May 11, 2025 • 44 mins
Peace isn’t passive, it’s practiced. Trouble is real, but God has given you everything you need to hold onto peace when life feels overwhelming.
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Scripture References:
Philippians 4, verses 6-9
John 16, verse 33
Ephesians 6, verses 11-15
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm the pastor of Elevation Church and this is our
podcast and I wanted to thank you for joining us today.
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Hope this inspires you. Hope it builds your faith.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hope it gives your perspective to see God has moving
in your life.
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Enjoy the message.
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Are you ready for the word today? I'm excited. Turn
in your Bible if you have one. If not, we'll
have it up here on the screens. To Philippians four,
starting in verse six. Has our pastor not been on
fire for the last several weeks? I mean like eight
nine weeks he's been preaching.
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He did the series called called did you enjoy That?
I mean, I don't know about you.
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But every single week this man brought a word for me.
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Did you have a favorite? I think my favorite was Martha? Martha,
but then I also.
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Like the one about Jacob with the wagons, and then
I like the one about Samuel.
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And it was like every week I was like, no,
this one's my favorite.
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And the last week he said, all you have to
do is don't and that really ministered to me. I
wish you could see how hard our pastor fights every
single week.
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He makes it look easy, but he fights so.
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Hard every week to bring us a relevant now word
for our church.
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Aren't you grateful for our pastor.
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So it's my turn this week, and I feel like
God has given me a word not just for all
of the moms here, but for everyone all right.
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So we're in Philippians four.
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Starting in verse six, it says this, do not be
anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition,
with thanksgiving, present your request to God.
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And the peace of.
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God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and
minds in Christ Jesus Finally, Brothers and sisters, whatever is true,
whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever
is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy,
think about such things.
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Whatever you have learned or received, or heard from me
or seen in me, put it into.
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Practice, and the God of Peace will be with you.
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Let's pray.
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Where we think you that your word is a lamp
into our feet and a light into our path.
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God, we open up our hearts to hear from you today. Lord.
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We know that sometimes Mother's Day can be a day
that is painful.
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But we're here, Lord, and we want to hear from you.
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Would you shine your light in the darkest areas of
our hearts today?
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Lord use me. Now it's in your name, I pray Amen.
All right, So.
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We have a little problem with the DNA in the
Verdict family. See, I am a very opinionated, like there
is a right and a wrong kind of person. And
then I married Stephen Ferdick, who was a very opinionated
there is a right and a kind of person. So
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together we make a great team when it comes to
proclaiming the word of God.
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Now I'm not a genetic expert.
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I never really understood that little box with the geen thing.
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I don't even remember what it's called. What is it called?
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Graham Punnet Square? Junior accolade right here?
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So I don't know anything.
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About the Punnett Square, but I can tell you that
when Stephen and Holly Ferdick made babies, we managed to
produce three of the most opinionated there is a right
and wrong, and I need to make sure that it's
clear kind of people. So all five of us together
we have a problem. And when a disagreement occurs in
our family.
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Which is rare, because we're a pastor's family.
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We each have this just innate desire to have the
last word.
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I know this is not a problem in your house,
but this is a problem in my house.
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So the other day, the.
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Weather was nice, and Steven and Abby and I we
were having dinner on.
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Our peaceful porch. And earlier that day.
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I had asked my friend Ashley, whose children go to
the same school as Abby, if she could bring Abby
home for me. And so we're having dinner and Abby
starts talking about her afternoon, as she often does, and
she started in and talking about how Ashley had Chick
fil A waiting for her in the car because they
had to kill an hour until Abby was dismissed. Now,
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Ashley's kids are in the same school Abby, but they're
in the lower school and they get out like.
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Twenty minutes before Abby.
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So I needed to stop the story right there, because
I would never inconvenience someone as to make them wait
an hour to pick up my child. So I had
to interrupt story. And I said, no, they get out
at two thirty and.
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You get out at two fifty five.
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And she said, no, they get out at two and
I get out at two fifty five, and I said.
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No, they get out at two thirty.
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And she said, Mom, I think I would know what
time we get out of school. And Stephen said, guys,
does this fact really even matter?
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We're having a peaceful meal here.
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So I held my tongue and Abby proceeded with her story.
And while she was talking, I went on the school
website and I grabbed a screenshot of the school's dismissal
times and I sent that off to her. And just
in case you were wondering, they get out at two
thirty and Abby gets out at two fifty five. The
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title of my sermon today is hold your Peace. You
like that? And I want to talk to you about
the power of peace in your life. And I want
to show you that sometimes in order, sometimes you have
to hold your peace in order to hold your peace, okay.
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And I want you to know that you can have peace,
biblical peace in your.
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Mind and in your relationships, no matter what is going
on in the world around you.
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As a believer in Christ, we have access to.
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A type of peace that Paul is telling us in
this scripture that cannot even be explained. He says, it
transcends all understanding peace in the midst of your pain,
Peace in the midst of your circumstances, Peace in the midst.
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Of your disappointment. It is a benefit of knowing Jesus.
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Jesus said to his disciples in John sixteen three. He said,
I have told you these things so that in me
you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble.
But take heart, I have overcome the world. You see,
Peace is not the absence of problems in your life,
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Jesus said, in this.
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World you will have trouble.
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So trouble is the common denominator of every person who
has breath in their lungs. Peace is the addition of
power to whatever trouble that you're in.
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So before we go any further.
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I need to clear up exactly what kind of peace
I'm talking about.
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I'm not talking.
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About a mood or a mental state where everything feels well.
I'm not talking about a spa or a vacation spot.
Not even talking about a quiet Saturday morning and your
slippers while everyone else.
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Is asleep, Because I don't know what your life is like.
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But if I have to wait for those moments, if
I have to wait for that kind of peace, I'm
not gonna have.
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A very peaceful life.
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Now, there are two types of peace in the Bible
that we find. There's external peace and then there's internal peace.
And external peace refers to your relationships with others. Internal
peace refers to a mental perspective or an attitude towards.
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Your personal or your current trouble.
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And I need you to understand today that the two
are connected.
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They feed each other.
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So my external piece, my relationships with others, effects my
internal peace.
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But also my internal.
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Piece affects how I act and how I respond to others.
So both are really important. And if the enemy can't
get to your inner piece, he's gonna go after your
relational piece because he knows the external effects the internal,
and the internal effects the external. And he knows that
if he can steal your piece, then he can steal
your joy.
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Then he can get you to question.
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Your faith, and then it can get you to question
your calling. So if trouble is the common denominator of
all humans, then peace is.
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The X factor. It's the thing that sets us apart.
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It's the stabilizing force that allows you to push through
the trouble. And if the enemy can't get to your
inner piece. Then he's going to go after your relational piece.
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Do you understand that? And I want to.
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Illustrate this for you today, hopefully in a way that
you won't forget. I just read Philippians four. I meant
to read it out of my Bible. I always read
it off of my iPad, but I want to show you.
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In my Bible.
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So this is Philippians four, which is a letter that
was written to the apostle Paul, to.
