114: My Drug Buddy

On this week's episode, JD learns his new girlfriend has a secret drug habit. In the real world, Zach and Donald talk about theater camp.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I didn't tell you that this podcast is so blowing up.
It's so on fire that they've asked Donald Phase on
it and I had to go on the view. I
hope I get to talk to Whoopee. Well, you're old
friends with Whoopie. She was in Homie Spamoni. Yeah, we
did a movie together. It was great. I have some
apologies to make to her. I have to apologize, like profusely,
don't embarrass us in front of Whoopee. Bro, I won't

(00:21):
embarrass us in front of Whoopie. But I was like
a little punk back in the day, like I was
scared of I was so scared of celebrities and getting
to know actors who I was, you know who I loved,
like Whoopi Goldberg is one of my top five, Like
she inspired me as a youth, and yeah, like Jumping

(00:41):
Jack Flash. You know, uh, there's so many before all that. Dude.
When I saw the color Purple when I was a kid,
and I thought I didn't know anything about acting, but
I said, that is one of the best actresses I've
ever seen. Absolutely I cried and are you kidding me?
For the first time ever in a movie, And when
they pulled the sisters apart when pulled me and you

(01:04):
us never part mckidada. Oh my gosh, I can cry
right now. Let me tell you something. Ain't no mountain,
ain't no cy mackey, Dad, keep my sister away from me, mckidada.
And the fact that she went to her sister went
to live with her kids, Adam and Olivia. That was

(01:26):
even more special. Man, it was just that's one of
those movies. I could get tears in my eyes with
you recounting it. If you haven't seen The Color Purple,
it is a fucking masterpiece. Steven by Steven Spielberg, music
by Quincy Jones. Yes, and Steven Spielberg always used John Williams.
This was the one of the first times that he

(01:46):
didn't use John Williams and used Quincy Jones instead. Well,
that's good trivia. And Whoopi Goldberg's performance is unbelievable. And
Oprah Winfrey winfree she getting I know she got nominated,
she won the curve for that, she didn't for it.
Nobody from The Color Purple? Who could have beaten Joel
I am so sorry to start right off the bat,

(02:07):
but who could have beaten Oprah Winfrey's performance in the
Color Purple? Who is this person? Who is this thespian?
That one? Is that? That? That my favorite scene. You
told to beat me? Oh my life. I had to fight.
I had to fight my brothers, I had to fight
my daddy. I never thought I'd have to fight in

(02:28):
my own house. Got no sa do, but I killed dead.
Oh my god, come on, you just got me all
riled up about Color Purple. Danny excuse me? Yeah, Danny Glover, Ye,

(02:50):
Danny Glover. I mean, there's just I agree with you.
It was one of the first times I like sobbed
in a movie and I was a little kid, and
I was just like, just like, wow, this guy me.
I remember my mom tapping my dad and being like
the baby's shoots crying, My baby is crying, and that
part yeah, me and you us never part, And when

(03:12):
she teaches her how to read, and then of course
at the end when her sister comes back, when she
finds the letters, which is signing letters, when she finds
the letters. But when I think of, like you know,
sometimes they think about the movies that have made me
cry the most, I always think of of those two
sisters being torn apart in the color purple. That and
one of my favorite moments in that whole movie is

(03:34):
when Sugar Avery played by Margaret uh finally has lightened
up to Miss Cilly and she's written a song with
her band called Miss Cilly's Blues and they play it
at the juke joint. Sister, you've been oh my mind,
Oh sister, we're two of a kind soul. Oh sister,

(04:03):
I'm keeping my eye on you. That song is fire
And that was the Quincy Jones right that. Yeah, man,
this is all Quincy Jones, the whole soundtrack, Quincy Jones
Que Sister you love me? Oh myma. Okay, okay, I
can't do it like you. I mean, come on, I

(04:25):
know that's nobody could. Nobody could do it like Margaret Sure, Gabriel, Hey,
should we say stories about Sure? We made about a
bunch of docs and nurses, jan I said, he's the
stories should get around here are around here? Are so

(04:57):
much love for for the theme song, Donald lot to
love and on our on our instagrams for for so
many things Bill and his five six seven eight, and
I didn't realize that there were that few Peloton instructors,
so a lot of people were like Oh man, you
had such and such. I thought there were dozens of them.
Now I guess not I guess, or I guess the

(05:19):
one I described specific, very specific. You didn't really leave
much mystery. Did you work out today? I see you're
all sweating up there. I did work out today. I
found a new instructor. Oh good, you know you can
always you can pat down your head before we do
the podcast that I shout, I showered and everything. This
is that afterglow. This is that freaking Bruce what Bruce

(05:40):
Lee Warre was searching for at the end of the
last Dragon, I got that going right now. Really, why
don't you pull some sweatpants off the rack and pat
your forehead down? And I can't look at that for
an hour? Does does it make you uncomfortable? No? But
you need like what do you when you know when
the rappers always carry a wah cloth? You and I
got into big years the go about how you said

(06:01):
that African American people always bring a wash cloth into
the shower. Yeah, we did get into a debate about this,
and I said that I've never used a wash cloth
in the shower, and you said, you said, you said,
every black person I know brings a wash cloth in
the shower. Most black people use wash cloth, Joel, can
you weigh in on this, she said, nodding her hair.

(06:22):
Yet Black Twitter, when we learned that people do not
wash their legs, they were very loud about the youth
of wash cloths and try to inform a lot of
people in many reasons that you can always just take
a cloth in there and really scrub, like like, what
does your hand do that thing that has like friction
that is made for friction when wet. So as you're
married to a Caucasian woman, do you she doesn't know

(06:45):
she uses a washcloth. My wife is Southern. But hold
on now, let's not forget that my wife is Southern.
There's a lot of things that Southern white people, even
though they might have issues with black people, do exactly
the same thing that black people do. Well, if you're listening,
we want to know, um, no matter what your ethnicity,
if you use a washcloth in the shower, please you're

(07:08):
just getting hit us up on Instagram and let us
know if if you're walking now now you said washing
your legs, do well. I definitely think that I neglect
my my legs in the shower. You know, I throw,
I throw a little something down there, But I don't
like get in there with a wash clothe. You need
to get in there with a wash cloth. What about
your toes? Do you clean your toes? Yeah? Man, you
clean your whole body with it is. Don't hold on,

(07:32):
don't go to the ass and the genitals right away.
Wash your So you have to replace the wash cloth
each shower, well, I mean, because you gotta. You might
have a little doodo, aren't if you get in there deep,
if you get in there and then you come back
and all of a sudden your legs, No, no, no,

(08:02):
but that all listen. It all depends on how well
you wipe your ass too though. Okay, so if you
got dodo in the crack your ask when you're shower,
I feel no matter how well you wipe, if you
stick a wash cloth, you know, a quarter of an
inch in your anus, you're gonna get a little poo
on it. And I don't want to put that on
my legs. So let me get this straight. When you
are washing your body, you stick your finger a quarter
of an inch And you know, I'm saying if I

(08:24):
had no, I don't, But I'm saying if I had
a wash cloth, if I have the barrier mitt of
a wash cloth, I would probably inspired. I'd be inspired
to get in there and just get the inner rim
a little. Know. You know, when I when I'm going no, no,
Joel is the test audience, and she's cracking up. Listen, listen.

(08:46):
When I clean my sink, Donald for the most time,
I just you know, I clean the bottom of the sink,
get all the stuff to go on the drain, Like
once a week, I take a scrub, and I really
get the rim of the drain hole. So I'm talking
about that. Oh, got it, got it, got it, got it.
So let me get this straight. You'll wash your dishes,
the things that you eat off of with something right

(09:10):
that's not your hand. Yes, you're inspired me. Both you
and Joel are making me think that I gotta change
this up. I'm forty five years old. I'm gonna change
my whole shower routine. Man. We've had this conversation for
a very long time, you know, and I haven't changed
it yet. I know, well I have done it. I've
gone through periods where I where I where I where
I bring a wash cloth in, But then I'm like, oh,
I gotta change you eat shower. That's a lot of
wash claws. What about it? Like one of those scrub puffs,

(09:31):
like one of those alofa Yeah, but I'm not trying
to put aloofa between my cheeks scratch my ship up.
Oh my gosh. I'm sorry everybody. I hope you're listening
on earphones. You're listening on earphones and not out loud,
by the way, I gotta tell you, I'm listening to
I'm watching the funniest fucking show. I gotta give this

(09:53):
show a shout out. And also because it's on Hulu.
One of our sponsors, they love this called Dave and
it's a little It's Little Dickie. I didn't know anything
about Little Dickie. You haven't heard. I woke up in
Chris Brown's body. No oh, he has a song with
him and Chris Brown where he wakes up one day

