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April 10, 2025 • 217 mins

It's all about Freaks this week! We've compiled every Freak featured on the show thus far into one special Mega Episode. From dudes that can play both ways to dudes that are reinventing the hurdle game, we're talking about some all-time Freaks. We wrap up by naming our Freak of the Year in The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Travis Hunter got the Heisman. I mean, put Colorado on
the map along with Dion you name.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It, He's done it.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Heisman Trophy winner played both ways, almost one hundred receptions
in college his junior year for over a thousand yards.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Where do you think he's going.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
I think he's going to the New England Patriots. I
think they need help on both sides of the ball.
So why not draft a two way player? You know
they don't need a quarterback. No, they need a receiver.
And if it doesn't work out at receiver, he can
play defensive back. If it doesn't work out on defense,
he can play receiver. It's a win win situation.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's a good situation. This is incredible, man, that'd be
that well? He played both ways. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes.
I'm Julian Edelman and I'm Rob Gronkowski and this is
a show where your favorite dudes get to talk about
their favorite dudes.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Today, we got a freaks Mega cut Freaks Mega cut,
All the freaks in one episode, all.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
The freaks in one episode. What are we going to
talk about today? Our favorite Randy Moss stories.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
When some reporter came up to him, said Randy, what
do you think about game fining? He says, straight cash, homie.
What makes Josh Allen so elite?

Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's just truly showing how much knowledge he has of
the game, and he takes it to a new level
every year, and he took it to even another level
this year. Travis Hunter playing both ways in the NFL, but.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I don't think anyone's played like this. He's averaging one
hundred and fourteen plays per game.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Art and for the chillis Dude of the Week presented
by cors Light, we name our freak of the Year.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Let's go Dudes on.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio Great being back in
the Nuthouse, isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
It, Yeah, Julian, That's why I brought a nuthouse present here.
I was actually in San Diego. I was at, you know,
some Indian gaming convention, which was a great time. Loved
the Indians. Love what they do, you know, to bring
entertainment to us. And I was walking by a booth
and take a picture, and like they had these vacuums
in the booth and I was like, give me a
vacuum and I'll take a picture with you.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
And They're like deal.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
So they gave me that vacuum that I wanted, and
then I was like, how am I going to bring
this vacuum home? And then I was like, oh, great idea,
that's gonna be my present to the nuthouse. I haven't
been to the nuthouse in a while, so Jules, I
donated a vacuum to the nuthouse today. Driving vacuums, yes,
it just operates on its own. So I feel good

(02:30):
about myself that I contributed to the nuthouse.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I put together a little list of things that ever
since Rob started coming to the house, we have a
lot of one beverages, whether it's protein shakes, free, some
kind of sport drink something. There's always a massive amount
of boxes of sport drinks coming into the nuthouse.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Because of well, isn't that a positive? That's a positive
plus a right phew.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I felt like you were talking about it like it
was a negative. I'm we need protein, we need you
to stay hydrated.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
He's brought a speaker, he brought a couple backpacks.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
The robot cleaner. We got that tequila a few times.
And I'm not talking like one bottle of tequila. I'm
talking it's like massive huge bottles of tequilas that he
gets at like these events that are for like big parties.
He just comes here and he's like, uh, here, guys,
take this. So we have like twenty of those, a
bunch of clothes and merchandise from a bunch of different

(03:30):
brands that send to the nuthouse for Rob. Body washing shampoo,
always has deodorant sent to the house.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
That was from the l A Bowl, La bol Bowl
and dog shit.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah it was the artist sports Dogs.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
So I want to officially give Rob the new name
Roberto Claws. Thank you, but I'm always bearing gifts when
he comes.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
You couldn't give me that name because, uh, that name
has already been established. And you know the guy that
already established that named Nate ruckdalsh on my childhood friend
who lived with me in Foxborough, Massachusetts.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I don't know Nate Rustbury. I know Nate dog Yeah,
Nate dogg.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
He actually gave me that name before because of how
many presents I always brought home from the facility dinners, plates, silverware, blenders,
and he's like, you Roberto Claus now, and I was like, yeah,
that's that. Yeah, he said that before, So.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Dog shout out.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, I'll take it though either way.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
If you go to Rob's house back in Foxboro, so
all you'll see is the to go boxes from the
Patriots facility, You'll see like lunch meat in these to
go boxes. You'll see fruit in these to go boxes.
Rob would leave the facility with like four bags, like
he just left Costco with just hot food to bring

(04:51):
to his fucking house.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
And it wasn't just for me, it was for everyone
that was staying at the house too, And like I
made it like feel like like it was a juster
Like that costed me money too. I'm like, y'all, I
brought home meals for you, like they're gonna take it
on my paycheck, like so you better appreciate me even more.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
There'd be like one or two nights a week where
there'd be a specialty thing in there where they'd throw
in some cheddary you have flays and.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Shit, this is just so great to be back in
the Nighthouse together.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
It is. I love it.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
I'm so glad it didn't burn down Jewels because we
would be in a bad situation. But I would have,
you know, supported you, and I would have showed up
with a bag of goodies.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Still, yeah, he probably would have showed up with the house. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Rob would have just had some a company. Some company
would have sent Rob a fucking portable house for us
to shoot it.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yes, I would have it. Just all.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
It would have had a notice say, please tack us. Well,
that's Roberto Claus for you, Roberto Clause, please tag us.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I get it all. You're crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Thanks for bearing with us guys through the remote. With
these remote episodes. We want to be in the studio
and we'll get there, but the remote is working and.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's just fun. It is, man.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
And you know, I get to hang out on the
East coast because I'm an East Coast guy, you know,
so it's hard to be out on the West coast
all year long.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
But uh, you know it's.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Good for us because we still get to hang out.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, and it's like it's hanging out in twenty twenty.
Marriage relationship too.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
We'll never get sick of each other, and it's it's
sometimes it's good to be long distance. And then when
we see each other again, it's like an explosion. Yeah, yeah,
the house explodes.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Little rashing time. Oh man, let's get in the chillis
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Speaker 3 (06:45):
George give me that course. But we recovered cold as
the Rockies. Thank you Coors Light for refreshing me. And
we're naming our freak of the year, Jules.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Who is it? Travis Hunter? Makes sense? Maybe, wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
This guy's won the best award for offense player, defensive
player at best receiver, best corner. He's got the Heisman.
I mean he put Colorado on the map along with Dion.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
You name it, He's done it.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Heisman Trophy winner played both ways, almost one hundred receptions
in college his junior year for over one thousand yards
fifteen touchdowns. I only had a total of fifteen touchdowns
in my career in college. I think it was six
my freshman year and then ten my sophomore year. Oh no,
I had more than fifteen. I had sixteen, baby, that's right.

(07:42):
But he had fifteen to one year, three interceptions playing
defense and played a toll of over fourteen hundred snaps.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
This guy's incredible.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
He is the chillest dude you know of the week,
and he's the freak of the.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Year, freak of the week. Where do you think he's
going a.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Freak of the year. I think he's going to the
new Engan page. I think they need help on both
sides of the ball, So why not draft a two
way player? You know, they don't need a quarterback. No,
they need a receiver. And if it doesn't work out
at receiver, he can play defensive back. If it doesn't
work out on defense, he can play receiver. It's a
win win situation.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's a good situation. This is incredible, man, It'll be
that'd be that, that'd be creat Well.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
He played both ways, I think so. I'll answer that.
I think so. But just a package on package on
whatever one that he's not playing full time?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, I mean I think I don't think he's gonna
play full time both ways. No, I just don't think
a team is going to invest a lot of money
into him to do that when you can get more
out of him with you know, playing on one side
and then giving that package on the other.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
We've already gone over that a million times.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Ready, Ready, Browns, Patriots or Giants, go name one of
those teams that he goes to.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
You only get to pick one.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Because he don't think he's going to the Giants, to
the Browns. I don't think the Patriots are gonna get
him either.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well, then where is he going? Like where is he going? Like, well,
who's next Kansas City Chiefs. No, he's dropping the top
ten to the thirty first pick. I hope he doesn't
go to the Jags, but I don't I don't hope.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
I don't hope he goes to the Jacks here. I mean, yeah,
jackson they can't go to the Jackets.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Go to the Jacks. No, I won't be.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
It won't be fun though, if he goes to Jacksonville,
Like it's kind of like, you know, a.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Career case, someone trade up for him, Like it.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Needs to be fun, Like it needs to be a
fun market for Travis Hunter since no quarterback, Like he
needs to go to like a New York market, Patriots
market like something like that.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Even Cleveland's better than Jacksonville. Is he the most talented
player in the draft, of course because he plays both ways,
so that's talent. Yeah, yeah, Well it's going to be exciting.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
It will be well but but he has to go
to a market where it's exciting as well. Like I said,
the Jaguars isn't really an exciting market. Even when the
Jaguars are good, it's still not, you know, that exciting,
Like it's just not on market that's exciting.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
I guess Jaguars having been exciting since Mark Bruneault retired.
You want to know what was excited though.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
You want to know what was exciting though, is when
I went to the Players Championship in Jacksonville a couple
of weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
That was exciting. Man.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I took a hack with my with my six iron
on the seventeenth hole, which they call it the Green Island.
Great shot. Five thousand fans around me. They were cheering,
and then the ball landed right in front of the island.
But still a great shot. You know, I was proud
of myself. So that's the coolest thing about Jacksonville is
the Players Championship at the TPC course right TPC TPC

(10:41):
And yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Trafsh Center probably could put it on that island. And
that's the Chillers Dude of the week.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
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Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yes, shout out Travis Hunter for being the Chillers Dude
of the week and also so the Freak of the
Year brought to you by Corps Light.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Let's get into these freaks.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Freaks, and we're gonna start with a former player, a
guy that everyone knows, a Hall of famer out there,
a guy that we play with with on New England.
About two years for you, two years for me, a
quarter season for myself, my rookie year in a quarter
for me. But everyone knows who he is. Randy freaking Moss.

(11:29):
Please pull the picture out. Randy Moss was an absolute
dominant force on the football field.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I didn't want to put him in the category right away.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I didn't want to describe the category. But the guy
had personality. Everyone loves him to this day. He's a
great TV's TV TV analyst now awesome on TV.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
He's mossing people still to this day with his segment.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
And you know that you know what this is, Rob,
You know the shots from No it's a shot from
This shot is from when he was leaving the players
parking lot.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I think on a Tuesday after he got fined for
mooning Green Bay. Remember he got fined for moving in
Green Bay. And this is like right immediately after, when
some reporter came up to him said, Randy, what do
you think about game fining?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
He says, straight cash homie. That's what Randy is.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
And that quote is still used to this great cash homie.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Great cash homie.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Whenever I pay anyone in cash, I always say straight
cash homeie.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Oh, every single time. That's going to live on forever.
How many years ago is that? That was a long
time ago?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Twenty No, it wasn't twenty How I was in high
school man when that happened.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
He was on the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Right, hey, he's in the Vikings at that time, So
that was like what five maybe four?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
I think we need to start this twenty years ago?
Did we start the top of the clock. Now, Rob's
got a little research that he's done. Now, Rob, how
did you get this research?

Speaker 3 (12:57):
I just typed in the player's name on co pilot
what type of you know, football player they are or
person they are? And it just popped up, and you know,
you gotta work smarter, not harder.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
You gotta work what it's all about it is, So
let's let's what is what did a co pilot?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
So this will also help out my reading skills.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
See dudes on dudes.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I mean, we're not the smartest dudes, Julian, but we're
also not the biggest idiots. I know, we have common
sense and we're here, you know, doing this show as
well to help us out in life as well.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I would say we're idiots. I would say we're idiots.
We're not dumb.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yes, yes, we are idiots in a good way though,
the best way.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
We're not like IQ gonna like knock you off the charts.
But you know, like we're also not going to spend
you know, like all your money. If you have like
two dollars, you're gonna spend fifty. That's like, yeah, exactly,
there you go. You hit it right on the nose.
And are reading skills I want to.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Say, are?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
You know, are terrible everyone out there? So this is
gonna help my reading skills. It's gonna help my creativity
doing this show as well. And that's why I wanted
to do it. I feel like it's gonna help us
out on Fox, you know, just being the talk.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
So we're billing muscles and we're also in the media
because we're going to use their AI.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
So here we go.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
We got we got Randy Moss, right, Yeah, Randy Moss
A right what? Randy Moss was a dynamic and explosive
wide receiver known for his exceptional speed, leaping ability, and
playmaking skills. His deep threat capability made him a constant
challenge for defenders, as he could stretch the field and
make spectacular catches. Moss was renowned, renowned, right, renowned for

(14:32):
his ability to make acrobatic catches and score touchdowns, earning
him earning him a reputation as one of the most
talented and dangerous receivers in the NFL. Over his career,
he was selected to multiple Pro Bowls and was a
key figure in the two thousand and seven New England
Patriots record setting offense.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
He was he was start the clock, start the clock.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
We got ten minutes, which each player that we will
be talking about first of them.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
That's pretty damn good by co pilot, Yeah, co pilot
the money and Rob I think he knocked it out
the park. I was a co pilot reading that. I know,
I think you were the actual pilot.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I was.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I was that actual pilot. No co pilot. You were.
You were there, but you weren't there. I was co
piloting by just sitting there. You were the passenger. I
was a passenger. Yes, you were. I was a passenger.
But who know who was the ride? It was freaking good.
It was freaky, yeah, which was also Randy's nickname. It
it was the freak. Randy went to you go, you

(15:36):
went to Marshall.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
There's so many crazy stories about he committed to Florida State,
then he went to Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Did you ever hear.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Those I never heard any of those stories. But he
ended up at Marshall University. Where is Marshall anyways, West Virginia.
It's in West Virginia. Yeah, And you know he's from Rand,
West Virginia, Like Randy Moss is from Rand, West Virginia.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
He used to say that all the time in practice.
Hey Rand, you Rand?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Do you remember?

Speaker 1 (16:03):
You would always say that like him and like who
else was from there? White chocolate was from there?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Who's white chocolate? I eat white? Who's white chocolate? Jason?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Teammates teammates in high school?

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Dude, he always loves to fish too, he he That
was the one thing you always knew about Muss in
the off season.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
You were never he was like a farm boy. Yeah, yeah,
he loved outdoors. You love fishing. Oh you know. I
was traumatized at a young age.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
My brother made me hold like two catfish when I
was like six years old, and he told me they
could sting you and they had big old tentacles, and
the fucking traumatized me. So not a big fisher. I
was like the kid wakeboarding. My brother was like the
fisher you fish.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Nah. I always got seasick every time we took that
boat out, yeah, you know, and they're like a mile
off of shore. I was always throwing up and like
really dizzy. So I never became a big fisherman. I
mean I had a pond behind my house growing up,
so I get like the sunny fish like that was cool,
but never really a big fishman. I eat fish, So
I like, what your favorite fish? Black and salmon? Black
and salmon, yeah, with some good spices on it. I

(17:07):
like a hall of it, nice light fish.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah. All right, Back to Randy. Back to Randy, what
hall of fame? What year was that? He went to
the Hall of Fame Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
That is was like twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen, it was.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
We won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
He was a twenty first overall pick, and he had
a lot of the there's a lot of like turbulence
in his early career, you know, in college and stuff,
which I always thought made Randy, you know, misunderstood.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
You know, he kind of what would you say.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
When he was in the locker room, Like he was
always a very caring dude, but he always had his
guard up. He always had his guard up, but like
on the low, he would always give you love. Like
for me when I was I was a rookie receiver.
I used to have to go out and buy all
the receivers like lunch whenever we would have a way trips.
Remember before the travel the rook he goes and grabs,

(18:01):
you know, something from Bar Louie or you go somewhere
you know, Jimmy Jones or something, and you get the order.
And Randy would always make me do it. But I
was a seventh rounder, so I wasn't I wasn't paid
by any means, and guys would be giving you crazy orders.
Randy would always throw me like three four hundred bucks.
He'd pay for it and make me go get it.
So like he was always he was just always quite
like he would kind of get on me in front

(18:23):
of people, but then when there was no one around,
he'd always loved me up. And like, you know, like
he I think he was just putting that on there
to make me, you know, make me accountable.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, for the for the you know quarter career, you
know quarter year I played with Randy. I thought he
was a great teammate man, and like you said, I
feel like he was misunderstood in the public eye a
little bit. He didn't really care about you know, the
glam and all that. He like, he just he just
rubbed it off his shoulders like like it was nothing,
like it was water man. But he cared about being

(18:52):
a good guy and he never thought he was too
big for anyone else. I mean, Randy was the best
wide receiver in the game at the time, maybe of
all time, and he cared about, you know, being relatable
to the young bucks. He did he made me feel
very warm and welcome. What do you do to the
New England Patriots when I was there?

Speaker 2 (19:10):
What he did to make you feel warm and on.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
So Moss always loved, you know, kicking it back, having
a conversation with myself. When I was a rookie, I
was struggling. I was in the playbook like crazy, he
struggling a little bit. But he just loved how I
played the game. And he always imitated me because I
was big, I was goofy, you.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Know, and he liked that kind of stuff, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
And every time I had a catch or you know,
had a touchdown, I'd be like myself, you know, I'd
be giggling like this. He'd be like, dude, bro, you
always giggling, you always having a good time, grink like.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
It's coolest shit, man, coolest shit. How you are man?

Speaker 3 (19:44):
And I'd be like it made me feel warm and
welcome to be myself on the Patriots. And I'd be
like I always did that on the field after I
get up, Like I don't know, that was just me.
I was getting hype and Moss was like, man, I
like how you do this?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Man? I like like that cool shit? How you do that?
Like I'm go do that.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
After I school a touchdown, I was like for real,
He's like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to do that. So
what happened game I think game number two, Buffalo versus Buffalo.
He scored like, you know, forty yarder post right down
the middle, like you know, like Randy Moss does. Because
his fastest wide receiver I probably ever seen play the
game freakish you know, stride.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
It looked like he was going slow, it looked like
but he was just always passing people and he was
just gliding.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
It was like a jet ski on water, like on
like flat service, just gliding seven.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yes. And it didn't look.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Like he was going seventy no, but he was going
seventy maybe.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Eighty on water, which is fast. Yes.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
So we get to the game. He scores that touchdown
and he starts doing this like exactly. Yeah, He's being
gronk in the end zone. And I'm twenty one years
old and this is Randy Moss, fricking Moss imitating me
after one of his touchdowns, and I thought it was
the coolest thing. I actually never even shared that story
with anyone. I'm not even I'm talking like, I never

(20:59):
shared that story with a friend and a family member.
It's just kind of known within the team, you know,
within the team and the organization. So that's one of
the coolest stories of all time. You know about Randy
Massa I have personally and he just made me feel
welcome to the team. Uh, And he just made me
feel like myself because he just loved how I was
and how I played the game. And it was just

(21:20):
a special moment, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
He fucked with dudes that worked hard. He like I
remember on Tuesdays, he would come in and do these
workouts where he would do like side step ups, these
like uh step ups, quick feet, and so I would
jump in with him every once in a while and
he'd do all these medicine ball things where like he'd
have like one leg on a medicine ball and do
like a push up, and you know, he was working

(21:43):
your core. And so I would always I would always
see him do shit, and then I would go do it.
You know, I want to do what everything anything Randy did.
But like if he saw you working, he never really
busted your balls. That's kind of got you know. But
if you weren't, if you were you know, if you
were talking and you were a guy that wasn't hurt
or something like any other Patriots, any of the patriot
like guys, you know you're gonna hear shit.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
You want to know, you want to also know why.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I would say Randy was misunderstood a little bit because
he was real. Yeah, and when people are real, people
don't like that man, because one can sound like ashle
Yeah exactly, it sounds assholey, like if he didn't want
your freaking food, he's not going to eat your food
like you just didn't want it, you know, if he
didn't like you, he didn't like you, like, it's just

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real shit. And then that's what makes people misunderstood.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I still can't fathom that Thanksgiving game that he had.
What was the screenshot of of his.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Well, he had three catches, like one hundred and forty
six yards.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Was sixty three yards on sixty.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Three yards, oh and three touchdowns. All his catches were
over fifty yards. It was when he was with the
Minnesota Vikings Thanksgiving Day. He ate the turkey after the
game as well. Yeah, it was just Moss being Moss. Well,
Randy was so special that we actually had a play named.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
After him, Moss. Yeah, Moss us Hoss Moss, which was
the Moss signal.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
That was the signal because it was all goes, there
was a go on the left, there was a seam
on the left, there was a seam on the right.
And every time Brady did that, I got excited because
I was always the slack guy going down the field,
so Moss. Every time I saw that play, I thought
of Moss and just felt like I had to turn
the burners on as well.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Rub You had how many What was your biggest touchdown season?

Speaker 3 (23:23):
I had seventeen touchdowns in twenty twelve, but eighteen because
one of them counted as a rush.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Eighteen touchdowns. He had twenty three touchdowns. How fucking nuts?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Is freaking nuts. I don't think anyone's ever going to
touch that. I don't know what the eighteen I don't
think anyone's going to touch it.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Still will because guys aren't playing as many games, like
they don't play the whole season.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, I mean, that's.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Not the reason why. I think just because Moss was
just so dominant twenty three touchdowns. Because when you have
twenty three touchdowns, Moss was only one who can get
away from double coverage and then run away from because
he was so fast and freaky. Ain't no one ever
gonna touch that? Twenty three touchdown record. I mean, I
was pretty close that one year when I had seventeen.
And then actually he was at practice one of my

(24:10):
best training camps of all time, when we were in
West Virginia. Moss came whatever at that dump lay at Greenboro.
It's great for football. Coaches loved it because all you
did was focus on football.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
But he can't go to the casino, though, is fucking bullshit.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Good thing we would have lost all our money or
won a lot more money, and then had could have
retired in training camp. But Moss was there when we
were facing the Saints in practice and I was dominant. Man.
This was a year I was on fire, unstoppable. It
was actually the year we won the Super Bowl versus
Atlanta when I was unstoppable, and it was just unfortunate

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that I got lit up up the middle of that year.
But I had like four touchdowns in a row versus
Saints and seven on seven and Moss was right there,
and I was like, Boss, I'm coming for you.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Man.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
That touchdown record is my go Gronk. You got it, boy.
You're the only one. Gronk, You're the only one that
can beat my touchdown record. Rock you got this boy.
I want to see you do I go, Moss, I
am gonna do a buddy, I'm coming for twenty three,
no problem. I mean, it was kind of realization at
that time. I was dreaming big, but it was just

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so cool to have Moss right there talking shit to
Randy Moss I'm gonna beat his touchdown record in the
middle of practice. Like was one of the coolest moments
I've ever had in practice at Moss, you the man.
And the freakiest catch I've ever seen Moss make that
I will still remember for I will remember for the
rest of my life is the Reevius catch. It was

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the second game. It was the second game of the season.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
That was my first start.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
It was so when he did the imitation of me.
It was actually the first game of the season. I
think we played No.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
This was was that that was I don't think you
were there yet. No, I was there.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
So we played the We played Cincinnati my very first game.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah. Then we went to the Jets. We lost.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Most freakiest catch I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
We lost the game.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, we lost a game. Uh, Brady just tossed it
up there. He let the play developed. No one was
open so he tossed it up one on one coverage
Moss verus dreld Reeves, the best cornerback in the game.
Moss put his hand up in the air and just
snagged it one hander right in the end zone, about
three yards in. It was freaky because he extended all

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the way. It wasn't like it was like close to
his body heat made that extensions effortless.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
It looked like he barely did it that when he
was going, He's just like eh.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
And then oh, and then we played the Buffalo Bills
a third game, and that's when he did the imitation
imita imitating me, oh no, myself, the gronk giggles. And
then we played the Miami Dolphins the fourth game of
the season. And then after that game he went there.
He wasn't there anymore.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
It was sad. It was.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
You want to know something, Jules, Oh, I remember it, man,
I remember it. We were we were partying man when
he got traded. Were we It was Monday night, you
know us, we were young bucks man. We went to Foxwoods,
the casino, and we.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Walked in Monday.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
No, no, it was a Monday.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
It was a Monday night game. So to be able
to buy weekend we had.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
I think we had a bye week or something because
we went to Foxwoods Tuesday night because it was industry
night at Foxwoods, and you know us, we're in the
industry of partying at that time. We were maniacs. We
were maniacs.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Were this dudes and dudes.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Man, We're just having the conversation, you know, we're just
telling our stories, just living up, you know we did
in the past. And I remember we were together, man,
and you were you were pretty hungover, I remember, and
I was hungover too, and we turned on the TV.
We didn't know anything what was going on, and we
turned on the tv ESPN and Randy Moss there it

(27:53):
was breaking news traded to the Minnesota vikings, and literally
we were like heartbroken. We were hungover and are broken.
It was probably the worst situation you could be in. Yeah, yeah,
but we always climb out of those holes.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
That was. But uh, I talked about talk about the
Sunday scaries. Yeah, that was.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
That was the Tuesday morning scaries right there.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
You wake up, you know, oh fuck, we got to
practice is gone.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
That was one of the examples of of my early
times in my career that I was starting to learn
that the NFL was a business. Oh yeah, because as
a rookie, you don't know that it's a business. You
know you're gonna make the team. You think you're playing forever.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
You can't trade Rainy trade Rainy, can't.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Trade Randy Moss. She's the greatest of all time. And
it was really cool though, because he did that press
conference I think the week before, like he wants a
new deal. He had his headphones around his neck, he
kind of he kind of went off like the Patriots
ain't giving me my new contract. And I thought that
was really cool because that's the Randy Moss I knew,
like going off, just just being.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
A real dude. Yeah, And I love that shit.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
I love when players act up man, and I thought
it was the coolest thing. So it was sad to
see him go. But it was also sad because that
was part of the reason I feel like he went.
You know, Bill Is takes no shit.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
He doesn't.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
But that's when you're reckon you realize that this is
definitely a business.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
All right. So some final thoughts Randy Moss. What kind
of dude is Randy Mustin? Yeah, what kind of dude
is he?

