March 26, 2024 • 58 mins
This week's Eyes Up Here helps reunite Perry Saturn and Francine after 27 years of not crossing paths or seeing one another since Saturn left ECW in 1997. In this extremely rare podcast appearance for the former ECW tag team champion, we hear a collection of stories of life traveling the globe with fellow Eliminators tag team partner John Kronus as well as why there was a need to jump to WCW and what issue in WWE led to the creation of the beloved character Moppy. Plus, we hear all about Perry's road to recovery, his battle with CTE, and his heroic actions that helped save a woman from being attacked in Atlanta, Georgia.
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hey everyone, this is between Eachtween Francine and you are
listening to Eyes up Here Within on the iHeart Radio
Network or wherever you get your podcasts. As always, I
am going by my co host Chad guys Chad Rockinson's
song he loves.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It, love it, you love our interests.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I'm loving it because I got it in stereo right now.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I got the new headphones and.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
It's loud.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's very loud.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, I love this song time.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hand picked, hand picked me.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I know we're gonna start.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Off pretty high. I just sent the link. Our guest
is ready to go. I am so excited to talk
to him. I saw him this past weekend. I was
at the big event in Long Island, New York, and
I was signing with Tommy Dreamer and Tommy goes, is.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
That so and so?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And I was like, oh my god, it is because
I haven't seen him literally.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Probably since e c W.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Wow. Really I don't think I've.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Ever seen him at any conventions.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
And maybe he can help me out with that one.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, because he left kind of early.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
From Easty Yeah, like as you guys were heating up,
he kind of that's when he left.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I can't remember what year. We can ask him.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But I was so happy to see him, and I
sat with him for a while and uh, just you know,
caught up with him.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
What's he doing? Because I've always.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Heard like different stories, but I never knew what to believe,
and you know, sometimes people exaggerate and all this kind
of stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
But I'm I'm ecstatic to.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Have him and I can't wait to dive in and
talk to him.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
The date where he made his debut for the other
company is insane when I tell you what it was.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, Well, he just texted me ready and I'm like,
you have to click the link.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Like the link, it's so cute. Lets this way.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
He left ECW okay and jumped to another organization and
made his debut there in September of nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So he wasn't with us that long. It felt like
they were.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So that meant he left there twenty seven years ago.
There we go, do you connect it?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Wait a minute, now, there was a bar dead head
enter in it and I never pressed it.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
I didn't realize. I was just now, well, I didn't get.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
To introduce you. Everybody. This is Perry Saturn.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Have one of the greatest tag teams I've ever seen
in my life, the Eliminators, if you've never seen them.
Him and Cronus were unbelievable in the Ring in E.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
C W.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I'm not really sure if they worked anywhere else. Let's
talk about it here he is again.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Yeah, I'm sorry. I won't touch no more buttons until Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
First of all, I just gave you a hell of
an intro. I said you were one of the greatest
tag teams I've ever seen in my life. And that's
the honest of God's truth, even though you beat the
living hell out of me, and it's still love you
so very much.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And we loved you do because you were awesome, never complained.
And I know we've potatoed the kid out of you
because we potatoed everyone though, so.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
You know what it was.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It wasn't ass for sure, for sure, because he's flung
it around.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Some of the boys didn't want to take the finish,
and we used to give it to you all the time.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I think I'm the only girl who ever took it.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
We gave it the Doula once too, once took it. Oh,
she didn't take it. We were supposed to give it
to her something else, say you're you're tougher than all
the boys because they all complained.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You know, I must have took that twenty times.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Oh yeah, and every time they looked like you got
killed every time.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, I think I did.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Well already? You weigh we did? You weigh sixty pounds? Wait?
John was throwing his big bad asked right at you.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I can I just say how happy I was to
see you this past week. I was just telling Chad,
my co host, I don't think i've seen you since ECW.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
No, we haven't. We haven't.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Where can you fill us in? Where have you been?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Because that's the first thing I asked you, Like, where
have you been all these years?
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Why I spent I spent uh until about a decade ago.
I spent my most of my adult life high on something. Yeah. Yeah,
now I'm sober, which sober addict is the most boring
person alive. You don't do anything.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
We had a great conversation this weekend.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
No, I can still have a conversation, but I'm not
going to do anything exciting like I you to do? Well?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
What There's so many things that you could do that
you don't need drugs?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
I know that's half a joke. Come on, aways a
deal with sobriety.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Listen, I say to Perry, how do you feel? And Perry,
what have you always said to me?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Back with my hands?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
With my hands? And I'm going jokes since.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yeah, yeah, I said that for my One of my
good friends when I was a kid used to say that,
and I stole it from him and just kept saying
it always.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You should put that on a shirt. This is your
big comeback. You need to get a PW T store.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Right, I'll end up bringing me too if I put
that on my shirt, because they'll take it the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Oh my god, Perry, how long were you in e
c W Because we just looked something up and it
said you guys left in ninety seven?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Was that right?
Speaker 5 (06:52):
I know, I thought ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I thought it says you did. It says you debut dude,
and it's just Perry.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I think it's just Perry debuted in WCW September eighth seven.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Well, then the best when I debuted in there, because
I was there for a couple of years, I thought
for sure, well.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
You had to debut with us, maybe in late ninety five.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Then, Okay, so a couple of years here because a.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Lot of it. By the time I left about the
boys weren't there anymore, you know, like nine one more,
and you know, it was a whole new group of guys.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Money.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Me and John were fist fighting each other every night
where you couldn't fucking team together anymore. And PAULI won't
break us up.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Paul wouldn't break you up.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Nope, no pizza Paula. Pauli was always great to me.
I have nothing negative to take. And he told me,
he goes Perie, I've spent way too much money getting
you guys over. There's no way I'm breaking you up.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And that's why you see I never.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Heard and I told and I told him, I go, Paulie,
a good chance, I'm gonna go to W. W. Wood Scottie.
Then at that paper you in Florida, And then Paulie felt, uh,
maybe that I disrespect him, know something, because any strange
at me in front of all the boys. I'll give
a fuck go if you want to leave league. And
(08:19):
I said, okay, Paulie, I'll be going. Where was I
I don't know what was right in the building you know,
because I didn't. I I'm very you know, I intense,
and I don't mean nothing by it, and I so maybe,
uh maybe I it came across harder than I wanted
you to, you know, because Paulie obviously got offended because
(08:44):
he is the only time he ever yelled at me
or anything that I was unaway.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Well, I was unaware of the heat between you and John.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
And we're going to show and Pittsburgh. We did whatever
that was before we got into a fighting console. But
over four thousand dollars worth of damage in the room.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Wow, what were you fighting over?
Speaker 5 (09:07):
We were John, we were supposed to. Uh, we're at
the bar and we're going to go back to the hotel.
And John didn't want to go back, and I based's
gonna have to go back, you know, And it was okay,
let me tell these girls good bye. He left and
just left me and we were like pretty far from
the airport. So John got to the hotel before me,
and we knew I was gonna be pissed. As soon
(09:28):
as I get in the room, he jumped on me.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You know, Oh my god, I do you.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Remember the kids from the guys from reading, They were
like a biker guys up means John gone to a fight.
They tried to break us up and we beat them up,
and Paul got mad. He said, you guys can't do that.
We're fighting every day just.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
About so you wait, you and you and John were
gonna fight. You saw these guys, you end up.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Grabbed us to break us up, and when they glad us,
we ended up beating the ship out of them.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And so after you beat them up, did you start
beating each other up again?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Right then, PAULI was over there yelling, you know, forever,
John and I got along like brothers for ever. I mean,
we were together and that forever, and all of a sudden,
he just, uh, his new girlfriend at the time, my wife,
whoever she was, kept telling him that I was fucking
(10:30):
them over and stuff. You know, I'm sorry, do you
have to watch my mouth now? You're fine, Okay, I'll
try not to swear, but uh, you know, but so
uh and he was, you know, I would say we
got to do something, and he would go, nowth Stacey
things I should do this. I don't care what she
thinks she should do, wait in the match or going
(10:54):
to the arena or something. I mean you you talked
to John, so you know how he were He couldn't
get to any show without me or anything. You know.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, I do remember that about him.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
And you know he had he had the deletion real bad.
So if I tell him, you know, take our exit,
uh whatever road, Martin Martin Luther King's Boulevard. If I
don't tell him the exit number, He'll keep driving until
I told him to get off, you know, because because
(11:30):
he had he had that delection real bad. And you
couldn't read.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
This sucks you, Okay, Well I remember you guys just
getting along all the.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Time, or we lived together for millions of years, you know,
and we were we were we were We're in Japan
for a couple of years together. We were in Memphis for
over a year, you know, just everywhere. You know, I're
from the same same neighborhood at.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Home, right right, so that's Boston.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, okay, So so before you even came c W,
you guys were doing territories together.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
We were working, we were working in uh Japan all
the time. Yeah, And uh Taz contacted me one time
and I sent him a tape and about three months later,
Paul he called me at like three in the morning, right,
and said he'd liked it, and so we came in
(12:32):
and then when we got there, we always didn't make
it to the show. We got off the plane and
we started walking to the gate and lo Met was
there to pick us up. Oh yeah, and she goes,
are you guys be an eliminator? And I swear I
almost said no and turned around and walked out. GC
(12:53):
smelled bad, and it was. She was very nice. But
it was more than what I was expecting. I got Youah,
we almost didn't make it. I was saying, no, we're yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Well I'm glad you did make it. Let me ask
you this.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I love you. That was the best place I ever worked,
you know, as far as but everybody got along so good.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
We did right.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It was like a family. We still say that to
this day. And that's why I was you because I
hadn't seen you in so long.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Yeah, maybe everywhere everywhere else I've been this real clique.
We had a little clique thing, but it wasn't a
major deal. You know, the pot had to all hung
out together because they did the pot and the guys
doing the stonemas were together. You know, that's your talent.
But the other place, your w W W c W
(13:48):
and w W is real clicking, you know, And so
there'll be a group of guys who love you and
then there'll be a group of guys who hate you.