(10:15):
and he's Chris Brown and Chris Brown is him. I'm
gonna watch I'm gonna watch all the videos. But Freaky Friday,
you have to watch Joel. Have you seen this show?
You guys have to watch the show. It is so
fucking funny. And then it's a. Donald. You will love it.
It's our totally our sense of humor. I didn't know.
I didn't know this guy at all. I'm sorry that
I'm not HIPTI little Dickie. I've seen the billboards are

(10:37):
all over l A. I didn't even like the billboards,
no offense to the advertising, like little Dickie hanging out
of underwear. No. I was like, I saw that billboard,
which is all over Los Angeles. It's little Dickie hanging
out of a pair of boxers like he's a penis
And I did not. I was like, that's definitely not
for me. And then enough people start, including Bill Lawrence

(10:57):
and uh and somebody else told me about the show.
We binged it. It is so fucking funny. We were
sad it was over wow, and it's hard felt. It's
one of those things you know, like, you know, obviously
like the show we're talking about, where you're laughing at
something so preprosperous one minute, and then they find a
way to put put hard into it. And he talks
all about how fucked up his penis is and we

(11:17):
were like, you know, no, I I literally I turned
to my gallon, I said, do you think this is
all fiction or is he really have this messed up
a penis? He doesn't mean small. I mean it's small,
but also like born with like birth defects that he
had to have fixed and which messed it up more.
And so right before this podcast, I was googling. I
was embarrassing. I'm laughing at myself, like is little Dickies

(11:37):
dick really fucked up? And I found this article Like yeah,
he was like, no bullshit. He was born with all
these problems with it and he had to have it
repaired and the repairs cost more problems. And he said
it was like a super soaker and the p was
coming out to two holes and he has to plug
one with his finger when he's at a yurnal and
all this crazy ship. Oh gosh, that he's got a

(11:59):
problem matic penis. Little Dickie is a pretty he's a
he's a very good rapper, and he's a very good
basketball player too. He's very I know that's in the show,
and he's very funny and all of a sudden, um,
you know who's hysterical on the show is uh Benny
Blanco plays himself and he's hilarious. I mean, I've never
seen the guy act before, and he's just a natural.

(12:21):
I mean, you cast him in in a show that
I had nothing to do with playing himself and Bieber
Bieber does a cameo. Anyway, that's my long plug for Dave.
You guys, I think that if Yeah, Hi, I'm Dave Donald.
I'm telling you you're gonna watch this when we hang
up today, Joel, you two, you guys will crack up
when we're done with the podcast and I put the
kids down tonight. Yeah, it's definitely not for It's definitely

(12:43):
not for your kids because it's super R rated. But um,
it's funny ship, there's amazing supporting cast and it sounds
like I'm I'm like, was paid to do an ad
for it, But I'm just sharing with you that I
loved it. Right on. Should we get into our show.
Let's get into the show. Aw awesome, we're talking about
My drug Buddy, My drug Buddy. Great episode. Michael spiller

(13:04):
Is is back as director and Matt tars one of
our favorites. Matt's Harses is um what we we choose
call a mensch, just a really sweet heart of a
human being. And Matt's Harses and I made a TV show.
It's gonna be a whole it's all gonna come full circle.
We made a TV show called alex Inc. That only

(13:25):
went ten episodes because you know, it didn't really click
with the fans and didn't work. But we worked on
it together, and it was about making a podcast. And
now here I made a podcast with you, and the
podcast we made is more successful in the darn TV
show we made. That's that's sometimes how it works out, buddy.
I know now we're going on the view, and that
right now, we're going on a view for a podcast.

(13:46):
I haven't been on the view ever. Really, you're going
you're going on the view for a podcast. Well, don't
get into a fight with Megan McCain. You know she
gets all riled up. I'm not. I don't talk politics all. Yeah,
me too. We're not. We're not to talk any politics.
We don't want anyone mad at us. It's not that
I don't want anyone mad at it at me. I
don't want to get mad at anyone else, and I

(14:07):
don't want to people get all riled up. That's why
I don't do politics on here. I don't do politics
on Instagram. I hate it. I hate wasting that energy
on somebody and having to listen to people's uh, their opinions.
My opinion, bam in your face. That's why I'm barely

(14:27):
even reading Twitter anymore because it's just the most It's
like the most aggro insane place if you were if
it were a town, you would never go to that
town ever you get into a fight, it would be
the town that you go to when you're ready to fight. Listen.
So this one's called My Drug Buddy. Great, great episode.
You know. What I noticed though, is that I didn't

(14:48):
laugh out loud that much, but I still had great feelings.
Like when the show was over, I was still like,
that was such a good episode. But I didn't have
moments where I didn't laugh out loud. You didn't allow
when Kelsel duty trying to get in the car and
Kensel rolls down the window like a quarter inch that
ship was hilarious. No, I didn't laugh at that. You know,
I did laugh There was one moment where I laughed
out loud. What you owe me twenty bucks made me

(15:11):
laugh so hard. That was when the janitor comes up
at the end after you've gotten you know, after you
and what about don't look no, no, no, yeah, Well
I've seen you do that for I've seen you do
that for twenty something years now since I met you.
You've been doing that. That's my ship. Everyone that was
not that was not written by the legendary Bill Lawrence

(15:32):
or this men she met tarsins. You've heard about hiding
nipples all me. Okay, Um, so he tastes like eggs.
So we wait, we see we wake up. Next to that,
we still haven't had sex. J D and an Alex.
That's the point of the episode, as we we've never
done the deed. Um we wake up. She says I
taste like old eggs, and that she likes old eggs.

(15:56):
Do you remember you've been in a relationship forever, but
do you remember trying to hold your your morning breath
from somebody new? No? Never, no, oh, I always do
I always did? You know back when you know and
something's new and you're like you don't want them to
think like you pooh, you far you you ever could
have bad breath. You're like trying to present the best
version of yourself. Now what you see is what you get?

(16:17):
Really yeah, and you I am that and and and
that's sometimes it's a problem. I'm who I am from
the beginning to the end of the relationship. So what
makes you better for what makes you fall for me
is the same thing as the reason why you broke
up with me. Most likely, all that is, oh he
has potential ship No no, no, no, it stops at

(16:39):
the door you walk in. You've been fixed up. You're
Casey fixed your ass up a bit, Yeah, Kate, Well,
Casey's a different story. I said, from the beginning to
the end. I'm still in this, So you're still a
work in progress. And and I've done with j D
has done before to where I've watched, you know, my
wife's sleep and just looked at her like I can't

(17:00):
believe she's my I've done that a couple of times.
I'm not gonna And then there's the times, by the way, no,
of course not. The only time Casey listens to the
podcast is when I'm like, I talked about you on
the podcast. Oh you did? Did you let me listen
to the podcast? Well, she's gonna love what you just said.
That was very romantic. It's the truth. That's sweet. How

(17:22):
about this monkey? How about this monkey in the market.
Bill was so into weird animals. I mean, we had
we always had weird animals on the show. But I
love I love monkeys not I love monkeys too, And
I don't know why. I guess that monkey was not
performing because he's so sped up. It's like weird, Like
I guess he You know, it's a lot to ask
a monkey to clap symbols, but um, but he did it.

(17:44):
He did it. Did you see the video of that
monkey trying to kidnap that kid? No? What's up? So
there's a video on Instagram of a monkey riding a bike.
He jumps off the bike like a gangster, grabs a
infant and snatches it up and tries to run off
with this little baby. Where is this taking place? I

(18:04):
don't know where. Wherever they got monkeys riding on bicycles
in the street. Snatches the monkey, snatches the baby and
rides away, and somebody's like hey, hey, hey, and then
the monkey like kind of gets scared that he's seen
trying to steal a baby. I can't watch the link
right now, it's only fifteen seconds. I'm watched it now.

(18:27):
What the fuck? Why is the monkey taking the kid? Oh?
My god, Indonesia, Indonesia. Don't bring your kids to Indonesia.
They will wrong, they will steal your kid. They're climbing
in your windows. Have you seen the monkey gangs fighting.

