November 4, 2025 • 37 mins
On this week’s episode of Energy Line, Nate Thompson and Julie Stewart-Binks talk:
• Their three NHL teams trending up, and the three starting to slide the wrong way.
• The lifelong trauma of losing a Game 7 (and why it never really leaves you).
• Connor McDavid’s reaction to the Blue Jays game being played on the jumbotron, with sound, during the Oilers game..
Then, JSB and Nate are joined by Seattle Kraken captain Jordan Eberle, who talks about:
• What it means to wear the C in Seattle.
• His long-standing relationship with Lane Lambert.
• Mentoring Mat Barzal during his time with the Islanders
• His love of music, and the gift he got from Eddie Vedder
And more!
Enjoy, and we’ll see you back here next week for more Energy Line.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Energy Line is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
(00:27):
Hello and Welcome on into Energy Line with Nate jsp
I'm Julie starpinks he's a former NHL or Nate Thompson.
Energy Line is a production of iHeart Podcasts and the
NHL tom Or. A lot has gone on since we
last talked, including you sending us a photo of your
black eye, which you have right now. So what happened, Bud?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, just training jiu jitsu and sometimes limbs fly all
over the place. And I didn't even realize I had
a black guye until I was like leaving the gym
and I saw in the in my car in the mirror.
I'm like, oh, that's gonna leave Mark, And sure ship,
there it is. I got nice little shiner. Uh, forty
one years old, retired hockey player walking around with a
black guy because I like to train jiu jitsu. So
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what are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
It was a trip down memory lane for you, I'm sure.
But what you just said there like you weren't even
you didn't even notice you had a black eye. Is
that what a black guy feels like?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Or No?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Is that just because you're you've had so many.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I've had a few more than a few. Uh yeah,
I guess it just felt like kind of puffy. Like
I was like, hmm, something feels a little swollen around
my eye. And I looked and I looked at the mirror.
I'm like, yeah, that's gonna be. That's going to be
a shiner. I've had a few of those, and like
I said, there it is. But it's you know, it's uh.
I guess it fits the territory a little bit. Maybe
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not I am retired.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Maybe, I mean you were you were doing jiu jitsu.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Sure that's true.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
We understand the circumstance. You weren't just going to home
hardware or whatever, like you fell into a doorknob or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I mean, it could be like Wilder hit me too.
I mean, she's she gets rough. It could have been
not too your two year old. I gave you a
black guy. I mean, not out of the question. We've
seen she's got some pretty good strength.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
She's working on there, getting her young athlete, getting your
going early, I can tell. Okay, So speaking of athletes,
first of all, I'm just it's wild that a black
guy just doesn't even hurt. But I think that might
just be the Nate Thompson factor that we have here
on I don't ever want to know, but I'm going
to take your word for it. So, speaking of a
(02:31):
lot going on right now in the NHL schedule, we're
hitting November. We are inching closer and closer to that
elusive American Thanksgiving date where it is the playoff indicator
of whether teams are real or not. I did hear
Elliott Friedman from Sports and At discuss that November is
his sort of timeline of when apparently teams that are
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not in a playoff position at this point only ten
have made it into the playoffs in like the last
seventy years or something ridiculous like. So basically, the big
picture is, if you're not good now, the chances of
you being good later are very very slim. And we
know a lot of our listeners may or may not
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have been extremely dialed into hockey over the last few weeks.
I'm talking about people in Canada, I'm talking about people
in Los Angeles, And you know, this isn't a baseball podcast,
and I'm certainly not going to touch on it. Because
something happened this weekend. It was a Game seven, and
all I'm going to say is congratulations to the Los
Angeles Dodgers for going back to back in the World
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Series and what was arguably one of the most insane,
craziest I don't know what banana sandwich games of all time.
We're not going to go into it right now because
what we are going to go into date is a
term in baseball. We heard a lot three up, three down,
and we want to know, Nate, your three best teams,
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that's the three up and the three down. Are your
three os teams out of any indication factor that you
feel is important for your ranking.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
First off, Julie, we will get into that. I will
ask how you were doing after I get into this.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Uh hockey, first hockey first first.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I will discuss your emotions after this. Yes, my three
up for sure are going to be Tampa Tampa Bay Lightning,
the Anaheim Ducks, and the New York Rangers are my
three up. I really like the way the Rangers are played,
especially to finish out that road trip. I thought they
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they just played good, good hockey and they got big
contributions from JT. Miller, Will Cooley, former guest on the
Pod of Energy, line, some big goals there. And then
you go to Tampa, who's won five in a row,
and they get a big win against Utah yesterday. I
watched a game, good game, really good hockey game. Sorelli
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and Hagel starting to get catch fire. Now, you know,
they're starting to the right way. Things are starting to click.
We knew Tampa was going to come back and play
the way they need to play, but that that's the
team that we all know well. And then and Anaheim Ducks.
I mean, look at this Anaheim Ducks team. These young
guys are coming through counter Gochy scores again yesterday, Leo
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Carlson's leading the way, Lucas Dostall, I mean, they get
a big win against New Jersey at home yesterday. I mean,
this team, they look good. And Pat Verbeek looks like
a genius right now. So those are my three up.
They're all looking real nice for the playoffs. They're playing
good hockey to start the season. My three down. Oh,
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I'm gonna start with the Kings. You know, they've just
been average really and that's kind of indicative of their
record and what's happening. You know, they've had a lot
of overtime games, shootout games, and I don't know if
that's a good sign or not. You know, I think
based on their record, I don't think it is. I
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think they can play much better. No offense to Corey Perry.
I love the worm, but he's probably their best player
right now and that probably can't be the case. And
then the next two teams are Vancouver and Saint Louis.
Start with Saint Louis. Saint Louis, it's tough because they
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made the playoffs last year. They go on that run,
they lose the way they do to Winnipeg, and this year,
I don't know what team we're watching. I mean, this
is it's it's bad. It's a catastrophe right now and
they're they're in serious trouble. So I'm not gonna get
too deep into that because we could spend a whole
episode on that.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Then we'll go to Vancouver. Vancouver's banged up. They're really
banged up. They're kind of puttering along, but they're my
other team that's down because without Quinn Hughes in the lineup.
But I just don't know if they can even tread water.
It's just tough for them. To even keep it keep
a float. So those are my three up and three down,
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Julie and strike three strikes out, three strikes, you're out, strikeout,
strikes out, three strikes, you're out. Yeah, bring it to baseball.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Hey, look, you know we're we're experimenting with different themes
here on the show. I think those are some very
interesting picks. I think the three ups were harder, were
easier to pick. The three downs. There's a lot of
there's a lot of teams you could kind of be
like that, they that are not doing great, that don't
look very consistent. The Blues, I'm agreeing with you on
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one hundred thousand percent. Absolutely, Like it's infuriating. I'm sure
for Saint Louis fans to watch this. It felt like
they were going to be going in a better direction,
you know, signing different players, shoring up the defense. They're
deeper at center, they have a lot of skill, they're
in their prime. Jordan Bennington, is he even going to
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make the Olympic team after he was the starting goalie
for Team Canada at the Four Nations? Like this is
getting pretty bad out there. Seven straight losses and not
going in the right direction. So I agree with you
on that. I also put the Flames in there as well.
We know that they're not doing well. They've been like
bad since the beginning. Dustin Wolf hasn't had, you know,
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the start that we all thought, I'd say. And then
I also had the Wild and the Predators both in
there because the Wild's power place cooled off. Maybe the
Carill capris Off NHL contract might have cooled things off too.
I'm surprised too, because I thought that we were going
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to see them go that that emoji that has the
graph going up. That's what I felt Minnesota would be,
and we thought Predators too. By the way, I can't
say the Predators without thinking about the S and L
sketch from this past weekend, which was amazing. If you
haven't seen it, just go on Instagram. They talk about
hockey just different.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I saw it. It was good.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, yeah, it was great. We love we love a
crossover between entertainment and hockey, and we've seen it with
Brady she of course being in the Let's do that
Hockey sketch, of which we have talked to him about
and we will get to on this podcast at some point.
