September 10, 2025 • 50 mins
LIVE from the NHL Player Media Tour in Las Vegas 🚨
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Patrick Kane joined the show to talk about his 2026 Olympic push, Mike Modano’s record, and Jonathan Toews’ return
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Pat Brisson also joined to weigh in on Sidney Crosby’s future, Dustin Wolf’s new deal, and a potential Hughes brothers reunion
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Plus, JSB & Nate break down the Lane Hutson drama — and how his dad’s comments could impact his season
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Energy Line is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
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We'll go on into Energy Line with Nate and JSB.
I'm Julie Sharp Banks and he's former NHLR Nate Thompson.
This is a production of the NHL and I Heart podcasts.
We are in Vegas, baby, and it's for the NHL
Player Media Tour, not for a bacherette or a bachelor party.
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Those are those are old our old days, Nate.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
But we're here to pod, We're here to pode. This
is my first time of the NHL Media Tour ever.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Same Yeah. Look, we're rookies here and we've been having
a great time. But first let's get caught up. What's
been going on with you?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
What's been going on this last week? I went camping
with my daughter Sequoia.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Wow, which was amazing a two year old.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, with my dog to Eddie. So it was fun.
We saw some Sequoia redwood trees and hung out, did
some camping, ate some food off the fire, chased her
around and the dog a little bit. It was It
was great. It was a lot of fun. It was beautiful,
like California. You don't realize how many beautiful places there
(01:31):
are like you can go to a different terrain. You're
in the desert. Next thing you know, you're in the
woods with trees that are fifty feet wide. You know,
it's it was amazing. So that's what's been going on.
And now I'm here in Vegas and I'm excited to
be here.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You know, I've congratulated you on being a good dad before,
like dad points to Nate, But taking your two year
old daughter and a dog camping.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well, let's all clarify. It wasn't camping. It was glamor.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Okay, there we go.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
That's a minor detail. I probably should I should add
in there. It was glamping, and it was awesome. You
basically rent out these airstreams and there's levels to it,
and so you get an airstream. So yeah, you know
we had ac and a nice.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Bad That sounds more California.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah it was, but you know I had I made
every meal over the fire, So I mean it's kind
of still six mixture, both camping and clamping a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You weren't like portaging with a canoe or anything like that,
which is good.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, no, no, no, I wasn't in a tent.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yes, yes, Okay, all right, well neither was I. I
went to three concerts last week. There are seven days
in a week. I went to three concerts, which is
I think maybe too many concerts in one week. Went
to Oasis at MetLife. The concert was great. I mean
I grew up on Oasis and the cassette. Of course
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we all did, uh. And then I went to Tate
McCrae Canadian Icon also played at the NHL All Star
Game and now was like one three va maze this week.
Absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Calgary too, I believe right from Calgary.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
She's the Britney Spears of this era. And then, of course,
as many people who are listening to this probably know me, well,
I went to later Gaga again for concert number two
and was great and not just I'm a big Gaga stance.
So I can't wait to have her on the Energy
Line podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Do they have a name for Gaga fans like they
do Swift like Swifty?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
What is called little Monsters? And she's a mother monster?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Okay, yeah, so you're a little monster.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yet's say it's a little darker than the whole thing. Okay,
But so let's get to the good stuff we see
this week today, we're recording on Tuesday. Lots of things
to permeate on. Dustin Wolf, goaltender, signed a seven year,
fifty two point five million dollar contract extension following a
great rookie season with the Calgary Flames. That's seven point
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five aa V. And you've been talking about this one.
What what is the biggest point about this kind of
track for you?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, I think it's the potential value of this contract.
Like you look at other big goalies in the league
and guys that are paid like Shasterkin Bubovski. They're elite obviously,
but it handcuffs the rest of the teams right with
cap flexibility. So being able to sign Dustin Wolf at
a seven point five AAV first in the next seven years,
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I mean potentially in four years he could be one
of the best goalies in the league, top five goalies
in the league. And if you have him at seven
point five, it just creates so much flexibility for their
team in the long term. So I love the contract.
I think it's great. I saw him play in the
American League. He was dominant down there. He obviously had
a rookie rookie candidate Rookie of the Year candidate season.
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So I love the deal, and I think Calgary. I
think Calgary kind of hit a home run on this one, right.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They clearly see a lot of potential in him for
the long term, and so that could work out well
for them and of course for him in terms of
getting paid. Right now, let's get to some even bigger news,
which you know, I got to give you some props there, Nate,
he's a big j journo. He found this one on
Instagram right before we started recording, and that came from TSN.
(05:04):
Put up what Pierre Lebrun had posted from an interview
with pat Erson. This is an agent for Sidney Crosby,
who said he's talking about Sidney Crosby here. Okay, so
quote the comparison is Tom Brady. We want Sidney to
hopefully be in the playoffs every year. We want him
to hopefully win another Cup or two. So each year
the team that he's playing for fails to make the playoffs,
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it creates a lot of speculation. In reality, he's not
getting younger. He goes on to say, it's been three
years they haven't made the playoffs. It all depends on
how sid is going to be and how the team
is going to do. I maintain the same position that
I do believe that he should be playing playoff hockey
every year. In my opinion.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Holy wow.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
The connection to Tom Brady makes me think that maybe
Sidney Crosby might be taking his talents somewhere else potentially.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
The comparison is spot on, and I love that Pat
compared him to Tom Brady because it is it's similar. Goat,
Yeah he is. He's a goat and Crosby is a
face of our league. I know Conormy David, but Crosby's
been the face of our league for twenty years. And
Pat Boisson is all of us in the end of
the day. I think he wants is he because he
wants to see Sidney Crosby when he wants to see Stanley.
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He wants to see him win another Stanley Cup. And
I can safely say I think all of us want that, right,
And I think that him coming out and saying that
there's that holds some traction because I think it's calculated, right.
I think Pat's coming out to say this. You know
they've been talking and sid is curious of what the
Pittsburgh Penguins plans are in the future, and you know
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he's playing some meaningful hockey, Like he played in four
Nations last year. He was unbelievable. He's playing in the
Olympics this year. I'm sure he's going to be the
Crosby that we know.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So I'm going to square then to win gold exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah. Well, but anyways, I digress. He he I think,
you know, he wants to play meaningful hockey, like Pats said, like,
you're playing in these meaningful tournaments and then you're going
to the end of the regular season and you're not making.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
The playoffs, Like, it's a waste.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It's a waste. It's a waste for everybody that's a
fan of hockey. And I think at the end of
the day, Sidney Crosby wants to win another company, wants
to play meaningful hockey. And I think pat coming out,
Paperson coming out and say that it excites me and
it should excite everyone else.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, he's essentially putting the bat signal out there for teams,
being like, hey, are you maybe potentially interested because I'm
putting this statement out there. We all know what happened
with Tom Brady, how he was with the Patriots and
then he obviously went to Tampa Bay wins a Super
Bowl with Tampa Bay. With this, if you are if okay,
we're in Vegas, you're betting, man, who would you bet?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
If say he was to take his talents go to
another team.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
What would it be hypothetically?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, first, do you think it could happen? Number one?
And then number two?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And I'm going to compare this to Tom Brady and
Tampa Okay, I think hypothetically he gets traded to Montreal, right,
and imagine that Montreal and Montreal Canadian winsor Stanley Cup. Oh,
and that will be the first time in however many years?
What is it over thirty years now that Canada brings
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back the Cup? And it you know, it's Tom Brady esque,
it's Sidney Crosby asque. Hypothetically, that's what I would like
to see. And we'll see. But I mean, I think
that well, he's talked about it, right, He's talked about
the teams he's wanted to play for and Montreal being
his favorite team growing up. And there's a connection there
because Marty Saint Louis is the head coach. He played
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with Marty in international tournaments there's a connection there, so
I think it could work.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I think if we do all of our like research
and putting on you know, Nate and I are gonna
go our theories. We're going to go deep dive on
this one, and we can clip this when this ends
up happening and Montreal wins the Stanley Cup with Sidney Crosby.
But I do believe that this is you know, agents
are smart, they put this out there. If you are
another team, I'd be on the phone immediately. And we
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all know that Pittsburgh is selling. They're like the one
team that has been very out there, like hey, we're
getting rid of guys all this. Everyone else is stocking up.
So ooh, I just like got really excited. I mean,
maybe we see Sidney Crosby, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Sure Kyle Dubis's phone today is starting.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Do you think it happens before the season or would
this be like a trade deadline?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I think it'd be closer to trade deadline, is what
I feel like. That way they can you know, I mean,
he has to make a decision where he wants to go.
He's gonna be able to go wherever he wants, So
I think it's gonna take.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Some risk your trade deadline though. Just with like age
and like Olympics and.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Like I just think he holds all the cards. Yeah,
he holds all the cards. Whatever he wants to do.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, he can do it. He's the Harry Potter of
the NHL. He's at the Dumbledore. I guess you know.
He just he runs it. He does and he should.
He's He's earned that. Okay. Now, speaking of Montreal, other
news that came out this week quitch, This one was
a bit different. Less just say is Lane Hudson's father,
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Rob Hudson was on the Recruits Habs cast and he
told Grant mccraig excuse me, mckig, that he thought that
he was upset that his son Lane was left off
of the USA Olympic Orientation camp in August, and he said,
you never know what happens in the future. My boys
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are also Canadian. Okay. His dad comes out Beart says
some stuff. Ooh you're Lane, how are you feeling right now?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Not happy and embarrassed. I'm embarrassed for Lane, and I'm
embarrassed by his dad because you just don't do that,
and hockey parents, I don't care what level you're at.
You don't go and say stuff like that. You are
not like Lane. You are Lane Hudson's dad. That is
how you are addressed right now, Lane Hudson's dad, So
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shut up, shut up?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Does this not make it worse?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Makes it ten times worse? Shut up? Like, if I'm
Bill Garren, I'm like, well, do you think I want
to deal with this for two.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Weeks, I'd be like immediately no, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You're making this worse for Lane. And not only that,
you're making it worse for him. Because if I'm another
player and another team and I'm playing against Lane next year,
what do you think I'm gonna bring.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Up probably his dad.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, I'm probably gonna chase him down and I'm gonna
start mentioning stuff about his dad.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So but what if Lane's like, oh god, dad, no stop,
Like I didn't want him to do that. Like I
told you before, how my mom goes on forums that
are like about me. They are like dudes just being like,
oh she needs facial reconstruction surgery and She's like no, stop,
sake me tinks about daughter. I'm like, Mom, get off
the reddit boards like don't do.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That, and like yeah, and I understand where he's coming from.
