115: My Bed Banter and Beyond With Randall Winston

On this week's episode of Scrubs, JD and Eliot attempt to carry out a secret relationship while at work. In the real world, Zach and Donald are joined by Scrubs Producer Randall Winston.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Memorial Day. We're recording this today, Memorial Day. We
should be at a barbecue together.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, we should be eating ribs. We should be Wait,
are you really trying wait, hold on, let me get
this straight going.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Are you really trying not to eat meat nowadays?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I am a pescatarian. I'm trying that out.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
When did you become a pescatarian?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
I watched this documentary that really got me inspired about
stopping eating animals besides fish.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
You sound like my dad. My dad is the same
way right now.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
The documentary was it's called the Game Changers. Is that
what it's called? Yes, game changers. So, but I've never
done anything. I love burgers, I love I love all
the shit we all have eaten our whole lives. But
we have all this time on our hands, right, it's
like an experimentation time on every front, right, Like you
can experiment with you know, I've been experimenting with all

(00:53):
sorts of things in my life. Is I'm sure a
lot of people have. And one was like, okay, well
let me just try this this during this time to
only be a fitter. And I do feel better, I
do feel healthier.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well that's great, but I know you're.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I know you're very meat passionate.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Donald.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
You know, I'm trying to stay away from the red meat.
That's the hardest thing to stay away from. It's so tasty.
So I've been trying to figure out different ways to
cook a chicken, and I've been doing that a lot lately.
But yeah, you're right. I do agree that too much
meat is bad for you, obviously, because you know, cholesterol

(01:29):
says something about that, blood pressure says something about that,
heart disease, colorectal cancer says a lot about that, you
know what I mean, And that's when you eat too
much red meat, usually or processed foods. I'm having a
hard time getting off of all of that stuff though.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I I gotta tell you last night we had a
fake burger.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
You had Beyond Burger.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
It wasn't one of the fancy ones. Beyond It wasn't
beyond it impossible. It was the only two names I know,
and we just got it at a supermarket. It was
a nice a nice brand. I forgot the brand, but
it was amazing. I mean, once you put cheese on
it and all the fixens and your spices, it's great.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
But once you put the cheese on it, you're no
longer prescytarian whatever it is that you're treescatarian.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's yeah, I'm I can eat cheese. I'm just not
eating I'm not eating meat. I'm not eating I'm not
eating any form of meat other than fish.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
All right, well should we sing?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
You don't seem happy. I want you to get happy.
You seem very dumb. You can't sing unless you're happy. Donald,
very old.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Song, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
You just you have a furrowed brow.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I am very happy. First of all.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Well, okay, well, let's let me see it. We're about
to bring on Randall Winston, one of the most exciting people.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm really excited, but I don't want him.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
To see you. Better turn that motherfucking bearded frown upside down.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I'm telling you something right now. Randall Winston is responsible
for some of the most happiest moments of my life.
So I can't wait to have him on.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Okay, well, then count these motherfuckers in five, six, seven, eight.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Motherfucker's here some story.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
I'm that show we made about a bunch of talks
and nurses and.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
He said he's a stormy so Yanda around you here,
YadA around here?

Speaker 1 (03:18):
WI No, there he is? Why is he wearing like
a gaming headset?

Speaker 4 (03:34):
That's the only headset I can find.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh my god, you're so inorgle.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
You can play an Xbox later, buddy.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Did we interrupt you from call of duty? Or are
you flying atop? Are you flying a chopper anytimes too?

Speaker 4 (03:48):
A w.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Oh my god, we're so excited to have you on
the show. Yeah, we hear you.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Just awesome. Yes, these are this is my son's gaming
heads I knew it.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
By the way, this is gonna be I wish the
audience could see Randel is wearing a gaming headset. But
if you don't play games, picture a helicopter headset and
he's in his beautiful garden and he's wearing his kids
gaming indset.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well that literally is it?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Literally is a game lights up? I love it? I
love it.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
How are you man?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
How are you? Randy?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
I am fantastic, I mean, of things considered, I'm great.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
You know, congratulations on your pickup.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yes we did.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
We didn't get picked up, Randall, but.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
I didn't know you didn't get picked up. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's all good.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
ABC decided not to go further with Emergents, but better news,
ABC decided to go further with Mixed Dish, which is
Randall's show.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Now, let me get this straight.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Randal, you're executive producer on the show.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Now that is correct.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Look at you man started.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
At a rand We gotta go back because Randall's career
is on and I think if for people that want
to go into Hollywood, Randall is a really exciting case
of someone that's on Fuego right now.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, not only is Antuego. I remember a video. I
don't know how I saw this video, but it was
a video of you pretty much manifesting your destiny, you
know what I mean, saying this is what I want
to do. I want to move to Hollywood. I want
to be a I want to be a big time producer.
And you know, and you're very young in this video too.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
I don't know how I saw this video.

Speaker 7 (05:31):
It was it was posted by a friend of mine.
It was we were like it was our twenty first
birthday or something like that.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
This is a.

Speaker 7 (05:39):
Girl who I met on the journey to Los Angeles.
We met at a rest stop in Oklahoma and became
life for friends. We were on our way to come
find our dreams. And she was very into documenting everything
and Donald, I can't believe you saw that.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
That's that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Donald and I are very into well I don't know, Donald,
I think you are, but I'm very pro right now
manifesting your shit and making everything happen. My friend, our friend,
Amanda is missed like whiteboard and writing everything down. And
actually I became friendly with John Legend's manager. I think
I've told you this story, Donald, who said that everything

(06:16):
that John Legend has accomplished they put on a whiteboard
when they were kids, like out out of college, and
they were like writing down, like they were laughing, like
I don't know this many Grammys and cover a Time
magazine and they were just like cracking each other up.
And She's like, every single thing we put on that
whiteboard happened.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, John Legend got an egot.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
He's got well, Randall's gonna get a fucking egot, especially
for his acting skills.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Oh boy, here we go.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
No, we had to get into it because Donald called
me out to Randall saying that I dissed his work
as death in the show, and Randall texted me very
upset about his work. Is Death being criticized.

Speaker 7 (06:57):
I mean, I think I played the part that was
required of Death. And I also, you know, death is
not the only role that they played on Scrubs, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
No, you also well, we haven't gotten to the to
the security guard yet.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
He hasn't been introduced yet.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
The hook the hook handed security guards.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Oh, I forgot that you were the hook handed security guard.

Speaker 7 (07:21):
Leonard who had letter Leonard who had tens of fans?

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Randall, how many episodes did Leonard do? Do you think?

Speaker 7 (07:31):
I don't know exactly how many episodes he did, but
I will tell you this, all fans that wrote to me.
So many people from Men's prison got some sort of
treat assigned script or something from Scrubs.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
So you were you weren't able to you weren't you
were able to do it and not get carpor tunnel,
is what you're saying, because there's only like tens of them.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Exactly would you really give fan mail?

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah? Yeah, I got like not a.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Lot, but you got more fan mail Leonard or death.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Leonard? For sure.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
All right, let's go back to the beginning.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yes, let's start at the very beginning.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I tried to do that with you manifesting your destiny.
But at some point things changed for you, Like you
lived in New York for a little bit and then
you moved to Los Angeles. Can you just tell us
how it all started and how you got connected with Bill,
and how this became and how this all trans sent
it into scrubs.

Speaker 7 (08:35):
Yes, the truth is Bill and I met socially first.
As a matter of fact, on scrubs. We kept a
graduation photo in Turk and JD's apartment and told everybody
that was our graduation picture. But we really we met
on the basketball court. I had an I had an
old room, so I had I had driven out from

(08:58):
the Midwest, you know, I trying to trying to find
my dream, got to Los Angeles, snuck onto all the
lots in town, got myself a job, and I started
creating my circle, you know, your chosen family, your la family,
and a guy who was my best friend, who I

(09:19):
lived with, a guy named Greg Malon's who went on
to run friends, and how I met your mother, and
a bunch of other stuff. He and Bill had this
played in this Saturday game and invited me to play
a few times. And that's how that was how I
originally met met Bill. I went from working for a

(09:42):
guy named Gary Dave Goldberg. That was my very first job.
He's the guy who created Family Ties.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (09:49):
He was amazing. He was an amazing mentor and he
had taken Bill under his wing. So so Gary is
in some ways the reason that we started working together.
And the first show we did together was a show
called Champs. That was the first show we did together
and Kevin Neelan was in it, and it was it
was DreamWorks very first TV show.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
So that kind of okay.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Just to so Kevin Nielan, who Zach remembers being at
the first party we ever had in our scrub up.
That's why Kevin Nielan was there, Zach. He wasn't there
because he was a fan of the show. He was
there because he worked with Bill and Randall.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Okay, well he may have been a coincidence, but okay,
I'll hear you.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Randal V. Froze, are you still there? Oh boy?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
And that was when we lost Random.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh god, what are you drinking there?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Mamosa, little Mimosa.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Memorial Day, Yeah, buddy. The think about Memorial Day is
it's just another weekday that you can rationalize it's okay
to drink early. Yeah, in this day and age, it
doesn't feel any different. My girlfriend was like, it's a
memorial day. I'm like, how is that going to be
different from any other day that we're living in hibernation
right now?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, a kid can drink.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, the kids don't have to get on zoom today.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Okay, I guess if you have kids, they don't have
to get on their zoom things.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
But but today is a is a day where you know,
my wife looked at me, it was like, you're drinking already,
and I was like, it's it's.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
A memorial day.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
It's a memorial day.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
So did she then join you?