(18:51):
I don't know if it's Indonesia. Are aware, but there's
this place where there's always tourism and people are always
feeding all these monkeys, and because of the pandemic, nobody's
feeding these hundreds and hundreds of monkeys, so they're getting
in like turf woors. The gangs of different monkeys are
like getting into street brawls over the scraps of food

(19:11):
because there's no tourists feeding them. This sounds like a movie.
Have you guys seen that one, Joel or New I
have not. I've seen this reminds me of like water
ship down or something like that, where the hairs go
at it with each other. Dan's gonna find that video
down because now you got to see my viral monkey video. Okay,
I can't wait to see it now. When you say

(19:32):
that's what I'm talking about, first time, you didn't laugh
at yourself. I did no, because I say it, I
say it in real life all the time. That was
kind of like you're what you're talking about, Willis? That
was what you're talking about. Willis. Listen, you gotta have
a catchphrase, and I did have one. You had one too,
I didn't intend to what was mine? Eagle? By the way,

(19:54):
speaking of my catchphrase, one of which was nobody cares on,
I had so much people on Instagram writing, um, how
could you guys have a sewn on the show and
not say to him nobody cares Sean. But listen, we
have the real Scott Foley coming on. I can't wait?
And uh and is it true that we got Brendan
Frasier coming onto? I didn't know we were going to

(20:15):
tell the people, but yes, we got Brendan Frasier coming on.
I'm really excited about that. Everybody wants to be on
this hot podcast, you know, the one that's going on
the view. Everybody wants to talk about the hottest podcast.
Is it true that Krista Miller's coming onto? Yeah, we
got Krista Miller, we got we got Neil Flynn, we
got Johnny c McGinley coming back. We got built for
our finale of season one. You guys, you're getting all

(20:38):
of this fucking inside scoop on this episode. We're gonna
have Bill and Krista on together. Oh I love it,
so they could if we can, we should see if
we can get like the whole cast on at one
point and do like the only thing about that is
if you've ever been on a zoom call with more
than like four people, it just devolves into mayhem. I mean, yeah,

(20:59):
we could do it, just we. I did a zoom
call with like my family for somebody for my own birthday.
Sorry about to say for somebody, but we've done it
for a couple of birthdays. But like everyone's talking over everyone,
and my parents don't know how to use it, and
and everybody's screaming over each other. You know it doesn't work.
But no, but but but but you're right, Donald, I
want to give the people what they want. They might

(21:19):
want us to like read a script or something like that.
Maybe we could do something like that. I don't know,
I know, but Bill is not gonna go write a
fucking Scrubs episode right now. He's too busy. He's got
like nine shows. Hey, look at that video, Dan just
put it in the chat. But you want that tourist food? Yeah? Yeah,
theake it after dude with the who that's rival monkey gangs.

(21:49):
Hell to the No, hell, no, we had a monkey
on the episode. Yes, sorry, that was a long digression.
We had a monkey in the episode of Scrubs. That
was so long. That was a long digression. My drug
buddy hasn't a monkey. Yeah, now, okay, how about how
about keep it holy? Now that was funny, Alma, keep

(22:11):
it holding. Now keep that one in. The janitor asking
you if you slept with her yet, Yeah, that's the
whole runner, the whole runner of the episode. The janitor's
whole point in this episode is to make fun of
me for not sleeping with my girlfriend. Your girlfriend, by
the way, I feel like that's a thing that j
D gets these hot girlfriends and then somehow doesn't close
and and never sleeps with them. Remember when I got

(22:34):
I got actually with with with Liz um Banks. I
think we had had sex, but the time I got
her pregnant, we we didn't have intercourse. And remember I
said there was some, there was some, There was some.
You know, I forgot the analogy, but this whole elaborate
thing about how there was there was fire that landed
near the site, the site, and I wonder if you

(22:58):
can really. I mean, I guess you abably can really
get pregnant that way. I mean, if we put it
on the show, it's probably true. Yeah, someone must have
googled it, but what a horrible like thing to have happened,
you know. I also love that your your grace and
will and grace. You're not will, you're grace. Yeah that
makes sense. Um, I laughed a loud like I said

(23:20):
at Kelsel rolls down the window and inch for Judy.
By the way, I totally don't remember at all this
Kelso Judy storyline, but I thought it was very funny
and they were both really good together. They have good chemistry,
he says, I don't. I don't. It means she doesn't
give a crap a cheet Yeah, yeah, yeah, a moment

(23:41):
I noticed at six oh four, I'm in the on
call room with with Alex Liz Bogish and Sarah comes
in and mentions the missing percocet And if you know
the end of the episode, you track her face. She's
got a very guilty face on. Yeah. That was like
I said, Man, we always dropped clues, and the way
she deflected it was by saying, you know, like when

(24:03):
watching it this time around, knowing how the out knowing
what the outcome was, I was like, oh my gosh,
she just totally gave it away just now. She totally
winked at the camera like I did it. Yeah, you know,
But it's funny and any any to anytime, you know,
know the end of the movie or a TV show,
and you go back, you'll hopefully see some some little clues.
But of course I never watched this. I probably only

(24:23):
watched this episode once. I never noticed it. But this
time watching it back, I noticed that either it was
her choice or Spiller directed her to to give a
little bit of a look. But she definitely gives a
look like yeah, but that doesn't usually, That's what I'm
trying to say. Usually, you know, a lot of movies
you go back and you can't you can't find you know,
somebody whoever wrote it. Or television shows too, you go

(24:44):
back and you can't find where it all tracked from.
It doesn't always track. You know, who's really good at
tracking things are like you know, James Franco and Seth
Rogan and them when they write movies, like when I
saw this is the end, Franco gives you the whole
plot in the beginning the movie of what the movie
is going to be, and you don't listen to it
necessarily because you're just you're waiting for the lass. And

(25:06):
at the end of the movie it's the It's exactly
what he said to Rogan in the beginning. He's like, no,
this is gonna happen. This happens, and then at the
end Danny eats me, and then it happens in the
movie where we do that. But there have been a
special case where you didn't track it because you were
high off your ass. That's another thing that I've stopped recently.

(25:28):
You talked about how you know you eat unhealthy and
you went on this fast because I gave you. I
gave you a pep talk about your diet. But you
also talked about it on the on the podcast where
you were like, you know you we made all of
this pizza and then finally we were like, we're gonna
get healthy. He just showed me his abs, me Dan
and Joel his abs. If Danny Joel want to be

(25:52):
inspired as well, they can be very nice. Anyway, you
talked about it and I was like, well, I'm doing
so many horrible things. Like, I made fried chicken last night.
You sent me a picture of you eating fried chicken.
How is that going to help your diet? It was delicious,
By the way, I'm really good at cooking now, but
I can only cook bad foods, you know what I mean.

(26:14):
And so I was like, I gotta cut this out.
And so I've decided, Oh so you gave up weed
last night. You know how it is with me, And
I'll give you these speeches. It's not like I've been
off of it for you know, a week. We stopped
smoking weed literally less than an hour ago. Donald is

(26:36):
so funny. This is classic Donald phaze on and be
like yo yo, I stopped smoking weed. I'm like, oh man,
good for you, good for you? When um this morning,
yeah I woke up this month. But the crazy frustrating
about you that I fucking hate is when when Donald
commits to get in shape, he can do it in
like a month. He'll be ripped, like he will go
so hardcore who work out every day, will totally change

(26:58):
his diet. And then you'll see him and you'd be like,
holy shit, you did that in four weeks. And that
spoiled your ask because now you know in an emergency, Like,
if you get some part where you've gotta be looking good,
you can fucking do it so fast. Right, So, if
you're Marvel Star Wars, if you're listening and you're ever,
if you're ever thinking about hiring Donald Face on who

(27:21):
I Am? Who I Am? Comma, Who I Am, and
you're like, uh, but he looks like he's out of
shape right now, know that all it takes is one
month and I'm yours. Did you see Kamal? Oh my god?
He looks amazing, fucking hell man, he looks went all out.

(27:43):
He looks like an action figure. He does look like
an action figure. He looks well. It suits him too.
It doesn't look bad on him either. And I like
the fact that he shouted out his whole team that
did it, because I think sometimes these these famous actor
types they show what they did and they don't say like, oh,
and I had a chef and I had a trainer,
and because yeah, you gotta be honest with people and
say like, hey, I had a team helped me with this,

(28:04):
And I like, I liked when he revealed it on
Instagram that he that he shouted out everybody that helped him, right,
it's not something that you can do by yourself. I
don't know how to rock does it, but I'm sure
the rock has. He's a zillionaire. He's got he literally
he literally literally puts up a gym wherever he goes.
He's got a tent like a wedding tent gym that
that gets set up wherever he goes, the Iron Paradise.

