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July 17, 2025 • 23 mins

From the Eyes Up Here vault! In this flashback episode, Francine revisits some of the wildest headlines and conversations from the world of wrestling and beyond. She talks about the bizarre moment Kevin Nash’s name came up during the Depp vs. Heard trial, breaks down uncomfortable fan interactions with female wrestlers at meet and greets, and reacts to the social media heat aimed at Mickie James, with some fans demanding she speak out. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
All right, let's you get to go in right here,
right now. This is Eyes up here, and you're listening
and watching the brand new Eyes up here. So you
didn't know by now. My name is Chad and every
single week I'm joined hereby the one and only Queen
of Extreme of Miss Francy.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I just hit my Charlie's chip Jar.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
That was great on the live stream last week that
dude was talking out about the Charlie's show.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
My Love the Charles chip Jar.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
We got a lot of like stuff to talk about.
I've been I've been pulling stuff like crazy. Uh, because
I'm curious to catch your take on a few of them.
But I want to start. We have Disney, so they're
from Disney. I have something from entertainment, and I have
a lot of wrestling. So what do you want to
do first? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Well, let's do the wrestling, because I know a lot
of fans tell me I don't talk about wrestling enough
on this show. I need to educate myself. Yes, and
I'm giving you guys the finger right now see.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Video member audio video. Yeah, let's start with wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
There was a lot of weddings in wrestling.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
There were a lot of weddings, and.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
You know, I love a good wedding, Okay, I love
like I loved watching the Royal Family, the Brits get married.
I cried when they got married. Yeah, zee, sleeping babies
and gentleman. I just I think it's a beautiful thing.
And you know, I just it's funny. We were talking
before we went on the air and how times have

(02:04):
change and how different weddings are now than they were when,
like we even when we got married.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, way back when, way back in.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
The d.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
But I watched now.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
I saw pictures of the Carmela Corey Graves wedding. I
saw pictures and video of the Alexa Bliss and.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Ryan Brera wedding.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
And I saw a little bit of the video of
the Scarlet and Killers Cross wedding. Yes, okay, very elaborate,
very elaborate stuff. Now, the one that struck me as
the one I want to attend. If I had to
pick one out of the three, I would have chose

(02:52):
the Alexa Bliss wedding.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Girl.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I agree, that girl knows.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
How to party. She had in sync singing on the
stage and she.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Was in the background doing her bye Bye Bye video
and it looked so fun and just that's what I like.
It looked a little more I don't want to say
easy going, but it was like the other the scarlet
and Killer Cross looked like it was like for a
Lifetime movie. It was very elaborate, and it was beautiful,

(03:25):
don't get me wrong, absolutely breathtaking. But like, who can
do all this stuff in their life? Look at this,
I'm not it not knocking it. She looked all three
brides absolutely gorgeous, absolutely breathtaking. This looks like it's out
of a movie. This doesn't even look real to me, Like,

(03:46):
who does this? It's amazing, and God bless them because
they can afford to do this stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
But this look how Cutie looks.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
He's looking at her like so happy, Like it's just
it's this is mind blowing to me. Look at these views.
We're watching video of them right now. This is a
fairy tale. This reminds me of a Disney a Lifetime movie.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Just a fairy tale.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
And good for them that they got to do this
because they will remember it for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yes, but like, who does this now in twenty years
if they're still married. God Willian and Hope they are
come on now, they're gonna say, oh my god, we
spent so much unneeded money on this world.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
But that's that's the thing. They have it.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
They have this memory for a lifetime. They have these
gorgeous pictures. They have this elaborate video. I just watched
it and I just said to myself, is.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
This real life? Is this a movie? Like? Do people?
Is this the extent that people go to now to
get married? Yeah? That was unbelievable to me.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Gorgeous, It was a little, a little over the top.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm not jelly. I'm mesmerized, is what I am.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
But it's funny you say that about the Alexa Bliss
Ryan Cabrera one, because that one looked like fun.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
I mean that looked like, I guess, down the earth.
I don't know what to call it.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
That looked like a good time, like I want to
go there and have a couple of drinks and get
my grieva on on the dance floor.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
We didn't. I didn't see any of the reception of
the others.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm sure maybe it was fun, I don't know, but
this one just it just was a fairy tale, and
I mean awesome for her because I guess every girl
dreams of this kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
You know. I got married in a church, and I
was telling you.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
We went to some park, we took some pictures, and
then we had our reception, and man, you know, my
dad did the best that he could because my dad
worked for Septa and he was a bus driver.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
We were not rich by any means whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
But he gave me what he could and I had
my family and my friends there and I was completely okay,
within and completely happy, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Uh, still married.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Very good.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
That has to say something.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
It definitely does.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
But they you know, you look.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
At what they're doing today and it's just like it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
All right. Now, how about this? Have you seen this
picture floating around?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Probably I have, Yes, I did, and she wrote a
whole statement on it.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yes, yeah, okay, so I brought up the article about it.
It's uh, it's interesting because what happened was is that
the fans are what caused the controversy, not the photo.
The photo was. It was just a guy who posted
his picture with Mickey James taking it Wreussell Cot. It says,
this is my favorite picture of me and Mickey James.

