March 6, 2025 • 50 mins
In this special flashback episode of Eyes Up Here, ECW's Francine welcomes Heath Slater to the show! Join them as they take a trip down memory lane, reminiscing about Heath's unforgettable moments in WWE and his journey through the world of professional wrestling. Don’t miss this fun and insightful conversation with one of the most entertaining stars in the business!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, you guys, this is impact for us.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
My SuperChargy. Y'all know him, you all love them. I
think I added something extra to.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The to the thing when I sent it to you.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I apologize. Where are you.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Thanks?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Going?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I cannot hear you? Oh no technical difficulty, I can
I can hear that that smooth, mellow voice. Fears come
on the Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
The headphones aren't working for some reason.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You don't need them, baby, It's just me and you
one on one. Baby, I see you. How you doing.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I'm good. I literally just got them watching The Little Mermaid,
the original, the new, the new one one.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, what do you think that? Can we discuss because
I'm a big Disney person.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
No, I enjoyed it. You did enjoy it, Yes, I mean,
of course, you know. I mean you gotta change with
towns a little bit and a little bit was different,
of course, you know. But that that's when I happened,
just like in wrestling. But with the respect of the movie.
You know Ariel, the lady that played Ariel, I thought
she killed it and singing. I thought she did great
(01:44):
in acting. I think Melissa McCartney killed it. As Ursula.
Huge fan of Ursula.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I should have wore my Disney shirt. I had a
new clue.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Oay we did you know? Girls bore their aerial shirts.
I wore my Ursula. I'm a heel fan.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Let me tell you something. We go every year to Disney.
We went for sixteen days this year.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh, I tell you if my dream is to live
down there and become the Evil Queen, just.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
To live go in the audition for bail. I feel
like you can get it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You think, Yeah, I just want to be the Evil Queen.
I want to be in the parades.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Hey, that's better.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah. We go every year at the same time, and
like this, I keep adding a day. My husband doesn't
even know. I just add a day when I book it.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
And yeah, it's my wife's the same way. She is
the biggest Disney fanatic in the world, like up and
down ever since she was a kid. Like I mean
we go like probably every other year maybe okay, you know,
for kids and everything, but yeah, like she she she's
the one. They got me all in it, Like I
grew up loving Rocky and you know everything. Sevester Saloon
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and Arnold Swartzenegger.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Are you Are you watching the new reality show with
Sylvester slot Not not the Tulsa King. That's the show.
He's got a reality show with his kids and his wife.
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
They've been blowing up Arnold on Netflix, you know, like
all his old movies and everything's coming out. And then
they had a documentary about him, which was pretty good.
But there's a lot like coming out about him.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Now, what do you think of Frank Staloon? Because I
met Frank Staloon. No, not at all. No. I did
a signing in in California. It was like the Hollywood
Super signing or something years ago, years and years ago,
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and this guy comes wandering over to my table, and
you know, he's looking down at the pictures and I
love when they say, is that you No, it's so
much else, like right, of course.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And I was younger back then, so I could still
pass for the pictures. I was a little offended at first,
but he said he was Frank Stallone, right, So I'm like,
oh my god, yeah, you know, I know who you are.
And I love I put his brother over. I love
your brother, blah blah blah. And he starts to put
himself over of course, for like ten minutes, and I'm
(04:25):
like sitting there and he's like, don't I look good?
For fifty five I'm like, you look great, and he's
telling me all this stuff and how women are loving
them and blah blah blah. Yeah, just like you're the best. Frank.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Hey, did you give him a free eight ten and
a free picture? No?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But I did take a free selfie with them, because
do you want to take a picture with me? He said,
oh not really, but okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Would ask you where his table was at.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I don't know where he was, probably over here. I'm
sure we need a crowd control for table. But he
took a break to come say hello to me. So
I was thrilled. It was.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
What I saw.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I saw your instagram. You went to the Universal.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Universals and what is it, the one connected.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
United Islands of Adventure.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
There it is you know, you know everything. But yeah,
we went there and we literally did everything that you
can do, like in both parts. And the whole thing
was that when we went, it was a Christmas present
from Santa Claus to go to Harry Potter World. So
my wife is a huge Harry Potter fan. I don't
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get me wrong, I enjoy it too.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I don't know it, you know, in depth like she does,
but you know, I know a little bit. But my
girls love it also. So it was one of those
things where like, you know, Santa got us tickets to
go down there, and you know, so we got to
go to Harry Potter World.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Now, how old are your daughters?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
They are ten and nine.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okay, so.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
My oldest is about to turn eleven next month.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Okay, so they're still in the Santa Claus, well, I
want to.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Say, yes, okay, I'm whispering now because they are.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
But as one of those things, we're like, they're at
that point to where like, you know, they look at
me and they're like, Dad, like you're telling me that
this man can go around the whole world and visit
every kid and give him presents every year.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
One night, one night, Santa Claus said, you watch these movies.
Who has like that magic power where he can just
transform there. You know, they're just looking at me like
scratching their head.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Like working them.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You know, I'm trying to keep them young as long
as they can.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You have to as a parent, because my my daughter
is going to be fourteen this month and my son's eleven. Right,
so the since the pandemic, we pulled them from school.
We homeschool, okay, but when they were in regular school,
my daughter was about ten, and I was told around
ten is when they start talking in school and they
(07:07):
make fun of the kids who still believe in Santa. Yeah.
So I told her the truth one night, right before.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
It was.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It didn't end up well. It was the biggest mistake
because it was it was like nine thirty at night
and I'm like I'm with her, I'm laying with her
in bed, and I'm like, you know, Christmas is coming
up soon, and she's like, yeah, face is all lit
up and my heart, my heart's beating, and uh. I
(07:40):
was like, so what do you think of this Santa
Claus guy? And she's just like, uh, you know, I
like him. And I go, yeah, I go do you
do you ever wonder why, like when you go to
a mall or when you go to a store, it's
never the same guy. Do you ever wonder that? And
she's like, yeah, I kind of wondered that. And then
(08:02):
I just told her and we both started oh.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, that's what I'm not like, I'm not looking forward
to any of that because I think about it. Once
Santa's gone, it's the tooth fairy Easter Bunny, It's it's
all gone. It's again, you know. You know, it's like,
oh no, so now it's like all the magic will
(08:27):
be totally gone. So I'm trying all rainbows and sunshine.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Uniforn dust and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
All over here. We're never Land.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, if if if I was still homeschooling like prior,
I would have never told them. But I was so
afraid there's little snot news. Kids were gonna stooge it
off before me.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
They will, they will, I mean that, that's why, Like
they would come to come to me and ask me
about it, and I'm just like, if you believe it's there,
you know, you.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Know I love that. I love seeing picts of your kids.
I love being a parent, I love seeing other parents stuff. Yeah,
I really enjoy I like the wrestling stuff, but but
the home life and the parents and the kids that
warms my heart.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So I love we do wrestling stuff too much. You know.
It's it's what's after that.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
You know, it's talk about that. We do have to
talk about it a little bit though, because yeah, it's
just a little bit. This is a very casual What
are you drinking by I was going to try and
get some moonshine and sip it with you, but come.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
On, favorite, But I'm just saying it was in the
fridge after so I grabbed a couple so I could
have some.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You're a man, Heath, you don't men don't drink white cloth.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
A man can drink whatever they want, just like women.
Let's be honest. You know I don't have to always
drink dark liquor and hard booze. You know, you know
I can have a little little seltzer here and there.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Right, I thought you were gonna have this gigantic Mason.
You are full of this moonshine.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
You just don't need to tell stories about to God.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Please, they already know I posted in it was terrible anyway.
So let's talk about you and wrestling, Big Impact Star.
You know what I love you for that you want
a big star and Impact. It's the truth one please.
(10:33):
I love the fact that you and Rhino were like
b ffs in w W E and then you both
go to this separate organization and you fall right back
into where you were before. Yeah, did you ask for
that or did were they just like, yeah, let's just
keep you guys together because you have a click chemistry.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I kind of feel like it just was one of
those like natural things that they organic things that happened
now the whole store with me and Rhino's nuts, just
because the whole I was doing a free agent thing
because I didn't get drafted in WWE.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I remember that, Yes I did.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
So lights went out on me. I'm the last man
in the room, and I'll just break out the room
raising hell fast forward. I'm supposed to be going for
the inter Continental title. So they were going to do
this little thing called like like a He'll Billy versus
Hollywood with me and the Miz for the Icy title. Okay,
(11:33):
and then that that was what was set in place,
and then Rhino got brought up. They were shifting gears
so much up there to where it was like they
were changing brands and splitting stuff up, and they were
going to have a SmackDown brand, a raw brand, new
titles and everything. And then somehow in some meeting instead
(11:54):
of me and Miz going this way for the icy title.
I got shifted this way to go for the tag
title with right, no, okay, and I'm just sitting there like, well,
in my mind at the time, I was just like.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
What the hell.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
You know, I've already had the tag title three damn times.
You know, I don't need it anymore, you know, I
want to go with the IC title. I mean, let
me elevate, you know, move me up. You know, like
this makes the second time I was supposed to go
that way and I'm not going that way, Like what
the hell. But in the long run of things, I
(12:27):
actually enjoyed myself with Rhino. He is one hundred percent
one of my best friends now. He's amazing and like
he taught me a lot about the business also, like
stuff that I didn't realize and like really looked at,
you know, throughout the years. But it was one of
those things like I traded an ICEE title run for
(12:47):
a best friend in life, so kind of worked out
for me.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I love, Yeah, I love that story. I've worked you
know in ECW. I worked with Rhino all the time.
