102: My Mentor

This week, JD tries to help a patient stop smoking, while Turk works up the nerve to ask Carla out. In reality, Zach and Donald continue their binge, sing the song that made Leroy famous, and share some never before told stories of what happened at the 2001 upfront Scrubs' party.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I remember being like, that is the most fed
up thing that I've ever heard in my life, where
it's like, we're looking for a Donald Faison type. I'll
go in on the audition and they're like, well, we're
looking for Donald Faison type, but a better version of.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Donald donaldson ish but not full right.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Don't go full phaseon.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
You went full phase on, you Donaldson went too far
in the Phason direction.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Here's some stories that show we made about a bunch
of docs and nurses. Sah I said, here's a story next.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
So YadA, YadA, Welcome back, everybody.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Welcome back to the Rewatch Show with back.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
One two and now, Donald, you pointed out something very wise,
and that is that you know, when you do a pilot,
you shoot the pilot and then you have no idea
if the show's gonna get picked up. And there's often
a lot of time between when you shot the pilot
and then let's say the network says, okay, we're gonna
make it a series, and then you go and you
you go to a thing called the upfronts, which is

(01:16):
when your show is selected. You go to a huge
party in New York City where they announce where the
network is going to announce all of the new shows,
and this is a very thrilling thing for a young actor.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Absolutely, And also when Scrubs got picked up, it was
considered one of the better pilots of that time. And
so when we went to upfronts, I remember all of
the heat that we had behind us at upfronts, Like
even the party for all of the upfront shows was
kind of themed towards us, you know what I mean.

(01:50):
And you know, you get there, you and you and
you meet a bunch of executives for the first time,
and you don't really know who they are, because nobody
really knows executs gives until you're on the network and
somebody tells you, Okay, that's my boss and that's his boss, and.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, that reminds me of a wonderful story about you,
because we were we were so first we go to
the party and it's this amazing party and it's you know,
we were just wide on. We couldn't believe we were here.
I mean, I was waiting tables a few months ago
and and uh, here we are in New York at
this giant party and you have to you take pictures
with a lot of people and you know, you're getting
treated like a celebrity and you're not. No one even

(02:29):
knows who you are really yet, at least especially in
my case. And and then then we go to this
party and there were celebrities at the party. I remember
Kevin Nelan, who I was a huge fan of from
SNL as an example. He was I think literally might
have been one of the first celebrities I ever met,
was Kevin Neelan at this party. And I remember thinking, like,
oh my god, we're hanging out with with celebrities, like

(02:50):
we've made it.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, you know. Sean Hayes was another person who was
a big champion, like he loved the show, and it
was really awesome to have the dude from Will and Grace,
who at this point was really famous on television.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
That show is huge. And do you remember any other
stars that were at that party. I remember. I just
remember because I was such an SNL fan as a kid,
that I was so geeked out that that Kevin Neilan
was there. I think there may have been some other
older SNL faces, but.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
It was it was all the a. It was like
a NBC rich at like any anyone who was on
NBC at that time was at at the party.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Now we proceeded, understandably to get quite intoxicated at this party.
I remember Bill Lauren saying, like, all right, guys, just
so you know, like don't like, you know, there's been
a lot of executives at this party, Like I understand
in New York your livee has just changed. But like,
don't get ship faced too.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
All of us, all of us, all of us shitty.
Sarah Schalk's famous line, you guys ever heard of a Cosmopolitan?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, all right, Sarah. Sarah stumbled up to us sideways
and she's like, have you guys ever heard of a Cosmopolitan?
They're great? And then I remember Cutie for some reason
at this bar, wasn't there like a trapeze, like a trapeze,
but what do you call that thing where you swing
on a trapeze?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
You swing on a traff.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Feels way too dangerous, stupid, a real trapeze, But was there?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
So it was something like that. It was a bar
in the middle, It was like a bar. I think
he was in the middle of the bar.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
It was in the meat paggedstry I think it was
called park or something anyway, and she was.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
On I remember her being on the bar and flipping
over and just showing everybody, you know, what she had
on underneath that dress she wore that day because she
was And I remember her husband at the time being like,
that's it, we're going home.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Time to go home, let's go. My favorite part of
the night is Donald was giving everyone noggies, and well,
all right, let's let's let me tell the story and
then you can clarify. Let me tell this.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Let's start from the beginning, though, Let's.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Start from the very beginning.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Okay, So Scott Sassa was the dude that I thought
was in charge of all of NBC at the time.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I think he was higher up than Jeff Zucker, who
we're going to talk about. Jeff Zucker was the I believe,
the president of NBC who's now actually now the president
of CNN, But at the time, he was a president
of NBC.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
He had just come from whatever, the Today Show at
the time, and then he'd gone on to be the
head of NBC. And I didn't know this.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
So Donald didn't know who he was. You're gonna ruin
my story. Donald didn't know who he was.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I thought he was Scott Sassin's assistant.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
And Donald was going around giving everyone niggies, and I
look over and Donald has Jeff Zucker, the president of
the network, in a full headlock, and he's giving him
a drunken nuggie on his bald head. And I hear
Jeff Zucker, go, please Donald.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
No, that's.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Okay for our entire friendship. Whenever Donald like tells me
a cringey story that makes me want to run away,
I just tell him about please Donald, Jeff Zucker.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
You know, at this point, I'm giving everybody love because
I'm so excited that we're on the network. It's going down,
and I look over and I see Jeff Zucker in
my mind, Scott Sass's assistant standing over by the bar,
you know, by himself, or he might even have been
with somebody. And I'm like, hey, you come over here
iggies to give out, and he's like he's like no, no, no, no, no, no,

(06:24):
no no no. And I point at him again and
I'm like, and I get a little bit more you know,
agro about it, and I'm like, no, you get over
here right now, and he's like no, no, no, no,
no no, And so I march over to him, drunk
as can be.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I've seen you March when Donald marches his arms wing.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
And I walk up to him and I grab him
and I put him in the headlock, and I'm like,
don't you ever tell me no? And I'm grabbing him
and I'm giving Jeff Zucker and nuggie. And I remember
Bill Lawrence like a few days later being like, dude, Donald,
I just have to ask you if this actually happened,
But did you give Jeff Zucker a nuggie? I was like,

(07:04):
I gave so many people nuggies.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I gave so many nigogies. I can't recall who was
the RECEI.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
And he was like, well, apparently you gave the head
of NBC a noogie and he's not really happy about it.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
He wasn't genuinely pissed off, was he.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
No, I don't think he was genuinely pissed off. But
he stayed away from me. Yeah, I remember a really
long time.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I remember he did come to visit the set at
the hospital, and he kind of stayed away from you
because he was afraid.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
He was very very afraid of me.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, that's very funny. Well what else do you?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
So?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Then I remember that night ended where we were in.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I wasn't there. You were this was you and Nielan,
I wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh really, almost everybody ended up back in Bill and
Christa's hotel room and we it's kind of it's sweet
slash embarrassing. We were so geeked out. We were like,
let's watch our pilot. So we were like, it was
like a whole bunch of people and Kevin Neelan, who
I was a fan of, and we just were watching
the show and I don't know, it's a sweet moment.