He's a protective dad. I get that, but I mean,
your kid's in the NHL.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
He's yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I mean, but like Lane is okay, he's gonna be okay.
He had an unbelievable year last year. It takes time.
You're gonna be involved. Look at usas D right, like
how good they are? Like that probably the best D
internationally I think as a whole. And sorry, Lane, but
you know who's coming off right, you have to earn it.
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I just he had an unbelievable year. But like you
don't your your dad is Lane Hudson's dad. Cannot come
out and say that. You can't come out and say
all these things about okay, my son should be here
and then and then and then to say, oh, well
Canada won't. Do you think Canada wants to deal with that?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Do you think John Cooper's like okay, yeah, sure, I'd
love to take them.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, we're gonna take this now. I just I can't
understand that he would say that and talk about okay, well,
our sons have you know Canadian passports too? Right? Like
I don't. I don't understand that, and it's threatening. We
can go on all day, but to threaten and say
all that it's just inappropriate. You put your son in
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a bad situation and you know it's this is going
to linger a little bit too.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, it could have had hurt his international future or whatever.
You never know. So, parents, if you're listening, because we
are a podcast that is popular amongst the dads. I've
found out over the summer at all my cousin's wedding where.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Leane Hudson's dad might not be listening.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
To Yeah, yeah, right right now. We might have lost
a couple dads that had dropped off after this. But
according to my dad, who played golf with Jordan Bennington's dad,
they listen to this podcast. So shout out to the
dads out there. I not sure how or why we've
gotten into your algorithm, but we are happy to be here.
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We appreciate it, and you know who else is happy
to be here? Some of our guests, tons of guys
stop by to chat with me and Nate and we're
going to take a quick time out right now. But
coming up after the break, Patrick Kane sits down for
a discussion about why he should be on team You say,
don't go anywhere. Okay, we are here with the one
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and only Patrick Kane, three times Stanley Cup champion and
of course silver medalists with Team USA. You are, You're back.
You're with Detroit. You got one year deal, you just
signed with them. You're thirty six years old. I'm just
putting all the stats that I remember from Wikipedia out
here right now. But I mean, what's it like for
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a guy in the off season just training to get
back in shape that like maybe people wouldn't realize that
you have to do when you get to kind of
this age, it's like extra well.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I mean, I feel like the off season now really
isn't an off season anymore. It's you know, I feel like,
you know, Nate, you can probably attest to this, but
back when I first started, you take like a month,
month and a half off whatever before you even start
working out. Now it's like you take a week or
two off and you get right back into it. So,
you know, I don't know if that's me and my
age or just like just the way it is now.
(15:04):
It seems like everyone's trying to gain whatever edge they can,
whether it's you know, nutrition, recovery, you know, obviously picking
up different things throughout the off season, whether it's working
with the skills coach or speed skill, you know, your shot,
everyone works on that stuff. But yeah, it's it's really
a full year round thing now, so there's really no
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off season too much anymore. But you know, that's the
way it is. And I feel like for me, it's
it's fun because you know, I still love it. I
still enjoy it. I still you know, love being on
the ice, you know, whether it's you know, in the
playoffs or you know, in the off season, whatever it
may be. So but yeah, always trying to get better,
always trying to be better than the year before, and
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you know, stay at a high level.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I noticed you're obviously your former teammate Jonathan Tave's talking
about putting up that all the stuff that he's been through,
going to India doing all this. Like I don't know
what I mean, I can't pronounce whatever he was doing
over there, but like, what what's it been like, you know,
talking to him about what he's gone through and just
like him coming back.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, just happy that he's
he's feeling good, right, none of the fact that he's
able to come back and be playing again. I think
it's awesome. I know he just for talking to him,
he feels amazing. And from what I've heard, I actually
haven't skated with him from but from what I've heard,
he looks really good on the ice too, So I'm excited.
I'm excited to watch him, and you know, him going
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back to Winnipeg, his hometown, is a great story too.
I personally still think he should be in Chicago. I
don't think he ever should have left or been forced
to leave or whatever it was. But you know, he's
always a black Hawk in my eyes. But I think
it is a great story to see him, you know,
going back home, and I'm sure he's gonna do great.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, that was one of your former teamates. I mean
you've talked about, you know, chemistry that you guys had
with the Hawks in the past, and you've talked about
how you know, it wasn't forced, it was like natural. Yeah, guys, Yeah,
how was that for your guys group? How did you
guys become close to that?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Well?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I mean I just think we were all we were
all around the same age, we're all really young, even
guys that had families. I feel like we always kind
of hung out with each other, and like I said,
nothing was ever really forced. It was just like we
all wanted to be around each other. Like I can
look at six or seven of those guys and say,
at each time in my career that person was probably,
(17:33):
you know, my best friend. Yeah, so whether it was
Taser or Sharpie or Seeves or Donks.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
So you really cycled through best friends there.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I know exactly what you're saying, though, because over the
course of your career you different stages of the game. Yeah,
you know, you become close with guys.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So you know, like Seabrook for example, like he's he's hilarious,
like he's he's a fun guy to be around. He's
a guy I played cards with or next to on
the plane. You know, Taser obviously with him for five
or six years. Hos So was a guy sitting next
to in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
You know.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Sharpie was like a big brother to me. Like we
had a lot of fights, but like also a lot
of like moments where we were you know, dying laughing, right. So,
but uh, that's just kind of how our team was.
And then you mixing guys like you know, Adam Burrish
and Christopher Stie and Brian Bickle like you can go
up and obviously there's a lot of names, but Andrew
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Shaw like these guys were like glue guys that made
it a lot of fun to be around. Yeah, And
you know, like I said, it would be you know,
after a game and it wasn't like are we doing
anything or you know, do you want to do anything?
It was like what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Right?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
It was like where are we going? How are we
hanging out as a team, And it was just that's
just kind of the way it was. We just love
being around each other. And it was, like I said,
it wasn't forced. It wasn't like you have to do
this at this time to to create some team bonding,
you know, and you see that a lot now.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's like there's we're going to play laser tag.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, you're like, oh, we have to do it. We
have to do a team team bonding. Yeah, we have to,
I know what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, So it was just it was just very natural
with that group.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Some stories were floating around when I was playing, and
you know, I was a part of this the Thanksgiving
game in Anaheim and the rumors about Chicago going to
Vegas after the game, after the Thanks game every year,
and Julie like, we played this game, you're you're full,
Yeah you were there, were full, and you know, just
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say thanks even next day. And these guys are flying
like they would beat us every time in Anaheim, every
single time. But we found out rumors that you know,
Quindle liked to go to Vegas for a couple of
days and they'd have a little little trip together. So
was that part of a team bonding you guys did.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, that's that's another example. I mean, so they called
that this that was like the they call it the
Circus trip. The circus would come to the town in
Chicago and take over the United Centers. So we had
a two week road trip. We would go to Western Canada,
or we'd go to California first and then hit the
other one on the way back. But we always had
like two or three days in between. So for whatever reason,
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you know, Quinville probably wanted to go for himself more
than anybody else. Right, we would go to Vegas. We
you know, fly in the night after the game, have
that night, then the whole next day and we'd fly
out the next day. But there was there was times
where like we played in Edmonton one time before we
went to Vegas and we lost like eight to one
against Edmonton and they were terrible. Then we came back,
like obviously a couple of days in Vegas were playing
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guilty against against San Jose, one of the best teams
in the league, and we beat them five too, So
like obviously playing guilty was like sometimes good for us.
And then there's one time we played like we were
one of the best teams in the league and we
played Minnesota after and we put up like fifteen shots
and we were so bad, and it was like everyone's
just kind of looking at each other like yeah, obviously
that was from what what transpired the last couple of
(21:00):
days in Vegas, But it was always funny to see
like us getting on the plane like after the game
going to Vegas, how excited we were, and then like
the bus the day we were leaving, how quiet it was,
like everyone's like, you know, obviously you know they call
them the Blues Blues for sure, just like so quiet,
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just like totally different from like forty eight hours earlier.
But those trips were great, and that's you know, you
talk about team bonding with those were you know, guys
hanging out with each other for two straight days.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
We were all jealous and yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
That was before Vegas had a team, So we were
coming for a couple of days. And you know, I
mean I've never been to Vegas before, like all of
a sudden, you're going in the middle of the season.
Like it's incredible between a couple of games.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So when it's and it's still kept going on, even
though sometimes it wasn't that successful.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah, oh yeah. Every year it was like, okay, let's
check the schedule. Okay, we're going to California for three
days circus trip we got we got two days off here.
I think we'll be able to go to Vegas. And
sure enough it was. It was in the trips.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I mean, yeah, the chemistry that you talk about, it's
I mean that's what we remember, like the Blackhawks everyone
that you just mentioned right there. You're now playing with
Detroit and you talked about you didn't have to really
force anything. But like when you're with the team and
you maybe don't have that kind of innate chemistry, how
do you how do you approach it?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Well, I just think it's different, right, I mean those
days too in Chicago, everything was about winning, like we
had the team that was just we were coming up together.
But we were in Mold where it was just we
have to win, like this is this is our time
to win. We have a good enough team, we're building
around our core guys, and we're trying to win every year.
Now in Detroit, I mean, I'm not saying it's it's
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like that, but there's a lot of younger players. There's
guys that are trying to establish themself as players. There's
a little bit more development going on, right, like like
more practice time that you know what I like being
you know, to be honest with you, feeling healthy now
and and and not like being in pain every day
(23:06):
with my hip, Like I love practicing like it's it's great.
But you know, even even like for me playing with
with some of these younger guys, like I find I'm
learning a lot more too, like just about the game,
how these guys came up, how they trained, how they're
doing what they can to get better. The Lucas Raymonds,
the you know most ciders lark and to brink it
(23:27):
like I find myself, you know, still learning from these guys.
