April 28, 2022 • 33 mins
Kid Ink's mixtape hustle, ear for the underground and mainstream, and close connection to a growing fan base helped him achieve an abundance of success. He has remained prolific as an indie artist with a busy release schedule of singles and Alive (2021), his fourth studio album. In this special edition episode, we also feature an additional special guest appearance, his wife, successful entrepreneur Asiah Collins owner of Smooth Skin Lounge. This couple shares the benefits of teamwork and why iron sharpens iron. This very real, up close, and vulnerable episode gives you an inside peek of an artist/entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, I'm Colley Wit. Welcome to Eating while Broken. Today
we have some pretty amazing guests. We have Kidding and
his beautiful, lovely, amazing wife Asia, and today what are
we making? Assie is going to leave this whole episode
and teach us how to make pizza toast? Today's pizza toast. Typically,
(00:21):
if we're talking about eating while broke in the house,
you might not have pizza sauce, but you might have
spaghetti sauce that works as well. You'll usually have bread,
hopefully you know the basics. Cheese. We have some turkey pepperoni,
which I know isn't typical, but we don't eat pork,
and some jalapeno peppers and those are pickled pickled, But
(00:45):
which is interesting? I mean the sliced ones you get
are pickled, like on top of your nachos. Oh okay,
j I thought I had to look it's pickled instead
of fresh. Remind you this. This whole purpose is because
obviously I can't order a pizza, so the next best
(01:05):
this is trying to find whatever ingredients you have at
home to try to make that piece of makes sense.
So first you wash your hands, then you're gonna dress
up your pizza, everyone grabs like, I'll grab one. So
when was the last time you guys can remember actually
eating a meal like this? She was mentioned earlier. We
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still have to eat like this occasionally on the road
because on the road, out out there, out the country,
sometimes you have to, you know what I'm saying, get
just as creative based on what you have available to you.
But you find those things and then you mix it
up and whip it up. A couple of noodles is
(01:48):
one of the you know what I'm saying, still regular
things on tour, the ramen any type of noodle work.
Everyone's humbled on sore when you're on a road trip
or you're on the tour bus and your kid dry
the year in the middle of nowhere, whatever that gas
station is that you gotta stop at. Whatever they have
is what you've got, unless you know what I'm saying,
(02:08):
you stocked up at the grocery store, which is something
we learned to do when we would get to cities
that would have the nice grocery store. Like if you're
on tour in Europe and you get to you know,
somewhere like the UK where you think it might be
a lot more familiar imports than maybe Germany. You stock
up over there, and then when I get to Germany,
hopefully I still got a lot of that stuff left over.
(02:29):
A whole plan. I feel like this looks real official
it does. I feel like I'm treating it way better
than I did when I was younger. Obviously I was
probably a little less. Can we add the llapenos after
we cook? Absolutely? Can you can put it on top.
I'm in a bake mine in. Will you pass me
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the little cheese with you being a chef Awesia. Yeah.
Do you feel like you had a lot of fun
eating while broke? Um? Yes, you know, we did have
fun eating while broke. We got really creative, Like we
would go we would take the e BT and go
(03:10):
to the Baiata and get you know, a bunch of
produced for cheap and like you know, cheap shrimp like
the little bay shrimps and imitation crab and make ours
to chat for like all day long. You know, when
I was a school by the time I was out
of school and I was living on my home for real,
(03:31):
it was probably a little bit more fast food. So
my fast food go to wasn't McDonald's. I do eat
McDonald's from time to time, but it was El Boil
Loco and she was I would live off these BRC burritos.
There are dollars. I would live the mean and they
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used to have They don't have them anymore. That's why
I don't eat Eloil Local anymore. They don't have the
barbecue black beans they used to have, which were like crack.
You would get this BRC with barbecue black beads, throw
your sausa and cilantro in there for a dollar. I
got a whole burrito. I missed out because I didn't
know it was they were living that good at Elpot Local.
(04:16):
I was still like getting the burgers and just adding
sauces to the to the regular double cheeseburger that didn't
come with it, Like yo, can I get extra pickles
and big max sauce and maybe whatever was only ten cents?
Maybe extra your that you could do it your way
and they didn't charge you extra. No, I would just
get all of it and still take stuff off. Let
(04:37):
me get to let this on instrumatos, all that stuff
just my burger look crazy, and then be like I
don't even want that. So you can see the different
worman as is in ours right away looks Brian looks beautiful,
So I literally copied Brian so like I didn't look
like I'm going to put them directly on the rack. Okay,
when did you guys realize that you arrived? Like when
(05:00):
was that moment where you realized, Okay, I'm no longer
living like this. Today we're gonna eat I guess lobster
or whatever your favorite expensive meal would be. M M.
I guess in that sense, like when would I have
felt like that was? I mean, because you have those
(05:22):
small moments that you think you made it, because there's
always you think you made it, like this is it,
and then something might not have been all the way there.
It just wasn't that time. And then timing, you know
what I'm saying, I switched it up. I guess when
I felt like there was no maybe turning back or
the you know what I'm saying, face was high, that
(05:43):
everything was moving in the right direction. Would probably be
like my first tour because I got to actually see
the money ahead. So like working in the meeting, what
I'm saying, sometimes you're just working, you know what I'm saying.
It was points where I was doing. I was probably
on my third mixtape, and I wasn't like I was
a celebrity system and you know what I'm saying, was
(06:05):
occasionally booking a show We're here every couple of months
or something like that for something small, just to get
the show off and do it for Brandon. But I
probably had you know, like three mixtapes in where people
probably thought I made it. Now, I was still at
the crib broke section a e B T, living with moms,
doing the same thing as everybody else, see what I'm saying,
not really living any different, but I still had to
(06:26):
keep up a energy and image and lifestyle, so I
had to you know what I'm saying. Luckily at that
time too, I was getting a lot of I was
making just you know what I'm saying. Connection with a
lot of different people was helping sponsor because I wasn't
out being able to go shopping and have stuff for
music videos and stuff, so it would be people giving
me clothes, and like, you know what I'm saying, the
shout out back in the day was like young and
reckless and villains and all these different people that I
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just knew at the time who were making clothes giving
me all these brand new things to where I was
keeping up, but at the same time I didn't really
have I was still going to the crib, you know
what I'm saying, with a couple of dollars in my pocket,
so you know what I'm saying. Those are somethings when
everybody else thought I made it, and I could have
felt like I made it in a sense of like
in the game musically and branding myself and getting somewhere.
