September 23, 2025 • 51 mins
Nate Thompson and Julie Stewart-Binks launch Energy Line’s season preview with everything from Arizona’s expansion talk to Anze Kopitar’s retirement news. They also discussed two stars getting a bit chippy with the media and Bernie Parent’s legacy, before welcoming current Flyers defenseman Travis Sanheim to the show. Sanheim shared some great stories about playing with Sidney Crosby at Four Nations and touched on his close friendship with Travis Konecny, before Nate and JSB played a game of 2025 pick 'em.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Energy Line is a production of the NHL and I
Heeart podcasts. Welcome on into the Energy Line with Nate
(00:26):
and JSB and NHL and iHeart Production.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm Julie Sharbinks. He's a former.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
NHLer, Nate Thompson and Nate Welcome on into Did you
have your fight last week?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I did not. I didn't get a match. Sometimes when
they're trying to match guys up with you know, age, belt, level, weight,
all those things, it just didn't work out. And actually
I was feeling a little bit under the weather this
weekend too, so it probably worked out that I didn't.
I didn't have my fight, But that's okay. Next one,
I'm trying to maybe go in the next month or
maybe the end of October early November. There's a couple
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more so I'll have some more opportunities.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, Universe had your back up that one.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No one wants to be fighting well while sick, unless
I guess you're Michael Jordan in that sense, but especially
your first one.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, I mean, well technically not my first one, but
my uh because I had one a year ago last
May or previous May. But yeah, no, this would be
my first in this league where it's like the whole
you know, yeah, production and the walkout song and all
that you right, right?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Did you had you had you died about that walkout song?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yet?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, I thought about doing this is crazy, this is
funny in your laugh. I thought about going out to
teach me how.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
To Doug you oh.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That coming out and doing it and like doing a
quick little Dougie dance and then going on the meat.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yet, were you channeling a little killer there.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
A little bit?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, as in Doug.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Gilmour obviously, Yeah, yeah, sure, because that song is clearly
about Doug Gilmore. That's all I thought when that kid
song came out, that's a good one. That's a really
random one for walkout song, but yeah, I think that's I.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Just thought maybe I could dance with it, as I.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, you could dance with it, right, like, yeah, you
could dance. Instead of a walkout song, it could be
a dance out song, right, like who's saying?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
And I like to dance, Julie. So it's like, you know,
it makes sense?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Okay, good? I love it. Music is life. I love
that so much.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I mean, was how was your weekend?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Great?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I mean, gosh, I can't even remember one day from
the next. My life is just an absolute chaotic wheo
of fortune. I had the opportunity of going to Mark
Messier and his company Game seven, of which we profiled
here on this show last season. The jersey patch that
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they're going to have on the Rangers this year. They're
the first official jersey patch sponsor in Rangers history.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Like he was there, obviously, Stefan Matteau was there, Lunquist,
Heinrich Lnquist was there, and a bunch of other sort
of people players, everything like that. And I mean, like
Messi ies we know, is just the biggest heart of gold,
Like yeah, and he's just always so happy, and I'm
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really pumped for him because he's been working really hard
on this company that is also creates documentaries with Amazon,
and Game seven has just kind of been going up
and up and up and doing so many different things.
So mean that is amazing, like brand recognition. And I
was actually then thinking like how much would it cost
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for like energy line with Nate and JSB just to
put it on.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
A jersey, right, because that would be really good promotion
for us.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
That would be a good promotion. I mean, Game seven
coming from the moose Mark Messe himself is would be
pretty pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, so I'm looking into Jersey patches. If there's any
teams listening that would like want Nate and I to
sponsor you, but like don't really expect to hold lot
of money, but like it would be cool. It would
be like nouveaux. It's not TikTok or milk like the
leaf's hat or whatever like that. And then also I
just wanted to mention I do have my twentieth high
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school reunion coming up this weekend. So if that doesn't
feel make you feel old, I don't know what does.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
No kidding, and are you are you attending?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah? I am. I missed a tenue.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, I mean everybody always says my high school reunion's
coming up and then they never go.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Really, I went to an all girls school, so it
should be it should be uh interesting. I'm sure i'll
see some of Speaking of hockey, like I played hockey
with some of the gals on I was a fourth
liner like my whole career. I got I got rookied
with when I was in grade twelve, So I'm speaking
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in Canadian terms here. When I was in grade twelve
I got rookied with the Grade sevens.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Do you know how weird that is? I was like
Billy Madison.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh, I see, I had been a sub on the
team for the years beforehand. Then I finally made the
team in like it in my last year. But yeah,
then I just looked like an idiot. Anyway, Okay, anything
cool coming up this week for you?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yes, I am going to Tampa on Thursday where they're
having a fantasy camp. So I'm going to be a
part of that. Get the gear on again, skate with
a bunch of men's leaguers, help them out, have some practices,
some games. Probably go see a couple exhibition games, Lightning games.
Just hang out in Tampa this weekend. It'll be fun.
I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, they gotta They've got a couple of games against
Florida coming up to next week.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think I think they
play Nashville. Exhibition is Nashville, yes, correct? Yeah, right, it'd
be good. I've been nice little alumni experience. It'll be fun.
I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
That's so much fun. You must have so many alumni things.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, I guess. You're right, I guess I do.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
With like, are you not so busy with alumni stuff?
Having played for nine teams?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Not overly? I guess it depends on the team. You know,
some teams are more involved in the alumni stuff than others.
But Tampa has done an incredible jobs, especially since I've retired,
and even since I had played there, they just they
do a really good job with the community and bringing
in alumni guys. They have a lot of guys that
still live there, so you know, Tampa is one of
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those teams. Obviously, I played there the longest too, so
I have a lot of history there, so I'm looking
forward to be fun. You know, guys like Ryan Alone
the Cavalier, those guys will be there, so oh, Vinnie, Yeah, Vinnie,
it'll be It'll be fun seeing those guys.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I love the vibe a on Tampa too, because they
just because their fans know what winning is and that's
a lot. I've said that here on the show. It's
like when I did it, when I was able to
be the rinkside for my Very Short and listen, I
will talk about this so the day I die, my
Very Short stint on TNT, which was two games until
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I got COVID. Everyone there in Tampa was the nicest
person ever. So on that note, Tampa good vibes alumni,
We'll have to check in on how that all went
for you down south. And speaking of down south, but
maybe a little bit more to the west, We've got
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some news coming out of where Arizona. We thought they
were dead and gone, and they were like no, no, no, no,
we are still here. There are some Arizona expansion plans
that came out on Monday. Maricopa County chairman announced that
Andrea Doane, who is the wife of Shane Doan, will
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serve as the chair of the advisory board as the
city is.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Going to try to bring a team back.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Not sure if it's relocating a team, doubt that would happen,
but like another team. And you know when I it's so,
Shane done is not going to be a part of
this because he still is has one year left on
his contract with the torontom I believe, but Nate, after
everything we've seen with Arizona, and you know, what do
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you think about this?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I think there's still a chance they get a team.
They've been talking about a long time, and it's not
it's not having a team in Arizona that's the problem.
It's the location of the arena and them approving that.
You know, you look back to when they were in
Phoenix and it was like the ronic days of Talkic
days and you see highlights like that place was rock
and it was sold out. They were good. So I
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do think that it's it's achievable for the Coudies or
Arizona whatever they're going to be called. I mean that
they can, they can get a team there. I think
it's just a matter of them approving in the right location,
getting a good arena, you know, because when I played
in the league, like we all know, going to Glendale,
it was it wasn't a good option. It was so
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out of the way, it was so far, there was
nothing close to anything, and everyone had to drive a
long ways to get there. So I do think that
eventually there will be a team in Arizona again. I
think I think the league wants it. You know, you
saw how long they kept them in the league. I
think eventually it'll happen. And to your point about Andrea
Done and Shane Doan, you know, I think that I'm sure,
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Shane Doan's a little involved.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
They don't talk about it at home at all.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
He's like, Wow, what a surprise found out that my
wife is bringing a team tars.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, but still under contract with the least. I get it.
But I think it's good. I think that I think
it'll be good to have a team in Arizona. Again,
I think it's I think it's a plus for the league.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay, yeah, I think that you raised a lot of
great points there, and I think that the biggest part,
and they mentioned this outlined this is it. Number One
finding a suitable ownership group with quote deep pockets. I
think that should be a part of everything that we
asked for in life. Is like, I would like that
with deep pockets meaning obviously lots of cash. Number two,
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crafting a plan to build an arena in a suitable location,
either downtown Phoenix or maybe somewhere else that's Scottsdale where
there's people. I just remember the Hila River arena that
looks like Jilla like it. If you don't know, you
don't know until you hear it. And then a commitment
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to and connection with the community, something none of the
other ownership groups had quote that these are quotes, so
those are all big things. We know this is very
very early early stages. The Atlanta is most likely further along.
There could be other teams and other cities that are
further along than this, but it is At first I
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thought that they were trying to bring Salt Lake back,
like they're like, uhh Utah, like we want it back,
like we want our man back. You can't have it anymore.
And it's like I just thought of like Ryan Smith
being like yet, absolutely, no fucking way.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
No, Utah is not going anywhere. They've done a tremendous
job there, I know.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Do you see their new training facility.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Oh ridiculous. Everything is just top of the line there.
Guys are spoiled for Guys are spoiled playing for Utah
right now.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yes, okay, So we want to also note that Andrei
Kopatar announce his retirement at the start of the year
as he enters his twentieth season. He's in the second
year of a two year contract. So it's an interesting.
First of all, as you said, as I just saw
you snaps to one of the greatest players in the league,
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and I believe a future Hall of Famer. First ballot,
first ballot, first ballot, future Hall of Famer is this
He said he didn't want it to be a distraction
throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I check Mark. I really like that.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
What do you think about maybe the effect it might
have on the rest of the league or the team,
or like, do you think everyone one's now going to
be doing one of those here's your present on Jake Copratar.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No. I think I understand why he did it, And
I think because it's Andre Coepitar, he's the captain, he's
been there for so long. I honestly think that him
coming out with it and saying, Okay, this is my
last year, rather than everyone's speculating all year and talking
about it and asking him over and over and over
and over again every time. And I think now everyone
knows it's you know, it's done right, Like we know
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this is his last year. He can just go play.
He doesn't have to worry about anything. So I respect it.
I respect that he came out and said this is
my last year. You know, they have a still really
good team, like they you never know they have a chance.
You know it's a long season, but you never when
they get to the playoffs, they go on a deep run.
