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July 7, 2020 56 mins

On this week's episode, Carla stays at the hospital overnight to help her friends as then endure their first night in charge of the hospital. In the real world, Zach and Donald remember their good friend Nick Cordero.

Footnotes:

  1. Nick Cordero in Bullets Over Broadway
  2. Support for Nick's spouse and child.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For those of you who don't know, our friend Nick
Cordero died. I guess if you're listening, it was two
days ago. He died of complications due to covid um.
He died at eleven forty in the morning, his mother
and wife Amanda or by his side. Just for clarity's sake,

(00:20):
he didn't have covid anymore. Um. What covid did to
Nick is what it does to a lot of people,
is it comes in and reeks havoc on your body
and then leaves and you don't have it anymore, but
you're left with what the doctors called lungs that looked
like Swiss cheese. They said it looked like it looked
like he had been a heavy smoker his entire life.

(00:42):
And he was on every machine they could put him on,
and they towards the end they were all on full.
They were wrong. You know, he'd have he'd have days
where he was doing okay and everyone get excited because
something would happen that was somewhat good, and then it
would all kind of go back to zero. So he
was in he was just even to live. He would

(01:03):
have needed a full double lung transplant, and you only
get those if you're healthy in all other ways. So
he the machines were really truly keeping him alive. M Um,
but he was surrounded by um loved ones. And Amanda
is just the ultimate wife. I mean she I can't
imagine a spouse who could have championed her husband more.

(01:24):
I mean she like started this movement online with people
just rooting for them and singing his song. He's Nick
amongst being an actor and a Broadway star and was
also becoming a TV star. Um I was writing his
own music, and so he wrote this song Live Your Life, UM,
which was beautiful, was his first track, and it's on

(01:45):
Spotify and Apple and everywhere. We're gonna we're gonna end
the show with it today. But Amanda would have everyone
singing at three. She would like on Instagram, she'd have
this whole just all like thousands of people across the
world singing his song. And and anyone that would talk
to her about, you know, ways to help Nick on

(02:05):
any any person who deemed her, she would like talk
to them and be like, what what do what do
you know? And she just did more research and and
and she really got so involved and the doctors and
nurses at Cedars, I have to say, were amazing and
did everything they could. But you know COVID doesn't give
a fuck. Really yeah, uh no, it does not h

(02:29):
at all because he If COVID did give a fuck,
circumstances wouldn't be what they are right now. He You know,
I guess one of the hardest things for us, and
you included Donald has been seeing this, you know, young folks,
not believing that, uh, that this can really kill them.
I think it's it's uh. The sad thing is that

(02:50):
um people people I think the young attitude and I
when I say young, I mean under fifty. I'm just
guessing it's like people have this attitude of like, all right,
I don't want to get it, but if I get here,
it's like the flu um. And for some that's true.
And then for some there's what happened to nick Um,
where it's uh or it just destroys your body. I

(03:12):
mean he he had entreating him. He developed all these
blood clots so bad that he uh, he had to
have his leg removed. His blood pressure wasn't strong enough,
so he's the tips of all his fingers and toes
were blackening and they would have had to have been removed. Um,
had he lived. He also was on like you know,

(03:33):
wrecked havoc on his kidneys. Uh, he was on dialysis.
He was on a ventilator which was often at it's
highest setting. He was on he had a pacemaker. I
don't know how we do this show today, but we're
gonna try to do this show today. Well I think
we do it because, um, you know, I could have

(03:55):
canceled doing this, but I feel like sitting around and
joking with you and UM and this and this amazing
group of friends and fans and listeners that listen to
the show. UM is is one of the bright spots
of my week. UM. You know I I I look
forward to this. I look forward to sitting around and

(04:17):
laughing with you. I look forward to reminiscing and and
I feel like I am so useless to the world
right now. The only thing I, only service I can
provide it all is that you and I can make
um a bunch of people laugh hopefully twice a week.
Uh and and uh and remember some old stories and

(04:39):
make people giggle. So I don't want to not do
my your part, my part hopefully which we will. We
will shift to, I do want to just talk a
little bit about how I how I met him, if
that's okay. So we were doing a show called Bullets
over Broadway, which if you don't know, um the movie
it's a Woody Allen movie, UM, with John Cusack and

(05:01):
Diane West. Really great film and m So this was
a musical adaptation. Um, it wasn't new songs, though they
decided to all just use songs from the period. Originally,
when we did early readings of it, it it was gonna
be Bobby knni VOLLI because Bobby is, like you know
in the film it's chazz palmentary, but Bobby is like

(05:22):
such a young chazz popmentary type and such a good
actor and um, and we did a reading and um,
and you know, Bobby, Bobby is just an extraordinary actor.
He's not like a mega Broadway singer nor am I.
I'm sure Bobby would would would would agree. Um. So
the part was like when Bobby did it, it was good,

(05:43):
but it was kind of like, how is this gonna work?
If the guy's got all these big songs. Then Bobby
couldn't do it for scheduling reasons. And Nick came in
and no, one had heard Nick before. I hadn't heard
Nick before. And he starts singing, and everyone just dropped
their jaws on the floor. This unknown guy who was
like John, he was like six five, big tough looking guy,

(06:03):
and then he sang like Sinatra. He had the most
amazing voice, and everyone just everyone's jaws are on the floor,
including one of the beautiful dancers in the show, Amanda Cludes,
who was going through a divorce at the time. Um
and certainly her eyes perked up when she saw the
super handsome six five guys singing like Sinatra. And how

(06:27):
come they always gotta be tall? Let's just get let's
just get that out of the way real quick. What
do you mean, you know? You know, if you're under
five eleven, all of a sudden, women look at you
like you're short. That's not true. It is if you're
under a certain height. The minute you hit six ft
tall out of nowhere, you're a tall person. If I've