I don't know how many times he goured me, but
he always apologized afterwards and checked on me, which was
very sweet. He's a great guy. I'm hoping one of
these days that you and I are booked on the
same night. Yeah, the insane. What's it called insane?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
He said he closed out the bar one night.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I was like, oh, everyone does.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
It's great. Yeah, it was a good time they you know,
when I came out, I managed Rhino. They didn't they
put some sin. They put some seventy pound ref through
a table and beat the hell out of them and stuff.
Music was playing and all I did was dance. I
feel like I'm in the go go bar, so I
was just on the outside dance. Oh yeah, the music
(13:45):
was glad. They were put up. Just a good time.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I love shows us a nice type knit like a show. Also,
it's literally it starts on the right time.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
It is.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I mean maybe two hours and fifteen minutes tops. It's
a perfect show.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You know you're nine huh we were done by nine.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah, that's the beauty about it. Like, I mean it's like,
hey man, we're run this many and you got timelinits
so you better hear that before I goore you you know.
So he runs a good ship there, like it's always
a fun spot to work at.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, well hopefully one of these days will be will
be there.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
If I say, maybe me and him cand tag and
you can manage us and.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Then I can dance while you're just you know, doing
your dance. I would love. Yeah, he didn't want to
dance with me for some reason. He was a sticking
of what about dancing?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Let me think about it. He's the man beast, he
has to be the tough guy. I'm known for shaking
my heads. I love it.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I see I see your videos. I know what you're about.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I love kids.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, that was one of my favorite gimmicks ever. No,
and I'm not just blowing smooth because I would watch
you and when it like it would always pop me
because I'm like, you know, what do you have a
job for?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
You got kids?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You got to pay the bills.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Up there. They don't really want to, you know, broadcast
that either, because like every man has to be a
sex symbol, just like the women. You know, we gotta
be single, we gotta have them wanting us and all
that stuff. And then literally I had a brain fart
in the promo with you know, Polly and brock Lesnar
and the whole Oh you know, what's my next line?
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What's my next line? And then of course you know,
Polly's the man the mic, like he do anything, so
he's like cutting it and I'm just like it'll come
back to me, and it never came back to me,
and I'm like, oh shit, So you know that's when
the whole you know, I got kids, I need this job.
Everyone here knows that you'll whoop my ass, but I
gotta do this.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
You just make that up on the fly.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I just had to shoot from the hip and then
what's the stuff that sticks? Man?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
It is?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
And then Paul he said the next line like and
then just kept going with it and he got me
back on track where I.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Was like, oh shoot, yeah, I love that. Yeah, that
was one of my That was one of my favorite
things that you've done, is the eye got Kid thing.
And I'm sure that T shirt told a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Oh it was probably the best one I had besides
like this one back here, that next this one, but yeah,
it was. It was. It was that home run hitter
for me for a little bit. And I mean it's
just one of those gimmicks that like me, I'm a storyteller,
Like yes, I can do these moves and stuff. Do
I want to know because my body hurts like hell anymore.
(16:39):
But uh, it's just one of those things that where
like I'm a storyteller, I'm an entertainer, you know, like
if I can seek my teeth in a good story, man,
I'll get it across as much as I can. And
I feel like with this I got kids. Gimmick was
just like a hell of like every dad, every mom.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Like, and this is why I do this.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
You know. I have to go to the grocery store
and back groceries for my kids. I have to work
at the bank. I have to go and dig these ditches.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I have to do this.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It's like a damn family man. So me trying to
fight for a contract. I have to fight guys like
brock Lester, Randy Orton, John Cena, you know, trying to
prove myself, you know them, and I have to do this.
And it just was one of those things where I
feel like people could relate to.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
You know. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're you are
the You're like the the everyday man that's on TV.
You're the working man's man. Yeah, and I like that
you you. You know, you're a superstar, but we can
relate to you because we're all appearance and we're all
(17:44):
in the same situation. But of course you have a
cooler job than I do because I'm sitting home when
you're on television, you know. But I love that gimmick.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I thought that was all the time. Also, like they're
always like man, you know, like your success or this
or that, And I literally just was like, man, like
I believe that anyone can honestly do whatever they really
set their mind to and love Like, if.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
You want to be an astronaut, damn it, go out
there and be trying to be the best damn astronaut
you can. You know, if you want to be a scientist,
like dedicate yourself and put the time towards it and
do it.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Like I came from a town in the like littlest
town in West Virginia, Like seven hundred people was in
my town, you know what I mean, And I had
a dream to be a professional wrestler and did it.
Like it's one of those things where like I know
for a fact, everyone's looking at me, like, man, this
damn kid look at him, thinking that he's gonna be
a superstar of their wrestling, you know, and look right,
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you know, it's one of those things where I know
there was doubt the It's like my friends that actually
have had my back, and there was only like four
of them, and I still talk to them today like
that's how close we are. I'll rest of them would
say that, but then behind my back on man whatever,
you know, he ain't gonna do it, and like they
would tell me, so I know these things, like i'llviously
(19:00):
they don't know that I know, but it was one
of those things. But it's like through through that pieces
of wood on my fire to get me going more,
you know. But I just I'm a believer. And if
you if you dedicate yourself to something and you put it,
put it first and go for it, like my goodness, man,
like you can't fail. You can't fail.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You know, you miss every shot you don't take.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, that's yeah, it's a fact. Yeah. And now like
now I got like a good fifty fifty split with impact,
you know, to where like I get to wrestle, but
I get to be dad too because like with WWE,
man it was I was gone five days a week, brutal.
Then I would get home on a Wednesday and on
a Zombie and then on Thursday I'm super Dad. Then
(19:49):
Friday morning I'm flying.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Back out right. Yeah, the impact is a later schedule,
which is great, but you still get that TV time
that you need and I love it. I think it's great.
Do you have a question for you right here, Angela
high Sweetheart, fight dollars, super Chat. She says, Heath, what
has been the most painful bump you have ever taken?
And has a spot ever going terribly wrong for you
(20:11):
during a match? Angela, You're going into Charles chip Yard. Honey,
thank you so much. Hei. Do you want to answer that?
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yes, all right, all right. One of the most painful
bumps I ever taken was back when I was in
Green Little Nexus member fighting on the road. You know,
we were the young boys coming up and Big Show
and Cain had a brother choke slam and a green
boy choke slam, did they oh, buddy? And trust me,
(20:40):
I have felt the difference between both of them all
during next US and Core days. We were young. We
were just hey, man, we're here to do a thing.
We're having fun, blah blah blah. You know, we just
were living our life. And whenever we went up for
the big guys and me and Gabriel, justin Gabriel, we
(21:02):
would jump with with PJ. Black now and we would
jump with them to to to where it's like their
arms are extended and we're like nine feet in the air,
you know, and we would take those bumps, but they
would drive us in the mats to where we're just like,
holy crap, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Try to interrupt you and ask you a question. Have
follows with this because I've talked about this before, Like
I I don't know what it is. Maybe because I'm female,
I don't understand. When we would have people come in
for tryouts, right, I'm not going to name who, but
some of the guys were rougher on these kids than others,
(21:42):
and to the point where they would make the kids
cry and want to quit. Now you're laughing. I felt
bad every single time I would watch it.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Good heart well to me, it's like when.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I was brought in, Yeah, well well I was. You know,
I've been this is thirty years. I'm associated, I'm old.
You know, I've been around the block. I know what's
going on. So this is the nineties, and I know
they did things maybe different than they do now. I
don't know, But I was always taught you protect the
person that you're working with. Of course, never stiff them
unless it becomes a shoot, and then you got to
(22:20):
protect yourself, you know. But for ninety nine point nine
percent of the time that I worked, I've never heard
anybody and no one's ever really hurt me, for sure.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
And I can honestly say the same thing about my
career too. But like I feel like in that pecking order,
you're coming up, you're getting a little This is just
the men mentality, like how men come here. I feel
like it's just one of those pecking orders to where
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once you earn the respect and they see you there
and they see you try and they know they're driving
you in the mat, but they're put. They never landed
me too high on my neck. They never landed me
on my head. They landed me flat, but it was
a stiff flat, you know, but it was flat. Like
I could never say that they ever ever hurt me
(23:11):
or anything. I mean, of course the bump hurt. I mean,
you're eight foot in the air, you know. But no,
I feel like it's just like a little pecking order,
like a can this can take it? Does he want
to take it? Does he really want to be here?
That's my mentality about it. And of course you don't bitch,
you don't complain, and the next thing you know, you
show up the next day, you get it again. You
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show up the next day, you get it again, and
then next thing you know, six months later you pick
it up and you just don't feel nothing. Yeah, like,
what the hell was that?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Like this the same guy?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Hold on, how talk to me? What happened there?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
And you totally felt the difference. Instead of a woosh,
you felt you fell out and then like a smooth
like they went down with you. And I'm just literally
I remember I was in the UK at the O
two arena and Big Show gave me the Brother choke
(24:12):
Slam the where I literally I don't even think I
sold it. I think I just looked at him like, broa,
what happened? How did I not feel nothing? I don't
even think I saw it.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
The worst is when you're selling and you're like your
eyes are closed for a second and they try to
stomp you, but you don't feel it, so you don't
sell it and you're like, oh my god, what just
happened yet. Oh my god, that's hilarious. We have another
(24:45):
question for your sweetheart, John John five is here high
five dollars super Chat Insane Wrestling Revolutionist Rhino show in Monroe, Michigan.
And that's where I met you, John, Yes, that one time,
John John, those two Rhino shows, so you probably.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Oh yeah, I'm sure he met I saw John there. Yeah, yeah, right,
there's the name of the show I w R.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I told you, Yeah, Insane Wrestling Revolution Thank you John
for that, Uh that gem of information.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I don't remember nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
We don't know anything, you know what I do know talking.
