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August 14, 2025 • 48 mins

This week on Eyes Up Here, Francine dives into the latest wrestling headlines, breaking down Bret Hart’s SummerSlam snub and whether his complaints are justified, Vince McMahon’s resurfacing on a Hulk Hogan special with pointed commentary on WWE’s creative following Hulk’s passing, and Nikki Bella’s bold move cutting off “prom poses” with fans at a meet and greet, which sparked online backlash. 

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Speaker 1 (00:55):
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Speaker 3 (01:00):
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So I got this here. I'm right there with I
love that. That's my that's my new one.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Are you referring to the YouTube comment section?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I whatever we're gonna call it, I am the King
of Questionable.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Okay, all right, Yeah, it seems about ninety eight percent
of everybody that replied went with me.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
They're so swayede it's not even funny. I mean, I
swear people, why I got.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm not threatening. I don't say anything.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
I just I mean, look, I get it in its
eyes up here with the Queen of Extreme Francine. She's amazing,
amazing Queen of Extreme Francine. But I'm nothing to shake
a stick at too, folks. Come on, yeah, I lost these.
I lost the poll for Samantha uh and Alicia whatever
her name was. I lost that one. I lost what

(01:57):
I lost everything.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
You lose every that you're in. Sorry, it's just a loser.
What can I say.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
It's all right, you know, I do what I can,
live to fight another day.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I appreciate everyone who sides with me though. I love
you all. You know that. But today is a new
day and we are going to cover the news, and
there is news a plenty this week. Now, we want
to start with a story. Then I don't know anything
about you mentioned it, So do you want to enlighten

(02:32):
me on the latest Vince McMahon stuff that's going on,
because I haven't seen anything besides the car accident.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, well, I mean really, it's that he's back, you
know again, while he's resurfaced. He resurfaced on the Hulk
Hogan documentary that TMZ put out this this current week
as we're recording, and you know, he had some things
to say about Hulk Hogan's life. You know, they reached
out to multiultiple people to comment on the legacy of

(03:02):
Hulk Hogan. Some people felt that, you know, This is
just one of those things. It's like, you know, tribute show, right,
But the big get was that they got Vince. Wwe
didn't have Vince, but Vince had some stuff to say.
So that's what the big news is this week is
that Vince is back in. Vince seems a little pissed

(03:22):
right now.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
So give me a quote what to say?

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Uh, well, you know, quote wise. I mean, I can
just give you some some summarization. We could play a
little video clip Vince Berry's Triple H's WWE Creative during
Hulk Hogan's documentary on TMZ. I can show you a clip.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Okay, so we'll run it.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, would you like see what he looks like?

Speaker 5 (03:46):
First?

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Sure, that's kind of like the first little reveal of
the return of Vince. And now this is also the
car crash Vince, So this is.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Kind of like probably before the car crash.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
This is Vince here. Oh no, this is after because
remember the car crash was the same day Hawk died.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Oh right, wow, So okay, so why does he look
He looks like he's gotten like eighty injections of botox. Yeah,
like it doesn't even look his face looks off to me.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
He's got like kissy lips, like he's got lips like
he get his lips done. He has to have like
he's got. Yeah, he's got the the weird eyebrow shape
where he's clearly getting botox in his uh, you know,
his brow area. Why why right, And he's getting something
done to his lips because he's got some sort of

