SEJ - A Snack Worth Singing About

In this episode of 'Eating While Broke', host Coline Witt welcomes Trinidadian singer and songwriter, "Sej", for an inspiring and flavorful conversation. Sej shares her journey as a newcomer to the U.S., her transition into the music industry, and the cultural differences she’s encountered along the way.  

Together, they dive into Caribbean snacks, including the classic Trinidadian dish, "Cricks and Cheese" with 'Booty Sauce', while exploring Sej’s background, the challenges she faced during COVID-19, and her evolving music career. Sej also opens up about collaborating with 'Ne-Yo', overcoming industry pressures, and her creative songwriting process.  

This episode is packed with personal anecdotes, behind-the-scenes stories, and lighthearted moments between Coline and Sej. Don’t miss this insightful look at the life and career of a rising star!  

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
I'm your host Colleen Witt, and today we have very
special guest, trended Daddy in singer songwriter says is in
the building. Hi, It's so nice to have you.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm so happy to be here this podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
This is your first Well just for all y'all listeners
that don't get to in person, I will say, as
a straight female straight that she is beyond gorgeous. You
are so crazy. I said it like eighteen times, like cue,
did you see how brady'sy was?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hello? Did you see did you see her? She's making
me sorry? Yes?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
And now I see why your team we were late.
We're running behind schedule and your team blow up my
phone and they definitely don't like me because I take it.
They started their calls at like eight this morning, I'm
and every time they called me, I would just respond
back with a text.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
So I'm I hate.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I don't like calls.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Why you need to call me when it's textable? It's
not textable?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, maybe gotta have the awkward bie you're done, you're done,
or when you tell someone you only have ten minutes
left on a call and they continue talking like, yeah,
so how long have you been out here?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's gonna be two years in like a few months.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
And how do you like it in America in general? Like,
I don't know if I would say, like, I love it.
I feel like it's definitely so different because you know,
in turn it out, everyone is so welcoming, it's very hospitable.
Everyone's just, you know, very friendly. And I don't really
get that hair like people aren't friendly, They're very to themselves.
It's kind of like stampedolfish. So I find it kind

(01:58):
of hard to be honest. But I do love like
the people that I'm working with, Like, there's so many
talented people here, there's so much great opportunity. So I'm
grateful to be here. I'm able to do what I
want because I don't really have the opportunities that I
would if I would intrin it out so nice?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
And then do you want to share with everybody the
drinks you tried today that I put in front of you?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
So we tried you who? You? Who?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I gave her a pink you who guys.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, I don't really know I feel about pink drinks.
It kind of reminds you of pepto bismal, like yeah, totally, yeah, total,
But it was actually not bad. This thing right here, yo,
this is diabetes and.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
She's referencing the kool aid. She did not like, I'm late.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I'm sweet, I can't drink it, like how are you?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
And this is not the sweet but that's not I
gave her the low sugar version, so I had like
that sweet and low flavor, but she still she was
not rocking with it, so you know, I just wanted
to bless her with some.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
This one is bad. I could drink this one like
if I didn't know what it was pink and I
was just I would be like, it's good, right, this one.
You know, if y'all, if you like it, I.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Promise you if I find out later that you randomly
were craving it, you who would make my da.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
No, you might have really pulled me.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Okay, yeah, I'd be sucking those down. I found out
about you, who's after we had this studio. I only
buy the chocolate version. If you try the chocolate version,
it's really good. And then I started messing with the
pink version, and I was like, oh, I like both,
but the if you try the chocolate I promise you
you will like this drink. You will be in where
are you at Florida right now? You will be at

(03:28):
Florida and you will be like, I think I want one. Okay,
So I helped you out, No, you really put me
on talk to you. So before we get into an interview,
I would like to know what you're going to be
having me eat today as a dish you once ate
when you were broke or still could possibly entertain.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Now, Yeah, so today for y'all, I broughd the infamous
creks on cheese accompanied by booty sauce. If you're from
the Caribbean, specifically Trinidad, y'all know cricks and cheese. I
even see and like people come on here and they
make it like all me broke me. So I'm like,
if you're really broke, you all in have all that ingredients,
Like you also have oileve ingredients to be making gold baby.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Exactly. If you broke, you have cheese.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
You have crioks. That's your meal. That's all you have.
So this is a staple in the Caribbean community. If
you have not to any fridge, your mother don't want
to cook, you just want to eat something this way
you eat the.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Cheese and it's basically cheese and crackers, because she went
shopping all around looking for it and she could not
find this authentic version. So this is a dish I love. Okay,
I eat this on a Rando day, and you're right
when I don't feel like cooking.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yes, it's so easy.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
You don't have to do much easy Sometimes secretly, if
you knew me, like behind camera, whenever a guest gives
me a dish with like thirty ingredients, I do all
the shit talking. I'm like, this, bullshit, this is prorid
exactly I have, especially if they're specific on like certain
ingredients like labels, I'm like, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. What is

(04:58):
it still forty dollars?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I will say though as a credit to some of
the guests, they definitely could like stretch those ingredients out
to feed a lot more. But I am relieved that
you chose a dish that really everyone at home could afford.
So go ahead, slice of the cheese, hug me up.
And then you did add this.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Though, Yeah, this this is the essential, the Caribbean essential
es pepper sauce, the best pepper social I put this
on everything. I have a keychain. My best friend she
made me. She knows so much Chella pepper, so she
made me a keychain just to put pepper sauce in Twilish.
We have it like a touch to my bog and
every bog like I just put it on, like that's
that's whole bod. This is hold on.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm so is this from?

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
This is from?

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Okay, so let's do this. So what are we doing?
We're just taking crackers and cheese.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yes? Should I cut them off? Okay?

Speaker 1 (05:48):
And then I just take the crackers. I'll take the crackers.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
They're not as good ritz. They break too easily. They're
very you see, look at us, they're two fragiles. Creaks
is you know most city she's she's you know, she'd.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Just crooks, crick cricks cr x oh cricks see our
I x okay?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah cheese. Yeah, when I broke, When you broke, you
can't be cutting tick cheese. It's ten. You got to
make this stretches the cheese.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
I'll be.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
That's privilege. That's privilege. I love it.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I love it. So for us that have not been
to Trinidad, paint me the picture of what it's like.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Over there, it's like, I don't know, it's just so
great people. Everyone is so friendly. Everyone is just willing
to do anything for you. Like it's just such a
great group of people. You know, we all just show
love to one another. Our Carnival we have the best
Cannibal and Wilio. If you'll never been to trainingy Connival,
we hadny Mecca. So you ever been to Cannibal if

(06:51):
you haven't been to Training Cannibal, we just we're great people,
Like we just come together. I brought my best friend
to Trinidad last year and we got both people. You know,
as soon as you're just in like Korean people presents,
everyone's friendly. You talk and she's like, you know what
I listen like because I just pick up a comments
And I'm like, no, that's just.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Like how people are you know, like your best friend
from here? Yeah, so how are you guys best friends?
How do you guys know each other?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
So I met her, well, this is a fun fact.
I have no social skills. So I have no social skills.
So I went on this thing called bumble bff. She's
gonna be so mild that I said this because she
likes to lie to people. She's like, you can't tell
people we met a bumble bff. That's embarrassing. I'm like,
who cares?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I don't care for bumbo is. Isn't it bumble like
a dating side?