(06:54):
It's like we're going to the prom. I love you,
Mickey James, right right. People took that and ran with
it and basically, you know, called the guy a creep,
said this is just a typical wrestling fan, you know,
this is what they do with the way they treat women,
and Mickey James came out and posted a very I mean,

(07:15):
just unbelievable response. I mean, I was so taken with
how well she wrote that and gave all the details
to call everyone out, say you're wrong. This guy contributed
a lot of money that went to charity. Ye, and
this is I believe it. Did she say this was
her suggestion to pose like this?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yes, she did, I believe.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
So what do you think when you saw this? When
you first saw what did you think? And then what
do you think about the situation.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
When I first saw the picture, I said to myself
that it's funny because when I take pictures with gentlemen
at these conventions, I always go, oh, it's like the
prom let's take a prom picture.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I always say that.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I've heard you say that. I hear say that because.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
It reminds me of a prom picture, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Because you're kind of it's kind of it's kind of awkward,
but in the same token, it's kind of funny because
you have everything but the corsage or the flowers, and
you're just kind of posing with the guy.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
You either get the guys that are all over you
or you get the ones that are afraid to touch
you and their their hands are like this, their arms
are to their sides and you literally have to put
your hand on their shoulder to make it like a
little more personal. When I saw that picture, I never
judge because I know what it's like and I know
how these guys feel, and fans don't understand like words

(08:35):
can hurt, right, a lot of these fans could be
bullies and they can say things they don't.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Know the people.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
They took it as the you know, the guy is
creepy or what a typical Rustling fan, you're creepy And
just like the video we put up this week on
YouTube with Vince Russo calling the marks creepy and smelly and.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Those you know.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
To me, if a fan pays for a picture, I
don't mind doing that kind of poe. They're paying for
the picture, if they're respectful, if they keep their hands
to themselves. I don't mind, you know. And sometimes they
want a funny picture, I'll do a funny picture.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I just feel like people who.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Don't know certain situations should just keep their mouth shut.
And my mom always said, and I'm sure your mom
said the same thing. If you don't have anything nice
to say, shut the hell up, you.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Like you're a keyboard warrior. What's it going to do
when you comment or a picture. It's just gonna make
the other people feel bad.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
So what's the point. There is no point. If Mickey
was okay with the picture, which apparently she was the
picture was taken, who cares?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Now if you came up to me and said, well,
I want to do a picture where you're bent over
and or this, and you're not, and I.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Whoa, whoa, I'm not gonna bend the but cheeks and.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
You like, that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
But you know, people usually ask ahead of time, can
I can we pose in this way?

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Can I put my hand here? Can we do that? Sure?
It's fine, you're paying however much money you're paying for
the picture, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
No? And then in this guy's case, he's a really
cool guy. He's helped with the charity he bought all
the dresses. You know, she was happy to take the picture,
So good on her for justifying that and clearing things up.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, she said, the reason I asked Leonard to take
this what I thought would be a fun photo with me,
is because they knew he was currently bidding on a
bunch of the dresses, one being mine. Over the past
two Dresselmania events, Leonard has personally donated close to four
thousand dollars sort of charities, two thousand being that of
my dress alone that he ended up winning this year. Yes,