You gotta deal with both that ship all the time.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, because we I've said it so many times. I
was never in the drug click. I was never in
the like the drinking click and stuff. But I was
friends with everyone because everybody got along with each other,
you know.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Yeah, yeah, See, I worked in the office in Long
Island and I was a drug addict, so I was
kind of in between the two clicks. You know. Well
I would have to go to Pauli's house during the
week with the editing of the videos and chid and
then I'm the week will not do y'all fucked up
and could only walk you know.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Oh geez, Well you never knew it in the ring.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
No, I never said. I never was before the math,
only after right before Did.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
You use total elimination before you got to e c W.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, that to me, that is one
of the best finishing news I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
And I'm not just saying that because you're in front
of me. I've said it for.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I was going down to the performing tenor in Orlando
a few times. I tried to teach a bunch of
the kids down and other do it, and none of
them could do it. I don't know, it's like it's
it's really me have done both at black belt. We've
been thrown kicks our whole fucking life. So it DJ Granton.
I guess it's more difficult than what I realized because
nobody ripped it off.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Oh it's it's it's a thing of beauty.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I mean it was scary to take, I'm not gonna lie,
but the execution, sure, it was a great, great finisher,
and I'm proud to say I was the only girl
who ever took it.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
So you know, thank you.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Top as Hell too took a top as Hell didn't
didn't complain about it or anything, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
But let's not forget that you're missing something because of
her as well.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
She snipped something off of you, your hair.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Your hair, you know what we did. That That was
my idea, okay, was because I was going I just
got my haircut and I was going bald, and I
told Balie, I'm not going to have a ball. We're
gonna I want to chake my head and he goes, no, no,
let's do something on TV with it, and I said, okay, soon,
and then we did it with you guys. Was in
(16:12):
a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, And I always thought you were mad at me
because I cut your hair.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I said, it wasn't my idea.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
It was my idea. And because I got went to
get my haircut and I could see ball, but my
hair was stinning and I wasn't going to have the
horseshoe haircut. I just couldn't do that. I love it.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Can I ask you a question? If you don't want
to tell the story, you don't have to. But I've
always heard over the years about how you you interjected
and saved the woman who was being attacked. And I
heard bits and pieces from different people, but I never
heard like the full story, and I think our listeners
(16:57):
would love to hear it from you.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
What do you call it? It's uh, most of it
is pretty accurate. But I was going to do to
a crackhouse to get some drugs and I stumbled down
to this on the way there.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Oh see, I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Okay, yes, because something that would just never brought it,
you know, so like, uh, yeah, I just stumbled at
it and you know, there's nothing and I got you
in the guy guy shot me in the neck and
in the shoulder.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
So what you're walking to the you're walking to.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Get There's two guys on top of the girl and
I run up and shove them off and grab on
the one and the one I didn't grab as I
turned to see what he was doing, he shot me.
Oh my god, and h I ran in the shock
because uh, I wasn't get in the ambulance. I was
arguing with the cops and stuff because and I kept
(17:55):
telling him no, I just punched me. I'm fine, I
just got punched. But obviously I was in shock, which
is probably a good thing because I don't will know
nothing about it. Wow, it was hottest, fucked That's the
only thing I remember. It felt like my neck was
on fire and my shoulder and they had to replace
that whole bone and everything, you know, because it split
my shoulder. My neck was my neck is uh what?
(18:21):
They removed my C four and five and uh for
me from the information could the final cord goes? In
the shock, I couldn't move my left arm for like
six weeks, and they didn't know if I was going
to be able to move it.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
So did this happen in the in the house that you.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Were eating outside? Right outside in a shitty neighborhood in
the Lando. I was out. I was headed up to
the house to get to net is what I was doing, Okay,
And you saw this and I just stumbled in on
it day just and I don't know, and i'd never
in the Georgia. I don't know if it's the same
(19:00):
every state, but the victim's identity is very heavily protected.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Okay, So I've never been talked to the woman, and
so do you know.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
If they ever, Like, no one touched her after you
got shot? Right, like.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
The guy who shot me, I stabbed him. He went
to the hospital and then the other guy ran because
the cops. Somebody have called the cops already.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Oh my god. Well, you're a hero.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Not really. I was looking to get high and just
stumbled in on it.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
When you interjected and saved somebody. Yes, that army ranger right.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
There, you saved that girl, Perry. You're a hero.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I don't care why you were there, you were you
were there I believe in God. I think God put
you there that night for a reason, you know, And
and it's an unfortunate that you ended up getting shot, but.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You saved her, So you have to look at yourself
as a he You're a hero in my eyes.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Well, I just do what I have to do.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, very admirable. So, my god, I've heard little pieces, but.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Now I never heard. Yeah, the cops came and we
were I stabbed the guy, and I, like I said,
I didn't know where he shot me. I had not
like I was, and they had. They ended up beating
us both with knight sticks and everything, trying to get
us because we were fighting.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Oh my, oh you're you're still fighting? You got shot?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Yeah, Like my eyes watered. My eyes watered, and I
thought he punched me, and I thought, holy fun, that
was a pretty hard punch. And then because that's because
I just turned and he was there, you know, I
didn't see anything, and it was yeah, which is a
good thing, because I'm sure I would have panic dinner
(20:56):
and I never pannered.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Oh my god. Yeah, I'm ever heard. I've never heard
half of this stuff.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
So the ambulance, I wasn't getting the ambulance because in
my mind, I got punched and I'm not going to
the hospital getting punched. I'm arguing with them, and once
I figured out that I wasn't the attacker.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You know, it wasn't there any blood coming out. I mean,
you didn't see any blood or anything.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Well too bullos, so there's blood coming out, but I
was in shock, so I just didn't like. I vaguely
remember fitting pieces of it right, and it's just been
registered in my mind. You know, I remember thinking over
and over again that I got punched.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
You are one tough. Let me just say, oh my god, amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well I I and forgive me for bringing it up,
but I always wanted to hear it from you because
people have said certain things and I was like, that
doesn't seem right, you know, So I just and the.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Capital of the story is the guy went to ail
while while he was in jail waiting to go to trial,
he got stabbed and killed.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Oh well, there you go.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
But uh so there was no there was no finality
to the case, so I never got compensated.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Oh yeah, well.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
They would have paid me my wrestling salary for the
rest of my life probably.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Well, thank god, you're still with us.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, so why why are you back on the scene.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
My friend I and you know, helping him do that.
And and I'm I was so bad on drugs and
and I kind of just lost myself, right and uh
with probably uh, very embarrassed of the person that I became.
So I didn't want to see anybody, right, Okay. And
(22:56):
then as time, you know, like Jerichole would get on me,
you know, to do something, or Raven and I and
UH and Sonny and older would call me every week,
you know, just about And then finally my friend and
started doing the game, so I would help him, and
that's how I started going places with him. And then
once I started going to them that I just started
doing other things, right.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
And how did you feel being around the boys again?
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Oh, it's great, It's great.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
I'm telling you, like.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Some of the guys I just spent such a large
portion of my life with, you know, right, and like, uh,
and we're in Vegas in August and Disco's there, and
so I've seen him. I haven't seen him in twenty
some years. He was one of my favorite people alive.
I love Disco. It was fucking awesome seeing him. Yeah,
(23:54):
also in the.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, Tommy sitting next to me, and he goes, is
that Harry Saturn?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
And we were both like what?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And then you come walking over and I'm telling you,
I got so happy.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
It made me so happy to see you.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Yeah. I mean, I'm as cool as shit, right because
we don't. We all treat each other the same, no
matter how much time has gone by. I don't have family,
you know, with my wife, you know, but I don't
have like my parents or nothing. I don't never talk
(24:34):
to so everything is my friends and that's it. You also,
that's a big deal to me.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well, I'm so glad that you're you're back with us
in a sense, and I hope you keep doing these
things because the fans were excited to see you, but
more so, we were excited to see you.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Well, I'm asking around. I'm hoping that we're going a
job as an agent at one of these company. Okay,
but I'm sure, I'm sure the first concern will be
going and off of my drugs, you know, but and
I'm not. I've been sober for ten years.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
So that's great. That's great.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
And I know you feel with your hands, but how
do you really feel my body.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
My body's broken.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Your body, well, a lot of the boys are, but otherwise, what.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Do you call it?
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I'm recently getting my shit together pretty good, you know,
because because being away from everything was so long, I
couldn't even really imagine being that person that I used
to be, you know, so I kind of was lost
and I was dealing with that CTE and it took
(25:47):
us a while to get that under control. Okay, so
because that's a that's a pretty shitty thing. Uh every
day I would be sitting somewhere and not know where
I'm at or what I'm doing when you know, and
uh big here in this hospital here, they didn't know
how to deal with it. So they kept just giving
(26:08):
me a ship that wasn't working. And then I went
to see the guy in Boston, the specialist, and he
looked at my prescriptions and he goes, I have no
idea what what to prescribeing? You know why, because you'll
got to stop taking all of that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Oh wow, Yeah, and they just you know, tatoos the
doctor's name, and and now I don't.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Have any problems.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Well, let's change here.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Do you have a funny story that you can tell us?
Like you could be an easy w could be anywhere.
I always asked the boys and make the home. What's
one story that picks down in your mind?
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Me and John with the Memphis when we are working
from all or you know, and uh, I have. It's
so weird. Like the block we lived on, the hookers
used to walk in front of our house and stuff.
One block away was Nancions. It was so weird that
they're that close together. But me and John, you know,
(27:13):
John smoked like an old car. He smoked cigarettes non stop.
So one night it was warm out and we've been
he asked to get a cigarette sold him and I
walked to the convenience store a mile away or something
like that, you know, and uh. On the way back,
some kid comes up to us and asked John for
a cigarette, and John goes, oh yeah, He starts taking
(27:33):
out and the guy. Next thing I know, the guy
pulls out the gun. He goes, and I'll take all
your fucking money too.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
They were standing there and fucking John takes his index
finger and sticks it in the barrel.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Oh Jesus.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Me and the guy are very confused and I and
I noticed that his finger was out of the trigger. Guard,
So I just grabbed it with both my hands as
hard as I could, drifted out of his hand, and uh,
John kicked him around a little bit. He wanted a gun,
and I figured he would go to jail, so I
threw it in the shower, okay, but I couldn't let
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it go. I were walking to the house and I go, John,
what the fuck were you doing? Because I stick my
bringing there like you know, bugs bunny, And I go, John,
you know that doesn't work. But I didn't know if
he knew it didn't work. God, So I go, John,
(28:34):
why didn't you have to be pretty stupid to not
know that? And he goes, brother, will you have to
be pretty stupid to try to rob two guys to
look like us?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Oh my god, you should elimination on him.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I thought that's where he was going.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
No, No, just said because because John wanted to shoot,
you know, he got all worked up and everything, and uh,
he's he's fuckest finger, the big ass finger couldn't go
all the way.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
In the barrel, but he just right there and I'm like,
everything slows down that bone bak.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Oh my god, that's thank god. He didn't pull the
trigger when his finger.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Well, it would never happen to John. He would do
stupid ship my cat all the time and he never
had nothing bad would ever happen to him.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Funny, that's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
That's my favorite. That's my favorite non sexual story.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I knew you couldn't get because it's just that's the
only time anybody's ever pulled a gun on me either,
So it was just crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
That's a good one.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
I never heard.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
God, there's so many stories I've never heard from you.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Yeah, you know, I wasn't going to say anything to John.
