August 12, 2025 • 34 mins
"This week on Eyes Up Here, The Queen of Extreme, Francine, steps into Netflix’s world of WWE Unreal. As a lifelong fan AND a veteran of the business, Francine shares why the series had her hooked from the first episode — but also why certain moments left her shaking her head. From the behind-the-scenes drama that felt all too real, to the storylines that might’ve been a little too scripted, Francine breaks down what works, what doesn’t, and what it all means for wrestling fans today. Whether you loved Unreal, hated it, or haven’t watched yet, this is one conversation you won’t want to miss."
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
H m hmmmm, h.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
M hm h m. Hey everyone, it is between the
(00:35):
Dream Racing. Then you are listening to Eyes up there
with the line Lately the network. Before we're leaving the podcast.
As always, I am joined them from this chat. What's up?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What up? What going? How are you living?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm living large?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
We too, loving, loving life.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Love and life. How's your summer going?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh it's great. Fun in the sun, you know, digging
the heat, digging the cool weather that passed through here
this last week. Yeah, it's been uh yeah, it's been
a breeze awesome. I can't wait for fall birthday not
that far out. I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Having another party that I'm not invited to.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I haven't planned it yet, but if I if I
plan one, I'll be sure to tell you.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
The day after, I'll be sure to tell you I'm
not coming. But thanks anyway for.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
The invite your yearly tradition.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
At this point, yes, this is six years in the making. Perfect.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Every thing's all good. How about yourself?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Not bad? Not bad? Have the weekend off. We're recording
on a Friday this week, so we're gonna do some
swimming tomorrow. I think it's going to be hot. Get
some food in, watch some movies. Just the very uh,
very leisurely kind of weekend. I like those.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I did four go trivia tonight. Mmmm for my obligations
to eyes up here.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Were you going to go to a bar for it
or were you having like a house party?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
No, it is my monthly winery.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Trip the wine. That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
We turned the winery into the bar.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
We bring it. We bring the house down down, we
bring it down. But last month, a little bit of
controversy at the old trivia night. Oh yeah, yeah, No,
the normal trivia question picker was not available, so they
went to one of they went to a game called
what the hell was it? Like? Either it was called
(02:44):
like you didn't learn this in school or something like that.
Like it was something like you didn't learn this in school,
or you may not have learned this in school, or
something like that. So they in school, Yes, that's the one. Yes.
So it went from like pop culture music and movies
of the eighties and nineties and TV and yeah, fun
(03:06):
fun stuff and to like the hardest questions in history.
And my team, which is usually the top team in
the building, suffered dramatically from the yeah from the much
heavier educational switch. So this was gonna be a comeback month,
but they swerved us. So it's usually this was supposed
(03:28):
to be in the twenty first and they switched it
to the eighth out of nowhere. What the hell's that about?
So they lost me out of sheer incompetence and bed
question picking.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, gotcha. Well sorry you had to miss it, but
you know, priorities ISoP here comes first.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I mean, of course, I mean the eyes up here,
that signal.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, the ringing yeah to answer it, of course. Well
we're together today because there was a show that premiered
and again we're a little late to the party on
this one, but I did watch all five episodes and
that show was titled WWE Unreal, Unreal, and it was
(04:13):
the buzz of the internet. Everybody was talking about it.
So I said, you know what, let me sit down
and let me watch this now before we get into anything.
And you know, there's a million people who have you know,
picked apart each episode. We're not going to do that here.
We're just going to give you an overall consensus of
what we thought about the show as a whole. But
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let me tell you something about this type of doc
because this is what it is pretty much, it's a
docu series. As a fan of the business, I enjoyed
this immensely. I love seeing the inner workings of a company.
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I love knowing what's going on behind the scenes. I
like seeing talent and interact with each other. It was very,
very interesting to watch. Now, the flip side of that is,
I'm not just a fan of the business. I am
also involved in the business and have been for thirty
(05:17):
two years as a performer, as a podcaster, as a YouTuber,
as a whatever you want to call it. I've been
involved in the business for thirty two years now. This
type of stuff kind of makes me angry. It's like
(05:40):
when you go to a magic show and you're watching
a magician, right and you don't know how he does
a certain trick, and you're wowed by that trick. It's like,
if I knew how he did the trick, I wouldn't
be so intrigued and I wouldn't want to watch it.
(06:01):
So kind of, you know, watching this is kind of
the same deal. You kind of see behind the scenes
and you're not supposed to really see behind the scenes,
and kay Fabe's going out the window and somebody will
argue with me and say, well, kay Fabe's been dead
for years. But like when you come from that old
school mentality of trying to keep the business sacred, so
(06:24):
to speak, and secrets behind closed doors, and then you
get docks like this. I mean, it kind of all
started with Beyond the Mat And when we have Barry
on the show, Barry Blaustein, who is the director, producer,
whatever title he had, one of the main guys who
ran that doc. I brought that up to him and
(06:47):
I was like, you know, the boys were just hot
because this is something sacred and this is something that
we try to keep k fab for the longest time.
You know, the heels hung out with the heels, babyfaces
hung out with the babyfaces. They don't do that anymore.
But back when we were on top, you didn't have
the Internet, and you didn't have the social networking that
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you do these days, and you didn't have me versus you.
And then after the show we take a selfie together
holding a beer, and then we put it online and
say what a great match we had tonight. Because you
know why, in twenty twenty five, we're all smart marks
we all know the inner dealings of the business. We
all know that you and I are friends and not
(07:32):
really enemies. And I'm not trying to install anybody's intelligence
by saying, you know, back then it wasn't a work,
because it was, but we tried to keep as much
as we could a secret to pop the fans, to
make it believable, to make them want to watch the program. So,
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you know, in a way, I feel like this takes
away from the product because now we know how everything
is done. Where's the wonder, where's the I don't know
the like we know everything now, we know how it works,
we know the inner workings of backstage area, we know
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what Gorilla looks like, we know who's friends, we know everything.