You know, maybe he finishes with a cop. Who knows,
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But I think that you know it, and I think
it gives him opportunities off the ice too. You know,
you announced your retirement, and you know, more companies come calling,
you know, uh in that situation. So I think that, uh,
you know, we're so lucky to be able to witness
a player like this, and and for the people on
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the East Coast, they don't get to see him as much.
I've always talked about the comparison of him and Bergeron,
and it's true, Like he's you know, he's definitely one
of the best players of all time. He's I think
he's still one of players actively with I think over
almost thirteen hundred points. I think it is.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
We're not a numbers podcast, so we're just get he is.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You know, he's, like I said, first ballot Hall of
Famer and a and a great person too. So I
think that, you know, I like the way he handled this,
and I like how he announced it before the.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Season, right, a true captain, right, thinking of his teammates
and also them being asked about this and everything that
you mentioned. And Jeff Merrick had that point on his show,
the sheet about Bergeron and Coca, and like what if
Coopatar had been on the East coast. We're just you
know the world, It's just how it is, folks. We
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see more on the East Coast. There's more eyeballs. It's
very hard to stay. I can't even imagine sometimes like
an Anaheim Dex game, Nate like starting at like ten
thirty eastern here and I'm like, ooh, that's going to
dip into my first rem cycle.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So I don't know if anybody else has like sleep
schedules like me, but it's very difficult.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Well just I mean, just to put in perspective too,
of how good he is. Is like when I was
playing in Anaheim, and you know, we would have those
games against the Kings, and obviously there are huge rival games,
and you know, talking to a guy like Ryan gets Laugh,
who's match up against him all night? And when you
have a guy like gets Laugh talking about how hard
is to play against Anji Copatar and you know, we
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know how good Ryan getz Laugh is and you know
he always just talked about like this guy is just different,
you know, So that puts in perspective how good he
is you know, coming from a guy like that. So yes,
I mean this guy is you know, he just did everything.
He like Bergon, he plays hockey perfectly, right, plays the
game the right.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Way and at a consistently high level for so long.
Because when you think about it, it is kind of crazy.
If we were to say, hey, in twenty twenty five,
twenty twenty six, that would be that last year of
Copatar season back like ten years ago, we'd be like,
what did he was he cryogenically frozen? Like how did
he play that many years? You know, it's just it's
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really remarkable. Also a great guy. He once helped me
get He gave me a game warm jersey and he
signed it and he gave it to my ex boyfriend
for his birthday.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So on that.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Note, we talk about guys who are good with the medias,
some of them that might.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Be a little you know, testy, shall we say.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Earlier this week, Austin Matthews and Jack Hughes I got
a little chippy with the media to set off the pace. Okay,
so let's give some context to this. Austin Matthews was
asked about the fact that Mitch Marner and him, you
know or like who would leave the ice first at
the end of warm ups, Like you know how if
you are watching warm ups and you see the guys
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out there waiting to get off, like who would get
off first? And then I guess maybe there's more to it.
But he said, you have two more weeks and then
we're done with these questions. So we have two more
weeks to talk about Mitch Marner, get your questions in.
You got two weeks, which I think is a pretty
hefty amount of time, and then we're done. I think
that's actually a really cognizant, understandable way that he knows
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the media has to get something done. But he's also
being like, listen, then the season starts, and then we
don't talk about this shit ever again.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
What do you think.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I don't mind it, I respect it. You know, he
knows he plays in a market like Toronto, and he
knows that these questions are going to keep coming. And
he's also the captain of the team, so you know,
I think he's I think it's fair he's giving the
media a runway to ask these questions until the season starts.
Ask you about Martyr as much as you want the
comparisons him in Vegas. How many points is he gonna
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get all of it? You know who? Whatever. But once
the season starts, like we're on the Toronto Maple Leafs,
he's on the Vegas Golden Knights, we don't need to
I don't need to ask those questions about another guy
and a different team. So I understand that I do.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I just see the media now being like we got
two weeks, all right, licking their chops, like, all right,
let's go, what else do we got? You know, we're
gonna now have front page huge spreads about Mitch Marner
because we were given this runway in guide. Okay, now,
flipping the switch a bit, we go to Jack Hughes
from of course the New Jersey Devils, who I would say,
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as somebody living in New York City maybe don't have
as much media around them as say an Austin Matthews.
And he was talking about returning from injury. We know
that he was out last year with an injury that
sidelined him for the remainder of the season once he
had suffered it, and he had I guess, had had
a very pointed when he was explaining it to a reporter,
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which it seemed like a very hockey guy answer like,
oh right, you know, uh, you know, feeling good and
I'm just going to try to do my best blah
blah blah. Then he goes, You've asked me that two
times in one scrum, and it's just sort of like
it felt a little like unnecessary. But this isn't like
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the first time we've seen Jack Hughes kind of like
maybe go at somebody or be a little bit like
too cool for school. In my opinion, as someone who's
interviewed him before, I've never felt like entirely excited slash
like let me just whenever I would interview you, I'd
be like, great, even after a loss, Nate. I know
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Nate's gonna come out here, He's going to be a professional,
and I'm going to ask him questions. I'm not going
to ask him annoying questions because I know that that's
not how things are done in a lass, but like,
you would be a professional answer the questions and he
wouldn't be like why do you pick me after a
loss or be like a little spicy. But I just
feel as though this is par for the course with
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Jack Hughes. I'm not a huge fan of it.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
No, I'm not either, and it's a trend. I understand.
There's so many times when you don't want to answer
certain questions, and you know they might ask a question
that'll strike a nerve or whatever. But guess what, Jack,
this is what you signed up for, man, Like this
is what every other player has to do. You know,
Sidney Crosby, Connor McDavid, all these guys, you know, they
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answer questions, They answer tough questions, they don't give snark
comments back because they're pros and they've been doing this
for a long time. And Sidney Crosby was sought out
after when he was like fourteen fifteen. And I know
I'm comparing it to Sidney Crosby, who's obviously the best.
But I mean, if he can do it, why can't
anyone else do it? I just I don't understand that,
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like the snark comment back part, you know, where it's
like you know, and I'll say this, like it's gonna
make it worse for him. Yes, I think if you
answer it that way right, like you know, from from
a person that's interviewing, Like if a guy is gracious
and asked the right questions, like you might not go
back to him again, because you're like, you know, but
with Jack, you know, I'm gonna get some I'm gonna
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get some sound bites because he comes off like an asshole.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, the irony is that he's now created another story
because he has said that which he doesn't want to
be asked questions or to be probed. And I understand
if it's a situation, especially one that is sensitive or
one that like there's a way to answer questions. Maybe
sometimes people in scrums, you know, they might come in
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late or they're like, okay, maybe they're not sure if
someone's asked this question yet, but we need to get
this on tape. Like I'll run into a scrum in
the Rangers locker room and I'm not sure if well,
you know, he doesn't play there anymore. But like if
Chris Crider had answered it already, I'll be like Chris,
I'd say apologies if you've already And I don't know
if i'd apologize to say, like, you may have already
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answered this, but what do you think about this?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Like you kind of just well, we all know what
our job is here. We're all just.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Trying to fucking make a living. Like you know, we're
just you help me, I'll help you.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
And we don't, you know, kind of fight over one another.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And I and and as you said, the pros have
shown that you can do this job and answer the
questions in a way that's respectful to everyone and it
not be like this.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, and don't get me wrong, like, has there been
a situation where a reporter or someone has asked me
a question that has got me fired up? Yes, of
course it happens, but not all the time, not every interview, right,
Like it's almost every single interview he has some kind
of snart comment. And I like Jack Hughes, I like
him as a player, Like, but come on, kid, Like,
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you can't keep acting like that because it's going to
follow you the rest of your career. Right And I'll
say if if he listens to this, which he for
sure he.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Doesn't, but like he's a big listary Rice.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Jack, Like, just it's not hard to be a nice
guy to media. Just do it. Just answer the questions
and move on and don't act like an asshole because
it's just it's going to follow you in a negative way.
And you're on team You're gonna be on Team USA,
So don't do that. We don't want we don't want
shit like that to follow you in a negative way.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It's basic level of respect. That's pretty much what it is.
I understand if a reporter is getting to you, but
the more that you dig in on it and the
more you go at them, the worse it is going
to be for you. As we said, but I do
want to ask you, Nate, what would be or do
you do you have a memory or some time of
like a reporter asking you a question.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You just be like, oh my god, I want to
rip their head off.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
But you're like, uh, yeah, our penalty kill was an ideal,
Like do you remember anything, Yeah, there was a.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Time in Montreal I think a reporter it.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Was yeah, exactly, Well there we go right there.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, I was for the game we lost. I think
I made a mistake or something like that on a
penalty kill. I didn't get it out or whatever, and
they ended up scoring. And he obviously brought that to light,
but like asked it in a way where it was,
you know, kind of really digging into me. And yeah,
I got annoyed, I got flustered, and I didn't make
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any comment back, but I just kind of gave him
a look, you know, like there was a look and
it was like, hey, are you done with this question,
because I'm I'm not going to keep answering it. And
that was it. He saw the look and that was it.
So I think if Jack in this situation, maybe just
don't say anything. Just give him a stern look and
be quiet. It's better to not say anything to say
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something like that at all.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Exactly, And to that point, first of all, one hundred
percent happens in Montreal. I'm so zero percent surprised that
somebody would have asked you about like the worst moment
of your life and probably like ten times or something
like that. But I also say Sydney Crosby is one
of the best interviews I've ever had of someone who
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says a lot of things without saying anything at all. Yeah,
before we get to our guest coming up on the
show here today, who is a member of the Philadelphia Flyers,
we would just like to send our condolences to the
friends and family of Bernie Parant of course, who is
(24:28):
a Hockey Hall of Famer, passed away last weekend at
the age of eighty and he was a Flyers legend,
took them with two Stanley Cups, won the Stanley Cup
Consmith and Vesna in back to back seasons, and Nate
you played in Philly. What was was was he liked
to sort of that the Broadstreet Bullies, but that entire franchise.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I'm only cross passed a couple of times. But all
those guys that were part of those Cup Cup teams
in Philly are you know, they're legends right there. They're
the ones that everyone hears about the Broadstreet Bullies. And
so you know, Bernie parant Jersey's retired there. I mean,
you just hear story worries about him. How you know
how friendly he was, and I got, like I said,
got to cross pass him a little bit, super nice
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and just you know, obviously unbelievable goalie. And you know,
we we look back on the Flyers and you look
at Bobby Clark and all these guys and Bernie Pronce
another one and those guys that they stick out so
and you and you saw I don't know if you
saw Rick Talcket's interview about him, you know they he
was talking about him and he got emotional and he
brought up the fact that you know when he came
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into the Flyers organization as a young guy eighteen years old.