Speaker 4 (07:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
She just like a best friend version. See there's a
friend vision so.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
You yes, no, yes, so there's the best friend vision.
I love that she's embarrassed by it.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
For really, I wouldn't care.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Like, so you went on there to find a friend.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, because I had just moved. I don't know anybody.
I'm in a new city. Like how do I?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I don't even know you could do that?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah. I was like I was on TikTok and I
was like, how do I make a friend? Like? How
do I? Because, as I said, I have no socials,
so I can't just be.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Going going like that. We'll be walking down the streets,
She'll start talking to strangers and I'm like they're all like, no,
you're not doing it.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
I have no So she she is queen of socials.
I don't know how she does it. But to me, like,
ever since I came here, everyone's stand off and she
was like, I'm not trying. You know, been going up
to people one day, you know, doing any kind of
extra stuff. So I'm like, let me go on my
little bit at ff bumble app and I met her.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
So wait, when you were going on this app, did
you meet a bunch of different people and then you
synced with her?

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yes? Yeah, it was definitely okay, okay, So.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Can you told me about a couple of year experiences?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
So I had this one gul. She was super nice
at fous But like, I don't eve been to Miami.
The whole thing for me with Miami is everyone is
just like party and everything is party party.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
So I'll say this though Miami, there's a lot of
beautiful people there right.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
It's it's non stop party and everyone just went to
the club. They going on boats and like I you know,
I like my little fish, but like y'all don't want
to do anything else, Like you know, you don't want
to go on a little picnic, go and paint some pots,
like you know, do something else. And it was hard
for me because like they would only want to just
be outside. Oh you good, So and so is going
hey you know, Like it's just kind of like I

(09:15):
was focused on what I was doing. I just wanted
to you know, have a friend I could do fun
and adventurous things with. So that was kind of like
my struggle finding gun and she was perfect, Like her
first thing and her BI was like, don't message me
if you want to potty. I was like, that's for me, right,
that's right there.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
So then what was that conversation, like, hey, do you
want to be friends or how does that work? Because
that is a very unique way to find a friend.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I let you mentioned. I was like, we need to
be friends. That's what I said. They first mess just
like we need to be friends, and then I think
we met up like the next day. Really I could
have been kidnapped. She could have really been someone who
could have kidnapped me free, I have no there was
no stranger danger going on.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
And did you're camp the people that you're working with,
the signed to and have productive deals with where they
like be careful finding friends on did they know you
were doing this? Do they know this at all? Right now?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
This story? I don't think they do?

Speaker 3 (10:08):
You know?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Because she did? She don't be telling people. She's like,
you can't be We met on bumble BF. So I'm like, okay, girl,
like to be like, holy on me and she's like, well,
you know, I'm like, if you want to light to them,
be my guess. I am not doing that.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
So you took it to Trinidad. That's a good friend trip.
That was nice.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
It was it was she had so much fun. Like
we she played corn, you know, feathers.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
She wore the whole pasture.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, you want to see a pic after? Yeah, like
she there's someone like the Newspeople interviewed though, like she
was only one race?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Is she she's white?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
This white? Yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
And she dressed the whole costume.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
The whole thing. I had to teach her all to whine.
We had soker class every day. I had to show
she when I tell you, she was a lost course
at the beginning. Sis couldn't give. There was no gyrating
going on, there was there was nothing going on. I
really had to. You know, Grindy cares for some more
in Hawaish you know. Now she can wind, she can wind, like, okay.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
You gotta say the I'm sure anyone that's Lesson's gonna
want to see what she looks like.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Now. She's so pretty too.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Okay, So you took her there and she got Now
does it feels like to her, does she feel like
it's Trinidad is a place that she's gonna want to
continue to go.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
So Colin, it was next week and I was like,
you're talking to and she's like, I'm so sad I
missing Connorble like we should be there, Like I want
to go. I'm like girl, and she's calling home. She's like,
I miss home. I'm like, girl, you're from Tampa. When
you made it, you're from Tampa. Let's take it up.
She's staying to like if people ask away, she's telling

(11:38):
them Trinidad. I'm like, girl, you've been at one time.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Spoken like a true American.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
It was so funny. I was like, you're really and
your colonize the air. That's why she's white.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
I'm like, girl, okay, let meeh, pug me up.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
This is your plate. I'm gonna fix your plate.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Oh you have mine up?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Are cute?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Okay? Thank you?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I got shere and then't know how to make Christian.
She bougie, but we gonna see.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Okay, So you have a song out right now called
two Shots. Okay for the listeners that haven't heard you sing,
are you down to give us a little hum of
a note. I know, I know, I'll give you a
lot of sugars and sweets and no water and nothing
that would help your vocals.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
You just show me deep and I am throwing, look
how presentable you really try?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
And I'm really trying hear, Like.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Does everyone dress and have that stylist flair that you
have INND in Trinidad.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
I wouldn't say like exactly yes, but I do like to.
I try to blend it, like I want to incorporate
my style with like always some kind of Caribbean influence.
You know, that's very important to me. So they do
have elements like the belt that I'm wearing stuff that
is very Cribban, like I feel like my auntie would
put that on. I love to dress like I would
like to have some kind of Caribbean auntie element in
my outfit. So it definitely has inspiration from the Caribbean,

(12:55):
but not fully like You're not gonna go down the
sheet and be like, oh yeah, that's such af you know.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Well says the first thing I noticed was your nails
and I was like girl, And then like all the
accessories and everything, I was like, I want to steal
all that it's so cute.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I'm giving it to you here. You're waiting for the cube.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Don't forget it though, figures take it back, Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
You sure, no, I'll try it on. Put it on you.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I want to put it all the way on because
I'm scared.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
You're good. You sure scared. I tried it you though,
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's so cute. I'm going to go home and.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Be like, I can't function with diesel. The hard to function.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Really, it's so cute. Okay, so you plated it. It
looks cute. Oh, you're going to put it on the side.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I'm like, I don't want it to touch them. I'm
not a big like things touching, you know.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Oh really I am all right there you go. Look
it looks beautiful. Guys, you would have been sad if
it touched I see you trying to stomach it. Okay,
you played it this nice?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, I tried. Is this it's not? I don't know.
I mean, I don't want to speak for you, because
I did give it to American and they thought it
was spicy. But my white friend she she be.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Hilarious. I wish she was here. I'm gonna try dip
in this hold on.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, let me know. If I don't think it's spicy,
it's flavorful, you know. Just do you think it's spicy?
Are you?

