411: My Unicorn

On this week's episode, JD gets a diary with a horse and a sword and Matthew Perry flies model planes. In the real world, the guys have decided to find Joelle a lover. Apply at [e-mail].

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, everybody, what's up? What's up? Hi? Hi? Hi guys,
phase on, Hi, how are you man? I'm I can't complain, Donald,
I can't complain. I know you can't complain. Motherfucker. I
love you so much. I love you so much. I
wish I could give you a tight hug, breast to breast.
I would receive said hug. Yeah, with open arms. I

(00:23):
would tell you I would lift my breasts and then
lower them onto yours. Wow. Yeah, I would see all
little pick up and then I would just drape them
onto yours. You would lift up your non existent boobs, well,
don't call them non existent for long. My pectoralis majors
are coming. I didn't say you had I didn't say
you didn't have pecks. I said if you don't have boobs,

(00:46):
well I would take my shape right now. Listen, listen, Gab,
I listen you listen. Gab Union is in real ships.
I'm looking at Gab Union's Instagram and I'm getting back
on that peloton for longer amounts of time. So yo, dude,
and stand next to her looking like a melted candle.
I think my nude stuff is coming up, or you

(01:09):
see coming up? Right, my dude, I got I I'm
gonna I'm not gonna lie. I work out, but I
don't necessarily eat the best. Yeah, he ain't ready. Well,
I would think if I had a sex scene coming up,
I would and I was you, I would go all

(01:29):
out with everything, throw the kitchen. Here's the thing. Here's
the thing. This is the poll that I wanted. Because
my wife still loves me regardless of what weight I am.
I don't think if I had a six pack. I
don't think my wife would be like, damn, man, come
here and give me that day. Really, because I don't
think you said she's lusting all over the Bridgerton guy. Yeah,

(01:50):
but that's come on, man, that's a dude on television
who's playing a character who's written specifically for that. You
know what I mean? If that guy in real life,
I don't know what he's like, but I imagine he's
not as smooth as Bridgetin is. And if he is,
he has to put he have to put on the
Bridgeton accent. That's all I'm saying. My point is, and
a dude is in shape, sure, whatever, but I imagine

(02:11):
my wife would still love me regardless of whatever shape
I'm in right, So the poll I want out there
is what do women prefer? You know what I mean,
that's the question, if you really want to, if you
really want to tell me, at Me, at Zach, at Joel,
and at Daniel, what do women prefer? For real? Or
how about this? What do you prefer? I can say,

(02:34):
I know what Zach's gonna say. I know what he prefers.
I'm asking, what do you prefer? Listen? I don't. I
don't know. I'm sure it's each their own. Women like
different things. For me, For example, my girlfriend's not super
into abs and being ripped, me being ripped. But for
myself before I go shirtless in next to Gabrielle Union

(02:58):
in a giant movie, I want to. I want to
at least try to get as lean as possible. I
fear you on that one. That's that's that's a listen man,
I totally get it, man, because look, if it was
me next to gab Union right now, it would be
everybody be like, da, how did that? What did he do? All? Right? Listen,
you know what I'm most excited about is this live show.

(03:19):
Everyone's talking, dude, It's going crazy right now. We're starting
to get to some momentum. People are talking about it
on the interwebs, and I'm the more people that are
talking about it and saying they're so stoked, the more
like excited and brainstormy. I'm getting about ideas. I know,
because now it's getting to the point where we really
got to think about this. Dude. We can't just we

(03:40):
can't just put out some bullshitt them what they want.
You and I don't put out bullshit, but we have to.
We have to give them something good, right and um,
you know. So one idea I came up with is
this is something I'd like to run by you. I
started running it by you guys in the group chat,
but I think you know, I'm tired of trying. I've

(04:01):
done all I can to recruit a dating app to
come on and sponsor the date Joel Monique segment, and
we haven't had any responses, not even from Farmers Only.
No one is interested in coming aboard for this. I
thought that one of our listeners might have a friend
who works although I just as I'm saying this out loud,
met a woman who works at Bumble Joel, will you

(04:23):
remind me to reach out to that woman in bumble
I just met, all right, But the point is we're
taking matters into our own hands. This is my idea. Donald.
Now you tell me if and when you hate it.
We set up an email. It's called date Joel Monique
at gmail dot com. If you think that you are
a good prospective suitor for Joel, you should submit a

(04:50):
few sentences of why you're perfect to go on a date.
Probably virtually at this point with Joel. Now, we don't
want any dirty talk. We don't know what if you.
If you try and get dirty with it, you're eliminated. Certainly,
if you submit a dick pick, you're out. We don't
want to see your Daniel said last week, no dick

(05:11):
picks and nothing, nothing inappropriate. But I'll give you an example.
If I was trying to get on this right, I
would say, Miss Monique, you are so you are so beautiful.
I am so charmed by your voice, and I can't
think of anything more perfect on my Friday night. Then
pulling bong hits, watching rebels, petting and petting your puppy.

(05:36):
Will you please let me have a zoom chat with you?
All right? Now, that's the kind of thing that you
know don't steal my ship, but that's the kind of
thing that would be appropriate. And then maybe some pictures
of yourself or your instag probably if you if you
have an Instagram handle, sent it, because let's be honest,
you know, looks for a part of this. And then um,
if you don't have an Instagram handle, sense of pictures. Now,

(05:57):
my idea, dolld is that we and by we I
mean Joel and Daniel go through all of the emails
and we pick the two best candidates and bring them
on the live show and do our own date Joel
Monique dating game. That would be so fucking awesome. I

(06:19):
knew you'd love it. But the only way it's awesome
is if Joell wants to do it. Oh Joel, do
you want to do it? I didn't even ask you.
We are so far into this then definitely. Well well,
well I have I have doubts. I have you know,
dating is weird, So we'll see. I encourage you guys

(06:39):
to just bring your a game and let's let's see
what happens. We'll meet at the very least, we'll probably
meet some interesting people and that'll be fun. I don't know.
And also it's it's they can be men or women, right, Joel. Yeah,
everybody is welcome to apply. Everybody is welcome. You can
be a woman who's interested in women or a man
who's interested in women. And and I think that what

(07:01):
we'll do. I haven't figured out all the logistics yet. Donald,
should we hide the person so Joel, Billy? Should we
hide the person so Joel can't see them? How we're
going to figure out how to make it the most fun.
But then here's my wait, wait, wait, wait, last my
last thing is I know this is complicated, guys, and
I'm sorry. This is just you're hearing the live brainstorming

(07:22):
for the live show. Because I'm so excited about the
live show. We found this website where you can take
quick polls. And then my thought is, I'm gonna let
the crying dog out in one second, Billy, I'm trying
to set Joelle. We can have the audience, everyone watching
the live show go to this website where you can
do live polls, and they'll pick no. Joel will ultimately

(07:44):
be up to you. But just like the dating game,
we'll be able to say the audience has selected Jimmy
or Karen Love it can I ask another question. Will
there be a follow up of course to said date?
Of course, it's just we're just stealing. We're stealing this
the structure. We're going to do exactly the dating game,
well not exactly where. I'm not gonna say we'll be