He said Bernie Purant was was there for him right away,
helped him a lot, support him, talk to him, and
like any other guy that plays in the league, you
always remember that stuff. You remember those guys that help
you out and they you know, they help you in
certain situations when you're a young guy. So rip to
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Bernie pron and definitely Flyers and Hall of Flame legend.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Right well, thank you so much for sharing what it
was like to be there and his impact and of
course what Rick talk It had said. We are pleased
to be able to have someone on the show who
knows what it's like to be a member of the
Philadelphia Flyers here and now in this day and age,
and that is none other than Travis Sandheim coming up
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after the break on Energy Line with Nate and JSB.
All right, we're now very thrilled to be joined by
Travis Sandheim from the Philadelphia Flyers, also one of gold
with Team Canada at the Four Nations.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I'm smiling while to.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Say that because I'm Canadian too, I'm also American as well. Okay,
thank yeah, all right, I've pushed it in Nate's face
a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
But You've had such an amazing year. We were just
talking about it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I mean, like from the Gold from being a part
of like the Phillies Cornerstone to Orientation Camp. Like if
you went back, let's say two years, would you have
imagined you'd be here right now?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
No, definitely not.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
You know, a couple of years ago I was healthy, scratch,
under torts and fears here playing for Team Canada. So
it's been kind of a whirlwind couple of seasons. But uh,
you know it was it was for the better that
I had to go through some of that stuff and
you know now to be a part of what I
was this past season meant a lot to me and
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looking forward to you know, potentially being able to to
do it again at the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Playing for Team Canada. I was there saying getting to
watch it and you know, getting to see you, you know,
put on that Team canadaswit. It was awesome to watch
and you know, going into the Olympic year having that
extra leg and that experience, how do you feel going
in the Olympics, You're having that chance and playing for
team Cannet four nations?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yeah, I think not only being named it to Four Nations.
But I think when I got the opportunity to play
and kind of prove that, you know, I can play
at that level and play against some of the best
players in the world and then go on to win,
I think it did a lot for my game and
the confidence and my belief and you know, I'm excited
to see kind of where my next steps are because
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I think that there's still more there. And you know,
obviously my goal is to make that Olympic team, and
so uh, you know, you obviously got to get off
to a good start, but you know, also looking forward
to to what I can do in Philly and where
our teams headed there.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I saw that you were blogging during like I'm sure
you love that, just like the personal diary on NHL
dot com as well as playing in Four Nations. But
I think it's great for people to get to see
sort of like what it's like for you being there.
And I found it interesting what you had said. I
wrote it down that you said you learned a lot
of lessons that you never would have imagined from guys
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in that locker room.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Can you tell us, like, maybe.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
What's one or two things from some of the guys
in there that that have stuck with you.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I mean I've obviously played with with some really good
players throughout my career and learned lots from them, but
I think just some of those guys that that step
foot in that locker room were kind of, you know,
another level above. And you know, to watch Sitting Crosby
every day and how he prepares, how he handles big
game situations, how calm he is, you know, going into
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overtime in the four Nation Finals and being a part
of that locker room and understanding you know, kind of
those leadership aspects and what goes on in those moments.
You know, I've never been a part of something like that,
and so to kind of live that out and kind
of take from that, I think it goes along ways
and you know, learned a lot of valuable lessons from
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a number of different guys. You could went up and
down that lineup. There's a reason why a lot of
those guys that were on that team that have won before,
you know, they're leaders on their respective teams and you
could see that first firsthand there.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So you mentioned the locker room before overtime, take us
in there, what was that like.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Yeah, it's just you know, it felt like, you know,
just like any other intermission. These guys are calm, They're
they're you know, saying, who's going to be the hero here,
somebody's going to go and you know, do it, and
just the calmness that you know, there was no doubt
that we were going to win that game. And that's
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just how it felt going into it.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
You know, you could feel it from them, the confidence
that they had, and that goes a long ways. Right
when your top guys handle themselves the way that they do,
I think it kind of rubs off from the rest
of the group.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I talked to some guys during that time about practice,
and I'm always intrigued about the practices, and you know,
in those tournaments, and they talked about how, you know,
it was fun playing the games, but they were almost
more impressed with practicing. With everybody talk about that and
who really jumped out at you that you really watching
closely in practices.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah, I think just well, first first couple of practices,
understanding the pace, like that's a whole other level. You
think you're practicing hard and then you see these guys
coming down flying full speed, at you line rushes are
a little bit different. Two on ones, they're different. So
that took a little bit of adjusting to. And and
then on top of that, I think just the work
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that these guys put in after practice. Uh, there's a
reason they're some of the best players in the world.
Their their skill sets, what they what they work on
every day. And then you know, one thing that stuck
out with me was uh was sid Uh. It was
at the end of a skate and you know, I'm
always one of the last guys out there. I you know,
enjoy you know, shooting pucks and kind of working after practice,
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and he comes up to me and uh starts asking
me if you know there's anything I want to work on?
What do you want to do? What do you want
to do? He's like, you want to shoot pucks from
the top whatever. I'm like, yeah, sure, Like is that.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
What you want?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
And he's like no, no, no, no, Like what do you
want to do? And so like that was cool and
like he basically what drill that I created for myself,
he integrated something that he could work on, uh, for
himself while I was working on my drill. And so
like he's doing skating flybys, doing tips, like just just
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different stuff that like I'd never seen before that like
he was just so intelligent that he was able to
create a drill while I was working on what I
needed to work on. And so yeah, that just goes
to show that the work ethic that he has and
and where he's you know, bring us at.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
So I'm in Philly this summer and I'm flying back
to la and my flight's delayed and your general manager,
Danny Briere is on my flight and ended up sitting
sit with him for a little bit, and you know,
he's extremely excited about Rick Talkett being at the head
of the helm here and and coming back to Philly
and and you know, leading you guys, how excited you
guys to have Rick talk by the bench this year.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, well, I think just him being a former player
being a part of the organization, he's already a step ahead.
I think the excitement level that he brings. You know,
he picked us, he wanted to come to Philly, he
wanted he saw something in our group that they made
him want to come and coach our team. And so
I think that's a that's a boost of confidence for
the group. And uh, so I'm excited to see what
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he's going to bring. You know, obviously he's he's coached
a lot, He's on a lot throad his playing career,
his coaching career. He was a part of our four
nation staff. And so just just the knowledge that he's
going to be bringing in UH, and and just the
steps that I think this team is about to take.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
UH.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
We had a lot of young pieces. I think when
you go through a rebuild, there's a lot of guys
that kind of fly under the raider and guys that
don't get recognized. And so I'm excited to see, uh,
you know where where some of these guys take their
game to.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Is there anyone you can point to that maybe could
be one of those guys that could have a BRINKU?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I think Tyson Forrester. I think guy's got a little
bit of a taste at Worlds what he's capable of.
You know, he was playing on the line with Nate
mckinnonet Worlds and didn't look out of place at all.
He was and I know all those guys, the way
that they raved about him, uh, you know, just speaks
to to the level play that he can play at.
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And I think that confidence of being able to play
with a player of that caliber and now coming back
this season, I think that he's ready to take another step.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
One of the teammates on your team that might know
very well as well as Travis Knechty t J. You
knew I was gonna ask about it him. You know,
you got a chance to play with TK at Four
Nations and you know share that with him, and as
long as you know, I know how close you guys
are in Philly, What was that like for you guys?
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Yeah, I can still remember the day we we were
sitting there waiting hoping that we were going to get
a call to make the team.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
And so.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
My first call, you would think would be like to
my parents or my family, and my first call is
to see if he's coming with me. Yeah, we're just
four best buddies. We wanted it to do it together.
I think it made it easier for us. You know,
you go into a locker with some of the guys there,
I think to have not only a teammate, but my
best body on the team going with me meant a lot,
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and then to be able to win with them meant
even more so. Yeah, it was obviously something that I'm
very thankful that we got to do together.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Right, so you do it together, you guys come back.
You also have, as you mentioned Talk as well over target.
What's maybe something that you guys can bring from that
experience that you feel has elevated your game that you
can help elevate this group even more.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah, I think just just some of that leadership qualities,
some of the stuff that you know, those guys that
we were able to learn from that have done it before,
that have won before, and that's something that we're trying
to build in Philly and so to exceed that firsthand
and now be able to bring that back, you know,
with how young our group is, I think it's good
to have guys like me and TK that have kind
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of seen that before and now you know, hopefully can
to bring that back and instill that in our organization
and and you know, bring Philly back to a winning
market because I think Philly is a lot better when
we're in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Have you had some conversations with Talk going to the season.
Obviously you guys are familiar with them from four Nations.
How's that going?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yeah, you know, you would think that she's kind of
telling me what what he's doing. But I think he
was more you know, questioning me. He wants to know
everything about the team. You know, what do guys do
here house the group? Different questions that go on because
I think he's wants to get ahead of it early
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and uh, you know, start right out of the gate.
So I'm excited because I think he's uh, he's.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
A good mind.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
He's going to be good for a lot of these
guys that, like I said, that are looking to take
that next step, and it's going to be good for me,
for TK and I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
So a lot of changes too.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
We also have this written down, Trevor z Griss, what
do you think about Michigan goals over under one and
a half this year?
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I'll take the under, I come, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I just did I would have picked the over. I'm surprised. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
If him and Beach just going to go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
That's true, that's true, No.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I think, yeah, I don't know. My thought is just
that with both those guys being able to do it,
I think maybe that'll make them do it less because
She's used to being the only.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Guy that does it. So that's my take. I have
to ask, how is how is summer house farming? You
got to tell our listeners what kind of farming?
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah, well harvest is on right now, so I'm missing out. Yeah,
we have a grain farm about two thousand acres. I
went to Worlds this year, so I missed out on seating,
so Dad wasn't happy with that. And then now coming
here and I was back in Philly September one, so
I think like the day I flew to Philly, they
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started combining. So seems to be how it always works out.
I haven't made it back for harvest for a few years,
but hoping to get a little bit in here in
the future. It's my favorite part of farming. It's the
most rewarding the time you get to take the crop off.
So anytime I can get back there and help out,
I enjoyed. It's something that I have a lot of
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fun with.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I remember, the last time you were able to is
when we finished in the bubble was always in September,
and I'm like, hey, you know, Sandy, what are you
gonna do now? I'm going going right back to the farm.