(06:50):
seen I've seen it. I'm I'm six ft pause and
a half. No, no, no, no, no, I'm still feet man,
I'm six ft. It's on my it's on my driver's
licensed when I got doctor. You lied to the government
that's what you're saying. No, no, no, no, no no.
But my point is, you know, you say you're five eleven,
it's like, oh no, we can't talk. You say you're

(07:12):
six ft. It's a big it's a big difference. It's
almost like women break out the ruler on you too,
like the long what's the thing that you pull out
of the tap measure, the tape measure. They pull it
out to make sure, okay, you all right, and you
can't be like five eleven and a half. It has
to be like six feet and a half. Once you're

(07:33):
over six ft, you're considered tall. This is what I've learned.
Really tapped into a personal issue here, No, this is
what I learned. Anyway, back to it. So a Manda
season Nix. So they're so they're there, they have their
meat meat cute now with the big thing in the
bulltowere broway and you can see this moment actually it's
best captured on the Tony's So Nick, so we do

(07:55):
the show, and the show is a big ass musical,
big budget, huge dancing. I'm and Nick does not know
how to tap dance. So Nick has to train his
ass off to learn, not just how to tap dance,
but how to tap dance well enough to look like
the star of a Broadway tap dance number. And you
can see this if you go on YouTube and look

(08:15):
up Bullets over Broadway the Tony's that they did a
number at the Tony's and you can see just how
incredible it is and it's so amazingly done, and you'll
be you just won't believe that when you're watching that,
that that guy didn't know anything about tap dancing and
learned for the show. He trained like NonStop, so he
killed it. He got a Tony nomination, which is a

(08:36):
huge thing um to be an actor on Broadway and
be nominated for a Tony. And and we just we
just bonded. Man. We you know when you do a
Broadway show and you'll play just you can't sleep, you know,
after the show, your adrenaline is pumped, you know that
from doing a play Donald. So we would all go
out and hang out and we'd all party in Manhattan
and end up at my place late night and just
had so many great memories together. And uh and then

(09:00):
when I directed Going in Style, I put him in
the movie. I if I don't feelose of you who
saw the movie. He's he plays the butcher that Morgan
Freeman ends up stealing a pork loin from Morgan. Freeman
goes up to the butcher counter and he's like, I'll
take that one, and Nick goes the whole thing, and uh,
and Morgan goes the whole damn thing and then Nick

(09:22):
goes something like whatever you say, boss or something like that.
I don't know, but anyway, it was just kind of
a cool moment where where I got to put Nick
in a movie opposite Morgan Freeman. And then you know,
he and Amanda they had this beautiful baby they named Elvis,
and they and they had always dreamed to come into
l A because, um, you know, he he was on
Blue bloods um the TV show, but really wanted to
kick start the next chapter of his career, you know,

(09:43):
because he people loved him and new him on Broadway,
but he hadn't yet other than Blue Buds really broken
out in TV. And you know the one he wanted
to live in Laurel Canyon because he loved music and
and uh, Laurel Canyon just has this just beautiful history
of of of music. That's that was all the beveloped here,
and he actually bought they bought a house on on

(10:04):
the street that Jim Morrison sings about when he says
Love Street. She lives on Love Street, and so because
because Morrison was living on on the very street. So
they bought this house and they were just in love
and so happy and it was like the American dream,
this beautiful couple, the white picket fence house, the brand
new baby. And then um, and then he had to go.

(10:27):
They had to go pack up their things and uh.
And then when when he was packing up his stuff
in New York, that's when he got COVID came back
with it, and uh, he didn't have any of the symptoms.
This is right at the beginning when everyone was like, oh,
you you lose your sense of smell, you you have
a fever, you know, all the stuff we all learned
right off the bat. You didn't have any of that.
He was just exhausted. He couldn't get out of bed.

(10:49):
And I went and had tests. He tested negative twice
and then um, Amanda finally said, you gotta go to
the hospital. This is crazy. She dropped him off and
she she she she said, she said. While he was
changing the baby, he fainted or something like that. He
lost consciousness or something like that. And that's when they
were like, we're going to the hospital. And she took

(11:12):
him to the hospital and you know, it was the
emergency room, so she was going to drop him off.
She couldn't go in, so she was going to circle
the block and wait for him if I call, I know,
if she was going to serve with the block. But
she was gonna come back. She was gonna say, I'm
not gonna sit I can't come in obviously, I don't
want to sit in the car if it's ours with

(11:33):
the baby, but I'll come back. Just text me. And
she was never able to see him fully conscious again.
He he just deteriorated, deteriorated, deteriorated until the point where
they put him on the ventilator and then and then
it never came back. I mean, he kind of woke
up for a little bit um and there were some

(11:54):
exciting moments where he would where they would say, Nick,
can you if you can hear us look up and
he would do that. But he wouldn't do it all
the time. It was you know, it was only occasionally,
but a man this Amanda would just every she couldn't
be at the hospital, but that there were there were
nurses who would set up a letter FaceTime him. I mean,

(12:15):
can you imagine how tragic this is. You can't you
can't your your partner's nospel. You can't even be there,
you can't be by their side, you can't hug them,
you can't kiss them, you can't cheer them on. You
have to do it over FaceTime. That that a generous
nurse has has arranged. Well, that's that's the that's the
part that's so tragic to me, you know, uh, just
dropping him off at the hospital. And at this point,

(12:37):
most people who had COVID were getting the test and
then they were told after they got the test, listen
quarantine for a little bit and if you got sick
and it was like pneumonia, they were giving you drugs
to combat the pneumonia and stuff. But they were sending
everybody home. So when we found out that he wasn't
going to come home, that was like the first thing