So it's it's exciting in a different way. And you know,
I don't want to say there's there's no team bonding
on that team, because you know, the team is very close,
and I think especially the last couple of years i've
been been there, I've really seen a lot of growth
in the team and I really feel like we're ready
(23:48):
to take that next step to make the playoffs. So yeah,
excited about the year head.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Being in Detroit. You know, I was a Red Wings
fan growing up, and yeah, Steve Eisman was the general
manager for me in Tampa. Yeah, and the guy I
had a lot of conversations with is Is he a
guy that you that you've talked to and leaned on
and taken advice from.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yeah, absolutely, I think And just looking at what he
did over his career, you know, he's got like seventeen
hundred points, you know, the Stanley Cuffs, saccolades, and how
he's still going, still working as hard as anybody loves
He works as hard as anybody in the organization, right
like the scouting, the the watching players, watching games, you know,
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being all in on hockey. So definitely a guy I've
talked to, whether it's you know when when you're struggling
and maybe, hey, what do you see up there, something
like something I can do better, you know, different parts
about the game, power play. So yeah, that's you know,
that's that's one of the really cool things about the
Red Wings. You go in the locker room and you
see Eiserman, you see Chris Draper, Dan Cleary, Lidstroms around Crownwall,
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Dad suit Zetterberg. These guys are all around the locker room.
So it's like, you know, you have a chance to
like have conversations with these guys. It's it's you know,
and I tell these younger guys, I'm like, you guys
are lucky, fortunate that these guys are here and you
can just go up and and talk to them and
you see that you know, they are having conversations with them,
and but it's it's definitely cool to see those guys around.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Well, those guys obviously had illustrious careers.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah you got to you.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Got hockey coming up, anything big coming up this.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Year, hope. So you know, I think for me, like
I have been looking fortunate to play a long time.
So maybe when you play this long, like you start
reaching some milestones.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
But any in particular, you maybe Mike Madonna.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Another game, right, No, I mean that one's that one's
gonna be cool. I think, Uh, you know, one of
the first things I did when I was drafted, they
had like a little media tour for Madonna because he
was going to pass Phil Housley and it was in
New York and uh it was Housley, Joey Mullen and Madonna.
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And then they invited like a future American and I
got to come and be with these guys, and you know,
here we are or whatever it is, like, you know,
nineteen twenty years later, and you know, I'm potentially gonna
pass the Grace American of all time. Right It's yeah, yeah, exactly.
So it's cool. It's uh, it's a great honor for me.
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I mean, you know, some of my favorite players growing
up were American, like Jeremy Ronick and Chris Chellios and uh,
Mike Madonnos. So like, you know, I paddle off on
Thane as well. So you know, it's it's cool to
you know, obviously, you know, we all want to be
young forever, but it's cool to be at the stage
of my career and potentially have some cool things on
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the rise.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Okay, so big year. You know Tmosa Olympics. I was
there the last time you guys played in Sochi. We
know that you've had conversations with Bill Garrant with Mike Sullivan. Also,
I'm gonna I'm gonna put a whole bunch of questions
into one. Okay. You also said once that you wanted
to be if you we're a hockey player, you'd be
a car dealer. If we are, we're Bill garn and
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Mike Sullivan. Right now, can you give us your best
pitch as to why you should be on team US.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
There, I'll see where you're going. Okay, all right, Well,
first off, I'm gonna get off to a good start
this season, so we're gonna have a good start. You're
gonna pick me for the player I am not the
player that you know I was in the past. I'm
gonna come in. I'm gonna do whatever I can to
help the team win, leadership, power play, whatever you want
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me to do, and we're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Go that's our captain.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
All right, Okay, that's good enough, Red White and Blue USA,
Let's go baby. All right, Patrick, thank you so much
for joining us here. Good luck. Hope to see you
at the Olympics and good luck with breaking that record
this season.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Thank you very much, Thanks Pat.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Thanks welcome back to Energy Line with Nate and JSB.
And we want to say big thank you to Patrick
Kane for joining us. And I mean, what a pitch
for Team Usay, he did not flinch at all when
we put him on the spot for that.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I love it. I mean that whole interview was great.
He's so articulated. I mean, I'm older than him. I
played against him and I was like fanning out Julie,
like I could have listened to him for another hour.
I mean, he was, he was incredible. And his pitch
to US, I told you, I mean he I'd make
him the captain. He he you could see in his eyes,
you could see how dialty is this year and how
bad he wants it, how bad he wants to be
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an Olympic team. And you know, he said he's feeling healthy.
And I just think that if you're Bill Garren and
in a short tournament like that, like anything like say
like a playoffs, whatever, it's in a short tournament, you
need veterans. You need veterans who've been there, been in
big moment games, which Patrick Kane's been in all of
them and he's flourished. So if it's me, I think
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you got to have show time on that team. I
think it's only going to help all the young guys
and you know, even me and other young guys. Like
when you hear him talking, like you want to listen
and having that guy in the locker room for the
Olympics would be would be uh monumental for.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Them, right, And he's not just the veteran presence there.
He Like what I loved in that and we've talked
about is just how we said, take me for the
player I am now, not who I was, And so
he's like showing like I'm not just some like old
like you know guy giving advice wisdom, like I'm here
to play and I'll play in any spot possible, whatever
you need. But I also have experience. So I love
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that he still has everything that really they need.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, and you can see too how grateful he is
to be here, to be playing, to be healthy. And
I can relate to that because I know at the
end of my career, I had a shoulder surgery and
you realize like towards the twilight part of your career
that you know, these little things, all these you know,
events and things, you know, you cherish it because it
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goes away and it's gone right after you're done. So
I think Patrick, you could see how grateful he is
to be here, how he wants to be a part
of it, and how he's soaking up every moment and
every minute of hockey. He just wants to be a
part of it. And you know, Detroit Red Wings are
lucky to have that guy. And I hope, I mean
I'm biased now, I mean I was Bill Garrion in
the interview, I guess, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
You you I was Bill Garrett.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Well really, yeah, I'm Billy g I think that I
think it would be huge for Team USA to pick
Patrick Kane for their team.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It is funny when you mentioned like him doing all
these you know, quote unquote little things like our podcast,
you know, is smaller than of course doing like tn
T or ESPN Sports then, but like can you imagine
him back in the three Cup era, like coming in
doing this kind of stuff, like you know, he just
had so many requests, so many things going on, but
like seeing him really as you mentioned like I said
to him, like I made a joke like, oh, you
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have to practice, ha ha ha, like that sucks or something.
He's like, no, like I love practice. Like I'm just
I'm just so grateful, Like I love that. And I
think that just even you can feel it, you can
see it, and you know that translates on the ice.
I expect him to have an incredible first half of
the season and that him to be on that Team USA.
And we want a Team USA Canada rivalry to keep
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firing up, so we do. And on that note, we're
joined by Patroson, Patrick Kane's agent, who also represents Sidney Crosby,
amongst others. And we were just talking about Kane and
Team USA. What do you think about his ability to
be a part of this team.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Yeah, well, you know, anytime you talk about Patrick Kane,
I mean, he's arguably probably one of the best skilled,
most skilled player in the history of the game. And
a couple of years ago we had the hip or surfacing.
He went through a lot, he played, he played hurt
for a while and then he came back and then
if we look at how he finished the season last year,
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over a point a game, I think last forty games
he had forty five points, and he had a great
summer knowing him, and he hasn't changed.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I mean, you know, he's what.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Thirty six now, and he still looks like he's twenty five,
you know, fully confident in his ability to make you know,
a team, US team. I mean, it was his experience
and and yet he's about to break some major records
with the All American mess player ever so, but his
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IQ for the game and what he on and off
the ice, what he could do for a team, it's
you can't put a price to it, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, Pat talk about Patrick's transformation as a leader, because
that's what really jumped out to me is his knowledge
and his wisdom. And you know, you just I guess
playing against him for so long, you don't you don't
think about that. And then when I talked to him yesterday,
it was like, Wow, this guy's wise beyond his ears.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Yeah, he's so dial that he's uh, I guess that
the apple doesn't far faull far from the tree, so
to speak. His his father, Patrick Senior, is a very
smart hockey guy. And I saw that when he when
I first met met him and started talking to the
family years ago when and and he's a student of
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the game. He's extremely articulate me about the game, about
the details of the game. Watches hockey all the time,
not only NHL players, but also.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Youth hockey at all levels. So he's a true gift
to to our game.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
And and again to your point in eight's he's just brilliant.
And he is so he sees it, you know again,
the way he plays the game, he sees it three
plays ahead. By the way he can express things off
the ice about the game. He could also you know,
draw a picture like like I usually call him Picasso.
Actually it's true. Back in the early days, I said,
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you like Picasso out there, you're doing stuff that it's
impossible for us to see, you know, in advance, you
see it in advance, but your creativity is off the charts.
It's still today. You know, creates space for himself on
the ice boarding better than anyone ever, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Right, And you bring up a great point. I mean,
he knows so much about the game. He's gone. He
talks about going back and watching old games and seeing
how like Quinville would put him with different guys and
why that worked. And just like just studying it, knowing it.
And what he told us, which we said really stood out,
was he wants to be taken on this team USA
team for what the player is now, not who he was,
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but like who he still is. But he does have
that veteran experience which is important as we know, and
to transition to veterans that we know who have been
very successful with their their countries. Of course, is your
other client who's been a bit in the news today,
which he saw Sydney Crosby, who's been pivotal for a
team Canada as we know for so many years, but
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of course especially at these past four Nations tournament. Got
to ask you, we'd be remiss. What prompted you to
talk about him being related to sort of the Tom
Brady sphere.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
I mean, any time you speak about, you know, a
great player like we talk abou Patrick Kane with Sydney,
you know, I mean, especially at a time of this
time of the year when the season's about to start,
there's there's always speculations about certain things. And all I
said is a he's a great player and he's been consistent.
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I mean, now he broke a record last year point
a game for twenty years straight. I mean, yeah, when
you're talking about Wayne Gretzky records going down, it's really special.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
So I mean I say less is more.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
I mean, the season's about to start and hopefully you'll
have a great year and the team will have a
great year, and things are you know, taken in a
certain way at times that you know, when we talk
about a player like that, you know there's a lot
of speculations or it's probably.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Blowing up a little bit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I didn't expect the reaction, but I didn't say anything
other than I compare him to a Tom Brady. You know,
he continues to be better and better with age, and
that's all I really said essentially. So but you know,
you know it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
This Yeah, it's everywhere.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
We we love to you know, see something and hear
something and then we think, hey, wait, Tom Brady was
so successful at the Patriots and then he went to Tampa,
and I think that's what everyone Well, yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
I meant to say, he's just as consistent as a
Tom Brady. I mean it could be could be in
Pittsburg for the next five years for all I know.