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I would say, so, we have a stud at like
athleticism football IQ, the pedigree. We have the freak unparalleled
physical ability, one of one, pretty much a mutant that
sounds pretty close. We have a dog who's relentless motivated,
physical and mental toughness. We got the whiz dude whose

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intellect innovative, very clutch. And we got a dude's dude,
positive attitude, locker room guy, calm cool, collect glue guy.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
He's like a glue guy. Dude's dude.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
And let me tell you, every dude that we're going
to be talking about hit all of them.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
They hit them all.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Their attributes are all five of them. But we're trying
to find the one that exemplifies them the most. And
with Randy Moss, it's easy. I feel like this is
a no brainer, no brainer, no brainer. It's already in
his nickname, the freak, the freak.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
I mean he was I remember, he's just so fast.
He was so he could jump, he he he could
catch the ball. The intricacies of the game where like
that were you would try to coach the guys, like
late hands and stacking the receiver, like those are the
things that like we would try to coach.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
He just did it naturally.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
That's like how he like, he just knew how to
judge a ball and high point balls like he We
literally have segments named after him going up and just
mossing dudes.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
And the way he like the ability he had to
just leap when he was running full speed. It's crazy
is what made him so great because he can have
a defender on him, because defenders just as fast as them.
Some of them were some of the DB's.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Hey man, you remember he used to challenge Slate all
the time, but every once in.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
A while there there was a guy that you know,
it was kind of covering, but what did he do.
He just leaped right over him like a frog and
made the catch. And that's what made him so freaky.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's so crazy to think, like you're when you're running
full speed and you got to track a ball, your
eyes are bouncing like that's like some of the first
things you see, like when from your like off season
training and you jump into like you know, start competing
against guys, the first thing that you always have to
dial in is the bouncy eyes. My eyes would bounce

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and I'm going, like a guy to go full speed
and be able to concentrate and then like effort, see
like a ballerina, jump off one leg, go back mass
a dude over to Like that's that's a freak. He's
a freak.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
I remember, Jules, like you used to always Brad Moss
would do it. So I'm doing it so like right
after the games, like when you landed from an away game,
he would go right to the weight room to get
his workout in.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
And you've been Marshalls doing it.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
I'm going to do it, you know, like you copied
everything he did.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Hey man, but I don't blame you. Man, he's the
greatest of all time. I'll copy him, Tom, anyone who
was around. I'm copying West copy Katlee. All Right, you
loved your dudes. You love hanging on your dudes. You
because one dude you wanted the dude on. You become
a creature of the dudes you hang around. That's the truth,

(32:33):
you know, you become a dude of the dudes. That's
why he keeps around.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Podcasts, you know, because I've been hanging out with you Jewels,
and you have your podcast, so I wanted to part.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Now it's just dude dribbing off on dudes. So we did.
Randy Moss all right, freak of nature, freak, no doubt.
He's a freak dude, no question. Let's get on.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Vince will Fork, big dog, Vince well four, big v
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I wonder why something thanks something the Black Thanksgiving is
his favorite holiday.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
I bet start the clock. What's hey? I gotta say.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Vince Wilfork standy had six foot two and weighing around
three hundred and twenty five pounds, played as a dominant
nose tackle in the NFL, primarily I think he was
like three fifty at one point in sixty primarily played
for the New England Patriots and later for the Houston Texans.
Growing up in boy Town Beach, Florida, I think so Boyton, Boyton,
boy Tom Beach, Florida, will Fork was a track and

(33:30):
field standout before switching to football at the University of Miami.
Selected twenty first overall in the two thousand and four draft,
he was known for his strength, size, and ability to
stuff the run, often drawing double teams and anchoring defenses
with his power and scale. Over his career, will Fork
recorded five hundred and sixty tackles sixteen sacks and three interceptions,

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earning two Super Bowl championships five Pro Bowl selections in
a reputation as one of the best defense tackles of
his era. Known for his charisma and a love for
a barbecue, he has remained a beloved figure off the field,
where he's big personality and big hits made him a
fan favorite. That's a lot by Ai. The long synopsis.
That's the longest one we had so far. But Vince

(34:12):
deserves it. Yeah, deserves it. He's the biggest guy so
far we've been talking about. He's about three hundred and
sixty five pounds. I think they got it got it
wrong there.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
This guy can eat you up. Man.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
He's lost a lot of weight now, he sure has.
He looks really good, man, He really good. It looks
good on him. It's just sad that you know he's
not coming back though, you know, because every good player
you always have that imagination that they're going to come back.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
He never he always thought I think ve can still play.
You just have that thought about him. What's the first
thing that comes to your mind when you think about
Big v The barbecues.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
You know, he came out with his own barbecue saw
some pretty sure. Mister Kraft used to have that team
get together, team bonding at his house in the Cape
after you made the team. It was right at the
end of August. What howadays at right then?

Speaker 2 (35:00):
I guess Labor Day?

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah, Labor Day yep, and uh it was Labor Day week.
And we would all go up there and there'd be
ribs or be you know, steaks, and then here comes
Big V coming through and he brings his own barbecue
sauce every single year. And I wouldn't eat those ribs
or the soar line or you know, the burger meat
until that barbecue sauce got there. And once Big V

(35:22):
showed up, Hey, Big V passed that sauce over, buddy.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
He loved it too, man, He loved being known about
that sauce. And he just loved just the atmosphere around
a cookout.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
For I was fortunate enough to get invited to one
of his cookouts. He smoked some ribs. He was in
some big ass overalls with no shirt smoking ribs. He
just looks at home when he's on the barbecue. He
looks like that's he's at home. The first I remember
when I was a rookie he's comfortable. That's just comfort
zone for him.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
It is.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I remember my rookie year, My welcome to the NFL
moment was like I was rolling in, like my my
Toyota rental, and I park it in the way back
of the players a lot, and all of a sudden,
there's this fucking huge semi a fucking semi truck rolls
in and parks up right in the front and takes
like two damn spots backs in backs in this big

(36:16):
ass orange semi truck. It's fucking Vince's daily driver. Vince
had like a huge semi truck daily driver. He gets
out of thinking and it looked just like him in
front of the barbecue, just a comfort zone for him.
Just a big ass dude getting out of a big
ass truck.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Big v was just fucking so cool. That was like
my first welcome bed and I was like, holy shit,
I didn't even know you could buy semi trucks.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Well, speaking of welcome to the NFL, he gave me
my Welcome to the NFL dosage of a.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Hit Wooden training camp rookie year.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
You know the WAM block.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
What's the WAM block? Explained where they let.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Go the guy let go. That's the just defensive tackle free,
so then he thinks he's gonna go get a sack.
And then a wam block is when I come across
the line of scrimmage the tight end position, when I'm
off the ball, and I'm the one that goes, and
I wham the defensive tackle and try to block the
trap for this tight end. There you go exactly and
we're trapping the defensive tackle, so he knows it's coming.

(37:12):
I mean, this is a specialty play that the New
England Patriots been running. N they know the fucking script
well before me. Yeah it is. It was it was
at nine nine seven, So yeah, the defense does know
the script, so they can look really good in the
run game throughout that whole period. And I think they
also told them this play was coming, uh being specifically
knowing I'm on the black, Vince, and they wanted to

(37:34):
see my toughness as a rookie. So the play is
called I'm in full pass. You know, I'm wam block.
I gotta show my toughness, I gotta show my keeps.
I gotta get the respect of my fellow teammates, especially
the veterans.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Wait then you paint the picture. Also, Rob's a rookie here.
Vive was like the big dog on campus. In practice,
no one really gets close to him because you don't
want to piss him off. When you're new, you know,
it's like, holy shit, is that a that is a
large human being. He's like so big, I think there's
like something that orbits him, like on how round he is?

(38:08):
Like that's you didn't want to get in his way.
He didn't want to piss him off because he was
very intimidating. Get back to your story.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
So the play, you know, gets on its way. I
do my little you know, two side steps.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
You know, on the motion. I'm running full speed right
at Vince Wolford. This guy peeks over to his left,
he sees me coming. He has this grin on his face.
Knowing I was coming, he put his shoulder down. I'm
going full speed at him, and he gets that leverage
and just tease.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Off on me. I went flying backwards five to six yards.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
I didn't even land on my back. He sent me
flying in the air where I landed on my feet still,
Oh my god. Yeah, and that hit hurt like a
mother effort. But what's cool is I gained the respect
to my teammates and my coach at that time, tight
end coach, in that meeting that day when we went
and reviewed the players. Brian farrens, love you, Brian FARRENC.

(39:04):
He's now at Iowa with his dad doing, you know,
doing his thing, doing a good job. He goes, Yo,
what were you thinking trying to block Vince Wolf for
He goes, You're never gonna do that again. I go,
thank you, thank you. I go, I'll never do it again.
And ever since that day, you know, we had about
five more of those calls, and I just go up
to him. I hug him. I didn't need to try
to block him. It was just only gonna get me

(39:26):
hurt from there on out. Yeah, I just give him
a hug like Vince No, no, it's the way I'm
black man. I know you're gonna beat me, like, there's
there's no reason to go through this motion of me
getting thrown backwards again. Oh my god, I'm gonna break
a rib.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
He's so, he's so you love your ribs, and you're
gonna you know, you probably eat him, yeah, and join
him after with your barbecue sauce. Body. Oh my, that
had to be so terrifying. It was, well at that time,
it was intimidating. Guy, was when you joined the team.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Too terrifying after that because I was trying to you know,
gainer my keeps and like I was trying to prove myself,
so I didn't care who was in my way. And
then I learned, I do care who's in my way. Yeah,
and when when it comes down to the NFL, you
gotta that's when you learned on when to you know,
take your shots at someone and went not to when
to block someone hard when the kind of like just

(40:16):
box someone out as well, instead of trying to hit
him full speak and you hit him full speed heads up.
They you know, they're way bigger than you. This is
when you start learning the ins and outs. And that's
one ins and out. I learned big time.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Freaking v And he was so quick too, Like that's
what people don't realize, like they just surprisingly quick because
of how big he was and his feet. You had
fast feet.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Man. He was kind of like a running back that
pitter patters, Like whoa big burp right there? Juels. Wow
was the barbecue I ate from five years ago with
big vans and still going out. We ate that much.
I tasted that barbecue sauce right that that was good.
But his feet were surprisingly click.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
He was like boom. He was a rabbit out there.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I remember he's going in the weight room and you
go over by like the kettlebells and like the arm
bars and stuff, and they're always be a shock put there.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Remember him? You ever see him shotput?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
And I never have.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Oh my god, he can fucking shock. He was a
fucking track star. I think he had like the state record.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
He had insane strength too.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
I remember like he wouldn't go in the weight room
to just like warm up, you know, do three fifteen
like five. He would just go in the weight room
just to you know, maintain his strength. And he would
just walk in and I remember him just throwing up
like four hundred and twenty five pounds in the bench
and just tossing it up then racking it and be
like I'm done for to day. Yeah, Like he didn't

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even need to work on his strength that much because
he was just that strong naturally, and like it was
to a whole nother level.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
I remember seeing him in the weight room toom he
like Marcus Cannon when he would work out, the weights
would bend.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
He was just so strong, and he had always great
movement like he was very He was very skillful, like
fluid fluid. Like when you watch big V throw football,
he looks like like he spins the ball really well.
You see him hit a golf ball. He fucking has
an unbelievable golf swing. I mean, the guy is so athletic.
He used to return punch in high school.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Like I remember, you know, Bill, Always every training camp
when it's getting to like day nine ten, guys who
are worn down, beat up mentally, physically, emotionally exhausted, he'd
always have a big lineman come in and try to
catch him punt, and if you caught punch, you'd have
the night off.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
He threw v up there, and it looked too fucking easy.
I think he went in snagged.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
That thing was. He was so athletic. He could have
played full back. I swear he could play running back
and it gets gained some yards before going down tight end.
He could definitely play I heard him talking about this
too as well. He could play defensive end obviously, anywhere
on the defensive line, and he, like you said, quarterback
as well.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
He had an arm.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
He loved being you know, before practice was going on,
you know, before we get really got into it, he'd
be chucking the ball, you know, to his fellow defensive players,
just having a good old time.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
He was just so disruptive as well.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
And he was kind of like the two gap god
when he was, you know, on that defensive line and
that being able to take two gaps. You know how
much stuff freeze that linebacker. That's a linebacker's best friend
right there, Vince Walford, I.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Mean, Drod Mayo, Dante high Tower, Jamie Cult they all
love them.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
They all do it.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
And guys like they love guys that take double teams.
Lets you get to that fucking kind of Big V
just said. Big V has so many stats. He had
so much production for the amount of stats he had
because he had such hidden things that made plays go.
It was unblockable, and you take two double teams, they
can never get the guy to the second level. Like

(43:38):
he just was fucking a monster. And we wanted to
talk about him on this show specifically because.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Because what is he known for on Thanksgiving Jules, He's
the one that created the butt, the but the force,
the generator, of the butt fumball versus the New York
Jets Sanchez, Oh.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
My god, and he did that before, like he it's
where he gets so much penetration.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
He drives his guy back so far that it hit
the quarterback with the guy that he was driving backs.
But that made him fumble the football and Steve Gregory
scoop score in his home area of New Jersey, which
was just a fucking crazy game. That comes to my
mind when I think events of some of his crazy stories.

(44:33):
But also remember when we were in Buffalo and he
read out the receivers run. What was he rewarded with?

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Though? After that he had the turkey on the post game,
he had the turkey leg. He had the turkey leg.
He rewarded with a turkey leg during the post game
for his contribution to the butt fumble.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
And he ate that thing. He ate it all, not surprise.
So what was it that you were talking about in Buffalo?

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Remember in Buffalo where they had that receiver screen and
v reddit and he was full full speed and a
receiver was full speed not seeing him, and it looked
like it looked like if a semi hit like one
of those little smart cars.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Oh my gosh, this this is the receiver. Like he
was up, he was up, and them like your finger
just got bent backwards in matter of a split second.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Boom.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
That looked like the receiver right there.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Boom. It's not even that. It's not even the mass.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Imagine if he like fell on you going that fast
like a bug, like a fucking bug, I bet you
got his.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
W out of the air and it just explodes everywhere.
That's kind of what happened to the Bills wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
And you always they flattened him, No, it was it
was that's a terrifying hit. Like that's like, that was
a terrifying hit. There's a lot of big hits that
you see. You're like, all right, you can you can
winstand that. But when it's it's straight physics. When you
got mass times velocity, you get forced, you get fucking force.
And that's what big V was. I don't know if

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that's right for you physics people, get us in there.
But then also what about what about his interceptions. We're
talking big plays here. I mean he had that that
pick versus Philip Rivers at home in Gillette Stadium when
he was at another screen or he was just I
think he was it got tipped or somebody. Yeah, did
he tip it? Did he tip it?

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah, he tipped it to himself. He showed great ball
skills right there.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
And then then you saw your fast feet. Yes, and
then he.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Started just you know, trucking down the field like a
rabbit with his fast feet. He looked nimble, and he
looked agile and just rumbling down the field.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
I don't think anyone in the world that watched that play,
anyone in the world didn't want that big man to
score when a big man has because the ball looked
like a fucking like, uh, a paper talent is in
his armpit, a loaf of bread. I mean it looked
pumper nickel, pumper nickel. It looks so small, and he's

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like running it, and like everyone is just sitting.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
There, like, look at the big big go reminds me
of or calmly also did that and they kick off return.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Packers. I love big man get.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Read or score a touchdown a soldier, everyone loves it.
Man Soldier had that one. The Lions are doing it
a lot Lions are doing it. We're speaking of Thanksgiving,
you know, teams lions in there. You know, don't don't
not expect a trick play to alignment this Thanksgiving from
the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
I mean a fake punt. You're gonna, You're gonna. There's
gonna be something like that. We we talked about on
this show a few weeks back. Tight End University Day
or Happy tight End Day? What is called National tight
End Day?

Speaker 2 (47:37):
National tight End There's got to be a national big
guy touchdown Day or a big guy catch Day. It
just needs to be national.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Bing Like it's a rule in the NFL book that
you have to at least run one tackle eligible, play.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
One tackle eligible. The guy has to be over two
and seventy five pounds eighty five pounds, has to touch
the football on one specific day National big Fat Guy did.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I like that? That's what I think.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
We like that. Who's gonna start it?

Speaker 2 (48:09):
I think we need Big V. Yeah, Big V, come on,
let's go. You remember in the Butt Football Game.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I remember watching it the next day in meetings, Bill
rewinded it like four or five times, barely said anything,
and then like got up and talked and he said,
the Jets got exactly what they deserved. Like, did something
like one of those you know what do you remember that.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
I actually was hurt that year duel. So I was
at home just watching it from my couch, just enjoying
my Thanksgiving, and I just remember that play happening. I
was shocked because we were already dominating that, dominating, dominating them.
It wasn't even a close game at all. And just
when that happened, I was giggling to myself, like what
a play. I never seen anything like that. And I

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was screaming too, because Gregory just scooped it, like it
just didn't happen, a butt fumble and directly new No,
directly on the ground and directly in the Gregory's hand.
But it went to the end zone of the Patriots
as well. We got six points out of it. It's
like it doesn't happen usually usually like a play like that,
you know, usually someone just gets on it and it's
a fumble recovery. It went to the house. We scored

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on it.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
How do you think Sanchois or san Chito feels about that.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
I mean, Sanchiz is a good dude, is a goofy dude,
so I think he kind of likes it.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
I think he does owns it. Yeah, yeah, he does.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Own it for sure. He'll giggle about it, for sure.
It's kind of like the Miami miracle. I own that play. Yeah,
He's kind of like the butt fumble with Sanchez. I
mean it's okay.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
I mean, it happens. It's kind of like the two
thousand and four or two thousand and two frosh Off
championship between the Bee Di Division Ocean Division.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
You know, I gave this interception away and they won
it on it. It's kind of like you own it now,
fucking him. I'll never own it.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
It's bullshit.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
It's okay, jus, one day you'll own It'll get over it.
It's okay, man, we're here for it.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Just be thankful for other things and then you'll get
over that. You know what. I'm also thankful for.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
What are you thankful for that we were a part
of probably two of the craziest play calls in the
history of football.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Won the butt fumble? Yes, what's more embarrassing the butt fumble?
Or do you remember when the Colts had that stupid
punt formation that they tried it?

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Sad was fourth and two and they were trying to
get us on a trick more than four. It was
a weird formation they had, like everyone spread out wide
and then the center was down in distance and then
there was a running back behind the center or something,
and then they hiked it and everyone was in like in.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Shock, like what that going?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
And that's the only reason I bring this up is
because the same shock factor that we had that like,
did that but just make that fumble and then we
scored a touchdown. That same shock factor is the same
shock factor we had when they did this punt form
mation thing.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Did he really hiked the ball?

Speaker 1 (51:03):
I'm not a math guy, but three on one, I'm
looking at the Colt sideline right here after the play.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Are you fucking serious?

Speaker 3 (51:11):
What is this? Like? This is National Football League and
they're only down by six in the third quarter.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
I don't know that's the Colts for you?

Speaker 3 (51:20):
That was that was worse than the buff fumble.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, because that's made through force in gravity exactly. The
butt fumble was made by Vince in that fucking three
hundred and twenty five pound frame, twenty five pound frame,
taking his matchup and driving him into the fucking.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
I'm flabber acid. I didn't realize we were going to
get into that play. I think they rose the banner
that year.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
That's why I never lost.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Was that the banner year they rose?

Speaker 3 (51:52):
They never lost to the Colt.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Did we ever lose to the Colts? I did in
two thousand and nine four two, Yeah, so it doesn't count.
How about the big boy on Body Issues? I mean
he's he's not like it looks like muscle.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
It is muscle. That's why I love the ESPN the
Body Issue because they they featured everyone.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah, it's and they're just showing how were you on it?
The statue?

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Yes, how the statue of the body representing all different
types of athletes, from a guy that played tackle to
a wide receiver to myself right there? Young, You want
to know the running joke was about me, I'm being
on the Body Issue cover?

Speaker 2 (52:32):
What was that?

Speaker 3 (52:33):
The circle? It was really small that they needed to use.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
What circle?

Speaker 3 (52:38):
The cover? Me out?

Speaker 5 (52:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (52:41):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (52:42):
I didn't they tell you it was going to be
a small set, like there's not gonna be a lot
of people there.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
There really wasn't. There's probably like five, five or six.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
How many people were on your I feel like there's
thirty in mine, really thirty. I wanted to see you
Juels you're a good looking guy.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
I did a wonderful body.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Now, how did the how did the football stay on?

Speaker 3 (52:59):
It's a good question. I was kind of adjusting it
before every shot, and then I kind of adjusted it,
so I kind of found that niche.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Did you take a to keep that thing staked up
so you could just post it on there?

Speaker 3 (53:12):
No? No, it was actually one of the worst performance
looking days of my life. It was kind of chilly
in there. I felt like I felt like a frozen raisin. Yeah,
and I was just giggling at myself every time I
look back at the pictures.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
It was bad.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Yeah, it was bad.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
It was bad. I was embarrassed just looking at it myself.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
It was crazy because like you would see like a
picture after you know, you'd go with the photographer and
your your wiener would be out and you'd see the
picture and then all of a sudden they'd be like, Oh,
don't worry, we could just cut that.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Yeah, but you're sitting there worrying because you're like, you're
gonna go tell everyone you know, and then that person
that's reviewing request three degrees in.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
The shoot set it was ten minutes. What kind of
dude is Vince will Fork stud a freak, a dog,
a dude's dude, or a whiz. I mean, he's a waist.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
He has a lot of intellectual and knowledge of the
game of football. I mean he was a smart player.
That's why he knew that big play that he made
when we were talking about it versus Buffalo Bills, and
he absolutely dominated the receiver on that screen across the
middle because he saw that play coming. He sniffed it
out like he was a wizard out there. That's how
he made majority of his plays. Same with his interceptions.

(54:34):
He knew the screen was coming, he backed off. He
knew that when he got dropped, he wasn't going to
just go to the quarterback and get a free sack.
He knew there must be a different type of play coming.
Oh it's going to be a screen or it's a
gimmick or something. I mean, he was smart, bro, He
was very smart on that football field, I'm telling you.
I mean, yeah, he was a freak for his size,
I mean three sixty, just the way that he.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Could move, his athletic ability.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Kind of a dude's dude as well, with his barbecues,
man inviting the guy over, having that barbecue sauce for everyone.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
He's also a fucking dog. Yeah, he was a dog.
He was grimy in there.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Oh yeah, when you're the guy taking the double team
the whole time, and you know you have to go
getting six hundred pounds every fucking play because he's taking
double teams every play, six hundred pounds.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
And he would take those double teams and kind of
just eat those double teams up, he really would, and
just let that linebacker just free to go in and
make the place.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
And he's a fucking stud is ATLTUS. He is, man,
I mean, he could shoot a basketball. He I mean,
he's insane thrower of the football. You watch his golf swing,
You're like, holy fuck, I think he's scratched golf.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
This is a true tough one. Man.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
This is really tough to really categorize and pinpoint Vince
Wolfork to just one category.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Man, it's gonna be tough on three. What do you
expect one?

Speaker 5 (55:47):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Man, hold on, let me keep thinking about this, man.
Oh alright, alright.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
One, two, three? Fuiz ah man. Man.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
I know, man, he is a freak though, but he's
he's so smart. Man, I'm telling you, he's a smart
football player.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Yeah, but that goes into his freakiness where you think
a guy that looks like him isn't smart.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
He's great.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
He's great in commercials too, like you see him in
that stove commercial now, like grilling and all that, he's
on TV. But you also just sitting there like smart
large gotta be smart large guy right now. That, like
we said, we're categorizing freaks. As you're just looking at someone,
you're like, how can they possibly do it? That size?
Also also like fet can we say, yeah, he's he's

(56:34):
a wizard though, Can you agree with that?

Speaker 1 (56:36):
I mean I always, I mean Bill talking about how
smart he is a football player instinctive.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
So I do agree he is a freak of nature.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
I mean obviously to be that size, to move, you know,
to move that well on the football field, take on
double teams and just squash him, just the way he
tackled guys too. They would go right down. There was
no mistackles by Vince Wallfork when he got your hands.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
On you, No, so drape you down and he's swallow you.
All right, We'll try again. Let's do it again. One two, three,
freak stamp it. Let's move on to our next guest.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
So, oh Dix in inertial wave are collaborating with Rob
What is that? Am I accepting this collaboration?

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Oh Dick sporting good? Yeah jesus, But it says Dick's
an inertial wave.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Like this is getting raunchy, but it kind of goes
with Shannon Sharp instagram lives.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
So make sure those Instagram.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Lives are turned off right now, ladies and gentlemen, because
we don't.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Know what may happen. Start the clock. What's a I
gotta say about? Oh Shannon? Oh, Shannon shop.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Shannon Sharp is renowned as one of the greatest tight
ends in NFL history, known for his exceptional athoughticism and
competitive spirit off the field, He is admired for his
character off the field. He is for his charismatic personality
and dedication to the community service. That was community service
on the Instagram life made a lot of people happy,

(58:09):
a lot of people happy, A lot of people got happy,
Yeah they sure did. And entertainment too. Entertainment, Hey, that's
community service, shaving the community. Yes, it sure is all right.
We're getting a little yeah Nowy Sharp made a significant
impact on the Denver Broncos in Baltimore Ravens, winning three
Super Bowl titles and becoming a key player in their offenses.

