The Matthew Slater Episode

Matthew Slater is in studio! That's right, we have our first guest in the history of Dudes on Dudes! And who better than the 3x Super Bowl Champion, Patriot great, and Special Teams legend? Slate joins us in the Boston studio to talk some dudes, ball, and ultimately find out just what kind of Dude he is using our patented system of questions. We also talk about Slater's Dude: special teams ace Kassim Osgood. It all culminates in The Chillest Dude of the Week presented by Coors Light where we find out what kind of Dude Matthew Slater is. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think most guys have more of an impegged receiver
than I did.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Miami, Miami, Tom wind never threw for over five hundred
catch Remember, why do we all remember Slate's only catch
the tack? That was the year I had the little
you know, the little ten yard out for the touchdownd.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
I jumped off sides on a two point converse. Yes,
that's right. We try to forget that way. Yeah we did,
and that was the last of it. But we were
all so pumped when you caught that back. I appreciate that, Fellas.
Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman, I'm Rob Gregkowski,
and this is the show where your favorite dudes get
to talk about their favorite dudes.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Today, we're joined by our pal, the Captain, the man
on a mission on and off the field, Matthew Slater.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Phellas, appreciate you have. What are we talking about today? Wow?
What it's like to live with you, Julians.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
The fact that you and I used to live together
is proved that we were slapping no furniture. One of
my favorite dudes of all time. He beat double teams
by just bullyant people, and he played with an edge.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
This guy's an animal, and a whole lot of special
teams talk.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
You are the kicking game, You're the punk game, You're
You're the gunner game Simer, and then we wrap it
up by finding out what kind of dude Matthew Slator
is in this week's Chellist Dude of the Week, presented.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
By Course Like Gotta stick around him again.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Jewish Worries Chicken. Little Sky is falling at all times,
happily miserable with me and loves God, knows everything will
be right because of his faith, and and Rob's just
a golden retriever. He just he's just.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Happy to happy, happy to be there, even if it's
going terrible or if it's going great.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Default setting is optimism. He's gonna always be optimistic even.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
If it's going terrible. Well, tomorrow can only get better.
You know, you gotta always have a down practice every
once in a while to understand what's what's going on.
You got to have a down episode every once in
a while to thee yeah, make it really does. You
can't have the greatest day all the time, you know,
can't You can't. But it makes every other day blossom.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
It makes every other day better. Now we just warmed up,
and this is a very special episode.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Special special in many occasions, literally and physically and literatively.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
All three the trifecta in a good way, not in
the way that we all think about today. We are
joined by our good friend, our our old teammate, and
the man that we love to call the capt The Captain,
our leader. Ten time Pro bowler, five time All Pro
member of the Patriots, All Dynasty team leader.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Just not on the field, but off the field as well,
and three times Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
And one of the greatest special teamers of all time.
According to Bill Belichick, the Great is the great special
teamer of all.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Time, and on top of according of Bill Palicheck, he's
greater than his dad as well.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
To the show, It's great to be What is life
looking like these days? I'm in full dad mode right now.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I'm enjoying my time at home, uh in a transition
season alive, looking to to go back to school, actually
hoping to get my NBA som so, been applying to schools.
I feel like a teenager again. It's like doing these
essays and looking into school.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
But I'm excited. I'm I'm enjoying this transition and looking
forward to the next chapter. Yeah, that sounds exciting.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, can you explain to me real quick what it's
like to be a dad because Jewel and your dad, Matthew, how.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Many kids do you have? Now? I have four? So
what's that like?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Because my brothers all have kids too, it looks like
the best feeling can you explain to me, because I
might have to get into it right way.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Is there's no joy like they're.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
All the dads around here, they're all happy dads.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well, there's no feeling like it. I mean, the joy
you get when you're with your children. Uh, it's just undescribable.
And you know, I have four kids, so it's chaos
at all times, especially with three sons. But uh, you
know you talk about how parents are meant to instruct
and teach their kids. I learn more from my kids

(04:42):
every day by just watching them and observing them and
watching them grow up. Then they could probably ever learn
from me. So it's it's been a blessing to be
a dad.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Man, Like, what do you learn? What is one thing
that you remember you learn from your kids? This is
really good man.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
You know what, honesty and transparency. You know what, if
I ever try to, if I ever try to just
you know, skirt the line of truth, my.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Kids will call me out quick.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, well you didn't say that yesterday or or Mommy
said this.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
So they hold you. They hold your feet to the
fire every day. So you're teaching him accountability. You're in
full daddy daycare. So from the looks of it, it's
going pretty good. Even though you were a little late
to this because you're three year old. Lost your keys,
so we know how. We know how, especially with that

(05:34):
three year old. That's awesome. Now let's jump into football.
What's your first memory of New England?

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Wow, you know, I think I go back to two
thousand and eight when I got drafted by the team,
the first phone call I got from Coach Belichick, and
the way my college career had gone. I played a
little bit offense, a little bit of defense, but mostly
played in the kicking game.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
And I'll never forget.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
He calls me and he's like, look, when you talk
to the media, you know, let's let's not talk about
what position.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
You're gonna play. I'm bringing you here to help us
in the kicking game and we'll figure out where you're
gonna play.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
So I always reference that conversation with him because he said,
the expectation for me, Uh, it was very clear what
my role was gonna be, what was expected of me
when I got here. And you know, it was a
unique time to come to the team. They were undefeated
in two thousand and seven, so you know, sit in
that first team meeting, Bill was like, look.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
We just went undefeated last year. We don't need any
of you guys. So it was homeland it.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
You know, you're just like, all right, I gotta come
in the here, i gotta work and put my head down,
and I'm gonna have to earn everything that comes my way.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
So what's it like to like see coach Balichik's expectations
but also deliver exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
What he told you you were gonna be.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Like literally, he said, we need you in the kicking game,
and you came through like no other.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
You are the kicking game.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
You are the kicking game, You're the punt game, you're
the gunner game, you're everything with the special teams. And
he told you that from the beginning, and you took
it to a whole another level. What's it like to
deliver for someone that drafted you and promised you that
you were going to, you know, be in that role
and just exceed it.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
You know, it meant a lot wrong.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
I mean, I think some people criticized the pick when
they drafted me in the fifth round because it's like
you're drafting a special teams player this high, and you know,
there were a lot of questions about whether or not
my dad had connections in New England and that's how
I ended up here, which was not the case at all.
So I definitely wanted to show people that coach made

