September 18, 2025 • 43 mins
On this Eyes Up Here Flashback, Francine rewinds the clock for a classic sit-down with The Franchise Shane Douglas. In this candid conversation, Shane reflects on his unforgettable run in ECW, shares his thoughts on WWE and AEW today, and gives an inside look at his current projects — plus what’s next for one of wrestling’s most outspoken legends.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
H h h m. This is my wait episode year old?
(00:34):
I see I see a Kate, Oh, I see a
dirty finger? You get come on, man with those arfreidst
Shriven hands, get in the shot.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Wasn't you this is my partner?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Why that is back?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Seeing you miss me so much that you had to
come back? Who wasn't look to me with me every
day this weekend?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Good lord?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
My friend? I am egg exhausted.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Do you not feel like we fluted Japan twice?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
One weekend?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah? Two and a half times.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And I'm telling you, I don't know if it's because
we're old or what, but I feel like like I
slept pretty good last night, but I feel like I'm
still not caught up on sleep.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I don't know. I don't think third nine is very old.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It's just oh, okay, how would you sum up the weekend?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Long? Long? I tell you I've known Tracy Uh that
does that show and uh since he started it, and
he's a great guy. And he puts a lot of
time and money into that to raise money for toys
thoughts yep, and you know, gives a lot of kids
down there a Christmas Day party would otherwise have so, like,
(01:49):
you know, the complaining that we do because there's rush here,
rush there. I mean, in the overall scheme of things,
not too bad. So thanks thanks for Tracy out there.
Great job.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Absolutely A question for you.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Do you feel like a kid sitting in that hotel
room with all the impact kids? Did it bring you
back to the nineties when we were the when we
were them, when we were the young one?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I don't know. I uh, I don't think we were
that loud.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We weren't they were.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, that's what I mean. It's like back then. I mean,
uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We couldn't even hear each other talking.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It was the four of us, you and your friend
Betty and Brian. Of course, uh, of course did have
a great time, and so people came and got a
little bit louder and fetes more. A little few more
people a little bit louder. And I don't let you
saw Chris's face when you walked in. He he walked in,
me back out because we left.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Wait, so the moose took an early exit.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, I don't think drink.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
No, he didn't drink. Excuse me one second.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Dan le Lemony four ninety ninety try emails should be
sent if.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You picked them someone else.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Dan, that's very I guess Christy has five in Chris.
Christy is the only one else who put it into.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Charles chip Jar. So thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, I had a nice time.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I was looking around the room and I was just
I was seeing everybody interact with something. I was literally
getting flashbacks to when we were that age, and I
felt like an old lady sitting there. But they were
so nice. They were talking to us and including.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Up and everything, and yeah, a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I don't know for those of you that sucked down
too much of that particular drink that we shayn't message time.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I didn't know, you know, I thought you did shots
of moonshine and then like the next day we're all
there and we're just like we're sitting there when.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You didn't do it shot Betty poured you if that
was the glass to you that much?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
No, I was gulping it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And Heath Slater or Heath as He said, you're suppose
to sip it with ice, Like that's what you do.
You sit on your porch in your rocket chair and
you just sip it with some ice.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And I didn't know. I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It's like a fine brandy, it's moine.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It kicked my ass.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I went. I left that room at two am, and
I woke up at four with the spins.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Terrible feeling.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Then I was up by six o'clock and I was
just like, well, screw this, I as well get ready.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So but a fun weekend.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah again.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
They had Shane five miles away from me.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So I grabbed them, brought him over to my table
and made them sit with me and.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Ate promoters out there. She and I finger again. She
and I used to work together quite a bit and
probably should be together, sitting at consignings and conventions and
well mire wrestling shows in too.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You might as well, I mean, why don't you book
him and then book me to manage somebody else?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
That would be perfect? Were you guys?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Were you guys like nine hundred miles away?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Again?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, I had to ground well.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
The first night he was across from me, like I
was looking, and he was looking at me, and we
were looking at each other, and I got up.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I said, just come on over because they had him
signing with Jimmy Hart.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah. I love Jimmy, but no reason Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Hart, like, come on, I had nobody next to me,
no reason, so I pulled his ass over And then
the next day I said, get over here. And because
it just makes the time go by better when you
have a buddy with you.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
When you laugh like two morons like we do, it
just makes it fun for me.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So I you know, I always have fun with you,
but I had a good time.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
It was.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It was a fun weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Oh, Angela is so cute. She said, you can't separate
a king from this queen.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh right, Oh what.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I want to take a bite of some margarine. What
there's a whole lot of young people watching us right now?
What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Dang, know what that means?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Line five dollars, super chat high fabulous sprint scene Chad
and franchise, Shane, how would you describe your time in XPW?
Thank you to all and keep up the great work
your fan line, thank you? Line You're going in the
Geral strip Joark, Shane.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You want to answer that question?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, you know, I thought we had a real chance
to do something there. It provided everything as was laid
out to me, as I laid it out, as you know,
requirements for me to come there. Uh. We we were
slowly going with Paul had done early on, you know,
whittling through the talent and elevating some and getting rid
of some and bring remember Candido coming in and uh
(06:38):
Sabo at one point, and you know, we really were
going heading in the right direction and kill it until
it stopcorn in the right direction. And the excuse that
I was given was our taped exer down. And I said, wait,
you run a company that sells porno flicks that quite
(06:58):
a few and gets sold everywhere, and you don't have
a single backup. You don't have a mechanic, a guy
you calls, hey, the text are down. And it was
then that I had some friends sending me what they
were putting on. And the one that there were a
lot of instances, but the one that set me over
the edge was we PJ and I were working at
(07:19):
Angle and he had done this phenomenal promo in like
a broom clause, like real tight end. Mine my promo
needed to come after because it was responding to what
he said, and that particular show mine that made no
sense at that point opened up the show and you know,
(07:40):
and it was just that kind of stuff like, and
I tried to explain to Rob Black at the time.
You know, nobody is saying, right now, Rob Black fucked up,
or somebody that works for Rob Black, they're saying I
fucked up because my name's on it as the booker,
and and so I just sort of did, like what
I usually do this, I see you him on back
(08:02):
to the berg right right? But is the place for me?
That was one of the songs Frandy was singing all weekend.
I sing.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
We could have figured out the words. So I brought
up the lyrics and I sanctioned the whole Green Acres.
He was sitting there like this listening.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
She had the footstorms down and everything.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
So your time that was there, Ago, was it enjoyable
for you?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I mean not really. I mean it was being back
in the ring. It was great, and a lot of
the guys were like Funk was in, and Candido was in,
and you know, Cody Michaels of course was there. So yeah,
I mean I had some fun with it, but it's, uh,
you know, the whole debacle of the habitarry in his
arm at the end there, you know, it just it
(08:56):
was just too much. It was just becoming a like
a joke of itself. And then when I found out
that he had started dabbling the porno into it, that
was a break deal to me that I'm not everybody
else likes to look at stuff, know, And then but
uh no, you know, it had to be kept separate
because that was the low hanging fruit of criticism that
(09:17):
the ECW fans were leveling against it, and they were right.
I mean, there's no reason for those two things to
be connected until done, woven into the storylines or whatever,
and not in a pornographic way.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
It was like how ECW used to go to the
T shirt commercials, you know, in between the breaks, they
would go to like like a two minute you know,
slow jazz music style, you know, topless girl everywhere montage.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So it was kind of like what w e W did.
See I worked.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I worked for a women's promotion when ECW folded was
WEW Women's Extreme Wrestling, right, And the only way we
can get on pay per view is if porn was involved.
You had half the locker room who was legit workers,
and then you had your porn girls. And guess who
was the genius of this. It was Steve Carroll. Carrol
(10:10):
is the one that got us on pay per view.