(04:49):
lip filler here because he's got like purse lips, like
like okay, unless.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
He unless this picture was in like mid sentence where
he's saying something and his lips are just in that
position because he's about to I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
This is kind of like how he's positioned.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
So and a little touch of the gray on the top,
a little bit of a silver fox going on.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
A little bit. Yeah, lost the Clark Gable mustache, So
no more, Yeah, no more.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm all for and losing that mustache. That wasn't my
favorite thing.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
But yeah. Here's here's a clip Vince McMahon Berry's Triple
hs w W E Creative during Vince McMahon during Hulk
Hogan documentary on TMZ. So here we go. But here's
a clip from Tuesday night's show on Fox.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Speaker's larger than my superhero and you just let me
walk out there. He deserves something very very special, no
more than anyone they owe him. It's like, okay, here
it comes. I'm kind of angry because that's not the
way that I would have done it, and he deserved
it much more. Setting up, so to speak.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
So you follow what he's saying there. Yeah, so he
thinks the tribute that they gave Hulkster through Triple H's
vision was not worthy of what Hulk Hogan represented to
Vince McMahon in WWE. So in vincick Man's eyes, it
was not enough.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Okay, but he didn't really bury Triple H in that clip.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Like I said, this is what it's been framed as,
is that vincick Man buried Triple H is creative for
the Hulk Hogan tributes.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I don't see it that way, but oh.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I'm just telling you this is how it's being framed.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
So that's that's how you don't see it. That's you
as you the viewer, as me, the viewer that's taking
a shot at Triple H.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, I don't I don't know. Did he want like
a two hour tribute? I'm sorry, you're frozen.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I know, I know, I saw.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, I don't know if he it was done four
different times. They had four different tributes right on four
different shows. How much more did he want them to do?

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Well?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I saw the one from Raw and the one from SmackDown.
I thought it was very tasteful and well done. I
don't know. I mean, I'm sure there was something on
the website. What more did they want? What more does
he want?

Speaker 3 (07:52):
What was done?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Different?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
He's you know, he always referred to him as the
Babe Ruth of professional wrestling, So maybe he was thinking
about apps a whole show dedicated shut down, the whole
entire show.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I'm sure if you look on like the w W
Vault or one of the youtubes, don't they have anything
on there that's dedicated to Hogan? Oh?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, Oh absolutely.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I mean, I don't know, I don't get it. What more?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
How about this clip? I got another one? Vince McMahon
wasn't happy about not being invited to WWE for Hulk
Hogan's ten bell salute.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
So there wasn't even an invite for him.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
No invite?

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Well, I mean, do they still want to distance themselves
from him because he is still involved in the Janelle
Grant case.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Can't one would? One would think, Yeah, I mean can't.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Doesn't he realize like he's got a dark cloud over him,
and you know, maybe associating with him isn't the best
thing for WWE right now? Could you look at it
that way?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Let's look at it that way. Let me play this
slip for you. Let's see what he's got to say
about that.

Speaker 7 (09:24):
Hulk the ten bells salute. You have had such history
and such a deep friendship. You must be having such
mixed emotions that you weren't there to be part of that.
I just it really struck me that way.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Struck me that way as well.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, I mean honestly, like, I get what he's saying,
but I don't think it's it's in their as interests
to have him anywhere near there while this lawsuit's going on.

(10:07):
And he's a smart man, does he not realize.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
That he apparently? I think thinks it's time, And like
I've told you over and over, I think it's coming.
I think that it is coming.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
They better end all these accusations and things, because I'm
sorry if he's guilty and he gets found guilty, they're
not going to want him around the females in that
locker room, would you.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
No, not at all?

Speaker 1 (10:42):
I know common sense, Like.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Think about if we watch that on real show from
our last podcast and you put this guy that we're
watching here in that room, how do you think that
would all work out? You think they at this point
as we're seeing him, like you think, now, Vince, it's
been like the right move to remove him. Like he
does look considerably older, he looks considerably worn down. Like

(11:12):
do you think now maybe this was like the right
time that we don't see Vince around. Wwe look at.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
The numbers since Vince has left and the advancement in
certain talents and the product as a whole, it's doing
much better than it was under Vince's realm. I mean
you there was a shift as soon as Vince left

(11:39):
and Triple H took over. I feel there was a
shift for the better because Vince was so stuck in
his old ways and what he thought would get over
and the things that he wanted to do. And we
covered a lot of the things that Vince you know,
had the idea is that came out of his head

(12:01):
and some of them were like from the looney bin,
you know what I mean, Like some of those ideas
were just out in left field, and I feel like
Triple H now has brought the company into twenty twenty five,
and I just feel like bringing Vince back in the

(12:22):
thick of things would be several steps backward right for
them as a whole. I think his time has passed
as the leader in this day and age. I just
I think he's too old, and I just feel like
they have the right leadership right now and again, so