(12:58):
that was like, holy sh it, what do you mean
can't come home? And then he spent ninety days in
the i c U. I mean ninety days in the ICU.
That's he I don't know. It's tragic. And then she
would come back here because she was they were staying
at my guesthouse, but we obviously had to social distance,

(13:18):
and she would be This is how fucking tragic it was.
She would be ten ft away from us, Florence and
I and sobbing, and we couldn't go hug her. We
would literally stand ten ft away from her and watch
our friends sobbing. And she tested negative. She never she
never got it. She never got it. Tested negative and

(13:41):
negative for the antibodies. Yeah, she never got it. The
same bed as him too. Well, when he got super sick,
he moved to the guest room. For what it's worth,
but I mean, come on, they were in the same house.
They were, they were sharing, they were, they were the
baby never got it, thank god. Um. So now he
leaves behind this beautiful aby boy who you and I
are going to be very involved in his life. Absolutely.

(14:04):
Unfortunately for me, his father loved musicals, so I will
be able to do my part. I don't have to
do any of that. Throw a baseball ship, you can
do that. I happened, I happened to be in a
position where his father would really want that boy to
love musicals, so I can handle that right on. If

(14:26):
you can do the spiral, I still can't throw a
great spiral. If you can teach both Elvis and I,
if you don't mind, don't trip, it will be great.
Is he'll come over him and Rocco will play him
Rocko and Wilder will play Yeah. I'll have Rocco show
him how to you know, compete with kids instead Rocco
show me how to throw a spiral. He might be

(14:48):
able to listen. Man, I'm not saying he's super athletic
and can and is like a and it's like a
superstar athlete. But he's definitely you know, he's definitely in
it to when it when it comes to me pushing him,
how about that, well, listen, I pushed him so hard.
This uh, this, there's so much. There's so many people

(15:09):
that love Amanda and and Elvis and UM, we're all
going to be doing our part to help um give
this child an extraordinary life. And you just started walking
and he's just the cutest kid ever. And you know,
I I I I. The last thing Nick texted me
before he went unconscious was I said, is there anything

(15:31):
I can do? And he said please look out for
Amanda and and and Elvis. And I promised that I'm
going to do that for the rest of my life.
And I want to make him proud. I want to
worry you. Don't worry about you. Will you will? You know.
It's funny we have there's all these relics, the remnants
of Nick around him. Where I do the podcast is

(15:52):
in a room where he used to do audition tapes.
And I'm looking right now at the tripod that he
was the last person to to use, and and down
the gym. We have a gym and there's this water
bottle that's it's like one of those plastic water bottles
they give you when you like as a as a
you know, in a giftbag thing. It was from doing
James Cordon, I think. And it's a James Cordon water

(16:13):
bottle that's like three quarters full of water. And we
never moved it because Laurence and I knew that Nick
was the one who left it there, and it like
sits in our gym. It's like a I don't know, uh, homage,
a testament. I don't want to touch it. Um we
both kind of want to leave it there forever shrine.

(16:36):
It's a shrine, that's what it is. Um. So uh
and then not to be preachy, but it would be,
it would be, it would be responsible with us. I
think Donaldson not segue briefly to um just begging people
to u to wear masks. Um. You know, Um, if
you're paying attention at all, you saw how a lot
of people behaved this this holiday weekend. And I was

(16:58):
just I was flat a gast. I don't know if
you guys do well and and Dan you watch, but
there's video of you know, hundreds and hundreds of people
just together partying. Um, I don't think they quite get it. Um.
You know, I don't know what. I don't know what
else one can do. I mean, you can just share
your experience. I don't know how else you can convince people.

(17:19):
But I mean, I think that's as far as it
goes now. I think, you know, to yell at people
to wear a mask a mask? Uh is it seems
to it seems to be a moot point because a
lot of people don't want to do it. Hell, our
president isn't wearing a mask, So you know that being
said to to tell someone to do it, you can

(17:44):
do that but you know, everybody's going to do what
they want to do. Yeah, yeah, I mean what else
can you do? You could lead a horse to water
kind of thing. Um, but I don't know. It's uh,
if you're if you're listening to this and you're and
you're moved at all by by the Nick experience, no
matter where you live, please consider wearing a mask. And

(18:05):
you might think, well, it's not you know, you don't
you don't think it can happen to you. But but
you know, Nick's the ultimate example of Um, it's a
roll of the dice. You don't know. Of course, you
could get a flu like cold. If you get it,
you could also, um, have a really tragic end of
your life, or even worse, perhaps give it to somebody

(18:25):
else that you care about. You know, you might be
just a carrier and then you give it to one
of your loved ones. Um. You know, Donald and I
are in the unique position that we just had a
front row seat to how horrible this was. Um, so um,
please think twice about wearing a mask. Do you want
to get into the show? Yeah, I think we should
segue to some to our true responsibility here, um, and

(18:49):
that is to make the folks we made about a
bunch of nurses around around huge get huge, Get Donald

(19:22):
on on Thursday's podcast, Uh, Ken Jenkins, everybody promises will
be on the show, y'all. Ken Jake Jenkins, the ultimate
fake doctor is coming to out. You know, Donal and
I joked on previous podcasts that you know, we felt
he was gonna blow us off by telling us he

(19:44):
was still moving and um and you know, Ken's an
older fella, and I didn't know if he would figure
out not only the zoom of it all, but we
also record ourselves and then you know, on recorders and
then email it to to Daniel edits it all together
and and thank god, his son is super tech savvy
and super down to help. And so his son is
going to be his own personal Danil and uh and