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The church at Philippi. And maybe you know this, maybe
you don't, but.
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Paul wrote this letter from a p in cel in Rome.
But this is not the only letter that he wrote.
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He also wrote.
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Ephesians and Colossians, and they're all right here together. And
throughout these three letters, Paul has a lot to say
about peace because he's writing to the persecuted believers who
needed inner peace as well as the new believers who
needed external peace with one another. So I'm gonna come
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back to Philippians four, but I want to flip back
one page to Ephesian six to give you a vivid.
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Picture of peace, also written by Paul.
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So this is Ephesian six. We're going to start in
verse eleven. It says, put on the full armor of God,
so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes.
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but
against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of
this dark world, and against the spiritual forces of evil
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in the heavenly realms. Therefore, put on the full armor
of God, so when the day of evil comes, you
may be able to stand your ground. And after you
have done everything to stand, stand firm and with the
stand firm, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist,
with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your
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feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the.
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Gospel of Peace.
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Paul is painting this picture of a soultier getting ready
for battle because it's one thing to recognize that there
is an enemy. It's another thing to realize that you
have to get ready to fight.
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Back against the enemy.
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And you know, I think that one of the ways
that the enemy attacks us is by diverting our attention.
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You think your enemy is your boss, or your spouse,
or maybe your mother in law, not me.
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Some of us wake up in the morning, we're ready
for a fight with the wrong enemy. Paul says, our
struggle is not against people, it's not against flesh and blood.
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It is against.
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Spiritual forces in a heavenly realm.
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And you gotta get ready. And here's how you do it.
He says, you put on your armor.
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Now when we get dressed for the day, At least,
when I get dressed for the day, the last thing.
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I do is put my shoes on.
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But if you were putting on armor, like you know,
you're gonna have a breastplate and a shield and a sword,
your hands are.
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Gonna be tied up. So you gotta.
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Put your shoes on first, right, And Paul says that
our feet are fitted with the.
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Readiness that comes from the Gospel of peace.
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Look at your neighbor and say I'm ready. Now, look
down at their shoes and tell tell me how ready
you think they are.
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Oh my goodness, how many of you know?
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How many of you are looking at my shoes and
they're like, she ain't ready.
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Shoes matter. Steven and I have this funny thing that
we say.
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We got it from a like a book from several
years ago, and so we.
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Say to each other, did you shoes? Wisely?
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Like he was preaching at an event recently in Orlando,
and so we had to get up super early, and
we flew to the location, and we went straight from
the airport to the convention center.
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And by the time we got.
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To the hotel hours and hours later, he looked at
me in the elevator and he looked down at my shoes,
and he.
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Said, did you shoes wisely? I rarely do.
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I'm vain. I always go for fashion first.
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Like have you ever wondered why when I do the welcome,
Like if my chair is right there, why do I
not come up these stairs? Why do I walk all
the way around and come from the back. It's because
I'm always a little bit unstable in my vanity shoes.
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I just I just am, And I would never come
up these stairs because I'm so afraid that I'm just
gonna fall in front of everyone. Let me show you
my steadiest shoes that I own. I packed a bag
for this sermon, so reflect bag. These are my hiking boots.
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They are sturdy, and they are waterproof. And when I
have these shoes on, I really feel like I can
maybe walk for f not exactly, but the longest time
in these shoes.
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And Steven and I like to hike together.
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Now, if you're watching this and you live in Colorado,
you might call what we.
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Do walking in the woods, but it's.
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We live in North Carolina, and we actually, if you
think of Asheville, we lived like two hours from Ashville.
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So well, what we do, it's hiking to us.
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So we can drive about an hour west of our
house and find a good trail.
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That's not too long, not too steep.
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Enough for us to feel like we got out in
the great outdoors and got a little bit of exercise
and got home by dinner. And so I use this
app it's called All Trails, to find new trails, to
download the maps, and so the don't they make the
most amazing apps these days?
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There's app for everything.
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So the other day I wanted us to try a
new trail that I found is called the Baden Lake Trail.
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So we pull up, we drive. It's about an hour
and twenty minutes from our house.
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We pull up to the trail and it looks paved
from the car, and so I decided not to put
my boots on. Remember I fashioned first, so I'm not
gonna like. We went to lunch, so I wasn't gonna
wear these to lunch, so.
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They were in the in the car.
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I had my white hookahs on and I thought that
they would be fine.
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Maybe you can feel where this story is going.
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The trail was paved for about fifty yards.
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Rookie mistake.
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And we go hiking all the time, and normally, even
when we do a new trail, I'll read the reviews
about the trail just I don't know, just to see
if there's if it's a good one. And for some reason,
I didn't read the reviews.
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That time, and so I went back when I.
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Was preparing this sermon, and I looked up the reviews
of this particular trail, and I want to show.
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It to you.
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So it says, oh, it's got four point four stars
and a thousand people have reviewed this trail, And then
it says trailgoers are saying highlights include beautiful lake views,
a well marked trail, and it's dog friendly. Challenges are
muddy areas, rocky sections, and limited parking. Reviewers suggest sturdy
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footwear and bugscray guys.
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We walked over five.
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Miles and I was trying so hard to keep my
shoes white.
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So I was like, I.
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Was like hopping over puddles and like we were like
crossing creeks at times, and my feet were I know
some of you are like, well, you were in tennis shoes,
but my feet were like sliding all around in my
tennis shoes.
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And about mile three.
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I started to get a blister on the bottom of
one of my toes. And by the time we got
back to the car, I didn't want to complain, so
I was trying not to say anything.
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By the time we got to the car, I was
walking like this, and my shoes were so dirty. I
did not shoes. Wisely, we could again one more time
if you's in six point fifteen, it says, and.
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With your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from
the Gospel of peace.
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Paul is saying, there is a battle going on for
your very soul, and you have got to fight back,
and your first line of defense is to make sure
that your feet are stable with the Gospel of peace.
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So thank you. This is not peace. Don't judge me.
You steal the hotel slippers too. Also, this these, this
is not peace. This is peace.
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So some scholars say that Paul is making a reference
to the Sandals that the Roman soldiers wore and how
they were like specifically designed to go long distances and
to go over rough terrains.
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And actually they the Roman soldiers could like, oh, no,
my pants, I just tied my pants into the hold on.
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Guys, it's really hard to talk and tie your shoes
at the same time.
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Uh.
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The Roman soldiers they could, they could cover distances like
twice as fast as the other arm And a lot
of people say it was because they had spent a
lot of time on their shoes. They even put like
metal little tax on the bottom of them so that
they could they were more sturdy.
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Other people say.
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That Paul was referring to the prophecy from Isaiah when
he said, sorry, I have to look down here, when
he said, how beautiful are the feet on the mountains
that bring the good news? Let me tie this up
so I can stand up and tell you that I'm
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saying it's both. When you lace up with peace, you're
getting yourself ready for the fight that's ahead.
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And all the people that are watching you walk up
that mountain, they're gonna be amazed.
