317: My Moment of Un-Truth

On this week's episode, Carla has a date, and it's not with Turk! In the real world, Donald shares his love of Gravitrax, we discuss holiday streaming movies, and we talk about naming nipples.

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, hey, hey, Yeah, I got to tell you something, man,
and I am so excited about this. And I don't
know anything about this company. I don't know anything about
what uh you know. All I know is it's working
for my kids, and it's gotten my kids off of
video games and it's got me playing the shit too,

(00:21):
and it's really it's a lot of fun and everything.
It's called Gravi Tracks. Have you heard of it?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I saw it on Casey's Instagram and explain it to
people who don't know what it is. But on I
saw what Rocko built and it was fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, okay, So Gravitracks is like a marble racing obstacle
course slash uh.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I want to like it reminds you of like old
school Hot Wheels tracks.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Kind of like that also, but also like Lego also
because you have to build and it shows you pictures
of things you need to make the obstacle course and
everything work. It's really awesome and the accessories that come
with it, you know, are very creative. Also. There's like
elevators and you know, trampolines and catapults and you know,

(01:13):
sling shot like crazy things like loop de loops like
crazy things.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
And you get into it with your son, so you're like,
you don't feel like you're playing something that's you know,
it's cool because you're as interested as he is. So
you're actually playing with your kids something that's fun for
you both.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
All Right. When I was a kid, Times Square has
this place called Port Authority. It's where all the buses
come into New York City, right, and growing up that
place was like a freaking scary ass you know, dirty.
You know. They made a television show about the neighborhood
I grew up in, and it's about pimps and prostitutes
and crackheads and you know, the beauty of forty second

(01:53):
Street and where all the movie theaters were, right, they
made a move a television show about it. Anyway, Qort
Authority had this thing and it had like a bunch
of pool cue ball you know, balls from you know,
from the pool table, so like from one all the
way to was it twelve balls, right, And they had

(02:14):
a bunch of them and they created something very similar
to what Gravitracks is doing, and it would but this
thing made like music, and I remember as a kid,
people used to surround this thing, because it was like
this clever contraption of you know, winding. You know, if
anybody out there remembers the sesame street one, two, three, four, five,

(02:38):
Sixcess nine eleven twelve, right that remember how the cartoon
went where it was like a pinball machine. But then
when you when you hit the ball, it went inside
one of the holes. And then now the ball's on
a track and rolling all around us. That's what Gravi
Tracks is, man, And it's amazing. It's so much fun.
It's so much fun. We have so much fun with

(02:59):
the The kids have been doing it for two days
straight without being on a television screen, without you know,
with it's just them and their mind and their imagination
and awesome. I just want to give a shout out
to them, uh and say, yo, thank you so much for.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Saving I'm sure lots of parents are looking for any
way to have their kids be fascinated by something other
than video.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Games absolutely or television. You know. Uh. It makes kids
have to use their brains. There's a lot of math involved,
you know, it's very specific in how things work, and
then you have to be creative with what you're given
in that realm. It's really awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
That's awesome. All right, Well, everybody check that out. We
got to talk about wonder Woman, because I don't I
really am confused about wonder Woman. I don't know what
the hell was going on. And I know I'm speaking
to three fans of superhero movies. I don't ever like
to diss anyone involved in creative endeavors because it is

(03:59):
so fucking hard to make anything, and thousands of people
worked on this movie, and there's so much talent. The
actors are all amazing. I know the director is amazing.
I just want to know from three people who like
these sort of things what that was.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
But a great question, Zach, Joe, you go first, you
want to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
I feel like this is the branded direction DC has
chosen to go in where they don't mind making these
sort of like be heavy camp films.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
But they're not for me. But four like them.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
We were they four because I was watching it, going
is a kid gonna get any of this?

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Children?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
It's for adults, specifically guys I think who are really
into like old school comics which didn't always have to
make sense like the the basis of reality or even
have like strong structure. Now there's a lot of great
like classic comic books, but also there was a genre
of comics specifically for looking at late eighties early nineties,
where like the physics were off and the body mechanics

(05:12):
were way off, and there's like no sense of reality
and there's no sort of tie to like, oh, I
need a great American hero. And it's not even you know,
sixties cheesiness. It was just like wild, extreme, like pumped
up nineties kind of stuff. And those fans have really
clung to like that ideal of superheroism. That's like what
they really enjoy and so you know, you don't need

(05:33):
a motivational reason for a Cheeta lady to happen. She
just happens and it's totally fine. It's not for me.
I think there's like especially a disappointing that Wonder Woman
doesn't get to be the center character in her own movie.
It's a little disappointing. I really like Wonder Woman. There's
a lot of great source material for her, and for me,
it doesn't do the character justice. But I also don't

(05:55):
want to take anything away from DC fans. I'm a
true believer that like, if you like.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
A thing, you know and the DC fans like this movie.
I haven't searched the internet to know if it's well
received or not. I don't even have critics liked it.
I didn't even look to see what critics liked it.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
It was critically panned, and it seems to me that
while some DC fans were like, no, this is a
solid superhero movie, it's certainly not getting the praise of
like Justice League or the the Call for you know,
Zack Snyder Cut or anything like that. So I think
it's sort of middling.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
I have I have a real problem. Listen, we got
we were really excited to watch it.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
We were really excited because.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I love all those actors.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah yeah, and great cast, great cast. And the first
three minutes of the movie with the little Girl of
the is the best part of the movie to me,
where she uh is in the race and at the
last minute her I don't want to spoil it, so
I'm going to shut up, but she's in the race

(06:56):
and uh, that was the best part of the movie.
And then the minute this is where I was like,
I think we're in trouble now. I'm not hating on
this movie. I'm not hating on this movie. I don't
want to hate on this movie, but this is where
I was like, oh, we're in trouble. When Wonder Woman
turned back around and winked at the little girl, I
was like, oh, uh oh o oh no, And what

(07:20):
did it for me? Because and because my wife is
a great judge of what you know, what's to come,
Like she figured out the usual suspect before you know,
the minute the movie started. She was like, oh, that's
kinds of that's kinds of right, yeah, And I was like, oh, okay.
She she said, uh oh these are her exact words.
She went like this, She went uh oh. And I

(07:43):
was like what what what? What what? And she was like, uh,
if the rest of the movie is like this, we
got a problem. What was with all the slow mo?
What was with all the slow I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I have to say I Wonder Woman understand how she
could fly.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
I mean that she's always been able to do that.
She's always been able to do that. Hold on, now, now,
let's let's if you.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Want to go and told me on Twitter that she
was last doing the lightning.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I didn't know. Okay, I've never seen her do that before.
But Wonder Woman has always been able to fly. What
was weird was why does she have the invisible jet
because she can fly? That was always the that was
always the argument, you know what I mean, Like, what's
the point of the invisible jet if you can fly?
But so as far as that goes, her powers and

(08:33):
everything like that are top notch uh and and they're
dying and they're and they're but they're doing it justice, man, Like,
that's that's the truth. She's supposed to be. If Superman
is the male version of what is the most powerful,
wonder Woman is the female version of what is the
most powerful? You know what I mean? Like they're supposed

(08:54):
to be the Titans that protect Earth, you know what,
And that that that is a parent in this movie.
It's clear if you are a mere mortal on this
planet and you go against her, and you go against Diana,
you're gonna get your ass kick.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
On the other side of things, we all loved Soul, right,
Soul was incredible.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
You didn't like Soul, Joelle, I have so many feelings
about Soul. It's a beautiful film. I cried at the end.
I think structurally it's very sound. I sort of wish
in the way that Coco got to experience and after
life that was authentic to a culture. I wish Soul
had provided us with an afterlife authentic to Black culture.

(09:37):
But performances outstanding. I really really did enjoy just watching
the film.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Animation was stunning. I thought, beautiful, beautiful art. I saw
someone coming on Twitter and one of them like the
body types, and it wasn't just African Americans being the
star of the show, but the way that they the
artists drew different body types and facial types and shapes
and sizes, the way they drew his barber. I mean,
I just love I loved this. The art of it

(10:04):
I thought was medical.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I loved Soul for a lot of reasons, but mostly
for like there there's something special about an artist when
they can inspire you. And usually when an artist does that,
they win Academy Awards and stuff like that. And Jamie
Fox is one of those artists. When he gets it right,

(10:27):
when the movie is right, and when he's in that zone,
he really can inspire you, you know what I mean,
Like he really his talent is top notch. When the
when the cards are in his favor and he's playing
that hand, you know what, I mean, like I and
this is one of the This ray is one of those,

(10:48):
but this one also it's like you listen to him
and you're like, holy cow, I need to be a
voice actor. I think. I think I think if I
focus really hard, I could be a voice actor. Oh
you know what I mean. He just makes it seem
like you can do it too, and it's a gift
that you have. I once told him that, and I
think it came off kind of wrong, and he was like, well.