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But when I saw that first tour and it was
like two months and I get how much your show
is this? Man? I'm sure you ready? So I get
to just live every day? What do they call it?
What do they call that daily allowance? Right right? Were
you thinking like I'm gonna save this per dam and
(07:31):
the check? At that point it was like, you know
then I was living more so living day by day
where it was like, yeah, whatever I got today, it
could go to zero because I gotta show tomorrow. That
was a moment of feeling like you know what I'm saying,
not having that care and feeling like I made it
because it was like we had no responsibilities to I mean,
we went from going we went from me completely broken
(07:52):
and having nothing to look after all this money is
pouring in. Do you feel like when you first got
the money, where are you guys? Let's go shopping by
the nice car? Really? But I don't think it was you. Yeah,
I think it comes as like the beach in the beginning.
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They knew my name at Sacks. Yes, but I didn't
like to run into the story and like not first
check the price tag, like if that makes sense. So
I wasn't in there like Louis don't care how much
it costs. I was still making a decision like this
one's five. You still do that? But that that wasn't
like I didn't change in the sense where I was
(08:35):
just like blow it, but gradually was still we would
blow it in other senses of like what do you
want to do? Whatever you want to do. As you're
in it, you're not conscious to it can slow down maybe,
so then when it slows down, then you have to
sit back and go all right, so this is about
(08:55):
to come in. How can we make sure that we
don't have to wait until that comes next time? Oh? Yeah,
you get to like manage a cash fall better because
you could see it ahead of time. You spend looking.
It's just natural to spend the money that's on the
way ready mentally because you see it's on the way,
especially if you didn't have it before, you're like, I
(09:17):
worked this hard, might as well. Yeah, I still you know,
it's crazy. I never people always saying that I never
treated myself to something that I worked so hard, Like
if that makes sense, like you never just gone and
did that that you want to do because you felt
like because in the first three or four years, I
think I just worked world word work. There wasn't a
(09:38):
moment where somebody was like, did you should sit down
and enjoy it? I didn't. I don't think the first
three years I actually enjoyed having everything. It was still
like all right, we still got to go get some
more keep. Yeah, it's more worker, It's good. Yeah. One
of the biggest challenges I think is momentum. You know,
(10:02):
like you try to go into it without having false
expectations and then you catch momentum, you know, for like
the met spot, for say Smooth Skin Lounge and um,
just trying to keep that momentum going because it's still
a new business. So you see so much money flowing in,
but you have employees you have overhead, you have rent,
(10:26):
you just have all these things. So, you know, just
trying to keep pushing towards it being big enough to
where you can really feel like, Okay, I did make it,
and you don't think when you think about artists, you
don't really think. And the more I interview people or
the more entertainers I meet. At first, when I used
to look at entertainers, you just think of them as
(10:47):
this is the face. You don't realize that they're entrepreneurs
and they're they're making all these decisions on a daily basis.
It's not just writing a song or producing a record.
It's emails look crazy, So times I have to have
moments and have someone and also it's like a business
partner that I trust and my wife luckily, so it's
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like I have two business partners because I can trust
that she'll understand, you know, what I'm saying certain things
when I'm locked in on the music. Just because even
just recently, you know, wrapping up this album Alive, I
was locked into the studio and it was so many
other music business and things that I was getting emails
for that my business partner, which I trust him to
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make certain decisions. But if it's like might lean a
little bit more towards a little some branding or something
personal that I might be like, YEO, why did you
do that? I felt like that was corny. This is
then that he reached out to my wife and I
could I can trust her to get that done because
you have to. I can't think about that and do
the creative music part and think that I'm going to
give this a hundred percent and not look back on
(11:51):
it later and be like, dang, I missed that, or
I wanted to take that out. I should have turned
that down because I was trying to do that fast
so I could answer this question, or just my mind
wasn't So, you guys, it's definitely a you have to
be a businessman. But you see it the music all
the time. When people start getting real big at the business,
then the music starts falling back a little bit once
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you get a little bit two hands on. I mean
we can't get we can't get an album out of Rihanna.
I mean you're seeing and you start making big money
other places. That's the exactly she's giving like, once you
start doing this and it's like she's not made a
quarter billion dollars and I didn't have to stress out.
I'm busy this, Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't
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think she's going to go back to uh she eventually
she will. She's busy. I mean you can't. Yeah, you
can't get mad at it. But you can see how
you know some people, and you see how some people
are you know, can sell millions and millions of records,
go diamond and do all these things, but can't handle
the business or can't come out with a clothing line.
I can't because they don't have that. They're not everyone's not,
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for real, some people can do it. For this, it's
just different everyone. I wish everyone could run like that
because it's hard to keep up with all these different
things and you just got to find your flowing your balance.
Now I'm curious, and this is going to go to
both of you guys. So Asia, you're, you know, entrepreneur
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behind the scenes mainly correct and then Brian or kidding,
you're in front of the scenes. So do you feel
like one has it easier than the other, because and
this is a serious question, and this is just playing
devil's advocate, not trying to start a fight. Out a topic.
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I think. I don't think that one is necessarily easier
than the other because because I see some of the
stuff that you know, they're just here the conversations, some
stuff they have to go through. Even with today too,
with how big social media is and how important it
(14:03):
is to your brand, smooth Skins Instagram pages just as
important as my Instagram page as far as keeping it up,
making sure that the brand is still just as the
followers and the video content. Like I see her doing
just as much video content for her their Instagram as
it is for mine, and I'd be like Danny to
catch up. He has to teach me how to make
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my little video. It's I feel like it's definitely nowadays,
it's still more of a it's still more of a
trade where you still gotta be a cool business just
as much as you gotta be a cool entertainer. It
feels more like you guys, iron sharpens iron. There's a
little bit of friendly like competitiveness, but not really because
you guys share your insider secrets, right, You're like, well,
(14:47):
I got this this post and this this is what
I did too, So it's almost like on the tech side,
you know, techie's kind of share their codes and then
they build up. Who do you think has cried the
most on the business side, Who do you think have
you actually teared up from business? Business is stressful tears, Yeah,
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when I was first coming up in the game, because
you feel like it's not even tears, you know, sadness,
it's tears of like real stress and anger, like you
know why this ain't working and why that's not happening
the way that I wanted it to happen at the time.