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They're gonna look at your life and they're gonna wonder,
how are you handling your circumstances, you're gonna You're gonna.
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Try and tell them that what you have is peace.
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But it's indescribable, it's not pretty, but it's what's holding
you up.
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And if you want to have.
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I'm gonna preach in these shoes the rest of the
time because they're way more comfortable.
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If you want to.
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Have any chance in this fight, you're gonna have to
operate from a place of peace.
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If you want to hold your.
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Peace, you gotta tie it on, you gotta double not it.
Look how steady I am. Now, Look, I can even
go up and down the stairs like Pastor Steven.
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When he preaches. And when I'm here you can't even
see my shoes.
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But when I go back up here, you can see
the full picture.
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I think life is like that, you.
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Know, like maybe there's someone you know that seems so peaceful.
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Do a close up again, and when you do a close.
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Up, you can there are things about me right now
you can't see because you're not getting the full picture
of preparation that I have done to handle whatever trouble
faces me. You see, you don't see my practices. You
don't see me double nodding my peace. So that I
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don't lose it with the people that I work with
or the people that I live with. All Right, now,
I want to go back to Philippians for and I
want to talk to you about the practices of peace.
So Paul gives us a picture in Ephesians, but now
in Philippians, he's going to give us a practice, and
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it says this, We're going to read the whole thing again.
Do not be anxious about event anything, but in every situation,
by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your request to God,
and the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will
guard your hearts and minds, and Christ.
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Jesus finally, Brothers and sisters.
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Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is.
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Pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is
excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. Whatever you have
learned or received or heard or seen in me, put
it into practice, and the God of.
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Peace will be with you.
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You see, I want you to know today that peace
follows practice. God's presence follows my practice, not the other
way around. And the truth is, no one likes the practice.
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Like just ask any fourteen year old in piano lessons?
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Are there any fourteen year olds and piano lessons in here? Oh?
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Abby?
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Verdict?
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Abby, would you like to play the piano as well
as Ella one day? Would you like to play the
piano as well as LJ one day?
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Okay, that's her goal, right Abby?
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How many hours of practice do you think they have
on you? She says, she is thousands, thousands, thousands of
hours of practice. When you see somebody who does something
really well, they have practiced it.
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So real quick as I close. Don't worry. I'm not
going to go super long.
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But I do want to show you things that you
need to practice if you want to hold your peace.
And I feel really silly in my boots, but I
hope that this will be a reminder to you. The
piece is not pretty and practice is not pretty. Practice
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is where you learn from your mistakes. It's not the place.
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Where you perform for others. Okay, So three things. First.
One is the practice of prayer.
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Sometimes, when I'm faced with a difficult situation, I'm going
to be honest with you, I do everything but pray.
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I talk about it. I worry about it.
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I worry about it and call it praying. I talk
about it some more, and then I start time traveling.
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Where any of you here?
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Last week my pastor Stephen said, don't time travel.
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I know that he made that point up about me.
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Because I am a professional time traveler. I go back
in time and I think of all the things that
I did wrong. The other day, I got in my
time machine and I told myself this elaborate story of
how something in my life today would have been so
different if I had said no to one question that
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someone asked me ten years ago, and if I had
said no.
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So I'm in the time machine and I'm just thinking
about that.
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I was like, if I had said no to that,
then this would have happened, and then this wouldn't have happened,
and then this would have happened.
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And I had pretty much convinced myself.
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That everything today is my fault. And so I said
to Stephen because I really was convinced, and I said
to him, I was like, do you ever wonder what
would have happened if I had said no to that
one situation?
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And my husband looked back at me and he was like, Holley,
you can't think that way.
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He said, you're going back and you're changing a past
situation with future information.
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He said, that's not fair to your past self.
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And furthermore, he doesn't actually say furthermore, but that just
makes his home his Furthermore, he said, you're not taking
into account all the things that could have happened if
you had said yes.
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He said, you're making up the perfect scenario.
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And life is not perfect, and you did the best
that you could with the information.
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That you had at that time.
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And maybe that's a word for someone today who's been
time traveling back and trying to.
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Do something over. But you know what, I'm so good
at time travel. I can also go forward in time.
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A situation happened with one of my kids recently, and
I got in my time machine. And the problem is
I read too much fiction, and so I know a
lot about time travel and time loops, and so is
off and I was like, well, what if this happens
while they're driving?
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And then what if this happens? And then what if
that happens?
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And then and I was so worried about a scenario
that was not even happening, And then I wonder.
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Why I feel anxious.
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Pastors even told us last week, all you have to
do is don't.
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And Paul is backing this up.
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He says, do not be anxious about anything, but by
prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your request to God,
and the peace that passes all understanding will guard your
hearts and minds and Christ Jesus. I feel like the
Lord sent me here today to tell someone don't talk
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about it any more. Like I say to my kids,
not another word out of your mouth. Take it to
the Lord in prayer, and no one else stop talking
about it. Yes, there are times when you rally praying
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people around you to believe.
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With you for a certain situation.
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I have a handful of women in my life who
have prayed me through some really hard stuff. But sometimes,
in all my running around and telling people to pray,
I neglect to actually pray. And Paul didn't say present
your request to people. He said, present your request to God,
and the peace of God that transcends all understanding will
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guard your hearts and minds and Christ Jesus. Sometimes we
want something so bad for someone we love, but we're
going about getting it all the wrong way. And I'm
telling you this because I have learned this the hard way,
and I still get it wrong.
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I have tried to manipulate situations.
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For people so that I love, and it is exhausting,
And then I wonder why I'm the only one who's worried.
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But here's the lesson that I have learned.
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When I want something for someone that I love, if
I take it to God, he will change them.
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Or he'll change my heart.
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Now, a miracle happened in our home last week. This
has been a miracle that is twenty three years in
the making for me. Stephen and I are about to
celebrate twenty three years of being happily married.
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Thank you. Please clap for.
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Us, because we've worked really hard at the happy part.
And I want you to know that what I'm about
to share has only come after twenty three years of
learning the hard way about the power that comes when
I hold my peace by practicing the work of prayer.
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So the other day Stephen.
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Woke up and he looked at me and he said, Babe,
I had the craziest dream last night.
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You were talking to me and you were saying the
nicest things to me, and you were encouraging.
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Me about that situation that we've been talking about. I
was speechless, which is rare when I tell you that
the things that he said I was saying to him
in his dream, they were the very things that I
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had been silently holding my peace about and only talking
to God about.
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And God, let me speak to that man in his sleep.
I've got to speak my peace.
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Guys, I have found that God can whisper in the
ear of the one that I love the very thing
that I have been shouting at them for months, or
this one's not as fun. He can whisper to me
that he has the situation in his hands, and he
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can give me a peace that.
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Only comes by prayer. Peace comes by the practice of prayer.
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The Bible also tells us that peace comes by the
practice of patterns. Watch for the pattern here Philippians four eight. Finally,
brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever
is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable,
if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think.
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About such things. Keep going. Whatever you have learned or received,
or heard from me or.