Three up. I want to I definitely want to match
your your Tampa Bay Lightning. I like to just note
(09:27):
that I was there for the beginning of the comeback,
of which I will call myself JSB slopbuster. Yeah, yeah,
I'm They don't call me JSB for nothing, So you know,
I went down to Tampa and got them going on
there on their run. So I'd like to take credit
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for that. But I think that all of these exaggerations
of andre Vazilewsky's like is he good? Is he not?
Like I think it was overrated at the beginning because
he's allowed only four goals in the last three games,
and that's that's pretty good. And it seems like things
are coming together. I mean, Koudrov obviously hitting the milestones,
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one thousand points, the headman stuff, Guys just getting back
into a flow. Remember they were so good in the preseason,
then they got all banged up, and it just seemed
like they're kind of taking off of the course they're on.
I did have I like that you put the New
York Rangers in there, because I think they deserve it.
Three wins right now in a row. I also had
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I do like the Ducks course, I think they've been
so fun to watch. That offense is just explosive defensively,
still a little question marks there, but the vibes are
completely different. I will say I did talk to one
of my former coworkers who said there is some addition
by subtraction there. So I thought that was a very
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fascinating thing that maybe we can dive into on another
part of this podcast. But you can think about guys
that may have left last year who play on different
teams now and how that might have changed the vibes
on this team. Trevor's all right, okay, so, but then
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I also put in Winnipeg Jets and Colorado Avalanche.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Those are good ones, both of those, both those teams.
It was it was hard for me to leave the
Jets or Colorado just the way some of those guys
are playing on both those teams.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Good picks it, yeah, right, It's like it's like there's
more good Well no, I just said there's more bad
teams and good teams, but there's a lot of there's
a lot of really good teams too, especially Colorado now
and in the Devil's eight game win streak, and a
lot of yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That and a lot of and and look at look
at even Pittsburgh. Look at month of October. Look at
the Pittsburgh peing was you're the best team in the
month of October. There's another one. I mean, that was
another one I wanted to bring up too. Yeah, there's
so many.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
You cannot bet on the NH You cannot bet on hockey. No,
you can't. You cannot bet on hockey because it is
just an insane asylum of things that go on. Like
if someone told us the Pittsburgh Penguins were like the
best team at some point in end of October, you'd
be like, no way, jose Right, how I know?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, speaking of October, and remember we were going to
touch on your emotions in this last weekend, right, how
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah? So, you know what, I felt a lot of
these emotions before because I come from the city of Toronto.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
That was the best baseball I've ever watched in my life.
And I've believed it or not. I've watched a lot
of baseball at different points in my life, and that series,
the way everyone played, the different players that had to
come in, I mean, I feel terrible for every person
in Toronto. I don't know what you guys did to
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you can't deserve all of this over and over. But
what a series. It was incredible. I think you have
to I Julie, I think you had like to be
a Toronto fan and to witness that and to be
a part of it. I mean you have to be
kind of grateful too, like that was pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh, I mean for them to be there, it's hard
to have perspective in the moment, but it's like the
Jays weren't even supposed to be there and then to
be a part of like this insane history making game.
And you know, at the end of the day, like
some people be like, oh, well, the Jays were a
better team or they had so many more opportunities, but
it's like, but the Dodgers won it. And that's what
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sports is. It's those moments, right And for you, Nate,
I got to ask you, like these baseball players felt
a lot like hockey players in some regard, because like
George Springer's basically up there like weekend at Bernie's. He
can't even do anything and remind me of like what
you guys have to go through in the playoffs. Did
you ever feel kind of some similarity? Is that all?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah? I mean, I've had see I've never won, so
I've never been on a championship team at the NHL level,
but I've been in game seven's and lost game sevens
and have felt that heartache and I know that feeling,
and I know, I guess the one that comes to
mind in a close game seven would be when I
was in Tampa and we lost to Boston in Game
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seven and it was same, I guess, same, same feeling. Yeah,
it was zero zero hockey game, the whole game up
until six minutes left. Not one penalty was called the
whole game too. It was a complete five on five game,
the whole game. And yeah, you know they go on
to win the Stanley Cup to be Vancouver. So I mean, yeah,
those game sevens after feeling that they score, it's a
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I'll be completely honest, those I feel for the Blue
Jays guys, the coaching staff, players, everyone, because you are depressed.
You are one hundred percent in depression after that because
you put everything into it. You know, obviously you're physically
you're putting everything into it, but the mental part of
it is the most is the hardest park is it's
such a roller coaster. So I think Blue Jays players.
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They should be extremely proud for the season they had.
I've been there. That's it's hard. It's hard to go
through that because you also relive it in your head.
And unfortunately, you'll relive that in your head for the
rest of your life because I still relive certain moments
in my head. It's just it's just the way it is.
But incredible series and that's sports.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Like we said, oh man, that is deep, reliving in
your head for the rest of your life. I'm sorry
that you have to deal with that, and that all
players that are in that situation will have to deal
with that. One quick question before we move on, can
you take us inside the locker room after losing a
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big moment like that, and just for any for all
everyone listening who wouldn't have any idea what that's like?
What is it like?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It's I guess the best way to describe would be
if you walked into a locker room after it would
feel like someone died, probably like it. You know, you
walk in there and it's quiet. You know, some guys
are consoling each other, some guys are crying, some guys aren't. Uh,
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it's it's it's usually very very quiet though, and not
a lot of and not a lot of said. Maybe
some guys will say something, you know, to ease the pain,
but I guess the best way to put it and
candidly is, yeah, it feels like somebody died when you
walk in that locker room after it's it's a tough,
tough feeling because you know, you put everything into it,
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like I said, and then it's over, just like that,
you know, And I think that's what it is. I
think that's part of it too, Juliet, is you know
it's not just losing and all that, but you're also
the season's done. You know, you had the whole season
with these guys. You know, you become kind of a family,
become very close with these guys, and now it's going
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to change and you know that, you know the team's
not gonna be the same next year. And there's part
of that feeling too, where it's like, Okay, this is over,
this chapter's done, and now we have to move on.
So there's a lot of loss. This is what it is. Heavy.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I'm sorry for asking you that question. I was like, yeah,
is Nate gonna cry? Are going to cry? Are we
all just like this is. It just feels like it's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It's hard. Yeah, it's hard. I mean I almost got
emotional thinking about because yeah, you go back to these
moments of when you you know, when you lose and
and that's why they say, you know, you you learn
a lot more from from losing than you do winning.
And in those moments, uh, you do you learn to
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say the least.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Well, thank you for sharing that with us, because I
know that probably isn't easy, but I know that people
will empathize with you for having to deal with that
and having such a high high being in a game seven.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah. But then, but like you said, it puts it
into a perspective for people to know what, you know,
players feel in every sport like the Blue Jays mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And then by sort of I guess the runoff of
Toronto fans feeling like that too, so they don't ever
want to the kids like touching a hot stove. You're like, no,
game seven, I'm not touching a Game seven ever. Again,
that's how I felt, certainly, just to bring this back
into a ha haha sort of vibe of Toronto is
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a tough place to be from for any sport. But
we got the Raptors in twenty nineteen, and we will
hang our hat on that for the rest of our life.