(08:04):
I remember being like just thinking like I can't believe
this is happening. But then the funny thing is you
have a long time before you start shooting. So we
made the show, it got picked up. My mom freaked
out that I was like that I quit my waiting
tables job. She was like, but what it's so long,
what are you gonna do? And I was like, I, Mom,
I I can live off this pilot money for a

(08:24):
long I was living so frugally with no money that
I was like, I can live off this pilot money
for a long time, So I'm gonna write. And that's
in that time is when I really finally sat down
and put Garden State together, and at my dining room table,
it kind of looked was like, this is a sign
I need to I have this time that the universe
gave me and I don't need to wait tables, and
I'm gonna sit down and like put this script together.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
That's awesome. Yeah, I went away. I think I did
a movie that year. I know I did. I did
something in between. But I remember also calling Danny Rose,
who was Bill's assistant at the time, every day like,
so when do we start, man, Like, you know, he
was like, and we're going to start, probably around June
or July. I was like, dude, come on, like like
it was.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Up to Danny. I love it. You're like, come on, man,
we gotta start.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
We gotta we gotta start soon.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Man.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I had a baby mama at the time, and we
had two kids and one on the way, and it
was like, I remember being like, I got to get
out of here, man, I got to do something.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, Well, you wanted to be working, you wanted to
be like doing it?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Well yeah, And also we had this show that was
picked up, but we weren't going to work from you know,
from May until July or you know, is.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
That what it was? How many I remember? I couldn't
figure out. Was it like four months where we waited
and waited.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
We went back to work, probably in the beginning of July,
like most shows do something like that.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I just remember being at like four months or something.
But anyway, it was so exciting to finally start. And
so this episode that we're going to talk about today
one or two by the way, just this just a
little bit of oddness. They label TV shows in the
hundreds so you can keep track of what's season on.
So a pilot would be one oh one, right, and
then episode twould be one O two, and then when

(10:03):
you start season two it's two oh one two oh two.
Is that way? You know? Anyway, just a little bit
of trivia for you. So this is one O two
we're gonna be talking about, and it's called my mentor.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Okay, so the show starts off, and I remember singing
this song for such a long time.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, but uh it was Rola. It's called good Time
by Leroy. If you guys want to remind yourselves of
the song, and it was I really got it. You
can sing it ahead. I'm sure Lerola.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I got shot down in southern California. I remember being like,
that's a dope song, and that is this is you know.
For me, Scrubs was a brand new experience when it
came to music, because I didn't listen to music like this.
I listened to other types of music, and so this
was one of the first examples of me being of

(10:58):
me hearing this and being like wow, we and also
also seeing it for the first time too, and it
being like a music video. It was like, wow, we're
making music videos and also making a story about how
look in the beginning of the show, the hospital's in
sync because of this song that you're listening to in
your ear. We're on point, everybody is doing their job.

(11:19):
And I also noticed that we cut ahead a little
bit also, so you're no longer it's not the very
next day.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
You're now it's a few days in and I've gotten.
But I just want to say, like I got. I
was watching this, and granted I haven't watched this in
twenty years. Most of these episodes I don't know about you,
but one of the things that's fun about doing this
podcast is with very few exceptions, maybe the musical episode
or or or ones I directed, I directed seven or
eight of them. I think I never I only saw
them once, so I haven't seen this in twenty years,

(11:46):
and it's so cool to look back. And Adam Bernstein
directed this episode. That was the same director who directed
our pilot, and I just remember thinking, like you just
said that, this was so exciting. We were like the
show was opening, like this was stuff I hadn't really
seen before in a show. It just showed the creativity
of Bill and Adam Eernstein and the fact that the
show is opening with this music video of how life

(12:07):
in the hospital when it's grooving is like a well
oiled machine. I just thought it was so clever.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, I took notice of that because I don't, you know,
watching this again, is it all seems a little brand
new to me, And I don't mean to We were
a part of the show and so it was just
an amazing moment for me. I'm gonna sound like, you know,
I'm cocky and arrogant, but you know, watching it, I
was like, Wow, this is a really really genius way
of showing how awesome or how InSync this hospital is.

(12:34):
For that, I was like, I love the show even
more now, you know, now that Now that it's twenty
years later, I'm like, Wow, we really were innovative, and
we really were different for primetime television. You know, regardless
of how many people watched the show at the time,
you know, it really still does hold up.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, I have to say, and you can be that's
not you being arrogant because we weren't the genius people
behind writing it, although we.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, but we were a part of it. I know,
I know, But and you had a really big part
about it, you know, you did. You told the story.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I know, but I'm just saying like this, I think,
you know, as credit to Bill and all the writers,
this was just so original and different and exciting. By
the way, how funny is it that I have a Walkman.
It must be two thousand and one. I guess there
were still cassette walkmans. I would have thought it would
have been a disc but uh, I guess JD had
had a mix on a cassette.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Dude. You know, speaking of Walkman's, well, we we could
talk about it after season one, but I just remember
you walking the streets of New York City with your
yellow Walkman, listening to Michelle Branch.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Very to me when I closed my eyes it to you.
I see that was my jam. I am not a
hum about loving Michelle Branch.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I remember you walking out the house yellow. It was
a yellow walkman, the sony Walkman, the dope Sony Walkman's
that everybody if you had the yellow Sonny Walkman, you
had the dope.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
You know.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Everything else was all right, but that was the one
right And I remember you being like, well, I'm out,
I'm going to a heard. That was when we were
both in New York, living together and you were doing
a journal.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's a whole episode is Donald and I living together
in Manhattan. We rented a loft together. He was doing
a movie and I was doing Shakespeare in the Park
and I would go out and bop my head with
my yellow walkman cranking. You're everywhere to me and I
close my eyes.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
It's you, Eyesy, I'm not alone, dude. I think it's
very much JD that you had a walkman with a
cassette tape in it.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah. I noticed that the first exterior shot is still
not our hospital. They at two minutes in they cut too,
which was an establishing shot from the pilot of me
coming to work for the first day. I think that's
the very that's the same shot, exact same shot that
used in the pilot of me showing up to work
for the first day.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Do you remember going to that hospital and us shooting
a bunch of entrances like me and you walking in,
you walking in by yourself, you and Sarah walking in.
Remember all of that. Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, but yeah, but that was that was for the pilot, right.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
No, that was for the show itself. We did a
bunch of We did a bunch of versions of us
walking into this hospital, and some of it never got used.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
But at a certain point they just stopped using this
exterior because it was not our exterior at all. I
don't know where the where the hell that was.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I noticed that this episode has a lot to do
with relationships, you know what I mean, and how we
all started off kind of on rocky ground. You and
I had the same relationship, and you and the janitor
have the same relationship all the way through, but everyone else,
no matter how it's connected, has a different relationship. In
this episode. At this point, you don't mind being in