Speaker 4 (11:26):
No?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
She did not. She was like, you're an alcoholic.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I was like, oh shit, be like, baby, it's a
memorial day.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
And on that note, I'm going upstairs to do my podcast.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Randall says he's resetting the Wi Fi. Oh god, that's
that's that's unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
You know, we lost all the momentum of blowing this
guy up. We're gonna have to regenerate it.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
We're gonna have to regenerate it.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
We're gonna have to regenerate our Randall blow up.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
He said, fucking Spectrum.

Speaker 8 (11:56):
I just had my dad switch off of Spectrum for
the same reason that shit is do.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Trum is bad. Dan, you don't support No, guys, I
want you to listen. This is a very very technical
man here, and he's saying fuck Spectrum. So if you're
choosing a provider, listen to Dan.

Speaker 8 (12:10):
The only way that I found that you get good
internet service is if you just switched from provider to
provider every year or so. Because they don't reward loyalty.
There's no like your bill is reduced, your service is better.
It just gets worse and worse and worse, and they
want to keep getting new customers. So I have gigabit
Internet a thousand megabytes up and down for seventy five
bucks a month, which is the cheapest Internet I've ever had.

(12:32):
And it's just because I switched.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I What are you using now, Dan, AT and T
and T All right, Well, guys, you're hearing it a
year first that Dan really recommends AT and T. It's
really about you can work the companies against each other.
If you're constantly quitting one and saying no, fuck off,
you suck, and then they give you a better rate.
So if you have the time, which you do now,

(12:54):
you two can have fancy fast internet like Dan Randall
welcome back, blowing you up. And then you had to
do a Wi Fi problem.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
All right, so let's get back into it.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
So you let's just jumped to in the spirit of time,
let's just keep this moving. You start work on Spin
City with Bill, and you hit it off. You become besties.
You're partying around the city. Your young men in Manhattan go.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
From LA.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
How did you get from LA to Manhattan? How did
that happen?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well, we're playing Donald no doubt, fuck you man the fight.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
If I could reach through this right now.

Speaker 7 (13:31):
Uh, you know what, it goes back to basketball. We
came off to the basketball court one night playing and uh,
Gary and Bill pulled me aside and they said, you know,
we just wrote this pilot.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (13:43):
We sent it to uh. We sent it to Michael J.
Fox and they said, there's a character. The mayor is
named after you. I think your mother would be very proud.
Had Mayor Randall Winston and uhlaid by the Great Barry
box work and with the show Gut. We did the
pilot LA, but Michael was living in New York and
said he would only do this series if we took

(14:05):
it to New York. So that was the opportunity of
a lifetime, you know, change my life. I got the
chance to go to New York. Garry took a select
group of people and Donald you know Sebastians.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Do you guys know Sebastian Gens.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
We moved.

Speaker 7 (14:19):
We all went to New York with all excitement, like
nobody was over anything. Everybody just was into going to
the city.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
You were, how old were you I was? I think
I was twenty nine. I think I turned thirty that year.
But Bill was.

Speaker 7 (14:41):
Bill's like a year younger than me, and he had
like the first American Express black card, and he would say,
you know, randall go out and find us in after
hours every Friday. So we were there'd be lines at
these after ours clubs and they're like, you know, absolutely,
we don't have any room.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
I'd be like, you got room now, motherfucker.

Speaker 7 (14:58):
Now Now I say, I say, I need two cases
of champagne and a private room. And that was just
the beginning.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Right now, I got to tell you something. Some of
my favorite moments, some of the best moments of my life.
I've shared with you. Rend You have been present at
some of the most special moments, some of the most
wildest moments, some of the craziest moments of my life
have been with you there.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Everything everything from partying in Vegas to marrying him and
his wife and everything in between, Randall has been there.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
He has been there.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
How many people have you married, Randall?

Speaker 4 (15:39):
U seventeen successful couples? Donald? What I said?

Speaker 7 (15:44):
I said, you gotta be serious, because everybody I marry
stays together?

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Right?

Speaker 3 (15:48):
How many? How many people have gotten divorced?

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Zero?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
You got a good streak.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
I don't have people messing my streak up.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Now, Now, Randal, if I'm listening to this, I was
preparing for this, and I thought, if I'm listening to this,
and I'm interested in production, but I don't know anything
about it. I see in the credits all the time
a line producer, but I see exec producer, I see
associate producer. I see all these titles. Could you explain
to people that I have nothing to do with the
business what a line producer does?

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yes, yes, it is.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
It's true that the TV credits are lousy with producers
and usually if the credit is line producer or produced
by That credit is reserved for the person who is
essentially responsible for keeping the train running on time, making
sure that you've got the right group people in the

(16:42):
right place, making sure that the show is on budget,
that it is getting delivered on time, not just within
the time constricts of your time slot, but delivered the
day that it's supposed to be delivered, you know, sort
of soup to nuts. That it starts with the prep
which is, as it sounds, the preparing of the show.
When you first get a little bit of information about the

(17:04):
about the series and each episode, you know, you start
to break it down with your team. You know, how
many actors are we going to need, do we need
to build sets? Are we going out anywhere? And what
is it going to take? And I think that job
at its best is a negotiator and a translator. You know,
that's somebody who you know, oftentimes it was between I'm

(17:28):
working between Bill on scrubs, between Bill who created the show,
and the studio and the network.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
So everybody's getting what they need and.

Speaker 7 (17:39):
Even when they're not speaking the same language, or figure
out what the best thing to accomplish what's in the
script is can be accomplished within the box that's been built.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, and the line bruisers also, if you think about it,
the keeper of the purse in a sense that when
you're directing or show running, you will often think, oh,
I think we should I wrote this big scene, would
be great to shoot it in this amazing restaurant. And
then I want to get a crane outside that's gonna
come down here, And then it'd be cool if it
was raining outside. And this is when the line producer

(18:14):
starts to sweat, when we start to go, wait, we
need rain, need rain.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
Every every time, every time Zach got a directing assignment,
before there was even a script, he could come here and.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Say, I need a crane exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I don't even know what the fucking script says, but
I'm gonna need a big ass cran. But so it's
the line producer's job, almost like a parent, to be like, look,
you used a dollar and you got your candy bar.
You should have saved it and you could have gotten ice.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Cream, Yes, right, I could have. You could have you
could have one big thing or two little things, right right.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
And a lot of times it's negotiation, like you like, hey,
you know, they're keeper of the money. But in terms
of the money, it's not just the camera gear, but
how many crew, how many extras are you're gonna be
able to afford? Are you gonna be able to do
any overtime? All of that is off into the relationship
I often have with the line producer. As they say it,
think of it like a Chinese food menu, in that
you're choosing from a myriad of things that you can have,

(19:09):
but you can't exceed that budget. So if you do
want a big ass crane, then maybe you can't have
as many background at the wedding.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
It's so funny that you say that. I, oftentimes it
crossed my career have literally made a Chinese menu for
directors and producers, you know, because you inevitably get to
a point and Bill and I used to have, you
know something back then it was like the thousand dollars deal,
which was once we had locked the budget, he was

(19:38):
not allowed to bring me any.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Problems that cost more than one thousand dollars.

Speaker 7 (19:42):
Like I could figure it out, you know, if it
was a thousand or under. But you know, you can't
be adding stuff once we're once we started rolling.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Now on screen. Back in the day, we would do
a lot of overtime, which which now people don't really
do anymore, right, I mean on your jobs now, are
people pretty much keeping it to twelve hours these days?

