November 5, 2024 • 25 mins
In this Eyes Up Here FLASHBACK "The Queen of Extreme" and The Chadster read through a list of some of the Wildest Backstage Stories in wrestling history.
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
All right, the eyes up here Extra Tuesday looking at
some of the wildest backstage stories that have ever been
recorded or discussed. Uh, some are disgusting. So we're going
to talk about some that I found on this list
in part one, and then we will talk about you
in part two.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh oh, okay, I hope a lot of these I
have not heard because I loved I loved the shock
that you have my facials hear some of these stories,
and you know, I'm sure I heard some of them
because some of them might be urban legends.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Now we don't know if any of these are true
or not.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know, a lot of things in the world of
professional wrestling are lies, and you really can't believe everything
you hear. But let's see how creative some people can get.
And you know, and then at the end of each story,
let's let's give our opinion and see if we think
it's it's true or false?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Absolutely, Okay, okay, you know if I heard of it,
all right, sounds good to me. The first one is
women paid for a night with the Junkyard Dog. Okay, Okay,
here we go. Considering he was one of the most
popular and well known wrestlers in his heyday, the Junkyard
Dog would have women pay him for sex instead of
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him paying them for sex. If you he ran into
a woman interested in spending the night, he would charge
up to one hundred dollars. If the woman didn't have
the money, he would allow them to find other ways
to pay him, such as give him drugs or booze.
Considering that the JYD was never caught in a bad scandal,
had good nights, and got one hundred dollars out of
each of them, it sounds like his scheme worked for him. Surprisingly.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So okay, I have to ask, are these fans that
like after a show they're just like hey, because okay,
we know the term rat.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I hate it, but it's out there.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Most of the boys would just sleep with them for
free because they were willing. Jyd charged these women one
hundred dollars, and I bet you, being a man, they
probably had to service him the whole time.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I've heard this story be told by Tony Atlas.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Okay, so it's true.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
This is allegedly true. According to Atlas, they were and
the story goes that they were looking to score some
drugs in the uh, you know, in the eighties. He
was rooming with Jyd, and Tony said, let's go, you know,
buy stuff, and Jyd said, I got a better idea.
He goes, I got some people in the town I
can call. They're gonna pay us to have sex and
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then we're gonna go buy drugs with their.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Money made one hundred dollars too.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
They were paid to have sex with whoever it was,
and then they used the money to buy drugs.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I've never heard this story before, and I've never heard
of the boys charging fans.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So he was like a reverse rat. He rated him.
He was a rat for the rats.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
He was like a prostitute.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
He was kind of a prostitute or a male prostitute.
I guess a jigglow of sorts.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Crap. Why wouldn't you just say I need drugs, give
me drugs. Well, maybe because the girls didn't have access
to drugs.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Right, I don't know. Maybe maybe they didn't call him
the dog for you know nothing. Maybe.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Wow. I am I'm not impressed because they're gross, but
I'm I'm intrigued.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Like, how many women I wanted to sleep with Tony
Alas and.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The well, I wonder if they slept with him and
then Tony Atlas is like, I got something else I
want you to do the feating maybe.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh yeah, wow, what a party those two are having
back in the day.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Interesting, yeah, right, very interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I wonder if they got this uh information from like
a shoot video or something.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I know that's where I heard it. I heard Tony
Atlas tell that. I just I just saw Shane did
an interview with Tony Atlas for Moose's Little fed That's
this was not brought up.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Maybe Shane didn't know to ask him. We ever get
him on the show. I'm going to ask him.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh my gosh, So that's when you you never heard
that one before?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Never heard that one? Not that old school though, so I.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know, see, I love that era. I love that I.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Wasn't a Tan back then. I wasn't a fan at
all in the eighties. I was a kid, so I
didn't care.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Have you ever heard the name Terry Garvin? Yes, Terry
Garvin was a homosexual executive for the WWF during the eighties.
It was very well known he was gay. And this
is pre everybody knowing about Pat Patterson. But you know,
if you're on the inside, everybody knew about Pat Patterson
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knew his orientation and also is his partner. Louis was
very well known amongst the boys because he was always around.
