October 14, 2021 • 40 mins
On this week’s episode Amara gets personal with OnlyFans creator Allie Rae. They discuss how the former nurse went viral for her OnlyFans page. They also talk about the state of the platform, how to create a business model around OnlyFans, and how Allie’s life changed when she was fired from her nursing job.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's popping is a girl I'm not And you're listening
to Exactly a Mada, a production of I Heart Radio. Well,
I have some sad news. Unfortunately, my co host CV
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NOONEZ will no longer be with us. He's working on
some bigger projects. He has some of the things going on.
We will always send him love and support and they
know that he's listening and he's part of Exactly a
Mada family no matter what. But you know, sometimes things happen,
and U as sad as I am, I know that
he's doing great things in life. I'm so grateful for
(00:42):
the time that we shared together on Exactly a Mata.
He brought a lot of juice, he brought a lot
of spice, a lot of I know, and all that
good stuff. But you already know how it is anyways,
willing right along at today's topic is all leave fans.
I know, I know, I know you guys have been
(01:05):
talking about it. Some of y'all have been subscribing on
the low. Stop lying. You know, you have your own,
you know your own the only fans on the low,
and you'll be watching when nobody else is watching. Um
and um. Some of you may not even have an
only fans, But you might be curious. You may be curious,
or you may or you may have a certain mindset
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a perspective on the type of people that use only fans,
and you actually might just be wrong. Other people that
are only fans are not there necessarily because they're financially struggling.
Some of them do it because they like it, some
of them do it to feel liberated, some of them
do it for financial reasons, some of them do it
for whatever the case may be. Some of the people
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and only fans are actually professional, well educated people that
graduated from different careers listen only fans. In the beginning,
I think that a lot of people were like, oh,
that's the whole wars, Oh that's for slugs, Oh that's
for this, and not necessarily some people may not be
none of those things, and they just might be doing
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it to make themselves feel good. And by the way,
if you can make a couple of dollars on the sides,
why not not to mention is not just a couple
of dollars. I've heard of some girls that made five
thousand dollars, ten thousand dollars, a hundred thousand dollars. Wouldn't
only fans kind of make you change your mindset for
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two seconds. Those people that are in college working so
hard to get a degree, to get not even close
to that type of money a month. Well, for that
and many more other things, I'll tell you this much,
I have an amazing guest today. Not only is she beautiful,
she's smart, she's an amazing mother, a fantastic wife. She's
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just all of that in a bag of chips. A
former Navy veteran. I mean, I'm sorry, she's an betteran
and she's a former I see you nurse, So look
at that. She's pretty smart as she's bodied. Oh my god,
I can't wait for you guys to talk to Ali.
Ray my love, how are you? Thank you so much
for joining me today? Oh, thank you so much for
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having me. I appreciate it, of course, most definitely. Well,
I have had the honors of being able to interview
you already, which we could kind of talk about it already. Um,
and for that, guys, you have to stay tuned to
Don't Cancel Me, Don't Cancel Me on Fuse December one,
my new TV show. UM, I was able to have Ali.
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We had such a good time. We were drinking wine,
we were being honest on and off camera. She came
with her husband. By the way, he's so supportive of her.
He's so sweet, he's so amazing. And I just want
you added to tell your story for those that may
not know you, Um, I want to let them know. Originally,
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what did you study? How is your life growing up?
And then the transformation from zero to a thousand? Yeah
for sure, UM. So I mean growing up, I actually
grew up and pretty like my family was pretty poor. Um.
I had a pretty broken home. You know, a lot
of toxicity in the household. Um. And so I went
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into the Navy at seventeen to just kind of get
away escape. UM. I think it spiraled me into being
like an overachiever because then I went on and I
got multiple degrees. And after the Navy, I ended up
becoming a nurse. UM. And so I did nursing and
excelled in that as well well up into my doctorate. UM.
And then the pandemic hit. Yeah, the pandemic hit, and
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I think things just changed for me. I don't know
really what it was, but it was like a mindset.
I think, like a lot of us felt kind of
like a little underappreciated maybe, UM. And my husband I
lost his job, so you know, we started to just
like I had an Instagram, I would just like post things,
um like, just like more like vlogging or beer reviews.
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And some girls at work have found my Instagram which
led them to see that, Um, I also had an
only fans um which, by the way, I'm sorry guys,
just in case you're still now putting two and two together.
Alie Ray is that famous nurse, that famous veteran that
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was popular all over social media, like her story went
viral like it went viral because she basically got fired
from her job as a nurse for having an only
fans page. Like, how unfair is that? Um? When you
found out? You know, we'll actually know when you're co
workers found out, because those were those nosey as bitches.
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They were over there hating and they got too fired.
First of all, how did you feel that? Were you
friends with any of them? Did you share that you
had an only fans with anybody at work? How was that? No?
I had never talked about it with anyone, honestly, just
my husband and I. And the thing is on the unit. Um,
I was really I got along with everyone respected. It
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wasn't like when this happened, I was like, oh, yeah,
I know it's probably that you know, I know who
it was. I had no clue, and I knew, like
there's somebody around me that like, it's along with me
every day that I probably eat lunch with. Um. That's
what was the most heartbreaking. It was like it was
such a vindictive thing. Like I could tell people were
going out of their way to make this like an
issue for me, and I was like, I've never done
anything these people like. I was always so helpful, friendly. Um.
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You know, really it was really really like a blind side.
It was. It hurt me more in that way, you
know that I I felt like people were judging me
and dismissed everything you know about me prior that. I
was a very educated nurse and I was super you know,
ambitious and stuff on the unit and helpful. So it
was really it was a really crappy situation. It really was.
It's toxic. At some point, do you consider that it
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was almost a blessing that they found out and you
got fired from your job? Yeah, people have asked me that,
and I think about that. I'm like, you know, I
know I would have left eventually because the amount of
money I was making, like it made absolutely zero sense
for me to continue to work, you know, fifty hours
a week on my feet like that. Um, I think
it's just more of the nature of how I was
pushed out and I wasn't ready. I still love what
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I did, and I didn't get a chance to come
with like two terms. So I mean it was a
blessing because it excelled my business. Obviously, it basically pushed
me out, and maybe that's what I needed, because, like
I said, it wasn't any reason for me to be
working at that time. I just I didn't want I
didn't I liked it. I liked going to work. I
really did. Like I've said before, I think that people
have a certain mindset of the people that do only
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fans without knowing that you can be an extremely well
educated person, be a person of morals and all, you know,
all types of values, and still do only fans because
you're open minded. Do you feel that your family, friends,
or whomever are being judgmental towards you for doing that?
Does your family support you with your only fans account
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or your kids? Yeah? So like my little sister. UM.
She actually found out before I went viral, because she
found a viral TikTok you know that she came across it.
So I had a conversation with her. She was the
first person outside of my husband and I that we
told UM. She's very supportive. I don't speak with my
mom or dad much, so I didn't never really was
concerned about their opinion. But my children, I was incredibly
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concerned because my oldest is eighteen and I'm seventeen and twelve,
so the too older too. We we definitely had to
take them to dinner, sit down, have a conversation with them,
like UM in a vanilla way, you know, besides just
busting out and telling them exactly what was going on.
It was like they kind of grasped and understood and
they respected it and they knew. I think for them
it was comforting once they knew, like, Okay, you know
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mom and dad were both doing this. It's not like
Mom's doing this behind that's back type thing. Um and so.
But the support has been great. I haven't had any
problems with that. Talking about support, I know that there's
so many toxic relationships or there's so many because I
consider myself to be slightly toxic. Um, I been feeling
like what's mine is mind? Like, if that's my dick,
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I'm not sharing with nobody, You're gonna show nobody now. However, Uh,
your husband actually was cool as hell to support you
with what you were doing. He wasn't like super judgmental
to you about it. How was how was that conversation
because originally you shoot it off by yourself, cute pictures,
boom boom boom. Then from there, I'm guessing you went
to like, maybe let me just show a little bit
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of nipple, like all right. Then from there I was like, okay,
you know what, I'm gonna as well, just show my
ass crack. And from an ass crack, it was like, look,
I'm just gonna show you this, you know, let me
just show you my old Like, um, how was that
transition to to actually, you know, telling your husband, hey, listen,
would you like to you know, join me in my
own parents? Yeah? I mean I think you know, he's
(09:46):
definitely still not. He doesn't like camera. He's very camera shy.
He doesn't show us face on there. Um. I think
in the beginning, you know, we had a lot of requests.
People would ask for stuff, and I've been in the
beginning from my only fans, very very upfront with all
my subscribers. I'm a very married woman. You are not
gonna sweep me off my feet, like I'm not leaving
him like so, I think it was important for me
to for him to have a person take you know,
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this was important. It just was so. I mean, he's
really grown with it, but it's certainly I mean it's
something that there's things I do now on him that
I never thought I would. But you know, you grow
with it and you get a little more what I
didn't tell me, like what do you what have you done?
