October 9, 2025 • 44 mins
Earsay kicks off with a deep dive into Audible’s immersive, full-cast adaptation of Jane Austen’s Pride and Prejudice. Host Ed Helms is joined by Jennie Garth (90210, I Choose Me podcast) to explore the audiobook’s lush sound design and standout performances from Marisa Abela, Harris Dickinson, Bill Nighy, and Glenn Close. Together, they unpack the enduring appeal of Austen’s classic romance, draw surprising connections between Elizabeth Bennet’s fierce independence and Garth’s iconic “I choose me” moment from 90210 and so much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, and welcome to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audio
book Club. It's the book club for audiobook lovers. I'm
ed Helms and I am cal Penn.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Each episode, Ed or I will tackle a different Audible
title with your favorite hosts and special guests from across
the iHeart Podcast world and beyond. They'll share what they heard,
what they loved, and what they can't stop thinking about.
You've heard the books, Now hear the ear.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Say earsay that title? Are we all getting it? Cal
break it down? Sure?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
If I need to get specific well pronounced earsay. It's
a play on hearsay, but unlike hearsay, you shouldn't ignore it.
You want to listen to the ear say it's the
lively chatter that follows a great audiobook.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I'm not sure I get it. Can you use it
in a sentence? Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Uh, let's see. I finished the book. Now I'm catching
up on the ear say see what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, Okay, that's far.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
This season, we're going to be getting into some really
fun titles that push the limits of the audiobook format.
So we'll dive into an oral history of one of
the funniest movies in the eighties. We'll do a supernatural
thriller co authored by m Night Shamalan.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We'll also dive into the full cast audio edition of
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. It stars Riz Ahmed,
Hugh Laurie, and Matthew mcfaddian.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
This is our audiobook club, and you're invited.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Cow. Do you have a formative audiobook memory?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I guess formative audio book memory. I really like listening
to audiobooks from authors who whose voices are kind of iconic.
There's something about getting that firsthand that I like. But
really the like, the more universal side of that. I
remember listening to somebody like a Mindy kayale Right is
(02:21):
so sweet and bubbly, and her whole persona is that
of like I'm everybody's friend. So when you listen to
a fun memoir that she's written, and it's vulnerable and
it's funny and.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Absolutely how about you?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, I totally agree you have a formative audiobook memory.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'm not sure thinking back when I really started to
get into audiobooks, but but I've been into them for
a long time and there's one experience that I had
that I that I just love. I still think back
on fondly. I was on a road trip by myself
on the open road in the Western United States for
(03:01):
thirteen hours straight and I had to get from A
to B, so I just was kind of like barreling
through as efficiently as I could, and I put in
this audio book The Overstory. The Overstory is this incredibly
rich and deep and beautiful novel, and it's also one
that is quite overwhelming with the just amount of it's dense.
(03:25):
There's so much narrative, there's so much sort of color
and experience to this story. But because I was able
to just dial in on the open road, I just
was riveted and it made this the entire day of
driving just like disappear. I was so immersed in this
book and I and to this day, I love it.
(03:46):
I think it's such an incredibly powerful and beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Book that's so cool, like a TimewARP for you.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, audiobooks are timewarps because they're so immersive.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I assume you narrated the audiobook commercial of your book, right, correct, Yes, Yes,
I did the same. I wrote this memoir called You
Can't Be Serious, and the subtext is about systemic change
in Hollywood and Washington. But really it's like a collection
of short stories that I just want people to be
able to laugh at, whether they're reading it by the
pool or kind of listening to it on the subway
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around on a drive. And I remember when my editor
called after I turned in the manuscript and she said, so,
do you want to record and narrate your audiobook or
do you want to give it to somebody else? And
I was so confused by that, like why would the
amount of self deprecating jokes alone and the weird voices
that I do in my head that could so easily
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like with the wrong voice, could just like a problematic situation.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, I wrote a book that's more sort of my
comedic take on some straight history stories. It's called SNAPO,
The Definitive Guide to Histories Greatest screw Ups, available wherever
you get your books, and the same thing. I was
so proud of it. I was like, I'm not I
don't want I don't want some other jerk just like
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rattling this thing off.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
In your book, by the way, came from your podcast,
which is also called Snaffo.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yes, thank you for mentioning that. My my podcast Snaffoo
also about history's greatest grew ups. Season four is coming out,
and I'm having guests come on and I tell them
about a snafoo and we reflect on what these snaffoos
say about humanity, and spoiler alert, it's usually not good
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things about humanity.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You also have a podcast I do, or I guess
technically I will. It is still a very big secret
for right now, but we will announce it on the
fourteenth of October. But yes, we do podcasts, we do
audio books, and we're maybe the perfect guys to host
a podcast about audiobooks.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, yes, And so for our first episode today, we
have the pleasure of stepping into the carriages and drawing
rooms of Regency England. Our guest and I listened to
the audible reimagining of a piece of the English literature canon,
Jane Austen's eighteen thirteen masterpiece, Pride and Prejudice. It came
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out during the peak of the Romantic era, when people
like John Keats and Lord Byron were writing about passion
and mortality and the nature of beauty. But Pride and
Prejudice offered witty, sharp social commentary at a time when
the novel itself was seen as kind of frivolous. Austin
published it anonymously, which was common for women authors at
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the time. Writing novels was seen as an improper way
for women to spend their time. Pride and Prejudice was
a smash hit and went on to be instrumental in
shaping what the English novel would become. Austin's narrative style
is called free indirect speech. That's when the thoughts and
speech of any character can be written out in the
voice of the narrator, which is totally familiar to a
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modern reader, but was groundbreaking when the book came out.
Cal Have you ever read Pride and Prejudice? I read
enough of it, but yes, I remember reading it a
quick refresher. Pride and Prejudice is the story of the
quick witted Elizabeth Bennett, who finds herself navigating complicated social
dynamics in a romantic back and forth with a man
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she calls the quote proudest and most disagreeable man in
the world, the handsome and delusive and of course fabulously rich,
mister Dawesy. The themes in Pride and Prejudice are timeless.
We're talking self discovery class. Of course, both Pride and
Prejudice question, cal in your relationship, are you more than
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mister Darcy or more the Lizzie Bennett?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Oh my gosh, I mean digging?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Am I digging too deep?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And no, you're not digging deep at all. It's one
of those things where I'm probably more of like the
Lizzie Bennett, but like aspirationally, I would love to be
a mister Darcy. I would love to have the the handsome,
you know, I'd love to be fabulously rich. So I'm
not trying to script the question, but maybe an amalgam
of both. Leaning towards the miss Bennett.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Well good, I mean it's a win win. They're both
remarkable characters. Lizzie just has this like irrepressible verb and
kind of sass and deep intelligence, and mister Darcy, we learn,
has like great integrity and of course a lot of money.
So if you're a combination of those two, you're you're
doing You're doing good. So this new Audible adaptation of
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Pride and Prejudice is less of an audio book and
more like a mini series for your ears, with immersive
sound design and original music. It stars Marisa Abella as
Elizabeth and Harris Dickinson as mister Darcy. It's faithful to
the original, but it's told from Elizabeth's perspective in a
(08:59):
highly suggestive way that kind of sizzles in the intimate
audio format. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I'm not concerned at all. I'm really trying to illustrate your.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Character and do you succeed?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Not at all.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I hear such different accounts of you. I can't make
any sense of it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Ooh, Steamy, Marissa, Abella, Marisa, Marisa, excuse me, Marisa, Yeah, amazing.
I just did a little arc on Industry. We did
not have scenes together, but even her voice is so
if you're a fan of that show, she is so
so good.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, this is giving some pretty saucy vibes. Yeah, I'm
not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Did they make you watch the like nineteen sixties version
of Romeo and Juliet in high school?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Oh, I have a vague memory of that.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I remember that they we watched that and it was like, okay,
all right, it did. I don't think it helped me
understand and the material any better. But then when I
was in college, the Leo DiCaprio, Claar Danes, Baz Luhrmann
version came out and that was like whoa. Yeah, you know.