It's more so the time you start getting fed up
with time, see, like this isn't doing what I wanted
to do, and I've been putting so much work and
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effort into this, and you start getting stressed out, and
then you gotta You know what I'm saying, I thought
about that I'm someone who who can easily, when I
was younger, easily fight and cry out of anger. So
you know what I'm saying, it will naturally, I'll naturally
tear up just out of anger. So if I'm in
a fight like when I was younger, don't let the
crypt don't let the tears fool you. Yeah, don't let
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the tears fool you. For sure, and I know, I say,
you just took a bite. But the first of all,
this is amazing, So now I will I will be
so good really yourself. Um, I wanted to say, honest, yeah,
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when was the last time you cried over your business?
And what was it in detail? Mm hmm um, probably
a week ago. But honestly, I'm just very this is
like my baby, and this is my first business that
is actually like going. I've tried to do other businesses
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in the past, um, and they didn't work out, you know,
and a lot of it was just immaturity, you know,
being an experience, and so now it just it gets
frustrating as a mom to the pool, having to pull
away from being with your kids or being here at
your business, you know what I mean. So I grabbed
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all the time. I'm always frustrated. And then me and
my partner are like brother and sisters, so we go
at it and we do. I can't tell you guys
how much I appreciate having you both come out and
uh feed us this gourmet dish. I've eaten some pretty
red dishes on this show, but I was really excited
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to be able to lay out all these options. Everybody
in production was asking what we are making that has
this many ingredients? Do you feel like you've arrived or
do you feel like that pivotal point hasn't arrived yet?
I feel like there are I feel like I'm always becoming,
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first of all, like I'm still becoming. You know, I'm
working on smooth skin and that's going. But we're still beginning.
You know. I still would like to do more branding
with cooking. Um, so it changes, like I think I
had superficial ones in the beginning, like you know, my
first batons he bought me in Paris. You know, like
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then you know, you know there's things like you know,
when we bought our first house, or I got to
be featured in Vogue Pregnant, you know, like I've never
let's be clear, I've never signed up with any modeling
agency ever, so that for me, know, anything, any work
I've done modeling or acting, I was doing myself. I
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never joined with an agency. So that was still really
big for me to have that moment. Yeah, my mom
Vogue dot com. So that was nice, But you know,
those things still I just feel like that's not it
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for me. You know, there's still more to come do
you think that's because the bar is high, or is
it because is playing Devil's advocate? Are you not taking
that moment? And like how Kiddink was saying that he
and I think that's what you were saying, that you
never really got a chance to take it in, but
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no one told you to take it in. Keep you
know what I'm saying, pushing the bar because if you
look at smooth skin, it's open, it's out. You can
show like all these huge milestones. But you're like, well,
I still you know, And I get it because I
feel like most entrepreneurs feel that way. But I'm wondering,
like what the root is. Is it because you're not
taking it in in the moment or is it because
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you keep moving the needle forward? I think from the
outside looking in to cut off, I think they definitely
in their business. I've had moments where I've seen them
stress out or want to accomplish something, and I've been
and I go, but you guys are killing it right now,
killing it. It's cool. But I don't you know what
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I'm saying. It's not a bad I guess you know
what I'm saying. Mindset to be in, but it's definitely
moments where I'd be like you know what, or a
business partner like yo, it's chill out stuff stressing, Like
the numbers can be different from yesterday. Do you see
what they looked like all week? Like what I'm saying,
you and think about like the times we're in you
know what I'm saying, Those type of things that you
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have to come into play. But when you want just
to it to be so big or do more, you
know what I'm saying, it's I can't really help that.
I'm striving for generational wealth. I think once you feel
like that's why I have to worry. Yeah, I don't
have to worry. It's one thing kids don't have to worry.
And then I could feel like their kids might not
have to worry. Is I guess more of a mom?
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Look what I did. Yeah, you guys are looking for
that sleep money that we don't have to get up
and chase it everyday. Money I don't actually yeah, yeah,
I still work for mine. I don't know. I'm still
working from mine too. I don't know what it is.
You know. Well, No, I'm not gonna say that I'm
not blessed to have certain situations or you know what
I'm saying, the right publishing sit worships where I do
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have you know what I'm saying, things that come in
that I go, oh forgot about? You know what I'm saying,
right things doing things for movies, commercials, whatever the case
may be. There are there are things that I have
set in stone that will forever collect money. So I
am definitely blessed and appreciate that for sure. But you know,
and you know I j C no, It's still a
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level that I would like to accomplish mentally. So yeah,
my bar might be set super high than most. But
at the same time, you know, I still won't say
that at the end of the day, when it's all over,
that I won't feel like I was successful. But right
now I still have to not be stagnant with that.
I gotta want to push for more or I think
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it will just go backwards. How many years total have
you been in the game prior to everybody knowing who
you are? I know you started as a producer, So
I probably started making music for fun when I was fifteen, like,
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thinking like I could make music for other people, Like
I think I knew how to make music and play
account was the first time you got paid for the
first time I got paid for music was probably like
a I think it was like a reproduction for uh,
(22:30):
it was a reproduction for Alice Cooper record that Sean
Kingston was redoing for some promo. Like it wasn't like
a single or anything, but it was like something that
I think was special for Alice Cooper anniversary and he
was redoing this song Cameron with the name of the
song was I was mad young and then you know
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probably pay me, like but how did you get it?
Just how did I get it? I think it was
more so you know, still when I was sixteen, I
was always moving around seeing who the you know what
I'm saying, who the new rappers were, always moving my
beasts around, always staying just I think in the mix.
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And it's not it's not that it's not hard, but
you know, in l a can know where to be
at the right time, or know how to meet certain
people or be like yo, listen to this and this
and that, or you might have a relative that's like, yo,
here's an opportunity. So I think it was just I
can't remember how the opportunity came, but it was just
somebody said, hey, you got one of these, and they
you know, knew they could get it for me for cheap,
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so they were like, I might have to pay this
guy five thousand. I can pay this guy four dollars
or if that was leaping what I got. And he's
cool with that. So you know what I'm saying, They
got that done and I can't remember who the business
was with it. But then after that, you know, that
opens up the doors. So then I meet different people
or you know, at the time, because that's us. My
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mom made it moments. That was my mom made a
moment for sure, and then go back to the to
the hood, and then it's like, all right, we're back
to regular. And then I get the record that I
made for Nipsey Bullets. Ain't got no names. And then
that you know, he gets the deal off that that
blows up another Mama made a moment, made my first
check for five thousand dollars. Again, it took three months,
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but you can't do nothing about that. So imagine, you know,
all right, and that's not anyone from his team's problem.
That's the labels, you know what I'm saying, Like I said,
labels work, So he was with Sony, I think at
the time, and they're not like thinking about me, like, yeah,
we gotta make sure we get him the bag I
think I had already. They flew me out to New York.