(15:37):
the friend zone with Elliott, and as a matter of fact,
he thinks it's kind of cool that, you know, he
has a colleague from work that wants to hang out
with him, and Turk Turk and Caller on together yet
you know what I mean, they're just starting their courtship,
you and doctor Cox, even though he's still giving you
advice and stuff like that. I also noticed that this
is the first time he calls you a woman's name.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Find the show too where he catches men's smoking.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, he calls you Susan. But this is you know,
you guys weren't in sync yet, so you don't really
know this guy and you're trying to get to know him,
or JD's trying to get to know him, but they
don't really know each other that well yet. And I'm
jumping ahead, But that stuff in his apartment is phenomenal.
Going back and looking at it, I was like I

(16:22):
had no idea one that it was this funny, and
two that it was this important, you know what I mean,
Like I had no clue watching it back then. It
kind of seems like a blur. And you know, to
be honest with you, most of this episode, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, there's things, there's things I don't remember. I don't
remember my It's funny, I don't remember my head exploding.
I mean, really no, I don't. I mean I remember,
I don't remember doing that gag. A lot of the
stunts and stuff I remember, I remember falling over when
he closes the door on my on my leg and stuff.
But the head exploding, I don't remember shooting that. But
I want to just pick up what you said. I agree.

(16:56):
A lot of it is about establishing these relationships that
were going to follow ultimately for nine seasons. And also
Judy really comes through in this episode. Judy Ray says, amazing,
she does some awesome work, and it's establishing a really
important theme that I think comes across throughout the whole
series is that we young doctors are learning the importance

(17:18):
of nurses because we come out of medical school and
we're super cocky and we think we're going to be badasses.
But we learn right off the bat, you know, not
to be cheesy and say the theme song. But we
can't do this all on our own. We need the
help of the nurses. And every doctor we ever talked
to in doing research would say, yeah, I mean the
nurses run the show. You know, if you're a Laman

(17:39):
and you don't know you have no idea how much
work and pressure and stress the nurses are all constantly under.
And I was thinking about that now, especially with the
Corona crisis going on and watching all the news, and
I was really, I don't know, extra moved by it
in this episode, seeing like that those nurses are just
working their asses off, and Sarah's character in particular needs
to learn that, like, no, no, we're a team and

(18:01):
you need to like check your arrogance at the door,
and this is really about like we're gonna do this
together and you need the nurses to be on your side.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Absolutely absolutely with that. I agree with you one hundred percent.
It's true. Nurses are the heart and soul of the hospital.
Just to piggyback on what you said about Sarah, though,
a perfect example of someone who's not sincere about their
apology is when they apologize to you and then it's
followed with but just to be clear, you know what
I mean. And she totally does that in this episode,

(18:32):
and everything that happens to her after this is because
of how she just consistently put her foot in her
mouth throughout this episode. Now, I wonder, if I don't remember,
if it carries on through this season, but through the
career of the show. Through the show, her character always
had the worst luck.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, well again, that comes from her life too. I mean,
Sarah is a klutzy gal. She'll be the first to
admit when she comes on our show. And Sarah come
in from the weekend every single time, without fail, every
single Monday morning, and you're like, you, guys, are not
gonna believe what happened to me this weekend? And she
would go on to tell the craziest story that you
would be like a once in a in a two

(19:13):
year period to a normal person, something like this would
happen to you, and it would happen to Sarah every weekend,
and we'd be we'd be like, Sarah, you're you're putting
us on it. Can't that can't have happened to you
this weekend, and you're not gonna believe it. And then
on top of that, and then my keys fell, and
then my wedding ring got lost, and.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
I remember one story was like a car lost control
and started barreling down a hill and her fiance at the.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Time had to drop in the car.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Or grabbed a kid out of the way, or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
I remember, and when there was then her wedding ring
fell down a gutter, and every every weekend it was
like it was like here we go, and Sarah would
have a half hour story like you guys, and she
was always breathless. She was like, you're not gonna believe
what donald. At two fifty four, one of the most
important characters in Scrubs history is introduced a character very

(20:07):
near and dear to our hearts named Rowdy.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yes, absolutely, I made that note. Also, Holy cow, Rowdy
that joke. When we were filming it, I was like,
this is the oddest thing I've ever done in my life.
This is a stuffed dog, right, and we're gonna pretend
like it's our pet.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I think Bill will have to ask him. Let's make
a note to ask him when he comes on. But
I think that the idea was that some doctor had
told him that they never had time to have a pet,
especially when they were just starting out, because their hours
were so insane, and so he thought it would be
funny if if we got a taxiderman pet.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
I mean, that's the oddest thing I've ever heard of
in my life.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I know, just I mean, where did they find that thing?

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Exactly who in that right mind was like, you know what,
I'm misbuster.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
No, I think people do him. I do think it's
a thing. I mean, I really think. I'm sure out
there are fans with you're listening, you can write in
and tell us. But I do think there are people
that taxidermy their pet.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Okay, I don't understand, Joelle, have.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
You ever heard of this? Joelle's nodding, she has heard
of this.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Barbara streisand Barbara streisand I believe his taxidermied and cloned
her dogs. She clones her dog because she's sorry so much.
I think she's on like volume five. We have the
technology to clone animals.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, you can clone your dog. You didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, you can clone your dog. It all started with
Dolly the sheep. Remember they cloned the sheep Dolly.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
I thought that was like only a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
And that was many years ago, and then since since now,
if you're Barbara streisand I'm sure it's very expensive, you
can clone your dog. So rowdy was taxidermy? Now? I
tried to get rowdy when the show was over, and
I listen, we did nine years I said to Bill,
the only thing I want from everything is Rowdy. I
think it would be a wonderful souvenir for me to have.

