Jeremy Roenick discusses Maple Leafs-Panthers, playoffs, making the Hall of Fame

Energy Line with Nate Thompson and Julie Stewart-Binks open up the show talking about Julie’s experience at the Game 5 blowout in Toronto and Nate’s WHL broadcasting adventures. Hockey Hall of Famer Jeremy Roenick then joins Nate and JSB. Roenick discusses getting into the Hall of Fame, what has changed in his life the past few years, reacting to the Flyers hiring Rick Tocchet, the Maple Leafs being down 3-2 and why they don’t have that killer instinct over the Panthers. The Hall of Famer also gets into the Tkachuck brothers, seeing them growing up when playing with their dad, what makes them so special, the best hockey broadcasters now and paving the way and how he sees the rest of the playoffs going.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Energy Line is a production of the NHL and I
Heeart podcasts.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
The kids don't want it.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
They don't skate, they don't score, they don't hit, they
don't fight.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
They float, they don't love to one, they don't hate
to lose.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Welcome on into the Energy Line with Nate and JSP.
I'm Julie start Banks. He he's former NHL are Nate Thompson,
and we've got two series down, two to go. The
Oilers are headed to the Western Conference Final, Hurricanes off
to the Eastern Conference Final, and now we wait for
the finishes. Oh God to Leafs Panthers and Stars Jets.
They're both three two. We're gonna get into all of

(00:50):
that and work with Hockey Hall of Famer Jeremy Ronick
and just a bit. Energy Line is a production of
the NHL and I Heeart podcasts and Nate As we
join each other once again here this is after I
was lucky and fortunate enough to witness history in Game
five in Toronto.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Please, Julie, don't even ask me a question right now.
Before you even ask me anything, I'm going to ask you,
how was your overall experience to the Leafs game?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
With you, you went with your cousin.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Right, you say, yeah, I promised my cousins at Christmas
because I didn't have any gifts for them. I was like,
I'll take you guys to the Leafs game this year,
which happened to be that one, and I didn't. I got.
All things considered, I paid a decent amount of money
in like that. It wasn't like I almost splurged for

(01:48):
tickets like on the glass because I was like, whatever,
let's just go, Let's just go all out. And thank
god I didn't do that. I would have been down
like four grand or something like real USD not even CAD.
So I was like, great, got some good seats. Boys
were so pumped, you know. I felt like, you know,

(02:10):
Big Jay Julie over here with my cousins them thinking
I'm cool, like I took them to a Leafs playoffs game.
They just that team did not show up the way
we showed up. I'm just gonna say, I know you're sober,
but I'm thankful for alcohol for that game, right, I know.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I mean I didn't even watch the whole game, but
I watched part of it, and yeah, I guess it
would have had me relapsed too watching that.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
I mean, it was, yeah, there was.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
It was just like okay, okay, okay. It was the
best part about being in person and like having alcohol
is you really do forget a lot of the game
and you miss it. Like the next day we were
all texting, We're like, oh wow, remember I forgot when
Matt Murray came into the game. But we we stayed
till the end. We did not leave. My cousin got

(03:04):
on the jumbotrono when it was six nothing and we
were we were going for it. We were We then
just started being like we kept saying one more goal
before I die, or just one goal before I die,
because you'll everyone says one cup before I die. For
the Leafs, we were like one goal. And then when
Nick Robertson scored, we were like wow, and then we
just were We just then started having like you know what,

(03:25):
if these boys are going to do this to us,
We're just still gonna have a good temp. We're gonna
have a great time. People around us were not happy.
I have like a video I took of this guy
who was sitting in front of me and it was
just too perfect. His screen was so big with his
font and it was like someone who messaged him was
just like, Wow, I can't I can't watch this game anymore.

(03:45):
And he was like imagine being at it, like with
like a scream face and all this. I was like,
that's exactly like you kind of felt like it was
a you're being tortured and the irony of like the
one game in Toronto I go to this year is
like the one that it felt like a trip dumb
memory lane. To be honest, it was like, ah, yeah,

(04:06):
like I'm going back to my hometown and the Leafs
are gonna play exactly how they played my entire life
of all I've ever known, But you know what, it
felt like they had disassociated. I tweeted that. I was like,
something about them is like they have the yips. They're
afraid to make a pass, They're afraid to shoot the
puck because I felt like they're afraid to shoot the

(04:27):
puck because of it bouncing off a guy and then
boom other way Florida on the rush scores. Like that's
how it felt. Very timid.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, they played.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Scared to lose, scared to lose, That's how they played.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
But like you know what I would say, and there's
a lot of criticism of them, like how could you
not be scared to lose if you played for the
Toronto my belaefs, Like how could you not be scared
to just like take a step outside? Like this team
is under I know. It's like, oh they should know,
you know, blah blah, this is not like this doesn't
happen in Florida, Like this doesn't happen in Dallas. These

(05:02):
guys like they have like a microscope, a telescope on them,
people watching their every goddamn move, you know, And it's like,
we don't know if in that locker room they do
have a lot of heart and they are like boys,
get the fuck up, Like we don't know because we
just assume that they don't care, because I mean.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Agree with you on that one, and I think it's
you're looking at it both ways.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I think if you.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Have to look at it too, if you're them, if
you're the Toronto may beliefs, like what an opportunity to win,
to go on to the conference finals and you are
the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I know, like imagine, like we we've talked about that.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Imagine that fucking city. I know, if you're going to
the Cup finals.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
If you're the Toronto.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Maple Leafs, like you want to be part of that
team that does that absolutely, and you should be like
if I if okay, so I'm gonna I'm gonna cause
play as a Toronto belief. If I'm in the room
and I'm hearing all media talking about me being like,
well they don't care and Dan, Dan, I'd be like,
fuck you, I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna
fucking prove you wrong. And I'm gonna go like crush

(06:07):
Brad Marshawan and I'm gonna go do like you know,
I would be like rearing to go just to prove
everyone around, not like oh God, but I will say
it's like, man, this this series has gone just that
that was that was like the newest low. I think
that was the lowest low I've really ever seen. Like

(06:27):
the expectation versus the outcome. It was like, oh my god,
like can they not play Game six?