(11:10):
I was like, I was like, dude, man, make you
make people feel like they can win oscars. He was like, well, shit, motherfucker,
go get you one.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Then I was like, though he was laughing with you,
I was like, A right.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
All right, my bad, but yo. Anyway, the point is
he's just amazing in this role. And when it comes
to music, it really does. You know, he really does shine,
whether he's talking it or singing it or you know,
you know, there's just something special about him when it
comes to that.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, it's a beautiful movie, I think, and everyone should
see it, even if you're not. If you know I
I I thought it was just artful and Pixar man,
do they have it do they have it down. It's
just almost every single time flawless.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Daniel, you didn't see that one either, did You.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Didn't see it yet?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Daniel was building computers. I wanted to talk about all
the all the pictures of those of you who bought onesies.
Donald and I are both loving all the pictures you're posting.
It brings a giant smile to our face. We love
that you love this podcast. I just be sentimental for
one second before Donald counts us in. You know the

(12:25):
amount of love that you shower upon the four of
us on social media, and it really means a lot.
And I saw so much varying from silliness and someone
in a onesie eagling their their husband to someone saying
this show probably saved my life. No joking around this year.

(12:46):
And I just want you to know that we we
hear it, and we love you, and we did not
think we'd make this much of a difference, but it
means so much to all of us when we see
your reaction. You're here, amen, and so we're going to
keep entertaining you because that's what we're here to do
is hopefully put a smile on your face. Right Donald,
absolutely all right.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I second that.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
All right, well, let's let's uh, why don't we rewatch
an episode of Scrubs and discussing made about a bunch of.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
A story.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, so, do you have your recap ready?

Speaker 1 (13:40):
I do have my recap ready. How did you feel
about this episode?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I thought it was very silly. It was very short.
It felt shorter than normal.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Here's here's something I don't understand. How do you make
an episode that really is only funny if you've smoked
a lot of weed about about you know, uh, you
know this is your brain on drugs? How do you
make you know what I mean? Like, this show has
so many like if if you're stoned and you're watching this,
this is a very very funny episode, like like the

(14:11):
type of episode where you go out your nose because
you laughed so hard. Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I felt like if I were since you asked me,
it's like the writers were. I can tell when the
room and when the vibe of the writer's room was
particularly stonery and silly that week. Absolutely now one of
the main of this episode. But the Brain on Drugs episode,
the b story is essentially that the janitor.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Wait, let me get into the RecA.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Okay, okay, but I mean it's definitely an If you
had a stoner friend who wasn't into scrubs, I suppose
you'd probably start with Wizard of Oz with musical, but
this might be one to show them.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Right, absolutely, absolutely, all right.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
All right, hold on, hold on, hold on, stop watch
and go.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Jad and Carla have really bonded over the last few year.
Turk's sick of being nagged over his butt watching habits,
Elliot and Cox think differently of a patient, and the
janitor is maybe the most desperate we've ever seen him.
What are the limits to fidelity? When does it become infidelity?

(15:17):
That's not up for anyone to decide, but you my
personal belief, if you need to lie for whatever reason,
you're probably doing more harm to the situation than helping.
Communication is always key.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Amen on communication being always key. But Turk can't be
looking and fucking all these asses.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
If his wife says and means it and isn't bullshitting
If she says, honey, honestly, you're a man, and I
don't find it disrespectful, and I'm gonna look at that
ass too, she's got a great ass. Whatever the whatever
their whatever their rules are, and it's honest. She's not
just putting it on to be cool, to be cool wife.
And this communication okay, I'm just saying, if it's real,

(16:02):
if it's not just like she's like, oh, I don't
want to be like uptight. I'm gonna pretend like I'm
okay with it, but really I'm crying inside. I mean,
Turk is like when she says go, he turns and
he just looks at the ass like this.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I feel like Turk and Carla might be open for
a little you know, uh, you know, we talked about
it before, you know, JD kind of things. It's possible.
I think they're open to a little, you know, in
a marital.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
First of all, I don't think this episode. First of all,
she goes on a date. This was so weird, Like
she goes on a date and JD doesn't tell Turk
but don't give a.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Shit either, Yes you would have, but he doesn't in
the show.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I forgot, Sorry I did. I brain farted on what
your what? What your reaction was?

Speaker 1 (16:44):
When she finally a reaction that they give is not
a reaction they give JD's fantasy of what's going to happen?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Right? Do you ever see what really happens? Oh my god,
how funny.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
By the way, how first of all, you'd be this
age right now?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I said this, I just blew you outside. I said
the same thing, dude. First of all, the funniest part
of the show, in my mind is me as an
old man, still living with you and farting. And then
I went I did the math, and I'm like, that's
that's me at forty.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Five, right right, right, right right?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
That's how how trippy is that to see yourself? I mean,
this is an experience most people on earth will never have,
seeing how you as a twenty five year old portrayed
yourself at forty five, and then going back in forty
five and watching it. I was old and bald and fat.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
And farting and farting and still.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Living with my friends and very very Jewish and extra jewy,
extra jewey, sorry because I've got nowhere else to go.
I was like, I was like a fucking Seinfeld character.
Oh my god, I was very funny. Though I wish
if you saw more of that character. I want to
see more of them.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
That would have been great.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
There are certain things I've wish he had more of.
I wish there was I wish Turk's mole puppet was
a running gag, and I certainly wish forty five, but
really seventy five year old extra Jewey Zach was a character.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I mean extra Jewey JD.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Extra Jewey JD. Well, they overlap, all right, Jady's nipples
name is Jasper. I laughed at that. JD loves the
show his nipples.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Right, you're right. Nipples name is Jasper. Yes, and you
have one hair named Clancy. So there's Jasper and Clancy.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, the hair is named Clancy, and the we don't
get the left nipples name is no. I think it's
the left. I think it's my left. That's Jasper.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, it's your left, that's Jasper.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
I'm sure it's on scrubs Wiki.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
You're right, now, you're right, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
But anyway, first of all, in the spirit of sexual
harassment at the workplace, I mean, JD and Turk are
just like really not being subtle at all ogling this
woman's tush.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yes they are, And I got to ask you a question.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Okay, it's funny even in two thousand and two or
three whenever we're making must have been three. Uh, we
seem to not be playing character. We seem to not
be playing characters that were toning it down or I
don't know, it just seemed out of Placezar.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I gotta ask you, though, are you a ass man
or a breastman?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Ass man times ten?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Okay, So when we first met, though, dude, you were
a breastman. You were all about tiny waste and big breast. Dude,
when we never met, that.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Was your game of another friend.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
That was you.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
You were like, it has to be I was like,
what about the big ass? You were like, it has
to be so tiny, it has to be.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Disagree.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Maybe I remember this, Oh my god, we're gonna fight.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
You're sorry.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
I don't mean yeah, we're gonna fight.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
We're gonna be your appreciation. I'm not saying that your
appreciation for giant tushes.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I don't like me a little bit. I don't like fake.
I like giant. I don't like fake.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
We both we both have something in common that we
like the real real.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
I like the real real.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah. I definitely didn't know that ass implants were a
thing until recently, I thought that was a joke.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
It looks weird, and you got this big, big, big,
big like hump on your bet but and then like
these real tiny legs, like if it don't match the
if the if the hamstring don't match the booty, what
you're really doing, what you're really doing.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
To each the right Really, if you're listening right now
and you're on the fence about where they get the
ass implants, Donald and I are begging you not.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
To unless you got no ass. If you've got no
ass and you.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Can, then do squats. Don't fucking put silicone in your toush.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Sometimes squats, Sometimes squat, okay, Daniel, Sometimes squats don't help though.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Well I'm just I mean to each their own again,
if you're sitting there on a cushy ass implant, then
manzle tough. I'm just saying I personally, I would rather
you did squats.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Joelle just over there sipping on hot tea.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
By the way, someone runs something so funny on Twitter.
They said, rip to Joel's UH search history. After last
week's episode where we made search for the amount of
sperm that are.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
In each practically no penis pill ads yet.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Just you wait, but you were doing a service for
the America, well, for the for the for the Earth,
for the.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Earth, for Earth, Planet Earth.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
You're welcome. You're welcome, You're well welcome. Isn't it funny
when you when you not funny, but when you, like
you google something and then you're on some other website
and ads for that thing come up, and you're like,
what the fuck? I just looked for two seconds. I
don't care. And it doesn't even be like pornographic. It's like,
I'm not that interested in in in iron shelving. I