Let's go back. You said you were on a quest
for the IC title, but recently you beat Mac Cardona.
Oh yeah, how did that happen or did you know
hardcore that night?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
I went hardcore that I saw pictures.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I would love to see the match. Yeah, I'm looking
for the tea.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
It was one of those things to where like we
were in Beckley, West Virginia, where pretty much is my hometown,
Like my actual hometown is Powerable and it's only like
thirty minutes away, so it's just like it was a
packed house. Like yeah, and as w Gary Damren's show
up there, like he literally he knows what he's doing.
(25:57):
He packs the houses, he promotes very well. I mean
he has catering in the back for the boys. Like
he's that promoter where you're like, hell, yeah, man, like
thank you for doing this for us. So yeah, me
and Cardona. Cardona wasn't a Chace for about a year
and we had a cage match and oh so what
(26:21):
makes this story the best is that, of course I won,
but congratuation. The best thing about it is that so
we had this guitar and everything, you know for the match,
a spot in the match, you know. So my buddy
was like messing with them, making sure it was good
and all that stuff. And the whole time, my kids
(26:45):
and my wife was in Tennessee doing play camp and
they go there for like six days and they learn
to play. Like last year it was Peter Pan, this
year it was Beauty and the Beast. So they're there
doing play camp this and that, and I was just like,
you know what, it's gonna stuck, y'all going to miss
this show because it's gonna be a pretty good one.
But it's all good. This and that next thing, you know,
(27:08):
my buddy Matt's texting me he's the guy that sings
my song. Actually, the music that I come out to.
He's the he's the musician that plays it.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Huh an impact.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, the song that I came out to. So my
buddy's up there and he's playing me to the ring,
you know. So that's like it's like a Rastlemania live
band moment.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Oh, that's so fun.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
It was really cool. So he's calling me on my phone.
He's like, dude, come down here and check this guitar
out and tell me you think it's good. So I
go down there to check it out and he's like,
it's right over there, and he like points over to
the side. So I turn around. There's my wife and
my two girls, and I'm just like, whoa what you know?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And they're just like, yeah, we made.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Up blah blah blah this and that. So it was
like a good moment there. So I remember I looked
at Cardon and I said, bro, you better be ready, man,
my kids are hearing it out.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, order he pissed off.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Your daughter slipped it right off. But what was what
was awesome was the fact that she literally didn't back down.
And just gave it like right back to it and
you know to where I popped so huge, Yes, little girl,
don't you back for you? It was such an awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Oh that's great. Yeah, I'm hoping there's a VHS tape
swirling around that I could get my watch this, I
I think so.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I saw the pictures and I was like, damn. I
get the occasional text message from Gary or from Steve, right,
we gotta get you down here, we gotta get you,
and I'm like, I'm here. The one time I was
booked was I think it was last year for the
big bashing Beckley. But I even did a promo like
(28:56):
the Lady came on and I had to do a
promo on you know, on film for it and everything
for the news or whatever. And then I wake up
at six o'clock to go to the airport and they're like,
your flight's canceled and I couldn't get a flight because
you guys live in the stick.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
You how about Charleston? Right.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I tried everything that day and then the cheapest ticket
was like over a grand.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yeah, the best thing if that ever happens again, I
know that Rowanokee Virginia is a bigger airport and it's
probably about a good hour and forty minutes away. Yeah
well if you, if so, if Gary would be like,
all right, I got someone to drive you. Boom boom
boom bam, you can get a flight anywhere. Pretty much
(29:42):
from that it.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Was I was crying. Oh, I was so upset. I
bought a dress, I bought shoes. Oh yeah, I bought
so much stuff for this because I thought it was
going to be like a big like a big show,
like yeah, you know, and that's so I said, Oh,
I'm gonna buy all new gear and it's going to
be good. I can't wait and bubble. I was working
with Brian and Shane, and then those bastards send me
(30:05):
a picture with some ninety year old lady and they're like, oh,
here's the queen. She showed up. They were it was me,
but it was so old broad and I was just
like that embarrassing, put it all over socials. This is Fritzy.
She was literally like a ninety year old grandma. She
was just button. They were pretending it was me. Yeah,
of course they were. But I was so upset because
(30:26):
I wanted to come so badly, and I never got
to work there, So maybe someday I'll be there as well.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I don't fash Number four is going to be in June,
also next year.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I know the promoter, you know, put a word in
before I turned sixty. I mean, you know it's coming
ten years nine. Yeah, I got a little bit breathing room,
but I would like to do it before I get
too old that I can't even move anymore. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I'm sixty, They'll be walking down there doing.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Your Hell No, I hope I'm not in this business
at age sixty with the free this is gonna be
too much for me.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Kim.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I'm sorry, Kim want do you want to finish your thought?
And then we have a question for you.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Oh, I don't remember what my thought was.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
We were talking about being being old in sixty and
being at ringside that's going to be terrible.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Terrible, and we mentioned that we weren't talking about it anyway.
Let's go on to that next question.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Oh it's our girl, Kim uh to seventy nine Canadian
super Chat. I have no idea what that equals, but
how are you liking impact so far?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Heath honestly, I love it, like Impact all right, in
a brief, like little summary of Impact for me. I
got released from WWE three months later, went to Impact
in the COVID days where there's no people, and it
was weird and sucked ass. Excuse me, I didn't mean
(31:58):
to say that weird, Yeah, but it was horrible. We
hated it. It was like wrestling practice matches all the time.
We knew the camera everyone was seeing it. But it's
always good to feel the energy, you know what I mean.
They have to. But I got hurt like six months
after COVID hit and I was out, and I already
signed a deal with Impact for two years. But they
(32:21):
honored my contract, didn't shoot me to the side. They
you know, extended my contract that paid me while I
was hurt to where it was just like I got
to tip my hat to Scott the Moore and all
of them, like yeah, they're they're stand up people. They're
good people, they really are. And so like once that
happened and I came back and I started getting in
(32:41):
the mix, and I started meeting the locker room and
getting to know everybody and everything. Man like if they
wanted to sign me for two more years, I would
like no bs. Like it's a good atmosphere. There's a
great locker room. People works together. They don't try to
stab you in the back. They're just, uh, they're good people.
Like it's a good, very good locker room. And even
(33:04):
like the management, you know, it's it's lean is very
leanuit Like is that the word lean?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You lean?
Speaker 4 (33:11):
You there you go my tongue. It's it's one of those.
And like like I get to I get to go
and wrestle. You get my fix in wrestling, because you know,
that's what I do it for. But I get to
have my time at home too, you know where like
I get to be daddy. I get to watch movies
and play, you know outside of my girls, and you
(33:33):
know we go to David Busters and everything. We have.
We have a blast, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I love that. Yeah. And you know what I I worked.
I worked for Impact the first the first year that
they opened. I was on the first show when it
was TNA you had to pay the ten dollars to watch.
That's when I worked there. But the night that we
drank the moonshine. Uh, you know, Brian had a little
(34:00):
party in his room. Oh yeah, and inlighted Shane and
I and my girlfriend Betty was with us, and I
was a little apprehensive because I was just like, oh,
they're so much younger. I don't think they will want
to hang out with with me. I'm so old and
blah blah blah. Because I didn't know this. I didn't
really know anybody. But Brillian, let me tell you something.
Those girls were the nicest.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Group of girls.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
And we drank and hung out and told stories and
I was like, I love impact. I love these girls.
I want to work here someday. But even the guys,
the guys, and they were everybody was so respectful and
my hand and sweet. Yeah, and reminded me of like
E c W with the family atmosphere that we had.
(34:45):
I felt it in that room that night, and everybody
was good. They were genuinely seemed like they were good people.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
I feel the same exact way, like what you just said.
I felt the same way whenever I started getting to.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Know them all.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yeah, because I I'm always that god that keeps my
guard up. But I don't know why. Like I read
the room, I like before I talk to anyone, you know,
it's like that, It's like that that thing that way,
like you just don't know, you know, you don't know
no one's intentions. You don't really know, like I've been
burned before to where like I'm just like all right,
I ain't gonna follow that ship again, you know. So
(35:20):
it's just from where like I keep my guard up,
you know, just like boxing, you keep it up, keep moving.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Duck weed.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
It's where you came from, though, I mean, think about it,
w W. I always compare it like when I went
from ECW to w W, it was like apples and oranges.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It was.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
It was like the most laid back, uh safe locker
room where I trusted every single person. To now go
into this locker room where I don't know these people
that well and everybody wants to stab me in the
back because nobody wants me here, and it and it
puts you on edge, and I didn't enjoy my time.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Oh yeah, you know that was whenever I first got
up in WWE. I mean Triple h you know, Undertaker,
all those boys were still on top, you know, they
they were running the game. It was wild wild West rules,
and it was you're walking on eggshells. You're trying your
best not to, you know, you know, ruffle any feathers.
(36:20):
You're trying to make sure you hit your spots. You know,
you don't want to mess up in the ring like
it's it's it's it's it's intimidating.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
It's intention you can't enjoy yourself, and you like you're
enjoying yourself, not that you were. Like your work ethics
speaks for itself. You're a great worker, and I can
see that in WWE. But when I look at you
in Impact, your face exubes happiness. See it's a different
vibe and I like that. It's more laid back and
(36:50):
I like that. And you could just tell that you're
having a really good time and that and that shows
I do see it. I do see it. We have
a question for you for ninety nine you were chat
from Vinnie h. Heath. Was your cool w w E
Legends program, your idea of the company. Did you have
a request which legend you wanted to work with?