(28:26):
Should we get back to the episode Donald the Love
of God. Um I thought at seven oh five it
was funny. And they're on their online at the coffee shop.
The guys wearing a giant headset like it kind of
dates the show two thousand one or whatever. He's wearing
like a full on like megaphone headset. Is it? Is
it a headset so he can call out orders over? No, no, no,

(28:48):
no no no. That this was he was a guy
on line. Remember she Judy gets in a fight, that's right,
and he's on the phone. Right, But this is before
the headsets got tiny, right. He had the Janet Jackson
went on, yeah, he or like the or what is it?
What was the boy band and saying or whatever that
you would have the big bye bye bye coming up
the headsets. So John C. And I you're on a

(29:09):
side schedule. Is that ever happened to you? Uh? No, me, neither.
I've never had to go to the bathroom at the
same time as another man consistently. Like I've gone to
the bathroom and and another man has been in the bathroom,
but I didn't go back to the bathroom four more
times that day and see same dude. Yeah, it's awkward.

(29:30):
I really hate I agree with Johnny C. I don't
like fucking urinal banter. And I'm sure like you're in
a side contact either. No, And I'm sure someone like
you being in the public eye sometimes you have people
that want to fist bump you and talk to you
in the men's room. That's no, no, no, no, has
that happened to you before? But I just want to
want to do a hip people want to do hip

(29:50):
hop hugs, people want to fist bump, No, dude. I
remember one time this dude, we're at the urinal and
he's like, dude, I love your work, and I was like, oh, ship, okay, cool.
And then we go to the sink and he's like
and we're washing our hands and he's like, I'm telling
you right now, man, is so good. You shine in
like a gold diamond right now, like a gold diamond.

(30:13):
Was the kiss a good kisser? He was a great kisser.
Not a great cuddler, but great kisser. I don't think
you know, it's fine. I don't want to talk when
I'm at the urninal, Like if you're why you speaking
of headsets? You see dudes like on their phone at
the urinal and they're like, no, Jim, I told you that,
and they're like, they're like shaking their dick and then
they're like then they pull out their phone while they're

(30:35):
peeing and they got their dick dangling and they're like
checking their Instagram. That's not my style. Oh my gosh,
that sounds horrible. Now I noticed you and Johnny. I
guess it's to hide penis for the camera, but you're
standing very close. And even Joel commented on this in
her notes that she said to guy. Joel said, quote,
do guys really stand that close to the urinal? And

(30:57):
I want to be like, no, Joel, No, I mean
I get this, the camera angle you had to hide
your junk moment. Probably want to know this. But there's
all different types of urinals. There's you know, at the
stadium there's like just a trough, and then at the
like a high end restaurant, they'll be like a border
that like blocks, like no, this is my space. You
can't now And nowadays to put a little you know,

(31:18):
it's funny they put something for men to aim for,
because studies have found that when men have something to
aim at, their way less likely to splash everywhere. So
now in the urinals they put like an etched little
bug or a little bull's eye, and you're supposed to
I mean, it's not it's not that doesn't say please
aim for the bug. You just your brain is like
I'm gonna hit that fucking fake bug. And the physics

(31:42):
of it, if you aim for that bug perfectly, you're
least likely to splash all over the floor. I always
wonder how that happens, you know what I mean. You
get on you get on a plane, and you go
into the bathroom and a plane and somebody has just
like ship their brains out in the bath and you're like,
what the fucklow did? I remember? One time lady came

(32:03):
at the one time, this young lady came out of
the bathroom and I saw when she came out. She
was in there for a while, but when she came
out I saw that she was She had the moment
of I should tell you not, but I'm not gonna
say anything because I'm a little embarrassed. And I went
into the bathroom and it was everywhere, and I was like,

(32:26):
what do you do? And I wanted to come out
and be like, right, what did you do? What did
you eat? Did you have the fish? So when I
walked by her going back to my seat, when I
walked by her, I just looked at her and shook
my head. You did, I was like, with disapprovement. Oh,
that's fucked up. Yeah, listen, have you ever gone into

(32:46):
a bathroom like an air like an airplane bathroom and
it's just horrible, like someone just destroyed it and you
you didn't You just gonna pee or whatever and get out.
And then you were like as you come out, the
person in line, and you you feel like you want
to tell him like I didn't do that, like whatever,
I need you to, though, especially when you're in the
public eye, you're like, you don't want to go home
and tell your friends like Donald destroyed that bathroom, So

(33:09):
you gotta be like, hey, I just went I had
nothing to do with in there. I'll even come out
and be like, you need to get the stewardess because
whoever was in their last you need to get the
flight attendant because whoever was in their last totally messed up.
I had nothing to do with the stalagtites on the ceiling.

(33:30):
So when Johnny sees banging his head on the wall,
I remember they cut a hole in the wall into
the other room and then put up Jim Matt Yeah, yeah, no, Matt,
a gym Matt, and then covered the wall again with
uh set wall, yeah, whatever the set wall was, and

(33:50):
they covered it up so that he could bang his
wall and not get a concussion. And if I remember correctly,
because that bathroom that we were in was actually two
where they cut a hole in the wall and then
just put a fake urinal against Yeah, well that's how
they got that shot of you. There's a shot of
you straight on and the plumbing of the of the

(34:11):
urinals in the foreground. They could have never gotten that
shot if that wall wasn't removable, or or they could
have rigged that little plumbing thing right in front of
the camera. I don't know. What they did. Also, the
hospital didn't have bathrooms like that, if you recall, right,
it didn't have shared men's rooms like that, right right?
Or and if it did, if it did, they urinals
on the wall. You had to go into a stall. Yeah,

(34:33):
it's very hard. It's very hard to shoot in the
bathroom anyway. So but yeah, so you and Johnny, that's
your whole arc is Actually there's a lot more to
the arc. It's we revealed. I never remembered at all
that it was this blatant that Cox had a whole
thing for for Carlo. I mean, you guys have it out,
you know at the end. Yeah, And that's what I
was trying to tell Johnny, and he was like I

(34:54):
didn't believe it. I'm like, all right, well whatever, man,
But well when we have him on, he's coming back on,
so we gotta we can ask him about this, right.
I laughed when you went, I went. I laughed when
you went You're my little peabody, right, I remember, I
remember when we were shooting this. This is when I
was like wow. And I even said to him, Johnny,

(35:16):
don't intimidate me, and he was like, I'm not intimidating you. Man,
don't you know, shut the funk up with that. And
I was like, you're right, let me just let me
do my work. And I remember being very excited to
work with john because you know this, this was really
my first moment ever that we had multiple scenes together
in the first your first story arc together, right, and

(35:38):
so we were working together, uh, multiple days. It wasn't
just one day of filming, and uh, we got to
develop some form of timing together because we we didn't
necessarily have that at this point. So wait, when you
started this episode, you said to him, like, don't intimidate me.
We were doing a scene, the scene where we're face

(35:59):
to face and Johnny is an intimidating person, and he
you know, but he was in character. He's supposed to
be trying to intimidate you, right, But as uh, as
a young actor who's working with somebody you admire and
you're doing stuff like that, you know, I got nervous
and I was and I you know, I mumbled out,

(36:20):
please come on, man, don't intimidate me. And He's like,
shut the funk up, I'm not intimidating you. Just do
the scene. And I was like, actually, right, you're absolutely right, good. Yeah. Yeah,
so so it was so it worked out because I
think you guys are really great together. It's very funny Johnny.
You know, he always was kind of you know, you
think about it in when he was on set kind
of in character is Cox. He was always kind of like,

(36:40):
you know, he's one of those guys you know some
actors um not like on the Daniel de Lewis level,
you here where someone's like you have to call him
President Lincoln. But like he was always you know, he
was always kind of you know a lot of people
stay kind of roughly. Manny b Tankin did that and
wish I was here. You know, he would you know,
he would be on set, he'd kind of be being
the guy even when you weren't shoot, and then you'd
call wrap and he'd be like, hey, that was a

(37:01):
great day, man uh see you tomorrow and big hug,
and he was like and Johnny and Johnny, I feel
was like that he would kind of you know, he
was always kind of don't you think, kind of steal
a little bit in the Cox character. And I think
and I think that's what everybody interprets as he's intense
and stuff like that, and and and and why people
are nervous when they work with him for the first
time because they misconstrue that as this dude is a

(37:28):
method or this dude is an asshole, or this dude's
just too intense for me, And what he was doing
was just being Cox when Cox is in the hospital.
When we work together, you know, I was very excited
to work with the man. I thought it was I
and I love the way the story arc ends. I
love that we you know, he's trying to hide it

(37:49):
from everyone that he's in love with Carla, and we
figure it out, and you and I figure it out,
but she hasn't figured it out yet, and so which
is really weird. Just Carla not know that Johnny, she doesn't.
I feel like I feel like women know right away,
and so no, I think that's bullshit. I think a
lot of women are like, we're just friends, and I

