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Gronk & Jules discuss life in the NFL from diet, to travel, to practices, and even what goes on in the offseason. We kick it off with Jules and Kyler talking about superstitions in the NFL in The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light.

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Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'll take one of these too. I'll take one of those.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
This guy's got hands of a hockey guy.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Linemen all secretly have good hands because they practice infocase
as an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
No linemen have awful hands, so we have.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
And then the guys that catch in games like those
are like the exceptions. Those are the exception guys?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Is that why you always do like the They're.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Like ex basketball guys that turnated tackles.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
The like the tight end, the like center in basketball,
to tight end to tackle pipeline.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yep, okay, logan makeods can probably catch too. You got
big hands.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
And then don't think, don't you like end practices in camp,
like if the lineman can do a punt, if you
can catch a punt, that's hard because it's body. Okay,
So we have a one voice voice call in the
same theme as what we're talking about or showing a
lot this episode, which is behind the season in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
So let's start with uh this voice call.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Hey, this is from Texas and Jules.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
I'm just wondering if the Patriots make the playoffs, will
you'd be growing a playoff Beard?

Speaker 5 (01:57):
I can't wait to hear.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
Have a great great.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I mean, am I gonna grow a playoff Beard? I
am a little scruffy. I think it's because when you
start seeing Santa and snow, you must let the beard grow.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I don't know when did you start doing the playoff Beard?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Start doing it at fourteen? The first year you won,
the first year?

Speaker 4 (02:24):
We want I think now, is that like a lazy
thing or was that like intentional?

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I I think I was watching Rocky four, okay, when
they went to Russia and Rocky just let everything go
and just to focus on the fight.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Deadlifts some trees, yeah, throw some rocks around.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I went and ran behind.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
The Foxboro Pond through the snow doing Rocky montages.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I just.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
You get kind of you start growing, you win, you
let it go, and then it eventually turned into like
starting it earlier the next year, and then started in
it earlier, and yeah, it was kind of a superstition thing.
But if the Patriots this year keep it going, I
don't know. Man.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
My mom doesn't like the beard.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, Lily, she kind of likes it. She kind of
remembers shaving off one of my beards back.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
In the day, okay, because.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
When she was real young, I would get scared that
she wouldn't recognize me because you go six months with
the beard. Six months in baby years is like a lifetime.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
And then it's a drastic change.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
So I had her shave it.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
She's like, what, that's really smart. Yeah, yeah, did you
have any other playoffs?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Superstitions didn't have playoffs, super like not other super didn't
have other playoff superstitions, but like the focus and urgency
was just always on, like what can I do more?
I don't want to because after we lost that super

(04:06):
Bowl in twenty eleven, you know, and then we didn't
get there for like a few years, you went into
it like I don't want to go through this and
have the I wish I would as I wish I
would have caught a little more if I just put
that extra time, and I wish I would have, you know,

(04:28):
or if you didn't do something, maybe like oh I
didn't get my Friday lyft in, Oh I didn't you
know what I mean? And then you think of like,
well if you lose, and you'll think back to that.
I don't know if it's is that superstitious.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
It's it is a little bit depends on what right.
If it's like something like wearing the same shirt, it's
just trying to control something.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
I wore the same unky shirt. I did that too.
I guess I was superstitious supertient.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Now, is there any other guys in the locker room
that you noticed that had like somewhat disruptive super stitions
or ones that you fought were interesting.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
No guys tried to keep it relatively relatively how you
did it all year, just maybe with a little more.
The coaches would always give you a fucking you know,
the whole spiel. Look, fellas, you know this. Don't be

(05:24):
going out there because this is a different game. It's
a playoff game, taking two more of your your energy drinks.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Don't be doing this. Just do it the same way
you're doing it. You know, you go out.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
There, you take two scoops of it to explode. You
fucking pull a heavy well.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Lebron deletes social media in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
He calls it zero dark thirty.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Right.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, Now forget playoffs, just superstitions in general. You mentioned
your yellow Ken shirt kn' stay shirt, which I think
is here some place up there. Uh, anything like putting
on the cleat with your left foot first I did?

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I mean I would lay.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I always had to like pick from like three pairs
of brand new socks for each and I would sit
and I'd have to like feel them and like and
see it which two marked up because I used to
wear like a sock and.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Then like the half the blue or then I would.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Just go tight with sock. And so I'd always have
like a cruise sock and you know sometimes and then
for a couple of years I was wearing Jordan crewse socks.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, I think that was like later.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Now, has there ever have you ever picked up anything
like that or lost anything like that, like after a
big game, so like, oh, you were traveling and I
left lost.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, socks I wore.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I wore I bought like my first cool Armani suit
right before that first twenty eleven Super Bowl, like a
sweet one, like it's kind of like like uh, it's
like a dark charcoal gray like wintery kind of beautiful suit.
We lost that game. I never wore it again. It

(07:09):
was like the like my biggest purchase to that point.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Where is it now?

Speaker 1 (07:14):
I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I think I threw it away. So like stuff like that,
if I would, you know, now, have.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
You picked up one?

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Like have you for whatever reason you're on the road
you have a different sandwich that and then you ball
out and you're like, oh, well, now I have to
have that sandwich every every game day.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
No, But like little things like if I like if
I started a game hot and I had like six
seven catches in the first half, I would usually change
my gloves at halftime.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I wouldn't change my gloves. Okay, I'd keep them on.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Now would you? Now let's say you had a if I.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Had a drop, I would change the glove in that streak,
not in that streak at halftime.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
At halftime, okay, now are you keeping Like let's say,
how often are you changing gloves? And the reason I
asked that, it's like if a gloves are hot, like,
do you would you keep them from multiple games?

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
No, no, not multiple games? Freshy every no matter what
freshy like, but you got it. It's like the socks.
You go through the fresh gloves and I'd have to
put them on all right, these are the ones you're
feeling them, feeling them, got some juice, got a little juice.
But I would always go through like two pairs of gloves,
maybe three, depending if your Miami sweat through gloves. I

(08:29):
hated my hands being wet and on and or greasy
like I hated. I liked my hands completely dry so
I could feel the glove and so you could not
have it sliding on you like Tom would like fucking
Tom would put cocoa butter on his hands right before
he would go or like lotion right before he would throw.

(08:52):
He liked the moisture on his hand, Okay, and I
would hate it because he would touch the ball and
it would it would fucking feel slimy. I'm like, what
are we doing?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
It's greasy.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
You're putting all like cocoa, but you put his all right, babe,
come on, let's let's warm up.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I'm like, fuck, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Any other quarterbacks you know, do anything like that.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, but yeah, he used to, like he used to
like like put lotion on his hands, like right before
a game, and I and I can never do that.
He's got big ass hands, you know what I mean. Yeah,
it just yeah, it's nuts. Like I didn't like any
kind of greasiness on my hand, touching the ball.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Greasing a pig, it's hard to catch. Wow.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Okay, had you noticed any other like superstitions in the
locker room or guys that you play with.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
It's like, oh my god, that guy's nuts.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
No, not that I can remember. It just got real serious.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
It got serious but also fun, but also it just
it just becomes a different level because there's no tomorrow
is not guaranteed, There is no tomorrow. There is no
tomorrow that was always the funnest thing to say when
like you were going into Super Bowl, you'd be like, Fellas,
there really is no tomorrow. There is no tomorrow. The

(10:19):
stupidest ship, what's the what's is there? Let's go is
the dumbest thing I've ever heard. We say it all
the time. Yeah, but let's fucking go rules, I mean,
And it has so many different ways of saying it.
And you could say if let's go frustrated, let's go
hat like fucking juiced, let's go like get me the ball.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Confused, let's go what it's like, what the fuck.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Are we doing? Let's go what are we doing? There's
so many fuck is there?