(08:09):
back in two and two of course not. But it's no,
it's no longer I'm sure it's no longer copy written
by them. So for Matt wise, I'm sure anyone can
do this by now, right, But do you like that? Again?
Audience and team here, we're gonna hammer out the details.
But this this is the kind of shit I haven't
saw me anyway, I can't sleep, but this is the
kind of shit I'm up thinking about. I'm so excited

(08:30):
about the live show that I'm like, Okay, there needs
to be a Joel dating game section where the audience
can go to that website that we found and take
a quick pull. Which person do you prefer? Do we
do the whole Joel? Do you select who you chose
or who the audience chose. Well, I'm gonna choose the contestants, right,

(08:52):
so I will let the audience select the person that
I will spend some time with. Yeah, but but can't.
But after this at the day and on the dating game,
you would choose. Also, you'd be like, this is who
I want to go out with, and then the audience
and then the audience would be like, well, this is
who we think you should go out with. And sometimes

(09:13):
it would be you know, they would they would be
different people. What happens then then you would be asked,
what do you want to do? Joel? Do you want
to go out with? Who you choose? Choose? Not want
to be in that position, So I'm just gonna let
the audience choose. No, wait, all right, well, okay, it's
up to you. You're the queen of all things Fake
Doctor Friends. But I but I think what's gonna happen

(09:34):
is before Joel decides she we're gonna tell her who
the audience has preferred. And we're gonna only do two
people because I think they do that's too many. We're
gonna we can't have this be the whole show. It's
gonna be a segment. Well look, oh okay, it doesn't
have to be the whole show. We could do it
and we could get to get rid of the first
person within one minute, and then the last two you

(09:57):
know what I mean, You know what I mean. Everybody
pitch everybody like they gotta pick your game game, and
then she picks the two that she wants to stay, right,
but they're staying. They're not staying for the whole show.
What's gonna happen is we're gonna say, okay, uh, Jimmy
or Karen or Susie or Bill, thank you for you one.
And if there's a Karen in there, oh my no,

(10:21):
the first games that it could be whatever, so so
they so then then then then imagine Joel. Joel picks
like a classic Karen with that Karen cut. Yeah I can't,
I can't for all right, but listen, but listen. So
then you guys, Joel go off and if she'll have

(10:41):
her her date zoom, that's what you'll win. You'll win
a date zoom with Joel probably probably pulling Bong hits
and watching rebels and um and then ever I just
described Joel. I just want you to know you're my
cup of team Mama Donald Donald, you can't participate. You
Donald's gonna be the Donald is gonna be sending it
an email for this, Oh my god, it would be

(11:05):
the best conversations ever. Listen, exchanges, it would be it
would be magnificent, it would be thank you Joel. You
guys would just sit there being like no because he
shot first, you know all that ship Well we already
know how that goes man, Come on now, um, all right,
and so we're excited. Joel, do I have your permission

(11:25):
to pursue this plan? Turn that key? All right? Yeah,
all right. Now let's let everyone know the double check
the email that we sign up for, ready, Joel is
date Joel Monique at gmail dot com. That's correct. J
O E L L E M O N I q

(11:46):
u E there you go. Yes, sounds right. Oh my god,
I'm so excited, Jelow listen, I'm excited. I'm very excited
for I'm very excited for this as long as this
is something she wants to do. If this is something
that you've we are pressuring you, pressuring you us, you know.
And I also we also did a little eye messaging

(12:07):
to each other too, so I wasn't pulling this oide
of my ass. Joel's the one who's helped set up
the email, so she was it's just not surprised by this,
you know. Yeah, it's weird good I think, Although, do
you guys think it would be cool if like you
guys voted, if the three or few head of vote
audience voting. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah absolutely. I have a
feeling there's going to be clear. I mean my senses,
there might be a clear front runner. But I think

(12:28):
if we if we pick them right, m and by
the way, you, I don't sit, how does that happen?
We can't pick for her? We can't. No, It's just
like if you're on an app and you were swiping
left her right, You've got it. That's anonymous until I know.
But this, listen, what's what's the worst is gonna happen?
You're gonna spend fifteen minutes zooming with someone heard somebody's feelings? Bad? Listen. Okay, okay, okay,

(12:51):
So there it is. There there is a disclaimer. Then
here's the disclaimer. Be prepared to get disc because this
is dating and this is well we're going to be
We're not going to be rude to you, but we're
gonna say on this particular first date, Joel has chosen
fu Quan. Oh my god. I tried to go opposite
of Karen. I know, what you did, because you went
because you went straight up typical names, and then you

(13:12):
got well I knew no matter what name I said,
you were going to criticize it. So I tried to
go as far away from Bill and Karen as possible.
I like Bill. Bill is a good name. I like it.
I'm not gonna lie until the whole Karen thing started happening.
Karen was a nice name. There were a lot of
people would really it wasn't. By the way, Bill so cute.
He texts me this morning He's like, hey, man, um,

(13:34):
I'm on the live show right right on. Oh yeah, no,
Bill is really I love it when he gets like needy,
He's like, my am, I on the live show. Um. Anyway,
Bill is not only on I'm gonna be on the
Live show, guys, but he's also going to be on
our Family Feud, which is so thrilling. Well, the only

(13:56):
negative thing is we learned that it doesn't air all
the summer, which is oh word, yeah, But that's fine.
That's fine. I know the summer's gonna be here like that.
That's fine. Where you know what we're you it'll be
on YouTube, it'll be no wait, did you guys watch
us on Drew Drew Barrymore, No, I did not. Did

(14:17):
you see her in the onesie? I did see her.
I saw that though. That was amazing, fabulous, Oh my god,
it was so funny. I did not think she was
gonna come out wearing that onesie Donald, and she did.
I was very happy she did. I was very happy
she did that. Would that that actually? Shout out Drew
Barrymore man, thank you for she said she'd come on
our podcast. Yeah, should we have a rub? Yeah? I

(14:37):
think so. I think it would be great. Fuck. Sorry,
Drew Barrymore is gonna come here, Drew Barrymore said, I
said on her live show corn on her show, Well,
I did corner her. But I know that she genuinely
loved Scrubs, and I know that she genuinely loves me
and Donald. So I don't know why she wouldn't take
an hour and come on and plug her But she

(14:58):
didn't even have to do She doesn't even have to
do an hour. But she could come on plug her show.
We could talk about whatever episode, or we could just
do uh convers I think we do a conversation with
Drew Barrymore, because I mean think how many great stories
Drew Barrymore has. I'm not going to be a whole person.
I can't be expected. You're gonna have to keep that episode.
I'm gonna try Drew freaking Barrymore. Oh my god, Okay,

(15:19):
it's Lawrence. Lawrence told me that she could recite every
single one of Drew's lines from Charlie's Angels because it's
mother effin classic movie. I guess god. All right, Well,
that's a lot of a lot of ship going on.
There's so much to talk about show. We uh get
into our theme soft about show we made about nurses.