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Seen to me, put it into practice, and the God
of Peace will be with you.
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Do you see a pattern here? There is power in
our patterns.
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Our patterns will either accentuate the presence of God, or
they will diminish our awareness of it.
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It's not that God's presence comes and goes.
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He's always with us. He will never leave us or
forsake us. It's just my awareness of.
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His presence is affected by my patterns. How many of
you would agree that you've had a time when.
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You came to church or you joined online, and when
it was over.
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You just had a peace about your situation. Raise your hand,
I want to see wow. Okay, put in the chat.
Raise your hand in the chat. Okay. So if that's.
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True, my first question to you is, wouldn't you maybe
want to come to church a little bit more frequently,
a little more regularly, Like maybe if you come once
a month, you could bump it up to twice a month.
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Maybe if you come twice a month, you could bump
it up again.
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I'm just saying, you raised your hand and you said
you felt God's presence here when you joined us.
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What are your patterns?
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My second question is why would you limit the presence
of God to once a week at church?
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We have to look at our daily.
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Routines and habits and evaluate is this promoting peace in
my life?
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Or is it stealing it.
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For months, I have felt God asking me to do
this little thing.
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It's so stupid, Okay, but here's what it is.
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For months, I felt like God has been telling me
stop looking at Instagram first thing in the morning.
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Now he did not ask me to delete Instagram.
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He just said stop going on Instagram first thing in
the morning. And I have ignored it, and I have
told myself this is harmless, this is a way to
just wake up my brain. And I have told myself
that my feed is very light.
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It's not even news.
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It's like gender reveals and dogs doing cool things and
people falling down.
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And I told God. I was like, God, it's fine,
It's just like Kathine for my brain. I'm just like
using it to wake up. And then last week I
read this quote in a book by a priest.
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Her name is Tishwarren, and she said this, we've covered
a lot here. She said, by reaching for my smartphone
every morning, I had developed a ritual that trained me
toward a certain end entertainment and stimulation via tech achnology.
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She said, my unexamined daily habit was shaping me into
a worshiper of glowing screens.
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So they said, Okay, God, I hear you. I won't
look at Instagram anymore in the morning. Okay, full disclosure.
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I have relapsed once, but I'm back on the wagon.
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My wagons have wings.
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Does your morning practice promote the peace of God in
your life. I'm not saying that you can't play wordle
while you're drinking your coffee.
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I'm not saying that you.
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Have to wake up at five am and read your
Bible and journal for an hour.
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Before you start your day. What I am saying is
if you.
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Do that, that's wonderful. But I'm not a five am
kind of person. What I am saying is, if your
priority is a feed social media or news, you might
not feel very peace. Your peace and your priorities are
directly connected.
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What patterns do.
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You need to put in your life in order to
protect your peace, in order to make you more steady
as you face your day.
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Here's the last one, the practice of praise.
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Paul says, is there anything excellent or praiseworthy?
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Think about such things?
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If you want to steady yourself with the Gospel of Peace,
you're gonna have to fix your focus on the things
in your life that are worthy of praise.
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The things that come out of your mouth matter.
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I don't care what you say, It matters what you say.
Have you ever had a conversation turn negative and you
can literally feel it drag the mood down.
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It happens, but remember it's okay.
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Pieces practice and practice doesn't make perfect, but maybe in
this context, practice makes presence. So if we want to
feel the presence of God in our conversations, we have
to be careful about.
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What we say.
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I have a friend that I respect so much about
the way that she is careful about how she talks.
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Like sometimes to the point that I'm annoyed.
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By it, because she is so careful about how she
talks about her kids, how she talks about her spouse,
how she talks about her day. I mean, it is
really hard to get her to speak negatively, not only
to say something negative, but it's really hard to even
get her to talk about what she's afraid of.
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I want to be like that. And it's not that
she's like this perfect person.
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She's never honest and she never has a bad day,
but she is so careful not to let herself spiral
into negative talk and negative thoughts. She actually told me
that she read that it is scientifically proven that venting
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does not make you feel better.
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And it's weird because after she said that, I noticed that.
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Almost every time I vent, every time I just let
off the little steam, I feel worse because I say
things that I don't mean, and I exaggerate my situation
to a place that it hasn't even.
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Gotten to now.
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Processing processing is different from venting and processing with the
right person, like talk to your therapist, talk to your spouse,
talk to a friend that you trust. But make sure
that when you are processing that you begin to take
a turn and point your soul to whatever is good,
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whatever is noble, whatever is pure, whatever is true, whatever
is lovely, whatever is admirable, because you will find what
you are looking for.
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I know they get on your nerves.
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I know it feels like this situation could not get
any worse. I know you feel frustrated, but remember trouble
is the common denominator. You've got to get the X
factor of peace into play. And sometimes that means speaking
out loud what is praiseworthy. Sometimes that just means going, okay, God,
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I thank you that you were working in places that
I cannot see. God, I thank you that you are
bigger than this problem. God, I thank you that you
are my provider. I praise you because you are Jehovah Jirah.
You have never let me down. God, I thank you
that you are gonna give me wisdom and grace as
I move into this day, and when you begin to
speak the praises of God, you will sense that peace
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coming around.
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You for whatever is next.
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You don't have to go through this life anxious and
worried and unsteady. There is a piece that is available
to you, but it doesn't just fall into your lap.
You gotta grab it, got a hold tight to it,
You gotta strap it on, you.
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Gotta practice it.
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Isaiah said, how beautiful are the feet on the mountain
that proclaim the good news of peace. When you put
these things into practice, you will not only hold tightly
to your truth, but others will see it and they'll wonder,
and you'll try to explain it to them, but you can't.
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Corey Timboom, anybody know Corey Timboom, She's like one of
my heroes. She was a Holocaust survivor and she was
a Christian who was imprisoned because they hid Jews in
their house in Holland, and her sister and her were
sent to Ravensbrook, the concentration camp in Nazi Germany, and
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she survived to tell her story, and she traveled the
world and she preached the forgiveness of God. And she
told this story about how she and her sister had
a secret Bible study where they would speak out loud
the things that they could praise God for, and her
sister would make her praise God for they had a Bible,
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and she would make her praise God for the fleas
that were in the concentration camp, because the fleee kept
the guards out and and they, I mean, they just
went through the most horrific circumstances. And Corey wrote this
when she described their barracks one time, she said, there
was no way to walk to and from the meeting
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without passing through every row of bunks and at everyone.
I would see the light of God in the eyes
of people facing death, starvation, and cruelty in such a place.
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Peace was not just possible, it was real.
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And I want you to know today you might be
in your darkest hour, but you can have a peace,
have guard your heart and mind to an extent that
you cannot even explain how it is happening.
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You just you just know that it's real. We are
in a fight.
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It is a battle against spiritual enemies in heavenly realms
that we cannot even see, and we cannot go into
it unprepared and unaware. Paul said, if anything is excellent,
if anything is worthy of praise, sometimes the only way
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to hold your peace is to praise. Drown out the
noise of the evil one with songs of deliverance in
your home, in your car.