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I hung out, I was making all kind of bees,
doing this and this and that, and then they got
to a point where I was in New York like, yo, man,
you get paid because I'm running out of money. So
you know, my mom only gave me like two dollars
for like two weeks trying to figure out what we're
doing here. And then I ended up from that moment
leaving New York, going back home and back to regular
lifestyle again. So then like that was another almost made
(25:01):
a moment, and then you know what I'm saying, but
that opened up the doors for me, you know what
I'm saying, going to the studio with Nipsey and then
meeting young Bird Hitmaker now and then you know that
opened the doors for me me dj ill Will, which
opened the doors for me dropping my first mixtape, which
then trickled down to where we are now. So I think,
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you know, it's different moments where I was like I
made it and then it turned around. But then I
see how that turned into something else, always becoming. So, now,
was there ever a point where you felt like you
had to choose between the nine five? Now? I know
your mom, so I know she's all about, you know,
fight for your dreams and go after what you want.
I don't think she has a settlement plan ever for
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any of you guys. But was there ever a moment
where you thought prior to the four hundred, because I'm
sure that was like, That's what I'm doing forever, right?
So yeah, So I think my my first like real
job that I went out and got was retail. It
was easy to go to the mall, to a bunch
of applications to who hired you. I worked at the
(26:04):
Gap and then I I always knew I wanted to
do music, so I always had this mindset like, all right,
when you work in nine five, though, make sure it's
something that's not going to hurt your future. You know
what I'm saying. When they bring it back up and
they're like, yo, why were you doing that though? So
you know what I'm saying, Retail with something I was
always in a fashion. I got the easy job at
(26:24):
the Gap. It wasn't really my vibe as far as
you know what I'm saying, just the work that they
had us doing, I felt, you know, just like I
was just folting T shirts all day and wasn't really
selling any clothes or any clothes that I was into.
So then I moved from there and got a job
in Northroom because I knew some smarty who worked in
North rooms. They hooked me up. And this is all
prior to your passion for music. Yeah, well know, I
(26:46):
always made music. So it was like when I was fifteen,
before I had a job, I always made music. I
think my mom, like every not like every boy. The
normal l A kid thing from the too is you're
gonna do some extra work and do some acting, so
you know, just throw me in to the acting. We
get an Asian, they have you do a couple of
things here, and you know, and then whatever and then
some people making some people don't, I guess, But for me, uh,
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you know, I did the acting thing for a minute,
but then I start getting tattoos when I was sixteen,
and then that kind of took away from me trying
to be able to do any Disney any vibes that
was gonna be like your music has played in Disney movies,
and you know, I see how there were certain things
that not for sure I have I don't know something
(27:31):
kids movies, kids Disney single yet there, but I think,
you know, the there's certain things that I started to
realize came from me just doing what I loved and
what I had a passion for, and other stuff was
just start to come just from being good at you
know what I'm saying this, and then they might open
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up doors for other opportunities for me to get into that.
I've always wanted to go to X games my old life.
I got to perform at X games. I always wanted
to go. I always wanted to go to a wrestling match.
My first wrestling match. I got to perform at WrestleMania.
Like these are things that I probably never thought I
was ever going to be able to do unless I
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did certain things or met certain people, or I didn't
think like raps gonna get me in WrestleMania. But if
if I was younger, I probably would have been even
more into it, like what raps can give me WrestleMania?
But I didn't. I didn't know. But when I saw
how it all worked out, I was like, Yo, that
was pretty cool, Like that was something that happened right,
Like it was definitely manifested, and it was something that
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again I just didn't I wanted to do, but didn't
know that that was going to bring me to getting
to that place. So you know, and I have a
WrestleMania chair in my house that I didn't have to
you know what I'm saying, hustle for on eBay the
examply Now before we close out, I'm just curious, since
we are on the topic and manifesting came out, what
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do you think are like three secrets to success? Um
going from being broke in your living room around naysayers
or or or whomever to where you are at now?
What what's consistent the most in your everyday life? Would
you say? And towards the goal of success, there's not
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a ceiling you have, Like everyone puts some type of
expectation of when they need to feel successful by or
how much money they have to be to be successful.
There's no ceiling. Once you accomplish one, you're going to
go onto the next, or if this one fails, you're
going to go on to the next. There's no ceiling.
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Keep going, keep doing it, even with musicians. Maybe you
won't be the next rapper, but there are musicians making
a living off of music in hundreds of different fields.
You know, Like yeah, that I and I think that
the thing that you realize most of course, like speaking
things into existence, speaking things out of existence. It's important. Mean,
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some people can you know, you're definitely always supposed to
have those moments where you can vent and get things out,
but you always gotta have that confidence there. And I
think you know that confidence is what you see a
lot of people strive from where you go, how did
that person do that with no talent because they walked
in the building. Like when they say, when you're walk
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in the build, no one's gonna ask you where if
you're supposed to be there. If you got the right confidence,
I'm going to steal that. You gotta be that when
you walk in the building and be exactly you know
what I'm saying, what it is, and not have any
I guess you know, insecurities on that behalf and people
look at you the exact same where you know, even
with smith skin, when i feel like I'm going to
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like pull my hair out literally and just run away
from it all, I get dressed up really nice. When
I go on the office the next day. You know,
it just makes me feel clothing. It makes me feel like,
I ca baby, I'm here. I could be at home
in the home studio, and I can tell that if
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I was at home, locked in and sweats for a week,
that just that one Friday, even if I wasn't going awhere,
that I got mad, dressed up through all my chains
on and went to the backyard to the studio. The
energy is going to be different. It's gonna be a
little bit more of feeling myself when I'm in there
instead of just working. I think it's a little rap
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and more of it's more of an energy. Or you
look at it's like, look what I got, Look where
It makes sense. I never even thought of that, yea,
to be honest, but it does make sense. Like, you know,
when you look good, you feel good, and your confidence
is that you feel like, hey, I guess I learned
that the hard way, and she already had it on point.
When you're in the gym. I didn't used to care
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about what I was wearing in the gym. I would
just go to the gym. But once I started getting
matched up, like I was like, are you matching shoes too?
And then I would get messed up. I could understand,
like I look in the mirror, like we're gonna work
out today, Yeah, we work Looking at the shoes is blue.
They're gonna see me running And it's a whole different
mentality than if you're just going there in the mid
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feast joint you like, I'm working on my wife beater today,
and that is what it is. Well, thank you guys
so much for coming out, especially on your birthday. So
today we're gonna close out. I got you a couple
of different cake options so we can all gain weight,
so you guys can compete in the work original. I
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don't know if it's vanilla in there, best vanilla chocolate hair. Yeah, yo, man,
appreciate you guys for chilling with us. You know what
it is eating while broke. Yeah, this amazing piece of toast.