The to illustrate the timelessness of literature, especially Shakespeare obviously
(10:15):
was like bonkers. Anyway, just listening to that clip, have
something like that brought to life by a voice you recognized,
was yeah, very riveting.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It's it's uh yeah, it's very compelling. Yeah, there's there's
more star power in this production too. By the way,
the legendary British thespian Bill Nye plays Elizabeth's father, mister Bennett,
and Glenn Close plays the domineering and downright kind of
scary lady Catherine de Bourg. Let's listen to another clip.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Tell me once and for all are you engaged to him?
I am not, And will you promise me never to
enter into such an engagement?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Can I promises of the kind?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Oh? That Lizzie just the backbone, she's so tough.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Oh, she will not make any promises.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I've worked with Glenn Close. She is one of the
most lovely human beings you'll ever know, But man, she
can play tough.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I would This goes back to the earlier question you
asked me about, like who I'm more like I would
love in modern times like today, if somebody on a
work call asks me to promise them something, I just
want to say that I will make no promises.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Of the kind.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I just want to use that line.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I will make no promises of the kind. Yeah, that's
you're right, that's a stinger.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Why don't you ask me if I'll be part of
this interview and I will say that I will make
no promises of the kind.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'm gonna get this party started with our first guest.
Thanks so much for helping me kick off this podcast.
We're gonna have a ton of fun and here we go.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, man, I am. I'm very excited. Enjoy, enjoy the convo.
I will hop off and leave you to the rest
of this one.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Well, our first guest on the Earsay podcast. You know
her as Kelly Taylor from the legendary Beverly Hills nine
oh two one zero. She starred in What I Like
About You. She also starred in the reality shows Jenny Garth,
A Little Bit Country and The Jenny Garth Project. Now
she is host of the iHeart podcast I Choose Me
(12:27):
with Jenny Garth and just in case you haven't done
the math and figured it out already, I am of course,
talking about the legendary Jenny Garth. Jenny, welcome to Earsay.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
What's that you say?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Ere Earsay ear say, uh, yeah, it's just we think
it's a neat name. We're very proud of our cute name.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
But uh, it is good, it's catchy.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Ear.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, you're you're our first guest.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
What.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, it's just such a thrill to have you on
board right out of the gate.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I'm so happy to be here. And you know what,
we're talking about one of my favorite books slash movies
of all time. How did that happen? I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It's no accident because your podcast and as sort of
career has touched on so many of these themes, and
it feels like it just felt like such a good
fit out of the gate. But the fact that you
love it makes it even better.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yep, yep, true.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Well right out of the gate. What have you been
reading lately? Any books caught your fancy?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Oh my gosh, you know, I do a lot of
reading just in prep for my podcast when I have
guests on that have new books coming out, So that
has really taken over all of my reading opportunities lately.
I just read a book that's about to come out
by Jen Hatmaker called a Wake. It is so good.
I enjoyed Tina Knowle's really great book come out now
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that long ago. So I like a memoir laced with lessons.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I like that. I like that a lot. I've been
I'm much more of like a just a straight history nerd.
I've been reading Dead Wake, which is the story of
the last crossing of the Lusitania ship.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I trying to tell you that sounds interesting. I love history.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
It is cool. Yeah, I mean, this is a this
is like a cruise ship that got shot by German
U boats, and it's a wild story. It's totally true.
It's just straight history, but it's a it's a very
very cool account. Are you an audio book person?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I read audio books like when it first started happening,
and then I read audio books. That doesn't make sense.
I listened to audio books.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I'm making can say. I think you can say you
read an audio book.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I think I can get credit for it. Okay, yeah,
good good. So I hadn't really like gotten more into them,
and I was busy, been busy, But then I listened
to this one and I was really blown away at
how far they've come. Yeah, this is like a whole
new experience one that I like.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
This is almost more like a dramatic interpretation than just
like a straight audio book. It really is.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
It's like you're watching the movie, but you're not stuck
to watching the screen, and then you get to have
your imagination as would if you're reading it, but it
kind of fills in all the little details and all
the things that you would see when you're watching the movie,
which is so cool.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, it's arguably more immersive because it's giving you all
of the audio sort of spatial and environmental cues, but
it relies entirely on your imagination to conjure these images
and characters. The dawn of audio books dramatically increased my
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intake of books, really, yeah, because I have ADHD and
I struggle to kind of stay engaged. I have sort
of like my working memory is very scattered and sort
of broken, and so that's what reading requires, is to
sort of hold information and context in your head. Weirdly,
(16:11):
when I'm listening to text, my working memory fires. It
just is like dialed in and I can listen at
extremely high speeds. Weirdly, I don't know why, But I
really enjoy just taking in the information almost just like
a funnel, like ah, just taking it as much as
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I can. So yeah, it makes reading faster and more
immersive for me. I just love audio books. Jenny, you
host the iHeart podcast I Choose Me First. Can you
explain the significance of that title?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Well, I am probably best known for Beverly Hills Onoto Ando,
which was a show that lasted the entire span of
the nineties decade, and at one point, my character Kelly
Taylor had this moment where she was in this love
triangle and she had to choose between two guys, the
two you know, like Brandon and Dylan. It was big,
everybody was watching it. It's kind of like what's happening
(17:08):
right now with the young people. There's a show called
The Summary Turn Pretty where it's people are watching it
and we everybody has something to say about who she
should pick. Sure, so it's exactly the same beat as
we played in the nineties on nine Totoentoo. It's so
fun to watch it come back, but it's a really
interesting message. She chose herself instead of choosing one of
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the guys, So she said, I choose me, and I
didn't really understand the significance of that at that age.
You know, in my life, I was probably nineteen twenty,
and I feel like now, looking back at things, you
kind of reach that age where you take stock of
your life, where you've been, what felt good and in alignment,
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and where you felt like you had accomplishments. It kind
of revisiting those places and I thought, you know what
that is something that message, I know, really helped a
lot of young women who were watching the show in
real time to identify the fact that they could choose
themselves in any given moment. Of course, so many women
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said I didn't really know that I could choose myself
until I saw Kelly Taylor do it, and so I've
I kind of thought, wow, that's really meaningful, and I
think that's a message that needs to continue forward. So
I was kind of lost. I didn't know what I
wanted to do with my career, and you know, things
are weird now in the business. So I just said,
I'm going to focus on spreading something that's important to me.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I love that it's like put on your oxygen mask first,
right when the plane's going down. What's really interesting about
it is as an idea I choose me. It might
ring at first like self absorbed or narcissistic even, but
it truly is the way I hear you talk about it,
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and as I've listened to your podcast, it's truly a
generous disposition. It's a way of presenting to the world
in a way where you know your own value, right,
and when you do that, you are elevating the people
around you as well. Definitely, all right, let's get into
Pride and Prejudice a little bit here, Yes, but let's
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sort of segue from nine o two one zero into
Pride and Prejudice. So Kelly had that famous moment of
choosing between Dylan and Brandon. Do you think Kelly would
have fallen for someone like mister Darcy or would she
have gone for a Wickham first?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Without a doubt in my mind, she would have fallen
in love with mister Darcy.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Oh that's great, all right.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I mean I did, and you know we're pretty similar, so.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Good, good, Yeah, for sure, I think that says the
right thing about Kelly and Jenny. So Bride and Prejudice
it's considered an important novel, right, but what makes it
a fun novel. What is it about the story that's
fun to you?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
It's the romance it's always going to come back to
that really draws people in. And you get so invested
in the characters and you see them making mistakes, and
you see them learning from those mistakes and figuring things
out along the way.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
And I just love period pieces, the costumes and the
horses and the carriages, and the just the beautiful way
everyone carries themselves. It's so different than it is now
that I just find it really refreshing to look back
and remember what things used to be like.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, I think you're right on the money. It's such
a classic romantic tale, which is always riveting. I also
think there's something just for us as Americans. There's something
so alluring about that subtle British wit. Yeah, that kind
of like dry sarcasm, but there's a sweetness underneath it.