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At your desk.
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Maybe you've got to put on AirPods, drown out the
noise of the enemy with songs of.
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Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick.
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I'm the pastor of Elevation Church and this is our
podcast and I wanted to thank you for joining us today.
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Hope this inspires you. Hope it builds your faith.
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Hope it gives your perspective to see God has moving
in your life.
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Enjoy the message.
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Are you ready for the word today? I'm excited. Turn
in your Bible if you have one. If not, we'll
have it up here on the screens. To Philippians four,
starting in verse six. Has our pastor not been on
fire for the last several weeks? I mean like eight
nine weeks he's been preaching.
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He did the series called called did you enjoy That?
I mean, I don't know about you.
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But every single week this man brought a word for me.
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Did you have a favorite? I think my favorite was Martha? Martha,
but then I also.
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Like the one about Jacob with the wagons, and then
I like the one about Samuel.
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And it was like every week I was like, no,
this one's my favorite.
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And the last week he said, all you have to
do is don't and that really ministered to me. I
wish you could see how hard our pastor fights every
single week.
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He makes it look easy, but he fights so.
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Hard every week to bring us a relevant now word
for our church.
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Aren't you grateful for our pastor.
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So it's my turn this week, and I feel like
God has given me a word not just for all
of the moms here, but for everyone all right.
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So we're in Philippians four.
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Starting in verse six, it says this, do not be
anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition,
with thanksgiving, present your request to God.
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And the peace of.
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God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and
minds in Christ Jesus Finally, Brothers and sisters, whatever is true,
whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever
is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy,
think about such things.
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Whatever you have learned or received, or heard from me
or seen in me, put it into.
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Practice, and the God of Peace will be with you.
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Let's pray.
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Where we think you that your word is a lamp
into our feet and a light into our path.
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God, we open up our hearts to hear from you today. Lord.
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We know that sometimes Mother's Day can be a day
that is painful.
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But we're here, Lord, and we want to hear from you.
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Would you shine your light in the darkest areas of
our hearts today?
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Lord use me. Now it's in your name, I pray Amen.
All right, So.
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We have a little problem with the DNA in the
Verdict family. See, I am a very opinionated, like there
is a right and a wrong kind of person. And
then I married Stephen Ferdick, who was a very opinionated
there is a right and a kind of person. So
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together we make a great team when it comes to
proclaiming the word of God.
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Now I'm not a genetic expert.
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I never really understood that little box with the geen thing.
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I don't even remember what it's called. What is it called?
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Graham Punnet Square? Junior accolade right here?
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So I don't know anything.
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About the Punnett Square, but I can tell you that
when Stephen and Holly Ferdick made babies, we managed to
produce three of the most opinionated there is a right
and wrong, and I need to make sure that it's
clear kind of people. So all five of us together
we have a problem. And when a disagreement occurs in
our family.
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Which is rare, because we're a pastor's family.
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We each have this just innate desire to have the
last word.
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I know this is not a problem in your house,
but this is a problem in my house.
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So the other day, the.
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Weather was nice, and Steven and Abby and I we
were having dinner on.
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Our peaceful porch. And earlier that day.
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I had asked my friend Ashley, whose children go to
the same school as Abby, if she could bring Abby
home for me. And so we're having dinner and Abby
starts talking about her afternoon, as she often does, and
she started in and talking about how Ashley had Chick
fil A waiting for her in the car because they
had to kill an hour until Abby was dismissed. Now,
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Ashley's kids are in the same school Abby, but they're
in the lower school and they get out like.
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Twenty minutes before Abby.
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So I needed to stop the story right there, because
I would never inconvenience someone as to make them wait
an hour to pick up my child. So I had
to interrupt story. And I said, no, they get out
at two thirty and.
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You get out at two fifty five.
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And she said, no, they get out at two and
I get out at two fifty five, and I said.
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No, they get out at two thirty.
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And she said, Mom, I think I would know what
time we get out of school. And Stephen said, guys,
does this fact really even matter?
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We're having a peaceful meal here.
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So I held my tongue and Abby proceeded with her story.
And while she was talking, I went on the school
website and I grabbed a screenshot of the school's dismissal
times and I sent that off to her. And just
in case you were wondering, they get out at two
thirty and Abby gets out at two fifty five. The
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title of my sermon today is hold your Peace. You
like that? And I want to talk to you about
the power of peace in your life. And I want
to show you that sometimes in order, sometimes you have
to hold your peace in order to hold your peace, okay.
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And I want you to know that you can have peace,
biblical peace in your.
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Mind and in your relationships, no matter what is going
on in the world around you.
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As a believer in Christ, we have access to.
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A type of peace that Paul is telling us in
this scripture that cannot even be explained. He says, it
transcends all understanding peace in the midst of your pain,
Peace in the midst of your circumstances, Peace in the midst.
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Of your disappointment. It is a benefit of knowing Jesus.
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Jesus said to his disciples in John sixteen three. He said,
I have told you these things so that in me
you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble.
But take heart, I have overcome the world. You see,
Peace is not the absence of problems in your life,
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Jesus said, in this.
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World you will have trouble.
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So trouble is the common denominator of every person who
has breath in their lungs. Peace is the addition of
power to whatever trouble that you're in.
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So before we go any further.
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I need to clear up exactly what kind of peace
I'm talking about.
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I'm not talking.
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About a mood or a mental state where everything feels well.
I'm not talking about a spa or a vacation spot.
Not even talking about a quiet Saturday morning and your
slippers while everyone else.
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Is asleep, Because I don't know what your life is like.
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But if I have to wait for those moments, if
I have to wait for that kind of peace, I'm
not gonna have.
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A very peaceful life.
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Now, there are two types of peace in the Bible
that we find. There's external peace and then there's internal peace.
And external peace refers to your relationships with others. Internal
peace refers to a mental perspective or an attitude towards.
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Your personal or your current trouble.
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And I need you to understand today that the two
are connected.
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They feed each other.
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So my external piece, my relationships with others, effects my
internal peace.
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But also my internal.
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Piece affects how I act and how I respond to others.
So both are really important. And if the enemy can't
get to your inner piece, he's gonna go after your
relational piece because he knows the external effects the internal,
and the internal effects the external. And he knows that
if he can steal your piece, then he can steal
your joy.
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Then he can get you to question.
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Your faith, and then it can get you to question
your calling. So if trouble is the common denominator of
all humans, then peace is.
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The X factor. It's the thing that sets us apart.
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It's the stabilizing force that allows you to push through
the trouble. And if the enemy can't get to your
inner piece. Then he's going to go after your relational piece.
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Do you understand that? And I want to.
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Illustrate this for you today, hopefully in a way that
you won't forget. I just read Philippians four. I meant
to read it out of my Bible. I always read
it off of my iPad, but I want to show you.
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In my Bible.
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So this is Philippians four, which is a letter that
was written to the apostle Paul, to.
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The church at Philippi. And maybe you know this, maybe
you don't, but.
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Paul wrote this letter from a p in cel in Rome.