(38:11):
want to be like, have you not seen when Harry
met Sally watched that ship? I think they say we're
just friends to push you into a friends into the
friend zone. Anytime a woman goes, no, we're just friends,
she knows what's going on, and I disagree. I disagree. No, no, no,
no, no no, no, no, wait wait wait wait wait wait
Before Joel answers, I want to say something I'm not

(38:33):
talking about. I'm talking about how many times have you
spoken to a woman, whether it be your wife or
a girlfriend or someone else in your life, and you go,
you know that guy, straight guy friend you have wants
to sleep with you, right, and they're like, what, No,
we're just friends. My wife doesn't have any straight friends.
Well back in the day, she might have, she does, no,

(38:56):
she doesn't, all right, well back in the day. Other
than you should I tell her that you want to
sleep with her? My would I'm just kidding. She find it.
But you know what I'm talking about. You, well, do

(39:16):
you know what I'm talking about. I do know what
you're talking about, And I think it depends on the person.
I don't think we can we can paint the entire
female gender as being aware or unawares. I think they
have definitely seen some ladies in their time, you know,
use the sexual attraction to their advantage and be like, oh,
I don't know, we're just friends. Were not, but they knew.
But I've also seen plenty of women who were just

(39:37):
like wait what because I just thought we were just vibing.
I thought your friends were. I think that when Harry
mat Sally is a really great articulation for this. It's like,
if you're friends for a certa amount of time, and
let's say you're a man and woman, and you're both
heterosexual and and let's say single at the time, I
just I just have trouble believing that one one of
those parties isn't attracted to the other. I agree with you,

(39:59):
I feel like somebody is always attracted. Look, I don't,
I don't. I can't. I can't sit here and say
I have you know, other than people colleagues that I
work with, I don't have like a girlfriend that I
called up And I'm like, yeah, of course not not anymore, dude,
you're married. It's inappropriate. But I'm saying back in the day,
now I wanted to sleep with them. Yeah, that's honest.

(40:23):
That's that's the honest to goodness you back in the day,
if I had a long way around the block to
get to that. But back in the day, if I
had a friend and she was a girl, yeah, and
she was attractive and you were attracted to her, she
didn't necessarily even have to be the hottest person on
the Listen. Friends, it's not about it's not about looks.

(40:45):
It's also about how the person you know makes you laugh,
and how they make you feel and stuff like that.
All of that goes into what's what's attractive to you?
You know what I mean? Like Zach, you aren't the
most beautiful man on the planet, but if you were
a female talking about female, we would got married. You
would have got married. I have the weirdest boner right now.

(41:11):
All right, should we get back to the episode. I
should probably take a break to take a break. I
gotta cool down, I gotta take a It's been brought
to my attention that Um, when we come back from
break Dan, that you've chosen the section of the song

(41:33):
that's the old one without them, and but before you
correct it. I've had people tell me on Instagram they
like it because they know it's not going to be
there and they do themselves to the song. Oh my gosh,
So you might be saying you did that on purpose.
And I find it amazing that the MM is so

(41:54):
important to everyone. I get it, I get it, I
get it. It's amazing to me that without it, some
of you get very upset. Well, I like our fan
our fan participation. I gotta tell you, they weigh in passionately, passionately.
You know, they were talking about today. Someone asked me

(42:15):
when you guys gonna do merch? And I said, oh,
it's funny. We were just kind of shooting the ship
about that. What do you guys want? And I had
like dozens and dozens of people saying they want Donald
on a beach towel. I would love to have you
on a beach towel. It's that episode. People. Well, no, no,
I don't mean stop no, I moved on from the homeoroticism.

(42:37):
I'm just saying, you're a cute face on a beach
towel would be delightful. Or a mug. I was thinking
a mug. That's your face, right, and then when you
pour hot water and it changes to my face, that's hilarious.
J Well you like that, right, that's hilarious. That's probably
gonna cost a lot of money. Yeah, that, you know,
it's funny. Most most podcasts. I didn't realize from podcasts

(42:59):
like merch was important, but I guess a lot of
podcasts sell like mugs and T shirts and then when
they I know. But when they add when I heard
ask us, what do you guys want to sell that? Like,
Donald were like, mugs, the change color tells tick is
like the most elaborate ship. They were like, well, we
were thinking mugs. Were thinking maybe like a pen? How
about like a button like that says fake doctor's real

(43:21):
friends on it. How about a button. I do like
the idea of T shirts and stuff like, yeah, I
have a very funny I just have funny. Ice was
laughing about funny merch ideas. I guess it's a T
shirt or a mug. Okay, I have a question, let's
get back to the show. I have a question. Is
it is it asking me to sing from Pipping? Because
I'm prepared? I warmed I was going to go into pipping.
But we can go into pipping after everything has its seas.

(43:42):
Hunt ahead, you want to go into now? It was
my audition song when I was a child. Okay, So,
for those who don't know, Zach Brath is heavily into
musical theater. He's so heavily into musical not really anymore,
but go ahead. He's so heavy or he so heavily
into musical theater when he was a kid, he went

(44:03):
away to camp theater camp that was musical theater camp. Yeah,
called stage door Manor and my father. My father said,
as I was packing for musical theater camp, he said, well,
I I guess you don't need to bring a mint

(44:25):
a baseball mit. I was like, no, Dad, but hand
hand me over my my bend nine makeup kit because
we're gonna work on underry. We're gonna work on how
to do southern freckles. So because of that, when was
this something that? Was this something that you wrote? Was

(44:47):
this your joke that you wrote? No, but it's hilarious.
I mean it's a great joke. I wish I wrote it.
My son. I was most see my nephew tonight in Pippen.
Who's he playing? It's Alma. It's Alma's Delivery. Like the
Alma's Delivery has a little bit of like, how dare
you imply that my nephew is not the lead bit

(45:11):
Pippen in the In the original broad You're not gonna
know this, are you? Was played by Ben Vereen in
my career, No, No, the very good, very good funk
up and thank you for asking. The original Pippen was
played by Michael Weston's father, John Rubinstein. Wow. For those
who don't know, Michael Weston um played private dancer on Scrubs,
and he was in my film Garden Stadium. He was

(45:32):
in my film Wish I was here. He's a wonderful actor.
He was also in the other movie you did with
all those other actors, Casey Affleck and oh yeah, the
Last Kiss. He was in the Last Kiss. Michael and
I have done. We used to live together, a couple
of movies. You've done like four movies together now. Yeah,
Ben Vereen, best song in the show, join Us, leave

(45:52):
your feels two flower, join us, leave you cheese too,
so join us come and wasting our two dude Lee
do Illusion. So it's a really it's a really great show, um.

(46:12):
And it's about a guy looking for trying to figure
out who he wants to be. And it's very seventies
and very sexual. And I think Bob Fossey uh choreographed
in and uh. Anyway, So when I was a kid
auditioning for musicals like musical theater camp, I would do
one of pip In songs was this corner of the sky.
Everything has its season, everything has its time. Show me

(46:35):
a reason, and I'll show you a rhyme. Right pretty song. Wait,
let me get to the chorus for you don't pour us.
Get to the chorus. Do you remember it? Hold on,
shut up, Rivers belong with, they can ramble, Eagles belong
with Eagles, Eagles Eagles, eagles belong with, they can fly.

(46:56):
I've got to be where my spirit can run free.
Gotta find my corner of the guy Dan big round?
Can you do? Thunderous applause there? So, yeah, I did
go to theater camp. I loved it. Um It's actually
what started my acting career. And uh, you know it

(47:17):
was like you going to that that fame school. How
did you find out about theater camp? That's the question.
Like I didn't want to go to you know, I
was my dad was doing community theater and he's a lawyer,
but his hobby was he was always in the place
and he was amazing. He was you know, you you
knew my dad. He was charming and funny and he
was always always got the leads. So I would go
as a little kid and you know, eight years old
and watch my dad in the local play be the
lead and make everybody laugh. And I was like I

(47:39):
told you this. I was like, I want to be this,
this is a job, like I want to be a
part of this. And then the normal camp. Again, normal
camps had so much to do with like sports. It
wasn't like exciting me. And my parents were like, you know,
there are theater camps, and I was like, go on
and uh. I went to one called Bravo first, and
then that one closed down, and then I went to
a stage Row which is still alive and very very

(48:01):
much alive. It's like the most popular one. At twelve eighteen.
When I say to Elliott, I'm sorry, but you had
your chance with me, I literally said out loud, like
I told you. I've been writing down my my my
l o ls. I literally wrote down like that was
so fucked up to say that, And not only was

(48:22):
it fucked up, but it was just I mean, it's
totally fucked up, but it's so below the belt, dude.
It's who would say that. I mean, it's such a
dicky thing to say. And even if she's not even
if she's not jealous, you know what she turns out
to be at the end. What a dick dude, right,
What a dick j D was such a dick, but

(48:44):
it worked. Sucked up thing is that it works. But
let's not get ahead of ourselves. Fifty two Cox knows
your name, first time he ever knows its. Yeah, he
calls you Turk. He goes your name is Turk. That's right,
so right, right right, That's how he finds out I'm Turky.
Your turk? Got it? When you show up? When you
show up to the surgical consult? Do you remember this?