You can tell these characters have affection with each other,
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even though they kind of bite at each other.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, it's fun to listen to their banter for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
And I think Austin's writing is it's fun and accessible,
but it's also sort of making commentary. And she has
a wonderful warmth towards all of these characters. It's a
special novel.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Did you read it in high school?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I think I pretended to read it in high school
and probably just read cliff notes.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So this new Audible production is a full cast audio adaptation,
complete with star performances, sound design, and original music. What
stood out to you in this production while listening?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Well, I went into it not knowing what I was
going to be hearing, like this new way of listening
to a book. But I was drawn in immediately by
the sound design. I felt as if I was in
the room room with these characters and I was in
their conversation, and there is something so inclusive about that.
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So for me, it was really about the sound design,
just the footsteps and the doors opening and closing. It's
like it's real. It's like it's really happening.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I agree, it's totally immersive. There's a beautiful score woven
in by Morgan Kibbie. There's a subtle bit of sound
design that I thought was so effective where Lizzie's voice
is given a kind of this like reaver some effect
anyway that makes it clear that you're in her head,
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in her inner monologue. You're going in and out of
Lizzie's head in a way that for the listener this
might sound crazy, but it's actually totally intuitive. When you
listen to it, it makes perfect sense. What role would
you want to play?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I mean in this story? Are you really going to
ask me that? Lizzie Luy, Yeah, I mean great, She's
just so smart and so independent and strong. I just
love HER's she says it like it is.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
You would be an incredible Lizzie.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Oh god, thanks, such a coment.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
This is not a trick question, no wrong answer. What
role would I play?
Speaker 4 (23:21):
You know what? I can see you as mister Darcy.
You got a little Colin first.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Okay, that's really sweet. I appreciate that. But are you
sure I'm not I'm not the dad. I mean I'm
not mister Bennett here.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
I mean with the right you know, wardrobe, hair and makeup.
I think it's you.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Pride and Prejudice, as you mentioned before, has been made
into multiple TV series, movies, reimaginings and so on. Do
you have a favorite version?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Oh yeah, BBC original, Yeah, Colin.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
First, Jennifer e Lee. Yep, there's something about that version
that just captured Jane Austen's tone acting too.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I think Colin just the way you hated him and
loved him at the same time, and his stature like
does everything about it. I was head over heels for him. Delicious,
It's delicious.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yes, of course, yes. So what is it about those
Brits they're so beguiling? What do you think it is
about pride and prejudice that has given it such incredible
staying power for more than two hundred years.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Well, I don't think it hurts that they keep reimagining it. Sure,
you know, I think they've done you know, like you
said before, it goes from BBC to Hallmark to Disney Channel,
like there's always going to be their interpretation for a
different age group audience.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Amen.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I think what's made it last it's just it's a timeless.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Story, Yeah, exactly, Like.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
That's at its heart, it's a timeless story.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I mean, like humans were just suckers for a great
love story. But this one has this really wonderful trope
of the people that are destined to be together but
hate each other at first, Right, they start off with
all the friction. Yeah, that's satisfying. They when they realize.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Yeah, that moonlighting energy, like.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, moonlighting, Oh perfect.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
They hate each other, but you know they love each
other and you're just waiting on the edge of your
seat for them to finally get together.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Marriage is obviously a major theme in Pride and Prejudice.
Norms around marriage have changed profoundly in the last two
hundred and twenty five years.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Thank God.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
What are some things that this book says about marriage
that might still be true today?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Well, I think in Lizzie's case, she wanted to find
somebody that could keep up with her intellectually, and that
the spice that she you know, finding someone that can
sort of spar with you when you want to spar
and roll with you when you want to roll, like
she wanted that then, and I think, I know I
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still want that as a woman in this day and age.
I don't want to be bored. I don't want to
be a comfortable kept woman. I think, you know, there
are all different kinds of women and they all have
different needs. Back then, it was about finding a husband
because that's how you survived.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, And I think to what you're speaking to about,
you know, being able to spar with somebody without it
threatening the integrity of the relationship is really about having
an underlying respect for one another, and a deep sort
of abiding respect that transcends the petty moments or the
hard moments of conflict. What I love about pride and
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prejudice is that really their love story. In my view,
they realize they love each other when they built respect
for one another, and that's what's ultimately gratifying. And it's
a little bit in defiance of some of the norms
of the day. All Right, I asked my co host
cal this question before. Who in your marriage is more
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of the Darcy and who is more of the Elizabeth
or are you another character altogether?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Oh, I feel like hmmm, honestly, it's kind of weird.
I never really thought about it, but I think my
husband's morally mister Darcy. He's got that like dry quick
wit and walks to his own drum. It has that
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air of independence and almost like a little bit of
arrogance sometimes, which must be appealing to me because I'm
liking it here again with him.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Pride. Yeah, the pride, pride and prejudice exactly.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
So I like that in a man, and that confidence
that's great, And yeah, i'd probably be more like Lizzie
just because she doesn't just go with the way she's
told to go. She wants to have her own path.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I would say my wife is definitely Lizzie. I'm maybe
more of a Bingley in what way. I just like
the I'm the fun guy. That's my main contribution is
just being like, agreeable and fun and hopefully stable.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Those are all great qualities, so I.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Like to think. So I like to think I bring
something to the table.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Of course, at the end of the story, despite all
odds being against it, Elizabeth and Darcy end up engaged.
I can't say Darcy just like I have to say
Darcy Saws. They surprise each other and they surprise themselves,
and through that new knowledge, their love becomes possible. We
have a clip.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
You showed me how insufficient all of my pretensions were
to please woman worthy of being pleased.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Oh it's the birds for me right that listener. That
is a little taste of the sound design just all
through this thing that is so so wonderful. Do you
think there's an element of wish fulfillment here, Like a
really smart young woman meets a really smart, handsome, wealthy man.
(29:25):
Austin Jane Austen started writing this at age twenty, so
perhaps there's something aspirational in this story. What do you
think for sure?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
I think, I mean, speaking for myself, Yeah, you want
that romance and you want that challenge and intrigue. If
anything's too easy, it feels like it's not worth it somehow.
And I feel like both of the characters in this
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book really have their own personal jarnies to go through
until they find that mutual respect. Looking past the stereotypes
and past what all the other women that he had
to choose from were, and then learning that she, like
he said, she's worthy of his love. That's saying a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, and knowing that that Jane Austen started writing this
at age twenty, I'm eager to kind of do more
research on Austin and what kind of person was she
who was such a keen observer of human behavior and
the human condition and obviously an incredible wit. And I
would think she built Lizzie on herself in some way.
(30:47):
But I'm now very curious about our author here, meager
to kind of read up on that.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
I know very interesting.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Are all stories that we consume in culture and media,
are they some kind of wish fulfillment. Would you say,
Beverly Hills nine oh two one oh?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Was that?
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Oh? Yeah? I mean, if you think about it, that
was the nineties. There was no Internet. Nobody knew what
life in Beverly Hills was like. But man, did it
sound good?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
And then when they got to see it on their
TV screens every week it looked good.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I know people that have moved from I hear this
all the time. I moved from Germany to Beverly Hills
so that I could have this life that I saw
on my TV. And I'm kind of like, oh, how'd
that work out for you? Like, I get a little nervous,
but because it's you know, it's it's manufactured, it's not real.
Everybody's lives are challenging, but I feel like anything that
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you really get lost in there is that sense of
either it's inspirational or it's aspirational.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah. I was watching Beverly Hills nine oh two and
oh from my living room and Atlanta, Georgia and just
being like, what is this world? Who are these people?
They really live like that?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yeah, it was a wild, eye opening experience for the
rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I think we're gonna take a short break, but we'll
be right back with more ear Say, okay, Jenny, we're
gonna do some rapid fire questions here and in a
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little segment we're calling plot twist. Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I'm ready?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
All right. At one point in the original novel, mister
Collins reads from Fordyce's sermons two young women. They gave
advice like be seen and not heard, don't be vain
but be very beautiful, don't make men feel bad or insecure.