Speaker 4 (37:12):
It was awesome, the it was awesome, It was amazing.
I loved it. But no, it was literally this leading
up to Raw one thousand. Next thing, you know, I
had to wrestle Vader and they picked me to be
the very first guy to work Vader on the night
(37:34):
that they were starting to bring the legends in. So
they're already pre planned bringing the legends in, but they
never pre planned who was going to work them all.
So okay, So it was one of those things where
once I got in there, I thought it was a joke.
You know, like you know, you show up to tr
you walk in there, Mark karn I was like, oh,
you're here, Okay, check you out. Sign this for this license,
(37:57):
sign that for that license, blah blah blah. So behind Mark,
you know, they always had to run sheet. So you're
looking at it and everything, and like you know, down
the cart, I'm looking as like Heaths Slater versus Vader,
and I'm just like what the hell, Like, hold on,
this is real. But like like you're talking about big
fan Vader, like the real dude, or like Swaggle there
(38:19):
were Swaggle gonna come out dresses Vader and what my ass?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Oh that would have been fun.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Hey, I'm telling you, I had to lose the Swaggle
in the COWSU. So like they come on now, you know,
and then and this is what cracks me up that
all these damn people out here, like, you know, I
hate to use the word marks, but they they talk
to you like this is real shits like oh, you
lost to this guy and this before, and you got
(38:45):
beat by a woman and you haven't won any matches.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
But I get a script that I have to follow it,
you know, asshole, they shut up, you know, like it's
one of those things like I'm just like brother, you
think like I can't beat up Swaggle on the cowcu
you can barely walk in it.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Elsey.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Well, you know what's worse. The dirt sheets now are
reporting news that's like supposed to be facts, but it's
angles that are being read on.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Teeth that people are going to believe it.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I know, but that's what I'm saying, like, is there's
no real news to report. You gotta put an angle
up as like you know, gospel, like it's real truth,
like me and you were arguing today and it's a
storyline obviously, but they're putting it and then people are like,
oh my god, I just saw them on Twitter. They
must have to repeat. I'm like, you know, people stop
(39:39):
reading this stuff.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
It's going it really is. It blows my mind at
what people believe and I mean, like, don't get me wrong,
like I know the whole ruin all this stuff, but
people come home. It's been dead for since nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Well yeah, and that's why your picture smiling next to
mac Hardona. There's a little bit of heat there exactly.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
You know what I'm so, that's one of those things.
It's like you don't have to.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Keep kicking a dad horse when it's down people, you know,
like we all we all want.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
To It's it's a show man. Yes, it's physical and
it hurts, but it's a show man, you know. Anyway,
Vader here, I am. I worked on this sheet. I'm like,
oh my goodness, I'm working Vader. Krono is this Vader?
Is this gonna be spuggled dressed up as Vader? Nah? Brother, Pal?
He always says, pal, Oh no, Pal, it's really Vader.
(40:29):
And I'm just like, oh crap. You know. So I
go to Rotundo. Mike Rotundo, I saw, was my agent.
So I'm like Mike hey Man, like like like, is
this happened like Vader Vader. He's like yeah, he was,
Like I think he was. Like at six o'clock we're
having a meeting with him to go over everything. I'm like, great,
I said, so is this, like, is there legends coming in?
(40:52):
Like what's happening? And he was like, well, they were
mentioning they're bringing legends in each week to leading up
to Raw one thousand, and I was like, am I
wrestling all of them? And he just was like he
was just like no, man, I think we're just gonna
switch in and out. I was like, no, no, no, no,
I want to be the guy who works all of them.
I want them all, you know. He was like, man,
(41:12):
you know, I don't make that decision. Go talk to Vince.
So I'm walking towards Vin's office and then Laura Nidas
walks out and I'm like, hey, john man, Johnny's the
one that hire me. Man, like, Johnny's my man. So
he like, I like, Johnny, come here, I'm working Vader
to night. He's like, yeah, kid, no, congratulations cool. I said, listen, listen, listen.
(41:33):
They said that they don't know who's going on forward.
You bring them in legends each week. He's like, yeah,
we are. I was like, I want to be the
guy to work some all. He was like, well, come on,
come in here. He walks me into Vince. So I
go right into Vince. So I pitch it to Vince.
You know pretty much, Hey man, let me be the
anti legend blah blah blah. I can be the legend
builder instead of the legend killer like Randy Orton, Like
(41:53):
you'll give them their moment, but let me be the
guy to work some And he looked at me and
he was like, you would want to do that? What
I said, damn right, I would. I said this is
a dream come true for me, like this would be amazing.
And he was like, well, if you want to do it,
we can do it. I said all right. He was like,
let's see how tonight, gugs. I said, all right, man,
let's go for it. Brother. The next thing, you know,
(42:16):
I just saw my list on each week with the
Legends boom boom, boom boom. I'm just like, look, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
It wasn't that easy, man, And I had to fight
to get my name on that.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Hey. I literally it was one of those things like
you know how like when the iron's hot, you just
got to strike, strike, yep, you got to strike. And
when they had no plan, they just thought, oh, we'll
just throw some other guy in there with them. I said, no, no, no, no, no,
like we can exay all that. You're gonna throw me
in there every time you know you had it, you
(42:53):
got to you know, legend, that's what happened right there,
that's the whole legends. Like I showed up, I said,
holy shit, I'm the first one. And then I didn't
want to be just the first one. I wanted to
be the last one too.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
You're looking you were the first because it wouldn't have
men as much if you were like number two. You
know what I'm saying, not at all.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
As soon as I saw it, man, I had to
shoot it, and Vince Man he went for it.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
So damn, that's a good story. Vinny, thank you for that,
uh that question, because I never heard that one. We
have another question for you from Sam Hey Heath, I
got your eye kids, I got kids Tea. Always loved
your three man band theme, one man band theme. I
still can't believe you're gonna be world champion. Then every
three man band member can say they were world champ.
(43:40):
Where do you get that?
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Hey, there's this follow that. No, I tell you got it?
I understand. Oh no, I got twenty percent left, all.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Right, we're gonna wrap it up.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
So so this has been going around for for a while.
So back in the day, whenever WW had a big firing,
it was like in the middle of three on B
and all this stuff, and they say, you know, Drew
and Gender got released and I stayed there for another
until COVID hit, you know, so then I got released.
(44:16):
But during that time, Drew and Gender came back.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
I brought Gender back, and then he jumped me, and
then he got a contract, and then Drew brought me
back after I actually got released, and then me and
him had a little segment which was probably one of
the best moments I had on television with anybody. That
was literally like a tear drunker moment for me and
him the last time because he's a brother of mine,
like he's my brother. But they both came back and
(44:42):
won the world title. You know. So in three on
B I was the front man and the one, you know,
doing all the shit, and now everyone's like, you got
to sustill the prophecy, you know, like you have to
do this, you know, you have to become the world champion,
because they did it.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
So so I got a great on my head would
you go back if if if the timing was right,
and what I yeah, all right, so.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
July fifteenth, I'm gonna want to be forty.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Okay, forty years old, your baby?
Speaker 4 (45:16):
No not so I'm going to be forty July fifteenth.
And I was with ww ever since I was twenty
three years old, you know. So I literally had like
this three year break with them that I've been with Impact.
But I was with WW. I was on the Independence
for maybe two years and then I got signed and
(45:37):
it was just like a whoa crap, Like I made
that type thing, like wow, and literally I stayed there
for fifteen years of my life. And but no, it's
one of those things that where like I look at
my age, and I look at my girls and their
age and how much they probably need me and everything.
And I know with WWE, it's like, man, it's the military.
You signed the contract, You're there on every beck in call,
(46:00):
you know. But it's one of those things that we're like,
no one in this world pays like them. And I know,
if I can get another three year run, I could
probably be set with them, you know what I mean.
So it's like when I'm looking at forty now I could.
I've told myself, I said, I'm not gonna go past
forty seven. Like forty seven has been my little staple
(46:23):
ind to where if I still feel good, maybe, but
it's one of those things that were like forty five
and forty seven has been my number that I've gave
myself when I got signed when I was twenty, you know.
So it's like I've got another five to seven years.
I feel like that I could do this. So if
(46:43):
they ever offered, you know, I mean, it's the biggest
place in the world to before man, and I was
there for my whole career, you know what I mean
pretty much. So it's like, I mean, I still I
have my friends talk to me, man like. I still
text and bullshit with them like all buddies, man like.
It's like it's one of those things to where like, uh,
(47:04):
they're just way busier than I am right now.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
You know, So you can say never say never, and
then I.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
Mean, hell you can't. I mean, look at all the
guys that got fired. You never thought would ever get
signed together and they got signed.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah, it's true. It's true. Well, July fifteenth, its your birthday. Yeah,
gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna send you a text on
July fifteenth. I'm going to I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
Remember that because you're gonna write it down so you
don't forget.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
No, I remember July fifteenth, And if I did forget,
then I could always turn this on and I'll say, oh,
he mentioned his birthday. It's July fifteenth. But you're gonna
get a text for me. And if I don't hear
back from you, then we're done. But I appreciate you
coming on. Where can people find you if they want
to follow you on social media?
Speaker 4 (47:51):
I've only got two social media's and it's Twitter and Instagram,
and it's literally Heath the Roman numerals xx I got
the guns.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Well, you were a pleasure, I told Rhino. I said,
he's quickly becoming one of my favorite people in the
business because you are just so easy to like, you're
you're a good person. I could just tell you're a
good person and and like you're fun to hang out with.