But this is not the only letter that he wrote.
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He also wrote.
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Ephesians and Colossians, and they're all right here together. And
throughout these three letters, Paul has a lot to say
about peace because he's writing to the persecuted believers who
needed inner peace as well as the new believers who
needed external peace with one another. So I'm gonna come
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back to Philippians four, but I want to flip back
one page to Ephesian six to give you a vivid.
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Picture of peace, also written by Paul.
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So this is Ephesian six. We're going to start in
verse eleven. It says, put on the full armor of God,
so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes.
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but
against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of
this dark world, and against the spiritual forces of evil
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in the heavenly realms. Therefore, put on the full armor
of God, so when the day of evil comes, you
may be able to stand your ground. And after you
have done everything to stand, stand firm and with the
stand firm, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist,
with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your
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feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the.
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Gospel of Peace.
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Paul is painting this picture of a soultier getting ready
for battle because it's one thing to recognize that there
is an enemy. It's another thing to realize that you
have to get ready to fight.
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Back against the enemy.
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And you know, I think that one of the ways
that the enemy attacks us is by diverting our attention.
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You think your enemy is your boss, or your spouse,
or maybe your mother in law, not me.
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Some of us wake up in the morning, we're ready
for a fight with the wrong enemy. Paul says, our
struggle is not against people, it's not against flesh and blood.
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It is against.
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Spiritual forces in a heavenly realm.
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And you gotta get ready. And here's how you do it.
He says, you put on your armor.
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Now when we get dressed for the day, At least,
when I get dressed for the day, the last thing.
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I do is put my shoes on.
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But if you were putting on armor, like you know,
you're gonna have a breastplate and a shield and a sword,
your hands are.
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Gonna be tied up. So you gotta.
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Put your shoes on first, right, And Paul says that
our feet are fitted with the.
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Readiness that comes from the Gospel of peace.
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Look at your neighbor and say I'm ready. Now, look
down at their shoes and tell tell me how ready
you think they are.
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Oh my goodness, how many of you know?
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How many of you are looking at my shoes and
they're like, she ain't ready.
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Shoes matter. Steven and I have this funny thing that
we say.
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We got it from a like a book from several
years ago, and so we.
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Say to each other, did you shoes? Wisely?
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Like he was preaching at an event recently in Orlando,
and so we had to get up super early, and
we flew to the location, and we went straight from
the airport to the convention center.
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And by the time we got.
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To the hotel hours and hours later, he looked at
me in the elevator and he looked down at my shoes,
and he.
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Said, did you shoes wisely? I rarely do.
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I'm vain. I always go for fashion first.
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Like have you ever wondered why when I do the welcome,
Like if my chair is right there, why do I
not come up these stairs? Why do I walk all
the way around and come from the back. It's because
I'm always a little bit unstable in my vanity shoes.
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I just I just am, And I would never come
up these stairs because I'm so afraid that I'm just
gonna fall in front of everyone. Let me show you
my steadiest shoes that I own. I packed a bag
for this sermon, so reflect bag. These are my hiking boots.
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They are sturdy, and they are waterproof. And when I
have these shoes on, I really feel like I can
maybe walk for f not exactly, but the longest time
in these shoes.
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And Steven and I like to hike together.
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Now, if you're watching this and you live in Colorado,
you might call what we.
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Do walking in the woods, but it's.
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We live in North Carolina, and we actually, if you
think of Asheville, we lived like two hours from Ashville.
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So well, what we do, it's hiking to us.
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So we can drive about an hour west of our
house and find a good trail.
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That's not too long, not too steep.
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Enough for us to feel like we got out in
the great outdoors and got a little bit of exercise
and got home by dinner. And so I use this
app it's called All Trails, to find new trails, to
download the maps, and so the don't they make the
most amazing apps these days?
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There's app for everything.
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So the other day I wanted us to try a
new trail that I found is called the Baden Lake Trail.
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So we pull up, we drive. It's about an hour
and twenty minutes from our house.
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We pull up to the trail and it looks paved
from the car, and so I decided not to put
my boots on. Remember I fashioned first, so I'm not
gonna like. We went to lunch, so I wasn't gonna
wear these to lunch, so.
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They were in the in the car.
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I had my white hookahs on and I thought that
they would be fine.
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Maybe you can feel where this story is going.
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The trail was paved for about fifty yards.
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Rookie mistake.
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And we go hiking all the time, and normally, even
when we do a new trail, I'll read the reviews
about the trail just I don't know, just to see
if there's if it's a good one. And for some reason,
I didn't read the reviews.
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That time, and so I went back when I.
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Was preparing this sermon, and I looked up the reviews
of this particular trail, and I want to show.
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It to you.
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So it says, oh, it's got four point four stars
and a thousand people have reviewed this trail, And then
it says trailgoers are saying highlights include beautiful lake views,
a well marked trail, and it's dog friendly. Challenges are
muddy areas, rocky sections, and limited parking. Reviewers suggest sturdy
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footwear and bugscray guys.
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We walked over five.
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Miles and I was trying so hard to keep my
shoes white.
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So I was like, I.
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Was like hopping over puddles and like we were like
crossing creeks at times, and my feet were I know
some of you are like, well, you were in tennis shoes,
but my feet were like sliding all around in my
tennis shoes.
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And about mile three.
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I started to get a blister on the bottom of
one of my toes. And by the time we got
back to the car, I didn't want to complain, so
I was trying not to say anything.
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By the time we got to the car, I was
walking like this, and my shoes were so dirty. I
did not shoes. Wisely, we could again one more time
if you's in six point fifteen, it says, and.
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With your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from
the Gospel of peace.
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Paul is saying, there is a battle going on for
your very soul, and you have got to fight back,
and your first line of defense is to make sure
that your feet are stable with the Gospel of peace.
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So thank you. This is not peace. Don't judge me.
You steal the hotel slippers too. Also, this these, this
is not peace. This is peace.
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So some scholars say that Paul is making a reference
to the Sandals that the Roman soldiers wore and how
they were like specifically designed to go long distances and
to go over rough terrains.
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And actually they the Roman soldiers could like, oh, no,
my pants, I just tied my pants into the hold on.
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Guys, it's really hard to talk and tie your shoes
at the same time.
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Uh.
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The Roman soldiers they could, they could cover distances like
twice as fast as the other arm And a lot
of people say it was because they had spent a
lot of time on their shoes. They even put like
metal little tax on the bottom of them so that
they could they were more sturdy.
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Other people say.
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That Paul was referring to the prophecy from Isaiah when
he said, sorry, I have to look down here, when
he said, how beautiful are the feet on the mountains
that bring the good news? Let me tie this up
so I can stand up and tell you that I'm
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saying it's both. When you lace up with peace, you're
getting yourself ready for the fight that's ahead.
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And all the people that are watching you walk up
that mountain, they're gonna be amazed.
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They're gonna look at your life and they're gonna wonder,
how are you handling your circumstances, you're gonna You're gonna.
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Try and tell them that what you have is peace.