But if the porn wasn't intertwined, then we wanted to
know how to show. So they used to call me
to do voiceovers, right, so I'd be.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Sitting there and it would be a match, and.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I go, let's transition now to a lovely Jade and Sarah.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
They want to.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Try out for w E W do they have what
it takes? Let's go to the footage and.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
The girl in bed and there nothing to do with
it though it was just a porn scene. But we
you know, that was the way we kind of we said,
everybody was trying out to be on the roster.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So stupid just gra cut the porno, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And I hated it, but if we didn't have it,
then we lost our pay per view spot. So it
was it was just ridiculous. Somebody had said, was I
ever asked to go? And I was.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Rob Black had called.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And he had pitched because you were with Lizzie, so
he had.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Pitched that I go with him.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yes, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I said.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I remember, I said, well, I've never seen the product,
and he goes, oh, I'll send you some DVDs, And
I said, oh, I don't even have a DVD player.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
He sent me a DVD player.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
He did.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It was very nice of him, and I always put
him over for that.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It was true. I've got no problems with Rob. I mean,
he's a good guy. But you know, ultimately, when you're
running any kind of company or business, uh, whoever the
boss is, whoever's making the final decision, you got to
follow that or you can fire that guy and do
whatever you want. And you know, it just and the
whole thing with the tape decks went on for like
a month, right like, Oh, can't get him fixed. I
(11:54):
tape mix Cadine dubs. I was like, okay, guys.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, and that was that was the last of it
right there. Yeah, wow, crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
It had such like I mean, it had that.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
You know, they wanted you to think, Okay, this is
the second coming of ECW.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Now the DCW is gone.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Like this was the players were there, the key people
were in place, but it just seemed like there was
something that was missing. And then I think when you
stepped away, it really lost its identity. And you know,
what's what's remembered about it now, they really remember everybody
talks about New Jack throwing vic grimes you know, off
the scaffold more than any angle that that ever took place.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Right, you know, it's you know, again ultimately his company, right,
he's the guy spending the money. So how the grown
ups do it is they say, for any I like
your work, but we're going in other direction, So we're
gonna go with Chad or whatever. It just belabored the
point and then like the whole thing of what they
(12:54):
were saying to try to set up the excuse, Uh,
we don't have the tape texts at work. And this
went on and on and on. You know, I just
as I recall when I left, it was there was
no like argument or heat or anything. I just said, okay,
you know, take you off, guys, I'm done, you know,
and that was it, you know, it was uh. And
the shame of it is look the reason you know,
(13:15):
forever we out to listening to figuring like why couldn't
we have done this or that, you know, and mix
them together. The whole fiasco between XPW and ECW. After
I'd left, that was weighing on a lot of the
ECW fans minds. If we were as good or close
to ECW those fans would have still said at AECW right,
(13:39):
So we really had to get into that ultra vein
of being ECW consistently week after week after week in
the houses on the TV show, and then at some
point down the road we might have been able to
introduce something like that that the fans then probably would
have gravitated to. But because that was the big slam
at the beginning, those two things had to be kept.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Was the company done after you left? Or did it like,
did they do a couple more things and.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Then they wanted for a short while, I think, yeah, yeah,
I think they put down to kmart and but one
then yeah, so it's uh yeah, after I had left,
and I forget how long it was, but that was
when Rob and Lizzie had gotten in trouble with the government.
(14:30):
And I'll put some two cents heter on this. It
was BS right. The Supreme Court is steadfastly held that pornography,
you know, done properly and everything is legal's first Amendment.
And what happened there was his company had sent porno
to some guy in California, Pennsylvania, which is about an
(14:51):
hour from me, an hour and a half, and who
knew California, PA has some of the most string an
anti pornography laws. So the her name was Mary Beth Buchanan,
I think who was the uh uh not the attorney
general of the US Attorney here in Pittsburgh, and she
(15:13):
went after him. She went after Tommy Chong, uh yeah,
threatened to put his son in prison, and of course
Tommy Cheng didn't know take me. And she went for
these sort of high profile cases like that. The best
was when she tried to run for the Senate and
got her ass handed to her. Uh yeah. And I
(15:35):
think what happened to Robin and Lizzie was was bullshit.
You know. It's uh it wasn't like they were sending
it to a kid. It wasn't like they were ignoring,
you know, checking to see how old the buyer was
or whatever. What happened was the girlfriend or wife received
it and went to the police with it. So uh
(15:55):
and they essentially that's how your federal government works, right,
So they just basically bled him until he couldn't fight
anymore and finally accepting the plea bargain. I think they
went to prison for like a year each or something. Yeah. Yeah,
pretty you know, pretty crazy. Stuff. But uh, you know
it's and I've said from the time that that happened,
that that he got railroaded, you know that it was
(16:17):
it was crap.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
And you know, but as long as federal governments operating
on the above board and you know, following the rules
like they do.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Always as always.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Hey, you guys, see my computer around anywhere?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I go, Oh, I got a story for you tomorrow.
If we got a couple of minutes, you're gonna love
the one, I guess.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Okay, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
We have a super Chat Brian hip for nine to
nine super Chat, the franchise and free scene, my all
time favorite pairing in E c W. Thank you just
showing my appreciation. I missed those days a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Brian stood away. Thank you, Brian, you're going into the
ship yard.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Appreciate Brian. Happy Alla days. Bud Shane, what was.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Your favorite angle that we did together?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Oh goodness?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Oh oh wait?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And and also line five dollars super Chat. Uh you
can answer this one for Shane. When it comes to
injured Champs, is it best for Champs to surrender the title,
have an intermedium Champ or have attorney?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Line Charles Shipyard.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
On those different choices, I fall on the point of
being either for the title, be stripped of the title whatever. Uh,
the problem in ECW was that we didn't have a
deep enough bench and once we got past a certain point,
everybody was already angled up with somebody. And I had
on the Al Snum match in Gainesville. I'm frett again,
(17:50):
test I was. I wasn't in shame to walk up
and downstairs, let alone be in the ring. And uh,
you know, our kudos to al snow that that match
will show you how awesome he really is in the ring.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But that's what you're like wearing that match.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
By the way we watched it, she did and I
beg Paul drop it. I mean, I was certainly capable
of carrying it, and you know, you can put back
on me down the road if you want, if you
need to. And he just wouldn't do it. And I
just to this day, I never I've never known why.
But lond answer your question of those, I fall on
(18:26):
the idea of forfeiting it. You know it's going to
be a two or three four week thing type like that.
Maybe he can keep it where it is. But I
got in the UWF right now, I mean the UFC.
My son was telling me about the champion that got
injured and went ahead and just gave the title back
and forfeited, forfeited the title. And you know, it's crazy
(18:49):
to hear because you can hear in his my son's voice,
how he describes this, and he ends by saying that
guy's going to be over ten times as much when
he comes back, you know so, And he's right, you know,
because it's it's it shows honor and the uh you know,
dignity in the heart of a champion that they just
handed away.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
But it seems like now like they it's it's like
they don't know what to do when somebody gets injured,
you know, when they start scrambling and they start trying
to overbook or they're they're just you know this the
interim thing is this aw interim champion thing. They've had
like three or four of them since they instituted it,
and it's overkilled. But what you just said is the
right way to go. How come it's getting so difficult
(19:30):
now to just do something so simple?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Well, the first problem is the litany of injuries. Right
when when you're your top guys to say we have
ten top guys working for the title and the title contention,
when five or six or seven of them are out
with very serious injuries torn acls, torn achilles, broken necks. Uh,
it's pretty hard to continue a book. Well, we did
(19:54):
the first hardcore Homecoming or Extreme Rising in Philadelphia. Uh,
that was the one where Sad Boo was found unconscious.
And so now you start playing whack a mole because
when I had so many people in the building and
only so many people in that building that were capable
to make sense of having a match to the title
with me, Right, So once we took him out and
(20:16):
put two Cold in there, now we have to hole
over where two Cold was. So it suddenly becomes okay, boom,
what whack a mole? And it just keeps going on.
