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September 11, 2025 • 45 mins

In this Eyes Up Here FLASHBACK, Francine sits down with the last ECW Champion, Rhino! 🦏 The “Man Beast” looks back on his wildest ECW memories, unforgettable moments in the ring, and the secret behind his incredible longevity in pro wrestling. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M and I have even better news joining the show.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Eyes up here is Uh is an absolute man beast
of an individual.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I am very pleased to.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Bring the show the one and only the last ECW
World champion.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
He is rho joining the show.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
What happened?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
What's going on? Yeah? I got the email yep, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Through and nobody thought I did, but it was sitting
in the email.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Took me five minutes descended and then you pop up
before I even pushed that.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Oh my god, No, my email is very sensitive. I
think it's because of my phone. If if you capitalize
the first letter, it won't come through.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Well, you know what, honey, you're a very sensitive man.
I come to learn that about you. Are you? You're
coming off a.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Big review yeah yeah for Impact Wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yeah, so what I think you got robbed? What happened?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Uh? You raked my eyes and uh eyes? Yeah? And
then yeah, Matt Cordona rolled me up. All the trunks
and actually the crowd boot. They did not want to
see Heath and I get eliminated.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
But can I say I love you and Heath together.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Oh you know what, thank you. I appreciate that. Everybody.
I think you know because they love him, and you
know they they loved him and the one man band.
I got kids and I need this job. And then
it was such a mismatch that it just worked. You know.
So we're such and the cool thing about it is

(02:20):
we're a classic tag team. You know, we travel together,
we roomed together, you know everything, you know, go to
the gym together. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
So I like it because when we were at Wrestle Cade,
you were sitting like across the room from us, right,
and Heath was in my group with you know, we
were all brought in by the same promoter and he
was standing on his chair and he's going, Rhino, I
miss you, screaming. You were so far away. But you

(02:53):
guys are great together. I love you guys as a team.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I think it's great.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
I think it's a great chemistry and a great dynamic.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
And you know what, it was only supposed to last
for a match or two, but it's one of those
things where the fans really took to it, and that's
why you know it's still going today. Yeah. So it's uh,
you know, from WWE to Impact Wrestling, and we'll do
a lot of indie shows together, and we'll do a

(03:21):
lot of singles matches on the independent scene. But yeah,
people love it, and you know, and he's just such
a great guy. Yeah, family guy, and he's just funny
and you know, and even when I think he's not
trying to be funny, he's just funny, you know. And
he's a good person, good soul too.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
I just met him recently, like last year was the
first time I ever met him at one of the conventions,
and he's become one of my most favorite guys in
the business because he's just he's so damn to earth
and just like Country, doesn't give a crap, like whatever. Now,
he's really really a good person that I now, and
I don't even know him that well. So how fun. Well,

(04:03):
I'm so glad that you and I reconnected because it's
been a while since I've seen you. I'm not really
sure when the last time was that.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
It was I think it was right before your your
first was born, your first You were at my show? Yeah,
I was at your show.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yes, and you you a couple months ago. Yeah, we
watched the show. I remember what happened. So I got
I had to call the office. It was TNA. I
wanted you there, and I had to go through the office, right,
So I got yes. So I got you there, and
then the office called and they heard about the blood match,

(04:43):
and they told me specifically, he can't go on after
the blood you have to move him. And I said, no,
he's my main event. You were the only guy that
was on my roster that was on TV. All of
us were. You're the only one that had like a job.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Who did I wrestle. I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Oh God, I don't know, but you were. You were
supposed to be my main event.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I think you ended up in a three way with
Jamie Dundee and somebody else. I can't remember. It turned
into a little bit of a comedy because I had
to put you one like fourth, yeah, because of the
blood And I was so pissed off because I was
you were my big match and we had to change everything,

(05:28):
and you were so sweet. You were like, don't pay me,
and I said, no, I'm paying you.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
The Office's fall you know, the office. Yeah, the office.
They would they would let me work with some some
of the people, but yeah, sometimes it would just price
you out too high, and and I never liked that deal.
I if I'm going to do the indies. I like
to be able to work with the promoters personally under