(21:56):
And he said sure. And then the people at Disney
who owned the show said, no, you can't have Rowdy.
He belongs to Disney. And I pictured, like you remember
at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, how
they put the arc of the Covenant way in the back.
I pictured Rowdy going into like an endless infinite uh
of you knowrehouse warehouse in the back, and like the

(22:20):
forklift is going by like other taxidermy dogs, and he's
going like way, way way.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
In the back, right the dog from Frasier's tax exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
And I was just so bumped. So when I made
my film, wish I was here that you were in,
very very funnily as the Ashton Martin Dealer, I said
to Disney, Hey, for the scrubs fans, I thought it'd
be funny if I put Rowdy like in the back
of a scene, like an Easter egg for them to find.
And I said, cand I borrow the dog, just to put,
you know, just a little Easter egg for everybody. They said,

(22:51):
we will, but we're gonna send him with a bodyguard. Wow,
because we're worried that you're gonna try and steal him
once he's delivered. So they sent Row with a handler.
They sent the taxi dermy dog with a handler.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I feel like that's understandable though, because I feel like
if they didn't send the dog with the handler somewhere
along the way, the dog would have got lost.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
I wasn't gonna steal the dog. I was gonna build
my best behavior. Listen, he didn't look good though he
looked he looked, he did not look as good as
he looked thin. I remember. I know it makes no sense,
but I remember when he showed up on set with
his bodyguard, thinking like, he doesn't look good. He's not

(23:32):
being taken care of.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
He'd not be taken care of it all.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Like one of his paws was all janky, and like
I had to like blew it.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Do you remember the prop master who hid Rowdy.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I don't know if this is Scrubs urban legend or not,
but go ahead, you tell it.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Well. I just know that we had a prop master
who didn't work out.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes he was he was let go right and to.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Get back at production he decided that he was going
to hide Rowdy in the ceiling. Is that where you
hit it?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Well, as the Scrubs urban legend goes, he was let
go and he was angry about being let go. And
then you know, we were in the hospital that had
all those you know, lower tiled ceilings that you see
in hospitals, and apparently he he hid Rowdy up in
the ceiling tiles above the proper. Oh that's when, by
the way, that's when everyone started to be like, oh shit,

(24:29):
if we lose Rowdy, this is bad. We need a backup.
And that's when they got Stephen.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Right, but they had like three or four different rowdies though, so.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
There were just two. There was Rowdy and Stephen. Do
you remember, because there was a whole episode where where Judy.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Which where uh uh?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
And then I feel their balls and then I feel
their balls and I'm like, nope, that's Steven. So in
the world of Scrubs, JD had memorized the two different
dog taxidermy dog's ball sacks up, that's Steven. So let's
talk about our apartment set, because this is the first
time you're seeing our apartment. This was built into the hospital.

(25:07):
You know, Normally you'd have a set like this on
a sound stage. But in order for us to do
the whole show at this abandoned hospital, Cabint McMullin, our
genius production designer, found a way to build all of
this into I don't know what it was. It was
like the urgent care wing or something.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
No, if this wasn't in the urgent care wing, this
was actually in the basement of the hospital. Urgent care
turned out to be the bar, the bar and all
of that stuff, right, but this was this was actually
right by the children's ward in the hospital. So if
you went, they.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Knocked out some walls and so this was. This was
in you know, this looks like prett damn good apartment,
but it was in the hospital.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah. It was also the loading area also, so when
they would cut and at night when they wanted to
bring things into the hospital. On the other side of
the wall, there was this big garage door that you
could open up and load all the equipment. I remember.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
It was always incredibly hot, right, there was no, it
wasn't it wasn't meant to be a sound stage with
lights and everything.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
The whole hospital was on fire because you know, you
couldn't run air condition when we're running like we used
to have the tubes. Remember, we would have the tube.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
God, they'd have a tube wrangler.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Even in our dressing rooms. They gave us like halfway
through season one, they gave us our own little air
conditioning units to keep us cool because the hospital got
so hot in the summer.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Right, but I remember, so there was an air conditioning
in the hospital, and so they had these exterior units
and they had these tubes. I'm sure you've seen them.
They were like, I don't know, two feet in diameter.
They'd be running everywhere to try and make it comfortable,
but they were. It was someone's full time job to
try and wrangle the tubes.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah. So what I noticed about this episode I kept
waiting for one line that made it into the promo
for the first episode but wasn't in the first episode.
And that's when Elliott says to me, Hey, when did
you meet Morgan Freeman.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
I laughed out loud when that line came up. I mean,
I knew it was coming, and you know, there's some
jokes in this that, even though you know them, I
just laughed out loud when I heard that. It's just
that was so frigging funny.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, I laughed my ass off, and you know it's
really my mom. But that's not even the funny part.
The funny part is she goes she has lovely freckles.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I love hers. I love her freckles. Okay, So the
next thing I wrote down was Todd the introduction of
Rob Mashchio and Rob kind of is this guy, right?
I mean he not that he was like I mean,
not that he was a womanizer like this, but he
was kind of like a funny, funny jockey kind of guy, right.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Absolutely, he was very well. He was a pretty good athlete,
you know what I mean. He took really good care
of his body and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I remember he told me he ate a pine of
Ben and Jerry's every day, which I always found amazing
because he would have to work out like that much
extra to work off of pine of Ben Jerry's a day.
So he must have worked out a time to have
his Todd body.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
And he was a lot older than us at the
time too.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I think he's seventy five in this episode. No, he
does look good. I I remember he wasn't like like
that old, but I remember he was older than us.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
He was a lot old. He was like in his
I'm gonna say thirty something, We were twenty something, and
he was like thirty five, thirty six.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Rob's gonna come on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
And I really enjoyed the fact that, you know, you
do projects and sometimes they don't really put the effort
into develop you know, these romantic relationships with the characters.
And I really enjoyed the effort put into Carla and
Turk's courtship and how you know what I mean, and
how it became a storyline in the show. And it

(28:45):
wasn't just something that from the beginning they had chemistry
and now they're dating. You know, Turk had to work
for it, Carla had to work for it. And then
and the ultimate thing was at the end they you know,
they're they're married with kids and stuff like that. I
love that we see their growth from the pilot to
this episode and then as the show goes along.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
You guys were such a good ying yang for each
other too. I mean, you're, you know, the sort of
silly jockey surgeon and she's just like so smart and
clever and and kind of running the entire hospital. And
I just thought the way that they wrote your flirtation
and your and your chemistry was really and you guys
performed it really, really well. Can I tell them the

(29:27):
story about what Casey first said when I tried to
set you up?