And I hope to see you again at a signing
soon and I'm.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
Pretty sure we will. And it's always a pleasure with
you too.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Thank you so much. Everybody welcome Heath or say goodbody,
Heath Rather, he's got to go, but I'll talk to
you soon. And happy early birthday. But you're gonna hear
from me in a week or so, all right, buddy,
Thanks for coming on. Take care.
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My SuperChargy. Y'all know him, you all love them. I
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
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Going?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I cannot hear you? Oh no technical difficulty, I can
I can hear that that smooth, mellow voice. Fears come
on the Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
The headphones aren't working for some reason.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You don't need them, baby, It's just me and you
one on one. Baby, I see you. How you doing.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I'm good. I literally just got them watching The Little Mermaid,
the original, the new, the new one one.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, what do you think that? Can we discuss because
I'm a big Disney person.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
No, I enjoyed it. You did enjoy it, Yes, I mean,
of course, you know. I mean you gotta change with
towns a little bit and a little bit was different,
of course, you know. But that that's when I happened,
just like in wrestling. But with the respect of the movie.
You know Ariel, the lady that played Ariel, I thought
she killed it and singing. I thought she did great
(01:44):
in acting. I think Melissa McCartney killed it. As Ursula.
Huge fan of Ursula.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I should have wore my Disney shirt. I had a
new clue.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Oay we did you know? Girls bore their aerial shirts.
I wore my Ursula. I'm a heel fan.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Let me tell you something. We go every year to Disney.
We went for sixteen days this year.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh, I tell you if my dream is to live
down there and become the Evil Queen, just.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
To live go in the audition for bail. I feel
like you can get it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You think, Yeah, I just want to be the Evil Queen.
I want to be in the parades.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Hey, that's better.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah. We go every year at the same time, and
like this, I keep adding a day. My husband doesn't
even know. I just add a day when I book it.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
And yeah, it's my wife's the same way. She is
the biggest Disney fanatic in the world, like up and
down ever since she was a kid. Like I mean
we go like probably every other year maybe okay, you know,
for kids and everything, but yeah, like she she she's
the one. They got me all in it, Like I
grew up loving Rocky and you know everything. Sevester Saloon
(03:01):
and Arnold Swartzenegger.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Are you Are you watching the new reality show with
Sylvester slot Not not the Tulsa King. That's the show.
He's got a reality show with his kids and his wife.
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
They've been blowing up Arnold on Netflix, you know, like
all his old movies and everything's coming out. And then
they had a documentary about him, which was pretty good.
But there's a lot like coming out about him.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Now, what do you think of Frank Staloon? Because I
met Frank Staloon. No, not at all. No. I did
a signing in in California. It was like the Hollywood
Super signing or something years ago, years and years ago,
(03:52):
and this guy comes wandering over to my table, and
you know, he's looking down at the pictures and I
love when they say, is that you No, it's so
much else, like right, of course.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And I was younger back then, so I could still
pass for the pictures. I was a little offended at first,
but he said he was Frank Stallone, right, So I'm like,
oh my god, yeah, you know, I know who you are.
And I love I put his brother over. I love
your brother, blah blah blah. And he starts to put
himself over of course, for like ten minutes, and I'm
(04:25):
like sitting there and he's like, don't I look good?
For fifty five I'm like, you look great, and he's
telling me all this stuff and how women are loving
them and blah blah blah. Yeah, just like you're the best. Frank.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Hey, did you give him a free eight ten and
a free picture? No?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But I did take a free selfie with them, because
do you want to take a picture with me? He said,
oh not really, but okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Would ask you where his table was at.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I don't know where he was, probably over here. I'm
sure we need a crowd control for table. But he
took a break to come say hello to me. So
I was thrilled. It was.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
What I saw.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I saw your instagram. You went to the Universal.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Universals and what is it, the one connected.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
United Islands of Adventure.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
There it is you know, you know everything. But yeah,
we went there and we literally did everything that you
can do, like in both parts. And the whole thing
was that when we went, it was a Christmas present
from Santa Claus to go to Harry Potter World. So
my wife is a huge Harry Potter fan. I don't
(05:37):
get me wrong, I enjoy it too.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I don't know it, you know, in depth like she does,
but you know, I know a little bit. But my
girls love it also. So it was one of those
things where like, you know, Santa got us tickets to
go down there, and you know, so we got to
go to Harry Potter World.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Now, how old are your daughters?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
They are ten and nine.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okay, so.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
My oldest is about to turn eleven next month.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Okay, so they're still in the Santa Claus, well, I
want to.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Say, yes, okay, I'm whispering now because they are.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
But as one of those things, we're like, they're at
that point to where like, you know, they look at
me and they're like, Dad, like you're telling me that
this man can go around the whole world and visit
every kid and give him presents every year.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
One night, one night, Santa Claus said, you watch these movies.
Who has like that magic power where he can just
transform there. You know, they're just looking at me like
scratching their head.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Like working them.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You know, I'm trying to keep them young as long
as they can.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You have to as a parent, because my my daughter
is going to be fourteen this month and my son's eleven. Right,
so the since the pandemic, we pulled them from school.
We homeschool, okay, but when they were in regular school,
my daughter was about ten, and I was told around
ten is when they start talking in school and they
(07:07):
make fun of the kids who still believe in Santa. Yeah.
So I told her the truth one night, right before.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
It was.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It didn't end up well. It was the biggest mistake
because it was it was like nine thirty at night
and I'm like I'm with her, I'm laying with her
in bed, and I'm like, you know, Christmas is coming
up soon, and she's like, yeah, face is all lit
up and my heart, my heart's beating, and uh. I
(07:40):
was like, so what do you think of this Santa
Claus guy? And she's just like, uh, you know, I
like him. And I go, yeah, I go do you
do you ever wonder why, like when you go to
a mall or when you go to a store, it's
never the same guy. Do you ever wonder that? And
she's like, yeah, I kind of wondered that. And then
(08:02):
I just told her and we both started oh.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, that's what I'm not like, I'm not looking forward
to any of that because I think about it. Once
Santa's gone, it's the tooth fairy Easter Bunny, It's it's
all gone. It's again, you know. You know, it's like,
oh no, so now it's like all the magic will
(08:27):
be totally gone. So I'm trying all rainbows and sunshine.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Uniforn dust and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
All over here. We're never Land.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, if if if I was still homeschooling like prior,
I would have never told them. But I was so
afraid there's little snot news. Kids were gonna stooge it
off before me.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
They will, they will, I mean that, that's why, Like
they would come to come to me and ask me
about it, and I'm just like, if you believe it's there,
you know, you.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Know I love that. I love seeing picts of your kids.
I love being a parent, I love seeing other parents stuff. Yeah,
I really enjoy I like the wrestling stuff, but but
the home life and the parents and the kids that
warms my heart.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So I love we do wrestling stuff too much. You know.
It's it's what's after that.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
You know, it's talk about that. We do have to
talk about it a little bit though, because yeah, it's
just a little bit. This is a very casual What
are you drinking by I was going to try and
get some moonshine and sip it with you, but come.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
On, favorite, But I'm just saying it was in the
fridge after so I grabbed a couple so I could
have some.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You're a man, Heath, you don't men don't drink white cloth.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
A man can drink whatever they want, just like women.
Let's be honest. You know I don't have to always
drink dark liquor and hard booze. You know, you know
I can have a little little seltzer here and there.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Right, I thought you were gonna have this gigantic Mason.
You are full of this moonshine.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
You just don't need to tell stories about to God.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Please, they already know I posted in it was terrible anyway.
So let's talk about you and wrestling, Big Impact Star.
You know what I love you for that you want
a big star and Impact. It's the truth one please.
(10:33):
I love the fact that you and Rhino were like
b ffs in w W E and then you both
go to this separate organization and you fall right back
into where you were before. Yeah, did you ask for
that or did were they just like, yeah, let's just
keep you guys together because you have a click chemistry.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I kind of feel like it just was one of
those like natural things that they organic things that happened
now the whole store with me and Rhino's nuts, just
because the whole I was doing a free agent thing
because I didn't get drafted in WWE.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I remember that, Yes I did.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
So lights went out on me. I'm the last man
in the room, and I'll just break out the room
raising hell fast forward. I'm supposed to be going for
the inter Continental title. So they were going to do
this little thing called like like a He'll Billy versus
Hollywood with me and the Miz for the Icy title. Okay,
(11:33):
and then that that was what was set in place,
and then Rhino got brought up. They were shifting gears
so much up there to where it was like they
were changing brands and splitting stuff up, and they were
going to have a SmackDown brand, a raw brand, new
titles and everything. And then somehow in some meeting instead
(11:54):
of me and Miz going this way for the icy title.
I got shifted this way to go for the tag
title with right, no, okay, and I'm just sitting there like, well,
in my mind at the time, I was just like.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
What the hell.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
You know, I've already had the tag title three damn times.
You know, I don't need it anymore, you know, I
want to go with the IC title. I mean, let
me elevate, you know, move me up. You know, like
this makes the second time I was supposed to go
that way and I'm not going that way, Like what
the hell. But in the long run of things, I
(12:27):
actually enjoyed myself with Rhino. He is one hundred percent
one of my best friends now. He's amazing and like
he taught me a lot about the business also, like
stuff that I didn't realize and like really looked at,
you know, throughout the years. But it was one of
those things like I traded an ICEE title run for
(12:47):
a best friend in life, so kind of worked out
for me.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I love, Yeah, I love that story. I've worked you
know in ECW. I worked with Rhino all the time.
I don't know how many times he goured me, but
he always apologized afterwards and checked on me, which was
very sweet. He's a great guy. I'm hoping one of
these days that you and I are booked on the
same night. Yeah, the insane. What's it called insane?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
He said he closed out the bar one night.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I was like, oh, everyone does.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
It's great. Yeah, it was a good time they you know,
when I came out, I managed Rhino. They didn't they
put some sin. They put some seventy pound ref through
a table and beat the hell out of them and stuff.