You know, really good reasonable stuff. So he reads the
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sermons to missus Bennet and her daughters with nottonous solemnity.
If you're at a party and you're asked to share
a reading, what are you going to reach for? It
could be print, audio, video, whatever.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I feel like. My first instinct is like a roomy poem.
I would probably pull out something poetic but meaningful and insightful. Yep,
I like it, but certainly none of the same message
as that quote you just read.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
There's nothing like a great poem. My grandfather used to
recite these poems at big gatherings. Robert Servis was the poet.
There are these funny, sort of long shaggy dog stories.
There's one called the Cremation of Sam McGhee. There's just
sort of these old Yukon trail stories but they rhyme
like a Johnny Cash song, and I just loved it.
(33:48):
There was no there was no message. It was just entertaining.
But it's like my grandfather could just hold the room
in these awesome stories.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Oh sure, it's great.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
All right, We're going to play a clip from the
new Audible original Pride and Prejudice, and then I have
a question for you.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Okay, how can you account about having fallen in love
with me? How could you begin?
Speaker 5 (34:12):
I can't fix on the hour, or the spot or
the look I was in the middle before I knew
i'd begun. Oo.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
They're so relaxed. I see something. So it's such a
deep confidence in their delivery. I love it.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
They're saying, is so like meaningful.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Very profound. Yeah, it's very very profound. Okay, So was
there a moment that you knew you were in love
with your husband?
Speaker 4 (34:41):
For me, it's humor. It's someone that doesn't take things
too seriously because I can be quite serious sometimes, so
I need that counterbalance of someone who can de escalate
a situation, add in that self deprecation and just makes
me laugh every time, and then I kind of get
out of my like, you know, this is so serious mindset.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, amen, I mean everybody is. Everybody's so wonderful and
charming out of the gate. But once he realized, like, oh,
this is a permanent part of this person.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Like he said, I didn't know it until I was
in the middle of it. That's so yeah true. Because
when you're with somebody, you think you love them, but
then you learn more and more and more about them
and you can either grow to not love them so
much and realize this is not a good match, or
you can find all the little ways that connect you guys.
Like I know, watching my husband, who's nine years younger
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than me, step into this big world that I lived
and having three young step daughters to take on when
he had no children, no experience whatsoever. I saw him
like really trying to struggle through that and be the
best he could, but he didn't have any of the tools.
But now as we sort of settled into like ten
years now, seeing how that has evolved for him, his
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ability to love in such a deeper, more meaningful way,
not just me, but in our daughters. I fall more
in love with him just seeing how important he is
to them.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
It's just like you said before, having a partner willing
to grow with you, and what a growth he's gone
through to become a just instant dad. I have two girls,
but I've had the benefit of like watching watching them
become humans from the very beginning. That's a serious journey,
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it really is. And it's a testament to you too,
to be a partner that can cultivate that. There's another
reimagining of Pride and Prejudice called Pride and Prejudice and Zombies,
a two thousand and nine book and a twenty sixteen movie.
What character from Pride and Prejudice would you want with
you most and least during a zombie apocalypse?
Speaker 4 (37:01):
I'm so boring. I keep coming back to mister Darcy
obviously thinks it's a good answer.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Answer.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I just feel like he's gonna be able to handle things.
He's smart.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Can I give you a controversial answer?
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Wickham, you think you know because he's wiy Yeah, And
I feel like he's a little dangerous, like he'll he'll
take care of business.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
He know.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
It's how to survive something like that.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Darcy's going to help you stay like. He's going to
keep you grounded. He's going to keep you focused on
survival and the courage, and he's going to say all
the right things. I think he's a tough guy, but
I do feel like Wickham in The Zombie Apocalypse might
just be a better utility player.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Okay, I see it.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Uh okay. Miss Bingley says that to call a woman accomplished,
she needs to be skilled in singing, drawing, dancing, and languages,
plus a certain say qua. Darcy adds that she also
needs to be very well read. Kind of a long list.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Yeah, I have to sing, I have to dance.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, this is a this is a very I'm going
to you know, I'm going.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
To just go with the Genessee qua because I think
that's where it's at.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
That's your must have in a partner. Yeah, that's the
right they just need. So you don't need a partner
to be a good singer, drawer, dancer or no multiple languages,
uh just qua.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I kind of would be into somebody. Well, my husband's
not the best dancer, so it be really fun to
have a guy that could dance, but more importantly is
the Genessee Qua.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I think you're right because that is that's the most
open ended dancer. Yeah, right, like Jenna qua is just
is like something you like and it's gonna be different
for everybody. So yeah, they got to have that. Is
there anything that you would have? Are there any must
have a partner for you that you know apart from
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this list? Are there any must haves in a partner?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Honesty? It's just it's hard. It's hard to be honest
all the time.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
I also humor right at the top of my list, accountability.
I'm I there's a book that I read that has
made such a difference in my Life's called the Four Agreements.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Oh yeah, sure, the ancient Toll Tech Wisdom.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
That's the one. That's the one, and one of the
four agreements is be impeccable with your word. Yes, I
think there's something so important there. Whether you're the one
giving your word or you're the one receiving someone else's word,
it's important that you do what you say you're going
to do. You are who you say you are, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I agree. I read that book like thirty years ago.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
It's always a good reread.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, Yeah, and that one in particular, I think was
a kind of an eye opener because it's like, yeah,
of course you want to be honest when you navigate
the world, but the way it's explained and laid out,
it's really much more of an ethos, a way to
move through the world with a sense of truth and integrity.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
That's a good one. That's a juicy one.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
That's a juicy one.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I think that you nailed plot twist.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I did.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah. I think you got all the answers.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Right, I feel like I did pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Right. So, Jinny, what is a recommendation that you have
a book or an audiobook for our listeners?
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Gosh, I go back to those books that Jonathan Livingston Siegel.
I don't know if you ever read that book. That's
an old bit a goodie painted such a visual in
my mind, and there was some lasting lesson in that
about being who you are unapologetically and owning that.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
That sounds right up your alley, really, and that is
absolutely a classic and a great recommendation. Jonathan Livingston Seagull
by Richard Bach. Yes, great, Jenny Garth, it was so wonderful.
Have you here on earsay as our very first guest.
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What a blast. Thanks being a member of our club.
You're in the club, remember you got in.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I feel so special.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
We'll send you your little card. You can carry it
around with you. Okay, thank you, and don't forget listeners.
You can hear Jenny Garth on the iHeart podcast I
choose Me check it out now. I gotta tell you
deconstructing Pride and Prejudice with Jenny Garth a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Well, she seems like the absolute best and I mean
very cool for us to have her on our very
first episode of the show. I think we grew up
around the original Beverly nine two one zero era, so
big sort of nerding out over that for.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Us, absolutely, and it's very cool how she's sort of
taken an iconic line from her character and really made
it a message for living a better life. So to
our audience, thank you for tuning in to this first
episode of Earsay. The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club will
be recording these episodes right as these audiobooks are coming out.
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The next will be a conversation about season two of
the Audible original The Prophecy with series creator Randy McKinnon.
Cal you get to do that one.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yes, I do so. The Prophecy is an audio drama
starring Kerrie Washington, Laurence Fishburne, Daniel Daykim. The premise is
basically a question, what if the Bible wasn't made up
of stories that happened in the past, but prophecies that
were going to happen in the future. Yeah, it's pretty wild.
I've listened to it and it is incredible. The way
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the sound design works too. You really feel like, for example,
you're on a moving train with these folks, you're you know,
the stresses that you have are the ones that they have.
And then the whole question of reality versus what people
are experiencing was impactful. The whole thing was a wild listen,
so I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
I can't wait either, buddy. Now, if you had fun
with us today, consider following the show wherever you listen
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Speaker 2 (43:27):
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Speaker 1 (43:28):
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Speaker 2 (43:46):
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Speaker 1 (43:56):
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Speaker 1 (44:21):
Until next time, thanks for listening,
Hello, and welcome to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audio
book Club. It's the book club for audiobook lovers. I'm
ed Helms and I am cal Penn.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Each episode, Ed or I will tackle a different Audible
title with your favorite hosts and special guests from across
the iHeart Podcast world and beyond. They'll share what they heard,
what they loved, and what they can't stop thinking about.
