121: My Sacrificial Clam With Neil Flynn

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow. Donald. Wow. That's all I know is wow. And
on a day when we have Neil Flynn on, like,
I'm all excited. I've been pounding energy drinks and here
I am. I'm ready to go. And know, Donald Fazon,
do you want to tell everyone why you're so late?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I made a mistake and tried to download the new
Apple whatever it is. Yeah, the software two hours before.
This computer it's pretty old. It's a MacBook Pro. But
it's an old computer. You know, it's an older model
of the MacBook Pro.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
So I am now twenty minutes later.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, have Mary lay. We got Neil Flynn. He's like
sitting in a holding room.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
We put him in the holding We put him all
in the holding cell.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
They put Neil in a holding cell and he's just
sitting there. He's probably gonna keep, probably gonna walk out soon.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I hope Neil doesn't walk out. First of all, how's
everybody doing?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
We were just chatting. We had a great chat waiting
for you.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
What were you chatting about?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
We were talking about just our lives and what's happening,
and how Joelle has a huge Twitter following. I didn't
know about.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, did This just happened because if the podcast or no.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Joelle, Joelle, what's your handle? Should we should blow it
up even more?

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:15):
Yeah, my handle is at Joel Monique on the twitters
and the Instagrams. And I was a writer before I
came to you guys, and I would do a lot
of critiquing of like television shows and movies. I think
my Watchmen interviews are probably one I'm most famous for.
Toronto International Film Festival just retweeted those yesterday. But yeah,
come talk to me about nerdy and political things.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
It's good times.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well you're you're you're a Watchmen fan?

Speaker 7 (01:41):
Oh fuck it?

Speaker 6 (01:42):
From the graphic novel era, the TV show really killed it?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Did you not like the movie?

Speaker 6 (01:47):
The movie was my introduction, and I find that it
has some things that are very intriguing and interesting about it,
but overall, I don't think it holds up to like
the quality that is the original graphic novel.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Right, the graphic novel has more.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
And I love the TV show Man. I thought that
was incredible and brilliant.

Speaker 6 (02:03):
They want a Peabody this morning.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
And so relevant to today when you see these, when
you see what's a what's happening? In the news and
also like cops with their face mess on. I can't
help but think of watching The Watchmen. I was like, wow, yeah,
and I saw someone with an article that was like
Watchman was just a few months too early or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Someone, Yeah, they got it right, they got it right,
they predicted it.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Listen, I would love to banter with you and tell
you how much I smell because I forgot to put
on deodorant and uh and I'm I'm glad that we're
on a zoom call. So you guys aren't offended, but
we got Neil Flynn sitting on all right.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, then hold on one second. How about this stories show?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
We made about a bunch of.

Speaker 8 (02:51):
The stories.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
So you know, I don't think that you deserve to
five six seven eight when you're this late.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
I did it already, so I know.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
But I just want to submit to the to the
to the to the to the Scrubs podcast rule book
that you are when you're this late. You don't get
to five six seven eight, you're punished.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
When when did we get a rule book?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
You know, when I was a kid, I'm going to camp.
I was so nerdy and this was back in a
day when they would let you do this. But on
the on the school bus to camp, I would sit
in the front seat and as the bus as the
bus pulled in for each stop, the bus driver would
allow me to operate the mechanism that opened up the

(03:43):
school bus door, and I thought I was the coolest
mofo in the world as the door operator. Now wait,
this is my point. Was that I got in trouble
one day at camp and the counselors told the bus
driver that I had been bad and I was not
allowed to operate rate the door that day, and I
was crushed. I was I sat and pouted, and I

(04:06):
just feel that that should be something like your punishment.
You don't get to five six seven eight when you've
been naughty.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
But I already five six seven I know.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, I'm just trying to lay down the rules. Maybe
Joel can can start to make like a Bible of
sorts of the rules of the show.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Okay, how old were you when all of this happened?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
This was last year, and no, I don't know daycamp.
How old you at day camp? Seven eight?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Ship? Well, then yes, I can understand.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I was five six seven eight and I'm just kidding.
All right, let's bring in Neil Flynn. Dan.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Push the button, Ladies and gentlemen give it up.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Four.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, Hi Neil Flynn.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
He you fellas.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
How's it going excellent?

Speaker 4 (04:54):
There?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
He is there, Ishi, Neil, This is a Joel and
I think you met Dan briefly.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yes. I was teaching him about computers and things like that.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
It's so good to see you, man.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
It is good to see you too.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Donald's literally in the closet. Good minute.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
I am literally in the closet.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
It started. It started Neil because it was it was
the best place for sound, because it had all his
clothes as a sound dampening thing. And then he realized
that he could hide from his family in there. So
he goes there sometimes even when we're not recording the podcast,
to escape his his children.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
This is the this is the safest place in my house.
My kids don't find my clothes amusing or interesting enough
to want to hang out in the closet, so.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I can't say I ever found my father's clothes. Uh,
we are any Are any of your kids big enough
to wear your clothes? Now?

Speaker 3 (05:47):
No?

Speaker 7 (05:48):
I no?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Thank good?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well yeah, well, yeah, I have an eighteen year old
with us, but uh, he doesn't necessarily like the clothes
I wear. He's more into that supreme style and stuff
like that. Me personally, I you know, I've dumbed down
my gear a little bit and now I'm a golf
shirt and shorts kind of guy. And so what you

(06:10):
see behind me is a bunch of golf shirts and
then my shorts are over there.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
That Neil, that was your probably first and last tour
ever of Donald's clothes.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, well, you know you asked, but I do.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
I do remember.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I do remember when my father's clothes became interesting to
me and I wanted to wear all of his gear.
And I would go into my dad's closet and take
his shirts which were oversized for me, which at the
time was really cool. And he had like a bunch
of designer things that I didn't you know, he had
like back in the day when jabebou was really popular

(06:48):
or you know, shirts like that, and I remember going
in his.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Closet, TAINI do you remember those?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
No, I remember, No, I.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Was like the sweatsuit of sweatsuit okay, but.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I remember going in his closet and taking a really
expense shirt and wearing it outside and ripping it and
being like, oh shit, my dad's gonna kill me. My
dad's gonna kill me, and having to tell him. And
my dad didn't come home all the time, right, So
my dad would leave in the morning and then come
back maybe you know, three four days later.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
You know, that's just how my dad rolls. And and.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I remember having to wait for him to come home
to tell him that I ripped one of his really
expensive shirts. And he wasn't too beat up about it,
but I remember the fear. For three days I had
to wait, and you know, my mom being like, he's
gonna kick your ass and me.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Being like God, and then.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Find you ripped the shirt.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Like playing playing something stupid, like we were playing a
on a jungle gym and we would play tag where
you couldn't touch the ground, sure, and the jungle gym
was huge, was big enough for you to jump from
you know, the slide to you know, uh, one of
the houses or wooden houses or some.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Shit or plant. You were a kid, yeah, I was a.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Kid wearing my dad's oversized, expensive shirt.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
And what made you think, like, you know what I'm
gonna rock to the jungle gym today is Dad's expensive shirt.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I just, you know, because everybody was wearing jabot, you
know what I mean. And I thought, well, if he
has a shirt, I can go outside and I'll have
this really crisp and it was like and it was
fucked up to the fucked up thing was it was
like in plastic and it just come from the cleaners
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I kind of knew. I kind of knew, like dude.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Took the plastic off to.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
And I made a mistake.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
It's one of those things like I watched my kids
now do to ship where it's like, what were you thinking,
why would why would you even do something like that?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
And their answer is, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
And that was my answer to I don't know, ye
just impulsive, impulsive.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
My sister when I went close shopping, I remember I
was in like fourth grade and it was the height
of I don't know if you remember guest jeans. It
was like the height of guest jeans and for mostly
for women. I think at the time, I'm guessing because
my sister convinced me and my mom that I should
wear guest jeans as well in fourth grade and they
were very uh, you could always tell they were guest

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jeans because they had a triangle on the on the back,
on the back, jean pocket. So I thought, Okay, you know,
I'm not much of a style guy. I'm more of
a sweatpants T shirt kid, but you know, okay, I'll
try this out for a full day. I was bullied
by essentially the entire school. Children of all ages and

(09:37):
grades came by to point and laugh at me and
my guest jeans.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Because they were considered like girl jeans or.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
A girl a girl and expensive. I think they were.
They were like I remember them being like fifty bucks
or maybe one hundred bucks whatever whatever they I mean,
it was like too expensive for a kid to have anyway,
but I think probably fourth gradsigner. I don't know, I
don't know. I regret it to this day. I when
Donald started talking about his story, I felt the pain

(10:05):
in my heart from literally the It's like it's like
it's like what's his name on on on the Simpsons going.
It was literally that for a full day of school.
So then I go home, I go home in tears
and I tell my mom, like, I hate these jeans.
I'm so everyone made funny me all day long. I
fucking hate these jeans, and she was like, well, you

(10:25):
know we're gonna do Zach, those dream jeans are perfectly fine.
We're gonna take my little stitch cutter and we're gonna
cut the triangle off off the pocket. Well she did that,
and they still had the marking of what the triangle was.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, now you have some sort of knockoff guess jeans.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, exactly, but it's worse exactly, Neil. Now I'm wearing
black market guess gell. Neil, thank you for coming on.
We Donald and I started started doing this silly little thing,
and both of us when we post about it on
Instagram and Twitter, I would say that like sixty percent

(11:06):
of the comments people are right, right, are when are
you having Neil Flynn on? So you are very beloved
by beloved or beloved by either one by the people
either one.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
It's like divisive and divisive. All of a sudden, divisive
became divisive because that's how Barack Obama pronounced it. Really yeah,
people say divisive. I had never heard it pronounced that
way before Obama said that.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Well, you know, if Obama said it, yeah, now I'm
now I'm switching.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I'm switching a few years a few years late.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
But I'm changing, switching it up, switching it up.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
If he starts wearing Jbo's shirts, That's what I'm gonna
do too.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
He probably does wear guest jeans, though he's a stylish guy.
I don't know if they're still in style anymore.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I don't know if.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I'm not sure how big Guess is. I don't think
I know.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Somewhere somebody the CEO of guesses like, we're still ahead,
We're still yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
We're going to get Donald and I are gonna get
send guest Gene in the mail, because sometimes when we
mention things on here, we get sent in the mail.
I got a care package from Omission. I have to
tell him, is Neil. It's really lame in Hollywood to say,
but I don't eat gluten, and but I love beer.
And so there's a really good pale ale called Omission,
which I mentioned because we were all talking about beer.
They sent me not only a beautiful care package of

(12:19):
Omission beer, but an Omission backpack.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
I've yet to receive any of this.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
When you come to school in the backpack, I'm going
to make fun of you. You got a Mission bagpack.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
You're gonna be like, Zach, please tell me you're not
wearing a gluten free beer backpack.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
I don't really even know what that is gluten, but
I think you can get away with not etene gluten
in Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah you can. It's just when I you know, this
podcast has listened all over the world. Whenever I mentioned it,
I cringe because I know people are like, oh, what
a Hollywood tool.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Not you know, I thought that sparkling water was universal.
You go places in like Texas and you'll be like,
can I get.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Some sparkling water?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
And they'll be like, we don't have that, say club soda.
Maybe I went to someplace and they were like, we
do have club soda.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yes, what's the clubference between club soda and sparkling water?
Does anybody know.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Club soda is carbon and sparkling water is sodium?