(15:50):
He's a story sound here an here you So one
of the reasons I have to peel all the time
is I spoke to this nutritionist, right because I've never
spoken nutritionists in my life, and and you know, she

(16:11):
gave me a whole bunch of things to do. And
but of course the first thing they all tell you
is you really have to drink a lot of water,
because we all know that, but we don't do it.
So I bought this thing. It's this giant it's it's
it's what is this how many leaders? It's two it's
two thousand milli leaders, which is what shoe leaders. Yes,
all right, so it has all these inspirational um quotes

(16:34):
on it with times like you got this, keep going
drink more and and I've been drinking it now. Of
course you have to peep, Like peeing becomes a part
of your life in a whole new way because you're
like you always have to peek. Yeah, you even dread
going on long car drive rides. I know. I'm like,
this is my day two of this, and I'm like
having to strategize where the where the bathroom's going to be.

(16:57):
But bro, apparently this is like one third of what
I'm to drink. Yeah, you're supposed to literally, Okay, so
check this out and check this out. When I, uh
so I for kick Ass two, I got into six shape,
right like six shape. When I say six shape, I
was pretty ripped, like more ripped than I'd ever been

(17:18):
in my life. I wanted to redo it, and so
I went to a nutritionist like you did. This man
had me drinking damn near three gallons of water a day. Lord,
let me tell you something. It's like a side job.
Let me tell you, But let me tell you something.
You never feel better. You feel first of all, your system.

(17:41):
Your system feels like it's at maximum drive, dude, because
you are now fueling your body with which with what
you are mostly made of, which is water. And so
now you're flushing your system and putting new water in
and there's minerals and you're taking your multi vitamins and
now that's streaming through your gut. Is all of a sudden,

(18:04):
like everything. Water is so essential, and we take it
for grant. I take it's like too, man, It's like
not putting oil in your car. I think, yeah, and uh,
and I've never done it. I've always And I'm really
trying to turn over some new leaves because why not.
I mean, we got we got all this time and
and and so I'm trying and I put a little

(18:25):
I put an emergency packet in it, um, you know,
so it has a little bit of flavor, you know,
very mild flavored, because otherwise I'm way more apt to
drink it if there's just even a smidgeon of a flavor.
If it's just water, I'm like, oh, dreading it. Are
you guys doing infusing your water? Are you doing that?
Super like pH balanced water? We can do that too.

(18:47):
There's water this is well, I have I have a
filter on my tap, but it's filtered tap. And then
I and then I you know, the packet. The packet
has like electrolytes and ship when I did remember the Titans,
The what the trainer who trained us for that movie
told us to do the day before we had our

(19:07):
shirtless scenes was drink distilled water because then that flushes
out all the salt and minerals in your body and
so then your skin shrinks. Did you notice? Oh fuck, yeah, dude. Yeah.
And then that morning you're supposed to like eat oatmeal,
so that all of the so that the day the

(19:28):
day of you eat oatmeal, so that soaks all of
the water, the leftoveral water into the oatmeal and you
get ripped. Anyway, I'm trying to I'm trying to just,
you know, why not take on a hobby of like
how healthy can you eat? That's what I'm trying to do.
I like that. It's great. Shall we talk about your recap?

(19:49):
Do you have a recap? I don't have a recap today.
Oh I see, So there's sort of a new pattern,
like you fucking drop these ridiculous wraps and then on
other days you take it time off to refresh your rain. Uh,
it can't be all the time. And I think DJ
Daniel his beats are precious and I don't want to

(20:12):
fire DJ Daniel. That last what do you think of
this episode? So we were talking about this Matthew Perry episode.
It is um uh four eleven my unicorn. Yes, in
some ways it's a bit of a B side. Well,
the get was that we had Matthew Perry on the
show and that was the that was the huge that

(20:36):
was the great thing about it. The epide. After watching
the episode today, it was, okay episode, It's like it's
it's it's got it's not that many funny. Yeah, it's
a but some B sides are dope and it's you know,
this is like the I don't know, it's a good episode.

(20:57):
Casey was like, Wow, that one wasn't that funny. That's
what she's that to me. She was like, it's good.
She was like, it's a good It was good, but
it wasn't that funny. Like the story and it is
pretty cool that the connection between the dad the grandfather,
Like there's if I'm not mistaken, isn't that matt Perry.
So in the episode, the actor playing Matt's father is

(21:21):
his father and is that his grandfather? No, By the
way I read, I had to look at it's funny
out because he said his last name so aunt. So
the guy playing old Murray, who's you know? If you
recall this episode, every time they say Murray, all these
old men pop their heads out of the doors because
Matthew Perry's like, why did you name h Murray? It's
an old person name. So just coincidentally, I read on

(21:42):
scrubs WICKI the actor who I imagine might not even
be with us anymore because he was playing an ancient man,
was Anthony Perry, no relation to Matt Perry, but John
Bennett Perry plays his father. And he was great by
the way. He plays the guitar and he sings, and
he was very charming, and I thought he did a
great job. He would He did a very good job.

(22:05):
And I thought I thought Matt did a great job too.
I think, and Matt directed it, But you haven't noticed
that people usually do a good job when they direct themselves. Well,
I think Matt at the time, as I recall, was
was interested in maybe getting to doing more directing. And
um and Bill said Um, come do scrubs, Come guest star,

(22:28):
and we'll let you direct one. I think that's kind
of what. They're pretty good friends, aren't they. Um. I
don't know if they would say they're good friends. Their
their friend Lee. Um. Obviously Bill was was was super
close with Courtney Cox because they did Cougar Town together. Um,
and and and Matt and everyone you know hangs out
at Courtney's house. And I think and Courtney has lots

(22:49):
of barbecues and stuff, So I think Bill got to
know Matt there. But I don't think that he and
Matt ever hang out. Oh. I don't know. I don't
think they ever really like hang out or do shit together. Okay,
but anyway, there's some there are that. Having been said,
there are a handful of um, laugh out loud moments. You're,

(23:10):
first of all, the introduction of JD's journal. This is
called my Unicorn because I'm given the journal by by
Matt Perry's dad, and I instantly draw what I claim
is a horse with a sword on its head. Yes,
who's there to protect my hopes and dreams? Yes, which

(23:31):
everybody else sees as a unicorn? Yes, And you correct
them over and over again. Also, now why And then
and then the unicorn comes to life in a in
an animated sequence and says, do you know I'm a unicorn? Yeah?
So why is JD? Is JD embarrassed to have a unicorn?
So he's saying, it's not a unicorn, it's a horse
with a sword on his head? Yes? Because why because?

(23:55):
Because a unicorn is just one step to effeminate for JD. Yes,
but in his mind, a horse with a sword on
his head. Fine, fine, no, there's nothing wrong with There's
nothing wrong with somehow gluing or or or fusing a
sword to a horse's head. That's way more masculine than

(24:18):
a unicorn. Yeah. So JD's embarrassed to admit that he
loves unicorns and has drawn one on his on his
Hopes and Dreams journal. And the first time I laughed
a lot. But I started watching this episode, I'm like um,
and I'm like okay, man, man mat. And then all
of a sudden, Cox go I say to Cox, guess

(24:40):
what I found on the internet? And he says a
set of adult male shoulders, and and then I go
totally earnestly, they had to trim them to get me
out of that, well, did you have to rewind it?