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Is there?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
No, you're joking? Are you? Are you? You're joking?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
That is dynamite? What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
What do you mean? It's just like a little you
know what added flavor. It's not so much.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I went like this.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I went like this, Yeah, see, it's not as bad.
It's it. I feel like, I feel like you're not
dipping it properly. I feel like you need to just
you need it supposed to be only cheese, so you
pretty cheese and you just do a little touch on
the cheese. She'll touch, Yeah, that's good, and then you

(15:08):
put it on the.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Kraco It's look. Look, I'm surviving it. But it did
hit my whole mouth.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
There we go. I'm screaming.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
No, that's legal.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Really wow, I'm sorry. I just tried to kill those
attempts at Moodio this witness.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I would not ever tell anyone that's not spicy. I
don't think I see what you're saying. It's like a
flavor bomb of pepper. But I'm just curious what happens
if I put like a little, I'd.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Be doing nothing. Like if I eat it, I'm like
scooping it. I want is a custom.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I just want to try, just to see if I live.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Okay, I believe in you. Okay, Okay, that's too much.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
That's too much.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
That's how much do you do?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
You said you do scoops.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Not that big of a scoop, but how big is
your scoops? I mean, let's get to business. Yeah, that
was reasonable. I put it on.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
And she's a professional, and this is how much she
puts on the cracker. Everybody can see that, like, this
is what I do. This is a professionally, Like this
is my bite. Okay, hold on, hold on, let me.
I got a thick piece of cheese to save my life. Okay,
and then you put it on, yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
And you just go bite.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
He was like it was very good, Like for all
you listeners at home that have never had this stick
to cheese and crackers though, I mean, it's it's got
a flair, but it tastes like pepper pepper boblem like
if you know, if you can imagine a dynamite stick,

(16:56):
that's what it is. I mean, it's doable. I'm gonna
do it because I want to feel whole. Mm hmmm, boo,
I won't right for the element mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I'm gonna do it, but I.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Love that no pepper, you love what the kool aid?
Finally pepper?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Mm hmm, it's just so good.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, no way, it would be my key chain. No,
you know what. Someone put me onto this sauce.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Hold up, let me see, let me see.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I like trying things with you. Oh good, guys.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
We're gonna try this. Someone gave us this sauce season
you know what. I don't want you to know the
names of these sauces. I'm not gonna let it touch anything. Okay,
let's see if you like this.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I like this so I don't know I feel about
this being so is it green seasoning?

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Like?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
What isn't it?

Speaker 1 (17:44):
I'm not telling you to you bite it? Okay, all right,
do the same hook up.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Okay, let's see. I'm not a faab. These smell already,
these smellers already a bit concening.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Like, I don't know, I think you're gonna like this here.
I'm gonna try it too. I want to do it
the way you're doing it, hold up kind of smells I.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Could have green season. We going okay.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
To me?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I like yourself to mean I don't taste like nothing?

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, no, because you don't have taste buds anymore. Ye noatus,
it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, I don't really for your listeners.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
This is a halburnaro or hot sauce, and it tastes
like kool aid compared to her pepper sauce.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I promise you if you like a little spice, so
you will like this.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
If you eat hot peppers and like it's nothing like
it's cherries, you will love that pepper sauce.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
It's not that bad.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Absolutely, what what kind of can I see that?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah? Go for it.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Scotch bonnets Okay, Scotch bonnet. Yeah, if you can eat
Scotch bonnets, this is your sauce. If you cannot, and
you're like me, you can eat this sauce, but after
you eat Scotch bonnet sauce, you won't be able to
taste this sauce anyways. This say, is like nothing. I

(19:15):
don't even taste.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
It exactly those first No, because it just don't have
a flavor.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
No, because you don't have taste it all right, So
now we've we've learned that you don't have taste buds,
but you could sing true, this is very delicious. You
know what this kind of reminds me of, Like, what
have you had pepperoni and cheese and cracker I do

(19:45):
you would like it?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Really? I do like pizza leagles what they're good?

Speaker 1 (19:54):
I really like them. You should just do like food,
like trying different foods every day, people be say, just
to see how you react. Okay, so tell me how
does a girl from Trinidad end.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Up in Florida.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Well, I'm gonna keep eating this, by the way, even
though I think I'm semi addicted to the pepper sauce
only because I can't taste anything.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
So for me, I always used to love singing since
I was small. I would be singing powang. I would be,
you know, in the choir, singing hymns. Any chime to sing,
I will be singing. I mean, I always love singing.
But you know, you're from the Caribbean and he's from
a small island. You don't think you could actually, you know,
do anything with it. You know, Caribbean parents either gonna
be a lawyer or doctor. Pick one like that was

(20:40):
your choice. That's all they want you to do. The
don't want you to do anything else. You tell let me
you want to do music, They laughing at you. So
I always wanted to do music, but I didn't really
have that support, like from my family. It was always
like I studied on sciences like I was supposed to do,
like medicine.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Like, so, I'm guessing you chose a doctor.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, my dad's a doctor. I'm like, so, so you
really had to be a doctor, Okay, yeah, so I
like I was doing sciences. I had no choice, like
I have to do sciences, Like, well, you have to
be you have to do And I kind of was
fully in it until like when I started doing university.
I was like, I don't know if I really want to,

(21:18):
Like I don't want to do this, Like this is
not for me. And I told like my dad.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
And did you tell him over the phone?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
I didn't know. I told him. I told him in person.
He was kind of just like we're uh, one on one. Yeah,
he wasn't trying to he wasn't trying to hear it.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
You had a lot of faith in yourself and him.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, he was safe.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Hey, dad, I don't want to be a doctor, surprise,
but I want to be a singer.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah. He literally was like girls, shut the hell up.
But though he literally was like I don't know about this,
like because I mean, why would you know your crimean parents,
It's not it's not something that happens every day. So
I basically ended up during COVID. My dad ended up
going to Florida, Like he got stuck in Florida during COVID,
so he was there. I was kind of stuck in

(22:08):
Trinidad buy like me and my brother alone, like the
house alone. He was kind of just day by Ason.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Where's her mom?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
She was like she was in Trinidad, but we didn't
really like see her as much. We were kind of
in like where my dad stayed. So me and my
brother were there and like we had to like find
ways to like you know, pay for like you know,
the light, build different stuff. So I ended up like
really like posting a lot on Instagram. I would just
post like pictures, a bunch of things. And then I