Like everything we feel full, the full shebang. I mean,
(10:33):
we definitely do everything on there. Um yeah, I said
getting fun in your ass because we already found that
out on don't cancel me. Your booty is not part
of the deal. It's no, it's not happening. Yeah, it's scary.
It's scary back there. It's okay though. It's okay though.
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But I love the fact that he supports you. Um.
I love the fact that your children and you you
guys were such a mature you know, uh, you're a
mature family to come together and a united family to
come together and be like, look, we're gonna have this
conversation with you. You know, we're adults where your parents
were together, and um, we're gonna be doing this. Obviously,
you guys don't have to see it. I'm glad that
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it came from you and they didn't have to find out,
like you know, someone in school or something like that
that they could get bullied for or whatever the case
may be. Does your youngest truly comprehend what an only
fans is? No? No, I mean I think it's just
more of like a modeling thing, um and stuff like that. Yeah,
there's no, And I think it's still you know, he's twelve,
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but he's very young at heart. Still, he's more like nine.
You know, he's there's some room there where he'll have
to you know, as he gets older, he'll understand more
and kind of what's going on. But you know, it's
kind of, Uh, it's weird because it's like it is
like a body positivit thing. It's like very hard because
you don't want to shame it. And the way you
come about it, it's like almost like when you hide
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it or you try to like no, no, no, no.
You know, it's it's almost like you're reinforcing that shame.
So it's been a really hard balance to really try
to make sure that I'm presenting it in a way
that you know, it doesn't come off that way. So it's, yeah,
it's a learning process. It's it's not easy. I mean,
I remember, imagine a lot of people in this industry
have this issue with children, especially when you have three boys.
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It's it's definitely talking about three boys. I know that
there's a lot of single mothers or there's a lot
of mothers overall period to listen to my podcast, and
a lot of them may feel so conscious about their bodies.
I'm not gonna lie, and I'm gonna be honest. Look,
I used to wait to thirty pounds. My body has
gone through a lot of you know, roller coasters. Sometimes
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I'm fast, Sometimes I'm skinny. Sometimes I think I'm think
I don't know what's going on, like my body be
all over the place. Sometimes you seem me skinny, and
then sometimes all of a sudden thing, I just gained
like twenty pounds, so I have stretch marks, I have
selling light, I got dimples. My confidence is late because
no matter what, I can still get it. Period. I
can still take your and so don't play with me. However, however,
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you also have an amazing story when it comes to
your body transformation. You weren't always the girl that we
see today on only fans. At one point in life,
you were a little bit thicker, a little bit stronger.
Tell me about, um, you your confidence, how you were before,
and how only fans you know, helped your confidence. Yeah,
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I you know, I started. I had my first child eighteen,
and then I had another one in nineteen, and then
another one a couple of years later. So I mean
there was like all these years where there was like
this babyweight that just kept putting on, and of course
it was super difficult to get off. I'm only five four,
so wait, adds up, you know, really easily on me
in my height. Um so I had lost like a
hundred and twenty pounds back in my Yeah, and I
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was always, even in high school, kind of like a
thicker girl. Um back then you would call thick, you know,
early you know, late nineties. But now it's like it's
acceptable to be curlier and thick, you know, amongst women
at least men always liked us that way, but women
now are like, okay, I want a booty. But so
I think when I lost the weight, there was definitely
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a shift in me. I mean, the things I could wear,
I felt cuter. I got attention that I never had before. Um,
my confidence went up. And I think my husband's seen
that too, And you know, it was like it was
happy for me because you know, to be so young
and have all these babies, those are like my prime
years and my body was like not the body of
a twenty year old, you know. Um, and that was depressing.
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So that really started a lot, and of course spiraling
into this, you know, especially what I'm doing now. You're right,
Like I remember thinking, who the hell would want to
see me? Make it like I have a mom body
in here, stretch marks tell you like the whole nine yards,
you know, like just in body, a real body, a
real body. Yes, it's like not it's not perfect and
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so um that's what I liked about Only fans though,
because that's kind of what they want, because let's be real,
they could get all the photoshop stuff on Insta and
everywhere else if they want to see the real thing.
And it feels more candid, and it feels more natural.
And so for me that was like wow, like this
is a real mean being put on there and people
like it, and that that was definitely a confidence booster
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people from being like a regular mom, regular nurse, regular life.
You know, I'm sure soccer or whatever sports in the weekends, right,
tell me to take me through the first time. Yes,
it's one thing. Listen, I'm not about taking sexy pictures
because you guys have already seen my Instagram and you
know I'm trying to evolve a little bit and cover
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it up two seconds. I'm eager to all the time
to be like, let me just show my ask one time.
But let me just show my ask one time. But
tell me and take me through the process of the
first time you actually decided to, you know, have sex
openly on only fans like that one time. Okay, look babe,
we're gonna do it. So all right, you know, just
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say like that send you know that that tell me
how it was for you to finally put up your
first video. Yeah, you know. Um so even to this day,
I think it's the most natural one. It's not like stage,
just definitely candid, so there's there's drinks involved because usually
you know, we'll go to dinner, have some drinks, you know,
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you come home and it's kind of like, oh, let's
just pop the camera on the tripod and you you know,
and I think if you go into it thinking, well,
if we don't like, we don't got to post it,
you know what I mean, like, let's just film it.
We don't like it, we don't got to post it? Um?
And what is we don't like it? What does we
don't like it? Mean? What is it like a bad
sex video? I guess like for me, I would feel like, oh,
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you know, like as a girl, be like oh I
don't like that angle or I really chubby, or I
don't feel like I look cute or I don't know,
or like I look sloppy or whatever it might be.
If it looks like which is probably the good stuff, right,
all the good stuff what they want? Um. But I
mean at that point, you know, so I think the
first time we did and we watched it the next morning,
and of course I'm like, I can't even watch it
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like until this day. I'm like, just tell me if
it looks good, like I can't. I'm like I just
have like super embarrassed inside to watch myself. It's very
weird to get it. I've done I've done it, but
I've never posted it because then, like in the moment
when you're horning, like uh yeah, and then when you
watch it the next day is like, what the funk
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was that? I don't want to turn it off? I
know sometimes I'm like, who is this bench? What has
happened here? But yeah, I think then we watched it
when you know, the next day we're like, that's pretty hot. Okay,
let's just let's just throw it out there. And then
people loved it and they wanted more of it, So
then it gets to be like, okay, let's make another one.
That was easy. Um. And so that's kind of how
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it first started to be honest. Yeah, so you went
from like how was your first your first? I mean, look,
I've never had an only fans. I've always been eager
to download it. I've watched it through like other people's phones. Um,
and then here I feel a little bit awkward because
I'm not gonna lie. I want to support you because
now after getting to know your story and after getting
to know you, I really actually like you like, she's
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such a sweet person away from what you may see
on her Only Fans, and she's sexy and noddy and
does all these great things. She's such a really nice person.
So how was your first week? Like your first week
on only fans? You went from doing like how much money?
To like how did it evolve? So? I had started,
I started this page, people were talking about it. I
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signed up. It was kind of a pain, and he
asked to be honest to sign up as a creator.
Almost I even made a comment to my husband like
I'm not I'm not doing this anymore, like I'm done
with trying this because you have to opo your I
D So I kind of actually created account and posted
anything on it. I told a few people in the
d M s. I went back in there like two
weeks later, and there was like forties subscribers. I was like, oh, ship,
people are like paying and I don't have any content
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on there. So then I started posting our first month
we closed out, it's almost seven somewhere in there, like
seven thousand dollars and that was with maybe like eight picks.
And I was like, okay, alright, so this this is
real deal, Like let me post a little bit more
with some effort, and then it just kept going and going.
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You know. We we stayed around that seven to eight
grand mark for a couple of months and then it
was like fifty sixty now over three thousand dollars a month.
I mean, and this we just hit one year on
the ninth September, So that's all within a year, and
I mean it grew very very quickly, very quickly, hundred
thousand a month. How does your change? You know? It
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was its dramatic. I mean it's like I think, I mean,
I continue to work as a nurse until even when
I was making sixty seventy grand a month, and I remember,
looking back, I'm like, who the hell would do that?
But I never felt like the money was real. It
always felt like bullshit, like this is this can't be real?
And it just kept coming in. And of course then
I learned the platform and what makes you more money,
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and you know, making more videos obviously is where you
make a lot more money. And so it's like once
you figure that out, you're like, oh wow, like this
is a lot. And so I mean, for us, we
haven't splurged. We bought a new jeep and we're gonna
build a house. But other than that, like student loans
have been paid off, credit cards. It's just the basic ship.