(21:38):
looked once.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, it's I looked at a knife online, like a
cooking knife, because you guys know, I'm so in the
cooking a chopping knife, and I looked into it because
it's like one of those big ones that you see
on the Food Network and stuff.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Thick.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, it won't stop showing up. It just keeps showing
up on my phone in every ad that in every
ad on any site that I go to YouTube, freaking Facebook, Twitter, well,
Twitter and have ads, but Instagram, it shows up.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, they got you. Zuckerberg's got you all right now.
The janitor's whole storyline, yes, is a big storyline is
he has a twin brother named Roscoe, and he's committed
to tricking Jad and Turk that he I mean, does
this guy have any work to do? He the entire
time trying to convince us that he has a twin brother, and.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
And he goes through like outrageous feats to his theory.
He enlists Troy, right, he lists Troy. He jumps out
of a window, a one story window. He jumps from
the second story to the top of the first story.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Roof and then onto an ambulance and then onto an.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Ambulance and then falls off the ambulance.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Because the ambulance gets a call so they speed off.
He falls onto the ground. I mean, this guy really, really,
really really was committed to trigger.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
He made a video yes with Troy for the birthday
for the two of them for their twin birthday party.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Twin birthday party. This episode was so silly, I mean.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
And he goes, take your time to look at this
and runs around.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, and then the other comes in and it's got
nail polish on the other hand.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
But then when he walks in, he goes walking slowly.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah. Yeah, what was the woman's name on his in
his h and his brain trust. Do you remember her?
It must have been crazy eyed Margo. It must have
been her hand, crazy eyed Margo memory. Someone wrote on Twitter.
I saw someone wrote on Instagram or Twitter about you.
It was funny. They said, there's definitely a Goldilocked sweet

(23:50):
spot for how high Donald should be. Sometimes it's too little,
sometimes it's too much.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Right, Sometimes I get too far gone. Yeah, I'm like,
holy ship, I was high in that episode.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
And then there's sometimes where I was like, I probably
should have smoked weed in that episode.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah. I just love that someone compared you to Goldilocks,
Like that's that's that's that porridge, that that weed is
not enough, that weed is too much, that weed, that's
just right, that's right. Why don't go to break, right, Joel,
We're gonna go break and we come right back. We're
gonna talk about firm like Mutton the second time then
an ass it has been compared to Mutton in Scrubs.

(24:26):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
And we're bad. Okay, all right. I have a question
why why? First of all, why that why? Why? I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
It came to my mind when you did that noise.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Okay, second of the second second second of all, I
thought Elliott had gotten past this look. I thought we
were moving past this look at this point, aren't we?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
No, she does this rocker hair for like, I think
the whole season really okay? Yeah, I think season three
was Elliott rocker hair.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Okay, the whole season.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, I'm sad about it too.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
And the whole season and then and season three ends
with us getting with uh, Carla and Turk getting married, right.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I don't know, Oh, Joelle says, yes, I can. Look,
I have it in front of me here, what Joe,
you're looking? Yes, I'm looking right here? Do you want
to know what's coming up? We have? Oh, we have
his story. This must be when you narrate.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Oh shucks, is either mea John c McGinley.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
No, it says you. Turk has hesitations about whether or
not to mail his wedding invitations.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Oh shit, yep.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
And then we have Scott Foley coming back. I mean
we haven't booked on the episode.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
But Connecticut's favorite Scott Foley. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
And then we have Richard Kines episode and yeah, it ends.
It ends with Carla and Turk getting married with George.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Everbody's gonna ask you that that just that line alone
in that song. I don't even know the song, but
just that line alone. Classic.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
So the sixth member of the cast of Spin City
joins this, Alexander Chaplin. Now we call him Sandy. I'm
know Sandy forever. We went to theater camp together, which
sounds like a joke from Scrubbs, but is true. We
went to a theater camp called stage Door mannor together.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
And he is related to say it, tell it. There's
a reason why his name was Chapman.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
No Chaplain, He's not related to Chaplain. His father in
law is Hal Prince, the most celebrated I was under.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
The impression that Sandy was was related to Charlie Chaplin.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
No, you can, let's look up. I would know that.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I would just look this up. But his father told
me this, David Allen Base told me this. So I'm
gonna put David David Allen Base on.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
I don't think so. I feel like I would know
that tidbit about him because I know him, and he's
a very very sweet man and a wonderful actor. And
do you know what film he was in that was
really where his where his acting was really incredible. I
wish I was here m hmm. Do you remember that Donald,
isn't it He plays the young Rabbi? Do you remember

(27:25):
that Donald?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Oh? Yeah, that's right. The car, Yeah, and the plant
and something about the plant. Right.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
He is a great actor. I think, very very I
think it's very underused. I mean, the guy should have
his own show. At this moment where he explodes on
Elliott over trying to get pain medication out of her,
I mean, it was just like it was just like
a quick, little three sentence monologue and he fucking killed it.
He's so talented.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
He's very talented and very funny.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Also, he's very funny. He can also has a beautiful voice.
I love this man. I wish, I wish that I
saw him more. We gotta, we gotta, we gotta. If
you're out there and you're a casting director, you gotta
book Alexander Chaplin because he is a talented fellow.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah he is. Just give me a second. I'm still looking.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I think Joelle is doing the work for you.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
They're not related, and it doesn't even look like that
maybe his original last name. It says that he adapted
it when he got married. According to their Wikipedia page.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Do talk about stage Door manor though, Zach.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, does it say that he's his father in law?
Is Hal Prince?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
It does?

Speaker 2 (28:32):
There you go, wow, he is.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
He is very Look he's one of those people where
you're like, dude, he should be working way more.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I agree, Listen, this is why I tell people and
not that. And Sandy's had a great career. He's been
on Spin City, He's been on lots of shows. He's
a working actor. But I do have to say when
people go, when people talk about becoming actors, I go,
there are people like Sandy Slash Alexander Chaplin that are
so good and handsome, and you're like, why is this
guy not a household name? I mean, that's that's it's humbling,

(29:05):
because you go, That's why I always talk about it
all being a lottery, like the fact that that guy
never had his own show or has yet to have
his own show. I just can't believe it, because he
can do everything, and he's and he's charming, and anyway
I cast him, I'll continue to cast him.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
It's crazy how that is, though, because you meet a
lot of those people in Hollywood as you go through
the as you go, you know, as you climb the ranks,
and as you fall down the ranks, you know what
I mean, as you as you fall you meet a
lot of the same type of people who are running
the same type of race that you are. Man, this
thing really is like it. I remember when I lived

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in New York, we used to look at this thing,
look at the acting game as the trenches, because like
your best friend all of a sudden is your enemy
the minute you walk into an audition space, because you're
all competing for a job. And I you know, you're
absolutely right. He's one of those people that you watch
and you're like wow, even as an actor, when you
look at them, you're like, this person, there's something something's

(30:07):
wrong that this person's not doing it right.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
And it's like why, like why, I mean other than
just the lottery of of of the way the chips fall,
I don't know see why. I mean, Donald and I
both well, you know, can can name privately actors that
are hugely successful and totally cut together in the edit room,
and they owe their career to an editor and a director.
And then there's people like Sandy Chaplin who, like I

(30:32):
directed him in which I was here, there's not a
single take he did I couldn't, I couldn't use in
the film, he's.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Right that him yelling at Elliott is also just on him.
It never cuts to her reaction until after he's done.
So you see the you see him smiling, and then
the ramp and the and the it's really it's.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
And then he quickly turns a joke and then right
and then right comes back. I think he recurs a
few times.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Bill loves the same character. Yeah, Bill loves him too.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
All right, there's our there's our monologue about how much
we love Alexander Chaplin and and again, sorry shameless plug,
if you still haven't seen Wish I was here, please
check it out. And he's really good in that. He's
I play a guy who's so not into his religion
and he's secular and was raised Orthodox and and he
befriends this younger rabbi who sort of, you know, shows

(31:21):
him that there's a way to be religious without being
the religious ways his parents were and uh and and
so he finds his own unique way to connect to spirituality.
He's sort of the rabbi I always wished i'd met.
I wish i'd met a rabbi who who who?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Who?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Taught me a way to be spiritual without the strict
dogma that I was sort of had forced upon me.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
As a child. I have a question for you. Go ahead,
and this is hypothetical, and so I don't want to
just change. I don't want to. I don't want to
be uh because I think everybody did a great job
and wish I was here and everything like that. But
if Natalie Portman would have played your wife in that movie,
do you have to made it the sequel to to Uh?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
No? No, No, I don't think so. I I I
see how they are. There's there's sort of cousins of
each other. But I think I didn't want to go
anywhere near Garden State. I mean, obviously I'm I I
it's coming out of my brain and in this case,
and wish I was Here's case my brother Adam as well.

(32:26):
But so they're all gonna, you know, have a piece
of me. And in fact, the new script's funny. Someone
someone I know and love and trust read it and
I said, this is the first thing I've written that
really isn't about me. And they read it and laughed.
They said, you think this isn't about you? I meaning
it's not about a struggling artist, a guy from Jersey,
but it is so much of who I am in it.