You've heard the books, Now hear the ear.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Say earsay that title? Are we all getting it? Cal
break it down? Sure?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
If I need to get specific well pronounced earsay. It's
a play on hearsay, but unlike hearsay, you shouldn't ignore it.
You want to listen to the ear say it's the
lively chatter that follows a great audiobook.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I'm not sure I get it. Can you use it
in a sentence? Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Uh, let's see. I finished the book. Now I'm catching
up on the ear say see what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, Okay, that's far.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
This season, we're going to be getting into some really
fun titles that push the limits of the audiobook format.
So we'll dive into an oral history of one of
the funniest movies in the eighties. We'll do a supernatural
thriller co authored by m Night Shamalan.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We'll also dive into the full cast audio edition of
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. It stars Riz Ahmed,
Hugh Laurie, and Matthew mcfaddian.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
This is our audiobook club, and you're invited.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Cow. Do you have a formative audiobook memory?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I guess formative audio book memory. I really like listening
to audiobooks from authors who whose voices are kind of iconic.
There's something about getting that firsthand that I like. But
really the like, the more universal side of that. I
remember listening to somebody like a Mindy kayale Right is
(02:21):
so sweet and bubbly, and her whole persona is that
of like I'm everybody's friend. So when you listen to
a fun memoir that she's written, and it's vulnerable and
it's funny and.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Absolutely how about you?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, I totally agree you have a formative audiobook memory.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'm not sure thinking back when I really started to
get into audiobooks, but but I've been into them for
a long time and there's one experience that I had
that I that I just love. I still think back
on fondly. I was on a road trip by myself
on the open road in the Western United States for
(03:01):
thirteen hours straight and I had to get from A
to B, so I just was kind of like barreling
through as efficiently as I could, and I put in
this audio book The Overstory. The Overstory is this incredibly
rich and deep and beautiful novel, and it's also one
that is quite overwhelming with the just amount of it's dense.
(03:25):
There's so much narrative, there's so much sort of color
and experience to this story. But because I was able
to just dial in on the open road, I just
was riveted and it made this the entire day of
driving just like disappear. I was so immersed in this
book and I and to this day, I love it.
(03:46):
I think it's such an incredibly powerful and beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Book that's so cool, like a TimewARP for you.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, audiobooks are timewarps because they're so immersive.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I assume you narrated the audiobook commercial of your book, right, correct, Yes, Yes,
I did the same. I wrote this memoir called You
Can't Be Serious, and the subtext is about systemic change
in Hollywood and Washington. But really it's like a collection
of short stories that I just want people to be
able to laugh at, whether they're reading it by the
pool or kind of listening to it on the subway
(04:18):
around on a drive. And I remember when my editor
called after I turned in the manuscript and she said, so,
do you want to record and narrate your audiobook or
do you want to give it to somebody else? And
I was so confused by that, like why would the
amount of self deprecating jokes alone and the weird voices
that I do in my head that could so easily
(04:42):
like with the wrong voice, could just like a problematic situation.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, I wrote a book that's more sort of my
comedic take on some straight history stories. It's called SNAPO,
The Definitive Guide to Histories Greatest screw Ups, available wherever
you get your books, and the same thing. I was
so proud of it. I was like, I'm not I
don't want I don't want some other jerk just like
(05:09):
rattling this thing off.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
In your book, by the way, came from your podcast,
which is also called Snaffo.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yes, thank you for mentioning that. My my podcast Snaffoo
also about history's greatest grew ups. Season four is coming out,
and I'm having guests come on and I tell them
about a snafoo and we reflect on what these snaffoos
say about humanity, and spoiler alert, it's usually not good
(05:35):
things about humanity.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You also have a podcast I do, or I guess
technically I will. It is still a very big secret
for right now, but we will announce it on the
fourteenth of October. But yes, we do podcasts, we do
audio books, and we're maybe the perfect guys to host
a podcast about audiobooks.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, yes, And so for our first episode today, we
have the pleasure of stepping into the carriages and drawing
rooms of Regency England. Our guest and I listened to
the audible reimagining of a piece of the English literature canon,
Jane Austen's eighteen thirteen masterpiece, Pride and Prejudice. It came
(06:22):
out during the peak of the Romantic era, when people
like John Keats and Lord Byron were writing about passion
and mortality and the nature of beauty. But Pride and
Prejudice offered witty, sharp social commentary at a time when
the novel itself was seen as kind of frivolous. Austin
published it anonymously, which was common for women authors at
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the time. Writing novels was seen as an improper way
for women to spend their time. Pride and Prejudice was
a smash hit and went on to be instrumental in
shaping what the English novel would become. Austin's narrative style
is called free indirect speech. That's when the thoughts and
speech of any character can be written out in the
voice of the narrator, which is totally familiar to a
(07:06):
modern reader, but was groundbreaking when the book came out.
Cal Have you ever read Pride and Prejudice? I read
enough of it, but yes, I remember reading it a
quick refresher. Pride and Prejudice is the story of the
quick witted Elizabeth Bennett, who finds herself navigating complicated social
dynamics in a romantic back and forth with a man
(07:28):
she calls the quote proudest and most disagreeable man in
the world, the handsome and delusive and of course fabulously rich,
mister Dawesy. The themes in Pride and Prejudice are timeless.
We're talking self discovery class. Of course, both Pride and
Prejudice question, cal in your relationship, are you more than
(07:50):
mister Darcy or more the Lizzie Bennett?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Oh my gosh, I mean digging?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Am I digging too deep?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And no, you're not digging deep at all. It's one
of those things where I'm probably more of like the
Lizzie Bennett, but like aspirationally, I would love to be
a mister Darcy. I would love to have the the handsome,
you know, I'd love to be fabulously rich. So I'm
not trying to script the question, but maybe an amalgam
of both. Leaning towards the miss Bennett.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Well good, I mean it's a win win. They're both
remarkable characters. Lizzie just has this like irrepressible verb and
kind of sass and deep intelligence, and mister Darcy, we learn,
has like great integrity and of course a lot of money.
So if you're a combination of those two, you're you're
doing You're doing good. So this new Audible adaptation of
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Pride and Prejudice is less of an audio book and
more like a mini series for your ears, with immersive
sound design and original music. It stars Marisa Abella as
Elizabeth and Harris Dickinson as mister Darcy. It's faithful to
the original, but it's told from Elizabeth's perspective in a
(08:59):
highly suggestive way that kind of sizzles in the intimate
audio format. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I'm not concerned at all. I'm really trying to illustrate your.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Character and do you succeed?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Not at all.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I hear such different accounts of you. I can't make
any sense of it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Ooh, Steamy, Marissa, Abella, Marisa, Marisa, excuse me, Marisa, Yeah, amazing.
I just did a little arc on Industry. We did
not have scenes together, but even her voice is so
if you're a fan of that show, she is so
so good.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, this is giving some pretty saucy vibes. Yeah, I'm
not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Did they make you watch the like nineteen sixties version
of Romeo and Juliet in high school?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Oh, I have a vague memory of that.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I remember that they we watched that and it was like, okay,
all right, it did. I don't think it helped me
understand and the material any better. But then when I
was in college, the Leo DiCaprio, Claar Danes, Baz Luhrmann
version came out and that was like whoa. Yeah, you know.
The to illustrate the timelessness of literature, especially Shakespeare obviously
(10:15):
was like bonkers. Anyway, just listening to that clip, have
something like that brought to life by a voice you recognized,
was yeah, very riveting.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It's it's uh yeah, it's very compelling. Yeah, there's there's
more star power in this production too. By the way,
the legendary British thespian Bill Nye plays Elizabeth's father, mister Bennett,
and Glenn Close plays the domineering and downright kind of
scary lady Catherine de Bourg. Let's listen to another clip.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Tell me once and for all are you engaged to him?