(25:02):
That is far and away the funniest sentence in the episode,
and it's it's totally I don't know, it's I don't know,
I don't know. Sweets for my sweets had me laugh
out loud. Yeah, that had me laugh out loud. That
had me laugh so hard. I don't want to to
what would you mean, just do to pose? And then
Matt Perry does some crazy ass for the three that

(25:22):
that was funny. So the theme of this episode is
that the ladies are using their feminine flirtation powers to
manipulate people in the hospital. Yes, Carlo pushes or boobs
together and gets cake, gets cake, and Jordan manipulates somebody
in the beginning to the security guards to Parker car right,

(25:42):
and then the joke is that Elliott doesn't like the
ethics of it and also is horrible at it. Right,
and but when she gets but when she finally does
do it, she becomes addicted to the right to to
the power that she her newfound power. But they go
to help her, and in the end, the janitor does it.
The janitor. The janitor saves her. But also this is

(26:04):
because yeah, we really get a sense that the janitor's
in love with Elliott and wants to marry her. Well,
she uses the power on him. No, she gives him
the wink and the tongue lick. Right right, Does she
give him a wink and a tongue lick? Or she
just yes him? She gives him a wink and he
runs out of there real quick. Her JETI powers to
keep your analogy going are so fucking potent that the

(26:27):
dude drops the carpet he's mopping by the way, fopping
cart and uh goes out in his van with the
doors flapping open. I can only assume that happened by mistake,
and they kept it because it's funny because he drives
off in the shitty van and the doors fly open. Right.
The only way it would have been better is if
boxes flew out in the back right, or Randall or
Randall Marty. But anyway, m dude, I was sleeping whatever.

(26:55):
Um So then he goes and buys a ring, and
he comes back and he gets on knee and she
walks right right, and he yells at the ring. I
told Judas well, it was twelve dollars. What do you expect?
That's all he had, right well, he the guy was like,
the jeweler was like, this is so expect whenever this
price ten thousand, He's like, I have twelve dollars. The

(27:18):
joannitor has no money, but he he probably would have
money if he didn't spend it on things like building
a squirrel army and knife frenches. Right well, yeah, right,
must something must be coming up soon. Oh, something must
be coming up soon. You're you're you're religious. Your religiosity

(27:40):
disappeared for a few seasons, but now it's back. There
must be a story coming soon. Oh really, you think
they're laying the seeds for you to needing to be religious.
Maybe it's related to your diabetes. Maybe I don't know.
But you you literally say to the crucifix, you pull
it out and you go, please get her. Yeah, you're
saying to Jesus to get Carlo or something. Is that

(28:00):
like blasphemy right there? Like wouldn't that wouldn't like And
this is the end. That's how Jonah Hill got possessed
by the devil. What what do you mean? Spoilers? Jonah
Hill gets possessed by an evil demon and give a
spoiler alert for a movie that's not old anyway. Do
you guys don't remember this? He goes, yeah, I remember,

(28:22):
please kill Jay. He I don't know this movie. You've
never seen this. At the end, oh Rihanna punches the
ship out of what's his face and it's amazing. Yes, yes,
I mostly lived for that moment. Could be a good
movie for your first date with the person you're going
to get in this live show, you should start thinking

(28:42):
of things that you can do and during your zoom,
oh my god, okay connect four, connect four four, he
with two sets? You need two sets? No, she would
just say, Fuquan, where would you like the red chip
to go? Red Chip? Pay attention red Chip, pretty sneaky food. Quon.

(29:06):
I will absolutely take suggestions for what to do on
a date over a video call, because well, it's only
I think we're gonna take the pressure off by by
saying it's just a fifteen minute palette letter to see
if there's any connection. Okay, and everyone's gonna want to
know the follow up. I want to know if they
want to go on a second date. Yeah, okay, oh
you know, and then we'll have the person on um.

(29:29):
Even if the date when poorly, we'll have the more
to analyze what happened. No, I do not. That's the game.
We were doing a dating game. If it well, we'll
see if we are doing a version of the dating game.
But if it goes bad, it's so okay. You're right,
though you're right, your life is not. Yes, now, we

(29:52):
just ever would in this show. And I gotta say,
I don't like ever What was Everwood? Everwood was a
w B show and I believe it was classic and
I believe it was created by Greg Berlaney, if I'm
not mistaken, who gave me my big break in the
film The Broken Hearts Club. So when you did that
in this didn't you say I would? You know? Now,

(30:14):
I gotta be honest. I don't like jokes that that
just dis other people's shit for no reason, right, And
I don't like that either. And I and you know,
we did it back in the day because we didn't
know better. But I I always put some bad taste on.
I was like why And it's a common thing now,
like people are always digging at other shows and other
actors and other people, and I just I would never
do that now, and I don't like it now. I've

(30:35):
never seen an episode of ever would. I imagine it
was a hot CW show at the time and we
were trying to be like snarky. It was amazing. It
was about father son and there was a train station
and medical drama. Oh man, am I right? It was
Greg Blaney the creator, all right? So then I remember
Greg got mad, not real mad, but like, oh, we'll

(30:57):
get them back. And I don't know if it was
Everwood or one of his other shows they did some
scrubs or Zach Braft diss. I don't remember. See, that's
why that seem it's like it's like a rap battle.
That's fine, what do you call them? All right, it's
I'm all right with that. That's that's all right. I

(31:18):
don't want to be part of a disc track situation.
Sure you do, if as long as there are rules
and you're not you know, and it's not taken out
of context. I think it's always a good it's always
good publicity to mention another show or another show mentioned
you or you know. It feels cheap to me, to
be honest. Now, I think if there's an understanding, I

(31:39):
think it's all right. Like I think if there was
a conversation between Bill and Greg like nowadays, if you
were to do that, I would hope that that's how
it would go down and it wouldn't just be you
know that's it just sounds weird to have the showrunner
of Moms going at it with the showrunner of freaking
you know the ash that just you know, beef like

(32:02):
that shouldn't happen. I don't know, I'm all, I'm not
saying anything major or than I don't like humor. That's
like making fun of other people's creations anymore. I think
it's too hard to make shit and it's just me.
You better never ever make fun of me for loving
Star Wars like snore bore just way to like get

(32:22):
this pad going? Wait, told Daniel gives my my head CPR,
there's gonna be so so many snores. Um, should we
take a break, Joe, Yes, we'll be right back after
this break and we're bad back. More to say on

(32:46):
the episode, did you ever do like the hand clapping
games when you were a kid like Bright? I know,
but Joel, I know you did. Come on now oh
she know it ya black silver? But back back back, yeah,
she asked her mother. Mother, M yeah, yeah, yeah yeah

(33:10):
jump so hi I'm teaching my daughter that shit, I'll
teaching my daughter that she loves it. I bet your
daughter would be so good at this clapping that one.
That one's a hard one because then it does all
of this and well, actually she probably could do that.
She's a way better danceing than I am buying. Really already, dude,
she's look she does. I'm so excited for you. I'm