(32:46):
I think that that's just, you know, that's what comes
out of me when I when I write, So I
think I see how they're cousins of each other, but
I didn't. I didn't see Kate's character having anything to
do with Natalie's character.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Would you ever consider revisiting that.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I'd love to work with Natalie again. I don't want
to do like I've had so many opportunities to do
incarnations of Garden State. I just kind of want to
lead at it.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Would you ever want to put this cast back to
like this is what I don't understand, This is what
I don't understand it certain and some directors do it,
and then other directors don't do it, and I don't
understand that. And sometimes it really upsets me because you
meet certain directors and you're like, I want to work
with this person forever, and then you never work with
that person again. Yes, but like Scorsese's one of those
people where if he loves you, you're in everything. He's

(33:30):
gonna do same thing with Oliver Stone, you know what
I mean. I don't understand why people don't take something
that was successful like Garden State and bring the entire
cast back together, same writer, same director, same everything, and
create something different. If it all worked the first time,
why would it be different the second time.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
That's a great point, But you'd have to write something
that would be perfect for all those people again, you know,
but you.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Already kind of know what it is because you did
it the first time. No, all right, if I just
stick to the blueprint, the blueprint says this is gonna work.
This is something that rappers do all the time, all right.
The blueprint says this is gonna work. This is something
that artists do all the time. The blueprint says this
is gonna work. And it does pretty much every time,

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pretty much every time.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
If in the rap world, but not not in the film,
there's plenty to recreate the magic. Look at the whole
world of sequels. I mean, how many sequels are good?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
That's you're you're absolutely right when it comes to sequels.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
But the squel exactly this equal is exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Well, no, not really, because when it's the sequel, you
want something different. That's the That's the only thing that's
the that's the that's the difference between the sequel and
what the formula is. The formula works every time. The
sequel can't be the formula again. That's the rule. Man,
it can't be all right, I made Star Wars, so
the next one has to be Star Wars again. They

(35:00):
made Star Wars, and the next one was Empire Strikes Back.
And that's why this.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Is the challenge, though, and and and I heard here's
how I'll address it in the way that what I
experienced is it took me a long time to make
another film after Garden State, and and when I and
and I didn't. You know, it's the classic sophomore effort.
And I think artists of all types feel this is.
Of course, I want the audience to come back for
what they loved, but I don't want to repeat myself.

(35:27):
You know, it's the class any any musician with their
sophomore album would say the same thing. I want I
want everyone to come back into the tent, but I
don't want everyone to think I'm just biting myself. So
you're trying to say, here's something in the spirit of
what you liked. But I'm also gonna tiptoe us over here.
Now that'll either work or it won't. Sometimes they won't
like the tiptoe and they'll be like, where the fuck? Like,

(35:48):
for example, wish I was here doesn't really have a
love story. You know, there's it's a couple that's that's
that that loves each other and they're going through a
tough time and there's a chance there's a chance they
might break up, but at the center of it isn't
a love story, right, So people that's so related to
a love story were like, Oh, it's a Zach Brafft
movie and it's got it's got it's got a vibe,
it's got music, and it's kind of it's goint of

(36:08):
great actors I love. And then when they saw that
there was no will they or won't they love story,
I think I suspect we're disappointed by that. So it's
always a challenge to go, I wanna I want to
I pray you all come back into the tent, but
I also want to kind of do something different together.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Right, no doubt, no, no, I totally understand what you're saying.
I totally get what you're saying. But that makes me wonder.
Then Scorsese has figured out his formula. It seems like, yeah,
he makes really good gritty movies, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Uh, But Scorsese always delivers. He's going you're gonna see guns,
You're going you're going to see criminal activity, you're gonna
see you're going to see amazing cinematography. You're always going
to see the top actors in the world. He he does.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Rodriguez is another one that's done that. It's my point,
they're very There are like a handful of directors that
have done that. Tarantino. You know what you're going to
see when you see a Tarantino movie.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, And Tarantino's done it in a genius way that
even more than anyone that they I think they are
so specifically Tarantino films, but they're all over the place,
in there, in there, in there in what they're about.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
So then what's wrong with you doing that? What's wrong
with you doing is.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
As good a writer or as prolific a writer.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
But Zach Garden State is fucking fire, dude. Regardless of
what you want to say, and regardless of what you
want to say about which I was here, that's fire dude.
It's a great story. You know what I mean, and
it touches something that you don't see in a lot
of movies. You don't see a lot of people think
I jump into that.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Thank you, and I think. I think what I do
that is what I write, probably has a smaller audience,
but it can grow. But that's fine. Grow, but that's fine.
I don't need to be you two the band that
came to my mind first. I can be a small
act at a smaller venue, but there definitely there clearly

(38:03):
is an audience for it. But you know, I'm not
I'm content not being as as hugely successful as Tarantino.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
My point is not just for you, this is for everybody.
It's all right to do what you do. There's nothing
wrong with doing what you do. Nobody does you better
than you.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, I agree, no matter what you're, no matter what
your no matter what your art is, I believe that
and also what comes out of you at the time
is the art that you have to contribute to the world.
I always go back to Justin from Bonever saying to
me it was about I think I sold the story
on the show that he said. I tried to give

(38:39):
him a note on the song for wish I was here,
and he said, that's what came out of me when
I saw the film. And so I don't apologize at
all for the stuff I make, whether sometimes it works
sometimes it doesn't, because it's what came out of me
at the time. It's what I had to say, and
hopefully some people liked it.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Right speaking, that's very difficult to be on that page
because then that goes against everything that I was just
talking about, where the formula always works if you're on
that this is what I expressed at that moment one.
That's the only thing.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
That's the only thing I can do. I think I
don't know how to I don't know. I mean, I
have yet to know how to to write something that's
not like a in order for me to get in
a chair and spend that much time and commitment, and
I need to tap into like what I feel as
a human being. I yet to be able to be like,
oh my god, I have a great submarine movie idea.

(39:35):
And it's not to say it's not to say it's
not to say that I don't have an occasional good
submarine movie idea, but I wouldn't have the commitment to
sit down and put the time in to do it
in order for me to fucking do the thing that
we writers do, which is stare at the blinking cursor alone,
wishing you were doing anything else. I need to I
need to feel like it's coming out of my fucking body.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
That's your formula.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, My formula is to is to tap into my
own psyche and my own the things that make me
joyous and the things that made me depressed and and
and craft.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Well, it shows. It shows in your movies, man, because
after walking out of Wish I was here, I think
everybody was like, fuck, I'm depressed.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Come on, it's not that bad. There's hope at the end.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
That's very little. That ship. That family is so fucked man,
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
At the end they're happy.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, well they're happy because they freaking the bully died.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
You know, well no, and he he fought. No spoilers,
but he definitely begins a new chapter of his life
and he seems like he's content.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
In the end, in the very end, in the very
very end. I love the movie, dude. I'm just telling you, man,
that that family is that's a very and and what's
crazy about it is that's the truth though, that was
a truth and it's not a wrap this up with
a big both.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I don't want to make that ship. There's plenty of
people making that shit. I want to make the real real.
I want to make you know you and your wife
can have an all out fucking battle and yeah you
love each other, and yeah you will do anything for
each other. But in the back of your mind, you're like,
is this gonna fucking last forever? Like, I don't know,
I want to make that movie. I don't want to

(41:21):
make the I lift her up and we hug on
the beach. Bullshit. There's plenty of people doing that.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
That feels good though, too, keep me one hundred.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, but there's plenty of people doing that. There's plenty.
I'd rather I'd rather tell it on a story about
a couple that hopes they're gonna make it.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, that's the truth, because that that is the truth, man,
that's what That's what really. You know, when you walk
out of I wish I was here and I'm fucking
totally you know, I'd totally sound like your best friend
who's so totally proud of you. But it's like when
you walk out of that movie, regardless of who you are,
where you are or what you're doing, if if you know,
if you don't feel like shit, damn man, I'm happy.

(41:59):
I'm that right now, not them right now.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I just want to aspire to I aspire to make
you watch something that makes you talk about it, like
you know, when you can see a movie and then
by the time you get to your car, you're like,
should we get deserved? Like I mean, in normal times,
should we? And just it's gone, It's gone, like you
had cotton candy, right.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
I'd rather be like yo, you remember the part.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, of course, and be like iven by the way,
even if you're like I fucking hated the way he
wrote that one character, like even I just want your passion.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
By the way, I'm fine to be polarizing. I want
your passion right right. That's what's up about shrubs. Why
don't we, Joel, why don't we invite the guests after
a break. We'll be right back after these fine words.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
And we're bad.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Gargle gargle.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Okay, here's where are we going? When we see the
janitor after he falls off the ambulance. I thought we
were going to play basketball. The basketball hoops behind us.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
I'm with you, dude. I think that the director was
assuming that the audience doesn't know the geography of our
parking lot.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Well, this was written written by rich Estes is that
I say his name?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I don't know who's written by Let me look, this
was written by uh oh, I don't know who Rich
Eustace is. He wasn't a regular staff writer. I'm not
sure what the story with Rich.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Eustace's And then who directed it?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Maybe Gail man Cusso directed it.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Oh, Gil, you love Gail. We do love Gail.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Love Gail. Gail has won many and Emmy I think
for directing modern family.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
She does that is creat she does it, she does it.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Right, She's great. I want texted Gail to have her
direct Alex inc. And she didn't reply to me. Now,
I don't know if I had the wrong self this
many years later, but I to this day am harboring.
I'm sure you have a listener in your life, someone

(44:08):
that never replied, And you're like, do I have a
wrong number or did they ghost me?