(58:31):
He was the first tight end to surpass ten thousand
receiving yards. I don't even have ten thousand receiving yards.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
And this was back in the day.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Beastly and held the records for most receptions, receiving yards,
and touchdowns by a tight end at the time of
his retirement. Sharp's post retirement career as a sports analyst
has further solidified his influence in the football world. And
he's not just a analysts in the football world either.
He's an analyst in all of sports, which she is

(59:00):
like he's he is broad in his his fan base
big time by you know, breaking down basketball, basketball, breaking
down breaking what badminton if he had to, dude, this
guy can do it all in the broadcasting world.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
When he went up with Skip him and Skip like
he could battle him, he could talk.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
I mean, there's no that's he's famous for a reason,
not just his his podcast, Uncle Shay Shay and and
everything that he's got going this Guys like you could
tell he's a fucking smart guy.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
He looks like he can still play. He sure does.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
He looks like a linebacker now as well, he looks
like he's Jack. He can go out there and just
level fools and just get right back up. He is jacked.
And I think he posted an instagram within the year
of him benching still and I think it was like
three eighty five.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
It was around there.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Don't quote me the exact way, but it was right
around there. And he put it up like five times
as well. She's he's huge Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I watched a lot of the films and the miked
up and stuff. Yeah, he could talk some ship He's
one of the shark could talk.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Some He is the biggest ship talking tight end in
NFL history, without doubt, no doubt about that. How about
when he when he came to uh Foxborough one of
the old stadium back in the day, obviously he was
playing in the nineties, uh and he picked up the phone,
the red phone.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
And no one picks up the red phone.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
No one. You get your ass busted if you pick
up that phone. But hey, hey someone called the president.
Where what did he say, exactly? We just someone called
the president. We're killing the patriots, sonning the troops then
something like that. It was right along that those lines
right right, Yeah, we are killing the Patriots, Senate. Someone

(01:00:51):
called the president.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
We are killing the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
And this is back before like talking to the cam
like now we see players always talking to the camera
on the sideline or before a game, pregame, postgame like
shee and Sharp was an innovator of a lot of that,
Like when you get you see the guys warming up
in the warm ups and stuff. He'd always engaged the
camera like and let you know he's about to run

(01:01:15):
up all of your ass in the game that week
and start talking to the fans.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
He's fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
He is crazy. I mean he has wide receiver bill
because I think he was drafted as a wide receiver
as well as he Yeah, he was, and then he
put on some weight. Obviously you got to put on
weight if you're drafted as a wide receiver went to
the tight end position. But that kind of explains why
he was such a great route runner because he was
a receiver coming into the NFL. And uh, that kind
of explains why he's so jacked as well, because he

(01:01:43):
had that skinny frame and then he had to hit
the weights hard. There's no doubt about it. He has
like this down hill speed. Like when he gets going
he catches that ball, he's gone. When he catches he's gone.
He's a freak run by. Yeah, he is a freak,
no doubt a little.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
He kind of a freak.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
I don't I don't even think we got a debate
at Yeah, and I think he's a freak no matter what.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Well we know he's a freaking the sheet.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Yeah it is. I mean that Instagram Live back to
the Instagram Live real quick. You think it was set up?
I mean, I mean to get into Instagram Live, you
have to open up your phone. Your face has to
be recognized or you gotta put your password, and you
gotta hit Instagram. Then you got to hit like the
story but and then you got to move over to
the right and hit Instagram Live. And then when you
hit that, it says are you sure you want to

(01:02:25):
go live? And then you got to hit yes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
I mean, I still think it's an accident. It's a girl.
It was an accident. Was it a girl or was
he live before? I don't know the story live.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Before and accidentally put his phone down. I'm not sure,
but I mean it was entertainment. I mean I didn't
listen he was getting the job done. I didn't listen either.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
What a hell of a career one what do you win?
Three super Bowls?

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Two with the Broncos and John Elway and that that
late Bronco surge of John's career. And then he went
to the Ravens and was part of that founding block
of foundation for that organization, him and Ray Lewis, Like
Ray was the guy that had the team and it
was like always they always had like quarterbacks that weren't
necessarily like big name quarterbacks. It was more of playing

(01:03:09):
to the defense. And you know the guy on the
offense that was always representable Shannon Sharp. That's what I
remember as a kid when you watch the Ravens, it
was Shannon Sharp's team on the offense.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
And that's that's crazy. The crazy thing about Shannon is
his brother Sterling and in the amount of respect he
had for his brother, who he had like a what
he played? How many years he played seven years in
the league, got cut with the neck injury, got cut
short with the neck injury, was like tearing up everything
was all pro five times led the NFL in receptions

(01:03:42):
a few three years and it was really cool to
hear when Shannon got inducted to the Hall of Fame,
that he would be the only guy up there in
the Hall of Fame that had a brother that was
better than him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
He said something along those lines. I'm paraphrasing, So you
have to give a shout out to Sterling and he was.
He was really good on TV back in the too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Shout out to Stirling as well, because actually, I didn't
know any of this has ever occurred. I didn't know
that Shannon had a brother. He was a muster I
played in the NFL that. Thank you for the fact, Jewels,
Thank you for the knowledge. We're always here to learn.
That was pretty cool that you know more about a
tight end and then you know I know about a
tight end, So that was cool.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
It's pretty cool to hear the brother brother get an
older brother, like, do you have any of those stories
where your older brother like punked you into.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
M of course, that's why I also think it was
really cool that you share that story because I got
three older brothers and one younger brother played on their
teams growing up, played same football teams in high school
and college and didn't remember Dan was on our team. Yeah,
the New England Patriots for a little bit. Yeah, big piece.
He he does have a big piece. It's dark as well. Yeah,

(01:04:50):
so it's like like a double whammy big piece. Yeah, douay,
big piece. It's tan. I guess I don't know. That's
why I've heard. That's what his wife told me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Here's brother. You've definitely seen his No, No.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
He's never showed me. I was making fun of him
one time, and then his wife came in like, Wow,
he has a bigger and darker dick than you know.
I was like, well, I know that, but I'm gonna
keep making fun of him, like I already know that.
That's why I am making fun of him so I
can make myself feel bad. Okay, back to Shannon Sharp,
who has a sharp piece.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Why are we always was? Why are we talking about
this stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
I don't know?

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Yeah, I mean this is dude talk, though, this is
dude's on dudes Like this is so great because whenever
we get off you know, subject and topic and everything,
we can always just blame it on the name of
the show. It's dud's just being dudes and and no, lie,
that's what dudes do. Man dudes talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
It's weird.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Why do dudes talk about peace sizes so much? Like
when it's just the dudes like on the couch watching
the game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Why is that? I don't know. It always comes back
to that. It's weird Manno mm hmm. Fourth leg the
greatest trash talker of all time. There.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
I was watching him on the whatever NFL one of
those NFL shows, Top one hundred shows wherever I had
the NFL channel line, and someone told Shannon Sharp before
don't quote me exactly, it's just along these lines. They said, Hey, Shannon,
you want to be famous, you want to be well known,
then don't block. And Shannon Sharp took that to heart
and he went out there and goes, I'm gonna go

(01:06:24):
out there and catch passes. I'm gonna go out there
and I'm gonna be well known. I'm gonna be famous,
and I'm gonna catch passes, score touchdowns and get first downs.
And that's sure what he did. But he wasn't that
bad of a blocker either. He went out there, he
got it done. He's kind of one of the first
tight ends to revolutionize the tight end position as well,
and to open up in offense at the tight end
position and He's kind of more of an h back

(01:06:46):
tight end as well, kind of shorter, more stockier, and
he got the job done. He could run.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
He runs like a deer.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
I mean, he didn't have all those stats for not
being great. I mean he's a monster. Did you ever
watch that Catlliams interview. Nah, I haven't, but I didn't either,
But I just remember the hype of that whole thing.
That's what That's what happened with Kat Williams went on
like a three hour RNT.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
I feel like Shannon would be a great time to
hang out with. Like I bet Shack in the day
when he was your teammate and you went out to
the club with him, he would be a freaking great
He would go up and talk to any girl. I
bet he just talks trash twenty four to seven. He
would go up. He'd be in the club talking to
like eight girls. I want to talk in garbage about.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
His teammates are hyping you up, like piping you off,
HIPing you up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
You see you see my boy over there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
You see that touchdout he had, you see that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
He needs a girl, like you know, he needs a
back massage. He needs some relaxation. We need him ready
for next week. Can you please go over there and
just sit on his lap. I'm telling you, go looking guy,
I see I seen him, seen him in the shower
too before. I'm telling you he's looking at him ultimate
hype guy. But you bet you would be like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
But he probably he probably hate playing against him, like
we never played against him. You probably hate playing against
Shannon Sharp just because of a his production, how good
he was, and b he let you know how good
he was. Most rip tight end of all time too.
He's got he's up there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Up there, he is the most ripped.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Look at him, he's fucking jack.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
Jack biceps freaking sticking out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
He loved at Hennessy. I've seen him drinking Hennessy. Is
it a bunch? Right, there's always pictures. I swear he'll
be working out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
I don't know what it is, but this guy, I
don't know how he can drink that alcohol and look
that great God touched him because he he's fucking a
monster in a great way. Who were some of the
best trash talkers you you played against?

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Oh, Charles Socks, he was great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
T Sizzle, Yeah, that same route, Yeah, Phil Ravens.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Yeah, he does. T Siszl was great man. He was
a scary player as well. He was massive. T sysl
loved the talk, talk, talk garbage.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
What do you say to you?

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
I mean it was so long ago, Yeah, yeah, so
long like you grown?

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Yeah, just ship like that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
I'm he loved. He loved the talk, like over the
line and over me and just directed right to Brady.
They always always, man, he was just directing it right
to Tom every single game. And then I would be
in front of him. You ain't touching Tom, I'm here,
I'm chipping your ass getting them. Yeah. But uh, I
would never talk garbage back really to him because he

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was scary too. Yeah, he was scary.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Yeah, I don't know. Bart Scott said fuck you to Billy.
Remember that in the playoff game, ye Scott, Bart Scott.
I remember when Bart Scott went up right, he was
three inches from Billy O'Brien's face and said, fuck you
white boy, Billy. Ohst he goes. I love him Bill.

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That was when we were fourteen and two. Yeah, they did.
They beat our ass in that division, Jets. We should
have never lost that freak. What was it? What was
bart Scott's thing?

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Can't wait?

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Can't wait, can't wait to lose the next game? Ten
minutes is up? All right, what kind of dude is
Shannon Sharp? I mean freak, absolutely freak.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
He's in the weight room, freak, on the field, freaking
the Sheet's just freak on the Undisputed Show, freaking serious
radio when he was on. He's been a freak his
whole life.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
He's freaky.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
He's freaky, freaky, freaky.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
He's also he could be dog. Oh, but he's more
of a freak. He's a freak.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
He's freaky Friday Stamp. He's a freaky Friday, Freaky Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
We'll be right back after this quick break, Patrick levon
Mahomes the second. Should we start start the clock? We
remember we have ten minutes to talk about each dude
to determine on what dude these dudes are. So let's
start the clock, said go Rob. Let's start with Ai.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Patrick Mahomes is an elite NFL quarterback for the Kansas
City Chiefs. He known for his incredible arm, strength, agility,
and leadership, leading his team to multiple super Bowl victories
few not a couple of few? What three super Bowls
been to how many?

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Force? No? Four super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
He's been three time champion Jesus. Off the field, he
has admired for his humility, community involvement, and philanthropic efforts,
particularly through his fifteen and the Mahomeys Foundation. He's he's
a guy for the kids, loves the kids, just like myself.

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I had the Grank Nation Youth Foundation. We're for the kids.
That's why I love Patrick even more now. He's for
the kids. When you're for the kids, you're a good dude.
When you're for the kids, you're a good dude. Mahomes
combination of talent, work, ethic, and character has made him
one of the most respected and influential figures in the
NFL today. Wow, tell you the truth. I don't think

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AI got it right. I mean, if AI got it right,
it would have been a page like of Like he.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Didn't even say anything about his arm angle thing, like
everyone talks about. Every human talks about this fucking arm angle.
He could throw the ball sideways. He can throw it,
you know, over behind the back, behind the back. This year,
he could throw it with his eyes closed, no lookers.
I mean, Patrick Levon Mahomes the second's he's lefing Patrick Levaughn.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
I love how you're just like saying his middle name
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
I like Patrick Levon mahomess haass. It's it's just it's
a good sound.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
I got a story with him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
So back when you were balling in twenty seventeen Super
Bowl against Philadelphia Minnesota, I had to torn acl and
so I proceed to go out and it's me Cliff Kingsbury,
his agent Eric, and Jacqueline who was working with Cliff,

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who's Mahomes' marketing lady, and this rookie Patrick Mahomes and
we were all at this table at some party or
some I don't even know club, and Mahomes was just
like the coolest little dude chugging beard. We were sitting
back chugging beards. I didn't really know who he was
because they still had Alex Smith. This was the year

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that he sat behind him right and no one knew
who he was, and he was just you could tell
he was one of the dudes that you wanted to
hang around. He's a fucking just goodass kid. He was
like a little puppy there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
He was just yo, the chick of Shaw you want.
And it's so crazy to see where his story's gone.
I mean, he's a fucking he's a legend. He's an
absolute legend. He is alleged. I don't have a story
like that. I just met him one time really quick.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
It was on the set of Subway commercial and I
was shooting and then he was right after me, and uh,
I mean, good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
I didn't have a foot long you know, in my
hand when I met him.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
That would have been a little awkward.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
But when I went up to him probably kind of.
I just got off. How would you know that, Jules,
I showered with you ten nine years Oh yeah that's true. Yeah,
oh yeah, I forgot yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Dang Dange has a monster piece. Dang shit represent back
to my homes, all right. So I just you know,
I was coming out of my trailer. I just finished
my set. Then he was coming on on the set.
He was coming out of his trailer, and then we
just walked by each other. I just met him super quick.
For about thirty seconds. We just said what's up. I
don't have a cool story like the Jewels, but he

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just seems like the ultimate dude, like a great guy,
great teammate person you know that will never you know,
any like we'll ever get too big time for anyone,
Like fame will never change. I never like just the
way he acts, the way he carries himself, which is great,
and I feel like that's why he's loved by America.
The Chiefs might not be loved by America, but there's

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no one that says, hey, you know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Like Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
I mean, if they don't like Patrick Mahomes, it's because
he is facing their team, you know, that week and
beating their ass.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
That is right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
But overall, man, everyone loves Patrick Mahomes. They love his game,
they love his personality, they love what he represents. And uh,
he's just the man dude. Just the way he plays
the game as well, he's not scared. He has no
fear on the field. I mean, he doesn't care if
he's gonna get hit by a linebacker, hit by d lineman.
Just his game just brings a whole new perspective to

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the fans in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Definitely, And like you said, he his success hasn't changed
him at all. You can tell how he handles himself
in front of the media that he's such a team guy.
M hm. Like you when you watch him, he never
he nevers. He only points thumbs, you know what I mean.
He never he never says anything. He always puts it

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on himself. And that's what a lead. That's someone that's
someone who we played with that did That's what Tom
did exactly, you know what I mean, that's why he
you know, he's in that he's doing what tomb shit.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
I literally think Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady have the
most similar careers out of like any other quarterbacks. I mean,
they both sat behind another quarterback when they got into
the league, which I think a lot of first rounders
should be doing that. I mean, look how much you
know mature Patrick Mahomes was, you know going in when
he first started because he sat behind Alex Smith, he

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got to learn.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
And then when it was just jis, Yes, Jayden.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Daniels is the only one that I would say, yeah,
he's he's NFL ready, Why you got it? Like there's
there's an exception, but majority, I mean majority of the time,
it's better for a player, you know, a first round
quarterback to sit. You know, obviously Tom sat behind Drew Blatsoe.
Patrick Mahomes sat behind Alex Smith, and then it was
when it was their opportunity. They were ready to go,

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and they took full advantage and then they became the
starter from there on out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Didn't Josh Allen sit behind?

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Wasn't Fitzpatrick there for a little bit early on? He
was sitting. He didn't come out as we're not talking
about Josh Allen.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Right, you're getting off but he like always all you
getting off track, but you always get right back on track.
That's why I love you. He's you just need someone
there just whipping your ass at all time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Need it. I need it too, and it really is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
He's really revolutionized the quarterback position. You could put him
in that same category as like Steph Curry who's changed
the position now Tom He's just a sit in the quarterback,
sit in the pocket type, spot type quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
The best one to do the best one to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
This is the first time where you've seen like the real,
real athletic quarterback, guy that changes launch angles, guy that
makes plays with like second plays within the plays, really
succeed and do what he's done, and it's made like
you see the kid at Nebraska what's his name, Dylan Rayola.
I mean you have now young kids trying to look

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identical to what Patrick Mahomes is doing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
And you see a lot of that. You saw a
lot of that with Aaron Rodgers and his play, how
people emulated how he plays. You know, you look at
how Jordan Love throws and all these younger quarterbacks, the
Zach Willisons, their little jump passes where they try to
get that ground force production. Mahomes is also doing that.
Now people are looking at Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
He's that next generation where everyone of these little kids
is really emulating, which is very parallel to what Steph
Curry did the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
And what also the factor is with Steph Curry now
is too, is that he can hit a three pointer
with a seventh quarter in front of his face with
the best guard guarding him, while he can hit a
three pointer off of one foot falling backwards on a
fade away. That's kind of like Mahomes on the fields
as an NFL quarterback. He's doing no look passes, he's
falling backwards getting hit, He's still throwing it on target.

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What else, he's throwing it underhand to the guy. So
him and Steph Curry are very similar in the way
that they can just release that ball and still get
it to exactly where they needed to go and swish
every shot.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Still, it's unbelievable. What a fucking what that was a
fucking three point court. I'm eating up.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
I got a scouting report for freaking Patrick. I wrote
the scouting report. He's crafty. He has great ability to
extend plays, and that's actually what makes Patrick Mahomes possibly
possibly better than the Goat in the end. That's the
only thing that I would say could possibly make him
better than Tom Brady in the end, is that he

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can extend plays to a whole nother degree.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
But he's never going to be better than Tom. Even
if he is. I'll never say that because I love Tom.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Also, I'm just saying the way he can extend plays,
that's what makes the Kansas City Chief so good. He's
about to be sacked and he just rolls out, spins
off a defender and then he throws a Travis Kelcey
or Tyreek Hill when he had him or no name
seventh rounder like you, Julianne, once again, making that seventh
rounder famous like Tom did with you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
Yeah, it's like Travis Kelcey famous, like Tom Brady made
you know myself famous. You know, throwing the boss to me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
That's what that's what.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
That's That's why these quarterbacks are great because they're making
us famous as well.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Big his money. So what were you gonna say? What
were you gonna say? I don't know. Good, I forgot
what I was gonna say.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
It's also pretty cool that he has Like in our situation,
we never really had an offensive minded head coach, and
we never really got to see the tandem of head
coach with offensive uh or with with quarterback. You know, Like,
I think his relationship with Andy Reid is something really
special as well. I think they can they can they

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can finish each other's sentences. Now Brady and Belichick could
do that too, but I think when they finish each
other's sentences, there's like a twinkle in their.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Eye, you know, like it's kind of like it's like
it's like I'm the one. Yeah no, but it's just
it's I think, you know, for as much as the
public he's getting sick of the Kansas City Chiefs, it's
it's it's guys like Patrick Mahomes. They got some really

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cool dudes at the top of that organization. Even Trive Man, he's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
A really cool dude, definitely like where you don't mind
rooting for him, you know, I I they're great and
I'm rooting for the greatness to see it, I mean
not crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Back to the Scott and Report, I had a couple
more you know, X factors on that scout and report.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
He has awesome vision. Obviously, he's creative. He's unflappable. You
know what that is? Juice? What is that?

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Like he just can't be tackle, he can't be stopped. Slippery. Yeah,
he's slippery. There it is. He's slippery.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Slip shut up, Bunjo. Kind of like Camara, but as
a quarterback. Kamara slippery when he goes there. Then he
goes through that hole like no one can get him,
and he just falls off of every tackle.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Twinkle to.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
He makes off schedule plays as well, which that's why
the Kansas City Chiefs are so great and they have
a chance in every game because of those off schedule plays.
When you're supposed to be sacked, it turns into a
thirty yard bomb. He's even keel. He's never too high
and he's never too low. No, Which that's how you
need to be in the NFL because the NFL has
so many highs and so many lows, and if you

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can stay in the middle, that's a talent right there itself.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Even when he's doing the whole Uh. The one thing
that it fucking cracks me up what he does is
when there's a penalty or something and he'll he'll he'll
stick his little head in the referee fucking the huddle.
It'd be like, oh, he does that little fucking headwave
boats on them. It's on them, it's on them. I
get so mad when he does that. I don't know why,
I know, and it's not on that. But he's kind

(01:23:02):
of cool us. He come cool thing that you were saying,
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
And most importantly, he's durable, durable, and if he's hurt,
he still goes out there and he performs. He was
in the playoffs he had like the high ankle spring
and he played, just came right back out and just
kept throwing bombs still.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
So the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
That's what makes the quarterback a quarterback is when you're injured,
you know, an elite quarterback in the elite quarterback is
when you're beat up, still you're still going out there.
And that's why this guy reminds me of Tom A lot, Yeah,
a lot, because Tom Hey, he would go out there
no matter what the situation was, where however he was
banged up, he would still perform and go out there
and play too.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
So many injuries no one knows about that Tom played
through because that's how good he was. And that's what
Patrick Mahomes does. He adjust his game when he's hurt. Remember,
like with that the high ankle spring what was that that?
That was their last two Super Bowls ago. It was
the first one where he had the high angle Spring
Bowls Ago and I was sitting there like this could

(01:24:03):
be really bad. And he had that really big run.
He had a really big third down run that was
like that sealed the game. I think I'm coming off
off memory and I was sitting there like, man, that's
what competitors do. They don't talk, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
He didn't make it loud about his ankle, but when
it was freaking nut cutting time, the dude went out
and he was an assassin.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Made the play.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
He always makes the play when his team needs him
to make the play. And that's why he's considered the
best quarterback in the league right now.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
But I mean he's clutching big moments. There's no doubt
about that. I mean, I don't think if the Kansas
City Chiefs didn't have my homes, they want to have,
you know one in these situations that they've been winning in.
I mean, the guy comes through every single time they
need a big play, and when the game is close,
he manages to score or put them you know, the
offense and field goal position so them Bucker can just

(01:24:56):
go out there and just kick a seventy yarder right
through the middle and just when the game every time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
And it's crazy, it's crazy. It's a lot of their
team is like very similar to ours, very similar in
all in all ways. If you really think about.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Great kicker, yes, best quarterback in the league, and then
a lot of great tight best tight end in the league, yes,
And you know Travis kind of having he's getting a
lot of the eyes right now. His production is down,
but then they always have some other guy, you know
what I mean. The defense, defense is strong.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
Miss Jones on the defensive size kind of like Devin
mccordy and Dante hy tower like they're very very similar.
And then obviously coach Blichick, coach Andy Reid very similar coaches,
and you want to know where they're very similar as well.
From what I've heard, practice is they practice hard, practice hard,
they practice hard. And in New England, we practiced hard.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
It made games easier if you were recovered for the game,
if you're.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
Made the game suck if you weren't recovered for the game.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
There was one time where he didn't come in clutch.
Uh when was that, Jules?

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
Was that when.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
There was a Super Bowl in Tampa Bay that you
were playing in.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Yeah, but you know, it was just an overall domination
of the whole team. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Yeah, they were missing those linemen.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
Yeah, they were missing the linemen, and we just dominated,
you know, the whole entire game. We dominated that of
offensive side of the ball. We had a great game
plan going in everyone. We had a script of like
eighty plays and literally we ran like all eighty of
those plays to the zach t that we wanted to.
It went literally from practice and translated right into the game. Uh.
And we were just checking mark, checking off like every

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play that we ran that we go to the next
and every play was working and on top of our
defense was ready. We even got blown out versus in
the regular season. I think that was our last regular
season lost too, and before we went on that you know,
eight game winning streak. But uh yeah, the defense we
we just scouted. I'm like, like it was nothing, dude.

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We were on Mahomes big time. But it really wasn't
Mahomes's fault. It was just a domination just overall, as
our team dominated their whole team in every aspect of
the game, so Mahomes really didn't have a chance to,
you know, perform like Mahomes. Yeah, yeah, that's that. That
was a That was a great game, that really was.
And then on top of it, man, what about the

(01:27:24):
freaking AFC Championship game. That's another time you no, when
we faced Mahomes and AFC Championship game. Man, I mean,
I'm the best AFC Championship game of all time, I believe,
And it was our time to shine as well, and
it was always you know a doubt. Hey, can the
newlymand Patriots go on the road and win a Super Bowl?

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We've never done that before. And that solidified us to
be the dynasty, the dynasty of all dynasties because we
went into Arrowhead twenty eighteen, the Chiefs were the number
one season electric and let me tell you, Mahomes didn't
disappoint in this game. The reason why Mahomes loss is

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because he didn't have a chance in the playoffs, in
the not the playoffs and overtime to touch the ball,
because we got the ball first and we went right
down the field and scored. I watched that game just
now in Dallas with my nephew. He put the game
on the last five minutes of the game. Let me
tell you, my blood was my heart was racing, my

(01:28:26):
blood pressure was up, because it was one of the
best games I've ever seen. I haven't ever rewatched it either.
In Jewels Man, you came through in the clutch boys
soon did.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Well. Yeah I did too.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
But no, let me tell you third and ten, the
game's over. We're down by four, Oh Rob, you know,
just Chip Black in the d N giving Tom extra time,
Tony Romo in the booth. Now expect Julian Edelman to
go up, you know, like he's going running it under.
Then to go up like he's going deep, and then

(01:29:00):
the run across or Tom Brady will hit him. It's
third and ten. That's gonna be the play boom.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
What happened?