I'm going right into a comb board right to the
combine right now. Right away, I was like, all right, right,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Wow, Like what's the what's your favorite part about farming?
Like I mean for people who don't know anything about
this side of you.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Yeah, I just liked that. I'm you know, you jump
into a tractor that's going five miles an hour, it's
zero cell service, just you and open, wide, open space,
and you got the AM radio going, and it's just
so relaxing for me because, you know, living in Philly
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and being in the hockey environment for however many days
that we are during the season, it's nice to just relax,
kind of take your mind away from it and go
and do something else.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Well, that's like an advertisement for Team Canada right there,
and that is classic Canadian.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I've been on.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
The prairies, I lived in Manitoba and Saskatchewan, so I
don't know exactly what it's like to do that, but
I can only imagine it is very therapeutic, as you said,
So we really appreciate you taking the time here to
chat with us, and you know, good luck this season,
and we wish you the best of luck as well
on hopefully getting on Team Canada again.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
This year. All right, thank you, thanks Sciting.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Welcome back into Energy Line with Nate and JSB. That
was Travis Sandham from the Philadelphia Flyers and of course
Team Canada from the Four Nations. And we're looking forward
to seeing him this season and what an interesting guy
he is. And there's so many more interesting things, Nate
that we've got to get to before this season starts.
And one of them is we're gonna do a little
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pick them. We're gonna we're gonna pick We're gonna pick him,
really is what we're doing. Uh, who do you think
is gonna have a better year? Connor Bdard or Maclan Celebrini,
Maclan Celebrini.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I think Maclan Celebrina, Celebrina Celebrini. What showed that one?
Celena Celebrina. Macklin Celbrini I just think overall as a player,
more complete player than Connor Berdard. You know, he's a
guy that when I watch both of them play, like
Macklin Celebrini is kind of a dog on a bone,
like he he's going for that puck. He you know,
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he gets it himself. Where Badard not really that guy.
He kind of you know, he's the guy that gets open,
someone else goes to fort check gets that pucked. So
I just think that Macklin Celebrina overall is more of
a complete player than Connor Berdard.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Agree, And I'll add on that that he is more
defensively responsible, I would have to say, And I think
that he'll get more opportunities for doing that, especially Also
he's been working really well with that young core Michael
Misa Will Smith will have to see. However, it's very deep.
It's an interesting team to kind of look at.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Okay, I think I think Selbrina has the best chance
to make Team Canada too.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yes, we talked about that even before, like would he
be able, would he be on the CUSP. We haven't
talked about Connor Dard making Team Canada before. We were
before he entered the league.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
We were yeah, But I think it's more likely that
Celebrini makes it because because of the reasons we were
talking about, Because he's a guy that could play on
the fourth line on Team Canada and still you know,
be impactful, right.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
And we're not really sure. I mean the Chicago has
been a bit of a all over the place. Okay,
that was like such bad like analysis of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I'm that guy. Okay, uh, I went to school.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Okay, So what about who is going to have more points,
Mitch Marner or Austin Matthews.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Mitch Marner, I think just overall, Well, the reason why
I think about I think about Vegas's power play, and
I think about who's on their power play, and I
just think that because of that, he's probably gonna play
with Jack Eichel. I just think that he's going to
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have kind of a breakout year point wise, being on
I guess this year more so than Awesome Matthews and
Austin Matthews. To his credit and defense, I'd say he's
more of a complete player than he was a couple
of years ago when he scored sixty nine to seventy goals, Right,
So I think that there's a difference there in player too.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
I think Gart got some great analysis there. Marner are
already has proven he's the points guy. I mean, he's
the points guy. He's flying around the world. He already
had over one hundred last year with Toronto, and I
think it's I would imagine take away the media stress
add in still really great players on that team mentioned
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the power play as well. And kind of this new
life that he's going to have, and he's probably going
to feel a little hungry to prove that he is
worth all this kind of the money, the pomp and circumstance,
everything that's going on and being in Vegas and leaving
Toronto and Matthew's not even sure kind of what that
top line looks like, what they're going to be doing
and whatever that is and whoever ends up on there.
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So I do think he's a great goal scorer. I
just don't think points wise, he will be Martyr. Okay,
who has the better year as a coach of a
new team, Quinvell or Mike Sullivan.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
I'm gonna say Mike Sullivan. I think he has more
of a veteran team in the Rangers, and Mike Sullivan,
you know, he's familiar with the Rangers, he's been there.
I just think that he's set up better to have
a good good year with the Rangers were Quinnville, you know,
like the Ducks are going to be better. But he's
going into a whole new situation, not familiar with the players.
Like there's gonna be a little bit of a feeling
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out process where I think with the Rangers and Mike Sullivan.
I don't think there's going to be that. I think
they're gonna I think they're gonna hit the ground running.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I do that's great.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
I mean we're kind of like a first take if
everyone just agreed, I'm like, yeah, I agree with you.
Nate point counterpoint. I think what would be cool with
Joe quinvell is and the Ducks is for them to
film this year because he's been out of the league
for a couple of years. They've got they're basically the
Rangers West and all like, see, you know you've got
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Chris Crider there, you got you know, all these Jacob
True obviously was a captain the Rangers last year, but
just kind of this new energy and film it because
you know, we heard from Patrick Kin who was on
our show last week or two weeks ago that they,
you know, the Vegas trip and all that kind of
stuff and how fun that was and what would it
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be like with Quinnvell with the Ducks. By the way,
side note, when I met I met Joe quinvell last year,
he was at a PWHL game watching the New York
Sirens also shout out for watching the PWHL, and he
came up to me. He's like, I've seen you somewhere before,
and I was like, you gotta be more specific, like
you know, I'm working five hundred different gigs. And then
he was like, ah Ducks, Anaheim Ducks. I was like, ah, yes,
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my claim to fame the Anaheim Ducks. But I think
Mike Sullivan, as to your point, he is a button
up guy. He's already coached tam Usa, is in coach
tam Usa. He's been there before. This is a James
Dolan Chris Drury run situation that has to be better
than it was last year. And they got it like
it's like, you know, we're buttoned up. It's go time.
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Like last year, no good. We're one of the biggest
franchises playing in one of the biggest arenas in the world.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
We have to be better.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
They have to be better. They have to make the playoffs.
There's no there's no other option for them, which I
think they will. I think, like you said, with Mike Sullivan,
his resume, what he's done everything, I mean, he's going
to be He's the right guy. And I think that,
you know, I think that, like you said, JT. Miller
is a captain, like they have everything. It's like they
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have their ducks in a row. They're ready, They're ready
for the start of the season. They're prepared, they know
what they need to do going into season where you
know the Ducks, it's you know, there's a little bit uncertainty,
like they're going to be better, but we don't know,
like are they going to be fighting for the playoffs?
But are they going to make the playoffs? You know,
are they going to finish that last We don't know.
It's a lot. It's a completely different comparison to teams.
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But I like what you said though, because there's a lot.
There's a lot of former Rangers on the Ducks right now,
so it would be interesting to see behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, I mean, Chris Crowder is going to have a
real I love just bringing up Chris Crowder this whole podcast,
but he's gonna he's going to be real surprised when
it's just Eric Stevens who's asking him questions after mornings
Kape and not five hundred other people. I mean, he'll
probably get them from the visiting media, but like a
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normal day, you'll be surprised. Oh, nobody won't wait there's
nobody like nobody here, Okay, like you would know. Obviously
he played there a little bit different. So last one
of our pickum which coach has more pressure on them
to succeed, Andrew Burnett or Jim Hiller.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
I know I talked about Jim Hiller possibly being under
the gun, but I think in this situation, I think
it's Andrew Burnett. I think that, you know, because of
all the signings they had free agency signings, and everyone
was all excited for the National Predators last season, and
then it went bad real quickly for them, and they
couldn't recover, and they all talked about it being, you know,
kind of an anomaly, and they just couldn't get it
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out of the rut. They couldn't bring it back. And
I think that he's a guy. I think that if
they don't get off to a good start or you know,
they're out of a playoff picture, I think the riding's
on the wall, you kind of have to make changes
because they can't do it. They can't do it again.
So I think that Andrew Burnette is probably a little
more under the gun than Jim Hiller is.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Bingo Bengo Bungo completely agree with you because, as you said,
I mean they have to. Every single player we've talked
about in Nashville said like, well, we've got to get
out to a good start. And it's like if you
don't get out to a good start, like you're not
one of those horses that likes to come from behind,
Like that's that's that can overtake. Like we know that
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last year didn't go well. We know that they did,
you know, kind of finish better. But we know that
they've talked about it. They got all the superstars. Now
you've got to be able to get the pieces in place.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
I remember in Anaheim days and Bruce used to talk
about this. He used to say, I think there's a
percentage and I think everyone knows this, like around American
Thanksgiving time. Yeah, I think I want to say it's what,
there's a percentage like seventy eighty percent of the teams
that are in a playoff spot end up making us.
And that's a big stat And I remember we were
I remember he said that because one of the years,
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I don't remember, it was end of November, we were
like in dead last Yeah, and we ended up going
on a huge heater the next couple of months and
ended up winning the division, which was crazy. But I
think it's they have to stress their start, like it's
huge for the National Predator. Yeah, and they're a tough
division too, so it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Because then your mind kind of reverts back to last season, like, oh,
is this going to be like last year? But to
your point on that, which what it's teams that are
also out of a playoff spot become American Thanksgiving. Also,
thank you for saying American Thanksgiving. That's so Unamerican of
you to say that. Canadian Thanksgivings coming up.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
It's different because I played in Canna three different cities,
so yeah, I know, I know it, and Canadian Thanksgiving
is coming up and.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Canadian Thanksgiving to coming up. Okay, so is that?
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Uh? The Edmonton Oilers were out of a playoff spot
two years ago, the first when they went on a
when they went to Stanley Cup, and I remember Dan
O'Toole asking me, do you think any of is I
gotta make it? And I was like, yes, I make
it out into a playff spot and I was like,
I can't imagine the Oilers not doing it. And I
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love putting that clip out there because obviously that it
worked out well for me, and obviously the oilers are
too good for that to happen. So we will, you know,
have to see we will have our American Thanksgiving Barometer
and see if that still holds true. Also, I think
we should maybe redo that and see if that still
holds true.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
You know, the world has changed a lot. We have AI.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Now, maybe AI can help us figure it out a
bit more. We should ask a.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
That can help us out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
I like Matt, can you ask Ai? Mat can help
us out by asking AI if that metric still is
actually accurate. We are not a numbers podcast, but what
we are is a podcast about hockey and things. And
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and JSB and NHL and iHeart Production.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm Julie Sharbinks. He's a former.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
NHLer, Nate Thompson and Nate Welcome on into Did you
have your fight last week?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I did not. I didn't get a match. Sometimes when
they're trying to match guys up with you know, age, belt, level, weight,
all those things, it just didn't work out. And actually
I was feeling a little bit under the weather this
weekend too, so it probably worked out that I didn't.