(05:56):
that deal, and I understand what they were trying to accomplish,
but under that it was it wasn't really you know,
because I built a lot of relationships with the promoters
and talent that you know, decided to run shows, and
now they have to deal with the office and it's
a little more difficult to get stuff done because they're
in charge of twenty or thirty other you know, guys

(06:19):
or girls to book them out, and it just sometimes
they never get back to the promoters or they want
to charge them too much, and it's like, you know,
they don't realize, you know, promoters, you know, independent promoters
have a budget that they really have to stick to,
right you know.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
And so especially moret, I paid you what they told
me to pay you because.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I was like, this is not But I told them
to bring it down though too, you know. Initially, yeah,
they wanted like double I go, no, you can do that.
You know, even if it's a sold out show and
and you know, you do a pay per view and
you make millions of dollars, it didn't matter, you know.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
So yeah, it was Rhino versus Jamie Dundee versus Scottie
Anton Scotty and poor.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Scotty couldn't even walk at the time, like he had
just had a surgery. And I felt so bad, and
you were like, that's it, don't pay me. I was like, no,
I'm paying you. This, this isn't your fault. But I
think I had you wrestling like somebody else and I
can't remember, and then I had no shows and it
was just like I was eight months pregnant, right, like

(07:27):
this treat true.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
I know I've seen that. I'm like, whoa, I don't
know what I was thinking of doing that. That's gonna
hurt Francy.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Well, you know, you know what I always wanted to
ask you, did you ever feel bad about beating me up? No?

Speaker 3 (07:48):
You know what, I'm going to tell you a story
and I've never told anybody. Well, I never view this.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Oh I'm scared.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
So this was when I broke your nose. Is that
what you're talking about?

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Well, no, I was referring all the gours I took.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
But yeah, the broken well that that was just that
was just business. But that was just right the okay,
So do you remember Sandman wanted to jump on you know,
my shoulders and your managing PJ and then do like,
but he wanted me to hold you or hold him,
and then you're supposed to grab his leg and you know,

(08:27):
and Samman's you know, not as graceful as you know
he may think sometimes I love him to death. And
I understand where you wanted to go with it, you know,
because he's like, you know, do a frankenstein And I
think he used to do Frankensteiner's and they actually for
you know, for for being a guy his character and

(08:47):
his height and waity do him really well. But anyways, uh,
we're in and we never used crash pads except in
New York. So you come up to grab his foot
and you're there and he jumps up, but he doesn't
jump up and land on my shoulders. He like jumps
towards me, you know. So right when he jumps towards me,

(09:09):
I feel it's going over and I'm like, oh, I
got to try to hold him so we don't fall,
you know, to the concrete because it was concrete. It
was that venue in Virginia, you know, it was like
the outdoor theater we call we have one over here.
It's called duh was DT but it's fine. Not the amphitheaters,
you know. And Half's outdoor and there was a great crowd.

(09:32):
And then when we came over, you thought it was
Sandman's foot that hit you in the nose, and it
was mine, and and I went with it. I'm like, oh, Man,
that sucks. Sadman's foot hit you in the nose. And
I'm like because I felt so bad and it was
nothing was intentional. R you know, you got color, I

(09:53):
remember and I did so anyways, uh, I think black
Guy is the next day. So but I also and
Samman thanked me because he he was going head first
down to the concrete and I was able to reach
back and grab right that that the turnbuckle, you know,
so I stopped the momentum a little bit so we

(10:15):
could over rotate. But yeah, that was the day I
broke your nose. And I didn't have hard to tell you.
And then the next day you came to me because
you watched it on the e CW Hardcore came and go, oh,
it is your foot that that hit me. So I'm like, oh,
the gig is up. You know, I broke the nose.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
But yeah, oh I know that and I never like,
I never, oh no, I would never get me out
of you. But I remember exactly what happened. And I
remember there was a table set up in the ring,
and yeah, the thing through the table, and I remember
tugging on the leg. You guys come, and I was like,