He deserves to continue, you know, the player that he is, hopefully,
and I said, like, we like to see a player
like that in the playoffs. And I also said that
if if let's say Pittsburgh in the playoffs, these speculations
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will go away, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
So I was more.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Talking about the quality of the player that he is
and he consistency and what he brings to the table
still today on a day to day basis, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
So, yeah, I love that thought because I was at
Four Nations and the game against Sweden the first game
when he had three assists, and I called it a
Michael Jordan moment really the way he showed up and
basically willed their team to win moving forward throughout the
season is obviously you've known Sid for a long time.
You guys are very close. Is it an open discussion
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with you and him throughout the season as the season
progresses of what what could transpire?
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Like all our players, you know, you touch base with
them on a regular basis, you know, just to touch base.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
To find out the goods and the bads and where
they're at, and you.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Have conversations some of most of them, if not the
ninety percent of them are confidential and with all ice
off ie stuff, so no different than any other different
regular season would sid it's no different in the past
that we were going to continue to.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Talk about things.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
And but again the goal here is hopefully that things
will go well and you know that he'll be you know,
playing in Pittsburgh. Again, I'm not speculating anything other than that.
Like I said, like, we want to make sure as
an agency that we connect with our players and and
that they you know, we're there to support their goals
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and through thick and thins at times, you know, you
got to be there and only when the players got
a you know, a hat trick or a great game.
And there's also a lot of medical files. There's so
much going on during the year. So we on a
regular basis we touch base where player and we re
evaluate where they're at.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
You know, speaking of your clients, you long term extensions.
You've got Dustin Wolf signed and which I thought was
a fantastic deal for both sides. And you know, talk
about your relationship with Dustin Wolf because I know you've
known him for a long time.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
No, in Dustin since he's actually six or seven years old.
I mean, he's a two thousand and one and my
son Brendan was an O one as well, and growing
up in California, we had a good team.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Rob blake was a coach.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
And Nelson Emmer and I were coaching the team. But
at one point we need a goaltending because we used
to go to tournaments and when you fly from California
at to Boston or Detroit or Toronto and you lose
the first two games, you gotta play four instead of
six or seven. And our goaltending was fair. I mean,
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I'm not putting any but we needed someone special and
this kid every time we played San Jose because he
was from San Jose, I mean he was like you know,
with peppered him with forty to fifty shots and gave
up a goal or two.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
So one day I told.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Blakey told Roberts, we need goaltending, and I called the
parents and Michelle and Mike and convinced them to meet.
And not for recruiting him at all, It was to
make her feew we team, our a ten year old
team better. See I was a crazy dad too, And
then I convinced convince the family to actually move to
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the Junior King's program and then a year later brought Jackson,
Leacom and Helliston from Minnesota. So then we had a
good team with the Quebec. We almost won Quebec, but
Wolfe was standing on his head, you know, everywhere, and
we went. And then at sixteen he went to play
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in Western Hockey League. It was Goalie of the Year
sixteen seventeen. Everywhere he went. I mean, now, draft day
was a hard day. He went in the seventh round
and I remember we were pretty much done within the
first two hours. All our clients were selected the top
thirty forty, and Dustin was sitting up there and I
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went to sit with him and his family. In the
fifth round. I thought he was going to go in
fifth or sixth worst case. And then seventh round. I
was texting a lot of GMS and begging teams to
take a look and he was a little too small
ball and invite him to a camp. We'll invite him
to our campus, said I don't want him invited, I
want him drafted. And finally Calgary brad Trade been drafting him,
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I think fifty the last, almost the last pick of
the draft. They we were sitting up there almost touching
the roof and and everyone start you know, crying and
joy and and I was so proud of him. And
got drafted and he told he told it, Brad at
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the table, they says, you won't regret this pick, you know.
And and then he you know, kept playing in the
Western Hockey League and he went to the American League.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Goaldie.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
The year he kept proving everyone, you know, what he is.
And this year was a nomination for Rookie of the Year.
So to see the kind of contract he signed, it's
he earned it. He had a year left on his contract,
but to give him the security now starting next year,
fifty two point five million. He earned it. And what's
the delta? If you wait, you could potentially make a
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little bit more. But doing it now, I think it's
a win win for him and the team.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Well, all those their gms will definitely be upset that
they didn't listen.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
They should listen after they should definitely, I know.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Well, I mean it's amazing hearing you talk about getting
this deal done. You know, you're you have all these clients,
Like I mean, you're talking to us right now and
you're not on your phone, You're not taking calls, Like,
how is a day for you, Like when you have
so many clients and so many big time clients and
you've got to get these deals done. Are you up
just like all the time?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, I mean we have to. You have to balance too,
you know, we have to.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
You know, take care of yourself so to speak, fuel
your your tank the right way and uh and be
ready for all kinds of different challenges. Obviously there's times
during the year where it slows down a bit, a
little bit, but there's always a crisis somewhere, like it's only.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Our big time client.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
People say, well, you know, Pat is busy with this
guy that guide all the superstars. But quite frankly, a
lot of my time the last three weeks has been
trying to find jobs for players that you need. Our
time in our you know, not going to make millions
of dollars, so we make a commitment to them. So
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you want to balance and you want to make sure
that you give the right example to your staff. I mean,
we have what close to thirty people worldwide, and we
take pride in making things getting things done the right way.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
So how did today go? After you know the comments
about sid Well, you.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Know, I read the comments and I you know I
didn't say anything wrong. It's not like you know, obviously,
when you talk about a high profile player like Sid,
things are gonna it's you know, be perceive a cent way.
It's creat it creates, it creates traction. But same time,
I just want to make sure that I didn't say
anything crazy, which I don't think I did. All I
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really said is he's a great player, and then we
want to continue to see him and hopefully in the playoffs.
But the curves that are throwing at us, and as
a priority a lot of times are the medical files.
So I could be on a big file and all
of a sudden we get a call that a player
needs a second opinion, a m c L or.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Shoulder or any time.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
Those are things that will take will take priority on anything.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
So and you get to navigate that.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
And players understand if you say I got to work
on this, I'm talking to doctor about this or that,
can I get back to you as long as you're
in touch.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
And you you don't.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
You know, you got to treat people the right way,
and you got to get back to people. And then
sometimes it goes past the eight to five, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
No hours speaking before we let you go back. Speaking
of high profile clients, you have three high profile brothers
and the Hughes brothers, and you know, Jack talked about,
you know, playing with Quenn and his brothers, and you know,
talk about the possibility of that and navigating that, and
then's however, however long that could transport?
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Yeah, people say, you know, they ask the questions to
either Quinn or Jack or Luke, and all I say
in this it's also again again I say the same thing,
it's a possibility. When I say it's a possibility, hopefully
they'll play another fifteen years, and who knows, it could
happen in six years, It could happen in later, who knows.
I mean, those are possibilities and that's what makes it
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fun in our game to imagine. And I just once
said to a writer in Montreal's it's okay to dream
also about Yeah, because they asked me about a player,
could he come? You think he could come and play
for us? So well, you know, can't stop me from dreaming.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Now.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
The possibilities are there. Never know if Wayne gretz Ski
ever got traded anyone, can you know?
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Sucks?
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah, keeps the door open for a lot of different things.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yeah, exactly, and then.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
I guess just for you personally, like who's who's someone
or something that inspires you to keep going every day
when you're like dealing with all these different things.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
Well, I mean it's a good que questions. I mean,
I like to I look up to people that have
been consistent throughout their lives in different you know form platform.
It doesn't have to be hockey. I like to read
about other you know, leaders in different feels and their
stories and you know, basically try to you know, because
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I'm only happy when I feel that I'm you know, productive.
That's kind of my DNA, so to speak. It's hard
for me to be uh, I mean standing still a
little bit, but I'm kind of unhappy when I'm not productive.
It's just my fuel, I guess, and that's what keeps
me going.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, well you should be pretty happy because you're very productive.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
I feel good today.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
See what happens tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Well, we're really appreciative of your time.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Thank you for inviting me. Appreciate it, thank you, thank
you so much.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
On energy line, we're the we're the guys that you
need to give attention to, the third liners.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
I don't have the big contracts.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
I love the energy line that. I love that. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
All right. That was Pat personal agent for so many
illustrious NHL players. And he's from Cia. He obviously has
just a wealth of experienced, wealth of knowledge, and but
he seemed like a really down to earth guy, and
it seemed like he didn't want people to run away
with the Sydney Crosby comment too much, like don't read
into the whole tom Brady going to Tampa and this
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and that. He just meant he's the goat. He is
the greatest, you know, and we hope that it works
out in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
I mean I do too. I think everyone wants to
see Sid do well. I want to see Pittsburgh do well.
And I think he was really trying to stress, Like
you said, he was trying to stress the fact that
he is comparing him to Tom Brady, which it's totally valid.
He is Tom Brady of hockey. Pat is great guy.
You know. I got to know him a little bit more.
He never had presented me, but I got to know
him during the COVID time and I was trying to
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get ice, trying to skate and I was actually skating
with his son, Brendan and a bunch of other guys,
and he was putting together ice for us. So definitely
grateful for him for that. But Pat, you know, it
was great getting to hear him and he hear his
view and then hear his opinion from Sid and Kane's
point of view, right, and how he represents him and
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how he has to you know, check in on him,
talk through them throughout the whole season and make sure
that they're on the same page. It was it was
very interesting for me to listen to that as well.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
I'll say, like, okay, so you know, as I mentioned
to him, like we've had agents, have been around the
agent business. I've worked with a lot of lawyers this year.
I sometimes then double what I think about it again,
like they're so good at talking to people, right, Sometimes
I'm like, wait, is he just like really good at
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his job that I'm like, I believe everything you say
right now? You know, like you're just because I mean,
he's the biggest agent in the NHL and he's getting
monster deals for guys. You have to have incredible people
skills and be able to read people and then be
able to respond and it's like chess that then I
just think it's so fascinating, like you know, it's it's
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it's mind games at different points.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, and he's been doing this for so long, right,
Like he's a veteran at his job as well. And
when you have guys like he does, like Sydney Crosby
and these guys, you know they it makes you better too.
I'm sure it makes him better at the end of.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
The day, I surely wouldn't be a good NHL GM.
I'm like, all right, Okay, whatever you want, Pappers, any
deal you want, because he does. He is an awesome guy.
And I've also, you know, want to put it out there,
I've played hockey with him too, Nate, Okay, so yeah,
we're both We're both pretty good out there. I joke,
just joking for my NHL are obviously me just holding
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the microphone here right now. And we want to thank
you guys for listening to this episode of Energy Line
with Natan JSB from Vegas.
