May 2, 2025 • 49 mins
Energy Line with Nate Thompson and Julie Stewart-Binks open up reacting to the Maple Leafs taking down the Senators to advance to the next round. They also break down what happened to the Kings, losing four straight games to the Oilers. Longtime NHL winger and three-time Stanley Cup champion Pat Maroon then joins Nate and JSB as he discusses retiring from the NHL. Maroon talks about what he will now do in retirement, his favorite career memories, his former teams currently in the playoffs, going inside a fighter’s mind on the ice and who he believes wins the Cup this year. Nate and JSB close the show reacting to the Rangers hiring Mike Sullivan and look ahead to the second round of the playoffs.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Energy Line is a production of the NHL and I
Heart podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Welcome back to the Energy Line with Naytan JSB. I'm
Julie Sharpinks.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
He's former NHLR Nate Thompson, and we have lots.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Of series endings to react to.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
We've got a game seven a head, and we've got
a terrific guest in a few minutes, as the newly
retired at Pat Maroon will join us. Energy Line is
a production of the NHL and I Heart Podcasts and Nate.
As I mentioned, it's death taxes and the Toronto Maple
Leafs beating the Ottawa Senators. The only memory I have
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as a child was Toronto beating Ottawa, and I thought
that memory was going to change this week, but no,
it stayed intact, even.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Though it was a roller coaster that I did now
want to be on.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
What did you think about the fact that I don't
know you're an outsider of the Battle of Ontario, But
but what did you take away from that?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well, I told you, Julie, I said that. I said
they were going to close it out in game six.
I just had this feeling about the Leafs they play.
There's a different feeling in that team. This year, they're
a lot more calm, they're a lot more composed, and
you saw it in that game last night, like the
way that Ottawa ties it up in you know what
was it less than seven minutes left in the third period,
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and then no problem, they stay calm, they still play
and then that I mean, I gotta give more credit
to Max Stolemy that play he makes ye on the
net and the battle he wins the puck from two guys,
gets a puck from behind the net and it makes
a great play to Max Petretti in a slot and
they he ends up scoring the game winning goal. And
then on top of that, Willie Styles Kneelander last night
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was amazing, Like just I mean, there were so many
different guys I think that just stepped up and just
in key moments of the game. But for Willy to
come out with two goals and an assist, and you
know guys Austin Matthews was you know with that big
power play goal. I mean, just so many guys contributed
at the right time and that's what the Leafs needed
to be able to close the series out. And it
was great. It was great for LEAs fans. Like yourself, Julie,
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I know how.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Many I wouldn't call myself that, but like you know.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I know how much of a relief it was for
all Leaves fans seeing that and them closing out the series.
But at the same time, I got to give Ottawa
credit they gave. They gave Toronto a lot to handle,
and I would put the whole league out on notice.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
For Ottawa next year.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, I mean, I gotta tell you, I was shocked
how good Ottawa was, especially in the Game five.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I went to go watch that game out at the
Canuck Bar in New York City, and I forgot nate
that the Knuck would obviously have what what a lot
of Auto Senators fans too, because it's a Canadian bar,
which was a nightmare, but they were so kind wild
First of all, they like bought us all drinks after
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the Leafs lost, because I felt like just such a
Canadian move to do in that moment, even though Sens
fans usually hate Leaves fans so much, which is Canada
is all just like really come together, especially this past week.
But I would say having seen them just have absolutely
zero points, zero percent urgency in Game five, and then.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I was like I'm done. I was like nope. I
was like I know how this ends.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's not gonna be good, and it's gonna be it's
gonna be so bad this team might just have to
like shut down forever. Like I was just like, it's
gonna go it's going away. But then, like every every year,
the hope was reignited. And then it was patch O
Hulahan that scores the game winner right there.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Did not even expect him to be in the lineup.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
And we're talking about Max Patretti scores the game winner.
And then of course, as you mentioned, Willie Styles. But
a lot of the bottom six guys, the fourth line
is incredible. Bottom six. I feel like we need a
new line. We need a new term.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Bottom six. In Sineway, it's like the like the people
that suck.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But can we can we talk about Willie Nilander really quick?
What happened and what Elliet? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah yeah, Willie Nilander almost didn't play in this game.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, So for people listening, they put him down as
Alex Kneelander, his brother, and the rules state if so
the officials can go and tell the coaches and say, okay, listen,
we'll give you a moment to change this. I know
you screwed it up, but if the officials don't take
this in and don't see that and don't correct it,
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Willie can't play. So luckily they went to the coaches,
they corrected it and Willy was able to play. But
can you imagine though, if Willy doesn't play and that
and that's the reason why, because if it's prices averted.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, and like I don't know who puts the like
because it basically because it populated because the Black Aces
Alex is now with them. But like if you put
in like Kneelander, like Alex populates first, it's just like
an error on the computer. But like, and Craig Bruby
didn't like throw anyone under the bus after that. But
I was listening to Kyle Bagoscas from Sportsnet describe how
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I guess like in the pack Quinn era, Peter Laviolette
knew that there was this exact issue had happened, and
he waited until and I forget who the player was,
I'm Rob Reichel. Maybe it was like waited until the
puck drop, so then the game was on to bring
it up, because then that guy had to be removed
from the game.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Which is I love that from Peter Lavolett.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I think that's like such such a shit move to do,
but it's a great move. You got to use everything
you can in playoffs. I'll end on the fact that, uh,
I think the Leafs may, we may. I don't want
to sit I'm a little concerned about the Stolars situation
going forward. I know that there is another person named
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Joseph Wall, but he's been a little bit under the
weather and he hasn't been playing, and I don't like
to see a Joseph Wall go against the Florida Panthers team.
But I'm going to say he's gonna We're gonna see
some wool coming up. Maybe in the first ten minutes
of the first game, but other than that, the Leafs
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to me looked way better during the season and like
the first three games, and then went and really really
fucked with my mind and thought, oh, those future bets
that I put on earlier this year for them to
win the Cup aren't looking too hot right now because
I don't know if I trust them to go all
the way. And then I'm going to segue this into
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a team that looked like they were going to be
able to just eliminate another team, and that was the
La Kings just flip flop in the scripts in the
Edmonton Oilers winning four in a row. You were at
the first two games, the Harmonica Ladies were the story.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
They weren't there. They should have been.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, I mean, this one's tough, and it was. I
feel I feel for a lot of guys in the
Kings because this, I mean, they had this series, I thought,
in control, total control of the series. You're up to nothing.
Even in was it Game four, They're up three to one.
You know, they lose. They lose that game, and it
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seemed like the wheels fell off after that. It was,
you know, Edmonton just took over the series and you
almost saw a tale of two different teams with Edmonton too.
It was like they weren't a playoff team to start
the series, and all of a sudden they just flipped
it and it was, you know, they were too much
for the Kings to handle it. And in the latter
part of the series and and last night in that game,
you know, I think, you know, the Kings just it
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seemed like they just didn't have enough right. It was
like they were pushing, pushing, they just couldn't get over
the humping, and the Oilers kept, you.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Know, their power play was so good.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
They had you know, they've had different guys step up,
bottom six guys step up that aren't Connor and Leon
and then Calvin Pickard, I mean, Calvin Pickard was unblievable
last night, unbelievable, And like I said, the Kings just
they couldn't get over the hump. They couldn't, you know,
force that game seven and unfortunately, I mean, it's it's tough.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I don't know what the King.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I don't know where the Kings go from here, because
when you lose to a team four years in a
row in the first round, it's it's tough. And there's
gonna be a lot of reflection in the King's organization
right now.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, that's like they're the new The Oilers are the
new Bruins like to the Kings as like Toronto had,
like they the Oilers own Kings, which feels weird because
the Kings, you know, by nature, would own the Oilers.
But yeah, it is a tough one and especially for
a lot of those guys on that team that we
have highlighted this year. It sucks when you have a
great regular season too, and you have this great regular
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season like home record, and then it's just.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Like Kapulli like gone in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
However, you know, I don't know how you look at it,
but it's like, Okay Dowdy and guys like Coopatar, like
they're obviously nearing the end, closer to the end of
their career than the beginning of their career. So you
just wonder how much more they go for. But now
we know that Edmonton will feel the Vegas Golden Knights, who, like,
in my sleep somewhere along the line, beat Minnesota. I guess, like,
(09:11):
I just missed that end of the series, and it
is my birthday week, I will say, so, I'm giving
myself a bit of a pass. It's been birthday week,
So yeah, I missed that last game, but I did
see that Edmonton was facing Vegas. I was like, I
guess that they beat Minnesota in that series. But now
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we know, I'm going to segue into something else. Right now,
we still have two series left to be decided. Because
the Central Division has a bit of a different time
zone than everyone else, and that's taking things a little
slower in the Prairies.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And we've got.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Saint Louis and Winnipeg, and we've got a Game seven
in Colorado and Dallas. And that game last night was
just snip snap, snipsnap. It was all over the place,
and it's great. And I think, like, I mean, Pete
de boor is eight and no in game sevens. This
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is his Oh, this is his like you know, safe space.
So I don't know, what do you can you imagine
if Colorado was eliminated in the first round.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It's honestly for both teams, I don't know what to think.
I was like, well, what happens with Dallas is what
happened in Colorado loses. It's like it's it's two Titans
that are going to be one of them is going
to be eliminated. And you know, you you mentioned Pete
de Borr And it's funny. In his interview and his
presser last night, he talked about, I really wish we
could have closed it out game six, but I do
love Game sevens at home, and it's just you know,
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he knows his record obviously, But you know Colorado, I
mean they're you know, they're a Cup winning team.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
They have guys have won Cups.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
They obviously have elite, elite players, and it's funny, right,
the game winning goal was the biggest flute goal that
I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Oh my god, Nate.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
McKinnon's goal, And he talked about it after on TNT
and in his interview he said, you know, that's maybe
one of the most important goals I've scored and maybe
one of the most weirdest goals I've ever scored. But
I mean, he did say though, and I agree with him.
You know, I thought Colorado was in control.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Of that game.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You know, they were taking it to Dallas most of
the game, and he said, you know, the hockey gods,
you know, rewarded us stay with that goal. So, I mean,
Game seven is going to be must watched. This whole
series has been must watch. I mean, just the star
power and how physical and fast and it's just it's
back and forth hockey. It's amazing to watch. So Game
seven is going to be electric. And I don't know,
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we'll see what happens. I really, I really don't know,
because it's it's tough for me to imagine Dallas or
Colorado being out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, and that was always going to be the problem
with them facing each other in that first round. Anyways,
it was like one of these teams is going to
have to go home, and you're like, gosh, just it
doesn't feel right. But yeah, with the goal going off
of Blackwell and in, it's like that, you know, the
hockey god stuff is so I feel so real, like
with Toronto playing Ottawa in that game five and that
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puck did not go in at the beginning of the
game where it went like behind hit the went behind
Stolar's and like hit the post and then like Morgan Riley.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Helped get it out after like Stolars.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Could didn't even put his like mid on it properly.