Music was playing and all I did was dance. I
feel like I'm in the go go bar, so I
was just on the outside dance. Oh yeah, the music
(13:45):
was glad. They were put up. Just a good time.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I love shows us a nice type knit like a show. Also,
it's literally it starts on the right time.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
It is.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I mean maybe two hours and fifteen minutes tops. It's
a perfect show.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You know you're nine huh we were done by nine.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah, that's the beauty about it. Like, I mean it's like,
hey man, we're run this many and you got timelinits
so you better hear that before I goore you you know.
So he runs a good ship there, like it's always
a fun spot to work at.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, well hopefully one of these days will be will
be there.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
If I say, maybe me and him cand tag and
you can manage us and.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Then I can dance while you're just you know, doing
your dance. I would love. Yeah, he didn't want to
dance with me for some reason. He was a sticking
of what about dancing?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Let me think about it. He's the man beast, he
has to be the tough guy. I'm known for shaking
my heads. I love it.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I see I see your videos. I know what you're about.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I love kids.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, that was one of my favorite gimmicks ever. No,
and I'm not just blowing smooth because I would watch
you and when it like it would always pop me
because I'm like, you know, what do you have a
job for?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
You got kids?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You got to pay the bills.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Up there. They don't really want to, you know, broadcast
that either, because like every man has to be a
sex symbol, just like the women. You know, we gotta
be single, we gotta have them wanting us and all
that stuff. And then literally I had a brain fart
in the promo with you know, Polly and brock Lesnar
and the whole Oh you know, what's my next line?
(15:31):
What's my next line? And then of course you know,
Polly's the man the mic, like he do anything, so
he's like cutting it and I'm just like it'll come
back to me, and it never came back to me,
and I'm like, oh shit, So you know that's when
the whole you know, I got kids, I need this job.
Everyone here knows that you'll whoop my ass, but I
gotta do this.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
You just make that up on the fly.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I just had to shoot from the hip and then
what's the stuff that sticks? Man?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
It is?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
And then Paul he said the next line like and
then just kept going with it and he got me
back on track where I.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Was like, oh shoot, yeah, I love that. Yeah, that
was one of my That was one of my favorite
things that you've done, is the eye got Kid thing.
And I'm sure that T shirt told a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Oh it was probably the best one I had besides
like this one back here, that next this one, but yeah,
it was. It was. It was that home run hitter
for me for a little bit. And I mean it's
just one of those gimmicks that like me, I'm a storyteller,
Like yes, I can do these moves and stuff. Do
I want to know because my body hurts like hell anymore.
(16:39):
But uh, it's just one of those things that where
like I'm a storyteller, I'm an entertainer, you know, like
if I can seek my teeth in a good story, man,
I'll get it across as much as I can. And
I feel like with this I got kids. Gimmick was
just like a hell of like every dad, every mom.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Like, and this is why I do this.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
You know. I have to go to the grocery store
and back groceries for my kids. I have to work
at the bank. I have to go and dig these ditches.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I have to do this.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It's like a damn family man. So me trying to
fight for a contract. I have to fight guys like
brock Lester, Randy Orton, John Cena, you know, trying to
prove myself, you know them, and I have to do this.
And it just was one of those things where I
feel like people could relate to.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
You know. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're you are
the You're like the the everyday man that's on TV.
You're the working man's man. Yeah, and I like that
you you. You know, you're a superstar, but we can
relate to you because we're all appearance and we're all
(17:44):
in the same situation. But of course you have a
cooler job than I do because I'm sitting home when
you're on television, you know. But I love that gimmick.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I thought that was all the time. Also, like they're
always like man, you know, like your success or this
or that, And I literally just was like, man, like
I believe that anyone can honestly do whatever they really
set their mind to and love Like, if.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
You want to be an astronaut, damn it, go out
there and be trying to be the best damn astronaut
you can. You know, if you want to be a scientist,
like dedicate yourself and put the time towards it and
do it.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Like I came from a town in the like littlest
town in West Virginia, Like seven hundred people was in
my town, you know what I mean, And I had
a dream to be a professional wrestler and did it.
Like it's one of those things where like I know
for a fact, everyone's looking at me, like, man, this
damn kid look at him, thinking that he's gonna be
a superstar of their wrestling, you know, and look right,
(18:40):
you know, it's one of those things where I know
there was doubt the It's like my friends that actually
have had my back, and there was only like four
of them, and I still talk to them today like
that's how close we are. I'll rest of them would
say that, but then behind my back on man whatever,
you know, he ain't gonna do it, and like they
would tell me, so I know these things, like i'llviously
(19:00):
they don't know that I know, but it was one
of those things. But it's like through through that pieces
of wood on my fire to get me going more,
you know. But I just I'm a believer. And if
you if you dedicate yourself to something and you put it,
put it first and go for it, like my goodness, man,
like you can't fail. You can't fail.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
You know, you miss every shot you don't take.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, that's yeah, it's a fact. Yeah. And now like
now I got like a good fifty fifty split with impact,
you know, to where like I get to wrestle, but
I get to be dad too because like with WWE,
man it was I was gone five days a week, brutal.
Then I would get home on a Wednesday and on
a Zombie and then on Thursday I'm super Dad. Then
(19:49):
Friday morning I'm flying.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Back out right. Yeah, the impact is a later schedule,
which is great, but you still get that TV time
that you need and I love it. I think it's great.
Do you have a question for you right here, Angela
high Sweetheart, fight dollars, super Chat. She says, Heath, what
has been the most painful bump you have ever taken?
And has a spot ever going terribly wrong for you
(20:11):
during a match? Angela, You're going into Charles chip Yard. Honey,
thank you so much. Hei. Do you want to answer that?
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yes, all right, all right. One of the most painful
bumps I ever taken was back when I was in
Green Little Nexus member fighting on the road. You know,
we were the young boys coming up and Big Show
and Cain had a brother choke slam and a green
boy choke slam, did they oh, buddy? And trust me,
(20:40):
I have felt the difference between both of them all
during next US and Core days. We were young. We
were just hey, man, we're here to do a thing.
We're having fun, blah blah blah. You know, we just
were living our life. And whenever we went up for
the big guys and me and Gabriel, justin Gabriel, we
(21:02):
would jump with with PJ. Black now and we would
jump with them to to to where it's like their
arms are extended and we're like nine feet in the air,
you know, and we would take those bumps, but they
would drive us in the mats to where we're just like,
holy crap, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Try to interrupt you and ask you a question. Have
follows with this because I've talked about this before, Like
I I don't know what it is. Maybe because I'm female,
I don't understand. When we would have people come in
for tryouts, right, I'm not going to name who, but
some of the guys were rougher on these kids than others,
(21:42):
and to the point where they would make the kids
cry and want to quit. Now you're laughing. I felt
bad every single time I would watch it.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Good heart well to me, it's like when.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I was brought in, Yeah, well well I was. You know,
I've been this is thirty years. I'm associated, I'm old.
You know, I've been around the block. I know what's
going on. So this is the nineties, and I know
they did things maybe different than they do now. I
don't know, But I was always taught you protect the
person that you're working with. Of course, never stiff them
unless it becomes a shoot, and then you got to
(22:20):
protect yourself, you know. But for ninety nine point nine
percent of the time that I worked, I've never heard
anybody and no one's ever really hurt me, for sure.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
And I can honestly say the same thing about my
career too. But like I feel like in that pecking order,
you're coming up, you're getting a little This is just
the men mentality, like how men come here. I feel
like it's just one of those pecking orders to where
(22:50):
once you earn the respect and they see you there
and they see you try and they know they're driving
you in the mat, but they're put. They never landed
me too high on my neck. They never landed me
on my head. They landed me flat, but it was
a stiff flat, you know, but it was flat. Like
I could never say that they ever ever hurt me
(23:11):
or anything. I mean, of course the bump hurt. I mean,
you're eight foot in the air, you know. But no,
I feel like it's just like a little pecking order,
like a can this can take it? Does he want
to take it? Does he really want to be here?
That's my mentality about it. And of course you don't bitch,
you don't complain, and the next thing you know, you
show up the next day, you get it again. You
(23:33):
show up the next day, you get it again, and
then next thing you know, six months later you pick
it up and you just don't feel nothing. Yeah, like,
what the hell was that?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Like this the same guy?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Hold on, how talk to me? What happened there?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
And you totally felt the difference. Instead of a woosh,
you felt you fell out and then like a smooth
like they went down with you. And I'm just literally
I remember I was in the UK at the O
two arena and Big Show gave me the Brother choke
(24:12):
Slam the where I literally I don't even think I
sold it. I think I just looked at him like, broa,
what happened? How did I not feel nothing? I don't
even think I saw it.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
The worst is when you're selling and you're like your
eyes are closed for a second and they try to
stomp you, but you don't feel it, so you don't
sell it and you're like, oh my god, what just
happened yet. Oh my god, that's hilarious. We have another
(24:45):
question for your sweetheart, John John five is here high
five dollars super Chat Insane Wrestling Revolutionist Rhino show in Monroe, Michigan.
And that's where I met you, John, Yes, that one time,
John John, those two Rhino shows, so you probably.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Oh yeah, I'm sure he met I saw John there. Yeah, yeah, right,
there's the name of the show I w R.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I told you, Yeah, Insane Wrestling Revolution Thank you John
for that, Uh that gem of information.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I don't remember nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
We don't know anything, you know what I do know talking.
Let's go back. You said you were on a quest
for the IC title, but recently you beat Mac Cardona.