(10:57):
I was uncomfortable, not because of the picture, but because
at this point I was exhausted. My shoes sucked, My
body was hurting from two matches, from signing all three days,
from decorating, prepping and putting on this event. Crying my
eyes out for the entirety of it, all over the
amount of personal stories shared by our peers of our
own struggles and victories. Wow, And you could tell on

(11:19):
her face she's just got like a little grin on.
You know, it's it's probably later in the day, you know,
she just she looks tired. But I mean she she's
she was a marquee player for you know, a lot
of events, the nw A. She's she's active. I think
she's still one of their champions.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
So yeah, she's still working on an impact and n
w A and stuff, and you know, yeah, and she
you know, she did it.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
She did the photo. Nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
And I you know, I applaud her for coming to
the aid of this gentleman and you know, shutting everybody up.
Good good for her, and and you know, good on
him for all the money that he don't And you know,
if he gave me four thousand dollars and one to
take a prop pick, I'd be like.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Let's go. I don't I'll weed up my flowers. I
don't care. But it's you know, you never know the situation,
so just don't comment. Don't be that guy.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, just a comments. She was responding to a lot
of stuff. Just it's it was interesting. Yeah, but that
poor guy, you know, like and what if that deters
him from posting another picture, right, you know, contributing to
another charity.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
It shouldn't because like, no, because Mickey came to his aid,
and you know that that's better than probably anything. It
shows him that.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
She cares, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
So you know it.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Worked out in the end, but people are so cruel.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
It's just Twitter can be wonderful and it can also
be toxic, you know. And I just that's why I
won't let my kids get social media. I'm just I'm
not in it.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
No, God, no, no, what it's even going to be
like in two or three years.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
But my daughter is going to be thirteen and she's
just like mom, and I'm just like, no, you're not.
You're still too young, and I will not let you
have it. I'm sorry. My son could care. He couldn't
care less. He doesn't even you don't care. They got
legos on that thing, Yeah, exactly to give them babies for.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
As long as I you.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yes, Oh my god, yes, terrible.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
It's a terrible place to be right now.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
All right. This is an entertainment story, okay that I'm
wondering if you're following, But it's got a wrestling tie in.
So this is why I wonder if you saw this,
have you followed the Johnny Depp amber heard divorce? Not
to really, it's it's a defamation suit that they're both
serving each other with and they're they're having a court

(13:52):
battle right outside my area here in Fairfax, Virginia. Have
you followed this at all?

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I followed a little bit of it. I've seen to where.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
First of all, Johnny Depp said he will never do
another Disney Pirates of the Caribbean movie again.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
I didn't read why.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I didn't read why either. I was just like you
would you would be surprised because he looks like he's
in the costume phase with the way he looks. He
looks exactly like Jack Sparrow.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Well he is Jack Sparrow.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
But I saw something where what were they talking about.
They were talking about like his finger when he was
in the hospital with his finger, talking about her beating
him up.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
The witnesses.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
At first I thought we're all on Johnny's side, but
then somebody had said something about him doing something to her,
and I was just like, I'm so lost right now,
I can't There were every time I opened social media
there was a picture of them and a news story.
I felt like if I didn't scroll back to day one,
I'd be lost in the shuffle.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
So I just I haven't read any of it.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
I watched his testimony from the first day that he
was on the stand. And it's hard to take an
actor seriously when they're on the stand because you think
that they're acting right. And I don't know. I think
Johnny Debs from California, but he's apparently like part British
because he's got like a British twang. Yeah, like that's

(15:26):
what I'm saying. Like it's like he's trying to be
Jack Sparrow while he's on the He's got the eye
makeup on, you know, he's got his little glasses, he's
got like the hair is pulled back, like he looks
like he's going for a Pirates costume fitting. And it's
just like, you know, she said shit about him. He
said a lot of nasty stuff about her, and a
text message. He's got audio recordings of her saying that

(15:49):
she's gonna kill him and that she's gonna be the
ass and all this stuff he called her, you know,
all these vile names via text that he wanted to
bury her and he wanted to send her out into
the you know fields, Can I just do Wroe?