Speaker 7 (20:01):
It depends, really, I mean for the for the most part, yes,
but a lot has changed. You know, we did for
a big chunk of that show a true single camera show,
which is almost all shows have more than one camera
rolling at the time now, so you can get more
work done within the hours you can get you know,
for those who do people you know that just between
single and multi like usually on the single camera show,

(20:23):
you're getting one angle at a time, shooting one actors
close up, and then you turn around and get the
other actor, and the more actors in a scene, you know,
the more times you're turning, And if you have multiple cameras,
then you can get multiple shots.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
But on a show like Mixed Dish, you know.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
Or you know, American Housewife or any show that's got
a family, you know, family show as opposed to community,
you're up against kid hours. So those shows in particular
are held to a bricter standard.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Powers I'm gonna be honest with you, I love it
when kids are on the show now and you're working
the show because you're not going past twelve hours. Dude,
you might not even do eight hours that day, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (21:00):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
I did love so I did emergence this uh this
last year didn't get picked up ABC.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
You were great in it.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Donald, by the way, you were great in that show.
I think we should pour some out for emergence of Emergence.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
But I remember we had two very young ladies on
the show and they were in school, and once they
showed up to set, we had the clock was ticking.
We had eight hours to get them done or they
would they turned into a pumpkin.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
And so.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I used to love that. It would be like, are
the kids working today? And they'd be like yeah, and
I'd be like, great. That means I'm done before you know,
I'm done before the sun goes down. Is when the
kids weren't working that you were like, oh my god,
I'm gonna be here forever. Well, random, you.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
See kids on there, you can make it right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Right, You'd be like, I can make that eight o'clock
movie tonight.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Randall, you and I always got along so well. You know,
sometimes the relationship between a director and a line proderher
could be contentious because the director feels like, oh, you're
taking away. You're not you're not working with me, you're
not making it, you're not helping me realize all the
things I want to do. Of course, the line producer
has a stressful job. You're like, dude, you're killing me.
You're so over budget, what the hell are you talking about.

(22:10):
But but when the two are friends and they feel like, hey,
let's work it out, then it then then it never
gets contentious. But of course sometimes when people don't get along,
the line producer and the director don't always like each other.

Speaker 7 (22:22):
Well, I think that uh it has been to the
great benefit of my career in general. Part of it
is just I think the way that I like to
work is that the goal is to be symbiotic. Like
you know, when people think that it's contentious, it is contentious,
but you know, we're all rowing in the same direction.
You want, you want a great show. You want and
comedies in particular, you know, like I think about the episode,

(22:44):
not that the episode of ting About Day, but your
episode when you when you go into the puddle and
you see uh.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Se monster do you see a sea monster? It was
not a sea monster. Rand named Julian.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Julian. I love that you.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Said sea monsters. What was the sea monster's name?

Speaker 7 (23:10):
So that's a perfect example of that script had so
much in it.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
But that was the biggest joke in the show.

Speaker 7 (23:19):
And you know, we had to call the city and
get Diggler and it was the first time I got
to use a Jack Cameron and we're like digging holes
in the parking lot and creating a swimming pool that
we're gonna have to fill in. But but the question was,
you know, is this one of the funniest things.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
In the script.

Speaker 7 (23:35):
What what are we what are we gonna give up
or combined so that we can keep that and that
trusting relationship, you know, with with with the actor, with
the director, with the writers, you know, builds that thing
that you're talking.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
And Ron and Renald you're the kind of person that
was like so on board. You'd be like, oh my god,
we have to figure out we have to figure out
a way. I know because I think that I think
that gag, which involved building two different small swimming pools
to code because the city was not gonna let anyone
not do it to code was one of the most
expensive gags in Scrubs history, as I recall.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yes it was, Yes it was very expensive.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
But that's you're right, Zach. That's a very important point.
If you have a line producer who's game, and it's like,
I can figure this out. If you work with me,
we can figure this out, You're gonna get some of
the best stuff, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Of course, of course I was so worried about Randall
was he wasn't you know some of these guys and
gals are sitting in office and they're rolling your eyes
when you walk in. Randon was out there with the
jackhammer being like, I can't believe O're building is.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Totally true? All right?

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Should we get into the episode. Let's get into the episode. So, Randal,
this one is supersized. Let's talk about that very rare.
Most episodes thus far in the show are been twenty
two minutes without commercials. This one is twenty eight, which
is a bit big leap to supersize.

Speaker 7 (25:01):
Right, It was a big It was a big issue
at the time, this show with the pizza clock as
we as we called it. But the network was very
contemptous about this episode, and they did not rerun it
again in certainly not that season, and I don't think
for years because being supersized and it's a it's a

(25:24):
very thoughtful episode, you know, very emotional goes inside where
are where the characters are?

Speaker 4 (25:29):
And I think at the time, you know.

Speaker 7 (25:31):
We were still in season one and they wanted it
to just to be you know, more JD falling.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, exactly, they were like, what are you doing this
weird documentary style interludes? I mean, where's JD running into
a wall? And you know, but it's a great episode.
I just want to say. Written by Gabrielle Allen and
directed by Lawrence Trilling, who became one of our favorites
early on. He then went on to do Pushing Daisies

(25:58):
and Parenthood and I just googled now that he's on Goliath.
But super talented guy.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I think Lawrence Trilling and I did Felicity together.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
You did?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
You did?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
You did? Were we ever on Alias? Done?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
No? I was never on Alias?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Okay, well he also did Alias, but yeah, he directed
Young Donald Faison and Felicity.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
He's a really great guy, really fun, good director, and
Gabby got I love her.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Good team great team, and I just thought there's a
lot of style to this. So so there became this
convention a few conventions. There's the pizza clock thing if
you look down at the pizza guys in case you
didn't notice, the idea was that it was mimicking a clock.
And so as the episode is cutting between that one
night of Sarah and I in bed and then back

(26:45):
to the few weeks that follow us trying to date,
whenever it cuts back the pizzas trying to look like
a clock from that night. So there's that sort of gag,
the timeline shake up, and then there's these documentary stole,
shaky cam, grainy film as though we're all being interviewed
for a psychologist project on why people become doctors?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Right, all right, okay, well that's not I thought that
was the next episode.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
But okay, no, that's my bed banter. And beyond that's
like inter cutting Salen I and our big epic fuck
fest for lack of.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
A better term, I gotta tell you something, man, nobodd
miss that. Let's go back. Are you said the word?
And now I'm gonna now we can talk about it.
I guess I missed those days. I missed the days
when it was just sex all day, you know, before kids,
when you could just bone all day, then go out
to dinner that night and then bone some more. My

(27:47):
wife and I, you know what, we gotta make an
appointment now, and.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
It sucks, isn't in your eye?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Cow Dude, I'll be like, it's you think it's a joke,
and a lot of stand up comics have made this joke,
but it's real. You'll be like, how about sex Thursday?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Can we do Thursday? I'm having my hair done right, No, no, no, no,
no, no no.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
The kid's got zoom all day. I'm gonna be exhausted
by eight o'clock. There's no way. And Ozark comes on.
I gotta watch Ozark.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Okay, well, Jason Bateman, Jason Bateman is stealing your sex night.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Jason Bateman is fucking it.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Up for me right now.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I hear the shows, the good looking man, I hear
the shows great, but damn you, Jason Bateman. I just
wish he could get through the show already. I just
missed those days. I missed the days where it was
like and granted, I love my children and I love
having them in my life.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
But I just missed the days.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Of freaking waking up, boning, going to Hugo's to get
breakfast or brunch, right, brunch, whatever it is, coming back
home and being like, well, what do you want to do? Well,
we haven't fucked in like five hours, we might as
well fuck again.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Perfect Donald.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
I am sitting outside looking longingly at my blackout shutters
and how will you to use them?

Speaker 4 (29:06):
So much more?

Speaker 9 (29:07):
Right?