(49:07):
But do you remember it? You remember how I couldn't
get surgical consult right? And so I wrote the song
did someone call for a surgical consult? And I did
that for like twenty minutes before we sho this episode.
For this episode, because there was a tongue twister surgical consult.
Not only that, I just couldn't put together surgical consolet like,

(49:29):
I walked in the room a couple of times and
it was like, did somebody call for a And I
didn't know what a surgical consult was? And so because
I didn't know what a surgical consult was, I couldn't fat.
I couldn't put it together in my brain. So did
someone explain to you what a surgical consult was? No?
I just sang a song. See that's an interesting see
Donald has uh, your way of learning would be like,
I know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna turn that

(49:51):
into a song, and that's how you learned it. And
that's what I did. Yeah, I remember, I remember the
That was one of the first times in the show
where I was like, I'm costing the crew all of
this time right now because I can't get this line right.
I went home and I know I studied this ship,
but for some reason, this this word sounds foreign to me,

(50:14):
and so because it sounds foreign to me, I can't
deliver it the way I want to deliver it. And
so I sang it over and over and over again.
And when I finally felt like I could throw it
away and it wasn't something that I had to think about.
No problem. That's good. That's a good trick. It's always
good to have these little devices. Yeah, well, we need them.

(50:37):
I have a device that I learned where if you're
trying to remember someone's name, you picture someone that you
know from your past who has that name in their
exact position and and and then you can you'll always
remember the person's name. Does that work? Yes? Okay, tell

(50:58):
you try it. If you're listening, you really got I
gotta remember this guy's name. I want you to pick
someone from your history. And let's say they're a barista
at the Starbucks you go through or whatever, and you
and you're like, oh my god, I've known this guy.
I gotta remember. Well they have name tax doesn account,
but you know what I mean, someone who you're like,
I really want to remember this person name. Picture someone
from your past. The weird and more eccentric, the better

(51:18):
in that exact spot, and then it'll lock in and
he'll always remember their name. I have played myself the
way j D played hisself when he was like when
he went home that night and he put roses on
the bed. Oh dude. I remember one time. I'm not
even sure if it was a definite thing, but this

(51:39):
young lady who I was dating at the time, and
we were pretty young, so you know, it took. It
wasn't like we were having sex, so we were leading
up to that. I she was like, yeah, maybe I'll
come over, and I was like, I'm gonna be romantic.
And I went to Pizza Hut because that's what I

(52:02):
had money for, and I got two personal pan pizzas,
and I put it on the floor in my room
at my mom's house. And I took the blanket off
of my bed and put it on the floor. First
of all, I cleaned my room also the blanket. I
don't want to talk about age, ages, ages and ages

(52:25):
is important at this point, important at this And I
put a blanket down. I got a brick to hold
the blanket down in the middle of the blanket and
put candles on the brick, lit the candles, set up
the pizzas with the soft drinks, and waited for her

(52:46):
to come over. And she didn't come. And when I
looked back, I remember calling her and be like, well,
you didn't come over, and she was like, I told you, well,
maybe i'd come over. And I took them maybe as
she's coming over. And that young woman's name Rihanna. And

(53:06):
that young woman's name was Beyonce Knowles. I I once
really liked the girl when I was living in Manhattan
out of college. And I'm not much of a cook,
but I asked my stepfather, who's a really good cook,
for a recipe to impress this girl. And so I
spent the whole day. This was the first date I

(53:27):
knew her though she was I knew her, but this
was the first time. I was asking around and we
were gonna meet at my apartment, and then I was
going to take her to Circus Lay. So I spent
money on like circus light tickets. I didn't have, you know,
I was a p a. I didn't have much money,
and I spent the whole day. I was so excited.
She came over and she was so upset, piste off
about her day and like rambling about her day and
yeah this happened, and my boss was She barely even

(53:50):
like acknowledged the fact that I had spent this entire
day making her dinner. Did she well, did you say
I spent the entire day? Maybe no. I didn't want
to be like I didn't want to rub it in,
but I was like, I made you dinner, like this
happens all the time when you're dating me, and and
you eat any of it. I think she nibbled on
it and was unimpressed. And I never really made anyone

(54:11):
food again. Did you take her to start? Yeah? I
did I, but yeah, I took a stark to Sili
and then I think, you know, she had a good time,
and I think I got friend zoned and then you
got friend zoned, So there you go. And since then
I never made anyone dinner again. Right here, let's take
a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. Guys.

(54:38):
We're gonna let the fan in now. Oh, what's up, guys,
real friends, Let's Joel do a formal introduction now that
we're all here. We have a Manuel still. He works

(54:59):
at a children's hospitals. Come on, talk on the show.
That's that's so amazing man. Thank you for being I
imagine you're you're out there being a front line worker
as we speak. Yes, yes, yes, um and um. You
know I wouldn't um, I'd be remiss if I had
an introduced my roommate who also works in the hospital.
He's an administrator to be a hospital system. Wow, you

(55:21):
guys are the perfect guest for the show, Joeled, were
good producing. You've got some solid guests. So what's it
been like these days in a children's hospital? Because you know,
we hear out in the world that children aren't getting
affected as much, but then, of course now we're hearing
in New York some are and what's it? What's it

(55:41):
like these days. Yeah, so, um, it's funny. So during
the height of the COVID epidemic, you know, we weren't
get as many kids, um at least not like so
I work in the I See you in the childrens hospital.
We weren't getting as much in the I See you.
But since UM, but now lately we've been getting you
know what they've been talking about then use the whole
just that make inflammatory response like post COVID type of things.

(56:03):
So that's like very interesting to see because you know,
weren't seeing a lot and people were saying kids weren't
getting affected as much, and now we're seeing them come
in with all these different um symptoms and UM. So
you know, it's it's a learning experience, but we have
seen something similar. It's similar to like that they're talking
about that we have an idea of how to like
treat it. But um, but it's just interesting to see
that it's popping up now. You know, our kids making

(56:25):
fullard I know there are something that didn't make recoveries,
but our kids making full recoveries. Like you hear about
patients that get COVID and you know, their bodies have
been pretty much destroyed by the virus. Yeah, what about
what the children? Are the children making the recovery with
this new thing. Yeah, so thankfully, Um, most of the

(56:49):
patients that I've taken care of personally have recovered. Um.
I mean, you know, there are some cases that I'm
sure have not gone our way, but for the most part,
from what I've been seeing personally, like, our patients have
been recovering and a lot of them have been doing
pretty well. When you went to nursing school, and you
obviously could choose any area, you chose, what I would
imagine is the most hardcore thing being an I see

(57:09):
you nurse at a pediatric hospital. I mean you must
have days where you're I mean, you must have days
where you're just emotionally crushed. So I I chose pediatrics
because when I was younger, I was you know, hospitalized
for a bit, and so I remember, like, you know,
all the nurses that took care of me, and so
when I became a nurse, I kind of wanted to
give back and take care of those patients. Um. And

(57:32):
it is very you know, emotionally heavy sometimes, but you know,
I work with such amazing people and you could always
rely on them, and then I got right here, who's
in a health field, so we could always talk to him, um,
and I got and I just let I have a
good support network of people that I could always talk
to and rely on if I'm feeling down. And you know,
thankfully we have more good days than bad days, and

(57:54):
so you kind of rely on those to kind of
get you through. Do you feel like the bad days
are behind you right now? As far as far as
what we're dealing with, I thought so. But with this
new you know, Kawasaki thing, we're definitely seeing more pace.
That's like, you know, I See You. We're having um
more of those kind of patients in there, but thankfully
a lot of them are doing good, so I I

(58:15):
remain hopeful still. So right well, I mean, I gotta
tell you, I've spent some time in I See You
because I had a very sick sister and a very
sick father. And you know, when these I C nurses,
they're they're like superheroes when you when you when you
have someone who's just so responsive and so on it,
you want to hug them because you know, by the
time you're in I See You, you know things are

(58:35):
pretty dire and yeah, and so I'm virtually hugging you
right now. You're getting a virtual COVID proof hug. I'm
doing it. It looks like I'm saying, what conduct is
a hug? What kind of forever hug? Oh god? All right?