Speaker 3 (13:20):
If I no, no, Neil knows.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
No, You're right, I have a cat. Okay, And of
course they listen when you're saying no, yeah, but he's
in my.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Oh you were saying no to the cat. I thought
you were. I thought you were heavily. I thought you
were very clearly opining.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
On Donald's no no, no no.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
And then I was waiting for you to go into
your explanation, but you never did.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Don't try to give me that club soda story.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
All right, Wait, Joelle is letting us know. Club soda
is artificially infused with carbon and mineral salts. Similarly, seltzer
is artificially carbonated but generally does not contain any added minerals.
Sparkling mineral water, on the other hand, is naturally carbonated
from a spring or well, how is something naturally carbonated?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I don't know, dude, carbon gets into it.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Well, that was a very thorough explanation, but I still
didn't understand it.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I feel like you cussed and cut and pasted that
though from from She didn't.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Just freehand type that. She just got it off the web.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
You know, speaking of places that don't have things. We're
in some backwoods plays touring with a show and stopped
it kind of a dairy queen type of thing, but
sort of in glove a forest for some reason. And
one of the girls with us, she's going to get
a cheeseburger. She says, what kind of cheese do you have?
I think this is somewhere in Michigan and the person

(14:49):
literally goes cheese. It's square, it's orange, and it's flat.
That person went home and told her family, you wouldn't
believe what this girl asked me to do. Kind of cheese.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's it's cheese.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
So all right, Neil, I was gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
You got no, you do it, You do it, you
do it?

Speaker 3 (15:22):
No, no, no, go ahead. I was just gonna be.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I was just gonna be like, I was just gonna
say this, Neil, You're one of the few people in
the history of television. There's like a handful of people
that went from a show that ran for eight years
to a show that ran for eleven year?

Speaker 3 (15:39):
What did the middle of eleven nine to a nine year?

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Seventeen years?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Seventeen years straight on television?

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Man, I know?

Speaker 1 (15:47):
And then actually and then actually, Knel, you went onto
another show right away, right, So you did eight and
then that one didn't last, right, But you did eighteen
years in a row on TV.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah, yes, that might be.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
A record that You've got to be on a very
short list.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
It has to be.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
But if there is, whatever the list is, however long
it is, I am the least famous person on it.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
That's not true.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
I just agree. I disagree. No, that's true, But it's
just you know, I was trying for a long time
before Scrubs came along, and then I finally the door opened,
you know, and I got let into the party, and
luckily enough, I just stayed.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Now tell us Neil, that's a good segue into because
whenever we have the cast members on, we try and
we've all sort of told our stories of of how
he got on the show. And Bill sold a really
funny story about you, and which I'll let you tell
or your version of it, because he was talking about
how you initially read for Cox and and then when
he said you wanted to be the janitor, you said
something like, but I'll still have a stethoscope, right or something.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah. Well, Bill tends do embellish his story.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh really, yeah, over time, if you were if if
you've heard a Bill story like at the beginning, and
then what it's like in two years. It's it's like
the ultimate game of telephone. It's become something exaggerated.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
But yes, and I thought before, what kind of person
just takes his story and changes it improves it? Possibly
a comedy writer. It kind of makes sense.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
But Neil, what was going on for you before? Like
what were you up to before Scrubs? And then how
did you come to be on Scrubs?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Well, I can't just say.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
You had done a bunch of movies though in Chicago
and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Like small parts, small, nothing of any significance.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
But the baseball movie that you did, you were one
of the key players in that movie.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Rookie of the Year was.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Just correct, right right, And yeah, the out part in
Major League as well. I was doing baseball movies only,
you know, I went into not even read but years ago,
whenever they would have made eight men out. I somehow
got a chance to be one of the baseball players.
And I went in and she said, so, do you

(18:00):
a baseball I said yeah. She said do you really
you know, like she pushed me. I said, well, it's
not like I could have been a pro, you know,
And I saw her face fall. She lost interest in me.
I'm twenty five years old. If I could have been
a pro, i'd be a pro. And then I see
the movie and there's the baseball players. They're playing catch. Yeah,

(18:20):
it sounds like doing the movie throwing the ball back
and forth. We only got pros for this, you know. Anyway,
So I wasn't in that Baseball movie, but I was
just doing little parts of what E can get. I
was starting to get guest star on things a little bit,
and and then this came up. I actually, I feel

(18:41):
like I've told this story before. It Is it okay
to repeat yourself?

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yes? Yeah, man, Our fans might not know it, and
I'm sure they'll love the story.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Okay. I was doing guest stars on things, and whereas
the first half of my career i'd been kind of
a straight actor, kind of a drama leaning, drifted over
unto the comedy side, and thank goodness I did, because
that's where things opened up. I had done an episode
of Drew Carrey and Christa Miller was on that show,

(19:10):
and shortly afterwards friends of mine said that they're going
out to dinner with Chris Miller and her new husband,
who turns out was Bill Lawrence. And I said, years ago,
I met a Bill Lawrence. We played on the same
basketball team out here right before I left and went
back to Chicago, and it was the same guy, and
so we you know, I went to their house for

(19:33):
drinks or whatever, and then within a month or two
he had this show that he had created, and so
I got called in and I said, thanks for calling
me in. He said, I didn't. I didn't give him
your name. They because the same people that directed to
Drew Carrey. I think cash scrubs.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Anyways, so then I read Doctor Cox and he said
that was good. You're not going to get this part.
I already know who I'm going to give it to.
I said, oh, well, that's you know, fair enough, and
he says, but you want to read this. He hands
me two pages and it's the scene with the janitor
and JD at the door, and he goes, good, you
want to do that? Said sure, you know, it's a job.

(20:11):
As a job, that's all I've been doing. It's five
hundred bucks or whatever it is for the end of
the day. And then I think what was significant is
between doing the pilot and that's all I was promised
the janitor wasn't gonna do anything else. Bill came to
and saw an imp prov show that I did, and

(20:32):
he enjoyed it and learned I don't know that I
could think on my feet or whatever. And I think
this made all the difference that probably the first scene
of the next episode. When I show got picked up,
we rehearsed it. He goes, yeah, good, and then if
you think of something else, just throw it in do

(20:52):
a take like that. Or we would go for around
and rehearsal. We would say good, keep that remember. And
so that for me, considering it was a pretty small part.
That was that made all the differences. I got to
have such latitude.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
What was amazing for for me watching you was Bill's
respect for how understandably for how funny you were, because
you know, with everyone else, he would, you know, the
rule on Scrubs was kind of like, okay, you know,
make sure you get it as written, and then if
you guys have time, you can you can mess around
a little bit, and and and and you know, and

(21:29):
and and and we all did that. We all would
would come up with stuff. But with Neil, Bill would
just be like, all right, Neil, you can make something
funnier than this, So what do you what do you
want to say? And invariably Neil would just come out
and sometimes they were long and like and and Bill
would put them in, but they were I mean, Neil,
I you know, all my stuff was with you. The
first season, and I just I don't think.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
I ever left with you.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Sorry, that's what I meant to say. I was just
I'd never really worked with anyone like that. I never
worked I mean, I was so blown away by you
because I had never I mean it was my first
big job, obviously, but even in my other stuff I
had done, I had never worked with someone who could
think so quickly on their feet and would just be
adding stuff that was, with all due respect to Bill,
even finnier than what was written on the page.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
And Bill said, if it's funnier than what I wrote,
that's fine. People will think I wrote it. Yeah, So
he was fine with that.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Well, I appreciate that compliment. And it was a I think,
very rare situation at that unfolded the way it did.
And when when that show ended and I went on
to the middle, I said, well, this is great. The
only the only bad part will be if they're sticklers
about the script, because I'm not used to that, and

(22:40):
they were, And I had a lot more to say. Right.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
That must have been so frustrating for you, because I mean,
I just can't one thing about Bill. We always joke
about his ego and how competitive he is, but he
really always he was very open to people contributing. That's
not to say, you know, he was the editor ultimately,
and he would decide what was in and what wasn't
and and sometimes we thought stuff was hilarious that he
wouldn't use it. But he was very open to everybody collaborating.

(23:06):
And then it's like Neil said, he goes on to
another show and they're like, great, we just want you
to say exactly what's written, and you can't. You know,
if I hear that story and I go, what were
you thinking? I mean, you you contributed so much to
the humor of Scrubs. I just can't believe. It's like
not letting a racehorse run.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Well, you know, the difference if it's a racehorse is
running around and someone says, okay, I can see that
you're very fast. This is a farm, we need you
to pull that plot running gets it. The difference is
the tone of the show Scrubs. Even though it had
it's nice, uh you know, it could turn on a

(23:47):
dime and be heartfelt and sincere in that. Other than that,
and much of it it wasn't very grounded. It was well,
all the fantas season. I mean it was very and
the janitor could have turned out to be a Martian. Okay, sure,
I guess sure. I was playing a family man in Indiana.
You can't just say crazy things.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Right right right where in One of your specialties was
just I remember that Bill told the story about you
getting the one thing you improve that he kept all
in about getting into a fight with a with a chicken.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Do you remember that, Yeah, it was a duck. I
think a duck. I think I feel like that was
written or partly written or mostly written, and I might
have gone off a little bit, but I think.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I think the start of it may have been. But
as I recall you, as you did so many times hilariously,
would just go off with it, and so, you know
a lot of times we'd be like, this is hilarious.
I don't know if Bill's gonna put this in the
show or not, but on set we're all fucking cracking up.
And then and then it almost invariably you'd see the
episode cut together and it would be in there. I
remember one of my favorite I mean, you and I
had some I mean, I'm not just saying this because

(24:52):
you're here, man, I I genuinely think and no offense. Donald,
I love you to death, but I thought, I genuinely
think you. You've probably made me laugh harder than anyone
and else on earth.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Well, wow, okay, then I remember I remember an episode
and they wound up changing the episode. But the storyline
between the two of you was about a piece of
fruit and that you had never tried before, that that
the janitor had never tried before. And the whole storyline

(25:23):
was you finally getting this fruit at the end of
the show and tasting the fruit, and and I don't
remember where it went after that, but I just remember
you doing a bunch of really funny things about fruit,
and then they changed it to like a scooter or
some shit like that.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I don't know what it was.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Oh, you remember this. This reminds me yesterday because Zach
sent me an episode of this thing to listen with
John McGinley. Yeah, and it came up, what episode wasn't
the janitor in?

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Was that the episode that is it cups?