We were walking back to our apartment, but I couldn't
do it, you know, I just couldn't let it go.
And I go, John, look what the fuck were you doing?
And he didn't even break and he goes, you know,
I stick my finger in, like what's running?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Did he think a little a flag came out of
the guns on the side.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Yeah, I'm sure he probably was, just like he knew
the gun would shoot him. But he I'm sure you
thought that we could get the gun if he distracted
the guy, you know, because because because he knows, like
he's not that gun where he would really think it
didn't work. But sure, like stun me and mcguy Robins.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Oh my god, he was such a big teddy bear
though like.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
The one of the kindest people I've ever known, loved
the animals. And then for no reason, I was blue
he could become a violent sociopath. We're in some in
somewhere in Kentucky, and uh, I fare a bar and
I thought somebody threw a beer in my thing, and
(31:00):
I will set back, and I walked my face I'll
covered in blood. Some guy walked up to John and said,
milk does a body good? John few defendatory head butter
the guy and shattered his fucking face. Oh my god,
And I go, John, what the happened? Because he's being
a smart ass, all right.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
See, I don't think I've ever been out drinking with
you guys, so I never saw.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
A couple of the boys. We wruffed up two over
the years, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Oh do I know them?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Sam Man I tried to beat the death the first
time we worked with him.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Tell me why he's one of my best I told.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Him, I go, heck, I won't. I won't block your
fucking stick. I won't. I'll feed you so many times
you want to hit me because hit me in the
top of my head, around my back, do not hit
me in the face of my ears. And the first
twing was waiting.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Okay, Yeah, he used to swing like a baseball.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
He was reckless with it, you know. And I'll come
down and started pounding on him, and me and John
had this little law if we're if we're going to
get into a shoe, what we just say Boston to
the other guy, so they knew it was a shoe.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
So on on top of Samman pounding out him, John
come running over springing in Boston and about Childre. He's
trying to stop Saandman. Yeah, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, I'm traveling to Boston tomorrow with Sandman. Actually we
have a signing.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I will, I will. When's your next appearance?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Russell?
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, okay, will you be there all three days?
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Four days? I'm there, You're there for day Yeah, I'm
there four days. I don't know. Ian must have me
doing something. I'm doing something every day, So, okay, are.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
You working for the other show too, for Rob or
you just wrestle.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
I don't know. I'm I'm doing I'm doing some E
c W dinner thing. I'm doing. Ian set it all
up my friend and you know, and he sent me
the itinerary and I just I, you know, all procrastinated,
never even looked at it yet when I'm leaving. But yeah,
(33:30):
so I'm doing a few things, like a couple, a
couple of different whatever they are, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Okay, Well, where where you are trying to all get together,
maybe that's Saturday, if you're.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Free, there's a showing. There's a showing the arena one
of them nights too, that I might go. That's just
because I have seen the arena and forever, you know.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah, I'm on that show to come with us.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Yeah, I'm gonna get it for sure, Okay, because I
really I'm very interested in seeing me you know, because
that was our home forever. Right.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Yeah, it doesn't look the same at all.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Well that's why I figured, you know, so I just
to be interested in the tea different. Well, what a
good one. What a rare opportunity that was for all
of us.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
You know, there's no hepatitis on the floor anymore. It's
nice and.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Clean, but you know what I mean, working there, what
none of us could have imagined it getting over the
way it did. It was very lucky. I feel very
lucky that I worked there. Me too.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I always say I'm proud to be an ECW original,
as corny as that might sound, I'm proud to be
from ECW, and people, you know, other people from other
FEDS have always said I wish I got the chance
to work for ECW. So we are a select group
of people, so we should be proud of it because
we changed the business.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
You know. I think.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Some people will say we ruined the business. Well, but
that just depends on which side of the table.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
You're not true, it's true.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
But I was going to say, if you're not doing
anything that Saturday, we're all going to try to get
together for like a dinner, So I'll talk to you Friday.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. You know, if I'm not like,
I won't go to a bar or anything just because
I have to stay sober. No, No, but I'm just
saying so like I won't. I don't have plans for
anything else.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Back in the day, I would be at the bar
all day and night. No, not anymore. You know, I
told I told my grandson I wouldn't do drugs anymore.
So I can't do them.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Well, I'm I'm super proud of you, and we'll touch
face before then and try to get something settled.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
But you are you aligned at all social media? Or
is it just through a no?
Speaker 5 (35:56):
I did Twitter for a while. The march drove me nuts.
I will never get on it again. I don't care.
So just because they are stupid, ship or just and
I live in a real small, little hillbilly town here
in Minnesota. Every day I wake up and take boy.
(36:17):
I wish I was in Boston. So it's a little small.
But they used to in the newspaper have a weekly
article where people would write in and say, where have
they seen me around town?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Jesus?
Speaker 5 (36:31):
So I just I'll just stay away from the knots
all the time.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Waldo Perry.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Uh, you know, it's just it's like I just want
to be left alone, and you know they're not gonna they're.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Not going to anybody listening.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
If there's any promoters or anything, uh look up wrestling
organization online. That's his friend Ian. If you have any
inquiries about Perry Saturn, you could go to the w
o O and you can contact them and they will
get a hold of parody and maybe we can get
you some work that way, or if.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
You talk to Sonny y'all though, because he talked to
me every other day or so. Yeah, the wom things
are pretty good, gimmick. I think it's gonna be you
know this from what I understand about it.
Speaker 8 (37:23):
He said, like I said, you know, you know he's
not gonna fuck you over, not gonna lie here nothing.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
You know. If he makes money, you're gonna make money.
Perfect you. So so it's I vouch for him without question.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Well if then I trust you, So I trust.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
And he's really my like I have a few friends,
at least one of them. Good.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, listen again, I can I can't sing this enough.
I'm so happy that we reconnected. I'm happy that you're
healthy now and that you're doing well, and I'm looking
forward to seeing you in a couple of weeks and
hopefully we can go have dinner and relax and just
shoot the ship and it'll be fun.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. I probably never said anything to you,
but I always greatly respected you. You're always very good
to work with and everything. You're a good person to
be around. So I'm glad we met up too.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Thank you, Perry and and same to you.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I enjoyed working with you, and I just hope I
get to see you more often.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
So happy looks like it looks like we will now And.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, yeah, that's great, Chad. Do you have any questions
while we have them?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I'm just so happy that he's here. I'll ask the
more questions. How about that before he goes? How about that,
I'll ask you I ask more questions.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
All right, let's see.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
You know, I don't think I don't think I ever
interviewed you. I might have met you at at a
convention back in the day.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
That's what could sound familiar to me.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Maybe back in the day. I think we might have
crossed paths. So let's go back. Let's go back to
the eliminators, right, let's go back to the the.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
The e CW Invasion of Raw.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
You guys were the first ECW talent to hit the TV.
What was that like for you guys that day when
you stepped through the locker room of the WWF representing ECW.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Huh uh? It wasn't no big like I knew most
of the boys, you know. It was like it meant
more to the people watching than you did to me.
It was just my job. And it was nice to
see guys. I like World War at Hawk. I was
even with him in Japan a million times, you know,
(39:49):
So it was nice seeing him. But it was like
we didn't do anything with their guys. Paulie had to
hit somebody with the finish Paul We brought the guy.
It was an ECW guy. It wasn't an Evince guy.
So we never really interacted with them or anything, you know.
And uh, P thirteen was there and uh they're loud
(40:11):
and crazy as ship and me and John got along
great with them. We worked with them for like six
months every day and in Memphis, you know, so it
was really great CM men guys.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, did they ever want to bring you in?
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Because you seem like if anywhere you two would have gone,
it would have been to Vince.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
So were they ever looking to bring you in at all?
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Let me when they We've had three tryouts, I think,
and every time it was a new way to fuck
with us. The last tryout we did, uh what to
call it? We show up to me. John and Kawalski
showed up to some show somewhere in uh Maine I
(40:52):
think it was, And they don't less in the locker room.
They tell us it's to prodit and we haven't we
dress in a closet. I've heard, yeah, yeah, and so
but since Krashki rolles there, we stayed and did the match.
And you know, if it was if he wasn't there,
we would have just left and tuck bucket. And then
(41:15):
we started with the Eastern W. Right after that, you know,
we were playing phone tag with Paulie for probably six months,
you know. Wow.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
But even after that, though, but even as you guys
got established as the eliminated.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
I went, I went to w CW.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
But they didn't ever look to bring you two in before,
Like as you guys were heating up as the eliminators,
they never looked to bring you.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Back or they bring you in at all.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
No, not that I know.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
It looks like you guys would have been perfect there.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
What do you call it? John and I were legitimately
fistfighting each other every time we were together. So we
were Tina worked out, the worked out there.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
And then w CW. I mean you were you were off.
I mean that was perfect. That was a good spot,
but I mean, you know we'd.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
Got done upon there was that, but you know, there
was no real organization. The boys did whatever they wanted,
and you can't let us do that right now. You know,
one of the things you would hear every day there
from somebody and I've never heard it anywhere but there.
That really doesn't work for my character because everybody has
(42:27):
creative input, because you know, that would throw you out
of the fucking building if you told him that. You know,
he's the boss, and Paulie was the boss too, as
good as we all go along with Paulie. If he
told you to do something, you have to do it.
It's not like you're stop for a discussion.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
You know who came up with Mapy.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
I beat up that guy, Mike Bell, and and they
used it. He dropped me on my head and I
was out on my feet. And by the time I
realized that I was beating them up, he was already
done and uh so so and Vince yelled at me,
can't do that. I said, fuck. He dropped me on
(43:12):
my head and I was, you know, out on my feet.
He thought it was funny, and that's when we came
over with the storyline and Patter, one of them thought
of the moth fucking thing. But you know what, what
I was a very serious person.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
I remember.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I remember I saw you to do that, and I
was just say, I don't think Verry's too happy with this.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
That fucking thing got over though, was on TV every week.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
You were on TV every week.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
With We're in We're in the Meadowlands for raw and
when when all the march come in the buildings, they
would always chant Rocky Rocky, you know. So one day
were waiting for the law and pat pass and comes
up to me. He used to call mc gimmick. He goes,
do you hear him gimmick? Like I got the chanting Rocky?