So you know, it kind of takes away from the
performance in a sense. So I'm kind of torn. The
fan in me loves this is what the performer in
me hates it.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
That's a great assessment. Wow, Yeah, I don't know even
know how to follow that one right away. Beyond the
mat is what made me want to pursue not even
just wrestling as a somewhat career, but also television production
because I got to see what the WWF production looked
like this made Beyond the Mat look like it was
(08:55):
filmed in somebody's backyard. I mean, this was well insane.
The amount of just you know, the sheer amount of
production that they exposed you to versus like what Beyond
the Mat showed you, like, it just was a complete
utter difference. But they did not show you that much
and Beyond the Mat as compared to this, I mean
(09:17):
they literally explained it with graphics and breakdowns, and that
was very surprising to me because again, now as just
a fan who managed to work in the business and
got to see things from the production side, it's just
(09:39):
hard to see this stuff being put on video. I mean,
it's weird. I'm not gonna lie it's weird.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
It just you know, it just takes away from the performance.
Like when you saw the gorilla position, okay, and you
saw whoever the agents were, the producers of the match,
sitting there in front of the monitors with the headsets on,
(10:06):
telling the ref to tell a certain wrestler okay, put
them in a choke. Okay, wait, okay, you're gonna do this,
You're gonna do that. If you didn't know this was happening,
you would think the two people that are working in
the ring are just calling everything on their own and
how brilliant it is because they're orchestrating this beautiful dance
(10:28):
and it's just the two of them. But here you
also have the referee involved, you have the agents involved.
God knows who else is telling the agents what to
tell them in that headpiece. It's just a lot of
information that's being shown to the world that I think
didn't need to be shown. It takes away from the performance,
(10:50):
in my opinion, And as much as I love to
see that kind of stuff, I think it kind of
hurts the business in a sense. Yeah, it's just the
way you look at things, you know. And like I said,
as a performer, I wasn't a fan of this, but
as just a wrestling fan on the outside looking in,
(11:11):
I love that kind of stuff, you know. And I
don't know how much of this was a work and
how much.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Of it was a shoot bingo.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's another thing. You know, you're hearing certain things were
orchestrated for this television show. One of the examples that
I heard was Charlotte Flair coming back from her return
then calling all the girls into the one room or
Gorilla or wherever they were and applauding her. I was
(11:44):
told that wasn't organic. You know, that was like a
forced thing. I don't know if it's true or not.
So again, with these reality shows, just how much is
real and how much is scripted? We don't know. Yeah,
but I think it just opens the door too wide
for the average fan because now everybody's smart, everybody thinks
(12:09):
they know what's going on. It's too much.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah, your grandma can watch this now and be smart
to the wrestling business because she just saw how the
Royal Rumble finish was booked. Yeah, and that they thought
maybe a double elimination could have been a unique way
to have Chelsea Green win by herself with nobody else there.
Anybody could just flick by Netflix and see the poster
(12:35):
and go, oh, this is interesting. But yeah, I agree
with you on the genuine partner. I was trying to
just I'm just trying not to be a cynical with
certain things and just trying to go at it a
little bit more genuine with how I'm watching things. As
we're reviewing more longer form products, I'm not just trying
(12:56):
to go and going, oh, it's gonna suck. Ah, this
is gonna be bad. And I felt the same way,
like I'm all right, I'm just gonna put the glasses
on and just say, Okay, I'm watching this as a
fan and whatever, and I'm just looking and like, I
feel like I'm just watching a kind of produced Netflix show,
not a documentary, because I just feel like they know
(13:16):
the cameras there, so they're just they're doing certain things
for the freaking camera, to include production people that are
normally not on camera. They know the cameras there, so
they're gonna do certain things for the camera. I mean,
like it's human nature. So I don't know, that's just
that's that's my feeling. But I really liked certain aspects
(13:37):
of this, so I'm not gonna just shit on this.
I thought this was a great piece. And again, like
for me, I had I put in a twenty three
year career in television because I watched Beyond the Mat
the first time in nineteen ninety nine. So I thought,
if somebody is like that and my shoes watching this,
(13:59):
this could be a catalyst for somebody to get into
that world as well. Because it was great. I mean,
and you know, I don't know what things you want
to cover specifically. One question I have for you, hang,
I'm sorry you mentioned about the agents and calling stuff
in the headset when you were there in two thousand
and six, and when I was when I worked in
(14:19):
the production studio, I was just in the studio, so
I didn't go into you know, gorilla position. I didn't
see any of that. Did the agents still sit right
next to where they were positioned in this documentary? Was
that still like a thing then? So before you when
you would go out for your match, would your agent
be right there.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'll be honest with you, I don't mean no, no, okay, no,
I don't remember I I and the matches that I
did have there, I never had the referee tell me
a thing, and I didn't have many, to be honest
with you, but when I did, even with the bikini
stuff that we did, like there was no there was
(15:02):
no not the agents, but there was no referee telling
us what to do, like we just orchestrated everything in
the back. And my TV time there was with Shelley
and it was the same deal. Everything was done in
the back. So I don't know, I will say though,
getting back to one of your points you said, this
(15:26):
doc makes Beyond the Mat look like whatever whatever you
compare it to. Barry was very limited in his filming,
especially in our locker room. The guys did not want
him there. So when you see the ECW footage, he
(15:48):
got what he could, but we were trying to keep
it rap like under wraps because you know, like the
top guys like Perry and Taz and those guys, they
didn't want Barry in locker room. So you know, as
far as like the ECW footage goes, he was very
limited onto what he could put on film. Now, he
(16:10):
had a lot more free rain when he was at
WWF because if you remember, he said, they welcomed him
more than we did. But it's just because we were
trying to protect the business because you know, it was
the nineties and back then they didn't have all this
information out there and we barely had the internet running,
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and we were trying to keep things kfee because we
didn't want the fans to know what was going on.