(33:30):
so excited for you, guys, because I just I can't
imagine how fun it is when your kid gets to
be around her age and some sort of talent starts emerging,
whether it be athletic or dance or the arts or whatever.
It must be so thrilling to be like, oh my god, look,
she's definitely got some musical something going on with her. Uh.
I don't know if it's good yet. You know, it

(33:53):
still has to be nurtured. It's still you know, the
of course one thing feeling. You guys are gonna nurtured
it because it's exciting. She's yeah, he needs to go
to the Fame school, dance on a cab. I have
Debbie Allen yell at her. Well, I'm trying. I would
love to put her into Debbie Allen School, the Debbie
Allen schools out here. Man, she has a dance school
out here. Oh, I was making a fame joke. But yes, good,

(34:13):
you know Debbie Allen has a great school out here. No,
I gosh, she has a wonderful school. I would love
her because it's it's kind of far from where we are,
and that's a trek. Like everything that we got going
on right here is within you know, five five minutes away.
One is not one of these schools. I know. Debbie
Allen's more high falutint high art than what I'm about

(34:35):
to say. But you know, you see these schools on
on the on Instagram where the kids are doing hip
hop dance and like the cameras moving in and out
and they're doing like choreography, and you're like, holy shit,
those kids can dance. What about Like, I think you
got to be a little bit older to go to
those those No, I'm sure they have them for all ages.
They don't see. I don't see that. Don't make me Google,
don't make me Google. Get your Google on the man,
I think it's more than the Google. I think I

(34:57):
think I do believe Casey did call them an ask
like you know, is there an age limit? And I
believe at the time, and she might be over it
now while he's under it. We should ask Amanda because
Amanda Clots is dialed in with dancers and stuff. Maybe
she knows that's what's up. Um, all right, is the
caller here? Bring the caller in, Guys, we're excited. Bring

(35:19):
it in. They had a Jack Sherry. Give it up
for Jack Sherry. Who's at the Cheers bar? Jack Sherry,
Jack Sherry. Your background is sometimes you wanna go where
everybody knows your name, it's Jack and they're all that

(35:40):
you game Jack chair, Harry. You wanna go where you
can see people are all the saying beautiful. You want
to go where everybody knows your name. I get Oprah
voice and cheers themes. Now for the listeners, you can't
see Jack Jerry. His head is right over Norm's chair.

(36:04):
His background is the Cheers bar and his head is
right where Norm we used to sit. Yeah. No, so
fun story for that. Me and my friends. We work
in animation, so that's a lot of tough of animation.
Do you work in two D I work at Bento Box,
the studio that does oh Dope. Yeah, you're you're in California. No,
I'm at the Atlanta studio, but right now I'm in Delaware,

(36:25):
so it's all over the place. Wait, what did they do?
What does Bento Box do? The main thing they do
is Bob's Burgers. But that's all la. We handle a
lot of different stuff. Like the shows I've worked on
were like Hoops, which was a very short lived project
over on Netflix. But yeah, no, So we work a
lot of long nights. And one of the things we

(36:46):
started doing, like a year and a half ago, was
the lights would go down at outside of the studio,
the ac would kick off, and we would just throw
on two episodes of Cheers and we would just end
our day watching Cheers. It's great. It's been a while.
So we've since blown through Cheers, We've blown through Frasier.

(37:07):
We have not watched this show because half of the
people listen to this podcast and they don't want to
get ahead of where you guys. Oh that's cool. I
love hearing Jack. I love here when people are actually
choosing to listen as as we go. Again, we have
no idea a way of determining that, although that could
be a poll question. Joel on the live show, just

(37:28):
to take a sampling of we should start assembling questions
we want to ask people, because I know that'll just
be a sampling of of people and maybe a skewed
sample because there are people that are particularly interested in
being a part of the show. But anyway we could
ask because I'm always curious people are doing it like
they're doing it like like as we're going, I really
like that you guys at your job stick together kind

(37:52):
of and watch you know, television together. That's really it's cute.
It is cute. It's like it's that's a tight knit group.
You guys probably do great animation together too, you know
what I mean, Like you know that that's that's a
great way to keep the morella up, especially during these
times good bonding. When I was a kid, in my room,
I had a little portable TV that was black and

(38:15):
white screen about that big. I don't know if you
remember these kind they were like I don't know, I'm
holding up my hands. Maybe it was full five inches
by five inches square, did have like the radio dial
on it and everything, and then had a long back
to it and it was like, you know, it was
like the size of a VCR almost but but but
the screen was tiny. The screen was like five inches
by five inches, and um, that's all I was allowed

(38:37):
to have in my bedroom at this age. And I
and I would go to w PI X and on
the East Coast Donald Knows It and they had Cheers
on every night, and when I was falling asleep, I
would watch Cheers on my tiny little screen. So that
that show has a very spatial special place in my
heart because it was it was the show that I
could get. I mean, first of all, it's a great classic,

(38:57):
but it was the show I could get, like a
Evan on Wax when you stayed up late, when you
stayed up till midnight, We'll kame one. No, do you remember?
I don't know. I think I was a good kid
and didn't stay up husband yet the Honeymooners. Oh really, yeah,
I don't think I ever made it to the Honeymooners.
That's when you knew starring Ralph Kramdon. You're right, You're right.

(39:19):
I probably did occasionally watch the Honeymooners. All right, sir,
welcome to the program. Jack. Do you have a question
for us? I do have a question, and I apologize
if I get a little Rambley. My stories tend to
go all over the look who you're talking to. I know,
I'm a fan of it. I don't mind it. I
hope everybody's okay with it. But yeah, so as an animator,

(39:40):
as someone who makes art, I often look back at
the stuff I made years ago, and I will. For example,
there was in high school I made this sequential like
a comic book, essentially a graphic novel, and there's this
one panel where every time I look at it, there's
like a pan, like a cooking pan in the shot,

(40:01):
And every time I look at it, I'll be taken
back to sitting on my basement floor drawing it, watching
some sub movie on Comedy Central, like way too late
at night, just drawing, and I'm transported to that moment.
And I'm curious, if you, guys, since you're watching all
these all this footage that's decades old or like, yeah,

(40:24):
decades old at this point, if you see something and
you just are snapped right back to like where you
were in your life while filming that. I know you, guys,
and I wrote this in my email, but you briefly
talked about this with Johnny c in one of the
early episodes about filming right after nine to eleven, and

(40:45):
it was it was interesting to hear. So I was
curious if anything like that has come up again, where
it just really really brought you back to some moment
in your life. Yeah, I mean for me, Yeah, I think,
you know, it was nine years and over the course
of a decade, we all have highs and lows. You know,
you fall into relationships, you fall out of relationships. You

(41:06):
Donald went through a divorce, you you know, people in
your life get sick, some get better, some die. I mean,
so much happens over the course of this time. And
I definitely think there are episodes we see that I remember,
Oh I can't even see in my face, like, oh
I was in a good place then, or oof, I
was I look puffy? It was I was drinking too much,
or or I was depressed, or oh I remember that

(41:28):
episode I'd gone through. I was going through a breakup.
And so yeah, at certain times, they trigger, they trigger
memories for me. How about you, Donald, Definitely, it's it's
all kind of blurry though I'm not transported back to
that moment. Ever, I'm always questioning what was I doing

(41:48):
at that time, what was going on at that time,
because I do, like you said, Zach, I feel like
I look a little chubby here, or I look a
little What was I doing? What was going on? And
then you know, sometimes look at the date and then
I have to, you know, go through the mental rolodexs.
What was I doing that year? What was I do? Oh?
That was the year I was getting divorced. You know, uh,
that was the year I had that breakup. Or you know,

(42:11):
this was the year I met Casey. Um, I'm really,
I'm really, I'm actually really excited to get to that
moment in time where I meet Casey and how I
am and how I felt at that moment. That's I'm
really excited for that. You know, I simp so much
on the same show, Dude, I I simp so much.