I was like, I think I tweeted. I was like,
that's the ghost of Pat Quinn like helping them out
because that they should have been down one nothing in
like the first few minutes of that game. And there's
always those weird moments that happened in the playoffs and
we're like, oh, puck luck, blah blah blah ah this stuff,
but like that's the reality of NHL playoffs, Like what's
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the do you do you have any moments that you
remember vividly playing where you're like that should have gone in,
or that did go in and shouldn't have.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Oh yeah, clear as day Game seven, I was playing
for Tampa against Boston. I tipped the puck zero zero,
probably about seven minutes left in the game. I tipped
the puck and it just barely goes wide, hits like
the side of the post on Tim Thomas, and shift
later they come down.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I wasn't on the ice. I don't know why I
mentioned that, but.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I wasn't on the ice. I had a bad change.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah, I know, I had my guy. I'm just kidding,
but yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
And then they ended up scoring like two minutes later
and ended up winning the game and going on to
win the Stanley Cups. So those moments, you definitely, you know,
they highlight your head and you you remember, like you know,
a game of inches. You know, maybe you know should
have would have cult up, but maybe it's the game winner.
We're going to the Stanley Cup finals and who knows.
But you know, those those little moments in the game
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where they's just inches where you don't know it can
it can change a whole series or change the whole
whole game.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And speaking of playoffs. We have a guy who knows
them really well because he has won three Stanley Cups.
We had someone on earlier this week who won six
Stanley Cups. Now three Stanley Cups. That means nine Stanley
Cups this week alone. This person is none other than
Nate's former teammate, the one and only Pat Maroon.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
He's with us on the other side of this break.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
We're so thrilled now to be joined by a three
time Stanley Cup champion, former teammate of Nate Thompson, someone
I also covered with the Anaheim Ducks. We always love
to bring up our Anaheim Ducks connection here on the show,
and that is none other than Pat Maroom. Pat, thank
you so much for taking the time to talk with us.
We know that you just announced your retirement, and like,
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what's it, what's it been like since you've made a
public to the entire world.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
First and foremost, thanks for having me, guys. I appreciate it.
It's always nice to see familiar faces, especially.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
Now when you're out of the game.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
You're gonna miss uh, miss you know, the camaraderie, miss
the guys and seeing everyone's face every day, So it's
always good, but it's been great. Honestly for me, it's
been it's been fun just to realize, you know, what
I accomplished in my career and I have no regrets
of you know, hanging the skates up. It was a long,
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you know career for myself and just be part of
some winning hockey teams and it has been really special
in some good organizations. So it's been a world win.
A little bit with the newborn involved, but other than that,
it's it's been great. You know, fresh dad and uh,
you know, have another girl, So I'm starting all over again,
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but I think it's our household will be it'll be
busy during retirement, so it'll be fun to you know,
be hands on again and you know, watch my daughter
grow up with another sister and obviously my sixteen year
old boy. But it'll be fun. So retirement's been great
so far. But I can't complain right now. Everything's trending
the right way.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Congratulations Patty and Francesca awesome after retiring. You know, for me,
it's it's I think sometimes it still sinks in. Has
it has it sunk in yet?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
For you? And what's next for Patty Maroon?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Yeah, I mean, I think watching the first playoff game,
you know, watching that, that's kind of what it kind
of hit me.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I had the goosebumps again.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
And you know, you play the game to play in
the NHL, and then you play the game to you know,
to get to where you want to have a long career, right,
you want to get there and stay for a.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Long period of time. And then after that.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
The icing on cake is to win, you know, and
playing the playoffs and win the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
And I think I'll miss.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
The playoffs a lot, but I think for me, just
to watch it and watch my friends that are still
playing the game and the playoffs has been really fun.
So I can't complain on that side of it. But
I think that's when it kind of hit me. It
was just sitting there and you know, watching those guys walk.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Out that tunnel.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
And I think the last two appearances I've been doing
with the Blues in Tampa too, I think watching those
guys it gives me, you know, gives me chills, watching
those guys and coming out the tunnel again, knowing that
you can't do that again, but just to be a
part of it, and you know, watch my buddies, like
I said, walking out that tunnel and go play right
and chasing their goal. So but other than that, media,
I guess. I guess I'll try to get back in
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the media if I really like it, see if I
take a liking to and if I don't, then we'll
move on.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
See see what's next for me?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Is that pat like a thing for guys, And I
know with Nate too, we've kind of talked about it,
but you retire and then it's like, Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I'll try media.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I'll try it on like it's a pair of jeans,
like I'll see if they fit, and I like it
in a way, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I think for me it's I love I love watching hockey.
I love breaking down the game with my buddies. And
you know, I always call Ryan mcdonnn after every game
and during the regular season, so it's fun. I always
like catch up with everyone and see their insights and
different mindsets they have after games and where their heads at.
So I think I've always wanted to do it. Don't
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know how I'll do, but you know, you got to
find out and try it right, like you said, you know,
it's like putting on a new pair of jeens. See
if you like it.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
They don't, you just take them off and then just
move on, right. So for me, yeah, I just.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I'm gonna try it, you know, pick up the microphone,
see if I like it. And you know, they'll tell
you if you're good or not. They'll keep you not
if you're not. So we'll find out.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
We'll find out here shortly during the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, you'll be fine, Patty. I mean, just be yourself
and we all love you guys.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yourself.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So uh, you know, you were just recently in Saint
Louis and in Tampa kind of pumping up the crowd
a couple of beer chugs. Maybe what did what did
that mean to you? Being back in both those places
that you won cups?
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I meant a lot. I think just seeing familiar faces,
especially in Saint Louis, you know, seeing everyone and seeing
my old teammates and you know, seeing the wives and
all their kids, and it.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Just means so much. And just have both organizations.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Take me back on and come back and you know,
just be a little piece of you know, their puzzle,
on their autimate goal. Right, So really fun to be
a part of it, especially putting that jersey back on
one last.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Time and then taking it back off.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
It always means something when you put that jersey back on,
no matter you know what jersey.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
You're put on.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
But especially with those two teams that you know, we've
had success with and one together with, so I think
that that was always special. But it was great, you know,
especially in Tampa, you know, seeing all the workers because
you know Nate, you walk through the right through the compound,
right to the locker room, and you see all the workers,
the janitors, you know, people that do everything outside of
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the organization and Colvin. You see all these familiar faces
that really just right up your day every single day.
And I think that was really cool to see everyone
and go back and do that walk one more time
and you know, give people hugs, and you know all
the cops that are around you, and and then obviously
my teammates and you know, the staff and coaching and
all the guys like the Breezers and the Belocks of
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the world.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
So it was nice to see everyone and be a
part of it again.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, that's great that you had that experience. And you
mentioned that you've worn you know a lot of jerseys.
You've had a lot of different eras. Let's just say
Nate has too, but you've had like the eras tour
of Pat Maroon. If we could go back to one
of those eras, you could pick and that would be
where you got to go?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Where and when would it be?
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I would always say Anam because that was like the
first team that gave me a shot, and we had
those guys that played in the eighties and the nineties,
so that was really fun to be a part of.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
I think I would go back into that.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Air, back to Newport Beach where yeah, back to Newport
Dayton Patty were hanging out, having a good time with
the Peninsula.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I gotta shift, I gotta shift.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Honestly.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Let's let's let's get into a couple of your former teams,
like Saint Louis is playing Winnipeg. What what do you
see from your former team in Saint Louis? And then
I want to do a second part too, is you
know also Tampa and Florida and what happened there with Tampa?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Yeah, I mean Saint Louis is good. I think obviously
we all know what hallibuck. They pulled him. He got pulled,
you know, game stream for in Saint Louis, you know,
they know for us. You know, when we're watching the game,
it says, how does Winnipeg get out of the get
out of the first round? Who's going to take him
to the next level, And it's it's supposed to be hellibuck,
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It's supposed to be your best player. He was their
best player all year. You know, he struggled, but I
think last game he's really picked it up. So I
think Jordan Bennington has been a rock star back there.
It seems to me he finds another gear, another level.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
He's so he's so.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Calm and collective in that net, and he's got a
lot of swagger that you know when he when he
starts to feel it. He's one of the best goalies.
You know, in the playoffs. You know he can he
can really take a team far. And obviously we all
know in twenty nineteen, but I think the Blues are
just tenacious. It seems like they're they don't give up
on pucks, they back pressure. There's no time in space
right now, and I love their for check and I
(21:43):
really enjoy their fourth line right now with Porchenko, Walker
and Fasta. I think they've done a really good job
of shutting down the top line. I know it will
be a better matchup for them tonight, maybe Connor because
I didn't get to watch the other game, so I'm
assuming Connor and Shift got away from them at home.
But I think they'll be on those guys tonight. It's
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going to be a different story with Shike's out tonight.
They got to take advantage of this now, right and
it's an opportunity for them to go tie the series
up and go back and try to win one in Winnipeg.
But it all comes down to goalie. I think if
both goalies stay.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
On their head, then you know, never know.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I think it's it's it's a serious that Beneking can
steal from Hullibuck and.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
We'll see what happens tonight. So I'm really looking forward
to that. But I think with Tampa, man I they
just ran in too many injuries. Vast he wasn't Vast.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
It felt like he wasn't making the routine saves that
he usually makes. And that's okay, though, you know, he's
he's arguably the best goal He's up for the Vesna
again this year.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
He's arguably the best goal in the league, him and
Bob are and they go neck and neck.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
And obviously Hallibuck, but those are the two guys that
compete in the playoffs and take their teams to the
next level, and you know when they need you the most.
You know, obviously we can talk about coach. What one
goal in that series, the power play wasn't wasn't the best.
I think they really missed uh It Quicks. How do
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you say his name? The guy that got hurt Borschrand,
he got hurt, I mean, and he's on the right
side and that helps him tremendously, you know, having a
right shot that has a good one timer. It just
seems like they're missing him on.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
That power play. Flora's is too deep. Man. They play you, they.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Play stingy hockey, boring hockey. It's a hard rim retrieval
above the park, four check back, good gaps, three quarter ice,
put it back in. I mean, it's just it's exhausting hockey.