I think he was air dresser in New York. But
Terry Garvin is the subject of this next story. Okay,
wildest backstage stories, here we go, laughing already, all right,
(05:57):
Terry Garvin had a huge crush on Jerry the King Lawler. Okay,
Jim Cornett told this story on his podcast back in
the eighties. When Lawler found out that Garvin had a
crush on him, he was going to pull a rib
on Terry Garvin by making him think that the King
would let him give him a blowjob. What a rib? Huh. So,
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in a hotel room with Jerry Jarrett present, Jerry Lawler
pulled his tights around his ankles just as Garvin, who
was also in the room, was ready to do the deed.
He pushed Garvin away and ran out the door. Garvin
chased him down, chased after him down the hotel, lobbying
into the streets, all the while Jerry Lawler had his
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tights around his ankles.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well, first of all, I'm impressed that Jerry could run
with his tights around his ankles because I would have
face planned it if it was me. Kind of a
cruel rib.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Kind of a cruel rib. You can't get away with
that rib today.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, I I don't know. Yeah, I feel bad. You're
in love with someone and you think you're gonna you're
gonna get the goods and then they just break your heart,
you know, kind of mean.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Means it's definitely why was Jerry Jarrett needing to be
there's a witness that. That's the weird stuff about back then,
right back in the Larwyors, they just like it was
nothing apparently to be in a room while you're your
boys getting some and doing this and doing that, and
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like to pull a rib on on a gay guy
by pretending that he's going to give you a BJ Like,
how is that a rib? I think funny about that?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I think, well, it's funny because it's not funny, but
it's funny to them because it wasn't going to happen,
That's what's funny. But I think Jerry was in there
just I mean, yeah, Jerry Jarrett was in there just
to like, so Lawler had some backup in case what
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if Terry went crazy and started beating them up or
something like that. He had somebody else in there with him.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You know, Jerry, Jared's such a nice Southern man. He's
not going to beat anybody up, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I just I feel like that was cruel. You know,
he got catfished before catfishing was a thing. Yeah, mean,
Jerry Lawler, You're mean.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I don't know if it's true. Do you think that's true.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I I don't think that's true.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't think that's true.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
No, I don't think it's true.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I kind of think it's true.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I think it might be, like there might be elements
of it that's true.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
But you know, I kind of think it's true.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I like one of those stories that they say backstage,
like you know, and they all have a laugh. It
didn't really happen. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Back then they're so crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Who knows they are? That's all I have to say.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Is poor.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Poor Terry go. Yeah, I mean, who had to. He's
one of the guys that had stepped down during the
ring Boy scandal back in the day. Because during the
ring Boy scandal there was other allegations of sexual misconduct
among the executives where it wasn't him with a little boy.
Was that Terry Garvin would be soliciting the boys for
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favors on the road, like, hey, you're driving, let me
take care of business for you while you're you know why, again,
I don't know why. This is when I go why
do I love this crap? Why do I love this business?
It was what's going on in here that I like
this that much?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I can I can understand if Terry said, hey,
I can try to get you on television if you
let me service you in the car, but just for nothing,
like a heterosexual wrestler. Hey I'll service you.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Now while you're driving. No, thank come, oh getting.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Anything out of it?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But the blue job? No?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Well mind, yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Thank you. You know what, what's the point of that?
I've heard for a push? Yeah, I've heard of that,
But not just for shits and giggles. No.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
They also they had the Cream Team apparently, what back
in the eighties. Yeah, the Cream Team. Well, if I
have to explain the Cream Team to you, then you
got your own problems.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
No.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
But what I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Was those guys that were promised to push if they
were to go to bed with whomever. So they called
it the Cream Team.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So who is it not.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Terry Garvin, pat Patterson and some other folks.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Oh so the exacts were the cream I thought you
meant the boys they labeled.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
They had to get on they they would pass through
the Cream Team.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Oh so are there gentlemen that we know that went
through the Cream Team?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I've all I've ever heard of is the guy guy
who like declined. I mean, there's rumors a guy who
is quite the brawler from Brooklyn has been rumored to, uh,
you know, be a part of that squad.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Uh was a part of the squad?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
All right, Okay, so there's a name out there.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
But like Jim Powers, he was a part of Like
I'm not saying he was, I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It's been said that he was. Jim Powers very publicly
has said like he denied the advances of them and
was either fired or quit. And it's twice Shane has
told the story on air before that one day Jim
Powers just disappeared.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Isn't hard.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
He was waiting for him to go to the gym
in the hotel he was, he never came.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That's terrible, That is that is so shitty.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I that's so bad.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Okay, but maybe the next guy who we're about to
mention had a little bit to do with some of
that stuff being allowed to go on on his watch.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Okay, this mcman, Okay, he had to pop up sooner
or later.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
In a two thousand and one interview with Playboy Magazine,
when asked about how he lost his virginity, mister McMahon
recalled going to a matinee movie when he was in
the first grade. Oh no, stop, let me continue please.