Speaker 1 (44:14):
And I feel that way.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
And I'm like and I'm like, no, Gail loved me.
It's not like we have beef or anything. Why would
she ignore me.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Oh, I have a bunch of people that I'm like
that with. Man, it's ridiculous where it's like I text
them and then they never text me back.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
It's weird though, man. But but do.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
You have people in your phone, Like, let's say someone
hits you up right, Yeah, and they're not your it's
not me, it's not someone in your closed circle. It's
it's like a outer ring friend and you're not dissing them. Yeah,
you'll get back to them. They're cool, but you're not
gonna do it right now because you're in the middle
of something and then you forget. Yeah, all the time,
of course, so sometimes because of my neurosis, I'll go
back and go, oh fuck, I never replied to so

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and so.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
It just happens too often with me.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
You know, you're a stoner too, so it must happen
more because of the amount of ganja. All right, Now,
I laughed hard at my character getting attacked for hitting
on a woman in the elevator. Now, I think she
overreacted a bit.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Just a little bit, because that's the salt that was.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
She assaulted me because all you said, I used a
bad pickup line, and she beats the ship out of me.
But it's hilarious and I'm sure there's a lot of
women out there who watched that, being like, yeah, that's
what you want to do. Sometimes when a guy's hitting
on you in an elevator, that's what.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
You get, okay.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Carla ripping the condom open with her teeth kind of
gave me movement. I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Really, there was a bit of a like a there
was a shift he felt a jiggle was Yeah, that
was a little bit of a yeah, although you probably
don't have a light jiggle like I feel like when
you have movement, it's like like what you know, like
when they make the sound effect of a giant boat moving.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Me, you know when they do like the underwater shot
of like the aircraft carrier turning and the like we
had to turn turn turn and they cut underwater and
then you hear the boat like like a big treaky turn. Yeah. Yeah,
that's what I feel like. It sounds like when you're

(46:13):
Penis shifts all right, Carla received Carla going on a date.
It was just I had trouble with that. Yeah, like
I did never do that. It felt so duplicitous and
and the fact that she made JD hold the secret.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
That's where I had a problem. I didn't have a
problem with her going on to date because that can happen,
that could happen where, but the fact that JD was
there when it happened, and she said yes, and then
she was like, yo, if you tell on me, these
beads mean nothing. That was like, wait, hold on, yeah,
I don't know if y'all know how this works. But
his bros before hoes. B. That's real talk, B, real

(46:50):
real fucking talk.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
What you say, Alca, Casey said to me, I'm gonna
go on a date before Donald and I.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
You don't tell me, dog, that's a wrap. B. You see,
we really are friends. You might as well fuck Casey. Dude,
you might as well fuck Casey if she says, yo.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I'm going down to Ravine, it.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Is not bad. Dude. If Casey said to you, let's
let's put it this way. Hold on, hold on, let
me finish we hanging out, right, You, you and my
wife are friends. And I'm like, I don't give I'm
not threatened by this situation. You guys are best friend.
It doesn't mean I encourage this because of my relationship
with you, Zach. You two hang out, so you too

(47:30):
are hanging out. You go out one night and she
runs into I don't know, let's say, Brad Pitt. That's
somebody she talks about a lot, and Brad Pitt says
to her, oh my god, I was a huge fan
of the Newlyweds. You used to make me laugh all
the time. And Casey was like, oh my god, I'm

(47:51):
a fan of yourself. And they're just having them having
a cute little meet cute right, And then at the
end of it, Brad goes, I would love to pick
this up some other time.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Case Oh, Casey, or Casey, what a horrible position.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
What's your number. I'll give you a call. Maybe we
can go watch some other time. But she's like, blah
blah blah, uh uh one five five five five five
five five five five five five and.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Gives him to just keep dialing five.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
And you didn't tell me.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Of course I would tell you.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
And no, I'm talking about about the show, and you
didn't tell me. You might as well fuck Casey, you.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Might as well. I don't agree that. I don't agree
that those two are equal. Me not telling you she
wanted to do with.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
If she goes on to day with Brad pittchy gonna
leave me for Brad Pitt. Dude, She's gonna be like
bye Roco, Bye Wilder, Bye donald Is Brad all day?

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Well, would be a mistake for her, wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
It, Because Brad Pitt, we might have to cut this.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
No, bradficts perfect example, because every woman who's straight listening
is like, yeah, I get it, that would be a conundrum.
And every guy who's gay listening is like, yeah, I
get it, that wuld be a conundrum. And every guy
whose kinsy scale allows right now, I was thinking, like, yeah,
I get it, that might be a problem. You know
what I'm saying, Joelle, you'll preach yes.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yes, absolutely, Brad Pitt.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Brad Pitt is like, yo, got you gotta look at
your briner and be like yo baby pass.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
No. No, I don't believe let's make it work. I
don't believe in that. I think that's just the game
couples play. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
This show is all about this episode is all about that, though, Man,
a whole pass dude. If you if the fact that
j D didn't tell Turk is some bullshit right there.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
What's so I didn't write Donald. The writers needed to
find some drama, so they created the drama.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
But that's made up drama, man, Come on, man, that's
made up.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
That's I agree? Is the is the guest here, Daniel.
Let's invite this person in and make their day. Let's
cheer them up or or tickle them with our words.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Oh, ladies and gentleman wearing it's fake doctor's real friends
onesie give it up for Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Catlin, Jamie, welcome to the program. You're our very first
guest to be wearing the onesie live on the show.
I encourage all future guests if you if you have
a onesie to wear it as as a guest.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
You can ask you a question. Yeah, before we get
me for isn't it cozy?

Speaker 6 (50:29):
It's so cozy? Can I say real quick, I'm using
my brother in laws computer. My name's actually cam By.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Cam Okay, so confusing.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
I'm sorry. I thought I could change you.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Cam You can you know if you go on your
who see up her right end corner of those those
three dots and you click on it and then it
says you. Oh, sorry, Daniel's gonna do it for you.

Speaker 7 (50:56):
Gentleman, give it up for Actually, I mean, I really
just couldn't go through life knowing that I didn't get
Donald's oprah intro to someone else's name.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
But when you play the show back, when you play
the show back for your brother, it's your brother in law,
your brother in law, he's gonna be happy that he
got a don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Your last name, ain't even Keckley, is it. It's not.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
It's all right, but listen, let's go. Let's kill and
me camp Donald.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Let's gentlemen, give it up for camp Sleby.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Donald. I want to say that the onesie looks really
good on cam.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
It is very comfortable, very cozy.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Now cam, do you like the fact that it has pockets,
because sometimes you get a onesie and there's nowhere to
put your phone or your stuff. You can put anything
you want in there.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
Yeah, not only the pockets, but I like where they're
placed too, you know, not even like to decide they're
like perfect like hoodie pockets.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
You know, I have only one complain about our onesie. Okay,
no poop flap.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
No poop flap. Yeah, next incarnation we need to add
of pooflow. It's gonna cost more money though.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Yeah, yeah, you cost more money.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
You do have to go all the way off if
you want to, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah. I just think a poop flap's funny, even if
you don't use the poof flap. I just think I
laugh every time I see a poof flap. Cam, welcome
to the program. Where are you calling from.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
I'm from Charleston, South Carolina?

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Okay, Carol, And do you have a question for any
of us today to be on the show?

Speaker 5 (52:30):
I do. I do have a question for all of you.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Actually, go ahead and Cam not.

Speaker 6 (52:34):
Really scrub specific. And I just got to say so
I give credit where credit is due. I kind of
got this question from another podcast I listened to. It's
called The Watch through the Rigger Network. Shout out Cha Serato,
The Watch, but the watches two guys.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
They had Jason.

Speaker 6 (52:50):
Mazukas on and they were talking a lot about this
past year, and the question was, do you feel the
way you consume content or what content you want to
consume has changed over the past ten months? Your personal
taste or what you find funny has that changed over
the past year as well?

Speaker 5 (53:06):
Obviously with the pandemic things like that.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, I think I think my taste and what I
find funny has changed. And I think a lot of
it has to do with how the culture has shifted.
You know, what is considered bullying and not necessarily was
considered punching down now used to be considered very funny,
and it's it's not anymore. And so yeah, i think

(53:35):
I'm way more conscious of when listening to jokes, and
this is and and this is something that I'm not
necessarily happy about or sad about. It's just that i'm
very I'm I'm very aware of this now that when
I listen to jokes, I'm also well when I'm consuming content,
I should say, I'm also checking to see if it

(53:59):
offends anyone, because if it does, then I'm not necessary
Like once I feel like something offends somebody, then I
have a problem with it in a lot of ways.
And I don't know, and I think I think it
has a lot to do with, you know, just the
climate that we're in right now. I don't want anyone
to necessarily be offended by me, like in ways that

(54:24):
I've been offended by people, you know what I mean.
So if I ever make somebody feel like I have felt,
then I got a problem with that. And I think
this year, more than anything, because of the climate, we
are experiencing that more. I think whether it's okay, Well,
now that I know that it hurts you, people are

(54:46):
using it more, or I know that it hurts you,
I'm going to refrain from saying it. And even if
it's not honest, at least it's at least it's an
effort to say, you know what I see that that
hurts you. My bad.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
What about you, Joelle? Do you think your ways of
or the way you view content has changed all during
the pandemic?