And that's playoff hockey right there.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So John Cooper is someone you know, well, won two
Cups with him, and we've seen him as being like
a guy like you know, he's he's great quotes. He
seems like he's always an interesting guy, but like and
always very much in control.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
But you've played with him, you know what he's like.
Maybe what's something.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
That would surprise us about him as either a person
or a coach that we would never know unless we
were someone like you played with him.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Well, I mean, there's no surprises, I think with Coop.
When he's in the media, you see what he's like,
you see who he is, you see what kind of
person he is. The one thing where Coop is so
good at and which I really like, he knows how
to read a room and he knows how to understand
to give their players their space, no one to.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Come in, no one not to come in, and know
what the guys need. I think he's just he's so
good at that.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
He's one of the only coaches that know they just
have such a good feel that no one will ever
see or you guys will ever witness. We all know
he's a great talker. You guys get to see that,
you know, you get to see him in the media
and how he approaches you know, the game, and the
way he can communicate, and it's just unique. And I
think he's got a unique way of coaching.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
I really like Coop a lot. I've had him.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I had him when I was sixteen that I got
the opportunity to play with him for four years. But
I think the biggest thing is one to he has
a really good feel of reading the room and sensing
like what the guys need. Maybe I'm talking too much
so I'm not coming in. Maybe you don't need video.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
So I think he has a sense of that of
like where we're at. And he's always been amazing at that.
So that's something that's really drawn to me that a
lot of coaches don't have.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I echoed that a lot with Coop too, Patty. I
mean I had him, and I think is a swagger
and his confidence, you know, and I think, yeah, it's
infectious throughout his team. And my question is is besides Coop,
obviously you had him in junior, what other coaches have been,
you know, influential in your career, maybe in the NHL
or even before that when you were younger.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Was a huge impact on my career. Kelly Chase was
obviously a big influence in my career. Never coached me,
always had my back. You old my team and the
Bandits at the time when I was playing with Koop
and But I think the guy that was like the
most influence on my career is Trey Jannie. Thank god
he got hired in the minors when I got trade
Anheim and Syracuse. He was the type of guy that
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just he had belief in me all the time. He
never he never gave up with me. He believed in
me and knew what kind of player was, knew what
I brought. But I think the most important thing is
you know when a coach pulls you aside and says, hey, man,
you have to start fighting. I know you don't want
to hear those words, but I think that's going to
prolong your career. That's going to get you to the
next level. So how can we get to get to
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the next level. He's like, you're so intangible to teams
that you can play on the fourth line, play tough,
and you know you can get moved up on the
first line and playing with the top guys. So you
have so many intangibles to like work with. He's like,
if you start fighting, show toughness, Bob Murray and Anaheim
will take a liking to that. Obviously, Randy Carr that
I was there my first year. I played two games
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under him and then the lockout happened, and then that's
what I kind of made it with you guys, Nate,
and yeah, I just started fighting. He believed in me
and always had my back on call ups. You know,
he's been really he had a really big impact on
my career and it was cool to be a part
of him when he was in our team too. Are
d coach in the NHL too, so we kind of
got called up together. So always great to talk to Yons.
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I love and I know he's in LA right now.
Tough lot, No, he's in No Detroit. He's just been really,
really big impact on my career.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I love to hear that.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Trent Yanni is certainly a stand up guy. And you
talk about fighting, and I remember, Pat, you just reminded
me of something when you guys would play La as
as Anaheim, and you know, those games were always so
feisty and just like it turned up. I think you
told me like you remembers like you couldn't sleep, like
in your pregame nap before because you were like, I know,
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I'm going to have to probably drop the mits, Like
there's just so much energy amped up for this and
this is kind of like my role when you look
at like fighters and or guys that like are kind
of expected to grease the wheels out there, like a
Tom Wilson. Can you take us inside what like it's
like before a game or during a game, especially in
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the playoff, of what is going through your mind and
your body when you know that you're probably going to
have to either lay a big hit or drop the
mits or do something physical to help your team in
a huge moment.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Yeah, it's tough, you know. I think at a younger
age it was harder because I think knowingly that I
was like kind of fresh meat out there, like and
I was just like going out there.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
I was fighting early.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
On and sometimes going in the games, I was walking
to the game or getting coffee then walking to the bus,
and I was nervous as hell getting on that bus
knowing that, like shit, I might have to do.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Something tonight and I don't know if I want to
do it.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
And because you go into the game and you see
who they have and you're like Jesus Christ, and I'm
not tough by any means, but I think my end.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Goal was just to show up and just be there.
But like you said, Julie, it's hard.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
You know, like like if Tom Wilson's in the game,
like you have to keep an eye on that guy
because like he can hit the hurt and he can
you know, he catches guys with their head down. And
you find players that you're gonna play against, like a
Jordan Tutu is always.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
A guy on my mind. Every time I play against him,
I'm like, what is this guy gonna do?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Right?
Speaker 5 (29:12):
It's obviously it's hard, but I think at the end
of the day, you have to tell yourself, hey, you're
in the NHL.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Don't be scared. It's all right. It's all right to
have a little nerves.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
But as long as you show up throw a big hit,
you know someone's gonna come after you. You know, if
someone throws a big hit on your teammates, you're gonna
have to do something. The hardest part was, you know,
if you start the game or your first shift and
it's you go up to the face off dot and
you look to your left and it's a tough guy
and you're like, well, fuck, this is my first shift.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
This so I'm kind of in one here.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
But it's just funny though, because like my first ever
full time I.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Was in Minnesota. It was in the Ozone.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
We line up and it's Clayton Stoner to my left,
Kannafkat center, Ice, and Mike Rupped on the inside, and
They're all just asking me to fight, and I'm like
as scared as hell, I'm just taking Kanofka, like you know,
like screw these guys, Like these guys are mutants.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Rubber and stoner. But yeah, I mean those those are
the times.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
But if that doesn't happen, then I don't think I
have a fourteen year career in the NHL.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
When we talk about you and we talked to other
people about you and your career and having seen you
from the beginning, which was like not the beginning, but
like say a decade ago.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Gosh, I always loved dating myself on this pot. I'm
like a.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Decade ago covered you guys with the ducks, And if
I said to myself, oh, in ten years time, Pat
mrun will have three Stanley Cups.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Nate will have zero, but like sorry, so I got
zero too.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Pat will have three Stanley Cups and his career will
almost be like has acted as a real inspiration for
a lot of people like as in finding a way
to succeed.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
What does it feel like to have.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Had this kind of impact and for your career to
have flourished as an has and it's it's now become
like such a rallying point and an inspiration for like
anyone who's trying to make it.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
It's for sure pinch me moment smiling and thinking about
my career and laughing throughout my career. But There'll be
times when I'm just walking around in the house and
just picking things up and I'll just start giggling to myself, saying,
like I just played in NHL for fourteen years, So
it's just like pinch me moment of like, you know,
how I got through that adversity that came with it.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
But I never really I.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Just always put my head down on work and just
try to do the best I can to be a great,
great teammate to everyone and be nice to everyone and
just trying to be there and whatever it took for
me to just to stay at that level. I think
that's the hardest part for me, is how do you stay?
And I didn't know at the time. You know, I
played two games and I sat there for a little bit,
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and I went through another summer of like, all right,
maybe I just played those two games, it's over. And
then you know, I got my chance, and I was just,
you know, how do I stay? And I was like
watching Nate and the Perry and gets Off and Timu
and Saku and Kygliano and you know these guys friend
from Poshman, Brian Allen. You know, you see all these
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guys and you're like, I want to hang out with
these guys.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
How do I just stay?
Speaker 5 (32:18):
You know, and you just you just listen, you watch,
and you're kind of a teacher to yourself watching these
other guys do things.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
So I think for me, though, if I leave the
game winning three.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Stanley Cups, who would have dripped especially well with my hometown.
I just try to be me every day. If I
wasn't me, I don't think I would succeed, you know.
And I just had to be me every single day,
And hopefully that had an impact on the younger generation
or the guys that are watching me that you know,
you don't have to be an All Star to play
ten years, five years in this league, and you can
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adapt on the fly. You can adapt a certain situation
certain rules and are you willing to do it? So
hopefully someone else has to pinch me, you know, kind
of moments like I did throughout my career and a
special moment, and like I said, the Stanley Cups are
just icing, But I think the friendships you go leaving
the game are the most important thing. So a lot
of people that have impacted my career and I've learned
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learned so much from and that taught me everything and
I brought that to someone else. So hopefully the next
generation of kids kind of feel the same way I felt,
and hopefully I left an impact on this.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Game that they can have to leave in the game.
So that's all I wanted to do. And hopefully, like
I said, it touched people. So if not, then it didn't.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
But you know, I'm just I'm just happy to play
the game I love for so many years.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, Patty, And I mean even for me, You've been
an inspiration for me just watching you know, just the
importance of guys like you and how you play and
in the playoffs. You see guys in the playoffs right now,
the guys that are blue guys, the guys that are
the energy guys of you know, the bottom six, how
important they are. H And as we're in the playoffs,
you know what teams or who you looking at, Like,
who do you think is UH is going to win
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this year?
Speaker 6 (34:03):
I really like Dallas.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
I know they're banged up right now, but I you know,
I think that Dallas Colorado series has been really fun
to watch. It's been back and forth. You know that
game last night, Colorado goes up to nothing, then Dallas
comes back and takes the lead, and then you know,
Colorado comes back. There's so much high power, so many
skilled players, guys that can really just change the game
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in a second. But I really like a team out
of the West this year. But I'm pulling for Dallas
because I like the Jamie Benz of the world, the
guys that play hard and guys that deserve that been
in the league for so long.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
But it's gonna be hard to be Florida, it really is.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
I mean, I think you got to beat the best
to be the best, and I think that's you know,
the way Florida plays and the additions they added this year,
it's going to be tough for teams to take them down.
But you know, hopefully Toronto it just seems you know,
with Bruby now coaching, it seems like they're playing with
a little more nasty, a little more you know, bite
to their game, a little more jammed. So hopefully you
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know they can keep that because you know, that Florida
team just they're in your face and it just seems
like they don't give you any breathing room. So hopefully
those top guys can take over. But hopefully to see
Dallas and Florida, that would be fun series to watch
two big, heavy teams go at it.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, definitely, Pete de Boy would want to be in
that as well, as we've highlighted the fact that he
hasn't been there yet. But I think you got some
great predictions there, and Pat, you know better than anyone
what it's like to get all the way there, the
war of attrition every single round, having to just like
you know, lay it on the line, but still be
able to mentally and physically be in it till the
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very end. So we appreciate you for being here to
the very end. It is such a pleasure to have
you on and congratulations on a fantastic career on and
off the ice, and we can't wait to see what
you do next, and we think, I definitely think you've
got to pick up the microphone. You've got a lot
of good stories, you got a lot of personality character,
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and that is exactly what the league needs. But whatever
you decide to do, we know be successful in it.