I didn't have my fight, But that's okay. Next one,
I'm trying to maybe go in the next month or
maybe the end of October early November. There's a couple
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more so I'll have some more opportunities.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, Universe had your back up that one.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No one wants to be fighting well while sick, unless
I guess you're Michael Jordan in that sense, but especially
your first one.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, I mean, well technically not my first one, but
my uh because I had one a year ago last
May or previous May. But yeah, no, this would be
my first in this league where it's like the whole
you know, yeah, production and the walkout song and all
that you right, right?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Did you had you had you died about that walkout song?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yet?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, I thought about doing this is crazy, this is
funny in your laugh. I thought about going out to
teach me how.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
To Doug you oh.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That coming out and doing it and like doing a
quick little Dougie dance and then going on the meat.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yet, were you channeling a little killer there.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
A little bit?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, as in Doug.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Gilmour obviously, Yeah, yeah, sure, because that song is clearly
about Doug Gilmore. That's all I thought when that kid
song came out, that's a good one. That's a really
random one for walkout song, but yeah, I think that's I.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Just thought maybe I could dance with it, as I.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, you could dance with it, right, like, yeah, you
could dance. Instead of a walkout song, it could be
a dance out song, right, like who's saying?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
And I like to dance, Julie. So it's like, you know,
it makes sense?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Okay, good? I love it. Music is life. I love
that so much.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I mean, was how was your weekend?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Great?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I mean, gosh, I can't even remember one day from
the next. My life is just an absolute chaotic wheo
of fortune. I had the opportunity of going to Mark
Messier and his company Game seven, of which we profiled
here on this show last season. The jersey patch that
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they're going to have on the Rangers this year. They're
the first official jersey patch sponsor in Rangers history.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Like he was there, obviously, Stefan Matteau was there, Lunquist,
Heinrich Lnquist was there, and a bunch of other sort
of people players, everything like that. And I mean, like
Messi ies we know, is just the biggest heart of gold,
Like yeah, and he's just always so happy, and I'm
(03:20):
really pumped for him because he's been working really hard
on this company that is also creates documentaries with Amazon,
and Game seven has just kind of been going up
and up and up and doing so many different things.
So mean that is amazing, like brand recognition. And I
was actually then thinking like how much would it cost
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for like energy line with Nate and JSB just to
put it on.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
A jersey, right, because that would be really good promotion
for us.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
That would be a good promotion. I mean, Game seven
coming from the moose Mark Messe himself is would be
pretty pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, so I'm looking into Jersey patches. If there's any
teams listening that would like want Nate and I to
sponsor you, but like don't really expect to hold lot
of money, but like it would be cool. It would
be like nouveaux. It's not TikTok or milk like the
leaf's hat or whatever like that. And then also I
just wanted to mention I do have my twentieth high
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school reunion coming up this weekend. So if that doesn't
feel make you feel old, I don't know what does.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
No kidding, and are you are you attending?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah? I am. I missed a tenue.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, I mean everybody always says my high school reunion's
coming up and then they never go.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Really, I went to an all girls school, so it
should be it should be uh interesting. I'm sure i'll
see some of Speaking of hockey, like I played hockey
with some of the gals on I was a fourth
liner like my whole career. I got I got rookied
with when I was in grade twelve, So I'm speaking
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in Canadian terms here. When I was in grade twelve
I got rookied with the Grade sevens.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Do you know how weird that is? I was like
Billy Madison.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh, I see, I had been a sub on the
team for the years beforehand. Then I finally made the
team in like it in my last year. But yeah,
then I just looked like an idiot. Anyway, Okay, anything
cool coming up this week for you?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yes, I am going to Tampa on Thursday where they're
having a fantasy camp. So I'm going to be a
part of that. Get the gear on again, skate with
a bunch of men's leaguers, help them out, have some practices,
some games. Probably go see a couple exhibition games, Lightning games.
Just hang out in Tampa this weekend. It'll be fun.
I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, they gotta They've got a couple of games against
Florida coming up to next week.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think I think they
play Nashville. Exhibition is Nashville, yes, correct? Yeah, right, it'd
be good. I've been nice little alumni experience. It'll be fun.
I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
That's so much fun. You must have so many alumni things.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, I guess. You're right, I guess I do.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
With like, are you not so busy with alumni stuff?
Having played for nine teams?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Not overly? I guess it depends on the team. You know,
some teams are more involved in the alumni stuff than others.
But Tampa has done an incredible jobs, especially since I've retired,
and even since I had played there, they just they
do a really good job with the community and bringing
in alumni guys. They have a lot of guys that
still live there, so you know, Tampa is one of
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those teams. Obviously, I played there the longest too, so
I have a lot of history there, so I'm looking
forward to be fun. You know, guys like Ryan Alone
the Cavalier, those guys will be there, so oh, Vinnie, Yeah, Vinnie,
it'll be It'll be fun seeing those guys.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I love the vibe a on Tampa too, because they
just because their fans know what winning is and that's
a lot. I've said that here on the show. It's
like when I did it, when I was able to
be the rinkside for my Very Short and listen, I
will talk about this so the day I die, my
Very Short stint on TNT, which was two games until
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I got COVID. Everyone there in Tampa was the nicest
person ever. So on that note, Tampa good vibes alumni,
We'll have to check in on how that all went
for you down south. And speaking of down south, but
maybe a little bit more to the west, We've got
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some news coming out of where Arizona. We thought they
were dead and gone, and they were like no, no, no, no,
we are still here. There are some Arizona expansion plans
that came out on Monday. Maricopa County chairman announced that
Andrea Doane, who is the wife of Shane Doan, will
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serve as the chair of the advisory board as the
city is.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Going to try to bring a team back.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Not sure if it's relocating a team, doubt that would happen,
but like another team. And you know when I it's so,
Shane done is not going to be a part of
this because he still is has one year left on
his contract with the torontom I believe, but Nate, after
everything we've seen with Arizona, and you know, what do
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you think about this?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I think there's still a chance they get a team.
They've been talking about a long time, and it's not
it's not having a team in Arizona that's the problem.
It's the location of the arena and them approving that.
You know, you look back to when they were in
Phoenix and it was like the ronic days of Talkic
days and you see highlights like that place was rock
and it was sold out. They were good. So I
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do think that it's it's achievable for the Coudies or
Arizona whatever they're going to be called. I mean that
they can, they can get a team there. I think
it's just a matter of them approving in the right location,
getting a good arena, you know, because when I played
in the league, like we all know, going to Glendale,
it was it wasn't a good option. It was so
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out of the way, it was so far, there was
nothing close to anything, and everyone had to drive a
long ways to get there. So I do think that
eventually there will be a team in Arizona again. I
think I think the league wants it. You know, you
saw how long they kept them in the league. I
think eventually it'll happen. And to your point about Andrea
Done and Shane Doan, you know, I think that I'm sure,
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Shane Doan's a little involved.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
They don't talk about it at home at all.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
He's like, Wow, what a surprise found out that my
wife is bringing a team tars.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, but still under contract with the least. I get it.
But I think it's good. I think that I think
it'll be good to have a team in Arizona. Again,
I think it's I think it's a plus for the league.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay, yeah, I think that you raised a lot of
great points there, and I think that the biggest part,
and they mentioned this outlined this is it. Number One
finding a suitable ownership group with quote deep pockets. I
think that should be a part of everything that we
asked for in life. Is like, I would like that
with deep pockets meaning obviously lots of cash. Number two,
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crafting a plan to build an arena in a suitable location,
either downtown Phoenix or maybe somewhere else that's Scottsdale where
there's people. I just remember the Hila River arena that
looks like Jilla like it. If you don't know, you
don't know until you hear it. And then a commitment
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to and connection with the community, something none of the
other ownership groups had quote that these are quotes, so
those are all big things. We know this is very
very early early stages. The Atlanta is most likely further along.
There could be other teams and other cities that are
further along than this, but it is At first I
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thought that they were trying to bring Salt Lake back,
like they're like, uhh Utah, like we want it back,
like we want our man back. You can't have it anymore.
And it's like I just thought of like Ryan Smith
being like yet, absolutely, no fucking way.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
No, Utah is not going anywhere. They've done a tremendous
job there, I know.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Do you see their new training facility.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Oh ridiculous. Everything is just top of the line there.
Guys are spoiled for Guys are spoiled playing for Utah
right now.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yes, okay, So we want to also note that Andrei
Kopatar announce his retirement at the start of the year
as he enters his twentieth season. He's in the second
year of a two year contract. So it's an interesting.
First of all, as you said, as I just saw
you snaps to one of the greatest players in the league,
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and I believe a future Hall of Famer. First ballot,
first ballot, first ballot, future Hall of Famer is this
He said he didn't want it to be a distraction
throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I check Mark. I really like that.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
What do you think about maybe the effect it might
have on the rest of the league or the team,
or like, do you think everyone one's now going to
be doing one of those here's your present on Jake Copratar.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No. I think I understand why he did it, And
I think because it's Andre Coepitar, he's the captain, he's
been there for so long. I honestly think that him
coming out with it and saying, Okay, this is my
last year, rather than everyone's speculating all year and talking
about it and asking him over and over and over
and over again every time. And I think now everyone
knows it's you know, it's done right, Like we know
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this is his last year. He can just go play.
He doesn't have to worry about anything. So I respect it.
I respect that he came out and said this is
my last year. You know, they have a still really
good team, like they you never know they have a chance.
You know it's a long season, but you never when
they get to the playoffs, they go on a deep run.
You know, maybe he finishes with a cop. Who knows,
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But I think that you know it, and I think
it gives him opportunities off the ice too. You know,
you announced your retirement, and you know, more companies come calling,
you know, uh in that situation. So I think that, uh,
you know, we're so lucky to be able to witness
a player like this, and and for the people on
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the East Coast, they don't get to see him as much.