(44:04):
So what he goes, listen, Givemick the chanting Moppy MOPy?
Speaker 4 (44:08):
Imkay.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
The next week we Ragan put in the wood chipper.
Speaker 7 (44:14):
Ah, that's all right, because I was hating you.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
I hated you and I didn't like doing the comedy things. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
But see, but that was what was crazy about the
Mappi era and the invasion and the ECW and WCW
is that they.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Pulled Perry out of the alliance.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
That was ECWW because he got so over with Mopi.
They turned him babyface and he left the ECW contingent.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
That's how over MOPy was.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
Yeah, I took things way too seriously because the twenty
some years I wrestled, I never beat anybody. Some guys
put me over, you know, so I took it way
too seriously. You know. I didn't want to do comedy
ship like that, and uh it was a little bit
out of my comfort zone. So but it got over
(45:05):
and uh I always did it the best I could
do it. I wasn't happy about it, but I did
it the best I could do it.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
And you made it work because you're a professional.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Bottom line.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
One time on I'm robbing in Minneapolis and they had
a bron panties match Terry and a couple other girls.
So time to go down in the ring and bron
panties and beat all the girls up.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
Well I wasn't really pleased about there until I got
back to the hotel. There was like six strippers waiting
there for me. They see me at the show.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
We got to put them in the rings.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
We just you know, some me task. I had a
black man. Some guys we just took it too serious.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Well you you are, you're a little more laid back then,
which is good.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Yeah, I'm way right back. Now.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Yeah, that's it's good. And again I'm gonna say it again.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
I'm just happy that you're here, and I'm happy that
I saw you. I'm happy we got to sit down
this weekend and talk a little bit because we got
to sit for about twenty minutes before.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
Yeah, it was awesome seeing you guys dream and I
haven't seen you for so long, you know. It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, So I I appreciate you coming on. I think
a lot of people are going to get a kick
out of your stories. And I'm looking forward to rustle
Kon because hopefully we can get together and have some
dinner and just relax.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
Yeah. Uh, well, Ian wanted me to go there last
year and I told him no because I didn't want
to be around all the march. But then as the
game got successful, I had to go. I couldn't tell
them no, you know. But I'm glad. I'm glad I
agreed to do it because it's going to be all right.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I think it's going to be great, and we're all
gonna be there with you, so it's you know, you
don't have to be alone.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
We're all together.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
No, I'd prefer to be a usually but but but
but they don't bother me, Like I don't get stressed
out that much anymore. Good because I'm sober. I don't
know why, because I used to be stressed out all
the time. So it's easier going now, you know.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah, nope, bumps, You just pick up a pen, sign
your name, and you're good to go.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
Actually, you know what, The marks are a little better
now too, are they? Like I was talking to the game
the last time him and I did one of them things.
I shoved the guy through the table because he was
standing there to take a picture, to grab a fucking
head bock on me. But but I didn't so worried
(47:47):
about doing it. Can I do it or anything?
Speaker 9 (47:49):
Though?
Speaker 5 (47:50):
Just snap? And I grabbed him and slammed him into
the table. That's like everyone let him up. I held
him down by his neck and tell explaining that everybody
around us this is why you don't touch before, you
don't know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what they do to
(48:11):
you all the time, I've got to.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
They do it, but I usually turn my head so
they get my cheek.
Speaker 5 (48:16):
Yeah, and it's never as innocent as they try to
claim it to be either. I don't have to lie
about it ship. You know, I don't answer to anybody.
If a man is to go around a woman, most
of the time he's wondering how he's gonna get laid. Okay,
(48:38):
we are minds that it's very simple track uh and
uh what do you call it? That's just how and
why lie about it?
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Listen, I'm not at these conventions to get laid. I'm
there to get paid.
Speaker 5 (49:00):
Dream.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
Thank you so much for coming on. I'm gonna talk
to you soon. I so happy that he came and
I will see in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
Okay, a couple of weeks for sure.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
So happy you were here.
Speaker 5 (49:16):
Yeah, thank you, guys, take care of ilievable.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
That's freaking great. That was Oh my god, that was
everything I thought it would be and more that that
view of I won't even say the year.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I might even say last year too, that was I.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Love him like he this again.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
This sounds like so corny because I say this about
all my a c W guys, right, But I hadn't
seen him in so long, and all of the stories
that I've heard about him were so awful, like like
drugs and all this stuff, and and he said it here.
So I'm not you know, breaking k Faber. But it
(50:01):
was good to see him healthy and walking around and working,
you know what I mean. Like it it was nice
to see a visual because I just kept hearing these
things and it makes me sad because I lost a
lot of friends.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, he was becoming like an urban legend.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Yeah, because he was disappearing. And it'll be like everybody
be like, who where's Perry Saturn?
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Has anybody read from Saturn?
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Or did you'd hear I'm trying to book Perry Saturn
for this this ECW reunion.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Oh well, nobody can find him. Well, where is he?
Speaker 5 (50:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
I heard he was this place. I thought he was
still in Massachusetts. I didn't know he was in Minnesota.
Like nobody knew where this guy was. But that's just
it's just crazy that he's so clear headed and he's
got this like, you know, just optimistic view. And look,
I mean that was you.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Know, it's it's it's I think it's as optimistic as
he can be at this point.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Oh oh yeah, without a thought.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
But like I when I said down with him, you know,
he just leaned over and embraced me out of nowhere
and I was just like, oh, like it just it
was so nice to just see him and no, he
was okay.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Now after hearing all of that stuff, So you know,
it's good.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
And I'm glad and and you know, I'm sure he'll
be around and I'll get to see more of them.
And I keep hitting my camera. I'm so sorry, I'm
gonna move over. But yeah, that that was great. And
he told some crazy stories.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Oh my yeh yeah, I mean, like Jesus Christ. That
was great.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
And the funny because like again I'm trying to think
back and like when we were I'm sure him and
John were with us, like in the travelodge because we
were there at like two am when the show with
air on the weekends, and we would all sit around
and have a beer or a drink or whatever. So
I'm sure I hung out with them there. But when
(51:59):
they would go, I'll swear I was never prevvy to
any of the stuff that happened, so you know, and
I know he said that one happened in Memphis, but
a lot of this stuff when they beat up people,
and I never heard that stuff. So I don't know
where they were or what they were doing, But good lord,
I'm sure, there's fifty more stories and he could probably
(52:21):
write a book.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
And I heard some stories that he told on shoot
interviews from the travel lunch.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
Well they were you know, if it pertained.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Certain something on ahead something.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, stop it.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
That's not my story to tell.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
If you need to hear that one, go look it
up on the shoot interview.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
But now that was fun. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (52:52):
So awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
So uh, anyway, I'm gonna I can't.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
I were filming on a thirdday and tomorrow I leave,
so by the time you hear this, my weekend will
be over. But I will advertise my next event is
wressel Kan weekend. I'm going to be there and I'll
let you do your plugs. But it's on my mind.
April what is in April fourth, fifth, and sixth or fifth,
sixth and seventh?
Speaker 2 (53:19):
I forget it in front of me. I didn't pull
it up because I'm still whirlwinds.
Speaker 4 (53:24):
It's here, I got you.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
It's uh.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
April fifth is Friday.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
So April fifth, sixth, and seventh, I will be at
wrestl Kan all three days and also on that Friday,
I'll be signing from nine to two at wressel Kan.
I'll be signing from four to seven at the block
party for Icons and Battleground, and then Shane and I
will be on the night show. Shane's wrestling and I
(53:53):
will be his manager that evening.
Speaker 4 (53:56):
So Friday is super busy.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Saturday, I think we signed till maybe two or three,
I don't know, and then Sunday two or three, whatever.
But I'll be there the whole weekend, so it should
be a good time. And we are trying to go
to dinner Saturday, a bunch of us, and you know,
hopefully it pans out.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
I'm gonna I'm gonna be dressed up as a waiter.
I'll be dressed up as a waiter getting to your dinner.
I don't know still yet, I'm not sure. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
Well, you better make up your mind.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
I got a lot of you know what, there's so
much softball now going on that weekend.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Yeah, that weekend is a heavy weekend, but I still
want to get there early in the weekend festivities.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
So I don't know. There's there's so much there's Honestly,
it's so overwhelming, the amount of crap that's going on.
I just I can't wait for you.
Speaker 5 (54:50):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
I'm excited for you, but I don't know it was
the window closed it you haven't even talked about it
on here Bendy.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
Oh, I said, doll good.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
This is no doll and it's not even an action figure,
Major Bendy.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Major Bendy's. It's not closed. I thought it was because
I swear that Brian. I saw Brian last week and
I thought he told me a sales ended tomorrow, which
is Friday.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
But I was told they end on the thirty first.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yes, you still have a week to purchase them.
Speaker 4 (55:28):
There's a group.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
You can buy them in a group of five, which
is myself, Shane, Mikey, Whipwreck, Dusty, and Jerry Lynn non
bloody or bloody variants. Or you can buy me as
an individual, which would be great as well. She's even
cute with the blood on her. Let me let me
just say different than.
Speaker 4 (55:49):
What you're used to.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Uh, they're not yeah, like they're not really an action figure.
They are posable.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
So they're Bendy's. So they're like so the the the
what they're made out of?
Speaker 3 (56:01):
Is this like different kind of Yeah, it's I don't
know what they're exact name is, but they're a different
kind of action figure material.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Okay, and you bend them. I mean they do this,
they do this, they do this. Yeah, and it's.
Speaker 4 (56:15):
Very cool and me anyway you want me, baby.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
All your dreams could come true with with the Bendy
action figure from the Major Wrestling Figure podcast.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
Right, So if you're interested, just go to Major Bendy's
dot com and you know, look it up and purchase
your Francine Bendy today.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
Yeah, and get it ready for the signings that are
gonna be coming in the next couple of months because
the box that they put it in is tailor made
for the signature, yeah, and waiting to be displayed the
way they make it is so you can just PLoP
it right on your shelf.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
There you go, and it's perfect. And I would love
to sign them for you. So Major Bendy's dot Com
All right, kiddo, what do you have going on?