So thanks again for joining us here.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Nice guys, I appreciate it, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
All right, welcome back to Energy Line with the JSB.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
And some big news coming out here on Friday is
that the New York Rangers have hired Mike Sullivan as
their next head coach. Huge coup, I mean, being able
to get Sully to.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Be their new head coach.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
They must have just I'm sure the numbers may be
out there, maybe not, but guys going right to the bank,
because you know that the Rangers definitely wanted Mike Sullivan,
and then we know a lot of teams wanted Mike Sullivan.
And now the Rangers like actually kind of maybe are
much better than they were earlier this week.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, I mean we talked about this before, and I
feel like the writing was on the wall and Mike
Sullivan being the head coach of the Rangers, and I
think from also, you know you here Mike Sullivan and
Chris Jury had a really good relationship with you know,
the four Nations USA Hockey stuff like that, you know,
being able to plan things together. And I think now
you know that Mike Sullivan is gonna be on the
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same page as Chris Jurry. There's not going to be
any disconnect. And that's that's a good start for the
Rangers going into next season. You know, Mike Sullivan's a
detailed guy. You know, his resume speaks for herself what
he's done. So the Rangers are in a much better
spot now having Mike Sullivan.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, and I'm curious how that now affects maybe some
of the player contracts or players that might have thought
I'm out of this train wreck of an organization now
that I Well, Mike Sullivan is a really good coach,
and like he's been on this pod and he's like
just like you know, he's as you said, his resume
speaks for itself, and he's he's a winner minus against Canada,
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but like he's a winner, and he's Stanley cupsts so
and if he's if he's you know, good with Drury,
that's like that's he right then.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well, and I think too. I think the Rangers this
season was a bit of an anomaly. I do think
that Chris Jerry's gonna make tweaks. You know, Mike Sullivan
be the first the first place, or the first thing
in order to hire a new coach. But I think
that he's going to retool this team to get obviously
to be a contender again for next season. They already
have so much talent and so much skill, and you know,
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Igor's just striking as a goalie. Yeah, They're in the
window they need to try and win now.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
They do, especially locking up Igor, like once you knew
how long Egor's contract was and it's like, okay, you
have an amazing goalie, figure it out right now. And
I also think in terms of communication, Mike Sullivant seems
like the guy that would if he felt he needed
to step up and say something. Would I don't know
if the other coaches that have been there in the
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last three or four years would stand like say something
to Drury or Dolan or any of them that like
might need some input or any of that kind of stuff.
I know I've got facial recognition probably on me at MSG,
and I'll never be allowed back in there again, so
like who cares at this point?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Jokes not joking.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Okay, let's get into some of the second round matchups
that we have coming up. So we know that we
still are waiting on two series to finish up, but
like whatever, they can go battle it out and we'll
talk about the next one. So Nate, we'll start in
the West with Edmonton and Vegas.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
What do you got?
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Yeah, I mean this is gonna be a colossal series.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I think you know, you look at was it a
few years ago Vegas eliminated Edmonton and ended up winning
the Stanley Cup, And I think, you know, this one's interesting.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Because you know, Jack Eikel and Mark Stone in.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
The first part of that series against Minnesota were kind
of invisible and you could see the difference. And then
as soon as Jack Eichel kind of comes alive and
Mark Stone, you could see the series shift because Edmonton
or sorry, because Vegas is so deep, right, and to
add those guys and have them contribute it changed that series.
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So you know, going into this series against Edmonton, I mean,
both these teams are are built to win, and I
mean it's tough, right, I mean, I do think as
a whole. I think Vegas is probably a better team.
But I said the same thing about the Kings and
look what happened, and it's the playoffs. But this series
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is going to be amazing. I mean, you have I
mean yeah, I mean look at it. You have Connor
McDavid and Jack Eichel matching up against each other, two
players that are you know, elite, elite and so fun
to watch this league. And then you have you know,
I think probably Calvin Pickard is probably going to get
the start.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
I would imagine, yeah against an Aiden Hill.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
So I imagine this series is going to be a
six or seven game series.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
That's my prediction. I'm gonna pick Edmonton in this series.
I think for some.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Reason, I don't know what it was, the way they
change their game, the way they played in the last
three or four games against the Kings and now going
into this series against Vegas, I feel like they have
a confidence in them that you know, they can beat anybody,
and you know they've been there, they've done that. You know,
they were at the Cup finals last year and it's
almost like they kind of switched everyone's mindset after you know,
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you know, going into the playoffs, people were not Edmonton
Oilers believe. Now after beating the Kings, people are Edmonton
Oilers believers. So I think going into the series against Vegas, uh,
you know Vegas, Vegas is not going to be able
to do what they did against Minnesota and kind of
coast through the first few games like they did again.
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They're not gonna able to do that against Edmonton. You know,
Edmonton will make them pay. So this series is going
to be much watch I know that was long winded,
but I'm looking forward to watching.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
This one now.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I think you made great points there.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
That idea of like the belief that you can turn
it around is something that like you can't you can't
actually have it until you do it right when you
once you've done it, it's like, well, we've done it once,
we can do it before. I mean, we can do
it again. We've done it once. We can go back
in history and do it again. God, my brain is
just like a piece of mush today. Okay, we've done
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it once, we can do it again.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
We can keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
And like I just keep thinking back to Connor McDavid
last year and those the images of him, you know,
the video coming out after they lost and him just
like losing his mind.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
And I mean.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Also then probably winning the four Nations this year, like this.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Guy's got uh.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
You know, there's a lot of adrenaline pumping through this
man right now. That's obviously part of the entire team
identity as well. So I also would give Edmonton the
upper hand in that series. However, as we've seen, nothing
is what you think it is in the playoffs. Let's
go on to another one in that that's kind of being.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
A little bit overlooked. Maybe Carolina Hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
By the way, Oh okay, I'm not gonna say I
was gonna say a bad joke that like someone made
it the bar the other night, but I'm not gonna
say it because they'll just be mean anyway. Case, So
Carolina Hurricanes are facing Washington Capitals caps Canes. Doesn't that
feel like it's just Ovan bands maker dance. They just
already won this series?
Speaker 4 (43:23):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
I don't think so do I think that I think
Washington will win this series. But I think this is
going to be another long series. I mean, the way
Carolina is playing, Like I said, we talked about the belief,
you know, they have a belief in their room. They
have a belief in their in their locker room that
you know they can win. And you know those those
games against Washington, I mean they they had a lot
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of good games against them this year. So I expect
again a long series. You know, the physicality I think
of Washington, if they can play that, continue to play
that way, I don't know if Carolina can match up
with that. And then obviously, you know the goaltending issue
is is Freddy Anderson going to be healthy? Is you know,
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Logan Thompson going to play the way he needs to play?
You know, those questions will be answered. So I expect
this to be a super long series and a really
good one.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
But this is.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Big for the Carolina Hurricanes because if they don't win
this series and they don't get to the next round,
I don't know what's in store for the Carolina Hurricanes
ra season.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Like they've always been a good team that just have
never been able to get over that real like hump
in a way to get further. And I think that
I know that Freddy Anderson got injured on that play,
but like, man, is that storyline not just a revolving door.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Every series, like every playoffs, like the.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Status of Freddie Anderson and you and I both though
the many different iterations of teams he's played on, sometimes
that storyline has come up. And that's obviously, you know,
not saying anything. It's just like teams have had to
deal with it before. So maybe in that sense that Carolina,
because they've dealt with it before, they know how to
keep on dealing with Okay, very quickly, it's very quickly
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on this.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
So I Toronto and Florida, who, Julie, Yeah, Florida.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
They they are.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
I mean they are the team to beat. I mean
no question, the way they play, the way they they
play a perfect style playoff hockey game, and you saw it.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
I did not a little.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Bit dirty knock gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
I mean, you do what you gotta do to win
games to win a cup, and they do that, and
I mean I did not. I don't think anybody expected
them to beat Tampa in five games. I mean that
was no that was shocking, and it was almost like, okay, well,
they just reminded everybody that they are the best. But
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the Toronto Maple Leafs this year, the way they've played
the way they've played with composure, and you know, people
already expecting them to lose Game six and it's going
to be in game seven and they were going to
have a huge choke job like they always have, and
they just said, fans, listen, pump the brakes, We're okay,
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we are going to close this out. And they did
and there now they're looking ahead to Florida. And the
difference is, you know, when you go through the playoffs,
you know, every round you have to continue to get better,
just like in the just like in the regular season.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Well, the Toronto Mayple Leafs they have to get better.
You know.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Yes they played great, Yes they found ways to win,
but you know, those little laps as they had against Ottawa,
you know, not bringing it in a certain games, some
guys disappearing. They can't do that because you know, because
you know guys like Matthew Kachuck, Brad Marshaan, Sam Bennett,
they're not going to disappear. Those guys are when they come,
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you know, they're coming to to eat you.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah, they're they're going to come eat you.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
They're kind of come eat you.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
So time to hunt, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
Time to hunt.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
So the Toronto Bay pa Leice have to be ready
for that. They've got to be willing to engage. This
is going to be a physical series. It could be
a dirty series, like you said, but you, like you said,
you know this is this is if you want to
be the best, you got to beat the best. So
Toronto Maple Leafs, here's your opportunity.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
A bit of a tough mountain decline there, which is
just always what it's going to be like in the East. Okay,
So no, hope, whatsoever, I think this one goes.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
I think, yeah, I actually do. I was just going
to say that.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
I think it's going to be tied to two and
then it's going to be a best of three.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
And I think the Leafs get over the hump.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
I think they what don't I mean, you just you
picked the Kinks.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
Ok I know, but I picked the Leafs to the East.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, so that means the death sentence for them as well.