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
You go right across the middle on an over route.
Boom first time, Third and ten again, Tony Romo. Expect
Julian across the middle. Tom Brady's gonna hit him. Expect
Gronka Chip give Tom more time. Boom hit Julian up
the freaking middle once again for another first down, and
then Tony Romeo again. Well, this time Gronk is spread
out wide. Let's see what he can do. It's third

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and ten. Guess what he just has to go to
gronckets one on one coverage. He's not gonna look anywhere else.
What happens we fade route first and ten. Baby, let's
go Baley. You came through Clutch so much. You had
a heck of a playoff run that year as well.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
That was a fun year and that was kind of
the passionate of tours for Tom to to Mahomes. You know,
he's kind of like hell for at least that matchup.
Tom played him again in newt in Tampa, but like
that was like a different one because that was like
that was the road to the AFC Championship was always

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through us, and it went to them. Tom had to
say right before he left the conference, say, buddy, there's
a hell of a run.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
You'll always hold my beer, You'll always remember me. You
always remember you didn't win when I was here, and
as soon as left that he's been winning them all
us ever seen so Patrick Mahomes And what kind of
time we went way over it's Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
You going, gosh, we're at twenty minutes, Yeah, my gosh,
it for like ten minutes. The guys guy has won
as a starter from the very beginning. He's a fucking
guy's no losing seasons. He's he's on pace to be.
We're only supposed to talk about him for ten minutes,
but it's been like twenty minutes. But we could talk
about Mahomes for the next two hours. Rail really wanted to.

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There's so many crucial spirit with him again, so many
situations he's been in where he has come back and
just made magic happen. He should be right here one
day and we should have a beer with him. That's
the kind of guy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Yeah, but we got to get to this. What kind
of dude you know?

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
Is Patrick Mahomes. I kind of feel like we kind
of went over it and already hit it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
But is he a stud? Is he a freak. Is
he a dog? Is he a whiz? Is he a
dude's dude?

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
I mean I feel like he represents and uh, he
hit all these categories, but what is he? What?

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
What one does he most exactly? I think two right
now that are coming to three are coming to me
right now. Freak dog in dudes, dude, freak dog and
dudes do I mean the guy is a wizard. Though
he's a wizard, and he's a wizard.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
Basically recreated the offense because of him. He basically recreated
how you I'm gonna go with the quarterback. But what
I'm really thinking, I'm definitely gonna go with one of
the three that what do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Hit?

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
Maybe Patrick Mahomes deserves two of them because he's just
that good, But we can't do that, can't break and
it was so great.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
He's a he is a freak and he's a freak
with a dad bob.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
But that's the advantage is that a quarterback. Here's my
big take on quarterbacks is if you're jack, you're gonna
only have like three years in the NFL. If you're
coming out in your kids coming out of college. I'm
not even gonna bring up any names, but I can
name so many that these quarterbacks are jacked. They can
bench so much that your arm's gonna fall off because

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you're too tight after after three years. That's why this
guy is so great because he has a dad body,
and when you have a dadbod, you're looser than fricking
he's a fucking dog.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
I'll loose cannon. Yeah he is a dog. He is
a dog. But he's a freak dog. Yeah he is.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
So can he be a freak freaking.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
You know what? Or is he just a whiz he
just clut.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
Nah, he's more than a whizz though. He wiz is
like someone that's really smart that keeps them in the
league longer because they're not a freak. So you can't
give him like a whizz. You can't give him a whizz. Nah,
But I think he's a dog.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
He is a dog because freaking mental, physical toughness, always motivated, relentless.
There's so many freaking there's so many third downs that
we don't even talk about that he converted when it
was his team needed it, that like made a drive more,
or that took an offense off the field or kept

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an offense off. There's so many of those situations that
he's a fucking dog. He's an assassinate. You will murder
your team.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
All right, Jules, Like I said, we can talk about
him for the next three hours. We gotta put him
in the category of a freak or a dog.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
What is he?

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
All right? You got three seconds to decide. Freak, he's
a freak. He is a freak, because there's only one Patrick.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
He's a freak. Know that, the little kid out of Nebraska.
He got the shades, the haircut, the same damn walk
and clapping stuff. There's only one of those. He's inspiring.
He is man. He's a freak, freak of nature. All right,
tamp it, damn? All right for the next start the time.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
All right, here we go. Here's a synopsis. I can
give you a clue. He wears number twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
Oh good clue. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
At six foot one, one hundred and eighty five pounds,
he's one of college football's most electrifying talents.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Oh college, our first college football player, college player. Now
we talking.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
I was waiting for this day. I was waiting for
this day. I was too you know, this is a
Christmas present, early Christmas present. Here we got for all
the Earlans out there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Eight crazy to tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
That, initially a top five recruit committed to a Power
five school, he made ways by committing to an HBCU program.
Now playing in the Big twelve, he's making highlights on
both sides of the ball week in and week out.
A Florida native, he has a He was a two
sport athlete, excellent in both football and basketball in high school.
Off the field, he's a gamer and content creator with

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a massive social media Following Jules who is a first
college player wearing number twelve, let's get.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
On Travis Hunter. Oh Man, all right, all right, I'm
excited about it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
I'm excited too, man, not just because we have our
first college football player, but we have the biggest college
football player in all of college, possibly a Heisman Trophy winner.
He's a two way player, one of the best wide
receivers in the game, but also one of the best
defensive backs in the game. When was the last time
we've even seen a player play both ways? Not just

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in the NFL ranks, but we're talking just even in
the college ranks.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Jewel Well, I don't think anyone's played like this. I
don't I don't think any I think he's I think
he's he's averaging one hundred and fourteen plays per game.
That's that's fucking gnarly. I remember when we played in
uh the game you didn't play in that sixteen Super Bowl,
when we had three receivers, we had one hundred and
like two plays and we were fucking exhausted, gas exhausted.

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And this guy plays one hundred and fourteen plays one
hundred and fourteen plays average a game, which is that's
that's that's crazy to me. But also he's like he's
like that first general, He's like, we're starting to get
a lot of these new guys. These are the first
generation guys of going from like one school to another school.
I mean, I believe he committed to Florida State and

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then Dion didn't get the job, and then he went
to Jackson State, and then when from Jackson State went
to the Big twelve to Colorado with coach Prime, Like,
this is this new generation of like a free agent
type player.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
And I don't blame him.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
Why wouldn't you go with one of the most electrifying
athletes that did it where you want to go in
the at national Football League with Deon Sanders, who's going
to help you develop to what you ultimately want to
do and become a pro. I mean, it's been so
impressive to watch this kid play.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
Well, sad, and you can't blame the kid at all
going where Deon Sanders goes, because it's all about relationships
in life. If you have a good relationship, why would
you want to break that relationship? You know, relationships go
far if it's a lot distance relationship or if it's
a relationship, you can go somewhere with someone. So you
got to give him much respect that he's loyal. Dion
and Travis Hunter I loyal to each other and each

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other's family, and you got to appreciate that because you
don't see loyalty, you know, like that anymore in the
in the United States, always all this social media. Everyone's
usually out there for themselves. But to see that loyalty
is something special and that's why it's working, and that's
why he's you know, Dion's creating a powerhouse just within
Travis Hunter and then also a powerhouse of a program

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at Colorado because they're loyal to each other there and
I like that, man, I like it a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Now, what do you think he's better at receiver or dB.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
Oh Man, that's a tough question. And and what's he
gonna do There's another question as well, what's he gonna
do when he gets to the NFL. He's gonna play both.
He's gonna pick a wide receiver, he's gonna pick a corner.
I mean, we can all throw our perspectives in, but
I mean it's always obviously up to what he wants
to do and what's best for the team or whatever
way he wants to go, whatever which way in direction.
But in college, I would say his first couple of years,

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he was a better quarterback, better better cornerback. He was
making play his interceptions. You know, he kind of you know,
was doing well at the wide receiver position, running by guys.
But lately, now since Colorado has taken off their top twenty,
now they're winning games. And I would say that has
to do with Travis Hunter stepping it up at the
wide receiver position. And from what I'm seeing, he is

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a better wide receiver now than he is a cornerback.
You know, this year, his third year in the college ranks,
I thought he was a better cornerback. His first two
years than being a wide receiver. But what he's doing
now is special. At that wide ride receiver position, he's
starting to understand it more. I feel like, you know,
he's running routes now. He's not just more athletic than

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the other guy. He's going up there. He's pinpointing the ball,
jumping over to guys strong hands. That's exactly what you
need at the next level as well. And it's just
fun to see him go. Man, And you want to
know what makes him so fast. I know what makes
him so fast is he got skinny calves.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
As Dion Sanders always said, you never seen a racehorse
with calves. You never seen a racehorse with calves. I
remember Dion said that one somewhere. I could be fully wrong,
but I feel like that I had big calves, so
I wasn't gonna fast fast change the direction.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
Calves I got. I got way too big of legs.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
No, the thighs, the thigh. It's not the thigh. You
look at his thighs. He's got big thighs. But when
you have those little bird calves that come up to here,
you know what I'm talking about. That little it's like
a little bird calve like you think those are.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
That's a speed guy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
You think if I get liposuction in my calves, I
can make it back to the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
No, but if you get a calf in planet, he
look really cool. That was a good answer. I like
that way better. Is he gonna win the Heisman?

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
I mean you got to play out the whole year
to see if he should win the Heisman or not.
And I truly don't even know anyone else that's in
Heisman contention. Yeah, uh, that's half of it, right, media, Yeah,
half of it is media. I think he should because
it's on what he's doing on both sides of the ball.
And what's so great about him as a defensive back too.
He's always around the ball. I mean he's making interceptions
off tip balls. He's making interceptions because he's gonna go

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make the play and go and deserve that interception. But
when you fall into an interception, that's just because you're
always around the ball and you have that knack of
just always wanting to be around the football.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
That's just a smart player right there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Man, he's a really he's an exceptional zone corner. I
haven't seen a lot of man and I haven't watched
a whole whole lot. I mean I watched a lot
of his highlights for this, and I've seen all his highlights.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
But like his instinct.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
To jump off of his zone to track another zone
and reading the quarterback is really good. Like he's always
like a trapped zone defender, Like he'll keep his eyes
in the backfield trap meaning he's got the flat, there's
a guy inside of him and there's a two deep safety,
Like he'll keep his eyes on that backfield and he's
breaking on the ball before the receiver is because he knows,

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you know, probably the receiver's responsibility, which I remember when
I played defense. It made me a better receiver, you know,
when they brought me into those meetings.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
That's what I did want to ask you as well,
what was it like playing defense and offense? Actually you
did it in the NFL ranks as well. That was
what year twenty eleven, so you can explain more of
what Travis Hunter is doing than anyone else.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
Well, it's as a player, it made me a better
It made me a better receiver because once I stepped
into all the defensive back meetings, I was learning what
they were protecting I was learning their techniques. I was
learning on certain things what they would try to do
with safeties that that's really what mattered. The corners could lie,

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but if the safeties were out of position, that's when
you would pay the leverage that the defensive back always
had to keep because he was protected with certain help
on certain sides. Like that taught me as a receiver,
like in my in my route running that if I
do this to this guy, I know he's protecting this,
which I see it in his game when he's playing defense,

(01:42:10):
when he's jumping all over these these these the receivers
leaving his zone. So it's really hard mentally, Like that's
what I'm interested to see how he does in the NFL,
because once you get to the league, you know, there's
no you know, Rice Academy, Agricultural school, where you could
just go and glove up their their best receiver who's

(01:42:33):
you know, he's good in college while having to study,
you know, the game plan for offense, which you know
in the in AFC Championship, I played like twenty five
plays on offense. I played twenty five plays on defense,
and I played all the special teams. Something along those
lines could be off a couple of plays here or there,
but it was so hard for me in the prep

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week to get all my mind ready for what my
offensive needs were, and then also so for what my
defense and needs and my responsibilities were. It was a
lot mentally, and then you know in practice you're going
the whole time in NFL seventeen game seasons. So you know,
it's been really impressive to watch him doing in college.
I don't know what he's gonna do in a pro
I'm probably pretty sure if I was him, i'd go defense,

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because those corners get paid a lot of money, and
then they probably give you a package on offense. Here
they're red red area package or a zone, a third
down package, or you know, a gimmick package where we
need to get like some spark. You get him in
like a slip screen or he can catch the boll
down the sideline.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
That's well said, though I believe that he could possibly
play both ways in the NFL, but not full time
both ways. Like you said, have a package for him
on offense in the red zone or a third down
or whatever it is, or whatever best suits his skill
set at the wide receiver position, and then use him
full time on the defensive side of the ball. But
I would say it's up to Travis Hunter obviously what

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he wants to do in the NFL. I mean, coming
out of high school, I was an all state defense event.
I only had eight catches as a tight end, you know,
coming out, coming out, you know, going into the college ranks.
But the whole time, I knew I wanted to play
the tight end position. But if you were a fan
out there, you'd be like, wait, wait a second, you
were all state d N why are you going, you know,
to college and tight end?

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
Because I knew that best suited me.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
I knew that I had the best chance of making
it to the NFL because I felt like I was
a tight end and I felt like I could grow
at that position and be the best out there.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
So it's all up to him.

Speaker 3 (01:44:28):
It's all up to his mindset what he thinks best
suits him, and only Travis Hunter can determine what side
of the ball he wants to play. But he's so
good in my eyes though, it'd be really, really tough
to play a full NFL game on both sides, but
he's so good. He's good at both positions where he
could be in packages on both sides.

Speaker 2 (01:44:47):
Could be an impactful player on both sides of the ball.
I mean, I'm a special team or two return kicks.
He's also making three million dollars a year right now
in college, so he ain't no rush man. What would
you do with that money? If you had that in college?
Billion bucks? Bro, I would probably have at that time
of my life.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
I'd have the sickest like surround sound, big screen TV.
I'd have the dopest like Xbox stuff. I'd have a
gamer chair, because when you're in college, that's what you did,
you play video game. I'd have a sick poker We
used to play a lot of poker in college. I'd
buy like a sick custom poker table for like a
poker night.

Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
Uh, all right, I was talking.

Speaker 1 (01:45:25):
Obviously you're gonna you're I mean, you roll up to
Georgia's fucking student parking lot, you see nothing but Lamborghinis.
So I think I'd have to join the club, get
a Lambeau or something. I mean, you're a college kid,
you got no fucking fears of anything.

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
I call those Lambeau ship boxes. Well you want to
know why, because I can't fit in my knees are going.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
What would you win?

Speaker 3 (01:45:46):
Shield?

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
I would have a freaking one fifty raptor or something.
I know you would do Lambeau. I would have the
Lambeau of the you know, four trucks.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
I don't really like them either, but I just can't
probably get And then when I say that it's three
million bucks, you probably couldn't get a lambo. Actually, uh,
what would you do just if you were if college?
This is what I think college, rubb, let's hear it.
Would you just buy an Olympic sized pool? Make it
a hot tub?

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
There we go, Now there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:46:14):
You're hitting me right on the money tools. Also, no,
I was a big Halo player. Man. I love video
games and Halo was our game in the house that
we lived in, and we played four way players on
that uh what was it Xbox three sixty and we
we had the four worst gaming chairs of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
They're falling apart, like two wheels on the chair.

Speaker 3 (01:46:32):
But it was squeaking ruined, the ruining the floor every
single time we were playing. But we didn't care as
long as we got our Halo in. And Halo like
gave you that excitement, gave you that juice as well
before going out, So it was always the pregame game
to play as well before hitting you know, hitting the
town on a Friday night.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
Well, I would have had the I would have had.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
The best possible video game setup that you could possibly
have if I was making that type of money in college.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Man, big time and time, let's do it. It's well,
it's time. Dude. Is Travis Hunter? Uh Man. He seems
like a great team guy. He is a great team guy.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Seems he doesn't seem selfish. He seems like he gets
along with everyone. He has a great attitude. So he
could be a dude's dude.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
He could definitely be a dudes dude, you know, especially
to the video gamers out there. I mean, always streaming
with everyone, always letting everyone have the insight of what's
going on in his life, which is really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:47:25):
And what's different about this era compared to our era
is if you were a streamer or if you were
big on social media at our time, like it would
be frowned upon, like like coaches would use that against
you if you mess up on the field. But that's
what this new generation, these new millennials are all about. Hey,
let's vlog, let's blog, let's play video games, let's what
is a twitch, and let everyone see our video game

(01:47:47):
streaming going on. And that's totally normal, and that's how
it should be because if you take care of business
on the field, you can do whatever you want outside
of football on your own time. But our era, it
was always frowned upon because there was no such thing
as social media, like it was just starting to become big,
so they would use every excuse if you mess up
on the distraction. Oh he's on Twitter, he's doing that

(01:48:07):
video game. But it's cool that guys like him are
just so good at what he does on the field,
and it makes it totally normal that he's still a
streamer and he's and he's kicking asset that too, So
that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
So at Colorado they have the L or the D.
They don't give a C, they don't give the captain logo.
They give a leader or a dog. And he got
the dog symbols so he could be.

Speaker 3 (01:48:31):
A dog because as Dion says, every dog and a leader,
and every leader ain't a dog.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
That's that's real too, that's real. I honestly don't see
I see him as a dog. Like we always say,
guys are multiple things, but the one thing that sticks
out to me, I want to see if it sticks out.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
To you on three, one two three, streak stamp it.
Why is a stud?

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
I would say he's a stud because he's playing one
hundred and forty four plays a game.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Well that's freaky. Yeah, actually, all right, all right, that's
freaking right right. He's a stud on the field because
he he's on the he's just stud on the field
because he's a freak. Yeah, let's change a jewels, let's
change one two three freak.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Yeah, he's I mean it's pretty it's pretty insane. It's
pretty insane to have one hundred and fourteen plays a game.
I hope he continues to have the success and by
the time we drop this, maybe they'll be in the play.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
He's one hundred percent of freak. When you play one
hundred and fourteen plays a game, you're just absolutely freak
of freak of nature. And he's making plays on both
sides of the ball. I mean, yeah, that's Stuteley, but
that's more of like wha. That that's like whoa, that's
some freakish material right there, No anzifs or butts about it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
He's got some weird crazy like numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:49:54):
Records were like he's got over a five hundred yard
he's got like four interceptions this that he's done it
like three times and one person's ever done it. It
was like Champ Bailey like twenty five years ago. So like,
this guy's in a he's in a category of his own.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
And to be that well conditioned, that's that's what it is.
You're a freak. You're a freak. You're an absolute freak
if you're that welly conditioned, well conditioned, well he conditioned,
the most welly conditioned player in all football. Comes in
my mind saying that comes to your mind? Right now?
What's what comes to your mind? Josh Allen Rob Gonkowski

(01:50:34):
version of quarterback. Oh, I like that one brother, Like
he's always used to we always used to call you
beast mode.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
And he gets into this beast mode where he takes
over games with his size, his speed, his arm. You know,
we all thought this year was a rebuild year for
the Buffalo Bills. They are representing the a F SEE
East in the championship game. A lot before you keep going.

(01:51:06):
There's no such thing. It's like Tom Brady being in
New England.

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):
There's no such thing as a rebuild year when you
have Tom Brady at the quarterback position. And now that's
the same thing with Josh Allen. There is no such
thing as a rebuild year because Josh Allen is at
the quarterback helm and when he's at the quarterback home,
he's always going to find a way to win the games.
And also they got head coach Sean McDermott as well,
and he's there as well. There's no such thing as

(01:51:29):
a rebuilding year in Buffalo anymore. They're always going to
be contenders with those two.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
This could be one of his most impressive years.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
It is because it's actually a year where they didn't
you know, they were saying, oh, there's not enough talent
around him. He doesn't really have a wide receiver. He
makes talent, Yeah, talent, and they got they traded their
tire receiver digs over to Houston. And just look how
much Josh Allen is thriving this year. It's just truly
showing how much knowledge he has of the game and

(01:51:57):
how much intellectual he brings to the game as well.
And to that offense and just how skilled he really is.
This is the year that he has taken it to
a whole nother. He takes it to a level new
level every year, and he took it to even another
level this year.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
Jewels. He's impressive. Have you ever met him?

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
I met him real quick at tight On You in
Nashville Tighten University.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Yeah, he went.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
He was the quarterback, and let me tell you, it
was amazing because you know, I always kind of dreamed
about playing for the Buffalo Bills because I'm a kid.
It's like you're dreaming for the Scatraisco forty nine ers.
You you thought it, You probably still think, like, how
cool would that be if you I almost went exactly
I almost went to Buffalo as well, but it just
never really worked out. And we were talking, we've been
a hassle. We were talking at tight End You and

(01:52:37):
he was throwing me some passes up the scene.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
Man, and he was just laying that ball right and
he got a singer and then he was.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
Trying to recruit me. He's like, come on, come on, retirement,
come to Buffalo. You know, look, we would do big things.
And I'm like, we would do big things. And and
all that, but it just just never happened.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:52:53):
I just was not you know, all these quarterbacks trying
to steal you. Yeah they are, they are Joe Burrow,
Josh Allen, Hey, Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
In the end, it just you know, I was just
done with football. It just wasn't there anymore. But I
would have loved to play, you know, with Josh Allen
Buffalo at least one year.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
It look good. That's why. That's what was intriguing me
when I was even talking to the Buffalo. Beit.

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
Yeah, Joels, So a couple of big time quarterbacks have
recruited me. Yeah, have any recruited you before?

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
Not really, I don't think Sy not. Probably an asshole now,
Actually I don't know. You probably told him they sucked
when you saw him. You suck.

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
I know how you get sometimes, Juels. You're just so
intense and you're so competitive and I love it so much.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Oh yeah, well Brady did try to recruit me to Tampa.
That doesn't count.

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
But he's been your quarterback your whole career. No, I
came in, yeah, but you know what I mean, came in.
There's definitely been quarterbacks that try to recruit you. The
other places.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
Yeah, but it's different. You were like a You're a phenomenon.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
You're like John Travolta in that movie where he gets
struck by lightning and all of a sudden, you can
speak fucking Portuguese and Spanish.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
That's you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
I'm like, just about the ya ya ya ya ya
dah yo wag well football in America?

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
No, yeah, I see you're like that a way. Let's
get it. How about you day ball help Josh Allen
as a quarterback? You think?

Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
Actually, when I was reading a synopsis, I was already
thinking that in my head. That is truly when Josh
Allen started breaking out as a quarterback that he is now.
Dabele brings the best out of players. You know, Dabel
as a head coach, they're struggling over there in New York,
you know. But put all that aside, because being a
head coach is totally different than being a position coach

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and being an offensive coording, because you're truly working with
that guy every single day, just like Dabele worked with
me every single day, and he brings the best out
of you.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
He knows how to motivate you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:46):
And I feel like Josh Allen was struggling his first
couple of years in Buffalo, and he just needed that
guy to be around him to build up his confidence
and to show him, you know, the ins and outs
of the quarterback position. And I truly believe that Dabel
was the guy that got Josh Allen over to Hump
to be the quarterback that he is now. And now

(01:55:08):
Josh Allen, since he was coach on him, gave him
all that confidence. Dabell doesn't need to be there anymore
because now he has it and it's established into him
and it's and it's in him now so he can
be that be that guy that Buffalo needs. He's the
Buffalo savior. They call him the Winter General, I think
over there because it's it's it's cold. It's the winter Soldier,

(01:55:28):
the General Soldier, winter Soldier, Winner General, all those names
they love.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
Josh don't seventeen, do they Nah? They don't call him Jay.
He can't do that. Winter Soldiers pretty cool though. But
he a bill for life.

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
I think I think he's a bill for He's a
bill for life if anything. If he's not, he'll go
to another team at the end of his career. That's
the only way that he would leave Buffalo, like you're
talking like ten years from now, like one or two
years left. They drafted the quarterback first round. They're grooming
him for a little bit, and then Josh Allen Lee's
just to go try somewhere else out like maybe California

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or something. That's the only way these type of quarterbacks
leave their franchise. It's just at the end of their career.
But Dave all did an excellent job with him. I
feel like that's when he started thriving. Josh Allen always
had that mentality to be great. He just needed to
pulled out of him. And I believe I mean, I
wasn't there, but I believe Dabel did because he was
my coach and he helped pull it out of me

(01:56:22):
for years. So that's why I feel like I may
be wrong, but I feel like I'm right in this situation,
and Dabel helped him out tremendously.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
Yeah. He reminds me, and his story reminds me a
lot of Ben Roethlisberger.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
Ben went to Miami, Ohio and came into the league,
not a big name guy, but lit it up and
he's just a faster like Big Ben. When he was young,
was like manhandling guys. He was a large human being,
and that's what I feel to a whole other level
because Josh can jump over you and he's got a
lot more speed. But Big Ben was like that and

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won two Super Bowls. So hopefully Josh Allen can, you know,
get over this hump and do something. You know, hopefully
he can, he can catch those demons in the back
of his head about Patrick Mahomes, because Patrick owns them.

Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
Patrick owns them in the in the postseason. But I
mean it doesn't I wouldn't really say owned because Josh
Allen showed out for all those games as well. I
mean they both threw for over three hundred yards in
the thirteen second division run. Yeah, but that the thirteen
second game wasn't on Josh Allen. Josh Allen went down
and scored and gave him on he three in the
seconds left. That was on the Bills defense. That was

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on the staft there or or whoever it was it was,
It wasn't on Josh Allen. He went were they winning
at that time or were they just a tie game?
I think they were winning and then and then it
went in the overtime or something that kicked the field goal,
but whatever, the thirteen seconds, I can't really recall everything
that happened. Josh Allen absolutely balled out over three hundred yards,

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three TVs, zero interceptions. So Patrick Mahomes really doesn't own
Josh Allen. It's more like Patrick mahomesh Bills and the
whole entire league still a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
To the face of the team. You win, it's your
it's your praise. You lose, it's your praise. What kind
of dude is Josh Allen? What kind of dude is
Josh Allen? I mean, this dude he kind of freaky.
I mean the way he heard a linebacker.

Speaker 2 (01:58:16):
When he.

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
Stud Yeah, yeah, you're not a stud if you're in JUCO.
That's a good point. You know, you can kind of
become a stud, but you're not fully you've been. If
you're a study, you've kind of been a stud your
whole entire life, your whole Yeah, he's freaky a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
He's definitely a dude's dude. He Oh, he really is.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
When we were at Titan Universe, he was cool with everyone, man,
everyone that I talked to him Buffalo, I can tell
you every single person loves Josh Allen, everyone that has
ever interacted with him, anyone that's ever done a deal
with home.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
He is beloved in Buffalo. Al right on three? What
do you think he is? One? Two three? Freak? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:58:56):
Next, who we got Jules. We've already talked about him
a little bit. One of the greatest running backs of
all time. Plaid for the other team that played on Thanksgiving.
Not America's team, A team to America's team. Now it
could be could could be America's team now, yes, up
near Canada, could be Canada's team. It could be America's
Upper States team. Yeah, Midwest, those type of states.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
So let's get on Barry soon.