Speaker 3 (06:37):
The good news is and I'll say this, Julie, this
is the good news, all right, And it's I think
this is from the past.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Right.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
You look at the Leafs and usually those games that
they play that kind of game is an elimination game. Yeah,
most of the time, right the games that they laiden Egg,
it's where they are eliminated. The good news is that
was not an elimination game for them, and now they
still have a chance to respond and bring it back
home for game seven.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
That is the good news and the silver lining in this.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
And you know what they will do. They will win
game six and they will have a Game seven and
they will just fucking blow it up.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well, let's not get.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Out they get it's the hope that kills you. That's
like from you know, everyone says and Ted Lasso, it's
just like, it's the hope that kills you.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
We're going to get in trouble if we keep talking
about the leaves here. You know what. It's fine, fine,
it's fine, though.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's fine because people I think are realized. I mean
that that's the reality right now. And I was on
the game, and I was, and you were you were,
and I spent about as many podcasts as we've done
money to go.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
So, uh, I feel your I feel your pain. I
do I feel it. I feel it right through the screen.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
No, it's fine, it's fine. I had a great time.
I had way too many wobbly pops. So then I
had to go fly the next day back to New
York and I remember just picking up like a Toronto
Star and I was like, oh, yeah, that happened last night,
Like holy crap. I forgot that. The leafs like just
laid an egg. And I was at it because I

(08:14):
thankfully had a lot of Wilson Canadians, which I'm also
feeling right now because I went to agala last night
and we talked about it. Okay, I told you this
right before we came on. I have to mention this.
I went to a gala because of Levan York City,
and it's like, you know, very I gots up girl
here and I met these guys like they were like

(08:34):
they were twenty five. I felt like I was like,
I need to leave this place. They said, they're like,
where are you from. I'm like Toronto. They're like, oh,
I can't wait for Mitch Marner to be a Bruin
And I was like boom. I fucking loved it. I
was like, yes, these guys don't know I'm a sports
reporter or anything like that. I was like, I'm so
happy I'm at this, like really nice art gallery in

(08:56):
New York, and I get to talk about hockey with
people I don't know, and then they're referencing the Spinorama
Pass and like I was just like, let's like go,
I'm curious. So, I mean Marner, he's gotta like, do
you think he's I mean, this guy's postseason seems to
be a little bit of a precarious situation. Do you

(09:20):
think he even wants to be in Toronto anymore?

Speaker 3 (09:23):
This is a tough one for me. I like Mitch
Marner and see you got me speechless right now. I mean,
he's from Toronto, right, and he's he's done a lot
for the Maple Leafs.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
You know, it's it's home.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
I think he does want to be there, but I
think there's part of it is too, like subconsciously he
knows that maybe the best thing for both sides with anything,
with anything sometimes is you know, a marriage runs runs
out and you have to move on, right, And this
this might be the case, But we don't know yet,
And I don't want to speculate too much because the

(10:05):
Leafs aren't.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Done yet, Julie, They're not done that they're not done.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
I know, I know, I know you and I said yet,
but that they could still come back.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
But wouldn't that be great though?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
What it could? They could?

Speaker 3 (10:18):
They could, It would be a great storyline and then
we wouldn't even talking about Mitch.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
No, we'd be like, okay, because he hedged his bets
by not signing in the season. Like that's one of
the things I think is a bit like, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Think the chances of him being back are definitely a
lot less than what.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
They were for the money he will for sure too. Yeah, yeah,
that's probably in the Leaf's favor. Then they'll be like,
we're not paying fourteen fucking million dollars.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
No, I know, I know, well definitely not now.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, but I think, like I'll give them a lot.
I said this to Kelly Rudy yesterday that I think
that they should give like everyone another year of this
whatever happens, because like there's so much that was new
this year for that team.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Like I would not disagree with that, especially when you
have Craig Bruby behind the helm and how he's kind
of changed the way they've played.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
And I know it's only been one year he's been there,
but one year, but it's changed.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, it's definitely changed and the culture he brings and
how hard they are to play against, and well, I
mean we'll see here though, Let's see.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
We'll see, Okay, we will see. Also, in other news,
Nate is still covering WHL finals.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'm still here.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
We have Game five tonight, Medicine Hat Tigers are up
three to one on the Spokane Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
They could win. They could win tonight and end this series,
or or Spokane wins and to the hat.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I go back to Medicine Hat tomorrow. We have Game
six on Sunday and Game seven, if necessary, on Monday.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
So we will see, we will see.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
It feels like I came on at this podcast with
Nate beforehand and I was like, so, who won the
whlfs And You're like, it's still going on them.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm still inane. I'm still in my room.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Have we been doing that this? Okay? So your your
new broadcaster. Do you want in your heart? Okay? Do
you want this series to keep going? Because you want
to keep like do you want to keep going? Or
do you are you a seasoned enough VET at this
point where you're like, let's wrap it up.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm okay with it still going because because.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
You're new Yeah. Yeah because money, Yeah yeah, right, gott
to pay those bills.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Financially, it helps as well. But I mean I'm okay
with it either way.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
I've accepted the fact that if I have to go
to medicine, that no big deal. We watched some more hockey.
The games have been really good, and I get to
call some more games. If not, then I get a
nice direct flight from Spokane back to LA tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
So those are options. Those are my options.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
New broadcaster energy of like, yeah, I'm great to go
back to medicine hat like you'd never hear, no people.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
And I'm not looking forward to the travel. The travel
back is not going to be fun. But I mean
that's all, that's all part of it.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Gotten there, gotten back, because I don't even want to
know that stress of like what air Like oh no.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
No, that'll take us another ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
I describe in Regina and like you have to just
remember what. I forget what maybe it was Regina was
like you had to fly to like Calgary to then
fly to Regina, like you had to fly over it
and then fly back. I was like, God, it's just
or it was Winnipeg. I forget it was one of

(13:45):
the random cities that I lived in, not random, great,
huge major cities that I was fortunate enough to have
lived in in past lives. But I meant, maybe I
mentioned this before, but it was like King's Rangers Game
five double overtime, and I was like in the media room,