Thank you very much for that.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
No, it hasn't. I picked them to win last night,
and they won.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
So we are still waiting on the conclusion of the
other game series everything, but basically first round of the
playoffs always the best, best time. Honestly, I think in
all of sports, chaos in any sport. It's just the
first round is literal chaos. You don't even see your family,
your friends. You're just in front of your TV watching
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hockey all day, every day, all night.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
It's just insane and I love it so.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
On that note, we want to say thank you guys
all for listening to episode fifteen of The Energy Line
with natean JSB. Energy Line is a production of the
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Speaker 1 (48:37):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Welcome back to the Energy Line with Naytan JSB. I'm
Julie Sharpinks.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
He's former NHLR Nate Thompson, and we have lots.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Of series endings to react to.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
We've got a game seven a head, and we've got
a terrific guest in a few minutes, as the newly
retired at Pat Maroon will join us. Energy Line is
a production of the NHL and I Heart Podcasts and Nate.
As I mentioned, it's death taxes and the Toronto Maple
Leafs beating the Ottawa Senators. The only memory I have
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as a child was Toronto beating Ottawa, and I thought
that memory was going to change this week, but no,
it stayed intact, even.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Though it was a roller coaster that I did now
want to be on.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
What did you think about the fact that I don't
know you're an outsider of the Battle of Ontario, But
but what did you take away from that?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well, I told you, Julie, I said that. I said
they were going to close it out in game six.
I just had this feeling about the Leafs they play.
There's a different feeling in that team. This year, they're
a lot more calm, they're a lot more composed, and
you saw it in that game last night, like the
way that Ottawa ties it up in you know what
was it less than seven minutes left in the third period,
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and then no problem, they stay calm, they still play
and then that I mean, I gotta give more credit
to Max Stolemy that play he makes ye on the
net and the battle he wins the puck from two guys,
gets a puck from behind the net and it makes
a great play to Max Petretti in a slot and
they he ends up scoring the game winning goal. And
then on top of that, Willie Styles Kneelander last night
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was amazing, Like just I mean, there were so many
different guys I think that just stepped up and just
in key moments of the game. But for Willy to
come out with two goals and an assist, and you
know guys Austin Matthews was you know with that big
power play goal. I mean, just so many guys contributed
at the right time and that's what the Leafs needed
to be able to close the series out. And it
was great. It was great for LEAs fans. Like yourself, Julie,
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I know how.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Many I wouldn't call myself that, but like you know.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I know how much of a relief it was for
all Leaves fans seeing that and them closing out the series.
But at the same time, I got to give Ottawa
credit they gave. They gave Toronto a lot to handle,
and I would put the whole league out on notice.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
For Ottawa next year.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, I mean, I gotta tell you, I was shocked
how good Ottawa was, especially in the Game five.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I went to go watch that game out at the
Canuck Bar in New York City, and I forgot nate
that the Knuck would obviously have what what a lot
of Auto Senators fans too, because it's a Canadian bar,
which was a nightmare, but they were so kind wild
First of all, they like bought us all drinks after
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the Leafs lost, because I felt like just such a
Canadian move to do in that moment, even though Sens
fans usually hate Leaves fans so much, which is Canada
is all just like really come together, especially this past week.
But I would say having seen them just have absolutely
zero points, zero percent urgency in Game five, and then.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I was like I'm done. I was like nope. I
was like I know how this ends.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's not gonna be good, and it's gonna be it's
gonna be so bad this team might just have to
like shut down forever. Like I was just like, it's
gonna go it's going away. But then, like every every year,
the hope was reignited. And then it was patch O
Hulahan that scores the game winner right there.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Did not even expect him to be in the lineup.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
And we're talking about Max Patretti scores the game winner.
And then of course, as you mentioned, Willie Styles. But
a lot of the bottom six guys, the fourth line
is incredible. Bottom six. I feel like we need a
new line. We need a new term.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Bottom six. In Sineway, it's like the like the people
that suck.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But can we can we talk about Willie Nilander really quick?
What happened and what Elliet? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah yeah, Willie Nilander almost didn't play in this game.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, So for people listening, they put him down as
Alex Kneelander, his brother, and the rules state if so
the officials can go and tell the coaches and say, okay, listen,
we'll give you a moment to change this. I know
you screwed it up, but if the officials don't take
this in and don't see that and don't correct it,
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Willie can't play. So luckily they went to the coaches,
they corrected it and Willy was able to play. But
can you imagine though, if Willy doesn't play and that
and that's the reason why, because if it's prices averted.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, and like I don't know who puts the like
because it basically because it populated because the Black Aces
Alex is now with them. But like if you put
in like Kneelander, like Alex populates first, it's just like
an error on the computer. But like, and Craig Bruby
didn't like throw anyone under the bus after that. But
I was listening to Kyle Bagoscas from Sportsnet describe how
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I guess like in the pack Quinn era, Peter Laviolette
knew that there was this exact issue had happened, and
he waited until and I forget who the player was,
I'm Rob Reichel. Maybe it was like waited until the
puck drop, so then the game was on to bring
it up, because then that guy had to be removed
from the game.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Which is I love that from Peter Lavolett.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I think that's like such such a shit move to do,
but it's a great move. You got to use everything
you can in playoffs. I'll end on the fact that, uh,
I think the Leafs may, we may. I don't want
to sit I'm a little concerned about the Stolars situation
going forward. I know that there is another person named
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Joseph Wall, but he's been a little bit under the
weather and he hasn't been playing, and I don't like
to see a Joseph Wall go against the Florida Panthers team.
But I'm going to say he's gonna We're gonna see
some wool coming up. Maybe in the first ten minutes
of the first game, but other than that, the Leafs
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to me looked way better during the season and like
the first three games, and then went and really really
fucked with my mind and thought, oh, those future bets
that I put on earlier this year for them to
win the Cup aren't looking too hot right now because
I don't know if I trust them to go all
the way. And then I'm going to segue this into
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a team that looked like they were going to be
able to just eliminate another team, and that was the
La Kings just flip flop in the scripts in the
Edmonton Oilers winning four in a row. You were at
the first two games, the Harmonica Ladies were the story.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
They weren't there. They should have been.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, I mean, this one's tough, and it was. I
feel I feel for a lot of guys in the
Kings because this, I mean, they had this series, I thought,
in control, total control of the series. You're up to nothing.
Even in was it Game four, They're up three to one.
You know, they lose. They lose that game, and it
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seemed like the wheels fell off after that. It was,
you know, Edmonton just took over the series and you
almost saw a tale of two different teams with Edmonton too.
It was like they weren't a playoff team to start
the series, and all of a sudden they just flipped
it and it was, you know, they were too much
for the Kings to handle it. And in the latter
part of the series and and last night in that game,
you know, I think, you know, the Kings just it
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seemed like they just didn't have enough right. It was
like they were pushing, pushing, they just couldn't get over
the humping, and the Oilers kept, you.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Know, their power play was so good.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
They had you know, they've had different guys step up,
bottom six guys step up that aren't Connor and Leon
and then Calvin Pickard, I mean, Calvin Pickard was unblievable
last night, unbelievable, And like I said, the Kings just
they couldn't get over the hump. They couldn't, you know,
force that game seven and unfortunately, I mean, it's it's tough.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I don't know what the King.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I don't know where the Kings go from here, because
when you lose to a team four years in a
row in the first round, it's it's tough. And there's
gonna be a lot of reflection in the King's organization
right now.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, that's like they're the new The Oilers are the
new Bruins like to the Kings as like Toronto had,
like they the Oilers own Kings, which feels weird because
the Kings, you know, by nature, would own the Oilers.
But yeah, it is a tough one and especially for
a lot of those guys on that team that we
have highlighted this year. It sucks when you have a
great regular season too, and you have this great regular
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season like home record, and then it's just.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Like Kapulli like gone in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
However, you know, I don't know how you look at it,
but it's like, Okay Dowdy and guys like Coopatar, like
they're obviously nearing the end, closer to the end of
their career than the beginning of their career. So you
just wonder how much more they go for. But now
we know that Edmonton will feel the Vegas Golden Knights, who, like,
in my sleep somewhere along the line, beat Minnesota. I guess, like,
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I just missed that end of the series, and it
is my birthday week, I will say, so, I'm giving
myself a bit of a pass. It's been birthday week,
So yeah, I missed that last game, but I did
see that Edmonton was facing Vegas. I was like, I
guess that they beat Minnesota in that series. But now
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we know, I'm going to segue into something else. Right now,
we still have two series left to be decided. Because
the Central Division has a bit of a different time
zone than everyone else, and that's taking things a little
slower in the Prairies.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And we've got.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Saint Louis and Winnipeg, and we've got a Game seven
in Colorado and Dallas. And that game last night was
just snip snap, snipsnap. It was all over the place,
and it's great. And I think, like, I mean, Pete
de boor is eight and no in game sevens. This
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is his Oh, this is his like you know, safe space.
So I don't know, what do you can you imagine
if Colorado was eliminated in the first round.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It's honestly for both teams, I don't know what to think.
I was like, well, what happens with Dallas is what
happened in Colorado loses. It's like it's it's two Titans
that are going to be one of them is going
to be eliminated. And you know, you you mentioned Pete
de Borr And it's funny. In his interview and his
presser last night, he talked about, I really wish we
could have closed it out game six, but I do
love Game sevens at home, and it's just you know,
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he knows his record obviously, But you know Colorado, I
mean they're you know, they're a Cup winning team.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
They have guys have won Cups.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
They obviously have elite, elite players, and it's funny, right,
the game winning goal was the biggest flute goal that
I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Oh my god, Nate.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
McKinnon's goal, And he talked about it after on TNT
and in his interview he said, you know, that's maybe
one of the most important goals I've scored and maybe
one of the most weirdest goals I've ever scored. But
I mean, he did say though, and I agree with him.
You know, I thought Colorado was in control.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Of that game.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You know, they were taking it to Dallas most of
the game, and he said, you know, the hockey gods,
you know, rewarded us stay with that goal. So, I mean,
Game seven is going to be must watched. This whole
series has been must watch. I mean, just the star
power and how physical and fast and it's just it's
back and forth hockey. It's amazing to watch. So Game
seven is going to be electric. And I don't know,
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we'll see what happens. I really, I really don't know,
because it's it's tough for me to imagine Dallas or
Colorado being out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, and that was always going to be the problem
with them facing each other in that first round. Anyways,
it was like one of these teams is going to
have to go home, and you're like, gosh, just it
doesn't feel right. But yeah, with the goal going off
of Blackwell and in, it's like that, you know, the
hockey god stuff is so I feel so real, like
with Toronto playing Ottawa in that game five and that
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puck did not go in at the beginning of the
game where it went like behind hit the went behind
Stolar's and like hit the post and then like Morgan Riley.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Helped get it out after like Stolars.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Could didn't even put his like mid on it properly.
