March 4, 2025 • 35 mins
On this episode of Eyes Up Here, ECW's Queen of Extreme Francine and co-host Chad discuss the shocking heel turn of John Cena at WWE's Elimination Chamber and how it sets the stage for an explosive showdown with WWE Champion Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania. With The Rock potentially playing a key role, they break down the drama, the stakes, and what Cena's heel turn means for the future of WWE. Don’t miss this fiery discussion!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hey everyone, it is between the extreme Frans meun and
you are listening to Eyes up here with Frans on
the iHeart Radio Network or wherever.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
A podcast as always time in viewing grayma Coochus, Chad,
what is up? How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
What's chasing from practicing?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
For?
Speaker 5 (00:51):
What?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
What is that? Sorry?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Am I John Cena fan?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You're scowling at me? Let me tell you. Are we
getting right into this? Are we not even gonna talk?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
That picture is? Everywhere? It is the meme of all means.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Everybody is just putting that picture as the wallpaper.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's it's all over the place.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And let me say something. If you didn't see that coming,
something's wrong with you. That's all I'm gonna say. That's
the way I feel. This is his last year. They
had to do something, so I wasn't really surprised by it.
I'm just gonna put it out there.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
So are you trying to say it's not your same?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I mean? Is it? Because I'm a grizzled old vet
and I know my wrestling. I don't know. I don't know.
I thought it was done well, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And maybe the average fan didn't see it coming, but
I was just like, something's going down, Something's gonna happen.
And listen, this is a long time in the making too.
They've been talking a scena heel turned for years and
years and years and it's never happened, right, and finally
it happens. So I wasn't surprised by it. I know
(02:22):
a lot of people were.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I saw a really funny clip as they were walking
back to the locker room.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
It was a rock and Sena and Travis Scott and
there was one fan.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Who just kept going wha, see why over and over again,
and he would not crack a smile. But like, if
that was me, I probably would have broke character at
the cover of my face and laugh. Yeah, that's the picture.
Look at that face. It's like, oh that is That's
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like every teenager's face when they have to like go
to school or do something or be nice to their
brother or sister or whatever. I mean, that face is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
And and look, I know you've said a million times
Cody needs to turn heel, but this just solidified him
as the greatest babyface of all time.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yeah, this is gonna make him an ultimate babyface.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Right, Oh my god, huge, huge, And when he took
the watch and he hit him with the watch, his
dad's watch. Oh, I loved it.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I love heel seen it help hold on?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
How many times over the years, right, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I met John Cena when I worked for the Fake
Easy Dub in two thousand and six and he wasn't
even like totally blown up yet. So he's been there
for like decades. Right, how many times has he gone
to the ring and he was either.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Uber over or it was like eh.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You know, kind of like we hate John now, like
either love him or you hate them. There's really no
in between. And now it's just everybody collective booze. This
is what I've been waiting for with this man. I
love heal Sina, I love him now. I don't like
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the Rock being involved.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
What I don't I don't like it when I know
they're corporate and they just push himself into the main storyline.
I don't like that.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
See, No, I disagreed. I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I don't like Oh, I think it's uh. I think
it's you.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Know what with people are going to criticize it. They're
going to criticize the fact that you know, Rock and
Seena have this long history, and also at WrestleMania last year,
you know, they had that interaction during the match where
Sena came out to help Cody and Rock came out
to then beat up Sena. Like they'll maybe mention that,
but no, I love it. I think it's great because
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that means it's like going back to the old you know,
we don't talk about the guy anymore, but Vince. You know,
when Vince would turn you and you went corporate, you
went with the boss, And this makes sense that you know,
there's obviously gonna be a Sena needs one last hurrah,
and the guy who's gonna make it happen is The Rock.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You know, I think that I think this works. I
like this a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, I knew you would. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I just it's like when Triple H used to come
out and we knew he was like in charge of everything,
and he'd come out and he would do something and
then go over and it's just.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Like do you really need it? You know, I'm not
saying that the Rock doesn't do his job well because
I hate him. I hate him.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I hate the character. And that's what you want right,
you want to hate the Rock because he's a heel.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
He's playing it to perfection. I don't know if I
want him in this angle. I didn't want him in
the angle last year if you remember us talking the
Rock here. I just want him to be behind the scenes.
I don't know, that's just me. I just don't want
to see him on my TV.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, it's great. Now back to your SNA point.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
It became almost chic to boo him at a time
because when he was the champ, he was super over
and they were building him. It almost became just the
thing to boo him, you know what I mean, like music,
you boot him. But then by the end of the match,
everybody was cheering him.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
So I remember going to those.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Shows and being fifty to fifty when he came out,
and at the end of the night, you know, he
hit the attitude adjustment one, two three, the parties over,
everybody was cheering on.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
The way out.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
It just got to a point where they called it
Supersena where he was just untouchable.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
But it got the point with everybody.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
It got to that point with the Hulkster, it got
to that point, you know, with.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Austin it gets to that point when you're that level
of a guy, you just know they're not gonna lose.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
They're gonna get to that point with Cody at some stage.