I am not, And will you promise me never to
enter into such an engagement?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Can I promises of the kind?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Oh? That Lizzie just the backbone, she's so tough.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Oh, she will not make any promises.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I've worked with Glenn Close. She is one of the
most lovely human beings you'll ever know, But man, she
can play tough.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I would This goes back to the earlier question you
asked me about, like who I'm more like I would
love in modern times like today, if somebody on a
work call asks me to promise them something, I just
want to say that I will make no promises.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Of the kind.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I just want to use that line.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I will make no promises of the kind. Yeah, that's
you're right, that's a stinger.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Why don't you ask me if I'll be part of
this interview and I will say that I will make
no promises of the kind.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'm gonna get this party started with our first guest.
Thanks so much for helping me kick off this podcast.
We're gonna have a ton of fun and here we go.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, man, I am. I'm very excited. Enjoy, enjoy the convo.
I will hop off and leave you to the rest
of this one.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Well, our first guest on the Earsay podcast. You know
her as Kelly Taylor from the legendary Beverly Hills nine
oh two one zero. She starred in What I Like
About You. She also starred in the reality shows Jenny Garth,
A Little Bit Country and The Jenny Garth Project. Now
she is host of the iHeart podcast I Choose Me
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with Jenny Garth and just in case you haven't done
the math and figured it out already, I am of course,
talking about the legendary Jenny Garth. Jenny, welcome to Earsay.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
What's that you say?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Ere Earsay ear say, uh, yeah, it's just we think
it's a neat name. We're very proud of our cute name.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
But uh, it is good, it's catchy.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Ear.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, you're you're our first guest.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
What.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, it's just such a thrill to have you on
board right out of the gate.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I'm so happy to be here. And you know what,
we're talking about one of my favorite books slash movies
of all time. How did that happen? I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It's no accident because your podcast and as sort of
career has touched on so many of these themes, and
it feels like it just felt like such a good
fit out of the gate. But the fact that you
love it makes it even better.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yep, yep, true.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Well right out of the gate. What have you been
reading lately? Any books caught your fancy?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Oh my gosh, you know, I do a lot of
reading just in prep for my podcast when I have
guests on that have new books coming out, So that
has really taken over all of my reading opportunities lately.
I just read a book that's about to come out
by Jen Hatmaker called a Wake. It is so good.
I enjoyed Tina Knowle's really great book come out now
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that long ago. So I like a memoir laced with lessons.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I like that. I like that a lot. I've been
I'm much more of like a just a straight history nerd.
I've been reading Dead Wake, which is the story of
the last crossing of the Lusitania ship.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I trying to tell you that sounds interesting. I love history.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
It is cool. Yeah, I mean, this is a this
is like a cruise ship that got shot by German
U boats, and it's a wild story. It's totally true.
It's just straight history, but it's a it's a very
very cool account. Are you an audio book person?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I read audio books like when it first started happening,
and then I read audio books. That doesn't make sense.
I listened to audio books.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I'm making can say. I think you can say you
read an audio book.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I think I can get credit for it. Okay, yeah,
good good. So I hadn't really like gotten more into them,
and I was busy, been busy, But then I listened
to this one and I was really blown away at
how far they've come. Yeah, this is like a whole
new experience one that I like.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
This is almost more like a dramatic interpretation than just
like a straight audio book. It really is.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
It's like you're watching the movie, but you're not stuck
to watching the screen, and then you get to have
your imagination as would if you're reading it, but it
kind of fills in all the little details and all
the things that you would see when you're watching the movie,
which is so cool.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, it's arguably more immersive because it's giving you all
of the audio sort of spatial and environmental cues, but
it relies entirely on your imagination to conjure these images
and characters. The dawn of audio books dramatically increased my
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intake of books, really, yeah, because I have ADHD and
I struggle to kind of stay engaged. I have sort
of like my working memory is very scattered and sort
of broken, and so that's what reading requires, is to
sort of hold information and context in your head. Weirdly,
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when I'm listening to text, my working memory fires. It
just is like dialed in and I can listen at
extremely high speeds. Weirdly, I don't know why, But I
really enjoy just taking in the information almost just like
a funnel, like ah, just taking it as much as
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I can. So yeah, it makes reading faster and more
immersive for me. I just love audio books. Jenny, you
host the iHeart podcast I Choose Me First. Can you
explain the significance of that title?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Well, I am probably best known for Beverly Hills Onoto Ando,
which was a show that lasted the entire span of
the nineties decade, and at one point, my character Kelly
Taylor had this moment where she was in this love
triangle and she had to choose between two guys, the
two you know, like Brandon and Dylan. It was big,
everybody was watching it. It's kind of like what's happening
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right now with the young people. There's a show called
The Summary Turn Pretty where it's people are watching it
and we everybody has something to say about who she
should pick. Sure, so it's exactly the same beat as
we played in the nineties on nine Totoentoo. It's so
fun to watch it come back, but it's a really
interesting message. She chose herself instead of choosing one of
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the guys, So she said, I choose me, and I
didn't really understand the significance of that at that age.
You know, in my life, I was probably nineteen twenty,
and I feel like now, looking back at things, you
kind of reach that age where you take stock of
your life, where you've been, what felt good and in alignment,
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and where you felt like you had accomplishments. It kind
of revisiting those places and I thought, you know what
that is something that message, I know, really helped a
lot of young women who were watching the show in
real time to identify the fact that they could choose
themselves in any given moment. Of course, so many women
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said I didn't really know that I could choose myself
until I saw Kelly Taylor do it, and so I've
I kind of thought, wow, that's really meaningful, and I
think that's a message that needs to continue forward. So
I was kind of lost. I didn't know what I
wanted to do with my career, and you know, things
are weird now in the business. So I just said,
I'm going to focus on spreading something that's important to me.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I love that it's like put on your oxygen mask first,
right when the plane's going down. What's really interesting about
it is as an idea I choose me. It might
ring at first like self absorbed or narcissistic even, but
it truly is the way I hear you talk about it,
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and as I've listened to your podcast, it's truly a
generous disposition. It's a way of presenting to the world
in a way where you know your own value, right,
and when you do that, you are elevating the people
around you as well. Definitely, all right, let's get into
Pride and Prejudice a little bit here, Yes, but let's
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sort of segue from nine o two one zero into
Pride and Prejudice. So Kelly had that famous moment of
choosing between Dylan and Brandon. Do you think Kelly would
have fallen for someone like mister Darcy or would she
have gone for a Wickham first?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Without a doubt in my mind, she would have fallen
in love with mister Darcy.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Oh that's great, all right.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I mean I did, and you know we're pretty similar, so.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Good, good, Yeah, for sure, I think that says the
right thing about Kelly and Jenny. So Bride and Prejudice
it's considered an important novel, right, but what makes it
a fun novel. What is it about the story that's
fun to you?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
It's the romance it's always going to come back to
that really draws people in. And you get so invested
in the characters and you see them making mistakes, and
you see them learning from those mistakes and figuring things
out along the way.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
And I just love period pieces, the costumes and the
horses and the carriages, and the just the beautiful way
everyone carries themselves. It's so different than it is now
that I just find it really refreshing to look back
and remember what things used to be like.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, I think you're right on the money. It's such
a classic romantic tale, which is always riveting. I also
think there's something just for us as Americans. There's something
so alluring about that subtle British wit. Yeah, that kind
of like dry sarcasm, but there's a sweetness underneath it.
You can tell these characters have affection with each other,
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even though they kind of bite at each other.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, it's fun to listen to their banter for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
And I think Austin's writing is it's fun and accessible,
but it's also sort of making commentary. And she has
a wonderful warmth towards all of these characters. It's a
special novel.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Did you read it in high school?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I think I pretended to read it in high school
and probably just read cliff notes.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So this new Audible production is a full cast audio adaptation,
complete with star performances, sound design, and original music. What
stood out to you in this production while listening?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Well, I went into it not knowing what I was
going to be hearing, like this new way of listening
to a book. But I was drawn in immediately by
the sound design. I felt as if I was in
the room room with these characters and I was in
their conversation, and there is something so inclusive about that.