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Like it makes me think of like Jameis Winston like
eating the w's have there ever been like a pregame
speech or a pump up or someone trying to rile
the guys up. It just says like the dumbest ship
where someone like looks over him be like what the
fuck did he just say?

Speaker 1 (11:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (11:14):
There, there has it, There there has been, but I
forget who said it. And but I remember looking at
mccordy just like like what the fuck, what the fuck
did he?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
What did you say?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
I remember I think I looked at Dev and because
Dev Dev says some good ship with Dev, Dev could
sneak and Dev would I think he would do some
research and come up with these fucking these uh these
quotes or something. But I remember some time I think
it was a bad practice or someone and someone says

(11:52):
something or something I remember just seeing I don't know
when it or where, but I remember seeing Dev after
hearing a guy say something like what the fuck is
this guy saying.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Like, that's how.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
We'll think about that.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Put that in your back pocket because that might come
up in the shower, and I want to hear what
that line was.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
If you're going next him, say hey, who spoke once
where we all were just shaking our fucking head like
is this guy serious?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Text him to be continued.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
That's a cliffhanger.

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Speaker 6 (12:34):
Hey mules, gonk, what was your favorite meal you would
enjoy us?

Speaker 7 (12:40):
See this is why I love these questions. Favorite meal,
love answering like, what's my favorite meal? We were just
talking about our first thing that we do when we
get to Boston, and it's you going to Mike and
Patty's Breakfast Spy and ordering a sandwich and I'm going
to Davio's place and ordering the Cowboy Rabbi for curbside
pick up.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Well, this guy wants to know what our favorite.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
Meal was after a game after game, and I would
say whatever the spread was that the newing Them Patriots
was providing. You know, because after a game, you can
bring your family and friends in, you know, in like
inside the tunnel tunnel to meet them after the game,
you know, to see your family and friends. And then
they would have this huge spread the new Engham Patriots

(13:22):
would provide and there would be burgers, hot dogs, chicken
tunders with barbecue sauce, ranch, honey, mustard, whatever sauce you
want with those chicken tunders, all tons of drinks that
were lined up, you know as well.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
They always had a Southern kind of food. There was
always like because a lot of the guys come from
the South, So there was brisket, there was fried chicken.
There'd be like beans, and there'd be collie greens, and
then they have like the whiter stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
They'd be like broccoli.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
And like chicken fingers and like roasted barbecue burgers and
hot dog you know, so like they hit a little
bit of everything.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
You know, you have the soul food and then you
have like, you know, the white food.

Speaker 7 (14:03):
So yeah, you got you got hip hoole party, right,
got hip both party. The Patriots did not discriminate. They
did not discriminate on the food. So I now the
quality of the food.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Actually, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
The quality of this food was actually perfect for the
quality that you wanted after a game.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, put it down. It's comfort food.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
Yeah, you don't want to try to eat at like
a Tom Brady meal after a football game.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
No, it's hard to put down.

Speaker 7 (14:31):
You know, all the emotions, the hits. You want to
put down a cheeseburger with ketchup at mayonnaise. But my
favorite thing to do was take those chicken tenders and
just dunk them in as much barbecue sauce that you
possibly could and as much ranch or blue cheese as
you possibly could. And that was my favorite go to
meal after a game, was those chicken tenders.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, I remember, grunk you usually would take like four
boxes of the chicken fingers back to his house. I
would and like you would go to his house after
the game and there would be a spread of what
we had, a spread of.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
The post game.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
Hey, Juliana, if you could tell us what it's like
on an NFL road trip. No, no, basketball, baseball, hockey.
A lot of games we played NFL not so much.
You guys go home, stay out there and what's your
favorite memory from a road trip.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
So in the NFL our away trips are business trips.
It's not like NBA baseball hockey where these guys have
three four games in the night. Once we get there
a day before, unless it's a West coast trip, we'll
get there on a Friday. We'll leave right after practice.
We have curfew the night before the game. Yeah, night

(15:56):
before game always curfew. If we play a home game,
we stay at hotel so they could check those curfews.
And it's also because we have night meetings. So like
when we travel, usually Sunday, we'll have a walk through
at the stadium. After the walkthrough, we pack up, we
put our suits on, we get in the buses. It's
like a fucking hour bus to Providence. Then we hop

(16:19):
on the plane. When you get to the plane, right
before you get on the go straight to the tarmac.
They have tables of all the food that you get
to pick. So there's cheeseburgers, chicken, sandwiches, PB and J's,
and there's like every kind of snack you can have
or want, and then you go up up, you walk

(16:41):
up the stairs in the plane, you get in your seat.
We had lovely flight attendants always that were with us
for the longest time, so you'd become very personal with them,
so they knew what your drink order was. So I
always liked my electrolytes and a cramp juice. And so
I get to my seat, which we're hearing about how

(17:03):
the plane was right now. We used to have, you know,
the two three two plane, and they were like kind
of older seats, but I'd have two seats and you'd,
you know, that's how.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
You do it, and you go to your area.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
They'd have your favorite stuff that you like, and then
there'd be an on flight meal, some kind of chicken can,
some kind of fish usually always, and maybe a beef.
There's always a three and uh, so you'd go through
that and then on the way back, you'd have like

(17:38):
homemade cookies made and the stuff like on the plane.
The travel was awesome as far as traveling, I mean,
the plane was We used to go Delta and that
was the best because you had live TV. So as
soon as you'd finish your one o'clock game in Buffalo,
you're watching the four forty five second half of the
cool the four that's not in the plane, you know

(18:01):
what I mean. So you're watching and we didn't get
when they took that away. That was kind of lame,
but it was pretty cool like everything else. I mean,
it's it's pro sports. So you have your own plane,
and then when you get to the you land in city,
there's four buses. We all go to our bus. You

(18:23):
have like forty five minutes to an hour of free time,
and then you have like treatments. At every hotel, there'll
be we take out all like the conventional area or whatever,
the big ballroom areas. We have all that taken out,
so they'll be like little film rooms, so you have
film room if you want to go watch film film.