(14:07):
oh yeah, I did. I probably did this last episode,
but like I'm a goldfish and I can't remember shit.
So basically it was like, I wanted this to go
back to New York for game six. I was like,
I hope New York scores because I love Like I
was like, I'll get to go to New York. I
live in LA I was like, wow, this is I
lived my best life. And I just remember Bob McKenzie
looking around at me and being like, Julie, we want

(14:30):
to go see our families. And I was like, oh right,
you guys. You guys. You cheer for whomever wins the
first game of the series. That's what I learned, because
that means it's closer to being over if that team wins.
Because at this point in the season, sorry to break

(14:51):
the fourth wall for fans, broadcasters wanted to be over
a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, I mean, I can't speak for them because I'm new,
I'm still.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Look politically correct the answer there.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Greg Wushinsky said to me a really interesting thing. He
was like, what if if the Leafs won the Cup.
He's like, I just want to know how many Leafs
media would cry? And I was like, damn, that's so good,
that's so true, because all of them would, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Know you would cry. You would be crying for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
I mean I cried when the Raptors won the NBA
Finals and I was pretty much a Bandwagon fan, so
and I cry like every day. So I mean, I'm
not a good example. All right, all right, we have
had a great start to the pod, and we're going
to have an even better continuation of it after this
quick timeout, as we have Jeremy Ronick, Hockey Hall of

(15:51):
Famer and Host of Snipes and Stripes with Tim Peel
on the other side of this quick break. We'll see
you in a second, all right, and we're welcome back
into the Energy line with Thanking jsp and we're very
fortunate to be able to have on our next guest

(16:13):
Hockey Hall of Famer Host of Snipes and Stripes with
Tim Peel, none other than Jeremy Rodick and j R.
Such a pleasure to have you here on the show.
It has been it's been a hot minute since we've
caught up, and it's been a real hot minute, real
hot minute. Lots lots of lots of heat in this
last minute. So where are you, what's going on? Give

(16:36):
us the lowdown on how you're doing.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
And life couldn't be better, you know, it's been.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
It's been a whirlwind of a last eighteen months for me.
And you know, obviously with the Hall of Fame just
come and knocking on my door, change my life in
so many different ways. A lot of spiritual things, a
lot of you know, higher power moments, a lot of
just kind of self reflective.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Kind of things that I've just been able to go through.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
And you know, business is a great, family is great,
and I just I look forward to to the next.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Day every day.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
I you know, I thank you guys for having me
on to two very good friends.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
You know.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Nator's good to see you again. After our LA battle.
That was a lot of fun raising money for all
our firefighters. And Jules, you and I have been friends
for a long time. It's really good to connect. I
appreciate you having me.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, je.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
I mean you talk about you know, it is good
to see you, it's good to have you on you
talk about your you know, your Hall of Fame induction,
and you know, I was, I mean, I know Julie
feels the same way.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
We were so happy for you and it was thank
you well overdue.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, you know, And I just want to ask, you know,
you got you get that call, and is there anything
like describe the feeling. Obviously you've talked about it a lot,
but describe the feeling. Is there anything like that weekend
that was really just a surprise to you that jumped out.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
It was utter shock.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
I mean I really pretty mu put it out of
my out of my kind of my hopes.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
And repertoire of things to look forward to.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
And you know, I said many times it was a
time of my life where I've pretty much like taken
my career and put it to the side and focused
on my my life, my mentality, my my morals, my values,
my you know.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
My past history, my traumas everything.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
And just I'm a true believer right now that whatever
kind of energy you put into the universe, you're going
to get back and there's no question that that is
a true statement, and it's been It's been that way
for me for the last eighteen months. But it's like,
it's crazy. I have this this.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Epiphany in my life and the Hall of Fame comes
calling two months later, It's like what I don't And.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Then then things just keep rolling on top of the
next and everything just keeps flowing. I mean, I'll tell
you this is a crazy thing. I say this all
the time, but it's it comes down to where I
would go to a restaurant and I'd have to drive
around for fifteen minutes to find a parking spot.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Now the parking spot in front door is open for me.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Every single time I go to a place, the front
parking spot is always open for me. It's almost like
God is telling me you're welcome. You're welcome. Is you're
welcome meaning you're welcome here. And there's a lot of
times where I didn't feel I was welcome. I felt
like I was shunned. I felt like I was kind

(19:36):
of ostracized, and I think I had I think I
have to take some responsibility in that, for sure, maybe
more of the responsibility.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
But I also was up.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Against some really bad actors that make a living off
of you know, negative negative press or negative mentalities, or jealousy,
or people that are just not good people just in general.
So now I just I don't think about it anymore.
Just that and that Hall of Fame weekend. I couldn't
believe how crazy it was. I had ninety people that

(20:08):
showed up of my friends that came, which obviously through
my gratitude through another level, and not bad that one
bad thing.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Happened throughout the week. It was all smooth. And now I'm.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Working on some things in my life that are really
exciting that if it comes to fruition, you know it's
going to it's it's it's going to be even make
things even greater.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
So we'll stay tuned, Jair.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I love that perspective. I love I can feel the
energy coming from you right now, and a lot of
the things that you've said. I can always tell people
that have done a lot of work right by the
verbs they use, the way they talk, and you can
tell that you've obviously done that. And I love hearing
what you said about kind of like, you know, working

(20:56):
with the energy of the universe and it kind of
paying you back and you mentioned an epiphany that you
had two months before the Hall of Fame, and what
was that?