And then of course, you know, we had the second
incident that night with just Incredible, and you know, it's
suddenly you're out of options. You know, it's just car
is subject to change.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I bet you can't predict any of that in the
any pre show meeting that you have, Right.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, you can try all you like, and you're never
gonna get ahead of it. But hey, we can tell
what the weather's going to be in ten years.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
That's a damn good point. I gotta point this one out.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
We have a five dollars super chat from James Baby.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
He says, Hey, Francine, oh my god, it's Shane.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Lol.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
That's what I think all the time. I think, lol
whenever the franchise pops up.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
So let's go back to what Francine had asked you
before her Internet kind.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Of took an old crap ski So she basically said,
what was it?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
What was the best moment that you two had together?
Is that what her question was?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, well, I was just talking to some fans over
the weekend and explaining understand that I'm pretty sure I'm
right on this. If not, I'm off by a very
small amount. France scene went from training, you know, starting
in the training center to the main event in less
than a year. Yeah much, Yeah, I would have been
(21:35):
shipping my pants of somebody throw me that main event
a year into the business. She was a willing learner.
On the trips to and from the back from the building,
she would listen, ask appropriate questions and response. We would talk,
you know, and this was like an ongoing thing. The
(21:57):
day of the show where we perform the first second,
I get rid of the.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Frog, get rid of the frog, which I had one
right here.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
My coffee's done, so.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
She it's a ton of stuff to pick up, you know,
for especially for something less than a year. She was
a willing student, listened fast learner. She made some mistakes, also,
did I. I mean everybody does coming into the business.
But about two three months in is when she did
the the sexy drop and crawl across the ring to
(22:31):
the belt. I never told her to do that, and
I remember that being there in the turnbuck why she
was doing this, thinking, oh my god, she gets this right,
like she understands what the Queen of Extreme is meant
to be here. And and after that, you know, it
was just sort of like flying by the seat of
our pants.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
She would come in with ideas, I would throw ideas.
And there were nights that the fans don't seem to remember,
but there were nights when it just didn't work. The
chemistry between us was always pretty good, but whatever we
had planned for the match or promo, whatever were, it
didn't happen quite often, but it certainly happened, and it's
why we are. You know, just for all the fans
(23:14):
out there, thank you, because the fact that we still
hear in ECW Chant near twenty years after the place closed,
it is really amazing to all of us. We're proud
of Peacocks over it, but it really does amaze us
because you know, we were, in my mind for most
of that time, we were a small, crazy, insane independent
(23:36):
territory right of promotion. We had no idea at that
time how many people were trading tapes. We had heard
of it, you know, and in my head, I'm thinking, okay,
it's probably fifty or one hundred people mailing days back
and forth. And Pongo had told me when I interviewed
him last year. You know, of course that's how he
had ended up breaking into the business, as his grandparents
had a dish and he was to take these and
(24:00):
send them off and then trade and all that. He said, Shane,
he said, Shane, I got loaded. The orders never stopped coming,
and you know, and then of course as we built,
you know, started getting on the Sunshine Network and the
Madison Square Garden Network, and you know, there was there
was a pointment in hindsight, you know, we could be
(24:21):
you know, pretty critical of Paul, but at the time,
and even you know, the criticism would be that he
was offered pay per view much earlier. But the network
wanted like an eight camera shoot, and Paul was insistent
in sticking to his vision that this had to look
sort of like a Cops episode r R on the phone,
(24:42):
like jumping and running around with the handheld and everything.
And I really do believe that the look in the
feel of the company is what set it to where
it was. I mean, you know, we were obviously gonna
have some great matches, you know, some incredible matches in
that building. But the fact that he refused, you know,
it takes some big cohonies, right when you've been drugging
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along and trying to get this thing over and a
pretty large network comes in and says, hey, we'll air this,
and you tell them no, you know, because they wouldn't budge.
They wanted the pyro and all that kind of stuff
that was not ECW. And all of those things, I
think they're all part and parcel of what was the
(25:26):
success of ECW. And really the biggest ingredient to us
is that the fans. You know, every three weeks, the
fans were there in the ECW arena, and at any
time along that seven year stretch, if the building had
been a third full, a quarter full, even a half full,
(25:49):
excuse me, it could very well spelled the end of
ECW because we literally were living hand to mouth and
keeping that promotion going in that respect, and there's not
a lot of criticism to go around, but in that respect,
I think it was Paul Hayman cutting a lady in half.
You know that he was able to keep it going
(26:10):
that long and able to keep incredible talent coming in there,
and you know, continuing to build it and push it.
But if you remember back to like when TNN they
went on TNM, I was off obviously, I had left
the territory and I was tuning in. I wanted to
watch my friends, and it's something caught my eye and
(26:33):
I didn't know immediately what it was, but I'm watching
What's wrong with this? Something not right about it? And
then I started noticing Paul was duplicating his own booking.
You know, so he had Pat Kenny, who I think
is an amazing promo sort of mimicking that sort of
(26:54):
cerebral professorial style. You had Rhino the thick wall like
Tab was. And you know, and look, I mean a
seven year run for a booker. Creativity for anybody that's
out that that's ever written music or movies or screenplays
or books. The creativity when it goes, it goes, and
(27:18):
there's not just hate us. Go have a drink and
come back and I'll be refreshed. It's sometimes it never
comes back. And I'm curious as to like with Paul,
Like when all this stuff happened with Vince and there
was all this like turmoil up there, I thought for
sure we'd be hearing Paul's name into the mix somewhere.
(27:39):
Is there any Has anybody ever asked that question or
delved into that.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
No, I haven't heard much, you know, outside of anything
we've seen happen. But who else would have a better shot,
right than somebody like Paul at this point? Let's see,
let's see if we could add the Queen beck in here.
See where she's at at the moment. How are we
looking these days? Queen of Extreme?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I think I live in a jungle because I can't
get I can't get my camera to work, I can't
our internet cable and whatever I did pay my bill
I always pay my bills. I keep clicking. No internet,
(28:24):
No internet, so I said, oh, let me try my phone.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Can't get the.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Camera to work, so I can only uh, you can
only hear my lovely Philadelphia accent coming.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Through the melodic tones of the Queen.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Of I will do ASMR for the rest of the show.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Just continue in, friendies, makeup the Queen of technical difficulties they.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Didn't have for shame tonight, so they.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I'm telling you, if if I had what's that expression,
I wouldn't have any luck. If I had no bad luck,
if it weren't, I'd have no That's got to be
a country song, right.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
We just talked about that last week.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
We couldn't figure out what it was the last time
we broadcast.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But it's me.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
That's me totally, because look at me. I'm sitting here
refreshing and I have nothing. What did I miss? Did
I miss any super chats that I have.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
To re.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
We we went over the super chat question that that
had come in, and we talked about we followed up
on your question to Shane about you know, the top
moments that you guys had together.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I'll have to I'll have to rewind that later.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Yeah, I won't, I will, I won't tell you about
the burial of all burials.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Well I'm joking, but no, you know, it's it's interesting
too to So see.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
You guys working together again at the conventions is one
thing that's a different dynamic. But on the franchise is
Friends YouTube channel that you guys have been working on.
That's another dynamic that you guys have to work together.
So what was it like kind of bringing that back
Shane and doing it more like a meet the press
style discussion between you know you and the group of people.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But this last episode that.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Came out was Francine's Origin Story. I liked the title
of that one.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah right, it's Look, it's my belief after what we
see every weekend, we go to signings and conventions and virtuals,
the fans know pretty much everything there is to know
about our public characters and angles and history and all
of that. I think what the fans really want to
hear are the stories as to like what made Frannie
(30:29):
get into the business, what made Shane Douglas, Toroy Martin
get into the business, How are they brought together? I mean,
there's a lot of things to delve into there. And
because the business is like the daily news, right, the
daily news every day, there's more stories to hit on.
In wrestling, there's always something to talk about because there's
always some big rumor some big crisis, you know, some
(30:50):
big issue that's being talked about by the fans. This
gives us a chance to sit down. First of all,
I'll get it with chairs or any more broken bones
or anything. But you know, fortunately for me, over the years,
I've worked with a lot of great guys and become
friends with them. And you know, there really is an
(31:15):
almost unlimited supply of people to interview and to talk to.