Speaker 5 (50:08):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
It's been a wild ride here and this has been
a production of the NHL and iHeart podcast. We want
to thank Patrick Kane and Patrick Soft for joining us
and thanks to our producers Matt Heva and Bob Bender.
We'll be back with you next week for more interviews
from the Player Media Tour. Thanks so much for listening.
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We'll go on into Energy Line with Nate and JSB.
I'm Julie Sharp Banks and he's former NHLR Nate Thompson.
This is a production of the NHL and I Heart podcasts.
We are in Vegas, baby, and it's for the NHL
Player Media Tour, not for a bacherette or a bachelor party.
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Those are those are old our old days, Nate.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
But we're here to pod, We're here to pode. This
is my first time of the NHL Media Tour ever.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Same Yeah. Look, we're rookies here and we've been having
a great time. But first let's get caught up. What's
been going on with you?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
What's been going on this last week? I went camping
with my daughter Sequoia.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Wow, which was amazing a two year old.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, with my dog to Eddie. So it was fun.
We saw some Sequoia redwood trees and hung out, did
some camping, ate some food off the fire, chased her
around and the dog a little bit. It was It
was great. It was a lot of fun. It was beautiful,
like California. You don't realize how many beautiful places there
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are like you can go to a different terrain. You're
in the desert. Next thing you know, you're in the
woods with trees that are fifty feet wide. You know,
it's it was amazing. So that's what's been going on.
And now I'm here in Vegas and I'm excited to
be here.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You know, I've congratulated you on being a good dad before,
like dad points to Nate, But taking your two year
old daughter and a dog camping.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well, let's all clarify. It wasn't camping. It was glamor.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Okay, there we go.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
That's a minor detail. I probably should I should add
in there. It was glamping, and it was awesome. You
basically rent out these airstreams and there's levels to it,
and so you get an airstream. So yeah, you know
we had ac and a nice.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Bad That sounds more California.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah it was, but you know I had I made
every meal over the fire, So I mean it's kind
of still six mixture, both camping and clamping a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You weren't like portaging with a canoe or anything like that,
which is good.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, no, no, no, I wasn't in a tent.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yes, yes, Okay, all right, well neither was I. I
went to three concerts last week. There are seven days
in a week. I went to three concerts, which is
I think maybe too many concerts in one week. Went
to Oasis at MetLife. The concert was great. I mean
I grew up on Oasis and the cassette. Of course
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we all did, uh. And then I went to Tate
McCrae Canadian Icon also played at the NHL All Star
Game and now was like one three va maze this week.
Absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Calgary too, I believe right from Calgary.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
She's the Britney Spears of this era. And then, of course,
as many people who are listening to this probably know me, well,
I went to later Gaga again for concert number two
and was great and not just I'm a big Gaga stance.
So I can't wait to have her on the Energy
Line podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Do they have a name for Gaga fans like they
do Swift like Swifty?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
What is called little Monsters? And she's a mother monster?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Okay, yeah, so you're a little monster.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yet's say it's a little darker than the whole thing. Okay,
But so let's get to the good stuff we see
this week today, we're recording on Tuesday. Lots of things
to permeate on. Dustin Wolf, goaltender, signed a seven year,
fifty two point five million dollar contract extension following a
great rookie season with the Calgary Flames. That's seven point
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five aa V. And you've been talking about this one.
What what is the biggest point about this kind of
track for you?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, I think it's the potential value of this contract.
Like you look at other big goalies in the league
and guys that are paid like Shasterkin Bubovski. They're elite obviously,
but it handcuffs the rest of the teams right with
cap flexibility. So being able to sign Dustin Wolf at
a seven point five AAV first in the next seven years,
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I mean potentially in four years he could be one
of the best goalies in the league, top five goalies
in the league. And if you have him at seven
point five, it just creates so much flexibility for their
team in the long term. So I love the contract.
I think it's great. I saw him play in the
American League. He was dominant down there. He obviously had
a rookie rookie candidate Rookie of the Year candidate season.
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So I love the deal, and I think Calgary. I
think Calgary kind of hit a home run on this one, right.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They clearly see a lot of potential in him for
the long term, and so that could work out well
for them and of course for him in terms of
getting paid. Right now, let's get to some even bigger news,
which you know, I got to give you some props there, Nate,
he's a big j journo. He found this one on
Instagram right before we started recording, and that came from TSN.
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Put up what Pierre Lebrun had posted from an interview
with pat Erson. This is an agent for Sidney Crosby,
who said he's talking about Sidney Crosby here. Okay, so
quote the comparison is Tom Brady. We want Sidney to
hopefully be in the playoffs every year. We want him
to hopefully win another Cup or two. So each year
the team that he's playing for fails to make the playoffs,
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it creates a lot of speculation. In reality, he's not
getting younger. He goes on to say, it's been three
years they haven't made the playoffs. It all depends on
how sid is going to be and how the team
is going to do. I maintain the same position that
I do believe that he should be playing playoff hockey
every year. In my opinion.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Holy wow.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
The connection to Tom Brady makes me think that maybe
Sidney Crosby might be taking his talents somewhere else potentially.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
The comparison is spot on, and I love that Pat
compared him to Tom Brady because it is it's similar. Goat,
Yeah he is. He's a goat and Crosby is a
face of our league. I know Conormy David, but Crosby's
been the face of our league for twenty years. And
Pat Boisson is all of us in the end of
the day. I think he wants is he because he
wants to see Sidney Crosby when he wants to see Stanley.
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He wants to see him win another Stanley Cup. And
I can safely say I think all of us want that, right,
And I think that him coming out and saying that
there's that holds some traction because I think it's calculated, right.
I think Pat's coming out to say this. You know
they've been talking and sid is curious of what the
Pittsburgh Penguins plans are in the future, and you know
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he's playing some meaningful hockey, Like he played in four
Nations last year. He was unbelievable. He's playing in the
Olympics this year. I'm sure he's going to be the
Crosby that we know.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So I'm going to square then to win gold exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah. Well, but anyways, I digress. He he I think,
you know, he wants to play meaningful hockey, like Pats said, like,
you're playing in these meaningful tournaments and then you're going
to the end of the regular season and you're not making.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
The playoffs, Like, it's a waste.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It's a waste. It's a waste for everybody that's a
fan of hockey. And I think at the end of
the day, Sidney Crosby wants to win another company, wants
to play meaningful hockey. And I think pat coming out,
Paperson coming out and say that it excites me and
it should excite everyone else.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, he's essentially putting the bat signal out there for teams,
being like, hey, are you maybe potentially interested because I'm
putting this statement out there. We all know what happened
with Tom Brady, how he was with the Patriots and
then he obviously went to Tampa Bay wins a Super
Bowl with Tampa Bay. With this, if you are if okay,
we're in Vegas, you're betting, man, who would you bet?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
If say he was to take his talents go to
another team.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
What would it be hypothetically?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, first, do you think it could happen? Number one?
And then number two?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And I'm going to compare this to Tom Brady and
Tampa Okay, I think hypothetically he gets traded to Montreal, right,
and imagine that Montreal and Montreal Canadian winsor Stanley Cup. Oh,
and that will be the first time in however many years?
What is it over thirty years now that Canada brings
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back the Cup? And it you know, it's Tom Brady esque,
it's Sidney Crosby asque. Hypothetically, that's what I would like
to see. And we'll see. But I mean, I think
that well, he's talked about it, right, He's talked about
the teams he's wanted to play for and Montreal being
his favorite team growing up. And there's a connection there
because Marty Saint Louis is the head coach. He played
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with Marty in international tournaments there's a connection there, so
I think it could work.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I think if we do all of our like research
and putting on you know, Nate and I are gonna
go our theories. We're going to go deep dive on
this one, and we can clip this when this ends
up happening and Montreal wins the Stanley Cup with Sidney Crosby.
But I do believe that this is you know, agents
are smart, they put this out there. If you are
another team, I'd be on the phone immediately. And we
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all know that Pittsburgh is selling. They're like the one
team that has been very out there, like hey, we're
getting rid of guys all this. Everyone else is stocking up.
So ooh, I just like got really excited. I mean,
maybe we see Sidney Crosby, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Sure Kyle Dubis's phone today is starting.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Do you think it happens before the season or would
this be like a trade deadline?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I think it'd be closer to trade deadline, is what
I feel like. That way they can you know, I mean,
he has to make a decision where he wants to go.
He's gonna be able to go wherever he wants, So
I think it's gonna take.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Some risk your trade deadline though. Just with like age
and like Olympics and.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Like I just think he holds all the cards. Yeah,
he holds all the cards. Whatever he wants to do.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, he can do it. He's the Harry Potter of
the NHL. He's at the Dumbledore. I guess you know.
He just he runs it. He does and he should.
He's He's earned that. Okay. Now, speaking of Montreal, other
news that came out this week quitch, This one was
a bit different. Less just say is Lane Hudson's father,
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Rob Hudson was on the Recruits Habs cast and he
told Grant mccraig excuse me, mckig, that he thought that
he was upset that his son Lane was left off
of the USA Olympic Orientation camp in August, and he said,
you never know what happens in the future. My boys
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are also Canadian. Okay. His dad comes out Beart says
some stuff. Ooh you're Lane, how are you feeling right now?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Not happy and embarrassed. I'm embarrassed for Lane, and I'm
embarrassed by his dad because you just don't do that,
and hockey parents, I don't care what level you're at.
You don't go and say stuff like that. You are
not like Lane. You are Lane Hudson's dad. That is
how you are addressed right now, Lane Hudson's dad, So
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shut up, shut up?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Does this not make it worse?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Makes it ten times worse? Shut up? Like, if I'm
Bill Garren, I'm like, well, do you think I want
to deal with this for two.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Weeks, I'd be like immediately no, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You're making this worse for Lane. And not only that,
you're making it worse for him. Because if I'm another
player and another team and I'm playing against Lane next year,
what do you think I'm gonna bring.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Up probably his dad.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, I'm probably gonna chase him down and I'm gonna
start mentioning stuff about his dad.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So but what if Lane's like, oh god, dad, no stop,
Like I didn't want him to do that. Like I
told you before, how my mom goes on forums that
are like about me. They are like dudes just being like,
oh she needs facial reconstruction surgery and She's like no, stop,
sake me tinks about daughter. I'm like, Mom, get off
the reddit boards like don't do.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That, and like yeah, and I understand where he's coming from.
He's a protective dad. I get that, but I mean,
your kid's in the NHL.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
He's yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I mean, but like Lane is okay, he's gonna be okay.
He had an unbelievable year last year. It takes time.