(07:46):
the right decision and placing his faith in me. It
meant a lot to me to be able to play
for him for sixteen years and hopefully do a good job.
I assume I did a good job because he kept
me around all that time, but yeah, it certainly meant
a lot. I think, you know, we grew up in
an era where you wanted to please your coach, like
it meant everything as a football player to go out

(08:07):
there and get that a boy or a good job
from your coach. And uh, you know, I really appreciate
Bill for giving me the opportunity that he did.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Here's a deep question that you just brought up because
you said you stuck around for sixteen seasons. You know,
Julian in free agency, you almost laughed at one time myself,
I got traded and I told coach, now, no, coach,
I'm retiring. Like and was there ever a time in
your career were you and coach were kind of buddy hads?
You were a free agent and you almost laughed, but

(08:36):
you knew your heart was here just like Julie, and
I knew our heart was here as well. Here in
New England was a special fellow. So was there a guy.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
He traded me? Coach?

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I'm a patriot, man, I'm going down as a Patriot
this year.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
You're not. You're not sending me to Detroit.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
You almost went to the Giants, go to Giants.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I remember the.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Detroit and I think for me, I think we all
have at least one moment in time.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Happens every single player at one point.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
No question especial. It's just part of the business, right,
So I think for me.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know, in twenty seventeen, I got hurt in training
camp and I missed some time over the course of
the year. My contract was up at the end of
the year, and you know, the negotiations.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Weren't going great. What year is this, This is going
going into twenty eighteen, I know, but what year is
it in your career? So this is year eleven? No rest,
you think you've done your.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Best for the team, and so, you know, I told
my agent at that point, once I saw how negotiations
were going, I said, Hey, we're gonna have to look
to get out of here. And I went down to Pittsburgh,
took a visit there. We talked about games and really
enjoyed Pittsburgh, really enjoyed my time there. And when I
was in the airport on the way back, I got

(09:59):
a call from Bill Happens the same way and he's like,
what's going on. I thought we were good. I thought
we were on the same page. I was like, well, coach,
were not on the same page.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
And thankfully we were able to work.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Through it, and you know, ended up coming back, obviously
and finishing my career there, and that next year we
won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
So I'm glad I didn't leave.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
But you know, it's a reminder that this game is
a business, and we've all experienced the business side of it,
and you know, I didn't take it personally at all,
but I also understood that I had the responsibility of
my family and myself to do what was best for us.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Well, that was twenty seventeen going into the year twenty eighteen.
That was the same exact year that I was traded
going into twenty eighteen season. And then I came back
for one more year in New England and we won
the Super Bowl. Thank you Slater for saying thank you
to myself for staying. Thank you for staying you know
the years before that as well. If we didn't stick together,

(10:54):
we would have never won that last super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, we talk about this business side, you know, that's
that's all the scary stuff. The fun stuff that kept
us all in the locker room was the team stuff.
Let's jump into that. Who was the funniest guy in
the locker room?

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Oh my gosh, I mean there were there were so
many guys of great personalities over the years.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
The two of you being right up near the top.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
But I think the guy that we laughed the most,
probably at more than than with was Nico. We had
a lot of good laughs guy, but he was like
our little brother, like the team's official little brother.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
We all love Rob, but I think about Rob, I
think about Gerard.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
He was a lot of fun. And then the mccordy's
were great.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
That's that New York always coming to right.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
But it was I mean, man, we had so many
great guys on that team over those years.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
It was it was a lot of fun. You know.
One of my favorite was the suburban poet Rusty Benson. Benson,
he was hilarious. Oh my god, I always I have
to give Ornberger his flowers. Yeah, Ornberger is yes on
that lightest guy. And then we can't forget about Light

(12:15):
the God and this guy got into digital videos back
before there was even digital video stuff, making funny videos
to give to the team. Remember when he Mary Carey thing.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
I mean, it was unbelievable, you know Light. I mean,
we've all heard the stories about Light as a prankster.
He had Mike Woystak, our old string coach, not talking
to me for two or three months because I helped
him with a prank. One time he stole Haryl Nash's
car and then I vouched that there was somebody in
the parking lot that I saw taking it, so he

(12:50):
will loop me into that.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
And then Rich.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I mean the fact that Rich was on IR and
Bill brought him down to the Super Bowl and Indian
just to entertain the team, and I think we all
got a taste of that when he was on games.
He's the best storyteller I've ever been around. He's just
he's just so funny. You can't be around Rich without laughing.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
That is one thing about Coach Belichick as well, is
that even if player was on IR, but he was
a great locker room guy, or he was like a
bubble guy. Coach Belichick always knew to keep that one
or two guys around in the locker room that gelled
the whole entire team. And rich Unberger being one of
those guys making it anyone laugh at any time, no
matter what he's doing, if he's just showering, if he's

(13:34):
getting ready for practice, if he's in the training room
getting taped up. Just the way he talks is just hilarious.
But Coach Blicher, you got to give him credit in
that category for just having that guy in the locker room.
He had keepers and team geled together. Another one Nvidi's classic,
Oh we had some characters.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Man, we really did, which you know goes into another question.
Who were the slappies of the locker room? We had
a lot of slappies. I mean a lot of slappies,
and put we were I'll put in our category we
were slappies. Me and Slay. You were never a slap
one point, man, one point that sounds a rookie.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Year was my first half rookie. Yeah, camp, yeah, an hour.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I want to be a slappy. I know you wanted
to live together. It's proved that we were slapping. No furniture.
This is before j eleven. This is just Jules, This
is not Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
But yeah, that's when we really that's when we really
loved this guy. And it wasn't JA eleven Start Changing
didn't have a podcast.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Like Changing Up. You know that j E eleven came
about making fun of Tom, did it? I started it
by making a j Remember Tom used to he did well.
I one day just made a j E eleven just
to make fun of him and then started selling it,
and I mean tops out of the game.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
He was one of the first ones to kind of like,
you know, make a brand, and who doesn't have that now?
Any top player in the NFL has a brand. So
if you really look at it, Tom kind of created that,
you know what, the twelve symbol.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
So he was a genius. He's always out of the
game and years ahead.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Hey, great job making fun of him.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Turn it into a business. All right? Uh?