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Like craik it down, black out the bedroom and.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
And do what you gotta do right them? Days is
over them?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Days?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Is you guys are really doing a great ad for
having children right now?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
No, you should do it.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
It's great, It's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
As you both drink your white claw.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Now.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Elliott has said in previous episodes that she's never had
an orgasm, and she said that she doesn't like sex.
So is JD the first person to not only bring
her to orgasm but show her the wondrous world of
epic sex days?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
I'm sure you would like to think so.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
I think. Yes, I'm not JD. Donald, I'm Zach Braff,
but I'm character of JD. Probably was good in.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Bed well, you know, in the beginning of it all,
JD was kind of a sucker when he's like he
almost let her walk out of the house, and she
was obviously very much into JD.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Well, I don't know, dude, I disagree. I was watching
it with fresh eyes and I was thinking I couldn't
read where she was. Was she like, hey, I should go?
And then you know, you know what that's like back
in the day.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Do I hate that shit? I hate that shit?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Why to test? Why I gotta be tested for? How
come you can't just be like, you know what, maybe
uh if this was a mistake.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Was it a mistake though? Or did you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Like I remember saying to my wife when she was
my girlfriend, like, you know, I don't know, I don't
know if this is if this is working out, you
know what I mean, and her being like, you don't
this is Wait a second, this is the best thing
that's ever happened to you.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
What do you mean you don't know if this is
working out? Like that was real talk.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
The fact that JD almost had her out the door
before he was before she turned around and was like, yo,
just say you want me to stay and stop being
a sucker, stop being a a little punk about this.
Just say you want me to stay, and I'll stay
and we can go have sex again. And then he's
finally like will you stay? She's like, yeah, you gotta
pay for that though, because I almost will.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
But don't you remember back in the day when you weren't,
when you weren't in such a long term relationship. When
something's new and you're kind of insecure about it, You're like,
did this person have as good of fun as I did?
I don't want to be the one who put I
don't want to put my one. I don't want to
be the one who puts myself out there and and
and gets dissed. Like you're you're You're in a very
vulnerable state. You're like, I kind of like this person,

(31:31):
do they like me?

Speaker 4 (31:32):
You know? Well?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Did I ja?

Speaker 7 (31:34):
Do you?

Speaker 4 (31:34):
The character just wasn't he in the friend zone a
couple episodes before that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah they were? They were friend zoned?

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, like, uh, maybe seven episodes before he gets friend
zoned and.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Then he and then we gotta go to break. We'll
be right back with the legendary Randall Winster.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Random where instand is. We're very excited.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
We're very excited Randall's here. We're talking about sex. JD
and Elliott have an epic, epic twenty four hours of sex,
and it seems that JD has found a way to
bring Elliott all the way to the Promised Land because
she seems to be really enjoying sex.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well, the fact that they have it like six or
seven times is ridiculous. And she even brings up, I'm
gonna need a vagina transport.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, she says, she said, I need av giinant transplant,
which is a very funny fantasy. Cutting to the guys,
uh running through.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Don't go Bucks Boler.

Speaker 7 (32:40):
Randall was that they should have done the song vagainaa Bucks.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Randall was vagina transplant something that anyone was worried about
getting through the sensors because it seems pretty pretty risque
to have a vagina in a box.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
Yes, I remember there being like some conversation, but I
can't remember whether it was whether it was a lot
of crims. But the great thing about Scrubs was that
there was always something else to point at, like you know,
another red herring. I was like, well, we have a
giant in the box. But he says dick three times
two pages later, we'll get rid of that and let
us keep the giant.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
So part of Randall's job was was being Bill's liaison
to the studio and being like, listen, guys, it's just
one vagina in a box. We're not gonna have vaginas
in boxes every week.

Speaker 7 (33:27):
And and the and the great thing about about the uh,
the working with the person. There was a woman I
can't remember this if this was Sandy Christmas, it was
this Sandy Christmas. It was this very sweet woman who
used to have these conversations with So I'd get on
the phone and she'd be like, now, Randa, I packed
the vagina in the box, and you know, and then

(33:51):
you later say, Penis you know do we have to
have all of that in the show.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
And what's funny is they'll often give you they'll often
give you a sheet of all their objections and it's
a negotiation, and then even when you get it through,
they'd be like, Okay, we're fine with the vagina in
the box, Please do not show a vagina in a box.
Like even shit, You're like, really, guys, you had to
write that on the paper, like you think we were
gonna cut into a vagina on for NBC in the box.

Speaker 7 (34:19):
And sometimes they say sometimes they say stuff and you're thinking,
oh damn, you're weight dirtier than I thought.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Right now, that is not what we meant. This is
a true story.

Speaker 7 (34:31):
We had to go into the effects visual effects and
adjust Donald scrubs in a particular scene because they thought
were seeing too much of a bob.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Oh, that is how we do, Dan, how about thunder
and we do. Let's have some thunders.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Applause or as applause from my junk.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
And then Dan, if you wouldn't mind put him?

Speaker 7 (34:57):
That was I used to do a Loma at the
and most of my yes inspired me to just.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Go mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Whenever Nurse Roberts couldn't be at the table, read Randa
would would play her and his favorite part was doing her.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Speaking of speaking of Aloma. Holy cow, she's amazing in
this episode, very funny. Every one of her lines lands hard.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
White boys? Uh? You mean it was a secret all
of that stuff, everything that everything that she said in
this episode, I laughed out loud.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Now let's get ready into it right away, you know,
let's you know, the janitor sees Aloma and she sees him,
and she looks at him like get the fuck out
of my way and Randall, Bill is still hanging on
to his his his dream that the Janitor was only
seen by JD in season one and we we are

(35:52):
Donald and I are detectives that are quickly proving him
wrong in every other episode.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Yes, yes, I was.

Speaker 7 (35:59):
I never bought into that, that that he was a
figment of JD's imagination.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
It's mister Snuffles.

Speaker 7 (36:05):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and I remember he had because
there's some episodes later. I remember an episode I directed
where he has a group of henchmen played by our
grip team, you know in they are all in it with.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Him, and isn't his his side? He has two sidekicks,
Troy and Randall.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Right, yeah, Randall.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
I remember Randall played by Martin, played by.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Martin Martin, who was also in Oz the Great and
Powerful with me, and he was also in Pirates of
the Caribbean.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yes that.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Let's talk about Colleco Vision, which comes up at seven
twenty one. Did you have Collecovision either one of you?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
My friend had Calleco Vision, and I remember colleco Vision
being so awesome because the video games looked exactly like
they look in the arcade. So if we had Donkey Kong,
it looked like Donkey Kong from the arcade.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I thought that was the first thing.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
And you at first do you remember that game? I don't.
I don't remember the Smurf.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Well, if you were interested in video games, please go.
I'm sure on YouTube they can play you the theme
music from Smurfs on Cleacovision. And that jam was fire,
was it?

Speaker 9 (37:12):
La la la la la la la la la la.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Come on?

Speaker 3 (37:16):
That was the dope ship la.

Speaker 9 (37:18):
La la la la la la la la la la.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Ahead.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Let me, let's put it this way. If jay Z
can make a song from Hard Knock Life, Yes.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Dude, do that again and I'll kick in my beat
box and we got a jam halfway there.

Speaker 9 (37:33):
Hey, la la la la la la la la la
la la la la la la la la.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
La la la la.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Dam And you're gonna have to line that up with
some delay. But we I think it's fire, and I
think we can beat a Hard Knocked Life.

Speaker 7 (37:56):
You you did me that Donald On set you to
do Transformers as a dude.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Late Neil Diamond, Neil Diamond singing Transformers. I thought I
did it already, but if I haven't, if you missed it,
Transformers more than meets the eye. Keep going, keep going,
bus face their battles to destroy the evil forces of

(38:25):
the Decepticons.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
By the way, Neil Diamond's your best impersonation. You also
do a pretty good Uh, I don't know how much.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
My well, you do a better version of Aaron Neville
than I do.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I mean, here, mine's trash that maybe yeahs is way
better than mine, way better than mine.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
There you go. That's the extent of our impressions. Gleco
Vision great game system. I felt like a baller because
I had it, and uh, you know, I remember that
control was like it was like a long rectangle and
then there was the.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Circle on the bottom.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Not to be confused within television, which I didn't have.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Or in television. Wow was it in television? It was
Kalico Vision.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I start with the Atari twenty six hundred. I remember
that everybody had that.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, and then.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
There was Kalovision. Go ahead, Randall, I feel like the
guy with the gaming head that you weigh in.

Speaker 7 (39:29):
But this makes me said one hundred years old. I
am currently doing a puzzle during COVID that is all
of the original video games Atari and like, yeah, so it's.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
I need that puzzle. We we got a Van Gos
Starry Night and we are not even getting anywhere near
to starting it. But I feel like if it was
the old game consoles, we've had it done already.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
I'm sending it to you.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
There's an Alf mentioned in this show ALF. I was
a huge fan of ALF when.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I too, Max, Right, what do you doing out?

Speaker 2 (40:03):
The puppet from out of space who loved to eat cats?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
I remember being a little kid and the trailer teaser
for ALF came on and I remember being a little kid,
my first film critic going that looks so stupid. Cut
to me loving Alf, like having alf stuffed animals?