(10:54):
this isn't good, This isn't going to end well. Like
I remember getting kicked because I was like, I wonder
if there was a steel tip in the boot.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah, no, it was just it was just the momentum
of my life foot coming over. Yeah, even though I
slowed him down, took because if he would have if
I didn't, if I mean, by the grace of God,
I was able to grab that and uh, and that
slowed the momentum down because if not, he would have
came down on his head and I would have landed
right on top of it.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Oh my god. Yeah, I got kicked. I hit my
head on the side. And then Chili Willy comes and
I was supposed to like have a dance off, yes,
and I remember there was and then I'm supposed to
king him after we dance, and the blood was just squirting,

(11:47):
and I remember I grabbed the cane. I said I
ain't dancing, and I just and then Tommy riding down
and grabbed me because I mean I was just I
remember the twos were up my nose and I was
just sitting there on the back and the bridge.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, and you go, oh yes, sand Man's foot and
I went with it.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Dr a drunken yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, correct and supposed to.
He's like yeah, and I'm like, you know what, I
might be able to do this, you know, and if
you would have jumped up and on top of my
shoulders kind of like Saboo and everybody, but he just
like jumped at me.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
But I remember that like it was yesterday. And I
remember I remember getting in the ring with you and
just you just looking at me and just saying, and
you don't remember this.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
You.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
He always used to look at me and he would go,
you're a slot slut because I like slot machines. You're
just a slut. And I would try not to break character.
You're like slot slot.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
It was funny because I would I would make I
would do stuff to pop Saboo and he was the
hardest to pop. Yeah. Yeah. One time, this was after ECW.
It was like five and we're in Jersey someplace, and
it was like a theater setting and it was like
forty five minutes east of uh maybe a half hour

(13:18):
east of Newark, but packed house, and we're fighting through
the crowd and he'd hit me and I turned around.
I just started screaming. And then he came to me
and I didn't think it was that funny, right, and
he would laugh, but he turns me around, he goes,
ha ha, stop that, and and I'm like, oh my god,
he laughed. So he punches me again, and I just

(13:39):
started screaming even louder, and he was laughing even more. So. Yeah,
he's the.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Best when he would punch you, and if he if
he potatoed you to go sorry, sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Sorry apologized before he'd hit me. Yes, I'm like, wait,
that's supposed to come after. He was great.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
I mean everybody always says like, who was your favorite
to work with? Everybody was so good in that locker room,
Like there really wasn't like a bad person, you know
what I mean, Like, did you did you ever have
an instance that you were like, oh god, like it
messed up so bad that it threw you off, and

(14:21):
like like House Show TV, Like, did you ever just
stop and say no professionals right off?

Speaker 3 (14:30):
People, everybody, everybody was great. I remember the one time
Sandman and Knu Jack got into a fight and it
escalated quick because normally they you know people, you know,
the guys would just go off and fight off on
their own and that was that, you know, even in
other companies. But they got into a fight, and that

(14:52):
threw me off because I'm like, you know, why would
you just you know, like, but it it escalated real quick,
like in the ring. No, it was in the back.
It was in the guy's locker room.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Oh that's yeah. I was there. Yeah that night that
I screamed and Dreamer was holding the merch money and
he dropped it. Yeah, he dropped it because he heard
me screaming. And a fan picked up the merch money
and run up.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you know. And and it was just
two men, you know. Like I said, it escalated quick,
and and they always loved each other, so it was
it wasn't you know, bad, and it was over with.
And I think more so I was getting out of
the shower and I was getting dressed, or it was

(15:44):
before I took a shower, and I was packing all
my bags and then my bag got kicked and everything
went everywhere. I think that's what upset me the most,
maybe not them actually fighting, but yeah, I gotta pack
this all over again.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Were you were you in the ring when when Hat
got naked in Pensacola? Were you in that A? I
was in that match? Yeah, okay, so we watched it.
We did it at the watch along and he's like
completely naked.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
I know, my big cane and this is my little queen.
That was awesome. Yeah. And then him and Jack, didn't
him and Jack get no, that was a pay per
view him. No, Him and Jack got into a fight
afterwards in the bathroom. Yeah because uh not Jack Victory.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Oh yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
And then because he came around and he whacked Victory
in the uh when he wasn't paying attention, and it
got his ear and ripped out his ear ring.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
And remember remember that.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
I remember that. And then he called him off to
the back and and uh they got in a fight
in the bathroom and I think Van Dam pulled him
apart and it was done, you know. But yeah, that
was that whole night because uh, I was uh, I
think I was traveling with Hack that loop. Yeah, so