You know, hockey got paid for. I mean, we haven't
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really splurged our checking accounts, just having gone zero to
a thousand because a lot of people and I personally
know some people that have created their only fans. They
studied getting a little bit of money and all of
a sudden, now you see them full of jewelry. You know,
they're driving expensive cards, and you know they're eating at
expensive restaurants every day and just you know, burning out
(20:47):
the money. Um. But you guys have said it to
invest and do things differently. You know. I am still
the girl. Like my husband laughs at me all the
time because I still am like checking the bill at
the restaurant. Oh we didn't order that, you know. I'm
like every time I still stop at TJ Max. Like
it's funny because like I know, I can buy these
things for myself. I could go and spend, but I
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love a good deal, and I just think, no matter what,
I'm always going to be the girl. Like it's funny.
Though I don't have a problem with the botox or
what I don't care about the bill for that because
that goes back into the business. But I think, like
for me, I don't. I don't foresee myself ever living
in a very flashy life. So we're definitely gonna have
a nice home for our family, um and that that
will probably be the biggest and most splurgeous thing we
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we do. I want a good, nice, beautiful content room.
There's stuff like that. But yeah, I think I think
I'm still gonna be that girl wearing flip flops, cut
off shorts and just very That is honestly me at
heart and so very humble. Yeah, yeah, you see that's
nice now talking about how much money you've made on
only fans and how basically this has um redirected your
(21:52):
whole career. How was it for you when Only Fans
for two seconds announced the they were going to start
taking away the sexual content out of only fans Because originally,
for those I mean, I know, only fans, to my understanding,
was just a platform where people could create exclusive content
for their fan base, whether it was like exclusive music
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videos or exclusive videos whatever. Little by little, especially during
the pandemic, and started kind of like you know, changing waves,
and then it became a little bit more of a
sexual situation. UM, were you panicking like, oh my god,
my whole lifestyle, my whole money, and my whole everything
can like go down the drain right now. Well, what
was ironic is that news broke the same week that
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my story broken went virals, so obviously that it got
it was kind of like motherfucker, you know, right only
making the bank. It's like, okay, now you want to
shut down UM. But in my heart, honestly, what I
felt like when that occurred, and I did a lot
of interviews on this UM, people were reaching out because
they were like, oh, yeah, you make it all this money,
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but now it's going to go away, you know, all
this whatever. UM Only Fans doesn't have a search feature, Okay,
so it's not like people can go on there in
search and artists like, the cool thing is is everyone
that's on your Only Fans is there because you brought
them there. They came from your I G or Twitter
wherever else you're promoting. So I knew in my heart
there there for me, and they came there for me
so I could direct them somewhere else. And so I
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will tell you what that news that broke for me personally,
what I foresee is I definitely don't want to put
keep all my eggs in one basket with only fans UM.
I don't trust that there may not be something in
the future. So I'm going to mirror my only fans
on at least two other platforms, specifically, probably a platform
called I Fans and maybe fans Centro, and I'd like
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to just mirror them that way. You know, I have
the content everywhere, it'll all be the same. But that
was ultimately goal. I haven't put that in a place ship,
but that's honestly what I think you're gonna see a
lot of creators do because it was scary. I mean
some people that it could have put some girls back
on the streets. I mean, let's be real, they're making
a lot of money on there. UM I didn't, I
wouldn't have had that problem, but there are girls that
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that really really rely on that. You know what, I
want you to talk about it, and now I'm talking
about a more serious you know, the more serious aspect
of only fans um for those that may not know,
Only fans also gives a safer opportunity for girls who
feel sexually liberated, financially independent, make their money from home,
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from a studio, from whatever the case may be. But
a lot of these girls originally started off in the
streets and um, just in need of feeling like if
I can't make my money home doing what I'm doing now,
I might have to go back into the streets. Can
you talk a little bit about it, um, I don't.
I know that you're not from that side, but I'm
sure that you've heard and you've seen other girls that
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truly appreciate this platform because of the liberty it gives you. Yeah.
I mean, all you need is a cell phone and
internet and a data plan and you could literally make
you know, a six figure income. I mean you could,
you can do whatever. And I think that's huge because
if you were in this industry, you know, you have
girls who maybe worked in brothels out and the atta,
or on the streets or in strip clubs, maybe things
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that they never you know, that put them in harm's way,
and now you've given them an opportunity to be able
to to still make money. I also think about people
that you know don't have the luxury being able to
go to work period and doing this from home. These
are the stories that I've heard that people that have
come to me since my story broke. You know, they'll say,
please help me, like I need to, I need, I
need some kind of financial freedom, and um, that's terrible.
(25:26):
I mean, all the fans should be happy that they
have thrided a platform like that, and so, you know,
they could have a lot of people would have been
in a bad situation real quick, for sure, sure, for sure,
for sure. And then here's another important part. I never
knew this two latest talking with you because I don't know.
I guess in my mind automatically assumed like, yeah, they're
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making all this money from I'm thinking like a lot
of people do. And I know, don't judge being, don't
cancel me, but I'm just being exactly a lot of
and this is what it is. But I was just
thinking like, Okay, all these girls are making all this
money from only fans, blah bla bla blah blah. You know,
they don't got no expenses this and that talking to you,
I realized for those that are making like heavy money
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on only fans, not the ones that are beginning. And
you're taking like maybe two or three pictures and something
like that, but the ones that are really like into
this business full core. You guys do have expenses and
this goes from hair to makeup to wardrobe too everything else.
Tell me what it's what expenses look like for an
only fans girl. Yeah, I mean if you're if you're
a big time on this platform. I hate that my
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story makes us look a lot very easy to girls,
because let me tell you, to get to this level,
it is a business and you are one or maybe
two man show. Um, you know you have marketing expenses,
you have promoting expenses. You know you have like you said, wardrobe, hair,
you know, waxing, you've lighting, Um, there is some gym
memberships you gotta do. I mean, if you get botox,
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what are all the things that you know you do?
I mean it is there is a Crapton expenses and
a lot of it is you really should take your
income and you know that's just being an industry, entertainment
industry in general, and put it back into yourself and
like in terms of marketing yourself and promoting. And you
do have to do that, and that's very hard for
people in the beginning to to comprehend. Like what I
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gotta give up like twenty grand a month ago. And
you know, but that's what we spend. I mean, we
spend a lot of money a month putting back into
the business and so um, so many expenses that go
into it. It is not snap a pick, you're good.
It is like, well, lingerie, you know, you gotta buy
all you gotta keep it spicy, you gotta keep all
the things you know going, and so um. We have
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a crafton expenses. A lot in taxes. Let's not let's
not forget the tax talk about the taxes. Those that
may not know. Yes, you may be making a lot
of money on the only fans. Bet okay, guess why
you still gotta get that cartin and continue right back.
How much in taxes are we talking about? Just to
have an idea, Oh my gosh, okay, well, I'm this
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is my first year. So I in twenty twenty two.
I am terrified because I went from a bracket making
you know, maybe eighty nine gran a year two now
I'm making a hundreds of thousands a month. I can't
even imagine when my taxes give me. But I know
it's thirty seven percent, is what I hear. Now you
can write stuff off, so you know, I'll definitely have
someone to help me with that. But you're not. You're
not walking away through. You're gonna pay, you know, hundred
(28:19):
two or three hundred thousand dollars a year in taxes
like you just will. And that's it's hard that. That's
another reason I like Florida. I want to know, and
another already asked you, but I want to know what
is your un of view and how do you feel
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about prostitution becoming legalized? Because that was something that I
was thinking about, Like if for any instant white reason,
because this is still a sexual service, if for any
instant white reason, Um, you know, women had an opportunity
of having like a license or whatever and being illegalized.
You know, I I'm a prostitute or a woman that
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provides certain sexual services whatever. And then on top and
then the top of that, after they, after they, after
you did your gold all, you know what I'm saying,
beat up and stretched out and all these things. Now
I gotta pay you taxes for that too. How do
you feel about that? I hate the tax thing. I
think that's insane. I think taking any of anyone's income
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just because you make that's that is a problem. Like
the more money you make, the more they're gonna take.
And unfortunately it's like, but you work hard for that.
You know, nobody just has that handed to they They
get back to the community to fix the streets and
you know, provide certain services for the community. So I guess,
and yeah, I mean, I guess if your money is
going it is it's it's hard, It's that's a whole
another topic in itself. But I mean, I feel like
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in terms of the prostitution thing, you know, I never
want to hear I don't ever like the idea of
the government telling a woman what they can do with
their body, you know, and that if they want to.
You know, models make money off their body by pictures.
You know that it's very very er um and so
that kind of that part sucks. And so to say
legalized prostitutions will be wonderful if we could do that, um.
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But I do agree there has to be a safe way.
We can't, I mean, because there's you get the trafficking
that comes into play and stuff, and that stuff worries me.
So you don't want to make it easier for those
type of people. But at the same time, you know,
I like the idea license or registered or you know,
some kind of thing like that. I feel like if
there's a way to do it where it it definitely
is safe and um that and you can and you
can track these women down, because that's that's the most
(30:30):
important part. For example, being able to do it an
only fans. It provides you a safe space for you
to do it. Everybody knows you have to provide your
ide like there's you know, we can track you down. Um.