(18:45):
There'll be a big training room, so there'll be a
lot of guys in there getting their bodies ready, So
there'll be that like a forty five minute hour of
that and you have dinner, and so then guys will
start to funnel into the cafeteria and that's where like
the breaking bread, the hanging out processes, and there's usually
it'd be the same kind of food. There'd be a chicken,

(19:08):
a steak, apasta, brown rice, a marin era meat sauce,
a chicken wing night before, and there'd be like a
specialty dish of where you were at according to the
city you were in.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh I like that.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
So, like Denver always had really good food. And I
remember because we say had a really nice hotel there too.
We didn't stay in the greatest hotel. So I don't know,
you know, like I hear these basketball guys they have
in their hotel in their contracts, they got to have
like presidential suites and they got to stay at five
star hotels. We were always at a hotel right next
to the airport, no distractions, couldn't leave anywhere. Uh So

(19:45):
then you get you eat, and then after you eat,
we had seven thirty meetings. Offensive of team meeting, and
then you had offense and defense, and then you'd walk
through the whole game plan the night before in a
big old ballroom. You'd walk through every so that could
be sixty to seventy five plays as a team, and
everyone will go over and you know, each coach would

(20:06):
be looking at their position group. The lineman would go
do a couple of steps and kind of say what
they had to do, and they would say, all right,
we're going to us to this. The receiver would do
a walk to his routes in a condensed area, but like,
all right, we're running an in cut, you're running the cross,
just to show that everyone knows what to do, you know,
So you'd walk through those and then after that you

(20:27):
get treatment again. And by that time it's like nine
thirty nine, guys would be everyone naturally funnels into the
cafeteria because the college football is on, So guys, yeah,
watching the college football, getting a late night snack before
everyone goes, and then I think curfew would be at
like eleven, and then you wake up and it's the

(20:50):
same kind of regiment where you go and you go
to the cafeteria and then you have a team meeting.
You guys go through one last key before you leave.
We already have the hay in the bank. Now we
get to this stadium and then it turns into a
different operation once you get to the stadium. But the travel,
like I was accustomed to Kent State where we're busting
the places. So I thought it was fucking awesome. You know,
I got the cheeseburg. I can do whatever I want.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
You can do busting the unsie, you know what I mean.
This literally we bust a munsie.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Uh So it's different than the other sports because you
know they have so many games where it's part of
the light, the road is part of their life. Yeah,
we're taking our operation in Foxborough and we're literally bringing
it to that one spot, and we're doing everything that
we do in Foxborough at that one spot, and and

(21:37):
and and it's a business trip. No guys are rarely
going out. I mean, if you had friends or family,
you could get them a hotel room. No one was
on your on your floor. No one was in your
hotel room. That was conduct detrimental to the team. So
you would get suspended and you'd lose a game check
if anyone were ever on your floor, even just on

(21:58):
the floor, can't be on the floor. Well, there'd be
so much security you can't get anyone through there.

Speaker 8 (22:02):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Uh you know, so no candles, no nothing burning. That's
what people used to say. If it burns, you can't
have don't come in here with you have incense this
that if it lights, you can't have it in gots.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
So it sort of on my bays.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Some of the most epic Bill times are when he
would be explaining the rules and regulations of what the schedule.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Is going to be.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Hotel, yes, hotel rules with or like every year, every year,
the same day, like right when you get in, right
after the conditioning tests, you had like an hour and
a half meeting where we go over all like the
rules of the NFL, Like we go over the finding
for you know players, wait, the this, the that, how

(22:57):
much it was if you relate to meetings, how much
what it was if you had we would go over
like an hour and a half of rules. And the
way he would project he's like like if it's a
fucking weapon, you can't bring it here all right? Light
no bows and arrows, no, not like he was like

(23:18):
the way he would deliver it would be so funny,
and you know it was funny or like we were
traveling to Europe. Look, we're not gonna be out here
fucking getting fishing fish and chips, guys, like, this is
a fucking business trip.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
You see Uncle Ben on your own time, like you.

Speaker 8 (23:35):
Know what I mean, I like pepper and a little
jab and then well he'll you know, it was it
was fun. You can just picture Bill being like, I
don't care how good that little thing upringles looks?

Speaker 1 (23:47):
A man, I don't touch them any bar.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yes, there was no alcohol at many bars, but true
you could order.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
You could order whatever you like. You could order food.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Now is that on the team or is that on you?

Speaker 1 (23:59):
That's on you?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
You got I think we when I first started going,
we would get a per diem. Oh now this is
good for the travel. We would get per diem. You
get a you get an envelope. Bearers would sit and
hand it out to every you know, all the guys.
And it started out like thirty six bucks. We get
thirty six bucks for meals because they said that you know,

(24:24):
they they had all the meals at all times at
the hotel for us. So it was like some teams
would be getting like two hundred three hundred bucks, oh yeh,
which I don't know but and then it got to
like sixty. But as soon as we get that money,
you'd be cash. Everyone would put their initials on it,
and one of the flights flight as attendants would come

(24:44):
and get a bag and they'd all everyone would put
their initial on their dollar and she'd go and she'd
pick two out. The first one would get the money back,
and the second one would take the whole bag lottery.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
It'd be like a g oh, he smolls out, rocks,
do you ever win? And I didn't do it? Oh,
you didn't do it? No, okay, that's gas money.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
When I was young, I was like, that's fucking I'm
not making hell of money.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Bucks.

Speaker 8 (25:10):
Yeah, how much do teammates in the NFL actually hang out?

Speaker 1 (25:14):
That's a great was the one that we kept.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Yet good question that so many fans want to know
as well, and they're so intrigued by it, like they
fans really want to do know this this answer. But
I would say teammates hang out all the time. But
it's kind of like what you're within your own posse. Yeah,
you know, it's not like the whole offense is hanging
out or the whole defense is hanging out, or you know,
it's kind of more of like the position groups are

(25:36):
hanging out, and then also like two guys in the
position group and then one one guy from another position
group get along.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
You know. It's kind of like that always hanging out.

Speaker 7 (25:45):
All players always see each other off the field, you know,
and outside of the locker room.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
But it's not like it's a team thing.

Speaker 7 (25:52):
It's more of like an individual hangouts with the guys.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
There's different groups. DB's are always hanging out with DB's
that that could be. That could be said d lineman.
Offensive lineman pretty much always hang out with the offensive lineman.
Then like the skilled group guys of the offense and
special teams guys, and you know, there's always a Schmorgesborg
and we we used to have a group called the

(26:16):
FUK that we used to hang out, which was like
an old special teamer Nico Kudovids, you know, a couple
practice squad guys. There was Rob, there was you know,
then there was a couple of defensive guys. There's a
couple offensive guys, and we all lived next to each other.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
So I think that's why, and the.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
Criteria to be in the FUK was just being a
savage so like you know, so now if you heard
now every listener, or it could have been you know,
you weren't in the because you weren't a savage, or it.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Could have been the pre the pre the pre wreck
could have been to fuck with my house, because the
fuck was always fucking with my house.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yes, yeah, but you're a part of the fuk because
you were always there and I know now and we're
fucking with you.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
So that was part of the fuck.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I left my goddamn golf clubs out like outside once
this is and I come out the next morning because
I leave them on my porch, come out the next morning.
Every golf club's in the tree, thrown in the tree.
And this is in the spring when there's like frost
and like it's fucking cold still, so like all my

(27:16):
grips ruined. My whole bag is scattered throughout my whole
fucking front yard. Then another time I'm sitting there and
it's it's like five thirty, it's like four thirty, but
it's late, so like it's still it's dark. I get
knock on my door and it takes me a little.
While I'm playing fief, I think Slate's upstairs, and I

(27:40):
go to the door, and I kid you not, I
cracked the door open. I cracked the door open four
inches four inches. And I go to put my head
out because I didn't see anyone from the windows, and
all of a sudden, I get smashed right in the
head with the water blue snowball. Snowball, true story.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
The door.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Turn off all the lights, tell Slate we're being attacked.
Go get a freaking airsoft gun. Go to the backyard.
They start hitting me from the other side. Oh it
was bad.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
It was out there throwing them, dude, it was It
was the poet.