I've always talked about the comparison of him and Bergeron,
and it's true, Like he's you know, he's definitely one
of the best players of all time. He's I think
he's still one of players actively with I think over
almost thirteen hundred points. I think it is.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
We're not a numbers podcast, so we're just get he is.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You know, he's, like I said, first ballot Hall of
Famer and a and a great person too. So I
think that, you know, I like the way he handled this,
and I like how he announced it before the.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Season, right, a true captain, right, thinking of his teammates
and also them being asked about this and everything that
you mentioned. And Jeff Merrick had that point on his show,
the sheet about Bergeron and Coca, and like what if
Coopatar had been on the East coast. We're just you
know the world, It's just how it is, folks. We
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see more on the East Coast. There's more eyeballs. It's
very hard to stay. I can't even imagine sometimes like
an Anaheim Dex game, Nate like starting at like ten
thirty eastern here and I'm like, ooh, that's going to
dip into my first rem cycle.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So I don't know if anybody else has like sleep
schedules like me, but it's very difficult.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Well just I mean, just to put in perspective too,
of how good he is. Is like when I was
playing in Anaheim, and you know, we would have those
games against the Kings, and obviously there are huge rival games,
and you know, talking to a guy like Ryan gets Laugh,
who's match up against him all night? And when you
have a guy like gets Laugh talking about how hard
is to play against Anji Copatar and you know, we
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know how good Ryan getz Laugh is and you know
he always just talked about like this guy is just different,
you know, So that puts in perspective how good he
is you know, coming from a guy like that. So yes,
I mean this guy is you know, he just did everything.
He like Bergon, he plays hockey perfectly, right, plays the
game the right.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Way and at a consistently high level for so long.
Because when you think about it, it is kind of crazy.
If we were to say, hey, in twenty twenty five,
twenty twenty six, that would be that last year of
Copatar season back like ten years ago, we'd be like,
what did he was he cryogenically frozen? Like how did
he play that many years? You know, it's just it's
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really remarkable. Also a great guy. He once helped me
get He gave me a game warm jersey and he
signed it and he gave it to my ex boyfriend
for his birthday.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So on that.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Note, we talk about guys who are good with the medias,
some of them that might.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Be a little you know, testy, shall we say.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Earlier this week, Austin Matthews and Jack Hughes I got
a little chippy with the media to set off the pace. Okay,
so let's give some context to this. Austin Matthews was
asked about the fact that Mitch Marner and him, you
know or like who would leave the ice first at
the end of warm ups, Like you know how if
you are watching warm ups and you see the guys
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out there waiting to get off, like who would get
off first? And then I guess maybe there's more to it.
But he said, you have two more weeks and then
we're done with these questions. So we have two more
weeks to talk about Mitch Marner, get your questions in.
You got two weeks, which I think is a pretty
hefty amount of time, and then we're done. I think
that's actually a really cognizant, understandable way that he knows
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the media has to get something done. But he's also
being like, listen, then the season starts, and then we
don't talk about this shit ever again.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
What do you think.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I don't mind it, I respect it. You know, he
knows he plays in a market like Toronto, and he
knows that these questions are going to keep coming. And
he's also the captain of the team, so you know,
I think he's I think it's fair he's giving the
media a runway to ask these questions until the season starts.
Ask you about Martyr as much as you want the
comparisons him in Vegas. How many points is he gonna
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get all of it? You know who? Whatever. But once
the season starts, like we're on the Toronto Maple Leafs,
he's on the Vegas Golden Knights, we don't need to
I don't need to ask those questions about another guy
and a different team. So I understand that I do.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I just see the media now being like we got
two weeks, all right, licking their chops, like, all right,
let's go, what else do we got? You know, we're
gonna now have front page huge spreads about Mitch Marner
because we were given this runway in guide. Okay, now,
flipping the switch a bit, we go to Jack Hughes
from of course the New Jersey Devils, who I would say,
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as somebody living in New York City maybe don't have
as much media around them as say an Austin Matthews.
And he was talking about returning from injury. We know
that he was out last year with an injury that
sidelined him for the remainder of the season once he
had suffered it, and he had I guess, had had
a very pointed when he was explaining it to a reporter,
(18:11):
which it seemed like a very hockey guy answer like,
oh right, you know, uh, you know, feeling good and
I'm just going to try to do my best blah
blah blah. Then he goes, You've asked me that two
times in one scrum, and it's just sort of like
it felt a little like unnecessary. But this isn't like
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the first time we've seen Jack Hughes kind of like
maybe go at somebody or be a little bit like
too cool for school. In my opinion, as someone who's
interviewed him before, I've never felt like entirely excited slash
like let me just whenever I would interview you, I'd
be like, great, even after a loss, Nate. I know
(18:53):
Nate's gonna come out here, He's going to be a professional,
and I'm going to ask him questions. I'm not going
to ask him annoying questions because I know that that's
not how things are done in a lass, but like,
you would be a professional answer the questions and he
wouldn't be like why do you pick me after a
loss or be like a little spicy. But I just
feel as though this is par for the course with
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Jack Hughes. I'm not a huge fan of it.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
No, I'm not either, and it's a trend. I understand.
There's so many times when you don't want to answer
certain questions, and you know they might ask a question
that'll strike a nerve or whatever. But guess what, Jack,
this is what you signed up for, man, Like this
is what every other player has to do. You know,
Sidney Crosby, Connor McDavid, all these guys, you know, they
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answer questions, They answer tough questions, they don't give snark
comments back because they're pros and they've been doing this
for a long time. And Sidney Crosby was sought out
after when he was like fourteen fifteen. And I know
I'm comparing it to Sidney Crosby, who's obviously the best.
But I mean, if he can do it, why can't
anyone else do it? I just I don't understand that,
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like the snark comment back part, you know, where it's
like you know, and I'll say this, like it's gonna
make it worse for him. Yes, I think if you
answer it that way right, like you know, from from
a person that's interviewing, Like if a guy is gracious
and asked the right questions, like you might not go
back to him again, because you're like, you know, but
with Jack, you know, I'm gonna get some I'm gonna
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get some sound bites because he comes off like an asshole.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, the irony is that he's now created another story
because he has said that which he doesn't want to
be asked questions or to be probed. And I understand
if it's a situation, especially one that is sensitive or
one that like there's a way to answer questions. Maybe
sometimes people in scrums, you know, they might come in
(20:48):
late or they're like, okay, maybe they're not sure if
someone's asked this question yet, but we need to get
this on tape. Like I'll run into a scrum in
the Rangers locker room and I'm not sure if well,
you know, he doesn't play there anymore. But like if
Chris Crider had answered it already, I'll be like Chris,
I'd say apologies if you've already And I don't know
if i'd apologize to say, like, you may have already
(21:11):
answered this, but what do you think about this?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Like you kind of just well, we all know what
our job is here. We're all just.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Trying to fucking make a living. Like you know, we're
just you help me, I'll help you.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
And we don't, you know, kind of fight over one another.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And I and and as you said, the pros have
shown that you can do this job and answer the
questions in a way that's respectful to everyone and it
not be like this.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, and don't get me wrong, like, has there been
a situation where a reporter or someone has asked me
a question that has got me fired up? Yes, of
course it happens, but not all the time, not every interview, right,
Like it's almost every single interview he has some kind
of snart comment. And I like Jack Hughes, I like
him as a player, Like, but come on, kid, Like,
(21:57):
you can't keep acting like that because it's going to
follow you the rest of your career. Right And I'll
say if if he listens to this, which he for
sure he.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Doesn't, but like he's a big listary Rice.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Jack, Like, just it's not hard to be a nice
guy to media. Just do it. Just answer the questions
and move on and don't act like an asshole because
it's just it's going to follow you in a negative way.
And you're on team You're gonna be on Team USA,
So don't do that. We don't want we don't want
shit like that to follow you in a negative way.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It's basic level of respect. That's pretty much what it is.
I understand if a reporter is getting to you, but
the more that you dig in on it and the
more you go at them, the worse it is going
to be for you. As we said, but I do
want to ask you, Nate, what would be or do
you do you have a memory or some time of
like a reporter asking you a question.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You just be like, oh my god, I want to
rip their head off.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
But you're like, uh, yeah, our penalty kill was an ideal,
Like do you remember anything, Yeah, there was a.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Time in Montreal I think a reporter it.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Was yeah, exactly, Well there we go right there.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, I was for the game we lost. I think
I made a mistake or something like that on a
penalty kill. I didn't get it out or whatever, and
they ended up scoring. And he obviously brought that to light,
but like asked it in a way where it was,
you know, kind of really digging into me. And yeah,
I got annoyed, I got flustered, and I didn't make
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any comment back, but I just kind of gave him
a look, you know, like there was a look and
it was like, hey, are you done with this question,
because I'm I'm not going to keep answering it. And
that was it. He saw the look and that was it.
So I think if Jack in this situation, maybe just
don't say anything. Just give him a stern look and
be quiet. It's better to not say anything to say
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something like that at all.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Exactly, And to that point, first of all, one hundred
percent happens in Montreal. I'm so zero percent surprised that
somebody would have asked you about like the worst moment
of your life and probably like ten times or something
like that. But I also say Sydney Crosby is one
of the best interviews I've ever had of someone who
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says a lot of things without saying anything at all. Yeah,
before we get to our guest coming up on the
show here today, who is a member of the Philadelphia Flyers,
we would just like to send our condolences to the
friends and family of Bernie Parant of course, who is
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a Hockey Hall of Famer, passed away last weekend at
the age of eighty and he was a Flyers legend,
took them with two Stanley Cups, won the Stanley Cup
Consmith and Vesna in back to back seasons, and Nate
you played in Philly. What was was was he liked
to sort of that the Broadstreet Bullies, but that entire franchise.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I'm only cross passed a couple of times. But all
those guys that were part of those Cup Cup teams
in Philly are you know, they're legends right there. They're
the ones that everyone hears about the Broadstreet Bullies. And
so you know, Bernie parant Jersey's retired there. I mean,
you just hear story worries about him. How you know
how friendly he was, and I got, like I said,
got to cross pass him a little bit, super nice
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and just you know, obviously unbelievable goalie. And you know,
we we look back on the Flyers and you look
at Bobby Clark and all these guys and Bernie Pronce
another one and those guys that they stick out so
and you and you saw I don't know if you
saw Rick Talcket's interview about him, you know they he
was talking about him and he got emotional and he
brought up the fact that you know when he came
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into the Flyers organization as a young guy eighteen years old.
He said Bernie Purant was was there for him right away,
helped him a lot, support him, talk to him, and
like any other guy that plays in the league, you
always remember that stuff. You remember those guys that help
you out and they you know, they help you in
certain situations when you're a young guy. So rip to
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Bernie pron and definitely Flyers and Hall of Flame legend.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Right well, thank you so much for sharing what it
was like to be there and his impact and of
course what Rick talk It had said. We are pleased
to be able to have someone on the show who
knows what it's like to be a member of the
Philadelphia Flyers here and now in this day and age,
and that is none other than Travis Sandheim coming up
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after the break on Energy Line with Nate and JSB.