I gotta say, this is the way to go. I'm
so pumped for WrestleMania now knowing that it's gonna be
a heel Seena against Cody rather than you know, Babyface
versus grizzled Babyface. You know, shaking handnds and mutual respect
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and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
And ah man, this is just great.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
And heel Rock, you know in the jumpsuit, come on, like,
that's so great.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Jumps It's so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
How does the Rock incorporate himself into WrestleMania.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I think they saw how awesome a response they got
for that ridiculous run in thing last year, and they're
gonna overkill the hell of it again and bring it
up another tier. I think the guys that you didn't
see last year are gonna come back.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Are They're going to show up this year that weren't
there last year.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
But do you do you think the Rock interferes? Do
you think he doesn't? Do you think he's doing a
run in and interfering and getting himself over during Russell.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Now people are saying that if you go back to
Bad Blood, excuse me, the Rock did like a this
he did he held up three fingers.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Like the triple threat. Wow.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah, yes, yeah, you don't remember that he did like
he held it up like this and he was saying
it was a three finger. Now, some people were thinking
that John Cena was also doing the three finger at
one point. He was, but when he did when Rock
did this, he held up two fingers.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Some people say, well, is there a third person to
this group? So is this story over? We don't know
if it's done.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Interesting, I don't know again, I'm not I think the
Rock is uber talented, charisma coming out of every poor.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Orifice of his body, like he's got it. I just
knowing that he's in charge in the back. I just
wish that he would have stayed in the back, Like,
I don't know if we got it.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I don't know if we need him for this.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
It adds a different layer to the angle, for sure,
there's a you know, a different element with him being.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Involved in it.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
But do we really need him in this? Don't you
think John Cena could have turned heel on his own.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Possible.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
No, I don't know. I think kind of it takes
a little bit, just a little bit away from Sina
with Rock being there.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Okay, I got a counterpoint to that. In the match,
CM Punk had to get curb stomped right to get
knocked out. When he got curb stomped, Sena jumped like
enthusiastically on the knocked out CM Punk in a very
like ooh opportunistic way. So it was a little bit
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of a hint that something was up with Sena. I
think that this version of Sena needs somebody like the Rock,
necessarily John Sena. The John Cena we knew prior to
this return didn't, but this John Cena might need the Rock.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Who do you think is the bigger star?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Yeah, anybody, as much as I think Sena is unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
If you if you took the stage in the nineties,
you are the bigger star.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Yeah. You you performed in front of more people on
a weekly basis. I think the year one hundred percent
the bigger start. I mean, what do you think the
ratings were higher, people were reaching more homes. Every shows
were reaching more homes. You know, what would you think?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I just I feel like it's a different time, you know,
the nineties to two thousands whatever. We always argue with that,
like if you look at the ratings today and wrestling
it's still hot, you know, but the ratings don't reflect
how hot wrestling is. You go to all these conventions
and the live shows are selling out and there's thousands
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and thousands of people, but sometimes you barely get a
two million, you know, percentage for your.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Show two million people watching. Back in the day, you'd
get like five, six, ten million a week watching wrestling.
Where are all these people at They're coming out to
the live events, they're hotter than ever, you know, where
are they at watching?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
That's the question that I have because the numbers don't lie.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I just don't understand, you know. But getting back to
your question, I feel like both of them for their time.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Were like on top of their game, you know what
I mean. And now to have them together it's something special. Yes,
I will agree to that because you see two generations
coming together.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
For me, I just I kind of think that the Rock.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Takes just a little bit of the edge away from
Scena being involved in this angle because he to me,
you look at the Rock and even though seeing a
turned heel, the rock is always going to be the
bigger heel because the Rock tempted him with the apple,
and now he's following suit. So I think it just
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takes as breath taking the turn it was. It just
takes a little bit away from it, in my opinion,
But still excellent, Still an excellent I think it was
long overdue.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But what time.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I mean, it's a great time to do it his
last year. You know, it gets people talking, It gets
people more interested in WrestleMania.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I liked it. I liked it a lot.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
All right, there's a couple more things we got to
break down here from it. Did you see the Travis Scott.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
To Cody.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Don't get me started on that.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
First of all, somebody needed to smarten him up on
how to either I don't know if it was a
punch or an open handed slap.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
That's how you puncture somebody's ear drum. That was that
looked to me it looked like look at that. It
looked like it was right on his ear. Do you
know you can puncture somebody's ear drum with an open
slap like that?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Look at that?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, you're right. It's almost exact location.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
It's right on his ear.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
And you know how I know this because back in
ECW when Rick Rude wore the mask, I was told
I had to smack him in the ring. And I
smacked him and I could not see where his ear was,
and I punctured his ear drum.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Oh wow, okay, and he came up to me.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I didn't know I did it because I couldn't, you know,
with that mask, I couldn't see a thing.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So I just swung at him right and he came.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Up to me and he held his nose and blew
and I heard a whistle coming out of his ear,
and I just looked at him, and he goes, you
punctured my ear drum, and I said, I'm sorry, but
I could not see your ear.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And I don't know if he moved his head because.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I really wasn't aiming for for this part of his head,
but it just so happened that my hand, and it
wasn't deliberate.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
All.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I would never want to hurt anybody, but I punctured
his ear drum. You know, now, if he didn't have
the mask on, you know, I usually aim for your chin,
and I'm sure that's what I did. But I don't
know if he leaned in a little bit or I
just missed because the mask was hiding everything.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I got put the mask, and that mask was very
kind of strange where I could see wherever you aimed it,
it could if it hit here.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
You know, how do you know an ears right there?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I did not know his ear was right there, and
he was pissed.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
He was pissed. But again, it wasn't my fault. I
didn't do it on purpose. You know, I would never.
I've never as many times as I slapped somebody, I've
never went for the ear.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And I've slapped quite a few men in that company,
you know what I mean, and women.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
So But but getting back to Travis Scott, he should
know better, like somebody should have smartened him up how
to work, because you know, you get in there with
these green people who don't know what they're doing, you.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Can really get hurt, right.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And you know, I don't know if any damage came
to his ear, but I got pissed when I saw that.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I was just like, man, why would he aim?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You know, I know you're out there and the people
you're getting hype and your adrenaline is going and.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Still like we're there to protect each other. He saw
he could see his ear clearly, and he went right
for it.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Now again, do you think it's a case of somebody
being over enthusiastic.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Do you think it's a case of.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Him just being caught up in the moment, or you know,
do you think it's a case of they're being a
little bit too lax on?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Oh he's smoking his stuff in the ring.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Oh, look at him. He's Travis Scott, He's this big star.