But for the girls that are out here in these
streets doing it, you know, they're afraid to tell anyone.
They're you know, they're afraid to talk about it with
their families, or they feel exchanged or whatever. You know,
they can get lost out here and then nobody would
ever even know. So definitely I think that that, you know,
(30:53):
since we're still talking about you know, sexual services, Um,
I think that that would be great. Now here's another
thing that I'm thinking, because I'm was thinking as a businesswoman,
as an entrepreneur and all that good stuff. You were
trying to think of ways of making more money out
of this. So you're making all this money out of
only fans right now? Do you see yourself maybe perhaps
you know, growing into just the pornography industry and just
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like only fans could be part of it, But how
about just taking it a step further? Would you do it? Um?
I don't think so, because that to me doesn't seem
as UM, it's not really me. Like I feel like
what I like about only fans is it's my business,
my it's it's it's my life, and it's it's really
cool that you have control. You have that control, and
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so I like that, and I like the non scripted.
I like the natural candid you know, that's that's definitely fun.
I foresee for me for my future, UM, definitely continuing
and entertainment in general, like not just the only fans.
You know, I have that always, But I like, um,
you know, I want to educate. I want to talk
to people. There's a lot of people reaching out to
me about helping them, you know, grow something from zero
(31:58):
to six you know quickly like that and giving my
tips and help people. So that's something that I have
great interest in. I love these open conversations like this.
This is stuff that I think needs to be talked about.
And that's why you know, I'm I definitely want to
have a part of that, and I feel like that's
where my sweet spot is going to be. I also
was thinking like, if you guys have been able to
(32:19):
create such an amazing team between your husband and yourself, UM,
and you've been able to figure out, you know, the
niche into being able to grow this brand, would you
be would you be open to creating some type of
business where you can help provide the same service and
maybe commission off other girls that are working on Only Fans. Yeah,
(32:39):
you know that's what's Only Fans does have a referral program.
It's not the greatest program, but it is kind of
nice because, um, you know, you do earn a little
bit of commission off them, not not from the creator's earnings.
You know, you aren't. Only Fans gives you a portion
it so it doesn't cost the creator anything. UM. The
issue and that it's kind of nice because that means
my time to educate and help and train and mentor
(33:00):
those people is worth it. UM Because certainly at this point,
you know, you, when you get to this level, you
start charging for time and that's that's really what it
boils down to. UM. But I think, UM, in general,
I kind of want to do something off of that too,
Like you said, I really want to do some kind
of master series or training program that you know, I
could sell to someone and like have them under my
wing and do live you know, feeds and videos and
(33:23):
one on ones and mentor shing. I want to be
under your wing. Listen, I don't have an only fans
because I'm scared. I'm scared about endorsements, my future. You know,
in this industry, of the entertainment industry, there's a lot
of things. I'm notna lie, I'm only but human, and
I've thought about it. I've seen other girls do it.
I'm like, ship, I could do it. I got titties
asking the dot two like, I could be sexy. I
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can try it, um. But then you know, there's this
there's this a stigma when it comes to having an
only fans where a lot of brands will be like, no,
you know, you're not good for our brand because you
have an only fans and da da da da. But
maybe if you did it on the low, because I
know that there's girls that use masks wigs. What have
you seen on only fans, Like what type of fetishes
(34:07):
or what type of like freaky stuff or people into
an only fans. Yeah, there's a lot of That's what's
cool about all the fangs. You can make your business
whatever you want to be. There's people that don't show
their face that just do fee. You know that you
could do what you're comfortable with. Um I tell you,
I would consider myself a fairless shelter girl prior to
this um in this industry. And when I came on
here and the things people are asking, I literally thought
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they were jokes, some of them. And that's not to
be a disrespectful way, but they have to understand. Some
of this stuff is so foreign to me that it
was like wow, like that's a sexual thing for people,
But um, I have there's there's a lot like for
one I don't. We talked about one the other day
on your show and about these people that are turned
on by like sneezing and the anticipation of its coming.
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That was so rare to me and I actually like
I was researching the psychology of that ship like all night.
I was like, well, let me understand this, but break
it down. The anticipation of sneezing is like what to
be like why just the you know, they like to
watch the sneeze build up. The build up is very
important and the tissues reportant. I ask you what boogers
to like the snot and everything or no, that's another level,
(35:10):
like you know what they do that one I asked.
I asked these questions. I'm like, you know, do you
want to see the sneeze? I mean, I don't know
what you know? So, yeah, there's there's like all different
levels of it. Man. They're like very serious about it,
and it's such good money because especially the fetish world,
they know that, let's be real, they know there's it's
a little weird and it's hard to for them probably
to approach girls to ask these things, you know, and
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so when they find someone that's willing to do it
for them, they are loyal as hell um and I
love it. I never want my people to make them
feel like I think we use the word weird or
different like loosely, but I think even they know, like, yeah,
this isn't the norm, Like obviously not a lot of
people are running around, you know, getting turned on by sneezes.
But it's uh, they're very loyal you know, because they
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you know, they build that connection with you. But I
love the fact that only fans let to be you know,
sex really free. It allows women like yourself to become
financially independent by finding a different source of income. Um,
you know, I am like judgment free zone. I'm just
a curious cat. I'm curious to know about all these
things because I feel that, like myself, there's a lot
of people that are curious but don't have anyone to ask,
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and maybe are afraid to ask. If you had any
advice for any girl out there, and guys too, Let's
not think the only Fans is just for women. There
are men out here making a lot of money out
of only fans as well. If you had any advice
for some girl that maybe shy or scared or doesn't
know how to take her first step, but really wants
to get into only fans, what advice would you give her?
(36:38):
I would say, you know, start off with what you're
comfortable with. You may know, okay, if I post a
full frontal, I'm gonna get more money, But don't do that,
because the last thing you want to do is start
on this platform, make yourself feel like crap about yourself
and have all these regrets, and then you won't be successful.
It's okay if you start off and all you're comfortable
showing is maybe you're booty and a thong, like it
(36:58):
is what it is. And I think if you maintain,
you know, kind of let yourself build to what you're
comfortable with, that's important because this this industry can really
really mess with your psyche and it can build confidence
or it can really tear you down. And so I
think that's important to be okay with everything you do
and make sure everything you have you do do you
are willing to accept that that potentially could go public
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because it's real, people will take your ship and that
that is a hard thing. You know, you to this day,
you know, there's certain things I don't do um on
only things that people have asked me to do. I'm
just not comfortable with it. I don't want to do
it um And yeah, sometimes it's like but I'll pay
you five grow and you're like, awesome, But I'm just
not comfortable doing that and I don't want that out
in the public. So I think just being real with
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yourself about it, because it's definitely a psychologue. There's a
there's a psychological shift. You're gonna have when you started
only fans into where you become very successful on only fans. Okay,
so there you go. Those are the best tips right now.
You heard it from her. She's making three hundred thousand,
three d and sixty almost four hundred thousand dollars a month,
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so she knows your ship. Oh, not to mention the
fact that also remember right, give those tips too. It's
not just about the content that you post. You also
have to get back into your business by getting a
marketing team, right you said, what else you need to have?
You you are going to be your own marketing team
until you're willing to hire out and delegate stuff. But yeah,
you you gotta. You have to be active on every
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social you have to. You have to remember people can
get born anywhere for free. Why are they going to
play for it from you? Because they want to see you.
So you need to make sure you're building your brand,
your personality, you and that myself. That is more time
than only fans, just building that exposure and that's important,
very important, or you won't grow well most definitely, and
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people want to follow you on your social media platforms
or download and subscribe to your only fans. Where can
they find you. Uh, you know, I always tell people
just to go to the alley raid dot com. I'm
gonna has it is a link tree there has all
my links to everywhere. But I'm your most platforms. I'm
the Ali ray A L L I E r A.
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You already know I want to download. I don't even
have it on my phone. I really don't, but I
want to download and only fans just so that I
can support you. Because I know that you're doing great
things with this money, for your family, for yourself, and
you're an amazing woman. And I am inspired by your
work ethic and the way that you're making things happen
(39:28):
and inspiring other women as well. I love talking to
you guys every Thursday. Allie ray thank you so much
for joining us today. I have had so much fun
talking to you. I've learned so much and I'm really
considering opening my only fans if I call you on
the low, Hey, listen, I need to help me out.
You already know. By day I want to know from
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my exact my exactly a Mada fans. Guys, would you
like to see me with an only fans? If I
had an only fans, would you guys subscribe. I just
want to know because like if I get a lot
of people say yes, oh my god, I think I
am I doing I think I am I doing it?
And also go check us out. All of our episodes
(40:11):
are available if you go to YouTube and write a
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enjoy these episodes. For more podcasts from my Heart, visit
the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you
listen to your favorite shows. You already know. I'll see
you guys next Thursday on Exactly I'm
What's popping is a girl I'm not And you're listening
to Exactly a Mada, a production of I Heart Radio. Well,
I have some sad news. Unfortunately, my co host CV
(00:20):
NOONEZ will no longer be with us. He's working on
some bigger projects. He has some of the things going on.