All right, we're now very thrilled to be joined by
Travis Sandheim from the Philadelphia Flyers, also one of gold
with Team Canada at the Four Nations.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I'm smiling while to.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Say that because I'm Canadian too, I'm also American as well. Okay,
thank yeah, all right, I've pushed it in Nate's face
a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
But You've had such an amazing year. We were just
talking about it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I mean, like from the Gold from being a part
of like the Phillies Cornerstone to Orientation Camp. Like if
you went back, let's say two years, would you have
imagined you'd be here right now?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
No, definitely not.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
You know, a couple of years ago I was healthy, scratch,
under torts and fears here playing for Team Canada. So
it's been kind of a whirlwind couple of seasons. But uh,
you know it was it was for the better that
I had to go through some of that stuff and
you know now to be a part of what I
was this past season meant a lot to me and
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looking forward to you know, potentially being able to to
do it again at the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Playing for Team Canada. I was there saying getting to
watch it and you know, getting to see you, you know,
put on that Team canadaswit. It was awesome to watch
and you know, going into the Olympic year having that
extra leg and that experience, how do you feel going
in the Olympics, You're having that chance and playing for
team Cannet four nations?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yeah, I think not only being named it to Four Nations.
But I think when I got the opportunity to play
and kind of prove that, you know, I can play
at that level and play against some of the best
players in the world and then go on to win,
I think it did a lot for my game and
the confidence and my belief and you know, I'm excited
to see kind of where my next steps are because
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I think that there's still more there. And you know,
obviously my goal is to make that Olympic team, and
so uh, you know, you obviously got to get off
to a good start, but you know, also looking forward
to to what I can do in Philly and where
our teams headed there.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I saw that you were blogging during like I'm sure
you love that, just like the personal diary on NHL
dot com as well as playing in Four Nations. But
I think it's great for people to get to see
sort of like what it's like for you being there.
And I found it interesting what you had said. I
wrote it down that you said you learned a lot
of lessons that you never would have imagined from guys
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in that locker room.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Can you tell us, like, maybe.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
What's one or two things from some of the guys
in there that that have stuck with you.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I mean I've obviously played with with some really good
players throughout my career and learned lots from them, but
I think just some of those guys that that step
foot in that locker room were kind of, you know,
another level above. And you know, to watch Sitting Crosby
every day and how he prepares, how he handles big
game situations, how calm he is, you know, going into
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overtime in the four Nation Finals and being a part
of that locker room and understanding you know, kind of
those leadership aspects and what goes on in those moments.
You know, I've never been a part of something like that,
and so to kind of live that out and kind
of take from that, I think it goes along ways
and you know, learned a lot of valuable lessons from
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a number of different guys. You could went up and
down that lineup. There's a reason why a lot of
those guys that were on that team that have won before,
you know, they're leaders on their respective teams and you
could see that first firsthand there.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So you mentioned the locker room before overtime, take us
in there, what was that like.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Yeah, it's just you know, it felt like, you know,
just like any other intermission. These guys are calm, They're
they're you know, saying, who's going to be the hero here,
somebody's going to go and you know, do it, and
just the calmness that you know, there was no doubt
that we were going to win that game. And that's
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just how it felt going into it.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
You know, you could feel it from them, the confidence
that they had, and that goes a long ways. Right
when your top guys handle themselves the way that they do,
I think it kind of rubs off from the rest
of the group.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I talked to some guys during that time about practice,
and I'm always intrigued about the practices, and you know,
in those tournaments, and they talked about how, you know,
it was fun playing the games, but they were almost
more impressed with practicing. With everybody talk about that and
who really jumped out at you that you really watching
closely in practices.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah, I think just well, first first couple of practices,
understanding the pace, like that's a whole other level. You
think you're practicing hard and then you see these guys
coming down flying full speed, at you line rushes are
a little bit different. Two on ones, they're different. So
that took a little bit of adjusting to. And and
then on top of that, I think just the work
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that these guys put in after practice. Uh, there's a
reason they're some of the best players in the world.
Their their skill sets, what they what they work on
every day. And then you know, one thing that stuck
out with me was uh was sid Uh. It was
at the end of a skate and you know, I'm
always one of the last guys out there. I you know,
enjoy you know, shooting pucks and kind of working after practice,
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and he comes up to me and uh starts asking
me if you know there's anything I want to work on?
What do you want to do? What do you want
to do? He's like, you want to shoot pucks from
the top whatever. I'm like, yeah, sure, Like is that.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
What you want?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
And he's like no, no, no, no, Like what do you
want to do? And so like that was cool and
like he basically what drill that I created for myself,
he integrated something that he could work on, uh, for
himself while I was working on my drill. And so
like he's doing skating flybys, doing tips, like just just
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different stuff that like I'd never seen before that like
he was just so intelligent that he was able to
create a drill while I was working on what I
needed to work on. And so yeah, that just goes
to show that the work ethic that he has and
and where he's you know, bring us at.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
So I'm in Philly this summer and I'm flying back
to la and my flight's delayed and your general manager,
Danny Briere is on my flight and ended up sitting
sit with him for a little bit, and you know,
he's extremely excited about Rick Talkett being at the head
of the helm here and and coming back to Philly
and and you know, leading you guys, how excited you
guys to have Rick talk by the bench this year.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, well, I think just him being a former player
being a part of the organization, he's already a step ahead.
I think the excitement level that he brings. You know,
he picked us, he wanted to come to Philly, he
wanted he saw something in our group that they made
him want to come and coach our team. And so
I think that's a that's a boost of confidence for
the group. And uh, so I'm excited to see what
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he's going to bring. You know, obviously he's he's coached
a lot, He's on a lot throad his playing career,
his coaching career. He was a part of our four
nation staff. And so just just the knowledge that he's
going to be bringing in UH, and and just the
steps that I think this team is about to take.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
UH.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
We had a lot of young pieces. I think when
you go through a rebuild, there's a lot of guys
that kind of fly under the raider and guys that
don't get recognized. And so I'm excited to see, uh,
you know where where some of these guys take their
game to.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Is there anyone you can point to that maybe could
be one of those guys that could have a BRINKU?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I think Tyson Forrester. I think guy's got a little
bit of a taste at Worlds what he's capable of.
You know, he was playing on the line with Nate
mckinnonet Worlds and didn't look out of place at all.
He was and I know all those guys, the way
that they raved about him, uh, you know, just speaks
to to the level play that he can play at.
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And I think that confidence of being able to play
with a player of that caliber and now coming back
this season, I think that he's ready to take another step.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
One of the teammates on your team that might know
very well as well as Travis Knechty t J. You
knew I was gonna ask about it him. You know,
you got a chance to play with TK at Four
Nations and you know share that with him, and as
long as you know, I know how close you guys
are in Philly, What was that like for you guys?
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Yeah, I can still remember the day we we were
sitting there waiting hoping that we were going to get
a call to make the team.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
And so.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
My first call, you would think would be like to
my parents or my family, and my first call is
to see if he's coming with me. Yeah, we're just
four best buddies. We wanted it to do it together.
I think it made it easier for us. You know,
you go into a locker with some of the guys there,
I think to have not only a teammate, but my
best body on the team going with me meant a lot,
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and then to be able to win with them meant
even more so. Yeah, it was obviously something that I'm
very thankful that we got to do together.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Right, so you do it together, you guys come back.
You also have, as you mentioned Talk as well over target.
What's maybe something that you guys can bring from that
experience that you feel has elevated your game that you
can help elevate this group even more.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah, I think just just some of that leadership qualities,
some of the stuff that you know, those guys that
we were able to learn from that have done it before,
that have won before, and that's something that we're trying
to build in Philly and so to exceed that firsthand
and now be able to bring that back, you know,
with how young our group is, I think it's good
to have guys like me and TK that have kind
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of seen that before and now you know, hopefully can
to bring that back and instill that in our organization
and and you know, bring Philly back to a winning
market because I think Philly is a lot better when
we're in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Have you had some conversations with Talk going to the season.
Obviously you guys are familiar with them from four Nations.
How's that going?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yeah, you know, you would think that she's kind of
telling me what what he's doing. But I think he
was more you know, questioning me. He wants to know
everything about the team. You know, what do guys do
here house the group? Different questions that go on because
I think he's wants to get ahead of it early
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and uh, you know, start right out of the gate.
So I'm excited because I think he's uh, he's.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
A good mind.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
He's going to be good for a lot of these
guys that, like I said, that are looking to take
that next step, and it's going to be good for me,
for TK and I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
So a lot of changes too.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
We also have this written down, Trevor z Griss, what
do you think about Michigan goals over under one and
a half this year?
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I'll take the under, I come, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I just did I would have picked the over. I'm surprised. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
If him and Beach just going to go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
That's true, that's true, No.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I think, yeah, I don't know. My thought is just
that with both those guys being able to do it,
I think maybe that'll make them do it less because
She's used to being the only.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Guy that does it. So that's my take. I have
to ask, how is how is summer house farming? You
got to tell our listeners what kind of farming?
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah, well harvest is on right now, so I'm missing out. Yeah,
we have a grain farm about two thousand acres. I
went to Worlds this year, so I missed out on seating,
so Dad wasn't happy with that. And then now coming
here and I was back in Philly September one, so
I think like the day I flew to Philly, they
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started combining. So seems to be how it always works out.
I haven't made it back for harvest for a few years,
but hoping to get a little bit in here in
the future. It's my favorite part of farming. It's the
most rewarding the time you get to take the crop off.
So anytime I can get back there and help out,
I enjoyed. It's something that I have a lot of
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fun with.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I remember, the last time you were able to is
when we finished in the bubble was always in September,
and I'm like, hey, you know, Sandy, what are you
gonna do now? I'm going going right back to the farm.
I'm going right into a comb board right to the
combine right now. Right away, I was like, all right, right,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Wow, Like what's the what's your favorite part about farming?