(12:43):
there's a lot of people who don't like the product.
I understand that, but if you compare it, you know,
the Vince McMahon to the Triple H era, I feel
like TRIPS has launched it. I mean, look at all
the new things that they're doing in the new partners
and the talent that Vince didn't like and didn't give

(13:06):
a chance to. But then you know, when Triple H
comes back, Oh what's called Triple H? You maybe I
can get a shot. Now, how many people have done that,
you know what I mean? Because they didn't like them.
So I just feel like he's what eighty years old? Yep,
It's it's time to just move on.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
It. Looks like it is. Now, how about this, This
was his last big quote. I'll read this one to you. Vincient.
Mann explains why hul Cogan was brought back to WWE
after racist comments surfaced. Okay, I knew he wasn't a rasist.
I've been with him for so many years. He wasn't
a racist. He said some racist things and he should

(13:49):
pay for that, and he did. But in the end,
I think everyone saw the real hal Cogan, Terry Bulla,
and they felt, wait a minute, this guy he doesn't
have I like a racist. He's not a racist. We
all make mistakes. That was a big one, but he
wasn't a racist.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
He must have said it racist A built twenty times
good lord. I don't know. I mean that one that
that's up to you if you think he was, if
you think he wasn't, I don't know. I'm looking at
the man for his work. I'm not looking at Terry Bully.
I'm looking at Hulk Hogan. And we covered this before.

(14:27):
I separated the man from the character, and I could
appreciate what the character did for wrestling and getting back
to uh, you know, you keep saying Vince is coming back.
The only thing I can see is maybe him as
a consultant. I can't see him running everything. I really can't.

(14:48):
I don't think that's ever gonna happen again.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, maybe I agree with that. I still I just
think in some capacity Vince McMahon will be back in
w W running it. I didn't say running it. I
just said I think he'll be back in some capacity.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Do you think his ego would let him just stay
on the sidelines and let Triple H run the show?
Like with you, you keep saying he's going to come back.
What is he going to come back and do? If
he's to be the chairman of the board, what's the
point of him even coming back.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, I don't know, but that's the thing. Like I
my my thought is that he comes back as they
honor the Vince McMahon legacy at the Hall of Fame,
and that's the swan song of Vince.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Okay, So you're not saying he comes back in a
in a role behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
But I'm just saying he's going to be back in
the like in the company. But you're saying if he's
back in the company, there's no way he's just Oh yeah,
I'm just here, tell me what my mark is and
I'll go out and count me down.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
There's the way you just said, hall of fame. So
that's the one and done.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
That'll be Yeah, well he'd be there, but he'd be
back in the company.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
That's not being back in the company. That's a one
and done.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
It could be he's not.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
There's what is he gonna come back for. That's what
I'm asking you. You have to have a logical explanation
to your your thought. And I'm telling you there's no
way that in the history of Vince McMahon being in
w w E, there's no way he's gonna come back
and let twenty people be ahead of him. He's not

(16:36):
just gonna sit there and let them control everything that
the Vince's ego won't let him do that. We've learned
about this man. And I'm not saying I know him
well because I don't. I've been in his presence maybe
five times my whole life, you know what I mean.
And I got want one hug, one very weird hug,

(16:57):
nice but weird. But you know, I don't see him
coming back ever. Maybe hall of Fame, Yeah, that's a
one night thing, you know. And then you come on
Raw the next night and he comes out to a
either a thunderous ovation or booze or whatever you want
to call it. But for them to have him back

(17:19):
in a role behind the scenes, do you think Chris
is stepping down? Do you think Tony Kahan is stepping down?
There's no way, there's no way that these people are
gonna be ahead of Vince. If he comes back, He's
not gonna let them well they have face. He's gonna like,
you're gonna tell me what to do face. I doubt it.

(17:42):
I would honestly bet money that it's never gonna happen.
Maybe the Hall of Fame, Maybe the Hall of Fame
after he dies. They're known to do that too, you know.
And then Stephanie and Shane could you know, be the
loving childre d and to accept the the.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Award this This is the kind of face that you
make when somebody's trying to crap on your head to that.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Can't you see them inducting him after he passes away?