All right, Well, we're going to hang our hat on
the fact that we got an incredible interview with none
other than Seattle Kraken Captain Jordan Eberley, and he is
going to be joining us on the other side of
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this break to discuss his NHL season on and off
the ice. Don't go anywhere. This is energy line with
Nate and JSB. We're now joined by Jordan Everley from
the Seattle Crack and Captain and you're here now. Got
to ask you a question that I have just met
Julie start Binks. Is when people ask you where you're from,
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how do you describe.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
It to them?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Well, I say Regina and just say it right out no,
and then I have to explain where that is most
of the time, especially in the States, because I think
they think it's Regina because there's a spot in an
American named Regina, but Regina. And then I usually followed
up with have you been and they say, you know, no,
and I said, you don't have to go.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
It's not the nicest place, but it's home.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That because I lived there for a couple of years
of work sports there and I always say, oh, yeah,
I worked in a place. It's above North Dakota and
a place called Saskatchewan. They go, well, what's it called?
And then I say, Regina. You know, everyone like loses
their mind, so it's you know, city rhymes with fun.
But you know a couple of Regina kids here, Yeah,
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SASKI right here.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I have to ask, you know, I played junior in
Seattle and you know, lived there for a bit, and
how is he that'll have been so far? Living there
for you, it's it's been great.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I've loved it.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I love being from the west. Obviously being back on
the West Coast, I love it's closer for family. I've
had two kids born there. You know, it's kind of
just it's become home for us. We love getting outdoors.
I think, as you know, when it's when you can
see it, when it's not gloomy and dark, it hits
it's beautiful with Mount Rainier and the ocean, the lakes,
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the mountains, it's it's a visually gorgeous And then the
fans have been amazing. I think they've the building they built.
First off, it's amazing, and then the fans have kind
of gotten behind us from day one. So really enjoyed
my time there.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
It's such a big sports city too, Like I've been
there a lot for Seattle Sounders stuff, Like you guys,
do you feel that with like some of the other
fan bases because they're so raucous I noticed, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, I mean I was a Seahawks fan before I
got there, and knowing the twelfth Man, the passion they
have for sports, it's yeah, we get it too. And
I know it's nice too because you know, I played
in Edmonton for a long time too, and they're obviously
very passionate. But there they're hockey there as well. But
you can get you can get away in Seattle a
little bit, which I love Edmonton. It was tough to
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get away, but you get the experience of the fans
being passionate, but you're also able to get away, which
I really enjoy some good music.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, Seattle as well. I remember I was a big
Pearl Jam fan. Yeah, so being you know, playing junior there.
Mike McGready actually played the guitar or played the national
anthem on the guitar at one of our games. Once,
which was incredible. So is there. I know you're a
music guy. You played the guitar. So being in Seattle,
have you got the venture out a little bit in
the music scene. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I mean obviously big Pearl Jam fan pro fighters Levon
obviously got their start there. I've gotten to know just
through golf, even just playing the pad onhand a train.
We've hung out and played a little bit together. Actually,
for my thousand game, Eddie Vedder game a ukulele signed
came down.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, so I was like, you know, meeting him, and
I named my dog after Eddie Vedder, So yeah, I'm jealous.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Of Yeah, actually you and uh and Teddy Teddy too.
And you know what's funny is I told because I
played with Teddy and I knew Teddy had named him
Eddie or Vetter. And when I was talking to him,
what did you how did you say?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
We were in the back. He's a very humble guy.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
This is Teddy Purcell we're talking about to play.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Anyways, so I'm talking to Eddie Vedder and I'm telling
him about you know, Teddy name his dog after when
we're going through that, and he's like, you're Pearl Jam
or he's like your music fan, like Pearl Jam was like, yeah,
like you're Pearl Jam.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
This is like me meeting a c d C. This
is a highlight for me. He was a humble guy. Awesome.
He loves hockey though.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
That's something great for you to have there.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I mean, like.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
To talk about the hockey.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, we just want to talk about Edig Vetter and
all that kind of stuff. We know that case. So
you mentioned Edmonton. Of course you played for the Islanders
with Laine Lambert and can you just describe for us,
like and for people who wouldn't know what your relationship
with him is like and what what that's meant to
you in your career.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, well we I mean I had him in in
uh in Long Island for three years. You know, I
credit him and Barry Trotz for sure, for you know,
as a young guy came into the league, you know,
I solely focused on offensive side of the buck.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I didn't even you know, I didn't put a lot of.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Emphasis as a winger on wallplay's defensive zone, you know,
blocking shots, that sort of thing. And you know credit
them with you know, teaching me how to you know,
play the right way, you know, try and develop more
of my two hundred foot game and still not Oh
you know, obviously there's always room for provement, but I
like to think of myself a lot more of it,
more of a two hundred foot game, and that those
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kind of style we played in Long Island, and you know,
we obviously had some success there too, you know, back
to back conference finals, almost getting into the Cup a
couple of times. So when we when he when he
hired him to be our coach and c Yeah, I
was excited, I think first and almost just the structure
that he brings in the I call it the Barry
(24:10):
shrots Lane Lambert system, but the details of how to
play the right way, and then the intensity, so I
thought he was those are all things that we were
kind of lacking the last couple of years, and you know,
I knew that he would do a good job bringing
and then just the passion, like I said, that he
has of winning. I think as you get older, that's
kind of the only thing that matters in your mind.
And you know we feel the same way.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
No, let's bring things back to music here, of course,
and we know what the Islanders you guys created that
Islanders fight song, the hit Islanders fight song, and so
we were curious. We were just talking here and our
producer Matt was brought up the idea, like, have you
guys on the kracking come up with something?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I wrote a song like our first year didn't. I mean,
we weren't very good team, so it didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
But wait, wait, wait, wait, okay, you wrote a song
in first year.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, I've done it with a couple of teams just
like we're talking and very preliminary, funny stuff of each guy.
Just you know, you get bored on the road. You
had a lot of time too, you know, so it's like,
what do you do? The islander on was a lot
better because you're a good team and Barzi and Leezy
helped me and we were I mean, like I said,
you got a lot of time in your hounds.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You just you write fun. They're not good songs if
that's what you're looking for there, they're number.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Oh we don't, you know, we're not looking for good
We just love effort our energy line here. So before
you go into the next one, just can you tell
us what's your inspiration when you write it?
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Like, no Honestly, a lot of the times I take,
you know, songs that uh you know, chorus lines or
rhythms from all other songs and just change the lyrics.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I think it's that easy.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Smart.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, well it worked because I was playing on the
Flyers at that time and when they beats in the
Bubble in seven games, so that song, obviously we were
done going home. Yeah. Can you talk about your relationship
with the Matt Barzel because I know you guys kind
of created that song together. Yeah, in the Bubble, So
can you you know, relationship with.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Him, Well, I mean, he's a little bit younger than me,
but we we came into Long Island at the same time,
so it was kind of weird of the new guys.
He was a rookie, I had just gotten traded there.
We played together the whole year pretty much together, so
we just, you know, we became close. We're both Western
Canadian kids.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Love golf.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
He he didn't play music at the time. I'd play
I played guitar, but he got into it.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
He loves it now. He's definitely a guy I still
keeping tabs with.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
It was nice to see him yet last night when
I got in and hadn't seen him for a couple
of years, just with last year I missed out.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
He got hurt.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I got hurt.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
So, you know, I think there's there's as you know,
there's guys you you become close with on certain teams.
You know, most of your teams you are close with,
but more guys out, like some guys more than not.
You know, we sat beside each other. It's just kind
of a perfect storm. So you know, it was it
was fun to see him. He's obviously seen a pretty good,
pretty good hockey player. He's fun to watch when he's
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out there.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
So he was on that serious again. He was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
So yeah, he's very very good, right, And I mean
you just mentioned they're, you know, having gone through the
injury last season, and I mean, my gosh, just reading
about it alone or like wow, like it just kept
going next thing and then your wife was pregnant and
like having the baby. I mean, tell us what what
that was like to go through and kind of maybe
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what you've taken from having gone through.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, I mean it was.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yeah, I've had lots of injuries, this one was different.