So as we're sitting there going over a pay per
view match, here comes Barry with the camera and everybody's like,
get out of here, Barry, and I felt again, I
felt so bad for him because he was just trying
to do his job. And that's why if you watch
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that video with him won Er, he was like, Francine,
you were always nice to be and I said, I
so bad that the other guys were healing you. But
I understand why they were, you know what I mean?
And now we're you know, this day and age, everything
is put on film. Nothing is sacred anymore, so everybody
(17:15):
knows the inner workings of the business. And that's what
gets me a little hot because we tried to keep
it a secret for all these years and now everything's
out there. So again, part of me hates it, but
part of me also loves watching this kind of stuff.
I love anything behind the scenes of any franchise that
(17:37):
I am interested in because I like to know the
inner workings of stuff. But should I be privileged to
know these things as just a fan? Should I be privileged?
I don't know. I think it's just they gave us
too much. But there, you know, this stock was in
(17:58):
five different parts. The first episode New Era, then we
went to an episode called Push, there was Worth the Wait,
there was Heel Turn, and then there was WrestleMania. So
what did you like, I mean, what were your standouts,
What did you like seeing the most, Because again we're
(18:20):
not going to go over each and every episode, but
what did what stood out in your mind?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Back to the production point, I loved when they showed
the layout of Gorilla position. I love how they showed
each producer's role what they do. I love how they
told what each producer you know, will get to be
like doing in a match. I absolutely loved how they
(18:47):
showed the one main event where they were stressing out
about the time I was punkin Rollins on the raw
Netflix debut and stressing out about the time what they
had to cut and explaining how just because they're on Netflix,
they don't that doesn't mean they have unlimited time and
they had to cut stuff out on the fly and
(19:08):
communicating that that part I was. I felt that to
be the most gripping part of the entire series because
it showed how Joseph Park is so like passionate about
what he's doing and putting the best product out there.
I just thought that was so great. But it also
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exposed something to with WWE and the Old Guard is
that afterwards he thought he had heat with Bruce Pritchard,
for cutting the spot out of the match, and he
had to counsel with William Regal, So he got that
little bit of the tense part of the match and
then that little bit of politics that he still had
to deal with that will never leave WWE no matter what.
(19:53):
So that was my favorite part of the entire series,
was that sequence. Yeah, but yeah, that was my favorite.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
See, the stuff that was my favorite is also giving
away the business. So again it's like the fan versus
the worker kind of aspect. I kind of enjoyed watching
the talent interact with each other, going over what they
(20:21):
were going to do in their matches certain things. Wasn't
it when Punk says to Charlotte jershit in the ring, right?
I found that to be entertaining. It's funny stuff, right,
But then it's like as a fan and you know,
(20:46):
here I am watching them go over this when it's
it's again I keep using the word like sacred, but
it's it's all out in the open and we get
to watch it. I'm sitting in the writer's with Triple
h And and the writers at the table. I just
feel like they gave us it was just too much,
(21:09):
too much for the average fantasy. It's exposing our business
to a point where there's no turning back now because
every inner working of the company is being shown and
there's there's nothing left to give.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
And it gave you room to second guess things because
you saw who's actually doing it. Somebody could sit there
and say, oh, I'm better than that guy.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Everybody, everybody can write a better role.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Or well, now you saw who does it, you can
now get put the face with the name. Yeah, but
I get you know, the rear Ripley injury where they
literally have her getting injured, the actual segment and the
fallout and all that. I mean, I thought that was great.
I thought the uh that I loved. I just think
(22:02):
it's funny, the whole triple h pulling jay uso aside.
You know, I'm going to put a rocket on your ass,
and you know the secret of talking to him, you know,
and the discussion of is he the right guy to
do this? It is this the time? I mean, that's
interesting stuff. I mean that that to me was was
(22:23):
good because it was very controversial.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah. Interesting, yes, but.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
But right should it be seen?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, like like them saying, well, you know, jay Us
is blown up, He's got to get his cardio up.
Blah blah blah. What I don't want to hear that.
If I'm Jay us, so I don't want to hear
you know what I mean? There were just certain things
I feel should have kept behind closed doors. I think
they exposed it way too much. And now it's like,
(22:56):
you know, are they going to do this all the time?
Are we going to know every every single pairing, every
single thing that happened, every single road to WrestleMania. Is
there going to be a doc on it? Money? Yeah,
Like I understand the whole concept, but I just I
don't know, just being in the business, it just it
(23:17):
kind of left the bad taste in my mouth. I
think it's it's too much.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
And.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I don't know it's not going to hurt them in
any way. I don't think. I don't think somebody is
going to say, well, now that I know they're not
really friends, I'm not going to watch the show. I mean,
that's you know, that's not going to happen. But I
just I like a little bit of mystery in certain
things that I watch. Again, I go back to the magician.
(23:48):
I don't want to know how he does the magic tricks.
So I really don't want to know how WWE does
every single thing that they're showing us. And at this rate,
we're going to get a a doc and a reality
series or of every single thing because guess what, it's
generating income for that company, and that's why they're doing it.