You're gonna be involved. Look at usas D right, like
how good they are? Like that probably the best D
internationally I think as a whole. And sorry, Lane, but
you know who's coming off right, you have to earn it.
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I just he had an unbelievable year. But like you
don't your your dad is Lane Hudson's dad. Cannot come
out and say that. You can't come out and say
all these things about okay, my son should be here
and then and then and then to say, oh, well
Canada won't. Do you think Canada wants to deal with that?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Do you think John Cooper's like okay, yeah, sure, I'd
love to take them.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, we're gonna take this now. I just I can't
understand that he would say that and talk about okay, well,
our sons have you know Canadian passports too? Right? Like
I don't. I don't understand that, and it's threatening. We
can go on all day, but to threaten and say
all that it's just inappropriate. You put your son in
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a bad situation and you know it's this is going
to linger a little bit too.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, it could have had hurt his international future or whatever.
You never know. So, parents, if you're listening, because we
are a podcast that is popular amongst the dads. I've
found out over the summer at all my cousin's wedding where.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Leane Hudson's dad might not be listening.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
To Yeah, yeah, right right now. We might have lost
a couple dads that had dropped off after this. But
according to my dad, who played golf with Jordan Bennington's dad,
they listen to this podcast. So shout out to the
dads out there. I not sure how or why we've
gotten into your algorithm, but we are happy to be here.
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We appreciate it, and you know who else is happy
to be here? Some of our guests, tons of guys
stop by to chat with me and Nate and we're
going to take a quick time out right now. But
coming up after the break, Patrick Kane sits down for
a discussion about why he should be on team You say,
don't go anywhere. Okay, we are here with the one
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and only Patrick Kane, three times Stanley Cup champion and
of course silver medalists with Team USA. You are, You're back.
You're with Detroit. You got one year deal, you just
signed with them. You're thirty six years old. I'm just
putting all the stats that I remember from Wikipedia out
here right now. But I mean, what's it like for
(14:30):
a guy in the off season just training to get
back in shape that like maybe people wouldn't realize that
you have to do when you get to kind of
this age, it's like extra well.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I mean, I feel like the off season now really
isn't an off season anymore. It's you know, I feel like,
you know, Nate, you can probably attest to this, but
back when I first started, you take like a month,
month and a half off whatever before you even start
working out. Now it's like you take a week or
two off and you get right back into it. So,
you know, I don't know if that's me and my
age or just like just the way it is now.
(15:04):
It seems like everyone's trying to gain whatever edge they can,
whether it's you know, nutrition, recovery, you know, obviously picking
up different things throughout the off season, whether it's working
with the skills coach or speed skill, you know, your shot,
everyone works on that stuff. But yeah, it's it's really
a full year round thing now, so there's really no
(15:28):
off season too much anymore. But you know, that's the
way it is. And I feel like for me, it's
it's fun because you know, I still love it. I
still enjoy it. I still you know, love being on
the ice, you know, whether it's you know, in the
playoffs or you know, in the off season, whatever it
may be. So but yeah, always trying to get better,
always trying to be better than the year before, and
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you know, stay at a high level.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I noticed you're obviously your former teammate Jonathan Tave's talking
about putting up that all the stuff that he's been through,
going to India doing all this. Like I don't know
what I mean, I can't pronounce whatever he was doing
over there, but like, what what's it been like, you know,
talking to him about what he's gone through and just
like him coming back.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, just happy that he's
he's feeling good, right, none of the fact that he's
able to come back and be playing again. I think
it's awesome. I know he just for talking to him,
he feels amazing. And from what I've heard, I actually
haven't skated with him from but from what I've heard,
he looks really good on the ice too, So I'm excited.
I'm excited to watch him, and you know, him going
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back to Winnipeg, his hometown, is a great story too.
I personally still think he should be in Chicago. I
don't think he ever should have left or been forced
to leave or whatever it was. But you know, he's
always a black Hawk in my eyes. But I think
it is a great story to see him, you know,
going back home, and I'm sure he's gonna do great.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, that was one of your former teamates. I mean
you've talked about, you know, chemistry that you guys had
with the Hawks in the past, and you've talked about
how you know, it wasn't forced, it was like natural. Yeah, guys, Yeah,
how was that for your guys group? How did you
guys become close to that?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Well?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I mean I just think we were all we were
all around the same age, we're all really young, even
guys that had families. I feel like we always kind
of hung out with each other, and like I said,
nothing was ever really forced. It was just like we
all wanted to be around each other. Like I can
look at six or seven of those guys and say,
at each time in my career that person was probably,
(17:33):
you know, my best friend. Yeah, so whether it was
Taser or Sharpie or Seeves or Donks.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
So you really cycled through best friends there.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I know exactly what you're saying, though, because over the
course of your career you different stages of the game. Yeah,
you know, you become close with guys.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So you know, like Seabrook for example, like he's he's hilarious,
like he's he's a fun guy to be around. He's
a guy I played cards with or next to on
the plane. You know, Taser obviously with him for five
or six years. Hos So was a guy sitting next
to in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
You know.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Sharpie was like a big brother to me. Like we
had a lot of fights, but like also a lot
of like moments where we were you know, dying laughing, right. So,
but uh, that's just kind of how our team was.
And then you mixing guys like you know, Adam Burrish
and Christopher Stie and Brian Bickle like you can go
up and obviously there's a lot of names, but Andrew
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Shaw like these guys were like glue guys that made
it a lot of fun to be around. Yeah, And
you know, like I said, it would be you know,
after a game and it wasn't like are we doing
anything or you know, do you want to do anything?
It was like what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Right?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
It was like where are we going? How are we
hanging out as a team, And it was just that's
just kind of the way it was. We just love
being around each other. And it was, like I said,
it wasn't forced. It wasn't like you have to do
this at this time to to create some team bonding,
you know, and you see that a lot now.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's like there's we're going to play laser tag.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, you're like, oh, we have to do it. We
have to do a team team bonding. Yeah, we have to,
I know what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, So it was just it was just very natural
with that group.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Some stories were floating around when I was playing, and
you know, I was a part of this the Thanksgiving
game in Anaheim and the rumors about Chicago going to
Vegas after the game, after the Thanks game every year,
and Julie like, we played this game, you're you're full,
Yeah you were there, were full, and you know, just
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say thanks even next day. And these guys are flying
like they would beat us every time in Anaheim, every
single time. But we found out rumors that you know,
Quindle liked to go to Vegas for a couple of
days and they'd have a little little trip together. So
was that part of a team bonding you guys did.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, that's that's another example. I mean, so they called
that this that was like the they call it the
Circus trip. The circus would come to the town in
Chicago and take over the United Centers. So we had
a two week road trip. We would go to Western Canada,
or we'd go to California first and then hit the
other one on the way back. But we always had
like two or three days in between. So for whatever reason,
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you know, Quinville probably wanted to go for himself more
than anybody else. Right, we would go to Vegas. We
you know, fly in the night after the game, have
that night, then the whole next day and we'd fly
out the next day. But there was there was times
where like we played in Edmonton one time before we
went to Vegas and we lost like eight to one
against Edmonton and they were terrible. Then we came back,
like obviously a couple of days in Vegas were playing
(20:38):
guilty against against San Jose, one of the best teams
in the league, and we beat them five too, So
like obviously playing guilty was like sometimes good for us.
And then there's one time we played like we were
one of the best teams in the league and we
played Minnesota after and we put up like fifteen shots
and we were so bad, and it was like everyone's
just kind of looking at each other like yeah, obviously
that was from what what transpired the last couple of
(21:00):
days in Vegas, But it was always funny to see
like us getting on the plane like after the game
going to Vegas, how excited we were, and then like
the bus the day we were leaving, how quiet it was,
like everyone's like, you know, obviously you know they call
them the Blues Blues for sure, just like so quiet,
(21:21):
just like totally different from like forty eight hours earlier.
But those trips were great, and that's you know, you
talk about team bonding with those were you know, guys
hanging out with each other for two straight days.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
We were all jealous and yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
That was before Vegas had a team, So we were
coming for a couple of days. And you know, I
mean I've never been to Vegas before, like all of
a sudden, you're going in the middle of the season.
Like it's incredible between a couple of games.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So when it's and it's still kept going on, even
though sometimes it wasn't that successful.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah, oh yeah. Every year it was like, okay, let's
check the schedule. Okay, we're going to California for three
days circus trip we got we got two days off here.
I think we'll be able to go to Vegas. And
sure enough it was. It was in the trips.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I mean, yeah, the chemistry that you talk about, it's
I mean that's what we remember, like the Blackhawks everyone
that you just mentioned right there. You're now playing with
Detroit and you talked about you didn't have to really
force anything. But like when you're with the team and
you maybe don't have that kind of innate chemistry, how
do you how do you approach it?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Well, I just think it's different, right, I mean those
days too in Chicago, everything was about winning, like we
had the team that was just we were coming up together.
But we were in Mold where it was just we
have to win, like this is this is our time
to win. We have a good enough team, we're building
around our core guys, and we're trying to win every year.
Now in Detroit, I mean, I'm not saying it's it's
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like that, but there's a lot of younger players. There's
guys that are trying to establish themself as players. There's
a little bit more development going on, right, like like
more practice time that you know what I like being
you know, to be honest with you, feeling healthy now
and and and not like being in pain every day
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with my hip, Like I love practicing like it's it's great.
But you know, even even like for me playing with
with some of these younger guys, like I find I'm
learning a lot more too, like just about the game,
how these guys came up, how they trained, how they're
doing what they can to get better. The Lucas Raymonds,
the you know most ciders lark and to brink it
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like I find myself, you know, still learning from these guys.
So it's it's exciting in a different way. And you know,
I don't want to say there's there's no team bonding
on that team, because you know, the team is very close,
and I think especially the last couple of years i've
been been there, I've really seen a lot of growth
in the team and I really feel like we're ready
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to take that next step to make the playoffs. So yeah,
excited about the year head.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Being in Detroit. You know, I was a Red Wings
fan growing up, and yeah, Steve Eisman was the general
manager for me in Tampa. Yeah, and the guy I
had a lot of conversations with is Is he a
guy that you that you've talked to and leaned on
and taken advice from.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yeah, absolutely, I think And just looking at what he
did over his career, you know, he's got like seventeen
hundred points, you know, the Stanley Cuffs, saccolades, and how
he's still going, still working as hard as anybody loves
He works as hard as anybody in the organization, right
like the scouting, the the watching players, watching games, you know,
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being all in on hockey. So definitely a guy I've
talked to, whether it's you know when when you're struggling
and maybe, hey, what do you see up there, something
like something I can do better, you know, different parts
about the game, power play. So yeah, that's you know,
that's that's one of the really cool things about the
Red Wings. You go in the locker room and you
see Eiserman, you see Chris Draper, Dan Cleary, Lidstroms around Crownwall,
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Dad suit Zetterberg. These guys are all around the locker room.