The fact that they couldn't really give me an answer,
if I'd be able to play hockey again, which is
scary to start with, and then you know, trying to
figure out what the best course of action to fix it,
having the surgery coming out, and then I had to
basically line a bed for two months not move, and
then we.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Had our third baby. Yeah, it was it was a lot.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
I mean, ultimately the way it turned out, I was
pretty happy with the way I feel in the ice now,
you know, I feel back to normal. So I yeah,
from looking back to when they told me they couldn't
really give me an answer if I'd be able to
skate normally again or play, and now how I feel,
I mean, it's gone amazing.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Wow, that's scary. I'm sure to have heard that.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. And Jordan, like, it's crazy we
were talking about before you came in here. You know,
you came to the league so young. You're thirty five
now and you're captain of Seattle. Like, you know, it's
been impressive. You had an illustrious career. Describe yourself as
a captain for Seattle and how you kind of lead is,
you know, for for that team.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yeah, I've kind of just I mean I've had a
lot of good mentors and guys that I've you know,
played with and guys I looked up to, and you
just try to take ted tidbits from each. I mean
I looked into when I first came in the league,
Sean Horkoff and the way that he conducted himself, his
competitive level. It wasn't matter of his practice, golf, table tennis, whatever,
he wanted to beat you in. It his work ethic,
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and you know, you try to take that in his
and then his personality of bringing the young guys. I
mean as a as a twenty two year old, he
was bringing me on golf trips and I thought that
was special.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I was going on trips with.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
You know, thirty three year olds and learning them, going
to the island, playing with the Honors Lee and just
you know, he's got this goofy, funny side and then
he's got you know, you try to take little things
from each guy that you've taken. But ultimately, you know,
as I've gotten a little older and just experience, I
think the biggest thing is just trying to show guys
what it is to be a pro and showing up
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at the rink ready to work and putting in your time,
but also enjoying it. I think you talk to any
guy as you probably missed the locker more than you
miss Game forty two, right, So you know, you try
to embrace the moments of being around with your teammates
and all of that just builds into hopefully a competitive
team and you know, battling for one another a little
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bit more and enjoying each other's company.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And as a leader, I think you can try to
unite the group a little bit. It comes along with
it too.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
As the older guy, and I can relate to that,
you know, being an older guy in the league, is
it you know, everything, all these little things like practice,
and is it a little bit more of a grateful
appreciative you know, getting to experience it.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, you know, you do. You do, you enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
It goes by quickly. You try to, you know, be
a little bit more present. You try to, you know,
soak it in a little bit more. I think there's
obviously ups and downs start of season as a team.
You goes through good times, you guys were bad. Try
to meet in the middle, and you try to not
embrace both sides of it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I mean, we're so grateful to be able to have
you here, talk with you, listen to you know, what
makes you tick and everything with being a captain. I
think that's great that you've taken things from every guy
that you've been around. And I mean, it seems like
Seattle has just got a really great culture there. I've
never been yet for a game, but I love that
city and I think that it's fantastic that you're back.
You're feeling healthy, and we were really surprised that you're
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thirty five years old. I remember when you were playing
in World Juniors.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I'm like, oh, man, that goes by quick.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, that's It's a good check for how we are now, right,
but hey, we're still here, we're doing it. Grateful for it.
So thank you so much Jordan for joining us.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, thanks having me appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Welcome back to Energy Line with Natan JSB. Thank you
so much to Jordan Everly for his time and discussing
everything Seattle, Kraken and beyond and we know that. Of course,
this past weekend there was a big Game seven that happened,
and someone who has played in a Game seven before,
Connor McDavid, he had some thoughts about the Blue Jays
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and Dodgers game being played during the Edmonton Oilers game
with the sound on and even some fans cheering, let's
go Blue Jays. Let's listen to that now.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I want to ask you about the focus and trying
to play this game. When they're showing the Jay's game on,
fans are cheering JS, like, what was that?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Like?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
That was really really strange.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Obviously, we're all all on the Jay's bandwagon and everybody's
wanting them to win, and it is so disappointing obviously,
but strange strange to have it on during the game.
Listening to the crowd was distracting for sure. I'm glad they,
uh thanks shot it off there for.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
The third when when you know they're showing, they're showing it.
Not only showing it, but they're showing it. Was sound
during the TV time ups as well. Yeah. That it
was bizarre. Yeah, it was bizarre. It was bizarre.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
I found myself watching the Jay's game sitting on the bench,
you know, listening to the crowd while I'm on the ice.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
You know what just happened? It was. It was very strange.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
All right, Nate, you just heard occonnor mc david said
he didn't didn't hold back on his opinions.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
What what do you think somebody's in trouble. I'll tell
you that someone's in trouble. Connor McDavid speaks up. I mean,
I I agree with him. I think that if you're
going to have the game on, you can have it
on for a split second, maybe show it, but you
don't need to have the sound on. Everyone's at a
hockey game. Everyone has phones, there's TVs around that is distracting.
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I mean, yeah, that I think there's not much else
to say. Uh, you know, even it's funny. I was
told I didn't go to the game, but even at
the King's game, you know, it's a little bit different.
Obviously the Kings, you know, Dodgers, they're in the same city.
But I guess after the game they play the Devils,
they lose the game, the Devils are staying on the ice,
on the bench, and they're watching the jumbo tron after
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the game. Sheldon Keef. You could see him looking up
after the game's over, watching the game. So you know,
like Connor McDavid said, you know, it was once in
a lifetime sporting event that transcended everything and you know
was uh, you know everyone was tuning in.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Okay, So were you surprised to hear that? Connor McDavid
was like, oh, I found myself listening to the crowd
like if they cheer to be like, oh it was
a big did a big play happen? Or like him
on the bench looking up and watching the game. Like
for a guy as dialed in as Connor McDavid to
be distracted by that, Did that surprise you?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Uh? Yes, and no. I mean he's like a little
bit because he is contrac David. But and then I
think about him like, well, he is from Toronto, he
is a Jay's fan, so he's definitely Can you have
felt that way actually following it? What if I have felt?
What that if?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
If something was playing like that during your game, which
is like, how would you have felt like curing another game?
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, it would kind of you be like I think
I would be watching it, and then you would kind
of come to and be like, holy shit, I'm in
I'm fucking playing in my own game right now. I
can't be watching this game. I think that's what he
was referring to, and I get that. I've had a
couple I can't remember a time or a game, but
I've had different situations where I played for a team
and there's a big, a big game on from another
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sport that they'll play for you know quickly. But that's
completely different what he said. You know, they literally were
playing the sound of the game at the game. That's
that's crazy to.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Me when you can't strange. It's like someone scores a
goal and like no one's really cheering, but then like
something else randomly happens and the crowd goes well, and
you're like, wait, what did did I miss something that
happened in the game, Like oh no, they're watching another game.
Yeah yeah, and I get the cut ins, like you know,
maybe after a whistle you could like boom, put it
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on or like update or TV timeout or everyone, as
you said, has phones. But it's like, I just I
was shocked to even hear that they had it playing
when he said it's bizarre, but also he knows what
a game seven is, Like it's true, like the feeling
too of being gutted, Like there's got to be a
lot of weird emotions anyway, I just I didn't you
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say that. In the game in La they played it too.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
They did, and they were playing. You could I was
watching the game a little bit on TV and you
could hear Jim Fox and Candennico on the other side.
They were talking about the Dodgers and then talking about
the play at the same time as it's going on.
So everyone was tuning in to LA.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Wasn't complaining about it that, No, No.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
They were they were happy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, you got to be a hockey baseball broadcaster in
that moment, like you're calling one game and you're also
telling people what's happening another one. It's a moment we
have not seen before and we will maybe never see again.