Speaker 3 (56:58):
Well, my Williams Shaftner signing is in the books, so
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Hey everyone, this is between Eachtween Francine and you are
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Network or wherever you get your podcasts. As always, I
am going by my co host Chad guys Chad Rockinson's
song he loves.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It, love it, you love our interests.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I'm loving it because I got it in stereo right now.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I got the new headphones and.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
It's loud.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's very loud.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, I love this song time.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hand picked, hand picked me.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I know we're gonna start.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Off pretty high. I just sent the link. Our guest
is ready to go. I am so excited to talk
to him. I saw him this past weekend. I was
at the big event in Long Island, New York, and
I was signing with Tommy Dreamer and Tommy goes, is.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
That so and so?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And I was like, oh my god, it is because
I haven't seen him literally.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Probably since e c W.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Wow. Really I don't think I've.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Ever seen him at any conventions.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
And maybe he can help me out with that one.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, because he left kind of early.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
From Easty Yeah, like as you guys were heating up,
he kind of that's when he left.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I can't remember what year. We can ask him.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But I was so happy to see him, and I
sat with him for a while and uh, just you know,
caught up with him.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
What's he doing? Because I've always.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Heard like different stories, but I never knew what to believe,
and you know, sometimes people exaggerate and all this kind
of stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
But I'm I'm ecstatic to.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Have him and I can't wait to dive in and
talk to him.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
The date where he made his debut for the other
company is insane when I tell you what it was.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, Well, he just texted me ready and I'm like,
you have to click the link.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Like the link, it's so cute. Lets this way.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
He left ECW okay and jumped to another organization and
made his debut there in September of nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So he wasn't with us that long. It felt like
they were.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So that meant he left there twenty seven years ago.
There we go, do you connect it?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Wait a minute, now, there was a bar dead head
enter in it and I never pressed it.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
I didn't realize. I was just now, well, I didn't get.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
To introduce you. Everybody. This is Perry Saturn.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Have one of the greatest tag teams I've ever seen
in my life, the Eliminators, if you've never seen them.
Him and Cronus were unbelievable in the Ring in E.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
C W.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I'm not really sure if they worked anywhere else. Let's
talk about it here he is again.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Yeah, I'm sorry. I won't touch no more buttons until Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
First of all, I just gave you a hell of
an intro. I said you were one of the greatest
tag teams I've ever seen in my life. And that's
the honest of God's truth, even though you beat the
living hell out of me, and it's still love you
so very much.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And we loved you do because you were awesome, never complained.
And I know we've potatoed the kid out of you
because we potatoed everyone though, so.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
You know what it was.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It wasn't ass for sure, for sure, because he's flung
it around.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Some of the boys didn't want to take the finish,
and we used to give it to you all the time.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I think I'm the only girl who ever took it.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
We gave it the Doula once too, once took it. Oh,
she didn't take it. We were supposed to give it
to her something else, say you're you're tougher than all
the boys because they all complained.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You know, I must have took that twenty times.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Oh yeah, and every time they looked like you got
killed every time.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, I think I did.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Well already? You weigh we did? You weigh sixty pounds? Wait?
John was throwing his big bad asked right at you.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I can I just say how happy I was to
see you this past week. I was just telling Chad,
my co host, I don't think i've seen you since ECW.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
No, we haven't. We haven't.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Where can you fill us in? Where have you been?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Because that's the first thing I asked you, Like, where
have you been all these years?
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Why I spent I spent uh until about a decade ago.
I spent my most of my adult life high on something. Yeah. Yeah,
now I'm sober, which sober addict is the most boring
person alive. You don't do anything.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
We had a great conversation this weekend.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
No, I can still have a conversation, but I'm not
going to do anything exciting like I you to do? Well?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
What There's so many things that you could do that
you don't need drugs?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
I know that's half a joke. Come on, aways a
deal with sobriety.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Listen, I say to Perry, how do you feel? And Perry,
what have you always said to me?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Back with my hands?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
With my hands? And I'm going jokes since.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yeah, yeah, I said that for my One of my
good friends when I was a kid used to say that,
and I stole it from him and just kept saying
it always.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You should put that on a shirt. This is your
big comeback. You need to get a PW T store.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Right, I'll end up bringing me too if I put
that on my shirt, because they'll take it the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Oh my god, Perry, how long were you in e
c W Because we just looked something up and it
said you guys left in ninety seven?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Was that right?
Speaker 5 (06:52):
I know, I thought ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I thought it says you did. It says you debut dude,
and it's just Perry.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I think it's just Perry debuted in WCW September eighth seven.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Well, then the best when I debuted in there, because
I was there for a couple of years, I thought
for sure, well.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
You had to debut with us, maybe in late ninety five.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Then, Okay, so a couple of years here because a.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Lot of it. By the time I left about the
boys weren't there anymore, you know, like nine one more,
and you know, it was a whole new group of guys.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Money.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Me and John were fist fighting each other every night
where you couldn't fucking team together anymore. And PAULI won't
break us up.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Paul wouldn't break you up.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Nope, no pizza Paula. Pauli was always great to me.
I have nothing negative to take. And he told me,
he goes Perie, I've spent way too much money getting
you guys over. There's no way I'm breaking you up.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And that's why you see I never.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Heard and I told and I told him, I go, Paulie,
a good chance, I'm gonna go to W. W. Wood Scottie.
Then at that paper you in Florida, And then Paulie felt, uh,
maybe that I disrespect him, know something, because any strange
at me in front of all the boys. I'll give
a fuck go if you want to leave league. And
(08:19):
I said, okay, Paulie, I'll be going. Where was I
I don't know what was right in the building you know,
because I didn't. I I'm very you know, I intense,
and I don't mean nothing by it, and I so maybe,
uh maybe I it came across harder than I wanted
you to, you know, because Paulie obviously got offended because
(08:44):
he is the only time he ever yelled at me
or anything that I was unaway.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Well, I was unaware of the heat between you and John.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
And we're going to show and Pittsburgh. We did whatever
that was before we got into a fighting console. But
over four thousand dollars worth of damage in the room.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Wow, what were you fighting over?
Speaker 5 (09:07):
We were John, we were supposed to. Uh, we're at
the bar and we're going to go back to the hotel.
And John didn't want to go back, and I based's
gonna have to go back, you know, And it was okay,
let me tell these girls good bye. He left and
just left me and we were like pretty far from
the airport. So John got to the hotel before me,
and we knew I was gonna be pissed. As soon
(09:28):
as I get in the room, he jumped on me.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You know, Oh my god, I do you.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Remember the kids from the guys from reading, They were
like a biker guys up means John gone to a fight.
They tried to break us up and we beat them up,
and Paul got mad. He said, you guys can't do that.
We're fighting every day just.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
About so you wait, you and you and John were
gonna fight. You saw these guys, you end up.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Grabbed us to break us up, and when they glad us,
we ended up beating the ship out of them.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And so after you beat them up, did you start
beating each other up again?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Right then, PAULI was over there yelling, you know, forever,
John and I got along like brothers for ever. I mean,
we were together and that forever, and all of a sudden,
he just, uh, his new girlfriend at the time, my wife,
whoever she was, kept telling him that I was fucking
(10:30):
them over and stuff. You know, I'm sorry, do you
have to watch my mouth now? You're fine, Okay, I'll
try not to swear, but uh, you know, but so
uh and he was, you know, I would say we
got to do something, and he would go, nowth Stacey
things I should do this. I don't care what she
thinks she should do, wait in the match or going
(10:54):
to the arena or something. I mean you you talked
to John, so you know how he were He couldn't
get to any show without me or anything. You know.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, I do remember that about him.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
And you know he had he had the deletion real bad.
So if I tell him, you know, take our exit,
uh whatever road, Martin Martin Luther King's Boulevard. If I
don't tell him the exit number, He'll keep driving until
I told him to get off, you know, because because
(11:30):
he had he had that delection real bad. And you
couldn't read.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
This sucks you, Okay, Well I remember you guys just
getting along all the.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Time, or we lived together for millions of years, you know,
and we were we were we were We're in Japan
for a couple of years together. We were in Memphis for
over a year, you know, just everywhere. You know, I're
from the same same neighborhood at.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Home, right right, so that's Boston.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, okay, So so before you even came c W,
you guys were doing territories together.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
We were working, we were working in uh Japan all
the time. Yeah, And uh Taz contacted me one time
and I sent him a tape and about three months later,
Paul he called me at like three in the morning, right,
and said he'd liked it, and so we came in
(12:32):
and then when we got there, we always didn't make
it to the show. We got off the plane and
we started walking to the gate and lo Met was
there to pick us up. Oh yeah, and she goes,
are you guys be an eliminator? And I swear I
almost said no and turned around and walked out. GC
(12:53):
smelled bad, and it was. She was very nice. But
it was more than what I was expecting. I got Youah,
we almost didn't make it. I was saying, no, we're yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Well I'm glad you did make it. Let me ask
you this.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I love you. That was the best place I ever worked,
you know, as far as but everybody got along so good.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
We did right.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It was like a family. We still say that to
this day. And that's why I was you because I
hadn't seen you in so long.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Yeah, maybe everywhere everywhere else I've been this real clique.
We had a little clique thing, but it wasn't a
major deal. You know, the pot had to all hung
out together because they did the pot and the guys
doing the stonemas were together. You know, that's your talent.
But the other place, your w W W c W
(13:48):
and w W is real clicking, you know, And so
there'll be a group of guys who love you and
then there'll be a group of guys who hate you.
You gotta deal with both that ship all the time.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, because we I've said it so many times. I
was never in the drug click. I was never in
the like the drinking click and stuff. But I was
friends with everyone because everybody got along with each other,
you know.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Yeah, yeah, See, I worked in the office in Long
Island and I was a drug addict, so I was
kind of in between the two clicks. You know. Well
I would have to go to Pauli's house during the
week with the editing of the videos and chid and
then I'm the week will not do y'all fucked up
and could only walk you know.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Oh geez, Well you never knew it in the ring.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
No, I never said. I never was before the math,
only after right before Did.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
You use total elimination before you got to e c W.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, that to me, that is one
of the best finishing news I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
And I'm not just saying that because you're in front
of me. I've said it for.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I was going down to the performing tenor in Orlando
a few times. I tried to teach a bunch of
the kids down and other do it, and none of
them could do it. I don't know, it's like it's
it's really me have done both at black belt. We've
been thrown kicks our whole fucking life. So it DJ Granton.