(17:16):
so he was drunk from you know, we were because
we yeah, because we stopped and got oysters and I
didn't like oysters.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
That's an afrodia. Did you have a double date or something?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Didn't Why that's why he was so uh, you know,
wanting to drop his trousers because he was filling the
groove of the oysters. No. Yeah, because actually I think
Rob was No, Rob was at the same hotel or something.
I think that was the same loop because uh, sam

(17:53):
Man got a big escalator or No, it was a
I know, the Florida loop, but where we're in Pensacola.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
And I'll never forget it because when we were in
the locker room, it was early. I mean we were
there at like noon for summer. We were there really early.
And I remember we were all sitting in the locker
room and I was sitting facing this way and he
came up behind me and he was naked. He put
his penis on my shoulder and I'm francy and turn

(18:25):
around and I had everybody giggle it and I knew
I felt something, but I assumed it might have been
his penis, and I was like, get it off me.
I'm not turning around and get off me. He thought
it was hysterical, and he was brushing and brushing his
pubic hair with the girl's hair brushing.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Well, do you know why he did that?

Speaker 4 (18:48):
We put it on my shoulder. No, he ate a noist.
He was romantic.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Watching the pubic hair.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
We're running out of options here.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
I don't right, well, he said, because if you remember,
I think we had to be there early because Paul
had a meeting, right because the checks were late. And
remembering Jackie looked out the window because you could see
the water, right, I see the money coming on the
boat or whatever, you know, joking around and explain, you know,

(19:17):
the money's moving here. I forget exactly Paul's speech. But
and the checks weren't terribly behind, but they were a
week or two. He'd hit a couple and catch up.
And but anyways, so Samman later told I don't I
don't know if he told me this or if I
an interview, or I don't know how far it wasn't

(19:39):
too much later after the incident, I don't think. But
he said he did all that to take the heat
off of Paul, you know, because everybody you know, it
was tired of checks, you know, being late or whatever,
and and so that's what he said the motive behind
getting naked was and it just escalated from there and
by the time he go to the ring, he was

(20:01):
so hammered. I remember being in the ring, and I'll
tell you another good story about this. I don't know
if I've ever said anything about that, but uh, but
I remember him coming through the crowd and he looks
at Dreamery goes, I'm soft. Uh, I'm sof and drunk. Right,

(20:21):
I'm like, this is going to be a great match, right, So.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Just went down.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Right. So here's here's something I don't think I've ever
talked about. But because you know, I don't want to
admit I was I was still a little green man.
You know, it was only five years in the business,
and you know, still I'm green. But I forget, I
forget what the actual finish was. Right. So Hack's doing
a couple of things, and by this time, the whole

(20:50):
the whole match, we just want to get out of there,
you know, and we we gave some time, and uh,
I mean everything's just getting sideways. So I kept kicking
out right, and then finally he hits you know, the
finish whatever it was one, two, three, and Dreamer was like,
why were you kicking out? I go because it wasn't
the finish he called it was it doesn't matter when

(21:14):
when stuff gets terrible, like you did, you know, and
goes salad real quick. He goes just you know, let's
want two three and get out of there. You know,
my god, Rob, because it was one of those events
that go down in history.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
This was a classic moment of anything can happen at
a house show, right right, unscripted. We didn't have to
follow any rules. I think I had already worked. So
I was sitting like there was a stage. I was
sitting just watching through the curtain and I could not
believe what I was just like, oh, my god. Like

(21:51):
at one point he went and he grabbed Jazz and
tried to bring Jazz to the ring and she had
no part of it and she ran to the back.
Oh it was a mess, and like your faith, Like
you looked confused, but you're trying to look mean, but
then you would look confused and look and then you
know it's trying to be carena and he's looking around.
And then Tommy, you could just tell is pure disgusted,

(22:14):
Like his face was just fuming, and I'm just like
are they bringing it home? Like are they going to work?
And tried to work a little bit.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
You know. It was like it was amazing.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
It was so good.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
And you know what was funny is because we had
we had I think it was eight man or or
yeah it was eight man, Yeah, okay, I remember, and
it was like the week before we had uh we