Speaker 7 (40:20):
What was not to love about ALF? I visited the
ALF set, you did, I remember?

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (40:25):
That was it raised up so they could have a
puppet teer.

Speaker 7 (40:28):
Yes, And it was like it was It wasn't at
a real stage. It was at uh an a warehouse
in Culver City.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Is I Paul Max Wright, who was who played the father,
who was an accomplished theater actor and Shakespearean actor and
genius act all around fucking hated it. I think that's
part of the lore is that he absolutely hated doing
a puppet show.

Speaker 7 (40:51):
Now, did you did you watch all the Alps? We
were religious elf because.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
There's episodes on Mitch. I mean, I'm not ready to
do the rewatch podcast, but.

Speaker 7 (40:58):
There's a there's a very special ALF where I remember
mostly is crying during alf.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Alf would to visit the girl in the hospital. It
was like, you know, tonight on a very special alf.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Do you remember when they would do you remember when
they would like back in the day, for those of
you who are too young, they when there was a
sad like on Scrubs. We had sad episodes all the time.
But on the old school sitcoms they would always warn you,
like tonight on a very special Silver Spoons, the ricker
will the ricker will kill a deer. We recommend and

(41:31):
they would go, we recommend parents watch with their children.
Do you remember that for sure?

Speaker 7 (41:35):
But on Scrubs, if it was sad, we just would
play the theme song a little.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah, So there was silver Spoons when the wrecker killed
a deer, there was different strokes. When Dudley got molested
by the bike shop owner, remember that.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
I do remember that and everything happened to Dudley or Arnold.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, and then I don't know what happened on Alf,
but I don't know if they made the announcement, it
must have been serious.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Special episode of Alf.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Alf learns to touch himself.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Oh boy, oh boy.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
But you can't handle it. I used to have an
alf stuffed animal, and uh, well, never mind without that, man,
it sounded like I fucked the doll. I didn't.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
I just I just it did sound like you were
about to say it sounded like you were about to say, yeah,
I fucked the doll.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Did Alf have a tail?

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I don't know. No, No, no, he did not.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
I don't think so. Well.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Can you please look up if Alf had a tail?

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Alf did not have a tail.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
You're feeling really confident about that.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
You didn't see.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
You didn't see Alf's ask that much.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Okay, let's talk about how well Johnny does in this episode.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, in the monologue, in the monologue section, everybody's great.
In the oh, Joelle, what you look? Your face lit up?

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Alf does have a tail?

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Donald, You fucking liar.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I just don't remember out for the long terilt.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
No, it's like a dog's tail, and it only because
you can see him like he's looking out the window
in a single shot.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Listen, but I want to see if the album.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
I barely remember episodes of Scrubs. How am I supposed
to remember Alf?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
He does have a tail, so I have a memory.
I think what I was trying to say with the
stuff animals, I used to pull Alf's tail through his
legs to make it look like it was Alb's.

Speaker 10 (43:25):
Peenis Oh my gosh, all right, all.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Right is good in this episode? Yes, he's not.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Only that.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Before we do that, let's go back a little bit.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Uh, I didn't know that Kelso's actual name was Kelso Kelso.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Kelsanovitch. Yeah, well, I don't think that comes up again.
But this is the first episode where he introduces his
wife's name, Enid.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Right, And I thought that was just very interesting that,
you know, he changed his name to fit in to
be to sound more American, so instead of kel Sonovich,
it then became Kelso.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
I think everybody did, including uh, Donald Faison and Judy
and Sarah. Everybody was great in these monologue sections. They
were Oh, it was kind of a cool. It's funny
because that documentary style became very common in shows like
the Office and a modern family that were doing sort
of the shaky cam documentary style. Was not a style

(44:30):
we did on Scrubs. But because of this segment, I
don't know why the interviewer was so hirky jerky with
the damn camera. I mean, put the fucking thing on
a tripod and calm down.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
But it was the.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Interviewer was making like his own shaky cam TV show.
But I thought everyone it seemed like the mandate was
that they were not going to have cuts in them
and they would all be long takes and yeah, and I
thought everyone did a really nice job in those scenes.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Do you call it? They prepared us for that, because
the fact that I knew my lines like that was
very weird yourself. I'm watching it and I'm like, they're
gonna cut soon, because there's no way I remember all
of this.

Speaker 7 (45:06):
We talked about it a lot, and we knew it
was gonna be one take. If I remember correctly, those
are half the monologue that we did. I mean, part
of the reason why the episode is so long is
because those chunks. And I remember Johnny c I feel
like he was disappointed because there was another long take.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
You know, So even though this episode is what do
We Say?

Speaker 7 (45:28):
Twenty four eight twenty eight, twenty eight, I think the
editor's cut was closer to forty.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, and there's a really cool section later on where
Donald and Judy are side by side and they're still
not cutting, so they were able to time out. I
don't know, was Judy in the room reading with you? Donald,
do you remember?

Speaker 7 (45:45):
No?

Speaker 2 (45:45):
That was it. They gave us earwigs, I think for that, because.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Earwig, for those who don't know, is a tiny ear
piece that goes in your ear that you can't see
the camera can't see.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I remember rehearsing it with the voice track. I think
they recorded Judy first. I could be wrong, though, I
think they recorded Judy first and then I went in
after her to record.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Well, the timing of that was perfect because you you know,
you had to stall, so you were like thinking and
then you took a sip of your water and like
it totally looked natural, but it was. It was well
done by by Larry trilling.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Trilling Man, that was one of the that was one
of the highlights in my notes that I wrote. You know,
this was his first episode to direct for us, and
we gave him a pretty you know, you guys gave
him a big Randall and you and Bill gave him
a pretty big episode to produce. I wondered if it
was ever like, Yo, what money do I get to
make this go easier for me? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Like, I'm guessing he was told that it was going
to be a long one because right Randall or was
it was decided after the fact.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
It was decided after the fact.

Speaker 7 (46:52):
We didn't know it was going to come out, but
we knew from timing the table read that we were
up against it and that we didn't want to make
cuts in those you know, soliloquy pieces, you know, directly
to the camera. For some reason, I feel like production wise,
there was just a lot of talk about the pizza clock,
like getting the right angle and how much pizzad it
take out. And you know, we were we were in

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that bedroom for so long, which was a tight set.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yeah, and Sarah and I, you know, we were friends
and we really loved each other. But that was a
very bizarre thing to have that much fake sex all
over one set for many days on end.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Well, yeah, not just that, you guys were very much
in each other's face. I was going to ask you,
you guys made out a lot in this episode. Yeah,
how awkward was that for you?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
I think it was, Uh, you know, you always hear
actors talking about, Oh it's you know, it's all very
you know, choreographed, and it's not weird at all.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
It is weird.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
You know, there's everyone standing around, you're making out with
your good friend. Uh, it's you know, it was. It
was bizarre. I remember being because also a lot of
most times, like okay, there's a quick makeout scene. It's
a TV show, you know, That's that's all it ever is.
This was like, you know, wrestling around and groping each
other and for days.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
So it was.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Weird face to face and not only face.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
To fanaka Donald you gotta have Banaka. We had a
boom man named Kevin what was his last name? Randall?
Do you remember?

Speaker 4 (48:22):
I can't figure it right now.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Also hires the whole crew everybody, so he should really
know Kevin's last name. But Kevin used to see that
we all used to have banaka. This is like back
in the day still that we had like spray the
aerosol banokam and uh we made a joke like oh,
it'll be great because the boom mike's right over your head.
We're like, it'd be great if there was a boom
if there was banaka on the boom, because then we
can just reach up, pull the boom mic down and

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grab it off. Next day we show up and he
had velcrowe a banaka to the end of the boom mic,
not not the mic itself, the stick and poll and
Kevin santy, thank you and uh and and literally he
wasn't just a joke. He kept it up there for
like months, and whenever you need a banaka, you just
reach up, grab the boom pole, pull it off to
a spray. They'll crow it back and stick it off.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
I used to go crazy with the banaka because I
felt like, maybe if I spray enough in my mouth
the aarosol and the freaking mint will get me high enough.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
When your weed was wearing all, so Donald this weed
had worn off and he was on set too long.
He's like, let me try and get high on baca.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
I remember one day Randall came into the room.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Randall, tell me if you remember this, and you were
like Donald and we were on set and you were like, Donald,
wake up. Do I need to splash cold water in
your face and something wake the ass up when you.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
High or something? No? No, no, no, no no no no.
But in my mind I was like, they.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
Know, they know.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
It's probably because you were taking too long to get
to set.