I was like, I think I tweeted. I was like,
that's the ghost of Pat Quinn like helping them out
because that they should have been down one nothing in
like the first few minutes of that game. And there's
always those weird moments that happened in the playoffs and
we're like, oh, puck luck, blah blah blah ah this stuff,
but like that's the reality of NHL playoffs, Like what's
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the do you do you have any moments that you
remember vividly playing where you're like that should have gone in,
or that did go in and shouldn't have.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Oh yeah, clear as day Game seven, I was playing
for Tampa against Boston. I tipped the puck zero zero,
probably about seven minutes left in the game. I tipped
the puck and it just barely goes wide, hits like
the side of the post on Tim Thomas, and shift
later they come down.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I wasn't on the ice. I don't know why I
mentioned that, but.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I wasn't on the ice. I had a bad change.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah, I know, I had my guy. I'm just kidding,
but yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
And then they ended up scoring like two minutes later
and ended up winning the game and going on to
win the Stanley Cups. So those moments, you definitely, you know,
they highlight your head and you you remember, like you know,
a game of inches. You know, maybe you know should
have would have cult up, but maybe it's the game winner.
We're going to the Stanley Cup finals and who knows.
But you know, those those little moments in the game
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where they's just inches where you don't know it can
it can change a whole series or change the whole
whole game.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And speaking of playoffs. We have a guy who knows
them really well because he has won three Stanley Cups.
We had someone on earlier this week who won six
Stanley Cups. Now three Stanley Cups. That means nine Stanley
Cups this week alone. This person is none other than
Nate's former teammate, the one and only Pat Maroon.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
He's with us on the other side of this break.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
We're so thrilled now to be joined by a three
time Stanley Cup champion, former teammate of Nate Thompson, someone
I also covered with the Anaheim Ducks. We always love
to bring up our Anaheim Ducks connection here on the show,
and that is none other than Pat Maroom. Pat, thank
you so much for taking the time to talk with us.
We know that you just announced your retirement, and like,
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what's it, what's it been like since you've made a
public to the entire world.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
First and foremost, thanks for having me, guys. I appreciate it.
It's always nice to see familiar faces, especially.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
Now when you're out of the game.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
You're gonna miss uh, miss you know, the camaraderie, miss
the guys and seeing everyone's face every day, So it's
always good, but it's been great. Honestly for me, it's
been it's been fun just to realize, you know, what
I accomplished in my career and I have no regrets
of you know, hanging the skates up. It was a long,
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you know career for myself and just be part of
some winning hockey teams and it has been really special
in some good organizations. So it's been a world win.
A little bit with the newborn involved, but other than that,
it's it's been great. You know, fresh dad and uh,
you know, have another girl, So I'm starting all over again,
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but I think it's our household will be it'll be
busy during retirement, so it'll be fun to you know,
be hands on again and you know, watch my daughter
grow up with another sister and obviously my sixteen year
old boy. But it'll be fun. So retirement's been great
so far. But I can't complain right now. Everything's trending
the right way.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Congratulations Patty and Francesca awesome after retiring. You know, for me,
it's it's I think sometimes it still sinks in. Has
it has it sunk in yet?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
For you? And what's next for Patty Maroon?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Yeah, I mean, I think watching the first playoff game,
you know, watching that, that's kind of what it kind
of hit me.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I had the goosebumps again.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
And you know, you play the game to play in
the NHL, and then you play the game to you know,
to get to where you want to have a long career, right,
you want to get there and stay for a.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Long period of time. And then after that.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
The icing on cake is to win, you know, and
playing the playoffs and win the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
And I think I'll miss.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
The playoffs a lot, but I think for me, just
to watch it and watch my friends that are still
playing the game and the playoffs has been really fun.
So I can't complain on that side of it. But
I think that's when it kind of hit me. It
was just sitting there and you know, watching those guys walk.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Out that tunnel.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
And I think the last two appearances I've been doing
with the Blues in Tampa too, I think watching those
guys it gives me, you know, gives me chills, watching
those guys and coming out the tunnel again, knowing that
you can't do that again, but just to be a
part of it, and you know, watch my buddies, like
I said, walking out that tunnel and go play right
and chasing their goal. So but other than that, media,
I guess. I guess I'll try to get back in
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the media if I really like it, see if I
take a liking to and if I don't, then we'll
move on.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
See see what's next for me?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Is that pat like a thing for guys, And I
know with Nate too, we've kind of talked about it,
but you retire and then it's like, Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I'll try media.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I'll try it on like it's a pair of jeans,
like I'll see if they fit, and I like it
in a way, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I think for me it's I love I love watching hockey.
I love breaking down the game with my buddies. And
you know, I always call Ryan mcdonnn after every game
and during the regular season, so it's fun. I always
like catch up with everyone and see their insights and
different mindsets they have after games and where their heads at.
So I think I've always wanted to do it. Don't
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know how I'll do, but you know, you got to
find out and try it right, like you said, you know,
it's like putting on a new pair of jeens. See
if you like it.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
They don't, you just take them off and then just
move on, right. So for me, yeah, I just.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I'm gonna try it, you know, pick up the microphone,
see if I like it. And you know, they'll tell
you if you're good or not. They'll keep you not
if you're not. So we'll find out.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
We'll find out here shortly during the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, you'll be fine, Patty. I mean, just be yourself
and we all love you guys.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yourself.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So uh, you know, you were just recently in Saint
Louis and in Tampa kind of pumping up the crowd
a couple of beer chugs. Maybe what did what did
that mean to you? Being back in both those places
that you won cups?
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I meant a lot. I think just seeing familiar faces,
especially in Saint Louis, you know, seeing everyone and seeing
my old teammates and you know, seeing the wives and
all their kids, and it.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Just means so much. And just have both organizations.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Take me back on and come back and you know,
just be a little piece of you know, their puzzle,
on their autimate goal. Right, So really fun to be
a part of it, especially putting that jersey back on
one last.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Time and then taking it back off.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
It always means something when you put that jersey back on,
no matter you know what jersey.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
You're put on.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
But especially with those two teams that you know, we've
had success with and one together with, so I think
that that was always special. But it was great, you know,
especially in Tampa, you know, seeing all the workers because
you know Nate, you walk through the right through the compound,
right to the locker room, and you see all the workers,
the janitors, you know, people that do everything outside of
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the organization and Colvin. You see all these familiar faces
that really just right up your day every single day.
And I think that was really cool to see everyone
and go back and do that walk one more time
and you know, give people hugs, and you know all
the cops that are around you, and and then obviously
my teammates and you know, the staff and coaching and
all the guys like the Breezers and the Belocks of
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the world.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
So it was nice to see everyone and be a
part of it again.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, that's great that you had that experience. And you
mentioned that you've worn you know a lot of jerseys.
You've had a lot of different eras. Let's just say
Nate has too, but you've had like the eras tour
of Pat Maroon. If we could go back to one
of those eras, you could pick and that would be
where you got to go?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Where and when would it be?
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I would always say Anam because that was like the
first team that gave me a shot, and we had
those guys that played in the eighties and the nineties,
so that was really fun to be a part of.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
I think I would go back into that.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Air, back to Newport Beach where yeah, back to Newport
Dayton Patty were hanging out, having a good time with
the Peninsula.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I gotta shift, I gotta shift.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Honestly.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Let's let's let's get into a couple of your former teams,
like Saint Louis is playing Winnipeg. What what do you
see from your former team in Saint Louis? And then
I want to do a second part too, is you
know also Tampa and Florida and what happened there with Tampa?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Yeah, I mean Saint Louis is good. I think obviously
we all know what hallibuck. They pulled him. He got pulled,
you know, game stream for in Saint Louis, you know,
they know for us. You know, when we're watching the game,
it says, how does Winnipeg get out of the get
out of the first round? Who's going to take him
to the next level, And it's it's supposed to be hellibuck,
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It's supposed to be your best player. He was their
best player all year. You know, he struggled, but I
think last game he's really picked it up. So I
think Jordan Bennington has been a rock star back there.
It seems to me he finds another gear, another level.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
He's so he's so.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Calm and collective in that net, and he's got a
lot of swagger that you know when he when he
starts to feel it. He's one of the best goalies.
You know, in the playoffs. You know he can he
can really take a team far. And obviously we all
know in twenty nineteen, but I think the Blues are
just tenacious. It seems like they're they don't give up
on pucks, they back pressure. There's no time in space
right now, and I love their for check and I
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really enjoy their fourth line right now with Porchenko, Walker
and Fasta. I think they've done a really good job
of shutting down the top line. I know it will
be a better matchup for them tonight, maybe Connor because
I didn't get to watch the other game, so I'm
assuming Connor and Shift got away from them at home.
But I think they'll be on those guys tonight. It's
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going to be a different story with Shike's out tonight.
They got to take advantage of this now, right and
it's an opportunity for them to go tie the series
up and go back and try to win one in Winnipeg.
But it all comes down to goalie. I think if
both goalies stay.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
On their head, then you know, never know.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I think it's it's it's a serious that Beneking can
steal from Hullibuck and.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
We'll see what happens tonight. So I'm really looking forward
to that. But I think with Tampa, man I they
just ran in too many injuries. Vast he wasn't Vast.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
It felt like he wasn't making the routine saves that
he usually makes. And that's okay, though, you know, he's
he's arguably the best goal He's up for the Vesna
again this year.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
He's arguably the best goal in the league, him and
Bob are and they go neck and neck.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
And obviously Hallibuck, but those are the two guys that
compete in the playoffs and take their teams to the
next level, and you know when they need you the most.
You know, obviously we can talk about coach. What one
goal in that series, the power play wasn't wasn't the best.
I think they really missed uh It Quicks. How do
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you say his name? The guy that got hurt Borschrand,
he got hurt, I mean, and he's on the right
side and that helps him tremendously, you know, having a
right shot that has a good one timer. It just
seems like they're missing him on.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
That power play. Flora's is too deep. Man. They play you, they.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Play stingy hockey, boring hockey. It's a hard rim retrieval
above the park, four check back, good gaps, three quarter ice,
put it back in. I mean, it's just it's exhausting hockey.
And that's playoff hockey right there.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So John Cooper is someone you know, well, won two
Cups with him, and we've seen him as being like
a guy like you know, he's he's great quotes. He
seems like he's always an interesting guy, but like and
always very much in control.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
But you've played with him, you know what he's like.
Maybe what's something.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
That would surprise us about him as either a person
or a coach that we would never know unless we
were someone like you played with him.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Well, I mean, there's no surprises, I think with Coop.