(22:34):
got reached out to by this really like the biggest
artist in Trinida, Marshall Montana, and they were like what
they want me to be in a video and I
had never like done a music video before, but I
was like, you know, it's my Montana. I'm gonna go.
And I was like, you knowly background, I was like,
I'm gonna tell him I want to do music and
I want to see, like if you would listen, you know,
tell me if it's even with my time. So I

(22:55):
go there and me and Marshall, you know, be very
He's very nice. He's very friendly, and I tell him, like,
I really want to do music, like would you listen
to some stuff that I did, and you tell me
if it's something I should like do even try and pursue.
And he's like, send it to me and I'll let
you know. Mind you. At the time, I had no phone,
Like my phone had broke right before COVID started. I'm like,

(23:16):
who could afford to buy your phone in COVID. So
the entirety of COVID, all I had was a iPad.
The only way you could contact me was Instagram. I
had no phone. I had nothing like, couldn't go and
make no kind of content. I had no phone, nothing like.
It was. It was a lot.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
So I sent your dad is.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
All the way to Florida. Yeah, it's literally just like
me and my brother. So I send him, I send
him these songs and I just sent him from my
mom's phone, like I had to go to her house
get to send it from her phone and like wait
to hear feedback. And so he finally calls my mom's
phone and like I have to like tady from her
and be like okay, yeah, what do you think? And
he like takes a week. So I already felt like

(23:52):
he forgot about me. I was like, you don't even
studying me, you don't even taking me on. He calls me,
He's like I listened to your music. Oh my god,
you have an amazing voice, like this is this is incredible.
You actually have an opportunity to, you know, leave Trinidad
and do something bigger than this. You need to leave,
need to pursue your craft, like you just need to
work on yourself and you could go so far. I'm

(24:12):
here not from him, Like I was shocked, you know,
because this man is the biggest face in Trinidad, like
he is Marsha Montana. So when I heard, I was like, Okay,
that's my confirmation. You know you have some self double
you hear someone like that tell you, okay, you could
actually pursue this. I was like, you know what I'm
doing it. I told my dad, I'm like, as soon
as you first flight from Trinidad like opens up, because
he bored us We're closed. Our borders were closed like

(24:34):
an extra year from like America, yours open like a
year before always.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Did really Yeah, how long were you guys in COVID
two years or one two?

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, So as soon as he bought US open, I
had to I checked it up there, like I was
only second flight. The second day that he bought US open.
I went, I came up here one time and like.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
You came to Florida, Yeah, did you tell your dad
that you were you were going to produce yes for
you got on the plane. Yeah, he said okay.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
He was like okay, because what Marshall said, he was
like okay, you know, like he was kind of most
part He's like, you're not just gonna tell you that,
So he was kind of sid to be more supportive.
And I came up to Florida. As soon as I
got there, I started to like go to a different studios,
like message a bunch of people like oh, I want
to work with you just see who I could, you know,
get in contact with. And my dad ended up knowing
someone who is an engineer. His name is Nigel, who's

(25:24):
like my really good friend now he's a family friend.
And he told me to come to this studio and
like just sing, just sing some songs. And he was like,
you know, see if you want to like help me
out or you know, work with me, and like I
sung for him and he was like okay, yeah, we
were doing this and since then he's like been my engineer.
He's like hit Maker's injinee so like heki does all
the hitmakers stuff. So he was like, yeah, we're gonna

(25:46):
we're gonna make this week. I never knew how to write,
like like full on, like write songs just like from scratch.
He literally sat me down and I was like I
want to learn, Like just teach me. I'm all about
learning like anything. I sent my mind to him like
I'm gonna figure out how to do it. I can
rhyme sentences before like I couldn't do anything. He was
like this, who works this. I sat at the table
like I was like I'm not leaving a table until

(26:06):
I write like a full song like I'm not leaving,
and I did it. I did that, and I wrote
three songs and I just started sending it to everybody,
like I sent it to a bunch of different like
companies and that's how Neo heard my song because I
sent it to them too. I was like, I'm any
clas that I can reach out to, like.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
I'm you're sending it, you're dming or emails. Wow.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, So I'm just fine. And everybody emails like anybody
would have email at touch anything like me, I don't play.
I'm like I'm gonna get it. So they reached out
to me and they're like, okay, like will we heard
yourself really like if we want to, you know, hey,
how you saw them live? And so they literally flew
me to Las Vegas like a day after.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Old Neils camp or yeah, we tart out to Compound entertainment.
We love those guys, always love those.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Guys, big up them, and so they flew me there
to Las Vegas. Was like, okay, you need to write
a song to this, Like you need to write a
listen to this song in like like a few hours,
do this recorded, and then we're gonna decide if we
want to move with you some hype of ventilation. Mind you,
I never been in a different time zone before. Las
Vegas is a whole different times so I'm like trying

(27:10):
to deal with jet log I don't have to do that.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Give you how many hours a couple?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I was like, yeah, he was like. Trio was just like,
I'm like, honest, Neo on the songs. It's like, I'm
singing the hook on the this list, and I'm like,
what am I supposed to do?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Like but Neil? Now, Neil was a songwriter for like
a kazillion years, so like that's a hard I shouldn't
even know. Just admitting a song that he would even
listen to, You're like, oh my god, this guy's gonna
listen for all the.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I was like, how am I gonna write something that's
good enough? Like because here his paut was ready on it.
So I'm like, okay, how do I you know, like,
how do I?

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (27:43):
His part was already on it?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
So I'm like, one day, hell, am I gonna say
all this not gonna compete with what he wrote? You know?
And I'm just like they're stressed and all, Like I
would I find O my brother came with me because
he's also really talented. She was like, relax, relocks. He
helped me write.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I was like, is your brother they were younger, younger, okay.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, he's like he came, He's like relax. She's just
being really like supportive. And I went in. I recorded it,
and after recorded, they were like, we look, you want
to take Neil off this song and just like give
it to you because they like they like my stuff
so much. They were like, we actually want to hear
more of you on this song, like we want to
take like some of what he did. I'm like, shit, okay, Like.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
I was feeling myself for the win, Okay, I like
this story.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah. So then they decided we want to work on
That's kind of what got me here today. I've been
working with them for like a year now, and that's
oh man, well.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
They I saw I to Shan. I was doing some
other stuff with Sashan and he mentioned you, So I
started following you. That's how I know all your stuff, Like, oh,
you actually know alliced that I've been following you. But
to Son, he was like, take it care of her,
be careful with her all this stuff. I'm like design
I got this and then I didn't take.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Any of this. He's like, why does the lady ignored me?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, but that camp is really loyal, like really loyal.
Like once you're cool with them, you're good for life.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
It's so true. They really are. They really are.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
So what are some of the like downfalls that you've
hit so far in the industry.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
I wouldn't say I've had that many downfalls in the industry.
I feel like they major downfalls. I I was just
even getting here to begin my journey, like being stuck
in COVID, having no phone, like having to do all
these like random side jobs because like everything was closing COVID.
You couldn't get a job. It was like really hard
to Like.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
How old were you at that time? Like I was
not trying to age you, but he's like really nineteen, yeah, okay,
So I was like I was like, what the heck?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I didn't know what to do. So I was just stressed.
So like because my dad is away, it's just us,
Like he was really like he wasn't talking to us,
like we was just usday and we were like we
are like children, like what are we supposed to do?
And so that was really stressful, like we were struggling.
This was all me, like we have none to eat.
This is all like this was like we had when