(24:08):
So I get it to a point. But I just
I loved again being an old school fan. I just
love the way it was back in the nineties because
everything was a mystery. You didn't know who really liked
each other, who didn't, what was a work, what was
a shoot. You had to guess at certain things. I
(24:29):
just I find that error to be so much more
entertaining now ech everything's just handed to you on the
silver player. You know every single thing about the business,
and I don't. I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, I think that's why it's hard for a lot
of fans to distance themselves from the heels and the
faces of cheering. Like I said, everybody gets a pop.
I think it's because everybody wants to love everybody, and
you know, you see all the arguments all the time
on these these social media posts. You can you can
cheer for whoever you want and who cares and blah
(25:04):
blah blah blah blah. It's because now they're so invested
in knowing the people and that you watch this documentary,
and how do you not like Rhea Ripley, How do
you not like John Cena a little bit more? How
do you not like Charlotte Flair a little bit more?
From the human perspective?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, because you're getting to know the person, not the character.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
But but they're they're fans. Aren't separating those two anymore?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. And and
I'm gonna watch them. If they come out with another
doc I'm gonna watch it. I'm not gonna lie. I
watch all these things because they're enjoyable. I like them.
But it just goes back to me being a performer, saying, geez,
(25:50):
when did you draw a line? How much? Next you're
gonna go into the men's bathroom and somebody's gonna be
taking a crap and they're gonna be talking and you're
gonna see it all. I mean, it's like, what what
will they not show?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Go to go to NXT next with the next one
and follow will follow. Shawn Michaels get off of Triple
H for a little bit. It was just a little
I mean I had way too much H or Triple
H or Paul Avec or Hunter Hurst Helmsley, I had
those those graphic things were so nauseating where they were
(26:25):
giving all their names. Yeah, but oh my god, go
to NX do they want to do season two? Go
to NXT and do NXC for the kids coming in.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Do it like that.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I think that would be a little bit like almost
like documenting how a tough enough would go or something.
I think that would just change it up. Triple H
was a little nauseating after a while. So that's that's
how I would switch it.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Huh, Well, your dreams about going back there and work
and just got it.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Listen, trips, listen, I'll call them trips, I'll call them
h I'll call them Hunter, I'll call him all, I'll
call whatever he wants me to call whatever you want
you to call him.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Better it, don't call him at all. He ain't answered
for you. Yeah. Overall, I mean again, it's great, and
nobody does it better than WWE. Their production values are
through the roof, off the charts awesome. I just feel
like they they pulled the curtain back too much for
(27:24):
the average fan, and now everybody knows everything, you know,
everybody's a know it all, So for me, just a
little too much information out there, but enjoyable nonetheless. So
if you haven't watched it, I suggest you do. It's
it's a it's an easy watch too. At the time
(27:46):
flew By, I think we watched like I think we
watched all the episodes within like a two day span
or something. So good series. But uh, just man sae something,
you know, are we going to see a Triple h
and Stephanie's home movies, like videos from their wedding and stuff?
(28:07):
Is that next? Are they gonna do like personal like
behind the scenes of real life?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Maybe when Grandpa Vince comes back.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I don't think. I don't know. Maybe do you really
think anyone wants to see him?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Maybe if we watched the TMZ Hulk Hogan special.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Oh yeah, I saw that. That's a that's another thing
coming off, Like that's it?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Why he slowly? I told you he's slowly gonna be
coming back him?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
It's Alexa Bliss, is it? Paulovac? And then Charlotte Flair's.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Uh I didn't see that was Triple h gonna.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Be on the special, and I thought I saw his name.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Maybe not, I didn't. I didn't notice if he was,
but I saw Vince.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
What are we gonna get from it? Are we gonna
get just clips of the hulkster is from WrestleMania three
Slam and Andre like the biggest nWo Turn, And then
we're gonna get each guy or girl telling us what
Paul Kogan meant to them. That's what the show's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Look, I'm crying already.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Really, I'm not even gonna watch that.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I think everybody wants to hear Vince just say he
was the greatest he you know, I just no mustache, Vince.
The mustache is gone.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Well I don't. I don't even think I want to
watch it. To be honest with you, I don't know.
I might cave, but as of right now, I got
better things.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I would say. That is a Twitter clip.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Watch Are you gonna watch it? No?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I'm going to see whatever comes up on Twitter. If
it comes up as anything worth the damn, I will
go out of my way.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Well, you know what's gonna come up. All the quotes
from the superstars are going to come up, and that's
about it.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I just want to say, Evince, that's really all I'm
interested in.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Well, pull the Vince clip and we can do a
video on it.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
How about that He's the gift that keeps on giving.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, well, Vince has got a lot going on right now.
Like I said, he's in two court cases. He's juggling those.
We don't know what Janelle's thinking this week. Where's Johnny Ace?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
No one knows Johnny Ace was at Hulk Hogan's funeral.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Wow, there you go with Vince.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Vince Johnny were in the same room.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Were they together?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't think so. How crazy
is that?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
That was quite the star studded list.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Man, Do you think WWE will do a doc on
this whole fiesco?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I don't know. They're doing everything else, the unreal story
about the doc, of being unreal, of being at Hulk
Hogan's funeral.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
No, No, about the Vince McMahon scandal.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Oh, oh, you never know.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I mean they tend to do everything. Let's pull the
curtain on that one.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Anything.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I don't even want to see what's behind the curtain
on that one.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
To be honest with you, Behind Vince's Curtain.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah right, I don't know anyway. You got anything going
on that you want to play?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
No, nothing right now, but you know, stay tuned. We
got some big things headed your way. St Bruin Stuffs
to Bruin.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Okay, I have something I'd like to start promoting. Oh,
I'm going to be working with Nick from the Captain's
Corner August twenty third. We're going to be doing a
virtual My good friend Todd Gordon's going to be with me. Ooh,
and more information to follow, but I believe start time
(31:51):
is going to be six pm on that one, So
we're doing the graphics as we speak, and more information
will be on my socials, but save the date August
twenty third, six pm. We're gonna have eight x ten's
gonna be able to kiss those suckers. We're gonna have
some action figures and micro brawlers and all that good stuff.