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Who was the guy say that you know took you
under your wing? I mean with the coaching staff. Of course,
Scottie O'Brien taught you a lot, But who was that
player that took you under the wing and taught you
what to do out there on the field.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
And the special teams?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Well, yeah, I mean I was really fortunate to come
to the team at a very special time where that
kind of that old guard was still around and those
guys were so much experience, championship experience.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
So just being able to follow around Larry is, oh
my rookie year was huge, huge.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
I mean Larry was like the godfather of special teams
in New England, had had so much success, had a
tremendous career. So I watched him. I followed him around
like a puppy dog. Just all right, Larry's in the
cold tub. I'm in the cold tub. Larry's watching film
I gotta go watch film and he was a great mentor.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Another guy.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
You're not a special teamer, but Benjamin Watson was someone
who really showed me how to be a man, showed me.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
How to be a pole. He just one of the
best men I've ever known.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
And then a blast from the past, Sam Aikin, Sam Aikin,
Sam Aikin, shout.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Out Samy Aikin. He had the sickest card to me
and that thing hug my back, take me to Providence.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
He was a you know, he was a special Teams
captain after Larry, and Sam was great about just making
me feel like, you know, hey, you belong here, like
you're one of us.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
You know, showed me how to be a pro. So
tremendous mentors early on in my career. Sam was the
same way for me as well. He was just a
good dude and he was a ball like. He was
a strong receiver. He was he was twenty.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
He was one of the bigger guys.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
He was big, bigger. Yeah, all right, before we jump
in to the dude that you picked, we gotta have
one is what's the one gronk story that sticks out,
one gronk story that no like just a Gronk.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Hey, you can even go back to your college day.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Oh oh yeah, we battled. Oh I remember, was a coordinator.
I like this, Wayne. That's why, Dwayne Walker, we're getting.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Ready to play these guys. What you were forty nine
in college?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Forty eight my high school number forty eight.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
You know this guy, Dwayne Walker. Butcher, Butcher my man's name.
They got this Grodakowski out there, like, we got an
account for this guy. I like that.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
I mean, and Gronk was obviously dominated in college.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Eighteen years old, I was facing him. He was a
man child.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
But I mean, look, I think one of the stories,
and I don't know if I've ever told you this, Rob.
So the weekend that Rob got drafted, I was down
in New York with Kevin O'Connell and Ryan Wendell. And
Kevin was with us my rookie year, ended up at
the Jets. So we were visiting him and we're walking

(18:21):
the streets of New York and we see Gronk. Now, obviously,
you know, we don't know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I was already drafted. No, you weren't drafted yet.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Who I was? We weren't drafted yet, and we were like, oh, yeah,
that's that tight end from Arizona.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I think he's supposed to be pretty good.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, you know, fast forward, we drafted him and he
turned out to be pretty dull.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
So what was I doing on the streets? What was
I just having a good time and enjoying life? But uh, yeah, man,
that was that was a pretty full circle moment. All right,
that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
And before we get started as well, I got to
obviously ask you a question about Jewels. Then what was
he like as a roommate and how many years were
you guys roommates as well?

Speaker 1 (19:05):
I think it's been documented a million times.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
I mean, I know it's probably around years for years,
and I'll say this about you know, because we've laughed
a lot about us being roommates and and h oh,
but honestly, like, I think it's a great example of
two guys being able to find common ground. Like Jules
and I are different people, different interests, but our relationship

(19:29):
has always been built on respect and you know, respecting
the other guy, and really, you know, our friendship goes
back to that. So I know, for me, if we
don't spend those four years together, my career probably doesn't
go the way that it went. And I tried to,
you know, be a positive influence on him as well
in that Holy Water on.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, and before we get started, another question just popped
to my mind. Do you like this humble Jewels more
and now that he's retired giving credit to everyone? Or
do you like that Jeweles that always had a chip
on his shoulder every time he stopped in the locker room,
just attacking whoever. He kind of attack, going after whoever

(20:09):
he go after? Yeah, kind of time. Who do you
like more? Because I love this?

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Also? I do miss I.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I'm like, come on, Jewels, everyone I try to get
out of He's like, no, Like.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I appreciate it, yea.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Honestly, he brought an edge to a football team that
we needed. I mean it made people uncomfortable, it made
people better. I still think about conditioning with him and
how if I wasn't ready to go, he was gonna
embarrass me. Like he pushed everybody around him to be better.
I remember him yelling at guys we almost get in

(20:47):
fights on the side behinds. But it made me better,
it made our team better. So I kind of missed
that guy. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
I kind of missed that great answer.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Around this time of the year, I can an asshole
in this that pops into my head is usually, you know,
veterans are coming off the field from their conditioning or something.
You go in you see the new draft picks, and
I would always yelling, there are you guys, you guys
bringing of these guys in to take my fucking job.
I'm going, here is this guy taking my job? But

(21:20):
that was the same thing that I heard from Bruski.
That's right, Hevin fall right, you know, it was it
was a standard where like, you better bring your a
game because it made them work harder, and you wanted
to get the best out of them because it was
going to get the best out of you. That's right.
So absolutely, we'll be right back after this quick break.
All right, let's get into pick slate. All right, what

(21:42):
dude he picked for this week's episode. Let's set the
clock to ten minutes. Rob get the AI synopsis.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Ready, there we go here, this is what we do.
Slay every guy that we're talking about. I do a
little AI synopsis on him. I read off what AI
says about the guy, just to summary so we understand
who we're talking about. So let's get on to it.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, I will right here we go.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Standing at six foot five inches tall and weighing two
hundred and twenty pounds, this former NFL wide receiver and
special teams Ace carved out a twelve year professional career
after entering the league as an undrafted free agent in
two thousand and three. Despite going undrafted, he earned three
Pro Bowl selections and was named first team All Pro