Speaker 7 (28:13):
It was the freaking Rusty ben Rusty Benson hit you
with that snowball when you literally I'm telling you this
is a true story, Jules. Like you know, like in
a movie where they cracked the door open barely and
like poked there like eye out, only like it was
four inches. Somehow he threw it thirty yards away and
put it directly boom off Jews.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
I cut it was like it was a hard snowball.
I mean, I'm I'm I'm taking cover. I turned off
all the lights. Think we're getting fucking attacked, joh, I
know was great about it. Felt we felt like a
kid again. You know when you do that as a kid,
you throw snowballs.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
So we do hang out. Yeah, so we get a question.
Yeah you hang out, but as a group.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
But we also in the small town teams, I bet,
like like the Packers, you know, like we we were
all in Foxborough, which was like a small town, and
we all lived like right next to each other in
these like homes like these everywhere, like there was a
block and it'd be like all Patriots and so like

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we it was like a big ass dorm.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
So like, but we all had houses.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Like riding bikes and skateboardings to each.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Other, bikes, skateboards sometimes motor cycles like the little ones
like we had like every off season we would buy
a stupid toy of some sort, like remote control cars
or you know, because like the off season it's pretty
much you go work out and then we would all
work out at the facility at that time of our careers.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
Dolla provided the volcano, Like he had a volcano set
up upstairs in his room and it kind of acted
like a volcano and it would blow up like a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
The volcano. You don't remember the volcano, No, oh, the volcanoes. Yeah,
like the drawing was, the setup was unbelievable. Volcano. The
guy loves.

Speaker 7 (29:56):
Geography and volcanoes and it just topography like it was.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
It was a simulation. It was wild. Yeah, that was
cool that pink pong tables.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
I had a pink pong table, had ping pong was
everything that kept your hand eye coornation on a game
as well.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Corn hole cornhole a corn hole. Yeah, all right, next
question we hang out is ping pong?

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Ever never mind the facility, No, no, to hear that
with like teams likes remember we have it in the
dryer room.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
It was.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
It was way back in the dry room, and so.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
You had to go to the through the equipment room
to the where they used to dry the towels. We
go in and get like a quick game, but it
couldn't be seen. So it's an unsanctioned ping pong ta unsanctionous. Yes, ever,
like the powers that we ever find out about it?

Speaker 7 (30:43):
Yeah they knew, Yeah, they knew, but it never no
one ever used it like that. It was every once
in a while, so it was never a big deal
and only certain guys used it, and only.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Certain guys like you had to be like you had
to be like in the club.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Trash ketball was a big that was in the trash
ketball is where guys would we'd have the flowing trashes,
you know that everyone that are on the wheels and
you'd put them like thirty yards away and it'd just
be like who could shoot in the trash It was
a soccer ball that it was like a soccer ball
or something, and they you know, you'd have two guys
on that side, two guys on this side, and it'd

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be just shots.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh help you. I don't even know how it went,
but that that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
And how many times during the week are you guys
hanging out not in the facility and like are you
at this or like someone's house that everyone's going to
or is it just kind of like.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Certain Yeah, certain guys had certain whoever was on the
same schedule.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah. Yeah, it was every young bucks.

Speaker 7 (31:33):
I mean if someone was married, I mean you got
to go home to your kids and stuff, so like
you're hanging out with your family after Yeah, but like
when we were young, like funny is no one had
a girlfriend, no families. It was it was basically every night.
It was it was every ever, every other night.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Because we all lived together or something, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 7 (31:49):
And everyone was within a mile away. So yeah, there's
a lot of factors that play into a point. When
you're young in the NFL, you're hanging out with your
teammates a lot lot more.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
But there's also you know, you have your married men,
So like Rob said, you have family men that they
would just stay at the facility as long as they
could because they couldn't do anything at that house.

Speaker 7 (32:09):
Or the married man on our team would sneak out
at night and try to.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Come to our house.

Speaker 7 (32:13):
Yes, yeah, and they would like, I'm walking my dog
right now, and they put they knock on our door
and they'd be like, Yo, what are you guys doing.

Speaker 9 (32:20):
We'll be like whoa, whoa, Nico, get to see you name,
that's just one name, won't use. Oh, I'm walking my
dog right now. What's going on in here? Can I join? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
This dude would slam two shots and then go back
home to his wife.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
The page will never listen to this, so we're good.
Yeah she did. Then who cares. Let's get Ninka in trouble.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Nico, you can't walk your dog seven times to how
many group chats.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
It was like official team group chats, like positional group chats,
like the friend Like.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
There's a lot of group chats.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
There's like you have your boys group chat, you have
positional group chat, you have group chat with coach and position.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
There's like a lot of group chats. Yeah, group chats.
I bet you now too.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Now it's probably like shares on Instagram, TikTok shares. I
we were a little early for that, I can see that,
but we were sending memes and stuff.

Speaker 7 (33:13):
I guess group chats gotta be huge in the NFL, now, yeah,
it's gotta be.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
It's it's way easier to communicate, you know, to the position.

Speaker 7 (33:21):
The coach probably just has a group chat of all
the players and boom, just to feed them the information.

Speaker 8 (33:27):
Text is that how you guys would get information like
if practice time change or like something the next day,
where you get an email or how'd that go?

Speaker 7 (33:33):
It was it was a tax, but group chats weren't
a thing when we were playing, not as big, no,
not as big, So you would just you just communicate
with each other individually. If it's something changed, the time changed, Uh,
someone would call Yeah, I get a phone call. Yeah,
it wasn't more of like a it wasn't more of
a group. It was just individual communication then.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
So that back to like team outside of a sleeve dynamics, right,
you got like when you start to league, you're like.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Rookies and young, Like, is there a moment when like, let's.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Say you're a rookie or young team group, like someone
like Randy Moss would like take like, oh, invite Rob.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
To do something.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, Wes tried to do that all the time, and
Welker would always like there was a cool group of guys,
older guys. Yeah, and we were like the slappies, and
like Wes would invite like Rob to do something and
not like any of the other guys. So Rob used
to get poached all the time.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yes, but kind of.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
Like when you're a rookie, you're only hanging out with
rookies at that time, Like you got to gain the
respect of your teammates in order to get invited to
like the veteran stuff or the older guys.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
You had to you had to do some shit to
be invited to like a veteran thing. Yeah, you got
to stand out somehow some way.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Is that mostly on the field or is it like
both everything off?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, you gotta you gotta be good on the field,
go down the field.