We will always send him love and support and they
know that he's listening and he's part of Exactly a
Mada family no matter what. But you know, sometimes things happen,
and U as sad as I am, I know that
he's doing great things in life. I'm so grateful for
(00:42):
the time that we shared together on Exactly a Mata.
He brought a lot of juice, he brought a lot
of spice, a lot of I know, and all that
good stuff. But you already know how it is anyways,
willing right along at today's topic is all leave fans.
I know, I know, I know you guys have been
(01:05):
talking about it. Some of y'all have been subscribing on
the low. Stop lying. You know, you have your own,
you know your own the only fans on the low,
and you'll be watching when nobody else is watching. Um
and um. Some of you may not even have an
only fans, But you might be curious. You may be curious,
or you may or you may have a certain mindset
(01:26):
a perspective on the type of people that use only fans,
and you actually might just be wrong. Other people that
are only fans are not there necessarily because they're financially struggling.
Some of them do it because they like it, some
of them do it to feel liberated, some of them
do it for financial reasons, some of them do it
for whatever the case may be. Some of the people
(01:46):
and only fans are actually professional, well educated people that
graduated from different careers listen only fans. In the beginning,
I think that a lot of people were like, oh,
that's the whole wars, Oh that's for slugs, Oh that's
for this, and not necessarily some people may not be
none of those things, and they just might be doing
(02:09):
it to make themselves feel good. And by the way,
if you can make a couple of dollars on the sides,
why not not to mention is not just a couple
of dollars. I've heard of some girls that made five
thousand dollars, ten thousand dollars, a hundred thousand dollars. Wouldn't
only fans kind of make you change your mindset for
(02:29):
two seconds. Those people that are in college working so
hard to get a degree, to get not even close
to that type of money a month. Well, for that
and many more other things, I'll tell you this much,
I have an amazing guest today. Not only is she beautiful,
she's smart, she's an amazing mother, a fantastic wife. She's
(02:54):
just all of that in a bag of chips. A
former Navy veteran. I mean, I'm sorry, she's an betteran
and she's a former I see you nurse, So look
at that. She's pretty smart as she's bodied. Oh my god,
I can't wait for you guys to talk to Ali.
Ray my love, how are you? Thank you so much
for joining me today? Oh, thank you so much for
(03:15):
having me. I appreciate it, of course, most definitely. Well,
I have had the honors of being able to interview
you already, which we could kind of talk about it already. Um,
and for that, guys, you have to stay tuned to
Don't Cancel Me, Don't Cancel Me on Fuse December one,
my new TV show. UM, I was able to have Ali.
(03:36):
We had such a good time. We were drinking wine,
we were being honest on and off camera. She came
with her husband. By the way, he's so supportive of her.
He's so sweet, he's so amazing. And I just want
you added to tell your story for those that may
not know you, Um, I want to let them know. Originally,
(03:57):
what did you study? How is your life growing up?
And then the transformation from zero to a thousand? Yeah
for sure, UM. So I mean growing up, I actually
grew up and pretty like my family was pretty poor. Um.
I had a pretty broken home. You know, a lot
of toxicity in the household. Um. And so I went
(04:18):
into the Navy at seventeen to just kind of get
away escape. UM. I think it spiraled me into being
like an overachiever because then I went on and I
got multiple degrees. And after the Navy, I ended up
becoming a nurse. UM. And so I did nursing and
excelled in that as well well up into my doctorate. UM.
And then the pandemic hit. Yeah, the pandemic hit, and
(04:42):
I think things just changed for me. I don't know
really what it was, but it was like a mindset.
I think, like a lot of us felt kind of
like a little underappreciated maybe, UM. And my husband I
lost his job, so you know, we started to just
like I had an Instagram, I would just like post things,
um like, just like more like vlogging or beer reviews.
(05:05):
And some girls at work have found my Instagram which
led them to see that, Um, I also had an
only fans um which, by the way, I'm sorry guys,
just in case you're still now putting two and two together.
Alie Ray is that famous nurse, that famous veteran that
(05:26):
was popular all over social media, like her story went
viral like it went viral because she basically got fired
from her job as a nurse for having an only
fans page. Like, how unfair is that? Um? When you
found out? You know, we'll actually know when you're co
workers found out, because those were those nosey as bitches.
(05:48):
They were over there hating and they got too fired.
First of all, how did you feel that? Were you
friends with any of them? Did you share that you
had an only fans with anybody at work? How was that? No?
I had never talked about it with anyone, honestly, just
my husband and I. And the thing is on the unit. Um,
I was really I got along with everyone respected. It
(06:09):
wasn't like when this happened, I was like, oh, yeah,
I know it's probably that you know, I know who
it was. I had no clue, and I knew, like
there's somebody around me that like, it's along with me
every day that I probably eat lunch with. Um. That's
what was the most heartbreaking. It was like it was
such a vindictive thing. Like I could tell people were
going out of their way to make this like an
issue for me, and I was like, I've never done
anything these people like. I was always so helpful, friendly. Um.
(06:31):
You know, really it was really really like a blind side.
It was. It hurt me more in that way, you
know that I I felt like people were judging me
and dismissed everything you know about me prior that. I
was a very educated nurse and I was super you know,
ambitious and stuff on the unit and helpful. So it
was really it was a really crappy situation. It really was.
It's toxic. At some point, do you consider that it
(06:54):
was almost a blessing that they found out and you
got fired from your job? Yeah, people have asked me that,
and I think about that. I'm like, you know, I
know I would have left eventually because the amount of
money I was making, like it made absolutely zero sense
for me to continue to work, you know, fifty hours
a week on my feet like that. Um, I think
it's just more of the nature of how I was
pushed out and I wasn't ready. I still love what
(07:15):
I did, and I didn't get a chance to come
with like two terms. So I mean it was a
blessing because it excelled my business. Obviously, it basically pushed
me out, and maybe that's what I needed, because, like
I said, it wasn't any reason for me to be
working at that time. I just I didn't want I
didn't I liked it. I liked going to work. I
really did. Like I've said before, I think that people
have a certain mindset of the people that do only
(07:36):
fans without knowing that you can be an extremely well
educated person, be a person of morals and all, you know,
all types of values, and still do only fans because
you're open minded. Do you feel that your family, friends,
or whomever are being judgmental towards you for doing that?
Does your family support you with your only fans account
(07:58):
or your kids? Yeah? So like my little sister. UM.
She actually found out before I went viral, because she
found a viral TikTok you know that she came across it.
So I had a conversation with her. She was the
first person outside of my husband and I that we
told UM. She's very supportive. I don't speak with my
mom or dad much, so I didn't never really was
concerned about their opinion. But my children, I was incredibly
(08:20):
concerned because my oldest is eighteen and I'm seventeen and twelve,
so the too older too. We we definitely had to
take them to dinner, sit down, have a conversation with them,
like UM in a vanilla way, you know, besides just
busting out and telling them exactly what was going on.
It was like they kind of grasped and understood and
they respected it and they knew. I think for them
it was comforting once they knew, like, Okay, you know
(08:42):
mom and dad were both doing this. It's not like
Mom's doing this behind that's back type thing. Um and so.
But the support has been great. I haven't had any
problems with that. Talking about support, I know that there's
so many toxic relationships or there's so many because I
consider myself to be slightly toxic. Um, I been feeling
like what's mine is mind? Like, if that's my dick,
(09:03):
I'm not sharing with nobody, You're gonna show nobody now. However, Uh,
your husband actually was cool as hell to support you
with what you were doing. He wasn't like super judgmental
to you about it. How was how was that conversation
because originally you shoot it off by yourself, cute pictures,
boom boom boom. Then from there, I'm guessing you went
to like, maybe let me just show a little bit
(09:24):
of nipple, like all right. Then from there I was like, okay,
you know what, I'm gonna as well, just show my
ass crack. And from an ass crack, it was like, look,
I'm just gonna show you this, you know, let me
just show you my old Like, um, how was that
transition to to actually, you know, telling your husband, hey, listen,
would you like to you know, join me in my
own parents? Yeah? I mean I think you know, he's
(09:46):
definitely still not. He doesn't like camera. He's very camera shy.
He doesn't show us face on there. Um. I think
in the beginning, you know, we had a lot of requests.
People would ask for stuff, and I've been in the
beginning from my only fans, very very upfront with all
my subscribers. I'm a very married woman. You are not
gonna sweep me off my feet, like I'm not leaving
him like so, I think it was important for me
to for him to have a person take you know,
(10:11):
this was important. It just was so. I mean, he's
really grown with it, but it's certainly I mean it's
something that there's things I do now on him that
I never thought I would. But you know, you grow
with it and you get a little more what I
didn't tell me, like what do you what have you done?