(42:32):
I don't even know what simp means. It's been around forever,
but I do it so much. It's pretty much like
I freaking worship my wife. Is that what it means?
I worshiped my wife, or I worship the woman in
my life or standing for women? Yeah, I standing. Isn't
that the ideal situation that you simp for your wife?
The ideas that is a bit of an obsessive quality too.

(42:55):
Oh yeah, well like um like the Marshall mothers thing
that he does that standing for what? Yeah, yeah, you
stand for your wife? Yeah, I totally so much. Do
you think that she's ever freaked out by how much
you're obsessed with her? She's like, I got that motherfucker good?
She does right, she knows she's got you good. Yeah,

(43:17):
she got she she knows what's up. She knows what's up.
That's so great, though, I'm happy that you simp her. Yeah, well,
is that how you say it? Simp simp c s
I am simp. It's no h just s I mp

(43:37):
sim simp oh simp donald. There's no pH, but there
is when you say I simp, I know, isn't it?
There's in the in the far side, I simp. Damn
I wish I would I simp. I guess she says.
He says, damn. I wish I wasn't such a whim
because then I would let you know that I love
you so and if I was your man, then I
would be true. The only lion I would do was

(43:57):
in the bedoom. She keeps O pat me bye. That
was my jam. She keeps a pet and me by,
passing me by. You know nothing of this, dude, you
zach no pass me by. It's Far Side, Okay. So

(44:19):
there was this rap group called Far Side from the
West Coast, California. I can't believe I got to educate
you on this, and they had this amazing song, probably
one of the biggest songs of the year. The album
was them on a roller coaster coming out of a vagina. Dude.
The ship was freaking flavor dude, like that's the name

(44:41):
of and their their biggest hit was the song passing
Me By Right, and the hook was she keeps all
pat and me by right. But each one of them,
each one of them kind of sing during their rap verse,
and one of the verses is like, my dear, my dear,

(45:03):
my dear, you do not know me, but I know
you very well, and let me tell you about the
feelings I have. Are you and I try to make
some sort of attempt, I simp, damn. I wish I
wasn't such a whim because then I would let you.
And then it goes into that. But anyway, it was
one of the dopest records ever in the history of
hip hop period. Man like we could say, we could

(45:25):
go on, I could go on and on, but we won't.
It's a great song. Yeah, let's get back to let's
get back to Jack. Anyway, I gonna tell you something
embarrassing that happened, so you know how I'm obsessed with
this song. I told you the Bad Bunny with Rosa
Lee love the song right, so good? Well, my housekeeper
was over and the songs in Spanish, and I wanted

(45:48):
to sort of show off for Rosa. Then I that
I liked a Spanish song. She did not like the song.
Donald's doing her voice because Rosa she's my housekeeper. She
comes over once a week and she's been with me
for twenty years and she's awesome, and Donald knows her,
and she's a character. She has a very high voice.

(46:08):
And so but I was like, I'm gonna I'm I'm
so into a Spanish song that I don't know what
the lyrics are, but I'm gonna crank it for Rosa.
So she thinks I'm cool because I like a Spanish song. Right,
So I'm cranking it in the kitchen. I'm kind of
dancing around, dancing with the dog, and Rose is kind
of looking over at me, and I'm like whatever, And
then I get around to googling the lyrics. You guys,

(46:30):
the lyrics are crazy. It's like, what are they say?
It gets it gets dirty? Just wait, I don't know.
I think it's coming out to me. Wait, it's about
fucking obviously, but there's one part there's I was just
so embarrassed. I just thought it was a love song
because she thinks you want that. Now, this is the lyric.

(46:53):
You got so wet that I got baptized. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he got baptized by her vagina juice. Oh my god, dude,
I was already there. You didn't have to take me.
You didn't have to take me, Jack, Jack, Jack. You

(47:20):
remember when Zach talked to you, when you when you
were asking the question about moments that take you to
those Zach just took me to a moment that didn't
never existed, but bad Bunny, and Zach described him so
well that I was able to get there. He got baptized.
I think Joel Joel was there too. Joell was Joel

(47:42):
felt the Joel felt the begging you to steer this ship.
I'm done. I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. I gotta
come clean to Rosa and Sam. I'm sorry. I didn't
know that there these lyrics were about being baptized. No, no, no, no, no, Zach,

(48:03):
I shouldn't. I shouldn't bring it up. Um maybe she
didn't hear that lyric. I don't know. I just say
I would say, listen if you if that song offended
you in any way, I apologize. I didn't know what
the lyrics. But let me tell you funny another funny
Rosa story that maybe means she wasn't offended. You'll love this, Joel, listen,
So okay, everything every year Rosa gives me we exchanged
gifts down the story, yes, and and um and and

(48:28):
I give her something and she gives me something, just
like everybody ex changed gifts. Whatever. And sometimes she gives
me something that you know, I don't necessarily love, but
I always display it because she's going to be there
once a week and I don't want to hurt her feelings.
So if it's a candle, if it's a vase, it
might not be what I would have chosen for the
center of the table, but I love her and I
don't want to hurt her feelings, so I make sure
that the item is displayed. So to man, Charlie Brown,

(48:53):
All man, Charlie Brown, I don't want to hurt her feelings.
I love her. So cut to one year. I'm unwrapping
my present. Have you ever seen in these things they
sell like on the Tijuana border or like on eBay,
and it's it's signs that are made of old license
plates letters. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, So Rosa has bought
me one of those, and it's giant and the messages

(49:15):
good weed, bad bitches. Yes, yes, a motto for life. Wow. Anyway,
So I above my sink, a kitchen sink is a
giant sign made of license plates that says bad bitch
is good weed. Because I don't want to I don't
want to hurt Rosa's feelings. Oh yeah, did what did

(49:40):
you do? What did you get hurt? Um? You know?
I usually get her a little something to something and
then and then some money. It's like a bonus, like
you know, like you do. Um. I get her a
little nice gesture and then and then cash because everybody
wants cash. Right all right, sorry, Jack, we totally forgot about.
You're sitting in the cheers bar. I'm just listening all right,

(50:02):
all right, directly enough about enough about Jack, don't play
that song for any senior. I do have a similar story.
I was in a frame shop where I was the
only person and I would I would get maybe like
two people on a good day, and so I was
in the back. I was just blasting music and I

(50:24):
think the song that came on was my neck, my back,
and I heard the door like hoping up and I
ran to the front and there was just this old
woman standing. I don't even have like the benefit of
it being in a different language. That was just me.
Oh did she did she? Did she buy a frame?