And we do that, you know, on the applets and
Championship Wrestling site applets and expose a but we and
there you go. So we're sitting there talking about issues,
right and you here are points of view on these things.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
I love to meet the press style like the round table,
you know, the the the open discussion.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Uh yes, but he is I am his McMahon.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I never got to say this much, Shane. When you
say something good from down one, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
By the way, when you were just talking and you
on the screen, it was almost lined up.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
It was pretty Oh my God, that's right.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
We should like, well, let me tell you what happened.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
It was Todd Gordon at the end of the hallway.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
That's what I was talking about.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Every time you talk, I'm gonna put you back on
the screen there. I'll have the nasty boys react to
everything that you say. But no, I love it as
a fac I mean, look, I know these stories, you know,
like I know you know how I met my wife
at this point between you guys, because I hear him
so often.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
But it's just it.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Every time it enters a new realm, there's always something
you pick up. And you guys have that too, Like
even though you guys have probably talked about these things
a million times, that there's still something that pops up.
I never knew that, or oh my gosh, I wasn't
aware of that at that point of course.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Well, the chemistry is unmistakable, right, and you can't fake that.
And the fact that Franne and I have always gotten
along so well and hit off so well and work
so well together. It's like with my ex wife, like
we were still married way back in the dark ages
there we would know what each other was meanings by
(33:06):
a glance for a look or a tilted the head,
and Francine and I sort of have that like we'll
just be in a restaurant and somebody walk in and
we'll supposed to start cracking up because you know it's
what he's just thinking. You know, it's hilarious been you know,
like like big brother, little sister right there, Brother and sister.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I think one of the best parts of of my
video that you just put up when Jerry Snaggs goes, Todd,
who's that? And I go, you know, Todd Gordon and
he goes, no, I don't who is that. I had
no idea who Dodd Gordon was. I was like, oh, okay,
explained it to.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Him and the other the fans after that may not
have seen Franchise's friends yet. You know, with all these
podcasts and so much online stuff and that we just
get delused with every day. We're keeping these intentionally very
tight on time seven, eight, nine minutes, occasionally ten or eleven.
(34:04):
But you can get through one of these clips, you know,
if you don't sit around all evening watching for an
hour or two to see what we could have said
in ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, they're quick, Yes, they're quick to the point, but
a lot of information in them.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
So if you if you have not yet, go over and.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Search on YouTube franchises Friends, give us a sub and
ring that bell as well so you get the notifications
on that because there's going to be a lot more
coming on that channel. We're hoping to do another set
of you know, questions and answers with some new guests
and I'm excited about it. I hope it takes off
(34:42):
and we get to do it more often because that's fun.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That stuff is fun.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, it's great. I want to ask your viewers something
and we're going to delve into a little pole here.
If they can respond to the bottom when when you're
having the questions answered like that and uh, the back
and forth, you know, he can stop it and move
off it. But Francine had sent me a screen shot.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Oh god, no one, And I told.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Her, I said, I don't know because I hadn't been
on Twitter since all the censorship crap started. So she
had sent with the red circle right on the era
button to push hit the video. No, no, no, I
didn't notice it. It was a screenshot. I just I
just see it on my screen. That's not when I
circled to find a picture and put it up online.
(35:34):
I have the picture.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I have the picture the way I okay, guys, listen
to me. I know you can't see me, but I'd
be cracking up. You would see my face rolling on.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
It's me.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
It's my show up right here, up here. I was
trying to help him do something. I wanted him to
retweet something that I had posted on Twitter. So he
instead of retweeting it, what he did was he answered
underneath the tweet and I said, no, Shane, I said,
(36:05):
retweet with the comment, and he goes, I don't know
how to do that.
Speaker 7 (36:08):
So I took a screenshot.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I made a circle around the little box thing that.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
The retweet box. I don't know what's with the two arrows.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I gotta jump by. I gotta play a turn in
here your red circles encompassing the go button.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
It was yeah, well, I drew a really big circle.
But I thought you knew what the retweet button was.
I didn't think you were one hundred and twenty seven
years old. He didn't know what the retweet button was,
so idiot. He texts me back and he goes, I'm
pushing the play button. But nothing's happening.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
It's a screenshot, she says back, bra.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
I was like, are you shitting me?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Is that independent of the day where I was trying
to help Shane with the video?
Speaker 1 (36:59):
And now no, this was really then he right, Then
he goes, how did you circle that?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
By the way, what I sent you a snail mail letter,
so when you get it, make sure you answered.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
I'm the outside right now doing smoke signals sending.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
You a letter.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
It's so ridiculous. Oh my god, that was great.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Well before before Stan has to get going, I just
want to show this again.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Look at we're giving away tonight.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Wow, handsome handsome. You have to get that handsome do
a close up on to bring close to the camera.
Look at that quass like at that.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
I know what he was looking for there to.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
That is that is a babyface. If I've ever seen
a baby face in my life.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I was three there. Uh. Last night on the pay
per view the Ricky Steamboat final match, which was phenomenal.
For you fans that hadn't seen it, go get it.
It's great. Ah. So Joe Dombrowski is the one to
play by play right, He's sitting right next to me,
and We're looking at each other, and so I figured
I'd just take like a little jab at some of
(38:08):
my friends at the business, and I said, Hey, is
my bolt spot showing? He goes, no, he said, I
don't see what I said, because I ain't got one.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Everybody has been calling me and saying, man, why did
you do that to Joe online? Because I guess he
has a bolt spot.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
What did he.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I think I think I know who it was directed to,
but I'm not gonna say anything.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Oh my god, did you catch last night? No, go
back and catch it was great.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
I saw, I saw the clips.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
I didn't see the full match, but I saw he
still got it.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
The arm drag got the response I figured it would.
But the rest of the card was strong, really super showing.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You're talking about.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
The big time wrestling.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yes Time Wrestling. Ye okay at Dorton Arena and uh Raleigh,
Oh okay, okay. So yeah, go back and check it
out and check the clips and stuff, because it really
was just a fun night and because of the history
in that building and so many guys like Ron Simmons
and Lex Luger and Tommy Dreamer and just go on
and on and on and on. Right, the place was
(39:20):
packed full of Nick all This and Matt Hardy. I mean,
it was just incredible. And then there were a ton
of guys that had recorded messages for Ricky that couldn't
make it, so they were be rolling those Excuse me,
it really did, and not just because of the steamboat
match that was you know, that was always there looming
in the background, but the rest of the card was
(39:41):
damn strong and uh and the matches were really, really
good matches, far better than other stuff I'm looking at today.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Right, Well, that sounds great. Yeah, I'll have to figure
it out and get my hands on a copy. We
won't hold you up. I know your son's over there.
You're gonna go eat a feast. What did you make?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Chile a? Chile a?
Speaker 7 (40:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Did you all right?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Well? Enjoy that half this on the carpet downstairs?
Speaker 7 (40:06):
But yeah, did you fall or did you just dropped out?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I'm going to turn to bang something and fell on
the floor.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
And carpal tunnel's a bitch, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
And I only said the F bomb three and seventy
four times.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Which is nice because it's usually three thousand. Well, buddy, listen,
I thank you for popping on. Do you want to
tell people where.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
To find you. Yeah, it's at at the franchise SD
on Twitter, the for everybody out there, the Facebook page,
the Shamee the franchise Douglas. I know I'm the franchise
Shamee Douglas. My publisher set it up years ago and
I had a year or two ago try to get
on there. The recovery. Somebody's hijacked it, so whatever's being
(40:55):
put up on there, I have no idea, but the
recovery phone, numbered, email and everything is unknown to me
whoever it is. So as of right now, right now
it's Twitter.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Okay, yeah, so he's on Twitter and go to franchise
as friends and subscribe to that. We need to make
that page grow so they'll have us back to do
around two.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yes. But and again, everybody out there, please send in
your suggestions if you see something you think would make
those better. This is very much a work in progress
right now. We've got a great team working on it,
but we're our ears are all open, so please send
in ideas for questions you'd like to get answered. Some
production thing you think could be better. Don't hesitate to
(41:38):
us because we don't. We we're from the generation that
took criticism very well or else.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, and I just want to keep saying ah.