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Nick from Captain's Corner. That's my next next appearance. Virtual
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As always, I am joined them from this chat. What's up?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What up? What going? How are you living?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm living large?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
We too, loving, loving life.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Love and life. How's your summer going?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh it's great. Fun in the sun, you know, digging
the heat, digging the cool weather that passed through here
this last week. Yeah, it's been uh yeah, it's been
a breeze awesome. I can't wait for fall birthday not
that far out. I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Having another party that I'm not invited to.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I haven't planned it yet, but if I if I
plan one, I'll be sure to tell you.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
The day after, I'll be sure to tell you I'm
not coming. But thanks anyway for.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
The invite your yearly tradition.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
At this point, yes, this is six years in the making. Perfect.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Every thing's all good. How about yourself?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Not bad? Not bad? Have the weekend off. We're recording
on a Friday this week, so we're gonna do some
swimming tomorrow. I think it's going to be hot. Get
some food in, watch some movies. Just the very uh,
very leisurely kind of weekend. I like those.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I did four go trivia tonight. Mmmm for my obligations
to eyes up here.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Were you going to go to a bar for it
or were you having like a house party?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
No, it is my monthly winery.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Trip the wine. That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
We turned the winery into the bar.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
We bring it. We bring the house down down, we
bring it down. But last month, a little bit of
controversy at the old trivia night. Oh yeah, yeah, No,
the normal trivia question picker was not available, so they
went to one of they went to a game called
what the hell was it? Like? Either it was called
(02:44):
like you didn't learn this in school or something like that.
Like it was something like you didn't learn this in school,
or you may not have learned this in school, or
something like that. So they in school, Yes, that's the one. Yes.
So it went from like pop culture music and movies
of the eighties and nineties and TV and yeah, fun
(03:06):
fun stuff and to like the hardest questions in history.
And my team, which is usually the top team in
the building, suffered dramatically from the yeah from the much
heavier educational switch. So this was gonna be a comeback month,
but they swerved us. So it's usually this was supposed
(03:28):
to be in the twenty first and they switched it
to the eighth out of nowhere. What the hell's that about?
So they lost me out of sheer incompetence and bed
question picking.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, gotcha. Well sorry you had to miss it, but
you know, priorities ISoP here comes first.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I mean, of course, I mean the eyes up here,
that signal.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, the ringing yeah to answer it, of course. Well
we're together today because there was a show that premiered
and again we're a little late to the party on
this one, but I did watch all five episodes and
that show was titled WWE Unreal, Unreal, and it was
(04:13):
the buzz of the internet. Everybody was talking about it.
So I said, you know what, let me sit down
and let me watch this now before we get into anything.
And you know, there's a million people who have you know,
picked apart each episode. We're not going to do that here.
We're just going to give you an overall consensus of
what we thought about the show as a whole. But
(04:35):
let me tell you something about this type of doc
because this is what it is pretty much, it's a
docu series. As a fan of the business, I enjoyed
this immensely. I love seeing the inner workings of a company.
(04:56):
I love knowing what's going on behind the scenes. I
like seeing talent and interact with each other. It was very,
very interesting to watch. Now, the flip side of that is,
I'm not just a fan of the business. I am
also involved in the business and have been for thirty
(05:17):
two years as a performer, as a podcaster, as a YouTuber,
as a whatever you want to call it. I've been
involved in the business for thirty two years now. This
type of stuff kind of makes me angry. It's like
(05:40):
when you go to a magic show and you're watching
a magician, right and you don't know how he does
a certain trick, and you're wowed by that trick. It's like,
if I knew how he did the trick, I wouldn't
be so intrigued and I wouldn't want to watch it.
(06:01):
So kind of, you know, watching this is kind of
the same deal. You kind of see behind the scenes
and you're not supposed to really see behind the scenes,
and kay Fabe's going out the window and somebody will
argue with me and say, well, kay Fabe's been dead
for years. But like when you come from that old
school mentality of trying to keep the business sacred, so
(06:24):
to speak, and secrets behind closed doors, and then you
get docks like this. I mean, it kind of all
started with Beyond the Mat And when we have Barry
on the show, Barry Blaustein, who is the director, producer,
whatever title he had, one of the main guys who
ran that doc. I brought that up to him and
(06:47):
I was like, you know, the boys were just hot
because this is something sacred and this is something that
we try to keep k fab for the longest time.
You know, the heels hung out with the heels, babyfaces
hung out with the babyfaces. They don't do that anymore.
But back when we were on top, you didn't have
the Internet, and you didn't have the social networking that
(07:10):
you do these days, and you didn't have me versus you.
And then after the show we take a selfie together
holding a beer, and then we put it online and
say what a great match we had tonight. Because you
know why, in twenty twenty five, we're all smart marks
we all know the inner dealings of the business. We
all know that you and I are friends and not
(07:32):
really enemies. And I'm not trying to install anybody's intelligence
by saying, you know, back then it wasn't a work,
because it was, but we tried to keep as much
as we could a secret to pop the fans, to
make it believable, to make them want to watch the program. So,
(07:54):
you know, in a way, I feel like this takes
away from the product because now we know how everything
is done. Where's the wonder, where's the I don't know
the like we know everything now, we know how it works,
we know the inner workings of backstage area, we know
(08:16):
what Gorilla looks like, we know who's friends, we know everything.