(22:25):
in two thousand and seven, solidifying his reputation as one
of the best special team teamers of his era. Let's
get on, Cassimee os good. Oh, look at that mohaw
is oh? Is he one of the first ones, you know,
start that trend of one of those wild haircuts, dying

(22:48):
the mohawk, shaving the sides.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
And a photo.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I think that photo sums it up now, you know,
for me, when I came into the league, and I
think for all of us, it was very that you
learned from other players, guys that had come before you,
that had had success.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
In the league. Captain already and I you know, this
is why he was.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Scott O'Brien came to the team my second year and
my rookie year wasn't great. And Scott really challenged me
to find ways to make myself better. And there were
two guys that he used to call the name of
all the time, Brendan I am Mondejo and then Casim
Oz Good.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
And he would say he would look at me and say,
you ain't know I was good, And I was right.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, I know him, not as good he's been. He's
been in three Pro Bowls. This guy's an animal. But
we would sit there in the off season and we
would study Kasim. And I'm a big believer in and
taken from other guys games, like, hey, if this guy
does this well, has a lot of success, let me
try to incorporate it. The problem was, Casim is six'
five two twenty big. Boy i'm six feet two o

(23:57):
five fast, though So i'm Thinking i'm looking At i'm Saying,
SCOTT i can't play like this.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Guy this guy's an animal out.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
There but WHAT i learned From, kasim and you, know
when people think about gunner, play there are a lot
of ways to play. GUNNER a lot of the guys
that you see now are finesse. Players they win with,
speed they use their, hands they use quickness and counter.
Moves kasim just beat people. UP i mean he was

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the one who initiated. Contact he beat double teams by
just bullying.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
People and he played with an. EDGE i, mean this
guy played with an. Edge like you see that hair right,
There you see. That that's a guy who's got an.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Edge so the one THING i took from his game,
was you, know when you come out, here you should
be the, hammer not the, nail and you gotta play
with an, edge like there's gotta be. Something there's gotta
be some kind of dog in you that pushes you
to go out here and find a way to beat
double teams. Consistently, SO i, mean, LOOK i never was

(24:58):
able to be as physical as guy like, that BUT
i tried to incorporate more physicality into my game after watching,
him and, uh you, know he's one of the o.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Gs so Salute cassim.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
SIM i THINK i, Said, cassim, Right cassim to go
to him for we need. Good, WELL i can tell
you that you can go back To scottie O'Brien and
you could tell him, that, yeah you're not as good
AS i was good because your eyes great three now

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and you.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Met, him you, know we've met him passing and, passing you,
know as when he was With jacksonville and the lines
of the forty nine. ERS i introduced, myself you, know
as he was winding his career down AND i was
kind of getting mine.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Going.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Uh but we've never had a chance to really shit
down and have a. Conversation but, man IF i, COULD
i would say thank you because, he, like he was
one of the guys that paved the WAY i. Think you,
know you think About tasker obviously the, godfather but there
were guys that came after him that continued to shine
a light on the importance of the third phase of the.

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Game and because sim was one of those guys that did,
That and you, KNOW i think the value he brought
to his team showed teams like The, Patriots, hey it
helps to have a guy like.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
This and then on top of the value as, well
he was such a great special, teamer And slay you
were such a great special. Teamer but you helped contribute
to our team in so many other ways in the locker,
room off the field as. Well But i'm the scout.
Team you would be a defender going against us guarding
me Guarding julian and then you would also be a
wide receiver in the scout. Team you would be taking

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first team rep, sometime so you were just an overall just,
teammate team player at all. Times was because sim was
he also an impact in the receiving receiving, game you,
know out on the football.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
FIELD i don't know too much about.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
HIM i, mean this is great that you're talking about
him Because i'm learning about. Him what else did he
do besides special?

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Teams, yeah you know, what he did have some impact
as a. RECEIVER i think most guys have more of
an impegged receiver THAN i. Did miami.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
That tom wind have never threw for over Five. Mber
why do we all Remember slate's only? Catch that was
the YEAR i had the little you, know the little
ten yard out for the, TOUCHDOWN.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
I jumped off sides on a two point. Convert, yes that's.
Right we try to forget that, way. Yea and that
was the last of. It but we were all so
pumped when you caught, that AND i appreciate.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
That but, no you, know he did have some some
a little bit of success as a, receiver AND i,
think like most of, us there was always the desire.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
To contribute as much as you.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Can, Like, look the reality is WHEN i came in the, League,
YEAH i wanted to make the team AND i wanted
to do it HOWEVER i. Could but you always want to,
improve you always want to contribute. More AND i know
he felt the, same you, know AS i, recalled towards
the end of his tenure In San, diego there was
more of a desire for him to play, receiver and
that may have led to his.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Departure uh when he headed To.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
JACKSONVILLE i don't want to, misspeak BUT i think that
factored into. It so he did some things as a
receiver Cal, Poly, uh, yeah Cal, poly and then went
To San Diego. State so you, KNOW i know HE
i don't want to speak for, him BUT i know
he wanted to, play probably more. Receiver we all didn't
want to play more, receiver but you got to do
with what you're good, at and he was pretty dug

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on good at covering.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Kicks we want to, resign resign you, here but you're
not going to play, receiver just special. Teams me not
wanting to put in, me not wanting to be put
in a. Corner As Patrick swayze said In Dirty, dancing
nobody puts baby in a. Corner well there it Is
osgod said that when lev SO i didn't miss speak

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that factor in Him.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Jackson everyone's always trying to, ample you, know some. GLORY i,
mean that's that's who you are as a. Competitor you,
know absolutely doesn't always work. Out did it work out
in this? Case when he went To? Jacksonville did make an?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Impact the way he? Thought it? Was all? Right did you?
Okay did You Pro? BOWL i.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
DIDN'T i, didn't you, know because there's only One Pro
bowl spot we were competing for towards the end there
of his, career so, uh we never crossed paths at
The Pro.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Bowl did you go to The Pro bowl In? HAWAII i?
Did can you give us some? Fun what was? Like you?
Know and that's what we all. REMEMBER i actually never
been to A Pro. Bowl i've. Been have you never?
PLAYED i never played to. ONE i never played in,
One so explain to us what it's like.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
LIKE i, Mean i'll say, This The Hawaii Pro bowl
was really special for me BECAUSE i got to go
as a kid with my. Dad oh, YEAH i remember
getting the experience there AND i never dreamed THAT i
have an opportunity to do it as a.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Pro But, hawaii the people Of hawaii love is so.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Nice they're so. Kind it's. Paradise the food is. Fantastic
we were still playing real football at the, time so
there was. Contact there was, tackling the, pads. Helmets now
they're running around and was their kickoffs?