Speaker 7 (34:45):
Or like at least showing like that you're gonna make
like you're gonna impact the team. And also or maybe
just like you're outrageous in the locker room, like you're
making everyone laugh, like you're fun. You're fun, like you're
just you're different, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
And when you get older you understand because when you're
there for a long time, you don't even know how
Like we were part of I was part of it.
We were part of a group that like half the time,
some guys weren't active. You know, when you're a young
group and you're with the rookies, some of your guys
get cut, you know what I mean. Like so there
was like a lot of turnover. So when you're older,

(35:19):
a lot of those guys wouldn't invest time in everyone
because they know they're not going to be around.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
That makes sense.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Was there an ever time either of you specifically remember
like the first time you got like a tap on
the shoulder for like the veteran group.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, remember we went on the We actually both got
the tap with Wes when we got to go on
the boat.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (35:35):
Yeah, we got to go on the Hooters boat.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, the Hooters yacht.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
It was West was friends with the with the Hooters
owner or owner or someone big up in the Hooters
the world.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
And the Hooters yacht was in Boston.

Speaker 7 (35:50):
And Matt Matt Light was there and uh, that was
when we got I got tapped into kind of, you know,
the next level.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
I think I can feel comfortab Yeah, I was his one.
We went and then Matt Light obviously screwed with me.

Speaker 7 (36:05):
He took my shoes when he he left a little
bit before me and took my shoes and hit them
on like another dock when like like freaking fifty feet away,
and he sat there the whole time until I left,
and he watched me look for my shoes for like
fifteen minutes, and then he felt bad and then he
came walking over like, you, Rob, your shoes are over here.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Man.

Speaker 7 (36:23):
I was playing it. That's how much he loved me,
that he that was the first time he felt bad.
Instead of sitting there for three hours having me look
for my shoes, he actually came back and.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Rob would have three hours to foes too. Bro freaking Light.

Speaker 8 (36:38):
Yeah, Light man, just cruise around Boston Harbor on the Hooters. Yeah,
that's rocks. It was flas.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I thought we cruised, did we we went? We saw
the fort? Yeah we did. Yeah, we did cruise. I
cruised it, but.

Speaker 7 (36:53):
It was sick and I was like, the first shot
I've ever bought on my face is like NFL life, Like,
you know, you can be in yachts like this is crazy.
But to your point, I know you guys are thinking,
was there one hundred Hooter girl?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
No, there was no other There was no other girls.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
It was just me Rob yes, Wes his girl, and
Matt Light and his wife.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
So it wasn't like wives their girl. We were like
the play together.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
Julie and I were looking at each other as Hooters
put it that way.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, we were like, man, this could be so much
more fun, Jules, why do we come? We thought there
was gonna be like fifty Hooter girls on here and
they're going to serve us chicken wings. And that's the
real reason everybody goes Hooters. The wings. Yeah, the wings.
The family even around anymore? I thought it making a.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, I think they're around.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I think remember the one we used to buy the uh,
the where's the one that we used to go by
every Providence.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
Providence, Yeah, tf car and that one shut down though.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
I've never been to it. Though we never went to it,
but our bus went by it to the airport every time,
and every guy would just be at the locker. I'm like, man,
all right the wind bus window.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Like, what's Hooters?

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Hooters? Should we stop or should we go when we
come back? It was the worst Hooters of all time.
It was it looked like a dump.

Speaker 7 (38:10):
But whippy do yeah, whippy dos r I p ri
I p yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I don't think Hooters goes anymore.

Speaker 7 (38:18):
There's this new one and my mom got me so
it's in It's in Florida and it's Twin Peaks. And
my mom we were sitting at dann Air. She had
a friend over and she's like she's like she somehow
brought up Twin Peaks. Twin Peaks was brought up and
they were cracking jokes about it, and I'm like, what's
so funny like twin peaks like like I don't know mountains,
like I don't know and uh. And then they're like

(38:39):
you don't get it, and I was like no, and
they're like twin Peaks and then my mom was like
like that, like what are tatas or it's just show
and I was.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Like, oh, I get What are the.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
NFL players typically doing in the month of March right now?

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Rob?

Speaker 7 (38:58):
All Right, the month of March is kind of of
like letting yourself go, you know, you let yourself free.
You don't you don't really think about football. You know,
you still definitely got a train so it's not like
you're over training right now in March. I mean typically
for my sake and just seeing the guys that were
always around me in March and I hung out with
you train you know about three possibly four times a

(39:21):
week still in March. But you're having a good time.
You're going on those vacations. You're going to the beach,
You're renting yachts, You're you're renting Lamborghini's, you know, to
drive around the city that you know you're vacationing on
you You're.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Going out late.

Speaker 7 (39:37):
You know, this is when you get all that you know,
all that fomo out. You know, when you've been playing
and all your friends been going out, your family's been
going out, they've been hitting all the parties. This is
when you get it out of your system, you go
out late nights, you wake up your train still because
you're young enough and you just let yourself be Jules,
how about you?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
What do you think? That's that's how I see it from.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well, I was just thinking, you know, like for Rob,
like this is his part of the off season where
it's like having fun. Because Rob played until February most
of his career, so like this is like right after
the season for Rob. But if in the regular like
with most guys, they're already they've been out for three

(40:23):
four months, so this is probably like tighten up stage.
March is like, all right, we've had our fun in
February and January and we've done all our trips, so
we got to start tightening up. That's probably what it
is for most of the league. For me, I was
always training. I mean I would have my fun on

(40:45):
the weekends, but like I kept it, you know, especially
even towards the older I got it like you never
like when we were young, we would go out and
have fun. But March, like I remember, the cutoff was
like Saint Patti, Like what was that the fifteenth? Like
after that, it was like we got to get start
getting ready for the season. Got to start because I

(41:08):
wanted to turn heads when I went into camp. I
wanted to turn heads the first day of conditioning tests.
So I would stop drinking like a month from when
we had to report, So that usually took place around
like March thirteenth, and then I would go zero dark
thirty in trade mode, try to get up because you know,

(41:28):
you want to you want to turn heads and let
let the organization know, you know, especially the situation I
was in that I was working my time away from
the organization, even though you know, I have my fun,
but yeah, like that, that's this is the time where
guys could catch guys or where guys could you know,

(41:51):
put themselves in a hole.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
That's the truth. You know.

Speaker 7 (41:55):
Me though, when I was going out, you know, after
this season and in March, I was still working on
my cardio because I was dancing on that dance floor for.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
About two or three hours every single night.

Speaker 7 (42:05):
You know, I was doing my fast feed, I was
doing my high knees, thinking I was actually busting some
legit dance moves, but literally they were just called gronk
moves and just people loved it because I was just
bringing the energy to the table, not actual legit dance moves.
But let me tell you it worked on my cardio.
It to find my you know, little muscles, kept me ripped,
you know, kept me active. So as long as if

(42:26):
you're going out stay active on that dance floor, man,
you'll stay in shape, and it will it will translate
onto to the football field as well, if you if
you bust enough moves.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
If you're out there, bust enough moves, it'll translate. So
for me, what we got Gronk Beach Wrestle Media after
Dark twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yes we do, baby, it's the first front beach. Explain this.
It is going down Gronk Beach.