Like everything we feel full, the full shebang. I mean,
(10:33):
we definitely do everything on there. Um yeah, I said
getting fun in your ass because we already found that
out on don't cancel me. Your booty is not part
of the deal. It's no, it's not happening. Yeah, it's scary.
It's scary back there. It's okay though. It's okay though.
(10:56):
But I love the fact that he supports you. Um.
I love the fact that your children and you you
guys were such a mature you know, uh, you're a
mature family to come together and a united family to
come together and be like, look, we're gonna have this
conversation with you. You know, we're adults where your parents
were together, and um, we're gonna be doing this. Obviously,
you guys don't have to see it. I'm glad that
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it came from you and they didn't have to find out,
like you know, someone in school or something like that
that they could get bullied for or whatever the case
may be. Does your youngest truly comprehend what an only
fans is? No? No, I mean I think it's just
more of like a modeling thing, um and stuff like that. Yeah,
there's no, And I think it's still you know, he's twelve,
(11:38):
but he's very young at heart. Still, he's more like nine.
You know, he's there's some room there where he'll have
to you know, as he gets older, he'll understand more
and kind of what's going on. But you know, it's
kind of, Uh, it's weird because it's like it is
like a body positivit thing. It's like very hard because
you don't want to shame it. And the way you
come about it, it's like almost like when you hide
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it or you try to like no, no, no, no.
You know, it's it's almost like you're reinforcing that shame.
So it's been a really hard balance to really try
to make sure that I'm presenting it in a way
that you know, it doesn't come off that way. So it's, yeah,
it's a learning process. It's it's not easy. I mean,
I remember, imagine a lot of people in this industry
have this issue with children, especially when you have three boys.
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It's it's definitely talking about three boys. I know that
there's a lot of single mothers or there's a lot
of mothers overall period to listen to my podcast, and
a lot of them may feel so conscious about their bodies.
I'm not gonna lie, and I'm gonna be honest. Look,
I used to wait to thirty pounds. My body has
gone through a lot of you know, roller coasters. Sometimes
(12:41):
I'm fast, Sometimes I'm skinny. Sometimes I think I'm think
I don't know what's going on, like my body be
all over the place. Sometimes you seem me skinny, and
then sometimes all of a sudden thing, I just gained
like twenty pounds, so I have stretch marks, I have
selling light, I got dimples. My confidence is late because
no matter what, I can still get it. Period. I
can still take your and so don't play with me. However, however,
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you also have an amazing story when it comes to
your body transformation. You weren't always the girl that we
see today on only fans. At one point in life,
you were a little bit thicker, a little bit stronger.
Tell me about, um, you your confidence, how you were before,
and how only fans you know, helped your confidence. Yeah,
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I you know, I started. I had my first child eighteen,
and then I had another one in nineteen, and then
another one a couple of years later. So I mean
there was like all these years where there was like
this babyweight that just kept putting on, and of course
it was super difficult to get off. I'm only five four,
so wait, adds up, you know, really easily on me
in my height. Um so I had lost like a
hundred and twenty pounds back in my Yeah, and I
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was always, even in high school, kind of like a
thicker girl. Um back then you would call thick, you know,
early you know, late nineties. But now it's like it's
acceptable to be curlier and thick, you know, amongst women
at least men always liked us that way, but women
now are like, okay, I want a booty. But so
I think when I lost the weight, there was definitely
(14:08):
a shift in me. I mean, the things I could wear,
I felt cuter. I got attention that I never had before. Um,
my confidence went up. And I think my husband's seen
that too, And you know, it was like it was
happy for me because you know, to be so young
and have all these babies, those are like my prime
years and my body was like not the body of
a twenty year old, you know. Um, and that was depressing.
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So that really started a lot, and of course spiraling
into this, you know, especially what I'm doing now. You're right,
Like I remember thinking, who the hell would want to
see me? Make it like I have a mom body
in here, stretch marks tell you like the whole nine yards,
you know, like just in body, a real body, a
real body. Yes, it's like not it's not perfect and
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so um that's what I liked about Only fans though,
because that's kind of what they want, because let's be real,
they could get all the photoshop stuff on Insta and
everywhere else if they want to see the real thing.
And it feels more candid, and it feels more natural.
And so for me that was like wow, like this
is a real mean being put on there and people
like it, and that that was definitely a confidence booster
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people from being like a regular mom, regular nurse, regular life.
You know, I'm sure soccer or whatever sports in the weekends, right,
tell me to take me through the first time. Yes,
it's one thing. Listen, I'm not about taking sexy pictures
because you guys have already seen my Instagram and you
know I'm trying to evolve a little bit and cover
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it up two seconds. I'm eager to all the time
to be like, let me just show my ask one time.
But let me just show my ask one time. But
tell me and take me through the process of the
first time you actually decided to, you know, have sex
openly on only fans like that one time. Okay, look babe,
we're gonna do it. So all right, you know, just
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say like that send you know that that tell me
how it was for you to finally put up your
first video. Yeah, you know. Um so even to this day,
I think it's the most natural one. It's not like stage,
just definitely candid, so there's there's drinks involved because usually
you know, we'll go to dinner, have some drinks, you know,
(16:30):
you come home and it's kind of like, oh, let's
just pop the camera on the tripod and you you know,
and I think if you go into it thinking, well,
if we don't like, we don't got to post it,
you know what I mean, like, let's just film it.
We don't like it, we don't got to post it? Um?
And what is we don't like it? What does we
don't like it? Mean? What is it like a bad
sex video? I guess like for me, I would feel like, oh,
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you know, like as a girl, be like oh I
don't like that angle or I really chubby, or I
don't feel like I look cute or I don't know,
or like I look sloppy or whatever it might be.
If it looks like which is probably the good stuff, right,
all the good stuff what they want? Um. But I
mean at that point, you know, so I think the
first time we did and we watched it the next morning,
and of course I'm like, I can't even watch it
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like until this day. I'm like, just tell me if
it looks good, like I can't. I'm like I just
have like super embarrassed inside to watch myself. It's very
weird to get it. I've done I've done it, but
I've never posted it because then, like in the moment
when you're horning, like uh yeah, and then when you
watch it the next day is like, what the funk
(17:32):
was that? I don't want to turn it off? I
know sometimes I'm like, who is this bench? What has
happened here? But yeah, I think then we watched it
when you know, the next day we're like, that's pretty hot. Okay,
let's just let's just throw it out there. And then
people loved it and they wanted more of it, So
then it gets to be like, okay, let's make another one.
That was easy. Um. And so that's kind of how
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it first started to be honest. Yeah, so you went
from like how was your first your first? I mean, look,
I've never had an only fans. I've always been eager
to download it. I've watched it through like other people's phones. Um,
and then here I feel a little bit awkward because
I'm not gonna lie. I want to support you because
now after getting to know your story and after getting
to know you, I really actually like you like, she's
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such a sweet person away from what you may see
on her Only Fans, and she's sexy and noddy and
does all these great things. She's such a really nice person.
So how was your first week? Like your first week
on only fans? You went from doing like how much money?
To like how did it evolve? So? I had started,
I started this page, people were talking about it. I
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signed up. It was kind of a pain, and he
asked to be honest to sign up as a creator.
Almost I even made a comment to my husband like
I'm not I'm not doing this anymore, like I'm done
with trying this because you have to opo your I
D So I kind of actually created account and posted
anything on it. I told a few people in the
d M s. I went back in there like two
weeks later, and there was like forties subscribers. I was like, oh, ship,
people are like paying and I don't have any content
(18:57):
on there. So then I started posting our first month
we closed out, it's almost seven somewhere in there, like
seven thousand dollars and that was with maybe like eight picks.
And I was like, okay, alright, so this this is
real deal, Like let me post a little bit more
with some effort, and then it just kept going and going.
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You know. We we stayed around that seven to eight
grand mark for a couple of months and then it
was like fifty sixty now over three thousand dollars a month.
I mean, and this we just hit one year on
the ninth September, So that's all within a year, and
I mean it grew very very quickly, very quickly, hundred
thousand a month. How does your change? You know? It
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was its dramatic. I mean it's like I think, I mean,
I continue to work as a nurse until even when
I was making sixty seventy grand a month, and I remember,
looking back, I'm like, who the hell would do that?
But I never felt like the money was real. It
always felt like bullshit, like this is this can't be real?
And it just kept coming in. And of course then
I learned the platform and what makes you more money,
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and you know, making more videos obviously is where you
make a lot more money. And so it's like once
you figure that out, you're like, oh wow, like this
is a lot. And so I mean, for us, we
haven't splurged. We bought a new jeep and we're gonna
build a house. But other than that, like student loans
have been paid off, credit cards. It's just the basic ship.