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dirty finger? You get come on, man with those arfreidst
Shriven hands, get in the shot.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Wasn't you this is my partner?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Why that is back?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Seeing you miss me so much that you had to
come back? Who wasn't look to me with me every
day this weekend?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Good lord?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
My friend? I am egg exhausted.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Do you not feel like we fluted Japan twice?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
One weekend?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah? Two and a half times.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And I'm telling you, I don't know if it's because
we're old or what, but I feel like like I
slept pretty good last night, but I feel like I'm
still not caught up on sleep.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I don't know. I don't think third nine is very old.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It's just oh, okay, how would you sum up the weekend?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Long? Long? I tell you I've known Tracy Uh that
does that show and uh since he started it, and
he's a great guy. And he puts a lot of
time and money into that to raise money for toys
thoughts yep, and you know, gives a lot of kids
down there a Christmas Day party would otherwise have so, like,
(01:49):
you know, the complaining that we do because there's rush here,
rush there. I mean, in the overall scheme of things,
not too bad. So thanks thanks for Tracy out there.
Great job.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Absolutely A question for you.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Do you feel like a kid sitting in that hotel
room with all the impact kids? Did it bring you
back to the nineties when we were the when we
were them, when we were the young one?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I don't know. I uh, I don't think we were
that loud.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We weren't they were.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, that's what I mean. It's like back then. I mean,
uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We couldn't even hear each other talking.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It was the four of us, you and your friend
Betty and Brian. Of course, uh, of course did have
a great time, and so people came and got a
little bit louder and fetes more. A little few more
people a little bit louder. And I don't let you
saw Chris's face when you walked in. He he walked in,
me back out because we left.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Wait, so the moose took an early exit.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, I don't think drink.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
No, he didn't drink. Excuse me one second.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Dan le Lemony four ninety ninety try emails should be
sent if.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You picked them someone else.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Dan, that's very I guess Christy has five in Chris.
Christy is the only one else who put it into.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Charles chip Jar. So thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, I had a nice time.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I was looking around the room and I was just
I was seeing everybody interact with something. I was literally
getting flashbacks to when we were that age, and I
felt like an old lady sitting there. But they were
so nice. They were talking to us and including.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Up and everything, and yeah, a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I don't know for those of you that sucked down
too much of that particular drink that we shayn't message time.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I didn't know, you know, I thought you did shots
of moonshine and then like the next day we're all
there and we're just like we're sitting there when.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You didn't do it shot Betty poured you if that
was the glass to you that much?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
No, I was gulping it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And Heath Slater or Heath as He said, you're suppose
to sip it with ice, Like that's what you do.
You sit on your porch in your rocket chair and
you just sip it with some ice.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And I didn't know. I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It's like a fine brandy, it's moine.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It kicked my ass.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I went. I left that room at two am, and
I woke up at four with the spins.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Terrible feeling.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Then I was up by six o'clock and I was
just like, well, screw this, I as well get ready.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So but a fun weekend.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah again.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
They had Shane five miles away from me.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So I grabbed them, brought him over to my table
and made them sit with me and.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Ate promoters out there. She and I finger again. She
and I used to work together quite a bit and
probably should be together, sitting at consignings and conventions and
well mire wrestling shows in too.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You might as well, I mean, why don't you book
him and then book me to manage somebody else?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
That would be perfect? Were you guys?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Were you guys like nine hundred miles away?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Again?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, I had to ground well.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
The first night he was across from me, like I
was looking, and he was looking at me, and we
were looking at each other, and I got up.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I said, just come on over because they had him
signing with Jimmy Hart.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah. I love Jimmy, but no reason Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Hart, like, come on, I had nobody next to me,
no reason, so I pulled his ass over And then
the next day I said, get over here. And because
it just makes the time go by better when you
have a buddy with you.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
When you laugh like two morons like we do, it
just makes it fun for me.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So I you know, I always have fun with you,
but I had a good time.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
It was.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It was a fun weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Oh, Angela is so cute. She said, you can't separate
a king from this queen.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh right, Oh what.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I want to take a bite of some margarine. What
there's a whole lot of young people watching us right now?
What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Dang, know what that means?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Line five dollars, super chat high fabulous sprint scene Chad
and franchise, Shane, how would you describe your time in XPW?
Thank you to all and keep up the great work
your fan line, thank you? Line You're going in the
Geral strip Joark, Shane.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You want to answer that question?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, you know, I thought we had a real chance
to do something there. It provided everything as was laid
out to me, as I laid it out, as you know,
requirements for me to come there. Uh. We we were
slowly going with Paul had done early on, you know,
whittling through the talent and elevating some and getting rid
of some and bring remember Candido coming in and uh
(06:38):
Sabo at one point, and you know, we really were
going heading in the right direction and kill it until
it stopcorn in the right direction. And the excuse that
I was given was our taped exer down. And I said, wait,
you run a company that sells porno flicks that quite
(06:58):
a few and gets sold everywhere, and you don't have
a single backup. You don't have a mechanic, a guy
you calls, hey, the text are down. And it was
then that I had some friends sending me what they
were putting on. And the one that there were a
lot of instances, but the one that set me over
the edge was we PJ and I were working at
(07:19):
Angle and he had done this phenomenal promo in like
a broom clause, like real tight end. Mine my promo
needed to come after because it was responding to what
he said, and that particular show mine that made no
sense at that point opened up the show and you know,
(07:40):
and it was just that kind of stuff like, and
I tried to explain to Rob Black at the time.
You know, nobody is saying, right now, Rob Black fucked up,
or somebody that works for Rob Black, they're saying I
fucked up because my name's on it as the booker,
and and so I just sort of did, like what
I usually do this, I see you him on back
(08:02):
to the berg right right? But is the place for me?
That was one of the songs Frandy was singing all weekend.
I sing.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
We could have figured out the words. So I brought
up the lyrics and I sanctioned the whole Green Acres.
He was sitting there like this listening.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
She had the footstorms down and everything.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
So your time that was there, Ago, was it enjoyable
for you?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I mean not really. I mean it was being back
in the ring. It was great, and a lot of
the guys were like Funk was in, and Candido was in,
and you know, Cody Michaels of course was there. So yeah,
I mean I had some fun with it, but it's, uh,
you know, the whole debacle of the habitarry in his
arm at the end there, you know, it just it
(08:56):
was just too much. It was just becoming a like
a joke of itself. And then when I found out
that he had started dabbling the porno into it, that
was a break deal to me that I'm not everybody
else likes to look at stuff, know, And then but
uh no, you know, it had to be kept separate
because that was the low hanging fruit of criticism that
(09:17):
the ECW fans were leveling against it, and they were right.
I mean, there's no reason for those two things to
be connected until done, woven into the storylines or whatever,
and not in a pornographic way.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
It was like how ECW used to go to the
T shirt commercials, you know, in between the breaks, they
would go to like like a two minute you know,
slow jazz music style, you know, topless girl everywhere montage.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So it was kind of like what w e W did.
See I worked.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I worked for a women's promotion when ECW folded was
WEW Women's Extreme Wrestling, right, And the only way we
can get on pay per view is if porn was involved.
You had half the locker room who was legit workers,
and then you had your porn girls. And guess who
was the genius of this. It was Steve Carroll. Carrol
(10:10):
is the one that got us on pay per view.