Speaker 9 (49:51):
No.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
The only time I took a long time to get
to set was when Grand Theft Auto Vice City came out.
And I remember one time they were trying to get
me the set and I was on my way out
the door and Randall's pushing my door in as I'm
pulling it, and I was like hi, and he was like,
get upstairs, random.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
You had to be bad cop.

Speaker 7 (50:14):
I had to get with the gripe. Yeah, grabbing people,
steer them. I remember sending a PA to your house
one time, Zach. Somebody had to climb over the fence
to get you to like, wait, it.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Was a really bad moment. Know what happened was the
power What had happened was the power went out. The
power went out in my in my on my street
or my neighborhood, and so the alarms didn't go off,
and and also the phones didn't work, and so I
woke up to a PA knocking on my window. And
which is the worst sight if you're an actor. It's

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like the most horrible feeling. And I remember getting to
set really late and Bill looked at me and he's like, no, no,
don't worry, we'll split the fifty grand.

Speaker 7 (50:55):
I think during scrubs I had a real moment of
peace about producing, which was I gave up on the
idea of everything being okay for more than five minutes
at a time, because nothing's ever always okay. It's like,
and nobody comes to my door to be like everything's great.

(51:16):
It's like, you know, somebody took my candy. We don't
have any film. You know, somebody's late.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Did we ever run out of film?

Speaker 4 (51:25):
We came, We came close.

Speaker 7 (51:26):
We used to a lot of short ends one particular
week because part of the reason that we were able
to fly under the radar financially, and one of the
reasons that that show is one of the last shows
to be on film is because we shot on sixteen.
We shot Super sixteen, not thirty five, So we cut
our production costs, you know, by a lot.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
But we made a great print.

Speaker 7 (51:48):
I mean, we showed that show on a DJA in
the GGA screening room and held up.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
So, yeah, those of you who don't know, this was
one of the last shows still being shot on film,
especially sixteen millimeter film probably at the time. Probably nothing
is right now, I would guess, unless it's like a
big budget feature on Netflix or something. But most people
don't do that anymore anyway. And it's one of the
reasons why people always ask how come there's no blu

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ray and high resolution sixteen by nine version of the show.
It's because when we made it, we didn't and we
were done with it. No one anticipated all this streaming stuff,
so it was never like upres to be four K video.

Speaker 7 (52:31):
Right, they didn't cut the film and then we do it,
and some of the film that we used you can't
even get anymore. A lot of the flashback scenes I think,
I think you'll see it in season one are shot
on something that was called reversal film, which was like
from the Vietnam War.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
It could had this look of Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
That's why they have a specific texture, though in fact
there's different clearly a different film stock being shot for
these interview sequences, because they're very grainy and have a
different color sort of palette than the show itself.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
When did we switch When did we switch over to chip?
Then when did we switch over to digital?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Because I know, did you do it in season nine?
It would only be in season nine.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
I think it was before season nine, to.

Speaker 7 (53:12):
Be honest with you, I don't think so. I mean
because because it was talked about so much shows, because
NBC had made this mandate that everybody was going digital.
But then when they looked at our numbers, they were like, hey,
keep doing what you're doing. Like I think, I think
maybe in that season nine we went digital, Like I
honestly can't remember us the top of my head.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
I remember that.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
I remember that that was very interesting when you would
see them changing mags or somebody getting the film ready
for the day and having to put the film in
a mag so that it could fit on the camera
and reaching into this like bag. It looked like a bag,
is what it looked like.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Well, it was a picture like a miniature camping tent
that like that would fit on a desktop and it
was blacked out so that they could put their hands
in there and not expose the film while loading them
of camera magazines.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Right, I used to I used to be like, I
remember when we switched over to I guess it was
season nine where we switched over to Chip and I
remember being like, this is the easiest thing in the world.
Why didn't we do this before? Like we could do
takes for days and days and days. All I remember
all my fuck ups, every time I missed a line

(54:21):
or forgot a line and everything like that. I remember
being like, how much how much more room do we
have on the mag before before you know what I mean,
before we're out and we have to and we have
to change the mag again.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
You'd have eleven you'd have about eleven minutes on a
sixty millimeter magazine and uh and and you'd be like
trying to trying to get it, be like, how much
how much more fun we got before you roll out?
I got it? I got I got it.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Let's don't go. You can go forever.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Now you'd be like, don't cut, don't cut. We gotta cut,
we gotta cut. We only got like nineteen feet all right.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
If I cut. When I say to Sarah, we're gonna
need a stool sample not for medical reasons, my robot
needs food. I made that, I'm proud to say, and
Sarah cracked up at it. And it's so random and weird,
but I love it. Okay, I gotta feed my robot. Yes,

(55:09):
poo pooh.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah, nobody's pooh, patient pooh, patient poof for the rover.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
It all comes down to pooh.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
And I laughed out loud when Sarah is seventeen oh four.
Sarah is making fun of my laugh because she's like
already over me, and she's.

Speaker 7 (55:23):
Like, yeah, oh my god, that is so funny that
she does a funny impression of you, because I mean
that laugh has got a lot of genuine laughs with
the silly JD laugh all through the season.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
I feel like that's how every I think that's how
every relationship should be.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
What you see is what you get, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Unfortunately, unfortunately what you see and what you get sometimes
you think you want it, and then eventually it makes
you want to kill the person what it turns out
to turns out to be. With Elliott and JD, she
loved the laugh in the beginning, Oh, I love it
so cute, and then at the end of the show
she's like, fuck that laugh, dude.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Laugh like that again one more time. I dare you.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
It's like, say what again?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Say again, motherfucker, say what one more time?

Speaker 1 (56:13):
I know I hear you. Isn't that so sad though?
When a relationship goes sour and all the things you
thought were so adorable you now just fucking hate.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Yeah, that was my life back in the day. Oh,
he's got such potential.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
We have some guests here, Randall. So we have a
guest that come on the show. Randal, I know that
you don't listen to the podcast.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
So Randall listens to the podcast.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
He does. I don't, ye he does.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Yeah he does.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Because somebody was like, yo, they talked about you on
the podcast the other.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Yeah, that means that means that Randall was told by
someone and he went and listened to one.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
He was like, oh they got a podcast.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
To check that out.

Speaker 7 (56:48):
Oh, somebody's on the podcast.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
They talked his real friends. I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Nice, Hey, yeah, I got shut out.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
All right, we're gonna go to a break and when
we come back, we'll have our guests.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
So Randall, when we do the commercial breaks and the
song comes back, it doesn't have them. A lot of
a lot of our fans like to add their own.
That's part of Barbara, Robbie, Barbara and Robbie, are.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Twins one of your doctor?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
My god, things are getting weird, you guys. Two different
women have entered and they appear to be identical twins
in different parts of the world.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Where you guys call it from.

Speaker 11 (57:36):
I'm calling from UK, in the UK, and.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
You're so you guys. Are you a doctor?

Speaker 11 (57:47):
Yes, I am, Yes, I am, but I'm not working yet.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (57:51):
I had some problems for coronavirus which delayed some technical issues.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
And then Robbie, what about you? Are you a doctor too?

Speaker 2 (58:03):
No?

Speaker 12 (58:03):
No, I got doited in law last February.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
So you've got a lawyer and a doctor.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Your parents will be very happy, very proud.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (58:13):
And last time we saw each other was at the
beginning of March when I brought Bobby to the airport
to take her flight to go to the UK and
move there.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
So you've been apart for a long time. I just
miss each other.

Speaker 11 (58:28):
Yes, a lot, a lot. That's why I also asked
you to do this meeting because I knew that it
was very important to her. It is important also for me.
But she had a very rough time, so oh well, we're.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Here to cheer her up. I'm so glad that you
called in, because not only do you have the legendary
Donald Faizon here and he's always funny, you have Randall Winston,
who was our line producer but you may know him
as Leonard the security guard. And also he played Death
and you know, we've gotten a lot of questions for
Death on our Instagram pages. So finally you can ask

(59:04):
Death any question you have.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Oh, that's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Played much Mouth from the Yeah, you did play much
mouth from Freaking the Fat Out Jump.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yes, different, you had three different parts.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Rand you had that big ass helmet on your head too,
all right, So let's get it.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Go ahead, ladies, ask a question.

Speaker 12 (59:29):
I would like to start it because I am in
a theater company as well, so sometimes we argue about
the best ways to perform. You know, when you have
to feel in character and you have to feel what
your character is feeling in order to act. So I

(59:50):
was wondering whether sometimes you had some difficulties with that
and to make a very strange scene you couldn't really
feel what JD or Turk or Death or Leonard.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Thank you, Bobby, thank you for including him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
My pleasure.