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I could? Is it crazy that Vince McMahon outlived Hulk Hogan,
Roddy Piper, Macho Man, Randy Savage, the ultimate Warrior? You know,
like all these guys like and there's Vince McMahon still there,
pierced lips and all.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Well, you know, I just I don't know. It just
me on the outside looking in. I just feel like
they don't want anything to do with him as long
as this court case is happening, because if you read
the eighty three pages, there was some to sh in there.

(19:05):
So why would anyone be associated with him at this
time with this looming over him. That's just my opinion.
So now I don't see him coming back to the company.
Maybe a Hall of Fame induction down the line. I
think they'll do it when he dies so they don't
have to deal with them. But who knows.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
If he's proven innocent, then maybe they'll do it, but
I you know, I don't know. We'll have to wait
and see.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
I love to see a duel bill where Vince is
inducted and then on the bottom of that is you
and Shane. Yeah, okay, it's going to be called the
hell Froze Over induction and.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
We're all going to stand with our Hall of Fame
rings like this doing the punch pose. We're all ye fist. Yeah,
it's gonna be great. No, it's never gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
You know who he looks. And I might have sent
this picture to somebody who did think it was funny.
Do you ever see the Alice in Wonderland remake by
Disney from uh, you know, like ten years ago or something.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I just thought, well of the Queen of Hearts, Oh
has like these red pierced lips and these big exaggerated eyebrows.
That's what he looks like.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Hopefully, Okay, he's.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Got these like weird. It's the lips are I think
would throw me off. Like he was a.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Good looking guy back in the day. You know, Vince
was a nice looking man, a nice looking gentleman. We
all know. I love me some Shane o' mack like
he is, and he looks like his dad, I think.
So hopefully she stays away from the botox because I

(20:50):
don't know why. I mean, I cannot confirm nor deny.
It looks to me like he's had work done on
his face, But who knows.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Shane's gracefully, you know, he's wonderful. Yeah, he's aged very well.
You know, he's rocked the white hair for a pretty
long time.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, And let me just say one thing. It pisses
me off because men can have a full head of
white hair and look absolutely gorgeous, but if a woman
has a strand, God, forbit, she looks like she's ninety
seven years old. I can't take it menerally out to

(21:28):
have that gray, but women cannot.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
It's not acceptable, but it's become rather popular with younger
women letting their whole head go gray, at least from
what I've seen, you know, in here in the world
of you know, the thirty something moms and dads and
the sports world going to the sports games, and we

(21:51):
sit there and we go, why are they they're all gray?
And it's like you could see they're not old, but
they just they they don't care anymore. And it's like,
you know what, your old buddy, the chad sir, he cares.
I care. I don't mind here like I you know,
I'll touch this thing up, but this ain't I'm not

(22:13):
letting this thing go neither. This guy died me.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
I have to die. My poor husband has to deal
with the gray. As walking around the house with my
butt in my hair, I'm like, yeah, when I have
a signing, I'll diet. But I use that spray too.
I have that, you know, the root touch up stuff,
and that works well too. But it's not acceptable anymore
for a female to be gray, you know, I don't know.

(22:43):
I mean maybe for a thirty year old whatever. But
if I showed up at a signing with great partly
gray like Vince was, oh.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
My god, I'd be they throw rocks at me. Get
out of here, woman terribly. Oh my god, it's terrible.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Anyway, enough of the vic enough of the Vince stuff.
Let's move on, because we spent a lot of time
on him. So Brett Hart is at it again. God
bless Brett Hart. Brett is saying that he got snubbed
by WWE at SummerSlam.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
I did, right, He says.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
He finally realized they don't appreciate me, and he's really
upset about it. You know, here's his quote. He says,
I went to SummerSlam. They invited me down this year
for WWE, and they told me they wanted me to
be in the crowd. Then they told me once I
got there that they didn't have any seats. But I

(23:46):
noticed that Kevin Nash got a seat, so I just
sort of know I don't feel that WWE. I mean,
I finally realized that they don't fully appreciate me, even
after Hulk's passing, that there's no appreciateiation for anything that
I've done. So, you know, first of all, how can