(29:57):
you have no buddy, because like you are like like
this what we were eating. So that's kind of how
it was really hard. Like I didn't have a phone
until I go to America. I was so happy I
got this one. I was like, I have a phone,
like you know, excited, and I was also happy to
have my little phone, Like it was really great, Like
that whole process of just getting here, like applying for
a visa all of that, like so you.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Guys have to have to do a work visa and
all that. Now does the whole Trump thing scare you
at all?

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Just? Yeah, I literally had a night man I got
the pot, Like really, yes, it's so scary. I hope
that nothing, you know, I don't hope nothing changes and
the realm of what I have to do, but it's
very scary.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
My mom is jamaking, as you know, and she didn't
get her citizenship till last year. I was like, Mom
and dad, what have you been doing for thirty years?
And you didn't fill out this family word the whole time?
But they do make it like if you have like
my mom, they had found some kind of like she
did something and got her in trouble or something. They

(30:58):
trying to track it from when she was like twenty
or something, and Eric Chryna, she was like, I don't
even think that's me, and they were trying to hold
up her whole everything for that. So they can be
a little weird, you know. So but that's not gonna
happen to you all.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Let's pray. Let's say pray because I really don't want that.
That's what works.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
So you're fine. So then, like, what who else have
you worked with so far? Outside of Neon?

Speaker 2 (31:23):
You know, Stargate. I had a session with them. We
did a really cool song. I did two songs with them,
and they really loved it. They have a school, I
don't know. They have a school hair called Lamp where
they only accept like fifty people and they basically like
it's either for artists, writers or producers, and they just
like it's an intensive, like nine month course where they

(31:43):
have to like make songs every week. And they love
my songs so much. They brought all of like their
students in I'm like made them do gang vocals on
the course and my song, I was like, that's.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
So sweet, like I first, So it's like a natural
fit for you. Now, does the songwriting prices process feel
easier to you?

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I feel like it is easier. I definitely have like
my own way of writing, Like I don't like I
don't like when it's a bunch of people in a room,
like I feel like flustered. I kind of need to
like collect my thoughts, like I'm very I need like quiet.
I can't function like a noise. So I do say
like I still need that kind of to myself because
I have like songwriters to friends, like they'll be like

(32:22):
everyone is screaming around and be like no, no, no, no.
I'm like, how the hell can you all even like
think when I can't. I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
So I can't even write, Like if you were to
talk to me while I'm texting, I would be like
retexting everything. Yeah you know what I'm saying. I like,
I can't multitask.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
It's really hard.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
So but when they do do songwriting sessions, they do
have like groups of people do it usually.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, so it's like always like one person or two,
Like they'll just bring people just to like help understand
because it's what I want, you know, is just to
help see if they can help me, you know, like
get to what I want to do quickly. But it's
really cool. I've worked with some really nice people in
La so far.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
And how long are you in LA for?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'm here till second. I've been here for a month.
It'll be a month in the second.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Oh I got just in time.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, because you would have left. Yeah I was. I
leave only second. But I've been here for a whole
month and you like it. Yeah, Well, I didn't really
get to do anything like fun. It's probably like the
most fun I've had since I've hit really because I
don't get to go. All I'm doing is like doing
week stuff, so I haven't got to expool and nothing
like that.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
I'm trying to think of some cool stuff stuff you
can do. I like to do creative stuff too. Yeah,
but I have a three year old, so I live
like a kid again. I love that sounds a little crazy,
but i'd be like, what fun. They got the largest
bounce house out here, the largest. I'm with it.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I love that. I don't know why, like we somehow
made it up. Taking where all the people all the
people can't like do kid like yes, Like I want
my bady to have a bouone sea house. I want
to have goodie bogs and with my snocks when I leave, Like,
why we can't have that?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
I feel like we should have that though, Like I
feel like once I had a kid, I got an
excuse to do it because I promised you I'll be
I'll be that parent that look up all the cool
stuff and I'm like, yo, let's go do this and
then some of the cool places, Like I'm really into VR.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I don't. I've never tried it. Never.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, girl, I'm gonna send you some links. But there's
there's like places you can go where it's like all
virtual reality and you put on the headsets and you're
all in this world.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
That's not scary. I'll be like, well I love it.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
No you won't. No, you won't, No, you won't. If
you could eat pepper sauce. I forgot it was pepper
sauce for a second and I put it on while
you were talking. I was like, I keep going back
to it because like my mouth it clears, like the
pepper feeling clears, and then I'm like, oh, it's not
that bad, and then I go in for more and
I'm like, oh no, it's still bad. But every time

(34:46):
the pepper goes away, maybe my mouth is healing from
the bands.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's good. I feel like you'll have a love hate relationship. Yes,
we love it.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
You know, I wish you and kool Aid had a
love hate relationship.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Okay, we went with you, you know we baby steps baby steps.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
So are their producers and artists that you want to
work with?

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Oh yeah, like I love I love you know, like
career music. I've always loved Russian and I feel like
he's super talented and London only track. I always wanted
to work with him. There's so many I feel like
I assume you don't even ask him on something and
you know the answer as soon as you get asked.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
You Like, that's how I feel when people ask me,
like who who's been on the eating will broke?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
And I'm like, oh, oh hell no, yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
I should know the answer, but I can't say now
one name. I'll be like that question.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
But a lot of people I wanted to I've had
the chance to work with. But those are people that
can think of off the top of my head. But
there's so much more, like there's so many talented people.
A lot of people in the UK. Two they're so talented,
the autist only producers it, I feel like.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
And you've been to the UK too.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
So now since your career is still fairly new, let's
go back to home life in Trinidad, Like, tell me
more about that and what led you into music.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well, my mom when she was younger, she was in
a bond, so she would always like do music, Like
it was always like in the house. And I feel
like you just growing up to your creame, you had
a lot of different types of music because there's so
much culture, there's so many different backgrounds. You hear all
kinds of music. So I always just felt connected to it.
In school from like your from the age of four,
in like primary school in Trinidad, like you have to

(36:26):
be playing pand like you can't even reach the pond
and they have you in school like playing pand like
you it's always just embedded in the culture, like we
always like learning about music. So that's kind of how
I would say, how did your mom take it? She's supportive.
Now I feel like everyone is a lot more supportive
now from jump. It was kind of like, you know,
a little I'm not a little shaky, but now she

(36:50):
definitely is more supportive. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
And then with your mom and dad, they're separated obviously,
how did it come out where you end up living
with your dad and not your mom.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Well, because she lives in Trinidad still and he is
still in Florida.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
So but you said during COVID, like your brother and
you were by yourselves and your mom was somewhere else,
So how did that happen?