He was with his stepbrother and his stepbrother's girlfriends and
they were quote playing with him okay, as in playing
(12:29):
with his penis and giggling. Okay, McMahon thought the experience
was pretty cool. Later on in his life, McMahon also
claims he had a sexual encounter with a girl who
was his age but was in essence his cousin, and
that cousin wound up marrying Vince McMahon's stepfather. Okay, I'm confused.
(12:53):
He claims the two really wanted to explore each other's
bodies and they just did, although for some reason McMahon
was obsessed with crushing and shoving leaves into her You
who vincient man lived a very interesting life. I guess
he played a prank on her after they had explored
each other's bodies by stuffing leaves into her drink. Miser man.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
What wait a minute, Okay, go back.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
This is a very well known playboy interview. Okay, this
is very well strange.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You're like seven, six or seven years old? Yes, okay,
His stepbrother and the girlfriend, both girlfriends, both all of
them fondled this little boy in a movie theater.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
It says, and they were playing with him. So it
doesn't say if it was the stepbrother and the girlfriends.
It just says they stepbrother and the girlfriends were there
and they quote were playing with him, doesn't say who
and giggling tea.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But that doesn't really clarify him losing his virginity.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
No it doesn't, but I guess that was his earliest
sexual encounter. Scott Hall tells the story on a shooner
of Your Sorry Rupt. He says, when they pitched the
gold Dust Angle to Scott Hall, where gold Dust had,
you know, allegedly had a thing for Scott Hall, Hall
was not comfortable with it, and Vince McMahon said, to
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make him comfortable, let him know about his first homosexual experience,
which was in essence hitch hiking. Somebody tried to force
him to, you know, do the Terry Garvin.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Uh so that's not an experience, that's like he was offered.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
But I guess first encountering, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I can't first of all, Vince with man is So
there's a there's probably like a million and one stories
about this man. I don't know what's true what's false,
But all I know is it's creepy, creepy, and uh
I want no parts of that.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So, yeah, does it explain a little bit about some
of his weird things.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Well, it kind of does, because some of these angles
that are out there, like and you can picture him like.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Watching it in front of the monitor with his hand like.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Oh yeah, it's so freaking creepy, so weird.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Oh I can't.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I don't know that these stories are just too much.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
This is a great one. I remember this now after
I read it, remember reading it originally. But this is
called Mick Foley and Ron Simmons tag team in bed.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Okay, I've heard none of these so far.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Okay, According to Teddy Long Okay, who has revealed in
an interview.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeh.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
He traveled with Ron Simmons and Mick Foley one night
back in the day, most likely in WCW. They ended
up bringing women back to their hotel room for some
midnight rendezvous. Somewhere in the middle of this, while Simmons
and Foley had their women on opposite beds Foley decided
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to hold simmons hand randomly during the act. We're not
sure if they thought he was in the middle of
a tag team match or what, but all Foley did
to explain himself to tell Simmons was I need your support.