And you know what if he is being a little
bit you know, uh, too cool for the room with
his little smoke, he could be getting under the influence
and that's why he just got a little too slap
happy and they smacks Cody Rhodes right in the middle
of the ring.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well, that's that's the point I was just trying to make.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
It's like, when you're out there, you're adrenaline is going,
and you got the crowd behind you, and you're like, well,
hype up and you want to look like you're a
strong guy, and so you just give a wild swing.
But did anybody tell him like, you know, hit him,
like hit him low on the face, don't go near
his ear, you know, watch his eye.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Like, did anybody smarten him up? Was he just like
over zealous when he was out there?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
But is he you know, he's under the influence now
he's they're letting him smoke.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
It is Why are they letting somebody smoke weed when
there's a million children in the audience?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Because he is who he is and this is cool.
We can do that now.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Now I don't find it cool.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Call me an old I was gonna say, that's all
that's old man, Chad.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
So I just know that. I'm not saying you have
to be Pg. Thirteen.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
But you know, smoking weed in the middle of a ring,
if that's what he was really smoking, you got a
million kids there, like, why would you do something like that?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
And Cody Rhoades dropping the F bomb?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Didn't love that either, But again, I you know, I
got a blondehaired good friend that used to drop the
F bomb.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, right with you, right by his side every week.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I just gonna say I didn't mind the F bomb
so much. The weed kind of bothered me if it
was really weed, But the F bomb, I was just like,
oh well, edgy, you know, and it's Cody big babyface.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So I kind of was digging that part, to be
honest with you.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Now everybody's talking about Hogan ninety six, Sena twenty twenty five. Yeah,
biggest heel turns of all time, you know, Sena, We've
been waiting for it, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But I feel like the Hogan turn.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Is just on another plane. You know, it cannot be touched.
And I feel like if you're gonna start saying it's
the biggest one since that, you then start to omit
other things and people can enter other heel turns into
the chat. And now how do you say, oh, that
wasn't a big deal, or oh that wasn't a big deal.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Do you compare the other two at all?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I think Hogan's was far superior. And I don't think
I'm the only one who would say that out loud.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You're not.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I would completely agree with you on that.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I kind of saw this coming. I wasn't sure when,
but I wasn't surprised by.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It either, you know what I mean. He wasn't going
to go his whole career as a babyface, So right place,
right time, right, WrestleMania perfect? But did it compare to Hogan?
New New? Now?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I got one that I will put on the same
level as Sena that I didn't see coming when it
happened mine, thank you, No, no, no, it's not you.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
No, it's w W. Do you think you might have
an idea what I'm gonna say. No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I don't think so. You think to before he said
you had something to tell me?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Okay, no what he what?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
All right?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
So think about the level a guy we're at. We're
at Hogan. Yeah, so if we're going to enter heel
turn into the conversation, how is nobody talking about this one?
Austin McMahon, That wasn't a big deal. I mean, guys
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thought McMahon for five years and then he turns and
goes with McMahon. I think that's on the same level
as Sena.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Oh yeah, but it's still not on the same level
as Hogan.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Oh it's not touching Hogan.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
But I think if you're gonna compare Hogan and Sena,
you gotta at least compare Austin to Sina.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Nobody's even talking about this.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I don't know. Maybe people saw this coming a mile away.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I don't think anybody saw John Cena coming because you
can't see him. Seriously, I saw it coming. You didn't
see this coming with Sina. You didn't see it heel
turn coming?
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Uh not really, No, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I thought it wasn't ever.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I didn't know when, but I knew it was gonna
happen before he retired. And why not do it right
before WrestleMania because it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Oh, it makes perfect sense right now? Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
And honestly I see him going over at WrestleMania and
then his final match is when he puts Cody over
and then he's gone.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
If he goes over at WrestleMania, can't be clean.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Well, exactly.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
And again that's where I bring this back up, because
that was the whole point of aligning with McMahon was
that it wasn't clean. He had to do whatever he
could to get the belt back after not having it
for as long as he didn't have it. Do whatever
you can to align with essentially the devil, which is
what the Rock is now the devil, which again I
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love that. I love that Babyface Rock corny as Corny
is gonna.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Get this works.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Vince the Devil Rock the Devil it wore works. But
that's who I compare the sena Heel turned to is Austin.
Now here's the deal. Austin turn cataclysmic flop. But it's
because two competitors went out of business the month before.
(23:17):
So that's why it didn't work.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
How do you blame me, CW for that not working? Well?
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I had to bring a full circle back to the
co host and how you can input.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, I was. I was a big factor in that flopping.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
My best I'm going off topic here, but my best
memory of the Austin Vince feud far nine is when
Vince was in the hospital, Steve comes in and just
starts beating the pissy out of him in the hospital.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Funny the bedpen, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
And that was the greatest TV ever, Like I love
that stuff. It was so great, so great.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
And I liked Austin better when you was feuding with
Vince and not aligned with him just to and you
know me, I go with the Heels all the time.
But I thought he was out his peak performance when
he was babyfaced Steve and just beating the piss out
of Vince McMahon.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
So there that summer when he was aligned with Vince,
that's when him and Kernan Angle were both injured, and
they're doing Jimmy crack Corn and they're doing the little
cowboy hat and all that time, and it's like it
killed the mystique of Austin for a while. But again,
it's just the shock of the turn. I go with
that on the same level as Austin.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It was great. I didn't see it coming. I know
you did. I didn't.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Maybe I could see it happening during this room and
just not when they did it. But you can just
see the cracks happening. And I hope he wins at
WrestleMania and then his last batch he puts Cody over.
One last thing about seeing it before we move on.