So you know, it kind of takes away from the
performance in a sense. So I'm kind of torn. The
fan in me loves this is what the performer in
me hates it.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
That's a great assessment. Wow, Yeah, I don't know even
know how to follow that one right away. Beyond the
mat is what made me want to pursue not even
just wrestling as a somewhat career, but also television production
because I got to see what the WWF production looked
like this made Beyond the Mat look like it was
(08:55):
filmed in somebody's backyard. I mean, this was well insane.
The amount of just you know, the sheer amount of
production that they exposed you to versus like what Beyond
the Mat showed you, like, it just was a complete
utter difference. But they did not show you that much
and Beyond the Mat as compared to this, I mean
(09:17):
they literally explained it with graphics and breakdowns, and that
was very surprising to me because again, now as just
a fan who managed to work in the business and
got to see things from the production side, it's just
(09:39):
hard to see this stuff being put on video. I mean,
it's weird. I'm not gonna lie it's weird.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
It just you know, it just takes away from the performance.
Like when you saw the gorilla position, okay, and you
saw whoever the agents were, the producers of the match,
sitting there in front of the monitors with the headsets on,
(10:06):
telling the ref to tell a certain wrestler okay, put
them in a choke. Okay, wait, okay, you're gonna do this,
You're gonna do that. If you didn't know this was happening,
you would think the two people that are working in
the ring are just calling everything on their own and
how brilliant it is because they're orchestrating this beautiful dance
(10:28):
and it's just the two of them. But here you
also have the referee involved, you have the agents involved.
God knows who else is telling the agents what to
tell them in that headpiece. It's just a lot of
information that's being shown to the world that I think
didn't need to be shown. It takes away from the performance,
(10:50):
in my opinion, And as much as I love to
see that kind of stuff, I think it kind of
hurts the business in a sense. Yeah, it's just the
way you look at things, you know. And like I said,
as a performer, I wasn't a fan of this, but
as just a wrestling fan on the outside looking in,
(11:11):
I love that kind of stuff, you know. And I
don't know how much of this was a work and
how much.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Of it was a shoot bingo.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's another thing. You know, you're hearing certain things were
orchestrated for this television show. One of the examples that
I heard was Charlotte Flair coming back from her return
then calling all the girls into the one room or
Gorilla or wherever they were and applauding her. I was
(11:44):
told that wasn't organic. You know, that was like a
forced thing. I don't know if it's true or not.
So again, with these reality shows, just how much is
real and how much is scripted? We don't know. Yeah,
but I think it just opens the door too wide
for the average fan because now everybody's smart, everybody thinks
(12:09):
they know what's going on. It's too much.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah, your grandma can watch this now and be smart
to the wrestling business because she just saw how the
Royal Rumble finish was booked. Yeah, and that they thought
maybe a double elimination could have been a unique way
to have Chelsea Green win by herself with nobody else there.
Anybody could just flick by Netflix and see the poster
(12:35):
and go, oh, this is interesting. But yeah, I agree
with you on the genuine partner. I was trying to
just I'm just trying not to be a cynical with
certain things and just trying to go at it a
little bit more genuine with how I'm watching things. As
we're reviewing more longer form products, I'm not just trying
(12:56):
to go and going, oh, it's gonna suck. Ah, this
is gonna be bad. And I felt the same way,
like I'm all right, I'm just gonna put the glasses
on and just say, Okay, I'm watching this as a
fan and whatever, and I'm just looking and like, I
feel like I'm just watching a kind of produced Netflix show,
not a documentary, because I just feel like they know
(13:16):
the cameras there, so they're just they're doing certain things
for the freaking camera, to include production people that are
normally not on camera. They know the cameras there, so
they're gonna do certain things for the camera. I mean,
like it's human nature. So I don't know, that's just
that's that's my feeling. But I really liked certain aspects
(13:37):
of this, so I'm not gonna just shit on this.
I thought this was a great piece. And again, like
for me, I had I put in a twenty three
year career in television because I watched Beyond the Mat
the first time in nineteen ninety nine. So I thought,
if somebody is like that and my shoes watching this,
(13:59):
this could be a catalyst for somebody to get into
that world as well. Because it was great. I mean,
and you know, I don't know what things you want
to cover specifically. One question I have for you, hang,
I'm sorry you mentioned about the agents and calling stuff
in the headset when you were there in two thousand
and six, and when I was when I worked in
(14:19):
the production studio, I was just in the studio, so
I didn't go into you know, gorilla position. I didn't
see any of that. Did the agents still sit right
next to where they were positioned in this documentary? Was
that still like a thing then? So before you when
you would go out for your match, would your agent
be right there.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'll be honest with you, I don't mean no, no, okay, no,
I don't remember I I and the matches that I
did have there, I never had the referee tell me
a thing, and I didn't have many, to be honest
with you, but when I did, even with the bikini
stuff that we did, like there was no there was
(15:02):
no not the agents, but there was no referee telling
us what to do, like we just orchestrated everything in
the back. And my TV time there was with Shelley
and it was the same deal. Everything was done in
the back. So I don't know, I will say though,
getting back to one of your points you said, this
(15:26):
doc makes Beyond the Mat look like whatever whatever you
compare it to. Barry was very limited in his filming,
especially in our locker room. The guys did not want
him there. So when you see the ECW footage, he
(15:48):
got what he could, but we were trying to keep
it rap like under wraps because you know, like the
top guys like Perry and Taz and those guys, they
didn't want Barry in locker room. So you know, as
far as like the ECW footage goes, he was very
limited onto what he could put on film. Now, he
(16:10):
had a lot more free rain when he was at
WWF because if you remember, he said, they welcomed him
more than we did. But it's just because we were
trying to protect the business because you know, it was
the nineties and back then they didn't have all this
information out there and we barely had the internet running,
(16:34):
and we were trying to keep things kfee because we
didn't want the fans to know what was going on.