Speaker 7 (42:52):
This is the first time it's not affiliated, you know,
with football. Usually it's you know, at the Super Bowl
or it's at the NFL Draft. You know, that was
in Vegas a couple of years ago. But this is
the official after party of WrestleMania. It's going to be
after dark. It's going to be still at the pool,

(43:12):
so it's gonna be Grunk Beach still, but you know,
nighttime Grunk Beach. Out of April twentieth, twenty twenty five.
Immediately following WrestleMania forty one. I hosted WrestleMania before, so
I'm a big wrestling fan. I grew up watching the WWE,
the WWF, Stone Colt, Steve Austin, Dwayne Johnson, all those guys,

(43:32):
so big wrestling fans still am to this day. And
it's all going down at Live Beach at Fountain Blue,
Las Vegas, which is the official hotel of WrestleMania as well.
And tickets go on sale this Friday at ten am
or ten am Pacific time, or they can be pre
ordered now at Gronkbach dot com.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
So get your tickets now. They're going to go fast.

Speaker 7 (43:55):
We got flow Rider actually performing, he's going to be
the headliner. We got Valentino con as the DJ, and
we got plenty of wrestlers that will be appearing as
well at Gronk Beach.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
So it's gonna be a first of it's kind.

Speaker 7 (44:10):
We're gonna be bringing the energy, we're gonna be bringing
the excitement.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
We're gonna have.

Speaker 7 (44:14):
Wrestlers there, DJs, performers, all that good stuff. But the
main question is, Jules, are you going.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I think I'll have to check it out.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
I've been to a Gronk Beach or two before it's
you know, I've I've I got to check the schedule.
It's a it's a weekend. Usually this is soccer time
right now. I think I'll be coming back from Lake
Tahoe spring break.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
I think for the kids ends around that time. So
we'll see. For twenty, we'll see, Yeah, twenty, What a day?
What a night? It's Easter Sunday.

Speaker 7 (44:53):
Well, it's Easter Sunday for twenty Easter Sunday as well.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
We day Hitler's birthday. We got it all recent Gronk
Beach for twenty that is today.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
Today, we're going to be pulling back the curtain on
how NFL players watch film and their preparation process each
and every week, day in and day out, and what
it's like watching film as a player.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
All Right, Well, that's like a loaded question that can
go a million different ways, and I'm I'm probably pretty
sure that it's different for each player on how they
watch film.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
As a football player.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Like, at the end of your career, the most current
time you were in the league, how did you watch
football iPad?

Speaker 3 (45:33):
How did it get deciphered to you? Are people assigning
certain things so that you know.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Players you watch a lot of film in the meetings
with the coaches. I mean, we'll have a forty five
play cut up Wednesday morning with coach Belichick. That's breaking
down probably fifteen plays on offense, fifteen plays on defense,
fifteen plays in the special teams, just an overview of
what he thinks the teams are.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
And everyone's on the and everyone's in.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
The auditorium watching, So you're watching reps on that and
he'll have what he's talking about. All right, you guys,
look at their defense this they play a lot of
Cover two show and watch those safeties and.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Then you break up into offense in D.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
That's just for the team you are playing that week
that week, Okay, so this is just a regular week
work week.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
We'll watch that film.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Then we break up into offense defense, like we all
know because we've talked about this goddamn schedule on this
podcast a million times. And you know, then the offensive coach,
very similar to like all the other meetings, has his
twenty to forty play fifteen to thirty play cut up
of what he sees and the keys to victory. So

(46:44):
you're watching more reps. Sometimes they overlap from the head
coach and you're seeing and they're giving you kind of
the important keys of what we should be seeing for
this defense. And then once you break up into you know,
your your skill group or position group, the your coach,
your individual coach will have his set of fifteen to

(47:07):
twenty plays individually on how you watch you know their team,
now you know Chad O'Shea my coach receivers coach, he
would show a bunch of you know, we'd watch like
ten to fifteen plays of how we're going to have
to go in and block guys for the force or
how their dbs are, you know, in the run game.
And then he'd have individual like thirty play cutups of

(47:32):
each corner that you're going to defend with like highlighted
examples of what their strengths were, highlighted examples of what
their weaknesses or what they struggled with. So like say,
you know, you have a corner, he's really big guy.
He would show his offhand jam. How this guy did
it three or four times. You would look at his
stance on when he would do it, how he would

(47:54):
do it, so you could kind of feel it. So
you're looking individually at that specific guy with the receiver code,
and then for me individually after that. You know, in
those days would always change according to what date is.
That would be early down day, and then you do
the same thing on Thursday for third down day, and
then the same thing for Friday with red area and

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then overview two minute and all the others, and then
there would be cutups. Coach O'Shea would say, all right,
you know we have you know, I want you guys
to take a look. If say we were struggling or
we weren't at the standard of third down that week,
coach would say, or coach oshe would be like, all right,
we got to cut up of all their third and threes,

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third and six is third and ninees, third and longs.
Why don't you guys take a look at that. And
that's what you could watch at home, you know, so
you go on your iPad. Everything by the time I
got out of the league was digital, so you had
everything broken down in every kind of like situation. You
can think, if you just want to see the DBS,

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you can click in. All right, I don't want to
see forty, I want to see twenty seven. I want
to see all his passes defended versus third down, you
could look at that.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
It got to that.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
I want to see all his plays on first down.
I want to see all his cutups of anytime the
ball was thrown at them. I want to see all
the cutups of you know, every time this guy tackled,
Like you could get into all that. For me individually,
I leaned on a lot of you know, coach Oshay,
he'd always have great cutups for us. That's that's how
you determine if you had a good coach, or that's

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what you always saw from a good coach. They would
always give you great cutups of things that you know
helped you with your game. So you know a lot
of times you would sit there and you'd I just
rewatch the stuff that Chad would put in our mind,
and then I like to watch like a whole game.
So I would like to watch the whole game of
the guy the last three games. I'd watch his last

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three games just to see him throughout the game.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
You're just focusing on, like who your matchup is going
to be.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
For specific, depending like out of work, Yes.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
You're doing the one on one.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I'm doing more one on one. Looking specific.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
I want to see if I can see any tendencies
from the defense, the defensive back, the guy I'll be
going against, maybe a linebacker on certain situations, and certain
situations you know I would see I would sit and
watch them on all of those.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Like let's say your specific matchup against a cornerback X.
Would you ever break out of the three prior games?
Would you ever watch any film on them from earlier
seasons or earlier in the.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
So that that's what all the cutups would be. Okay,
So the coaches would cut that up and show like
their strengths and weaknesses, and you could see that, but
you wouldn't know what part of the game it was.
I mean, they'd have the cut up where they always
hit the down and distance first. But sometimes I like
to watch the flow of how this guy was flowing
throughout the whole game, from first down to second down

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to third down.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Does he get tired?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Does he get lazy at the end of the game,
when can I really strike him?

Speaker 1 (50:56):
You know?