And he does tell that story in his book.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So Dirt. So they're they're both having intercourse with women,
but they're holding hands.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
He reached out to hold his hand. That's weird, and
I'm guessing Ron Simmons turned him and said, damn, damn.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, this is weird. That's a weird one.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Nick with a rat kind of gets me a little.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Was he married at the time.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I don't know who goes to admit this. I mean, look,
I know a lot of the boys room together and
they would just simultaneously be having sex someone here or
someone there.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I've never been a part of that. I don't know
what goes on.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Just I you know, if I'm going to be intimate
with someone, I just wanted to be me and the
person that I'm with. I don't want anybody watching. I
don't want to hold hands with somebody else. I don't
want any of that stuff, like call me old fashioned.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
That's weird, that's very old fashioned. It's very I just
called you old fashion, he said.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Very prudish. But Nick, what I don't know are these
conversation starters. If I ever see all these gentlemen, can
I just be like, Hey.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I ever heard a story about you the.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Time that you just held Ron Simothy when you're banging
some girl. Can you tell me more about that?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, this person you couldn't hold the hand of something
that was allegedly brought into the fray. Let's talk about
Perry Saturn and MOPy. Do you remember MOPy?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh? I do remember MOPy.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yes, Perry Saturn was paired with a mop that had
a face on it. After being hitting the head many
times on WWFTV, MOPy became his essential you know girlfriend, Yeah,
corner person, corner thing, and he dumped Terry Runnels on
TV for MOPy. Okay, there you go. Uh So, However,
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he did not like the moppy gimmick. He thought it
was stupid. Okay, But despite his dislike for the gimmick,
that doesn't mean he wasn't against bringing the gimmick into
the bed room. He revealed in an interview with Sean
Oliver and You Shoot that whenever he had sex with
a random girl, he would sometimes bring MOPy in, put
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a condom on the mop and then let's just say,
arouse the women's lower region with the stick part.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You first of all heppatitis all over the ring, and
then you're gonna stick it in some girls vagina. That's discussed.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But they were playing safe. It had a condom, but
then you got the condom Residue wanted to like.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Still still so gross. I just I don't know what
to say. But then again, you know, I've heard of
remotes being put up Broad's, the action figures being put
on Broad's, uh you name it. They if there's a hole,
something's going up. What makes a mop different? You know?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I don't that's a damn good point.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
That's just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
All right, I'll get let's get one more good one
in here. Let me see there's a few. Uh, all right,
I'll give you the choice. I'm gonna read you the title.
You tell me which one you want to hear. We
have Daniel Brian's Little Fella. We have Michael elgin Pas,
we have one just just called Sean Michaels no uh,
(20:24):
Dean Ambrose and a bear costume.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Well, I can't picture uh Brian Danielson uh.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Doing much, so let me hear him, all right. Daniel
costume is intriguing as.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well, Daniel Brian's little fella. Okay uh. In his post
retirement life from in ring competition, WrestleMania headliner Daniel Brian
has somewhat settled down with his pro wrestling wife, now
retired Bribella.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Oh it's a wife.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh, let's continue. Most recently to it their first child,
so this is a few years old. The road to
consummation was not an easy one for these two love birds,
at least compared to when they first started dating. As
Brian detailed in his book My Improbable Journey to the
Main Event in WrestleMania, Brian took Bri out to dinner
while they were on the road, and afterward went to
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his hotel room to have sex for the first time. Okay,
while they were naked and just about to do the deed,
fellow pro wrestlers Seamus and Teddy Hart barged into the
room drunk and ruined the moment, especially for Seamus, who,
at the sight of Brian's nearly engaged in intercourse body,
couldn't help but affectionately off uh, affectionately say off off
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fella Brie and Brian would just wind up going to
sleep that night the end, so there was nothing about
his little fella. Wow, what a what a swerve, Seamus says,
Fella boo. Dean Ambrose and a bear costume, Yeah, that
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sounds fun. Dean Ambrose well known WW superstar, former WW champion.
Long before any of the fame, he was John Moxley
on the indie scene as the hardcore barbed wire batswinging
John Moxley. Ambrose was primarily working in the ECW light
promotion czww H during this time. The owner of CZW,
DJ Hyde, explained in an RF video interview that Ambrose
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was a notorious alcoholic and partier. One night, he arrived
at a fellow indie star's house and found a drunken
Ambrose passed out in a bear costume with whiskers drawn
on his face. He briefly woke up to cut an
ungodly and awesome promo for a camquarder, but passed out again.
Hyde left with the cam quarder on the table, and
when he returned he found the camquorder with footage of
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Ambrose having sex with an unnamed female wrestler. Coincidentally, Ambrose
appeared on ww programming in the same bear costume he
wore that night. The picture of him wearing the bear.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Costs all right. Well, I hope they destroyed the video
because that poor unnamed wrestler get a lot of trouble
down the line.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
How about him seeing the camcorder and thinking on his
feet and being like, hm, promo, I'm gonna I also
did not read Jake Roberts pukes on a girl, because
I mean, like, come on, ol gee, I wonder why
Jake puked on a girl that one? Sure, Uh, we've
covered this one before. When I'm not going to read.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It on the air, why don't we do a part two.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
We're going to do part two, yes, but I'm saying
there's the other one that I did not read. I
think we've mentioned before in the air, but I'm not
going to bring it up now. I know that's the case.