I guess it's more difficult than what I realized because
nobody ripped it off.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Oh it's it's it's a thing of beauty.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I mean it was scary to take, I'm not gonna lie,
but the execution, sure, it was a great, great finisher,
and I'm proud to say I was the only girl
who ever took it.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
So you know, thank you.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Top as Hell too took a top as Hell didn't
didn't complain about it or anything, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
But let's not forget that you're missing something because of
her as well.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
She snipped something off of you, your hair.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Your hair, you know what we did. That That was
my idea, okay, was because I was going I just
got my haircut and I was going bald, and I
told Balie, I'm not going to have a ball. We're
gonna I want to chake my head and he goes, no, no,
let's do something on TV with it, and I said, okay, soon,
and then we did it with you guys. Was in
(16:12):
a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, And I always thought you were mad at me
because I cut your hair.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I said, it wasn't my idea.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
It was my idea. And because I got went to
get my haircut and I could see ball, but my
hair was stinning and I wasn't going to have the
horseshoe haircut. I just couldn't do that. I love it.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Can I ask you a question? If you don't want
to tell the story, you don't have to. But I've
always heard over the years about how you you interjected
and saved the woman who was being attacked. And I
heard bits and pieces from different people, but I never
heard like the full story, and I think our listeners
(16:57):
would love to hear it from you.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
What do you call it? It's uh, most of it
is pretty accurate. But I was going to do to
a crackhouse to get some drugs and I stumbled down
to this on the way there.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Oh see, I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Okay, yes, because something that would just never brought it,
you know, so like, uh, yeah, I just stumbled at
it and you know, there's nothing and I got you
in the guy guy shot me in the neck and
in the shoulder.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
So what you're walking to the you're walking to.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Get There's two guys on top of the girl and
I run up and shove them off and grab on
the one and the one I didn't grab as I
turned to see what he was doing, he shot me.
Oh my god, and h I ran in the shock
because uh, I wasn't get in the ambulance. I was
arguing with the cops and stuff because and I kept
(17:55):
telling him no, I just punched me. I'm fine, I
just got punched. But obviously I was in shock, which
is probably a good thing because I don't will know
nothing about it. Wow, it was hottest, fucked That's the
only thing I remember. It felt like my neck was
on fire and my shoulder and they had to replace
that whole bone and everything, you know, because it split
my shoulder. My neck was my neck is uh what?
(18:21):
They removed my C four and five and uh for
me from the information could the final cord goes? In
the shock, I couldn't move my left arm for like
six weeks, and they didn't know if I was going
to be able to move it.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
So did this happen in the in the house that you.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Were eating outside? Right outside in a shitty neighborhood in
the Lando. I was out. I was headed up to
the house to get to net is what I was doing, Okay,
And you saw this and I just stumbled in on
it day just and I don't know, and i'd never
in the Georgia. I don't know if it's the same
(19:00):
every state, but the victim's identity is very heavily protected.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Okay, So I've never been talked to the woman, and
so do you know.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
If they ever, Like, no one touched her after you
got shot? Right, like.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
The guy who shot me, I stabbed him. He went
to the hospital and then the other guy ran because
the cops. Somebody have called the cops already.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Oh my god. Well, you're a hero.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Not really. I was looking to get high and just
stumbled in on it.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
When you interjected and saved somebody. Yes, that army ranger right.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
There, you saved that girl, Perry. You're a hero.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I don't care why you were there, you were you
were there I believe in God. I think God put
you there that night for a reason, you know, And
and it's an unfortunate that you ended up getting shot, but.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You saved her, So you have to look at yourself
as a he You're a hero in my eyes.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Well, I just do what I have to do.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, very admirable. So, my god, I've heard little pieces, but.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Now I never heard. Yeah, the cops came and we
were I stabbed the guy, and I, like I said,
I didn't know where he shot me. I had not
like I was, and they had. They ended up beating
us both with knight sticks and everything, trying to get
us because we were fighting.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Oh my, oh you're you're still fighting? You got shot?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Yeah, Like my eyes watered. My eyes watered, and I
thought he punched me, and I thought, holy fun, that
was a pretty hard punch. And then because that's because
I just turned and he was there, you know, I
didn't see anything, and it was yeah, which is a
good thing, because I'm sure I would have panic dinner
(20:56):
and I never pannered.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Oh my god. Yeah, I'm ever heard. I've never heard
half of this stuff.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
So the ambulance, I wasn't getting the ambulance because in
my mind, I got punched and I'm not going to
the hospital getting punched. I'm arguing with them, and once
I figured out that I wasn't the attacker.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You know, it wasn't there any blood coming out. I mean,
you didn't see any blood or anything.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Well too bullos, so there's blood coming out, but I
was in shock, so I just didn't like. I vaguely
remember fitting pieces of it right, and it's just been
registered in my mind. You know, I remember thinking over
and over again that I got punched.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
You are one tough. Let me just say, oh my god, amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well I I and forgive me for bringing it up,
but I always wanted to hear it from you because
people have said certain things and I was like, that
doesn't seem right, you know, So I just and the.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Capital of the story is the guy went to ail
while while he was in jail waiting to go to trial,
he got stabbed and killed.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Oh well, there you go.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
But uh so there was no there was no finality
to the case, so I never got compensated.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Oh yeah, well.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
They would have paid me my wrestling salary for the
rest of my life probably.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Well, thank god, you're still with us.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, so why why are you back on the scene.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
My friend I and you know, helping him do that.
And and I'm I was so bad on drugs and
and I kind of just lost myself, right and uh
with probably uh, very embarrassed of the person that I became.
So I didn't want to see anybody, right, Okay. And
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then as time, you know, like Jerichole would get on me,
you know, to do something, or Raven and I and
UH and Sonny and older would call me every week,
you know, just about And then finally my friend and
started doing the game, so I would help him, and
that's how I started going places with him. And then
once I started going to them that I just started
doing other things, right.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
And how did you feel being around the boys again?
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Oh, it's great, It's great.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
I'm telling you, like.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Some of the guys I just spent such a large
portion of my life with, you know, right, and like, uh,
and we're in Vegas in August and Disco's there, and
so I've seen him. I haven't seen him in twenty
some years. He was one of my favorite people alive.
I love Disco. It was fucking awesome seeing him. Yeah,
(23:54):
also in the.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, Tommy sitting next to me, and he goes, is
that Harry Saturn?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
And we were both like what?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And then you come walking over and I'm telling you,
I got so happy.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
It made me so happy to see you.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Yeah. I mean, I'm as cool as shit, right because
we don't. We all treat each other the same, no
matter how much time has gone by. I don't have family,
you know, with my wife, you know, but I don't
have like my parents or nothing. I don't never talk
(24:34):
to so everything is my friends and that's it. You also,
that's a big deal to me.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well, I'm so glad that you're you're back with us
in a sense, and I hope you keep doing these
things because the fans were excited to see you, but
more so, we were excited to see you.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Well, I'm asking around. I'm hoping that we're going a
job as an agent at one of these company. Okay,
but I'm sure, I'm sure the first concern will be
going and off of my drugs, you know, but and
I'm not. I've been sober for ten years.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
So that's great. That's great.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
And I know you feel with your hands, but how
do you really feel my body.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
My body's broken.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Your body, well, a lot of the boys are, but otherwise, what.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Do you call it?
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I'm recently getting my shit together pretty good, you know,
because because being away from everything was so long, I
couldn't even really imagine being that person that I used
to be, you know, so I kind of was lost
and I was dealing with that CTE and it took
(25:47):
us a while to get that under control. Okay, so
because that's a that's a pretty shitty thing. Uh every
day I would be sitting somewhere and not know where
I'm at or what I'm doing when you know, and
uh big here in this hospital here, they didn't know
how to deal with it. So they kept just giving
(26:08):
me a ship that wasn't working. And then I went
to see the guy in Boston, the specialist, and he
looked at my prescriptions and he goes, I have no
idea what what to prescribeing? You know why, because you'll
got to stop taking all of that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Oh wow, Yeah, and they just you know, tatoos the
doctor's name, and and now I don't.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Have any problems.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Well, let's change here.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Do you have a funny story that you can tell us?
Like you could be an easy w could be anywhere.
I always asked the boys and make the home. What's
one story that picks down in your mind?
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Me and John with the Memphis when we are working
from all or you know, and uh, I have. It's
so weird. Like the block we lived on, the hookers
used to walk in front of our house and stuff.
One block away was Nancions. It was so weird that
they're that close together. But me and John, you know,
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John smoked like an old car. He smoked cigarettes non stop.
So one night it was warm out and we've been
he asked to get a cigarette sold him and I
walked to the convenience store a mile away or something
like that, you know, and uh. On the way back,
some kid comes up to us and asked John for
a cigarette, and John goes, oh yeah, He starts taking
(27:33):
out and the guy. Next thing I know, the guy
pulls out the gun. He goes, and I'll take all
your fucking money too.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
They were standing there and fucking John takes his index
finger and sticks it in the barrel.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Oh Jesus.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Me and the guy are very confused and I and
I noticed that his finger was out of the trigger. Guard,
So I just grabbed it with both my hands as
hard as I could, drifted out of his hand, and uh,
John kicked him around a little bit. He wanted a gun,
and I figured he would go to jail, so I
threw it in the shower, okay, but I couldn't let
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it go. I were walking to the house and I go, John,
what the fuck were you doing? Because I stick my
bringing there like you know, bugs bunny, And I go, John,
you know that doesn't work. But I didn't know if
he knew it didn't work. God, So I go, John,
(28:34):
why didn't you have to be pretty stupid to not
know that? And he goes, brother, will you have to
be pretty stupid to try to rob two guys to
look like us?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Oh my god, you should elimination on him.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I thought that's where he was going.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
No, No, just said because because John wanted to shoot,
you know, he got all worked up and everything, and uh,
he's he's fuckest finger, the big ass finger couldn't go
all the way.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
In the barrel, but he just right there and I'm like,
everything slows down that bone bak.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Oh my god, that's thank god. He didn't pull the
trigger when his finger.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Well, it would never happen to John. He would do
stupid ship my cat all the time and he never
had nothing bad would ever happen to him.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Funny, that's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
That's my favorite. That's my favorite non sexual story.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I knew you couldn't get because it's just that's the
only time anybody's ever pulled a gun on me either,
So it was just crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
That's a good one.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
I never heard.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
God, there's so many stories I've never heard from you.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Yeah, you know, I wasn't going to say anything to John.
We were walking back to our apartment, but I couldn't
do it, you know, I just couldn't let it go.
And I go, John, look what the fuck were you doing?