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
We were in the We were in a nightclub, Donald
and I and I see Casey Cobb, the beautiful Casey Cob,
across the club, and she was with Jessica Simpson.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Because she was she is her assistant.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
She was her assistant and now they're like best friends.
And I knew them just as acquaintances. And Donald had
such a crush on Casey. He was just staring at her,
like just like go I'd like, I couldn't, couldn't even
think about other stuff, wouldn't even wouldn't just like lost.
So finally I got the courage to go up to
Casey and I'm hey, so trying to be the best

(30:02):
wing man in the world.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
And I'm like, hey, so, I appreciate you one hundred
percent for this.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
So I was like, hey, my buddy really likes you.
He really thinks you're really beautiful. She goes who and
I point over like not over to Donald and she
goes Then you have like nine kids and I always
thought that was so funny. Cut to them getting married

(30:26):
in my backyard.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, at the time, I didn't have nine kids. I
only had four.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I had had four. But it was a funny, sassy
line from her. Yeah, and your charms obviously worked because however,
many years later they were married in my backyard.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, thanks to you being a great wingman.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
It all started with a wingman line.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I remember me being like, yeah, will you go over
there and talk to her for me? And you being like,
are you fucking kidding me? Go over yourself. I'm like,
oh no, no, no, no, no, no no, and.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
You're like, oh no, I remember you think I got
the courage.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I got the No, you did get the courage. But
you went over there, and then you came back and
I'm like, well, what did she say? Did I tell
you or you told me right No? No, no, you
told me right away. You're like, dude, She was like,
doesn't he have like nine kids? And I remember being like,
oh no, because I was like, that's what the ladies

(31:16):
in California think, that's what Hollywood thinks about me. I'm
a dude with all the kids.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Well, it's funny that it's funny that like, she wasn't like,
oh no he's not cute, or oh no, he's not funny,
or oh no, I don't think he's funny on TV
and movies. She was just like, doesn't he have like
nine keys? With herself accent? Anyway, this should be an
inspiration to you men and women out there who think
you can't possibly get that person you have a crush on,

(31:40):
and they might even open with a line equivalent to
doesn't he have like nine kids? But if you just
are persistent like Donald was, you could one day get
married in my backyard.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
All right?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Should we move on?

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
We talk about Rob running line because I always thought
that was funny. So Rob as a testament to Rob Mashio,
who played Todd. He would take it so seriously. And
I'm not making fun of Rob, because I get it.
He didn't have a lot to do in every episode,
and he would always make sure he was doing the
best he could. But sometimes we'd look over and he
would just be running his one line over and over
and over.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Air five yeah, air five.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah. We just see him a five Like I'd be
like dying five. Rob's over there running line air.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Five yeah, A five?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
High five Air five, Air five. They really did hurt,
those those friggin' rob high fives.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
For what it's worth, I was about to say it
seemed like you got used to it after a while.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
No, they really hurt, and the whoppersh noise was added,
but man, they really hurt. Sarah digging the grave at
around eight minutes and forty six seconds, that's become like
a popular meme. I always see, like, you know, when
fans send us gifts and memes and I see him
on the internet, on the interwebs. That's what I always see,
is it's funny watching it when you go, oh, that's
that meme I've seen before. But that Sara digging is

(32:51):
one people use when like they're putting their foot in
their mouth, dig in the grave.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
I forgot. I totally forgot about that, and so when
I saw it, it was really refreshing and really funny. Huh yeah,
it was very funny. And then they throw dirt on
her too, at her rose. That's a great joke.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
The next thing I wrote down was, oh, the would
you like to play a game thing with the robot voice?
Do you remember what movie that's from?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Of course War Games?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yes, one of my favorite movies.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
And then the other one was from Buck Rogers B
to B to BD BD. Hey Buck b that's Buck Rogers.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
But war Games? Would you how about a thermone nuclear war?
Remember that?

Speaker 1 (33:26):
How about? And yeah, it was Matthew Broderick and Ali Sheety.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Of course, I remember that they're listening to this podcast
and you haven't seen War Games. I need you to
put it on after this podcast is over because it
is such a good movie.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, I mean, you don't have to put it on
after the podcast, I.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Think, yeah, well not during, right. I remember being a
kid and thinking, well, everything Matthew Broderick did when I
was a kid, I just thought was incredible. I just
wanted to be Matthew Broderick.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Especially in war games. In war games and in Ferris
Bueller's Day.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh yes, of course. I mean he's kind of the
same character.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Well kind of s and war games he was like
a kid that didn't have a lot of friends, and
Ferris Bueller he was the king of He's such.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
A good actor. Though. In Wargames, you know, by the way,
a little trivia, they made a sequel to Wargames that
the writer director had nothing to do with what was
it called. I don't know. Joelle will insert that here
later in her voice.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
War Games the Dead Code, which came out in two
thousand and eight, attrected by Stuart Gillard.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, but neither the two stars Ali Sheety or Matthew
Broddock were in it, right right? That one's not the
sequel is not Zach and Donald approved. But the first
movie is. Oh, I just the eleven thirty three. I
just wanted to point out that's the very first time
we saw the lounge, our Doctor's lounge where so many
much of the show ends up taking place, and the
introduction of Doug. I didn't realize Doug got introduced so early.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Neither did I. I didn't realize that either. I also
remember that pac Man machine and how when we were
working that was an actual, real working pac Man game
and I would get kicked off a set. I remember
Franklin Got Better and Scott Harris kicking me up. These
were the first ads on.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Scrub Assistant Directors.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, I remember them kicking me off set because I
kept trying to get the high score on pac Man.
I remember that pac Man game, and I remember when
they finally made a sort of pac man game didn't work,
and I was so pissed off.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
At a certain point, they made it so it wouldn't
function even if you plugged it in. They got wise.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I loved that. I thought that was the coolest set
piece ever.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
And I was happy to see Doug because he's very funny.
And I remember in the Wizard of ob episode which
I directed, one of the funniest lines he ever said,
which was, dead people should be dead. Do you remember
when I come back to life?

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I do remember.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Why are you hitting me? I thought you were dead?
Why are you hitting me? Because dead people should be dead?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I would have done the same.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Thing, Okay, I thought at thirteen fifty, there's a cool
moment where, just stylistically, Adam Bernstein and again just sort
of setting up the style of the show where everyone's
looking into the lens talking to me, and then it
cuts to Judy and she does it, and then she
looks down and the camera pulls back and I'm next
to her.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I just think she looks at you.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I stylistically, that was really kind of a cool thing.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
That was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Adam sort of set the bar early on as the
director of episode one and two that the camera was
going to be a character in the show, and every
director that came on after would add their own little
bit of style to it, especially in this first season,
you know, figuring out innovative ways to move the camera
and to do colored camera shots and trick shots.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Adam really he did us a great service, him and
Bill by giving us something. In hospital shows, it's really
about the doctors and the nurses and everything like that.
Adam and Bill found a way to make the hospital
a character in the show. And they found a way
to do that early on, you know what I mean.
So when you're there, it's never the same. It doesn't

(36:45):
feel like, you know, I'm watching a hospital procedural or
I'm watching It's something wacky about it. There's something different
about it, and I think that really helped with telling
the story, you know, of JD and his group of
friends in this hospital.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, and Adam. I think Adam really set the tone
for that, and I remember him and of course the
next few that come up, you know, all all the
directors in this in this first batch. I think Mark
Bucklan's another one coming up that really helped set the
style in the look. Some things were phased out as
it said, the whip noises like yeah, when you go
when you're moving your hands. Yeah, So there was a

(37:23):
lot of sound effects obviously, but that whip thing is
like one thing they toned down. This high school fantasy
that starts at fifteen minutes or so is so funny,
so well done, don't you think hilarious?