Speaker 2 (37:13):
That was the whole was the whole situation that would
but like we were just there for the while and
then until like I would we would go there to
like to a home from time to time, but she
only had two bedrooms, so that we both couldn't go.
We wouldn't want to like leave one of like we
wouldn't want to abandon one another, so we just rode it,
you know, like stay together and stead of you know,

(37:34):
just leaving one to go because it felt unfait, you know,
So that's kind of what we have to do.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
And then but when your dad was in the state
in Trinidad, you guys would just rotate. Yeah, okay, okay, yeah,
So and then are your parents close? Are they cool
or they not talk?

Speaker 2 (37:49):
They definitely have an interesting relationship.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Okay, it's definitely interesting.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I would say, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
So what is your music about?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Now?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
It's really I'm really your love of good my love
a gool fez. It's always about music in some way,
love music yet so loving.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
So I was like, damn, she must really love music,
just just writing songs about how she loved music.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I'm screwing.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
No.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, like you know, love, heartbreak, you know, just things
that you go through in life. Everyone goes too that
they can relate to.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Are you dating now that you're in the States?

Speaker 2 (38:24):
What do you mean by that? Do you mean? What
does that mean?

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Are you in a committed relationship?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Am I'm gonna committed relationship?

Speaker 3 (38:40):
You are?

Speaker 2 (38:41):
God Like, we're very close. I love God Jesus, you know,
being a very committed relationship.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
I would say, yes, are you dating? Damn, I'm having
you up like, I'm like, yeah, let's say that.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, Okay, when I say gild be the definition you
went on bumbo for a friendship?

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Right?

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Do you ever go on bumbo for dating?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Why because you can walk outside and they just fighting
each other?

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
I don't. I'm really scared of men, genuinely scared of them.
So I just you don't see my little bubble. You know.
I'm definitely in my me era, like it's all about me.
So yeah, I don't be looking for me. Sometimes I
would look see like you say, bumble, like I would look,
but nothing the intentions of actually going on a date.
So it's like, that's what I'm saying, you'll just.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Be like any of these guys looking like Michael B. Jordan,
That's what I would That's what if I was doing it,
I were to do the swipes. I'm looking for Michael,
that's your type. B Let me tell you something I
tell my husband, like, I don't see, I don't. I'm

(40:00):
not a cheater. But if Michael B. Jordan does an
episode of Eating Wall Broke, let's just say, first of all,
she's not cheating. If you tell the person right, I
would be like, look, it's there's no exception to every rule. Okay,

(40:21):
And Michael be as long as he sounds like how
he is in the movies, because you know some of
these guys they act a certain way and then in
real life they're like, oh my god. Really, like if
he talks like that, it's a rap. Michael B. Jordan
is immediately kicked off the list. Or if he's an asshole,
or if he's too like feminine, or if he's too feminine,

(40:41):
then yes, there's stuff he could do that could mess
it up.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
But if Michael B. Jordan doesn't talk and has Hella
masculinity and then smiles with the dimples, it's a rap.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
You ain't even got a wonder, You ain't got a question.
You know we had that was on the show.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Who was hella?

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Fun me? Yes, you are beautiful? Mario?

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Oh really? Girl? Yeah? Girl?

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Did you see him in person? I don't think I've
seen it. When you see him in person, That's how
I felt. Then he showed up and.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I love him. I love it.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Do you ever have someone where you see them and
they're like, oh cool, cool, Mario showed up A girl.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I was.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
He licked the we was making a cake and he
was looking that SPECULA.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Girl.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
I was.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I was.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I love Watch the Mario episode if you haven't, it
is a funny episode because I was like, please ask
my number, please ask for my number, please your husband
just he gave one of the producers here my number,
and I was like, for real, he gave a producer
and I was like, on the producer, like, you know,
he probably he probably met that.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Number for me. He definitely was. You should few.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
I think I hear Neo up, like Mario up, like
I said something like yeah, just so you know, there
was a part of the episode that was kind of no.
So we just pulled that part and he was.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Like okay, and I was like, you're not gonna ask
you to.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Dig like nothing, nothing.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
He didn't give it.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
It was nothing. And I don't remember if I make
a good that.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Day, I think what he's playing again?

Speaker 1 (42:23):
No, no, don't tell me that. One of those No,
if you one hit you're not interested, I will gladly
take the hand. I'm one of those like if you
break up with me, you will never hear from me again, Like,
oh breaking up, that's great, and I will go and
I will cry for a month to my girlfriends like nauseum.

(42:44):
You know, write poems, listen to sad music. But when
you see me, poker face, baby, you ain't a perfect
I'm never gonna hear no what you're thinking about.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Never never, No.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
But Mario said you didn't even play the game of
flirt whatever you know. But Michael B. I don't know.
I made to say, look, Mike, I know you ain't interested,
but you know, everyone gotta take one for a team.
You can't tell me that you ain't hooked up with
somebody you ain't interested in before. I'm sure you had
a random night.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
He definitely has.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
I feel like on the street word on the street
about Michael B. Boy, I heard me in the streets, yeah,
which means I have a shot.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
You for the streets and you on my crust for life.
I have a shot. Okay, guys.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
See, like I'm at love a girl, I can't have
anyone who's for the streets, like I really am too sensitive.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Good luck in America.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
I know, America man so horrible.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
You gotta go to like a small town like North Carolina.
I want to go somewhere small. But if La Miami
Gul's tripping, you're.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Tripping and they're like come no, soub, they don't have
a conversation.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
No.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
That's why I said the second day opening mouth. You
heard me say that, Like Michael B. Jordan's fine, but
I know he could mess it up. Just one one
wrong over. That's all it takes for men. Men don't
realize this. Nob All it takes for you to mess
it up for yourself is just opening your mouth.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
It's so real because I would say when you see
like you like his characters. There's so many characters that
I would see like on TV and I'm like, okay,
like we're in love. You're actually my boyfriend. You don't
know though we're in love. So like then i would
kind of like see some interviews with them and I'm
just like, I'm like, you don't have the same energy,
like I needed that character.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Like I heard I hate to do this here. I
heard Vin Diesel talks like a valley guy, like oh
my god, really, and I was like, Ben.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Diesel, No, hey, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, but Michael be I haven't graded my family for
such a long time, since I had a crush on
him since I was like fourteen. My sister, she is
so delusional. She'd be like, you know, he's gonna be
your husband, and I'll be like, like, I'm already married,
don't worry about that. Like she's still she biteing she

(45:13):
really believes in the dream. And then she'd be like,
you know, hope you all eating while broke and you
know y'all will get married and that's really my brother
in law. I'm like, oh, you're a delusional I need.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
People like that around me. I need delusion, you know
what I mean? Like, I feel like, does you want
to me to be happy in this life? To have
a little bit of the notion?