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Too like we were kick off they were doing.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
That there were live, kickoffs live And i'm running down
next breaking.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Wedges, yeah it was kind of wild way were covering full.
Kickoffs but it was a lot of. Fun i'll tell you.
That it was a lot of. Fun, man The Pro
bowl and we gotta get the pro boile back To.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
HAWAII i agree full head of hair approve of that
picture with the before we were.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Married are talking so you were dog back.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
In it's just the funnel off right. There, alright, alright,
now who's the best special teamer in the? League right?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
NOW i, mean, LOOK i have extreme, bias but to,
me It's brendan's school, schooler.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Voted by everyone in the, league speaks.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
For himself and and to, me there's really no weakness
in his game when you look at. Him you, know
we talk About we always talk about covering kicks and
making plays impact and, coverage but in the return game
is very rare that the guy he's blocking will even
be close to the. FOOTBALL i, mean he's a dominant
player in the return. Game so what about?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
COOL i love. Returns you get blocker and he's a
great blocker and the, vice and that's the thing position.
Flexibility he can play in the, vice but he also
plays in the. Box he can also rush. PUNTS i,
mean he can do a.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Lot he's a he's a freaky, athlete he really, is
SO i, MEAN i love. Him there are a lot
of guys in the league that the vice advice. Vice
any context on the, vice the vice go, ahead slate the.
Vice so when you go out, there the two guys
on the reminner of the punt team or the gunners
when you go across from them on their punt return,

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team the two guys that go out to double team the,
gunner that's the. Vice so it'll be a corner and
a safety body type usually that double that.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Gunner the good.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Ones, anyway if you're getting, singled you're probably not doing
a great job where they're kicking, away, Right so the vice.
Players you, know you'd see a lot Of we put
our best athletes out. There we put them accords out
there for. Years we put a key to leave out.
There Kung chung was out. THERE i, mean we put
a lot of good players out. There it made life
difficult for posing.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Gunners what was it, like you, know you Were All
Pro special teamer and Then Schooler All Pro special, teamer
but you were what the one coaching them last?

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Year you know In New?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
England what was the one piece of advice that you
were Giving schooler and that you would give to other
special teamers as well being An All pro and then
coaching you, know the special team team is.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Now, MAN i feel, ROB i really feel fortunate to
have played With brendan and then had the opportunity to coach.
Him our relationship is a special one because you, Know
i'm much older than, him but for whatever, reason we
clicked and you, know our friendship is one THAT i
really really. Value BUT i think to, ME i saw

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early on, like, hey this kid's got it and to
really take it to the next, level he's got to
have an understanding that it's got to be day after
day after. Day you guys know this nobody shows up
in the game and just makes Plays like what did?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
COACH i always say practice execution becomes.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Reality so once he had that register for, him and
it registered early, on you really saw him elevate and
elevate and keep getting. Better and you, know we used
to say to our guys, like, hey, look it's, no
it's not by accident That brendan is having the success
that he's.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Having Look at how he.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Practices he's practicing harder than everybody on our football.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Team he's running full.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Speed guys are complaining because he's going too, Hard like
that's how you need to work to have, success and
he understands.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
That, well we gotta get back To. Osgoode first, off
he's an. Actor he's an. Actor, Yes, jericho we Were
soldiers Road. Rules i've read this about. Him he's a
he's aspiring. ACTOR i DON'T i don't know That i've
seen any of. Those We Were soldiers was a big.
One glazer what introduced the? Two okay with What Michael

(34:29):
Clark Green? Mile, wow all, right so you, ACT i don't.
Act i'm not as talented as as BROTHER i was.
GOOD i DON'T i don't have, that have you ever.
Act i've never, acted.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Not even in like A patriots schedule release video one of.
THEM i knew you were buy you're an.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Actor they find a way to get you. In and
what was it? Like it was A we did a
retirement house theme one, year So ernie was. THERE i
dropped Dmag off at the. House ivan was. There they
do a good job with. Those those are fun they

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had with the present this year DID i did, great
hilarious time because Sim. Osgoode now we gotta what kind of?
Dude you'll figure out what kind of dude dude? Is
is he stud a guy that was born with, athleticism,

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FOOTBALL I q through the, roof well, rounded always the.
Guy or is he a freak unparalleled physical ability of
one of. One or is he a dog relentless motivated
physically and mentally. Tough is he a whiz he's got
intellect in a innovative he's, Clutch he's he's a, whiz
he's very. Wizardy or is he a dude's dude positive

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attitude to bring the locker room, TOGETHER a guy that's,
calm cool and, collected or just a guy that is
in there to make the locker room. Better, well what
do you think he? Is what kind of dude is?
He i'm going right off, Top, doll he's.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
DOG i mean WHEN i tell you this guy's the bully,
guys he was a bully out, there.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Man it.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Was it was like he enjoyed imposing his will on
smaller corners and safeties, straight.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Doll so just to describe as good as a, whole
you're saying he wasn't really one of the gifted athletic
guys out. There he made it because he was just
an absolute savage on the football field and he wanted it,
more willing to take on so he was kicking as,
well and that.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
He. Did, okay but, okay he's probably a hybrid stud.
DOG i haven't seen two.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Categories it's just One i'm staying.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
WITH i. Agree you, know usually special teamers teamers are
dogs or or of some, sort especially a guy like his,
story undrafted guy to go and become a twelve year
pro with nothing but really special teams on his. RESUME
i know we talk about receiver and that's why he
signed The San diego but he's known as a. Teamer