(50:46):
She did? She was very happened nice, did not scare her?
All right, Jack, time for your next question. Go sure, um,
this is not directly Scrubs related, But I when I
went back to school for animation, I think that's when
I found out Donald that you also did animation. Yeah,

(51:06):
and I I honestly like you. You've mentioned it here
and there on the podcast. I would just like to
listen to you geek out about it because watching the
stuff you post is so nice and I love it,
and I'm curious how you got into it because you
are a successful man and stop motion is not your
main career in any way, So I'm curious how you

(51:29):
have the energy or time to even do something like
stop motion. It's so so meticulous. I'm so happy you
asked me this question. I am too, not because it's
something of people don't know about. I'm not gonna lie
to you. I do stop motion now because I love it, obviously,
and it's an art form and it's a way for

(51:49):
me to express things that I want to do, things
that I you know, how I feel. You know, if
you look at it, there's always some type of meaning
to the stuff I'd do, even if it looks like
it's just somebody walking across the stream screen. Right, That's
what That's what animation is. It's it's you expressing yourself

(52:11):
through your movement, through a movement in some way. Right
when I was a kid, there were a bunch of
after school programs at this private school that my mom
put me in and she couldn't afford it. But one
of the after school programs was this you know, class
with super eight cameras, right, And when I got there,

(52:32):
this woman would try to teach all of these little
kids who were really young, how to do stop motion
and she was having a hard time. So she brought
this kid and who was maybe like fourteen, and he
did it. And he did it with Star Wars action figures,
and I was like and and so we'd have to
wait till the next week. And so we were all

(52:52):
goofing around and everything, and she played what he did
on a screen and he made the Star Wars Action
figures move around, and I was like, oh shit, that's
how they did it. That's how they did it in
the Empire Strikes Back. That's how they and I had
taken like I had already been there for five weeks,
you know, it was once every once every week. I'd

(53:15):
already been there for five weeks, and I had wasted
all of this time. And so now I was like,
I gotta catch up. And so when I started acting
and making money, I would buy things like super eight
cameras to try and practice animation in my apartment growing up,
and I, you know, without without without books and without lessons,

(53:39):
it's really hard to understand the formula, It's like, you know,
and then once you do understand the formula, it's hard
to put it into motion, you know. Well, also to
graduate to the level where you have because I've you know,
as your friend, I've watched his skills go from you know,
simple lego stuff to the stuff you're posting now on Instagrams.

(54:01):
I still, well, I still have a long way to
go there, but you got you. I mean, you can't
see it because you're because you've been living it, but
you've definitely gotten really much better at it. Right anyway,
So I'm I leave the school, I'm no longer there.
We I'm practicing at home. I grow up a little
bit more, and animation is stop motion. Animation is way

(54:24):
too much time. But I'm still a collector, right so
I'm collecting all of these things in my mind, saying
one day I'm going to animate all of these toys.
I meet Seth Green while doing Clueless. Breckenmeyer introduces me
to Seth Green, and Uh. The three of us became
really good friends. And in throughout time, Seth created this

(54:49):
thing called Sweet Jay, which didn't turn into robot Chicken,
but I did some of the voices on the original
on the original series, and uh, for Sony, it was
like a digital series for Sony. And I said to
him one day, you know, I used to do this
as a kid, I've always wanted to do this, you know,

(55:10):
pretty much, saying how do I get into it? And
he was like, well, I'll bring you by the studio
and you can meet some people. So I went by
the studio and he introduced me to some people and
I was like, well, I'd really like to hang out
here a bit. He's like, why don't you intern? I
was like, I can do that. He was like, yeah,
why don't you intern? I was like all right, bet.
He was like I'll pick I'll pick a department for
you to go into and you can and they'll let

(55:30):
you work there. I was like all right, and he
picked puppets and it was like, you know how to
build stop motion animation puppets, which was great for an
animator because now you're learning the bones of the thing.
And then he was like, you know, go meet some
of the animators and I was like all right, fine,
And I convinced some of these guys to come back
to my house. I had just broken up with a girl,
so I didn't need to impress anybody with how my

(55:52):
house looked. I put a freaking big table in my
living room and he liked for There were times, dude,
where like Donald's whole dining room would be one set,
his whole living room would be a different set, and
they were like ethic sets, right Donald, I would do Yeah,
I was good. I would I got crazy with it

(56:13):
at one point, and then I met my wife and
my wife was like, yeah, this is cool. And then
we had kids and then she was like, this shit
gotta go. Donald had the ultimate bachelor pad. They were
like arcade games. There were poker tables, there was like
a movie theater. It was like the dream bachelor house.
And then Casey moved in and she's like, all right,
did the movers pull away? All right, get this shit

(56:34):
out of here, out here now now. But recently, so
what's happened recently is my son has gone away to
college to do art. He's heavily into it. I like
to think some of the stuff that I did as
it when he was younger influenced him. But he's always
had a thing for drawing. And now he's away at
school and his room is empty. So my wife was like,

(56:58):
if you want to set up an animation room, and
she let me do that, and so that's inspired me
to get in there. I'm not going to waste the
time now because it could be something else. I got
to put something up or she's gonna be like, you know,
what are you? What is this even for? So I
might as well. You know, it's great and the locatiens
you take with it, man, I I can't imagine how

(57:21):
meticulous and slow you have to do to move everything
and keep track of it all. And then you started
incorporating camera moves, which is just the next level shit.
Everybody's always like, you should do a tutorial, and it's like,
I don't want to freaking you should do a tutorial.
People would love that. Think about like if you were
able to like do a simple thing that someone could

(57:43):
do with their kid, you know, or you know, if
you if you were to do such a simitar to
do it with kids, it's really her kids have to show,
all right, Well, then forget that they have to show,
So you could teach someone who's inaspiring. I'm sure there's
plenty of people listening, going, oh, that would be a
cool hobby. How the hell do I begin? You can
probably watch some videos on YouTube. There's a bunch of them.

(58:03):
That's how I did it. Yeah, there you go. And
then but now I've sought out like people, so like
there's a bunch of people out there that I've you know,
made friends with, like this one guy who say Booker,
he's uh say Brooker. He's um an animator, he's an
African American animator also, and he's the guy that taught

(58:23):
me most of the stuff I know, which is really cool.
There's a couple of people at LA that have helped
me out this, this dude, Brad Shift. You know, like
there's a bunch of people that have seen my stuff
and have just given me a little bit of tips,
a few tips here and a few tips there, you know.
And and I'm very grateful for it because it is
it's not just a hobby. It's a passion of mine

(58:45):
and I do one day hope to turn this into
uh you know, I feel like I have a lot
to say in this world, and this is a great
way for me to say some of the things I
want to say through stop motion animation. And maybe the
Lucas Company can steal more your ideas Like Black Stormtrooper,
I didn't say it. You do. You don't have to comment,

(59:05):
You don't have to comment, You just you just lean
back in your chair. Look at those sun dresses. They
are lovely, aren't they? All? Right, Jack, it's time for
Delaware's favorite segment, It's time to fix your It kind
of goes hand in hand with what we've been talking about.