I don't want to. I don't want to ruffle feathers.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Okay, well I don't know whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah, that's fine, all right, tell me off far.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yes I will. So we will get out of here
for today and for the Queen of Extreme Chad Sir,
We're on our way to part two. We'll catch you
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All right, the eyes up here Extra Tuesday looking at
some of the wildest backstage stories that have ever been
recorded or discussed. Uh, some are disgusting. So we're going
to talk about some that I found on this list
in part one, and then we will talk about you
in part two.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh oh, okay, I hope a lot of these I
have not heard because I loved I loved the shock
that you have my facials hear some of these stories,
and you know, I'm sure I heard some of them
because some of them might be urban legends.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Now we don't know if any of these are true
or not.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know, a lot of things in the world of
professional wrestling are lies, and you really can't believe everything
you hear. But let's see how creative some people can get.
And you know, and then at the end of each story,
let's let's give our opinion and see if we think
it's it's true or false?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Absolutely, Okay, okay, you know if I heard of it,
all right, sounds good to me. The first one is
women paid for a night with the Junkyard Dog. Okay, Okay,
here we go. Considering he was one of the most
popular and well known wrestlers in his heyday, the Junkyard
Dog would have women pay him for sex instead of
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him paying them for sex. If you he ran into
a woman interested in spending the night, he would charge
up to one hundred dollars. If the woman didn't have
the money, he would allow them to find other ways
to pay him, such as give him drugs or booze.
Considering that the JYD was never caught in a bad scandal,
had good nights, and got one hundred dollars out of
each of them, it sounds like his scheme worked for him. Surprisingly.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So okay, I have to ask, are these fans that
like after a show they're just like hey, because okay,
we know the term rat.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I hate it, but it's out there.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Most of the boys would just sleep with them for
free because they were willing. Jyd charged these women one
hundred dollars, and I bet you, being a man, they
probably had to service him the whole time.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I've heard this story be told by Tony Atlas.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Okay, so it's true.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
This is allegedly true. According to Atlas, they were and
the story goes that they were looking to score some
drugs in the uh, you know, in the eighties. He
was rooming with Jyd, and Tony said, let's go, you know,
buy stuff, and Jyd said, I got a better idea.
He goes, I got some people in the town I
can call. They're gonna pay us to have sex and
(03:21):
then we're gonna go buy drugs with their.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Money made one hundred dollars too.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
They were paid to have sex with whoever it was,
and then they used the money to buy drugs.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I've never heard this story before, and I've never heard
of the boys charging fans.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So he was like a reverse rat. He rated him.
He was a rat for the rats.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
He was like a prostitute.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
He was kind of a prostitute or a male prostitute.
I guess a jigglow of sorts.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Crap. Why wouldn't you just say I need drugs, give
me drugs. Well, maybe because the girls didn't have access
to drugs.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Right, I don't know. Maybe maybe they didn't call him
the dog for you know nothing. Maybe.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Wow. I am I'm not impressed because they're gross, but
I'm I'm intrigued.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Like, how many women I wanted to sleep with Tony
Alas and.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The well, I wonder if they slept with him and
then Tony Atlas is like, I got something else I
want you to do the feating maybe.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh yeah, wow, what a party those two are having
back in the day.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Interesting, yeah, right, very interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I wonder if they got this uh information from like
a shoot video or something.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I know that's where I heard it. I heard Tony
Atlas tell that. I just I just saw Shane did
an interview with Tony Atlas for Moose's Little fed That's
this was not brought up.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Maybe Shane didn't know to ask him. We ever get
him on the show. I'm going to ask him.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh my gosh, So that's when you you never heard
that one before?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Never heard that one? Not that old school though, so I.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know, see, I love that era. I love that I.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Wasn't a Tan back then. I wasn't a fan at
all in the eighties. I was a kid, so I
didn't care.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Have you ever heard the name Terry Garvin? Yes, Terry
Garvin was a homosexual executive for the WWF during the eighties.
It was very well known he was gay. And this
is pre everybody knowing about Pat Patterson. But you know,
if you're on the inside, everybody knew about Pat Patterson
(05:36):
knew his orientation and also is his partner. Louis was
very well known amongst the boys because he was always around.
I think he was air dresser in New York. But
Terry Garvin is the subject of this next story. Okay,
wildest backstage stories, here we go, laughing already, all right,
(05:57):
Terry Garvin had a huge crush on Jerry the King Lawler. Okay,
Jim Cornett told this story on his podcast back in
the eighties. When Lawler found out that Garvin had a
crush on him, he was going to pull a rib
on Terry Garvin by making him think that the King
would let him give him a blowjob. What a rib? Huh. So,
(06:21):
in a hotel room with Jerry Jarrett present, Jerry Lawler
pulled his tights around his ankles just as Garvin, who
was also in the room, was ready to do the deed.