(20:07):
set it all up for him. And um, so, ladies
and gentlemen, we are thrilled to announced we're gonna have
Ken Jenkins on the show. Very excited about that. And
the other piece of good news Donald that I wanted
to tell everyone, Um, there's been such a love for
the ring tone and uh and and we we were

(20:27):
so happy that you guys love the themes on Ringtone,
but then a lot of people said, why did you
choose one without them? M hm. So I want you
to know that now you have the choice, and we're
gonna put the links up on our on our on
our Instagram and the bios, and I'll tweet it out
and all that stuff, or of course just google it.
So it's kind of like you know how they release sneakers,

(20:47):
like limited editions and ship like that, or as we said, remix.
This is like another one now that one, the old
one's gone. If you preferred the one without them, I'm sorry.
That was a limited edition one that's gone. And those
of you who got it, you got it and it's yours. Yeah,
it's it's probably it's probably worth way more than a
dollar twenty because it was limited. That ship was limited

(21:09):
and it's over. Now you can only get the one
with them, and even better, you can just buy them
and have it be your notification for your text or
your emails. So like we told you were the best, Yeah,
we the best ring tones best major key another one

(21:32):
another one, so you can get the to be your
text notification, which I'm gonna set up myself to be honest,
because I think that's pretty funny. Alright. So so yeah,
oh yeah, So we have a new segment. You gotta
don't you introduce it? All right? So this is a
new segment. We're gonna try and give you a quick
summary of the show in thirty seconds. I'm gonna go first. No, no,

(21:54):
you're gonna go period. But I'm gonna I'm gonna set
up my time right here because this is no joke. Now,
are you ready to do this? All right? You gotta
sum up the whole show in thirty seconds, marks, get
set go. J D. Turke and elliott A feeling themselves
in the beginning of the episode, but then realize that
they're gonna be stuck in the hospital without an attending

(22:15):
throughout the night. That being said, they feel so underappreciated,
so does Ted and his band. But the real person
that's truly underappreciated in the hospital are nurses. And so
we go through all of these things at night, just
to tell you, at the end of the episode, you
know who's really not appreciated at hospitals. Nurses show nurses respect.

(22:37):
Holy shit, that was incredible, dude, that was thirty nine.
Oh man, I've missed it by now. Come on, dude,
that was incredible and you landed it. You landed it
with like a message. Dude, you're off to a flying star.
There we go, There we go. You know what I
did today? I took that alpha brain. Oh it worked

(23:00):
on you. That was the Joe. That's the Joe Rogan pill.
That's the Joe Rogan pill. I took that alpha break.
I would appreciate it since they're not our sponsor. If
you just called it, you're Joe Rogan pill. I took
the Joe Rogan But wait, dude, I'm really impressed. So everyone,
that's our new segment because a few people who aren't
watching the show along with us were like, can you
sum up the show to remind us and our new

(23:22):
segment in season two along with ask Rob. We don't
have an Asked Rob in this one because he's not
in the episode, but is donald sums up the episode
in thirty seconds. He did a fantastic job. Thank you.
Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these
fine words. Okay, So first thing I noticed big time

(23:47):
in this episode is my lisp. It's sincerely list be
episode of I and I and that's edited. By the way,
I mean, I remember Bill being like, he's choosing the
moments in editing that your least lisp by, So imagine
what's on the cutting room floor. Here's the here's the thing.

(24:11):
I feel like. And you know, back then, I was like,
I'm gonna try and fix my teeth. But it was
such a distraction in this episode for me that I
feel like, you know, regardless of what anyone says out there,
I feel like it wasn't my best performance because I'm
trying to talk around a lisp. I see, well, you

(24:31):
were in your head, you were insecure. I'm sure that
comes up for lots of actors, no matter what it is.
I mean, you had a a a self induced problem
because you put braces on your teeth. But you know,
as an actor, it's it's so important to get out
of your head and be present. And if you're thinking like,
oh my god, my lisp or oh my god, there's
it on my forehead. Uh, you can't possibly be present

(24:52):
because you're you're in your head. So you thought it
affected your performance. I definitely feel like it affected my performance.
And I bet you when we finally do take the
braces off, when I do finally take them off. Uh,
you soar like an eagle, Like an eagle. You soar
like an eagle. That should be a ringtone eagle. Another one,

(25:17):
another one. So is this fable that you're talking about
in the beginning? What are you talking about? You're talking?
Oh oh, so there's the funny craigsist directed. I remember
it opens with that wacky shot. I've got the glasses on,
the magnifying eyeglasses so I can look in the janitor's foot.

(25:40):
It's the fable of you know, pulling the thorn out
of the lions paw. Does the lion eat the No?
The janitor adds that, I mean, I understand the fable
is the the I don't know what the fable is really? Right, Well,
do you know it? He pulls out he put like
a mouse pulled dan. You know what? The mouse pulls

(26:01):
a thorn out of the lion's paw. What else is
there to know? It's it's like it's the relationship between
the mouse, the lion, and the elephant. The lion needs
the mouse to pull the thorn. It's it's kind of
like this. It's the story about the circle of life
and how like we all need each other eventually it's
kind of like, I can't do this all on my own. Dan,
there you go, there you go. I'm no superman. Dan

(26:23):
was able to sum up that fable in less than
thirty seconds. Yeah, and the janitors just sucking with me.
He's like, that's no, that's um. Then I kill you,
you know, just to I left at Camp meadow Wood
because um, I improv that little. I laughed really hard.

(26:46):
And first, also, dude, dude, you're so good at pratt falls. Oh,
thank you? Yeah, Oh my goodness, gracious. She's like, I'm
going to describe someone here and you and and and
let's see if you know who it is clumsy And
then uh, John c uh Cox says, don't answer that newbie,
and you look at him and you go, no worries
and you lean against a cart full flat on your face.