You know, hockey got paid for. I mean, we haven't
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really splurged our checking accounts, just having gone zero to
a thousand because a lot of people and I personally
know some people that have created their only fans. They
studied getting a little bit of money and all of
a sudden, now you see them full of jewelry. You know,
they're driving expensive cards, and you know they're eating at
expensive restaurants every day and just you know, burning out
(20:47):
the money. Um. But you guys have said it to
invest and do things differently. You know. I am still
the girl. Like my husband laughs at me all the
time because I still am like checking the bill at
the restaurant. Oh we didn't order that, you know. I'm
like every time I still stop at TJ Max. Like
it's funny because like I know, I can buy these
things for myself. I could go and spend, but I
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love a good deal, and I just think, no matter what,
I'm always going to be the girl. Like it's funny.
Though I don't have a problem with the botox or
what I don't care about the bill for that because
that goes back into the business. But I think, like
for me, I don't. I don't foresee myself ever living
in a very flashy life. So we're definitely gonna have
a nice home for our family, um and that that
will probably be the biggest and most splurgeous thing we
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we do. I want a good, nice, beautiful content room.
There's stuff like that. But yeah, I think I think
I'm still gonna be that girl wearing flip flops, cut
off shorts and just very That is honestly me at
heart and so very humble. Yeah, yeah, you see that's
nice now talking about how much money you've made on
only fans and how basically this has um redirected your
(21:52):
whole career. How was it for you when Only Fans
for two seconds announced the they were going to start
taking away the sexual content out of only fans Because originally,
for those I mean, I know, only fans, to my understanding,
was just a platform where people could create exclusive content
for their fan base, whether it was like exclusive music
(22:13):
videos or exclusive videos whatever. Little by little, especially during
the pandemic, and started kind of like you know, changing waves,
and then it became a little bit more of a
sexual situation. UM, were you panicking like, oh my god,
my whole lifestyle, my whole money, and my whole everything
can like go down the drain right now. Well, what
was ironic is that news broke the same week that
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my story broken went virals, so obviously that it got
it was kind of like motherfucker, you know, right only
making the bank. It's like, okay, now you want to
shut down UM. But in my heart, honestly, what I
felt like when that occurred, and I did a lot
of interviews on this UM, people were reaching out because
they were like, oh, yeah, you make it all this money,
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but now it's going to go away, you know, all
this whatever. UM Only Fans doesn't have a search feature, Okay,
so it's not like people can go on there in
search and artists like, the cool thing is is everyone
that's on your Only Fans is there because you brought
them there. They came from your I G or Twitter
wherever else you're promoting. So I knew in my heart
there there for me, and they came there for me
so I could direct them somewhere else. And so I
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will tell you what that news that broke for me personally,
what I foresee is I definitely don't want to put
keep all my eggs in one basket with only fans UM.
I don't trust that there may not be something in
the future. So I'm going to mirror my only fans
on at least two other platforms, specifically, probably a platform
called I Fans and maybe fans Centro, and I'd like
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to just mirror them that way. You know, I have
the content everywhere, it'll all be the same. But that
was ultimately goal. I haven't put that in a place ship,
but that's honestly what I think you're gonna see a
lot of creators do because it was scary. I mean
some people that it could have put some girls back
on the streets. I mean, let's be real, they're making
a lot of money on there. UM I didn't, I
wouldn't have had that problem, but there are girls that
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that really really rely on that. You know what, I
want you to talk about it, and now I'm talking
about a more serious you know, the more serious aspect
of only fans um for those that may not know,
Only fans also gives a safer opportunity for girls who
feel sexually liberated, financially independent, make their money from home,
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from a studio, from whatever the case may be. But
a lot of these girls originally started off in the
streets and um, just in need of feeling like if
I can't make my money home doing what I'm doing now,
I might have to go back into the streets. Can
you talk a little bit about it, um, I don't.
I know that you're not from that side, but I'm
sure that you've heard and you've seen other girls that
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truly appreciate this platform because of the liberty it gives you. Yeah.
I mean, all you need is a cell phone and
internet and a data plan and you could literally make
you know, a six figure income. I mean you could,
you can do whatever. And I think that's huge because
if you were in this industry, you know, you have
girls who maybe worked in brothels out and the atta,
or on the streets or in strip clubs, maybe things
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that they never you know, that put them in harm's way,
and now you've given them an opportunity to be able
to to still make money. I also think about people
that you know don't have the luxury being able to
go to work period and doing this from home. These
are the stories that I've heard that people that have
come to me since my story broke. You know, they'll say,
please help me, like I need to, I need, I
need some kind of financial freedom, and um, that's terrible.
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I mean, all the fans should be happy that they
have thrided a platform like that, and so, you know,
they could have a lot of people would have been
in a bad situation real quick, for sure, sure, for sure,
for sure. And then here's another important part. I never
knew this two latest talking with you because I don't know.
I guess in my mind automatically assumed like, yeah, they're
(25:47):
making all this money from I'm thinking like a lot
of people do. And I know, don't judge being, don't
cancel me, but I'm just being exactly a lot of
and this is what it is. But I was just
thinking like, Okay, all these girls are making all this
money from only fans, blah bla bla blah blah. You know,
they don't got no expenses this and that talking to you,
I realized for those that are making like heavy money
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on only fans, not the ones that are beginning. And
you're taking like maybe two or three pictures and something
like that, but the ones that are really like into
this business full core. You guys do have expenses and
this goes from hair to makeup to wardrobe too everything else.
Tell me what it's what expenses look like for an
only fans girl. Yeah, I mean if you're if you're
a big time on this platform. I hate that my
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story makes us look a lot very easy to girls,
because let me tell you, to get to this level,
it is a business and you are one or maybe
two man show. Um, you know you have marketing expenses,
you have promoting expenses. You know you have like you said, wardrobe, hair,
you know, waxing, you've lighting, Um, there is some gym
memberships you gotta do. I mean, if you get botox,
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what are all the things that you know you do?
I mean it is there is a Crapton expenses and
a lot of it is you really should take your
income and you know that's just being an industry, entertainment
industry in general, and put it back into yourself and
like in terms of marketing yourself and promoting. And you
do have to do that, and that's very hard for
people in the beginning to to comprehend. Like what I
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gotta give up like twenty grand a month ago. And
you know, but that's what we spend. I mean, we
spend a lot of money a month putting back into
the business and so um, so many expenses that go
into it. It is not snap a pick, you're good.
It is like, well, lingerie, you know, you gotta buy
all you gotta keep it spicy, you gotta keep all
the things you know going, and so um. We have
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a crafton expenses. A lot in taxes. Let's not let's
not forget the tax talk about the taxes. Those that
may not know. Yes, you may be making a lot
of money on the only fans. Bet okay, guess why
you still gotta get that cartin and continue right back.
How much in taxes are we talking about? Just to
have an idea, Oh my gosh, okay, well, I'm this
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is my first year. So I in twenty twenty two.
I am terrified because I went from a bracket making
you know, maybe eighty nine gran a year two now
I'm making a hundreds of thousands a month. I can't
even imagine when my taxes give me. But I know
it's thirty seven percent, is what I hear. Now you
can write stuff off, so you know, I'll definitely have
someone to help me with that. But you're not. You're
not walking away through. You're gonna pay, you know, hundred
(28:19):
two or three hundred thousand dollars a year in taxes
like you just will. And that's it's hard that. That's
another reason I like Florida. I want to know, and
another already asked you, but I want to know what
is your un of view and how do you feel
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about prostitution becoming legalized? Because that was something that I
was thinking about, Like if for any instant white reason,
because this is still a sexual service, if for any
instant white reason, Um, you know, women had an opportunity
of having like a license or whatever and being illegalized.
You know, I I'm a prostitute or a woman that
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provides certain sexual services whatever. And then on top and
then the top of that, after they, after they, after
you did your gold all, you know what I'm saying,
beat up and stretched out and all these things. Now
I gotta pay you taxes for that too. How do
you feel about that? I hate the tax thing. I
think that's insane. I think taking any of anyone's income
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just because you make that's that is a problem. Like
the more money you make, the more they're gonna take.
And unfortunately it's like, but you work hard for that.
You know, nobody just has that handed to they They
get back to the community to fix the streets and
you know, provide certain services for the community. So I guess,
and yeah, I mean, I guess if your money is
going it is it's it's hard, It's that's a whole
another topic in itself. But I mean, I feel like
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in terms of the prostitution thing, you know, I never
want to hear I don't ever like the idea of
the government telling a woman what they can do with
their body, you know, and that if they want to.
You know, models make money off their body by pictures.
You know that it's very very er um and so
that kind of that part sucks. And so to say
legalized prostitutions will be wonderful if we could do that, um.
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But I do agree there has to be a safe way.
We can't, I mean, because there's you get the trafficking
that comes into play and stuff, and that stuff worries me.
So you don't want to make it easier for those
type of people. But at the same time, you know,
I like the idea license or registered or you know,
some kind of thing like that. I feel like if
there's a way to do it where it it definitely
is safe and um that and you can and you
can track these women down, because that's that's the most
(30:30):
important part. For example, being able to do it an
only fans. It provides you a safe space for you
to do it. Everybody knows you have to provide your
ide like there's you know, we can track you down. Um.