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yes, I think I because there was an outtake of
me wiping out on a scooter coming in the front
door of the hospital, but that had never aired because
I was that was the first season, and I was
edited out of it, and that's the only time that happened.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, I knew it. I knew I knew it.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
I knew I'll do as the worst memory in the world.
Remembered something because.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
I thought the I thought the story was so funny.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
The fruit story was so funny, and it was like
a peach or a plump, and you kept improvising different
fruits when.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
You were telling that story. I have and I still
have no memory whatsoever of a fruit and a plot
line about fruit because I wasn't in it, so I
blocked it out of my SPIKEE Neil.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
One of my favorite I have two favorite moments that
always come to mind when I think of laughing with you.
The first is in the Wizard of Oz episode when
you and I did this whole long riff about about
seeing a manatee under the hospital, and then you said,

(27:05):
I said, is there some sort of underground canal system
or something? I think I I think I saw a
manatee And you said, was his name Julian? And then
I said, I don't know. We we didn't exchange pleasantries,
and you go, that's Julian.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
That was good.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
The writers though I don't know, no, no, that was
all me and you just being silly again. It was
one of those things where we were like, I don't
think this is ever going to be in the show,
but we were just cracking each other up about there's
a manatee under the hospital and has a name, and
you you're familiar with his social behavior.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
This is what I'm talking about being able to wing it. Yeah,
I couldn't have thrown that in in the middle. I
was working on Corey Mike. It was good. There's a
man he lives underground, and the other one.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
That yeah, you do, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
It's uh, it's it's this.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
It's your finger thumb finger.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
If you guys want to watch on the on the
Scrubs gag reel blipper reel that you can find on YouTube.
I forgot what season it is. But Neil the janitor
as wife had made me scrubs short shorts and and
he's like, look, I really want you to wear these
to work, and I'm like, I'm like, I'm I'm a
I'm a doctor. I can't wear short shorts to work.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
A pair of scrubs cut off really high.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, it was so high like my balls would have
hung out of them. And then Neil goes, the good
Lord didn't bless my wife with all ten fingers. She
only has pointer on one hand and thumb pinky on
the other, meaning that that it had been really hard
for her to make these short shorts, and I was
disrespecting her. I didn't wear them anyway. I just couldn't

(28:54):
make it through. I could not make it through with
with Neil going pointer and thumb pinky.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
That's, by the way I life. That probably doesn't exist.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
No, yeah, she didn't.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
She didn't exist because you get married at the end
of the at the end of the scy True.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
That's true. And Neil, you know, Neil, we've been joking
this first season. It's down like, you know, we haven't
seen these in twenty years, and as I'm sure you haven't.
And you know Bill, you know one of the Bill
isms that he always says is, you know, I was
debating season one if the Janitor was just gonna be
a figment of JD's imagination. Well, every episode we go through,
for the most part, we see little moments where the

(29:29):
janitor does interact with other people, and every time we
bring it up to Bill, We're like, so, yeah, you're
holding onto that.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
But you know, you know in.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
This episode, the janitor, you know, for example, in this one,
he offers two baseball tickets. Sorry, Franklin god Better, who
who is one of our assistant directors, is playing the
the the actor who sees Neil with the two tickets
and says I'll go, and Neil's like, not you. And
it's like another example of like, okay, well then other

(29:58):
people will see the janitor. Bill.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
I watched that yesterday, that that was a moment that
was added to the script that wasn't in there. Yeah,
and that you part for Franklin.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
I think that might be the one of the only
times I mean you might.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Now he dressed up like the bunny. Remember Franklin dressed
up like a bunny.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
No, I'm not I'm not saying that Franklin wasn't in
the show more. I'm saying where it's a really funny
moment where Neil goes, uh, what do you want to
what do you want to go to a baseball game
and have popcorn? And then Gg walks away like stop
messing with me, and then he pulls the two tickets
out of his shirt. He's like the last time I
reached out and I was laughing out loud and going,

(30:39):
do you think that's the only time in Scrubs history
that the janitor ever like made a genuine appeal to
Jdy the hatchet?

Speaker 4 (30:47):
You know what if watching that, I thought, I don't
think I played that right because I said it very sarcastically.
So of course you walked away. You know, we want
to do go to a baseball game and we get up.
But I probably should have said, well, would you like
to go to a baseball game with me and we
can share popcorn? I mean, it's something that sounds a

(31:07):
little more sincere.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Right, But JD had to you know, it had to
be on the line because JD had to be like,
stop fucking with me, roll his eyes and walk away, right.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Or maybe the janitor just has no skill at offering
an invitation. They all come out very sarcasting, very sarcast right.
Would you like to come to a party with me?
I guess would you marry me? Please?

Speaker 1 (31:33):
So what was the troop that you were doing improv
with Neil that Bill saw you? Early in the early.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Days, we were called beer shark mice and it was
at the Io West, which no longer exists a theater,
but we must have done it for as it turns out,
fifteen eighteen years something like that. It was crazy.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
We throw out the names real quick. Pete Honey, Dave Keckner,
Pat Finn, Mike Coleman, Paul Valancourt. I hope I didn't
forget anybody when I first moved out here, removed out
here after five years in Chicago. We had been doing
it out of theater in Chicago. Not the same group,
but all those individuals with different and he'd only put

(32:20):
just put a group together out here when they Sharon,
who owns it, opened up a branch out here, and
we all had a virtually nothing to do. Nobody's career
was rolling, and so that's what that's what we did
all the time. That was maybe in.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
And what was that? Was there a specific game or
that you guys would play or structure of your.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Improv Uh no, not really, but we didn't do games.
That's a different approach. It was. There's something called a
herald that is a long form. We would get up there,
take his yestion and go for half hour. Yeah, and

(33:00):
we didn't do that, but it was along those lines
to just take a suggestion and then the audience is done.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Particularly, that's amazing.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
You just rolled for half far. It was a good group,
and it was it's not necessarily dead now, but it
was great fun and a great thing to do, and
I enjoyed doing it. And then after a while sometimes
they still want to do a show, and I say,
you know, I'm closing in on sixty years old. I
don't think I was twenty five. I wasn't interested in

(33:28):
saying sixty year olds entertainment in any way.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Oh, I have no doubt that you would sell out.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Man.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
People love seeing you, and you were so good at it.
I mean I remember thinking that when we're doing Scrubs,
that that just cracking up with the stuff you would
come up with and going out. I would love to
go see one of your improv shows. We may have
gone on when we were involved the no. I just
maybe he came with it when we were.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Doing when we were doing scrubs, Were you doing this
show too?

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Were you doing the improv show?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I feel like I must have come once.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
I don't think it did, because I didn't, you know,
feel strongly about this, But people had heard that this
was going on, and it went on for all the
years of the Scrubs, and so people would often I
don't know if they're just striking up a conversation or
being you know, they really meant it when you do
that show years what time it like for the literally

(34:25):
like for the fiftieth time, I'm saying to somebody, Saturday night,
eight o'clock, I owe theater, and as far as I recall,
no one ever came. So I got tired of being asked.
You know what I mean, I didn't end. I don't
need anybody to come, but the house's fully.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I saw a video or something I saw.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, that's what we did. We saw a video. Bill
showed us a video.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Maybe that's what it was. Bill was sort of was
showing us a video of you. And because I feel
like I have a somewhere in my brain memory.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
And there was you and somebody on stage and it
was like, uh, where you were a drill not a
drill sergeant, but something like that, where you were an
army and I just remember it a long time.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
It was you remember that improv from twenty years ago?

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Right? Yeah, that's uh, no one ever. Maybe it's possible,
but pretty much you never remember. As seen, someone will say,
I shay you guys, everybody once you're re firement, and
I don't I remember that?

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Shall we get into the show, So, Neil, what we
do is we just kind of talked through the episode
and point out things that made us laugh or or
or or just any thoughts we have. But we should
probably take a break, right, Joelle, I got a break, Neil.
This is a real show. We have commercials and.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Shit, I know I heard. I'm very impressed.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yes, no joking around when it comes to being real, right, Donald,
I mean no, this is the real deal. This is
like a real radio show.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Well, I mean a real podcast, a real podcast. Yeah, yeah,
that's how you want to.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
All right, tell the people we'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Donald, you already did.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Okay, we'll be right back. Alrighty, we're back. We're back
with Neil Flynn. Everybody the people spoke, they said Neil Flynn,
Bring on Neil Flynn, and we got him.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Has everybody else been here? You are?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
No, Ken has not been on the Jenkins, But we've
had the other lead cast members.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, we had Judy on, We've had Johnny on, We've
had Sarah on.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
We now have you on?

Speaker 4 (36:29):
We had Bill on Christa, you know, speaking of Ken Jenkins.
I am just but you know when we started the show,
he was the old guy. Yeah without you, no offense,
but clearly yeah, that's how we thought of him. And
you even more than I because you're younger than I am.
I'm almost that age.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
You're almost the age.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yes, I'm months away. And I think Johnny ce' is
a little older than me, so I think he probably
is that age. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Wow, I haven't since.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
I haven't seen well.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
The last time I saw him was when we did
the uh the reunion thing. It looked great and he
looked amazing.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, I want to get him to come on this.
When we did some we had some sort of group
email about hey, do you guys want to do X,
Y or Z and and everyone was like sure, sure,
suret you know, we we almost all always say yes
because it means we get to all get together and
have a drink and make each other laugh. And and
Ken was like, I'm moving. I I've got a lot
going on. And I was like my feelings were I mean,

(37:30):
I know it wasn't personal, but I was on like, Ken,
you know you can you can take a couple of
hours off from moving and comes outde to us. But nah,
I got a lot going on.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
I got ship to do. It sounds it sounds like work.
I got shipped to do.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
And then and it was kind of a Kirk goodbye.
It was like it was like very kelso it was like,
but good to hear from you all.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
I remember that. But I find it interesting that it
was an email and you've put a voice to it
of a grouchy to move to.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
The funny thing is about like people always ask you, like,
what what people cast members are like? And I said
the most different from his character was Ken Jenkins, because
he was the sweetest man you ever met in your
whole life, and he was playing this you know, tough jerk.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yes, And I noticed that on the episode that it
was early on obviously the first season, and everyone was
still a little bit one dimensional. I don't want to
say that's not exactly true, but Ken was. I'm like,
look how mean Ken is being? Like in the pilot
when he turned into a demon for a minute, he
was still in that mode of well guess what sport?