But this has been great to be able to ask
you questions today on how this might feel if you
were possibly in any of these positions as it relates
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to the hockey baseball crossover and everything that has happened
in the world of sports. So we thank Nate Thompson
for all of his insight as always and analysis. This
has been energy line with Nate and JSB. Thank you, Julia,
Oh you're well. That was very kind of you. And yes,
thank you Nate for saying thank you to me. That's
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my Canadian. I would trow here and thank you to
Jordan Eberley for joining us, and of course thanks to
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Hello and Welcome on into Energy Line with Nate jsp
I'm Julie starpinks he's a former NHL or Nate Thompson.
Energy Line is a production of iHeart Podcasts and the
NHL tom Or. A lot has gone on since we
last talked, including you sending us a photo of your
black eye, which you have right now. So what happened, Bud?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, just training jiu jitsu and sometimes limbs fly all
over the place. And I didn't even realize I had
a black guye until I was like leaving the gym
and I saw in the in my car in the mirror.
I'm like, oh, that's gonna leave Mark, And sure ship,
there it is. I got nice little shiner. Uh, forty
one years old, retired hockey player walking around with a
black guy because I like to train jiu jitsu. So
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what are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
It was a trip down memory lane for you, I'm sure.
But what you just said there like you weren't even
you didn't even notice you had a black eye. Is
that what a black guy feels like?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Or No?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Is that just because you're you've had so many.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I've had a few more than a few. Uh yeah,
I guess it just felt like kind of puffy. Like
I was like, hmm, something feels a little swollen around
my eye. And I looked and I looked at the mirror.
I'm like, yeah, that's gonna be. That's going to be
a shiner. I've had a few of those, and like
I said, there it is. But it's you know, it's uh.
I guess it fits the territory a little bit. Maybe
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not I am retired.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Maybe, I mean you were you were doing jiu jitsu.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Sure that's true.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
We understand the circumstance. You weren't just going to home
hardware or whatever, like you fell into a doorknob or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I mean, it could be like Wilder hit me too.
I mean, she's she gets rough. It could have been
not too your two year old. I gave you a
black guy. I mean, not out of the question. We've
seen she's got some pretty good strength.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
She's working on there, getting her young athlete, getting your
going early, I can tell. Okay, So speaking of athletes,
first of all, I'm just it's wild that a black
guy just doesn't even hurt. But I think that might
just be the Nate Thompson factor that we have here
on I don't ever want to know, but I'm going
to take your word for it. So, speaking of a
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lot going on right now in the NHL schedule, we're
hitting November. We are inching closer and closer to that
elusive American Thanksgiving date where it is the playoff indicator
of whether teams are real or not. I did hear
Elliott Friedman from Sports and At discuss that November is
his sort of timeline of when apparently teams that are
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not in a playoff position at this point only ten
have made it into the playoffs in like the last
seventy years or something ridiculous like. So basically, the big
picture is, if you're not good now, the chances of
you being good later are very very slim. And we
know a lot of our listeners may or may not
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have been extremely dialed into hockey over the last few weeks.
I'm talking about people in Canada, I'm talking about people
in Los Angeles, And you know, this isn't a baseball podcast,
and I'm certainly not going to touch on it. Because
something happened this weekend. It was a Game seven, and
all I'm going to say is congratulations to the Los
Angeles Dodgers for going back to back in the World
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Series and what was arguably one of the most insane,
craziest I don't know what banana sandwich games of all time.
We're not going to go into it right now because
what we are going to go into date is a
term in baseball. We heard a lot three up, three down,
and we want to know, Nate, your three best teams,
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that's the three up and the three down. Are your
three os teams out of any indication factor that you
feel is important for your ranking.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
First off, Julie, we will get into that. I will
ask how you were doing after I get into this.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Uh hockey, first hockey first first.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I will discuss your emotions after this. Yes, my three
up for sure are going to be Tampa Tampa Bay Lightning,
the Anaheim Ducks, and the New York Rangers are my
three up. I really like the way the Rangers are played,
especially to finish out that road trip. I thought they
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they just played good, good hockey and they got big
contributions from JT. Miller, Will Cooley, former guest on the
Pod of Energy, line, some big goals there. And then
you go to Tampa, who's won five in a row,
and they get a big win against Utah yesterday. I
watched a game, good game, really good hockey game. Sorelli
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and Hagel starting to get catch fire. Now, you know,
they're starting to the right way. Things are starting to click.
We knew Tampa was going to come back and play
the way they need to play, but that that's the
team that we all know well. And then and Anaheim Ducks.
I mean, look at this Anaheim Ducks team. These young
guys are coming through counter Gochy scores again yesterday, Leo
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Carlson's leading the way, Lucas Dostall, I mean, they get
a big win against New Jersey at home yesterday. I mean,
this team, they look good. And Pat Verbeek looks like
a genius right now. So those are my three up.
They're all looking real nice for the playoffs. They're playing
good hockey to start the season. My three down. Oh,
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I'm gonna start with the Kings. You know, they've just
been average really and that's kind of indicative of their
record and what's happening. You know, they've had a lot
of overtime games, shootout games, and I don't know if
that's a good sign or not. You know, I think
based on their record, I don't think it is. I
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think they can play much better. No offense to Corey Perry.
I love the worm, but he's probably their best player
right now and that probably can't be the case. And
then the next two teams are Vancouver and Saint Louis.
Start with Saint Louis. Saint Louis, it's tough because they
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made the playoffs last year. They go on that run,
they lose the way they do to Winnipeg, and this year,
I don't know what team we're watching. I mean, this
is it's it's bad. It's a catastrophe right now and
they're they're in serious trouble. So I'm not gonna get
too deep into that because we could spend a whole
episode on that.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Then we'll go to Vancouver. Vancouver's banged up. They're really
banged up. They're kind of puttering along, but they're my
other team that's down because without Quinn Hughes in the lineup.
But I just don't know if they can even tread water.
It's just tough for them. To even keep it keep
a float. So those are my three up and three down,
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Julie and strike three strikes out, three strikes, you're out, strikeout,
strikes out, three strikes, you're out. Yeah, bring it to baseball.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Hey, look, you know we're we're experimenting with different themes
here on the show. I think those are some very
interesting picks. I think the three ups were harder, were
easier to pick. The three downs. There's a lot of
there's a lot of teams you could kind of be
like that, they that are not doing great, that don't
look very consistent. The Blues, I'm agreeing with you on
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one hundred thousand percent. Absolutely, Like it's infuriating. I'm sure
for Saint Louis fans to watch this. It felt like
they were going to be going in a better direction,
you know, signing different players, shoring up the defense. They're
deeper at center, they have a lot of skill, they're
in their prime. Jordan Bennington, is he even going to
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make the Olympic team after he was the starting goalie
for Team Canada at the Four Nations? Like this is
getting pretty bad out there. Seven straight losses and not
going in the right direction. So I agree with you
on that. I also put the Flames in there as well.
We know that they're not doing well. They've been like
bad since the beginning. Dustin Wolf hasn't had, you know,
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the start that we all thought, I'd say. And then
I also had the Wild and the Predators both in
there because the Wild's power place cooled off. Maybe the
Carill capris Off NHL contract might have cooled things off too.
I'm surprised too, because I thought that we were going
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to see them go that that emoji that has the
graph going up. That's what I felt Minnesota would be,
and we thought Predators too. By the way, I can't
say the Predators without thinking about the S and L
sketch from this past weekend, which was amazing. If you
haven't seen it, just go on Instagram. They talk about
hockey just different.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I saw it. It was good.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, yeah, it was great. We love we love a
crossover between entertainment and hockey, and we've seen it with
Brady she of course being in the Let's do that
Hockey sketch, of which we have talked to him about
and we will get to on this podcast at some point.