Speaker 3 (01:59:19):
Let's go, let's go, let's see. Let's see what AI
has to say about him. Barry Sanders, at five foot
eight and weighing two hundred pounds, played as a running
back for the Detroit Lions. Haling from Wishita, Kansas, Sanders
burst onto the scene at Oklahoma State University, where he
set multiple records and won the Heisman Trophy in nineteen
eighty eight. Drafted third overall nineteen eighty nine, he became

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known for his electrifying agility elusive footwork, and explosive speed,
making him one of the most thrilling players in the
league's history. He surprised many by retiring at the age
of thirty one in nineteen ninety nine. Is it that
big of a surprise. I mean, I retired when I
was twenty nine years like he was in his thirties.
But he must have been that good still. It surprised everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
I meant to put in perspective. He won Offensive Player
of the Year in ninety seven, retired two years later.

Speaker 3 (02:00:09):
Over his career, he amassed fifteen two hundred and sixty
nine rushing yards and ninety nine touchdowns, earning ten Pro
Bowl selections, the nineteen ninety seven MVP Award, and a
place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Jesus, what
is the first thing that you think of when you
hear the name Barry Sanders?

Speaker 2 (02:00:26):
Jewels my childhood, if you made a crazy like cutback play,
or you made someone juked out, you juked someone out
of their jock or something, and it was just like
you were doing a Barry play. Like that's Barry Sanders
made Detroit relevant and like only went to the playoffs
like twice or three times in his career. Instantly think

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of the plays where like he has four guys draping
on him and then he jukes like two guys and
then a guy thinks he's down and thinks he play's
over and he's still running on the other side. Barry
Sanders was so electric. I think Barry's would not like
he would be even crazier in this generation. That's how
good he was. What do you think of when do
you think about Barry Sanders.

Speaker 3 (02:01:07):
I think about for Ford vehicles, I really do, man
and he was all the vehicles combined and won.

Speaker 2 (02:01:17):
I mean, that's actually not bad. Yeah he was.

Speaker 3 (02:01:19):
He wasn't the size of an expedition, but he played
like he was an expedition. He was like an explorer
that had like a V eight engine from one of
the cars that they you know, from the Ford Mustang. Yeah,
and he had like monster truck tires, like the big wheels,
like from a Ford raptor F one fifty. So this
guy basically could do it all out of the backfield.

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I mean he could, you know, catch a ball. Obviously,
he could run. He was so elosive. He made guys
fall face first. You know, it's so imagine that being
a defender. You're a professional defender as a linebacker, as safety,
and you go to tackle somebody and you totally miss
and fall directly on your face. That's what Barry Sanders
did to these folks.

Speaker 1 (02:02:01):
You know, I just want to I want you to
describe Barry Sanders as like a Ford model, make color interior, exterior, engine,
Like Barry Sanders.

Speaker 2 (02:02:11):
What color car is he?

Speaker 3 (02:02:12):
Barry Sanders would be the grayish.

Speaker 2 (02:02:15):
Color white gray. Take a bullet like a silver bullet.

Speaker 3 (02:02:18):
Yeah yeah, I like that, Yeah, silver bullet. But like
love by everyone.

Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
You know, Gray's loved by everyone, it really is. You
can't hate on gray. What about what's the interior?

Speaker 3 (02:02:29):
The interior? They have to be something flashy? Why flashy
because he was flashy on the field.

Speaker 2 (02:02:34):
So like a red berry.

Speaker 3 (02:02:35):
No, it would be it wouldn't be red, it'd be
it would be blue, a blue ray lions color, blue, leather,
gray and blue. Do we got a sun roof? No sunroof.
It's a coop because we're dirty, We get down the business.
We don't need a sunroof.

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
V V eight is it like a Shelby?

Speaker 3 (02:02:51):
And then we got Ford Raptor tires. But we also have.
They're also on like twenty two inch rims. So we
can be you know, run over a folk folk when
we need to, and we can just.

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
But still get out of this when we needed to.
Any racetripes, just just one, just one solid one that
goes to the colors.

Speaker 3 (02:03:07):
That racetripe that's black. What's the license plate number twenty twenty?
Because he has twenty twenty vision as well.

Speaker 2 (02:03:13):
Out in the football his joker did have great fucking vision.
He probably had most lead vision in the history of
the game. I want to see this car. We're gonna
have to make this car up buying prints lying.

Speaker 3 (02:03:21):
Prince Oklahoma, Oklahoma state mascot.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
What is that the guns? Yeah, cowboys, cowboy guns.

Speaker 3 (02:03:29):
Kyle's badass and I'm not even a car guy, and
I just I just built my my first car ever.
He's spected three hundred, twenty thousand dollars right there?

Speaker 2 (02:03:38):
Could that car win the Daytona five hundred percent?

Speaker 3 (02:03:40):
Winning the Daytona five hundred.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
A year in a year out every time, every single
time he didn't win a Super Bowl? What if he's
just the fastest car on the on the block, but
someone always then they go, you got me here, then
they car and they win the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (02:03:54):
He never won a super Bowl. So oh man, you're right,
he's not winning the Daytona five hundred. He's getting back
in third place every single time.

Speaker 2 (02:04:02):
Or he's probably crashing like he's winning the race by
like three laps. He had a bad he had.

Speaker 3 (02:04:07):
It wasn't him that lost the race. He had a
bad you know when you go in for the pit stop.
He had a bad crew around him.

Speaker 2 (02:04:12):
Every time. It took like how long does it take
in a pit stop usually in Nascar, I mean we're
talking standard probably thirty eight seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:04:20):
Yeah, okay, well it took his team like a minute
twenty every single time.

Speaker 2 (02:04:24):
Minute.

Speaker 3 (02:04:25):
Just had a bad you know bag, pit crew, bad
pit crew, bad team around him.

Speaker 2 (02:04:29):
His measurables.

Speaker 1 (02:04:31):
This guy ran four to three or forty four inch
vert so you know, Barry Sanders is dunking at five
eight and twenty seven remps at the bench. The one
of the funniest quotes that I always think of when
I think of Barry Sanders. I watched the documentary with
his dad. They asked him, mister Sanders, who do you
think the best running backs of all the time? He goes, Yeah,
Jim Brown, myself and then my son. He would never

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give his son the snip for two spot behind Jim Brown.

Speaker 2 (02:04:59):
That's crazy. I love his dad was so tough on him.
I love it.

Speaker 3 (02:05:02):
So I knew about that. Actually, you told me that
before we were going to talk about Barry Sanders.

Speaker 2 (02:05:07):
So what did I do?

Speaker 3 (02:05:08):
I went and called your dad, say, Frank Addleman, Frank
Nutts the nuthouse, Papa Frank himself. He ranked his you know,
top three slot receivers number one. This is why I
love Frank. And this is when you know he truly
loves you, Jules, because you're number one.

Speaker 2 (02:05:26):
And I don't argue with that.

Speaker 3 (02:05:27):
I don't argue with that. You know, Frank's on top
of his game. Number two Wes Welker and number three Dola.
I don't know where he got Dola from at number three,
but you got admit he's loyal. He's loyal to his
son and he's loyal to his son's friends. Mm hmm oh.

Speaker 2 (02:05:45):
He also ranked his top his top three tight ends.

Speaker 1 (02:05:48):
Ranked the top tight ends, he goes number three. Mark
Bavaro Monster.

Speaker 3 (02:05:54):
I would say Mark Bovarro from just stories I've heard
from players that played against him that he was the
strongest tight end ever in history. I've heard that too, Yes,
Like he would take defensive as the linebackers and just
lock him up right on the spot and not let
them move. He was just that strong. His grip was
through the roof, they said. And I'm talking like players
that played against him or freaks of nature. And they said,

(02:06:17):
Mike Bavaro would dominate every single time.

Speaker 2 (02:06:19):
So what if you guys grab each other, who.

Speaker 3 (02:06:22):
Mirke Bovar would? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:06:24):
He's stronger than me, Okay, I don't think so. And
then number two on my dad's list was Kelsey, and
then one of course was grownk And.

Speaker 3 (02:06:31):
I love you, Frank Nuts you got you got a
wonderful dad, great dad. I like dall nut House Papa,
though edel Nutt House Papa. I like it all right.

Speaker 1 (02:06:42):
What was what was Barry Sanders' best Turkey days? He
was He had ten games on Turkey Day, seven and three,
record winning record. Barry Sanders loved Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (02:06:52):
Suckond all time in Russian yards behind Thanksgiving, behind.

Speaker 2 (02:06:55):
I'm at Smith, behind Emmitt Smith.

Speaker 3 (02:06:57):
It's two hundred and ten carries on Thanksgiving Day. For
nine hundred and thirty one yards. He just couldn't break
that thousand yard mark on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (02:07:05):
That's tough. He should have came.

Speaker 3 (02:07:06):
Back just for that, right, yes, for that, just to
say he had over a thousand yards on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
We're talking about moments in his career, but him retiring
at such a young age, and he was like, I
think he was a season away from being the all
time leader. At his retiring date, he was like, if
you would have played that last season, he would have
beat the record, and he just walked away.

Speaker 2 (02:07:25):
He didn't really care about the records. He just wanted
to win. I think he got beat down from losing.
You know that. He doesn't say that in any of
his documentaries or all.

Speaker 1 (02:07:34):
You know, you watch his interviews, but I mean, if
you if you go out for a long time and
you're dominating and you you're losing every year, that's going
to take a toll.

Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
It shows kind of player he was.

Speaker 1 (02:07:44):
You know, he loved football as a game, not for
an individual statistic. I mean there's always stories of Jerry
Jones two three years later going to him and say, hey, man,
sure you don't want to come play for the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (02:07:56):
Or something. I've heard that a couple of times too.

Speaker 3 (02:07:58):
As a player, you want to always tough it out.
You never want to show that you're weak. The second
you show that you're weak, you're kind of beat In
the NFL, you got to always, you know, have that
standard set, that bar set, that nothing's gonna take you down.
And the second that you let that go and you
let things take you down, you're not gonna be able
to perform. You're gonna get out worked, you're gonna get

(02:08:20):
ran over. The other guy's gonna beat the crap out
of you. So that mindset always has to be there.
And if you get beat down, even though you look
like the best player on the field, it's gonna come
back and haunt you in the end. I've been through
that situation before. I bet you've been through it the
end of your career as well, where you just kept
taking beatings, injuries, You're trying to play through a knee,
a forearm, whatever it is, and then finally you're like, man,

(02:08:42):
I can't take this no more. And I feel like
that's kind of what happened to Barry Sanders. I mean, yeah,
he was the greatest of all time, one of them.
He looked unbelievable out there on the field, but he
was always losing, always taking a beating. You just don't
know what these NFL guys are going through at all times.
You really don't.

Speaker 1 (02:08:59):
He's still hasn't let anyone know why he retired, like
he kind of has. I mean, he was fourteen hundred
yards away from the old time rushing record that Emmitt
Smith went to then beat three or four years later.
A couple of years.

Speaker 3 (02:09:11):
Later, he did talk about it a little bit when
he retired, that the passion wasn't there for him anymore.
If you don't have that passion, which can attribute to
just always getting beat down, not winning, there's no reason
to be out there on the football field. It's not
good for the fans, it's not good for yourself, it's
not good for the organization. He's just kind of basically
said there was nothing left to really play for, and
he didn't really see the Detroit Lions being a Super

(02:09:33):
Bowl contender either. Yeah, and if they were, the Lions
were truly going to be a Super Bowl contender, I
feel like that would have gave him the passion, the
influence that he needed to go back out there and
because that's all he truly doesn't have is a Super
Bowl ring. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:09:48):
Do you remember when the passion left for you?

Speaker 3 (02:09:50):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (02:09:51):
I do. I mean I was beat down. It was
my last year.

Speaker 3 (02:09:53):
I mean, we won the Super Bowl when I was
on the New England Patriots, when we beat the Rams,
and I went into the playoffs knowing that I was
going to retire. Dude, I mean, this is the year.
The pounding on my body, all the injuries were flaring up.
I was running slow. Especially the passion definitely decreases for
the game of football when you start losing your skill
set because it's not as fun anymore when you can't

(02:10:15):
just run by someone or just throw someone around. It's
not fun when you're the one getting thrown around and
the guys on you like white on rice when you're
trying to run a route.

Speaker 2 (02:10:24):
So it was like that year.

Speaker 3 (02:10:26):
But I was just putting the team first, and I knew,
you know, I could come through in the times that
I needed to come through for the team, and we
ended up putting in the Super Bowl. So it couldn't
have worked out any better. But winning that Super Bowl,
it was just kind of a relief that the game
was over. Yeah, but I got that passion back when
I took a year off, and then it kind of
started fading away again, you know, my second year in Tampa.

(02:10:46):
You know, that's when I knew that it was probably,
you know, time to hang it up again.

Speaker 1 (02:10:50):
Yeah, that's kind of how my mind went down as well.
When I was in practice and guys that I should
be dominating were coming close to covering me, I was like, yeah,
it's I have to work way too hard to and
it hurts way too much. Yeah, you're you're not doing
it if we weren't winning at that time, so I could.

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I you know, it's hard to be in pain while
you're losing and have to go perform.

Speaker 3 (02:11:18):
That's why I'm thankful for all the good times when
we're in our mid twenties Jewels. Yeah, like when everything
was just always feeling like looking like just always feeling good. Yeah,
you're just activated from head to toe. Just your running
form was just always on point. It was like it
was easy. You're just felt like you're going through the
motions even though you were going full speed and running

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by people. Man, those were the days. Thankful for those
days as a player.

Speaker 2 (02:11:42):
It's young, dumb and full of yes, yes, the best,
the best days for you to wake up and you
can sprint thirty hundreds and without even warming up, without
even warming up, you'll box someone in the one on ones.
Take it to team, come lay the wood on forced
down in the box. Safety.

Speaker 3 (02:12:00):
What about Barry Sanders in college too? Man, he was
one of the best college football players to ever.

Speaker 2 (02:12:06):
He was fucking unreal.

Speaker 3 (02:12:07):
He won the Heisman most rushing yards in the season
over twenty six hundred yards.

Speaker 1 (02:12:11):
I mean, and his dad hated Oklahoma State because he
was an Oklahoma Suitors fan.

Speaker 2 (02:12:17):
I'm fucking I'm so infatuated with that story.

Speaker 3 (02:12:19):
That's that's why he'll never put his son in front
of him running back in the end.

Speaker 1 (02:12:24):
It's crazy, but I think that's what drove Barry. You know,
he wanted his dad satisfaction. And maybe his dad knew
that the dads always know us the best.

Speaker 3 (02:12:33):
The greatest fine fuel in the the titious things, man,
like the titious things. What's that word I'm looking for?

Speaker 2 (02:12:42):
Tedious? Titious, tedious, tedious. I like titious things, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:12:46):
I just like what I said. That's why that was
on my mind. I like not going to say the word,
you know the first part of it, only because tedious
we're appropriate show, but tit titious is always on my
mind for some reason. Titious so is what the word
I was really going for. It's tedious. So the greatest

(02:13:08):
dude find you know that motivation. For example, say if
you just said something that I didn't like in the
locker room that day, and I would just go out
in the field and I would be like, af this guy, Jules,
I'm gonna make sure I'm open every single freaking play
so he doesn't get a pass. So I can go
back in the locker room and be like, great, day
to day you had, Jules, you had zero catches I

(02:13:29):
attend just because you said something that was fed up
to me in the morning. That That's what I'm talking about.
Just finding those tedious moments makes people great. Just finding
that motivation for absolutely no reason that shouldn't even be motivation,
just so you can go out there and just drive
yourself to another level. It's like coach saying something to

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you three days ago in a meeting that you don't like,
and You're gonna go out there and prove to him
that he was wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:13:54):
Verry, Verry Sayings was titious.

Speaker 3 (02:13:58):
Yes he was, hopefully we thank you was I never
met Barry before, never talked to him about this, but
we're going. I mean, he was the greatest of all time.
He had to find motivation somehow every single time.

Speaker 1 (02:14:11):
One of the great showdowns on Monday Night Football that
I still remember was the Barry vers em game.

Speaker 2 (02:14:16):
We haven't done it on games and names. Need to
do it on games and names.

Speaker 1 (02:14:19):
But it was Week four and the ninety four season
Monday Night Football. Cowboys hosted the Lions and Detroit went
up into Cowboy Land, Jerry World, old Jerry World at
that time, and won twenty seventeen in overtime. Emmett what
a fucking duel. Listen to his stat lines between the
two best running backs in the league in the primes

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of their career, EMMITTT. Smith twenty nine carries one hundred
and forty three.

Speaker 2 (02:14:44):
Yards in a tug.

Speaker 1 (02:14:45):
Barry had to out duel them with forty carries, one
hundred and ninety four yards and one touchdown. Epic battle
between these freaking running backs. That was like a playoff
game intensity, the closest you can get to playoff intensity.
And it was because it was Emmitt Smith versus fucking
Barry Sanders. It was such a crazy match.

Speaker 2 (02:15:03):
You remember that game?

Speaker 3 (02:15:05):
They were really young though.

Speaker 2 (02:15:06):
I know I remember that game a little bit because
I was a little bit older than me. This was
in ninety four. This is my first year of football.

Speaker 3 (02:15:13):
Yeah, I don't remember. This was I was five years old,
so I was eight years old. Like, what made the
Detroit Lions like not good during that era? Because they
had Barry Sanders? What made them not good?

Speaker 2 (02:15:23):
Bad? Offensive line? Bad? Like did they have more? What
was it? What was the reason why they weren't good?
Jeeles You need a quarterback? No quarterback, no quarterback. And
they went through a lot of coaches, I think, and
they got through a lot of coaches. I don't know.
He deserved better. He deserved I mean he that deserve.
I mean thankful for Barry. Everyone's thankful for Barry Thanksgiving

(02:15:48):
the episode. He truly deserved better. So who's on the
mount rushmore? Running back? Four? Four running backs top four
of all time?

Speaker 3 (02:15:56):
O man, I mean you got to put those two
in that category.

Speaker 2 (02:15:59):
Jim Brown's got in there.

Speaker 3 (02:16:01):
Jim Brown. Then I'm gonna go with Adrian Peterson as
my fourth. What about Walter Payton. I know, but he's
before your time. He is before my time. Yes, I
don't really know too much about Walter Payon.

Speaker 2 (02:16:12):
Marsha Lynch sew Lynch. I mean, but is he great
all the time? No, he's not. He's not.

Speaker 3 (02:16:18):
He's not on Mount Rushmore now Mount Rushmore. He's one
of the greatest known running backs of all time, one
of the best personalities of all time too.

Speaker 1 (02:16:26):
Do you remember Bill always talking about Jim Brown and
how like dominant he was. If we'd be talking, he'd
hear us talking to locker room about some He goes, well,
you guys see Jim Brown fucking dominant, like he was
just a man child. All old timers love Jim Brown
like that's their guy. We didn't get to watch him
in the flesh, so like you don't get to appreciate him,

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but you gotta put him on there. I think Barry's
on there.

Speaker 3 (02:16:51):
Tomlinson lt. Lt. I mean, it's hard to do a
Mount Rushmore of running back. Marshall Falk, oh Man show
Falk was so good.

Speaker 1 (02:16:59):
I'm wanna go this my Mount Rushmore, but go Jim Brown,
Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Marshall Falk. Marshall Falk being the
fourth because he's like that, the tweener, the new generation
running back where this guy could catch a hundred fucking
balls and rush for a thousand yards in the same season,

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which I think he did.

Speaker 2 (02:17:22):
There was Bo Jackson, he didn't have enough. Thrman Thomas
was a monster. Earl Campbell. Eric Dickerson Slate would be
mad at us. His slate's dad blocked room gals. He didn't.
He didn't have a long career though. It's so manny Man.

Speaker 3 (02:17:38):
That's tough to do a mount rushmore.

Speaker 1 (02:17:39):
Oh yeah, Barry was behind Thurman Thomas at Oklahoma State.
Oklahoma State had some running backs. How about that running
back room in college? Derman Thomas fucking Barry Sanders. They
went natty that year. How you not win the National
championship with those two guys. The saddest stat of Barry's career, though,
is that he only played in six playoff games.

Speaker 2 (02:18:00):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:18:01):
Everyone loves Barry Sanders. Everyone wanted to see his career
just keep on going ten minutes. What kind of dude
is Barry Sanders free?

Speaker 2 (02:18:10):
No one is ever like when you watch him move,
No one's ever moved like Barry Sanders.

Speaker 3 (02:18:16):
Just so elusive and looks like a slinky out there.
He's like a little sky down the stairs, just boom booming.
The slinky is just turning and flipping which way and direction,
always always on, that always lands right back on, you know,
in position, right on his feet at the bottom of
the stairs. That's Barry Sanders for you. I mean, that's
some freaky ability right there.

Speaker 1 (02:18:37):
I bet you he was a crazy positive dude. The
dude dude too in the locker room. I bet you
was super cool. He's probably like sweet feet.

Speaker 2 (02:18:44):
Super quiet, James White, quiet, just professional.

Speaker 1 (02:18:49):
But he's also a fucking dog where he didn't have
I mean, he didn't have an offensive line for like
half his career and he still had the numbers he
had on three you state years one, two, two, three.

Speaker 2 (02:19:00):
Dog, he's a freak man. You gotta go freak.

Speaker 3 (02:19:04):
You gotta go freak. His physical ability of just being
able to bend the way he bends, and just a
vision that he has one on one instinct. He was
not getting tackled. People were falling headfirst into the ground.
Like I said earlier, you just never seen it. He
was making people look silly like they didn't belong out there.

Speaker 2 (02:19:19):
It was like pop one.

Speaker 3 (02:19:20):
Or when the guy's just that much better than everyone
else and just running around the field and they could
be all twelve eleven guys in the field in front
of him, and he can make all eleven miss. That's
freaky instincts right there.

Speaker 1 (02:19:32):
But when you see Barry Sanders in clothes or do
you look at him like me and that guy's a freak.

Speaker 3 (02:19:37):
No, you don't. But we're categorizing freak in that way
only then is if how you see someone he is
a one of one, exactly one of One's a freaks.
He was just a freak out at a lower level
of physical stature.

Speaker 2 (02:19:52):
He reminds me of a little race cars on the
electric tracks where he could just start stop, start stop
start stop, hillo fast. He's a freaking, He's a freak.
Let's go. We'll be right back after this quick break.

Speaker 3 (02:20:06):
This dude, standing at six foot and weighing two hundred
and thirty four pounds, is a dynamic running back drafted
as a second overall pick in two thousand and eighteen
to a team that almost ruined his career, and that
he was smart enough to leave, and that team was

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dumb enough to let him leave.

Speaker 2 (02:20:29):
It says it, no, it doesn't. It says it. Wow,
that was not me. You cannot blame that on me.
It's AI is saying cheese. Ay, I knows everything they do.

Speaker 3 (02:20:37):
He quickly established himself as a dynamic player known for
his explosive speed and versatility, amassing over two thousand yards
from scrimmage in his rookie season and winning Offensive Rookie
of the Year. Throughout his sixth year career, he has
earned three Pro Bowls. Born in the Bronx, he mainly
grew up in Pennsylvania, playing high school football there and
then committing to Penn State, where he was a two

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time Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year and was
fourth in the Heisman voting in two thousand and seventeen.
He considers himself the goat No. Of Connect Ford, of
Connect four, with Christian McCaffrey being the only person who
has beaten him Connect four.

Speaker 2 (02:21:19):
Let's get into.

Speaker 3 (02:21:21):
Quadzilla say Quad Barkley, Qualm, Barkley Sat Quad, Barkley Quad. Well,
that's the first thing I think. This is his quads.
It's how big and beastly and filling they are, and
and just just how massive and and just explosive those

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quads are, and how he can stomp on anyone and
probably kill him if if he did. If he was
in WWE, hold on, where's my hat? If he was
in WW they probably won't allow the because you know
those leg drops they do. He would do the sock
quad Barkley leg drop and it would be called the
sack quad boom, and he would drop his quad and
the wrestler would be dead right on the spot.

Speaker 2 (02:22:02):
Yeah, what's the first thing you think of, Jordan? The
first thing I think of is, Man, I can't believe
I'm putting on a Philadelphia hat, right, I can't put
the Philly hat on. I can't. I did really quick,
and then it bounced off my head. Wha, I mean whatever, No,
But the thing is I I you always thought he

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would be a giant for the rest of his life,
and boy was that one giant loss. To lose Barkley,
I mean, and to see him go out and do
what he's doing this year with a really good football team,
I mean, this is this is what you want for
a guy like Saquon Barkley, because he's just a good ass. Dude.

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I mean you look.

Speaker 1 (02:22:44):
You look in the last game of the year or
in the playoffs, the four minute situation breaks, a big
run stops down, the whole team's like, why didn't you score?

Speaker 2 (02:22:53):
And he's over here as long as we win. Like
that's the kind of guy. Saquon is. Team player, I've
got to hang out with him. Had a whole bunch
of coola.

Speaker 3 (02:23:01):
That actually makes it even more surprising and more hurtful
to the Giants fan base that he was such a
team player as well and they still let him.

Speaker 2 (02:23:09):
Go, still let him go. H I mean, who's calling
the shots over there?

Speaker 3 (02:23:13):
I think I really don't want to blame Dable because
I love Dable and he's like one of my favorite
coaches of all time, but like he's the head coach,
but like the head coach doesn't call the shots about
who comes in and out as the players. I think
you got to put it on the GM correct and
kind of the owner as well, because the owner said

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he's going to not be able to sleep at night
if Sakuon Barkley goes to the Philadelphia Eagles and then
he goes to the Philadelphia Eagles, well.