But if the porn wasn't intertwined, then we wanted to
know how to show. So they used to call me
to do voiceovers, right, so I'd be.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Sitting there and it would be a match, and.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I go, let's transition now to a lovely Jade and Sarah.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
They want to.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Try out for w E W do they have what
it takes? Let's go to the footage and.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
The girl in bed and there nothing to do with
it though it was just a porn scene. But we
you know, that was the way we kind of we said,
everybody was trying out to be on the roster.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So stupid just gra cut the porno, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And I hated it, but if we didn't have it,
then we lost our pay per view spot. So it
was it was just ridiculous. Somebody had said, was I
ever asked to go? And I was.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Rob Black had called.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And he had pitched because you were with Lizzie, so
he had.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Pitched that I go with him.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yes, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I said.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I remember, I said, well, I've never seen the product,
and he goes, oh, I'll send you some DVDs, And
I said, oh, I don't even have a DVD player.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
He sent me a DVD player.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
He did.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It was very nice of him, and I always put
him over for that.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It was true. I've got no problems with Rob. I mean,
he's a good guy. But you know, ultimately, when you're
running any kind of company or business, uh, whoever the
boss is, whoever's making the final decision, you got to
follow that or you can fire that guy and do
whatever you want. And you know, it just and the
whole thing with the tape decks went on for like
a month, right like, Oh, can't get him fixed. I
(11:54):
tape mix Cadine dubs. I was like, okay, guys.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, and that was that was the last of it
right there. Yeah, wow, crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
It had such like I mean, it had that.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
You know, they wanted you to think, Okay, this is
the second coming of ECW.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Now the DCW is gone.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Like this was the players were there, the key people
were in place, but it just seemed like there was
something that was missing. And then I think when you
stepped away, it really lost its identity. And you know,
what's what's remembered about it now, they really remember everybody
talks about New Jack throwing vic grimes you know, off
the scaffold more than any angle that that ever took place.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Right, you know, it's you know, again ultimately his company, right,
he's the guy spending the money. So how the grown
ups do it is they say, for any I like
your work, but we're going in other direction, So we're
gonna go with Chad or whatever. It just belabored the
point and then like the whole thing of what they
(12:54):
were saying to try to set up the excuse, Uh,
we don't have the tape texts at work. And this
went on and on and on. You know, I just
as I recall when I left, it was there was
no like argument or heat or anything. I just said, okay,
you know, take you off, guys, I'm done, you know,
and that was it, you know, it was uh. And
the shame of it is look the reason you know,
(13:15):
forever we out to listening to figuring like why couldn't
we have done this or that, you know, and mix
them together. The whole fiasco between XPW and ECW. After
I'd left, that was weighing on a lot of the
ECW fans minds. If we were as good or close
to ECW those fans would have still said at AECW right,
(13:39):
So we really had to get into that ultra vein
of being ECW consistently week after week after week in
the houses on the TV show, and then at some
point down the road we might have been able to
introduce something like that that the fans then probably would
have gravitated to. But because that was the big slam
at the beginning, those two things had to be kept.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Was the company done after you left? Or did it like,
did they do a couple more things and.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Then they wanted for a short while, I think, yeah, yeah,
I think they put down to kmart and but one
then yeah, so it's uh yeah, after I had left,
and I forget how long it was, but that was
when Rob and Lizzie had gotten in trouble with the government.
(14:30):
And I'll put some two cents heter on this. It
was BS right. The Supreme Court is steadfastly held that pornography,
you know, done properly and everything is legal's first Amendment.
And what happened there was his company had sent porno
to some guy in California, Pennsylvania, which is about an
(14:51):
hour from me, an hour and a half, and who
knew California, PA has some of the most string an
anti pornography laws. So the her name was Mary Beth Buchanan,
I think who was the uh uh not the attorney
general of the US Attorney here in Pittsburgh, and she
(15:13):
went after him. She went after Tommy Chong, uh yeah,
threatened to put his son in prison, and of course
Tommy Cheng didn't know take me. And she went for
these sort of high profile cases like that. The best
was when she tried to run for the Senate and
got her ass handed to her. Uh yeah. And I
(15:35):
think what happened to Robin and Lizzie was was bullshit.
You know. It's uh it wasn't like they were sending
it to a kid. It wasn't like they were ignoring,
you know, checking to see how old the buyer was
or whatever. What happened was the girlfriend or wife received
it and went to the police with it. So uh
(15:55):
and they essentially that's how your federal government works, right,
So they just basically bled him until he couldn't fight
anymore and finally accepting the plea bargain. I think they
went to prison for like a year each or something. Yeah. Yeah,
pretty you know, pretty crazy. Stuff. But uh, you know
it's and I've said from the time that that happened,
that that he got railroaded, you know that it was
(16:17):
it was crap.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
And you know, but as long as federal governments operating
on the above board and you know, following the rules
like they do.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Always as always.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Hey, you guys, see my computer around anywhere?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I go, Oh, I got a story for you tomorrow.
If we got a couple of minutes, you're gonna love
the one, I guess.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Okay, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
We have a super Chat Brian hip for nine to
nine super Chat, the franchise and free scene, my all
time favorite pairing in E c W. Thank you just
showing my appreciation. I missed those days a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Brian stood away. Thank you, Brian, you're going into the
ship yard.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Appreciate Brian. Happy Alla days. Bud Shane, what was.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Your favorite angle that we did together?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Oh goodness?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Oh oh wait?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And and also line five dollars super Chat. Uh you
can answer this one for Shane. When it comes to
injured Champs, is it best for Champs to surrender the title,
have an intermedium Champ or have attorney?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Line Charles Shipyard.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
On those different choices, I fall on the point of
being either for the title, be stripped of the title whatever. Uh,
the problem in ECW was that we didn't have a
deep enough bench and once we got past a certain point,
everybody was already angled up with somebody. And I had
on the Al Snum match in Gainesville. I'm frett again,
(17:50):
test I was. I wasn't in shame to walk up
and downstairs, let alone be in the ring. And uh,
you know, our kudos to al snow that that match
will show you how awesome he really is in the ring.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But that's what you're like wearing that match.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
By the way we watched it, she did and I
beg Paul drop it. I mean, I was certainly capable
of carrying it, and you know, you can put back
on me down the road if you want, if you
need to. And he just wouldn't do it. And I
just to this day, I never I've never known why.
But lond answer your question of those, I fall on
(18:26):
the idea of forfeiting it. You know it's going to
be a two or three four week thing type like that.
Maybe he can keep it where it is. But I
got in the UWF right now, I mean the UFC.
My son was telling me about the champion that got
injured and went ahead and just gave the title back
and forfeited, forfeited the title. And you know, it's crazy
(18:49):
to hear because you can hear in his my son's voice,
how he describes this, and he ends by saying that
guy's going to be over ten times as much when
he comes back, you know so, And he's right, you know,
because it's it's it shows honor and the uh you know,
dignity in the heart of a champion that they just
handed away.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
But it seems like now like they it's it's like
they don't know what to do when somebody gets injured,
you know, when they start scrambling and they start trying
to overbook or they're they're just you know this the
interim thing is this aw interim champion thing. They've had
like three or four of them since they instituted it,
and it's overkilled. But what you just said is the
right way to go. How come it's getting so difficult
(19:30):
now to just do something so simple?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Well, the first problem is the litany of injuries. Right
when when you're your top guys to say we have
ten top guys working for the title and the title contention,
when five or six or seven of them are out
with very serious injuries torn acls, torn achilles, broken necks. Uh,
it's pretty hard to continue a book. Well, we did
(19:54):
the first hardcore Homecoming or Extreme Rising in Philadelphia. Uh,
that was the one where Sad Boo was found unconscious.
And so now you start playing whack a mole because
when I had so many people in the building and
only so many people in that building that were capable
to make sense of having a match to the title
with me, Right, So once we took him out and
(20:16):
put two Cold in there, now we have to hole
over where two Cold was. So it suddenly becomes okay, boom,
what whack a mole? And it just keeps going on.
And then of course, you know, we had the second
incident that night with just Incredible, and you know, it's
suddenly you're out of options. You know, it's just car
is subject to change.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I bet you can't predict any of that in the
any pre show meeting that you have, Right.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, you can try all you like, and you're never
gonna get ahead of it. But hey, we can tell
what the weather's going to be in ten years.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
That's a damn good point. I gotta point this one out.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
We have a five dollars super chat from James Baby.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
He says, Hey, Francine, oh my god, it's Shane.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Lol.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
That's what I think all the time. I think, lol
whenever the franchise pops up.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
So let's go back to what Francine had asked you
before her Internet kind.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Of took an old crap ski So she basically said,
what was it?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
What was the best moment that you two had together?