Did you see the post show press conference.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I saw John when he just sat played with the mic,
dropped the mic and walked out.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
He did the old life drop.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, it didn't take to a question. Great.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I thought that was very well done.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yes, listen, he's an actor. He can play the good guy,
he can play the bad guy. And I believe that
everybody in Las Vegas is going to boo the hell
out of him.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
At Rustlemania, and.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
It's gonna be a fun match, you know, like you said,
if they incorporate a bunch of different people, which I
love the way everybody ran in on the last one,
if they could do something, something more than just the
rock coming out, I think it's gonna be such a
good time.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I really do.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
I can't see them not doing that with how much
I mean, the ten millions of shares that they had
on Twitter like the next day, can't see them.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
It was on ESPN, it was on like every it
was on Fox.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
News when they had all that stuff going on.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I can't see them doing that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Well, we'll see. We are about forty something days away
from WrestleMania forty one, so it will be fun to
see where this angle goes. But I'm going to be
the first to say I love He'll sina.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I concur I love him.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
So there we go, bald Spot and all love him.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I saw somebody put him in w and then as
bald Spot. They put him as the Oh, come on,
the guy.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Still a handsome man.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I like him, take his money any day of the week.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I like him. He wasn't the only one that made
headlines really quickly. We had two people come back. We
had Jade Cargill and we also had Randy Wharton returning.
A very lean Randy Wharton might gat looked fantastic the
Jade storyline, her going in Naomi.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Attacking her because I guess she thinks that Naomi is
the one who beat her up and put her out
through the windshield of the car.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So that's gonna be interesting. They had a.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Clip of Bianca Belle Air going ballistic in the chamber
and it'll be fun to see how that one plays
out as well.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
So yeah, it was confused because I didn't know anything
about it, so I was watching all of it on
on X while it was unfolded, And her playing that
up was very very dramatic, very well.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Very dramatic, very exhausting because she still had to get
out there. I would have been blown up by the
time I had to run to the ring, So good
on her.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Angles like that that keep the fans wanted more. So
it's gonna be fun to see how they pull this
one off.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
If you had to be stuck inside of that little
chamber box.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Would you be able to do it?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Would you be caustrophobic?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
No, I'm fine. I'd be fine in there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I don't get clousophobic and like like l elevators or
that type of thing. I think if uh, if I
had to maybe be in a casket.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Oh okay, yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Deal that might after a while, I might say, get
me out of here.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
But I don't type spaces. Don't bother me too much.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
You were never in one of those matches where you
had to be elevated above the ring in the cage.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
No, I had to climb the cage once.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I think, okay, it's something where I had to do
something and climb the cage.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
But I never had to. Uh, I would do that.
I would still do that.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I that was always a great gimmick.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
You know they put the mini cage, you put the
manager of the cage, elevate them above the ring.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
The last time I saw that done, I think it
was a dom Mysterio was up in the cage for
during one of the one of the matches.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Perfect guy for it.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, I would definitely do something like that. I don't
like heights though, that's my phobe. I don't like heights.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
They won't put you up that high.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, yeah, like, we're more on a plane. If I
could see houses, I'm cool. But when we're all the
way up, I'm just like, oh god, I can't even
look out the window half the time. So and I'm
flying this week. Can I plug the show?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yes? Please? And then I have something else I want
to talk.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
You want to keep talking?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Okay? No, it is something that was uh it was
on X earlier this week. Just a funny thing. You know.
It tickled me greatly when this was posted.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Uh courtesy of the history of e c w uh,
just to go back in the way back machine for
those of us that remember this lovely destination.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
And now you kid afternoon video game, Laurel.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, I seen it. Funk Land. That's great.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Some of the comments that video game sucked. It's the
worst video I have ever. I'm like, dude, are you
in a video game?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
No? I am.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I just loved Funko Land. That's I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Even remember going to Funko Land.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
They they sent me to quite a few places to
promote that video game, So Funko Land was only one
of the stops that I made, but I'm sure it
was a great time.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
You know what, I gotta do this I want to
find out what is that one O two oh Nixon
Drive in Mount Laurel.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Is that where was Nixon Drive?
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Beautiful Mount Laurel Strip Club or somethin.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Now Laurel, New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Let's see it is?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Is it a home depot?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Now? Is it st? Oh?
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Actually? Wow, it's odd brand so home.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
So this is great folk holand is the precursor to
what is there right now, and that is Game Stop.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Oh okay, Game Stop is still there. They're not sponsored,
so we're gonna stop talking about.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I mean, I'm not gonna say who.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
It is amazing, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
When I saw that pop up, I thought that was
so cool.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Thank you. Yes, okay. So I'm gonna plug this. Nothing
but a good time.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
This Sunday, March ninth, and it's gonna be at six
oh one North B Street.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I believe that says Hamilton, Ohio four five zero one three.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
So if you're in the Ohio area and you want
a good time, come see me. There's there's so many
stars that are gonna be there. Jake Roberts, Sandman, Jimmy Hart,
Matt Riddle, Ricky Steamboat, Shane Douglas, myself, Enzo, Mick Foley,
JBL tug Boat, and I'm sure some local people as well,
(32:16):
So there's gonna be I believe eleven o'clock is the
meet and greet and bell time starts at two, and
I'll be managing Shane Douglas.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I don't know if we're in a tag or what.
I wish it was Shane and Sandman together because that
would be ahote, but I don't know who he's working with.
But I'll be there and if you're there in the area,
please come and say hi.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I'd love to meet you, except if you're from the
management of Motley Crue, then don't go. Or is it
Motley Crue or is there Poisoner Motley Crue.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Emily out to use that song, it's said so on
Ig They're recommended it, so I played it while I
advertised myself. It's fine and it's a Sunday show, which
is different for me.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
So poison I said, Motley Crue, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, I don't. I don't return till Monday, so.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You know, if we're getting together, I'm gonna be one
tired little girl, but well I'll.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Do my best. You've got a record next week.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yes, yes we do.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Ricky Steinboat just turned seventy two on the twenty eighth
of February.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I thought you're gonna say turn heel. I was gonna say, really.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
You know, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
If he ever did, he'd be in that conversation because
he never turned heel.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, I know, but uh yeah, it's it's gonna be
fun when I'm with these guys.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You know, it's always a good time.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
So I get to meet Sandman on Saturday, we get
to fly together.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Should be a hoot and a holler and a good time.