And he didn't even break and he goes, you know,
I stick my finger in, like what's running?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Did he think a little a flag came out of
the guns on the side.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Yeah, I'm sure he probably was, just like he knew
the gun would shoot him. But he I'm sure you
thought that we could get the gun if he distracted
the guy, you know, because because because he knows, like
he's not that gun where he would really think it
didn't work. But sure, like stun me and mcguy Robins.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Oh my god, he was such a big teddy bear
though like.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
The one of the kindest people I've ever known, loved
the animals. And then for no reason, I was blue
he could become a violent sociopath. We're in some in
somewhere in Kentucky, and uh, I fare a bar and
I thought somebody threw a beer in my thing, and
(31:00):
I will set back, and I walked my face I'll
covered in blood. Some guy walked up to John and said,
milk does a body good? John few defendatory head butter
the guy and shattered his fucking face. Oh my god,
And I go, John, what the happened? Because he's being
a smart ass, all right.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
See, I don't think I've ever been out drinking with
you guys, so I never saw.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
A couple of the boys. We wruffed up two over
the years, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Oh do I know them?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Sam Man I tried to beat the death the first
time we worked with him.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Tell me why he's one of my best I told.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Him, I go, heck, I won't. I won't block your
fucking stick. I won't. I'll feed you so many times
you want to hit me because hit me in the
top of my head, around my back, do not hit
me in the face of my ears. And the first
twing was waiting.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Okay, Yeah, he used to swing like a baseball.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
He was reckless with it, you know. And I'll come
down and started pounding on him, and me and John
had this little law if we're if we're going to
get into a shoe, what we just say Boston to
the other guy, so they knew it was a shoe.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
So on on top of Samman pounding out him, John
come running over springing in Boston and about Childre. He's
trying to stop Saandman. Yeah, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, I'm traveling to Boston tomorrow with Sandman. Actually we
have a signing.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I will, I will. When's your next appearance?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Russell?
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, okay, will you be there all three days?
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Four days? I'm there, You're there for day Yeah, I'm
there four days. I don't know. Ian must have me
doing something. I'm doing something every day, So, okay, are.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
You working for the other show too, for Rob or
you just wrestle.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
I don't know. I'm I'm doing I'm doing some E
c W dinner thing. I'm doing. Ian set it all
up my friend and you know, and he sent me
the itinerary and I just I, you know, all procrastinated,
never even looked at it yet when I'm leaving. But yeah,
(33:30):
so I'm doing a few things, like a couple, a
couple of different whatever they are, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Okay, Well, where where you are trying to all get together,
maybe that's Saturday, if you're.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Free, there's a showing. There's a showing the arena one
of them nights too, that I might go. That's just
because I have seen the arena and forever, you know.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah, I'm on that show to come with us.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Yeah, I'm gonna get it for sure, Okay, because I
really I'm very interested in seeing me you know, because
that was our home forever. Right.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Yeah, it doesn't look the same at all.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Well that's why I figured, you know, so I just
to be interested in the tea different. Well, what a
good one. What a rare opportunity that was for all
of us.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
You know, there's no hepatitis on the floor anymore. It's
nice and.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Clean, but you know what I mean, working there, what
none of us could have imagined it getting over the
way it did. It was very lucky. I feel very
lucky that I worked there. Me too.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I always say I'm proud to be an ECW original,
as corny as that might sound, I'm proud to be
from ECW, and people, you know, other people from other
FEDS have always said I wish I got the chance
to work for ECW. So we are a select group
of people, so we should be proud of it because
we changed the business.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
You know. I think.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Some people will say we ruined the business. Well, but
that just depends on which side of the table.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
You're not true, it's true.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
But I was going to say, if you're not doing
anything that Saturday, we're all going to try to get
together for like a dinner, So I'll talk to you Friday.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. You know, if I'm not like,
I won't go to a bar or anything just because
I have to stay sober. No, No, but I'm just
saying so like I won't. I don't have plans for
anything else.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Back in the day, I would be at the bar
all day and night. No, not anymore. You know, I
told I told my grandson I wouldn't do drugs anymore.
So I can't do them.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Well, I'm I'm super proud of you, and we'll touch
face before then and try to get something settled.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
But you are you aligned at all social media? Or
is it just through a no?
Speaker 5 (35:56):
I did Twitter for a while. The march drove me nuts.
I will never get on it again. I don't care.
So just because they are stupid, ship or just and
I live in a real small, little hillbilly town here
in Minnesota. Every day I wake up and take boy.
(36:17):
I wish I was in Boston. So it's a little small.
But they used to in the newspaper have a weekly
article where people would write in and say, where have
they seen me around town?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Jesus?
Speaker 5 (36:31):
So I just I'll just stay away from the knots
all the time.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Waldo Perry.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Uh, you know, it's just it's like I just want
to be left alone, and you know they're not gonna they're.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Not going to anybody listening.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
If there's any promoters or anything, uh look up wrestling
organization online. That's his friend Ian. If you have any
inquiries about Perry Saturn, you could go to the w
o O and you can contact them and they will
get a hold of parody and maybe we can get
you some work that way, or if.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
You talk to Sonny y'all though, because he talked to
me every other day or so. Yeah, the wom things
are pretty good, gimmick. I think it's gonna be you
know this from what I understand about it.
Speaker 8 (37:23):
He said, like I said, you know, you know he's
not gonna fuck you over, not gonna lie here nothing.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
You know. If he makes money, you're gonna make money.
Perfect you. So so it's I vouch for him without question.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Well if then I trust you, So I trust.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
And he's really my like I have a few friends,
at least one of them. Good.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, listen again, I can I can't sing this enough.
I'm so happy that we reconnected. I'm happy that you're
healthy now and that you're doing well, and I'm looking
forward to seeing you in a couple of weeks and
hopefully we can go have dinner and relax and just
shoot the ship and it'll be fun.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. I probably never said anything to you,
but I always greatly respected you. You're always very good
to work with and everything. You're a good person to
be around. So I'm glad we met up too.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Thank you, Perry and and same to you.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I enjoyed working with you, and I just hope I
get to see you more often.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
So happy looks like it looks like we will now And.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, yeah, that's great, Chad. Do you have any questions
while we have them?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I'm just so happy that he's here. I'll ask the
more questions. How about that before he goes? How about that,
I'll ask you I ask more questions.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
All right, let's see.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
You know, I don't think I don't think I ever
interviewed you. I might have met you at at a
convention back in the day.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
That's what could sound familiar to me.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Maybe back in the day. I think we might have
crossed paths. So let's go back. Let's go back to
the eliminators, right, let's go back to the the.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
The e CW Invasion of Raw.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
You guys were the first ECW talent to hit the TV.
What was that like for you guys that day when
you stepped through the locker room of the WWF representing ECW.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Huh uh? It wasn't no big like I knew most
of the boys, you know. It was like it meant
more to the people watching than you did to me.
It was just my job. And it was nice to
see guys. I like World War at Hawk. I was
even with him in Japan a million times, you know,
(39:49):
So it was nice seeing him. But it was like
we didn't do anything with their guys. Paulie had to
hit somebody with the finish Paul We brought the guy.
It was an ECW guy. It wasn't an Evince guy.
So we never really interacted with them or anything, you know.
And uh, P thirteen was there and uh they're loud
(40:11):
and crazy as ship and me and John got along
great with them. We worked with them for like six
months every day and in Memphis, you know, so it
was really great CM men guys.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, did they ever want to bring you in?
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Because you seem like if anywhere you two would have gone,
it would have been to Vince.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
So were they ever looking to bring you in at all?
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Let me when they We've had three tryouts, I think,
and every time it was a new way to fuck
with us. The last tryout we did, uh what to
call it? We show up to me. John and Kawalski
showed up to some show somewhere in uh Maine I
(40:52):
think it was, And they don't less in the locker room.
They tell us it's to prodit and we haven't we
dress in a closet. I've heard, yeah, yeah, and so
but since Krashki rolles there, we stayed and did the match.
And you know, if it was if he wasn't there,
we would have just left and tuck bucket. And then
(41:15):
we started with the Eastern W. Right after that, you know,
we were playing phone tag with Paulie for probably six months,
you know. Wow.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
But even after that, though, but even as you guys
got established as the eliminated.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
I went, I went to w CW.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
But they didn't ever look to bring you two in before,
Like as you guys were heating up as the eliminators,
they never looked to bring you.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Back or they bring you in at all.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
No, not that I know.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
It looks like you guys would have been perfect there.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
What do you call it? John and I were legitimately
fistfighting each other every time we were together. So we
were Tina worked out, the worked out there.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
And then w CW. I mean you were you were off.
I mean that was perfect. That was a good spot,
but I mean, you know we'd.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
Got done upon there was that, but you know, there
was no real organization. The boys did whatever they wanted,
and you can't let us do that right now. You know,
one of the things you would hear every day there
from somebody and I've never heard it anywhere but there.
That really doesn't work for my character because everybody has
(42:27):
creative input, because you know, that would throw you out
of the fucking building if you told him that. You know,
he's the boss, and Paulie was the boss too, as
good as we all go along with Paulie. If he
told you to do something, you have to do it.
It's not like you're stop for a discussion.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
You know who came up with Mapy.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
I beat up that guy, Mike Bell, and and they
used it. He dropped me on my head and I
was out on my feet. And by the time I
realized that I was beating them up, he was already
done and uh so so and Vince yelled at me,
can't do that. I said, fuck. He dropped me on
(43:12):
my head and I was, you know, out on my feet.
He thought it was funny, and that's when we came
over with the storyline and Patter, one of them thought
of the moth fucking thing. But you know what, what
I was a very serious person.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
I remember.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I remember I saw you to do that, and I
was just say, I don't think Verry's too happy with this.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
That fucking thing got over though, was on TV every week.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
You were on TV every week.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
With We're in We're in the Meadowlands for raw and
when when all the march come in the buildings, they
would always chant Rocky Rocky, you know. So one day
were waiting for the law and pat pass and comes
up to me. He used to call mc gimmick. He goes,
do you hear him gimmick? Like I got the chanting Rocky?
(44:04):
So what he goes, listen, Givemick the chanting Moppy MOPy?
Speaker 4 (44:08):
Imkay.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
The next week we Ragan put in the wood chipper.
Speaker 7 (44:14):
Ah, that's all right, because I was hating you.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
I hated you and I didn't like doing the comedy things. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
But see, but that was what was crazy about the
Mappi era and the invasion and the ECW and WCW
is that they.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Pulled Perry out of the alliance.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
That was ECWW because he got so over with Mopi.