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that's that's, right that's a. Dog we'll be right back
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of beer for. Us he doesn't know. Good i'll double
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Speaker 4 (37:40):
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Speaker 1 (37:58):
Chill us due to the, week our, boy The Captain
matthew appreciate you. Guys and what we're going to do
is we're gonna sit and Ask slate some questions and
we're going to determine what kind of Dude slate.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Is off the questions that we're gonna ask a. Questions
this is our very first time having a guest on the,
show so we appreciate you coming, here be impatient with,
us just going along with. Us your your two favorite
teammates as you've ever had in a lot of and
being another great teammate once, again but this time in
the nuthouse locker room here at the dude's.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
House so we appreciate.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
You we want to figure out what kind of dude
you are with the questions that we're going to ask.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
You let's, see all, right all, right let's do. This
let's do this first, off you got, You, YES i.
Do i'm taking.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Notes there we, go And i'm gonna, probably you, know
spit some facts out there that we should probably listen
to in life as.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Well because this Is. Slater let's just start. Off let's
start off with a hard. One what kind of dude
do you think you? Are that is tough because you
want to be? Humble? Yeah or you don't you want
to be?

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
YEAH i like to think the team do what was
the descriptions like to be a? Dudes? Dude bring the.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
VIBEBODY i see that positive influence, time positive.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
INFLUENCE i never really seen you as a negative. INFLUENCE
i appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
WELL i, Mean jewels did a lot of negative things
when you were his.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Roommates so what were you doing inside that? House what
was going? On was he a negative? Influence he made
it Out we were. Good he was not your.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Roommate we don't know what you would be on The
giants on The.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Giants you got him to the? HOLIDAYS i want to
take you should all, right so that's what you?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Think all, Right, well it's like did you wear flip
flops in the?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Shower you have to wear flip? Flops you have to have, asked,
well why is?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
That why do you have?

Speaker 3 (40:02):
To Because i've seen some of them feet in there
there on.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
OUT i can't do. IT i get some bad, feet
rant a lot of, route see my own. Feet, yeah
we gotta have so have to due to all, right
who's the most famous person in your? Phone most famous
person in my? Phone? Yeah most? FAMOUS i MEAN i
would say one of you, guys BUT tv PROBABLY TV

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tv pretty, FAMOUS, tv pretty, FAMOUS.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
TB i would, say he's up there's up, THERE i
mean quarterback AND.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Tv, anyways he's most, famous this, guy this, guy we
wish we had his.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Number you guys.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Probably got all five of his cell phone.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Numbers that.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Was SO.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Tv, okay all?

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Right what was your college g P a three point?

Speaker 1 (40:56):
One? Yeah yet.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
That's WHY i didn't make it into THE ivy makes sense,
NOW i was Just i'm disappointed with that one. One
your your g P a and The Special Teams WORLD
i would say at least a three point.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
EIGHT i appreciate that video, extracurriculum video video. Game what
video game did you? Play, oh we're playing IN c
DOUBLE a. Football just making sure you were crazy maniac in. College,
yeah we had an issue with the video. Game, okay
we used to play as a.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Team we played each, other had a pot. Circulating some
of those guys may be. Watching they know who the best,
was and it was, me, Slate you're the.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Best three point one? One did you? Play who did
you play? With what was your team on N c TWO.
A i would, go you Play Ohio state with what year? Was?
Again another special? Teamer we go four, wide spread it,
out and then you Had Troy smith running. Quarterback SEE

(41:58):
i can still remember my. Rock we were. Good we
had that. Thing he's hitting four, verticals get it, out
get it out us your coming run, up run from
get the. Edge all, Right so N c TWO a played. That,
okay what was the song on your college highlight? Film
ooh hm, HMM i cannot. Recall we can't. RECALL i can't.

(42:23):
Recall play too much. Football, yeah, Yeah i've been hitting the.
Head i've been hitting the. Head, no let me put
that on that could hurt.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
You how many college offers did you get out of high?

Speaker 1 (42:36):
School i'm gonna, say like fifteen were? YOU i was
at three. SCHOOLS i was. NOT i was not rob
coming out funny, enough four.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
STAR i had a. FIFTEEN i committed to go To
dartmouth out of out of high. SCHOOL i was gonna
go to The Ivy league route WHEN i was taking
my studies seriously in high. School and, uh you, KNOW
i chose to stay at home and go TO la
and play at, home PLAY d one, obviously.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
So that was a great. Choice your top Five Public,
universe number, One top, five number, one top, five Cow
bears Out.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Arizona look at the latest right.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Division now you're number. Two all, Right, slate let's get
back into. This determine what kind of guy you. Are
what was your first?

Speaker 5 (43:29):
Car my first actual car was A LEXUS x sixty
fancy AND i got that my third year in the
league was rinting my dad's.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Car first ever. Car what was your first? Ever it
was my Dad's Lexus Flexis lexis. Family tell you what
it makes a good, Product then make a good. Product,
okay what do you drive? Now right, Now i'm Gonna
i'm in An Audi Audi electric, tron one of people
for The. Earth let's see no determine what kind of

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duty is? Good good note to put in Parenthesies Electric.
Electric put that in parenthesase.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Slate what was your first endorsement?