Oh yeah, how did that happen or did you know
hardcore that night?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
I went hardcore that I saw pictures.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I would love to see the match. Yeah, I'm looking
for the tea.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
It was one of those things to where like we
were in Beckley, West Virginia, where pretty much is my hometown,
Like my actual hometown is Powerable and it's only like
thirty minutes away, so it's just like it was a
packed house. Like yeah, and as w Gary Damren's show
up there, like he literally he knows what he's doing.
(25:57):
He packs the houses, he promotes very well. I mean
he has catering in the back for the boys. Like
he's that promoter where you're like, hell, yeah, man, like
thank you for doing this for us. So yeah, me
and Cardona. Cardona wasn't a Chace for about a year
and we had a cage match and oh so what
(26:21):
makes this story the best is that, of course I won,
but congratuation. The best thing about it is that so
we had this guitar and everything, you know for the match,
a spot in the match, you know. So my buddy
was like messing with them, making sure it was good
and all that stuff. And the whole time, my kids
(26:45):
and my wife was in Tennessee doing play camp and
they go there for like six days and they learn
to play. Like last year it was Peter Pan, this
year it was Beauty and the Beast. So they're there
doing play camp this and that, and I was just like,
you know what, it's gonna stuck, y'all going to miss
this show because it's gonna be a pretty good one.
But it's all good. This and that next thing, you know,
(27:08):
my buddy Matt's texting me he's the guy that sings
my song. Actually, the music that I come out to.
He's the he's the musician that plays it.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Huh an impact.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, the song that I came out to. So my
buddy's up there and he's playing me to the ring,
you know. So that's like it's like a Rastlemania live
band moment.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Oh, that's so fun.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
It was really cool. So he's calling me on my phone.
He's like, dude, come down here and check this guitar
out and tell me you think it's good. So I
go down there to check it out and he's like,
it's right over there, and he like points over to
the side. So I turn around. There's my wife and
my two girls, and I'm just like, whoa what you know?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And they're just like, yeah, we made.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Up blah blah blah this and that. So it was
like a good moment there. So I remember I looked
at Cardon and I said, bro, you better be ready, man,
my kids are hearing it out.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, order he pissed off.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Your daughter slipped it right off. But what was what
was awesome was the fact that she literally didn't back down.
And just gave it like right back to it and
you know to where I popped so huge, Yes, little girl,
don't you back for you? It was such an awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Oh that's great. Yeah, I'm hoping there's a VHS tape
swirling around that I could get my watch this, I
I think so.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I saw the pictures and I was like, damn. I
get the occasional text message from Gary or from Steve, right,
we gotta get you down here, we gotta get you,
and I'm like, I'm here. The one time I was
booked was I think it was last year for the
big bashing Beckley. But I even did a promo like
(28:56):
the Lady came on and I had to do a
promo on you know, on film for it and everything
for the news or whatever. And then I wake up
at six o'clock to go to the airport and they're like,
your flight's canceled and I couldn't get a flight because
you guys live in the stick.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
You how about Charleston? Right.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I tried everything that day and then the cheapest ticket
was like over a grand.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yeah, the best thing if that ever happens again, I
know that Rowanokee Virginia is a bigger airport and it's
probably about a good hour and forty minutes away. Yeah
well if you, if so, if Gary would be like,
all right, I got someone to drive you. Boom boom
boom bam, you can get a flight anywhere. Pretty much
(29:42):
from that it.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Was I was crying. Oh, I was so upset. I
bought a dress, I bought shoes. Oh yeah, I bought
so much stuff for this because I thought it was
going to be like a big like a big show,
like yeah, you know, and that's so I said, Oh,
I'm gonna buy all new gear and it's going to
be good. I can't wait and bubble. I was working
with Brian and Shane, and then those bastards send me
(30:05):
a picture with some ninety year old lady and they're like, oh,
here's the queen. She showed up. They were it was me,
but it was so old broad and I was just
like that embarrassing, put it all over socials. This is Fritzy.
She was literally like a ninety year old grandma. She
was just button. They were pretending it was me. Yeah,
of course they were. But I was so upset because
(30:26):
I wanted to come so badly, and I never got
to work there, So maybe someday I'll be there as well.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I don't fash Number four is going to be in June,
also next year.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I know the promoter, you know, put a word in
before I turned sixty. I mean, you know it's coming
ten years nine. Yeah, I got a little bit breathing room,
but I would like to do it before I get
too old that I can't even move anymore. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I'm sixty, They'll be walking down there doing.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Your Hell No, I hope I'm not in this business
at age sixty with the free this is gonna be
too much for me.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Kim.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I'm sorry, Kim want do you want to finish your thought?
And then we have a question for you.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Oh, I don't remember what my thought was.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
We were talking about being being old in sixty and
being at ringside that's going to be terrible.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Terrible, and we mentioned that we weren't talking about it anyway.
Let's go on to that next question.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Oh it's our girl, Kim uh to seventy nine Canadian
super Chat. I have no idea what that equals, but
how are you liking impact so far?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Heath honestly, I love it, like Impact all right, in
a brief, like little summary of Impact for me. I
got released from WWE three months later, went to Impact
in the COVID days where there's no people, and it
was weird and sucked ass. Excuse me, I didn't mean
(31:58):
to say that weird, Yeah, but it was horrible. We
hated it. It was like wrestling practice matches all the time.
We knew the camera everyone was seeing it. But it's
always good to feel the energy, you know what I mean.
They have to. But I got hurt like six months
after COVID hit and I was out, and I already
signed a deal with Impact for two years. But they
(32:21):
honored my contract, didn't shoot me to the side. They
you know, extended my contract that paid me while I
was hurt to where it was just like I got
to tip my hat to Scott the Moore and all
of them, like yeah, they're they're stand up people. They're
good people, they really are. And so like once that
happened and I came back and I started getting in
(32:41):
the mix, and I started meeting the locker room and
getting to know everybody and everything. Man like if they
wanted to sign me for two more years, I would
like no bs. Like it's a good atmosphere. There's a
great locker room. People works together. They don't try to
stab you in the back. They're just, uh, they're good people.
Like it's a good, very good locker room. And even
(33:04):
like the management, you know, it's it's lean is very
leanuit Like is that the word lean?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You lean?
Speaker 4 (33:11):
You there you go my tongue. It's it's one of those.
And like like I get to I get to go
and wrestle. You get my fix in wrestling, because you know,
that's what I do it for. But I get to
have my time at home too, you know where like
I get to be daddy. I get to watch movies
and play, you know outside of my girls, and you
(33:33):
know we go to David Busters and everything. We have.
We have a blast, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I love that. Yeah. And you know what I I worked.
I worked for Impact the first the first year that
they opened. I was on the first show when it
was TNA you had to pay the ten dollars to watch.
That's when I worked there. But the night that we
drank the moonshine. Uh, you know, Brian had a little
(34:00):
party in his room. Oh yeah, and inlighted Shane and
I and my girlfriend Betty was with us, and I
was a little apprehensive because I was just like, oh,
they're so much younger. I don't think they will want
to hang out with with me. I'm so old and
blah blah blah. Because I didn't know this. I didn't
really know anybody. But Brillian, let me tell you something.
Those girls were the nicest.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Group of girls.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
And we drank and hung out and told stories and
I was like, I love impact. I love these girls.
I want to work here someday. But even the guys,
the guys, and they were everybody was so respectful and
my hand and sweet. Yeah, and reminded me of like
E c W with the family atmosphere that we had.
(34:45):
I felt it in that room that night, and everybody
was good. They were genuinely seemed like they were good people.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
I feel the same exact way, like what you just said.
I felt the same way whenever I started getting to.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Know them all.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yeah, because I I'm always that god that keeps my
guard up. But I don't know why. Like I read
the room, I like before I talk to anyone, you know,
it's like that, It's like that that thing that way,
like you just don't know, you know, you don't know
no one's intentions. You don't really know, like I've been
burned before to where like I'm just like all right,
I ain't gonna follow that ship again, you know. So
(35:20):
it's just from where like I keep my guard up,
you know, just like boxing, you keep it up, keep moving.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Duck weed.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
It's where you came from, though, I mean, think about it,
w W. I always compare it like when I went
from ECW to w W, it was like apples and oranges.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It was.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
It was like the most laid back, uh safe locker
room where I trusted every single person. To now go
into this locker room where I don't know these people
that well and everybody wants to stab me in the
back because nobody wants me here, and it and it
puts you on edge, and I didn't enjoy my time.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Oh yeah, you know that was whenever I first got
up in WWE. I mean Triple h you know, Undertaker,
all those boys were still on top, you know, they
they were running the game. It was wild wild West rules,
and it was you're walking on eggshells. You're trying your
best not to, you know, you know, ruffle any feathers.
(36:20):
You're trying to make sure you hit your spots. You know,
you don't want to mess up in the ring like
it's it's it's it's it's intimidating.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
It's intention you can't enjoy yourself, and you like you're
enjoying yourself, not that you were. Like your work ethics
speaks for itself. You're a great worker, and I can
see that in WWE. But when I look at you
in Impact, your face exubes happiness. See it's a different
vibe and I like that. It's more laid back and
(36:50):
I like that. And you could just tell that you're
having a really good time and that and that shows
I do see it. I do see it. We have
a question for you for ninety nine you were chat
from Vinnie h. Heath. Was your cool w w E
Legends program, your idea of the company. Did you have
a request which legend you wanted to work with?
Speaker 4 (37:12):
It was awesome, the it was awesome, It was amazing.