(38:36):
Nobody cares that sort of thing. By the end, he
was like this kindly old doddering man used to having
a nice ruffin Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
And also at the bar and the Bahamas. Like you know,
he began I think Bill finally, like evell one episode.
Early on here in season one, we showed that back
back in the day used to write love song ungs
on the guitar to his wife. I think Bill was
beginning to plant seeds of him having a softer side.
But you're right by the end of the season. By
the end of the show, he was a sweetheart or

(39:09):
more of a spearhart.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
And uh like Ted was sort of his best friend,
wasn't he They were.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
At the end of the show.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Yeah, in this one he calls him Ned.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
He's still all these years that we assume that that
Ted has been working for him, he still doesn't know
his name. He calls him Ned.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yeah, but that went away. I mean, yeah, they became
kind of buddies.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
I found it very crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
I thought it was crazy that Ted has been plotting
against kelso.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, so long he's hired hit man.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
He's hired, right, He's like, I know a hitman. You
and I we can do it.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
That was a really funny part of this episode where
we have that long, uncomfortable laugh because he mentions that
he knows a guy who can end it all, and
then we have that long, uncomfortable laugh and then he's like, no, seriously.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Just one phone call.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
So that means that Sammy as Sam Ted, has found
a He's got a hit man ready to go whenever
the time is right.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
He just needs somebody to He needs somebody to be like, no,
you're right, we should kill this fucker.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
He just needs it. Yeah, someone's second. The emotion it was,
I hadn't seen Sam's face since he passed away, and
it was nice, but you know, strange, see Sam.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, man, we've been we've been talking about that on
the podcast and and how obviously it's caused me to
look even closer at his work on the show and
just how incredibly funny he was. We recently just watched
an episode where he and Judy. I don't know if
you remember this one, Neil or he and Judy serenade
a patient and sing this beautiful harmony together and it
was so moving. I mean, obviously because he passed away,

(40:50):
but it just it just really it just really just
drove it home how how incredibly talented a guy he was.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Yeah, that was his character added a nice came in handy.
You know, the so many shows that succeed, I think
build a world of supporting characters and that you can
go to or just like probably number one would be
The Simpsons. They have like a poster and there's two
hundred recognizable characters in that. Yeah. Of course, give me

(41:20):
thirty years and maybe I could do that too. With
a TV show, They've had a lot of time to
add characters. But Scrubbs did a good job of that.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah, and you know Bill, Bill always called him his assassins,
those people like you know Bob Condenen or Matt Winston
or or Phil Lewis who played hooge Rob Mashio who
became well Rob had a bigger part than those guys.
But I mean just mean, like you know, think about
Phil Lewis who came on and would do I don't

(41:49):
know how many episodes he did total, but.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
He's directing now.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, yeah, he's yeah, he's doing very well as a Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
I mean, I don't know if if this happens to you, Donald,
but I'll be walking down the street and people say, hey,
love on the show. Who is crazy? And it's like
a little slogan about Phil Lewis's character, and he must
have done like a handful. I mean, that's the amount
of influence. Sorry, that's the amount of impact he had
on fans because they were just like they loved him
so much.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Well, remember it started off as Turner and Hooch, where
Tom Hanks's brother came on as Turner and Phil Lewis
played Hooch and they had this whole little adventure that
they went on together as Turner and Hooch in the
hospital they got. Yeah, they somehow got paired together. One
of them was a medical doc and one of them
was a surgeon, and they would tag team a bunch
of patients, right, and if.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
He was a play elaborate way for the writers to
get a Turner and Hoo's shoke.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
It, right, But they got Tom Hanks's brother to play
the Turner character, just like in the movie. Right, And
then somehow it turned into this whole story with Phil
coming back as this crazy ass doctor. But when it
originally happens, the two of them are you know, he's
not crazy or anything like that. Then it turned into

(42:59):
it turned into us joking around like, oh.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Who just crazy? Who just so crazy. And then by
the end of it is not that he is genuinely crazy.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
People people love that, but no, no, no, not joking.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Who is fucking like dangerous?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah? Like and then and then there was an episode
where you put like someone was it me? Or you
put bully on cubes in the shower head.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah, which funny y'all put in the shower
and we're sitting there shoying.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Like he's like.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Him with him with the crack lighter that goes like
you know, six.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
That's a very popular gift. I always use hooch with
like a six inch lighter flame.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
By the way, I remember a funny thing about Tom
Hanks's brother who was on the show. He did the
voice for one of the toy story things, not not
the not the movies, but like I don't know if
it was like a book or or something. Yeah, something
that Tom Hanks couldn't be bothered to do, and he
he had a similar voice, so so he would just
throw him, you know, I guess being generous to his brother,

(44:05):
like here, you do some of this stuff, and uh.
And I just remember learning for the first time that
then you know that he that he did some of
the non movie stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
A little trivia for you out there, just.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
A little trivia.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Elliott is into some kinky stuff, right, I mean, I
just realized that this is a runner through the series.
This episode opens up with her talking to Scott Foley
about being wanting to be called a bad girl, and
they're gonna go shopping or stop by her house for
a schoolgirl outfit. And then I sill started thinking about
all these times in the in the series where Elliott's
got some some some some kink. She likes to role play.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah, she likes it, the dirty stuff. She like the
dirty talk. I think that's even one of my lines
in the show. Oh she likeed the dirty talk this episode. No,
not in this episode, but like later on in the series,
I know, I say something.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
And then later on when she and Folly are making out,
she's like say intercourse, like she's got these weird kings.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's I I yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
I remember there was one where I was like an
apple thief. I had to be. I was a part
of one of their I don't know if that was
a fantasy or if it was real, but there.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Was one where she climbed up on top of me
on on one of the on a surgical table.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Yeah, that was a fantasy though, That was a fantasy.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Oh yeah, of course, do.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
You remember it was she had a nurse thing on
like a Red Cross things and they had to post
they had to change it to green because no, you
don't use the Red crosses.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Oh that's funny.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
That's a little bit of trivia.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
You can't have sex on a surgical table with the
Red Cross up. We're not going to approve that.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
But if you got the Green one, which is the
medical marijuana one, it's all good.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
It's all good.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Now, it's funny. The Green Cross in the UK just
means pharmacy or normal pharmacy. And now that you live
in we live in California. For those of you who
don't have dispensaries, wherever you are, everywhere there's a medical dispensary,
recreational or or or medical, it's the Green Cross. So
it's funny. When I first moved and spent some time

(46:12):
in London, I was like, wow, they have a lot
of dispensary on every corner.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I laughed out loud at Alma, Right, bring hey, let's
make this quick. I got tickets to bring in a
noise bringing the funk, and I don't want to miss
the noise.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Loma.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
She had a couple of good lines in that episode.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah, she really.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
She really does nail it every time. No, like you, you're.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Absolutely right about the cast of characters that came after
the Core seven.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
It's like everyone always seemed to nail their jokes, you
know what I mean. And and and it's it's a
I don't know if Bill had a thing where it's like,
if you didn't nail the jokes, she didn't come back.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
But that is kind of the thing.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
If you're not funny, you're not coming back.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
I would love to know the people that he had.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
We don't want to We don't want him out.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Of Oh, I'm not gonna put on this is conversation
to have with him one at another time.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
But I would know.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
But I mean, you can know in your head there
were there were people that that could have easily what
happened with Neil is is the ultimate example. Neil Neil
was in the pilot and Bill was like, I'm making
this guy series regular. Whereas whereas there's people who did
one or two and he's like, all right, well it
was nice meeting you. What about you skipped something and
I wanted to talk to you about it. When when

(47:35):
Judy touches your belly and goes bink and who's she goes,
who's your new friend?

Speaker 3 (47:40):
I didn't. I didn't. I didn't want to that.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Oh you wanted to skip that?

Speaker 3 (47:44):
I didn't want to skip it.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
But you know, I when I when I was watching
the show, I was like, and this is where my
eating habits changed, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Like, but but I have a question because I think
it's just a story point because when they cut to
you later running with Johnny C and you're in the gym,
you look fit as hell. So this didn't come out
of the writers being like, oh, Donald's gained a few
did it?

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Listen?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Didn't look like you had listen back then. I was
one hundred and seventy five pounds when we started the show, right,
I got up to one hundred and ninety pounds, and
everybody I could feel the you know, where my clothes
didn't fit the same and.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Everything like that season why this happen? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Around season one, you know, you get comfortable when you're
working and stuff like that, and I remember thinking, you know, wow,
I guess I look big on camera now. And you know,
I remember dieting and doing all of these things right,
and at one point, I, you know, I guess I
gained some weight. But this was this became an issue

(48:47):
for me as time went on, where I didn't think
about weight up until scrubbs like, I didn't give a
shit about how I looked or how I was perceived.
I didn't, you know, I just I ate what I
wanted to and you know, I worked out a shit ton.
But then all of a sudden it became okay, no,
you have to work to maintain this weight for the
show or it's gonna be in the script.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
And people, wait, so did anyone ever say anything to
you like you need to lose weight?

Speaker 4 (49:14):
No?

Speaker 2 (49:14):
But I once heard and I'm gonna call Sarah out
on this, but I once heard Sarah. You know, while
we were filming talking to a bunch of people like yo,
somebody hit me up on a chat line and was like, yo,
is Donald Faison on a Krispy Kreme diet?

Speaker 3 (49:28):
And I was like yo.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
And I remember being like, yeah, I don't want a
Krispy Kreme diet, but it gives a shit, dude.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
It's funny because the story of Turk in the show
is that doctors get so busy they don't have time
to exercise their stress eating, and it's kind of what
happened to you as an actor on the show. We
had crazy hours. There's a giant craft service table with donuts,
and you know.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
And I love first of all, I love donuts. Let's
let's keep it one hundred, like, is that your favorite thing?
For my birthday, my wife bought me a donut machine.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
You think I'm fucking bullshitting. She went on Amazon and
got me a commercial grade donut making machine, dude.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
And I found that they go down like the little just.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Like at Krispy Kreme. And I was like, you got
that shit and she was like yeah. I was like,
we got to look at the dimensions on how big
this thing is. This shit's like fifty six inches, like
it's like a six foot whatever six feet is. It's
like a six foot long track and it makes donut.
It doesn't make like one donut at a time, it
makes like seven, It makes a dozen donuts at a

(50:31):
fucking time. Dude, and I'm like, holy shit. I even
cent her. I was like, babe, is there a way
that we can return this? And she was like yeah,
but it has to get here first.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Now I know me. Once it gets here, I'm gonna
make donuts on thathing.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
It hasn't come yet.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
It hasn't come yet.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
The way it happened was because I'm going through Amazon.
And you know how once you once you buy something
on Amazon, it hits you with if you like this,
if you since you bought this, you know.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
You might like this.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
And I was like, hold up, why are all these
donut machines showing up?