(22:47):
had the same matt you know, the same competitors, you know,
people involved, and it went great. And it was in
Dayton I'm sorry, Columbus, Ohio. Okay, we're up first too
because Raven and Pack and Dreamer and and whoever was
it Krena And it was just great. And then they say, Paul,

(23:08):
you've got to check this match out. This is the
main event anywhere, so we'll throw it in there in
the main event. And and then that happened. So it
never happened to get that match. But yeah, in in Columbus, Ohio,
it was that small building we'd run, but it would
just be packed and just intense and yeah, and uh
it went uh it it went awesome, and uh yeah,

(23:32):
and then check this one out Cain and here's my
little cane down DVD is E.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
C W Pensacola, Florida. Sandman gets naked. That's what it
says on the DVD.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, so the match is the match is out there
or no watch? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yeah? Do you watch Alans every week on the Patreon
And I'm made sure to put that on as one
of the matches we watched because I told I was
telling Chad, I said, you know, I was there live
and it was amazing, So if you've never seen it,
you have to check this down. And he was just like,
what the hell am I watching?

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I was like, I don't even know.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
I couldn't even tell you. But it's that kind of
stuff that like made E c W just so different
and special, Like like I always I always tell people
if it sounds so corny, but if you weren't a
part of our locker room, you wouldn't understand. You don't
get it, And you had to be one of the

(24:37):
boys in our locker room to understand everything that we
went through together. Some of the stuff you can't make
it up, like it's so bizarre.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I remember him using I think it was down Marie's brush. Yeah,
and She's like, well, I'm never going to use that again,
you know. And a lot of people were put off
by his antics in the locker room because remember it
was like this big open.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Yeah, you know room that week windows and yeah, he was.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Just you know, and I understand, you know, his motive behind,
you know, when he said he was trying to get
the heat off of Paul.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Right, you know, I mean, if that's honest, that's nice
of him. But I just thought he was just wasted
too early.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
He was wasted. Yeah, I think he had to get
wasted to do all that stuff, right, I mean, that's.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Really Oh my god, that's so crazy. There's a question
for you ten dollars. Super Chat Michael's Wrestling channel says, Hey, Rhino,
I remember meeting you back in mayor June of twenty
thirteen at the Minneapolis Convention Center. Chad wants to know
who did you face it that show? Because I am
thinking x POC. Do you remember that.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Show if it's Jerry Lynn's retirement match. I haven't. I
don't think I've wrestled the XPOC since WWE. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, I said Jerry Lynn faced x POT in Jerry
Lynn's retirement That's not running.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
No. Yeah, oh, I think that's because meeting you back
in because I know I don't do a lot of
It was Minneapolis convention. Yeah, so I remember, uh who
did wrestle? I remember who was sitting next to Alice

(26:28):
no at the gimmick table. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
So okay, Well, Michael, thank you for your question. Tell
us about the company that you run now.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Oh, it's called IWR Insane Wrestling Revolution, and we want
to try to get you in Francine.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
I well, the last message I got was let me
talk to my business partner, and that was like a
week ago.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, I've been well. I had a show the twenty ninth, already,
first of December, on the third for a I think
it was a six day loop up in Canada.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Then I got home and then I healed you and
said hey.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Right, and then I'm like, for sure.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Kidding though, don't take my text talk.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
I thought you meant this as to do this.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Oh no, no, I wanted you for this because you
said you would do it from the arena.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
You're talking about. Yeah, and then uh, and then I
left for TV. I drove down there three or four
days ago.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
So often how often do you work for impact, Like
is it once a month that you guys travel for
them and.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Then sometimes it's twice a month. You know, they you know,
an impact has been great. I mean it's uh, Damor
runs it. And he's really built a solid locker room
and you know when talent comes and goes, he always
you know, uh, you know, keeps a good solid locker room.
I'll bring in fresh talent and stuff and younger guys
and and uh you know they'll have veterans to work

(28:01):
with the younger guys and yeah, so it's it. And
and the cool thing about it is is they they
find a way to get all the talent on TV.
You know, so that it's very important because you know,
they know they're talented, so that's why they're there. But
you know sometimes other places, you know, you're not overexposed.