And I hope y'all learned something new today. Yes, with
kidding and Assia, we had awesome pizza toast today. Thank
you for more eating while broke. From My Heart Radio
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meaning while broken, H
Hi, I'm Colley Wit. Welcome to Eating while Broken. Today
we have some pretty amazing guests. We have Kidding and
his beautiful, lovely, amazing wife Asia, and today what are
we making? Assie is going to leave this whole episode
and teach us how to make pizza toast? Today's pizza toast. Typically,
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if we're talking about eating while broke in the house,
you might not have pizza sauce, but you might have
spaghetti sauce that works as well. You'll usually have bread,
hopefully you know the basics. Cheese. We have some turkey pepperoni,
which I know isn't typical, but we don't eat pork,
and some jalapeno peppers and those are pickled pickled, But
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which is interesting? I mean the sliced ones you get
are pickled, like on top of your nachos. Oh okay,
j I thought I had to look it's pickled instead
of fresh. Remind you this. This whole purpose is because
obviously I can't order a pizza, so the next best
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this is trying to find whatever ingredients you have at
home to try to make that piece of makes sense.
So first you wash your hands, then you're gonna dress
up your pizza, everyone grabs like, I'll grab one. So
when was the last time you guys can remember actually
eating a meal like this? She was mentioned earlier. We
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still have to eat like this occasionally on the road
because on the road, out out there, out the country,
sometimes you have to, you know what I'm saying, get
just as creative based on what you have available to you.
But you find those things and then you mix it
up and whip it up. A couple of noodles is
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one of the you know what I'm saying, still regular
things on tour, the ramen any type of noodle work.
Everyone's humbled on sore when you're on a road trip
or you're on the tour bus and your kid dry
the year in the middle of nowhere, whatever that gas
station is that you gotta stop at. Whatever they have
is what you've got, unless you know what I'm saying,
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you stocked up at the grocery store, which is something
we learned to do when we would get to cities
that would have the nice grocery store. Like if you're
on tour in Europe and you get to you know,
somewhere like the UK where you think it might be
a lot more familiar imports than maybe Germany. You stock
up over there, and then when I get to Germany,
hopefully I still got a lot of that stuff left over.
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A whole plan. I feel like this looks real official
it does. I feel like I'm treating it way better
than I did when I was younger. Obviously I was
probably a little less. Can we add the llapenos after
we cook? Absolutely? Can you can put it on top.
I'm in a bake mine in. Will you pass me
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the little cheese with you being a chef Awesia. Yeah.
Do you feel like you had a lot of fun
eating while broke? Um? Yes, you know, we did have
fun eating while broke. We got really creative, Like we
would go we would take the e BT and go
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to the Baiata and get you know, a bunch of
produced for cheap and like you know, cheap shrimp like
the little bay shrimps and imitation crab and make ours
to chat for like all day long. You know, when
I was a school by the time I was out
of school and I was living on my home for real,
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it was probably a little bit more fast food. So
my fast food go to wasn't McDonald's. I do eat
McDonald's from time to time, but it was El Boil
Loco and she was I would live off these BRC burritos.
There are dollars. I would live the mean and they
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used to have They don't have them anymore. That's why
I don't eat Eloil Local anymore. They don't have the
barbecue black beans they used to have, which were like crack.
You would get this BRC with barbecue black beads, throw
your sausa and cilantro in there for a dollar. I
got a whole burrito. I missed out because I didn't
know it was they were living that good at Elpot Local.
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I was still like getting the burgers and just adding
sauces to the to the regular double cheeseburger that didn't
come with it, Like yo, can I get extra pickles
and big max sauce and maybe whatever was only ten cents?
Maybe extra your that you could do it your way
and they didn't charge you extra. No, I would just
get all of it and still take stuff off. Let
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me get to let this on instrumatos, all that stuff
just my burger look crazy, and then be like I
don't even want that. So you can see the different
worman as is in ours right away looks Brian looks beautiful,
So I literally copied Brian so like I didn't look
like I'm going to put them directly on the rack. Okay,
when did you guys realize that you arrived? Like when
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was that moment where you realized, Okay, I'm no longer
living like this. Today we're gonna eat I guess lobster
or whatever your favorite expensive meal would be. M M.
I guess in that sense, like when would I have
felt like that was? I mean, because you have those
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small moments that you think you made it, because there's
always you think you made it, like this is it,
and then something might not have been all the way there.
It just wasn't that time. And then timing, you know
what I'm saying, I switched it up. I guess when
I felt like there was no maybe turning back or
the you know what I'm saying, face was high, that
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everything was moving in the right direction. Would probably be
like my first tour because I got to actually see
the money ahead. So like working in the meeting, what
I'm saying, sometimes you're just working, you know what I'm saying.
It was points where I was doing. I was probably
on my third mixtape, and I wasn't like I was
a celebrity system and you know what I'm saying, was
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occasionally booking a show We're here every couple of months
or something like that for something small, just to get
the show off and do it for Brandon. But I
probably had you know, like three mixtapes in where people
probably thought I made it. Now, I was still at
the crib broke section a e B T, living with moms,
doing the same thing as everybody else, see what I'm saying,
not really living any different, but I still had to
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keep up a energy and image and lifestyle, so I
had to you know what I'm saying. Luckily at that
time too, I was getting a lot of I was
making just you know what I'm saying. Connection with a
lot of different people was helping sponsor because I wasn't
out being able to go shopping and have stuff for
music videos and stuff, so it would be people giving
me clothes, and like, you know what I'm saying, the
shout out back in the day was like young and
reckless and villains and all these different people that I
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just knew at the time who were making clothes giving
me all these brand new things to where I was
keeping up, but at the same time I didn't really
have I was still going to the crib, you know
what I'm saying, with a couple of dollars in my pocket,
so you know what I'm saying. Those are somethings when
everybody else thought I made it, and I could have
felt like I made it in a sense of like
in the game musically and branding myself and getting somewhere.
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But when I saw that first tour and it was
like two months and I get how much your show
is this? Man? I'm sure you ready? So I get
to just live every day? What do they call it?