Speaker 5 (21:06):
Uh, it was it was a lot of things. It
was it was the way it was my mentality, It
was the way that I thought about myself. It was
it was almost kind of a narcissistic entitlement. It was
the I felt like everybody was against me and it
wasn't my fault. The way that I lived my personal life,

(21:29):
my private life.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Just not just not putting in the respect for other people,
respect for my health, respect for the game, respect for.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Friends. That is really needed.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
And I think, I think our I think society is
losing a lot of that. And you know, I've kind
of opened my eyes to say, I don't want to
live like this anymore. I don't want to live waking
up looking over my shoulder. I don't want to live
feeling like I like that. There's just stress and uncontrollable

(22:07):
chaos in my in my heart, and I just stopped it.
I just you know, it's it's becomes it really becomes
a decision that you have to make. And I think
our world needs more people to look in themselves in
the mirror and say I have to be better.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
I have to be a better person. I have to
treat people better. I have to be more understanding. I
have to have more conversations, not only with the other people,
but with myself.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
And I've done that, and I do that every day,
and I wake up energize every day and I'm literally at.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Peace, at peace in my heart. And it's a it's
a it's a great way to live.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
And I hope more people find that path, and if
we do, our world will be a much better place
because there's too many crazy things going on in our
world right now that really I think, you know, cause
a lot of unrest.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, Jared, I I could tell and feel it from
you know, and I share the same sentiment. I feel
like when you stay in gratitude and you stay grateful.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
You know things things, things.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Happened for you, and uh, you know, and and and
to go back on your you know. Looking for parking spots,
they're saying, I always say, is there's not a spot
where God is not, So I have to use that
one for the next time you want a parking spot.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
Love that.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
So I was I was going to ask to you know.
So both of us are former flyers and Rick talking
now being your old teammate. Uh, you know, how much
of a good fit do you think that is in Philly.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
I think it's the perfect fit there. There can't be
a better man to go into that job at this
particular moment.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
I think, you know, I thought I thought this a
couple of years back, and obviously when John Tortorella got
let go, who also I.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
Am very very very close with.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
I love John Tortorella, and he's one of those last
old school coaches that has no problem yelling and screaming
and not being afraid to really to challenge somebody's mental
state and to go after somebody and hurt their feelings,
whether that's allowed or whether it's still room.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
For that in the league. There's very few people that
can do it. John Twitterrello is one of them.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
And whether John gets another job in the National Hockey League,
if he wants it or not, will be very interesting.
But I think Tacket, and I text this to him
the other day, I don't think there's a better person
to slip into a role that literally just had one
of the most old school coaches there at the Helm
that maybe missed the player communication, the understanding of how

(24:46):
players are today, Understanding the body presence, the voice, presence,
everything that is needed for a coach to be successful
in this game.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
I think John Torto is one of the most successful
coaches of all time. Not knocking him, Rick Tackett brings
a toughness.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
He played for the team. He knows what it's like
to be a flyer, what it's like to put on
that jersey. Nate, you know what it's like to put
on that flyer jersey. There's a lot of things that
are important in pulling that jersey over.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Tackett exemplifies them.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
There's no way that someone's going to go in there
and when Rick Tockett says something that someone is going
to question what Rick Hackett is saying as a flyer. Plus,
he also knows how to deal with the players. He
can talk to them as as a teammate, not just
a coach. I think it's a great the most perfect
I think marriage. Of course, Jonesy and Danny see that

(25:47):
and understand that they are good friends with Rick also,
But I think flyers need I think they need Tacket
to make that next step in that rebuild, and it
could be the difference in a playoff spot.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, that's huge for them to be able to get
Talcket as their next coach. Let's take a look now, JR.
At the playoffs. Obviously a lot going on, and we
we don't want to get too dated with this podcast
because we know the Leafs are playing tonight as we God,
fuck my life, the Leafs. Why are they.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Away when this airs, it'll be the boys playing golf,
not not.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Oh my god, yeah, oh trust me.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
I believe it.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I was there. I saw it. I thought that they're
just going to cancel game six because it was like,
all right, let's just go. But yeah, what's like, Okay,
let's because we're talking leaves, but like, what's maybe stood
out to you about why the leaf suck?

Speaker 5 (26:55):
You know?

Speaker 4 (26:55):
I I think they're they have great players, there's no question,
But can all these players understand the urgency of a
game this to really understand that the that they have
to bring a certain level of a game and not
just what they're used to in order to win a game,

(27:18):
like they needed to win a game five, they had
to do things that were kind of not characteristic to
their own self, whether that be the physicality, whether that
be the the determination of a puck battle on the boards,
not just making spin backhand passes, you know, up the
middle and.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Doing it.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Doing things that are reckless, right, that are just you know,
show bodie, rather than just digging down deep and wanting
something more than the other team and trying to push
a team out and doing things that aren't that that
you don't do in the regular season that you have
to do in the playoffs and understand that you have

(28:01):
to stake it to another level. Florida Panthers know how
to take it to another level. They've done it, They've
won a championship, and they understand how you have to play.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
And where are the intricacies where.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
A guy like Mitch Marner is not going to really
pay attention to before a game, which is the board battle,
which is finishing a hard check, which is going into
a into a into a corner first to retrieve a
puck and not letting the defenseman go in before you
and trying to get the puck away from him. It's
becomes how bad do you want it?

Speaker 5 (28:37):
And I just truly.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Feel that this team is not built of a makeup
as a twenty man unit where they are all on
the same page in terms of how hard you have
to work and what kind of sacrifice and commitment and
doing the things that might be uncharacteristic to you to
help the team.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
Win, and how many people are going to do that.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
You know, Gostin Matthews has taking a beating right now,
But he's taken a beating. He's it's but that's what
comes around with being a superstar player. You don't find
a way to score goals, you are going to You're
going to get that. Did I see Austin Matthews in
the in the fray more than I saw in Games
one through four? He was in front of the net.

(29:22):
They're paying extra close attention to him. There's no question
he's playing strong as strong a defense as he can.
I feel bad for him, but he's gonna take He's
going to take the heat. But I just don't think that.
I don't think there's a I don't think yet, and
it's as crazy if it's been twenty years, I don't
think there's they're not committed to making that big step

(29:47):
to do things that they're uncomfortable with.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
N Can I ask on that?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah? Go ahead?