So as we're sitting there going over a pay per
view match, here comes Barry with the camera and everybody's like,
get out of here, Barry, and I felt again, I
felt so bad for him because he was just trying
to do his job. And that's why if you watch
(16:55):
that video with him won Er, he was like, Francine,
you were always nice to be and I said, I
so bad that the other guys were healing you. But
I understand why they were, you know what I mean?
And now we're you know, this day and age, everything
is put on film. Nothing is sacred anymore, so everybody
(17:15):
knows the inner workings of the business. And that's what
gets me a little hot because we tried to keep
it a secret for all these years and now everything's
out there. So again, part of me hates it, but
part of me also loves watching this kind of stuff.
I love anything behind the scenes of any franchise that
(17:37):
I am interested in because I like to know the
inner workings of stuff. But should I be privileged to
know these things as just a fan? Should I be privileged?
I don't know. I think it's just they gave us
too much. But there, you know, this stock was in
(17:58):
five different parts. The first episode New Era, then we
went to an episode called Push, there was Worth the Wait,
there was Heel Turn, and then there was WrestleMania. So
what did you like, I mean, what were your standouts,
What did you like seeing the most, Because again we're
(18:20):
not going to go over each and every episode, but
what did what stood out in your mind?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Back to the production point, I loved when they showed
the layout of Gorilla position. I love how they showed
each producer's role what they do. I love how they
told what each producer you know, will get to be
like doing in a match. I absolutely loved how they
(18:47):
showed the one main event where they were stressing out
about the time I was punkin Rollins on the raw
Netflix debut and stressing out about the time what they
had to cut and explaining how just because they're on Netflix,
they don't that doesn't mean they have unlimited time and
they had to cut stuff out on the fly and
(19:08):
communicating that that part I was. I felt that to
be the most gripping part of the entire series because
it showed how Joseph Park is so like passionate about
what he's doing and putting the best product out there.
I just thought that was so great. But it also
(19:30):
exposed something to with WWE and the Old Guard is
that afterwards he thought he had heat with Bruce Pritchard,
for cutting the spot out of the match, and he
had to counsel with William Regal, So he got that
little bit of the tense part of the match and
then that little bit of politics that he still had
to deal with that will never leave WWE no matter what.
(19:53):
So that was my favorite part of the entire series,
was that sequence. Yeah, but yeah, that was my favorite.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
See, the stuff that was my favorite is also giving
away the business. So again it's like the fan versus
the worker kind of aspect. I kind of enjoyed watching
the talent interact with each other, going over what they
(20:21):
were going to do in their matches certain things. Wasn't
it when Punk says to Charlotte jershit in the ring, right?
I found that to be entertaining. It's funny stuff, right,
But then it's like as a fan and you know,
(20:46):
here I am watching them go over this when it's
it's again I keep using the word like sacred, but
it's it's all out in the open and we get
to watch it. I'm sitting in the writer's with Triple
h And and the writers at the table. I just
feel like they gave us it was just too much,
(21:09):
too much for the average fantasy. It's exposing our business
to a point where there's no turning back now because
every inner working of the company is being shown and
there's there's nothing left to give.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
And it gave you room to second guess things because
you saw who's actually doing it. Somebody could sit there
and say, oh, I'm better than that guy.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Everybody, everybody can write a better role.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Or well, now you saw who does it, you can
now get put the face with the name. Yeah, but
I get you know, the rear Ripley injury where they
literally have her getting injured, the actual segment and the
fallout and all that. I mean, I thought that was great.
I thought the uh that I loved. I just think
(22:02):
it's funny, the whole triple h pulling jay uso aside.
You know, I'm going to put a rocket on your ass,
and you know the secret of talking to him, you know,
and the discussion of is he the right guy to
do this? It is this the time? I mean, that's
interesting stuff. I mean that that to me was was
(22:23):
good because it was very controversial.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah. Interesting, yes, but.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
But right should it be seen?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, like like them saying, well, you know, jay Us
is blown up, He's got to get his cardio up.
Blah blah blah. What I don't want to hear that.
If I'm Jay us, so I don't want to hear
you know what I mean? There were just certain things
I feel should have kept behind closed doors. I think
they exposed it way too much. And now it's like,
(22:56):
you know, are they going to do this all the time?
Are we going to know every every single pairing, every
single thing that happened, every single road to WrestleMania. Is
there going to be a doc on it? Money? Yeah,
Like I understand the whole concept, but I just I
don't know, just being in the business, it just it
(23:17):
kind of left the bad taste in my mouth. I
think it's it's too much.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
And.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I don't know it's not going to hurt them in
any way. I don't think. I don't think somebody is
going to say, well, now that I know they're not
really friends, I'm not going to watch the show. I mean,
that's you know, that's not going to happen. But I
just I like a little bit of mystery in certain
things that I watch. Again, I go back to the magician.
(23:48):
I don't want to know how he does the magic tricks.
So I really don't want to know how WWE does
every single thing that they're showing us. And at this rate,
we're going to get a a doc and a reality
series or of every single thing because guess what, it's
generating income for that company, and that's why they're doing it.
(24:08):
So I get it to a point. But I just
I loved again being an old school fan. I just
love the way it was back in the nineties because
everything was a mystery. You didn't know who really liked
each other, who didn't, what was a work, what was
a shoot. You had to guess at certain things. I
(24:29):
just I find that error to be so much more
entertaining now ech everything's just handed to you on the
silver player. You know every single thing about the business,
and I don't. I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, I think that's why it's hard for a lot
of fans to distance themselves from the heels and the
faces of cheering. Like I said, everybody gets a pop.