Speaker 1 (45:28):
I have delusional friends because I had one girl. She's like, oh,
you got Mars's number and you wanted to fuck girl.
Let me tell you what you're gonna do over here,
And I'm like, you are not a good friend. I'm
going to get a restraining order by accident. They like
just show up and say this and yeah, it doesn't creasy.
My sister. I let her live in her fantasy world,

(45:51):
but she pulls up his profile. I don't I don't
know if I follow him or not, but she'll pull
up his profile and I'll be like, you know, when
you into someone, you'd be like, oh wait, that's what
they look like. Oh he wearing an apron. Oh you
see the way he played with that life And she'd
be like, can I have my phone back? And be
like give me a.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Couple of hours yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
But I could talk about that man. But if you
end up, I tell my girlfriends who are hot, like,
if we're on a yacht, thank you. If we're on
a yacht somewhere, what are we doing and Michael B
is interested in you? You know, he comes up to us,
he like, I gotta choose and he interests you. I'll
say this to your face. What would I would say?

(46:29):
You get first and get said.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
It's all you.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I was, no, No, I will really him in, No,
I will.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I would want study bread so good like he like,
I'll be like did you know what she No.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
No, I already told my neighbor. I told my neighbor
I will be. You could be the maid, and this
will be the time that I accept side. I will be.
I will be your side.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
I wonder for you like I was fine. That s it,
like I'm a sweet to I'll do girls, Michael No.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
If I told my friends, if we are on a
boat somewhere, one of us get picked. When I'm going
to be the side, I get it. There's no way
you're gonna turn out, Michael B. I hate that like
friends where it's like the one hot guy and everybody
thinks he's tint and they're like, well you touched. No,
Michael B. Jordan is the exception to the rule, and
my girls know it. You know, he's probably for the streets.

(47:23):
You get a verse and you know what, I will
be aside and if we pass them on to the next.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
I feel like I'm I feel like, I love that
you're willing, but I'm not gonna touch it up. So
it's just you like, it's all poor Michael's hating.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
He's like, don't be friends. He's probably watched us. Don't
be friends. Don't be friends, don't be friends. Don't be
friends please, and the interview we're not friends. Okay, enough
about him. Okay, So is there anything that our your
fans should know about, says Chimbero.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Question.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Yeah, I feel like I'm very goofy. People don't know
the I got them feel like they know I'm super just.
I have like a very dry sense of humor. So
sometimes people will see me and be like, oh, she's
a bitch, but I'm not a bitch.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Shen't come off like a bit.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
People think that like most people. Let I know that
they'll come on to me and told me like, oh
they think my bitch. I don't know, it's them like projecting.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
They're definitely projecting.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
But I've got I got us so many times it's like,
oh my god, you're actually like super nice. So you
were alsome, Like I just be sitting here.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I felt like my team was a little shy.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, like people be thinking I'm like me like I'm
gonna bite them or something. I'm so nice. The only thing, like,
no one be talking to me, like, oh they're flucking,
Like people are scared of me. They don't be talking
to me. You should like, no one talks to me
like I'm yeah, and guys.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
That's you know how I know it's girls and guys
because he was on bumble and we got to roast
you and your friend for the rest of your life
because she thinks it's bad. But you don't seem to
see nothing wrong with it. You find us. But I'm
not gonna tell you. I'm not gonna lie. Like if
I move to a new state, like I've been considering
moving to another state, and I was like, how would

(49:00):
I make friends? Like this is a true thought, and
I was like, how would I, Like, how do I
make friends as an old person? Because that's kind of weird.
Hey do you want to be my friend? But I
did not know that they had that feature. So now
I know if I moved to a new state, God forbid.
We are swiping and we see each other and be like, oh,
CODs looking for friends.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
It's so good, Like it really is good. I've tell
them you can be good people on there, like actual friendship.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
You made one friend, I made one friend.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
I made like a few friends, but like that's just
my you know my.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Do you ever introduce the friends?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
No, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
I don't really cross conteminating, yes I love Yeah I don't.
But I recently I had two So I have two
best friends in New York, right, and they never really
met each other because I went to two different high schools.
And then I one day one bought a house and
I was like, oh, we got to go celebrate, and
I was like, yo, let me bring the other one.

(49:58):
And now but I I say, I don't know why
I did this. Didn't do this years ago because I
don't believe in cross connect contaminating friends. But now I
just go in a group chat, Hey, guys are coming
to New York with and they all interact they all friends,
and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
That's great. I love that I did this for years.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, I always split my time. But now but that's
that's the once in a blue moment that doesn't always.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
I want to like she met so when she came
to she met some of my friends. I just don't
know if she will class at all them. She's a
very you know, distincts like she will blend with like everybody.
But I did blend a good few people in Trinidad
and it was good.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Was she like that's my real friend and You're like, well,
it's just you know, gradual.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
No, she's like very like like you know, like really
that's my best friend, and like she don't. She don't
like to share. She's very you know, like territorial. So
I'll be like talking to my friend. She's like like watching,
like why, like you're fine.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah, there are people that I like them. My twins
kind of like that where she like, this is my friend.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I like that too, Like I'm not like that.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I'm not like that. I am not like that. I
have best friends in New York and y'all all know
who you are, but I have no problem sharing you.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah. My thing is like if you just like like
I'm not with her, but like in general, like if
you have a friend group but it's like you feel
like really left, and I'll be like, well, why you
might not be included, you know, especially if you could
be that's the only situation, but that's never happened, but
like that's the only thing I could think of it.
It's like I will feel the type of way I
got to tell you this story. Let me hear it.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Okay, so I took this girl from LA to New York.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
I'm already not loving this.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Oh it in bad. Yeah, So I took the girls
in New York. And I'm kind of a square bear,
Like I don't really I don't like going to the club.
I don't like drinks. I'm not a drinker, even though
your song two shots works for me because two drinks
is my absolute max exactly. Does only need like the
second drink, You're I'm pretty much done, okay, but the

(51:59):
first I'm feeling it, but secondary I could be done.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
And so this girl she meets my girlfriends and she
thinks they're super cool. Right, but then I became the
uncool person. Do you know this girl ended our friendship?
I hope she doesn't see this friendship and wanted to
be friends with my friends, and my friends still clown