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Why really? Like, why do you think that is.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Some people some people some people just made the win
and some people aren't. Some people have an inner dry
that they just refuse to lose.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
And there's just and I think there's more in this
generation that are whether they prepare the right way, whether
they think the game the proper way, whether they live
the game.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
You know how many guys are in that and you know,
in that day of a game and they're literally living
that game throughout that entire day, how many like literally
have a burning sensation in the middle of their in
the middle of their chest where they would throw up
and be so angry to lose, right.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Right, they don't hate to lose, and you.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Know it's so extravagant, right listen, you know, yeah, you
got to you gotta hate losing more than you love winning.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
I understand that, but it's I can't I understand.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
You guys go into these locker rooms now, it's like
it's like the taj Mahal. I mean, they got their
own chefs, they got the pot coldt cold clunch, they
got the seuses everywhere, they got all the greatest things
that you can have.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
They get flown around them, they get treated, they get
treated like unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
But the guys like Matthew Could, Chuck, Brad Marshan, Sam Bennett,
these guys have a a absolutely refusal to lose mentality,
and they that you can see it. You see it
on their face, you see it in their way they play,

(31:38):
You see it in their in their mannerisms, you see
it in their.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
In their bite. I just don't I don't see that.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
In in anybody on I mean that that Nis. I
think Knives might be the one guy that that has that.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Kind of mentality. He shows it.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Neelanders great, is great and all, but you're not to
see Neelanders slashing somebody in the in the in the ankle,
punching somebody in the face, making that big hit, doing
something that's a little bit different.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Right, It has to be a little bit more flashing dash.
You're not gonna win with flashing dash.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
In the play in the playoffs, You're gonna win with grit.
And that's why Florida's That's why Florida won Game five,
and that's why they're gonna win the series.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Is there a Team Jr.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
That when you look back from your playing days that
reminds you of the Florida Panthers.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
That's hard to play against. Is there a team that
jumps out to you.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, the Colorado Avalanche, the Detroit Red Wings. Damn it,
Detroit Red Wings when they were winning their Cups ninety
six and you know throughout the nineties they won a
couple of Cups. Colorado Adam Foot, Peter Forsburg was a
beast to play against. I mean he he invented the
reverse hit, right, you slash, you get in your face.

(32:56):
He would do everything, the debt marshes, the you know,
even joe sackek had had a had a refuse to
lose mentality. These cloude Lemieux. I mean, you can hate
Claude Lemieux all you wanted back in the day, but
that guy didn't care about what anybody thought about it.
He just wanted to win. Watching Detroit with you know,

(33:17):
Joey Kosher, with Draper, with Malby, I mean, look at
the guys that literally made life a miserable hell for
players like me and for players like Brett Hall at
the time. I mean, yeah, those those teams were he
didn't like to go into those games. You literally knew
you're gonna go into those games. And there was gonna
be pain It was gonna hurt, it was gonna be hard,

(33:40):
and you knew it, but you did it anyway, and
you did it with you know, wanted to bite back.
We didn't go in there fearful, but we knew you
don't see that many in the game anymore.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Well, you know you're gonna go in and it's like,
this is gonna be painful, not hard. This is gonna
be painful.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
And I mean, you're talking about the killer instinct. And
I think that that's what the Trono may beliefs lack
big time.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Is that is that fucking killer instinct?

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Right, And I'm going to get into two guys that
are killer instinct guys. Is the Ku Chuck Boys. And
you know, and you played with their dad, did you
Did you see this coming from both those boys if
you're young.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Because I know I know their dad as well as anybody,
and I watched their dad at the rink. I listened
to what he said, I listened to how he fathered
the boys were in the locker room. I was one
of the first to hold the boys when they were born, right,
So that I mean, it's how far back we go.

(34:46):
I watched them run around the locker room shooting tapeballs
at us while we were getting dressed, right, and it
was just it was that mentality. But their dad was
always had their finger on them. Work, work, work, respect
the game. You know, this is how it's done. This
is how it's done. And it's it's no surprise to

(35:07):
me that they that they.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Have that that that passion for the game, but they
also have that respect for the game that Walt instilled
in them and their team guys, team guys, and they
will they will fight for their teammates, they will fight
for the game, they will fight to.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Win, and.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
They don't apologize for it. And I think that's that's
very bout.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
That Florida Panthers team changed the minute that Matthew could
Chuck came from Calgary. The whole team changed.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
That They everybody kind of got the mentality of a
Matthew could Chuck and they all play the same way.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
Even even Sasha Barkoff is running around.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Hitting, getting in the face of people, being aggressive, doing
things that are uncomfortable and not natural for Sasha Barkoff.
Look at Sam Bennett, he does it. For Hagey does it.
You know, k Black does it.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
It is a twenty person team united mentality that doesn't
go away, and it's exhausting to play against. And that's it.
That's that's a culture.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
You don't win without a culture, and that's why Buffalo
hasn't made the playoffs in thirteen years.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
They don't have a culture.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
That's why Toronto has only won two rounds since I
knocked them out in two thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
All Right, all right, all right, so it's true.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
I remember that no culture, no culture. Sorry, they don't
have They have.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
A culture, it's just not a good one and scared
of their own shadow is the culture at least.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
I just think you need to care more. You know,
you need to care more, period, Just care more, like,
really care more.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Well, you said it, Jerry, it's it's the top guys,
and it's it's playoff hockey. You have to get outside
yourself to win games. And you know you can't do
the same things you do in the regular season. You
said it, No, you can't.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
It's the same. Listen, would they say the definition of
as insanity is in the same things over and over again,
expecting a different result.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
To watch Austin Matthews and I love Austin Matthews. He's
a friend and my son's very good friends with him.
But to sit in front of the media and have
to make an answer answer a question about the fans
leaving and him saying, well, we didn't give him anything
to get excited about. If that doesn't, if that doesn't

(37:32):
rattle your brain as a player, you're in the wrong
profession A sentence.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, Yeah, you make a great point too about Matthew
Ka Chuck and like the I think we kind of
have forgotten about when he didn't play for the Panthers
because he's been such a big part of that identity
of the team and they have just been this relentless
as you mentioned, the culture, their identity. They know it,
we know what, we see it all the time. I

(38:01):
loved I have to tell you when you did uh
and in the interview with that pig in Carolina like
that lives like rent free in my head, one of
the best things I've ever seen. And sadly we don't
see enough of that on some of the broadcasts anymore.
So kudos to you for for doing those kinds of things.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
I have no problem making a fool out of myself.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
I have no problem having fun and making other people
laugh and listen. It's all about entertainment and it's all
about it's all about connection and this and that.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
I just think I it.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
I literally get schemed listening to some of these interviews
and the voice never changes. It's the monotone, yuck, don't
give me anything, to where I say, hmmm, that was
actually a real good take. Uh, why don't you tell
us something that we know is not a generic answer.