(28:24):
You know, it's like you're not overexposed there. So sometimes
you know, you know, people are always in every segment
and it's just like all right, come on, you know,
and have the rosters and on the TV products. So
you know, they do a good deal of putting people on.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
I got to go to a like an after party
and it was just Impact people and most of the
people I never met in my life. And I said, Oh,
they're not going to want to I'm old, Like, they're
not going to want to talk to me, and let.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Me tell me. Came over.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Yeah, they were the best. The girls I loved. All
the girls that were in that room were awesome. The
guys were the sweetest, Like there was twenty two people
in the room. Shane and I were like the oldest
people city. It was so fun and I was getting
flashbacks to the nineties and I was like, I want
to be an Impact. These kids are good, Like, seemed

(29:21):
like such a great locker room to be in.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Oh, it is, it is and that's you know, and
and Scott realizes importance and you know you have to
have you know, and even Triple H when he he
was the one that you know, wanted to bring me
back to WW to work with a lot of these
guys at NXT being in the ring with you know,
a veteran and a guy that's been on TV, and

(29:44):
you know, and and even you know, I've been blessed
to be on TV all these years, whether it was
with ECW or WW, you know, with Impact for so
many years. And then from there I was with Ring
of Honor for like two and a half years, and
then then I was with NXT. I was off of
TV maybe the whole since ninety nine, maybe the total

(30:08):
of two and a half years. So I've been blessed
enough to be able to stay consistent on TV and
you know, and a lot the cool thing about One
of the cool things about you know, online and having
an online presence for a lot of wrestlers is they
can stay relevant with social media and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
That's me.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I don't do any of that, you know.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
That's the only way I'm relevant because I'm nowhere on TV.
So I try to get my mug out there somehow.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
But sometimes, you know, you know, sometimes when you're online
and you know you have a social media presence and
you know you could be more relevant than if you're
under contract with a company, you know, sometimes utilize it.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
I'm hanging in there. We have a couple of questions
for you here. Scott Smith wants to know what did
you think about Bully Ray's return to Impact and is
match with Josh had hard to kill just a few
days ago.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, yeah, I love Bully Ray. I always think, you know,
not only in the ring, but behind the scenes he
offers so much you know. Well, you know, he wore
many hats when he worked with ECW, like a lot
of people, you know. And I've learned so much from
him in the ring and out of the He's gave

(31:26):
me a couple great like uh, I don't want to
say fatherly but brotherly advice. Yeah, big brother advice and
uh and used the least amount of words but made
the most impact, you know. Yeah, and then uh, but

(31:46):
I I've seen bits and pieces because we're up after
his match, but uh, he always hits home run. And
we're at the E c W Arena. I actually just
worked Rob and Bully was up with Cardona and they
were up first, and they had a hell of a

(32:07):
match they did. Yeah, and it was I mean I
watched that because we're up last, and and Rob and
I we didn't go out until eleven thirty and and
the crowd was so into our match. Yeah. And Van
dam is still as over as he was you know

(32:28):
when he was in Oh. Yeah, and thank you for
saying that. But I'm just like they love him. I mean,
it's just you know, And and we went out there
and we worked hard and and that splash is as
tight as it was. I'm sure you when I took it,
you know X amount of years ago. Yeah, yeah, but no,

(32:51):
I'll tell you one advice. You know, I was in
a relationship. This is after I was married, and it
wasn't a good relationship. I don't want to talk about
anybody when not here. And Bubba looked at me and
he goes, can you marry her? And I go no?
Without even skipping a beat, he goes, you know what
you got to do? And I'm like, pretty much like

(33:12):
that was the most simplest thing to say, Hey, get
rid of her, you know, without saying get rid of it?
Can you marry her? No? All right, well you know
what you got to do?