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So for me, it was really about the sound design,
just the footsteps and the doors opening and closing. It's
like it's real. It's like it's really happening.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I agree, it's totally immersive. There's a beautiful score woven
in by Morgan Kibbie. There's a subtle bit of sound
design that I thought was so effective where Lizzie's voice
is given a kind of this like reaver some effect
anyway that makes it clear that you're in her head,
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in her inner monologue. You're going in and out of
Lizzie's head in a way that for the listener this
might sound crazy, but it's actually totally intuitive. When you
listen to it, it makes perfect sense. What role would
you want to play?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I mean in this story? Are you really going to
ask me that? Lizzie Luy, Yeah, I mean great, She's
just so smart and so independent and strong. I just
love HER's she says it like it is.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
You would be an incredible Lizzie.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Oh god, thanks, such a coment.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
This is not a trick question, no wrong answer. What
role would I play?
Speaker 4 (23:21):
You know what? I can see you as mister Darcy.
You got a little Colin first.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Okay, that's really sweet. I appreciate that. But are you
sure I'm not I'm not the dad. I mean I'm
not mister Bennett here.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
I mean with the right you know, wardrobe, hair and makeup.
I think it's you.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Pride and Prejudice, as you mentioned before, has been made
into multiple TV series, movies, reimaginings and so on. Do
you have a favorite version?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Oh yeah, BBC original, Yeah, Colin.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
First, Jennifer e Lee. Yep, there's something about that version
that just captured Jane Austen's tone acting too.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I think Colin just the way you hated him and
loved him at the same time, and his stature like
does everything about it. I was head over heels for him. Delicious,
It's delicious.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yes, of course, yes. So what is it about those
Brits they're so beguiling? What do you think it is
about pride and prejudice that has given it such incredible
staying power for more than two hundred years.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Well, I don't think it hurts that they keep reimagining it. Sure,
you know, I think they've done you know, like you
said before, it goes from BBC to Hallmark to Disney Channel,
like there's always going to be their interpretation for a
different age group audience.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Amen.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I think what's made it last it's just it's a timeless.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Story, Yeah, exactly, Like.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
That's at its heart, it's a timeless story.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I mean, like humans were just suckers for a great
love story. But this one has this really wonderful trope
of the people that are destined to be together but
hate each other at first, Right, they start off with
all the friction. Yeah, that's satisfying. They when they realize.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Yeah, that moonlighting energy, like.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, moonlighting, Oh perfect.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
They hate each other, but you know they love each
other and you're just waiting on the edge of your
seat for them to finally get together.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Marriage is obviously a major theme in Pride and Prejudice.
Norms around marriage have changed profoundly in the last two
hundred and twenty five years.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Thank God.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
What are some things that this book says about marriage
that might still be true today?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Well, I think in Lizzie's case, she wanted to find
somebody that could keep up with her intellectually, and that
the spice that she you know, finding someone that can
sort of spar with you when you want to spar
and roll with you when you want to roll, like
she wanted that then, and I think, I know I
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still want that as a woman in this day and age.
I don't want to be bored. I don't want to
be a comfortable kept woman. I think, you know, there
are all different kinds of women and they all have
different needs. Back then, it was about finding a husband
because that's how you survived.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, And I think to what you're speaking to about,
you know, being able to spar with somebody without it
threatening the integrity of the relationship is really about having
an underlying respect for one another, and a deep sort
of abiding respect that transcends the petty moments or the
hard moments of conflict. What I love about pride and
(26:52):
prejudice is that really their love story. In my view,
they realize they love each other when they built respect
for one another, and that's what's ultimately gratifying. And it's
a little bit in defiance of some of the norms
of the day. All Right, I asked my co host
cal this question before. Who in your marriage is more
(27:16):
of the Darcy and who is more of the Elizabeth
or are you another character altogether?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Oh, I feel like hmmm, honestly, it's kind of weird.
I never really thought about it, but I think my
husband's morally mister Darcy. He's got that like dry quick
wit and walks to his own drum. It has that
(27:44):
air of independence and almost like a little bit of
arrogance sometimes, which must be appealing to me because I'm
liking it here again with him.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Pride. Yeah, the pride, pride and prejudice exactly.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
So I like that in a man, and that confidence
that's great, And yeah, i'd probably be more like Lizzie
just because she doesn't just go with the way she's
told to go. She wants to have her own path.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I would say my wife is definitely Lizzie. I'm maybe
more of a Bingley in what way. I just like
the I'm the fun guy. That's my main contribution is
just being like, agreeable and fun and hopefully stable.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Those are all great qualities, so I.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Like to think. So I like to think I bring
something to the table.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Of course, at the end of the story, despite all
odds being against it, Elizabeth and Darcy end up engaged.
I can't say Darcy just like I have to say
Darcy Saws. They surprise each other and they surprise themselves,
and through that new knowledge, their love becomes possible. We
have a clip.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
You showed me how insufficient all of my pretensions were
to please woman worthy of being pleased.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Oh it's the birds for me right that listener. That
is a little taste of the sound design just all
through this thing that is so so wonderful. Do you
think there's an element of wish fulfillment here, Like a
really smart young woman meets a really smart, handsome, wealthy man.
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Austin Jane Austen started writing this at age twenty, so
perhaps there's something aspirational in this story. What do you
think for sure?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
I think, I mean, speaking for myself, Yeah, you want
that romance and you want that challenge and intrigue. If
anything's too easy, it feels like it's not worth it somehow.
And I feel like both of the characters in this
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book really have their own personal jarnies to go through
until they find that mutual respect. Looking past the stereotypes
and past what all the other women that he had
to choose from were, and then learning that she, like
he said, she's worthy of his love. That's saying a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, and knowing that that Jane Austen started writing this
at age twenty, I'm eager to kind of do more
research on Austin and what kind of person was she
who was such a keen observer of human behavior and
the human condition and obviously an incredible wit. And I
would think she built Lizzie on herself in some way.
(30:47):
But I'm now very curious about our author here, meager
to kind of read up on that.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
I know very interesting.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Are all stories that we consume in culture and media,
are they some kind of wish fulfillment. Would you say,
Beverly Hills nine oh two one oh?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Was that?
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Oh? Yeah? I mean, if you think about it, that
was the nineties. There was no Internet. Nobody knew what
life in Beverly Hills was like. But man, did it
sound good?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
And then when they got to see it on their
TV screens every week it looked good.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I know people that have moved from I hear this
all the time. I moved from Germany to Beverly Hills
so that I could have this life that I saw
on my TV. And I'm kind of like, oh, how'd
that work out for you? Like, I get a little nervous,
but because it's you know, it's it's manufactured, it's not real.
Everybody's lives are challenging, but I feel like anything that
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you really get lost in there is that sense of
either it's inspirational or it's aspirational.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah. I was watching Beverly Hills nine oh two and
oh from my living room and Atlanta, Georgia and just
being like, what is this world? Who are these people?
They really live like that?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yeah, it was a wild, eye opening experience for the
rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I think we're gonna take a short break, but we'll
be right back with more ear Say, okay, Jenny, we're
gonna do some rapid fire questions here and in a
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little segment we're calling plot twist. Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I'm ready?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
All right. At one point in the original novel, mister
Collins reads from Fordyce's sermons two young women. They gave
advice like be seen and not heard, don't be vain
but be very beautiful, don't make men feel bad or insecure.
You know, really good reasonable stuff. So he reads the
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sermons to missus Bennet and her daughters with nottonous solemnity.
If you're at a party and you're asked to share
a reading, what are you going to reach for? It
could be print, audio, video, whatever.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I feel like. My first instinct is like a roomy poem.
I would probably pull out something poetic but meaningful and insightful. Yep,
I like it, but certainly none of the same message
as that quote you just read.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
There's nothing like a great poem. My grandfather used to
recite these poems at big gatherings. Robert Servis was the poet.