I think it's because everybody wants to love everybody, and
you know, you see all the arguments all the time
on these these social media posts. You can you can
cheer for whoever you want and who cares and blah
(25:04):
blah blah blah blah. It's because now they're so invested
in knowing the people and that you watch this documentary,
and how do you not like Rhea Ripley, How do
you not like John Cena a little bit more? How
do you not like Charlotte Flair a little bit more?
From the human perspective?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, because you're getting to know the person, not the character.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
But but they're they're fans. Aren't separating those two anymore?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. And and
I'm gonna watch them. If they come out with another
doc I'm gonna watch it. I'm not gonna lie. I
watch all these things because they're enjoyable. I like them.
But it just goes back to me being a performer, saying, geez,
(25:50):
when did you draw a line? How much? Next you're
gonna go into the men's bathroom and somebody's gonna be
taking a crap and they're gonna be talking and you're
gonna see it all. I mean, it's like, what what
will they not show?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Go to go to NXT next with the next one
and follow will follow. Shawn Michaels get off of Triple
H for a little bit. It was just a little
I mean I had way too much H or Triple
H or Paul Avec or Hunter Hurst Helmsley, I had
those those graphic things were so nauseating where they were
(26:25):
giving all their names. Yeah, but oh my god, go
to NX do they want to do season two? Go
to NXT and do NXC for the kids coming in.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Do it like that.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I think that would be a little bit like almost
like documenting how a tough enough would go or something.
I think that would just change it up. Triple H
was a little nauseating after a while. So that's that's
how I would switch it.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Huh, Well, your dreams about going back there and work
and just got it.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Listen, trips, listen, I'll call them trips, I'll call them
h I'll call them Hunter, I'll call him all, I'll
call whatever he wants me to call whatever you want
you to call him.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Better it, don't call him at all. He ain't answered
for you. Yeah. Overall, I mean again, it's great, and
nobody does it better than WWE. Their production values are
through the roof, off the charts awesome. I just feel
like they they pulled the curtain back too much for
(27:24):
the average fan, and now everybody knows everything, you know,
everybody's a know it all, So for me, just a
little too much information out there, but enjoyable nonetheless. So
if you haven't watched it, I suggest you do. It's
it's a it's an easy watch too. At the time
(27:46):
flew By, I think we watched like I think we
watched all the episodes within like a two day span
or something. So good series. But uh, just man sae something,
you know, are we going to see a Triple h
and Stephanie's home movies, like videos from their wedding and stuff?
(28:07):
Is that next? Are they gonna do like personal like
behind the scenes of real life?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Maybe when Grandpa Vince comes back.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I don't think. I don't know. Maybe do you really
think anyone wants to see him?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Maybe if we watched the TMZ Hulk Hogan special.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Oh yeah, I saw that. That's a that's another thing
coming off, Like that's it?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Why he slowly? I told you he's slowly gonna be
coming back him?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
It's Alexa Bliss, is it? Paulovac? And then Charlotte Flair's.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Uh I didn't see that was Triple h gonna.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Be on the special, and I thought I saw his name.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Maybe not, I didn't. I didn't notice if he was,
but I saw Vince.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
What are we gonna get from it? Are we gonna
get just clips of the hulkster is from WrestleMania three
Slam and Andre like the biggest nWo Turn, And then
we're gonna get each guy or girl telling us what
Paul Kogan meant to them. That's what the show's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Look, I'm crying already.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Really, I'm not even gonna watch that.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I think everybody wants to hear Vince just say he
was the greatest he you know, I just no mustache, Vince.
The mustache is gone.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Well I don't. I don't even think I want to
watch it. To be honest with you, I don't know.
I might cave, but as of right now, I got
better things.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I would say. That is a Twitter clip.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Watch Are you gonna watch it? No?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I'm going to see whatever comes up on Twitter. If
it comes up as anything worth the damn, I will
go out of my way.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Well, you know what's gonna come up. All the quotes
from the superstars are going to come up, and that's
about it.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I just want to say, Evince, that's really all I'm
interested in.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Well, pull the Vince clip and we can do a
video on it.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
How about that He's the gift that keeps on giving.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, well, Vince has got a lot going on right now.
Like I said, he's in two court cases. He's juggling those.
We don't know what Janelle's thinking this week. Where's Johnny Ace?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
No one knows Johnny Ace was at Hulk Hogan's funeral.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Wow, there you go with Vince.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Vince Johnny were in the same room.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Were they together?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't think so. How crazy
is that?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
That was quite the star studded list.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Man, Do you think WWE will do a doc on
this whole fiesco?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I don't know. They're doing everything else, the unreal story
about the doc, of being unreal, of being at Hulk
Hogan's funeral.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
No, No, about the Vince McMahon scandal.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Oh, oh, you never know.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I mean they tend to do everything. Let's pull the
curtain on that one.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Anything.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I don't even want to see what's behind the curtain
on that one.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
To be honest with you, Behind Vince's Curtain.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah right, I don't know anyway. You got anything going
on that you want to play?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
No, nothing right now, but you know, stay tuned. We
got some big things headed your way. St Bruin Stuffs
to Bruin.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Okay, I have something I'd like to start promoting. Oh,
I'm going to be working with Nick from the Captain's
Corner August twenty third. We're going to be doing a
virtual My good friend Todd Gordon's going to be with me. Ooh,
and more information to follow, but I believe start time
(31:51):
is going to be six pm on that one, So
we're doing the graphics as we speak, and more information
will be on my socials, but save the date August
twenty third, six pm. We're gonna have eight x ten's
gonna be able to kiss those suckers. We're gonna have
some action figures and micro brawlers and all that good stuff.
(32:13):
So again, Todd and I very entertaining duo along with
Nick from Captain's Corner. That's my next next appearance. Virtual
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