(27:09):
I gotta tell you, man, you're really good at pret fall.
Thank you. I had. I had so much fun doing them,
and I got it's like anything. Over the years, I
got better and better at them, and I I I
we had great stunt people that that uh would teach
me how to do it better and better. And then
of course sometimes when they were like life endangering they
would do them because that's great stunt people do. UM.

(27:32):
But no, thank you. I love it. I I I
used to love it. You know. Well, we keep talking
about John Ridder and stuff when when we were when
I was a kid and I would watch John Ridder
Fall and Three Company. I mean, I just thought it
was the funniest should I've ever seen, and and and
and he was his body was like a piece of spaghetti.
I just wanted to I just wanted to be like that. So,
but so that means a lot to me. Thank you.

(27:52):
Um the bad title sequences back. I don't think it
has too many, uh too many appearances. In season two,
it's quickly killed. I think it got like four or
five runs. And then now you know we're gonna we're
gonna notice because we're watching, we'll be able to see
when the when the weird slowed down. I can't do this,
see when that's over. I laughed at you scratching your

(28:14):
your your nose with the patient's foot. Yeah, there are
a lot of jokes in here that were like, wow,
I don't like, I don't necessarily like how Turk is acting.
In the beginning of this episode, he was mean he's cocky. Yeah,
well yeah, but he was also misogynistic, you know what
I mean. He had a lot of misogyny going on
in this episode. I mean when you're in the clinic,

(28:35):
well not only when he's in the clinic, when he's
in the operating room and he turns to the nurse
and he says and he says something like, uh uh,
you know what time it is, baby, and she's like
her and you see in her face she's like, wait
a second, dude, who the do you think you're talking to.
He goes on with it and on with it, and
then that's what And at first I was like, there

(28:57):
has to be a payoff for this, because if there
isn't a payoff of the and Turks just a dick,
we got a problem here. And it turns out right
right as I said that Turk has to scratch his
nose and he asks the the nurse in the surgery,
will you scratch my nose for me? And she looks
at him and goes, I can scratch my nose and

(29:19):
then she scratches her nose and she's like that feels good,
and Turk scratches his nose with the foot. I was funny.
There's something in the scrubs Wicky about that guy continues
to change races or something. I think sometimes his leg
is white and sometimes it's black or something. No, I'll

(29:41):
read it to you. Why No, I don't know if
it's true, but I trust scrubs Wicky because our scrubs Wicky.
It says, um, when Turk goes into the o r,
the patient lying on the table has a black man's
feet but a white man's face. Then when Turk uses
the patient's foot to scratch his nose, his feet turned
back to white. That is the weirdest thing. Ever, it's

(30:05):
a pretty funny continon here is I don't know how
that could have happened. But I don't know how that
could have happened. Maybe it's lighting or something. Maybe maybe
it is lighting. I don't know, but it's pretty funny.
I mean, unless it was like a pickup from a
different day and they got a different guy to do it,
I don't know. So at five there's a little bit

(30:26):
of homo erotic scrubs Web stuff where we're like, oh,
I think there's some people who's fetish might be that
we're all hooking up. But anyway, when and I've seen
one where Johnny Ce has me pressed against the wall.
It's like a it's either photoshop or it's a painting
or ball. I think it's it's a it's a drawing, right,

(30:48):
But I think I've also seen a photoshop to one. Anyway,
it's Johnny Ce having me pressed up against the wall
from behind, and I found the moment it's at five
when he's pushing Jordan up against that was the inspiration
for the beautiful piece of art that is Johnny taking
me from behind on the internet. Do you think do
you think we should put that on a mug? I

(31:14):
think we'll be allowed to. I mean, we could do
whatever we want. I don't think Heart, I don't know
I Heart's going to approve. Why would I Heart disapprove
of two men pressed up against each other? No, I'm
just saying it's homo erotic fantasy. Porn might not be
part of the I Heart family. I don't know. Maybe Joel,

(31:36):
you listen, let's send it to marketing and find out.
Wouldn't it be great? It wouldn't it be great to
have that on a mug? I would totally. I would totally.
How about this? How about this. I remember we talked
about how the temperature change because when I was a kid,
we had mugs that when you put hot stuff in them,
they would change, and I thought it's the coolest thing ever.
So it's Jordan's right, but when you put a hot

(31:57):
beverage in it, it turns to I was I was
gonna say, you got me once you said porn. I
was like, I think we have to do it right.
All right, Well, we'll check with the higher ups. Um,
we might have to license whosever art it was, because
they really spent a lot of time turning turning Jordan

(32:17):
into me. We don't somebody have to ask Johnny C.
I'm not your Johnny C would be down, but we
could ask him why not. It's it's it's a mug,
I know, but I'm not sure he wants a mug
of us banging, but I I do. And towels towel

(32:46):
What do you think Jordan and Cox are into some
like kinky shit. Because because I'm gonna I'm gonna tell
you something right now, she says your name, yeah, but
she's just sing she's just sucking with him because he's
got to hang up about the fact that we had sex.
I don't know, man, that would turn me off right
then and there if if I found out the Casey,

(33:10):
right before we hooked up, had sex with one of
my best friends and they kept it a secret. But
I was still in love with her and I went
back to the well. And when I went back to
the well, she called me your name, she was like, oh, yes, Zack.
I'd be like, oh no, but yeah, I think we've

(33:32):
established that they're into kinky ship. I mean, I think
it's been like tamed down for network TV, but I
think it's implied that they're into, like, you know, some
bondage probably and some some twisted ship. Isn't there fantasy
once where Franklin our a d was in a leather
gimp suit, where Marty the smaller janitor, I think he