Speaker 2 (02:23:42):
You could have easily stepped.

Speaker 3 (02:23:43):
In and offered about two three million dollars more just
to keep you know, Sakwon Barkley on the New York Giants.
And let me tell you for a second, this is
this is my problem. He left because there was an
argument over like five hundred thousand dollars or a million dollars,
a million bucks, a million bucks? What twelve what is
he getting paid twelve million dollars million or whatever, thirteen

(02:24:07):
million dollars whatever it is, and the Giants offered a
one last million dollars. Well, I can tell you this,
he's still underpaid by at least ten million dollars. He is,
and there was an argument about not paying on because
of a million dollars with the Giants organization. He's going
to really put it into perspective. Just think about that.

Speaker 1 (02:24:25):
Yeah, he's he's literally catapulted this Philadelphia team.

Speaker 2 (02:24:31):
He's that good of a football player. He's had that
he had a magical year.

Speaker 1 (02:24:34):
He went over two thousand yards, regardless of how many
games whatever, to go out there and put that performance
on that he did this year coming from the rival team.
This is like a this like a Disney movie. If
they go and win the Super Bowl. If they win
the Super Bowl, I think Disney's probably gonna there's a

(02:24:55):
Court Warner movie. So the Disney will make a freaking
this movie. I feel yeah, And it's just a movie.

Speaker 2 (02:25:01):
Is a movie.

Speaker 3 (02:25:01):
It shows how great of a player he really was,
because when he was with the Giants, he really had
absolutely zero help.

Speaker 2 (02:25:06):
He had no line.

Speaker 3 (02:25:08):
There really wasn't any skill players around him, he had
no really no quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:25:12):
And he's still hurt his knee. And then he came
back and took him a year to get right, and
then he had a really good year last year, like.

Speaker 3 (02:25:17):
Still ball, I'm talking ball and now that it just
shows if you really want to thrive, if you really
want to have the best year ever, it does take
a team effort, but you just got to find that situation.
He found that situation in Philly, and now his talents
are even thriving to a whole nother level because he
has such a beastly line in front of him and
he's got great coaching around him.

Speaker 2 (02:25:37):
He's got great.

Speaker 3 (02:25:38):
Players as well, at the skill player at the skill
position around him. That's why he went for over two
thousand yards you know, this season in just a regular
season He's just a phenomenal athlete that is one of
is one of the one of the athletes that you
only see once per decade, once per every years, generational player, big.

Speaker 2 (02:25:59):
Time you ever you ever hang out with him?

Speaker 3 (02:26:02):
I never hung out with say Kwon Barkley. I never have.

Speaker 2 (02:26:05):
I kind of wanted.

Speaker 3 (02:26:05):
I just really want to see his quads and person, bro,
I just want to look. I hope he has like
short shorts on, like he's in the eighties, so I
can just stare at him.

Speaker 2 (02:26:13):
I went to the I went to the I went
to the met gala and we ended up it was me,
him and Obj. We were all hanging out because we were,
you know, the athletes there, and we had a great time.
But I saw he was wearing a skirt. I would
too if I had those damn quads in that. I
was like, holy shit, I had nightmares. His squads were

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so goddamn big, and I saw the whole thing in
like a skirt alt regardless, it was like it looked
like a skirt, but it was crazy. We had such
a fun time.

Speaker 1 (02:26:46):
He's an awesome dude, and that's why I love seeing
him have this success. I remember we went we got
we were we were having some adult beverages, and me
and Odell we've been in the league for a while
by that time, and and we we wanted to want
to go to McDonald real quick. And he was like
such a young kid, like, hey man, I don't eat McDonald's.
You guys eat McDonald's. I was like, dude, he's.

Speaker 3 (02:27:07):
One of those guys.

Speaker 2 (02:27:08):
Just McDonald's to the face and just he wouldn't know.

Speaker 5 (02:27:10):
He didn't want oh, alright, he didn't want me, all right,
all right. He was makes some great tunsip discipline. And
also what makes you great is just the way that
he plays a game. He's powerful, he has great pat
level as well. It's like he's like the perfect running
back because like he's got size, he's not like his skin,
he's thick, but he's also really shit. You know how

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hard that is to find a running back like that,
thick and shifty. He's I mean, he's he's got great downfield.

Speaker 2 (02:27:39):
Vision as well.

Speaker 3 (02:27:39):
And as you can see this year, I mean, right
when he breaks through the hole, he already knows he's
going to the house. You could just tell. Because of
that vision, he can see the whole entire field. The
cutback lanes that he creates, you know, are iron and
pressed off.

Speaker 2 (02:27:52):
I mean, he's just an.

Speaker 3 (02:27:52):
Overall all around great running back, first second, third down,
as well great work ethic, like you said, kind of.
You just know he's great work ethic by the workouts
that you see that that are on the internet. Also
the discipline, not eating McDonald's at two am, even being tipsy,
and even with influences like you to trying to get
him to eat mcdonland fel for it in a quick second.

Speaker 2 (02:28:13):
Not even a nugget, and not even a nugget, not
even a mcflurry.

Speaker 3 (02:28:16):
You're kidding me, How can you not even have a
spoonful of a mcflurry at two am. But what's most
impressive about him, and what really you know, gets this
offense to a whole other level for the Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (02:28:26):
Eagles is his big play ability.

Speaker 3 (02:28:29):
When you got big playability players on your team, that's
why you're in championship games.

Speaker 2 (02:28:35):
Yeah, and he's got he'll he'll be remembered.

Speaker 1 (02:28:39):
He'll be remembered for as long as football is going
because we all see these historic plays and these historical
shots him doing a back reversal. Oh freaking lounge hurdlet lunch.

Speaker 2 (02:28:54):
Thing over another human being that's a tall guy.

Speaker 1 (02:28:58):
That's gonna be remembered and it's gonna be like just
like when we see the immaculate reception with Frank o'harris
or you know, one of the crazy hits by freaking
Odell Beckham catch, you know all these crazy that's gonna
be remembered forever.

Speaker 2 (02:29:13):
And you want to know it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:29:14):
It's like you play Madden like it's a video game,
Like it's like exaggerated how talented these players are. No,
not for sake one exactly, and like these moves that
sometimes you can do when you hit all the buttons,
like the guy does a move that you never seen
before and you're like, ah, that's unrealistic. Say Qualm Barkley
did such an unrealistic hurdle three sixty one eighty jump

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and landed it that Madden didn't even have that in
the game, and that Madden had to add that play
to add that move or whatever it's called. What is
that called that that's just athleticism or that button. So
now you can be able to use that and hurdle
over someone wild three six in the in the area
on maddened.

Speaker 2 (02:29:58):
I mean, I hope so.

Speaker 1 (02:29:59):
I think Madden they just called the button mash where
you just mash all the buttons. Does a Sakwon Barkley
backflip jump thing over a hurdle?

Speaker 3 (02:30:06):
There we go. He's a button masher, button masher and
mashes defenders as well.

Speaker 1 (02:30:12):
Now what do you think about what do you think
about him sitting for Eric Dickerson's record he needed what
a hundred and something?

Speaker 3 (02:30:18):
I think it just shows what you were talking about earlier,
just how big of a team player he was. He
was looking at the big pitcher and that's Super Bowl. Yeah,
he could have gotten the record, but what if he
just got hurt getting the record and then he wasn't
there throughout the playoffs and look at the damage he
already did in the playoffs. The reason why they won
that game versus Los Angeles Rams was because he was
playing in the game, and he rushed for two touchdowns,

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both of them over fifty yards, and I think he
went for like an over two hundred yards as well rushing.
So it just shows what type of team player he is,
and just overall, just the goal and mindset of winning
at all. And that's what it's all about this only.
This is only good if they win the Super Bowl.

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If they don't win the Super Bowl, this is a
but this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:31:05):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (02:31:05):
But he can also break the all time record including
playoffs and regular season, which I think he will break that.
I think he's about one hundred something yards away.

Speaker 2 (02:31:14):
What kind of dude is Quad Barkley? Oh? What kind
of dude?

Speaker 3 (02:31:19):
Oh man?

Speaker 2 (02:31:20):
I mean, grew up kind of dude is he? He
grew up right, like, grew up in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania. Great
football there, great football, you know that great HiPE you
born tough New York. I think he depends. I think
he has a lot of boxing in his backgrounds, a
lot of boxing in his background. From what I recall reading,
he's definitely got. He's a dog. He is a dog.

Speaker 3 (02:31:43):
But he kind of is a freak as well, because because,
like you said, when he was wearing that kilt, you
were like, whoa, Like, that's that's what we talk about.
When you see a freak, it's because of their facetiest nature. Yes,
and you were that's some physical nature that blew your mind.

Speaker 2 (02:32:03):
It was it was mind blowing. It was kind of
like the first time when I saw Dante High Towers Calves.
Oh freaky. You've got some big ass cats.

Speaker 3 (02:32:10):
Imagine if you're combined, if you made one leg and
you had Dante High Towers Calves and say Kwon Barkley's squad.

Speaker 1 (02:32:17):
You would get like someone you would I think that
person it would be like the Hawk, Actually, I think
that person would. He could do a tug of war
with a fucking like what's whatever, the best super diesel
truck there is.

Speaker 2 (02:32:30):
He can probably with that leg.

Speaker 3 (02:32:32):
Three fifty definitely actually screw it an eighteen wheeler.

Speaker 1 (02:32:37):
And you could probably take down an eighteen whorld wheeler.
He's definitely a dude's dude as well.

Speaker 2 (02:32:42):
Because because of how big of a team player is the.

Speaker 1 (02:32:45):
Team player, I mean to go and be the most
hated guy for a team and then join that team
and then become such a big leader that it's a parent.

Speaker 2 (02:32:57):
You know, we were all at the.

Speaker 3 (02:32:57):
Whole locker room and fan base. But that story that
you told me about when he was in the kill,
that's just sticking to my head.

Speaker 2 (02:33:05):
So I know what I'm going with one two three freak. Yeah, man,
he's see those legs two hundred and thirty pounds.

Speaker 1 (02:33:13):
Is not supposed to do jump flips, back hurdles over
men that are trying to kill you.

Speaker 3 (02:33:19):
Only when you got quads like that, though there was
quad Zilla University of Alabama.

Speaker 2 (02:33:25):
Another Alabama road tag, Crimson Tad currently plays for the
Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore Freaking Ravens is currently in talks of
winning the MVP probably Offensive Player of the Year. They
don't give that the running backs.

Speaker 3 (02:33:39):
Is currently gonna be on the best rushing team statistically right,
statistically statistically in NFL history with Lamar Jackson, are they
on pace?

Speaker 2 (02:33:52):
They got it?

Speaker 3 (02:33:52):
They gotta be on pace.

Speaker 2 (02:33:53):
Derek freaking number twenty two Henry.

Speaker 3 (02:33:57):
The Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 2 (02:33:59):
Let's get to the synopsis.

Speaker 3 (02:34:01):
AI Derrick Henry, standing at six foot three inches and
weighing two hundred and forty seven pounds, is a dominant
NFL running back, renowned for his rare combination of size, speed,
and power, making him one of the most feared rushers
in the league. He has a mass over ten thousand
rushing yards and ninety eight touchdowns in his career, earning
multiple Pro Bowl selections and the twenty twenty NFL Offensive

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Player of the Year award. In high school, Derek set
the national record for career rushing yards when it astonishing
twelve thousand, one hundred and twenty four yards at Yule
High School in Florida, averaging two hundred and fifty yards
per game. See, I got to read really fast because
he has so many stats. I want to make sure
we get through it. At the University of Alabama, Henry
won the Heisman Trophy and set both the single season
and career rushing records. I mean, this guy breaks every

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record at whatever level he's at. I wonder what the
Pop Warner stats were.

Speaker 2 (02:34:47):
Easy.

Speaker 3 (02:34:47):
We can't get there because it's just will take away.

Speaker 2 (02:34:49):
Ay. I's got it all though.

Speaker 3 (02:34:50):
Yeah. While he spent most of his career with the
Tennessee Titans, setting the single season rushing records record with
twenty twenty seven yards in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (02:34:58):
He is currently he beat Johnson two k with that.

Speaker 3 (02:35:01):
With that number right there, he is currently studying impressive
records with the Baltimore Ravens, including the team's franchise record
and most Russian touchdowns in a single season. Already, and
it's only like not even halfway through. You know, this
season Henry is celebrated for his work, ethic and humble
personality off the field, where he is involved in charity
work and is regarded as a role model.

Speaker 2 (02:35:22):
Start that clock, start the clock. First off, I.

Speaker 3 (02:35:25):
Want to get to this right off the point. His
nickname is King Henry. There's a guy in basketball that
we all know him, know him as is King James.
Who is the ultimate King Jules, King Henry or King James.

Speaker 2 (02:35:40):
Let's hear your thoughts.

Speaker 1 (02:35:42):
King Henry or King James. Lebron is a generational guy.
But if he's talk about King Henry, he's a generational guy.
This guy two hundred and forty seven pounds running away
from people. That is such a hard question. I didn't
even know you're gonna ask me that.

Speaker 2 (02:35:59):
I'm going. I'm a football guy. I gotta go. I
gotta go King Henry. It sounds better.

Speaker 1 (02:36:06):
Is there was there King James back in the day.
It's probably King James back in the day, isn't it?
Is that why it's King I just put that together.
They both have kind of king names. They got both
king names. I like King Henry.

Speaker 2 (02:36:17):
I'm going King Henry, just don't name because it sounds
but there's a King James back there. I'm going Derrick Henry.

Speaker 3 (02:36:24):
Alright, I like that pick. And what's incredible about you know,
Derrick Henry is you know you said that size. It's
just impressive and how he can move what two hundred
and forty seven pounds, But I swear he looks huge.

Speaker 2 (02:36:37):
He looks massive.

Speaker 3 (02:36:38):
He's two forty seven, but I swear he plays and
looks bigger than he even it's like he's six three,
two forty seven. It's like, no, no, no, no, he's
like six six eighty running the ball. That's what it
looks like.

Speaker 2 (02:36:53):
I remember when we played against him. I walked by
him after the game, like, who the fuck is his
defensive end? Oh my god, it that's Hendry. That's Jesus.
He's so big that no, I wouldn't want to tackle him. No,
he wants to tackle him.

Speaker 1 (02:37:10):
I mean, screwed them, they say at the end of
the game. I'm not tackling at the beginning of the game.
You might get a concussion getting one of the knee drives.

Speaker 2 (02:37:17):
He got some. He looks like a goddamn semi truck.
That's on fucking nos, he is a semi trucks. Yes,
that's Racis, That's what he is. He's a semi truck.

Speaker 3 (02:37:30):
Like when he sees that hole open, like he hits
that buttonious curious, he just.

Speaker 2 (02:37:38):
Flies right through the whole.

Speaker 3 (02:37:39):
I think he was what so far he clicked in
as the second fastest player as a ball carrier in
the NFL quarter recorded second fastest player. I mean, freaking
ridiculous being that size. What I love about him too, Man,
he's a true role model.

Speaker 2 (02:37:54):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:37:54):
He's never gets in trouble, never, never on the field,
never off kingsdom is he in trouble. He doesn't smoke,
he doesn't drink. He eats completely clean. He's basically on
the Tom Brady diet. I think while he might be vegan,
I'm not. I'm not sure about that. He could possibly
could be.

Speaker 2 (02:38:13):
I mean, no gluten, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:38:15):
He you know, cuts the sugar down. It's all real
sugar and fruits and all that good stuff. He takes
care of his body, does the cryotank sig on us.

Speaker 2 (02:38:23):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:38:23):
He actually goes to the same treatment guy that I
see as well, my friend Bobo who's out of Nashville.
He gets those vitamin bags and hydration bags. To make
sure that he's always good to go. You know, on
top of his games, he's always burning fuel, so he's
got to always make sure the vitamins and fuel are
always coming in.

Speaker 2 (02:38:40):
He's just doing.

Speaker 3 (02:38:40):
Everything right, and that's what I love about him. He's
a great example to the young generation.

Speaker 2 (02:38:46):
Have you seen his off season workouts on YouTube?

Speaker 3 (02:38:48):
Yeah, and I've actually worked out with him before one time,
one time in Dallas, Texas.

Speaker 2 (02:38:53):
Yes. Let me tell you, man, this guy don't get tired.
He don't get tired. What'd you guys do for a workout?

Speaker 3 (02:38:58):
And like I was with my brother, my two brothers,
and like we were just looking at his arms, and
like his arm was bigger than all three of our
arms combined. That's why I don't understand how he doesn't
weigh like two hundred and eighty pounds, Like I weighed
to sixty and he's twelve pounds less than me. And
I'm like, but your arms are three times the size
of mine. Like I don't like, I think he's tricking everyone.

(02:39:18):
I think he really is too eighty. But you know
in pop Warner, when they don't let you play because
you're eight. Anyway, I don't think the NFL would let
him play if he weighs in at two eighty at
the running back position. So I think he literally is
to eighty because he's that big, but they just list
him as two forty seven, so he's actually qualified to
play in the Dude.

Speaker 2 (02:39:38):
Yeah, so you're working out with what year was this?

Speaker 3 (02:39:41):
This was a I think last year, a year and
a half ago, two years ago.

Speaker 2 (02:39:45):
First thing, the guy, you say, damn, his arms so
big in your.

Speaker 3 (02:39:51):
The first thing I said. I was memorized. And what's
another thing about him too, Like he's having this career
year with the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 2 (02:40:00):
It looks like he has an age.

Speaker 3 (02:40:01):
Yeah, he has an age because, like I said, he
does everything right, and when you do everything right and
take care of your body like that, you don't age.
He hasn't lost a step and he's just getting faster
and faster, bigger and bigger. He has that motivation still
like he's thirty years old as a running back, has
taken so many shots to the body, and I feel
like I just feel it like he has a chip

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because like I feel like the Tennessee Titans, you know,
kind of didn't give him that respect, that he deserved
last year, you know, like they were like, oh, we
got to change up our offense.

Speaker 2 (02:40:32):
All we do is give the ball to Derek Henry.
Like they let Derek Henry walk, one of their.

Speaker 3 (02:40:37):
Best generational, generational talents on the offense side of the
ball in the history of the Titans, and they let
him walk that easily. That kind of shows a little disrespect.
I mean, it might have not been disrespect, but it
just shows like they didn't really trust in him or
thought his career was going down.

Speaker 2 (02:40:55):
So I think he's on a.

Speaker 3 (02:40:57):
Rampage to show the Titans, Hey, look what you're missing
out on. You thought, oh, we got to switch up
the offense because we're handing me the ball too much.

Speaker 2 (02:41:06):
Well that's all the Tennessee Titians had, was handing the
ball to him. Well it's not just the Tennessee Titans
that are part of his fuel. Everyone else could have
signed him. Everyone else. I thought he was done. Dallas
Cowboys need a running back. They could have signed him.

Speaker 3 (02:41:21):
Oh man, we don't even got to get into that.
I mean, but I read in the news for the
last month with Jerry Johns.

Speaker 1 (02:41:27):
But this is you know, this is some like Tom
Brady type stuff. You know, because at thirty one at
a running back, he's doing things that don't that's not normal.
This is not normal, and that that's why this is
so freaky. He doesn't eat sugars, he doesn't do He
takes care of his body, he doesn't eat any fried foods.
He works out like crazy. He fries his defenses, he

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fries defenses. Well, when you were talking about chips, I
was like, man, you know, he's a big chip on
his shoulder. He probably doesn't have any chips.

Speaker 2 (02:41:56):
Probably. I was thinking that because those are fried. I
was like, man, he's not. He's not falling in into
our tostitos commercials.

Speaker 3 (02:42:03):
Noh. He sees the commercials like, oh those are good commercials,
jewels and gronk, but I ain't eating those.

Speaker 2 (02:42:07):
No, he don't eat those. He didn't need to do that.
Naughty cal chips, Yeah, he probably he does some kale chips.
Two hundred and forty seven pounds, ninety nine yard touchdown.
That is that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:42:18):
I remember watching that play and what everyone always says
with Derrick Henry when you're playing against him. I remember
Bill always talking about it. You cannot let this man
get going keep his feet moving. You gotta have pressure
in the middle of the pocket. If you let the
train go, you ain't getting on it. And and that's
exactly what that ninety nine yard touchdown was where he
stiffed armed. The dude still gets to speed, gives a

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little back backwards, stiff arm, still gets to high speed.
It's something like you said, you marvel at when you
see a person that does things that have never been
done before like that.

Speaker 3 (02:42:52):
It's kind of like myself a little bit. And that's
why I love I love the way he plays. I mean,
I love all big men out there. Whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:43:00):
He love big men, Yeah, I love big men.

Speaker 3 (02:43:01):
It's dudes on dudes here, of course. I love big men.

Speaker 2 (02:43:04):
I like big guys.

Speaker 3 (02:43:05):
Yeah, big sweaty men as well, and guys sweating. Because
he's always running for two hundred plus yards every single game.

Speaker 2 (02:43:12):
Every game, he's on pace. Flag dam, he's on pace
to beat the record this year he has.

Speaker 3 (02:43:15):
He has some of the greatest stiff arms in the game.

Speaker 2 (02:43:19):
You do too, you're your stiff arm.

Speaker 3 (02:43:21):
I had a couple, but not as many as Derek
County because he has touched the ball like one hundred
thousand more times than than myself and he's still going.
It's crazy and he's still going. It's like, you know,
he's twenty one years old out there.

Speaker 2 (02:43:31):
To the amount of times he's touched the ball and
he hasn't had like knock on wood, he just has
he can last. Where does he rank in all time
running backs?

Speaker 3 (02:43:42):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:43:42):
Man, he's got to be up there. He's got a
two thousand yard Season's got to.

Speaker 3 (02:43:46):
Be up there. The reason why he doesn't, you know,
maybe get the respect you know that he should have been,
like an all time great running back is because he's
not a traditional running back like those other greats. They're
all more like pity pattern, make five guys.

Speaker 1 (02:43:59):
Miss, and then Jim Brown he's kind of Jim Brownie. Yeah,
but he's just so Jim Brown was so much bigger
and athletic than everyone. He's to swat those guys around.

Speaker 3 (02:44:09):
Derek Hunney's game is a little bit different. When he
sees that hole, he just hits that noss like you said,
and just goes right through it, runs over entire one
in his way. It's just incredible how he can do that.

Speaker 2 (02:44:21):
Was he like a Dickerson Dickerson Dickerson away knees straight
up a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:44:27):
I think he could possibly end up being one of
the greatest, top three greatest running backs to ever play
all time, all time, because if he continues this path
for another four or five more years, which he has
not shown any decline, any decline at all, any at all.

Speaker 2 (02:44:44):
He hasn't slowed down one single bit.

Speaker 3 (02:44:46):
He only gets better, and he's a different style of
a running back.

Speaker 1 (02:44:50):
And he's going against littler defenses right now, Yes he is.
These defenses are all built up for the past. Ah
a bunch of receivers.

Speaker 3 (02:44:58):
I love his game because he's a big man. I
love big man man's Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:45:04):
Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, EMMITTT Smith, Adrian Peterson,
Dereck Henry. I mean this generation that's great right now?
Is our generations great? The last great running back after this.

Speaker 1 (02:45:19):
McCoy's in there, Shady's in there, but like I'm talking generational.

Speaker 3 (02:45:24):
If he wins a championship, he's up there. If he
wins the super Bowl this year.

Speaker 1 (02:45:28):
If he wins the Super Bowl, I mean, it's it's
so crazy that on this episode we've talked about Madden
characters like you have your two, like complete opposite Madden
characters you have, Like when you make the funny little
guy on your Madden that's like ninety nine everything, and
then you get your like your funny big guy. It's
like six foot four running back like Derrick Henry that

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can outrun people. It's it's it's crazy these guys. He's
a free You don't see guys that big run that
fast and take that much pounding and get up and
do it over and over and over. And I feel
like we see a fifty plus run every year, every
like three times a year with this guy fifty plus run.

Speaker 3 (02:46:08):
Wait, three times a year more like every other week
he has a fifty plus y ever, is it not crazy?

Speaker 2 (02:46:14):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:46:14):
He's got a huge chest as well, like like his
irons are massive, but like I swear, his chest it
looks like the rock, you know when the rock has
a shut off and the chest goes like oo, Like
it's that massive.

Speaker 2 (02:46:27):
He's jacked.

Speaker 3 (02:46:28):
He looks exact same as he did, you know in
high school. He has the same frame, but like every
year he just got bigger and wider and wider like
he was. It looked like he was six or three
already in high school and just can run all day.
But he's just growing and growing and growing and growing
every single year.

Speaker 2 (02:46:46):
Vernon Davis, he was staying like he was like that
as a kid, and he kept on getting bigger and bigger,
and his speed never got slower and slower, like it's
that's like anomaly. Shit.

Speaker 1 (02:46:58):
I mean he could be the greatest run back in
high school's history. Freshman year twenty four hundred yards, twenty
six tds, Sophomore year twenty seven hundred yards, thirty eight tds,
a little dip in the junior with twenty six hundred
yards and freaking thirty four TV's just to top it
off a senior year. Let me just put the cherry

(02:47:19):
on the old top. Let's go forty two hundred yards
and fifty five?

Speaker 2 (02:47:23):
What the who is he playing? Who is he playing?
In thirty five t h eight touchdowns a game high
school in Florida. They got some legiti as that eight
do they have record? I didn't know they put things
on records in high school. That is fucking crazy. Twelve
thousand yards in four years. This guy has been a

(02:47:45):
freak since high school. One hundred and fifty touchdowns in
four years. Do the math.

Speaker 3 (02:47:51):
He's a Hall of Famer at the high school level,
hall of Famer at the college level, and a Hall
of Famer at the NFL.

Speaker 1 (02:47:58):
First ballot, without it, without a doubt, it's crazy time.
What kind of dude is Dereck Henry is a freak.

Speaker 2 (02:48:05):
I don't even got it.