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Well, that's not gonna help you, diet, bro, if you
have a donut machine in your.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
House, I've come up with it.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I've come up with an idea on what i want
to do with this with said donut machine, what I
am going to make Donnie's donuts. Okay, and I'm gonna
sell donuts to the masses. I'm gonna I'll sell about
you know, it makes like a dozen donuts at a time.
I'll sell I don't know, maybe five dozen donuts a day.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Okay. The out of your front door.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Not out of the front door.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
I'll do it on sets or something like that where
i'll you know, where I'll you know, if you have
a and you're.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Not gonna have to charity, you're just gonna pocket that money, right,
this is your side.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Like, yeah, man, I gotta pay for that donut machine.
That shit costs a lot of money. I know my
wife bought it for me, but you know it comes
out of my motherfucking pocket.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Now, don't funny. I never realized until now. Is like
when you have a joint bank account with your wife
and or your partner whatever, and then give you like
a really expensive present, it is part of you, like U, Yeah,
but what the fuck? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I'm sure my wife thinks that way too, Like how
much The first thing she says every time I buy something?
How much did it costs? Don't worry about it? Don't
worry about you know, don't you worry about it? I looked,
I got I had the opportunity to see how much
the donut machine costs, because.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
I can't wait to see the commercial doughnut machine in
your house.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
When this is all said and done, I invite you
all over, come over. I'll make donuts for you.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
All right, well, I didn't realize it was a sore
spot for you, and uh so, But anyway, it was
written in the script that Turk has gained some pounds.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Well it turns out that Turk gets diabetes too because
of his eating habits, and you know, me like yeah,
like uh yeah, later on Turk gets diabetes.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Literally my diabetes, my diabetes.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
But I remember thinking, you know, your real life would
somehow wind it like I don't have diabetes, but your
real life would somehow wind its way up into the script,
you know what I mean. And I remember I started
I was losing my hair at a very young age,
and Bill wrote into the script the reason why Turk
doesn't grow his hair out is because it's patchy.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
And I remember being like, oh, hold.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
On, I just on your head.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Not so much in the front, not so much on
the front, but like on the sides.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
He just has a big, big, receding hairline. But it
looks good anyway. I like the way it looks. But
you just made me think you could do a mohawk,
which would be cool.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
It would be like really thin in the front and
then it would get really thick in the back though,
which was not really the dopest.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Mohawk on the plant.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
But anyway, I remember being I remember him doing that
and being like, wait, hold on a second, Bill thinks
I can't grow hair, and I loved not legitim.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
So there's like a there's.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Like six episodes where Turk has a full head of hair,
just because I was like, there's no way I'm gonna
let anybody think that I can't grow noith Like it
became personal at some points, and this was one of
those moments with the donut where it was like, when
I was watching, I was like in this that I
think this is where it all went down where I
started to realize, oh, I have to be in a
certain shape for things. I have to look a certain

(54:15):
way because before that I didn't care about it and
I was still working right.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Well, don't you feel that way now?

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Though?

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Still when you when you get jobs that like when
you did when you were on imergions for a year,
did you feel like that you wanted to be in
good shape for the camera.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
No, I just wanted to look fresh in the face
for camera, Like these are things that I've like, I've
learned that my drinking habits and my marijuana habits have
made it so that, you know, if I don't take
time off from it, you can see it in my face,
you know what I mean. I look at pictures at
us when we were kids, and we and when we
would go to the parties and everything like that, and

(54:49):
we'd drink at the parties, and you could literally see
in our faces and pictures.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Yeah, those guys are fucking wasted.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
And as I've gotten older, that's lasted much longer than it.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
If I drink on Tuesday, you know, I gotta wait
until like Friday, until it's all gone out of my
out of my face, so I have, you know, real
big bags under my eyes. And same thing with smoking.
So when I went and did Emergence, I cut out
all booze and alcohol for for for a long period
of time. I mean boos in marijuana for a long

(55:22):
period of time.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
And I don't know what it is, egent.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
No one I did, No one didn't, no, no one
watched it.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
It didn't emerge, it did.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
It didn't emerge the way the way I wanted to.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
You know, Neil, both Donald and I, as you know,
because you helped me with some press which I really appreciate.
As you know, Donald and I both had ABC shows,
and unlike The Middle, they both completely bombed.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Yeah, they didn't make it.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (55:48):
The Middle was an ABC show?

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Right? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Was it? ABC Studios? Also Born and Brothers Warner Brothers,
Warner Brothers for ABC.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
We were ABC for NBC or originally and NBC was like, no,
We're going to pass on it, and ABC was like, oh,
well we'll pick it up and we went a full season.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
And are you still sad about it? How are you
feeling about it?

Speaker 3 (56:12):
I'm fine. I you know, I how long?

Speaker 1 (56:14):
How long? Like how long do you pout about something
like that? Well, like I have bad news, I think
I pout for like a few days and I'm like,
all right, fuge it.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Yeah, I didn't pout that long about this one.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
I loved the show, and I loved the cast members,
and I loved working with everyone.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
But it was in Jersey and.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Not that I have something not that I have something
wrong with Jersey, but coming out of a pandemic and
going back to work in New Jersey and leaving.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
On behalf of the Garden State. I think the point
is that you didn't want to be separated from your family.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Wasn't that like let me if you, if you let
me finish coming out of a pandemic and going back
to Jersey, which I had a great time in Jersey
and I love Jersey and leaving my kids back in
Los Angeles again, it would fuck them up, you know.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
What I mean?

Speaker 4 (57:01):
I understand that I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to uh
do a show in another state. Maybe the time will come,
but I think I don't.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
I agree, Neil, I I wouldn't. I would do a
film obviously anywhere, but I wouldn't sign on. I don't think,
and I mean I'll mark mark my words. I'm sure
there'll be an occasion where I might change my mind,
but right now I think to commit long term to something,
it would be New York or LA where where I'm
based and I have you know, and I'm I'm like Donald,
I don't have kids yet, but I'm still in a

(57:39):
place where I don't. I don't want to go move
to to Stad where I always choose DoD as my
random city. It's it's a I believe it's a ski
town in Switzerland.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
It's straight out of coming a trading place places where
Dan Ackroyd's at the pawn shop trying to sell the
watch and the dude's like fifty bucks. He's like fifty bucks. No,
this is a such and such. It tells time in
New York, London, La and Stad.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
I think it's like the Aspen of the Alps. It's
like a fancy ski town, which, by by the way,
it was a horrible example for my story because I
should have picked a place no one wants to live.
Maybe I would like to live in the Aspen of
the Alps. Are going to take a quick break and
then Neil, we take a guest with the show. Who's
gonna have an awesome question for one of us? I'll
bet we watch how with that?

Speaker 4 (58:29):
And I like that theme. By the way, it's very churchy.

Speaker 9 (58:40):
Yeah, yes, yes, we speaking of churchie. Dude, do you
remember the church episode where we did it in the
hospital cafeteria and you had the freaking uh straw hat?

Speaker 3 (58:51):
What was it? What kind of hat is that where
it's like a straw.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Hat and really along with.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
It, Yeah, I think you had, Neil. I think you
had a tambourine.

Speaker 9 (59:02):
As I recall that could be Gody Samuel Center.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Is in the house.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
That's Samuel Center. Joelle. Do you have any special introduction
you want to make up Samuel Center or should we
just start talking to Samuel Center.

Speaker 6 (59:15):
Just get right on into it.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Hello, Samuel Wall.

Speaker 7 (59:19):
Beautiful people, this is crazy.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
It is crazy.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
You are a professional dude. You came with the mic
popping thing.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Donald needs one of those because he spits everywhere.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
So I have a spit problem.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Yeah, Dan, can you get Samuel has for those of
you listening, has one of those very fancy circle things
you put in front of a mic, and and Donald
needs one of those dances.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
I have one. I have one.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
No, well, we need it. We need it now.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
It's probably called the spit guard or yes, spitshield.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
You know when I first saw the spit guard was
in the We Are the World music video, and that's
where I also sold that you were supposed to hold
your headphones like this over one ear so you can hear, yeah,
to hear the harmonies when.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
You're down and out, and.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
If you care, if you think you look better without
headphones on your head, I think that's how you hold
the headphones.

Speaker 7 (01:00:07):
Right y, Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Mike didn't want to mess up the freaking right, Neil.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
All the people that knew they were shooting a video
were like, you know what, man, But if you just
believe we should do a Donald, we should do an
episode of this where we recreate the video and we
each take turns playing different characters in the song.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Yeah, sure, man, I fucking did that as a kid.
I used to do that as a kid. I could
do it as an adults.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I used to love that. I would watch that over
and over and over again. Anyway, Sorry, Samuel, where are
you calling?

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Samuel Center?

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Okay, it's Oprah. Where are you calling from, Samuel?

Speaker 7 (01:00:44):
I'm calling from a small town called Cloak in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Cloque, Minnesota.

Speaker 7 (01:00:50):
We got it the far North.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Welcome. You have Neil Flynn with us today, and that's
Donald doing his best Oprah. And and do you have
a question for us anything? Ask us anything?

Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
Ask you anything? What happens when we die?

Speaker 6 (01:01:05):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:01:06):
Wow, No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, don't you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Thanks for coming on, everybody. Can you play the music
that drives it off?

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Go ahead, you've got a real question.

Speaker 7 (01:01:19):
Go ahead, I do I have a real question for you.
First of all, thank you for all of the years
of entertainment. This is such a thrill to meet you guys. No,
it's incredible. Thank you. So in terms of entertainment, you
guys have been there for You've been in the business
for so long and just seeing how things change, and
it feels like people's attention spans are getting shorter and shorter.

(01:01:39):
And mister Flynn, uh, such an improv comedy genius. And
Zach you're a writer, and mister Faison, you just kind
of embody what cool is to me. And you've been
doing I mean since Clueless.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:01:51):
My sister was begging to Clueless. And I can't tell
you how much I look up to you and have
tried to emulate some of the style that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
You have accepted and received accept.

Speaker 7 (01:02:01):
But as days have changed in people's attention spans have
gotten shorter. How do you feel yourselves adapting as entertainers,
writers and improv comedy people. Do you feel like you've
had to shift the way you approach things or do
you feel like you've kept it the same to just
stay true to your art or how does that feel
on your end?

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
That's a good question. Know, they just came out with
this service that as I understand, it isn't doing as
well as anyone hoped. Called Quibi, which is basically like
ten minute episodes you can watch on your phone, which
I would have thought would do well because people are
commuting and they're sitting in a doctor's office, and for
all I know it will do well one day. But
that I was thinking of of that service when you

(01:02:37):
said that. The biggest thing I noticed is that whenever
I do anything, if it's a TV show, if it's
a film, if it's a music video, if it's a documentary,
everyone writes me on Instagram when second be on Netflix.
It's as though it's like the only thing most people
watch anymore. So that's always on my mind. When I'm

(01:02:57):
going out and I'm pitching a new idea, I'm always
kind of like, well, I I you know, Netflix has
so much content, but in my mind, I'm thinking, like,
I kind of want this to be on Netflix because
that's what everybody seems to watch these days. Whenever you know,
I'll I like when we were talking briefly about the
ABC show I did alex Inca that it didn't didn't
last or work that well. But I remember when I

(01:03:19):
was promoting it. I was just doing anything I could
to promote it, anything, anything, anything, and then everyone was like,
sounds great, Zach, when's it on Netflix? And I'm like, well,
it's not. It's it's on ABC. It's it's not, it's
not gonna be on Netflix. But I don't know. That's
what I just got thinking about that. What about you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
I feel like it's, well, you know, while we're in
this downtime, I'm trying to you know, I got a
couple of other voices, trying to develop something, you know,
to do when when we can start to work again. Yeah,
And it's really I've never done that before. I've never
helped create a show, but I feel like to start

(01:03:57):
a new show now, I don't think attention spans are
any order. Necessarily, people are watching stuff. It's just not
the same stuff they used to watch. And there's more
TV than there ever was. And I feel like, if
you're going to start something from the ground up, you
can't just do family, living room multi cam, you know,

(01:04:19):
it feels like that's gone. There has to be something
a hook to the show. Yeah, and whether it's you know,
I don't know what really shows they're doing with a
period piece or you know, real people like I don't know,
the Kennedy's or something, or the Queens and Kings or
something fantastical or outer space, or it just feels like

(01:04:40):
you can't do that. The time has passed through the
Johnson family.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Although you just gave me a genius idea to do
a traditional like living room sitcom, but it's Kings and
Queen's in a castle.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
I would do it, except they live on like the
set of the Cosby show, the Kings and Queen, but
they just have anion.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
But they're they're royals, and they've been transported from a
from another era, but and they don't really know why
they're there. But they live in this this you know,
suburban house.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
That could work, or that could have worked in nineteen
eighty six.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
You know, come on, man, if ALF could.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Work, I was just gonna say ALF. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
We talked about ALF extensively in one of these episodes,
because I remember as a kid, a child, seeing a
commercial for ALF and being like that's so stupid, No
one's gonna watch that, and then cut to me like
riveted every week like watching ALF?