They turned him babyface and he left the ECW contingent.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
That's how over MOPy was.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
Yeah, I took things way too seriously because the twenty
some years I wrestled, I never beat anybody. Some guys
put me over, you know, so I took it way
too seriously. You know. I didn't want to do comedy
ship like that, and uh it was a little bit
out of my comfort zone. So but it got over
(45:05):
and uh I always did it the best I could
do it. I wasn't happy about it, but I did
it the best I could do it.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
And you made it work because you're a professional.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Bottom line.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
One time on I'm robbing in Minneapolis and they had
a bron panties match Terry and a couple other girls.
So time to go down in the ring and bron
panties and beat all the girls up.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
Well I wasn't really pleased about there until I got
back to the hotel. There was like six strippers waiting
there for me. They see me at the show.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
We got to put them in the rings.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
We just you know, some me task. I had a
black man. Some guys we just took it too serious.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Well you you are, you're a little more laid back then,
which is good.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Yeah, I'm way right back. Now.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Yeah, that's it's good. And again I'm gonna say it again.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
I'm just happy that you're here, and I'm happy that
I saw you. I'm happy we got to sit down
this weekend and talk a little bit because we got
to sit for about twenty minutes before.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
Yeah, it was awesome seeing you guys dream and I
haven't seen you for so long, you know. It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, So I I appreciate you coming on. I think
a lot of people are going to get a kick
out of your stories. And I'm looking forward to rustle
Kon because hopefully we can get together and have some
dinner and just relax.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
Yeah. Uh, well, Ian wanted me to go there last
year and I told him no because I didn't want
to be around all the march. But then as the
game got successful, I had to go. I couldn't tell
them no, you know. But I'm glad. I'm glad I
agreed to do it because it's going to be all right.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I think it's going to be great, and we're all
gonna be there with you, so it's you know, you
don't have to be alone.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
We're all together.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
No, I'd prefer to be a usually but but but
but they don't bother me, Like I don't get stressed
out that much anymore. Good because I'm sober. I don't
know why, because I used to be stressed out all
the time. So it's easier going now, you know.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah, nope, bumps, You just pick up a pen, sign
your name, and you're good to go.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
Actually, you know what, The marks are a little better
now too, are they? Like I was talking to the game
the last time him and I did one of them things.
I shoved the guy through the table because he was
standing there to take a picture, to grab a fucking
head bock on me. But but I didn't so worried
(47:47):
about doing it. Can I do it or anything?
Speaker 9 (47:49):
Though?
Speaker 5 (47:50):
Just snap? And I grabbed him and slammed him into
the table. That's like everyone let him up. I held
him down by his neck and tell explaining that everybody
around us this is why you don't touch before, you
don't know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what they do to
(48:11):
you all the time, I've got to.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
They do it, but I usually turn my head so
they get my cheek.
Speaker 5 (48:16):
Yeah, and it's never as innocent as they try to
claim it to be either. I don't have to lie
about it ship. You know, I don't answer to anybody.
If a man is to go around a woman, most
of the time he's wondering how he's gonna get laid. Okay,
(48:38):
we are minds that it's very simple track uh and
uh what do you call it? That's just how and
why lie about it?
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Listen, I'm not at these conventions to get laid. I'm
there to get paid.
Speaker 5 (49:00):
Dream.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
Thank you so much for coming on. I'm gonna talk
to you soon. I so happy that he came and
I will see in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
Okay, a couple of weeks for sure.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
So happy you were here.
Speaker 5 (49:16):
Yeah, thank you, guys, take care of ilievable.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
That's freaking great. That was Oh my god, that was
everything I thought it would be and more that that
view of I won't even say the year.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I might even say last year too, that was I.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Love him like he this again.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
This sounds like so corny because I say this about
all my a c W guys, right, But I hadn't
seen him in so long, and all of the stories
that I've heard about him were so awful, like like
drugs and all this stuff, and and he said it here.
So I'm not you know, breaking k Faber. But it
(50:01):
was good to see him healthy and walking around and working,
you know what I mean. Like it it was nice
to see a visual because I just kept hearing these
things and it makes me sad because I lost a
lot of friends.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, he was becoming like an urban legend.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Yeah, because he was disappearing. And it'll be like everybody
be like, who where's Perry Saturn?
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Has anybody read from Saturn?
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Or did you'd hear I'm trying to book Perry Saturn
for this this ECW reunion.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Oh well, nobody can find him. Well, where is he?
Speaker 5 (50:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
I heard he was this place. I thought he was
still in Massachusetts. I didn't know he was in Minnesota.
Like nobody knew where this guy was. But that's just
it's just crazy that he's so clear headed and he's
got this like, you know, just optimistic view. And look,
I mean that was you.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Know, it's it's it's I think it's as optimistic as
he can be at this point.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Oh oh yeah, without a thought.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
But like I when I said down with him, you know,
he just leaned over and embraced me out of nowhere
and I was just like, oh, like it just it
was so nice to just see him and no, he
was okay.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Now after hearing all of that stuff, So you know,
it's good.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
And I'm glad and and you know, I'm sure he'll
be around and I'll get to see more of them.
And I keep hitting my camera. I'm so sorry, I'm
gonna move over. But yeah, that that was great. And
he told some crazy stories.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Oh my yeh yeah, I mean, like Jesus Christ. That
was great.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
And the funny because like again I'm trying to think
back and like when we were I'm sure him and
John were with us, like in the travelodge because we
were there at like two am when the show with
air on the weekends, and we would all sit around
and have a beer or a drink or whatever. So
I'm sure I hung out with them there. But when
(51:59):
they would go, I'll swear I was never prevvy to
any of the stuff that happened, so you know, and
I know he said that one happened in Memphis, but
a lot of this stuff when they beat up people,
and I never heard that stuff. So I don't know
where they were or what they were doing, But good lord,
I'm sure, there's fifty more stories and he could probably
(52:21):
write a book.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
And I heard some stories that he told on shoot
interviews from the travel lunch.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
Well they were you know, if it pertained.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Certain something on ahead something.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, stop it.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
That's not my story to tell.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
If you need to hear that one, go look it
up on the shoot interview.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
But now that was fun. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (52:52):
So awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
So uh, anyway, I'm gonna I can't.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
I were filming on a thirdday and tomorrow I leave,
so by the time you hear this, my weekend will
be over. But I will advertise my next event is
wressel Kan weekend. I'm going to be there and I'll
let you do your plugs. But it's on my mind.
April what is in April fourth, fifth, and sixth or fifth,
sixth and seventh?
Speaker 2 (53:19):
I forget it in front of me. I didn't pull
it up because I'm still whirlwinds.
Speaker 4 (53:24):
It's here, I got you.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
It's uh.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
April fifth is Friday.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
So April fifth, sixth, and seventh, I will be at
wrestl Kan all three days and also on that Friday,
I'll be signing from nine to two at wressel Kan.
I'll be signing from four to seven at the block
party for Icons and Battleground, and then Shane and I
will be on the night show. Shane's wrestling and I
(53:53):
will be his manager that evening.
Speaker 4 (53:56):
So Friday is super busy.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Saturday, I think we signed till maybe two or three,
I don't know, and then Sunday two or three, whatever.
But I'll be there the whole weekend, so it should
be a good time. And we are trying to go
to dinner Saturday, a bunch of us, and you know,
hopefully it pans out.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
I'm gonna I'm gonna be dressed up as a waiter.
I'll be dressed up as a waiter getting to your dinner.
I don't know still yet, I'm not sure. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
Well, you better make up your mind.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
I got a lot of you know what, there's so
much softball now going on that weekend.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Yeah, that weekend is a heavy weekend, but I still
want to get there early in the weekend festivities.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
So I don't know. There's there's so much there's Honestly,
it's so overwhelming, the amount of crap that's going on.
I just I can't wait for you.
Speaker 5 (54:50):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
I'm excited for you, but I don't know it was
the window closed it you haven't even talked about it
on here Bendy.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
Oh, I said, doll good.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
This is no doll and it's not even an action figure,
Major Bendy.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Major Bendy's. It's not closed. I thought it was because
I swear that Brian. I saw Brian last week and
I thought he told me a sales ended tomorrow, which
is Friday.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
But I was told they end on the thirty first.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yes, you still have a week to purchase them.
Speaker 4 (55:28):
There's a group.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
You can buy them in a group of five, which
is myself, Shane, Mikey, Whipwreck, Dusty, and Jerry Lynn non
bloody or bloody variants. Or you can buy me as
an individual, which would be great as well. She's even
cute with the blood on her. Let me let me
just say different than.
Speaker 4 (55:49):
What you're used to.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Uh, they're not yeah, like they're not really an action figure.
They are posable.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
So they're Bendy's. So they're like so the the the
what they're made out of?
Speaker 3 (56:01):
Is this like different kind of Yeah, it's I don't
know what they're exact name is, but they're a different
kind of action figure material.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Okay, and you bend them. I mean they do this,
they do this, they do this. Yeah, and it's.
Speaker 4 (56:15):
Very cool and me anyway you want me, baby.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
All your dreams could come true with with the Bendy
action figure from the Major Wrestling Figure podcast.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
Right, So if you're interested, just go to Major Bendy's
dot com and you know, look it up and purchase
your Francine Bendy today.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
Yeah, and get it ready for the signings that are
gonna be coming in the next couple of months because
the box that they put it in is tailor made
for the signature, yeah, and waiting to be displayed the
way they make it is so you can just PLoP
it right on your shelf.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
There you go, and it's perfect. And I would love
to sign them for you. So Major Bendy's dot Com
All right, kiddo, what do you have going on?
Speaker 3 (56:58):
Well, my Williams Shaftner signing is in the books, so
IV Exclusives is reloading for the next couple of months, okay,
and I just need you to head over to the
Twitter machine, go to at chat E and B and
follow me on there and just stay locked in the
Eyes up here, whether it's here on iHeartRadio or on YouTube,
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and need your subscribing fingers to click, and I need
you to hang out with us every single week.
Speaker 4 (57:29):
There you go across the board.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
On social media, you can find me at ECW Diva
Free Scene and the YouTube channel is continuing to grow.
If you want to go over to ECW Diva Francine
exclamation Point on YouTube, you can check out the hundreds.
Speaker 4 (57:45):
Of videos that we have or become.
Speaker 9 (57:46):
A channel member for only five ninety nine per month.
And again that's ECW Diva Franccene exclamation Point. If you're
not following me on iHeart or subscribe to me on
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