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Dude? The fact that they put the pimples on her
and the braces and turn band stuff and then all
of us being like the cool kids and stuff like that. Yeah,
you know, Aloma is I guess really the only nurse
from the pilot that made it all the way through,
because there's people that surrounded Judy where I'm like, I
don't recognize any of these people.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
I recognize a few. I recognize a couple of the women.
By the way, none of the people who became like
major background on people that we focused on are in
any of these episodes. It'd be interesting when as we
go to watch, it'll be in triest to see when
we see their first appearances.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Like, yeah, I saw one dude who was this bald
guy and he kind of looks like Colonel doctor but
he's a bald headed guy and he shows up in
so many scenes like back to back to back to
back to back.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah, let's talk about how and Cox's apartment.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
That looks like a set, dude, No, it's so bad.
First of all, looked like a set, dude.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Not to dis cabot because I'm sure that at this
time they were already out of money. But this is
the only set so far that looks like they just
put a couch into a hospital. Like there's so many
things on the walls that are like, why is there
a speaker on the side of his wall at his house?

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Not only that, why is that big window there that
goes nowhere?

Speaker 2 (38:44):
I know, it's so funny, and then we justify it
by making a joke about like, oh, your apartment is
so cold. But I was like, wow, man, they I
think this is This was the first moment like where
does he? Where does he live? But he live in
the hospital.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I love this scene between me and Johnny and this
is one of the one of his lines of scrubs.
I remember, do you want to be the big spoon
of the little spoon?

Speaker 1 (39:03):
I had no idea what spooning was. I knew that
you could spoon, like I know what spooning was. But
I didn't know that you could be there was a
big spoon and a little spoon. I had no idea
that that existed, and that kind of was like, oo
little spoon. That whole scene is hilarious, you know what
I mean, even though when he kicks you out and
he gives you the lesson and he's like, now come here,

(39:24):
let me give you a hug, and you're like, get
the fuck out of here. He's like, come on, come on,
come on, give me a hug, and you're like me
and he's like, come on, give me a hug, and
you go for the hugg. It's like get out of here.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah, very funny. He's so good and really just so good.
I really just liked that scene between the two of us.
It really kind of showed the dance with Johnny see
where it was going to be like, you know, fucking
with me a ton and really but then eventually there'd
always be a lesson underneath it, and he'd always drop
in and be a good mentor. I mean, that's when
this is called my mentor. So he's doesn't want me

(39:54):
to a mentor, doesn't mean a mentor, And in the
end he finally drops some knowledge, like you can't save
these people. All you can do is do your You're
not responsible for changing people's habits. You can't make someone
who's gonna smoke not smoke. And I know that this
is something and that doctors must deal with all the time.
They wish they could make their patients stop eating that
fast food, they wish they could make their patients stop smoking,

(40:14):
whatever it is. Johnny's trying to teach JD early on,
like you don't have control over over that. You can
only do what you can do.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I had made a note on that. Also, when doctors
come into the hospital for the first few months, maybe
even more than that, they take everything so personal. And
that's great to have that type of attitude, but if
you continue that type of attitude, it's going to be

(40:42):
really hard for you to make it as a doctor,
you know what I mean. And that's what JD had
to experience, you know what I mean. JD cared so
much about Will and you know, and Will quitting his
cigarette addiction, and he thought that that was a bonding
experience between him and doctor Cox. You know, dude, I

(41:03):
know you're thinking about it, and let's talk it over
so we can come back in tomorrow with a game
plan and stop this dude from smoking cigarettes. And at
the end of the day, that wasn't your job. Your
job is to test and treat, you know what I mean.
That was JD's job. Let's test him and see what
ailments he has, and any ailment we find, we're gonna

(41:27):
treat and try and save him from all of this
extracurricular activity of you giving a crap about you know,
how he got here. That's not in the cards because
at the end of the day, if this person does
pass away, how do you develop the strength to get
up again? If you were so so invested in this

(41:48):
person's well being. And as much as that sucks to hear,
that's how doctors have to be. That's how nurses have
to be. They're gonna deal with death, they're gonna deal
with life, they're gonna deal with disease, They're going to
deal with all of these things. And how do you
put up a shield so at the end of the day,
if you do lose somebody, you can come back the

(42:10):
next day and do your job. Yeah, you know what
I mean, And that was what Cox was trying to
prepare j D for.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, early on early on in the show, because like
he's like, you need to get used to this. This
is not You're not going to be able to save
every single person and change all their habits. By the way,
I'm looking at the credits and I see that John
Doosey's who was the guest star as Will His character's
name Will Forte. And was there some connection to Will Forte?
Did someone It wasn't one of our writers was partnered

(42:38):
with Will Forte.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
I do believe you're right. I was in Schwartz Schwartz
with Schwartz. Yeah, speaking of Mike schwartz Zach. The show
that I'm that I shot all last year, Emergence, which
is on ABC, which is another Disney show. The creators
of that show wrote on ED back in the day
with a young Mike Schwartz.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Oh really, that's that must be where Bill Off found him. Maybe,
Oh yeah, ED came first because I remember when the
show ED was on and Tom Cavanaugh's picture went up
on billboards and I still didn't have a job. My
mom would call me and be like, there is a
show where this guy looks exactly like you and and
he's on billboards everywhere. And I remember thinking like, great, yeah,

(43:21):
that's not me, mom.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
It's kind of it's kind of crazy how he came
on to be a brother later on. I know, I
wish they I wish they would have had I wish
you would have had two brothers. I wish it would
have been him and then Dak Shepherd as your other brother.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
I know, I get this thing. I don't know what
it is about my face, but people tell me I
look like so many different people. Obviously Dak Shepherd's the
most common these days, but I used to get Tom
Cavanaugh and Ray Romano.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah I remember Ray Romano.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah, yeah, I Finally early on when our show launched,
everyone was saying that I was like young Ray Romano.
And I remember I met Ray Romano like on a
press line somewhere, and he looked at me and he
was like, oh, it's like looking in a mirror. I
couldn't remember if he was finding the comparison. The funny.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Can you tell the story about how when we went
to Vegas and I was in the bathroom and I
was washing my hands, and I left and the guy goes, oh,
you know who that was, right? Do you remember the story.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Unfortunately, I remember the story but I forgot the punchline,
so you're gonna have to tell it.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
So we're in Vegas and we're hanging out. It's us,
Josh Rayden, our buddy, Carrie Brothers, and Michael Weston, who
also at some point was on the show.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, came by the show as private dancer.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Right, right, But Carrie and Josh both had music on
the show, if I remember correctly, right, yes, right, So
we're all in Vegas. We go to Vegas. It's our
first time going to Vegas to as a group, and
we're you know, we're very young, and we've we've got
a little bit of money at this point to spend
in Vegas. We had a really good time. We stayed