Speaker 3 (02:48:06):
Negotiations, it's I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:48:08):
He is a freak. He's a dog. He is a dog.
He's a freak.

Speaker 3 (02:48:12):
But he's absolute freak of nature, heck of a player.
No one can tackle him.

Speaker 2 (02:48:17):
The guy was born to run. Let's get on Michael
straight Hand. All right, ladies and gentlemen, Let's do it.
Michael straight Hand. Let's see what the synopsis is about
Michael Michael Strahan German episode? Why Yeah? Why?

Speaker 3 (02:48:31):
Why is Michael Strahan on the Germany episode?

Speaker 2 (02:48:34):
Why?

Speaker 3 (02:48:35):
Why about it?

Speaker 2 (02:48:37):
Well, let's start the clock. Let's see. Let's see how
smart AI is? Why he is on this episode? I
don't think AI would even that.

Speaker 3 (02:48:43):
I don't know, all right. Michael Strahan was a dominant
defensive end for the New York Giants, known for his
impressive career stats including one hundred and forty one zero
point five sacks, seven Pro Bowl selections. Holy Moly, one
hundred and forty one and a half sack Wow. Born

(02:49:06):
in Houston, Texas, he spent a significant part of his
childhood in Germany due to his father's military service. The
God explains it right there, he is smile. I does
have the answers. He smart after retiring from football, straight
hand transists. After retiring from football, straight hand transition to
a successful media career, becoming a co host on Good

(02:49:29):
Morning America and an analyst on Fox NFL Sunday. He.

Speaker 2 (02:49:34):
I mean he replaced Regis off the field.

Speaker 3 (02:49:37):
He's known for his charismatic personality and dedication to his family.

Speaker 2 (02:49:44):
Ay, I is full of shit. Why why would you
say that he didn't mention one thing about his gap?
Oh yeah, you're right, his teeth.

Speaker 1 (02:49:50):
It's like he's like known world. He's literally that gap
has literally been in space. Man, Michael's straight hand is
so cool. I mean, he really has been a freaking
inspiration for athletes post career, post like football career.

Speaker 3 (02:50:09):
Well, hold on, I'm gonna stop you right there. He's
been an inspiration since the beginning of time. Man, with
what he's been through growing up all the way through
his college days, then getting to the NFL and fighting
all odds and then having that post career inspiration.

Speaker 2 (02:50:26):
What is is that he's an army brat. They call
it right when he's His dad was in the army.
He lived in Germany. His I guess his uncle played
in the NFL. Art Street and I think he lived
with uncle. Pop shipped him from Germany. Then he went
to Texas Southern, that's southern. He didn't play any high school.
He played fresh.

Speaker 1 (02:50:48):
I mean, it's it's literally the story of fresh Prince.
Listen to this except Philadelphia in Germany year the.

Speaker 2 (02:50:53):
High school he went to.

Speaker 3 (02:50:55):
Two people.

Speaker 2 (02:50:56):
What do you mean there's two people in his high
school in his class? How do you have two people
in Germany? Did you go to high school in Germany?

Speaker 3 (02:51:04):
No, he went to the high school in Texas somewhere.

Speaker 2 (02:51:07):
I just know.

Speaker 3 (02:51:08):
The continued joke week in and week out with Jay
Glazer and Michael Strahan is that Michael finished in top
of his class because there's only two people. Even I
could finish on top of my class when there's just
two people.

Speaker 2 (02:51:22):
That's what you call valed victorian. If we were in
a class of two, who would finish first depends what
subject we're talking about. Math.

Speaker 3 (02:51:29):
Oh I'm number one there reading number one. I can read,
I just can't project that.

Speaker 2 (02:51:36):
Cooking class.

Speaker 3 (02:51:37):
Oh, I'm a cooker, I'm a cooker. I used to
sing growing up, I'm a cooker, I'm a hooker, and
I had no clue what I was really saying, and
my brothers would be laughing at me. But I was
like eight years old.

Speaker 2 (02:51:49):
I remember, I'm cooking, I'm hooking, and they all know
what were you cooking at eight years old?

Speaker 3 (02:51:54):
Eggs, eggs, just breakfast, sandwiches, stuff like that. Very easy.

Speaker 2 (02:51:59):
You think Mike straight hand would eat your eggs.

Speaker 3 (02:52:01):
He would eat my eggs, yes he would, And then
he would eat me on the field because he was
all big.

Speaker 2 (02:52:07):
He was an absolute monster. When you put on his film,
you forget how big he is because he's leaned out
so much now, and like he he was like freakishly big.
I mean, he had twenty two and a half sacks
in the season. That's a sack record holder. Yeah, yeah,
Brett fell down, But I mean, regardless, that's what quarterbacks

(02:52:31):
do all the time, now, you know what I mean.
So everyone gives him crap on it. I mean, he
was gonna get the tackle regardless his power. His speed
to power move was insane.

Speaker 1 (02:52:40):
He was just so strong and long, and you could
tell he worked his dick off to end the career
the way he did beat the Patriots undefeated season in
the Super Bowl New York Boston. Then jump over and
instantly sit on like Regis and Kelly. I mean, the
guy has lived just.

Speaker 2 (02:53:02):
A story book, storybook type life and he's overcome shit too.

Speaker 3 (02:53:08):
Yees, he has overcome stuff. I mean, obviously not really
playing football in high school. I don't know where he
played at. And then I think some other high school
around there just took him in like, oh, you're in
our district. It's like a story like that. I'm not
exactly one hundred percent sure. And then he went whatever
college he went to Texas Center. I don't even think
he like really enrolled. It was like, hey, come play

(02:53:28):
football here, and he just showed up and he was
on the team. Like that's kind of his story, like
for real. And then why he was drafted second round
I think by the New York Giants. Yeah, well pick
overall yeh. He was the fortieth overall pick, second round
nineteen ninety three. That's mind blowing right there. Nineteen ninety three,
they was the year he was drafted. Let me tell you,

(02:53:49):
he does not seem that old at all. I feel
like he's like, you know, thirty nine, forty years old.
To this day he's still and he's like fifty two
looks young.

Speaker 2 (02:53:59):
He's got the team going. He does it. Just it
doesn't you don't age.

Speaker 3 (02:54:03):
You want to know, what I really love about him
is that he has no fear in anything he does.
And that's what makes him so great on the field.
No fear against who he was against his opponent. It
didn't matter who he's going against. He was gonna bul
rush him. He was gonna do a move to get
around him, swim around him, or or absolutely take that tackle.
I mean, I've seen some of his highlights and he's

(02:54:25):
just like, I'm gonna keep tossing you buddy, like you
know what I mean, He get care and let you know,
he would tell you he loved talking trash out on
the field. He had a motor of a mouth, he
had a motor of an engine as a football player,
no fear at all, and then he had no fear
in his after career. Goes on TV and he's just
ready to go. He doesn't care, you know what, what's
thrown at him. He's just gonna go with it full

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speed at all times.

Speaker 1 (02:54:50):
He works his tail off and he's a really nice guy,
Like you know, we work with him, and you could
just tell it doesn't matter how big he is the world,
and he treats everyone like so nicely.

Speaker 3 (02:55:03):
Treats everyone the same thing, to everyone with respect, doesn't
matter what position you are in life.

Speaker 2 (02:55:09):
He's along with every what your job title is.

Speaker 3 (02:55:11):
And I just love his story from A to Z
when he first got in the NFL too, I don't
even think he really registered a sack until like his
fourth fifth year in the NFL, and maybe a couple
of sacks, but I know he didn't really turn onto
the scene until about year four or five.

Speaker 2 (02:55:27):
When you watch him and if you had to block him,
what would you do?

Speaker 3 (02:55:31):
I would have been the guy to just chip him.
I would have just want to coach man. This guy
has a motor. He's huge, which he's a big guy already.
I mean I'm next to him on the on the
desk the Fox pre game show, but when I watch
highlights of him, I'm like I'm like, man, he's like
three times the size that you know that he is
right now when he was playing, and he's big right now,

(02:55:53):
but his arms were massive, and like he played like
a guy that was like stock here and already had
leverage because he was he was huge. He's like sixty
five sixty five, and he would get that leverage because
he can play low.

Speaker 2 (02:56:05):
I got a math question for you. Let's here.

Speaker 3 (02:56:07):
I love math.

Speaker 2 (02:56:08):
Between his NFL career and his media career. How many
hours do you think Michael Straighthan has been on TV?

Speaker 3 (02:56:17):
Oh my gosh, that's a math question that's over my head, Jules.

Speaker 2 (02:56:21):
How many hours has Michael straight hand been on TV?
That's a fucking question. Well and well, here's the tricky party.
In a game, while you're playing in the NFL, you're
not on the TV the whole game. No, but I
mean maybe like four minutes a game. No, all right,
I would just say, because you're on the TV longer
than four minutes, because he got you on the sideline.

Speaker 3 (02:56:39):
Yeah, he gets he was getting something that they will
keep the camera on him.

Speaker 2 (02:56:44):
I would say about a million minutes, a million minutes,
a million minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:56:49):
How many years is that a million million minutes. Can
we ask chat GBT or something a million What does
AI say minutes? I mean I said a million minutes.
That's a million minutes. What else do we need to know?
A million minutes is a million minutes? I'm telling you
I'm a mathematician. That's what he equals. What about what
about his get off? Let's talk about it. He's get
off real quick. I mean, that's what made him a

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special player. Is the ability of him to just burst
right off the line and get to the quarterback and
mess up the off of the tackle and a split
second is what made him the great player that he is.
And then he had a get off in his post career,
had a get off while he was playing football.

Speaker 3 (02:57:23):
I mean, this guy is legendary. He's a role model
in the community. Great dad, great dad, great family man,
great teammate to.

Speaker 2 (02:57:31):
Have great teammates, and it's a guy I feel like
you would.

Speaker 3 (02:57:33):
Want on your team and not a guy you want
to be playing against.

Speaker 2 (02:57:37):
Oh yeah, you definitely don't want to play against him
because he's gonna whoop your ass. And you'll let you
know he's whooping your ass. You think Brett exactly exactly.
He does do that. He does do that. He does
that to me and I don't notice.

Speaker 3 (02:57:50):
But I noticed, Mike, I notice what you're doing to
me on Fox Sundays. You're coming at me, but you're
so witty, you're pretending you're not. I got your game down, buddy.
Oh but hey, I got a question. You think Brett
faire was just scared of him, so he kind of
let him have that sack.

Speaker 2 (02:58:05):
Who's not hold on? Hold on my shorts. I'm sorry,
I'm sim with Joel's my shorts. They're just really short. Yeah.
There we go, There we go, and I look better now,
look more professional? Yeah, Brett Farv was I mean, did
you see straight hand? He looks huge. Who wouldn't be
scared of him? Huge? Brett Farv?

Speaker 1 (02:58:26):
I mean I would be scared of him. I was
in the pocket and he got a free release at you, Like,
he beat his defender pretty easy on that play.

Speaker 3 (02:58:34):
Is the pro typical defensive end that you want on
your team. Size, speed, get off power, leg strength.

Speaker 2 (02:58:41):
Get in the run and pass.

Speaker 3 (02:58:43):
Obviously he was gonna covered. Did he ever drop?

Speaker 2 (02:58:47):
I saw?

Speaker 1 (02:58:48):
I saw like one fumble return for a touchdown? Also
crazy fun fact about stray tall sky ever to be
in space six five.

Speaker 3 (02:58:56):
Six, So if I go to space, I'll be the
tas sky Juels, Are you going to go to space?
I'm always spacing out, So yeah, I'm the tallest guy
ever to go to space. Jewels.

Speaker 2 (02:59:12):
So was he like waitless and everything? He got to
do the whole that's pretty crazy the thing he lost.

Speaker 3 (02:59:17):
That plane weight because I don't think he would have
been allowed up because he was really big back then,
Like he would have been way too big for the
spacecraft or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:59:24):
Imagine his space suit, it's pret huge. They probad to
get extra fabric.

Speaker 3 (02:59:28):
Man, would you go to space?

Speaker 2 (02:59:30):
I would love I'd let him do it a few
more times.

Speaker 3 (02:59:34):
We should do a show in space. If you go
to space, I'll go to space. But like I agree,
let's like let's let have like, let me get it,
like twenty more people go on like the mission. Yeah,
and then we would go like once we know it's
really safe, because we don't want this show to die.
All our fans love this show. Man, we can't we
can't there, Yeah, we don't think, but you never know.

Speaker 2 (02:59:54):
We can't have this show like just disappear like that
news on space. It could be called dudes on Space.
He was on dudes in space, Space on dudes, Spacey Dudes,
Spacey on Dudes, Kevin Spacey on Dudes, Space dudes. Oh Man,
Space dudes on dudes, Space Dudes on dudes. M M

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all right time. What kind of dude is Michael Straighthand.

Speaker 3 (03:00:20):
He's a whiz man. I think he's a whizz He
has a love a lot of innovation which he has.
He innovated the position, the defensive end position. He also innovated,
you know, a career after football. It's kind of gave
birth to you. He kind of gave birth to myself.
He gave birth to many others out there because as
a football player, as an NFL player, people think the
pro typical thing out there that people think is, hey,

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that person can just play football, that person is just
an athlete.

Speaker 2 (03:00:46):
Well he's the one that kind of broke that mold
for US athletes.

Speaker 3 (03:00:49):
And then having a better career after football, and he
had an unbelievable career, Hall of Fame career and then
having an extra Hall of Fame career you know post football.
Gotta give it to him. You gotta be a wizard.
You gotta have that innovation, and he sure does.

Speaker 2 (03:01:05):
But he's like definitely a dude's dude because anytime you're
at Fox, like, he's always a fun dude to be
around at work.

Speaker 3 (03:01:11):
Yeah, he is a real fun dude to be around work.
He's so witty, man, and he's on at all times.
And if you watch his highlights as well on the
football field, you know what I mean, he's just talking
garbage at all times.

Speaker 2 (03:01:19):
He's always on. It's something that I and your man,
I know, that's always.

Speaker 3 (03:01:23):
On, always on at that size too, because people that size, man,
it takes more to always be on.

Speaker 2 (03:01:29):
You're that size, exactly on that size, and he's always on. Hees.

Speaker 3 (03:01:33):
He has a gift, man, he was born with a gift.
There's no doubt about it. And he was a freak
of nature on the field too, So he's a tough. Yeah,
he is a stud man. He's a stud off the field.
He's a stud on the field.

Speaker 2 (03:01:45):
I mean, and he's a dog too because he'll give up.
I mean, he's he looks so long. He kind of
looks like Derrick Henry out there.

Speaker 3 (03:01:53):
Yeah, he's a big version of Derrick Henry. Oh yeah,
good point. He's also a dog though, well you want
to go with though, what summarizes him best?

Speaker 2 (03:02:02):
All? Right? On three? You say what you say, I'll
say what I say. One, two, three, stud.

Speaker 3 (03:02:08):
Come on, Jules, we gotta you know, be more on
the same page.

Speaker 2 (03:02:14):
You know, freak You think he's why is he a freak?

Speaker 3 (03:02:17):
I mean, I mean he used to take freaking three
hundred and thirty pounds off the tackles and just throw
them to the ground right out of his way, and
then get to the quarterback and build them drop him
right to his knees.

Speaker 2 (03:02:28):
And it's pretty freaky that big ass d N football
player is sitting at the table talking to like housewives
all around the world and they love them. That is
that's freaky.

Speaker 3 (03:02:43):
That is freaky. And it's freaky how he can talk
twenty four to seven as well, and he's always on.
He can come up with an answer and a solution
for anything that's thrown his way, and he can do interviews.

Speaker 2 (03:02:53):
He really get an interview. He's all purpose man. He's
freak stamping it. He's a freak. He is freak. Right,
let's get into our our last Halloween edition of new
Tongeons Guy that we are going to talk about you

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know what. I'm looking at this and it's pretty gnarly
that every one of the scariest guys that we're going
over is from the AFC. Fucking North. Another Kent State
golden flash. Another man that scares the living ship out

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of you. He sure does. His name is Debo, but
his birth name is James Harrison. James Henry Harrison, Jr. Hank.
I will not call him that to his face. He'll
probab me, beat my face. I've seen him going that
volleyball ship. What is up? What's you a A? I

(03:03:59):
asked to say, alright, AI for James Hank.

Speaker 3 (03:04:03):
I was probably too scared the second Holy smokes, Oh
that's blank.

Speaker 2 (03:04:08):
AI was scared. AI is fucking scared. I'm scared. Did
not want to get it wrong. Start the claw.

Speaker 3 (03:04:15):
Now now, James Harrison. James Harrison was a tenicious and
a hard hitting linebacker. Tenacious thank you, Joece got you.

Speaker 2 (03:04:24):
I'm Harry.

Speaker 3 (03:04:25):
I didn't read any bucks growing up, okay, you know,
and a hard hitting linebacker now for his relentless work
ethic and physical style of play off the field, he
was dedicated and resilient, overcoming numerous setbacks to achieve success.
Harrison had a significant impact on the Pittsburgh Steeers on
the Pittsburgh Steelers, helping them win two Super Bowls and

(03:04:48):
earning the NFL Defensive Player of the Year award in
two thousand and eight Jesus. Notably, he's set a then
Steelers single season record with sixteen sacks in two thousand
and eight and is the only undrafted player to win
Defensive Player of the Year award. He was also a
five time Pro Bowler and twice named the Steelers MVP.

Speaker 2 (03:05:11):
He should have been a Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 3 (03:05:13):
Yeah, but Santonio Holmes tapping catch and the game. They
should give out like two MVP's award, a defensive MVP
if deserved, and then an MVP award as well, or
an MVP award. And if it was a defensive guy,
then if someone played on the offensive side, you know,
on the offense side of the ball, very well, they
should also.

Speaker 2 (03:05:33):
Have the offensive MVP. You know what I mean? You
know what I'm saying by that.

Speaker 1 (03:05:37):
Yeah, you can get they can get a better sponsorship
group out of the NFL too. If they did that,
you could have you know, Chevy for you know the
offense and forward for the defense.

Speaker 2 (03:05:48):
We're not business guys. Debo. Hey Lloyd, you're smarter than
I thought.

Speaker 1 (03:05:56):
Harry, your hands are freezing. James Harrison absolute scary motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (03:06:04):
Like he's look at him.

Speaker 1 (03:06:06):
You look at his pictures, it's like one degree outside.
He's got his shirt off and his baggy ass sweats
doing a pregame warm up, looking like he wants to
just I fucking kill every single person on the other
side of the team. Like we played against him and
he's got a notion and it's so fucking crazy that

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he didn't get drafted because he's about six feet tall,
but he's also six feet wide.

Speaker 2 (03:06:34):
This guy is a fucking fridge. I've never His arms
are literally like thirty inches big. I remember he came
and played with us in seventeen.

Speaker 1 (03:06:47):
It literally when he would walk in the locker room,
it felt like the scene in Friday when Debo would roll.
Everyone will put their chains away, and he was like
a nice guy, but he just had that scary great
guy scary orr about him were like no, hey, oh shit,
what's up. No one wanted to joke with him because
he didn't know if he was gonna take it or

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if he could be joked with, but he was honestly
a great teammate for that one year.

Speaker 2 (03:07:12):
And he's made so many incredible fucking plays in his career,
Like it's insane. Have you seen him do the shot
put Nah?

Speaker 1 (03:07:20):
I never seen he's I guess he's a huge fucking shotputter,
Like he's a fuck.

Speaker 2 (03:07:24):
I love him. I absolutely loved him. I remember when
he played that game in two thousand and eight. I
was at Kent State the super Bowl where he had
that big hundred yard run in the super Bowl, and
I was just so excited to see a guy like him,
you know, dominating the NFL from where I came from.
I mean it was It's crazy. Was Prime's James Harrison

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faster than you? Mm? Yes?

Speaker 3 (03:07:54):
Was he? Yes? I'm not gonna say he wasn't. I
had to think about that, and I was like, wait,
if I am faster than him, I should not say
I was faster.

Speaker 2 (03:08:04):
That's that's like me saying.

Speaker 3 (03:08:05):
I'm stronger than him as well, which obviously I am
not stronger than James Harrison.

Speaker 2 (03:08:09):
I don't think anyone is.

Speaker 3 (03:08:11):
But I'm going to talk a little football, you know,
A little technician on the football field here, I mean
in the blocking aspect of the game, and who you're
going versus, what type of guy you're going verse, what
type of player you're going verse, who you're going verse,
Because in the NFL, you scout the player you're going verse,
You scot him, You see what type of player they are,
You see how they react to you know the type

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of blocks that they're receiving and all that good stuff.
And what size he is, what height the defender is
that you're going verse, You get in his chest, you
throw your shoulder. There's so many different techniques depending on
who you're going verse. And I love blocking the guy
that's like six' five my height who stands, up because
THEN i can get in his chest driving. Backwards and

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a guy that doesn't have that mean, look that mean,
attitude and a guy that's not going to get pissed
off BECAUSE i came from eye off the ball and
absolutely drilled him and drove him back five yards and embarrass.

Speaker 2 (03:09:04):
Him that was the last THING i was trying to
do With James. Harrison what were you trying to do With?

Speaker 3 (03:09:09):
James first, off With, JAMES i KNEW i couldn't get
into his. Chest the guy is like a bowling, ball
like you, know that twenty eight pound bowling ball that
everyone wants to throw down the freaking lane and just
trying to knock down all the pins and like you
kind of like do a granny style.

Speaker 2 (03:09:23):
And so heavy you blow out your.

Speaker 3 (03:09:24):
Back, well those are the hardest guys to block in THE,
nfl especially at my size six foot. Six you, know
it's hard for me to get. Low it's hard for
me to move that type of guy because they have
so much leverage built in pad. Level, yes, exactly that's
what he. Has and with a guy like that and
how scary and intimidating he, was AND i seen it on.
Film you do not want to Piss James harrison on

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why what did you see on?

Speaker 2 (03:09:46):
Fi?

Speaker 3 (03:09:47):
Yes what do you see on? Film what do you?

Speaker 2 (03:09:48):
Mean what do you see on?

Speaker 3 (03:09:49):
FILM i seen him take, defenders offensive, linemen toss. HIM
i seen him absolutely level defenders and put him out
of the game with a.

Speaker 2 (03:09:58):
Concussion, dude he knocked Out. Josh he's one of his
teammates from. College but, literally, therefore.

Speaker 3 (03:10:04):
When i'm blocking, him it's a guy that you just
kind of want to get in his. Way i'm not
going to come off the ball and crush his. Skull
i'm not trying to do that because IF i piss him,
off you, know IF i hit him hard AND i trigger, him,
Man i'm going to tell you he's gonna pick me
up and throw me the next. Place SO i never
wanted to trigger. HIM i always just try to get
in his, way you, know with my, shoulder with my.
Hands so then when the running back came around and
you try to make a, play you, know just get

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in his way, again you, know so.

Speaker 2 (03:10:27):
He can you feel his.

Speaker 3 (03:10:28):
STRENGTH i could feel his, strength because then IF i
started going strength for, strength that's WHEN i, lose no
doubt about, It that's WHEN i lose the block versus
a guy like that and. Leverage so every TIME i
just try to just kind of play paddy, kick you,
know try to let him absorb. Me so IF i
did fly off the, ball he would fly off the ball.
Too THEN i would go backwards and.

Speaker 2 (03:10:47):
He would have that separation.

Speaker 3 (03:10:48):
Pass SO i just try to stick on him like
a like a, sponge you, know and just always didn't
let him out of my rear view, mirror just always
staying in front of, him never trying to piss him,
off never trying to give him a cheap. Shot that
was the WAY i Blocked James, harrison and it was
a whole different style when you go versus a player like.
Him that's.

Speaker 1 (03:11:07):
Crazy see we're here talking about Like Rob's rob used
to block the, biggest baddest to do on the defensive.

Speaker 2 (03:11:14):
Line that's fucking.

Speaker 1 (03:11:16):
Nuts you, know it's rarely, seen you, know a matchup
with the tight end and the nine technique fucking d
end or what you, know the outside linebacker that's playing
down like that doesn't that's usually at the point of
attack a lot of, times is.

Speaker 2 (03:11:30):
It you watch that?

Speaker 3 (03:11:31):
Film, yeah you always want to get the tackle on those.
Guys but when you have a tight end in that
situation that's willing to do, it willing to get, there
that's what expands your. Offense that expands the run, game
that's what expands the play action game as. Well AND
i kind of use that to my advantage and that's
actually what helped me get open plenty of time on
the play actions when the linebacker step up because they,
thought you, Know i'm coming out the. Block But James

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harrison was a terrifying pocket pressure. Player he got so
low his, shoulder, like, yeah he would have that shoulder
dip and he would just get right off of the,
tackle even though the offensive tackles twice his, size kind
of like it looks like twice his, hype but he
would get right underneath, him and he was so. Strong
he would just rip through right through his arm and
then get to the. Quarterback and he was quick enough
to take kind of an outside. Angle run the, Hump,

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yeah run the, hump and then bolt right to the.

Speaker 1 (03:12:18):
Court also would have a great change up where he
would just use his. Strength he'd get right up in
that chest of that guy who's about eight inches taller
than and push his ass right back into the pocket
and blow up the. Quarterback and that's the exact LEVERAGE
i was talking.

Speaker 3 (03:12:32):
About and that's why then go toe to toe with
him right off the, line because he would get that
leverage and he push me. Back SO i would just
try to stay on him and not let him get
that force to you, know to be able to push me.
Back so just being a smart.

Speaker 2 (03:12:44):
Player have you seen his workout.

Speaker 3 (03:12:46):
Videos his workout videos are freaking. Ridiculous he has like
eight forty fives on each side when he's freaking benching
like five, hundred like fifty fives.

Speaker 2 (03:12:56):
You see it does it's just. Ridiculous his. Conditioning he
gets like a third pound or a forty pound medicine
ball and he plays volleyball with it where you have
to catch it in the, house saying that that that's.
Hard people don't realize that's. Hard that's. Heavyweight and he
does it for a long. Round like it's so fun
to watch.