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But it's indescribable, it's not pretty, but it's what's holding
you up.
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And if you want to have.
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I'm gonna preach in these shoes the rest of the
time because they're way more comfortable.
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If you want to.
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Have any chance in this fight, you're gonna have to
operate from a place of peace.
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If you want to hold your.
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Peace, you gotta tie it on, you gotta double not it.
Look how steady I am. Now, Look, I can even
go up and down the stairs like Pastor Steven.
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When he preaches. And when I'm here you can't even
see my shoes.
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But when I go back up here, you can see
the full picture.
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I think life is like that, you.
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Know, like maybe there's someone you know that seems so peaceful.
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Do a close up again, and when you do a close.
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Up, you can there are things about me right now
you can't see because you're not getting the full picture
of preparation that I have done to handle whatever trouble
faces me. You see, you don't see my practices. You
don't see me double nodding my peace. So that I
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don't lose it with the people that I work with
or the people that I live with. All Right, now,
I want to go back to Philippians for and I
want to talk to you about the practices of peace.
So Paul gives us a picture in Ephesians, but now
in Philippians, he's going to give us a practice, and
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it says this, We're going to read the whole thing again.
Do not be anxious about event anything, but in every situation,
by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your request to God,
and the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will
guard your hearts and minds, and Christ.
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Jesus finally, Brothers and sisters.
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Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is.
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Pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is
excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. Whatever you have
learned or received or heard or seen in me, put
it into practice, and the God of.
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Peace will be with you.
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You see, I want you to know today that peace
follows practice. God's presence follows my practice, not the other
way around. And the truth is, no one likes the practice.
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Like just ask any fourteen year old in piano lessons?
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Are there any fourteen year olds and piano lessons in here? Oh?
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Abby?
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Verdict?
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Abby, would you like to play the piano as well
as Ella one day? Would you like to play the
piano as well as LJ one day?
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Okay, that's her goal, right Abby?
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How many hours of practice do you think they have
on you? She says, she is thousands, thousands, thousands of
hours of practice. When you see somebody who does something
really well, they have practiced it.
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So real quick as I close. Don't worry. I'm not
going to go super long.
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But I do want to show you things that you
need to practice if you want to hold your peace.
And I feel really silly in my boots, but I
hope that this will be a reminder to you. The
piece is not pretty and practice is not pretty. Practice
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is where you learn from your mistakes. It's not the place.
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Where you perform for others. Okay, So three things. First.
One is the practice of prayer.
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Sometimes, when I'm faced with a difficult situation, I'm going
to be honest with you, I do everything but pray.
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I talk about it. I worry about it.
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I worry about it and call it praying. I talk
about it some more, and then I start time traveling.
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Where any of you here?
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Last week my pastor Stephen said, don't time travel.
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I know that he made that point up about me.
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Because I am a professional time traveler. I go back
in time and I think of all the things that
I did wrong. The other day, I got in my
time machine and I told myself this elaborate story of
how something in my life today would have been so
different if I had said no to one question that
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someone asked me ten years ago, and if I had
said no.
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So I'm in the time machine and I'm just thinking
about that.
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I was like, if I had said no to that,
then this would have happened, and then this wouldn't have happened,
and then this would have happened.
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And I had pretty much convinced myself.
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That everything today is my fault. And so I said
to Stephen because I really was convinced, and I said
to him, I was like, do you ever wonder what
would have happened if I had said no to that
one situation?
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And my husband looked back at me and he was like, Holley,
you can't think that way.
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He said, you're going back and you're changing a past
situation with future information.
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He said, that's not fair to your past self.
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And furthermore, he doesn't actually say furthermore, but that just
makes his home his Furthermore, he said, you're not taking
into account all the things that could have happened if
you had said yes.
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He said, you're making up the perfect scenario.
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And life is not perfect, and you did the best
that you could with the information.
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That you had at that time.
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And maybe that's a word for someone today who's been
time traveling back and trying to.
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Do something over. But you know what, I'm so good
at time travel. I can also go forward in time.
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A situation happened with one of my kids recently, and
I got in my time machine. And the problem is
I read too much fiction, and so I know a
lot about time travel and time loops, and so is
off and I was like, well, what if this happens
while they're driving?
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And then what if this happens? And then what if
that happens?
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And then and I was so worried about a scenario
that was not even happening, And then I wonder.
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Why I feel anxious.
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Pastors even told us last week, all you have to
do is don't.
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And Paul is backing this up.
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He says, do not be anxious about anything, but by
prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your request to God,
and the peace that passes all understanding will guard your
hearts and minds and Christ Jesus. I feel like the
Lord sent me here today to tell someone don't talk
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about it any more. Like I say to my kids,
not another word out of your mouth. Take it to
the Lord in prayer, and no one else stop talking
about it. Yes, there are times when you rally praying
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people around you to believe.
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With you for a certain situation.
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I have a handful of women in my life who
have prayed me through some really hard stuff. But sometimes,
in all my running around and telling people to pray,
I neglect to actually pray. And Paul didn't say present
your request to people. He said, present your request to God,
and the peace of God that transcends all understanding will
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guard your hearts and minds and Christ Jesus. Sometimes we
want something so bad for someone we love, but we're
going about getting it all the wrong way. And I'm
telling you this because I have learned this the hard way,
and I still get it wrong.
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I have tried to manipulate situations.
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For people so that I love, and it is exhausting,
And then I wonder why I'm the only one who's worried.
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But here's the lesson that I have learned.
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When I want something for someone that I love, if
I take it to God, he will change them.
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Or he'll change my heart.
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Now, a miracle happened in our home last week. This
has been a miracle that is twenty three years in
the making for me. Stephen and I are about to
celebrate twenty three years of being happily married.
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Thank you. Please clap for.
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Us, because we've worked really hard at the happy part.
And I want you to know that what I'm about
to share has only come after twenty three years of
learning the hard way about the power that comes when
I hold my peace by practicing the work of prayer.
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So the other day Stephen.
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Woke up and he looked at me and he said, Babe,
I had the craziest dream last night.
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You were talking to me and you were saying the
nicest things to me, and you were encouraging.
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Me about that situation that we've been talking about. I
was speechless, which is rare when I tell you that
the things that he said I was saying to him
in his dream, they were the very things that I
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had been silently holding my peace about and only talking
to God about.
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And God, let me speak to that man in his sleep.
I've got to speak my peace.
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Guys, I have found that God can whisper in the
ear of the one that I love the very thing
that I have been shouting at them for months, or
this one's not as fun. He can whisper to me
that he has the situation in his hands, and he
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can give me a peace that.
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Only comes by prayer. Peace comes by the practice of prayer.
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The Bible also tells us that peace comes by the
practice of patterns. Watch for the pattern here Philippians four eight. Finally,
brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever
is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable,
if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think.
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About such things. Keep going. Whatever you have learned or received,
or heard from me or.
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Seen to me, put it into practice, and the God
of Peace will be with you.
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Do you see a pattern here? There is power in
our patterns.
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Our patterns will either accentuate the presence of God, or
they will diminish our awareness of it.