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Oh my goodness, Hans, Hi, honey, how are you? Hans
wants to know who was your toughest opponent. He's thinking
Tazar Saboo or no.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
I want to say me no, I'm still fearful of
the receipt I'm going to get.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
From I love you too much to hurt, but thank you.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
I appreciate it. I would probably say, uh, sab Yeah, yeah,
you never knew where he was coming.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Yeah, okay, we have another question here from Joe Wrestling.
What's it like teaming up with Heat Slater in w
W and Impact. We kind of went over that, but
you had mentioned earlier you love Heath.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, I mean it was great because a lot of
times it was funny because you know, when you're younger,
you want to be in the main event, and you know,
you're like, oh, you know, I'm not I'm second match
or I'm third match, and you're like, ah, you know,
and you know, and a lot of times when you
are you're like, oh, the show's dragging on. Man, I

(34:34):
kind of want to get a meal before everything closes.
And you know, when you're in the main event, you're
wishing you're you know, first, the second or third, and
you know, so so Heath and I we were always
up before intermission, right, and if we're up after intermission,
we you know, we wouldn't go politic to get ourselves,

(34:54):
but we're just like, oh, man, this really sucks. But
with him and and you know, if you're usually there's
five matches before intermission, and usually if you're we were third,
and and uh, you know, it was awesome, But when
we wrestle with the Huso's, we're usually uh, right, before
intermission and and uh, you know that was that was

(35:17):
always fun.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
So you guys are a great team. Well I don't.
I don't want to keep you any longer than I can.
Maybe you can come back and do a part two.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I'd love to maybe watch We'll watch a show together,
a couple of matches, that would be. Yeah, maybe we can.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Watch the Sandman Naked match, because I have it.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
We just finished getting it out of our eyes though.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
We'll watch it again. I cannot get enough of it.
I guess.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
I would definitely like to see that because I've never
watched that. Yeah, see we can get it from what
is that?

Speaker 4 (35:50):
What are those reaction videos where they put the little
box and then you watch, Yeah, that would be pretty good.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
That would be a good one. What I was wearing
my black outfit.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Right, it's very grainy, so it's hard to see what
a lot of people were wearing.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
But yeah, all I know is he is in the buff,
he's he has no outfit.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
We know what somebody's not wearing. Although we do have
to address too. I just shared the video the other.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Day on on Twitter, the match where Francine climbs in
the ring and the performs the wiggle on you from behind.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
I did.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Expecting Wiggle performed on Rhino.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
I don't remember where was that at? Do you know?

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Remember was the Staten Island?

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Okay? Whatever the entertainment.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
I had a time and thought it was funny, But
as I'm watching it back, I said, what the hell
am I doing? I don't trying to but you couldn't.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
See me right. One time I tried to do the Spinneroni.
It was so bad, but I was a baby face
and Booker was a heel. This was great impact and
the people loved it. So if I ever seen a
video of that, I'd probably say the same thing. What
the hell would I do?

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Chad, make a note that we have to find that video.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yes, yeah, making as we speak Liverpool England.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah, Liverpool England. Please write that down.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Impact Do you do.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
You have anything that you want to promote or tell
the people where they can find you.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
No, I don't do social media? Yeah, okay, are you
I have something? But you know, Impact Wrestling, so we're
you know, we're on every week.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
So okay, does your your company that you run do
you do any syndicated TV or YouTube channel?

Speaker 3 (37:48):
We have the YouTube channel, it's I w R Wrestling,
So yeah, checking us out and we run in Monroe, Michigan.
So if you have an area and people want to
get a ticket, yeah, we run great shows. We have
ips at six thirty to seven and then seven thirty
to nine, so we got a nine o'clock curfew on
the building. So we run thursdadays normally, but if we

(38:11):
can't do a Thursday, we'll do a Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
So we usually put three hundred and two four hundred
people in there.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
So well, I'll work with you.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
It's a great atmosphere. We want to bring you in.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Yeah, I will. My price probably scared you, but that's
for everybody.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well yeah, we'll have to do what
you can because I like you. Yeah no, and it'd
be great too. Shane always comes in and Shane loves
it and yeah, so it's a very good uh extreme fan.
What's cool is is, uh we have kids, you know,