(33:53):
jumps out and he's a part of the sex fantasy.
Do you remember this at all? I do remember this.
And he punches somebody in the nuts. He punches me
in the nuts. But that's a different fantasy. Marty was
in a few fantasies. I thought I thought he always
punched you in the nuts. I thought that was the
that was his what you're talking about, Well, let's punching
me in the nuts. Punch So I wear a thong
at six o three, I'd like to go back. Also,

(34:14):
good ahead when he comes When Dr Cox comes out
of the room, and Jordan walks one way, and he
walks to Carla and he goes and she's like, whatever
it is that you guys were doing in there, I
don't want to know about it. He goes, why can't
people have a conversation in an empty room? And she goes,
that room is not empty. I laughed so hard when
he looks back into the room and the man's in

(34:36):
the bed with the biggest smile on his face. That
man saw some action. He saw a lot of action. Yeah,
that's funny. Um. But also the thong. I got a thong,
and it was my first and only time ever wearing
a woman's thong. So that was a good life experience.
You know, when you get to when you get to
be an actor, you get to try lots of different things. Um.
Some people become, you know, skilled with firearms. Some people

(35:00):
become expert boat rowers or bike riders. Yeah, some people
become I'm skilled at archery because they're doing sort of
a game of Thrones type thing, right, right, and I
got to wear a woman's tongue and it looked good
on you too. Thank you. I never I never, I
never thought of you as a person with a nice booty.

(35:23):
Thank you. Well, it's small. I think you have to
be into a small bottom um. Some people like junk
in the trunk and some people like a shelf like
God gave you. And then there are people that like
something firm and small, and that's what I offer to
the world. You do have a very tiny booty. It's
like two by four ish, but it's hard. It's like
it's like like like Mutton, like Mutton. It's firm, like

(35:46):
we don't even know Mutton's firm. We never figured it out.
It's very tim Mutton's very tender um. So what about
when the janitor, speaking of of the gay themes of
this episode, when the janitor tries to set me up
with Tim Row who was Raoul who was Bill Lawrence's
assistant at the time. Was he Bill Lawrence's assistant or

(36:07):
was he Yeah, he was Bill Lawrence's Yeah, he was
Bill Lawrence's assistant because Danny got promoted yep. And he
was very handsome man. One of the most handsome men
I've ever seen in my life, Roblem Raoul, and so
he did a cameo as my handsome date thanks to
the janitor named Tim and and then I go, I'm
not gay and he goes, oh, I get it, neither's Tim.

(36:32):
That was funny. Neil had some funny stuff in this episode.
I laughed my ass off when he walks into Romar.
What do you want me to do? You want me
to knock him out? Yeah? And then he's like, oh,
you're saying that, uh that that you can do what
I can do and I can't do what you can.
And I'm like yes, He's well, how would you get
um coffee up off a tiled floor? And I'm like

(36:53):
the rough side of a sponge and he's like, damn it.
It was a funny episode. Man's Band, By the way,
how great is we got Ted's band singing facts of
Life in the elevator? Right? The show starts with Kelso

(37:14):
you know, one of the things that I left out
in my summary is that you know this, this whole
show is is really about Johnny and Jordan's you know,
as much as it's about the three of us in uh,
the hospital. It's really about Cox and Jordan's and how
they're gonna make this relationship work. And I remember Bill
talking early on in the podcast when we first started

(37:37):
about the will they or won't they? And I got it,
but I never really understood, you know, I just didn't
think there was a lot of story of Johnny and
of of sorry, of Cox and Jordan's. And there's quite
a bit of story of Cox and Jordan's, especially now
because now I know what's gonna happen. She's gonna get
pregnant soon and all of these things. But I thought

(37:59):
I thought it was really I would have watched that show,
the Cox and Jordan's show, also because they do such
a great job at at these at these characters and
playing these this this this Roletten. I had forgotten that
there was a lot so much of Johnny's love life
in the show. I mean, Johnny has a whole there's

(38:20):
always this plot about his love of Carla, his love
of Jordan's um as we go on further, he's going
to start um dating other women on the show. But anyway,
so my point was is that Kelso wants Cox to
give a speech before he accepts an Award at the
end of the show, and he's like, why don't you
ask your lackie, why don't you ask Ted? And he goes,

(38:42):
Ted's not an impressive person. And then for the rest
of the episode, Ted's so impressive. You know what I mean,
that's interesting. I never saw that. That's clever. He's so
impressive as that, you know what I mean, from doing
from doing uh, Facts of Life Charles and charge six
million dollar man. But I gotta say, you know Sammy's voice,

(39:06):
you know, it's so good. You know, there's there's times
when he's singing and it's funny and you're just you're
enjoying the humor of of of them singing. But in
this episode, I mean, granted, he's sitting there singing the
fucking Facts of Life theme song and I'm sitting and
I'm watching it, going, holy sh it, he's such has
such a good voice and he's singing so high. Yeah,

(39:29):
you know, you take the good to take them bad,
to take them both in there you have the Facts
of Life, that about facts of that down damn and
gotta grow and show you're growing now. You know about
the fact that bad bad It was amazing, But you
never seems to be living up to your dreams. Suddenly

(39:51):
finding out the facts of life are all about you? Who?
All about you? You? And then I go me, how
about you? It takes a lot to get him. Rock
Sammy goes way higher than that because you're more of
a baritone. He's more of a tenor. Well, he crushes it.

(40:11):
Learning the facts of life. That was amazing. Uh, that
was amazing. And then when Charles and they bust out
into Charles and charge Yes, Charles, I like the guy
who's doing the deep parts on Charles, Charles Charles. It's
always funny when you listen to an acapella group to
just to focus on what the base guy's doing. He's
always doing something like Charles Charles, Charles. Well, he crushed it.