What do they call that daily allowance? Right right? Were
you thinking like I'm gonna save this per dam and
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the check? At that point it was like, you know
then I was living more so living day by day
where it was like, yeah, whatever I got today, it
could go to zero because I gotta show tomorrow. That
was a moment of feeling like you know what I'm saying,
not having that care and feeling like I made it
because it was like we had no responsibilities to I mean,
we went from going we went from me completely broken
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and having nothing to look after all this money is
pouring in. Do you feel like when you first got
the money, where are you guys? Let's go shopping by
the nice car? Really? But I don't think it was you. Yeah,
I think it comes as like the beach in the beginning.
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They knew my name at Sacks. Yes, but I didn't
like to run into the story and like not first
check the price tag, like if that makes sense. So
I wasn't in there like Louis don't care how much
it costs. I was still making a decision like this
one's five. You still do that? But that that wasn't
like I didn't change in the sense where I was
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just like blow it, but gradually was still we would
blow it in other senses of like what do you
want to do? Whatever you want to do. As you're
in it, you're not conscious to it can slow down maybe,
so then when it slows down, then you have to
sit back and go all right, so this is about
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to come in. How can we make sure that we
don't have to wait until that comes next time? Oh? Yeah,
you get to like manage a cash fall better because
you could see it ahead of time. You spend looking.
It's just natural to spend the money that's on the
way ready mentally because you see it's on the way,
especially if you didn't have it before, you're like, I
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worked this hard, might as well. Yeah, I still you know,
it's crazy. I never people always saying that I never
treated myself to something that I worked so hard, Like
if that makes sense, like you never just gone and
did that that you want to do because you felt
like because in the first three or four years, I
think I just worked world word work. There wasn't a
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moment where somebody was like, did you should sit down
and enjoy it? I didn't. I don't think the first
three years I actually enjoyed having everything. It was still
like all right, we still got to go get some
more keep. Yeah, it's more worker, It's good. Yeah. One
of the biggest challenges I think is momentum. You know,
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like you try to go into it without having false
expectations and then you catch momentum, you know, for like
the met spot, for say Smooth Skin Lounge and um,
just trying to keep that momentum going because it's still
a new business. So you see so much money flowing in,
but you have employees you have overhead, you have rent,
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you just have all these things. So, you know, just
trying to keep pushing towards it being big enough to
where you can really feel like, Okay, I did make it,
and you don't think when you think about artists, you
don't really think. And the more I interview people or
the more entertainers I meet. At first, when I used
to look at entertainers, you just think of them as
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this is the face. You don't realize that they're entrepreneurs
and they're they're making all these decisions on a daily basis.
It's not just writing a song or producing a record.
It's emails look crazy, So times I have to have
moments and have someone and also it's like a business
partner that I trust and my wife luckily, so it's
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like I have two business partners because I can trust
that she'll understand, you know, what I'm saying certain things
when I'm locked in on the music. Just because even
just recently, you know, wrapping up this album Alive, I
was locked into the studio and it was so many
other music business and things that I was getting emails
for that my business partner, which I trust him to
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make certain decisions. But if it's like might lean a
little bit more towards a little some branding or something
personal that I might be like, YEO, why did you
do that? I felt like that was corny. This is
then that he reached out to my wife and I
could I can trust her to get that done because
you have to. I can't think about that and do
the creative music part and think that I'm going to
give this a hundred percent and not look back on
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it later and be like, dang, I missed that, or
I wanted to take that out. I should have turned
that down because I was trying to do that fast
so I could answer this question, or just my mind
wasn't So, you guys, it's definitely a you have to
be a businessman. But you see it the music all
the time. When people start getting real big at the business,
then the music starts falling back a little bit once
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you get a little bit two hands on. I mean
we can't get we can't get an album out of Rihanna.
I mean you're seeing and you start making big money
other places. That's the exactly she's giving like, once you
start doing this and it's like she's not made a
quarter billion dollars and I didn't have to stress out.
I'm busy this, Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't
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think she's going to go back to uh she eventually
she will. She's busy. I mean you can't. Yeah, you
can't get mad at it. But you can see how
you know some people, and you see how some people
are you know, can sell millions and millions of records,
go diamond and do all these things, but can't handle
the business or can't come out with a clothing line.
I can't because they don't have that. They're not everyone's not,
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for real, some people can do it. For this, it's
just different everyone. I wish everyone could run like that
because it's hard to keep up with all these different
things and you just got to find your flowing your balance.
Now I'm curious, and this is going to go to
both of you guys. So Asia, you're, you know, entrepreneur
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behind the scenes mainly correct and then Brian or kidding,
you're in front of the scenes. So do you feel
like one has it easier than the other, because and
this is a serious question, and this is just playing
devil's advocate, not trying to start a fight. Out a topic.
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I think. I don't think that one is necessarily easier
than the other because because I see some of the
stuff that you know, they're just here the conversations, some
stuff they have to go through. Even with today too,
with how big social media is and how important it
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is to your brand, smooth Skins Instagram pages just as
important as my Instagram page as far as keeping it up,
making sure that the brand is still just as the
followers and the video content. Like I see her doing
just as much video content for her their Instagram as
it is for mine, and I'd be like Danny to
catch up. He has to teach me how to make
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my little video. It's I feel like it's definitely nowadays,
it's still more of a it's still more of a
trade where you still gotta be a cool business just
as much as you gotta be a cool entertainer. It
feels more like you guys, iron sharpens iron. There's a
little bit of friendly like competitiveness, but not really because
you guys share your insider secrets, right, You're like, well,
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I got this this post and this this is what
I did too, So it's almost like on the tech side,
you know, techie's kind of share their codes and then
they build up. Who do you think has cried the
most on the business side, Who do you think have
you actually teared up from business? Business is stressful tears, Yeah,
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when I was first coming up in the game, because
you feel like it's not even tears, you know, sadness,
it's tears of like real stress and anger, like you
know why this ain't working and why that's not happening
the way that I wanted it to happen at the time.
It's more so the time you start getting fed up
with time, see, like this isn't doing what I wanted
to do, and I've been putting so much work and
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effort into this, and you start getting stressed out, and
then you gotta You know what I'm saying, I thought
about that I'm someone who who can easily, when I
was younger, easily fight and cry out of anger. So
you know what I'm saying, it will naturally, I'll naturally
tear up just out of anger. So if I'm in
a fight like when I was younger, don't let the
crypt don't let the tears fool you. Yeah, don't let
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the tears fool you. For sure, and I know, I say,
you just took a bite. But the first of all,
this is amazing, So now I will I will be
so good really yourself. Um, I wanted to say, honest, yeah,
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when was the last time you cried over your business?