Like I mean for people who don't know anything about
this side of you.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Yeah, I just liked that. I'm you know, you jump
into a tractor that's going five miles an hour, it's
zero cell service, just you and open, wide, open space,
and you got the AM radio going, and it's just
so relaxing for me because, you know, living in Philly
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and being in the hockey environment for however many days
that we are during the season, it's nice to just relax,
kind of take your mind away from it and go
and do something else.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Well, that's like an advertisement for Team Canada right there,
and that is classic Canadian.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I've been on.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
The prairies, I lived in Manitoba and Saskatchewan, so I
don't know exactly what it's like to do that, but
I can only imagine it is very therapeutic, as you said,
So we really appreciate you taking the time here to
chat with us, and you know, good luck this season,
and we wish you the best of luck as well
on hopefully getting on Team Canada again.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
This year. All right, thank you, thanks Sciting.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Welcome back into Energy Line with Nate and JSB. That
was Travis Sandham from the Philadelphia Flyers and of course
Team Canada from the Four Nations. And we're looking forward
to seeing him this season and what an interesting guy
he is. And there's so many more interesting things, Nate
that we've got to get to before this season starts.
And one of them is we're gonna do a little
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pick them. We're gonna we're gonna pick We're gonna pick him,
really is what we're doing. Uh, who do you think
is gonna have a better year? Connor Bdard or Maclan Celebrini,
Maclan Celebrini.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I think Maclan Celebrina, Celebrina Celebrini. What showed that one?
Celena Celebrina. Macklin Celbrini I just think overall as a player,
more complete player than Connor Berdard. You know, he's a
guy that when I watch both of them play, like
Macklin Celebrini is kind of a dog on a bone,
like he he's going for that puck. He you know,
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he gets it himself. Where Badard not really that guy.
He kind of you know, he's the guy that gets open,
someone else goes to fort check gets that pucked. So
I just think that Macklin Celebrina overall is more of
a complete player than Connor Berdard.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Agree, And I'll add on that that he is more
defensively responsible, I would have to say, And I think
that he'll get more opportunities for doing that, especially Also
he's been working really well with that young core Michael
Misa Will Smith will have to see. However, it's very deep.
It's an interesting team to kind of look at.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Okay, I think I think Selbrina has the best chance
to make Team Canada too.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yes, we talked about that even before, like would he
be able, would he be on the CUSP. We haven't
talked about Connor Dard making Team Canada before. We were
before he entered the league.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
We were yeah, But I think it's more likely that
Celebrini makes it because because of the reasons we were
talking about, Because he's a guy that could play on
the fourth line on Team Canada and still you know,
be impactful, right.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
And we're not really sure. I mean the Chicago has
been a bit of a all over the place. Okay,
that was like such bad like analysis of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I'm that guy. Okay, uh, I went to school.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Okay, So what about who is going to have more points,
Mitch Marner or Austin Matthews.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Mitch Marner, I think just overall, Well, the reason why
I think about I think about Vegas's power play, and
I think about who's on their power play, and I
just think that because of that, he's probably gonna play
with Jack Eichel. I just think that he's going to
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have kind of a breakout year point wise, being on
I guess this year more so than Awesome Matthews and
Austin Matthews. To his credit and defense, I'd say he's
more of a complete player than he was a couple
of years ago when he scored sixty nine to seventy goals, Right,
So I think that there's a difference there in player too.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
I think Gart got some great analysis there. Marner are
already has proven he's the points guy. I mean, he's
the points guy. He's flying around the world. He already
had over one hundred last year with Toronto, and I
think it's I would imagine take away the media stress
add in still really great players on that team mentioned
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the power play as well. And kind of this new
life that he's going to have, and he's probably going
to feel a little hungry to prove that he is
worth all this kind of the money, the pomp and circumstance,
everything that's going on and being in Vegas and leaving
Toronto and Matthew's not even sure kind of what that
top line looks like, what they're going to be doing
and whatever that is and whoever ends up on there.
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So I do think he's a great goal scorer. I
just don't think points wise, he will be Martyr. Okay,
who has the better year as a coach of a
new team, Quinvell or Mike Sullivan.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
I'm gonna say Mike Sullivan. I think he has more
of a veteran team in the Rangers, and Mike Sullivan,
you know, he's familiar with the Rangers, he's been there.
I just think that he's set up better to have
a good good year with the Rangers were Quinnville, you know,
like the Ducks are going to be better. But he's
going into a whole new situation, not familiar with the players.
Like there's gonna be a little bit of a feeling
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out process where I think with the Rangers and Mike Sullivan.
I don't think there's going to be that. I think
they're gonna I think they're gonna hit the ground running.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I do that's great.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
I mean we're kind of like a first take if
everyone just agreed, I'm like, yeah, I agree with you.
Nate point counterpoint. I think what would be cool with
Joe quinvell is and the Ducks is for them to
film this year because he's been out of the league
for a couple of years. They've got they're basically the
Rangers West and all like, see, you know you've got
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Chris Crider there, you got you know, all these Jacob
True obviously was a captain the Rangers last year, but
just kind of this new energy and film it because
you know, we heard from Patrick Kin who was on
our show last week or two weeks ago that they,
you know, the Vegas trip and all that kind of
stuff and how fun that was and what would it
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be like with Quinnvell with the Ducks. By the way,
side note, when I met I met Joe quinvell last year,
he was at a PWHL game watching the New York
Sirens also shout out for watching the PWHL, and he
came up to me. He's like, I've seen you somewhere before,
and I was like, you gotta be more specific, like
you know, I'm working five hundred different gigs. And then
he was like, ah Ducks, Anaheim Ducks. I was like, ah, yes,
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my claim to fame the Anaheim Ducks. But I think
Mike Sullivan, as to your point, he is a button
up guy. He's already coached tam Usa, is in coach
tam Usa. He's been there before. This is a James
Dolan Chris Drury run situation that has to be better
than it was last year. And they got it like
it's like, you know, we're buttoned up. It's go time.
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Like last year, no good. We're one of the biggest
franchises playing in one of the biggest arenas in the world.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
We have to be better.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
They have to be better. They have to make the playoffs.
There's no there's no other option for them, which I
think they will. I think, like you said, with Mike Sullivan,
his resume, what he's done everything, I mean, he's going
to be He's the right guy. And I think that,
you know, I think that, like you said, JT. Miller
is a captain, like they have everything. It's like they
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have their ducks in a row. They're ready, They're ready
for the start of the season. They're prepared, they know
what they need to do going into season where you
know the Ducks, it's you know, there's a little bit uncertainty,
like they're going to be better, but we don't know,
like are they going to be fighting for the playoffs?
But are they going to make the playoffs? You know,
are they going to finish that last We don't know.
It's a lot. It's a completely different comparison to teams.
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But I like what you said though, because there's a lot.
There's a lot of former Rangers on the Ducks right now,
so it would be interesting to see behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, I mean, Chris Crowder is going to have a
real I love just bringing up Chris Crowder this whole podcast,
but he's gonna he's going to be real surprised when
it's just Eric Stevens who's asking him questions after mornings
Kape and not five hundred other people. I mean, he'll
probably get them from the visiting media, but like a
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normal day, you'll be surprised. Oh, nobody won't wait there's
nobody like nobody here, Okay, like you would know. Obviously
he played there a little bit different. So last one
of our pickum which coach has more pressure on them
to succeed, Andrew Burnett or Jim Hiller.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
I know I talked about Jim Hiller possibly being under
the gun, but I think in this situation, I think
it's Andrew Burnett. I think that, you know, because of
all the signings they had free agency signings, and everyone
was all excited for the National Predators last season, and
then it went bad real quickly for them, and they
couldn't recover, and they all talked about it being, you know,
kind of an anomaly, and they just couldn't get it
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out of the rut. They couldn't bring it back. And
I think that he's a guy. I think that if
they don't get off to a good start or you know,
they're out of a playoff picture, I think the riding's
on the wall, you kind of have to make changes
because they can't do it. They can't do it again.
So I think that Andrew Burnette is probably a little
more under the gun than Jim Hiller is.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Bingo Bengo Bungo completely agree with you because, as you said,
I mean they have to. Every single player we've talked
about in Nashville said like, well, we've got to get
out to a good start. And it's like if you
don't get out to a good start, like you're not
one of those horses that likes to come from behind,
Like that's that's that can overtake. Like we know that
(47:56):
last year didn't go well. We know that they did,
you know, kind of finish better. But we know that
they've talked about it. They got all the superstars. Now
you've got to be able to get the pieces in place.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
I remember in Anaheim days and Bruce used to talk
about this. He used to say, I think there's a
percentage and I think everyone knows this, like around American
Thanksgiving time. Yeah, I think I want to say it's what,
there's a percentage like seventy eighty percent of the teams
that are in a playoff spot end up making us.
And that's a big stat And I remember we were
I remember he said that because one of the years,
(48:28):
I don't remember, it was end of November, we were
like in dead last Yeah, and we ended up going
on a huge heater the next couple of months and
ended up winning the division, which was crazy. But I
think it's they have to stress their start, like it's
huge for the National Predator. Yeah, and they're a tough
division too, so it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Because then your mind kind of reverts back to last season, like, oh,
is this going to be like last year? But to
your point on that, which what it's teams that are
also out of a playoff spot become American Thanksgiving. Also,
thank you for saying American Thanksgiving. That's so Unamerican of
you to say that. Canadian Thanksgivings coming up.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
It's different because I played in Canna three different cities,
so yeah, I know, I know it, and Canadian Thanksgiving
is coming up and.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Canadian Thanksgiving to coming up. Okay, so is that?
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Uh? The Edmonton Oilers were out of a playoff spot
two years ago, the first when they went on a
when they went to Stanley Cup, and I remember Dan
O'Toole asking me, do you think any of is I
gotta make it? And I was like, yes, I make
it out into a playff spot and I was like,
I can't imagine the Oilers not doing it. And I
(49:35):
love putting that clip out there because obviously that it
worked out well for me, and obviously the oilers are
too good for that to happen. So we will, you know,
have to see we will have our American Thanksgiving Barometer
and see if that still holds true. Also, I think
we should maybe redo that and see if that still
holds true.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
You know, the world has changed a lot. We have AI.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Now, maybe AI can help us figure it out a
bit more. We should ask a.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
That can help us out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
I like Matt, can you ask Ai? Mat can help
us out by asking AI if that metric still is
actually accurate. We are not a numbers podcast, but what
we are is a podcast about hockey and things. And
we want to thank you guys so much for listening
to this episode of Energy Line with Date and JSB.
(50:26):
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or you like it. Like that really helps like get
everyone riled up at our episode somehow.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Especially at Devil.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
If you guys could put this on a Devil's redd
a thread, that will really help us. Right now, we
want to thank Travis Sandheim for joining us from the
Player Media Tour in Vegas. Thank you to our producer
Matt Heva, who is on the Ones and Twos on
AI right now. This has been a production of the
NHL and iHeart podcast energy Line with Date and JSP
will be back with you again next Tuesday as we
get even closer to puck drop on another exciting season.
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