Three up. I want to I definitely want to match
your your Tampa Bay Lightning. I like to just note
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that I was there for the beginning of the comeback,
of which I will call myself JSB slopbuster. Yeah, yeah,
I'm They don't call me JSB for nothing, So you know,
I went down to Tampa and got them going on
there on their run. So I'd like to take credit
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for that. But I think that all of these exaggerations
of andre Vazilewsky's like is he good? Is he not?
Like I think it was overrated at the beginning because
he's allowed only four goals in the last three games,
and that's that's pretty good. And it seems like things
are coming together. I mean, Koudrov obviously hitting the milestones,
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one thousand points, the headman stuff, Guys just getting back
into a flow. Remember they were so good in the preseason,
then they got all banged up, and it just seemed
like they're kind of taking off of the course they're on.
I did have I like that you put the New
York Rangers in there, because I think they deserve it.
Three wins right now in a row. I also had
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I do like the Ducks course, I think they've been
so fun to watch. That offense is just explosive defensively,
still a little question marks there, but the vibes are
completely different. I will say I did talk to one
of my former coworkers who said there is some addition
by subtraction there. So I thought that was a very
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fascinating thing that maybe we can dive into on another
part of this podcast. But you can think about guys
that may have left last year who play on different
teams now and how that might have changed the vibes
on this team. Trevor's all right, okay, so, but then
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I also put in Winnipeg Jets and Colorado Avalanche.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Those are good ones, both of those, both those teams.
It was it was hard for me to leave the
Jets or Colorado just the way some of those guys
are playing on both those teams.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Good picks it, yeah, right, It's like it's like there's
more good Well no, I just said there's more bad
teams and good teams, but there's a lot of there's
a lot of really good teams too, especially Colorado now
and in the Devil's eight game win streak, and a
lot of yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That and a lot of and and look at look
at even Pittsburgh. Look at month of October. Look at
the Pittsburgh peing was you're the best team in the
month of October. There's another one. I mean, that was
another one I wanted to bring up too. Yeah, there's
so many.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
You cannot bet on the NH You cannot bet on hockey. No,
you can't. You cannot bet on hockey because it is
just an insane asylum of things that go on. Like
if someone told us the Pittsburgh Penguins were like the
best team at some point in end of October, you'd
be like, no way, jose Right, how I know?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, speaking of October, and remember we were going to
touch on your emotions in this last weekend, right, how
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah? So, you know what, I felt a lot of
these emotions before because I come from the city of Toronto.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
That was the best baseball I've ever watched in my life.
And I've believed it or not. I've watched a lot
of baseball at different points in my life, and that series,
the way everyone played, the different players that had to
come in, I mean, I feel terrible for every person
in Toronto. I don't know what you guys did to
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you can't deserve all of this over and over. But
what a series. It was incredible. I think you have
to I Julie, I think you had like to be
a Toronto fan and to witness that and to be
a part of it. I mean you have to be
kind of grateful too, like that was pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh, I mean for them to be there, it's hard
to have perspective in the moment, but it's like the
Jays weren't even supposed to be there and then to
be a part of like this insane history making game.
And you know, at the end of the day, like
some people be like, oh, well, the Jays were a
better team or they had so many more opportunities, but
it's like, but the Dodgers won it. And that's what
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sports is. It's those moments, right And for you, Nate,
I got to ask you, like these baseball players felt
a lot like hockey players in some regard, because like
George Springer's basically up there like weekend at Bernie's. He
can't even do anything and remind me of like what
you guys have to go through in the playoffs. Did
you ever feel kind of some similarity? Is that all?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah? I mean, I've had see I've never won, so
I've never been on a championship team at the NHL level,
but I've been in game seven's and lost game sevens
and have felt that heartache and I know that feeling,
and I know, I guess the one that comes to
mind in a close game seven would be when I
was in Tampa and we lost to Boston in Game
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seven and it was same, I guess, same, same feeling. Yeah,
it was zero zero hockey game, the whole game up
until six minutes left. Not one penalty was called the
whole game too. It was a complete five on five game,
the whole game. And yeah, you know they go on
to win the Stanley Cup to be Vancouver. So I mean, yeah,
those game sevens after feeling that they score, it's a
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I'll be completely honest, those I feel for the Blue
Jays guys, the coaching staff, players, everyone, because you are depressed.
You are one hundred percent in depression after that because
you put everything into it. You know, obviously you're physically
you're putting everything into it, but the mental part of
it is the most is the hardest park is it's
such a roller coaster. So I think Blue Jays players.
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They should be extremely proud for the season they had.
I've been there. That's it's hard. It's hard to go
through that because you also relive it in your head.
And unfortunately, you'll relive that in your head for the
rest of your life because I still relive certain moments
in my head. It's just it's just the way it is.
But incredible series and that's sports.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Like we said, oh man, that is deep, reliving in
your head for the rest of your life. I'm sorry
that you have to deal with that, and that all
players that are in that situation will have to deal
with that. One quick question before we move on, can
you take us inside the locker room after losing a
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big moment like that, and just for any for all
everyone listening who wouldn't have any idea what that's like?
What is it like?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It's I guess the best way to describe would be
if you walked into a locker room after it would
feel like someone died, probably like it. You know, you
walk in there and it's quiet. You know, some guys
are consoling each other, some guys are crying, some guys aren't. Uh,
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it's it's it's usually very very quiet though, and not
a lot of and not a lot of said. Maybe
some guys will say something, you know, to ease the pain,
but I guess the best way to put it and
candidly is, yeah, it feels like somebody died when you
walk in that locker room after it's it's a tough,
tough feeling because you know, you put everything into it,
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like I said, and then it's over, just like that,
you know, And I think that's what it is. I
think that's part of it too, Juliet, is you know
it's not just losing and all that, but you're also
the season's done. You know, you had the whole season
with these guys. You know, you become kind of a family,
become very close with these guys, and now it's going
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to change and you know that, you know the team's
not gonna be the same next year. And there's part
of that feeling too, where it's like, Okay, this is over,
this chapter's done, and now we have to move on.
So there's a lot of loss. This is what it is. Heavy.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I'm sorry for asking you that question. I was like, yeah,
is Nate gonna cry? Are going to cry? Are we
all just like this is. It just feels like it's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It's hard. Yeah, it's hard. I mean I almost got
emotional thinking about because yeah, you go back to these
moments of when you you know, when you lose and
and that's why they say, you know, you you learn
a lot more from from losing than you do winning.
And in those moments, uh, you do you learn to
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say the least.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Well, thank you for sharing that with us, because I
know that probably isn't easy, but I know that people
will empathize with you for having to deal with that
and having such a high high being in a game seven.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah. But then, but like you said, it puts it
into a perspective for people to know what, you know,
players feel in every sport like the Blue Jays mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And then by sort of I guess the runoff of
Toronto fans feeling like that too, so they don't ever
want to the kids like touching a hot stove. You're like, no,
game seven, I'm not touching a Game seven ever. Again,
that's how I felt, certainly, just to bring this back
into a ha haha sort of vibe of Toronto is
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a tough place to be from for any sport. But
we got the Raptors in twenty nineteen, and we will
hang our hat on that for the rest of our life.
All right, Well, we're going to hang our hat on
the fact that we got an incredible interview with none
other than Seattle Kraken Captain Jordan Eberley, and he is
going to be joining us on the other side of
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this break to discuss his NHL season on and off
the ice. Don't go anywhere. This is energy line with
Nate and JSB. We're now joined by Jordan Everley from
the Seattle Crack and Captain and you're here now. Got
to ask you a question that I have just met
Julie start Binks. Is when people ask you where you're from,
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how do you describe.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
It to them?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Well, I say Regina and just say it right out no,
and then I have to explain where that is most
of the time, especially in the States, because I think
they think it's Regina because there's a spot in an
American named Regina, but Regina. And then I usually followed
up with have you been and they say, you know, no,
and I said, you don't have to go.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
It's not the nicest place, but it's home.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That because I lived there for a couple of years
of work sports there and I always say, oh, yeah,
I worked in a place. It's above North Dakota and
a place called Saskatchewan. They go, well, what's it called?