When he's in the media, you see what he's like,
you see who he is, you see what kind of
person he is. The one thing where Coop is so
good at and which I really like, he knows how
to read a room and he knows how to understand
to give their players their space, no one to.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Come in, no one not to come in, and know
what the guys need. I think he's just he's so
good at that.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
He's one of the only coaches that know they just
have such a good feel that no one will ever
see or you guys will ever witness. We all know
he's a great talker. You guys get to see that,
you know, you get to see him in the media
and how he approaches you know, the game, and the
way he can communicate, and it's just unique. And I
think he's got a unique way of coaching.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
I really like Coop a lot. I've had him.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I had him when I was sixteen that I got
the opportunity to play with him for four years. But
I think the biggest thing is one to he has
a really good feel of reading the room and sensing
like what the guys need. Maybe I'm talking too much
so I'm not coming in. Maybe you don't need video.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
So I think he has a sense of that of
like where we're at. And he's always been amazing at that.
So that's something that's really drawn to me that a
lot of coaches don't have.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I echoed that a lot with Coop too, Patty. I
mean I had him, and I think is a swagger
and his confidence, you know, and I think, yeah, it's
infectious throughout his team. And my question is is besides Coop,
obviously you had him in junior, what other coaches have been,
you know, influential in your career, maybe in the NHL
or even before that when you were younger.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Was a huge impact on my career. Kelly Chase was
obviously a big influence in my career. Never coached me,
always had my back. You old my team and the
Bandits at the time when I was playing with Koop
and But I think the guy that was like the
most influence on my career is Trey Jannie. Thank god
he got hired in the minors when I got trade
Anheim and Syracuse. He was the type of guy that
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just he had belief in me all the time. He
never he never gave up with me. He believed in
me and knew what kind of player was, knew what
I brought. But I think the most important thing is
you know when a coach pulls you aside and says, hey, man,
you have to start fighting. I know you don't want
to hear those words, but I think that's going to
prolong your career. That's going to get you to the
next level. So how can we get to get to
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the next level. He's like, you're so intangible to teams
that you can play on the fourth line, play tough,
and you know you can get moved up on the
first line and playing with the top guys. So you
have so many intangibles to like work with. He's like,
if you start fighting, show toughness, Bob Murray and Anaheim
will take a liking to that. Obviously, Randy Carr that
I was there my first year. I played two games
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under him and then the lockout happened, and then that's
what I kind of made it with you guys, Nate,
and yeah, I just started fighting. He believed in me
and always had my back on call ups. You know,
he's been really he had a really big impact on
my career and it was cool to be a part
of him when he was in our team too. Are
d coach in the NHL too, so we kind of
got called up together. So always great to talk to Yons.
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I love and I know he's in LA right now.
Tough lot, No, he's in No Detroit. He's just been really,
really big impact on my career.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I love to hear that.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Trent Yanni is certainly a stand up guy. And you
talk about fighting, and I remember, Pat, you just reminded
me of something when you guys would play La as
as Anaheim, and you know, those games were always so
feisty and just like it turned up. I think you
told me like you remembers like you couldn't sleep, like
in your pregame nap before because you were like, I know,
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I'm going to have to probably drop the mits, Like
there's just so much energy amped up for this and
this is kind of like my role when you look
at like fighters and or guys that like are kind
of expected to grease the wheels out there, like a
Tom Wilson. Can you take us inside what like it's
like before a game or during a game, especially in
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the playoff, of what is going through your mind and
your body when you know that you're probably going to
have to either lay a big hit or drop the
mits or do something physical to help your team in
a huge moment.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Yeah, it's tough, you know. I think at a younger
age it was harder because I think knowingly that I
was like kind of fresh meat out there, like and
I was just like going out there.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
I was fighting early.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
On and sometimes going in the games, I was walking
to the game or getting coffee then walking to the bus,
and I was nervous as hell getting on that bus
knowing that, like shit, I might have to do.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Something tonight and I don't know if I want to
do it.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
And because you go into the game and you see
who they have and you're like Jesus Christ, and I'm
not tough by any means, but I think my end.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Goal was just to show up and just be there.
But like you said, Julie, it's hard.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
You know, like like if Tom Wilson's in the game,
like you have to keep an eye on that guy
because like he can hit the hurt and he can
you know, he catches guys with their head down. And
you find players that you're gonna play against, like a
Jordan Tutu is always.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
A guy on my mind. Every time I play against him,
I'm like, what is this guy gonna do?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Right?
Speaker 5 (29:12):
It's obviously it's hard, but I think at the end
of the day, you have to tell yourself, hey, you're
in the NHL.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Don't be scared. It's all right. It's all right to
have a little nerves.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
But as long as you show up throw a big hit,
you know someone's gonna come after you. You know, if
someone throws a big hit on your teammates, you're gonna
have to do something. The hardest part was, you know,
if you start the game or your first shift and
it's you go up to the face off dot and
you look to your left and it's a tough guy
and you're like, well, fuck, this is my first shift.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
This so I'm kind of in one here.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
But it's just funny though, because like my first ever
full time I.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Was in Minnesota. It was in the Ozone.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
We line up and it's Clayton Stoner to my left,
Kannafkat center, Ice, and Mike Rupped on the inside, and
They're all just asking me to fight, and I'm like
as scared as hell, I'm just taking Kanofka, like you know,
like screw these guys, Like these guys are mutants.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Rubber and stoner. But yeah, I mean those those are
the times.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
But if that doesn't happen, then I don't think I
have a fourteen year career in the NHL.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
When we talk about you and we talked to other
people about you and your career and having seen you
from the beginning, which was like not the beginning, but
like say a decade ago.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Gosh, I always loved dating myself on this pot. I'm
like a.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Decade ago covered you guys with the ducks, And if
I said to myself, oh, in ten years time, Pat
mrun will have three Stanley Cups.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Nate will have zero, but like sorry, so I got
zero too.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Pat will have three Stanley Cups and his career will
almost be like has acted as a real inspiration for
a lot of people like as in finding a way
to succeed.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
What does it feel like to have.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Had this kind of impact and for your career to
have flourished as an has and it's it's now become
like such a rallying point and an inspiration for like
anyone who's trying to make it.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
It's for sure pinch me moment smiling and thinking about
my career and laughing throughout my career. But There'll be
times when I'm just walking around in the house and
just picking things up and I'll just start giggling to myself, saying,
like I just played in NHL for fourteen years, So
it's just like pinch me moment of like, you know,
how I got through that adversity that came with it.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
But I never really I.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Just always put my head down on work and just
try to do the best I can to be a great,
great teammate to everyone and be nice to everyone and
just trying to be there and whatever it took for
me to just to stay at that level. I think
that's the hardest part for me, is how do you stay?
And I didn't know at the time. You know, I
played two games and I sat there for a little bit,
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and I went through another summer of like, all right,
maybe I just played those two games, it's over. And
then you know, I got my chance, and I was just,
you know, how do I stay? And I was like
watching Nate and the Perry and gets Off and Timu
and Saku and Kygliano and you know these guys friend
from Poshman, Brian Allen. You know, you see all these
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guys and you're like, I want to hang out with
these guys.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
How do I just stay?
Speaker 5 (32:18):
You know, and you just you just listen, you watch,
and you're kind of a teacher to yourself watching these
other guys do things.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
So I think for me, though, if I leave the
game winning three.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Stanley Cups, who would have dripped especially well with my hometown.
I just try to be me every day. If I
wasn't me, I don't think I would succeed, you know.
And I just had to be me every single day,
And hopefully that had an impact on the younger generation
or the guys that are watching me that you know,
you don't have to be an All Star to play
ten years, five years in this league, and you can
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adapt on the fly. You can adapt a certain situation
certain rules and are you willing to do it? So
hopefully someone else has to pinch me, you know, kind
of moments like I did throughout my career and a
special moment, and like I said, the Stanley Cups are
just icing, But I think the friendships you go leaving
the game are the most important thing. So a lot
of people that have impacted my career and I've learned
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learned so much from and that taught me everything and
I brought that to someone else. So hopefully the next
generation of kids kind of feel the same way I felt,
and hopefully I left an impact on this.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Game that they can have to leave in the game.
So that's all I wanted to do. And hopefully, like
I said, it touched people. So if not, then it didn't.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
But you know, I'm just I'm just happy to play
the game I love for so many years.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, Patty, And I mean even for me, You've been
an inspiration for me just watching you know, just the
importance of guys like you and how you play and
in the playoffs. You see guys in the playoffs right now,
the guys that are blue guys, the guys that are
the energy guys of you know, the bottom six, how
important they are. H And as we're in the playoffs,
you know what teams or who you looking at, Like,
who do you think is UH is going to win
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this year?
Speaker 6 (34:03):
I really like Dallas.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
I know they're banged up right now, but I you know,
I think that Dallas Colorado series has been really fun
to watch. It's been back and forth. You know that
game last night, Colorado goes up to nothing, then Dallas
comes back and takes the lead, and then you know,
Colorado comes back. There's so much high power, so many
skilled players, guys that can really just change the game
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in a second. But I really like a team out
of the West this year. But I'm pulling for Dallas
because I like the Jamie Benz of the world, the
guys that play hard and guys that deserve that been
in the league for so long.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
But it's gonna be hard to be Florida, it really is.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
I mean, I think you got to beat the best
to be the best, and I think that's you know,
the way Florida plays and the additions they added this year,
it's going to be tough for teams to take them down.
But you know, hopefully Toronto it just seems you know,
with Bruby now coaching, it seems like they're playing with
a little more nasty, a little more you know, bite
to their game, a little more jammed. So hopefully you
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know they can keep that because you know, that Florida
team just they're in your face and it just seems
like they don't give you any breathing room. So hopefully
those top guys can take over. But hopefully to see
Dallas and Florida, that would be fun series to watch
two big, heavy teams go at it.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, definitely, Pete de Boy would want to be in
that as well, as we've highlighted the fact that he
hasn't been there yet. But I think you got some
great predictions there, and Pat, you know better than anyone
what it's like to get all the way there, the
war of attrition every single round, having to just like
you know, lay it on the line, but still be
able to mentally and physically be in it till the
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very end. So we appreciate you for being here to
the very end. It is such a pleasure to have
you on and congratulations on a fantastic career on and
off the ice, and we can't wait to see what
you do next, and we think, I definitely think you've
got to pick up the microphone. You've got a lot
of good stories, you got a lot of personality character,
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and that is exactly what the league needs. But whatever
you decide to do, we know be successful in it.