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It's not that God's presence comes and goes.
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He's always with us. He will never leave us or
forsake us. It's just my awareness of.
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His presence is affected by my patterns. How many of
you would agree that you've had a time when.
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You came to church or you joined online, and when
it was over.
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You just had a peace about your situation. Raise your hand,
I want to see wow. Okay, put in the chat.
Raise your hand in the chat. Okay. So if that's.
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True, my first question to you is, wouldn't you maybe
want to come to church a little bit more frequently,
a little more regularly, Like maybe if you come once
a month, you could bump it up to twice a month.
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Maybe if you come twice a month, you could bump
it up again.
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I'm just saying, you raised your hand and you said
you felt God's presence here when you joined us.
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What are your patterns?
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My second question is why would you limit the presence
of God to once a week at church?
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We have to look at our daily.
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Routines and habits and evaluate is this promoting peace in
my life?
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Or is it stealing it.
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For months, I have felt God asking me to do
this little thing.
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It's so stupid, Okay, but here's what it is.
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For months, I felt like God has been telling me
stop looking at Instagram first thing in the morning.
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Now he did not ask me to delete Instagram.
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He just said stop going on Instagram first thing in
the morning. And I have ignored it, and I have
told myself this is harmless, this is a way to
just wake up my brain. And I have told myself
that my feed is very light.
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It's not even news.
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It's like gender reveals and dogs doing cool things and
people falling down.
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And I told God. I was like, God, it's fine,
It's just like Kathine for my brain. I'm just like
using it to wake up. And then last week I
read this quote in a book by a priest.
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Her name is Tishwarren, and she said this, we've covered
a lot here. She said, by reaching for my smartphone
every morning, I had developed a ritual that trained me
toward a certain end entertainment and stimulation via tech achnology.
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She said, my unexamined daily habit was shaping me into
a worshiper of glowing screens.
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So they said, Okay, God, I hear you. I won't
look at Instagram anymore in the morning. Okay, full disclosure.
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I have relapsed once, but I'm back on the wagon.
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My wagons have wings.
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Does your morning practice promote the peace of God in
your life. I'm not saying that you can't play wordle
while you're drinking your coffee.
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I'm not saying that you.
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Have to wake up at five am and read your
Bible and journal for an hour.
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Before you start your day. What I am saying is
if you.
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Do that, that's wonderful. But I'm not a five am
kind of person. What I am saying is, if your
priority is a feed social media or news, you might
not feel very peace. Your peace and your priorities are
directly connected.
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What patterns do.
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You need to put in your life in order to
protect your peace, in order to make you more steady
as you face your day.
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Here's the last one, the practice of praise.
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Paul says, is there anything excellent or praiseworthy?
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Think about such things?
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If you want to steady yourself with the Gospel of Peace,
you're gonna have to fix your focus on the things
in your life that are worthy of praise.
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The things that come out of your mouth matter.
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I don't care what you say, It matters what you say.
Have you ever had a conversation turn negative and you
can literally feel it drag the mood down.
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It happens, but remember it's okay.
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Pieces practice and practice doesn't make perfect, but maybe in
this context, practice makes presence. So if we want to
feel the presence of God in our conversations, we have
to be careful about.
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What we say.
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I have a friend that I respect so much about
the way that she is careful about how she talks.
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Like sometimes to the point that I'm annoyed.
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By it, because she is so careful about how she
talks about her kids, how she talks about her spouse,
how she talks about her day. I mean, it is
really hard to get her to speak negatively, not only
to say something negative, but it's really hard to even
get her to talk about what she's afraid of.
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I want to be like that. And it's not that
she's like this perfect person.
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She's never honest and she never has a bad day,
but she is so careful not to let herself spiral
into negative talk and negative thoughts. She actually told me
that she read that it is scientifically proven that venting
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does not make you feel better.
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And it's weird because after she said that, I noticed that.
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Almost every time I vent, every time I just let
off the little steam, I feel worse because I say
things that I don't mean, and I exaggerate my situation
to a place that it hasn't even.
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Gotten to now.
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Processing processing is different from venting and processing with the
right person, like talk to your therapist, talk to your spouse,
talk to a friend that you trust. But make sure
that when you are processing that you begin to take
a turn and point your soul to whatever is good,
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whatever is noble, whatever is pure, whatever is true, whatever
is lovely, whatever is admirable, because you will find what
you are looking for.
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I know they get on your nerves.
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I know it feels like this situation could not get
any worse. I know you feel frustrated, but remember trouble
is the common denominator. You've got to get the X
factor of peace into play. And sometimes that means speaking
out loud what is praiseworthy. Sometimes that just means going, okay, God,
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I thank you that you were working in places that
I cannot see. God, I thank you that you are
bigger than this problem. God, I thank you that you
are my provider. I praise you because you are Jehovah Jirah.
You have never let me down. God, I thank you
that you are gonna give me wisdom and grace as
I move into this day, and when you begin to
speak the praises of God, you will sense that peace
(40:49):
coming around.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
You for whatever is next.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
You don't have to go through this life anxious and
worried and unsteady. There is a piece that is available
to you, but it doesn't just fall into your lap.
You gotta grab it, got a hold tight to it,
You gotta strap it on, you.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Gotta practice it.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
Isaiah said, how beautiful are the feet on the mountain
that proclaim the good news of peace. When you put
these things into practice, you will not only hold tightly
to your truth, but others will see it and they'll wonder,
and you'll try to explain it to them, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Corey Timboom, anybody know Corey Timboom, She's like one of
my heroes. She was a Holocaust survivor and she was
a Christian who was imprisoned because they hid Jews in
their house in Holland, and her sister and her were
sent to Ravensbrook, the concentration camp in Nazi Germany, and
(41:55):
she survived to tell her story, and she traveled the
world and she preached the forgiveness of God. And she
told this story about how she and her sister had
a secret Bible study where they would speak out loud
the things that they could praise God for, and her
sister would make her praise God for they had a Bible,
(42:17):
and she would make her praise God for the fleas
that were in the concentration camp, because the fleee kept
the guards out and and they, I mean, they just
went through the most horrific circumstances. And Corey wrote this
when she described their barracks one time, she said, there
was no way to walk to and from the meeting
(42:40):
without passing through every row of bunks and at everyone.
I would see the light of God in the eyes
of people facing death, starvation, and cruelty in such a place.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Peace was not just possible, it was real.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
And I want you to know today you might be
in your darkest hour, but you can have a peace,
have guard your heart and mind to an extent that
you cannot even explain how it is happening.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
You just you just know that it's real. We are
in a fight.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
It is a battle against spiritual enemies in heavenly realms
that we cannot even see, and we cannot go into
it unprepared and unaware. Paul said, if anything is excellent,
if anything is worthy of praise, sometimes the only way
(43:39):
to hold your peace is to praise. Drown out the
noise of the evil one with songs of deliverance in
your home, in your car.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
At your desk.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Maybe you've got to put on AirPods, drown out the
noise of the enemy with songs of.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
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