(39:02):
This is why I love watching BIZ, This is why
I love watching PK.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
They don't.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
They gives energy, they give pizzazz, They give a little
bit more than just the the Yeah, I knew you
were going to say that, right, And.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
It feels like that's definitely Nate and I've talked about it.
But like the vibe of broadcasting has changed. There's like
over the last even like I'd say, probably since BIZ
really got on TNT, like there's been a freedom to
do more and to say more. And I think that
that's been really good for the game because we're getting
just like more people involved, more people watch.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
That would have helped me in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
But that's yeah, I know I was going to say.
I thought I thought Jr. Was kind of the start
and then Biz kind of.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Followed, but it was the start ball like I was
actually the I was actually the poster boy of everybody
else getting scared to say something.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, yeah, that's also true. But and I'm sure like,
I mean, yeah, I guess like to have a like
a real convo. But it's like you were doing this
stuff and you were the poster boy and you're in,
you know, you're kind of we're doing Biz's stick kind
of in a way before he was doing it, and
then now he's been crowned kind of the king of it.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
He is the king he is.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
How does that feel knowing that you kind of you
started it?

Speaker 4 (40:22):
It's actually great because I think we see what happens
when you're real.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
We see what happens when you give real opinions and rather.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Than trying to sugarcoat it and not really worry about
too many people's feelings, because people want that. And hey, listen,
if it starts a debate or if it that's fine,
that's or a conversation, that's great. And I think Biz
is very good at creating a buzz, creating people talking.
We need people talking, even if it's negative. We can

(40:51):
have that conversation because I think I think the days
of hurting people's feelings, I think are starting to diminish
a little bit. I think we're starting to get back to,
you know, being able to have a conversation. I'm not
here to you know, make you feel good. I'm here
just that's this is how I feel. If you don't

(41:13):
like it, then have a conversation with it, but don't
call me an asshole. I might be an asshole, but
it's not what I'm Okay, that's fine, So I'm an asshole.
You don't have to like me, but don't be afraid
to say it, because again, you got to be real,
and you got to you got to entertain, and you
got to tell the truth. And that's why that's why
people watch you on television because everybody else has their

(41:35):
own problems. Everybody else has their own issues in their life,
and sometimes they just want to go to the television
to watch a movie, watch Netflix, watch.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
A hockey game, and and get.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Away from their own lives. So if we can't provide that,
you know, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Great?

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, I totally agree.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
You know, there's there's a couple of guys on TV
that and one guy that jumps out is Doc Emerck,
who you've worked with a lot. And you know when
you came into broadcasting, what is a guy like him?

Speaker 2 (42:03):
M Kenny al Burt.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Guys that you know, I know you're close with that
meant to you when you came into broadcasting after playing,
you know.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Just like pure gentlemen, right, you want to talk.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
We talk about guys that play in the game, that
love what they do, having that passion to play the game.
You know Doc Emrick is I mean, nobody put their
passion behind their their you know, their trait and more
than Doc Emrick, I mean yeah, and you you said it.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
There.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
You can hear it in the voice in the call.
You hear it. You you know, they're prepared. You know
how they how they call a play, how you can
whether you close your eyes and you can see what's
happening on the ice because of the way they're calling it.
And that's that's putting passion and their pride into their

(42:55):
into their sport and what they do. And then Kenny
Albert does it, Doc Emrick does there's a few other
guys that do it so well, you know, And I
had a lot of respect, but a lot of respect
for those guys, and you know they're it's not just
getting on and calling a game, it's putting in the

(43:15):
work to be prepared for it.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
And they nobody was better prepared than Doc Emeric, that's for.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Sure, right. And I think you also see it when
you hear and watch people that aren't good at it,
and you're like, gosh.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
There's there's a couple of games where I'm saying, why
is this person talking on my television?

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Why? J R.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
I have the same feeling.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
And I'm not going to embarrass anybody. I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna call out any names. But we know
when we hear it, we're like, poke might.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
It is true when you've also been like a part
of it on that side, like you're just much more
attuned to like when it does it's it nails on it,
Bart're like, oh gosh.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Getting better, though, I do have to say we're getting better,
you know. I I like I like how they.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Are in T and T.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
You know, I enjoy watching Steve Levy and and mess
and and p K. And I think by the way
I think I think prongs being on the on the
panel there has been great he's he's brought some such
great some great.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Takes while he's been on there.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
And again, you know, p K, they're they're they're calling
guys out when they need to call out. They're not
they're not pampering anybody and worried about who whether the
league is going to get mad at them, or whether
the owner of a team is going to get mad
at him like we had to. You know, Mike Milbury
one time called the Capitals the Crapitals on there, and

(44:53):
next thing you know, you know, we're getting calls from
the Washington Capitals and from the league.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
You know, Mike Milbury.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Has to has to has to apologize for calling the
Capitals the crapitals. But you know what, they were crap
and they deserved it, so why not say it. You know,
we need to get back to that again. By the way,
the Capitals were not the Capitals this year. They were
fantastic and they got beat by a better team. But

(45:21):
you know, again, that's that's how it's just crazy, how things.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Change, right yeah, yeah, And I was going to just
then parlay it into the next obviously talking about the
playoffs right now, but you know, ov Zati had a
great year all that kind of stuff. But story wise,
like what now going forward is kind of like your
favorite story of these NHL playoffs.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
Oh man, that's well, I think the parody right So here,
I am thinking, I'm a I know the.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Game really well. I'm I'm a student of the game.
Both teams that I picked to go to the finals
are out first round. Tampa Colorado gone right, the way
that Dallas was able to withstand Colorado, who probably had
the best team going into the playoffs, who got the

(46:16):
best players at the trade deadline, who looked the strongest.
Dallas goes in and beats them without two of their
top players in Hayskin and Robertson. Right, They go in
and do that how well? Pete the Bore coaches that team.
That's been impressive to me to watch Leon Drivesidle and
McDavid literally win games by themselves again, their determination to

(46:41):
not to lose, to pull their entire team up.