(40:38):
And then I got one question, where the hell did
that trash can come from? At the end of the episode. Yeah,
why are they burning? It's supposed to be like you know,
out of the movie when it's like Rocky when you're
walking down the street in Philadelphia and his brother's singing
at the trash can. This is like one of those
things where the show that technically should be in a

(41:00):
fantasy because they're really not singing around a fire barrel
at the hospital, but but it sort of rides the
line of like, well they found a fire. They found
a barrel and lit it on fire. Next right at
the ram. At the Ram, he's like, listen, he's not
he won't be here for another hour. Let's just start
a fire. Let's start a fire in front of the hospital.

(41:21):
We'll sing in front of it, and that'll be it.
I laughed so hard, Like where the hell did the
trash can't come from? What about when you were in
the clinic and you say, um, that's not enough tailing
all for a woman your size and she punches you
in the face. He had it coming. This is what
I'm talking about. Turk was a dick in this episode. Well,
it was. We were showing the bill was showing that

(41:43):
some surgeons, stereotypically including Turk, are very cocky, and he
needed to he needed to check himself a little bit
by getting punched in the face. He wasn't just cocky,
he was kind of a dick. I mean, I just
I mean cocky is like I'm the best at this.
He was just insulting people. He was yeah, yeah, but hey,
you know, and then what about when the janitor When

(42:04):
the janitor goes, you rang like Lurch from the Adams Family.
I so want him to leave me alone that I accidentally,
on purpose, hung my stethoscope from the ceiling, right, could
you get that for me? And he goes, we're even
And it's all because you took splinter out of his
foot in the beginning of the show. What about when

(42:25):
they're doing six million Dollar Man and Sam goes, you're
gin no no no, no, no, no, no, could be louder.
Do you remember what it used to be? What do
you remember watching that when they did it. He goes,
it's no no, no, no, no, no, no bitch. Oh yeah,
I remember that. But why were there? Why were they
there watching? Because we're in the scene we're pushing the

(42:46):
gurney down the baba and then they come out of
the elevator. Remember we were we were, we were there. Everyone.
Whenever Sam's band would sing, everyone would kind of gather
around because it was so funny and and I remember,
you're right down good memory that they were like, they
were all these funny options that Bill didn't use, but

(43:06):
one of them was it's no no, no, no, no,
no bitch. And I thought they used that for the show.
So when he goes, you're nine, this could be a
little louder. I was like, that's not the line I remembered.
And then and then he got and then he goes
to the other guys. You guys were fine. I love

(43:30):
that they should have put that in. So let's take
a break. We'll be right back after these fine words.
I wanna. I want to digress for a moment and
talk about another topic that's been on my mind. It
got up staged by all that happened in the real world.
But oh, here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, get your

(43:54):
get your phones or whatever you're listening to this podcast,
get it ready, because it's time. It's time to pay
the piper. Motherfucker. Let's go. Did you watch remember the Titans?
I did? I did. He took his earphones off. You
had to sit back and put your earphones on. I
have to. I'm gonna be sincere right now, okay, um.

(44:16):
I I am sorry to you that I never watched
this movie, because I loved this movie and I cried
multiple times. I you don't need to know anything about
football to be moved by this movie. It's funny. I was,
I don't know anything about football, and my girlfriend, who's British,

(44:38):
doesn't know anything about American football, and we both were
sitting there sobbing, and I just have to say, and
this is no bullshit. You are such a good actor.
I really mean it. I really mean it. I'm not
just saying this because I love you. I was watching
the movie just as a film and being so moved.

(44:59):
I thought every one was really really good, and there's
so much talent. Would what's his last name, Harris Wood
Harris is extraordinary too, and uh, everybody, there's a lot
of great actors, but of course I was more most
focused on you, and I just thought I kept thinking,
holy sh it, Donald, as as as successful as you've
been in your career, I believe that you are a

(45:21):
very underappreciated actor. I appreciate you for saying I think
that you're you become most known for your comedy because
you're very funny. But in this movie, you You're dramatic
acting is so good, and there you are toe to
toe to Denzel who some believed to be the greatest
living actor. Right now, I'm one of those people, and
you are toe to toe with him and incredible and improvising.

(45:44):
That whole thing with the smile was so good. What
was that you? I asked you about it and what what?
What that was written? Because you were it just looks
so real and you look so genuinely fucking nervous. Uh
that we you know, most of that was actually written.
A lot of it was written. Uh, some of it
was some of it was was improvised and stuff like that.

(46:06):
But I gotta tell you right now, when you're playing
basketball with Michael Jordan, you can't help but make a
layup or two, you know what. I'm right, that's what happens.
When you're working with Denzel Washington. You can't help but
freaking score the ball, you know. One. You don't want
to let him down. Yeah, and to Yeah, you rise
to the occasion. Yeah, it's like that that Hackney expression
always says, if you People always say, if you want

(46:26):
to get better tennis, play with someone who's better than you.
And I feel that too when I'm when I'm acting
with people. Well, I just did this film with de
Niro and and he's there, he is screaming in my face,
and I'm like, you can't help but react. I mean
you're gonna be as It actually makes acting so much
easier because the person is so fucking good, you're just
gonna naturally react. Um, but you um. There were so

(46:46):
many moments. We paused it a few times when your
abs were on screen because holy shit, your stomach. Dude.
That was back when I weighed one seventy five. I
just think that you don't have to go that hardcore
because that was probably a lot of work. But you
looked really good. Yeah, that was back when I was
twenty five and Wade one. Well, I'm just wanting to