So come see us, Come see us?
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Ohio. Nice?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, you got anything to plug?
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Well, we're building up up a nice big show in
Virginia Beach in May. I'll have that information coming probably
next week.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Oh May, Carol.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah.
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Speaker 4 (00:48):
What's chasing from practicing?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
For?
Speaker 5 (00:51):
What?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
What is that? Sorry?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Am I John Cena fan?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You're scowling at me? Let me tell you. Are we
getting right into this? Are we not even gonna talk?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
That picture is? Everywhere? It is the meme of all means.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Everybody is just putting that picture as the wallpaper.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's it's all over the place.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And let me say something. If you didn't see that coming,
something's wrong with you. That's all I'm gonna say. That's
the way I feel. This is his last year. They
had to do something, so I wasn't really surprised by it.
I'm just gonna put it out there.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
So are you trying to say it's not your same?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I mean? Is it? Because I'm a grizzled old vet
and I know my wrestling. I don't know. I don't know.
I thought it was done well, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And maybe the average fan didn't see it coming, but
I was just like, something's going down, Something's gonna happen.
And listen, this is a long time in the making too.
They've been talking a scena heel turned for years and
years and years and it's never happened, right, and finally
it happens. So I wasn't surprised by it. I know
(02:22):
a lot of people were.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I saw a really funny clip as they were walking
back to the locker room.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
It was a rock and Sena and Travis Scott and
there was one fan.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Who just kept going wha, see why over and over again,
and he would not crack a smile. But like, if
that was me, I probably would have broke character at
the cover of my face and laugh. Yeah, that's the picture.
Look at that face. It's like, oh that is That's
(03:03):
like every teenager's face when they have to like go
to school or do something or be nice to their
brother or sister or whatever. I mean, that face is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
And and look, I know you've said a million times
Cody needs to turn heel, but this just solidified him
as the greatest babyface of all time.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yeah, this is gonna make him an ultimate babyface.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Right, Oh my god, huge, huge, And when he took
the watch and he hit him with the watch, his
dad's watch. Oh, I loved it.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I love heel seen it help hold on?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
How many times over the years, right, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I met John Cena when I worked for the Fake
Easy Dub in two thousand and six and he wasn't
even like totally blown up yet. So he's been there
for like decades. Right, how many times has he gone
to the ring and he was either.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Uber over or it was like eh.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You know, kind of like we hate John now, like
either love him or you hate them. There's really no
in between. And now it's just everybody collective booze. This
is what I've been waiting for with this man. I
love heal Sina, I love him now. I don't like
(04:32):
the Rock being involved.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
What I don't I don't like it when I know
they're corporate and they just push himself into the main storyline.
I don't like that.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
See, No, I disagreed. I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I don't like Oh, I think it's uh. I think
it's you.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Know what with people are going to criticize it. They're
going to criticize the fact that you know, Rock and
Seena have this long history, and also at WrestleMania last year,
you know, they had that interaction during the match where
Sena came out to help Cody and Rock came out
to then beat up Sena. Like they'll maybe mention that,
but no, I love it. I think it's great because
(05:17):
that means it's like going back to the old you know,
we don't talk about the guy anymore, but Vince. You know,
when Vince would turn you and you went corporate, you
went with the boss, And this makes sense that you know,
there's obviously gonna be a Sena needs one last hurrah,
and the guy who's gonna make it happen is The Rock.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
You know, I think that I think this works. I
like this a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, I knew you would. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I just it's like when Triple H used to come
out and we knew he was like in charge of everything,
and he'd come out and he would do something and
then go over and it's just.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Like do you really need it? You know, I'm not
saying that the Rock doesn't do his job well because
I hate him. I hate him.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I hate the character. And that's what you want right,
you want to hate the Rock because he's a heel.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
He's playing it to perfection. I don't know if I
want him in this angle. I didn't want him in
the angle last year if you remember us talking the
Rock here. I just want him to be behind the scenes.
I don't know, that's just me. I just don't want
to see him on my TV.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, it's great. Now back to your SNA point.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
It became almost chic to boo him at a time
because when he was the champ, he was super over
and they were building him. It almost became just the
thing to boo him, you know what I mean, like music,
you boot him. But then by the end of the match,
everybody was cheering him.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
So I remember going to those.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Shows and being fifty to fifty when he came out,
and at the end of the night, you know, he
hit the attitude adjustment one, two three, the parties over,
everybody was cheering on.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
The way out.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
It just got to a point where they called it
Supersena where he was just untouchable.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
But it got the point with everybody.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
It got to that point with the Hulkster, it got
to that point, you know, with.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Austin it gets to that point when you're that level
of a guy, you just know they're not gonna lose.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
They're gonna get to that point with Cody at some stage.