(52:23):
me to this day about it. They'd be like, hey,
we're gonna bite such as us like y'all, but they
clown me because they know it's fucked up. But they
she thought they were cooler than me, and I felt
some type of way because I was like, Damn, I
brought you home. That's like if you I go to
Trinidad with you, like your friends are cooler than you,
you'd be like, damn I brought you. Could you imagine that?
Feeling like you brought me home? Yeah, then I like

(52:46):
your friends more than you.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
That it hurts me.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
I felt like, damn, I shouldn't show you. It actually
made me feel like if you someone gets to know
you and then they don't really.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Like you, that's like it's so messed up.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
It was hard, but I know it was because I
wasn't like a partying type, and she saw that I
was really who I am because she knew. But yeah, yeah,
she ended up like my friends more than me. And
I was like, I'm never ever taking a girl back
home with me. No, that's I would never I f
you're like, oh, I want to go to New York
and be like no.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
No, see, like I feel like to me, I've had
something like that happened to me too, but not like
point where they thought they were cooler to me because
like no, they say it, but they showed it. Yeah,
I didn't have that. It was more so like that
they wanted to be me like I had it, where
like they'll be on my friends and they would like

(53:43):
spread lives about me to try and get people to
tune against me, and then they would just start acting
like yeah I've had that happened like twice.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Oh no, Yeah, that's not good.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
It's very hard. I feel like it's super hard to
make friends as a girl, like when you're pretty, Like
it's hard.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Well, me and my twin have this thing where like
if you're pretty, then we have to be friends. Yeah,
because like pretty people have to stick together exactly terrible.
But now we're like, oh girl, are you beautiful? What's
that not matter? Let's be friends.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
See that's what I need. Like my best friend is
like because she's beautiful too, it's like you just jealous,
Like why are you jealous? We can both be beautiful
it's not a competition, you know. I don't get that.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Because I feel like, hopefully you'll see more that in La.
But you know, are you gonna plan to move to
La because Miami is kind of a tricky spot for music.
I would imagine.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
I'm definitely open to moving. It's just like, my father's
in Florida, and like I'm very close to like my family,
so it's like, dom, I don't want to be so
far away from them.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
And what's your dad doing in Florida?

Speaker 2 (54:45):
He just does, Like here's a few businesses there, so
he just the team. He would he would, but it's.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Just like and your brother's still in Trinidad.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
No, he's in Florida too. No, he came tell the
whole team.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
To move to La. I'll be honest. It's not that great,
but you know for music, yeah, he was.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
We were talking about it yesterday. Definitely, like in talks
about it.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yeah, because Florida's cool, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
There's a lot of more people coming there from music,
like as of recent but it's not the same, you know,
it's not.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
No, but all right, well, how are you gonna do
a little home for us?

Speaker 3 (55:19):
And no?

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Oh yeah, sing it not really Yeah, just see the
single too nosey for. I did a test with Neoh
and Neo was like, let's see if you're tone deaf.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Oh god, all.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Right, I'm gonna tell you a little backstory about this episode. Okay, okay,
I was secretly sick, but I it was during COVID,
and you know when you're sick during COVID, everybody assumes
you have COVID, and they gave me a date to
shoot a NEO. Now, if you have common sense, you
are not going to be like I have COVID, can
we reschedule? Or I'm sick? Can we reschedule? So if

(55:53):
Shawn never sees this, I was sucking on high methol
cough drops during that whole taping. I'm not to sniffle.
And then Neil was like, let's see if you're tone deaf.
Bro I was sick. Okay, I was sick, sick.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
I mean, I need to see this.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I'm like the whole time I was thinking about my
like sickness, like trying to hide this sickness. I kept
telling them like, oh, I think I have allergies. Because
we recorded in his studio over there, like we flew
in over there and his smoke alarm was going off
the whole time. To this day, like people hate that
episode because there's like a baby oh yeah, But the
truth is I was more concerned about them finding out

(56:32):
that I was sick. So he did do a test
on whether I was tone deaf.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
How did you do?

Speaker 1 (56:37):
I was tone deaf? But I don't think it was
a fair test because I was technically sick and I
was trying so not to blow my cover. But just
so you know, no one in the camp knows that
I was secretly sick.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
So you had COOVID for sure.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
No, I didn't have COVID. I was just really sick.
But you know, during that time, they you know, people
was paranoid. So like gonna fly to Atlanta and be
like even though I heard Atlanta was living in the
streets the whole time. Really yeah, La was locked down.
But yeah that's the true story. But yes, I am
tone deaf, So no, I cannot sing.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
I feel like you can. I have a get old vibe,
you know.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
No, but I'll go to like a songwriting workshop with you.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
It's fun. Yeah we should do that, but.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
I would be like you in the corner, like please
stop talking.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Yeah that you got like a small rumins like not
a lot of people. Yeah, yeah you can do the.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Yeah, all right, sing it girl, give us the Trinidaddy
and flavor.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
I'm screaming you couldn't follow you. I told so much
show you. I'm trying to take my mind off everything
you do.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Oh no, I'm gonna be like your friend.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Until we've each the vibe tonight. Yeah, I like my
voice is little going too.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
But yeah, I love it. I love everything. How can
everyone keep up with?

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Says well, my new song is coming up very soon
and two Shots is available on all platforms. Make sure
to check out two Shots you and just follow me
on Instagram, says on the score on the school official
and I have a link tree in there with all
my social you can follow me all over there, and
you know, stay tuned to my gene. It's gonna be fun.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
It's gonna be a lot of fun. And you're gonna
start trying different things and showcasing that. Yes, you need to.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
I have a bunch of training snocks, you know. I
brought some to the link. You should try something.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
I saw you sampling some stuff on Neil and Neil
didn't like the stuff that I knew. I was like,
I was in like the banana sota, I was in
like all of it good too much?

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Like it was good.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
He was being a serious I would have liked the
banana soda.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
No, that's my favorite one love that. Everyone's in comments.
Why would you give me an I'm like, I'm so sorry,
it's so good, Like I'm so you've you have?

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Do you drink like the pineapple juice with the ginger beer?

Speaker 2 (59:04):
I don't know pineapple juice?

Speaker 1 (59:05):
What is the pineapple? Oh, we gotta go get some Jamaican.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Pineapple juice with ginger beer?

Speaker 1 (59:13):
So good?

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Is it like in those glassball tools?

Speaker 1 (59:16):
No, you could just mix it?

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Oh, just no, I've never heard them.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Okay, we're gonna put you on.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
I've never had ginger bed.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Oh my god, we gotta put you off. We're gonna
we're gonna do like a mix of the cultures. Yeah, okay,
all right, guys, thank you so much for tuning into
eating Wild broke. Please keep up, be says, I know
you're gonna be dropping different singles teasing us. And that's it, guys,
peace out, I see y'all.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Bye bye

Speaker 1 (59:46):
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