Speaker 5 (46:44):
Like we haven't seen we haven't seen Nugent Hopkins.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
He hasn't done anything yet, right, I mean, Hymns has
played well, Corey Perry's played well. Even Evander Kyines come
back and played well. But it's all Conor McDavid and
to me and dry Siddle literally lifting that team up
and do it again. We're kind of looking at another
rematch of last year if you. I mean, obviously Edmonton's

(47:09):
gonna have a tough time with Dallas whence Dallas gets
rid of Winnie.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
To me, it's the parody, right, it's a parody. I
have no idea who's gonna win from one day to
the next. It's almost like the only team I can
I can bet is gonna win is Carolina because they're
just like, are they the most boring team to watch?

Speaker 4 (47:29):
But they're the most consistent, the most consistent, one of
the best well coached teams. And no superstars. Well you
can call you can call.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
Jacob slave In a superstar, but he's the best defensive
defenseman in the league. You can call him a superstar.
I would I wouldn't call Spetcherkoff a superstar. I wouldn't
call what's his name superstar?

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah, it's like what's his name? That sunds pretty much it.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
No, they just have quality players and they play a
style that is just they get a job done, They
put you to sleep and then then they knock you out.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Look what they do with.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
It's it's very impressive. It's very impressive.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
I love how you talk about predictions too, because you know,
I had this prediction before the playoffs that the Oilers
are going to get beat by the Kings, and I
did too, and and then all of a sudden, now
after the second round they're there, or now that they're
past secround, they look like a Juggernaut's different.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
And I, you know, you being a next King to right.
So my my, I went in thinking Kings are going
to win the first round. That was my it was
going to be I picked him actually in five.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
It's amazing what happens in the course of a of
a playoff game and how one one play can change
the entire mentality and swing of a series. And I'm
a big Quentin Byfield fan. I think the kid is awesome.
He's an amazing hockey player. He plays the game the

(49:03):
right way. Young kid, though he learned the biggest lesson
maybe of his NHL career in Game four, down three
to two on the ice with a net pulled.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
You get the puck? What are you supposed to do?
You get the puck out.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Quentin Buyfield wants to take, you know, go one on
one with a defenseman to try to get out of
his own get turns of puck over.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
The puck ends up in the back of the net.
They lose an overtime.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Instead of being up three to one, they're down now
they're tied to two. You give mconor McDavid in dry
Sidle that much excitement and a team like that another
chance series over Now. Obviously we're not going to blame
Quenton Buyfield for LA losing the series, but my god,

(49:48):
it had one a big impact on it.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
Yeah, okay, and then what happens after that? They lose
the first round.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
It's a fourth year in a row, and you have
a very very good hockey mind and a very very
good person loses job and Rob Blake and these are
the repercussions and it.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
Just drives you crazy as a Kings fan.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
But well, yeah, I was going to follow up, Julia.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
I mean, I'm curious because you know, now you're on
this podcast with you know called Snipes and Stripes. You're
with Tim Peele here, and how did that how did
that relationship come about with a former a former official
legend official and.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Now it's you and him on a podcast.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
Uh, because he you know, he he's kind of like
the bad boy of rest too. And I was like, yeah,
of the league and he he got ostracized unfairly.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
I got ostracized unfairly. We're friends.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
I think Tim Peele has as a has a way
of wanting to get involved in things.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
He likes to He likes to get out his opinions.
He likes to be on social media and and and
spark up conversations and arguments and fights and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
And he loves the game. And him and I have
been very close and we're like, listen, how are we
going to do something that's a little different. Get a
player perspective, get a referee perspective.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Right.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
I think it was pretty cool and we just thought
it would be a nice mix. And and we're great
as a team. Podcast is doing great.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
We're happy, and we do our thing and we're not
gonna make a lot of money doing it.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
We're just gonna, hopefully, you know yet, yeah, make a
lot of people happy.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah, you're gonna get get that you know, podcasts, that
podcast money when you get out there, like, yeah, call
her daddy money, uh money, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
Okay, So maybe I can get Kamala Harris on my
on my podcast.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah, you probably could that that would be pretty interesting,
you guys interviewing her.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Yeah, it would be interesting for her after with the
questions I give her.

Speaker 5 (51:44):
But that's okay.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Oh yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure you'd give her a great,
a great interview. Speaking of one more question before we
let you go, you mentioned, you know, having opinions and
and and speaking your mind on different things. Can you
give us your hottest take on right now something in
the playoffs that would be different from what we're we're

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thinking or hearing.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
I think again, it's really there's how do you How
can you predict anything that's gonna happen right now? And
don't I mean I can predict with quite certainty that
Florida is gonna win this series.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
That's not that's not gonna be sorry.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
So hot take would have been that the Leafs win
this series, right Yeah, yeah, well that's.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
What I said.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
I can't say that because I say that, I'm gonna
look like a fool.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Like I said, with Colorado and Tampa, I would I'm
the one take that I would that I'm gonna make
and I'm gonna say is I'm gonna say that Hellabuck
finally proves that he's a pressure player and and finds
a way to battle his way back in to win
this series against Dallas. So that's gonna be my That's

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gonna be my hot take that Hellibuck finally earns his Vesna,
his Vesna status. He got shut out last night, so
he's he's on his way now he needs a big
win in Dallas. So I'm gonna predict. I'm gonna predict
that Connor Hallibuck earns his ves and the status in
the Sea. That's gonna be my hot take.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
That's that's possible.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Due I like that Dallas based on your record so far,
Ja everybody, I.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Mean, everybody's expecting Dallas to win, right Yeah. I think
it would be great for Winnipeg. I love Mark Chipman,
the owner of the Winnipeg Jets. He's a wonderful man
and one of the best owners.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
In the in the league. It would be really nice
to see see that happened for a city that not
not only needs it because of the size of their
building and their market, but I think the fans have
really cut a long time without having much success.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Yeah, they need something there in Winnipeg. As we all know,
we're we're a big Winnipeg podcast on ironically, so they'll
love that. Okay, JR, thank you so much for joining us.
It's been a real treat. Really appreciate you ye talk
everything and love hearing about the journey that you've been

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on and where you are now. So thank you so much.
And guys, make sure you check out his podcast Snipes
and Stripes with Tim Peel Wednesday's No Filter Network No
Filter dot Net. All right, and congratulations again on the holiday.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
Thanks you guys. You guys are awesome. Good luck on
everything you guys do. Love it.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Awesome stuff with j R. Jeremy Ronick love also his
like spiritual Journey. I'm a Woo Woo Astro universe type girl,
so I love hearing when I can hear people have
done a lot of work on themselves, So that's something
that sticks out. Also something that sticks out is how
we said the Carolina Panther, pant Carolina, Oh, the Carolina Panthers.