There are these funny, sort of long shaggy dog stories.
There's one called the Cremation of Sam McGhee. There's just
sort of these old Yukon trail stories but they rhyme
like a Johnny Cash song, and I just loved it.
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There was no there was no message. It was just entertaining.
But it's like my grandfather could just hold the room
in these awesome stories.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Oh sure, it's great.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
All right, We're going to play a clip from the
new Audible original Pride and Prejudice, and then I have
a question for you.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Okay, how can you account about having fallen in love
with me? How could you begin?
Speaker 5 (34:12):
I can't fix on the hour, or the spot or
the look I was in the middle before I knew
i'd begun. Oo.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
They're so relaxed. I see something. So it's such a
deep confidence in their delivery. I love it.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
They're saying, is so like meaningful.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Very profound. Yeah, it's very very profound. Okay, So was
there a moment that you knew you were in love
with your husband?
Speaker 4 (34:41):
For me, it's humor. It's someone that doesn't take things
too seriously because I can be quite serious sometimes, so
I need that counterbalance of someone who can de escalate
a situation, add in that self deprecation and just makes
me laugh every time, and then I kind of get
out of my like, you know, this is so serious mindset.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, amen, I mean everybody is. Everybody's so wonderful and
charming out of the gate. But once he realized, like, oh,
this is a permanent part of this person.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Like he said, I didn't know it until I was
in the middle of it. That's so yeah true. Because
when you're with somebody, you think you love them, but
then you learn more and more and more about them
and you can either grow to not love them so
much and realize this is not a good match, or
you can find all the little ways that connect you guys.
Like I know, watching my husband, who's nine years younger
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than me, step into this big world that I lived
and having three young step daughters to take on when
he had no children, no experience whatsoever. I saw him
like really trying to struggle through that and be the
best he could, but he didn't have any of the tools.
But now as we sort of settled into like ten
years now, seeing how that has evolved for him, his
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ability to love in such a deeper, more meaningful way,
not just me, but in our daughters. I fall more
in love with him just seeing how important he is
to them.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
It's just like you said before, having a partner willing
to grow with you, and what a growth he's gone
through to become a just instant dad. I have two girls,
but I've had the benefit of like watching watching them
become humans from the very beginning. That's a serious journey,
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it really is. And it's a testament to you too,
to be a partner that can cultivate that. There's another
reimagining of Pride and Prejudice called Pride and Prejudice and Zombies,
a two thousand and nine book and a twenty sixteen movie.
What character from Pride and Prejudice would you want with
you most and least during a zombie apocalypse?
Speaker 4 (37:01):
I'm so boring. I keep coming back to mister Darcy
obviously thinks it's a good answer.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Answer.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I just feel like he's gonna be able to handle things.
He's smart.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Can I give you a controversial answer?
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Wickham, you think you know because he's wiy Yeah, And
I feel like he's a little dangerous, like he'll he'll
take care of business.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
He know.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
It's how to survive something like that.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Darcy's going to help you stay like. He's going to
keep you grounded. He's going to keep you focused on
survival and the courage, and he's going to say all
the right things. I think he's a tough guy, but
I do feel like Wickham in The Zombie Apocalypse might
just be a better utility player.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Okay, I see it.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Uh okay. Miss Bingley says that to call a woman accomplished,
she needs to be skilled in singing, drawing, dancing, and languages,
plus a certain say qua. Darcy adds that she also
needs to be very well read. Kind of a long list.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Yeah, I have to sing, I have to dance.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, this is a this is a very I'm going
to you know, I'm going.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
To just go with the Genessee qua because I think
that's where it's at.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
That's your must have in a partner. Yeah, that's the
right they just need. So you don't need a partner
to be a good singer, drawer, dancer or no multiple languages,
uh just qua.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I kind of would be into somebody. Well, my husband's
not the best dancer, so it be really fun to
have a guy that could dance, but more importantly is
the Genessee Qua.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I think you're right because that is that's the most
open ended dancer. Yeah, right, like Jenna qua is just
is like something you like and it's gonna be different
for everybody. So yeah, they got to have that. Is
there anything that you would have? Are there any must
have a partner for you that you know apart from
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this list? Are there any must haves in a partner?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Honesty? It's just it's hard. It's hard to be honest
all the time.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
I also humor right at the top of my list, accountability.
I'm I there's a book that I read that has
made such a difference in my Life's called the Four Agreements.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Oh yeah, sure, the ancient Toll Tech Wisdom.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
That's the one. That's the one, and one of the
four agreements is be impeccable with your word. Yes, I
think there's something so important there. Whether you're the one
giving your word or you're the one receiving someone else's word,
it's important that you do what you say you're going
to do. You are who you say you are, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I agree. I read that book like thirty years ago.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
It's always a good reread.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, Yeah, and that one in particular, I think was
a kind of an eye opener because it's like, yeah,
of course you want to be honest when you navigate
the world, but the way it's explained and laid out,
it's really much more of an ethos, a way to
move through the world with a sense of truth and integrity.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
That's a good one. That's a juicy one.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
That's a juicy one.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I think that you nailed plot twist.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I did.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah. I think you got all the answers.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Right, I feel like I did pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Right. So, Jinny, what is a recommendation that you have
a book or an audiobook for our listeners?
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Gosh, I go back to those books that Jonathan Livingston Siegel.
I don't know if you ever read that book. That's
an old bit a goodie painted such a visual in
my mind, and there was some lasting lesson in that
about being who you are unapologetically and owning that.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
That sounds right up your alley, really, and that is
absolutely a classic and a great recommendation. Jonathan Livingston Seagull
by Richard Bach. Yes, great, Jenny Garth, it was so wonderful.
Have you here on earsay as our very first guest.
(41:23):
What a blast. Thanks being a member of our club.
You're in the club, remember you got in.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I feel so special.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
We'll send you your little card. You can carry it
around with you. Okay, thank you, and don't forget listeners.
You can hear Jenny Garth on the iHeart podcast I
choose Me check it out now. I gotta tell you
deconstructing Pride and Prejudice with Jenny Garth a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Well, she seems like the absolute best and I mean
very cool for us to have her on our very
first episode of the show. I think we grew up
around the original Beverly nine two one zero era, so
big sort of nerding out over that for.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Us, absolutely, and it's very cool how she's sort of
taken an iconic line from her character and really made
it a message for living a better life. So to
our audience, thank you for tuning in to this first
episode of Earsay. The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club will
be recording these episodes right as these audiobooks are coming out.
(42:25):
The next will be a conversation about season two of
the Audible original The Prophecy with series creator Randy McKinnon.
Cal you get to do that one.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yes, I do so. The Prophecy is an audio drama
starring Kerrie Washington, Laurence Fishburne, Daniel Daykim. The premise is
basically a question, what if the Bible wasn't made up
of stories that happened in the past, but prophecies that
were going to happen in the future. Yeah, it's pretty wild.
I've listened to it and it is incredible. The way
(42:57):
the sound design works too. You really feel like, for example,
you're on a moving train with these folks, you're you know,
the stresses that you have are the ones that they have.
And then the whole question of reality versus what people
are experiencing was impactful. The whole thing was a wild listen,
so I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
I can't wait either, buddy. Now, if you had fun
with us today, consider following the show wherever you listen
and share it with your friends, your nephew's nieces, pen pals, whomever.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
And your kel pen pals.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Sure you your calp and pals. Yeah, that's a that
is a you're my calpen pals. Yeah, I love it, hearsay.
The Audible and iHeart Audio Book Club is a production
of Iheart's Ruby Studio.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
We're your hosts Ed Helms and Kelpen. Our executive producer
is Matt Schultz, with theme music and post production by
Marcus Pagala for Ruby Studio.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Our managing EP is Matt Romano, our EP of post
Production is Matt Stillo, and our production coordinator is Abby Aguilar.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
And of course a big thank you to our friends
at Audible. Don't forget. You can listen to what we're
listening to on the Audible app or at audible dot com.
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Speaker 1 (44:21):
Until next time, thanks for listening,
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