(38:47):
and then we have adults. And in December was like
our anniversary show. So we always do great there and
uh you know there there's a bar there, so the
building they get the bar. It's the fo oh that's stuff.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
This is the wiggle Okay, I'm sorry he cut you
off in midsent. Oh you missed a wiggle.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
This is so stupid.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
I don't know what I was thinking. Oh, okay, yeah
it's Norman Smiley. I don't know, just being stupid.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Who jumped? Who jumped on you? Okay, so that's that
was a tag team, then, that's funny. That was probably
when I teamed up with.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Lance.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Maybe Lance and I was teaming with h was it?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
We just watched it and I can't even remember what
it was. I think it was.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
I don't know. Most of the time I was on
the opposite ends with you, but I remember being with
you doing promos together for us and I maybe it
was PJ.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
You were okay, it was working, Okay, it was Dreamer,
Raven and Sam and versus the impact players in Rhino,
Staten Island, New York, November eleventh, nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Right, but I'm saying, like when I worked with Rhino,
like as a heel.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Yeah, you were with usually with Dreamer.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Well, yeah, when Shane lived, I went with Tommy, but
then I went with Scotty for a minute, and then
I went with PJ with that incredible and you teamed
up with PJ for a while because we were doing
vignettes together.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Right right, Yeah, yeah, so I got to work with
you and Ma.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
And you, but most of the time I was getting
the crap knocked down, which was a pleasure, thank you.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
That was by the way.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Oh it was a horrible way. I don't even know
what I was thinking of. But anyway, this was fine.
It was nice catching up. I'm so happy I got
to see you recently.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yes, for sure, and we'll have to have you so
keep me probably looking at March.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Look, I'm I'm available.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Fly in and then fly out.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
I just want to stay and hang out and well,
you know what, that's the summertime.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
We'll take you out on the boat.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
Oh yes, but I'll tell my husband I have an
extra signing.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, doesn't. We'll put you up in nice hotels. You
know what's funny is when we have male talent come
in and they need a hotel, we put them at
you know, hotels that were worse than the kind of Yeah,
but whenever, you know, a lady comes in and we

(41:38):
always put them up nice.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
And yeah, I'm telling you, your gentle giants, we.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Try, we try so, but that's that's actually my my
business partner, Gary does that if I if it was
up to me, I'd put them in the accind of
lodge too. I'm not that much where the fun is,
you know, I'm what forty seven now, I'm going to
bed right after this. So there's no fun happened in
this in this neck.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Of the well.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
You know what's funny is uh? Heath and and Connor
came in and for a show in December, and talk
about fun, one of our sponsors brought a bunch of
food to Maya's. They they have a restaurant here and
the owner brought a bunch of food for everybody. And afterwards, Heath,

(42:30):
this is so old school. And and Connor, they bellied
up to the bar and they were there right after
their match. They didn't even put a shirt on. They
started drinking and they were there until three o'clock in
the morning in their gear, in their gear, no shirt,
no nothing. Loved it and yeah, and they closed it down.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Yeah, in my hook or outfit to the bar.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
There there you go. Yeah, everybody he's eating and everybody's
talking and having fun. And you know, well, you know,
when you run it, you're cutting checks and you're making
sure the rings loaded, the venues cleaned up, and you're
cleaning up the locker room. And then I'm leaving at
eleven thirty. And then I call the guy that's supposed
to take him to the airport and I'm like, hey,

(43:17):
make sure you get them. He's like, yeah, I just
crashed in the room. We didn't get out of there
until three o'clock in the morning. I go, please tell
me they didn't put their shirt on. He goes, no,
they were. They were in their gear and shirt until
they were done.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
I just want to tell you one thing. I don't
accept checks. And you said, why maybe from any.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, you don't have to. You don't have to run
to the bank. You know.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
The door, you know.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
I never had to check the bounce I.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Had ten in a row.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Whoa, but he paid.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
He paid all the bounce fees. They were thirty five
dollars each check, right, and he did. I went and
I showed him all the and he paid all the
bounce fees for me. So thank God for that. What
ten in a row?

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Right? Yeah? That that might be a record. I think.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
It's one I did not want to achieve.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
But right, good off it.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
So anyway, This was fun.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
A lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Thank you so much for coming on.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
All right, thank you for having me.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Yeah, we'll talk again and whenever you need me, just
give me a.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Ca Okay for sure.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
We love Rhino.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Thank you, have a good night.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
We take care of hi, buddy. Yeah.

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