But for the girls that are out here in these
streets doing it, you know, they're afraid to tell anyone.
They're you know, they're afraid to talk about it with
their families, or they feel exchanged or whatever. You know,
they can get lost out here and then nobody would
ever even know. So definitely I think that that, you know,
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since we're still talking about you know, sexual services, Um,
I think that that would be great. Now here's another
thing that I'm thinking, because I'm was thinking as a businesswoman,
as an entrepreneur and all that good stuff. You were
trying to think of ways of making more money out
of this. So you're making all this money out of
only fans right now? Do you see yourself maybe perhaps
you know, growing into just the pornography industry and just
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like only fans could be part of it, But how
about just taking it a step further? Would you do it? Um?
I don't think so, because that to me doesn't seem
as UM, it's not really me. Like I feel like
what I like about only fans is it's my business,
my it's it's it's my life, and it's it's really
cool that you have control. You have that control, and
(31:37):
so I like that, and I like the non scripted.
I like the natural candid you know, that's that's definitely fun.
I foresee for me for my future, UM, definitely continuing
and entertainment in general, like not just the only fans.
You know, I have that always, But I like, um,
you know, I want to educate. I want to talk
to people. There's a lot of people reaching out to
me about helping them, you know, grow something from zero
(31:58):
to six you know quickly like that and giving my
tips and help people. So that's something that I have
great interest in. I love these open conversations like this.
This is stuff that I think needs to be talked about.
And that's why you know, I'm I definitely want to
have a part of that, and I feel like that's
where my sweet spot is going to be. I also
was thinking like, if you guys have been able to
(32:19):
create such an amazing team between your husband and yourself, UM,
and you've been able to figure out, you know, the
niche into being able to grow this brand, would you
be would you be open to creating some type of
business where you can help provide the same service and
maybe commission off other girls that are working on Only Fans. Yeah,
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you know that's what's Only Fans does have a referral program.
It's not the greatest program, but it is kind of
nice because, um, you know, you do earn a little
bit of commission off them, not not from the creator's earnings.
You know, you aren't. Only Fans gives you a portion
it so it doesn't cost the creator anything. UM. The
issue and that it's kind of nice because that means
my time to educate and help and train and mentor
(33:00):
those people is worth it. UM Because certainly at this point,
you know, you, when you get to this level, you
start charging for time and that's that's really what it
boils down to. UM. But I think, UM, in general,
I kind of want to do something off of that too,
Like you said, I really want to do some kind
of master series or training program that you know, I
could sell to someone and like have them under my
wing and do live you know, feeds and videos and
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one on ones and mentor shing. I want to be
under your wing. Listen, I don't have an only fans
because I'm scared. I'm scared about endorsements, my future. You know,
in this industry, of the entertainment industry, there's a lot
of things. I'm notna lie, I'm only but human, and
I've thought about it. I've seen other girls do it.
I'm like, ship, I could do it. I got titties
asking the dot two like, I could be sexy. I
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can try it, um. But then you know, there's this
there's this a stigma when it comes to having an
only fans where a lot of brands will be like, no,
you know, you're not good for our brand because you
have an only fans and da da da da. But
maybe if you did it on the low, because I
know that there's girls that use masks wigs. What have
you seen on only fans, Like what type of fetishes
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or what type of like freaky stuff or people into
an only fans. Yeah, there's a lot of That's what's
cool about all the fangs. You can make your business
whatever you want to be. There's people that don't show
their face that just do fee. You know that you
could do what you're comfortable with. Um I tell you,
I would consider myself a fairless shelter girl prior to
this um in this industry. And when I came on
here and the things people are asking, I literally thought
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they were jokes, some of them. And that's not to
be a disrespectful way, but they have to understand. Some
of this stuff is so foreign to me that it
was like wow, like that's a sexual thing for people,
But um, I have there's there's a lot like for
one I don't. We talked about one the other day
on your show and about these people that are turned
on by like sneezing and the anticipation of its coming.
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That was so rare to me and I actually like
I was researching the psychology of that ship like all night.
I was like, well, let me understand this, but break
it down. The anticipation of sneezing is like what to
be like why just the you know, they like to
watch the sneeze build up. The build up is very
important and the tissues reportant. I ask you what boogers
to like the snot and everything or no, that's another level,
(35:10):
like you know what they do that one I asked.
I asked these questions. I'm like, you know, do you
want to see the sneeze? I mean, I don't know
what you know? So, yeah, there's there's like all different
levels of it. Man. They're like very serious about it,
and it's such good money because especially the fetish world,
they know that, let's be real, they know there's it's
a little weird and it's hard to for them probably
to approach girls to ask these things, you know, and
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so when they find someone that's willing to do it
for them, they are loyal as hell um and I
love it. I never want my people to make them
feel like I think we use the word weird or
different like loosely, but I think even they know, like, yeah,
this isn't the norm, Like obviously not a lot of
people are running around, you know, getting turned on by sneezes.
But it's uh, they're very loyal you know, because they
(35:55):
you know, they build that connection with you. But I
love the fact that only fans let to be you know,
sex really free. It allows women like yourself to become
financially independent by finding a different source of income. Um,
you know, I am like judgment free zone. I'm just
a curious cat. I'm curious to know about all these
things because I feel that, like myself, there's a lot
of people that are curious but don't have anyone to ask,
(36:16):
and maybe are afraid to ask. If you had any
advice for any girl out there, and guys too, Let's
not think the only Fans is just for women. There
are men out here making a lot of money out
of only fans as well. If you had any advice
for some girl that maybe shy or scared or doesn't
know how to take her first step, but really wants
to get into only fans, what advice would you give her?
(36:38):
I would say, you know, start off with what you're
comfortable with. You may know, okay, if I post a
full frontal, I'm gonna get more money, But don't do that,
because the last thing you want to do is start
on this platform, make yourself feel like crap about yourself
and have all these regrets, and then you won't be successful.
It's okay if you start off and all you're comfortable
showing is maybe you're booty and a thong, like it
(36:58):
is what it is. And I think if you maintain,
you know, kind of let yourself build to what you're
comfortable with, that's important because this this industry can really
really mess with your psyche and it can build confidence
or it can really tear you down. And so I
think that's important to be okay with everything you do
and make sure everything you have you do do you
are willing to accept that that potentially could go public
(37:21):
because it's real, people will take your ship and that
that is a hard thing. You know, you to this day,
you know, there's certain things I don't do um on
only things that people have asked me to do. I'm
just not comfortable with it. I don't want to do
it um And yeah, sometimes it's like but I'll pay
you five grow and you're like, awesome, But I'm just
not comfortable doing that and I don't want that out
in the public. So I think just being real with
(37:43):
yourself about it, because it's definitely a psychologue. There's a
there's a psychological shift. You're gonna have when you started
only fans into where you become very successful on only fans. Okay,
so there you go. Those are the best tips right now.
You heard it from her. She's making three hundred thousand,
three d and sixty almost four hundred thousand dollars a month,
(38:05):
so she knows your ship. Oh, not to mention the
fact that also remember right, give those tips too. It's
not just about the content that you post. You also
have to get back into your business by getting a
marketing team, right you said, what else you need to have?
You you are going to be your own marketing team
until you're willing to hire out and delegate stuff. But yeah,
you you gotta. You have to be active on every
(38:26):
social you have to. You have to remember people can
get born anywhere for free. Why are they going to
play for it from you? Because they want to see you.
So you need to make sure you're building your brand,
your personality, you and that myself. That is more time
than only fans, just building that exposure and that's important,
very important, or you won't grow well most definitely, and
(38:47):
people want to follow you on your social media platforms
or download and subscribe to your only fans. Where can
they find you. Uh, you know, I always tell people
just to go to the alley raid dot com. I'm
gonna has it is a link tree there has all
my links to everywhere. But I'm your most platforms. I'm
the Ali ray A L L I E r A.
(39:08):
You already know I want to download. I don't even
have it on my phone. I really don't, but I
want to download and only fans just so that I
can support you. Because I know that you're doing great
things with this money, for your family, for yourself, and
you're an amazing woman. And I am inspired by your
work ethic and the way that you're making things happen
(39:28):
and inspiring other women as well. I love talking to
you guys every Thursday. Allie ray thank you so much
for joining us today. I have had so much fun
talking to you. I've learned so much and I'm really
considering opening my only fans if I call you on
the low, Hey, listen, I need to help me out.
You already know. By day I want to know from
(39:49):
my exact my exactly a Mada fans. Guys, would you
like to see me with an only fans? If I
had an only fans, would you guys subscribe. I just
want to know because like if I get a lot
of people say yes, oh my god, I think I
am I doing I think I am I doing it?
And also go check us out. All of our episodes
(40:11):
are available if you go to YouTube and write a
model Niger or Exactly a modest so you can re
enjoy these episodes. For more podcasts from my Heart, visit
the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you
listen to your favorite shows. You already know. I'll see
you guys next Thursday on Exactly I'm
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