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (55:08):
No?

Speaker 3 (55:09):
I mean I had a film and television critic beforehand
that I watched things all the time streaming or on
my computer because that's how we get the screeners. I
think that there's a possibility I like certain shows a
lot more than I would have pre pandemic. I still
would have enjoyed like I would have enjoyed to the
Lasso whenever it came out, But my God, wasn't like

(55:30):
vital to just lifting the spear. It was like came
like the darkest point of the pandemic, where we were like,
I don't there's no cure insight, I don't know what's happening.
Then like like a beacon of light, here comes Ted
Last so just to like bowl you over with comedy,
and then did you.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Feel sorry to digress that episode two was the best episode?

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Oh, clearly clearly the best, superior to all the episodes.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
It was something about the way it was director go ahead.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
And then there shows like The Queen's Gambit or even
I don't know if you guys have had an opportunity
see Maraini's Black Bottom.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yet Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
WHOA like again.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Like there's something tinly about these things, even Soul, which
I think maybe I would have been more harshly critical of,
like pre pandemic, in the pandemic fictions like this is
so now again I like Soul, I might have been
more critical in a world where you know, we probably
would have had a similar summer despite the pandemic. Right, So,
tensions are high, and there's a lot to consider about

(56:23):
black representation and art. But like, my god, anything that's
gonna make me feel some kind of joy or light
or or feels like just remotely better than the previous
representation we've had and like give it a hall pass,
like I can't. I can't canticue too harshly because I
just need this level of joy and content in this time.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Somebody you're talking about a little bit has changed.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
I appreciate certain things a little bit more, but for
the most part, no, I'm watching and consuming when you hear.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
People, But when you hear people say certain things like uh,
you know, hurtful things in media and in in in,
it doesn't affect you more like it affects me way
more now because I feel like everybody is well aware. Like, Okay,
I just saw something recently where a young lady is
going crazy over her phone accusing of a young accusing

(57:13):
a young black kid of stealing her phone.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Right, and it.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Really angered me because it was like, wait, hold on, now,
you know what's going on. There's a better way to
do this, dude. What you're doing right now isn't the
right way. There's a better way to handle all of this.
You know what's what climate, This is what's going on
right now, and you're not even paying. You don't give
a fuck, And that pisses me off, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
When I see a shit like that that can't really media.
That's something somebody like captured, right, Like, that's not but.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
It's turned into media though, you know what I mean,
it's now turned into something to invoke.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
That is a much broader conversation, which I don't a
thousand percent disagree with you, but it's a much broader
conversation than I think we could tackle here. I think
I've always been sensitive to that stuff, Like, I mean,
if you're gonna come yelling at children who are just
being kids, like, I've always found that the r right,
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
What about you, Daniel?

Speaker 4 (58:11):
I think you know inherently. One thing that has affected
my media watching is just the climate of the world
from a health standpoint. Every movie or thing that I
watched from the past, I just look at and be like,
can you believe all those people are so close together?
Can you believe that we were just so accepting of
like this or that or the other?

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Thing?

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Right?

Speaker 4 (58:29):
You know, one thing I saw one thing I saw
recently people someone on Twitter was saying, can you believe
that we all just like went bowling, like sticking your
fingers into the bowling ball that someone else? You have
no idea that we all just did that and then
ate our chicken fingers and that fall. So I think,
you know, anytime I watched something from a year ago

(58:49):
and beyond, there's that, and that's definitely going on in
the back of my head, and going forward, I will
definitely be considering that and the safety of everybody around
in production.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Do you think the movie should be Do you think
movies should be conscious of that? Do you think do
you think movies should go back to the way they
were before compared to what's going on now? Should movies
tackle the fact that corona happened and sanitizing your hand
and washing your hands? And you know what I mean,
because when you go and watch a movie and somebody

(59:20):
does that, the whole audience is going to be like,
oh my god, so fucking no.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
I know it's a question because I'm hoping to shoot
my film this coming summer and I don't plan to
address COVID at all, because I imagine it will come out
a year from the summer and with God willing, universe willing,
where COVID will be tackled. And I don't want my
film to be like, oh, it's a COVID movie, but yeah,

(59:45):
it's weird you think of, like, yeah, you think of
shooting something. I agree everything I watch now I'm like,
oh my god. We were watching the show call Somebody
Feed Phill. I don't know if you've ever seen. It's
really funny food show, and he's like literally sharing a
fork with a stranger and everyone we just like when
the room gasped, we were like, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
I just really quickly on that very point. I think
sometimes the best movies exist in a world where, like
the the situation of the world isn't the focus. It
just happens to exist in that world. I think, like
you know, you think about the kind of Cloverfield, the
monster movie. Cloverfield tried to do a good job of
telling a story in a world where a monster movie

(01:00:30):
is happening, rather than making the movie about the monster.
Maybe not the best example, but I think as we
see movies going forward, there will be movies that exist
in the time of COVID. But if there are movies
that are about COVID, it's just going to be contrived
and boring and lame. But seeing a movie that exists
in this world that's about something else, I'm interested to
see how that'sful part of life, and so how to

(01:00:53):
tackle that in film and media?

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
I'm interested.

Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
So they they made a comment in that other podcast
about how they were watching old episodes about and PI
and uh he's and the guy was Jason was like,
everyone in that show is dealing with Vietnam, you know,
years and years later. And his thought was like, you're
you know, you have to have like a character dealing
with the pan like what was going on in their
life during the pandemic. I don't know. I thought it
was kind of interesting thought, but I agree, Zach, You're

(01:01:18):
not gonna make a COVID.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Somebody. Somebody will. Somebody will, and I think and I
think that also that they'll do both things. Someone will
make a film about honey, movies about COVID. But then,
like in your Magnum p I analogy, they'll be art
of all types, whether it's a PI show or or
a little dark indie where COVID is is a character.

(01:01:41):
Just the the the trauma, the emotional trauma of what's
happened to the earth for what will be two years
or more, I think is going to be something a
lot of artists make art about. All right, Cam, what's
your next question? For for the group.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
Well, that was actually my other question was do you
do you see art changing?

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Now?

Speaker 6 (01:02:04):
All of y'a are in different types of obviously art,
and I know there's obviously the lohnging flute like fruit
like I assume, like you know, dance floors where DJs
are not going to be completely filled. Maybe, But do
you see it changing coming out of this on the
other side because of two or two and a half
years of being in it, I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Never really thought about that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
I don't think. I think. I think eventually people will
go back to nightclubs and people will go back to theaters.
I don't think any of that's dying that quick a death.
People love dance, people love to go see movies together.
People like me are obsessed with live theater.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Wait, hold on, let me get this straight to Zach.
You feel like the movie theater is going to make
a comeback again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
I think the movie theater as a as an experience
for Blockbusters is going to outlive us. Okay, I do
think that the idea, even I who love movies, when
I see when I see the trailer, I go, I'll
wait till it's to be on my big screen TV.

(01:03:01):
Because I don't. It's not a film that for me.
I want the theatrical experience. But then then nineteen seventeen
came out. I actually watched the screener because I had
the Award screener for it, and I went, holy shit,
I have done this film a disservice. I want to
go see it on a big ass screen. So I
think they'll always be, at least for our lifetime, an

(01:03:21):
experience that someone can go have and go see a
movie on a big screen. I think that the business
they'll do for smaller films that aren't about spectacle will
will dwindle.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Yeah, it's just I have a hard time thinking that
people will go back to theaters. And I hope they
do go back to theaters. I don't want to jinx this,
but it's just that's one of the dirtiest places you
can go as far as hygiene goes. You go to
the bed, like when you sit down and the arm
rest next.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
To you, Well, COVID will be tackled. I mean, how
long is the question, but it will be conquered.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Okay, well it needs to be. We need I'm listen
and I hate to get political. I don't want to
get political about this, because I don't think this is
a political statement. But one hundred million vaccine, one hundred
million vaccine ship to the US, how many people have
been inoculated?

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
How many people have received a code vaccine? A million people?