And what was it in detail? Mm hmm um, probably
a week ago. But honestly, I'm just very this is
like my baby, and this is my first business that
is actually like going. I've tried to do other businesses
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in the past, um, and they didn't work out, you know,
and a lot of it was just immaturity, you know,
being an experience, and so now it just it gets
frustrating as a mom to the pool, having to pull
away from being with your kids or being here at
your business, you know what I mean. So I grabbed
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all the time. I'm always frustrated. And then me and
my partner are like brother and sisters, so we go
at it and we do. I can't tell you guys
how much I appreciate having you both come out and
uh feed us this gourmet dish. I've eaten some pretty
red dishes on this show, but I was really excited
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to be able to lay out all these options. Everybody
in production was asking what we are making that has
this many ingredients? Do you feel like you've arrived or
do you feel like that pivotal point hasn't arrived yet?
I feel like there are I feel like I'm always becoming,
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first of all, like I'm still becoming. You know, I'm
working on smooth skin and that's going. But we're still beginning.
You know. I still would like to do more branding
with cooking. Um, so it changes, like I think I
had superficial ones in the beginning, like you know, my
first batons he bought me in Paris. You know, like
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then you know, you know there's things like you know,
when we bought our first house, or I got to
be featured in Vogue Pregnant, you know, like I've never
let's be clear, I've never signed up with any modeling
agency ever, so that for me, know, anything, any work
I've done modeling or acting, I was doing myself. I
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never joined with an agency. So that was still really
big for me to have that moment. Yeah, my mom
Vogue dot com. So that was nice, But you know,
those things still I just feel like that's not it
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for me. You know, there's still more to come do
you think that's because the bar is high, or is
it because is playing Devil's advocate? Are you not taking
that moment? And like how Kiddink was saying that he
and I think that's what you were saying, that you
never really got a chance to take it in, but
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no one told you to take it in. Keep you
know what I'm saying, pushing the bar because if you
look at smooth skin, it's open, it's out. You can
show like all these huge milestones. But you're like, well,
I still you know, And I get it because I
feel like most entrepreneurs feel that way. But I'm wondering,
like what the root is. Is it because you're not
taking it in in the moment or is it because
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you keep moving the needle forward? I think from the
outside looking in to cut off, I think they definitely
in their business. I've had moments where I've seen them
stress out or want to accomplish something, and I've been
and I go, but you guys are killing it right now,
killing it. It's cool. But I don't you know what
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I'm saying. It's not a bad I guess you know
what I'm saying. Mindset to be in, but it's definitely
moments where I'd be like you know what, or a
business partner like yo, it's chill out stuff stressing, Like
the numbers can be different from yesterday. Do you see
what they looked like all week? Like what I'm saying,
you and think about like the times we're in you
know what I'm saying, Those type of things that you
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have to come into play. But when you want just
to it to be so big or do more, you
know what I'm saying, it's I can't really help that.
I'm striving for generational wealth. I think once you feel
like that's why I have to worry. Yeah, I don't
have to worry. It's one thing kids don't have to worry.
And then I could feel like their kids might not
have to worry. Is I guess more of a mom?
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Look what I did. Yeah, you guys are looking for
that sleep money that we don't have to get up
and chase it everyday. Money I don't actually yeah, yeah,
I still work for mine. I don't know. I'm still
working from mine too. I don't know what it is.
You know. Well, No, I'm not gonna say that I'm
not blessed to have certain situations or you know what
I'm saying, the right publishing sit worships where I do
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have you know what I'm saying, things that come in
that I go, oh forgot about? You know what I'm saying,
right things doing things for movies, commercials, whatever the case
may be. There are there are things that I have
set in stone that will forever collect money. So I
am definitely blessed and appreciate that for sure. But you know,
and you know I j C no, It's still a
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level that I would like to accomplish mentally. So yeah,
my bar might be set super high than most. But
at the same time, you know, I still won't say
that at the end of the day, when it's all over,
that I won't feel like I was successful. But right
now I still have to not be stagnant with that.
I gotta want to push for more or I think
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it will just go backwards. How many years total have
you been in the game prior to everybody knowing who
you are? I know you started as a producer, So
I probably started making music for fun when I was fifteen, like,
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thinking like I could make music for other people, Like
I think I knew how to make music and play
account was the first time you got paid for the
first time I got paid for music was probably like
a I think it was like a reproduction for uh,
(22:30):
it was a reproduction for Alice Cooper record that Sean
Kingston was redoing for some promo. Like it wasn't like
a single or anything, but it was like something that
I think was special for Alice Cooper anniversary and he
was redoing this song Cameron with the name of the
song was I was mad young and then you know
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probably pay me, like but how did you get it?
Just how did I get it? I think it was
more so you know, still when I was sixteen, I
was always moving around seeing who the you know what
I'm saying, who the new rappers were, always moving my
beasts around, always staying just I think in the mix.
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And it's not it's not that it's not hard, but
you know, in l a can know where to be
at the right time, or know how to meet certain
people or be like yo, listen to this and this
and that, or you might have a relative that's like, yo,
here's an opportunity. So I think it was just I
can't remember how the opportunity came, but it was just
somebody said, hey, you got one of these, and they
you know, knew they could get it for me for cheap,
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so they were like, I might have to pay this
guy five thousand. I can pay this guy four dollars
or if that was leaping what I got. And he's
cool with that. So you know what I'm saying, They
got that done and I can't remember who the business
was with it. But then after that, you know, that
opens up the doors. So then I meet different people
or you know, at the time, because that's us. My
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mom made it moments. That was my mom made a
moment for sure, and then go back to the to
the hood, and then it's like, all right, we're back
to regular. And then I get the record that I
made for Nipsey Bullets. Ain't got no names. And then
that you know, he gets the deal off that that
blows up another Mama made a moment, made my first
check for five thousand dollars. Again, it took three months,
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but you can't do nothing about that. So imagine, you know,
all right, and that's not anyone from his team's problem.
That's the labels, you know what I'm saying, Like I said,
labels work, So he was with Sony, I think at
the time, and they're not like thinking about me, like, yeah,
we gotta make sure we get him the bag I
think I had already. They flew me out to New York.
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I hung out, I was making all kind of bees,
doing this and this and that, and then they got
to a point where I was in New York like, yo, man,
you get paid because I'm running out of money. So
you know, my mom only gave me like two dollars
for like two weeks trying to figure out what we're
doing here. And then I ended up from that moment
leaving New York, going back home and back to regular
lifestyle again. So then like that was another almost made
(25:01):
a moment, and then you know what I'm saying, but
that opened up the doors for me, you know what
I'm saying, going to the studio with Nipsey and then
meeting young Bird Hitmaker now and then you know that
opened the doors for me me dj ill Will, which
opened the doors for me dropping my first mixtape, which
then trickled down to where we are now. So I think,
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you know, it's different moments where I was like I
made it and then it turned around. But then I
see how that turned into something else, always becoming. So, now,
was there ever a point where you felt like you
had to choose between the nine five? Now? I know
your mom, so I know she's all about, you know,
fight for your dreams and go after what you want.