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Does he do certain things at certain points of the game.
Is going to be you know, a run factor in
all of the game. Or does this guy quit as
the game gets on because he doesn't want to hit
no more? Does he like, you know, certain times of
the year, a guy could be a completely different player
from week one to week nine thirteen. You know, like

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a guy that struggled in the beginning could be you know,
so if you're looking at all his struggle, shit, what
he struggles with, he tightens that up until like and
then he's playing like a completely different player. Which guys
do they get better? They improve? You know cream season you.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Get to watch it.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I like to watch like the most recent cause that's
kind of like how he is physically right now. And
then also injury stuff. You know, like if he's on
the injury report he's got an ankle, I want to
see how he moves from last week with the ankle.
I want to see you know what I mean. There's
a lot of different ways of doing it. And then
when you watch a lot with like say I watched
a lot with Tom, those a lot of those times

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it would be examples of not necessarily are film. It
would be of their defense with other receivers running the
routes against their and other concept route concepts against their defense. Okay,
so Tom would be like, hey, you see this when
they were playing this team. You see how this receiver

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against this defense, boes this way, and then he like,
that's the kind of like one on one talk in
film talk you would get with the quarterback. Or it'd
be more like route running you'd watch with Tom. You'd
watch a lot of one on ones of our tape
against practice on just like reiterating how Tom liked how

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you ran the route. It didn't matter if you caught
it or not, you know, because it's one on one,
but just route technique. That was a lot of time
where we would go in it with the quarterback to
watch the one on ones to try to create the
chemistry between the quarterback and the and the receiver.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
How did those sessions come about? Is that like a
part of your schedule or is that like watch?

Speaker 2 (52:58):
So it would sometimes we would do that early in
like we would schedule that part of those individual meetings
when we break up into you know, all our own positions.
Tom would sometimes come over in the quarterbacks, all the quarterbacks,
we would watch all that film together, you know, depend
our one on one film together, you know, and then

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a lot of the times, you know, sometimes Tom he
would like to watch he'd watch film after you know,
the practice and say, hey, you know, guys, why don't
we just if we were you know, if there was
some uncertainty on certain plays or a certain game, or
a certain scheme or a certain concept, it was a

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way for him to nail it down.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
Did you this might be like a more of a
movie trope. Did you ever get any aha moments or
really big takeaways that you were able to use in
a game like, Oh, I was able to crack this
one thing and I know that on this play of
the situation he's going to do this and take advantage
of it.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Or is that more of like kind of like a
Hollywood movie type thing.

Speaker 6 (53:59):
No, I mean.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I remember all week and it you know, we'll be
talking to Vince Willford soon. In that butt Fumble game,
that specific I had a touchdown on a on a
post and it was this, uh, it was a blitz.
It was some sort of blitz I forgot like the
actual terminology. I'm going off of just straight memory right now,

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where we knew that that corner was gonna be flat
footed on that play with that's that specific situation, In
that specific situation, they were gonna run this certain blitz
where it was gonna be great for the post and
they would have to communicate and we we hit that
like it happens a lot.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
And who is that who catches that kind of stuff
or is it anyone?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
See that's what the coaches do.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Have you ever caught anything like that and on a
one to one matchup? Oh, if I know he's doing X,
Y and Z, I get this piece of I mean
that's half.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
That's just always everything. That's always what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Like the coaches will like a lot of those times
when say Josh McDaniel's on the offense, in the offense
a meeting with the whole offense, like when he has
his cutups, he could have a play that he took
from college or someone around the league against this specific defense,
this specific team, you know, and show another team executing

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something that we're going to install specifically to take advantage
of that specific defense. We were a game plan team,
so we had most of those, Like every week we
had a cut up like that, where hey, these are
plays we're going to bring in, or these are plays
from the past against this specific this may be a
new wrinkle that we want to bring that we've got
from the college level.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
You know, the who.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Man and the raven the BAMA Baltimore Formation thing like
we saw that from college. A lot of copycat game
plan type shit.

Speaker 8 (55:54):
We're talking a lot about film here, but can you
speak to the importance of the Cowboy clicker in NFL.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Facilities, The Cowboy clicker, which is what you see Shanahan
holding right now.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I mean that's everything.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
If you don't have a good Cowboy clicker or like
the buttons smashed or the button sticky, I mean it
could it could fuck up your day.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
You ever, like you ever just get the frustrated and
just break a Cowboy clicker like an Xbox controller.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Yeah, I mean we'd have to have Teddy on and
the film and it t p he like Jared and
Teddy bro they they They've replaced a million clickers for me.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
I feel like you're the friend in high school you
go over his house on all of his Xbox and
colors or just in mangled, but you just got Cowboy calls,
just in piece Cowboy and pieces.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
I didn't know. I just dropped it. The real like
the real.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Say like lithium thing where it was like a rare
thing was when you had the Cowboy clicker on the iPad.
Whoa because the technology. They got that technology late in
in like my career when you got the Cowboy, because
the cow like it's good to you, it's not. It's
just not as efficient when you have to go here here,

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and you're you're going here literally you're just right here
and you want to you you rewind and fast forward,
you fast forward, rewind, fast forward, rewind so much. It
has to be so dial because you're maybe you're just
trying to see the step that the guy is taking
and you want to see it a thousand times that
dB when like when you're watching dB A, you'll sit

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and you'll see that first play, you'll press play and
he'll step you rewind, step rewind, but step, you.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Know, like you want to see it next question. And
that's what the Cowboys is.

Speaker 8 (57:40):
There are a moment that sticks out to you that's
like the world record for rewinds and startovers, Like in
a team meeting.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Yeah, co coach, I mean time there was like bad football,
as Ernie said.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
The quiet rewind back and forth.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yeah, the quiet rewind and like just straight straight like
you just feel like your your lunch, someone just spit
and pooped in your lunch in.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Front of everyone.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Oh, man, the one time where you think, like the
coach may not have seen that play, Oh it's on there,
and then he slows and rewinds it a million times
and it could be something stupid like Ernie said on
you know, false start. I've seen a false start like
rewind like maybe ten fifteen times in a row like

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first and fifteen like and that's like there's four or
five restarts in just what I said, the silent when
he does when when the coach says nothing and it's
just going back and.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Forth, let the rewind do the talking. The rewind does
the talking.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
That's awesome. I got one more before we wrap this up.
I got a guy, how is it like when you
first came into the league. You're talking DVDs?

Speaker 2 (58:52):
What's the Yeah, so you and you got to give
a shout out to you know, all the film people
and like it people Jerry, Jared and Teddy and we
had foremost they were like our guys. And early in
the days they do all the cutting up back in
you know what I mean, they'll they'll do all like
the It used to be like I don't know if

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a lot of the times it's like an offensive assistant
where he has to go in and like he'll have
to do all the typing for like all right, what
like Because if you watch a play on your iPad,
you'll see you'll have it like lined out the coverage,
the front, the situation. You'll see the time, you'll see

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the protection, you'll see the personnel group for offense personnel group.
You'll see you'll see everything categorized on a spreadsheet on
that thing, so you'll see all that all has to
be put in by someone. So a lot of times
that's like the offensive assistance. And then the offensive assistants
will work with the I T guys Jared and Teddy

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and like they'll do all like the designing of the
cut ups. All right, well then we'll gather all the
you know what I mean. It's like a big fucking deal.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
How do you even do that without the iPad?

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
Like how you get a sheet against the DVD or
is it baked in when you're watching the DVD?

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
There's like a what you used to do?