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Okay, so one million out of one hundred million.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Not a three hundred million.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
I see where you're going though, because the thing is
what I did read earlier today is that like at
the current rate that we're that we're giving out the vaccine,
we're not going to give out the vaccine in total
for ten years, if we want to tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Men, I know, okay, but in defense of in defense
of human beings and global logistics, I think that it
will be begin If you looked at the graph, it's
going to start picking. I mean not to be political,
but of course I have a feeling when Biden takes
over there might be a few smarter people in the

(01:04:51):
room to kick up the distribution. But even if it wasn't,
even if everyone in this current administration were well in
ten and doing their best at one hundred percent, it's
still a pretty massive undertaking to to to give the
COVID vaccine to three hundred million people.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
Yeah, it's going to be an enormous undertaking. Also just
to correct because people will undoubtedly come at us. It's
two point one million people as of the recording. Two
point one million people in the US have received their company.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
And we've gotten a hot So let's make sure we
clarinet if you. Like I said, I don't want to
offend anybody by my numbers. These are the things. Before
I would just black fucking it's such and such and
such and touch. I don't give a fuck about facts.
Nowadays it's very important. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
Yeah, to zax point you like you're gonna want to
see a horror film in a theater again, Like, it's
not the same. It's not the same watching a horror
movie at home by yourself. You're like, oh, it's it's
kind of scary. But when you hear three hundred people
gasp in a movie theater, there's nothing is replacing that presence.
How will that be packaged, delivered and sold to us
is going to change drastically. My guess is we're gonna

(01:05:53):
see a spike in low ink like the dollar theaters
and things like that that are cheap and running very
old movies and things like that, because and then we'll
see obviously a hike in the very expensive you can
get booze and a like food items and things delivered,
and there's smells in the air or whatever they can
do to sensationalize and get more money. Because theaters are
going to have to adjust post pandemic, but they will adjust.

(01:06:14):
They'll still have audiences.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
All right. Here's a great example, Joelle, if you had
to go to if you went to the movie theaters
to see Wonder Woman nineteen eighty five, which before you
pissed whatever it was when you walked out, wouldn't you
be pissed off?

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
No, I want to say, I understand that sometimes movies
are gonna be bad. I'm a movie theater goer.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Again, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
I'm probably a bias pressa. I'm a film critic, so
I really have to pay for a movie. But even
when I do, I'm like, I go in for the
experience of like, I can't see a movie, and Wonder Woman,
to Zach's earlier point, gives you so much to talk about.
You could critique that movie seven thousand different ways, so
many things to discuss.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
It make cats though, Man, it ain't as bad as
it like. You know what I'm saying that I think
a cat.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
The thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
By the way, Kristin Wig, Kristin Wigg was was a cat.
I was expecting her to be like Jelics can and Jelicals.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
To step about that down, here's a curious.

Speaker 6 (01:07:09):
Beast, James, James Gordon comes falling down.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
You know whatever, it's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
The person who put Kristen Wig in a movie and
did not allow her one opportunity to be funny needs
a handslap. Yeah all right, Cam, how can we? It's
time for everyone's favorite segment in South Carolina especially, it's

(01:07:35):
time to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Fix your lie.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Cam. We're here for you. How can we help you?
We are professional therapist.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
I don't it's you're talking to three professional therapists and
Donald Yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
I value your your judgement, Donald, for good or bad, if.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
It's about weed or Star Wars. We haven't ex I
got you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
I don't want to be on too long, so I
hate to go down the rabbit hole of always asking
the love questions. But and as my sister sex nice
to me specialty, she's going to roll her eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
But is your sister next to you?

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
Yeah, she's right here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Oh, hi, sisters sister, that's.

Speaker 6 (01:08:21):
My sister Caroline. Yes, So I'm I'm thirty seven. I'm
the middle child. My sister is younger. I have an
older brother as well. Uh. They are both married and
have not one but two kids. The second one is
on the way for both of them. So I'm the
lone single sibling left in the family. And not that
there's a lot of pressure from the parents or from
other family members, but some uh and and I guess

(01:08:43):
my roundabout question is I don't know if some of
them feel like I'm too.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
Picky sometimes with finding a girl and then I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
So I know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:54):
And I say that because I.

Speaker 6 (01:08:56):
You know, there's this idea of like when you know,
you know, and everybody has their story right that whatever
it may be. I feel like when people get married
or when they get together, they're like, you know, it
never would have happened because of this and this, And
I feel like I've had those moments, but then it
hasn't banned out.

Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
So I'm like, is that a real moment? Was I
fooling myself? Was I not? You know?

Speaker 6 (01:09:15):
So I guess that's the idea a little bit, if
that's a question at all, you know, I guess that
when you know, you know it is a true statement.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Maybe, But I just am I too picky?

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
You know, Like, no, I don't think there's such thing
as too picky. But you got to realize that it's
you know, it's a two way street, sore where you're
picky and your cup of tea might present itself you
might not necessarily be that person's cup of tea.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
So but also, can I say something you we all
are subscribing to this societal construct that there's something wrong
with you if you're your age and you haven't found
your person yet. And I think step one is you
have to just let that bullshit go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Yeah, it's because of kids, though, man, it's because of kids.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Okay, Okay, that's the only reason.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Though. It's all you get old or it's maybe a
little bit more difficult to have kids, and that's the
only reason why.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Just as let me just say my thoughts. Just as
you were programmed, I'm sure that this was the right
religion for our family, and this is what we believe.
And look, there's a book that says it all and
these are the rules, and and XYZ happens if you're good,
and ABC happens if you're bad. You were also programmed
that by age thirty you better be married and be

(01:10:35):
thinking about having kids, and you better stay with that
person for the rest of your life. And I just
think a good starting point for the conversation is just
as I don't know if you're religious or not, but
just as Donald and I, for example, are secular and
don't and chose not to subscribe to that aspect of
what we were fed. You can also say, guess what,

(01:10:56):
what if my path is that I continue lead the
life that I have with enjoyment, I continue dating, and
holy shit, what if I find true love at forty five?
What if I have a kid? By the way, I
have a good friend who started having kids at fifty.
I've never seen the guy happier in his whole existence,
you know, Gary Donald, So you don't know what's coming

(01:11:18):
for you. Now. We can give you strategies for some
ideas on how to know how to up your chances
of meeting the person. But I think the first step
would be letting go of like I'm in the wrong
because of what society tells me I'm supposed to be.

Speaker 6 (01:11:35):
Doing yeah and well, and coming from the South, I
feel like it was like, all right, you graduated from
high school, you go to college for four years, you
graduate from college, you get the job, you get the
white picket fence, and yeah, by thirty that's all online.
And I'm way past that. And it's been a understand Zach.
And it's a tough thing to let go of. But
in the back of my mind it like, you know,

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gnawls at you a little bit, and well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
What's happening is that every day you're telling yourself there's
something wrong with you.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
Hm.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
And also that white picket fence fairy tale is of
the past. Man that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Who the fuck wants a picket fence?

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Nobody wants that shit?

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
In more right, No, I mean literally and figuratively, who
the fuck wants that? I think they're ugly. I actually
have a I actually have an old weathered one. They're
beautiful weathered. I just don't like the white. Now that's
my that's my speech on that. That's just my two cents,
because obviously it's coming from a place that I've thought

(01:12:28):
a lot about. Because I'm forty five. I have a
girlfriend I'm in love with. But I'm forty five and
haven't done any of the White Picket Fence of it all.
And when I do, you've done.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
You have done one thing that you have done, one
thing that is very and I think I know what
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
I have a home and a dog.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
You've you put together quite a career and and that's
and that's part of the White Picket Finch fairy tale.
And I think, and I'm gonna be honest with you,
I think that is part of the reason why so
many people nowadays are having a hard time finding the uh,
the person that they're looking for or the person that

(01:13:06):
they think is out there for them. They're perfect person.
You have to focus on yourself, if you're listen. I've been,
I've been in that relationship where it was like, let's
make this work, because maybe we can be happy if
we make No. Man, you have to be happy first
to be able to make someone else happy. You can't
be a miserable person and then and and expect to

(01:13:29):
find happiness in someone else. It doesn't work that way.
That's not how it works. Regardless of what regardless of
what the movie says, and everything like that. That's not
how it goes. You have to be confident in yourself first.
And I think you're already there, and so I think,
I think, I think. I don't think the problem is
whether you want to you know, why me? Why hasn't

(01:13:52):
it happened for me yet? I don't think it's I
don't think you're ready for it yet. I think if
you wanted it, you could go get that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Anybody will get that. I'm sure Cam, especially in that
Onesie could go, could go on dates and and meet
chicks to hook up with.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
But the ones here in the mustache make you look fire.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Listen, Cam, I'm sure what called what I think is
happening is that Cam uh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
On your body cam?

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
If you want these things. I'm sure you're dating, not
in COVID, but pre COVID. I'm sure you were dating, right, yes,
And are you on any of the apps?

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
It's a relationship so some some months yes, some muths know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Yeah, yeah, I can tell you that that of course
you gotta be You gotta be on the field. You know,
you can't be in the stands. You got to be
playing the game, right because if you're if you're not
I mean, nowadays, you know, people don't want to go
lean on a bar and yell to a stranger. I
like your skirt. You can actually have a chance to

(01:14:57):
kind of get to know someone a little bit. Yeah,
think you're just sitting there giggling at me. Did you
fucking hit that weed during our break? Did you hit
the weed?