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Deal my first endorsement Deal Rebok rebadbard told this. Before
rebok cut me. Loose rebok cut me, loose cut you.
Loose they cut me loose after my third. Year well
THEY i think they on the Ten Pro bowls And.
Nike yeah that Thanks. Rebok oh, oh, well never. Mind

(44:39):
you Told reebok to kick kicked me in the. Curve
BUT i Think reebok kicked everyone to the. Curb they
left THE. NFL JJ jj was still wearing rebox J J.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Watt he was still Wearing he hit his own line to,
shoot which probably would have CHOSEN jj over ME Jj.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Rebok let me see That rebok all, right kind of
like a throwback type of. Guy the old, pumps you know,
them you'rees good Old Jim wall and you walk in
the train, room, Coach i'm.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Hurting just pump your, shoes get out of, here pump those.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
SHIPS i need to stay out of there with jimbo.
Early all, right what what's the square root of one forty? Four?
OH i, know BUT i can't give him the. Answer,
oh phone a friend on, this that's, Easy. Slate come, on,
man you're committed the.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
Darkments it's all, right we got. It you're just you're just.
US i don't. KNOW i Thought i'm not a math.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Guy didn't.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Know, wait you really don't know that it's Twelve, okay,
YEAH i didn't.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Know it's twelve fast not fast. Enough describe your? Locker
was it Mess? Oh? Messy, okay yeah it was. Bad.
Man we've been there for so long it's. Hard. YEAH
i MEAN i got ALL i got all this in.
THERE i got sixteen.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Years one of the stuff stuff so many people say
in bibles and stuff to, SLATE i mean.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Game, jerseys in the uniforms to.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Nikes, YEAH i mean there's a lot of there's a
lot of sixteen years in one, SPOT a lot of
a lot of, stuff, stuff a lot of. Stuff all,
RIGHT i got. One if you weren't a pro, athlete
who would you work for or what would you? Do?

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Well you, Know i've always had a passion for, Ministry
SO i think you know my plan BEFORE i got,
drafted was become a youth.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Pastor so that would have been the ROAD i would
have taken a. Pastor put that, down all, right that's
p s a t o or as a.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Pastor now and a fight breaks out at, practice what
do you?

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Do oh of we.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Gotta i'm gonna do the same THING i did When
rob Fought Michael bennett at the end of The seattle
explain that, fella you, know LIKE i don't you, KNOW
i don't WANT i don't want guys fighting out, there
but you know that's part of the.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Deal sometimes it's. FOOTBALL i guess this is a gladiator,
sport so it. Happens all. Right what's the most you've
ever bench? Pressed? Oh you? Know, yeah you? Were you
were in that mine.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
That was that was maybe pre the four shoulders S.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
So acted like he didn't, know but new mm hm
three seventy. Five that explains a. Lot what type of guy?
Is oh? Man a? Trickster all have you ever been?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Fined and for how MUCH i have been fined FROM
nfl or from coach from THE?

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Nfl oh face mask my rookie year in the, PRESEASON
i go my entire, career.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Don't get fined.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Again my last, YEAR i get fined twice for you,
know illegal crackback blocks Because i'm trying to hustle and
block for the. Returner he didn't say. It, NO i
didn't say. IT i went head. Hunting forearm shiver up. High,
No james, Thrash i'm just Getting James.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Stretcher james.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Thrash i'm just kidding THAT i was not head. Hunting
i'm just that was no illegal crackback. Blocks so you're
just running towards the other.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Side i'm just trying to finish my, box which is
completely understandable for a guy that played in the era
where it was okay to do. That that's it's hard
for him to change his mindset in the latter part
of his.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Career, yeah, well change your mindset once you get. Fined
But i'm kind of taking it.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
There he's kind of a dirty, player. Dude, yeah face
like he's freaking playing, hard playing, hard our whistle to
whistle rob getting fined, twice that's not that.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Much, YEAH i, Know i'm just, messing what's your fastest forty?

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Times, OH i mean we know how this, goes, Right
you're fast may at one time. Ran WHEN i was,
TRAINING i ran. There, yeah that's the. ONE i ran
up four to eight for to eight. Four WHEN i was,
TRAINING i had a. Second what was your fastest one hundred?
Meter what was your high school? Time high? SCHOOL i

(49:29):
ran ten six two ten six two. Seventeen, now how
fast do you think you could have got that if
you were training as a, man if you put on
a man, HOURS i mean you put it into your
SPECIAL i don't like to talk about WHAT i could
have done in, this BUT i ran WHEN i ran
in high.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
SCHOOL i did not live. WEIGHTS i didn't live. Anyways
in high, school you know se. FASTER i was seventeen
my senior, Year SO i THINK i could have you,
KNOW i THINK i could have touched.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Ten three ten two ten three. TEN i ran over twenty.
THREE i was an hour with pads with pat twenty?
Three so? Fast was that your last year as? Well?
OH i wouldn't run the twenty three last? Year? Okay
and then like LAST i was like fifteen to. Six
it was bad right back got he had, It he

(50:19):
got up and he had. It, wait last speed? Question
could you Beat Randy moss in a two? Hundred now
we have this. Debate, OH i, know we have this.
Debate we argue. THIS i, mean look in my, prime
In randy's, PRIME i could HAVE i could have been
ten meters behind him in my prime slaying up Against
Randy moss's speed. Man that's an all time speed all,