(24:10):
they invite him and have a stadium with sixty thousand
people and not have a seat for him? Where was
Where was he supposed to go? Because when they invite
you to these things and they want you to sit
in the crowd. I know this firsthand because I did
it for NXT. They made room for me, and I

(24:33):
don't know if they kicked somebody out of the front
row seat and made me sit there, because I went
right before the last match, so it wasn't like I
was in the crowd for the whole show. I sat
in the back and then they bring you out, And
I'm assuming maybe they did the same thing because they
don't want fans bothering him for you know, thirty or
three hours or whatever it was. But if you invite

(24:55):
somebody and you know we have twelve superstars coming, don't
you think there should be twelve chair is available?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, so I.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Do get what Brett's saying. I don't know why he
threw Kevin Nash into this. I mean, poor Kevin, Well,
what do you think he got a chair? Oh?

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Because because he's Triple Boy, that's why.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Well, I'm telling you a lot of people have been commenting,
and one of the people was big Vito Lagrosso. Now,
well we all know Vito. We love Vito, I love Vito,
I've worked with Vito. Vito went on his ig and
he said, in caps enough, how long can we hear you?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Bitch?

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Oh that's all I do. Now, you were looked up
to as a great wrestler, technician, the guy I modeled
by wrestling after I was so proud to wrestle you,
being the same company as you. But all you do
is complain. All you do is bitch blah blah blah.
And he just went on to bury him. I'm not
going to read the whole thing, so, you know, is

(26:00):
basically calling Brett Hart out. And a lot of people
are saying that Brett has just become this old, whiny
old timer who was just bitter about the business, bitter
about everything and everyone in it. You know, But I
do see his point.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
I do too.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Where's the what was he standing? Was he supposed to stand.
I don't even remember. Did we even see him there was?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, I didn't see him get introduced.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
He should have had a chair. I mean, I get it,
I understand that, but go to somebody in the back
and say, hey, where am I supposed to sit?

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Was Nash introduced?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
I don't remember. The only people I really remember seeing
were the Dudley's. I remember parties.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Uh, I don't even.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Remember who else was shown.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
So I don't know, all right, And I mean, you know,
back to what you said about yourself, you were in
a spot, but they also had Did they have a
couple other people in the crowd that night too, or
was it.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Just you know, I don't think it might have been
just me because.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Go ahead, no, no, go ahead, Oh no, I was
gonna say.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think everybody else that was there had spots on
the show, so I think I might have been the
only one.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Well, so you see how they do when they scan
the crowd, right, they line the guys up, one next
to the other, next to the other, and they like
show them and they show a picture of them from
their career, so it gives them time to put the
camera in the next position on the next person, Right,
so are we to assume that there was supposed to
be a segment where they went over the legends of

(27:50):
SummerSlam and Brett was just gonna sit in a chair
next to Kevin Nash or next to Sean Waltman or
something like that. Like, so that's where we're not getting
the next part of the story, where like veto which
you know, I'm I've had like maybe one interaction with
Vito in my time in the podcasting world. Brett can

(28:12):
say whatever Brett wants to say as far as I'm concerned,
because he's Brett Hart, and anything that he says to
me is productive because he's he's got a I think
he's got a great opinion, And of course he's gonna
feel slighted by WWE because of who's on the top.

(28:32):
He's done nothing but kill Triple H. So of course
he's gonna say, oh, I feel slighted by Triple H
because he's done nothing but very Triple H when he's
out there doing media, right, So that's why it's like,
it's just it's something just to keep the fire going.
So I think Vito just kind of took the bait here.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
In my opinion, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
I don't know. I mean, I love Vito. He's a friend,
you know.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
He's very passionate. He's got that it's all five he does.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
He's got that Italian blood boiling in his veins. I
just I read it and I was like, WHOA, tell
us how you really feel, brother, you know.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
But to veto side that then gets fanned sometimes annoyed.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
At him, and then it take it both ways. Some
people were saying, oh, brother, you hit the nail on
the head a hundred percent. He's a cry baby bla
blah blah. And then other people are like, he's Brett
freaking hard, right, have some respect.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Like yeah, exactly, you know, yeah, And then they say
kind of, you know, disparaging things about his career, which
I don't like to read that stuff either, because Vito
had a great career in his own right. So it's
it's a double edged sword. So when guys comment in
that regard, it's tough because it can be taken in