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Why why are they fighting? Did the marriage just go around?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:07):
They're cheating involved.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Or well there's accusations. So apparently Johnny Depp was the
possessive one and didn't want her cavorting and being out
there and you know, maybe getting into trouble. And one
movie set in particular has been brought up and the

(16:30):
research by the investigators of Twitter has revealed a very
cool little wrinkle to the story. Okay, so the there
was a rap party for a movie that she was
a part of that during the rap party, Johnny Depp
couldn't get a hold of her and was freaking out

(16:50):
and was blowing everybody up and was wondering where she was.
And through the magic of Twitter that people were able
to pinpoint exactly where she was, who she was with,
and the rap party of the movie she was at.
Would you like to see the photo evidence of who.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
She was with?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
This is great? You ready for this? Yeah, somebody get
my my wolfpack. Wu she was with Kevin Nash.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Holy crap at.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
The Magic Mike wrap party. Oh no, it's not just
that picture. It's also this picture as well.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
So wait, she was in Magic Mike or the.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I guess she was in Magic Mike. This is that
was the wrap party for Magic Mike in twenty fourteen.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
So did they have an affair.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, I don't know if there was an affair, but
we know there's you know, Kevin, Kevin Nash a party.
He's a pretty, you know, outgoing kind of guy. You know,
he's had a man this good story out there, you
know about his uh, his prowess. But this night Johnny

(18:08):
Depp couldn't get a hold of Amber and was freaking
the fuck out. And this picture was taken the night
of this rap party, and Kevin Nash posted a thing
about how she's a beautiful soul and he misses her
being around and he had such a great time being
with her on this movie. And uh, yeah, Kevin Nash
married to he is, Yes, he is married. Oh, I

(18:35):
would be quite upset if my if my wife took
that picture in a bar.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I mean, wow, did did uh? Did Kevin make any comments.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
The last I saw?

Speaker 3 (18:49):
No, Okay, staying out of it.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
But I'd be looking at this guy. He ain't called
big sexy for nothing.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I mean, do you think Johnny Depp stands a chance
against Kevin?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Here?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Look, here's what Johnny Depp looks like at the thing.
He looks like Jack Sparrow.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I mean, there's a sexiness to Johnny Depp. There really
is he he has an r about him. He's I
wouldn't call him like a handsome man, but he's a
sexy man.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
That's my take.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Was very finely dressed.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
I was like, oh, he looks impeccable. I mean, look
at the look at that suit.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Give him a little pirate hat though.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Now he looks he looks handsome there though that's a
nice picture of him.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
He looks good there. But I find he's got sex appeal.
He does.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
And there's this guy I never saw that picture. Wow amazing.
If she was holding up the too sweet every guy
would have popped you.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
And that's what you know. And in that movie for
Kevin Nash, I mean that was a huge blockbuster to
be a part of, like that, yeah, you know, even
though the machine's yeah right, even though in that movie he's,
you know, like the older, washed up dancer. He so
it's in a major, multi million dollar blockbuster hit that

(20:14):
got a sequel because it did so well.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Book me as a grandmom, I'll do it. I have
no shame, fifty year old grandma, who cares?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I bet you amber heard just flocked him just because
he's cool. He's just got a cool essence to him too,
probably just as much as Johnny Depp does.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
And how old is she? She looked very young.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I think she's in her thirties. I think she's early thirties.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
She looked like she was in her twenties and those pictures, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
She looks young there. Actually I don't have her age really,
but she's Yeah, she's younger.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
But hey, Sary, how old is Amber? Heard? Thirty six?
Just thirty six years old? Thank you Siri. I always
thank Siri when I'm done with so that.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
So she's twenty twenty eight there, Okay, so's.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Her twenties in that picture. But wow.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, I saw Kevin Nash trending and I was like, oh, why, well, what.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
If he got called to like testify on the night
of the match?

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Party? Crazy? That's why I just stay home most of
the time, Like I don't.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Here, look at look at him with the sunglasses on. Here,
look at that. He looks like he's getting ready for
the Pirates movie.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Well, he's always had that look about him. Have you
ever seen him.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Just look like a normal way back in the day.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
I mean no, he's always had this cool look to him.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I agree, he definitely has.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
He's a real life pirate.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
All right.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, that's all I got. I just had a lot
of stuff written down.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
It was a full news week. That's why we were like,
we don't even need a guest this week.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
We can just discuss.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
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of professional wrestling. And there was a lot across the board.
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