(45:05):
at the MGM Grand they hooked it up for us.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
The story, as I even correct is I was in
the bathroom. Donald in the bathroom and Donald washed his
hands and then he left and the person that was
in there said to his friend, you know who that was?
And in my mind I'm thinking, like, oh, Donald getting recognized,
And the guy goes who and he goes, that was Erkele.
That was fucking Erkle, dude, And they were like freaking
out that Erkele had been in the bathroom with him.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
I love that. What about looking to this day? I,
you know, to this day. Anytime I could be mentioned
in the same story as Jalio White, Tay Diggs, all
these people who were like, you know, iconic for being
really good at playing a character. You know, Julia went
on to do Stepan Erkele, which was really freaking awesome

(45:50):
and it showed his range as an actor and everything
like that, anytime I could be mentioned in the same story,
like one time quest Love hit me up, it was like, Yo,
somebody said I look like you. Was like, that's the
best day ever, dude.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I remember when we first became friends and we'd go
out and about no one knew who I was at all,
but some people would would know Donald's name. But a
lot of people would just be like, yo, yo clueless, clueless.
They would just yell clueless at you right all the time.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
YO clueless, clueless, Yo clueless, And then they'd point to
you and be like, YO, clueless boy, his friend, Yo
clueless boy.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
His friend look at clueless his friend that's clueless and
clueless his friend.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
That story has a horrible ending, though, man, it's a
horrible well. The ending is you know, you did Garden
State and all of a sudden you became Zach Braff
and people were like, oh shit, Zach Braf, and look
who he's hanging out with. He's got clueless with him.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
That's not what happened.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
That is what happened.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
That's funny. I just remember, you know, it's funny the
thing the things that people yell at you on the street,
like you don't get clueless anymore, I'm sure, but I know.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
But I get a lot of black scrub thanks the
family guy. I get a lot of black scrubs and
get scrubs and.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
You know, yeah, I got I get where's all the time. Yeah,
Sometimes people will know my name and they just talk
to me right away, and I can't figure out if
I know them in real life or they just know
me as an actor. And especially when I'm in New
York because I lived there part of the year, and
people just walking down the street just start talking to you.
And you don't want to be I don't want to

(47:17):
be rude at all, but I'm trying to think, like,
do I know this person or do they just know
my name. One time I was parallel parking in Manhattan
and it was going horribly and some guy walks by.
He's like, you're killing it, BRAF, and I just couldn't remember. Like,
I just was like, do I know that? I don't
think I know that person. They just give me shit.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
That happened to me recently at Starbucks before this whole
quarantine thing happened. I was at Starbucks and a guy
comes up to me and goes, Donald, how you been man.
I'm like, hey, man, how's it going. He's like, you know,
I'm good. And then I realized, oh, I don't know
this guy. I was like, wait, how do we know
each other? And he says, oh, dude, I'm just such
a huge fan of yours. And I remember thinking, holy cow,
that's how you get caught out there. Dude. From here

(47:59):
on out, if somebody says to me, Donald, how's it
going and I don't know who they are, I'm not
gonna be embarrassed anymore, because there's that moment of embarrassment
where you're like.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Wait, I don't want to don't want to.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Want hurt, hurt anybody's feelings. Oh.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
I thought of another person that I used to really
get a lot before. Was Anne Hathaway's boyfriend that went
to jail. Do you remember that guy?

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
He was involved in some I think it was business
or money crime something, but he went to jail. And
I walk in. This is years ago. I walk into
a coffee bean and I walk in and I see
our senial hall and he's looking right at me, and
I don't think. I don't ever met our senial hall,
and but I was kind of geeked out because I
loved arsenial Hall and he kind of smiled at me.
He brought me over to the end of the counter

(48:45):
where they delivered the coffees, and there you can hear
the music. Oh is Eddie Murphy standing there? And I'm
like having one of the greatest moments of my life.
And now when I meet famous people, I can normally
hold it together.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna keep it on. I remember saying to
you one time, dude, how do you do this? Man? Like,
that's freaking Benjamin Bratt right there, and you're not even
geeking out, really, You're just like it's not even a
and You're like, I don't, I don't, I don't geek out.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Well, I can hold it together sometimes, but when I
met Eddie Murphy. I mean, I just started gushing. I
was like, Eddie, I'm so sorry, but I just want
to say that, like you were like such an inspiration
to me, and and and and and Beverly Hills cop
I gotta tell you it's I use it as an
example all the time because like, the bad guys were
like legitimately scary. But he goes, he goes, who that
bad guys weren't scary? Who Victim Maitland? And I was like,

(49:32):
oh my god, Eddie Murphy just said Victor Maitland to
me in a coffee shop. My life is peaked right now.
He's like Victim Maitland and I'm like, no, not like
Victor Maitland. Like, well, I was like the Henchman. He goes, yeah,
well the Henchman was scary. And then he interrupts me
and he goes stares at me, and he goes, anybody
ever tell you look like Anne Hathaway's boyfriend that went
to jail? And I said what. He goes yeah, because

(49:54):
I was watching the news and I was like, that
looks like the dude from Scrubs. And I thought, this
is the most surreal moment of my entire life. Eddie
Murphy is telling recognize. A he knows who I am because
he knows what scrubs is. And B he's trying to
figure out if I've been told before that I look
like Ann Hathaway's boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
That is hilarious.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
By the way, the last part of that story, I
gotta tell you because it's so funny. I go to
the Lama's Rob premiere, the movie premiere, and because I
love Lama's Rob, as you know, and.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Drink with me two days gone barre.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
All right, So, by the way, we'll do a special
episode of this podcast where we just sing. Anyway, I'm
walking and I know Anne Hathaway as an acquaintance, and
and this is right around when all that shit went
down with her boyfriend, and I'm walking towards her to
say congratulations, and her father stands up and like gives

(50:51):
me this look like I'm gonna kill this mother fucker.
He's got the balls to crash my daughter's mirror. I'm
gonna strangle him. And I got within ten feet of
the dude and then his face just fucking broke and
he went like sided breath relief and realized that it

(51:11):
was me not the ex boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Oh man, Now you know what black people go through
all the time.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
All right, I think we have a caller, right, Joelle.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
We do.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Welcome Kayla.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Thanks for being here.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
What's up? Kayla?