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
What do you call that? Being kind of funny? I
think it was a kind of a funny show.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
No, it was genius and Max Wright, who is hilarious, Yeah,
played the father.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
What are you doing? Alf?

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
And he notoriously hated being on a puppet show. He
hated every second of it. Oh w he hated the puppet.

Speaker 7 (01:06:00):
Fuck that puppet.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
I would have woke off this set. Fuck you out,
I'm going to trailer Alf, Fuck you.

Speaker 7 (01:06:10):
This is a true story. Alf the puppet was actually
my sleep paralysis demon from like age three to ten.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
Well, I didn't see sleep paralysis demon. What's it about?

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
I have all their music? What is what is a
sleep paralysis demon? For those of us who don't know?

Speaker 7 (01:06:31):
All right, So, sleep paralysis is like this condition where
you're you know, dead asleep and you and if I'm
sure you know, if you don't know, there's chemicals in
your body that were released to paralyze you while you're
sleeping so that you don't get up and run while
you're dreaming. Right, there's things there's a phenomenon that can
happen where you achieve consciousness, but you're still paralyzed by
those things that are keeping you sleeping. And I happen

(01:06:52):
to get that and have since I was a really
little kid. And typically, for whatever reason, whatever you want
to say about the human condition or whatever, when people
are stuck at us, they go to a very dark
space and usually they see something really ugly or terrifying.
And this, I mean it could be anything, it can
be a literal. So so people call them their sleep
paralysis demons. And Alf was literally mine. There was a

(01:07:14):
commercial on TV where Alf pressed his face against the glass.
It is probably from like the premiere episode. And when
I was eight years old. I think specifically, anytime I
would get in the sleep paralysis state, there would be
Alf at the edge of my I be.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Oh, yeah, yeah, it's a frightening thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
And was saying anything to you? Or was he just
he was just him up against the glass at the
foot of your bed.

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
Yeah, it was just him against the glass.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I don't know, man, Do you still have a sleep
paralysis a sleep paralysis demon?

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
And is it still Alf?

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Is it still Alf? No?

Speaker 7 (01:07:50):
Now, it's just uh Now, it's just I was gonna
say something, but I won't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
Now it's it's actually a guy in a suit.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Okay, wow, wow, that's scary.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Well that's very scary. I I that's traumatic. You know, Alf,
I didn't have that much problems with Alf. We brought
it up. We brought it up on the show before.
I didn't know. I don't know if this was in
your sleep paralysis nightmare. But Alf has a tail. We learned,
uh Neil, because I had the stuffed animal for Alf

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and I was a child, and what I would do
is I would take the alf tail and I would
tuck it through its legs and close his legs to
give him a giant erect alf penis.

Speaker 7 (01:08:33):
Mister Braff, You've changed my life in many ways, and
now I want to thank you because now my sleep
paralysis Alf is going to have a big old tail penis.
Thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Now, Sam, I'm gonna feel so bad if it goes
back from man and suit to Alf with an alpha erection.
I apologize, but maybe you'll be able to laugh at him,
just point and laugh at him. Maybe he'll dissipate.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
I'm not sure I understood the question. I thought you
were asking, like how to how.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
He was saying now that in his opinion and an
opinion of others, things are getting shorter and shorter for
short attention spans. Do you think there's any way that
you have adapted the way you perform or evolved things
that you're doing for a shorter attention span, whether it's
anything you do, maybe in your animated videos. You know,

(01:09:20):
I noticed something I'm gonna I'm gonna answer for Donald
and Donald you pipe in. You used to post some
of your stop motion animation longer clips. Now you're posting
very short clips. Do you think that's the human attention span?

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Because at one point I realized that, thank you very much, Zach.
At one point I realized people were not paying attention
past a minute, you know what I mean? Fuck that,
not paying attention past thirty seconds. And so now when
I do when I post animation clips, they're like four
seconds or five seconds, because you know, if anything, they'll

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watch it a couple of times, three or four times
before they move on to the next thing to make
sure they're just to pick up visually what it was
that they saw, you know what I mean. So like
with animation, if it doesn't look right, people don't necessarily
pay attention to it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
And also I have a side question. If you're doing animation,
is it better for you to focus on a short
do a short little segment really really really well, rather
than do work on a full minute that has mistakes
in it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Yeah, it's better to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
In my opinion, if you can do a full minute
of perfect animation, you're great.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
But no movie is like that either though, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
There are very few movies that have scenes that are
a wonder for one minute, you know what I mean.
And if they do do that, it's a special shot.
And so with animation you try to shoot it just
like you would shoot any other project that you put
on film, whether it be movie or television. You want
to make it quick and keep the cuts coming so
that everybody. The faster the pace, the better it is

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with animation. The slower the slower the pace of the story,
the easy it is for people to tune out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Sometimes I send you clips of animation that I think
is cool and you don't even reply, and it hurts
my feelings.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
I'm sorry because I've seen them already.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
But you could say yes, I've seen this.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
I could say yes, I've seen this, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
It's like when my mom sends me my mom send
me a picture of like a bird, and you know, okay,
but I can I still take the time to be
like pretty bird mom. You know you could, you might,
you know, I might say, hey, exact cool animation, saw
this one.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
You know what, from here on out, because I now
know that you're very.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Sensitive when it comes to I am sensitive.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
I will from here on out I will respond with,
oh man, I've seen that already.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
But thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
All right, Samuel, do another question.

Speaker 7 (01:11:43):
I got all kinds of questions, but we'll keep it.
We'll keep it like, uh, just knowing that mister Flynn's there,
which is so cool. I just have to say, I
seriously think you're one of the funniest people that has
ever existed. Especially I told him that too. I say,
I agree, it's just totally true. I'm just you know,
just freeballing here. Let's just say that, yeah, freeballing always,

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which always, you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Don't have to tell us what you're under our.

Speaker 7 (01:12:06):
Situation, sam I said the wrong word under you know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Yeah, this is why Alph won't leave the foot of
your bed. He wants to see those balls.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Oh god, oh Samuel.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
All right, Samuel, go ahead, free ball away Janitor spinoff
of Scrubs.

Speaker 7 (01:12:27):
Let's just say that they brought it back. Let's just
say they got mister Braff and mister Faison uh signed
on his co stars and at least the pilot episode
where would you want to explore the janitor's character down?
What would you want the episode episode? What kind of
stuff would you like to be in?

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
It? Outer space? That's where it's said, we're marooned in
outer space.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
So its short of like a Gilligan's Island type island
on a planet ship?

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Are you on a shipkneel or or on a planet?

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
Uh a ship? And then then like towards the end
of the first season, it lands.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Sort of like sort of like Josie and the pussy Cats,
the janitor and the and the doctors.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
Yes, it's very much like Josie and the pussy Cats. Yeah,
I was hoping you wouldn't notice that I stole up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
So the janitor is also in a band.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Yeah, we're all musicians.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Yeah, Neil, you joke, but I would watch this show.
I mean, neurn't necessarily steal the character from Scrubs, but
you could be. Your character is a janitor on a
on a spaceship, which is a character you never see
who's cleaning who's cleaning these spaceships?

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
Yeah, Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Yes, you watched so much sci fi. Have you ever
seen anyone cleaning up inside any of those ships?

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Never, not even the Millennium Falcon, which is the dirtiest
spaceship in the galaxy.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
No one does any maintenance.

Speaker 7 (01:13:57):
Never ever.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
Maybe Jordie did a little maintenance.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
Well, but Jordy was like he was an engineer though. Man,
he was like, oh, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Right, working like just like like your character would often be,
you be doing something. We joke about, Neil that we
sometimes we're like, you know what, the janitor was actually
a good janitor for he was he really worked a lot.
He was always doing ship and uh and you always
always were actually working.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
I would have said the opposite. There was oftentimes I
would say, should I be doing something? I'm constantly just
walking around a corner with nothing in my hands. You know,
what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Wasn't there a time when when when someone a director
said to mop in the admissions and you're like, there's
a carpet.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Anyway, I'm very interested, Neil in developing this year a
chanitor on a spaceship series.

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
Okay, yeah, because if it's a it's about three guys
that they're marooned out in space. Okay, well what did
they do beforehand? Were they scientists or.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
They were on a mission? Donald and I were were.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
The well two guys were on a mission and one
guy was cleaning the ship for them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
No, no, no, no, Donald, Donald, that's what it was. Yeah,
Donald and I are on a mission. And part of
this mission. Because there's been a lot of complaints about
cleanliness and spaceships, they sent along a member of the
janitorial stuff to keep the ship clean while they're on
their mission.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
And then once it, once it crashes or whatever, the
status you know, the totem pole is scrambled. Yes, right, yeah,
Now the scientists, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Scared shitless, and the janitor is like, I can handle
this because follow my lead.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Yeah, the janitor janitor becomes the captain.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Yes, and maybe maybe Donald and I are injured, so
we can't really do much, but the janitor takes over.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Well, we don't have to be injured. We just have
to be like kind of like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Not really good with other things other than piloting in science.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
No survival skills whatsoever, whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
That's good Neil. So Neil's character is like, not only
was he working for a custodial staff, but he was
an amazing survivalist. And Donald and I don't know anything
about how to survival on this random planet.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Our journey could have been just we were supposed to
go to the International Space Station, right, and that's it.
And somehow we got knocked off course by some crazy
ass gamma wave or some type of microwave or something
like that, and it sends us into a wormhole and
we wind up in this fucking galaxy where we don't
know shit about anything, right, but and don't know how

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to survive other than if we were to be, you know,
on an International space station.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
And Neil Flynn janitor, Hey, you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
Know what, I just thought of something. We didn't star Trek.
They went to different planets and stuff, right, Yes, they
never wore helmets, pursuits.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Those ever they had oxygen and those all those planets
had oxygen.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
They were all supporting planets.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Yeah right, Apparently imagine they made that decision early on.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Well, I imagine, like you said, with the headphones not
looking good, I'm sure that what's his name, Captain Kirk
was like, you're not putting the helen on this.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
It was like no way to.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Chattner. Yeah, so that's the idea. Joel, will you produce?
Joel will produce. Thank you, We're off to the races.
Samuel sank you for calling in, my friend.

Speaker 7 (01:17:33):
Oh, it's such a pleasure to meet everybody. Thank you
very much.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Thank you awesome and good luck and listen, don't let
those monsters keep you in bed. Be safe.