Speaker 7 (01:15:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Man, I wouldn't about you. I want you. I want
you to be I want I'm gonna be one hundred
honest with you. There will never be a time ever
when we're making this podcast where while we're making it,
I'm smoking weed unless.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
We all agree that we're smoking weed during the PA.
Let's come, let's come in, hold on, let's no listen
once once. Once we're all injected and we and we're safe,
I think we should do an episode where we get
together in the same room and get high as balls

(01:15:42):
and do the show.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Yes, that's finding me. It won't be any different from me,
It just be different for y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
All right, Sorry, but back to Cam's closet. Might be mad,
but we can have well maybe because the kids will
be back at school. Cam. One thing I just want
to say is that you have to know that it's
it takes work to sustain a relationship. It's not just

(01:16:11):
like if I think one thing that one thing negative
that's coming to the apps is that everyone's just like
pulling the roulette wheel and sorry, I think everyone's pulling
the one arm bandit. What do you call that thing?
Slot machine? Yeah, yeah, everyone's everyone's like okay, okay, oh cool,
she's cool. Yeah, we had a good day. Oh I'm
liking her. Oh she smokes drink. Next, Oh oh she
was kind of obnoxious to uh, you know, I want

(01:16:34):
people are people are are pulling the slot machine so
quickly being like thank you next, As Ariana Grande said,
and and whereas if you are in pursuit of a
committed relationship, it does take patience and giving giving something
time to brew.

Speaker 5 (01:16:53):
Yeah, I think I been guilty of that on some dates,
So I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
I'm sure there may be girls you went on a
date with and one sing negative happened and you're like,
fuck this. Then that girl could have been amazing. She
might have had a bad night.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Right, Donald, Donald, I, I I was just thinking about that.
Or you might have had a bad night and you
might want that second chance, you know what I mean. Like,
that's that's the thing. The first impression ship is it's
it's you always hear the story. Well, the first impression

(01:17:30):
was horrible, but the second impression, that's when I knew
I liked the person. With these app things, Now, you're right,
it is swipe. I don't I don't know, but I
imagine that it would be with my kids at least
swipe swipe, swipe such and and and it's like everybody's
reading attributes nope, next and when did you ever have

(01:17:52):
that next? When did you have that? Right? But when
did you ever have that uh, that capability? You had
to get to know somebody before all of that. And
sometimes when you got to know somebody, you were able
to dismiss some of the attributes that you're reading, you
know what I mean. And so that's the one thing
that's a little bit crazy about the the the the

(01:18:17):
state of dating nowadays, this computer age, this app age,
it just seems like there's just there's there's a little
bit of a disconnect because you're doing it through the
wires of the computer. You're getting to know you know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
But I do think it's I'm very pro I think
you know, Daniel is one person. I have another friend.
I'm very I've seen people really find true love through it, So.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm just saying there
are steps that are you know what I mean. Whereas
you had to make an effort just to see each
other and talk to each other before. I now try
typing it on the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Try and match, Try and match Cam, because that seems
to be the one I keep hearing works for people.
And you know, Tinder, you know, I think it's for
people looking to hook up, you know. And I don't
really know about the other ones because I've never been
on them.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
But I've never been on Bumble.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
I've never I've never been on any of that ship Cam.
I recommend Match because I feel like that one I
seem to I seem to have a lot of people
they don't. They should advertise with this because I've I've
I've heard a lot of people have success with that one.
But anyway, Cam, the point is you got to put
in the time and don't just and don't just especially
now during the pandemic, there's no reason you can't be
like laying foundation and flirting and getting yourself out there.

Speaker 5 (01:19:28):
Yeah, I think that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
I recommend an only fans page cam. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Also, also, don't be afraid to start on Donald. You
realize that every guest that comes on you recommend they
get an only fans account. Well, I think you're turning
our guests into.

Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
Versus my first suscriber. Only if it's Donald, Only if
it's free.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
I don't think you can watch? Yeah you can, you can,
they're free, they're I've done my research about this only fans.

Speaker 5 (01:20:05):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
I looked twin what's your name? Got it? And one
made all that money. I was curious. I was like,
what did you subscribe?

Speaker 7 (01:20:10):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
I wasn't gonna give her money, but that was the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Thing that you subscribe to only fans? Did What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
Bella Thorne was the first person that made me go,
what the fuck is this? And I looked it up,
but I.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Did you subscribe to OnlyFans? Though? No, I haven't subscribed
to only fans like I have not even like listen,
I'm gonna be honest with you, man. There are a
bunch of people in I just spit on my camera.
Look at that ship, that ship, there are a bunch
of people in on Instagram that have only fans and

(01:20:44):
male and female, and I'm like, why would you get
only fans? I don't understand, you know what I mean?
And then I heard about the money you can make
why and it's like yeah, And then it's like, wait
a second, you could make some money on only.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
People want to see naughty ship.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
I mean, they don't necessarily have to do naughty.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Yes, you have to like beat off, but you have
to like show.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Something I got I gotta show. I gotta show junk.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
I think, Joelle, why Joe, what are people paying for
if they're not?

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
So here's the problem. Here's the problem is that people
like celebrities are like, oh, I'm doing only fans and
everyone's like, oh, naughty bits, dope. I will pay one
hundred dollars for that photo. And then they get the
photo and you can have seen that on Instagram and
you're like, what the hell did I.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Just spend one hundred dollars for? So you can go
on there and post whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
But customer satisfaction varies.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Right, But you haven't answered my question, Joelle, which is
what am I seeing on only fans? As a satisfied
customer that doesn't involve nudity, nothing, nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
I mean, there wasn't ever intentionally designed for this originally
supposed to be for like artists and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
No matter what, no matter what anyone invents, they're like, okay, now,
how can we use it for sex?

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
It's just like Patreon, and Patreon also has as this
as well. There are people who sell you know, sex
work on Patreon. It's just only fans became something that
seemed more for that. Yeah, but even so their platform.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
I feel like, you know, what is it, two birds
with one stone? Only fans, you're meeting people, meeting new people.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
No, I don't think you should go on only fans.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
And two you're making money. So let's let's just get
down to it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Don't take his advice.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
It's the American white Oh god.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
All right. On that note, Cam, you are welcome. You're
welcome to We hope that you'll when you finally meet
someone that you have some stronger feelings for than just
a hook up. I hope you'll let us know and
check in. And I do think that you should use this,
this opportunity, this moment that you were on the podcast
wearing our faces on you as a means of hooking

(01:22:55):
up with your new lady. If there's like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Any girl out there that you want to talk to
right now, if you I don't mind putting pressure on you, Cam.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
No, I'll do with your sister and your brother.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
No, you don't want to You don't want.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
To call out anyone specifics name in South Carolina?

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Well people all the time. You know who you are.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Girl.

Speaker 5 (01:23:13):
This will just be a story for a date, right right,
story by the.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Way, by the way, and by the way, and this
is how you end the story. You go and and
then and then after they gave me that advice, all
I could think about was you wow, man, Mike Tropp,
Mike Troup, Dan the sound of a mi trop.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Can't now you just used it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Man, Missus Cam doesn't listen to this podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
If they're gonna work out that she probably does. Man,
they probably have that in common.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
What's gonna bring listens to the office?

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
We fixed Cam Man. She listens and that's probab podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Alright, we gotta go because I have to pee and
we've really done the show. Cam. You can stay for
the end because we pretty much did the show. It's
a weird one, but we laugh.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:24:03):
I want to go on real quick, real quick. I
just I appreciate y'all. Joelle mentioned Ted Lasts so earlier,
but this podcast definitely came wrong at the right time
for me obviously, right when the pandemic started, and for
my mental health has been a blessing every week. I
thought a lot about Jimmy V and what he said
in one of his speeches on ESPN about you should laugh, think,

(01:24:23):
and have your emotions moved to tears every day and
it's a full day.

Speaker 5 (01:24:26):
And this podcast definitely does those three things for me.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Every time I listen.

Speaker 5 (01:24:30):
I appreciate all of y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Listen. There is no better There is no better compliment, Cam.
And if you're out there and we are making you
laugh and and I can't tell you there's no thing
that makes Donald and I and I'm sure Joell and Danelle,
but I can definitely speak for Donald and I. Nothing
makes us happier than hearing somebody say that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
So absolutely, it's also just for selfish purposes, you know,
just for you're right, Cam, Like, just for us to
be able to get together once twice a week and
talk to each other, you know. And this time I
don't see a lot of people, and you know, I
I was starting to hang out with Zach again and
then you know, we got locked down and stuff like that.

(01:25:11):
So I definitely appreciate what you're talking about, Kim. I
totally feel you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:16):
Man cool, thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Man, all right, everybody, thank you for listening, and we'll
be back with more soon.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Wait, but before we go. Last week we did five, six, seven, eight,
and people got pissed.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
I think Okay, I think we did, but we didn't
trust we did not. So Donald, do you want me
to do it? Because I've been a while since I
did it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
Get your mouth, Freddy, let me warm up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Baby bibo boom baby baby bi bo boo. The lips
tip the tongue, the lips tipsy the tongue, Whether will
it be colder, whether would be hot? Will be together like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Like or not?

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Ready?

Speaker 7 (01:25:53):
Sure, we made about a bunch of.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Animal who love making.

Speaker 5 (01:26:01):
I said, here's the stories.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Nepww should know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
So gadder rand you here, Gader round you

Speaker 7 (01:26:10):
Here, our scufree my shobies and no mm hmmm,