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Hi? Kayla?

Speaker 1 (51:27):
He yo?

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Hi? How are you?

Speaker 4 (51:31):
I'm good. They're crazy but good.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
I hear yeah, we hear you. It's crazy times.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Thank you so much for being our second ever caller.
We're very very excited to have you. We can answer
any question you have about anything, well almost any question,
but mostly Scrubs related. That's about it.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
That's fair, Okay. I guess like my first question would
be a lot of shows that premiered at that time
had that awkward first season, but for whatever reason for
me a viewer, Scrubs didn't have that. Was that something
that you guys all felt as a cast?

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Uh? Speaking for I was just happy to be on
television when I look back at it now. Absolutely, you're
absolutely right. Scrubs started off at a high point and
it just kept going up from there as far as
storytelling goes. And that's really you know, you got to
give props to Bill Lawrence and his team of writers. Also,

(52:25):
you know, the crew and you know how they were
in line and just ready to go once we started.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
With so many shows. I agree, Kayla, you go. You
can't help but go. Especially with pilots. I'm always saying
to friends and when you know, when you recommend a show,
you're like, give it like three episodes because you know
the pilot's good and everything. But you know there's because
the pilots are so hard. You have to introduce so much,
so many characters, and the tone and the style and
the it's so hard to do a pilot have it worked.

(52:52):
So I guess you guys have said this to people too.
You're always like, just give you a couple episodes, Whereas
I agree, Build builded such an amazing job with the
pilot and the first few episodes that he was able
to in twenty three minutes an episode, be able to
just launch it. I'm just looking at the my screen.
This one was like twenty one minutes or so. It's
just amazing how much got crammed in and beautifully woven together.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
You know, being on the show. I hate to brag
about the show, but I think that's what made the
show so great, you know what I mean. It's like,
you know, you didn't have to say give it two
or three episodes. By the third episode, though, we were
really on fire. You know, we were really telling great stories.
But we were telling great stories before that. It just,
you know, it just elevated even higher after episode three

(53:34):
because we found our groove.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
I love that because I remember my mom asked me,
I probably feel like I need to start something, and
I said, you should start Scrubbs from the beginning, because
I know you came in at this some pieces. She's like, see,
you don't have an episode for me to start, and
I said, no, you start from episode one.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
I love that. That's so awesome.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
That's great, Kayla. Do you have another question? Just because
we're all in isolation and have nothing to do but
to talk to you.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
Sure, so, I guess what's so great? Which is funny?
You say episode three? Episode two is probably my favorite
because so many of the show's major relationships are established
in that episode. So was that chemistry instantaneous or did
that come from filming episodes over the coming week.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
You know what's crazy is that that's how we opened the
show today. Pretty much. We talked about how episode two
it really sets off the journey that a lot of
these characters are going to have together, Carla and Turk,
Carla and Elliott, everybody in the hospital and doctor kelso
Jd and Cox. All of these stories are really starting

(54:38):
to bubble at this point, you know what I mean,
or starting to you know, gurgle, Yeah, gurgle whatever, Sure,
I don't. I don't know if we should use gurgle.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
No, Like you know, when like a boiling water starts
to come to a gurgle. Isn't that the word?

Speaker 1 (54:52):
No, it's not. That's not what gurgle means.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Thinking of gargle, not gurgling. Gurgle are different. I just
like saying gurgle. Another big thing was that we all
genuinely got along. Like you know, a lot of shows,
you're meeting all these new people. Just like any job,
there's any people you don't like, there's many people that
you do like. We all really clicked, like you know,
and I'm sure Donald and I have both been on
project since then where the magic wasn't there. This was

(55:18):
a project where like all those people we were and
the writers and Bill and the directors, the crew, we
were all friends and we were all hanging out. We
would all go out together. We just really genuinely loved
each other and a testament to the seven main characters
in the show. We all, you know, over nine years.
We had our moments. Of course, just like a family,
you'd get in arguments over things. But but for ninety

(55:40):
nine percent of the time, we all got along really, really,
really well. And I think that that shows in the
relationships in the show. Because we loved each other, we
rooted for each other. If Donald had a moment where
he was killing it, like we weren't trying to upstage
each other. We were like, go, man, go be that,
you're killing it right now, like we were rooting each
other on you know.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Yeah, we definitely for each other's biggest fans at the
time for sure.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Well, thank you, Kayla, thank you for calling in, and
thank you for for being our second ever caller.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
Thank you guys so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Thank you. Stay safe out there.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Where are you calling from? Are you in California? Are
you you're in Atlanta?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Yeah? Okay, we're on lockdown. Yeah, stay safe, Kayla.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
And I want to say, if you want to call
in to our podcast here, you're going to send an
email to Scrubs iHeart at gmail dot com. Is that right?
Joel Okay scrubsiheart at gmail dot com and we're going
to take a caller every week. I just want to
thank everybody for listening. Please hit us up on our

(56:47):
on our social media on on We're both on Instagram
and Twitter, and you can ask us questions. Tell us
what you what you like, want you want more of.
We want you to be have audience participation, So tell
us like things that you want to Constructive criticism, right, Donald, you.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Don't necessarily have to criticize us.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Well, constructive criticism.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
You could be like I'd like to hear more about this,
or I'd like to hear more about that, But don't
all of a sudden get on there and be like
just hating.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Well, people are gonna do that anyway. Donald, it's the innerwebs.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Nobody likes a hater. I'm just gonna keep it real
with y'all.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
No one likes hater raid. Don't drink hater raid. That's
what you used to.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Say, would Taylor Swift say? Because the hater's gonna hate hate, hate,
don't be that. You know what?

Speaker 2 (57:26):
I like the Taylor Swift lyric, and I'm just like,
damn it's seven to eighty am. When she's talking about
getting trolled early in the morning.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
I like, got a long list of ex lovers. That's
that's my favorite sing That might be my favorite, not
that that has anything to do with this show, but
that might be my favorite song.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
All right, listen, you know what my favorite song is? Donald?

Speaker 1 (57:46):
That she sings, that she sings.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
You know what my favorite song is Donald, And I
think we should go into it right now. It's our
theme song that we should say. We want to thank
you to Charlie Pooth who wrote the music and Donald
and I wrote the lyrics, and I think now is
a better time than ever to start singing it. So
thank you for listening. Thank you to all the medical
person out there out there who are on the front lines,

(58:10):
and thank you so much. And we we're watching you,
and we see you and we celebrate you. And this
was a show that was always trying and aspired to
be a love letter to the medical workers and U
and now more than ever, we want to say thank
you so much for being the heroes of today. Thank
you so much, and now let's sing Don.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Here's some stories that show we made about a bunch
of talks and nurses said.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
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Speaker 2 (58:47):
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