Is that what her question was?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, well, I was just talking to some fans over
the weekend and explaining understand that I'm pretty sure I'm
right on this. If not, I'm off by a very
small amount. France scene went from training, you know, starting
in the training center to the main event in less
than a year. Yeah much, Yeah, I would have been
(21:35):
shipping my pants of somebody throw me that main event
a year into the business. She was a willing learner.
On the trips to and from the back from the building,
she would listen, ask appropriate questions and response. We would talk,
you know, and this was like an ongoing thing. The
(21:57):
day of the show where we perform the first second,
I get rid of the.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Frog, get rid of the frog, which I had one
right here.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
My coffee's done, so.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
She it's a ton of stuff to pick up, you know,
for especially for something less than a year. She was
a willing student, listened fast learner. She made some mistakes, also,
did I. I mean everybody does coming into the business.
But about two three months in is when she did
the the sexy drop and crawl across the ring to
(22:31):
the belt. I never told her to do that, and
I remember that being there in the turnbuck why she
was doing this, thinking, oh my god, she gets this right,
like she understands what the Queen of Extreme is meant
to be here. And and after that, you know, it
was just sort of like flying by the seat of
our pants.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
She would come in with ideas, I would throw ideas.
And there were nights that the fans don't seem to remember,
but there were nights when it just didn't work. The
chemistry between us was always pretty good, but whatever we
had planned for the match or promo, whatever were, it
didn't happen quite often, but it certainly happened, and it's
why we are. You know, just for all the fans
(23:14):
out there, thank you, because the fact that we still
hear in ECW Chant near twenty years after the place closed,
it is really amazing to all of us. We're proud
of Peacocks over it, but it really does amaze us
because you know, we were, in my mind for most
of that time, we were a small, crazy, insane independent
(23:36):
territory right of promotion. We had no idea at that
time how many people were trading tapes. We had heard
of it, you know, and in my head, I'm thinking, okay,
it's probably fifty or one hundred people mailing days back
and forth. And Pongo had told me when I interviewed
him last year. You know, of course that's how he
had ended up breaking into the business, as his grandparents
had a dish and he was to take these and
(24:00):
send them off and then trade and all that. He said, Shane,
he said, Shane, I got loaded. The orders never stopped coming,
and you know, and then of course as we built,
you know, started getting on the Sunshine Network and the
Madison Square Garden Network, and you know, there was there
was a pointment in hindsight, you know, we could be
(24:21):
you know, pretty critical of Paul, but at the time,
and even you know, the criticism would be that he
was offered pay per view much earlier. But the network
wanted like an eight camera shoot, and Paul was insistent
in sticking to his vision that this had to look
sort of like a Cops episode r R on the phone,
(24:42):
like jumping and running around with the handheld and everything.
And I really do believe that the look in the
feel of the company is what set it to where
it was. I mean, you know, we were obviously gonna
have some great matches, you know, some incredible matches in
that building. But the fact that he refused, you know,
it takes some big cohonies, right when you've been drugging
(25:05):
along and trying to get this thing over and a
pretty large network comes in and says, hey, we'll air this,
and you tell them no, you know, because they wouldn't budge.
They wanted the pyro and all that kind of stuff
that was not ECW. And all of those things, I
think they're all part and parcel of what was the
(25:26):
success of ECW. And really the biggest ingredient to us
is that the fans. You know, every three weeks, the
fans were there in the ECW arena, and at any
time along that seven year stretch, if the building had
been a third full, a quarter full, even a half full,
(25:49):
excuse me, it could very well spelled the end of
ECW because we literally were living hand to mouth and
keeping that promotion going in that respect, and there's not
a lot of criticism to go around, but in that respect,
I think it was Paul Hayman cutting a lady in half.
You know that he was able to keep it going
(26:10):
that long and able to keep incredible talent coming in there,
and you know, continuing to build it and push it.
But if you remember back to like when TNN they
went on TNM, I was off obviously, I had left
the territory and I was tuning in. I wanted to
watch my friends, and it's something caught my eye and
(26:33):
I didn't know immediately what it was, but I'm watching
What's wrong with this? Something not right about it? And
then I started noticing Paul was duplicating his own booking.
You know, so he had Pat Kenny, who I think
is an amazing promo sort of mimicking that sort of
(26:54):
cerebral professorial style. You had Rhino the thick wall like
Tab was. And you know, and look, I mean a
seven year run for a booker. Creativity for anybody that's
out that that's ever written music or movies or screenplays
or books. The creativity when it goes, it goes, and
(27:18):
there's not just hate us. Go have a drink and
come back and I'll be refreshed. It's sometimes it never
comes back. And I'm curious as to like with Paul,
Like when all this stuff happened with Vince and there
was all this like turmoil up there, I thought for
sure we'd be hearing Paul's name into the mix somewhere.
(27:39):
Is there any Has anybody ever asked that question or
delved into that.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
No, I haven't heard much, you know, outside of anything
we've seen happen. But who else would have a better shot,
right than somebody like Paul at this point? Let's see,
let's see if we could add the Queen beck in here.
See where she's at at the moment. How are we
looking these days? Queen of Extreme?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I think I live in a jungle because I can't
get I can't get my camera to work, I can't
our internet cable and whatever I did pay my bill
I always pay my bills. I keep clicking. No internet,
(28:24):
No internet, so I said, oh, let me try my phone.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Can't get the.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Camera to work, so I can only uh, you can
only hear my lovely Philadelphia accent coming.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Through the melodic tones of the Queen.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Of I will do ASMR for the rest of the show.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Just continue in, friendies, makeup the Queen of technical difficulties they.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Didn't have for shame tonight, so they.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I'm telling you, if if I had what's that expression,
I wouldn't have any luck. If I had no bad luck,
if it weren't, I'd have no That's got to be
a country song, right.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
We just talked about that last week.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
We couldn't figure out what it was the last time
we broadcast.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But it's me.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
That's me totally, because look at me. I'm sitting here
refreshing and I have nothing. What did I miss? Did
I miss any super chats that I have.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
To re.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
We we went over the super chat question that that
had come in, and we talked about we followed up
on your question to Shane about you know, the top
moments that you guys had together.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I'll have to I'll have to rewind that later.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Yeah, I won't, I will, I won't tell you about
the burial of all burials.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Well I'm joking, but no, you know, it's it's interesting
too to So see.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
You guys working together again at the conventions is one
thing that's a different dynamic. But on the franchise is
Friends YouTube channel that you guys have been working on.
That's another dynamic that you guys have to work together.
So what was it like kind of bringing that back
Shane and doing it more like a meet the press
style discussion between you know you and the group of people.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But this last episode that.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Came out was Francine's Origin Story. I liked the title
of that one.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah right, it's Look, it's my belief after what we
see every weekend, we go to signings and conventions and virtuals,
the fans know pretty much everything there is to know
about our public characters and angles and history and all
of that. I think what the fans really want to
hear are the stories as to like what made Frannie
(30:29):
get into the business, what made Shane Douglas, Toroy Martin
get into the business, How are they brought together? I mean,
there's a lot of things to delve into there. And
because the business is like the daily news, right, the
daily news every day, there's more stories to hit on.
In wrestling, there's always something to talk about because there's
always some big rumor some big crisis, you know, some
(30:50):
big issue that's being talked about by the fans. This
gives us a chance to sit down. First of all,
I'll get it with chairs or any more broken bones
or anything. But you know, fortunately for me, over the years,
I've worked with a lot of great guys and become
friends with them. And you know, there really is an
(31:15):
almost unlimited supply of people to interview and to talk to.