(58:58):
Do you guys have a question for for us? We
were that's what we're here to do, to answer any
additions he's got. He's got a book. You know, we
have some people, we have some people, we have some
people come on Emmanual and we asked him, you have
a question the whole point of coming on the show.
And they're like, what what now? Now? Now Emmanuel pulled
out like Manul pulled out, Emmanuel pulled out a binder.

(59:20):
We go ahead. All right. So I know you guys
have talked about why you guys are doing the show,
bringing yourselves into the character and making it a little
bit easier to play. But one thing I wanted to
is there anything about the character that you played that
you brought into your own personal lives? Is there anything
about Turk that I brought into my own personal life? Uh? Yeah,

(59:46):
I brought j D. That's the best answer, actually, But
I brought out like think of like when you're adjusting
a picture and you can crank the saturation. Brought out
Donald's feminine side. You did that, you did because when
I first said Donald, he had a lot of this

(01:00:07):
love of musicals and being silly and shipped inside of him.
But he was his front was like yo, yo yo,
let school play basketball. And now looking at me's fucking singing,
pipping left and right. You know, I went to school
with a bunch of theater kids and stuff like that,
and I remember being like those suckers, a bunch of
theater kids, right, And now I looked back at it,

(01:00:30):
I was like, I wish I was a theater They
used to sing all these songs and stuff like that,
and I wanted to sing the songs. But you know,
I was a sucker. That was just a sucker. And
now I look at it and I'm like, you know, yeah,
so there is that. There is that. Uh. A lot
of the things that j D and Turk did as

(01:00:51):
best friends opened me up to be way more comfortable
around men than I was before. Are yeah, And not
to say that I wasn't comfortable around men, but you know,
it's different, it's way different. Now. You know what you're
more comfortable just being whoever I mean. I mean, obviously

(01:01:14):
correct me if I'm wrong, but what you're saying is
you're more comfortable just being whoever you are. I think
as young as young men, we have to put up
we always put up all these uh you know, obviously
I can't speak for the for the women's experience, but
as a young man, you feel like you have to
put up all these fronts like I'm tough, and I'm
straight and and uh and anything you did that was
likely slightly effeminate. You know, high school kids and middle

(01:01:35):
school kids were like, oh, you're so fucking gay and
all this ship. And I think what what I felt
with with what with scrubs and brought out in me?
And I think Donald was like, all right, I'm just
gonna be like whoever I am and be that. Yeah,
I and I knew that it was an issue for
other people. When I made a comment when playing basketball,

(01:01:57):
I made a comment like, you know, like I said
something and silly like my nipples are hard, and the
dude that I was playing basketball it was like, yo, man,
come on, man, man, what what what What's going on
with that? And I was like, oh, you have you
are not comfortable. You have your own issues. My issue,
that's your issue. That's a good answer to I don't

(01:02:20):
know if I get top Donald's answer, but I will say,
and this is not just because you're a hero. I
see you, nurse. I think I brought full on respect
for for what, even even though we were faking it,
what it's like to work in this profession, and such
a respect for for people who work in the medical
field and how hard it is. And Donald and I

(01:02:40):
had the luxury of pretending to be doctors and getting
the fun of of pretending to save lives and pretending
to come to the rescue and uh and now you know,
as a younger man when we're doing the show, I
didn't have that many experiences. But then after living many
more years and had more life experiences where I was

(01:03:00):
just pleading with medical professionals to save important lives. To me,
I think I had so much more respect, and especially
now with this COVID insanity and and people fighting back
against medical professionals. I don't know if you saw that
amazing shot of the nurse standing in the in the
in the crosswalk when when there was like an anti
COVID lock up protest. It reminded me of It reminded

(01:03:23):
me of the of the guy standing in front of
the tank. Yeah, and I just thought, I don't know.
I have so much respect and love for for nurses
and doctors and e m t s and paramedics. When
I was a kid, I wanted to be a paramedic.
I thought there's nothing more badass about flying on the
street and aniulants to come to the I agree with
that too. I take my health way more serious now,

(01:03:47):
you know what I mean. Before I was very afraid
to go to the hospital. There was something scary about
going to the hospital, especially as an African American male.
It seems like, you know, a out of my relatives
and everything. I didn't go to the hospital until it
was the last resort. It's the last thing that I

(01:04:10):
I've tried every home remedy I could do. Disinfection isn't
going away. I'm gonna fight it. I'm gonna fight it.
I'm gonna fight it. Holy cow, I can't feel my leg.
I think I should go to the hospital. Now you
know what I mean. I think while making scrubs, it
became all right, I don't need to be afraid of

(01:04:31):
because it's not They're not gonna kill me if I go.
I might die if I don't go, though, so let
me let me take care of what's going on, uh
with me as soon as it pops up. And then
I became a hypochondriact. I was at the hospital like
every five second. If I had a you know, if

(01:04:51):
my nose was running, I was like going to the
doctor real quick. I don't always thinks he has the
worst thing. He's that guy. I like, dude, it's a zi,
it's a tumor. They say, better to be safe than sorry, Right,
all right? Do you guys have another question for the
legendary Donald phase on? So Dr Cox was your mentor

(01:05:13):
on the show? Do you guys have like a mentor
in real life during your acting careers? Very good question.
So many, whether they've realized they were my mentors or not.
I have so many mentors. Bill Lawrence has been a
mentor to me. He taught me how to tell a joke.
I feel like I might have always been funny, you know,
but there's a process to telling a good joke. And

(01:05:36):
when you stumble on words that are meaningful for the punchline,
it makes it so the joke doesn't work. Uh, and
so because of that, Uh, I've been very lucky to
work with someone like Bill Lawrence, who really taught me
the anatomy of a joke and how to tell a joke.

(01:05:58):
He's one person, Denzel Shington my whole life, whether he
knows it or not. After working with him and remember
the Titans to uh. You know, he's always been a
hero of of mine and also a mentor. You know
his if you listen to interviews with Denzel Washington, and
you know, he's just a very deep mind and a

(01:06:20):
very very good actor. And so he's one of those
people that I've always looked up to. And when I
finally got to meet him, he's definitely a hero and
a mentor. When you were in that movie, did he
ever say any He gave one tip one time. Mostly
he led by example. He you know, he was very
hard worker, you know what I mean, and comes to

(01:06:41):
work prepared and to get you prepared, he'll run lines
with you over and over and over and over again,
right so that when the camera rolls you're ready to play.
But he gave me one bit of advice because we
were it's a bunch of young men were all in
our early twenties, and we're messing around on and where
you know, it's a movie about football players, and we're

(01:07:03):
doing you know, we're giving each other elbows and you know, uh,
pretending that we're punching each other in the face and
everything like that because we're all young men. And he
was like, you know, I did this movie Glory, and
I was like, go on, and he was like, there
was somebody in the cast who used to do what
you guys are doing right now. And I remember him
looking at me because I was very excessive about you know, one,

(01:07:26):
I played around way too much. Still to this day.
I play around way too much when working. And he
was like, and this dude would play around and he
would pretend to punch people in the face and act
like he was gonna you know, and he would be joking.
And one day he slipped and hit an extra in
the face, somebody who was you know, been around the
set and everything like that, and laughed it off and

(01:07:48):
he punched this guy in the face accidentally, but still
punched this guy in the face, and the guy started
crying and taking off his you know, jazz get because
he knew I'm about to kick this man's ass and
get fired. This is the end of me ever being
in this movie. And I've been here for a while

(01:08:09):
and I like these people. I'm about to kick this
dude's ask though, because he punched me in the face.
And the guy apologizes and apologize. It doesn't need to
go there, brother, No please, no, no, no, let's not
do this. Let's you know. And finally, you know, they
calmed the guy down and it's all right, don't worry,
let's work this out. But he was like, you know,

(01:08:29):
you guys are playing around so damn much. Somebody's gonna
catch a fence to this and get hurt and you're
not gonna be able to talk him back. So my
advice to you all, as he's looking at me, is
to shut this ship down. Stop doing this. And I
remember being like, you're absolutely right, because if I punched

(01:08:50):
that dude in the face accidentally, he's not gonna he's
not gonna care if it was an accident or not.
He's gonna be upset and want to break me up.
That's amazing story. And I just love that. Denzel was like,
so I did this film glory. Um, I would say
for me. I mean, the first answer is obviously Bill.