Speaker 7 (01:17:42):
Now, I'm going to show my balls and laugh at him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
That's okay, And that's a lesson for everybody out there.
If you're ever afraid, show them your balls and just
laugh at them.

Speaker 7 (01:17:53):
Well, I'll see you in jail.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Maybe not. Donald's like, well, I'm never mind.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
By man, take care.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Oh my god, I have so many questions.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
Back to space Janitor, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Neil's like furiously taking notes about that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
Yes I am. I wonder if part of it should
be a game show, or maybe the whole thing a
game show. Just for some reason, we're sticking with this,
these these elements that are a Janitor lost in space. Okay,
Carter family. What is the capital of shod.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
For the stop.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
And believe it or not, Neil starts with a G.
There's a silent G. Yeah, Joel check is G s
T A A D if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
God, that reminds me of DJIBOUTI. I think it's pronounced
this episode with an N.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
I think a D starts with you're right, you're right? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
But I remember when we used to do the show.
You used to do crossword puzzles.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
Did I? Yeah, I'm going through phases.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Yeah, the New York Times probably yeah, and you would do.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
I remember.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
I never I suck at spelling, and I also suck
at crossword puzzles. But would you ever get to would
you ever get to the Sunday one? Have you ever
you know what I mean? Like I hear the Sunday
ones are the real hard ones. Monday it gets easy
and then yeah, that just goes it gets more difficult.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
And ask if you could finish a Sunday is what
you're asking.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
I'm asking.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
I'm asking how deep into the week would you get?
Because I know there were times where you would you know,
I remember asking you one you'd be like, oh this
is from like a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
Hmm, oh really, well that's you know, it depends on
how yeah hard your work sometimes you just pick it
up for ten minutes and go on about your day.
But I haven't done one in a long time. But yes,
I used to completely most of the time the same day,
within an hour or two.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
I was always jealous of people that could.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
I was. I think, at least what I know to
be true, is it actually Saturday is the hardest day.
Sunday's a big puzzle. Sunday's like the super sized puzzle.
It's not necessarily harder.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
So it builds the Saturday, and then Sunday's a bigger one,
and Monday's the easiest. I feel like I have maybe
done a Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
I've never I remember somebody saying that to me and
being like, oh, okay, let me get the one on Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
I just don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
And I realized you had to you had well, you
had to read the paper too.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
That was the ons.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
I didn't know a lot of trivia. I mean, I
could do it if it was like you know, no,
you three letters star of a sitcom alien puppet.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
This is a nice, nice callback.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Thank you, thank you. It means a lot to me.
We barely talked about the episode, but we should talk about
the Saint Elsewhere cast that was visiting in this. Did
you guys, either one of you watch Saint Elsewhere back
in the day?

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
I did so in Denzel.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Yeah else Was it Denzil's first role.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
I don't know if it was his first role, but
I know he was on Saint else him and Howie Mandel.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
Wasn't the theme song.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
Like that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
And that that something like that?

Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
Yeah, that sounds very familiar.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
I visited the set once my parents watched it. I
believe it was Bruce Paltrow, Gwyneth Paltrow's father, who was
a very big showrunner then, who produced it with others.
And my dad knew someone. We were visiting La and
my dad knew someone. We got onto the set. It
was like the first, like real big TV set. Interestingly,
I'm thinking about this out loud. The first real set

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I ever visited was was a hospital set which was
saying Elsewhere, And I think it was beyond my It
was too old for me as a child, but I
remember my parents really loving it. Juelle just told me
that Denzel made his feature film debut in the comedy
A carbon Copy, and and then he was That was
eighty one and then he was cast in the So

(01:22:06):
it's the second part probably, and he was on he
was on Sathing else Where eighty two to eighty eight.
That'd be cool to go back and watch a young Denzel.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
On that show.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Well he's been.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
The crazy thing is he's barely on the show, like
he was one of the Yeah, you know, they didn't
use him a lot on the show, and which was
which turned out to be great for him because he
would be able to go and do movies instead of
you know what I mean. They were like, well, you're
not on the show this week, and he'd be like, oh, okay,
well there's this dude doing this project.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
You know, I'm going to sign on and do it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
Then.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
So, like I remember Cry Freedom coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
I remember that movie, you know what I mean, him
and that's.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
An amazing movie. If you haven't seen it, Cry Freedom.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Cry Freedom. Him and Fish called Wander No it was
Kevin Klein. Yeah, and so I remember they did. I
remember that came out, and I remember being like, holy cow,
the dude from and this is when my parents were
like informing me, no, this guy is an amazing actor.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
He's done.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
He did theater in New York you know what I mean,
he's now blowing up as an actor. You should really
check out if you because you know, I wanted to
be an actor at an early age. They were like
Denzel Washington and they showed me Cry Freedom and I
remember being like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
This is the most amazing movie ever.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Yeah, that was incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
And uh and I was very young when I came out.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
And then you know, from that Mississippi Massala and you know,
The Mighty Quinn and a bunch of other movies.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
But yeah, then Glory eventually of course.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Glory, Yeah, Glory.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Glory was one of the first times as a child
that I that I knew who he was. And I've
just never seen a performance better than that performance than Glory.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
By the time Glory came out, I was well versed
in Denzel Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
William go ahead, I was.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Just gonna say that for me. William Daniels is the
voice of Kit. Yeah, and when when William Daniels started
speaking in this episode, I had forgotten. I went, oh
my god, it's kid. Yeah, well he was the voice
of wat Oh yeah, you never watched night Rider. He's
a little bit older than us, so that Donald and

(01:24:14):
I were right in the pocket for a team and
night Rider and.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Did you ever watch a team?

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
No? Oh? Ver?

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
Well, you know, I went to Universal Students and I
was a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
We went to Universal Studios the tour and they had
a night Rider car and you could get in it
and the car would talk to you, and it was
amazing in hindsight as an adult they obviously had a
hidden camera and a guy sign, but as a child
that was like, holy shit, it's kit And I just
remember thinking was the coolest. And he would, you know,

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he would say things to try and show off that
he could see you. It'd be like I like you,
I like your blue shirt, and and I'd be like,
oh my god, cat. But they didn't have it. Wasn't
it wasn't to William Daniels sitting in some room somewhere.

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
Probably not.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
No, I don't think they paid his rate.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Did he go on to do Boy Meets World after
all of that, after Night Rider and everything? Wasn't he
like the next door neighbor William Daniels, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
Yes, but he I don't know about Boy Meets the World,
but certainly it would have been after Sante elsewhere wasn't
he I think I'm mixing him up with somebody else.
But wasn't he in the graduate? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
I don't know. I don't know. That's a good question.

Speaker 4 (01:25:30):
He might Dustin Hoffman's dad, the.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
One who says plastics? Is he the one who says plastics?

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
No, but that's in their yard.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
That's right. That's a neighbor, right, or a friend.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
Yeah, I can picture him saying Benjamin Benjamin. And if
it's not him, it's an actor.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
That Joel's checking reminds me of each other. And then
at Atlee and also Stephen First, who was famously an
animal House. Yeah, have you seen Animal House? Donald?

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
I have seen that. Yes, I have seen animal.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
I saw Animal House the night before I left for college.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
College was college like animals?

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Live up to it?

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
Not? Well, you know, it wasn't quite the same. But
I did join a fraternity, probably influenced by that somewhat.
It seemed like they were having fun.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
Yeah, did you toga?

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
I don't think we ever did a toga thing. That
would be a little too on the nose.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Dude, what's up with the zombie movie? All of a sudden,
in the middle of this episode, out of nowhere it
turned into a zombie movie.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
I know it was Mark Buckland directing. I remember, and
I remember it was kind of like a wide angle
lens and trying to do all sort of a zombie film.
I thought that was weird too. Did you notice it? Sorry,
I'm going I'm jumping around, but it's seven oh three.
I don't know if you noticed this, but the score
all of a sudden has like record DJ scratching in it.
Did you notice that?

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
I didn't notice there's like a score queue, like all
of a sudden, it's like no fun.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Prince of bel Air. Oh wait, so Joel is saying
that Joel, are you saying that he was in the
graduate then he was? Indeed?

Speaker 6 (01:27:07):
Sorry, yes he was in the graduate Neil, You're.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Right, okay, all right, there you go, Daniels.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
So in this episode, you know, JD's all word that
he has gotten sick from uh. And I remember when
I was a kid, I just felt invincible, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
And you know, even with even.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
With things that I shouldn't have been, even with things
that I shouldn't have been doing where I should have
been using protection, I felt like invincible, like you know,
motorcycles whatever, whatever it was, where I should have, you know,
wore a helmet. I didn't, you know what I mean?
And because of that, I got a lot of kids.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
But the thing is, are you that way?

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Are using a cryptic analogy because your daughter is on
your lap? Yes, I see, I followed it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Now, Yeah you didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
You didn't wear a helmet when you were on your motorcycle.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
But the fear of disease or hurting myself in any
way never came across my mind.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
You didn't think about things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Now I have nothing but fear when it comes to
that stuff, you know what I mean. And it's it's
it's I noticed that I've because of the situation that
we're in, and you know, because of isolation and and
quarantine and everything like that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
I treat people a lot differently because of that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
And Ted the lawyer does that to j D at
one point where he's like he's trying to play it
off where he is, you know, things will be fine,
and then he's like, hey, don't you want your pin back?

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
JD's like, don't you want your pin back? And the
look and Ted's like, you know, keep.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
It, yeah, and that's kind of how I am now,
you know what I mean, Like when when the we
get groceries delivered, now they knock on the door, or
I'll wait a minute before I go to the door,
just to make sure that the air around the door
isn't you know, Like if we were in a room
right now and Neil you would have coughed like that,

(01:29:11):
I'd been like you, okay, man, I.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Was coughing last night and I was like, oh my god,
my girlfriend must totally think I'm sick. I don't know
if you guys are conscious of that. You're like, now
you cough in public and you're like, no, no, I'm fine, No, no.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
No, no, I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
I'm fine.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
And and that's you know, this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
You know everybody needs first of all, everybody needs to
first of all chill out, you know what I mean.
I know that this is a very dangerous and scary
time for us and everything like that, but you're you're
always jumping to the worst case scenario, you know what
I mean. You you have a you have a you know,
a feeling in your foot, you jump online and the
next thing you know, you've got gird. You know, you're

(01:29:51):
telling everybody, I've got I've got a gout, you know
what I.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
Mean, your digestify on your toes.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
You're fucked, Yeah, you're fucked right, But you know what
I mean, It's like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
If everyone's like that down You and I might be
a neurotic and looking everything up and thinking we've got
something bad, whereas other people might be like, no, I'm fine.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
I don't know that many people that are that think
that way, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
I think there's a fear. We talked about this earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
There's a fear of going to the hospital and finding
out that something's wrong. So I think a lot of
people when something does come up there like, ah, you
know what, I'm not going to find out about it.
If it's really bad, it'll kick my ass later on
and then I'll have to go to the hospital and
they'll fix it thin. But you know, for Jay, for
me personally nowadays, with this episode did for me when

(01:30:39):
watching it was like it made me realize I have
a real phobia when it comes to germs now, and
I have a real phobia when it comes to other
people's germs now. And it has a lot to do
with what we're going through. But I didn't have that
shit when I was a kid, I wasn't afraid of
things like this, you know what I mean. There were
people that got stuck with me when we were doing

(01:30:59):
the show. A couple of people that accidentally got stuck
with needles, fucking around with the props, you know what
I mean, thinking oh.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
This was fake.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
That would freaked me out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
I would have lost my ship. Nowadays, I'd be like,
I'm dying. I know I'm dead. Sarah was the only
person that I knew. Sarah Schalk was the only person
that I knew that was like that was like if
if she had if she had the chills, it was
it was life for I'm dying.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
I know I'm dying, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
It must be a real thing. I mean, well, how
terrifying for for real medical personnel who who get stuck.
I'm sure on occasion if the person had something serious,
how how scary that would be.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
We're walking around the house. Don't get sick, and don't
break your leg, don't get hurt, you know what I mean.
The kids are playing around like, well, everybody, calm down.
We don't want to go to the hospital. Right now,
now's not the time to go to the hospital.

Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
Well really, there's you know, it's never a good time
to go to the hospital. But uh yeah, I thought
about that, like if you had a appendix.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Right was exact ass cheek, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:01):
I can have my eyes shake removed, But it was
an elective surgery, turns out, so I couldn't have that.
But yeah, you don't want anything to go wrong, You're well,
we'll see, you know, in the next week or so
if any of this people crowding around each other, uh something.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
Well I actually have said I not to be Debbie
Downer towards the end of the episode, but that the
things are spiking back up in LA and uhh, and
no one's talking about it because there's plenty else going
on in the news, as we all know. But I
read I read some articles like why is no one
talking about the new COVID spike in Los Angeles?

Speaker 4 (01:32:41):
I think there's spikes in a lot of places, but
New York is going down so much that it looks
like a flat line for the country.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
You mean, like the national line. Yeah, yes, yes, well yeah,
I fear I fear that that everyone's kind of over it,
you know, people are like, all right, we did fuck it.
We got to get out of the house now. And
and that might be fine if you live in a
place where this isn't as prevalent, but in la it
does appear to be climbing back up.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
And the only reason why we're talking about this right now,
we know we try to get you away from as listeners,
and we try to keep this as a distraction, a
distracted as much as a distraction as possible.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
But this is in the story. Yes, you know what
I mean, and so that's why we.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
That's why, guys, it's in. It's in the episode, and
so you know it's about Scott Foley being left I mean,
listen and Jowell please weigh in as the only female
on the panel. But Scott Folly, Scott Foley being left
alone by Sarah standing there with his roses, it just
felt a little like just so mean. I mean, with Elliott,

(01:33:48):
she found love and or not love necessarily, but she
really liked this guy. He's as bad as charming as
a human being could be. He looks like Scott Foley.
She's like, she leaves him, she leaves him lot m
for it looks exactly like Scott Fowlly, she leaves him
at the door. I mean, I don't know, what are
your thoughts on that?

Speaker 6 (01:34:05):
Yeah, I think okay. So I didn't get into movies
from the seventies until like I was in college. This
is sort of my first experience watching a woman be like, listen,
I like you, but this career I've invested in is
everything to me that we have to pause because it
wasn't even like a solid breakup. She's like, right now,
I can't make this work. And it like, as you know, once,

(01:34:25):
I'm like twelve, and I was like, you could just
leave a dude for work, It's brilliant. I started a
White Boys at that age, and I was like, oh,
so tedious, and so for her to just be like,
I'm gonna work on my stuff, I was like, this
is brilliant. Oh my god, I like this scene.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Oh I okay, there you go, there's the answer. I
was like, I mean, I was impressed by the character
making that choice because the writers really went out of
their way to make sure there was absolutely nothing wrong
with this guy. I mean, he was as dreamy as
it could be. But she was getting distracted from her work,
and she was like look, I really am excited about,
but this is what I've worked my whole life for.

(01:35:02):
So I gotta push you away.

Speaker 4 (01:35:05):
Which he's not gone though, is he.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
No, he does come back.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
But I don't know that she was distracted.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
I think it was how the hospital reacted to her
and the Walk of Shame in the beginning of the episode.
I think that was more of a reason for her
to break up with. You know, Elliott is very worried
about what everyone thinks about her. That's what the character,
that's how the character is, you know. You know, she
even says in the beginning of ninety nine percent of
my life is me trying to impress my dad, you

(01:35:33):
know what I mean. And so I think when the
Walk of Shame thing happened and everyone made fun of her,
I think that's you know, it sent her down the
rabbit hole and she spiraled, and that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
But he was also it wasn't just that Donald she
you know, Kelso's like grilling her and she doesn't know
the answers to questions. It rounds where she always does,
and then she starts getting in her head. At one
point she's like, she can't think of something, and I
like I turned around. I'm like, come on, you know
that she's tired, maybe because she was up all night
playing schoolgirl.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Right, But I think that stems from once again, you know,
Kelso seeing her at the at the scrubs machine and
giving her shit for not having her scrubs her scrubs
that day, you know what I mean. I think, I
don't know, I could be I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
It's probably it's probably both a combination of both. But anyway,
we all know, we all know the spoiler alert that
Scott Fuley comes back. He ends up being an animal.
Is he a marine biologist or an animal trainer at
SeaWorld something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
But what a great scene that was though, too man
where they break up because it looks like it's going.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
One way, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
The miss there's a great misdirection, right, you know, she
breaks she kind of you see her breaking up with
him earlier in the script where he comes to visit
her and she's like, and he's doing all the right things,
and she's getting pissed off that he's doing all the
right things.

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
And then she comes out at the end and it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Seems like she's gotten over all the all of the
bs that she was holding on to because of her
walker shame situation, and then in the middle of it,
she discovers, wait a second, it's not just that I
am distracted because of how perfect you are. And now's
not the time for me to be distracted. Now's the
time for me to be the best I possibly can be,

(01:37:22):
so that in a couple of years, in a few years,
I can find another I can find a guy just
like you and do it all over again, and this
time for Keeps and I feel and the way they
both play the scene is perfect because it really does
feel like Sean is hit by a mac truck because
he doesn't see it coming, you know what I mean.

(01:37:45):
He sees it as Okay, she had a bad day.
I'm going to bring her flowers and cheer her up. Yeah,
And now she's walking back into the hospital and I'm
standing here with a dozen roses.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
I felt bad for him. I'm such a sucker for
the writers. Really how to get me with you know,
love that cannot be I'm like, Oh, this poor guy,
he's like crazy about this girl. He's standing here with
roses and he's like, she's goes, he goes. I'm gonna
be I'm gonna wait here because I know you're gonna
change your mind in two minutes. And she's like, I
hope so, and then she doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
He just and then he trashes the roses.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
Well do you think he trashes the rose or he
leaves them and people just walk all over him. I
couldn't just figure that out.

Speaker 4 (01:38:19):
Yeah, I just thought of that when I first saw
the roses. I thought, yeah, come on, that's a little
bit of a hissy fit.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Like he was jumping up and down on it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
Yes, yes, but the only reason I know that he
doesn't disappear well it, come to think of it. Oh no,
The last episode I guess of season one is somebody's wedding?
Is it Turk and Carlin?

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
No, we don't get married until season three, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
Well, then.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
At the end of season.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
Two when we were shooting that episode.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
He was there in the last episode of the scenes
your wedding.

Speaker 4 (01:38:57):
Yes, was that? Was he?

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
So many fays you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
Know, there's so many fans right now that know the
show better than us. They're like, you idiots, he's an
episode on this one, but we don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
Oh yeah, let's ask let's a wiki guy.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
All right, So nil. We have this guy's name is Trevor.
Trevor Wiki. We have a question. How many more episodes
is Scott Foley in? And was he? Did he attend
Donald and Carla's wedding? Hey, guys, Scott fully appears in
twelve episodes over seasons one, three, and eight, including Turk
and Carla's wedding reception in the season three finale. All right,

(01:39:37):
we got to wrap this up. Guys, we've been neil.
I'm sorry to keep you so long. We've been going
an hour and forty five six minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:39:43):
It's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
I hope you had a good time just shooting the
ship with us. We miss you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
We miss you big time.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
We'd love to have you back too, if you ever
want to come back and hang out with us.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
Yes, me more than.

Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
Yeah, I will because this was fun. But I thought
we would talk about me more on that kind of board.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Oh, he checked out until we started talking about the
night terrors. Guy alfhit the foot of his bed against
the glass. By the way, Donald, remember we were speaking
about that rap song up, sir, mix a lot. Put
him on the glass. Put him Yeah, his nightmare is
Alf putting him on the glass.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Yeah, that would do it for me too.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Now I have the visual of Alf putting his breasts
on on on.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
Glass, or his tail penis or his tail.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
Penis on that note. Thank you everybody for listening. We
really appreciate it. Follow Donald and I on Instagram, especially
Donald because he doesn't have as many followers as I.
He's very upset about it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
I am very upset about it. We even talked about
it on the podcast. It hasn't moved. It hasn't moved.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
Don't yell at people. Donald, It's not a wind to
end the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
I just don't. I think it's disrespectful. I think it's disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Okay, calm down.

Speaker 7 (01:40:51):
I was clueless, dammit.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
Oh my god, I was in clueless. Dammit. Uh you
guys followed Donald and also please rate our podcast. Give
us when you get out of an uber and they're
like five stars five stars, give us five stars because
apparently that means something in the podcast world, and tell
your friends to subscribe. We're having a blast doing this
and we're gonna keep doing it for the foreseeable future. Yes, yes,

(01:41:15):
it's totally free. You know, we just do this. It's
paid for by by advertisers playing ads and this is
you can just listen to it anywhere for totally free. Yes,
don what were you going to say before you lead
us in song?

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
I was gonna say, and you know, we'll have Neil
back on and we'll talk about more things I wanted
to get into.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
I wanted to get into The Fugitive. I wanted to
save it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
Let's save it. Maybe he has a story about Harrison
Ford being difficult to save it. All right, thanks for listening.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Work twice with Harrison Ford, though he's worked twice with
Harrison Ford The Crystal Skull and and and The Fugitive.

Speaker 4 (01:41:52):
Yeah, for one day each time?

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
Right, Well, once sing you had way more lines than
just Kimbo you get?

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Is that all it was? Kimball?

Speaker 4 (01:42:01):
Yeah, it was more in the script, not not much more,
but it was I was wondering which take they would
use when I saw the film. We wonder when I'm saying, now,
back up, come toward me, let me see your hands,
you know all that stuff. And I see the movie
and it's Kimball Bank straight.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
Well, Neil, you're in You're in what I consider a classic.
So that's just cool to me.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
And it is a really good movie.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
It's a great I recently rewatched it and it's so good.
Holds up, Oh, it holds up. It's so good. All right,
Donald lead us in the song you got Mad last
time when I did.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
It, I want Nail to do it, Noil, Can you
just go five, six, seven, eight, real quick?

Speaker 4 (01:42:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:42:41):
Next, stories about show. We made about a bunch of
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