And then I say, Regina. You know, everyone like loses
their mind, so it's you know, city rhymes with fun.
But you know a couple of Regina kids here, Yeah,
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SASKI right here.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I have to ask, you know, I played junior in
Seattle and you know, lived there for a bit, and
how is he that'll have been so far? Living there
for you, it's it's been great.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I've loved it.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I love being from the west. Obviously being back on
the West Coast, I love it's closer for family. I've
had two kids born there. You know, it's kind of
just it's become home for us. We love getting outdoors.
I think, as you know, when it's when you can
see it, when it's not gloomy and dark, it hits
it's beautiful with Mount Rainier and the ocean, the lakes,
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the mountains, it's it's a visually gorgeous And then the
fans have been amazing. I think they've the building they built.
First off, it's amazing, and then the fans have kind
of gotten behind us from day one. So really enjoyed
my time there.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
It's such a big sports city too, Like I've been
there a lot for Seattle Sounders stuff, Like you guys,
do you feel that with like some of the other
fan bases because they're so raucous I noticed, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, I mean I was a Seahawks fan before I
got there, and knowing the twelfth Man, the passion they
have for sports, it's yeah, we get it too. And
I know it's nice too because you know, I played
in Edmonton for a long time too, and they're obviously
very passionate. But there they're hockey there as well. But
you can get you can get away in Seattle a
little bit, which I love Edmonton. It was tough to
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get away, but you get the experience of the fans
being passionate, but you're also able to get away, which
I really enjoy some good music.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, Seattle as well. I remember I was a big
Pearl Jam fan. Yeah, so being you know, playing junior there.
Mike McGready actually played the guitar or played the national
anthem on the guitar at one of our games. Once,
which was incredible. So is there. I know you're a
music guy. You played the guitar. So being in Seattle,
have you got the venture out a little bit in
the music scene. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I mean obviously big Pearl Jam fan pro fighters Levon
obviously got their start there. I've gotten to know just
through golf, even just playing the pad onhand a train.
We've hung out and played a little bit together. Actually,
for my thousand game, Eddie Vedder game a ukulele signed
came down.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, so I was like, you know, meeting him, and
I named my dog after Eddie Vedder, So yeah, I'm jealous.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Of Yeah, actually you and uh and Teddy Teddy too.
And you know what's funny is I told because I
played with Teddy and I knew Teddy had named him
Eddie or Vetter. And when I was talking to him,
what did you how did you say?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
We were in the back. He's a very humble guy.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
This is Teddy Purcell we're talking about to play.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Anyways, so I'm talking to Eddie Vedder and I'm telling
him about you know, Teddy name his dog after when
we're going through that, and he's like, you're Pearl Jam
or he's like your music fan, like Pearl Jam was like, yeah,
like you're Pearl Jam.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
This is like me meeting a c d C. This
is a highlight for me. He was a humble guy. Awesome.
He loves hockey though.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
That's something great for you to have there.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I mean, like.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
To talk about the hockey.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, we just want to talk about Edig Vetter and
all that kind of stuff. We know that case. So
you mentioned Edmonton. Of course you played for the Islanders
with Laine Lambert and can you just describe for us,
like and for people who wouldn't know what your relationship
with him is like and what what that's meant to
you in your career.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, well we I mean I had him in in
uh in Long Island for three years. You know, I
credit him and Barry Trotz for sure, for you know,
as a young guy came into the league, you know,
I solely focused on offensive side of the buck.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I didn't even you know, I didn't put a lot of.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Emphasis as a winger on wallplay's defensive zone, you know,
blocking shots, that sort of thing. And you know credit
them with you know, teaching me how to you know,
play the right way, you know, try and develop more
of my two hundred foot game and still not Oh
you know, obviously there's always room for provement, but I
like to think of myself a lot more of it,
more of a two hundred foot game, and that those
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kind of style we played in Long Island, and you know,
we obviously had some success there too, you know, back
to back conference finals, almost getting into the Cup a
couple of times. So when we when he when he
hired him to be our coach and c Yeah, I
was excited, I think first and almost just the structure
that he brings in the I call it the Barry
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shrots Lane Lambert system, but the details of how to
play the right way, and then the intensity, so I
thought he was those are all things that we were
kind of lacking the last couple of years, and you know,
I knew that he would do a good job bringing
and then just the passion, like I said, that he
has of winning. I think as you get older, that's
kind of the only thing that matters in your mind.
And you know we feel the same way.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
No, let's bring things back to music here, of course,
and we know what the Islanders you guys created that
Islanders fight song, the hit Islanders fight song, and so
we were curious. We were just talking here and our
producer Matt was brought up the idea, like, have you
guys on the kracking come up with something?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I wrote a song like our first year didn't. I mean,
we weren't very good team, so it didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
But wait, wait, wait, wait, okay, you wrote a song
in first year.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, I've done it with a couple of teams just
like we're talking and very preliminary, funny stuff of each guy.
Just you know, you get bored on the road. You
had a lot of time too, you know, so it's like,
what do you do? The islander on was a lot
better because you're a good team and Barzi and Leezy
helped me and we were I mean, like I said,
you got a lot of time in your hounds.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You just you write fun. They're not good songs if
that's what you're looking for there, they're number.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Oh we don't, you know, we're not looking for good
We just love effort our energy line here. So before
you go into the next one, just can you tell
us what's your inspiration when you write it?
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Like, no Honestly, a lot of the times I take,
you know, songs that uh you know, chorus lines or
rhythms from all other songs and just change the lyrics.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I think it's that easy.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Smart.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, well it worked because I was playing on the
Flyers at that time and when they beats in the
Bubble in seven games, so that song, obviously we were
done going home. Yeah. Can you talk about your relationship
with the Matt Barzel because I know you guys kind
of created that song together. Yeah, in the Bubble, So
can you you know, relationship with.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Him, Well, I mean, he's a little bit younger than me,
but we we came into Long Island at the same time,
so it was kind of weird of the new guys.
He was a rookie, I had just gotten traded there.
We played together the whole year pretty much together, so
we just, you know, we became close. We're both Western
Canadian kids.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Love golf.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
He he didn't play music at the time. I'd play
I played guitar, but he got into it.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
He loves it now. He's definitely a guy I still
keeping tabs with.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
It was nice to see him yet last night when
I got in and hadn't seen him for a couple
of years, just with last year I missed out.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
He got hurt.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I got hurt.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
So, you know, I think there's there's as you know,
there's guys you you become close with on certain teams.
You know, most of your teams you are close with,
but more guys out, like some guys more than not.
You know, we sat beside each other. It's just kind
of a perfect storm. So you know, it was it
was fun to see him. He's obviously seen a pretty good,
pretty good hockey player. He's fun to watch when he's
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out there.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
So he was on that serious again. He was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
So yeah, he's very very good, right, And I mean
you just mentioned they're, you know, having gone through the
injury last season, and I mean, my gosh, just reading
about it alone or like wow, like it just kept
going next thing and then your wife was pregnant and
like having the baby. I mean, tell us what what
that was like to go through and kind of maybe
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what you've taken from having gone through.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, I mean it was.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yeah, I've had lots of injuries, this one was different.