(50:43):
Right so we did what was the? Forties he ran
like a four to, One, no you're ran four to.
TWO i don't know if he, ran but he we
used to mess. With he. Floats he does.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Float it's Because randy was what like thirty, two thirty three,
ree we were spry and chatt, o'shay you should mess
With randy all the.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Time slack can beat. You slack can Be randy didn't
like the hated. It he didn't like, that but that was.
Fun he'd be, like, Oh, chatty oh.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
All, right when's the last time you? Cried besides when
you heard you were? Coming last TIME i? Cried but
you know WHAT.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
I was at A i was at a funeral For
Don Hasselbeck don hassel a couple of weeks. Ago, funeral great,
man great mentor for my wife AND i and uh,
yeah great football.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Family yeah they really. Are they're great.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
People WHENEVER i see uh hassleback just always a Great oh.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah they're just tremendous, family really good ON tv. Too,
yeah they already knowledge sharp, guys sharp.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Man what's the first date with? You look? Like first?
Date first? DATE i like to go somewhere. Quiet where
are we gonna actually where we can talk walk and? Talk? Okay,
yeah you know you go to a, movie you're not really.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Talking you, Know dinner is a toss, up you, know
maybe you just go hang out at the park or
my Wife and our first date was a cheesecake, factory
beautiful With.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Gary Get.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Gary he was start willing, it but you know it
give us an opportunity to. Talk you got to talk
on a day you gotta get to know one to.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Not really important question to follow up on, that what
cheesecake did you guys? Order oreo cheese? Kid come? On so?
Good quick story About gary.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Guy and he was WHEN i was a, rookie he
was a linebacker here for The, patriots and he made
me feel LIKE i couldn't, play you, know at this
level in THE nfl because he jammed me on my
very first route AND i didn't get off the line
of scrimmage for about five seconds and then he finally
backed up and the ball was already. THROWN i was
one yard off the line of scrimmage when time threw.
That Bossle, gary you made me feel really.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
CALL i think it worked. Out all you need that you?
Need that woke me. Up that's.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
RIGHT i GOTTA i gotta really focus off this last.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
In the light of where we're. At someon would call
that a an fl. Baptism some would we gotta we
gotta wrap this. Up okay a little. Longer you didn't
do it with your four. Kids what's? That he?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Said we got to wrap it? UP i, said what
you didn't do with your four? Kids it's getting out of.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Control, multi that's what you shall. Do that's questions about.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
IT i shall do my.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Job what's the last book we? Read last? Book The
psychology Of? Money, uh it's a lot to.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
You it talks, about you, know how our perspectives sometimes
shift once we start making, money and how greed really
plays a huge factor and a lot of people experiencing financial.
Ruin AND i think you know that is very, true
especially In. America SO i got to read.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
That but what's it called the? Psychology? Wow that's? Pee? Why,
okay just making. Sure, wow, SLATE.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
I told you it's gonna be a Great he's going
to keep, us you, know straight. Edge that's what he's.
Doing we're learning from, him that's what we're.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Learning a lot from. Him and we already knew a
lot about. Him we knew everything about, him but now
we're learning. More, yeah you got one more question and
one more.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Question all, right this is a good one one because
we really haven't talked about this category with.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
You, yeah how did you prepare your? Steak were you like.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
An absolute dog animal outside just a wild?

Speaker 1 (54:50):
One i'm going rare now. Here here's a here's an
inside track for you.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Guys if you ask ten black folks how they prepare their,
steak seven of them are gonna say well?

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Done okay are? You AND i came up a well done?

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Guy and THEN i started hanging out with my brothers
from the other AND i realized that medium maybe medium.
Rare i'm a medium medium medium guy.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Converted. Me and then, lastly how do you eat that?
Steak depends on who's? Around by. YOURSELF i have to
go hands. Fortnight, No, no you're by. YOURSELF i like. That,
okay when you get down to the bottle. Hand you
pick it up with your. Hand the hand when.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
On that, bomb me and my sons were going, bone,
okay my wife, Around i'm USING i gotta use the fore.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Gun you're teaching the boys that you gotta get all the.
Meat you gotta, Go meat left, behind meat close to
the bone is some of the best meat on that
on that. State, WELL i think we got all our.
Stuff let's one, second we're gonna let's let's go review this.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Ernie shall we go to the? Ernie we gotta look
look this.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Over you. See, yeah he thinks he's a. Dudes he
was three point. ONE i thought he was gonna be.
Too so he's really not a. Whiz that's. Freaky that's.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
Freaky academic read about, money oh Aad and he likes
his steak medium and also.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Eats it with the hands when no one's, around but
preferably uses Forking knight brown With, okay all, right you
know WHAT i? Got, yes, yes, definitely mm. Hmm on,
three what do we think he? Is? One? Two? Three? Whizz,
yeah we. Wizz we think you're. Whizz as as we
we kept on saying throughout this, interview we kept on
learning about new. STUFF I I i learned that greed

(56:58):
is the route to people who their. Money, YES i
learned that if you're six foot five and a, dog
you could play special teams for twelve. YEARS i learned
so much About. OSGOODE i, mean, YES i MEAN i
was a little disappointed with YOUR. Gpa but there's a lot.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Of factors out of there that you were committed To
dartmouth because that's, smart but you were doing so many
other things as, well like being an all star in
the video game world and be the brain out, there
and that was helping you out on the, field and
you knew that was your real master of your.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Life. Fulltimo still a three point.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
One you got by and you didn't even care about
what was going on in the school. World you still
got a three point, one but you were a master
with a four point zero on the field and then
video games that made a lot of money doing that
to take care of your.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Family it, is you know, what and also. Smart you
have to be a wizard to be a teamer for
sixteen years in this fucking. League it's really, like that's
what people don't. Understand for you to constantly innovate yourself
each year to bring value to a team where they're

(58:02):
literally giving up a roster spot for you to just
play special. Teams that's unheard. Of sixteen years pro, bowler thirteen,
years all, pro eleven years. Whatever that's that's that's that's a.
Wizard that's a. Wizard it's Freaking it's like Some Harry potter. Shits.
LATE i know you're religious and you don't read that,
stuff but it's Like Harry potter's. Magic i'll take. YOU

(58:27):
i appreciate, You, yes, Yes.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Late we appreciate you coming on the, show being our
first guest here On dudes On.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Dudes we weren't.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Really sure HOW i was gonna, go BUT i can
tell you, this you took, it you, know to a
whole other level with. Us, man we felt really comfortable with,
you and not just on top of it that you're
a wiz. Man you're a dude's dude as. Well you
bring the, team you're a dude's, dude you're a dog's
on the. Field but the main aspect of your life.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Is that you are a wizard. Man that's why you
are a.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Whiz CAN i just say, Something, yeah go, ahead let
me just say one. Thing i'm very proud of it
to you guys for how you transitioned out of the
game and how successful this next chapter is for both
of you.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Guys keep keep killing. It thanks, man thank. YOU i,
Mean i'm gonna Sh i'm gonna sh a single tear me,
Too i'll shed a. TEAR i feel like this is
a time back in Two.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
You know, something your stud as. Well now that was
toudly what you just.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
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Speaker 2 (59:47):
Slater thank you To Matthew slater for joining us. Today
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Speaker 1 (59:53):
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