(29:50):
a lot of different ways. But when I see Brett
and Brett wants to say something like that, I say
take it and run with it, because it's Brett Hart.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, I I understand, you know, not having somewhere to sit.
I don't what was the point of him being there
then if there's no if there's nowhere for him to go, Like,
I don't, I don't know what the plan was. You know,
usually you go in the crowd, you have a seat.
You mean to tell me they could not find a

(30:20):
folding chair with sixty thousand people, just.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
I mean there was a ton of empty seats towards
the top. Go put them up there then.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Or bring it, I mean, bring a chair from the
back out and just put it on the end of
the row, or.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
To get pull it from underneath the ring.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
I mean, really, I don't know. Or how about you
let him walk out? How about you introduce him as
a legend and let him walk out and wave at
people or something. I mean, I don't know. I'm just
trying to wrap my head around this whole thing. If
you're invited somewhere, there should be accommodations. So I do
understand what Brett is saying, But I do also know

(31:01):
that he has been saying a lot lately about a
lot of different things. So you know, take it as
you wish, like you.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Said, heart, But I that's actually a great point that
you make right there, because when do you ever just
see them introduce Brett Hart for the sake of it
being Brett Hart. You know, we see Undertaker come out,
we see Shawn Michaels come out, we saw the Haltzer
come out. We'd never just see where's Brett? And Brett
carried them during that. But again it's because of who

(31:33):
is at the top.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well, you would think if he buries them so much,
why did he even get an invite.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Because there's nobody left.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
I hate saying there's plenty of people laugh, but not
at that tier.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
That's the thing. Like, now we're in the tier territory, right,
you got your flair, and flair is like in a
weird gray area because of all the aw it goes.
I don't know, I think he's still on her aw
you contract in a way. But like, okay, they got Undertaker, right,
they got Shawn Michaels. They're they're kind of like work
for them still. Now with Hogan gone, I mean, Brett

(32:13):
is the next guy. There's everybody's gone.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Well you have the new generation.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
That's Brett though Brett is the Brett Nash right, then
it's Undertaker Sean and then it's the two thousands, it's
card Angle, you know, it's Jericho, right, I mean the
guys Hogan and before they're gone. It sucks. Yeah, I

(32:42):
never thought I would see that day.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, strange. I don't know. I just thought, you know,
are we starting a war? Asnito calling Brett out? Are
we going to start a war here? I thought it
was kind of interesting. So I don't know, you couldn't.
I see both both sides to it, picture side, I
don't know, I feel you all right, Uh, next story,

(33:09):
there's one more? Which one are we going with?

Speaker 3 (33:11):
We are gonna go with a little uh oh you
have it kind of kind of updating the story we
talked about on a flashback episode, but it's new, new
subjects involved.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
We covered uh before we covered a story where it
was Mickey James and uh a gentleman that I actually
just met at wrestle Khan.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
He came up to me and was like, I'm the
guy and I was like hey, And he saw the video.
It was that the prom picture pose and he got
a lot of backlash for it. And you know, we
did a whole thing and I'll stick by my word.
If talent's okay with it. I I think it's fine.
I've done that pose, I've probably I've done that post

(34:05):
so many times and I always go, oh, it's our
prom and I laugh about it. The guy is paying you,
if you're comfortable with it, I don't see a problem.
But here we are again talking about it because now
Nikki Bella took a prom picture apparently yep, and got
backlash for it. But there's more to this because now

(34:29):
you say there's a video which I have not seen,
So maybe the video adds something. All I saw was
the picture and again, that picture I've done. I've done it.
I know other talent has done it. It's not a
big deal to me. If that's what the guy wants

(34:50):
and he's paying us the money, what is the big deal? Again?
I get infuriated with this kind of stuff, like who
can airs? But let me see this video?