So it's like, you know, you have a chance to
like have conversations with these guys. It's it's you know,
and I tell these younger guys, I'm like, you guys
are lucky, fortunate that these guys are here and you
can just go up and and talk to them and
you see that you know, they are having conversations with them,
and but it's it's definitely cool to see those guys around.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Well, those guys obviously had illustrious careers.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah you got to you.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Got hockey coming up, anything big coming up this.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Year, hope. So you know, I think for me, like
I have been looking fortunate to play a long time.
So maybe when you play this long, like you start
reaching some milestones.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
But any in particular, you maybe Mike Madonna.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Another game, right, No, I mean that one's that one's
gonna be cool. I think, Uh, you know, one of
the first things I did when I was drafted, they
had like a little media tour for Madonna because he
was going to pass Phil Housley and it was in
New York and uh it was Housley, Joey Mullen and Madonna.
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And then they invited like a future American and I
got to come and be with these guys, and you know,
here we are or whatever it is, like, you know,
nineteen twenty years later, and you know, I'm potentially gonna
pass the Grace American of all time. Right It's yeah, yeah, exactly.
So it's cool. It's uh, it's a great honor for me.
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I mean, you know, some of my favorite players growing
up were American, like Jeremy Ronick and Chris Chellios and uh,
Mike Madonnos. So like, you know, I paddle off on
Thane as well. So you know, it's it's cool to
you know, obviously, you know, we all want to be
young forever, but it's cool to be at the stage
of my career and potentially have some cool things on
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the rise.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Okay, so big year. You know Tmosa Olympics. I was
there the last time you guys played in Sochi. We
know that you've had conversations with Bill Garrant with Mike Sullivan. Also,
I'm gonna I'm gonna put a whole bunch of questions
into one. Okay. You also said once that you wanted
to be if you we're a hockey player, you'd be
a car dealer. If we are, we're Bill garn and
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Mike Sullivan. Right now, can you give us your best
pitch as to why you should be on team US.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
There, I'll see where you're going. Okay, all right, Well,
first off, I'm gonna get off to a good start
this season, so we're gonna have a good start. You're
gonna pick me for the player I am not the
player that you know I was in the past. I'm
gonna come in. I'm gonna do whatever I can to
help the team win, leadership, power play, whatever you want
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me to do, and we're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Go that's our captain.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
All right, Okay, that's good enough, Red White and Blue USA,
Let's go baby. All right, Patrick, thank you so much
for joining us here. Good luck. Hope to see you
at the Olympics and good luck with breaking that record
this season.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Thank you very much, Thanks Pat.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Thanks welcome back to Energy Line with Nate and JSB.
And we want to say big thank you to Patrick
Kane for joining us. And I mean, what a pitch
for Team Usay, he did not flinch at all when
we put him on the spot for that.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I love it. I mean that whole interview was great.
He's so articulated. I mean, I'm older than him. I
played against him and I was like fanning out Julie,
like I could have listened to him for another hour.
I mean, he was, he was incredible. And his pitch
to US, I told you, I mean he I'd make
him the captain. He he you could see in his eyes,
you could see how dialty is this year and how
bad he wants it, how bad he wants to be
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an Olympic team. And you know, he said he's feeling healthy.
And I just think that if you're Bill Garren and
in a short tournament like that, like anything like say
like a playoffs, whatever, it's in a short tournament, you
need veterans. You need veterans who've been there, been in
big moment games, which Patrick Kane's been in all of
them and he's flourished. So if it's me, I think
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you got to have show time on that team. I
think it's only going to help all the young guys
and you know, even me and other young guys. Like
when you hear him talking, like you want to listen
and having that guy in the locker room for the
Olympics would be would be uh monumental for.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Them, right, And he's not just the veteran presence there.
He Like what I loved in that and we've talked
about is just how we said, take me for the
player I am now, not who I was, And so
he's like showing like I'm not just some like old
like you know guy giving advice wisdom, like I'm here
to play and I'll play in any spot possible, whatever
you need. But I also have experience. So I love
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that he still has everything that really they need.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, and you can see too how grateful he is
to be here, to be playing, to be healthy. And
I can relate to that because I know at the
end of my career, I had a shoulder surgery and
you realize like towards the twilight part of your career
that you know, these little things, all these you know,
events and things, you know, you cherish it because it
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goes away and it's gone right after you're done. So
I think Patrick, you could see how grateful he is
to be here, how he wants to be a part
of it, and how he's soaking up every moment and
every minute of hockey. He just wants to be a
part of it. And you know, Detroit Red Wings are
lucky to have that guy. And I hope, I mean
I'm biased now, I mean I was Bill Garrion in
the interview, I guess, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
You you I was Bill Garrett.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Well really, yeah, I'm Billy g I think that I
think it would be huge for Team USA to pick
Patrick Kane for their team.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It is funny when you mentioned like him doing all
these you know, quote unquote little things like our podcast,
you know, is smaller than of course doing like tn
T or ESPN Sports then, but like can you imagine
him back in the three Cup era, like coming in
doing this kind of stuff, like you know, he just
had so many requests, so many things going on, but
like seeing him really as you mentioned like I said
to him, like I made a joke like, oh, you
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have to practice, ha ha ha, like that sucks or something.
He's like, no, like I love practice. Like I'm just
I'm just so grateful, Like I love that. And I
think that just even you can feel it, you can
see it, and you know that translates on the ice.
I expect him to have an incredible first half of
the season and that him to be on that Team USA.
And we want a Team USA Canada rivalry to keep
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firing up, so we do. And on that note, we're
joined by Patroson, Patrick Kane's agent, who also represents Sidney Crosby,
amongst others. And we were just talking about Kane and
Team USA. What do you think about his ability to
be a part of this team.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Yeah, well, you know, anytime you talk about Patrick Kane,
I mean, he's arguably probably one of the best skilled,
most skilled player in the history of the game. And
a couple of years ago we had the hip or surfacing.
He went through a lot, he played, he played hurt
for a while and then he came back and then
if we look at how he finished the season last year,
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over a point a game, I think last forty games
he had forty five points, and he had a great
summer knowing him, and he hasn't changed.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I mean, you know, he's what.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Thirty six now, and he still looks like he's twenty five,
you know, fully confident in his ability to make you know,
a team, US team. I mean, it was his experience
and and yet he's about to break some major records
with the All American mess player ever so, but his
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IQ for the game and what he on and off
the ice, what he could do for a team, it's
you can't put a price to it, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, Pat talk about Patrick's transformation as a leader, because
that's what really jumped out to me is his knowledge
and his wisdom. And you know, you just I guess
playing against him for so long, you don't you don't
think about that. And then when I talked to him yesterday,
it was like, Wow, this guy's wise beyond his ears.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Yeah, he's so dial that he's uh, I guess that
the apple doesn't far faull far from the tree, so
to speak. His his father, Patrick Senior, is a very
smart hockey guy. And I saw that when he when
I first met met him and started talking to the
family years ago when and and he's a student of
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the game. He's extremely articulate me about the game, about
the details of the game. Watches hockey all the time,
not only NHL players, but also.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Youth hockey at all levels. So he's a true gift
to to our game.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
And and again to your point in eight's he's just brilliant.
And he is so he sees it, you know again,
the way he plays the game, he sees it three
plays ahead. By the way he can express things off
the ice about the game. He could also you know,
draw a picture like like I usually call him Picasso.
Actually it's true. Back in the early days, I said,
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you like Picasso out there, you're doing stuff that it's
impossible for us to see, you know, in advance, you
see it in advance, but your creativity is off the charts.
It's still today. You know, creates space for himself on
the ice boarding better than anyone ever, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Right, And you bring up a great point. I mean,
he knows so much about the game. He's gone. He
talks about going back and watching old games and seeing
how like Quinville would put him with different guys and
why that worked. And just like just studying it, knowing it.
And what he told us, which we said really stood out,
was he wants to be taken on this team USA
team for what the player is now, not who he was,
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but like who he still is. But he does have
that veteran experience which is important as we know, and
to transition to veterans that we know who have been
very successful with their their countries. Of course, is your
other client who's been a bit in the news today,
which he saw Sydney Crosby, who's been pivotal for a
team Canada as we know for so many years, but
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of course especially at these past four Nations tournament. Got
to ask you, we'd be remiss. What prompted you to
talk about him being related to sort of the Tom
Brady sphere.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
I mean, any time you speak about, you know, a
great player like we talk abou Patrick Kane with Sydney,
you know, I mean, especially at a time of this
time of the year when the season's about to start,
there's there's always speculations about certain things. And all I
said is a he's a great player and he's been consistent.
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I mean, now he broke a record last year point
a game for twenty years straight. I mean, yeah, when
you're talking about Wayne Gretzky records going down, it's really special.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
So I mean I say less is more.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
I mean, the season's about to start and hopefully you'll
have a great year and the team will have a
great year, and things are you know, taken in a
certain way at times that you know, when we talk
about a player like that, you know there's a lot
of speculations or it's probably.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Blowing up a little bit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I didn't expect the reaction, but I didn't say anything
other than I compare him to a Tom Brady. You know,
he continues to be better and better with age, and
that's all I really said essentially. So but you know,
you know it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
This Yeah, it's everywhere.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
We we love to you know, see something and hear
something and then we think, hey, wait, Tom Brady was
so successful at the Patriots and then he went to Tampa,
and I think that's what everyone Well, yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
I meant to say, he's just as consistent as a
Tom Brady. I mean it could be could be in
Pittsburg for the next five years for all I know.
He deserves to continue, you know, the player that he is, hopefully,
and I said, like, we like to see a player
like that in the playoffs. And I also said that
if if let's say Pittsburgh in the playoffs, these speculations
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will go away, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
So I was more.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Talking about the quality of the player that he is
and he consistency and what he brings to the table
still today on a day to day basis, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
So, yeah, I love that thought because I was at
Four Nations and the game against Sweden the first game
when he had three assists, and I called it a
Michael Jordan moment really the way he showed up and
basically willed their team to win moving forward throughout the
season is obviously you've known Sid for a long time.