He pushed Garvin away and ran out the door. Garvin
chased him down, chased after him down the hotel, lobbying
into the streets, all the while Jerry Lawler had his
(06:42):
tights around his ankles.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well, first of all, I'm impressed that Jerry could run
with his tights around his ankles because I would have
face planned it if it was me. Kind of a
cruel rib.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Kind of a cruel rib. You can't get away with
that rib today.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, I I don't know. Yeah, I feel bad. You're
in love with someone and you think you're gonna you're
gonna get the goods and then they just break your heart,
you know, kind of mean.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Means it's definitely why was Jerry Jarrett needing to be
there's a witness that. That's the weird stuff about back then,
right back in the Larwyors, they just like it was
nothing apparently to be in a room while you're your
boys getting some and doing this and doing that, and
(07:33):
like to pull a rib on on a gay guy
by pretending that he's going to give you a BJ Like,
how is that a rib? I think funny about that?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I think, well, it's funny because it's not funny, but
it's funny to them because it wasn't going to happen,
That's what's funny. But I think Jerry was in there
just I mean, yeah, Jerry Jarrett was in there just
to like, so Lawler had some backup in case what
(08:03):
if Terry went crazy and started beating them up or
something like that. He had somebody else in there with him.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You know, Jerry, Jared's such a nice Southern man. He's
not going to beat anybody up, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I just I feel like that was cruel. You know,
he got catfished before catfishing was a thing. Yeah, mean,
Jerry Lawler, You're mean.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I don't know if it's true. Do you think that's true.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I I don't think that's true.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't think that's true.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
No, I don't think it's true.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I kind of think it's true.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I think it might be, like there might be elements
of it that's true.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
But you know, I kind of think it's true.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I like one of those stories that they say backstage,
like you know, and they all have a laugh. It
didn't really happen. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Back then they're so crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Who knows they are? That's all I have to say.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Is poor.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Poor Terry go. Yeah, I mean, who had to. He's
one of the guys that had stepped down during the
ring Boy scandal back in the day. Because during the
ring Boy scandal there was other allegations of sexual misconduct
among the executives where it wasn't him with a little boy.
Was that Terry Garvin would be soliciting the boys for
(09:20):
favors on the road, like, hey, you're driving, let me
take care of business for you while you're you know why, again,
I don't know why. This is when I go why
do I love this crap? Why do I love this business?
It was what's going on in here that I like
this that much?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I can I can understand if Terry said, hey,
I can try to get you on television if you
let me service you in the car, but just for nothing,
like a heterosexual wrestler. Hey I'll service you.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Now while you're driving. No, thank come, oh getting.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Anything out of it?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But the blue job? No?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Well mind, yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Thank you. You know what, what's the point of that?
I've heard for a push? Yeah, I've heard of that,
But not just for shits and giggles. No.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
They also they had the Cream Team apparently, what back
in the eighties. Yeah, the Cream Team. Well, if I
have to explain the Cream Team to you, then you
got your own problems.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
No.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
But what I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Was those guys that were promised to push if they
were to go to bed with whomever. So they called
it the Cream Team.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So who is it not.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Terry Garvin, pat Patterson and some other folks.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Oh so the exacts were the cream I thought you
meant the boys they labeled.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
They had to get on they they would pass through
the Cream Team.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Oh so are there gentlemen that we know that went
through the Cream Team?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I've all I've ever heard of is the guy guy
who like declined. I mean, there's rumors a guy who
is quite the brawler from Brooklyn has been rumored to, uh,
you know, be a part of that squad.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Uh was a part of the squad?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
All right, Okay, so there's a name out there.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
But like Jim Powers, he was a part of Like
I'm not saying he was, I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It's been said that he was. Jim Powers very publicly
has said like he denied the advances of them and
was either fired or quit. And it's twice Shane has
told the story on air before that one day Jim
Powers just disappeared.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Isn't hard.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
He was waiting for him to go to the gym
in the hotel he was, he never came.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That's terrible, That is that is so shitty.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I that's so bad.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Okay, but maybe the next guy who we're about to
mention had a little bit to do with some of
that stuff being allowed to go on on his watch.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Okay, this mcman, Okay, he had to pop up sooner
or later.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
In a two thousand and one interview with Playboy Magazine,
when asked about how he lost his virginity, mister McMahon
recalled going to a matinee movie when he was in
the first grade. Oh no, stop, let me continue please.