Speaker 3 (35:03):
All right? So this is video taken by the jail.
It's like a you know, video taken from the signing
and then he came home, edited it put it on Instagram.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Okay, I mean, I gotta tip the old cap.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Rooney did a pretty damn good job of the edit.
So here's the video. First, and then we'll go from there.

Speaker 8 (35:21):
All right. Then I was telling Nikki how much she
inspired me. Then I gave her the roses and telling her,

(35:47):
you know, it's so much to me. And then that's
what I decided to ask you.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
And that's how we got the picture together.

Speaker 8 (36:11):
After the picture was taken, we shook hands and we
helped each other, and I told her, thank you so
much for the.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Aspiration give me. He's twenty one, he said, right, okay.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Okay, So there that's the video that he put up.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I see nothing wrong with that video. There's nothing wrong
with that video. It's not cringe. It's not cringe. Like
you said, why because she can't handle some comments?

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Oh there was comments.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
There were comments on the Mickey one too.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Oh, it was a lot of comments. So my first
thing was, I just I felt the whole video was
very cringey.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
I don't know why, Why is it cringey?

Speaker 3 (37:04):
I just feel like we just see so much now.
I mean it just if that was such a deep moment,
why do we need to see it like that? That
was just if it meant so much to you as
a person, like keep it to yourself. Then I didn't
know that, like I didn't again it maybe sold fashioned
me old man yelling at the cloud. You opened yourself

(37:28):
up for backlash and the comments that followed.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Okay, well, I agree with that. By posting anything, you're
being vulnerable and you're opening up to a world of
different opinions. I get it. But here's a kid who
is basically kind of in love with Nikki Bella. He
gets to meet one of his idols and asked, politely,

(37:58):
can we do this prom you know, like a prom picture?
And then it all goes to ship because people again
have to put their noses into it, and and what
make fun of the kid?

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Here's okay, I'll give you a little more context.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Can you give me some of the comments?

Speaker 6 (38:20):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (38:20):
The comments? Let me see if I can pull them
up through here.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Uh a bunch of jealous people to me? I mean,
I again, I don't see anything wrong with this. I
feel bad for that kid. And why why is Nicki
changing her tune? What was the quote from Nicki?

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Hold on? Let me what do you want first? The comments? Well,
comments are getting getting cut off because I gotta log
in on.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
All right, don't all right? Give me the quote from Nicki?

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Nicky says, uh, she spoke about the viral meat greet.
She said she admitted I do feel like from now
on there's going to have to be a no prompose
rule after this photo. She explained that the fan wasn't random,
he had an incredible story and asked very politely about

(39:14):
doing the photo. She had done similar poses before and
felt no discomfort, saying she didn't feel anything wasn't She
never felt anything was inappropriate. She didn't feel like what
the photo looks like, okay, people were commenting that his
posture was a little inappropriate, She didn't feel that way.

(39:38):
She points out, it's visibly misunderstanding in the image. My
pants are baggy. You know, sometimes photos get distorted. I
honestly feel like that's what happened. NICKI made it clear
she would have reported any real issue, stating I would
be honest and I would literally go straight to my
rep saying that there was anything inappropriate. Uh okay. So

(40:02):
basically I think people were joking that he had a boner.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Okay. So so with that in mind, I can now
see why, Nicky, we'll say no more pictures like this. Now.
I get it, because you don't want put up the
picture again. Yeah, let me see it.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Let me get back to it. Uh, it's kind of
cut off here because we have the quote, right, but
you get the idea from where he's standing.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, I see, I can't see. I know.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Let me see while we're talking, because that's the one
with the quote.