I gotta say, this is the way to go. I'm
so pumped for WrestleMania now knowing that it's gonna be
a heel Seena against Cody rather than you know, Babyface
versus grizzled Babyface. You know, shaking handnds and mutual respect
(07:43):
and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
And ah man, this is just great.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
And heel Rock, you know in the jumpsuit, come on, like,
that's so great.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Jumps It's so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
How does the Rock incorporate himself into WrestleMania.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I think they saw how awesome a response they got
for that ridiculous run in thing last year, and they're
gonna overkill the hell of it again and bring it
up another tier. I think the guys that you didn't
see last year are gonna come back.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Are They're going to show up this year that weren't
there last year.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
But do you do you think the Rock interferes? Do
you think he doesn't? Do you think he's doing a
run in and interfering and getting himself over during Russell.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Now people are saying that if you go back to
Bad Blood, excuse me, the Rock did like a this
he did he held up three fingers.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Like the triple threat. Wow.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah, yes, yeah, you don't remember that he did like
he held it up like this and he was saying
it was a three finger. Now, some people were thinking
that John Cena was also doing the three finger at
one point. He was, but when he did when Rock
did this, he held up two fingers.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Some people say, well, is there a third person to
this group? So is this story over? We don't know
if it's done.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Interesting, I don't know again, I'm not I think the
Rock is uber talented, charisma coming out of every poor.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Orifice of his body, like he's got it. I just
knowing that he's in charge in the back. I just
wish that he would have stayed in the back, Like,
I don't know if we got it.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I don't know if we need him for this.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
It adds a different layer to the angle, for sure,
there's a you know, a different element with him being.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Involved in it.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
But do we really need him in this? Don't you
think John Cena could have turned heel on his own.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Possible.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
No, I don't know. I think kind of it takes
a little bit, just a little bit away from Sina
with Rock being there.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Okay, I got a counterpoint to that. In the match,
CM Punk had to get curb stomped right to get
knocked out. When he got curb stomped, Sena jumped like
enthusiastically on the knocked out CM Punk in a very
like ooh opportunistic way. So it was a little bit
(10:23):
of a hint that something was up with Sena. I
think that this version of Sena needs somebody like the Rock,
necessarily John Sena. The John Cena we knew prior to
this return didn't, but this John Cena might need the Rock.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Who do you think is the bigger star?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Yeah, anybody, as much as I think Sena is unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
If you if you took the stage in the nineties,
you are the bigger star.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Yeah. You you performed in front of more people on
a weekly basis. I think the year one hundred percent
the bigger start. I mean, what do you think the
ratings were higher, people were reaching more homes. Every shows
were reaching more homes. You know, what would you think?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I just I feel like it's a different time, you know,
the nineties to two thousands whatever. We always argue with that,
like if you look at the ratings today and wrestling
it's still hot, you know, but the ratings don't reflect
how hot wrestling is. You go to all these conventions
and the live shows are selling out and there's thousands
(11:38):
and thousands of people, but sometimes you barely get a
two million, you know, percentage for your.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Show two million people watching. Back in the day, you'd
get like five, six, ten million a week watching wrestling.
Where are all these people at They're coming out to
the live events, they're hotter than ever, you know, where
are they at watching?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
That's the question that I have because the numbers don't lie.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I just don't understand, you know. But getting back to
your question, I feel like both of them for their time.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Were like on top of their game, you know what
I mean. And now to have them together it's something special. Yes,
I will agree to that because you see two generations
coming together.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
For me, I just I kind of think that the Rock.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Takes just a little bit of the edge away from
Scena being involved in this angle because he to me,
you look at the Rock and even though seeing a
turned heel, the rock is always going to be the
bigger heel because the Rock tempted him with the apple,
and now he's following suit. So I think it just
(12:59):
takes as breath taking the turn it was. It just
takes a little bit away from it, in my opinion,
But still excellent, Still an excellent I think it was
long overdue.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But what time.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I mean, it's a great time to do it his
last year. You know, it gets people talking, It gets
people more interested in WrestleMania.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I liked it. I liked it a lot.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
All right, there's a couple more things we got to
break down here from it. Did you see the Travis Scott.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
To Cody.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Don't get me started on that.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
First of all, somebody needed to smarten him up on
how to either I don't know if it was a
punch or an open handed slap.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
That's how you puncture somebody's ear drum. That was that
looked to me it looked like look at that. It
looked like it was right on his ear. Do you
know you can puncture somebody's ear drum with an open
slap like that?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Look at that?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, you're right. It's almost exact location.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
It's right on his ear.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
And you know how I know this because back in
ECW when Rick Rude wore the mask, I was told
I had to smack him in the ring. And I
smacked him and I could not see where his ear was,
and I punctured his ear drum.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Oh wow, okay, and he came up to me.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I didn't know I did it because I couldn't, you know,
with that mask, I couldn't see a thing.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So I just swung at him right and he came.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Up to me and he held his nose and blew
and I heard a whistle coming out of his ear,
and I just looked at him, and he goes, you
punctured my ear drum, and I said, I'm sorry, but
I could not see your ear.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And I don't know if he moved his head because.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I really wasn't aiming for for this part of his head,
but it just so happened that my hand, and it
wasn't deliberate.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
All.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I would never want to hurt anybody, but I punctured
his ear drum. You know, now, if he didn't have
the mask on, you know, I usually aim for your chin,
and I'm sure that's what I did. But I don't
know if he leaned in a little bit or I
just missed because the mask was hiding everything.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I got put the mask, and that mask was very
kind of strange where I could see wherever you aimed it,
it could if it hit here.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
You know, how do you know an ears right there?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I did not know his ear was right there, and
he was pissed.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
He was pissed. But again, it wasn't my fault. I
didn't do it on purpose. You know, I would never.
I've never as many times as I slapped somebody, I've
never went for the ear.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And I've slapped quite a few men in that company,
you know what I mean, and women.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
So But but getting back to Travis Scott, he should
know better, like somebody should have smartened him up how
to work, because you know, you get in there with
these green people who don't know what they're doing, you.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Can really get hurt, right.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And you know, I don't know if any damage came
to his ear, but I got pissed when I saw that.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I was just like, man, why would he aim?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You know, I know you're out there and the people
you're getting hype and your adrenaline is going and.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Still like we're there to protect each other. He saw
he could see his ear clearly, and he went right
for it.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Now again, do you think it's a case of somebody
being over enthusiastic.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Do you think it's a case of.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Him just being caught up in the moment, or you know,
do you think it's a case of they're being a
little bit too lax on?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Oh he's smoking his stuff in the ring.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Oh, look at him. He's Travis Scott, He's this big star.
And you know what if he is being a little
bit you know, uh, too cool for the room with
his little smoke, he could be getting under the influence
and that's why he just got a little too slap
happy and they smacks Cody Rhodes right in the middle
of the ring.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well, that's that's the point I was just trying to make.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
It's like, when you're out there, you're adrenaline is going,
and you got the crowd behind you, and you're like, well,
hype up and you want to look like you're a
strong guy, and so you just give a wild swing.