He was with his stepbrother and his stepbrother's girlfriends and
they were quote playing with him okay, as in playing
(12:29):
with his penis and giggling. Okay, McMahon thought the experience
was pretty cool. Later on in his life, McMahon also
claims he had a sexual encounter with a girl who
was his age but was in essence his cousin, and
that cousin wound up marrying Vince McMahon's stepfather. Okay, I'm confused.
(12:53):
He claims the two really wanted to explore each other's
bodies and they just did, although for some reason McMahon
was obsessed with crushing and shoving leaves into her You
who vincient man lived a very interesting life. I guess
he played a prank on her after they had explored
each other's bodies by stuffing leaves into her drink. Miser man.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
What wait a minute, Okay, go back.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
This is a very well known playboy interview. Okay, this
is very well strange.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You're like seven, six or seven years old? Yes, okay,
His stepbrother and the girlfriend, both girlfriends, both all of
them fondled this little boy in a movie theater.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
It says, and they were playing with him. So it
doesn't say if it was the stepbrother and the girlfriends.
It just says they stepbrother and the girlfriends were there
and they quote were playing with him, doesn't say who
and giggling tea.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But that doesn't really clarify him losing his virginity.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
No it doesn't, but I guess that was his earliest
sexual encounter. Scott Hall tells the story on a shooner
of Your Sorry Rupt. He says, when they pitched the
gold Dust Angle to Scott Hall, where gold Dust had,
you know, allegedly had a thing for Scott Hall, Hall
was not comfortable with it, and Vince McMahon said, to
(14:35):
make him comfortable, let him know about his first homosexual experience,
which was in essence hitch hiking. Somebody tried to force
him to, you know, do the Terry Garvin.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Uh so that's not an experience, that's like he was offered.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
But I guess first encountering, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I can't first of all, Vince with man is So
there's a there's probably like a million and one stories
about this man. I don't know what's true what's false,
But all I know is it's creepy, creepy, and uh
I want no parts of that.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So, yeah, does it explain a little bit about some
of his weird things.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Well, it kind of does, because some of these angles
that are out there, like and you can picture him like.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Watching it in front of the monitor with his hand like.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Oh yeah, it's so freaking creepy, so weird.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Oh I can't.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I don't know that these stories are just too much.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
This is a great one. I remember this now after
I read it, remember reading it originally. But this is
called Mick Foley and Ron Simmons tag team in bed.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Okay, I've heard none of these so far.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Okay, According to Teddy Long Okay, who has revealed in
an interview.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeh.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
He traveled with Ron Simmons and Mick Foley one night
back in the day, most likely in WCW. They ended
up bringing women back to their hotel room for some
midnight rendezvous. Somewhere in the middle of this, while Simmons
and Foley had their women on opposite beds Foley decided
(16:40):
to hold simmons hand randomly during the act. We're not
sure if they thought he was in the middle of
a tag team match or what, but all Foley did
to explain himself to tell Simmons was I need your support.
And he does tell that story in his book.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So Dirt. So they're they're both having intercourse with women,
but they're holding hands.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
He reached out to hold his hand. That's weird, and
I'm guessing Ron Simmons turned him and said, damn, damn.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, this is weird. That's a weird one.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Nick with a rat kind of gets me a little.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Was he married at the time.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I don't know who goes to admit this. I mean, look,
I know a lot of the boys room together and
they would just simultaneously be having sex someone here or
someone there.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I've never been a part of that. I don't know
what goes on.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Just I you know, if I'm going to be intimate
with someone, I just wanted to be me and the
person that I'm with. I don't want anybody watching. I
don't want to hold hands with somebody else. I don't
want any of that stuff, like call me old fashioned.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
That's weird, that's very old fashioned. It's very I just
called you old fashion, he said.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Very prudish. But Nick, what I don't know are these
conversation starters. If I ever see all these gentlemen, can
I just be like, Hey.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I ever heard a story about you the.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Time that you just held Ron Simothy when you're banging
some girl. Can you tell me more about that?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, this person you couldn't hold the hand of something
that was allegedly brought into the fray. Let's talk about
Perry Saturn and MOPy. Do you remember MOPy?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh? I do remember MOPy.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yes, Perry Saturn was paired with a mop that had
a face on it. After being hitting the head many
times on WWFTV, MOPy became his essential you know girlfriend, Yeah,
corner person, corner thing, and he dumped Terry Runnels on
TV for MOPy. Okay, there you go. Uh So, However,
(18:50):
he did not like the moppy gimmick. He thought it
was stupid. Okay, But despite his dislike for the gimmick,
that doesn't mean he wasn't against bringing the gimmick into
the bed room. He revealed in an interview with Sean
Oliver and You Shoot that whenever he had sex with
a random girl, he would sometimes bring MOPy in, put
(19:11):
a condom on the mop and then let's just say,
arouse the women's lower region with the stick part.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
You first of all heppatitis all over the ring, and
then you're gonna stick it in some girls vagina. That's discussed.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But they were playing safe. It had a condom, but
then you got the condom Residue wanted to like.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Still still so gross. I just I don't know what
to say. But then again, you know, I've heard of
remotes being put up Broad's, the action figures being put
on Broad's, uh you name it. They if there's a hole,
something's going up. What makes a mop different? You know?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I don't that's a damn good point.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
That's just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
All right, I'll get let's get one more good one
in here. Let me see there's a few. Uh, all right,
I'll give you the choice. I'm gonna read you the title.