(01:09:13):
Bill Lawrence who created the show. He taught me so
much about acting and directing and how to the business.
You know, Bill's some people are good writers, but they're
not savvy about the business and how to navigate the business.
And Bill, Todd, Donald and I both a lot about
how to navigate Hollywood and how to navigate the industry.
And you're never on a job for nine years, so

(01:09:34):
it was like it was like grad school. We learned
so much over the course of nine years and a
lot of and to this day, when I have a
script that I'm writing, I gave it to Bill. When
I have a first edit of a movie I'm directing,
I showed Bill and he comes in and and gives
me really tough notes and uh and good notes. So
Bill first and foremost, and then I guess my my
my version of the Denzel things. I just got to

(01:09:56):
work with Robert de Niro in the film, and he's
a he's a huge hero mind. And just watching the
way he worked and how humble he was and uh
and how he I just just being on set with
a legend like that, I felt like I was getting
I was becoming a better actor, and there were handful
of little things he did that I like, Oh, I'm

(01:10:17):
gonna try and do that next time. And and uh,
and he's just a huge inspiration to me. I love
I love that man, Donald. I'd give him another question
if you really they're they're very sorry, we're going along.
Let's keep it short because this show people don't want
to hear an hour. And this might be a little zach.

(01:10:39):
It's like week three months into COVID and uh, the
George hare is going extra long, So I need to
know your shampoo and conditioner. Well, here's the trick. I'm
gonna tell you something that some people, and some people
are gonna think it's nasty, But don't wash your ship.
Let it get dirty. Wait, shut up, baldy. You are
not allowed to wane in this conversation. I might not

(01:11:02):
have a lot of hair, but I have hair number
one number two. When he said ship, he meant don't
wash your hair. Oh yeah, and don't do you guys
use a washcloth on the shower. And we're having a
debate on the I used to use Yeah, because you're
a black man. Why why white people don't use washcloths.

(01:11:27):
Apparently speaking of that one thing we noticed we just
watched in the show, everyone got shoes on in the house,
sleeping the shoes on. What's up? I never slept with
my shoes on in the show. In the show because
we just watch you make out with U and I
had shoes on. No, not you will. I think in

(01:11:48):
the senior you talk about this episode that you that
we watched. Yeah, if Sarah Chalk throws you to the
bed and mounts you, you're not gonna be thinking about
your sneakers. Bro. Alright, Know, my hair, I I don't
wash a lot because I feel when I washed it,
I don't like the way it looks. But when I
let it have its natural juices, it has a nice

(01:12:12):
that's from coming to America. Dude, would you put in
your hair? Nothing? I just ket juices and berries. But
ultre alright. On that note, we're gonna go. Thank you
guys so much. Thank you, thank you, thank you for
thank you. Our pleasure, our pleasure. Wait, lastly, like we

(01:12:35):
gotta we gotta end this fucking thing. It's going so long.
But I do listen, I'm gonna get into your favor
I know, bro, I'm gonna get right into it. Do
you think I'm gonna miss your favorite topic. I'm just
putting it out there now. This episode has a Phantom
Menace dis in it, and I want to know you
and Joel Mr and Mrs A Star Wars thoughts on
the Phantom Menace this. I don't like that they that

(01:12:56):
they dissed the Phantom Menace, even though at one point
I was one who didn't. I didn't appreciate the Phantom
Menace as much as I should have. Dave Felony, Yeah,
the king that he is when it comes to Star

(01:13:17):
Wars talks about on this new uh Mandalorian documentary series
that they got gone, which I've been watching. It's really
As a director, you're gonna love it. You know. I'm
friends with not to name drop, but I'm friends with
Debra Chow who is one of the main directors of Mandalorian,
and he was She was telling me. She's like, Zack,

(01:13:38):
you gotta come see how we shoot the show, and
he's unlike anything you've ever seen. Dude, if you go,
please take me. Isn't she directing like all of these
is She's directing every episode of Obi Wan. Oh my gosh,
can you just tell her you have a friend. She's

(01:13:58):
the ultimate cool kid. I believe that they are doing
the Obi Wan's in the UK. I would live in
the I will travel, um. But she was telling me,
and I'm gonna watch the documentary because I've been hearing
about it that that Favreau took this technology that he
developed for Jungle Book and the other films and kind
of took it to the next level. It's amazing. Anyway, Valone,

(01:14:21):
he's talking about how in The Phantom Menace that movie
sets off everything, and I was like, yeah, of course
it sets off everything. It's episode one. He's like, but
in the in the documentary he's like, no, if Qui
gon Jin would have won the fight against Darth Maul,
Anakin Skywalker's path as a Jedi would have been way better.

(01:14:47):
Uh then if then what he was given because obi
Wan didn't look I know, it's got I just wish
the fans could see what I'm looking at. I'm totally
zoned out already. And Joel is furiously nodding, like Donald
is a preacher and she's in the choir. But look,
obi Wan Kenobi was never a father figure for Anakin

(01:15:08):
Skywalker and that was something that he was missing his
whole life, you know what I mean. He was born
from the Force, his mother wasn't with anyone. There was
no male that raised him. And if Quigan would have
won that far, if that father figure would have been
in place, and he would have grown to be a

(01:15:29):
better Jedi, and not necessarily so, when Quigan dies, that's
Anakin's first failure. Not his on purpose, but that's the
first thing that fails in his life. Then he loses
his mother, then he loses his wife, and now he's
freaking Darth Vader. And when I heard that, I had
already had an appreciation for The Phantom Menace. But that

(01:15:50):
makes the movie twenty times even better. Now, all right, well,
if you, if you're if you happen to still be listening. Um,
none of this is gonna make THEO. I think it
should because there's a lot of die hard fans just
like you two, and they'll probably love this. Star Wars
and Sex. I like that Star Wars and Sex are

(01:16:10):
married together in this episode. Okay, well, let's wrap this
episode up by talking about the big Elliott J. D. Kiss.
It's very exciting. It was I thought, Um, I was
I thought it was romantic and well written and well
shot and uh and and granted very well performed. Um
I thought, I think. I think right off the bat
you could see that Elliott and j D had chemistry

(01:16:31):
and um and it was it was. It was romantic
and sweet and I liked it. Yeah, I was gonna
say so far, this is one of my favorite episodes
that we've watched. And it's not necessarily the funniest episode,
but it kind of reminds me of John Hughes movie.
It kind of reminds me of, you know, the movies
that I grew up on, where the nerd in the

(01:16:53):
movie is chasing after this young lady this whole time,
right and his best friend is right there next to him,
his female best friend is right there next to him,
and he doesn't realize that his best friend is the
is the better is the better choice for him? And uh,

(01:17:16):
He's chasing after something that seems to be the right
idea and then at the end of it he realizes,
oh that was that wasn't that she wasn't what I
was looking for, And the best friend goes, I know
because I am Yeah, and I like that, Sarah, and
I like that Elliott made the move that I thought
that was kind of cool that she was the one

(01:17:37):
who stood up and and like went for it, like
she was the one who said no because I did.
I did. I was jealous. I was jealous. Yeah, and
then uh, you know it's it's it's meant to be
a little bit of an edit. But she she looks
like she pushes me down the whole hallway into the bed,
right like you stumble all the way I did, Like no,

(01:17:57):
I did like a fucking matrix, fucking ship down the
She pushed me like I was Kanu down the whole
hallway right on that note. Sorry, cut that ship out. Hey,
that was fun. Yeah, I wanted to tell our fans. Hey,
you can email Scrubs I heeart at gmail if you

(01:18:17):
want to ask us questions like those fun gentlemen did today.
And uh and hit us up on on Instagram, which
I think is the last bit of social media. Donald
and I are still reading. And we want to hear
what you think of the show. You want to hear
what you think of the show. We want to hear
what kind of what size Donald phaze on beach towel
you want? And uh and and Uh, we love you,

(01:18:39):
don't we Donald. We love everybody out there. I even
love the haters. I love y'all too, Yeah, because they
they the haters, they're your motivators. No, Hey, to motivate,
that's absolutely right, hey. Or motivate, that's right. Eight or motivate.
You know you can be on you're gonna do You're

(01:19:00):
gonna be a hater or you wanna be a motivated Listen.
Are you gonna be in the stands? Are you gonna
get on the motherfucking court and play? You got big dreams?
You want fame with fame costs? And right here, Si, no, no, no,
no no. I got one more thing to say, one
more thing to say. But can you can you say

(01:19:22):
it over my b bucks because I've been practicing my bucks.
Go ahead, tell me if there's a good beat for you.
We want to thank y'all listening to our show. And
on that note, you're gonna five six seven stories about

(01:19:43):
show we made about a bunch of nurses and stories.
Get around here, get around here, scrub free, watch your
wings and then daro mm hmmm,