You guys are very close. Is it an open discussion
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with you and him throughout the season as the season
progresses of what what could transpire?
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Like all our players, you know, you touch base with
them on a regular basis, you know, just to touch base.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
To find out the goods and the bads and where
they're at, and you.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Have conversations some of most of them, if not the
ninety percent of them are confidential and with all ice
off ie stuff, so no different than any other different
regular season would sid it's no different in the past
that we were going to continue to.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Talk about things.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
And but again the goal here is hopefully that things
will go well and you know that he'll be you know,
playing in Pittsburgh. Again, I'm not speculating anything other than that.
Like I said, like, we want to make sure as
an agency that we connect with our players and and
that they you know, we're there to support their goals
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and through thick and thins at times, you know, you
got to be there and only when the players got
a you know, a hat trick or a great game.
And there's also a lot of medical files. There's so
much going on during the year. So we on a
regular basis we touch base where player and we re
evaluate where they're at.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
You know, speaking of your clients, you long term extensions.
You've got Dustin Wolf signed and which I thought was
a fantastic deal for both sides. And you know, talk
about your relationship with Dustin Wolf because I know you've
known him for a long time.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
No, in Dustin since he's actually six or seven years old.
I mean, he's a two thousand and one and my
son Brendan was an O one as well, and growing
up in California, we had a good team.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Rob blake was a coach.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
And Nelson Emmer and I were coaching the team. But
at one point we need a goaltending because we used
to go to tournaments and when you fly from California
at to Boston or Detroit or Toronto and you lose
the first two games, you gotta play four instead of
six or seven. And our goaltending was fair. I mean,
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I'm not putting any but we needed someone special and
this kid every time we played San Jose because he
was from San Jose, I mean he was like you know,
with peppered him with forty to fifty shots and gave
up a goal or two.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
So one day I told.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Blakey told Roberts, we need goaltending, and I called the
parents and Michelle and Mike and convinced them to meet.
And not for recruiting him at all, It was to
make her feew we team, our a ten year old
team better. See I was a crazy dad too, And
then I convinced convince the family to actually move to
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the Junior King's program and then a year later brought Jackson,
Leacom and Helliston from Minnesota. So then we had a
good team with the Quebec. We almost won Quebec, but
Wolfe was standing on his head, you know, everywhere, and
we went. And then at sixteen he went to play
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in Western Hockey League. It was Goalie of the Year
sixteen seventeen. Everywhere he went. I mean, now, draft day
was a hard day. He went in the seventh round
and I remember we were pretty much done within the
first two hours. All our clients were selected the top
thirty forty, and Dustin was sitting up there and I
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went to sit with him and his family. In the
fifth round. I thought he was going to go in
fifth or sixth worst case. And then seventh round. I
was texting a lot of GMS and begging teams to
take a look and he was a little too small
ball and invite him to a camp. We'll invite him
to our campus, said I don't want him invited, I
want him drafted. And finally Calgary brad Trade been drafting him,
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I think fifty the last, almost the last pick of
the draft. They we were sitting up there almost touching
the roof and and everyone start you know, crying and
joy and and I was so proud of him. And
got drafted and he told he told it, Brad at
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the table, they says, you won't regret this pick, you know.
And and then he you know, kept playing in the
Western Hockey League and he went to the American League.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Goaldie.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
The year he kept proving everyone, you know, what he is.
And this year was a nomination for Rookie of the Year.
So to see the kind of contract he signed, it's
he earned it. He had a year left on his contract,
but to give him the security now starting next year,
fifty two point five million. He earned it. And what's
the delta? If you wait, you could potentially make a
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little bit more. But doing it now, I think it's
a win win for him and the team.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Well, all those their gms will definitely be upset that
they didn't listen.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
They should listen after they should definitely, I know.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Well, I mean it's amazing hearing you talk about getting
this deal done. You know, you're you have all these clients,
Like I mean, you're talking to us right now and
you're not on your phone, You're not taking calls, Like,
how is a day for you, Like when you have
so many clients and so many big time clients and
you've got to get these deals done. Are you up
just like all the time?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, I mean we have to. You have to balance too,
you know, we have to.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
You know, take care of yourself so to speak, fuel
your your tank the right way and uh and be
ready for all kinds of different challenges. Obviously there's times
during the year where it slows down a bit, a
little bit, but there's always a crisis somewhere, like it's only.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Our big time client.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
People say, well, you know, Pat is busy with this
guy that guide all the superstars. But quite frankly, a
lot of my time the last three weeks has been
trying to find jobs for players that you need. Our
time in our you know, not going to make millions
of dollars, so we make a commitment to them. So
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you want to balance and you want to make sure
that you give the right example to your staff. I mean,
we have what close to thirty people worldwide, and we
take pride in making things getting things done the right way.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
So how did today go? After you know the comments
about sid Well, you.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Know, I read the comments and I you know I
didn't say anything wrong. It's not like you know, obviously,
when you talk about a high profile player like Sid,
things are gonna it's you know, be perceive a cent way.
It's creat it creates, it creates traction. But same time,
I just want to make sure that I didn't say
anything crazy, which I don't think I did. All I
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really said is he's a great player, and then we
want to continue to see him and hopefully in the playoffs.
But the curves that are throwing at us, and as
a priority a lot of times are the medical files.
So I could be on a big file and all
of a sudden we get a call that a player
needs a second opinion, a m c L or.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Shoulder or any time.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
Those are things that will take will take priority on anything.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
So and you get to navigate that.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
And players understand if you say I got to work
on this, I'm talking to doctor about this or that,
can I get back to you as long as you're
in touch.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
And you you don't.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
You know, you got to treat people the right way,
and you got to get back to people. And then
sometimes it goes past the eight to five, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
No hours speaking before we let you go back. Speaking
of high profile clients, you have three high profile brothers
and the Hughes brothers, and you know, Jack talked about,
you know, playing with Quenn and his brothers, and you know,
talk about the possibility of that and navigating that, and
then's however, however long that could transport?
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Yeah, people say, you know, they ask the questions to
either Quinn or Jack or Luke, and all I say
in this it's also again again I say the same thing,
it's a possibility. When I say it's a possibility, hopefully
they'll play another fifteen years, and who knows, it could
happen in six years, It could happen in later, who knows.
I mean, those are possibilities and that's what makes it
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fun in our game to imagine. And I just once
said to a writer in Montreal's it's okay to dream
also about Yeah, because they asked me about a player,
could he come? You think he could come and play
for us? So well, you know, can't stop me from dreaming.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Now.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
The possibilities are there. Never know if Wayne gretz Ski
ever got traded anyone, can you know?
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Sucks?
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah, keeps the door open for a lot of different things.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yeah, exactly, and then.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
I guess just for you personally, like who's who's someone
or something that inspires you to keep going every day
when you're like dealing with all these different things.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
Well, I mean it's a good que questions. I mean,
I like to I look up to people that have
been consistent throughout their lives in different you know form platform.
It doesn't have to be hockey. I like to read
about other you know, leaders in different feels and their
stories and you know, basically try to you know, because
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I'm only happy when I feel that I'm you know, productive.
That's kind of my DNA, so to speak. It's hard
for me to be uh, I mean standing still a
little bit, but I'm kind of unhappy when I'm not productive.
It's just my fuel, I guess, and that's what keeps
me going.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, well you should be pretty happy because you're very productive.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
I feel good today.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
See what happens tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Well, we're really appreciative of your time.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Thank you for inviting me. Appreciate it, thank you, thank
you so much.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
On energy line, we're the we're the guys that you
need to give attention to, the third liners.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
I don't have the big contracts.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
I love the energy line that. I love that. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
All right. That was Pat personal agent for so many
illustrious NHL players. And he's from Cia. He obviously has
just a wealth of experienced, wealth of knowledge, and but
he seemed like a really down to earth guy, and
it seemed like he didn't want people to run away
with the Sydney Crosby comment too much, like don't read
into the whole tom Brady going to Tampa and this
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and that. He just meant he's the goat. He is
the greatest, you know, and we hope that it works
out in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
I mean I do too. I think everyone wants to
see Sid do well. I want to see Pittsburgh do well.
And I think he was really trying to stress, Like
you said, he was trying to stress the fact that
he is comparing him to Tom Brady, which it's totally valid.
He is Tom Brady of hockey. Pat is great guy.
You know. I got to know him a little bit more.
He never had presented me, but I got to know
him during the COVID time and I was trying to
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get ice, trying to skate and I was actually skating
with his son, Brendan and a bunch of other guys,
and he was putting together ice for us. So definitely
grateful for him for that. But Pat, you know, it
was great getting to hear him and he hear his
view and then hear his opinion from Sid and Kane's
point of view, right, and how he represents him and
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how he has to you know, check in on him,
talk through them throughout the whole season and make sure
that they're on the same page. It was it was
very interesting for me to listen to that as well.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
I'll say, like, okay, so you know, as I mentioned
to him, like we've had agents, have been around the
agent business. I've worked with a lot of lawyers this year.
I sometimes then double what I think about it again,
like they're so good at talking to people, right, Sometimes
I'm like, wait, is he just like really good at
(49:00):
his job that I'm like, I believe everything you say
right now? You know, like you're just because I mean,
he's the biggest agent in the NHL and he's getting
monster deals for guys. You have to have incredible people
skills and be able to read people and then be
able to respond and it's like chess that then I
just think it's so fascinating, like you know, it's it's
(49:21):
it's mind games at different points.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, and he's been doing this for so long, right,
Like he's a veteran at his job as well. And
when you have guys like he does, like Sydney Crosby
and these guys, you know they it makes you better too.
I'm sure it makes him better at the end of.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
The day, I surely wouldn't be a good NHL GM.
I'm like, all right, Okay, whatever you want, Pappers, any
deal you want, because he does. He is an awesome guy.
And I've also, you know, want to put it out there,
I've played hockey with him too, Nate, Okay, so yeah,
we're both We're both pretty good out there. I joke,
just joking for my NHL are obviously me just holding
(50:00):
the microphone here right now. And we want to thank
you guys for listening to this episode of Energy Line
with Natan JSB from Vegas.
Speaker 5 (50:08):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
It's been a wild ride here and this has been
a production of the NHL and iHeart podcast. We want
to thank Patrick Kane and Patrick Soft for joining us
and thanks to our producers Matt Heva and Bob Bender.
We'll be back with you next week for more interviews
from the Player Media Tour. Thanks so much for listening.
(50:42):
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