand whatever, We're in that AFC
Championship game versus Ravens, and then that offseason, like I
still thought I was unstoppable and invincible, you know, from
the season. So I did terrible rehab. I was still
going out on on on my boot like I'm supposed

(01:19:37):
to be on crutches and I'm I'm freaking already walking
on the boot drunk and all that stuff, thinking I'm
gonna heal like totally you know, normal, And then like
training camp comes and I became like I was the
best tight end like ever, and I like swear I
became like the worst tight end ever when that training
camp came, because like I had a pretend I was
healed even though my ankle was messed up still, because

(01:19:58):
I was just so young and that I thought I
was gonna heal no matter what. And I was doing
all the things that Gronk was doing, you know that
what Everyone loved that for so at least everyone loved
me for it. But when it came down to that
camp the following year, bro, I couldn't get open. First
nobody my ankle was messed up. It wasn't firing. My
whole body wasn't firing. And that's when I learned like,
oh my gosh, man, like I thought I was the

(01:20:20):
greatest thing, you know, yeah, which I kind of was
I'm gonna get knocked out right after I get up
out of this chair. I'm gonna someone's gonna just come
and hit me for saying that. No, just getting my
head too big. But I just showed right there that hey,
you gotta put the work in. And I thought, just
thought it was gonna come natural to me. The football
gods boomed. You gotta put the work in. If you don't,

(01:20:41):
even when you get hurt. You know, when you get
knocked down, you got to put the work back in
to come back up. And that's when I truly learned, like, hey,
I gotta truly start taking care of myself. That was
one of the times that my eyes were open like wow,
like wow, I suck right now because I didn't really
take care of myself like how I was supposed to,
and the football world just and smacks you right in
the face just like that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
That's why I came up with the term happily miserable.
That had to be in a miserable mindset in order
to be happy, because if I was, if I was happy,
then it would make me miserable if by something bad happening.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Do that science, I one hundred percent agree with you bro,
because when you're miserable, you're trying to do everything right
to get back to happy, and when you're happy for
too long, you forget about it doing all the right
things that got you to be happy. So you got
to become miserable again. Miser freaking genius, Jules, you are
a ge. That's some due knowledge right there. That's dude
on due knowledge. Hopefully share that with the world.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Brother, We got to share it. I have. I made
a T shirt there read read those. What's our team?
Rob All?

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Right? Quarterback position, we got the goat, we got the greatest.
We got the quarterback that we actually made famous, Julian
tom Brady. You and then I running back Ladanian Thomason
and running back Marshall Fock, the two greatest Fantasy football
players of all time. Receiver, we got the straight cash
homie right there showing off the shirt. Jewels shot out

(01:22:05):
to Randy Moss Baby. Also wide receiver Jerry Rice, who
played like fifty years and there's absolutely dominated every single
year that he played. And then defense, special teams, we
got the Baltimore Ravens decades of the two thousands, because
they were just absolute savages, absolute beasts. They put the
fear and everyone that they were lining up against ray Lewis.

(01:22:26):
They were led by him, who's one of the greatest linebackers,
if not one of the greatest linebacker of all time.
And then we're going with kicker Steven gust We're going with.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
We do.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Gotta go Terry. I love Gustkowski, but yes we do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
We just got and you forgot, you forgot tight end.
We gotta go you. And you don't want to read
your name, but without a doubt, you gotta go Rob
on fantasy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
I was just being humble. I didn't want to get
humbled by the football gods.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
So yeah, I humbled myself.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
And let me say, my Jewels, I really wish you
were on that list. Jewles, what the heck can we
put slot receiver because humble you don't want to know
by the football gods. Well, I'm gonna put you on
their slot receiver. No no, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
We know that fantasy football takes place during the regular season.
Don't put them out if it was the postseason and
be different.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Just like my water bottle, I'm getting so excited about
fantasy touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
What's our what? What's our team? Name. Oh, uh, dudes, dudes,
Rad Team Auto Draftees.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Yeah, I like that, actually, dudes, Rad Dude dudes, Rad
Team Auto Draftees. No, dudes, Rad Auto Drafty.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Dudes, Rad Earns Auto drafts because remember if we have
Ernie in.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
There, Oh yeah, you gotta be automatically a genius.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Yeah, Earns Auto Drafty.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
He's got football, he's got the football guys on his side.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Ernie, well, he probably he probably never happy. He was
always yeah, you know what I mean. He stays in
that like calculation mindset where he's happy, but like he's
happy county numbers. That's different than that cappy like, oh man,
I got fucking sixty catches and nine games.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
I'm fucking the band. He never talked, so he was
always uh. He was always humble, always thinking about the
next thing. So you could never have a big head.
A big head full of knowledge, that's all, but not
a big head full of you know, being cocky.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Just just a good guy, good guy, great library too,
great guy. Well that's been another episode of dudes on dudes.
What could we do well better?

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
I can tell you this, jewels, because you know, what
can we do better?

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
A lot of fans saying what we what I could
do better was I could wear shoes.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
I like you got tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
I'm listening to you guys, and I thought if they
said I could be better on the show, because if
I wear shoes, and I'm gonna wear shoes the fans
out there. So I'm wearing shoes here today. Baby. These
are my Wolf and Shepherds, all whites.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
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