So thanks again for joining us here.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Nice guys, I appreciate it, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
All right, welcome back to Energy Line with the JSB.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
And some big news coming out here on Friday is
that the New York Rangers have hired Mike Sullivan as
their next head coach. Huge coup, I mean, being able
to get Sully to.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Be their new head coach.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
They must have just I'm sure the numbers may be
out there, maybe not, but guys going right to the bank,
because you know that the Rangers definitely wanted Mike Sullivan,
and then we know a lot of teams wanted Mike Sullivan.
And now the Rangers like actually kind of maybe are
much better than they were earlier this week.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, I mean we talked about this before, and I
feel like the writing was on the wall and Mike
Sullivan being the head coach of the Rangers, and I
think from also, you know you here Mike Sullivan and
Chris Jury had a really good relationship with you know,
the four Nations USA Hockey stuff like that, you know,
being able to plan things together. And I think now
you know that Mike Sullivan is gonna be on the
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same page as Chris Jurry. There's not going to be
any disconnect. And that's that's a good start for the
Rangers going into next season. You know, Mike Sullivan's a
detailed guy. You know, his resume speaks for herself what
he's done. So the Rangers are in a much better
spot now having Mike Sullivan.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, and I'm curious how that now affects maybe some
of the player contracts or players that might have thought
I'm out of this train wreck of an organization now
that I Well, Mike Sullivan is a really good coach,
and like he's been on this pod and he's like
just like you know, he's as you said, his resume
speaks for itself, and he's he's a winner minus against Canada,
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but like he's a winner, and he's Stanley cupsts so
and if he's if he's you know, good with Drury,
that's like that's he right then.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well, and I think too. I think the Rangers this
season was a bit of an anomaly. I do think
that Chris Jerry's gonna make tweaks. You know, Mike Sullivan
be the first the first place, or the first thing
in order to hire a new coach. But I think
that he's going to retool this team to get obviously
to be a contender again for next season. They already
have so much talent and so much skill, and you know,
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Igor's just striking as a goalie. Yeah, They're in the
window they need to try and win now.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
They do, especially locking up Igor, like once you knew
how long Egor's contract was and it's like, okay, you
have an amazing goalie, figure it out right now. And
I also think in terms of communication, Mike Sullivant seems
like the guy that would if he felt he needed
to step up and say something. Would I don't know
if the other coaches that have been there in the
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last three or four years would stand like say something
to Drury or Dolan or any of them that like
might need some input or any of that kind of stuff.
I know I've got facial recognition probably on me at MSG,
and I'll never be allowed back in there again, so
like who cares at this point?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Jokes not joking.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Okay, let's get into some of the second round matchups
that we have coming up. So we know that we
still are waiting on two series to finish up, but
like whatever, they can go battle it out and we'll
talk about the next one. So Nate, we'll start in
the West with Edmonton and Vegas.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
What do you got?
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Yeah, I mean this is gonna be a colossal series.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I think you know, you look at was it a
few years ago Vegas eliminated Edmonton and ended up winning
the Stanley Cup, And I think, you know, this one's interesting.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Because you know, Jack Eikel and Mark Stone in.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
The first part of that series against Minnesota were kind
of invisible and you could see the difference. And then
as soon as Jack Eichel kind of comes alive and
Mark Stone, you could see the series shift because Edmonton
or sorry, because Vegas is so deep, right, and to
add those guys and have them contribute it changed that series.
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So you know, going into this series against Edmonton, I mean,
both these teams are are built to win, and I
mean it's tough, right, I mean, I do think as
a whole. I think Vegas is probably a better team.
But I said the same thing about the Kings and
look what happened, and it's the playoffs. But this series
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is going to be amazing. I mean, you have I
mean yeah, I mean look at it. You have Connor
McDavid and Jack Eichel matching up against each other, two
players that are you know, elite, elite and so fun
to watch this league. And then you have you know,
I think probably Calvin Pickard is probably going to get
the start.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
I would imagine, yeah against an Aiden Hill.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
So I imagine this series is going to be a
six or seven game series.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
That's my prediction. I'm gonna pick Edmonton in this series.
I think for some.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Reason, I don't know what it was, the way they
change their game, the way they played in the last
three or four games against the Kings and now going
into this series against Vegas, I feel like they have
a confidence in them that you know, they can beat anybody,
and you know they've been there, they've done that. You know,
they were at the Cup finals last year and it's
almost like they kind of switched everyone's mindset after you know,
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you know, going into the playoffs, people were not Edmonton
Oilers believe. Now after beating the Kings, people are Edmonton
Oilers believers. So I think going into the series against Vegas, uh,
you know Vegas, Vegas is not going to be able
to do what they did against Minnesota and kind of
coast through the first few games like they did again.
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They're not gonna able to do that against Edmonton. You know,
Edmonton will make them pay. So this series is going
to be much watch I know that was long winded,
but I'm looking forward to watching.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
This one now.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I think you made great points there.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
That idea of like the belief that you can turn
it around is something that like you can't you can't
actually have it until you do it right when you
once you've done it, it's like, well, we've done it once,
we can do it before. I mean, we can do
it again. We've done it once. We can go back
in history and do it again. God, my brain is
just like a piece of mush today. Okay, we've done
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it once, we can do it again.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
We can keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
And like I just keep thinking back to Connor McDavid
last year and those the images of him, you know,
the video coming out after they lost and him just
like losing his mind.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
And I mean.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Also then probably winning the four Nations this year, like this.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Guy's got uh.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
You know, there's a lot of adrenaline pumping through this
man right now. That's obviously part of the entire team
identity as well. So I also would give Edmonton the
upper hand in that series. However, as we've seen, nothing
is what you think it is in the playoffs. Let's
go on to another one in that that's kind of being.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
A little bit overlooked. Maybe Carolina Hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
By the way, Oh okay, I'm not gonna say I
was gonna say a bad joke that like someone made
it the bar the other night, but I'm not gonna
say it because they'll just be mean anyway. Case, So
Carolina Hurricanes are facing Washington Capitals caps Canes. Doesn't that
feel like it's just Ovan bands maker dance. They just
already won this series?
Speaker 4 (43:23):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
I don't think so do I think that I think
Washington will win this series. But I think this is
going to be another long series. I mean, the way
Carolina is playing, Like I said, we talked about the belief,
you know, they have a belief in their room. They
have a belief in their in their locker room that
you know they can win. And you know those those
games against Washington, I mean they they had a lot
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of good games against them this year. So I expect
again a long series. You know, the physicality I think
of Washington, if they can play that, continue to play
that way, I don't know if Carolina can match up
with that. And then obviously, you know the goaltending issue
is is Freddy Anderson going to be healthy? Is you know,
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Logan Thompson going to play the way he needs to play?
You know, those questions will be answered. So I expect
this to be a super long series and a really
good one.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
But this is.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Big for the Carolina Hurricanes because if they don't win
this series and they don't get to the next round,
I don't know what's in store for the Carolina Hurricanes
ra season.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Like they've always been a good team that just have
never been able to get over that real like hump
in a way to get further. And I think that
I know that Freddy Anderson got injured on that play,
but like, man, is that storyline not just a revolving door.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Every series, like every playoffs, like the.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Status of Freddie Anderson and you and I both though
the many different iterations of teams he's played on, sometimes
that storyline has come up. And that's obviously, you know,
not saying anything. It's just like teams have had to
deal with it before. So maybe in that sense that Carolina,
because they've dealt with it before, they know how to
keep on dealing with Okay, very quickly, it's very quickly
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on this.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
So I Toronto and Florida, who, Julie, Yeah, Florida.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
They they are.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
I mean they are the team to beat. I mean
no question, the way they play, the way they they
play a perfect style playoff hockey game, and you saw it.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
I did not a little.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Bit dirty knock gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
I mean, you do what you gotta do to win
games to win a cup, and they do that, and
I mean I did not. I don't think anybody expected
them to beat Tampa in five games. I mean that
was no that was shocking, and it was almost like, okay, well,
they just reminded everybody that they are the best. But
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the Toronto Maple Leafs this year, the way they've played
the way they've played with composure, and you know, people
already expecting them to lose Game six and it's going
to be in game seven and they were going to
have a huge choke job like they always have, and
they just said, fans, listen, pump the brakes, We're okay,
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we are going to close this out. And they did
and there now they're looking ahead to Florida. And the
difference is, you know, when you go through the playoffs,
you know, every round you have to continue to get better,
just like in the just like in the regular season.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Well, the Toronto Mayple Leafs they have to get better.
You know.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Yes they played great, Yes they found ways to win,
but you know, those little laps as they had against Ottawa,
you know, not bringing it in a certain games, some
guys disappearing. They can't do that because you know, because
you know guys like Matthew Kachuck, Brad Marshaan, Sam Bennett,
they're not going to disappear. Those guys are when they come,
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you know, they're coming to to eat you.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah, they're they're going to come eat you.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
They're kind of come eat you.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
So time to hunt, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
Time to hunt.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
So the Toronto Bay pa Leice have to be ready
for that. They've got to be willing to engage. This
is going to be a physical series. It could be
a dirty series, like you said, but you, like you said,
you know this is this is if you want to
be the best, you got to beat the best. So
Toronto Maple Leafs, here's your opportunity.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
A bit of a tough mountain decline there, which is
just always what it's going to be like in the East. Okay,
So no, hope, whatsoever, I think this one goes.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
I think, yeah, I actually do. I was just going
to say that.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
I think it's going to be tied to two and
then it's going to be a best of three.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
And I think the Leafs get over the hump.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
I think they what don't I mean, you just you
picked the Kinks.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
Ok I know, but I picked the Leafs to the East.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, so that means the death sentence for them as well.
Thank you very much for that.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
No, it hasn't. I picked them to win last night,
and they won.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
So we are still waiting on the conclusion of the
other game series everything, but basically first round of the
playoffs always the best, best time. Honestly, I think in
all of sports, chaos in any sport. It's just the
first round is literal chaos. You don't even see your family,
your friends. You're just in front of your TV watching
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hockey all day, every day, all night.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
It's just insane and I love it so.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
On that note, we want to say thank you guys
all for listening to episode fifteen of The Energy Line
with natean JSB. Energy Line is a production of the
NHL and iHeart podcasts and thanks to Pat Moran for
joining us.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Thanks to Jake Brown for producing the show.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
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Speaker 2 (48:34):
I'm Julie Sharp Binks. He's Nate Thompson. Nate Now.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
I'll be back on Tuesday reacting to the final games
of the first round of the playoffs and we will
break down round two. Thank you so much for tuning
in to the Energy Line. Enjoy the weekend and we
will chat with you next week. Energy Line is the
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