Speaker 1 (03:13:15):
His workouts because he does like some world's strongest man
shit all the, time or like you have like a
boulder he's, pushing or he's fucking pulling a goddamn car
or throwing fucking rocks that are like nine hundred.

Speaker 2 (03:13:27):
Pounds like he's just a he's a cool dude. Man
and the one thing about, it the one thing would you,
agree does his voice not match his?

Speaker 3 (03:13:38):
BODY i think it does match his.

Speaker 2 (03:13:40):
Body it does BECAUSE i don't think it's like a
low scary. Voice it's not as low as you. Expect,
Yeah SO i don't think it like you would think
with that. Guy he's, like are you doing?

Speaker 3 (03:13:50):
You, yeah you're expecting that. Low, now it's kind of
it's not high, Though.

Speaker 2 (03:13:54):
No it's not. High it's kind of A. James i'm
not saying you have a high, bay which is kind
of good because imagine if it was that low would
be like even.

Speaker 3 (03:14:01):
Scarier, Yeah LIKE.

Speaker 2 (03:14:05):
I, remember remember he remember he gave. IT i got
one of his. Shirts remember he had The debo shirt
in the locker. ROOM i still have The debo's shirt somewhere.

Speaker 3 (03:14:13):
Here he's he's like he can lift like, whatever six hundred,
pounds bend squat that. Lift but WHAT i love about
him is that he always posts his regime of you, know,
recovering of how he recovers off of those, lifts how
he was recovering in THE, nfl and he would put
like three hundred and fifty acupuncture needles and every, day

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like every other, day and he posts about it like
you gotta be a, Freak you gotta be intense in
order to get three hundred and fifty needles poked inside
of your muscle tissue and just take it like an absolute.
Champ like that just shows he that just shows like he's,
dedicated like he's doing whatever it takes.

Speaker 2 (03:14:56):
To be at that level that he needs to be.
At is The Mount. Rushmore of the strongest guys we played,
with you, THINK.

Speaker 3 (03:15:03):
I would Say Sebastian volmer left tackle Was vince Will.

Speaker 2 (03:15:08):
Fork he was super, strong.

Speaker 3 (03:15:09):
Strong he didn't really have to even like work out that.
Much he would just walk in the weight room and
toss up like five hundred pounds of the. Bench.

Speaker 2 (03:15:16):
Yeah Marcus. Cannon cannon was a strong. Guy saw the squatting.
WORLD i NEVER i. Remember canon would be squatting and
there'd be fifteen fucking forty five and the thing would be.
BOUNCING i SWEAR i think he had like twelve forty
five's on each. Side remember, that and now the bar
would be it'd be bouncing like it was a fucking

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cute tip with fucking rocks. On it's like it. Wasnly
that was good inmitation right. There and Then Brandon bolden
for pound for. Pound bolden didn't even work. Out he was,
like but he pound for pound when we do all
Those like.

Speaker 3 (03:15:53):
My, GOSH i wasn't saying like that was a bad
thing that would work. Out he didn't need to work,
Out And i'm, like, dude how are you so strong and?
Ripped he's, LIKE i carry my kids around And i'm,
Like i'm, like, DANG i gotta start having. KIDS i
gotta start having. Kids AND i still haven't. Started and
this is eight years. Later WHAT i would still be
playing IF i attend.

Speaker 2 (03:16:11):
Kids he would always do Those, remember we'd always have
to do those explosion recordings for some certain things like
The kaiser's and he would always be the Absolute he
blow people out by a thousand points because he was
just so explosive. Strong i'd say that's probably Our Mount. Rushmore,
yes his Last Kent state, game you, know he sacked

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five Times miami Of. Ohio oh Big, ben his fucking.

Speaker 1 (03:16:38):
Teammate no one's off, limits no one is off. Limits
we saw what he did To Josh cribs when he
was in A browns. Uniform we saw what he did
To Ben roethlisberger when he was in A miami With ohio.
Uniform like he is Fucking Freddy krueger Bro this is
HOW i, mean this is the perfect guy to have
on the Goddamn halloween.

Speaker 3 (03:16:58):
Episode you, know we're talking about his you, know defensive
skill set and all, that but what about every time
he had an, interception he always almost like brought that
ball back to the. House obviously with one of the
Biggest Super bowl plays in history of the one hundred
yard return Versus Arizona, cardinos and if they scored right
on that, drive they were saying the game was going
to be over going into half because The cards had

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that big of a.

Speaker 2 (03:17:20):
New manager and that much momentum going.

Speaker 3 (03:17:21):
In but he saved The steelers that game with that
interception to the. House it looked like he was about
to be tackled eight different, times and he just kept
going and kept going and kept. Going he's kind of
like a full back mixed with a running back when
he's running the. Ball, yes exactly like. Him He's Mike
alstot of the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (03:17:43):
Here that he's going to be fighting O Jo, cinco he, was,
yeah O Jo.

Speaker 3 (03:17:49):
Cenko, First James, harrison what are you?

Speaker 2 (03:17:53):
Thinking O Jo? Cenko what theo fodge are you? Thinking
i'll tell you right. Now O Jo cinko has got some.
Ball he. Doesn't he raced a. Horse he's fought a
couple of. TIMES i mean he's lost all the, fights
so has?

Speaker 3 (03:18:10):
He?

Speaker 2 (03:18:10):
Yeah he lost the. Fight to be said about a
man that loses a fight and keeps coming back he
keeps coming. Back, Oh Joe, sinko don't back. Down he
does it, now he doesn't he? Thinking what is he?
THINKING i don't is? It IT'S ufc, right it's? Style,
YEAH i mean the only way you'd have to Fight
James harrison is you can box. Him if he couldn't

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bring you.

Speaker 3 (03:18:32):
Down, Oh Joe cinco is six to, one one hundred
and ninety pounds ABOUT i would say he's got. It
he's probably, like, yeah he lost A Brian maxwell in
a boxing.

Speaker 2 (03:18:40):
Match hit He, yeah it. Wasn't i'm not saying he
probably beat the ship out of, Me But i'm not
Fucking James. Harris James harrison is a scary. Man should we?
Go we should? GO i GOTTA i got a what if?

Speaker 3 (03:18:53):
Scenario do you think we can Beat James harrison if
we tag team versus?

Speaker 2 (03:18:59):
We you mean if we tag Team James? Harrison, No,
no like you AND.

Speaker 3 (03:19:03):
I Versus James. Harrison, UH i.

Speaker 2 (03:19:07):
Don't, HONESTLY i really don't.

Speaker 1 (03:19:09):
Know AND i consider myself a tough, guy but AND
i consider you a large tough human as.

Speaker 2 (03:19:16):
Well we would have to game. Plan we'd have To
you have to game plan because you, know The steelers
do what they.

Speaker 3 (03:19:21):
Do they do do they what they.

Speaker 2 (03:19:23):
Do they do what they.

Speaker 3 (03:19:24):
Do they do what they.

Speaker 2 (03:19:25):
Do they do it very.

Speaker 3 (03:19:26):
Well but they do what they do what they, do
and they don't.

Speaker 1 (03:19:29):
Adjust they don't adjust you what they do and they
do we'd have to game Player James harrison for that fight.

Speaker 2 (03:19:35):
Time all, Right but what kind of dude Is James? Harrison?
OKAY i HAVE i have two THAT i think he.
Is you, KNOW i don't think he's a dude's, dude no.

Speaker 1 (03:19:43):
ONE'S i played with him and he was kind of
a dude's, dude BUT i was too scared of him
the whole time for him to me think that he
was a dude's. Dude the freak HE'S i, mean he's
either a freak or dog to, me you know. It
AND i think it's a crazy thing that if he's a,
freak that he was an drafted, freak that's probably a
stat that will never say.

Speaker 2 (03:20:02):
Again and that's.

Speaker 3 (03:20:05):
FREAKY i, mean he is a freak for. SURE i
would not disagree with a. Freaking he has dog in.
Him there's no doubt he's a relentless. Dog he's a
dog that he's a pitbull he's just never gonna. Stop
it's the pitbull That's john. Trained, yeah that has the
lock daw and just never letting go until that jaw
finally gets tired.

Speaker 2 (03:20:21):
After, like you gotta put him. DOWN i think you
gotta put him. Down, basically you got to kill.

Speaker 3 (03:20:25):
Him but he's also freak with that interception and the,
stride his stride when he's, running, yeah is. RIDICULOUS i
mean it's freaky to have a stride like that at that,
size with that much, mass and to be able to
run like, that that's.

Speaker 1 (03:20:38):
Freaky that's. Freaky, tangibles, dude no. One they say he's
six ft five, Eleven he maybe five to. Ten he
about my, height and he's two sixty and he runs
just as fast as. Me, okay if you want to
call that not a, freak you're fucking.

Speaker 3 (03:20:54):
Crazy, yeah you are. Crazy then he a.

Speaker 2 (03:20:57):
Freak, Freak he's a. Freak James harrison.

Speaker 3 (03:21:01):
Stamp it drafted in the third round of the nineteen
ninety SIX Nfl draft by the forty nine. Ers he
is renowned for his exceptional hands and ability to make.
Plays he ranks third IN nfl history in both receiving
yards and. Touchdowns he was a six Time Pro bowl
selection and was named to the two Thousands All Decade.
Team born In Alexander, City, alabama known for his flamboyan touchdown,

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celebrations he was often seen as a decisive figure off the.
Field he was elected to The Pro Football hall Of
fame in two thousand and. Eighteen, jules what wild dude
are we talking about right?

Speaker 2 (03:21:38):
Now right? Here as wild dude number, Two let's get
on TO. O t Oh man was a wild.

Speaker 3 (03:21:48):
Dude what's the wildless thing that comes to your mind
when you hear Of Terrell owens aka to the first.

Speaker 2 (03:21:55):
Thing that comes to my?

Speaker 1 (03:21:56):
Mind him doing sit ups in front of his house
on a sit up like bench with all the media
outside of.

Speaker 2 (03:22:04):
Him was it during his? Suspension it?

Speaker 3 (03:22:06):
Was it was during his suspension when he got suspended
by The Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (03:22:10):
Eagle he looked. Yoked he looked, yoked and he looked.

Speaker 3 (03:22:13):
Yoked WHAT i remember that press conference that he did
outside of his home when he was doing the sit,
Ups And i'm telling YOU i. WAS i was such
in shock of how yoked he was and how ripped
THAT i truly didn't believe THAT i could play in
THE nfl from, there BECAUSE i thought that's what you
had to look like in order to catch pass in THE.
Nfl just, yeah absolute, specimen absolute freak of. Nature he

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looked like the guy didn't have an ounce of fat on,
him AND i was, like, DAMN i want to look
like that one. Day, man that guy is.

Speaker 2 (03:22:40):
Ripped great smile. Too, yeah he's. Beautiful he is freaking t. O.

Speaker 1 (03:22:46):
Man HE i grew up watching him AND i SAW i,
MEAN i remember when it just changed. Overnight you. Know
he he struggled with drops early in his. Career and
then it was that wild card weekend Or division round
game Against Green bay Where Steve young almost fell in
his drop and hit him down the middle of the

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field on a split split safety seam And terrell caught
a ball in front in between three, guys got, crunch
made the, play they won the, game and like from
there on, out he just took off and is that the.

Speaker 3 (03:23:21):
Play that, he you, know started crying right after he
made the. Catch that just shows that someone loves the
game of football as well to have that type of
emotion after a play like that and then you're crying right,
there and then on.

Speaker 2 (03:23:32):
The field he's an emotional.

Speaker 3 (03:23:34):
Guy that's that's the that's when you know you love
the game of. Football, though when a play can make you.

Speaker 2 (03:23:38):
Cry he Loved you could tell he loved he loved.
Football he liked playing. FOOTBALL i don't, know but he
didn't love you.

Speaker 1 (03:23:46):
Know there's a lot of the team stuff where you
know He Andy reid is considered probably the most like
he's a big player coach right from what we. HEAR
i never played the coach that takes no. Ship and
he had to get him out and they traded him
in the division To. Cowboys that's crazy to.

Speaker 2 (03:24:04):
Me that's a wild Move i've heard, though if you go,
in if you go against like your, rival that's like
one of the oldest rivalries in goddamn, Football philly Fucking.
Cowboys and he was still. Elite like that's how wild
of a dude you have to. Be he was wild
in all.

Speaker 3 (03:24:23):
Aspects he was, wild you, know playing the game of.
Football he was wild off the. Field he was wild
with touchdown. Celebrations but he was also wild with what
he was going through when playing in some of the,
games like the broken leg or the broken ankle in
The Super, bowl and crazy he broke he literally broke
his ankle like two weeks toward whatever it, was it

(03:24:45):
was basically. Broken he played against The pats In Super
bowl thirty. Nine what he he had WHAT i think
like nine receptions for one hundred twenty plus yards from
WHAT i. Recall, Yes New england won That Super bowl
baby twenty four to twenty. One but Obviously Philadelphia eagles
they got us back when they beat us in what
twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (03:25:04):
Seventeen that's Because.

Speaker 3 (03:25:05):
Julian wasn't playing. Jewels if you were, playing.

Speaker 2 (03:25:07):
We would have won that. Game, yeah. Game you had
no problem on the offense that.

Speaker 3 (03:25:11):
Year and what's wild about it, too is he signed
a waiver to go against the doctor's orders in order
to play that, game because the doctors were telling him
that he couldn't play because of how significant the injury.
Was but he was so, wild so, ambitious and loved
the game of football so, much and he was so
wild in his rehab that he got himself to the

(03:25:31):
point where he was able to play in That Super.
Bowl and LIKE i, Said i'm gonna say, again nine
receptions one hundred and twenty two yards what two weeks
after breaking your ankle or three weeks or whatever it.

Speaker 2 (03:25:42):
WAS i don't know it. Was ACTUALLY i think he broke.

Speaker 3 (03:25:44):
It it was week, fifteen so he had about four
or five weeks to recover and play in The Super.
Bowl that's, Fast. Bro you got to give him.

Speaker 1 (03:25:52):
Credit, Man he's like one of those ultra, competitors where,
like it doesn't matter what's going on outside the, game
whenever you put him inside the, lines he's gonna. Ball
and WHEN i watch his, film he's a he's absolutely
a freak out there with how big he, was with

(03:26:12):
how he could catch the. Ball he looked like a
tight end in the middle of the, field but he's,
Fast he's fucking you know.

Speaker 2 (03:26:19):
What you never saw anyone catch T o from? Behind
how did he remind? You remind me of? YOU i
agree with, that.

Speaker 3 (03:26:25):
Bro WHAT i loved About TiO on the, field especially
his young. Days, bro this guy was, strong, strong long,
legs strong, legs and the most important thing was he
never got. Tired to be that size six,' four two
hundred and twenty plus pounds and to never get tired yapping,
his mouth doing, his antics going for over one hundred

(03:26:46):
plus shyards.

Speaker 1 (03:26:46):
A game you, know what that's impressed because of what's
it because of because he was Drafted To, san francisco
and he Saw How jerry, rice Was And jerry rice
was the most, in shape mother in the history of the.
Goddamn GAME and i guarantee were regardless of oowe and
SHAPE t, O was Jerry was. Jerry still and then once,
YOU know i remember the Day On jerry, rice day

(03:27:07):
that FREAKING t o caught twenty damn Balls On jerry
rice's last game in the As. A niner but like having,
that horse that rabbit horse Of What jerry rice was
helped make too How crazy TiO was because in the
back of, his mind he's, probably, thinking man that's the.
Greatest receiver i'm better. Than him but he Saw how,
jerry prepared so he probably took a little bit.

Speaker 3 (03:27:29):
Of that that's a, good, point man. Well said and
what Also made too so great as a football player.
As well he was, so explosive, so explosive it didn't
matter if it, was coming, you know right off the
line into the route or after making. The catch he
would just explode right up. The field and he was
so strong because you could tell you he was, so
strong because like, you said he reminded me. OF me
i would just say a little bit skinnier and at

(03:27:50):
the wide. Receiver position but he's kind OF Like.

Speaker 2 (03:27:52):
Aj, brown yes he reminds ME Of aj brown and
anyone that tried, tackling him he would just throw the
defender right off. Of him oh broke.

Speaker 3 (03:28:01):
Tackle tackles he broke tackles like no other wide receiver.
Broke tackles that's why he kind of reminds me. Of
myself it looked like he was a mini me just
running through. The defense and he was so physical as
well at top of. The route that's what got him
open plenty. Of times on top of having a deep
ball and running by. A defender that's what made to

(03:28:22):
so great and special and special, as well and that's why.

Speaker 2 (03:28:25):
He's a top five receiver of all time all. TIMES
five i mean you watch his film on like five.

Speaker 1 (03:28:32):
Different teams even when he was, old guy he was
still making. CRAZY play, i mean he played in a
PROFESSIONAL game i think like four years ago, At fifty
like he's still. A, specimen.

Speaker 3 (03:28:41):
Heyes he's playing in, basketball leagues celebrity. Basketball games doesn't,
get tired and he's always he's always ready.

Speaker 2 (03:28:48):
To, Go man he's. NEVER sore i feel like Every
time i've, see him he's just. Full speed how wild
was it when he went To fucking dallas and did the? Star?
Thing well what?

Speaker 3 (03:28:56):
Was wild well that was when he Was On san
francisco did the star thing That i'mitt smith came back
and did the. Star thing he's so freaking wild that
he went back and did it again after scoring. Another
touchdown asked how wild? Too is and He had dallas absolutely.
Hate him and then what was so wild in the
end is he got Traded the dallas at, you know
some point in his Career From, philadelphia eagles and then

(03:29:18):
they fell in love with Him in dallas as well
because he was such a baller and so wild out
there on the field and had a freaking like FIFTY
wild td celebrations as Well.

Speaker 2 (03:29:27):
In dallas WHAT?

Speaker 1 (03:29:28):
OTHER td i remember him doing the popcorn in. The
face oh, wait up he tossed me a ball. Real, quick,
YEAH yeah i got you, Here. Here julie, Oh Oh,
Tony romo tony.

Speaker 2 (03:29:41):
Oh touchdown touchdown one of the most famous one that.
We saw Even influenced christian McCaffrey on one of our
episodes when he's seven years old seven, years old takes
out signs the ball after, a touchdown takes out. His
sock how. Fucking crazy it's kind of like when you
took out the easy Button on you're fucking out of

(03:30:01):
your out of THE thing. I got I got.

Speaker 3 (03:30:04):
Jewles's, autograph, Dude dude i'm going Right. To, eBay baby
i need some money in my. Bank account how MUCH
will I? Get jewels probably three.

Speaker 1 (03:30:12):
Hundred bucks did he influence you to take out the?
Easy button because actually that.

Speaker 3 (03:30:17):
Is exactly who, influenced me BECAUSE once i saw the
easy button in my Locker when staples sent it, TO
me i actually, was, Like oh i'm gonna hide this behind.

Speaker 2 (03:30:25):
The, goalposts no he hid something behind a goal That
Was joe horn with the. Cell phone. Ocho tried ocho
tried to hide the easy button put it.

Speaker 3 (03:30:36):
THIS way i was Inspired by Teo And chad, ocho
combined and that's what made me do the, easy button,
you know celebration in practice to those two guys and
inspired me to be freaking.

Speaker 2 (03:30:49):
Absolutely wild so.

Speaker 3 (03:30:51):
Here, we go sign football, right here inspired By, t
o and we'll be giving this football away everyone one.

Speaker 2 (03:30:57):
Lucky fan best comment section in something we'll discover what,
it is but you gotta do something. Really cool what else?
We got do we miss? Anything?

Speaker 3 (03:31:07):
Else YEAH what i really love About t o, as
well and what made him such a beast on the
field and so hard to tackle is the way he
ran and the way he just got his knees up in.

Speaker 2 (03:31:16):
The air he ran with.

Speaker 3 (03:31:18):
High knees when you run with high knees, like that
it's hard to take someone out and especially catch him.
From behind and that's why he, looked like what are
those gazales? Out, there yeah he looked like a gazelle
when he, was running like kind of like a horse,
As well and that's why no one can. Catch him
and that's why he was, so great, so fast, so
talented because.

Speaker 2 (03:31:38):
Of those, high knees that drive that. He has how
old is tl? Right now.

Speaker 1 (03:31:43):
He's fifty he still, looks, Great man he still looks
like a. Professional athlete if. YOU see i saw him
like maybe a couple of years. Ago somewhere he was cool.
As fuck he still looked like you could go out what.
A Fuck el dorado is his, Middle Name, El Dorado.

Speaker 2 (03:31:58):
Torrell Colorado. Owens elder that.

Speaker 1 (03:32:03):
Is A sick i would have Gone As, El Dorado El,
DORADO owens.

Speaker 3 (03:32:07):
I would have been a badass Football Name. El dorado
imagine Just Putting. Al dorado i'm back of a Jersey Name. El,
dorado everyone why don't.

Speaker 2 (03:32:19):
You give me? Some way you'll know. That song what's
the craziest injury that you? PLAYED through i, Would, SAY
uh i basically did the.

Speaker 3 (03:32:29):
Same thing UH when i basically snapped my ankle IN
Half afc championship Games All. BALTIMORE ravens i came back
in that game about fifteen minutes later, and played, you
know about eight minutes with eight minutes left in the.
Fourth quarter so that was one of the CRAZIEST injuries i.

Speaker 2 (03:32:46):
Played.

Speaker 3 (03:32:46):
Through, OH also i broke six of my RIBS when
i Was. IN tampa i got level going across. The
middle tom set me up. ONCE again i.

Speaker 2 (03:32:54):
Think we've we talked, about that. DIDN'T we i. Don't
know i'm, Not.

Speaker 3 (03:32:57):
Sure like we talked about. That ALREADY and i broke
six of my ribs and THEN the x ray machine
SHOWED that i didn't break. Any RIBS so i went
back in the, game, LIKE oh, I can't i gotta
go BACK and, i can't, you know be a be.
A SISSY the x ray, MACHINE said i had no.
Broken RIBS so i go back in, the game get two.
More catches, I'm like, i'm, Hurting bro i'm hurting.

Speaker 2 (03:33:17):
Like this this this.

Speaker 3 (03:33:18):
Is BAD so i take myself back out of. The
game we, go home AND then i GET an MRI
and i have six. Broken ribs JESUS so i played.

Speaker 2 (03:33:26):
Through that That was that.

Speaker 3 (03:33:26):
Was painful that.

Speaker 2 (03:33:27):
Was painful what about Him and ochow HAVING a tv?
SHOW together i remember it was hosted By Like kevin
fraser and it was like. A network we really never heard.
Of it but what would our show?

Speaker 3 (03:33:41):
Be?

Speaker 2 (03:33:41):
Called name that's. The show it's pretty.

Speaker 1 (03:33:44):
Good name HOW About Theo, Gronky Nuts, GRONKY nuts i,
like it gronk, and jewels.

Speaker 2 (03:33:52):
Gronking jewels and.

Speaker 1 (03:33:54):
Then last let us know what you guys think of.
Our show it Should, be also we'd be crazy if
we don't talk about when he started Crying About. Tony
roman that's. My quarterback you know how Many times i've
used that in just like a. Jokingly term i've heard
you use it plenty.

Speaker 3 (03:34:10):
Of times what about his? Shades though those those are
some pretty. AWFUL shades i.

Speaker 2 (03:34:15):
LIKED him i thought they. WERE swaggy i was not
a fan. OF them i bet you he's just a.
Misunderstood dude he's got a lot of emotions. IN there
i wonder what his upbringing was because he would have,
those bursts you KNOW what. I mean but you knew
he loved. The, game well what kind of Dude Is? Terrell?

Speaker 1 (03:34:34):
OWENS juels i think it's easy for. THIS one, i
mean he's he could put him in as a dog
because he's. A dog he's definitely a. Stud whiz he's
he's could be.

Speaker 3 (03:34:45):
A whiz i mean he definitely it was all purpose on.
THE field i mean he could take handoffs. As well
he could do everything on.

Speaker 2 (03:34:53):
The, slot yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:34:54):
He was he was everything on the football player besides a.

Speaker 2 (03:34:57):
Running BACK but.

Speaker 4 (03:34:58):
I think it's one thing and one. Thing, ONLY yeah
i agree. WITH you i mean this guy had unparallel.
Physical abilities his instincts were through. THE ROOF i i gotta, go, one,
two three absolute. FREAKING mate i got, another question, Real,

(03:35:18):
quick jewels would you Cry For?

Speaker 1 (03:35:20):
TOM brady i did Cry For, tom brady but it
wasn't in the. Same context it WAS when i read
about Him Leaving new england and without, you know reading it.
FROM him i read IT on espn bottom Ticker that
brady Signed To. Tampa bay and then YOU know i
had a single tier run down. MY beard i just

(03:35:43):
saw him three days, Before too jimmy fucking fallin at
The goddamn.

Speaker 2 (03:35:47):
Syracuse game the guy didn't hint anything. TO me i feel, For.
You jewels would you cry?

Speaker 3 (03:35:52):
FOR him?

Speaker 2 (03:35:54):
I have are you gonna cry? Right now let's see
if you can you cry? On command i'm, just crying
just thinking about a GOOD times. I think IS that
i see? A tear. I'M trying i see. It here.

(03:36:16):
I'M trying i. JUST tried I almost i almost got. A,
TEAR wow i almost got. A tier that was.

Speaker 3 (03:36:22):
Pretty good, Hey good i'm actually feeling.

Speaker 2 (03:36:28):
More. Emotional now where did you go to get?

Speaker 3 (03:36:30):
THE emotion i just thought about All Our super bowl
wins and how much work we put in and and
how it's.

Speaker 1 (03:36:36):
All over that's what you pulled from to get THE
tier i. Need to i'm working on. MY tears i
just did an AUDITION where i had to have a
sex scene with the guy. OVER zooms i didn't get the.
Fucking roll.

Speaker 2 (03:36:50):
That's good i'm glad you did it. To, us god
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