Speaker 12 (01:00:12):
So if you had to find some strange way to perform.
I thought about this question when I was listening to
your podcast last week, and Donald said when he had
to memorize the line you need the surgical counsole, so
you had to make a song about it. So if

(01:00:33):
if my question is not about memorizing things, it's more
about like acting the feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Yeah, uh, you know, let Leonard go first.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
When I strapped on the arm.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Here's here's the thing. You you work hard.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
You work so hard to try to feel everything, and
that's what comes with being an actor. You're gonna work
hard hard and you've ever worked in your life to
try to feel it. But when the camera rolls and
you don't feel it, you better act the shit out
of it, you know what I mean, Because at the
end of the day, it still has to be made.

(01:01:12):
So you're gonna work your hard is to try and
feel the emotion and find the emotion and pinpoint what
it is that you're You know, you'll make notes and
you'll do all of that stuff, but there comes a
time when you're doing it where all of that preparation
and stuff isn't helping, you know what I mean. And
so when it's not helping, it's time for you to
act the shit out of it. And that's just how

(01:01:34):
it goes, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
I would say there's times when it's really just natural,
and then there's times where it feels forced and you
don't feel present. You can see the cameraman and you
can see the crew, and your stomach's growling because you're hungry,
and you know, you had an argument with someone in
your family and all these things that happen in any job,
and you and you're in your head and you're distracted,
and the trick with acting is to always be as

(01:01:56):
present as possible. The good news about acting on film
and tell vision is you really only need to do
it in spurts because you're you're you're trying to shine
for your other actor, but also when the camera's on you,
when it's on when you're no matter what the shot is.
When you're doing a play, you have to maintain that
for for two hours and and scene real. But with

(01:02:17):
with film and TV acting, the real challenge is to
get it in spurts enough so that it will cut
together and be believable. But but yeah, it can be
really it can be really challenging, especially when you're there's
so much distraction. You know, there's phones ringing, and there's
a helicopter overhead, and and you're upset about something in
your private life. You know, it's it's it's a real

(01:02:38):
challenge to do everything you can to be present in
the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
And when you can't be present, that's what that's what
acting is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Then you fake it till you make it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Fake it till you make it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Now, Randall, when you were playing Leonard, did you did?
You didn't? Didn't Leonard have a love interest? By the way, Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Yes, I had to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
It was a scene.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Yes she was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Uh And wasn't she a fellow security guarden?

Speaker 7 (01:03:07):
No, no, she was. Maybe she was a candy striper
or something.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
I just.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Oh, Robbie knows she was an old Yes, take that
was I had to. Were you open mouth kissing her?

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
That was specifically requested.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
By her? Was it in the script?

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
That parts a little foggy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
But you know, I think Robbie's question, how did you
maintain being president in the moment when you were kissing
the senior citizen?

Speaker 7 (01:03:47):
You know what, Robbie, I should have been listening and
I've been listening to her.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Yeah, you were listening to her mouth. Okay, ladies, good question, Yes,
go ahead with another one. Donald left he was so
offended by that question he left.

Speaker 11 (01:04:04):
Okay. So my question is, we watched Scrubs a lot
of time, and the first time we watched it we
were just teenagers, and so we watched it in Italian.
So I wondered, have you ever listened to yourself dubbed
in other languages such as Alan or Spanish or Japanese.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Yeah, I hate how they dubbed me in Spanish and
Italian and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
I never have a deep voice.

Speaker 13 (01:04:29):
I'm always like, yeah, I prefer your voice.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
You know. It's funny is that in most countries, when
you become a known actor, they pick the same actor
to always do you. So if Donald's in one, if
he's in Scrubs and then he goes off to do
another film that is not even to do with Scrubs,
it's usually the same actor being Donald. And I hate that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
I hate that that one person is like, oh, oh no,
was he playing in this?

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Oh don't worry about it. I did him on Scrubs.
I got this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
So to Donald's to Donald's dismay, that voice will always
be his voice.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
That pisses me off.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah, I have. I've heard myself in almost so many
voices traveling around there, especially when the show was on NonStop.
We'd travel around the world and you turn on the
TV and there you were speaking German. It was very funny.
I remember. Uh, then there was a thing where we
had Germans in the show Herman the German right with
the with the balloon things, none of that. And then
I remember in Germany they had to change where they

(01:05:42):
were from because it made no sense that their language
was different, like you know, so you know, like think
about it. If the show has a character that's speaking
of the language, and all of a sudden, the show's
dubbed into that language, they then have to switch that
person's language, so it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
I think we made them Belgium.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Yes, I think you're right. N Randall. How do you
feel as being dubbed as Death and Leonard.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
As long as my fan base? All?

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Did you ever hear?

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Have you ever heard yourself dubbed in other languages?

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
Randall? I have not.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
The good thing about dubbing Death is that you don't
see his mouth moves, so it doesn't look bad.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
I prefer subtitles, but they don't. They don't do that.
A lot of countries just dub it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
I don't prefer subtitles. I do not like subtitles.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
You know you'd rather be dubbed.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Yeah, I'm a I'm a very poor reader. So having
to read subtitles.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Does your poor screen? Does your dyslexia? I've never asked
you this before, but does that make you less likely
to watch subtitled films?

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
No, you know a good movie is a good movie,
no matter what, even with a learning disability, even if
it is written on the screen. My dyslexia isn't so
bad that I can't keep up right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
I just never asked you. I wondered if you if
you said, ah, fuck, it's be paying the ass for
me to read these subtitles, or no.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
I would I would prefer not to read. I'd prefer
to listen to a dubbed mix.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Right, got it?

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Do you guys have another question?

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Oh, you're giving them three because they're separated sisters.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
They're separated sisters.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
This is the first time they've talked to each other
since March.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Right, they're using us. They don't care about scrubs. They
just want to, you know, get on our zoom and
talk to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Like I did a show back in a day called
free to Be a Family, and we did a space
bridge to Russia and this is like our space bridge
between the UK and Italy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Was that like to be? Was that like free to
be you and me?

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
It was free to be you and me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
We're gonna have to see free to be you and
me songs one day.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
We're free to be I could say in a Russian
glee wee wheat e e t t e glee weeat
nois sennoi. Right, wow, We're free to be you and me.
You and me were free to be a family.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
I only know a little Russian from the Billy Joel
Coleopt album when he played and he said Milly Joe
and the crowd went crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
I know that because I got to wrap We're free
to be you and me with the Fat Boys. There
a lot of people don't remember the Fat Boys, but
one of them was an amazing beat boxer, and he
beat boxed while I rapped.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Anyway, So if you guys have.

Speaker 7 (01:08:22):
Another you ever answer any any any calls on the
scrubs phone, that were from out of the country.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
No, I never.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Answered any When we did this episode with Call Turk
and we had cal Turk, we had to get a
real phone line, and Bill thought it would be I
don't know if it was you or Bill Randall, but said,
you know, rather than do a five five five number,
let's get a real number and have it all ring
on a cell phone. And so the cell phone was
in the Scrubs production office and it would just ring

(01:08:51):
all the time. And when you were randomly just walking
through and you had a minute to kill, you just
answer it and talk to fans because it would just
ring NonStop.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
Stop for like five years.

Speaker 7 (01:09:02):
And we kep the map and we put pins in it,
you know, every time we would get calls.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Yeah, that was cool. It's all over the world. All right, ladies,
one last question, go ahead.

Speaker 13 (01:09:12):
That's the thing.

Speaker 12 (01:09:13):
I started to really watch the show as well during
this quarantine because my boyfriend was with me and he
never watched Scrubs before, so I wanted to rewatch it
with him, and we watched it on Amazon Prime. And
I noticed the thing that you mentioned sometimes in the
podcast that they changed a few songs, especially one. It

(01:09:34):
really pissed me off they changed it. It was the
one in the second season when j D and Elliott
kiss again and they start again and it's dreaming of You,
of the choral and I was so waiting for that scene,
and when it arrived, the song was a different one.

Speaker 11 (01:09:53):
So I was so pissed off.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
And we are too.

Speaker 11 (01:09:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:09:58):
So I it's wondering whether you have some one song
or two that you really really like and you're attached
to it, you know, in one seat of Scrubs, and
you would really be angry if someone changed.