You tell me which one you want to hear. We
have Daniel Brian's Little Fella. We have Michael elgin Pas,
we have one just just called Sean Michaels no uh,
(20:24):
Dean Ambrose and a bear costume.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Well, I can't picture uh Brian Danielson uh.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Doing much, so let me hear him, all right. Daniel
costume is intriguing as.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well, Daniel Brian's little fella. Okay uh. In his post
retirement life from in ring competition, WrestleMania headliner Daniel Brian
has somewhat settled down with his pro wrestling wife, now
retired Bribella.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Oh it's a wife.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh, let's continue. Most recently to it their first child,
so this is a few years old. The road to
consummation was not an easy one for these two love birds,
at least compared to when they first started dating. As
Brian detailed in his book My Improbable Journey to the
Main Event in WrestleMania, Brian took Bri out to dinner
while they were on the road, and afterward went to
(21:18):
his hotel room to have sex for the first time. Okay,
while they were naked and just about to do the deed,
fellow pro wrestlers Seamus and Teddy Hart barged into the
room drunk and ruined the moment, especially for Seamus, who,
at the sight of Brian's nearly engaged in intercourse body,
couldn't help but affectionately off uh, affectionately say off off
(21:43):
fella Brie and Brian would just wind up going to
sleep that night the end, so there was nothing about
his little fella. Wow, what a what a swerve, Seamus says,
Fella boo. Dean Ambrose and a bear costume, Yeah, that
(22:03):
sounds fun. Dean Ambrose well known WW superstar, former WW champion.
Long before any of the fame, he was John Moxley
on the indie scene as the hardcore barbed wire batswinging
John Moxley. Ambrose was primarily working in the ECW light
promotion czww H during this time. The owner of CZW,
DJ Hyde, explained in an RF video interview that Ambrose
(22:26):
was a notorious alcoholic and partier. One night, he arrived
at a fellow indie star's house and found a drunken
Ambrose passed out in a bear costume with whiskers drawn
on his face. He briefly woke up to cut an
ungodly and awesome promo for a camquarder, but passed out again.
Hyde left with the cam quarder on the table, and
when he returned he found the camquorder with footage of
(22:49):
Ambrose having sex with an unnamed female wrestler. Coincidentally, Ambrose
appeared on ww programming in the same bear costume he
wore that night. The picture of him wearing the bear.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Costs all right. Well, I hope they destroyed the video
because that poor unnamed wrestler get a lot of trouble
down the line.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
How about him seeing the camcorder and thinking on his
feet and being like, hm, promo, I'm gonna I also
did not read Jake Roberts pukes on a girl, because
I mean, like, come on, ol gee, I wonder why
Jake puked on a girl that one? Sure, Uh, we've
covered this one before. When I'm not going to read.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It on the air, why don't we do a part two.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
We're going to do part two, yes, but I'm saying
there's the other one that I did not read. I
think we've mentioned before in the air, but I'm not
going to bring it up now. I know that's the case.
I don't want to. I don't want to ruffle feathers.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Okay, well I don't know whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah, that's fine, all right, tell me off far.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yes I will. So we will get out of here
for today and for the Queen of Extreme Chad Sir,
We're on our way to part two. We'll catch you
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