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This is a tough one.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
It's okay.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
I'll pick up where you left the Carolin Hurricanes and
the Washington Capitals playing against each other in the second
round of the playoffs, and the Washington Capitals lose in
five games to.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
The Carolina Hurricanes. There you go, there you go, no problem.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I just put them together because I know they're going
to be playing in the next round.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
That's what teammates are for. I'm here for you.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Yeah, and there also obviously is an NFL team that
is named them. Okay, so so the Canes they move on.
As Ronick said, they're like the most boring team, but
they get the word, they get the job done. And
what are your thoughts on them? What like, yeah, what
do you think about them?

Speaker 2 (55:42):
I mean, I guess we have to believe in them now, right.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
They just won I mean both series in five games
and now they have some rest and they beat the
best team in the East and the Washington Capitals. And
this one's funny.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Actually because like I look at both rosters.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
I look at their D both d they both have
really really good D that I think they're pretty even.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
And that's standpoint.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
You look at their forwards and both forwards like even
say that the Washington might have an upper hand in
the forward department and then you go to their goaltending.
And before the series, we were all like questioning, oh,
is you know Freddy Anderson going to be healthy?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Is he's going to be good?

Speaker 3 (56:21):
And there's the difference in the series right there, because
Logan Thompson, I thought, you know, he made he was
good at times, but there were saves that he should
have made that I think, you know, if you look
at the series and you look at timely saves, Freddy
Anderson made more timely saves and Logan Thompson did. And
to me, I think that was a difference in the

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series because it was a very closely matched here.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I mean there's games that went to overtime.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
I mean I look at even the first game, like
Washington has that game, No they they win that game,
the series might be different and Carolina ekes it out
in overtime. And that's kind of the I think that's
the storyline to me, is Washington's goaltending just wasn't.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
It wasn't good enough to win the series. And that
was the difference in Freddy Anderson.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
I mean he looks man good on Freddy because he
looks really good right now. And the Carolina Hurricanes, Like,
like you said, yeah, they're fucking boring to watch.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Sometimes, but they play the same way.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
They never change and it's just rinse and repeat, rinse
and repeat, keep coming over the boards.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
We're gonna keep putting the puck in the zone.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
We're gonna keep shooting every single puck that we have
on our stick.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Even if there's a.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Play to be made, We're gonna shoot on that no
matter what, you know, And it's it's working right. And
they're going to the conference finals and they're waiting for
Florida and Toronto to see what happens there. And look
the Carolina Hurricanes, And kudos to Rob Brindamore too, man.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Like they they look good.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Yeah, and they just they just dismantled the pretty good
damn Washington Capitol's team.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
They also didn't just like way I feel that not
many like just very over looked, Like talking about every
other team winning a Cup really really brought them, like
as or we've just been talking about every other team.
I think it's going to be everybody. Yeah, two thousand
and six rematch, Oh Caine's Oilers.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Cam Ward versus Dwayne Rolison.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Wow, look at you.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
I know my ship man, you remember.

Speaker 5 (58:28):
I love rolling the goalie Jay.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
It was a DJ liquid Rollie that's what we called him.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Yeah, I'm not gonna I won't keep going on the
nicknames for Rolie, but I love roll one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah, you know, okay, what.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Time we were at the Roxy in Vancouver with like
you guys and not with the team with the broadcasters.
We were there and Rollie went up and he was
in the DJ booth and he was just like he
got the microphone. I remember he asked me, like, what
song do you want. I was like, probably said like
mister Brightside or like Bad Romance or something stupid. Yeah,

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you like, Julie, this song's for you. And I was
like what and he was like waiting, He's like, hi, Julie,
and I was just like, wow, you are a legend.
Was when I learned about the slide at the Roxy.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Oh yeah, I mean it's funny. Duayde Rollinson. We we've actually.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Been together on three different organizations and yeah, I played
with him on the Island with the Islanders. I played
with him in Tampa and then he ended up obviously
working for Anaheim and I was playing at the time
as well.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
So Roly the goalie. We go way back.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeah yeah, I don't know how we got on that,
but yeah you said it, you said it.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Well, no, you said that, Carolina, No you said no? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Yeah, yeah yeah yeah Carolina Edmondson.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Hold on, before we end here, what is going to
be the feeling of our next podcast, Julie, What are we.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Feeling on Tuesday? Yeah? What are we looking at for
conference finals matchups? What are we seeing?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
What are you hearing? What are you seeing?

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Just give it to me quick, Who's okay?

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Sorry? Fine, It's gonna be Panthers Carolina, and then it's
gonna be Stars and the Oilers.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
I'm gonna say, I'm going, I'm going I'm going Toronto, Carolina,
and I'm going Winnipeg Edmonton.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Yeah, let's do it. Let's get all the Canadian teams
in there. If we could get three Canadian teams in
the final four, and then it would be Carolina that
will win and everyone will be like ha ha ha,
Canada still sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Before before we before we sign off, JR. Said it,
manifest it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Manifest that parking spot, Manifest that Stanley
Cup out there. Okay, all right, everyone, thank you so
much for this lovely edition of episode nineteen of the
Energy Line with JSB. Energy Line is a production of
the NHL and iHeart podcast Thanks to Jeremy Roneck for
joining the show. Thanks to Jake Brown and Bob Bender

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I'm Julie Sharp thinks he's Nate Thompson.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Nate Now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
I'll be back on Tuesday as we all have both
conference final matchups and set them met Pravior for them
matchups which we believe will be three Canadian teams. Enjoy
the games this weekend. We'll chat with the on Tuesday
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