Speaker 6 (01:10:16):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Good question.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Well, you know, anytime Josh Rayden did music on the show,
if that got taken off of the show, I would
be very upset. One because Josh is a very close
body of mine. And two his songs it seems like
were made for the episodes of Scrubs, you know what

(01:10:38):
I mean. Like, I don't know if Zach and Josh
had a thing where Zach would be like, yo, I
need you to write a song about this, and he'd
be like, I got it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
But I mean the example that comes to mind the
same thing with me is is Robbie is Josh's song?
Because you know, we've told this on the podcast before.
But when he wrote that song Winter that played at
Benefaer's character's funeral, it was the first song you'd ever written,
like he didn't have. Everyone was like, oh my god,
this is amazing. Where's your album? He's like, album, this
is the only ting ever written. So that one was

(01:11:09):
particularly special to all of us because Josh was our friend.
He started playing guitar late in life. He wasn't someone
who played as a kid, and all of a sudden,
you know, with the thanks to Bill putting him on
the show, his career blew up and he travels, you know,
when the world is not under lockdown. He travels all
around the world. And you guy should see him when
he comes to Italy because you'll see you recognize a
lot of his music that was in scrubs. Another person

(01:11:31):
I want to just mention was Colin Hay, who was
really special for the show. And we're trying to get brandall.
I need your help. By the way, the fans are
all listening, Yes, I need to get Colin's information because
we'd like to have him on for the episode he
was on in season two.

Speaker 7 (01:11:45):
Okay, I get you. Whatever I had is my last contact.
But Colin was a real friend of the show and
fun and funny and had a good sense of humor
about himself. There was a song I think it's in
this season, the Christmas episode in Donald you are running
and we play Centerman. Yeah, that song was super powerful
in the episode. And and we were all disappointed when

(01:12:07):
songs got changed out, particularly in those first couple of seasons,
because we were sort of like the bastard step child
over there and like always held to a very strict,
low budget number. We licensed a lot of songs not
for forever. You know, when you license a song may
have something called in perpetuity and all of the media

(01:12:28):
that is now known or yet to be figured out,
and you can keep the song in. So there's one
and two. The music wasn't licensed that way, so we
had to make some of those decisions about which they.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Say, I always assumed it was that I didn't know.
What you're implying is that as the seasons go on,
you then did shot started doing contracts that would cover streaming,
but no one knew what streaming was at.

Speaker 14 (01:12:51):
The time, exactly exactly, So like that first couple of seasons,
the first couple of seasons, if the licensing has run
out and then and didn't renegotiate or sign on to
continue the licensing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
The network automatically just changed the song.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:13:09):
I mean I actually had to sit with music editor
and music licensing for like a week or so after
the seasons were over in the summertime to figure out
like what songs were. Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
I always wondered who was who was putting these songs on.
We've we talked about that on the podcast that you
don't listen to, But we always wondered, what what intern
what intern somewhere is choosing these like second best songs.

Speaker 7 (01:13:35):
It's it was an exercise and killing babies like everything.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
It was great.

Speaker 7 (01:13:39):
But they're like, they're like, you absolutely cannot have all
of this. You know what do you want to say?

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
You're not gonna have Center Man forever. Wow, all right, ladies,
we have to move on because death has to take
his kids swimming. And but thank you. I I'm sorry
that you're I feel sad that your two sisters that
are separated. That's horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Is there anything you want to say to each other?

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Is there anything want to say to each other? While
everyone's listening.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
It's a free call ye.

Speaker 12 (01:14:09):
We actually rehearsed it before. Can we take a picture
with you?

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Yes, of course.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Let me just get fresh for you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Let me get fresh. Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Thank you, thank you, Thank you, lady so much, thank
you be saying so much. Nineteen oh nine, in the
Bowling Alley, two people on the left side of the
screen spike the lens looked directly into the camera. I'm
not sure.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
Oh my god, the Bowling Alley.

Speaker 7 (01:14:38):
Is that not the day when our prop man got
stuck in the under Yes, it is.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
It does to retrieve the ball that he reached it.
It was proper set.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Or Patrick, my name Patrick Bolton.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 7 (01:14:53):
Wasn't because it was somebody who we laughed at much
longer before we helped him. It was because the th
the thing came down on him and we thought it
was hilarious. It was like a cartoon. You just saw's
legs kick it, and then suddenly somebody was like, oh
my god, we.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Should probably take get him out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
I remember. He wasn't with us very much longer after that, either.

Speaker 7 (01:15:16):
He was.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
Soon after he hid rowdy in the ceiling.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
He went to that guy.

Speaker 7 (01:15:22):
That guy went to uh, Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Ah, Okay, So anyway, two people at the bowling Eye,
look right in the lens. If you're interested in your
in your new hobby of finding people who spiked the lens.
Donald you say, my baby knows how to knock him down.
That was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
My baby does know.

Speaker 7 (01:15:38):
Not.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
That was a lot of fun I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Okay, like most episodes we've watched so far, when watching this,
I didn't remember any of it, and I thought that
was the cutest thing. I thought Turk and Carla was
so cute and so on point for the joke when
JD's like, you know, couples go through this, this is
what happens. Name show me a happy couple. And then
right the way you see Turk and Carla enjoying themselves. Yeah, yes,

(01:16:03):
that was wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
And they're so sweet together. I mean you just you
just love them. And then especially of course when you
cut to the documentary footage thing and they're you know,
and they're being so adorable and and and both saying
how much they love each other.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
No, and you're rooting for them yeah yeah, yeah, and
not necessarily for Elliott and j D. In this episode,
even though it starts off where you're rooting for them,
you can tell, uh, once it gets to the bad times,
you're like, wow, these guys really aren't good for each other.
Went sour so quick though, very well, you only have
a half an hour to tell the story.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
No, I'm saying like, in the world of the show,
they dated for like in two weeks and then they
were like, this isn't working.

Speaker 7 (01:16:42):
But I think that was acision by Bill because he wanted,
you know, he didn't want to have that protracted Will
they yeah, will they won't? The friends thing, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Then he ended up doing it anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Yes, well, but that's the works well even at the end, right,
but even at the end of the episode, you say,
you know that the therap do I think it'll work?

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
And JD's right. JD's right, it does work. It just
doesn't work at that moment in time. In the long run,
in the in the grand scheme of things, these two
are meant to be together.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
So sad though I was, I was sad watching it
that the two people who love each other who can't
I'm just a sucker for unrequited love and and love
that cannot be and here's two people that we want
to be together but they can't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
But that's when Harry met Sally. Like you said, that's it,
That's when Harry met Sally all over again, you know
what I mean. Like, that's such one of my favorite
that's first of all, one of my favorite movies Billy
Crystal and Meg Ryan.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
But that story is great, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
It reminds me of that Fiona Apple lyric when she says,
only kisses on the cheek from now on, and.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
In a littlely they have wave no, no, baby, all right,
if I need you, I'll just use your simple name.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Keep going. Finish it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Only kisses on the cheek from now on and in
a little while, we'll only have to wave.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
That's so fucked up. They don't have to wave. Hey,
how you doing?

Speaker 7 (01:18:26):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
I remember breaking up with someone and then going to
give them a kiss and they gave me the cheek
and being like, yeah, that's probably where what I should
We should probably kiss on the cheek from one one.
Oh yeah, and now I just wave.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
The last thing I want to say is that when
I liked how Judy a her delivering and also the
writing when she she ends the documentary section, and she
says he seems to like who I am, and I
just thought that was so sweet, Like, you know, all
bullshit aside, it seems like he genuinely likes who I
genuinely am, and I just thought that was really pretty. Yeah, man, Randall,

(01:19:03):
you've been a phenomenal guest.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
I feel like we're one step away from getting in
your car with you, so we want to let you go.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
We should you just promise us you'll come back.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
And do you come back? Randall? I feel like you're
gonna be a fan favorite because delight here Randall. Randall,
do you use a washcloth in the shower? U?

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Okay, Randall's black, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
I'm trying to tell you this. I'm trying to tell
you this. All black people use wash cloths.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
We have house, right, Randall? We love you. You can count
us into our theme song. Thank you everybody for listening
to Fake Doctor's Real Friends. Randall count us in three
two one. Now he doesn't listen to the doesn't listen
to the pod. He's just been outed. He's just been outed,

(01:19:54):
you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
He doesn't listen to the podcast six seven eight.

Speaker 5 (01:19:58):
Story show We made about a bunch of talks and
nurses in Canada.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
I said, here's the stories next.

Speaker 6 (01:20:09):
All should know, So gather round you here, up, gather
around you here up. Stuff me.

Speaker 7 (01:20:17):
My show is a