The fact that they couldn't really give me an answer,
if I'd be able to play hockey again, which is
scary to start with, and then you know, trying to
figure out what the best course of action to fix it,
having the surgery coming out, and then I had to
basically line a bed for two months not move, and
then we.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Had our third baby. Yeah, it was it was a lot.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
I mean, ultimately the way it turned out, I was
pretty happy with the way I feel in the ice now,
you know, I feel back to normal. So I yeah,
from looking back to when they told me they couldn't
really give me an answer if I'd be able to
skate normally again or play, and now how I feel,
I mean, it's gone amazing.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Wow, that's scary. I'm sure to have heard that.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. And Jordan, like, it's crazy we
were talking about before you came in here. You know,
you came to the league so young. You're thirty five
now and you're captain of Seattle. Like, you know, it's
been impressive. You had an illustrious career. Describe yourself as
a captain for Seattle and how you kind of lead is,
you know, for for that team.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yeah, I've kind of just I mean I've had a
lot of good mentors and guys that I've you know,
played with and guys I looked up to, and you
just try to take ted tidbits from each. I mean
I looked into when I first came in the league,
Sean Horkoff and the way that he conducted himself, his
competitive level. It wasn't matter of his practice, golf, table tennis, whatever,
he wanted to beat you in. It his work ethic,
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and you know, you try to take that in his
and then his personality of bringing the young guys. I
mean as a as a twenty two year old, he
was bringing me on golf trips and I thought that
was special.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I was going on trips with.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
You know, thirty three year olds and learning them, going
to the island, playing with the Honors Lee and just
you know, he's got this goofy, funny side and then
he's got you know, you try to take little things
from each guy that you've taken. But ultimately, you know,
as I've gotten a little older and just experience, I
think the biggest thing is just trying to show guys
what it is to be a pro and showing up
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at the rink ready to work and putting in your time,
but also enjoying it. I think you talk to any
guy as you probably missed the locker more than you
miss Game forty two, right, So you know, you try
to embrace the moments of being around with your teammates
and all of that just builds into hopefully a competitive
team and you know, battling for one another a little
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bit more and enjoying each other's company.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And as a leader, I think you can try to
unite the group a little bit. It comes along with
it too.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
As the older guy, and I can relate to that,
you know, being an older guy in the league, is
it you know, everything, all these little things like practice,
and is it a little bit more of a grateful
appreciative you know, getting to experience it.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, you know, you do. You do, you enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
It goes by quickly. You try to, you know, be
a little bit more present. You try to, you know,
soak it in a little bit more. I think there's
obviously ups and downs start of season as a team.
You goes through good times, you guys were bad. Try
to meet in the middle, and you try to not
embrace both sides of it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I mean, we're so grateful to be able to have
you here, talk with you, listen to you know, what
makes you tick and everything with being a captain. I
think that's great that you've taken things from every guy
that you've been around. And I mean, it seems like
Seattle has just got a really great culture there. I've
never been yet for a game, but I love that
city and I think that it's fantastic that you're back.
You're feeling healthy, and we were really surprised that you're
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thirty five years old. I remember when you were playing
in World Juniors.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I'm like, oh, man, that goes by quick.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, that's It's a good check for how we are now, right,
but hey, we're still here, we're doing it. Grateful for it.
So thank you so much Jordan for joining us.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, thanks having me appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Welcome back to Energy Line with Natan JSB. Thank you
so much to Jordan Everly for his time and discussing
everything Seattle, Kraken and beyond and we know that. Of course,
this past weekend there was a big Game seven that happened,
and someone who has played in a Game seven before,
Connor McDavid, he had some thoughts about the Blue Jays
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and Dodgers game being played during the Edmonton Oilers game
with the sound on and even some fans cheering, let's
go Blue Jays. Let's listen to that now.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I want to ask you about the focus and trying
to play this game. When they're showing the Jay's game on,
fans are cheering JS, like, what was that?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Like?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
That was really really strange.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Obviously, we're all all on the Jay's bandwagon and everybody's
wanting them to win, and it is so disappointing obviously,
but strange strange to have it on during the game.
Listening to the crowd was distracting for sure. I'm glad they,
uh thanks shot it off there for.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
The third when when you know they're showing, they're showing it.
Not only showing it, but they're showing it. Was sound
during the TV time ups as well. Yeah. That it
was bizarre. Yeah, it was bizarre. It was bizarre.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
I found myself watching the Jay's game sitting on the bench,
you know, listening to the crowd while I'm on the ice.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
You know what just happened? It was. It was very strange.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
All right, Nate, you just heard occonnor mc david said
he didn't didn't hold back on his opinions.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
What what do you think somebody's in trouble. I'll tell
you that someone's in trouble. Connor McDavid speaks up. I mean,
I I agree with him. I think that if you're
going to have the game on, you can have it
on for a split second, maybe show it, but you
don't need to have the sound on. Everyone's at a
hockey game. Everyone has phones, there's TVs around that is distracting.
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I mean, yeah, that I think there's not much else
to say. Uh, you know, even it's funny. I was
told I didn't go to the game, but even at
the King's game, you know, it's a little bit different.
Obviously the Kings, you know, Dodgers, they're in the same city.
But I guess after the game they play the Devils,
they lose the game, the Devils are staying on the ice,
on the bench, and they're watching the jumbo tron after
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the game. Sheldon Keef. You could see him looking up
after the game's over, watching the game. So you know,
like Connor McDavid said, you know, it was once in
a lifetime sporting event that transcended everything and you know
was uh, you know everyone was tuning in.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Okay, So were you surprised to hear that? Connor McDavid
was like, oh, I found myself listening to the crowd
like if they cheer to be like, oh it was
a big did a big play happen? Or like him
on the bench looking up and watching the game. Like
for a guy as dialed in as Connor McDavid to
be distracted by that, Did that surprise you?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Uh? Yes, and no. I mean he's like a little
bit because he is contrac David. But and then I
think about him like, well, he is from Toronto, he
is a Jay's fan, so he's definitely Can you have
felt that way actually following it? What if I have felt?
What that if?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
If something was playing like that during your game, which
is like, how would you have felt like curing another game?
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, it would kind of you be like I think
I would be watching it, and then you would kind
of come to and be like, holy shit, I'm in
I'm fucking playing in my own game right now. I
can't be watching this game. I think that's what he
was referring to, and I get that. I've had a
couple I can't remember a time or a game, but
I've had different situations where I played for a team
and there's a big, a big game on from another
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sport that they'll play for you know quickly. But that's
completely different what he said. You know, they literally were
playing the sound of the game at the game. That's
that's crazy to.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Me when you can't strange. It's like someone scores a
goal and like no one's really cheering, but then like
something else randomly happens and the crowd goes well, and
you're like, wait, what did did I miss something that
happened in the game, Like oh no, they're watching another game.
Yeah yeah, and I get the cut ins, like you know,
maybe after a whistle you could like boom, put it
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on or like update or TV timeout or everyone, as
you said, has phones. But it's like, I just I
was shocked to even hear that they had it playing
when he said it's bizarre, but also he knows what
a game seven is, Like it's true, like the feeling
too of being gutted, Like there's got to be a
lot of weird emotions anyway, I just I didn't you
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say that. In the game in La they played it too.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
They did, and they were playing. You could I was
watching the game a little bit on TV and you
could hear Jim Fox and Candennico on the other side.
They were talking about the Dodgers and then talking about
the play at the same time as it's going on.
So everyone was tuning in to LA.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Wasn't complaining about it that, No, No.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
They were they were happy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, you got to be a hockey baseball broadcaster in
that moment, like you're calling one game and you're also
telling people what's happening another one. It's a moment we
have not seen before and we will maybe never see again.
But this has been great to be able to ask
you questions today on how this might feel if you
were possibly in any of these positions as it relates
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to the hockey baseball crossover and everything that has happened
in the world of sports. So we thank Nate Thompson
for all of his insight as always and analysis. This
has been energy line with Nate and JSB. Thank you, Julia,
Oh you're well. That was very kind of you. And yes,
thank you Nate for saying thank you to me. That's
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my Canadian. I would trow here and thank you to
Jordan Eberley for joining us, and of course thanks to
our producer Matt Heva and all of you for listening, sharing, liking,
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies!
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