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Like what I would do to Teddy and and and Jared.
I would go up to them and I'd be like, Yo,
give me Devon best. I want all of his targets.
I want to see and you know, because I I
used to like to see or give me ammon doola
when he was at the rams. I want to see
every target this guy has. I always liked watching how
other guys got open and how other guys were getting production,

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to see if you could steal something from them. You
know Eddie Royal shut out. Remember he used to he
had a he had a few good years, like at
the slot position. I used to, you know, so like
I'd always I'd say, hey, man, can you give me
all that? Or hey, uh, Teddy Jared, can you give
me all the all the Kommardi uh all the Kommardi

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plays where he he's not in the one spot. So
when he comes inside, you know, you they would you know.
And then and then because of the organization that they
all have, they would go in and design the whole
clip and they'd give you They print it out and
burn it off on a DVD and they give you
a DVD like.

Speaker 8 (01:01:13):
Say you asked for that at lunchtime on a Tuesday,
Like you're having that by the end.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Of the day. Oh easy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Those guys were they there, They work their dicks off,
like those people, All the people in the organization have
their specialty. The you know, the the catering people, the
dietitian with Ted, the film the people that clean the
you know, the after hours people that clean, the weight staff,

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the training staff, the upper division marketing staff, like everyone.
It's crazy how many people go into running a football team.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
It's effort.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
I'm sure there's so much more to cover on this subject.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
But with time, why don't people comment in the uh
comment uh for any follow up questions, we might have
to come to this because it's such a rich part
of football.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
And learning how to watch film is a huge thing.
Like some guys just watch film to watch film, but
they don't know what they're watching. You know, when you're
a young football player, if you could sneak in and
watch you know, an older vet what and And that's
how I learned. I would just go, you know, pop
my head and see what Tom was looking at, or

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what Wes was looking at, or or Randy was looking at,
or Kevin was looking you know. That's how you learn
how to watch film, because if you're watching the film,
you're just watching to watch. You don't know what the
hell you're watching.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
I watched film every Sunday on a ship.

Speaker 8 (01:02:38):
Yeah, hey you're a ball nor come on, man, don't
tell yourself short.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
But it's like sit catch.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
It's so crazy to me, Like I remember, I hear
you watch these documentaries and you watch like Brett Farve
didn't even know what a Nichol was until like his
fifth sixth year, and Nickel will be in the third
corner or or like I remember him talking about him
learning how to watch film with a certain coach. You know,
there's you got to learn how to watch film because

(01:03:06):
you can you can go in without a purpose and
just become so overwhelmed.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
Gronk Jules, two gun dudes, is the best quick question
for you. It's mini camp season right now. You both
you both had different paths the NFL. Gronk second round,
Jewels seventh round. Can you explain what your first off
season was like from you know, that April when you
when you get on the team, all the way up

(01:03:32):
to like the first game of the season, like you
see all these OTAs and this and this and rookies
and this. Can you just give some more details and
some explanation on what that whole process is like?

Speaker 8 (01:03:41):
Thank you?

Speaker 7 (01:03:42):
All right, Well I'll go first here at Jules, this
is a great question because I was kind of in
a different situation here. The lockout occurred after my rookie year,
so I never had an off season, and he asked specifically,
I'm pretty sure your first off season was like, So
that's why I'm going into my first off season because

(01:04:04):
I never had a typical NFL off season because I
was off for six months straight because of the lockout,
and I loved every moment of it, you know, I
can tell you that. And in April I was at
the University of Arizona at pool parties.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
I also you can look at it on YouTube.

Speaker 7 (01:04:23):
I'm dancing with the basketball players on a ledge at
the pool, just absolutely going, ham pounding corps lights left
and right, probably about twenty five of these bad boys.
I was twenty one years old. I was still supposed
to be in college. So it was the best time
of my life. And the lockout couldn't have happened at
a better moment in my life as well, because I
didn't have to go and train, because I got the

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train in the morning wherever I was, and then I
would just party all day. And I was twenty one
years old, typical college ton going hand. I was also
visiting my friends. One of my friends, Tico, he went
to the Universe, not the university. He went to Miami, Ohio,
a great college town, great place to party, especially when
you're that age as well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Wait, did you have your signing bonus though? Yeah, I
had my signing bonus. Oh so you had money.

Speaker 7 (01:05:06):
I had money already, So I had about a million
in the bank rolling around going to college is still
getting tables for four hundred dollars, and I felt like
I was a multi multi billionaire just rolling in with
a million dollars and getting tables for four hundred bucks
and buying all these college students bottles.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
And how did I train?

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
I would wake up after a couple of nights and
just go run a couple hundreds, you know, catch some
footballs from my friends that drank with me the whole
night before, and then literally showed up and dominated every
single day where coach Balichick gave me a parking spot

(01:05:49):
in the front row because I had the best training
camp of all time. And that's how it happened because
of the lockout, and I had videos of me partying everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
You're right here. This was after my Yeah, after my
rookie year.

Speaker 7 (01:06:02):
Yeah, it was like a slow key like people knew
about my skills like at that time, like those those
type of skills.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Vastly different than mine. What was your vastly different? What
was your first off season? Like first off season? Still stressed?

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
You know, are we talking rookie off season or we're
going into our rookie.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Year going into your second year or is it going
into our second year?

Speaker 7 (01:06:30):
First off season? So my first off season is after
your first year of playing, well, I'll go my rookie year,
all right, rookie year.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Off season, you get drafted, you go to rookie mini camp,
so it's just the rookies.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
They put you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Through these camp installs, so they give you kind of
the day to day life of what it's going to be,
like a little taste of it in your rookie camp.
That's like a three day camp. For me, it was
like very stressful and very hard.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
You know, I'm a seventh round draft pick. I'm in
a part of the country I've never been or never
even heard of. I didn't know what I didn't know
where New England really was. I didn't pay attention to
my sociology, social studies, class, geography, geography, whatever study.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
I'm a geography guy. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
Like map, my map skills. I like my geography skills.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
I didn't know where New England. I kind of knew
where it was, but it's up here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
You have so many of this, these things going through
your hand, your head as a kid, Am I going
to be around? How's this going? I was learning a
new position. You got to learn your formations, You got
to learn.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
What was your favorite position you learned? I like the
Z position?

Speaker 7 (01:07:45):
Oh sorry, I get back to what you were really
talking about, the aff Oh the APP position.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
So you know, it's very stressful time for these kids
that come into a new area. They're learning at a
very rapid rate, you know, because you want to learn
as much as you can and get all the reps
you can before the vets come, because once the vets come,
you don't get any reps and then becomes super mental.
So then you know the one or two reps that

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you do have. You have to not fuck up the formation,
not fuck up the snap count.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Nowhere to go.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Know the personnel group, no your assignment, know what the
other defense is doing, know your adjustments, and do it
all properly so you get another opportunity, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
So this is a.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Tough time for a lot of guys, and it should
be a tough time because they're digesting a lot and
they're learning a lot, which is completely different than your
second season, where you have that all in you know,
your brain already a little bit, so it becomes a
little easier. But your rookie years, it's a tough year
if you're trying to go in and learn and make

(01:08:53):
the team, you know what I mean. So next, that
was a great call. That was a great call.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
That was a great question. We had different scenarios.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Well you did this, I did the rookie year. It's
all the same. Wow, those were fun. We got to
do more of those in the new year. And if
you want to hear more about some other aspects of
the league life, leave a comment in the section. We
might just bring it up in the upcoming episodes. And
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Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Get ready for another great year ahead.