But did anybody tell him like, you know, hit him,
like hit him low on the face, don't go near
his ear, you know, watch his eye.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Like, did anybody smarten him up? Was he just like
over zealous when he was out there?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
But is he you know, he's under the influence now
he's they're letting him smoke.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
It is Why are they letting somebody smoke weed when
there's a million children in the audience?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Because he is who he is and this is cool.
We can do that now.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Now I don't find it cool.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Call me an old I was gonna say, that's all
that's old man, Chad.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
So I just know that. I'm not saying you have
to be Pg. Thirteen.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
But you know, smoking weed in the middle of a ring,
if that's what he was really smoking, you got a
million kids there, like, why would you do something like that?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
And Cody Rhoades dropping the F bomb?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Didn't love that either, But again, I you know, I
got a blondehaired good friend that used to drop the
F bomb.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, right with you, right by his side every week.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I just gonna say I didn't mind the F bomb
so much. The weed kind of bothered me if it
was really weed, But the F bomb, I was just like,
oh well, edgy, you know, and it's Cody big babyface.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So I kind of was digging that part, to be
honest with you.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Now everybody's talking about Hogan ninety six, Sena twenty twenty five. Yeah,
biggest heel turns of all time, you know, Sena, We've
been waiting for it, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But I feel like the Hogan turn.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Is just on another plane. You know, it cannot be touched.
And I feel like if you're gonna start saying it's
the biggest one since that, you then start to omit
other things and people can enter other heel turns into
the chat. And now how do you say, oh, that
wasn't a big deal, or oh that wasn't a big deal.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Do you compare the other two at all?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I think Hogan's was far superior. And I don't think
I'm the only one who would say that out loud.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You're not.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I would completely agree with you on that.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I kind of saw this coming. I wasn't sure when,
but I wasn't surprised by.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It either, you know what I mean. He wasn't going
to go his whole career as a babyface, So right place,
right time, right, WrestleMania perfect? But did it compare to Hogan?
New New? Now?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I got one that I will put on the same
level as Sena that I didn't see coming when it
happened mine, thank you, No, no, no, it's not you.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
No, it's w W. Do you think you might have
an idea what I'm gonna say. No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I don't think so. You think to before he said
you had something to tell me?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Okay, no what he what?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
All right?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
So think about the level a guy we're at. We're
at Hogan. Yeah, so if we're going to enter heel
turn into the conversation, how is nobody talking about this one?
Austin McMahon, That wasn't a big deal. I mean, guys
(21:16):
thought McMahon for five years and then he turns and
goes with McMahon. I think that's on the same level
as Sena.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Oh yeah, but it's still not on the same level
as Hogan.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Oh it's not touching Hogan.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
But I think if you're gonna compare Hogan and Sena,
you gotta at least compare Austin to Sina.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Nobody's even talking about this.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I don't know. Maybe people saw this coming a mile away.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I don't think anybody saw John Cena coming because you
can't see him. Seriously, I saw it coming. You didn't
see this coming with Sina. You didn't see it heel
turn coming?
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Uh not really, No, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I thought it wasn't ever.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I didn't know when, but I knew it was gonna
happen before he retired. And why not do it right
before WrestleMania because it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Oh, it makes perfect sense right now? Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
And honestly I see him going over at WrestleMania and
then his final match is when he puts Cody over
and then he's gone.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
If he goes over at WrestleMania, can't be clean.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Well, exactly.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
And again that's where I bring this back up, because
that was the whole point of aligning with McMahon was
that it wasn't clean. He had to do whatever he
could to get the belt back after not having it
for as long as he didn't have it. Do whatever
you can to align with essentially the devil, which is
what the Rock is now the devil, which again I
(22:49):
love that. I love that Babyface Rock corny as Corny
is gonna.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Get this works.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Vince the Devil Rock the Devil it wore works. But
that's who I compare the sena Heel turned to is Austin.
Now here's the deal. Austin turn cataclysmic flop. But it's
because two competitors went out of business the month before.
(23:17):
So that's why it didn't work.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
How do you blame me, CW for that not working? Well?
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I had to bring a full circle back to the
co host and how you can input.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, I was. I was a big factor in that flopping.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
My best I'm going off topic here, but my best
memory of the Austin Vince feud far nine is when
Vince was in the hospital, Steve comes in and just
starts beating the pissy out of him in the hospital.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Funny the bedpen, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
And that was the greatest TV ever, Like I love
that stuff. It was so great, so great.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
And I liked Austin better when you was feuding with
Vince and not aligned with him just to and you
know me, I go with the Heels all the time.
But I thought he was out his peak performance when
he was babyfaced Steve and just beating the piss out
of Vince McMahon.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
So there that summer when he was aligned with Vince,
that's when him and Kernan Angle were both injured, and
they're doing Jimmy crack Corn and they're doing the little
cowboy hat and all that time, and it's like it
killed the mystique of Austin for a while. But again,
it's just the shock of the turn. I go with
that on the same level as Austin.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It was great. I didn't see it coming. I know
you did. I didn't.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Maybe I could see it happening during this room and
just not when they did it. But you can just
see the cracks happening. And I hope he wins at
WrestleMania and then his last batch he puts Cody over.
One last thing about seeing it before we move on.
Did you see the post show press conference.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I saw John when he just sat played with the mic,
dropped the mic and walked out.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
He did the old life drop.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, it didn't take to a question. Great.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I thought that was very well done.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yes, listen, he's an actor. He can play the good guy,
he can play the bad guy. And I believe that
everybody in Las Vegas is going to boo the hell
out of him.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
At Rustlemania, and.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
It's gonna be a fun match, you know, like you said,
if they incorporate a bunch of different people, which I
love the way everybody ran in on the last one,
if they could do something, something more than just the
rock coming out, I think it's gonna be such a
good time.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I really do.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
I can't see them not doing that with how much
I mean, the ten millions of shares that they had
on Twitter like the next day, can't see them.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
It was on ESPN, it was on like every it
was on Fox.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
News when they had all that stuff going on.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I can't see them doing that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Well, we'll see. We are about forty something days away
from WrestleMania forty one, so it will be fun to
see where this angle goes. But I'm going to be
the first to say I love He'll sina.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I concur I love him.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
So there we go, bald Spot and all love him.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I saw somebody put him in w and then as
bald Spot. They put him as the Oh, come on,
the guy.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Still a handsome man.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I like him, take his money any day of the week.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I like him. He wasn't the only one that made
headlines really quickly. We had two people come back. We
had Jade Cargill and we also had Randy Wharton returning.