I don't think she has a settlement plan ever for
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any of you guys. But was there ever a moment
where you thought prior to the four hundred, because I'm
sure that was like, That's what I'm doing forever, right?
So yeah, So I think my my first like real
job that I went out and got was retail. It
was easy to go to the mall, to a bunch
of applications to who hired you. I worked at the
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Gap and then I I always knew I wanted to
do music, so I always had this mindset like, all right,
when you work in nine five, though, make sure it's
something that's not going to hurt your future. You know
what I'm saying. When they bring it back up and
they're like, yo, why were you doing that though? So
you know what I'm saying, Retail with something I was
always in a fashion. I got the easy job at
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the Gap. It wasn't really my vibe as far as
you know what I'm saying, just the work that they
had us doing, I felt, you know, just like I
was just folting T shirts all day and wasn't really
selling any clothes or any clothes that I was into.
So then I moved from there and got a job
in Northroom because I knew some smarty who worked in
North rooms. They hooked me up. And this is all
prior to your passion for music. Yeah, well know, I
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always made music. So it was like when I was fifteen,
before I had a job, I always made music. I
think my mom, like every not like every boy. The
normal l A kid thing from the too is you're
gonna do some extra work and do some acting, so
you know, just throw me in to the acting. We
get an Asian, they have you do a couple of
things here, and you know, and then whatever and then
some people making some people don't, I guess, But for me, uh,
(27:08):
you know, I did the acting thing for a minute,
but then I start getting tattoos when I was sixteen,
and then that kind of took away from me trying
to be able to do any Disney any vibes that
was gonna be like your music has played in Disney movies,
and you know, I see how there were certain things
that not for sure I have I don't know something
(27:31):
kids movies, kids Disney single yet there, but I think,
you know, the there's certain things that I started to
realize came from me just doing what I loved and
what I had a passion for, and other stuff was
just start to come just from being good at you
know what I'm saying this, and then they might open
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up doors for other opportunities for me to get into that.
I've always wanted to go to X games my old life.
I got to perform at X games. I always wanted
to go. I always wanted to go to a wrestling match.
My first wrestling match. I got to perform at WrestleMania.
Like these are things that I probably never thought I
was ever going to be able to do unless I
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did certain things or met certain people, or I didn't
think like raps gonna get me in WrestleMania. But if
if I was younger, I probably would have been even
more into it, like what raps can give me WrestleMania?
But I didn't. I didn't know. But when I saw
how it all worked out, I was like, Yo, that
was pretty cool, Like that was something that happened right,
Like it was definitely manifested, and it was something that
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again I just didn't I wanted to do, but didn't
know that that was going to bring me to getting
to that place. So you know, and I have a
WrestleMania chair in my house that I didn't have to
you know what I'm saying, hustle for on eBay the
examply Now before we close out, I'm just curious, since
we are on the topic and manifesting came out, what
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do you think are like three secrets to success? Um
going from being broke in your living room around naysayers
or or or whomever to where you are at now?
What what's consistent the most in your everyday life? Would
you say? And towards the goal of success, there's not
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a ceiling you have, Like everyone puts some type of
expectation of when they need to feel successful by or
how much money they have to be to be successful.
There's no ceiling. Once you accomplish one, you're going to
go onto the next, or if this one fails, you're
going to go on to the next. There's no ceiling.
(29:37):
Keep going, keep doing it, even with musicians. Maybe you
won't be the next rapper, but there are musicians making
a living off of music in hundreds of different fields.
You know, Like yeah, that I and I think that
the thing that you realize most of course, like speaking
things into existence, speaking things out of existence. It's important. Mean,
(30:00):
some people can you know, you're definitely always supposed to
have those moments where you can vent and get things out,
but you always gotta have that confidence there. And I
think you know that confidence is what you see a
lot of people strive from where you go, how did
that person do that with no talent because they walked
in the building. Like when they say, when you're walk
(30:22):
in the build, no one's gonna ask you where if
you're supposed to be there. If you got the right confidence,
I'm going to steal that. You gotta be that when
you walk in the building and be exactly you know
what I'm saying, what it is, and not have any
I guess you know, insecurities on that behalf and people
look at you the exact same where you know, even
with smith skin, when i feel like I'm going to
(30:45):
like pull my hair out literally and just run away
from it all, I get dressed up really nice. When
I go on the office the next day. You know,
it just makes me feel clothing. It makes me feel like,
I ca baby, I'm here. I could be at home
in the home studio, and I can tell that if
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I was at home, locked in and sweats for a week,
that just that one Friday, even if I wasn't going awhere,
that I got mad, dressed up through all my chains
on and went to the backyard to the studio. The
energy is going to be different. It's gonna be a
little bit more of feeling myself when I'm in there
instead of just working. I think it's a little rap
(31:28):
and more of it's more of an energy. Or you
look at it's like, look what I got, Look where
It makes sense. I never even thought of that, yea,
to be honest, but it does make sense. Like, you know,
when you look good, you feel good, and your confidence
is that you feel like, hey, I guess I learned
that the hard way, and she already had it on point.
When you're in the gym. I didn't used to care
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about what I was wearing in the gym. I would
just go to the gym. But once I started getting
matched up, like I was like, are you matching shoes too?
And then I would get messed up. I could understand,
like I look in the mirror, like we're gonna work
out today, Yeah, we work Looking at the shoes is blue.
They're gonna see me running And it's a whole different
mentality than if you're just going there in the mid
(32:10):
feast joint you like, I'm working on my wife beater today,
and that is what it is. Well, thank you guys
so much for coming out, especially on your birthday. So
today we're gonna close out. I got you a couple
of different cake options so we can all gain weight,
so you guys can compete in the work original. I
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don't know if it's vanilla in there, best vanilla chocolate hair. Yeah, yo, man,
appreciate you guys for chilling with us. You know what
it is eating while broke. Yeah, this amazing piece of toast.
And I hope y'all learned something new today. Yes, with
kidding and Assia, we had awesome pizza toast today. Thank
you for more eating while broke. From My Heart Radio
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and The Black Effect, visit the I Heart Radio, O app,
Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows
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