I loved it. But no, it was literally this leading
up to Raw one thousand. Next thing, you know, I
had to wrestle Vader and they picked me to be
the very first guy to work Vader on the night
(37:34):
that they were starting to bring the legends in. So
they're already pre planned bringing the legends in, but they
never pre planned who was going to work them all.
So okay, So it was one of those things where
once I got in there, I thought it was a joke.
You know, like you know, you show up to tr
you walk in there, Mark karn I was like, oh,
you're here, Okay, check you out. Sign this for this license,
(37:57):
sign that for that license, blah blah blah. So behind Mark,
you know, they always had to run sheet. So you're
looking at it and everything, and like you know, down
the cart, I'm looking as like Heaths Slater versus Vader,
and I'm just like what the hell, Like, hold on,
this is real. But like like you're talking about big
fan Vader, like the real dude, or like Swaggle there
(38:19):
were Swaggle gonna come out dresses Vader and what my ass?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Oh that would have been fun.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Hey, I'm telling you, I had to lose the Swaggle
in the COWSU. So like they come on now, you know,
and then and this is what cracks me up that
all these damn people out here, like, you know, I
hate to use the word marks, but they they talk
to you like this is real shits like oh, you
lost to this guy and this before, and you got
(38:45):
beat by a woman and you haven't won any matches.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
But I get a script that I have to follow it,
you know, asshole, they shut up, you know, like it's
one of those things like I'm just like brother, you
think like I can't beat up Swaggle on the cowcu
you can barely walk in it.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Elsey.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Well, you know what's worse. The dirt sheets now are
reporting news that's like supposed to be facts, but it's
angles that are being read on.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Teeth that people are going to believe it.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I know, but that's what I'm saying, like, is there's
no real news to report. You gotta put an angle
up as like you know, gospel, like it's real truth,
like me and you were arguing today and it's a
storyline obviously, but they're putting it and then people are like,
oh my god, I just saw them on Twitter. They
must have to repeat. I'm like, you know, people stop
(39:39):
reading this stuff.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
It's going it really is. It blows my mind at
what people believe and I mean, like, don't get me wrong,
like I know the whole ruin all this stuff, but
people come home. It's been dead for since nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Well yeah, and that's why your picture smiling next to
mac Hardona. There's a little bit of heat there exactly.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
You know what I'm so, that's one of those things.
It's like you don't have to.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Keep kicking a dad horse when it's down people, you know,
like we all we all want.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
To It's it's a show man. Yes, it's physical and
it hurts, but it's a show man, you know. Anyway,
Vader here, I am. I worked on this sheet. I'm like,
oh my goodness, I'm working Vader. Krono is this Vader?
Is this gonna be spuggled dressed up as Vader? Nah? Brother, Pal?
He always says, pal, Oh no, Pal, it's really Vader.
(40:29):
And I'm just like, oh crap. You know. So I
go to Rotundo. Mike Rotundo, I saw, was my agent.
So I'm like Mike hey Man, like like like, is
this happened like Vader Vader. He's like yeah, he was,
Like I think he was. Like at six o'clock we're
having a meeting with him to go over everything. I'm like, great,
I said, so is this, like, is there legends coming in?
(40:52):
Like what's happening? And he was like, well, they were
mentioning they're bringing legends in each week to leading up
to Raw one thousand, and I was like, am I
wrestling all of them? And he just was like he
was just like no, man, I think we're just gonna
switch in and out. I was like, no, no, no, no,
I want to be the guy who works all of them.
I want them all, you know. He was like, man,
(41:12):
you know, I don't make that decision. Go talk to Vince.
So I'm walking towards Vin's office and then Laura Nidas
walks out and I'm like, hey, john man, Johnny's the
one that hire me. Man, like, Johnny's my man. So
he like, I like, Johnny, come here, I'm working Vader
to night. He's like, yeah, kid, no, congratulations cool. I said, listen, listen, listen.
(41:33):
They said that they don't know who's going on forward.
You bring them in legends each week. He's like, yeah,
we are. I was like, I want to be the
guy to work some all. He was like, well, come on,
come in here. He walks me into Vince. So I
go right into Vince. So I pitch it to Vince.
You know pretty much, Hey man, let me be the
anti legend blah blah blah. I can be the legend
builder instead of the legend killer like Randy Orton, Like
(41:53):
you'll give them their moment, but let me be the
guy to work some And he looked at me and
he was like, you would want to do that? What
I said, damn right, I would. I said this is
a dream come true for me, like this would be amazing.
And he was like, well, if you want to do it,
we can do it. I said all right. He was like,
let's see how tonight, gugs. I said, all right, man,
let's go for it. Brother. The next thing, you know,
(42:16):
I just saw my list on each week with the
Legends boom boom, boom boom. I'm just like, look, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
It wasn't that easy, man, And I had to fight
to get my name on that.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Hey. I literally it was one of those things like
you know how like when the iron's hot, you just
got to strike, strike, yep, you got to strike. And
when they had no plan, they just thought, oh, we'll
just throw some other guy in there with them. I said, no, no, no, no, no,
like we can exay all that. You're gonna throw me
in there every time you know you had it, you
(42:53):
got to you know, legend, that's what happened right there,
that's the whole legends. Like I showed up, I said,
holy shit, I'm the first one. And then I didn't
want to be just the first one. I wanted to
be the last one too.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
You're looking you were the first because it wouldn't have
men as much if you were like number two. You
know what I'm saying, not at all.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
As soon as I saw it, man, I had to
shoot it, and Vince Man he went for it.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
So damn, that's a good story. Vinny, thank you for that,
uh that question, because I never heard that one. We
have another question for you from Sam Hey Heath, I
got your eye kids, I got kids Tea. Always loved
your three man band theme, one man band theme. I
still can't believe you're gonna be world champion. Then every
three man band member can say they were world champ.
(43:40):
Where do you get that?
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Hey, there's this follow that. No, I tell you got it?
I understand. Oh no, I got twenty percent left, all.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Right, we're gonna wrap it up.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
So so this has been going around for for a while.
So back in the day, whenever WW had a big firing,
it was like in the middle of three on B
and all this stuff, and they say, you know, Drew
and Gender got released and I stayed there for another
until COVID hit, you know, so then I got released.
(44:16):
But during that time, Drew and Gender came back.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
I brought Gender back, and then he jumped me, and
then he got a contract, and then Drew brought me
back after I actually got released, and then me and
him had a little segment which was probably one of
the best moments I had on television with anybody. That
was literally like a tear drunker moment for me and
him the last time because he's a brother of mine,
like he's my brother. But they both came back and
(44:42):
won the world title. You know. So in three on
B I was the front man and the one, you know,
doing all the shit, and now everyone's like, you got
to sustill the prophecy, you know, like you have to
do this, you know, you have to become the world champion,
because they did it.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
So so I got a great on my head would
you go back if if if the timing was right,
and what I yeah, all right, so.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
July fifteenth, I'm gonna want to be forty.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Okay, forty years old, your baby?
Speaker 4 (45:16):
No not so I'm going to be forty July fifteenth.
And I was with ww ever since I was twenty
three years old, you know. So I literally had like
this three year break with them that I've been with Impact.
But I was with WW. I was on the Independence
for maybe two years and then I got signed and
(45:37):
it was just like a whoa crap, Like I made
that type thing, like wow, and literally I stayed there
for fifteen years of my life. And but no, it's
one of those things that where like I look at
my age, and I look at my girls and their
age and how much they probably need me and everything.
And I know with WWE, it's like, man, it's the military.
You signed the contract, You're there on every beck in call,
(46:00):
you know. But it's one of those things that we're like,
no one in this world pays like them. And I know,
if I can get another three year run, I could
probably be set with them, you know what I mean.
So it's like when I'm looking at forty now I could.
I've told myself, I said, I'm not gonna go past
forty seven. Like forty seven has been my little staple
(46:23):
ind to where if I still feel good, maybe, but
it's one of those things that were like forty five
and forty seven has been my number that I've gave
myself when I got signed when I was twenty, you know.
So it's like I've got another five to seven years.
I feel like that I could do this. So if
(46:43):
they ever offered, you know, I mean, it's the biggest
place in the world to before man, and I was
there for my whole career, you know what I mean
pretty much. So it's like, I mean, I still I
have my friends talk to me, man like. I still
text and bullshit with them like all buddies, man like.
It's like it's one of those things to where like, uh,
(47:04):
they're just way busier than I am right now.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
You know, So you can say never say never, and
then I.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
Mean, hell you can't. I mean, look at all the
guys that got fired. You never thought would ever get
signed together and they got signed.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah, it's true. It's true. Well, July fifteenth, its your birthday. Yeah,
gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna send you a text on
July fifteenth. I'm going to I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
Remember that because you're gonna write it down so you
don't forget.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
No, I remember July fifteenth, And if I did forget,
then I could always turn this on and I'll say, oh,
he mentioned his birthday. It's July fifteenth. But you're gonna
get a text for me. And if I don't hear
back from you, then we're done. But I appreciate you
coming on. Where can people find you if they want
to follow you on social media?
Speaker 4 (47:51):
I've only got two social media's and it's Twitter and Instagram,
and it's literally Heath the Roman numerals xx I got
the guns.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Well, you were a pleasure, I told Rhino. I said,
he's quickly becoming one of my favorite people in the
business because you are just so easy to like, you're
you're a good person. I could just tell you're a
good person and and like you're fun to hang out with.
And I hope to see you again at a signing
soon and I'm.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
Pretty sure we will. And it's always a pleasure with
you too.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Thank you so much. Everybody welcome Heath or say goodbody,
Heath Rather, he's got to go, but I'll talk to
you soon. And happy early birthday. But you're gonna hear
from me in a week or so, all right, buddy,
Thanks for coming on. Take care.
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