A very lean Randy Wharton might gat looked fantastic the
Jade storyline, her going in Naomi.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Attacking her because I guess she thinks that Naomi is
the one who beat her up and put her out
through the windshield of the car.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So that's gonna be interesting. They had a.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Clip of Bianca Belle Air going ballistic in the chamber
and it'll be fun to see how that one plays
out as well.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
So yeah, it was confused because I didn't know anything
about it, so I was watching all of it on
on X while it was unfolded, And her playing that
up was very very dramatic, very well.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Very dramatic, very exhausting because she still had to get
out there. I would have been blown up by the
time I had to run to the ring, So good
on her.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Angles like that that keep the fans wanted more. So
it's gonna be fun to see how they pull this
one off.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
If you had to be stuck inside of that little
chamber box.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Would you be able to do it?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Would you be caustrophobic?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
No, I'm fine. I'd be fine in there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I don't get clousophobic and like like l elevators or
that type of thing. I think if uh, if I
had to maybe be in a casket.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Oh okay, yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Deal that might after a while, I might say, get
me out of here.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
But I don't type spaces. Don't bother me too much.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
You were never in one of those matches where you
had to be elevated above the ring in the cage.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
No, I had to climb the cage once.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I think, okay, it's something where I had to do
something and climb the cage.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
But I never had to. Uh, I would do that.
I would still do that.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I that was always a great gimmick.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
You know they put the mini cage, you put the
manager of the cage, elevate them above the ring.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
The last time I saw that done, I think it
was a dom Mysterio was up in the cage for
during one of the one of the matches.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Perfect guy for it.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, I would definitely do something like that. I don't
like heights though, that's my phobe. I don't like heights.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
They won't put you up that high.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, yeah, like, we're more on a plane. If I
could see houses, I'm cool. But when we're all the
way up, I'm just like, oh god, I can't even
look out the window half the time. So and I'm
flying this week. Can I plug the show?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yes? Please? And then I have something else I want
to talk.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
You want to keep talking?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Okay? No, it is something that was uh it was
on X earlier this week. Just a funny thing. You know.
It tickled me greatly when this was posted.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Uh courtesy of the history of e c w uh,
just to go back in the way back machine for
those of us that remember this lovely destination.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
And now you kid afternoon video game, Laurel.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, I seen it. Funk Land. That's great.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Some of the comments that video game sucked. It's the
worst video I have ever. I'm like, dude, are you
in a video game?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
No? I am.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I just loved Funko Land. That's I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Even remember going to Funko Land.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
They they sent me to quite a few places to
promote that video game, So Funko Land was only one
of the stops that I made, but I'm sure it
was a great time.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
You know what, I gotta do this I want to
find out what is that one O two oh Nixon
Drive in Mount Laurel.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Is that where was Nixon Drive?
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Beautiful Mount Laurel Strip Club or somethin.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Now Laurel, New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Let's see it is?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Is it a home depot?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Now? Is it st? Oh?
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Actually? Wow, it's odd brand so home.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
So this is great folk holand is the precursor to
what is there right now, and that is Game Stop.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Oh okay, Game Stop is still there. They're not sponsored,
so we're gonna stop talking about.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I mean, I'm not gonna say who.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
It is amazing, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
When I saw that pop up, I thought that was
so cool.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Thank you. Yes, okay. So I'm gonna plug this. Nothing
but a good time.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
This Sunday, March ninth, and it's gonna be at six
oh one North B Street.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I believe that says Hamilton, Ohio four five zero one three.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
So if you're in the Ohio area and you want
a good time, come see me. There's there's so many
stars that are gonna be there. Jake Roberts, Sandman, Jimmy Hart,
Matt Riddle, Ricky Steamboat, Shane Douglas, myself, Enzo, Mick Foley,
JBL tug Boat, and I'm sure some local people as well,
(32:16):
So there's gonna be I believe eleven o'clock is the
meet and greet and bell time starts at two, and
I'll be managing Shane Douglas.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I don't know if we're in a tag or what.
I wish it was Shane and Sandman together because that
would be ahote, but I don't know who he's working with.
But I'll be there and if you're there in the area,
please come and say hi.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I'd love to meet you, except if you're from the
management of Motley Crue, then don't go. Or is it
Motley Crue or is there Poisoner Motley Crue.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Emily out to use that song, it's said so on
Ig They're recommended it, so I played it while I
advertised myself. It's fine and it's a Sunday show, which
is different for me.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
So poison I said, Motley Crue, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, I don't. I don't return till Monday, so.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You know, if we're getting together, I'm gonna be one
tired little girl, but well I'll.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Do my best. You've got a record next week.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yes, yes we do.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Ricky Steinboat just turned seventy two on the twenty eighth
of February.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I thought you're gonna say turn heel. I was gonna say, really.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
You know, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
If he ever did, he'd be in that conversation because
he never turned heel.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, I know, but uh yeah, it's it's gonna be
fun when I'm with these guys.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You know, it's always a good time.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
So I get to meet Sandman on Saturday, we get
to fly together.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Should be a hoot and a holler and a good time.
So come see us, Come see us?
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Ohio. Nice?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, you got anything to plug?
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Well, we're building up up a nice big show in
Virginia Beach in May. I'll have that information coming probably
next week.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Oh May, Carol.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah.
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