Speaker 6 (40:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
So it seems to me without reading the comments, but
you what you just said, it puts her here.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
It is here. It is Oh yeah, look at that.
Look at him. He looks like he's humping her. Look
at his hips, like he's pointing out.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Her ass is sticking out.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
You think it's her ass. I think it's his hips.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
No, she's She's got a nice ass, her butt sticking out.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
So it's the natural.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
She's just straight up and down to me.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
I think it's the way his body is tilted up.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I don't think this kid did anything wrong. I really don't.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
I think that he needs to keep his pictures to himself.
This is what happens when you share all your shit
on social media. Listen to yourself.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
He was excited to meet her, good, then tell your
friends and family. He didn't have to keep it to himself.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Except if you meet Francy and share it on social
media and tag guys up here.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
If this became a whole sexual thing, then I understand
what Nikki's saying. I thought it was just like they
were making fun of the picture, and she was just like,
that's it. I'm not going to do it anymore. But
if it had like a sexual thing going on, you
don't want to deal with that. I get it. You know,
like when again, when fans ask me, can I take

(42:01):
a picture? Nine times the out of ten, they'll say,
is it okay? If I put my hand here? Can
I put my hand here? You know? I'll say, sure,
you can put your hand where, you know, just don't
don't put it on my boobs or my butt or
be appropriate. And it's fine. And I've done that picture

(42:21):
posed so many times and I've never had any problems
with it. So now I've seen it done twice. And
then there's you know, two big problems. The first one
with Mickey people were making fun of the kid, and
now with this one they're saying he's got a hard one.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Somebody I'm reading some of the problems, somebody called them
a simp. In this one comic, you can't.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
See his boners Jenna Talia.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
This one says that's so weird.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Why because it's a prom post putting.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
A picture of John Cena going life.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
I don't know. If she felt uncomfortable, then she shouldn't
have did it. That's it, you know what I mean.
He brought her flowers, he had a note for her.
He was very sweet, seemed like a very very genuine kid.
He's a kid. He's a twenty one year old kid.
She's what like forty.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
What's the notes saying she could be his mother?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
I don't know. I thought it was sweet. I like
when fans come and say that kind of stuff. It's
very sweet.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
I want to know what the note says.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Well, you're never going to know what the note says.
Probably thank you for getting me through rough times or
whatever it said. Who cares, it's between the two of them.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
This one comment already he looked and he touched.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
People are such assholes? Serious?

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Another comment is a John Cena Jeff going like this.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
I don't know, I just feel like it. I guess
it put her in a weird spot because now with
the the comments saying like the sexual comments, because that
wasn't the way it was with Mickey James. It was

(44:15):
more so they were making fun of the guy, right,
And it.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Was also that Mickey's face was like and Mickey had
to explain that at that time, it was like the
end of the weekend and like everybody was exhausted, and
like she had she had to explain why her face
was just like a not like a grimace, but like
it just kind of exasperated, like a.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Like one who looks happy as Helen in this picture.
I mean, you know, I don't know. God, we'm alone.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
How about this one? How about this prop picture?

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Wow? Wow? Okay, great, I don't know. I mean again,
you're paying. As long as as uncomfortable with it, I
do it. I don't care if I don't like it,
I am now I'm not going to do that. Sorry,

(45:18):
whatever whatever. I wonder if WWE management told her to
be like, yeah, no more prom pictures, like they're pr people.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
You wonder if I wonder if Vince was online, You're like,
I was gonna get a prom picture with Nikki.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Vince was in the line and then he saw the
bag last night he left he did.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Sim imagine Vince starts going to meet and greats oh.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
God, out of control. All right, you have anything to
plug I think we're done here.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Uh, stay tuned to our YouTube channel. That's all I'm plugging.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, there's off coming.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Up, tons of stuff on YouTube and big stuff, big
stay tuned to the end of every video, please Okay.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
August twenty third, six pm Eastern Standard Time, myself and
the Todd Father, Todd Gordon, the founder of ECW, we
are going to be doing a virtual together for Captain's
Corner and I, you know, I can't remember do they
just go to the captain Captain's Corner Facebook page.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
They can go to captain page it is. Yeah, I
think that's where he's got it. Yeah, and they that's
where they can get involved in the chat.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
And yeah, we're gonna have eight x tens. We're gonna
have some uh figures and maybe some ring worns. I
don't know. I'll see what I have and I'll bring
them all and we'll have a bunch of stuff for you. So, uh,
I'll have more information on my page and as it
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(47:01):
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(47:23):
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