And we do that, you know, on the applets and
Championship Wrestling site applets and expose a but we and
there you go. So we're sitting there talking about issues,
right and you here are points of view on these things.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
I love to meet the press style like the round table,
you know, the the the open discussion.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Uh yes, but he is I am his McMahon.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I never got to say this much, Shane. When you
say something good from down one, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
By the way, when you were just talking and you
on the screen, it was almost lined up.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
It was pretty Oh my God, that's right.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
We should like, well, let me tell you what happened.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
It was Todd Gordon at the end of the hallway.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
That's what I was talking about.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Every time you talk, I'm gonna put you back on
the screen there. I'll have the nasty boys react to
everything that you say. But no, I love it as
a fac I mean, look, I know these stories, you know,
like I know you know how I met my wife
at this point between you guys, because I hear him
so often.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
But it's just it.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Every time it enters a new realm, there's always something
you pick up. And you guys have that too, Like
even though you guys have probably talked about these things
a million times, that there's still something that pops up.
I never knew that, or oh my gosh, I wasn't
aware of that at that point of course.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Well, the chemistry is unmistakable, right, and you can't fake that.
And the fact that Franne and I have always gotten
along so well and hit off so well and work
so well together. It's like with my ex wife, like
we were still married way back in the dark ages
there we would know what each other was meanings by
(33:06):
a glance for a look or a tilted the head,
and Francine and I sort of have that like we'll
just be in a restaurant and somebody walk in and
we'll supposed to start cracking up because you know it's
what he's just thinking. You know, it's hilarious been you know,
like like big brother, little sister right there, Brother and sister.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I think one of the best parts of of my
video that you just put up when Jerry Snaggs goes, Todd,
who's that? And I go, you know, Todd Gordon and
he goes, no, I don't who is that. I had
no idea who Dodd Gordon was. I was like, oh, okay,
explained it to.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Him and the other the fans after that may not
have seen Franchise's friends yet. You know, with all these
podcasts and so much online stuff and that we just
get delused with every day. We're keeping these intentionally very
tight on time seven, eight, nine minutes, occasionally ten or eleven.
(34:04):
But you can get through one of these clips, you know,
if you don't sit around all evening watching for an
hour or two to see what we could have said
in ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, they're quick, Yes, they're quick to the point, but
a lot of information in them.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
So if you if you have not yet, go over and.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Search on YouTube franchises Friends, give us a sub and
ring that bell as well so you get the notifications
on that because there's going to be a lot more
coming on that channel. We're hoping to do another set
of you know, questions and answers with some new guests
and I'm excited about it. I hope it takes off
(34:42):
and we get to do it more often because that's fun.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That stuff is fun.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, it's great. I want to ask your viewers something
and we're going to delve into a little pole here.
If they can respond to the bottom when when you're
having the questions answered like that and uh, the back
and forth, you know, he can stop it and move
off it. But Francine had sent me a screen shot.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Oh god, no one, And I told.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Her, I said, I don't know because I hadn't been
on Twitter since all the censorship crap started. So she
had sent with the red circle right on the era
button to push hit the video. No, no, no, I
didn't notice it. It was a screenshot. I just I
just see it on my screen. That's not when I
circled to find a picture and put it up online.
(35:34):
I have the picture.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I have the picture the way I okay, guys, listen
to me. I know you can't see me, but I'd
be cracking up. You would see my face rolling on.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
It's me.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
It's my show up right here, up here. I was
trying to help him do something. I wanted him to
retweet something that I had posted on Twitter. So he
instead of retweeting it, what he did was he answered
underneath the tweet and I said, no, Shane, I said,
(36:05):
retweet with the comment, and he goes, I don't know
how to do that.
Speaker 7 (36:08):
So I took a screenshot.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I made a circle around the little box thing that.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
The retweet box. I don't know what's with the two arrows.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I gotta jump by. I gotta play a turn in
here your red circles encompassing the go button.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
It was yeah, well, I drew a really big circle.
But I thought you knew what the retweet button was.
I didn't think you were one hundred and twenty seven
years old. He didn't know what the retweet button was,
so idiot. He texts me back and he goes, I'm
pushing the play button. But nothing's happening.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
It's a screenshot, she says back, bra.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
I was like, are you shitting me?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Is that independent of the day where I was trying
to help Shane with the video?
Speaker 1 (36:59):
And now no, this was really then he right, Then
he goes, how did you circle that?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
By the way, what I sent you a snail mail letter,
so when you get it, make sure you answered.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
I'm the outside right now doing smoke signals sending.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
You a letter.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
It's so ridiculous. Oh my god, that was great.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Well before before Stan has to get going, I just
want to show this again.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Look at we're giving away tonight.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Wow, handsome handsome. You have to get that handsome do
a close up on to bring close to the camera.
Look at that quass like at that.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
I know what he was looking for there to.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
That is that is a babyface. If I've ever seen
a baby face in my life.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I was three there. Uh. Last night on the pay
per view the Ricky Steamboat final match, which was phenomenal.
For you fans that hadn't seen it, go get it.
It's great. Ah. So Joe Dombrowski is the one to
play by play right, He's sitting right next to me,
and We're looking at each other, and so I figured
I'd just take like a little jab at some of
(38:08):
my friends at the business, and I said, Hey, is
my bolt spot showing? He goes, no, he said, I
don't see what I said, because I ain't got one.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Everybody has been calling me and saying, man, why did
you do that to Joe online? Because I guess he
has a bolt spot.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
What did he.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I think I think I know who it was directed to,
but I'm not gonna say anything.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Oh my god, did you catch last night? No, go
back and catch it was great.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
I saw, I saw the clips.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
I didn't see the full match, but I saw he
still got it.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
The arm drag got the response I figured it would.
But the rest of the card was strong, really super showing.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You're talking about.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
The big time wrestling.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yes Time Wrestling. Ye okay at Dorton Arena and uh Raleigh,
Oh okay, okay. So yeah, go back and check it
out and check the clips and stuff, because it really
was just a fun night and because of the history
in that building and so many guys like Ron Simmons
and Lex Luger and Tommy Dreamer and just go on
and on and on and on. Right, the place was
(39:20):
packed full of Nick all This and Matt Hardy. I mean,
it was just incredible. And then there were a ton
of guys that had recorded messages for Ricky that couldn't
make it, so they were be rolling those Excuse me,
it really did, and not just because of the steamboat
match that was you know, that was always there looming
in the background, but the rest of the card was
(39:41):
damn strong and uh and the matches were really, really
good matches, far better than other stuff I'm looking at today.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Right, Well, that sounds great. Yeah, I'll have to figure
it out and get my hands on a copy. We
won't hold you up. I know your son's over there.
You're gonna go eat a feast. What did you make?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Chile a? Chile a?
Speaker 7 (40:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Did you all right?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Well? Enjoy that half this on the carpet downstairs?
Speaker 7 (40:06):
But yeah, did you fall or did you just dropped out?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I'm going to turn to bang something and fell on
the floor.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
And carpal tunnel's a bitch, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
And I only said the F bomb three and seventy
four times.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Which is nice because it's usually three thousand. Well, buddy, listen,
I thank you for popping on. Do you want to
tell people where.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
To find you. Yeah, it's at at the franchise SD
on Twitter, the for everybody out there, the Facebook page,
the Shamee the franchise Douglas. I know I'm the franchise
Shamee Douglas. My publisher set it up years ago and
I had a year or two ago try to get
on there. The recovery. Somebody's hijacked it, so whatever's being
(40:55):
put up on there, I have no idea, but the
recovery phone, numbered, email and everything is unknown to me
whoever it is. So as of right now, right now
it's Twitter.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Okay, yeah, so he's on Twitter and go to franchise
as friends and subscribe to that. We need to make
that page grow so they'll have us back to do
around two.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yes. But and again, everybody out there, please send in
your suggestions if you see something you think would make
those better. This is very much a work in progress
right now. We've got a great team working on it,
but we're our ears are all open, so please send
in ideas for questions you'd like to get answered. Some
production thing you think could be better. Don't hesitate to
(41:38):
us because we don't. We we're from the generation that
took criticism very well or else.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, and I just want to keep saying ah.
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