(47:06):
know we flow and I paused. We zoomed in. When
I say zoomed in, I mean we were taking video
of it on our phones and zoomed into your abs.
I'm just happy watched it. I'm gonna be honest with you, man,
I'm I'm happy you watched it. No, and I'm sorry,
no bullshit. I I it's been a kind of a
joke amongst us for so long that I've never seen

(47:27):
this film. And and then I finally said, this is crazy.
I'm being shamed on the podcast. I have to watch it.
And then I watched it and I loved it. You know,
it's got I loved. I think it's beautifully shot. I
loved the score, was really moving, just the you know Denzel.
I mean, I could watch Denzel read the phone book.
I'm just so entranced by him. And of course the message,

(47:49):
which you know, of course couldn't be more relevant to today.
And it's just so moving, it's so it's so exciting
and and by the way, very hard to tell the
story of a full football season in a two hour movie.
And I remember thinking, like, how are they going to
do that? And I thought that was done really well.
Ryan Gosling, It's funny. He's uh, he's become such a

(48:11):
giant star, but he has a pretty small part in
the film. Is he was? He not a big star yet.
I didn't really know where he was. He would he
had he had done like Young Hercules and The Mickey
Mouse Club and stuff like that. But I remember when
we were working with it, he was seventeen and we
were all grown men, right, we were. We were all
all of us. Everyone else was grown except for for Gosling.

(48:33):
And you know, he was the one that we all
wanted to hang out with though, you know what I mean,
him and would would would and Gosling were the two
people that would It was like and and Ethan. Also
when I woke up, I would check to see if
they were working, and if they were, if they weren't working,
if the three of them weren't working, or one of
them wasn't working, I would go and hang out with
one of them. I love Ryan Hurst too, but he

(48:56):
worked a lot when we were making this. And Ethan
supples I think he lost all that weight. Huh, yeah,
he's Jack Now he's like this ripped. Is he ripped?
Yeah he's haven't I remember reading that he lost it all. No,
he's like he's like a gym rat now too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But Wood Harris, I mean I saw him in the wire.
But I was gonna say I was gonna say that too.

(49:18):
You know, before you saw the movie, I had a
part in your upcoming movie. Before you saw Remember the Titans,
I had a part in your upcoming movie. I feel
like I lost that role to Wood Harris now that
you remember The Titans. No, I don't know. It's funny.
You're so sweet, you know, Donald. I was telling Donald
on the phone about how much I love this um
and and I was talking about Wood Harrison and and uh.

(49:41):
He was like, He's like, I'll give you his number
if you want to put him in your film. And
I was like, that's just it says so much about
who you are that you're you're gonna plug a friend
of yours. Man, that guy's talented. I want to see
more of his work. I literally looked him up because
I just thought, I thought you a big movie star
right now, That's what I said, Florence. I was like, how,

(50:01):
I know this guy's works a lot. He's on the
wire and I amd beat him. So I saw his work.
But I mean, this guy, I was like, this guy
should be a household name. Yeah, he's amazing. So um
So for those of you idiots that haven't watched remember
the Titans out there, tell him, tell him you need
to go check yourself, check yourself, because no, it's really
really good and very moving and great to show your kids.

(50:22):
I mean, what a great film for it's so pg
that kids can see it and and and it's such
a beautiful message of unity, especially during this time we
continue to battle so many civil rights problems. So I thought,
I we're gonna go a little short today because if
that's Okay, I'm sorry to let you fans down, but

(50:42):
I think I could muster an hour of being Joe Vial.
But I might go fetal for a little bit now.
But uh, we love you. We're so glad to listening.
I wanted to end the show. If it's all right
with you, Donald, We're playing Nick song. Oh that would
be great love that. Um are we going to play
the outro and and go into it? Are we gonna
want to five into Knick song? I like that? How

(51:05):
about that to shake it up? I like that that? Um.
I hope, I hope, I hope you guys are ready
for this. This is uh Live Your Life by Nick Caldero. Yeah,
so you can get this. You're gonna love this song.
And you can get it yourself on wherever you can
buy songs or stream songs, Apple, Spotify, wherever, I heart,

(51:27):
I'm sure wherever you get it. Uh. It is such
a good song. And Nick came out here to l
A to start a music career, and um, he only
was able to release one song before everything happened. Um
And and ironically or beautifully or coincidentally or whatever the
correct word is. It's a beautiful song about celebrating your life.

(51:50):
So go out there and uh and celebrate your health
and your loved ones and and Donald, and I really
appreciate you. And go get the new ring tone and
go at the mm hmmm and have it be your
your notification alert. And Donald, I love you very much.
And I don't think you tell each other enough, but
I want to tell you right now. I love you

(52:10):
so much. Man, I love you. You mean you. You
matter a lot to me, and you're a very important
person in my life. Joel and Daniel, we're grateful for you.
Um and um. Thursday we will be back with more
pep in our step and we will have the legendary
Ken Jenkins. So Donald, count us in to live your
life by the late Nick Cordero five six seven bakers

(52:42):
these would it be right? Zall? You made you frind?
How ish you ell? Won't be only year the side

(53:04):
by in my time? Relie, you've got your planes, I
got me who understands how start tonight? It's won't shooting

(53:30):
past and out, consent to read the sign and just
steal light livel and it's all right, livelight like you've

(53:52):
got one night you light. I lo Lon to a
friend of mine, tho supple fools and you'll be fine.

(54:16):
Just feel slf my, gest the lies and try and
don't bend night meal like you all right in right

(54:38):
like that one night Lilen and Trump side a bit
more white, li. It's all right when you like, like

(55:37):
you've got one night you like to give you a
hell to listening. Choose your life about fight lie,
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