(59:27):
I as an animator, I am at this desk for
ten hours a day wherever, and I'm I'm curious, like,
I also want to do stuff for my own Like
I'm working on other people's shows obviously, but I have
hopes of running my own shows or even making shorts
or any sort of creative project. And I'm curious, especially

(59:51):
now when when there's no real separation of work and home,
at least for the people working from home currently, Like,
how how do you find energy to just be like, well,
I just did this for ten hours. I'm going to
exist in this same space and keep doing it. But
for me and you all, like Daniel and Joel both included,

(01:00:14):
you all have a lot of creative endeavors, and I'm
curious what advice you have or just how do you
how do you keep going and doing more stuff for
yourself when it's just more of the same actual work
that you're doing, if that makes sense. Do you have kids?
I do not have kids? Are you married? M I'm

(01:00:35):
just me A lot of a lot of my hustle, Yeah,
showed up like I was doing it for fun before
I got married and had kids. And when I got
married and had kids, I wanted my kids to have
fun also, and it couldn't just be about me anymore,
and so I had to start figuring out new things. Um,

(01:00:59):
and it took a really long time for me to
figure out how to put the time, you know, you know, Zach.
One of Zach's greatest examples to me of how to
make a movie was, it's like a puzzle, he said
to me. It's like a puzzle Donald, and you got

(01:01:20):
to put the pieces of the puzzle together. And when
you figure out the puzzle, you've made a you know,
you've made your movie. And that's what it's like now
in life. It's like you got to figure it out.
It's a puzzle that you know. I get it, you're
in that same space. But if you really want to
create your own things, sacrifices have to happen, and you

(01:01:41):
have to figure out a way to to you know,
even if it's taking a break for a little bit
from it all and then charging up you have to
figure out a way to motivate yourself, like I aspire
to be a better version of myself because I know
everybody else is out there doing it, and they're not

(01:02:01):
going to do it for me. Nobody's gonna call me
up and be like, Donald, this is your dreams are
right here. I'm going to hand them to you. I
have to go out and get it. And so, yeah,
you have to sacrifice, you have. I know you're saying
you hate being in that space for so long, but well,
my avice is that's something you can First of all,
Donald's right, you don't have kids, you don't have a wife,
which which which you know, gives you the ability to

(01:02:26):
spend more time on your pursuits, you know, and what
you want to do. And by the way, you can
change you My first thought while Donald was answering, I
was thinking, you can change up the variables. So even
if you have to go to a friend's house, even
if you have to go to um you know, obviously
when the world opens, backed up a coffee shop whatever,

(01:02:46):
so that you change up your venue so you're not
turning into like Nicholson and the Shining and just feeling
stir crazy and then also make sure the art that
you're animating is quite different. So from whatever you're doing
at your job, it feels new. It feels like I
go work on someone else's project as an actor. Yeah,
I would feel really bored going and then doing that
same thing as as a similar to my project. So

(01:03:08):
I go write something that's totally different, you know, I'll
write something that's in a totally different genre, as totally
different spirit. Sometimes when I'm writing, I write at this
desk I'm at right now. But sometimes I go, oh
my god, I get cavin fever, and I'll just take
my laptop and go write somewhere else. Try to find
ways to to shake up what you're doing so it
feels different. But you know, last thing I just want

(01:03:30):
to say is like it's now. It's now or never,
because you will probably get married and have kids and
then become way busier. Now is the time for you
to be like going making sure you're going for your dreams,
not just being someone who's executing someone else's dreams. Wait, Joel,
did you want to say something? Um? I can, I
can do it in two seconds. But Tony Morrison method.

(01:03:51):
Tony Morrison was raising children as a single mother while
also editing some of the greatest books with the twentieth
century and then wound up writing better books. It's crazy.
She would wake up at four in the morning, work
for two hours, think your kids ready for school, then
go do her job, then come home, then feed her
kids and put them to bed, and then do two
more hours of work, which is exhausting. But it's just

(01:04:12):
essentially what these guys are saying, which is just small
chunks of time, like you just find you have to
find space pockets of time for yourself to make your
projects or nothing. I work sixty hours a week producing
other shows, and then I have to come in and
do my own stuff. Dan I'll similarly to sixty hours
of his work for iHeart, but then it is also
like doing his like live streaming and stuff. So it's

(01:04:34):
just about carving out time and then making sure like nope,
that's my dedicated time. If I want this to eventually
be done, I have to stick to that, like very
intense dedicated time, right. I mean, all your job comes first,
because that's what's gonna feed you, and it's gonna put
all you know, you know, but you have to put
forth the effort. Even if you don't. We talk about

(01:04:54):
the white board. Put it up on a white board
so it reminds you, shit, I got two more I
got to do two more hours of this because at
the end of the day it was just a little
bit of time and you got it done. And you're
all of a sudden, all of a sudden, you're not
on you're not plotting. You know, ten years later, like
I wish I would have I had it, you know,
I had all of this. I could have done it

(01:05:15):
when I was younger, and now I got No, it's
just it's what it is, man, It's this, this is
you probably know this already. It's just you gotta get
out and do it. Just it's it's what it is.
All right, Jack, We gotta go, but very nice meaning
you and Um and Joel. Do you have any kombucha
to give the man? Do you want to give Jackson? Jackson?

(01:05:39):
I think we send Jack a palette of GTS kombucha.
Thank you, GTS, and you can share it with your
co workers while you're watching um famous sitcoms after work
out there in Georgia. But you'll share it with whoever
you're in Delaware. Thank you. Jack, Well, thank you, see

(01:06:03):
you all of you guys are great. It's great hanging out.
Thank you for the pep talk. Good luck Jack, all right,
see you. Let's take a break. We'll be right back
after these fine words. You were wrong. I found his son.
I found his son. I found his son. That's me. Yeah.

(01:06:26):
The song we wrote together that we wrote on the
back of the scooter, Yes, and you rehearsed it a
few times too. Yeah. And then when mister Perry falls,
he does the who falls j D fall noise? Did
you see the pratfall I had in this where I tripped?
Matthew Perry gave me that pratfall to do He's taught
me and was like, now run with it. Really, yes,

(01:06:50):
Why did Matthew Perry need to teach you how to
do a prodfal? You know how to do a pretfal
not like that? That was very involved. Well, you did
a great job. It was funny. How about when Sarah,
how about when Elliott says to Franklin, if you analyze
this urine sample, then maybe I'll have sex with you,
but probably not. Doesn't work on Franklin. He doesn't give

(01:07:10):
a fuck now until Elliott rubs her nipples. Yeah, okay, now, Elliot,
Oh my god, that was quite sexual. For network TV,
that was very sexual. I was thinking. I was like, damn,
Sarah was game for a lot lot of things. Zara
was game to be naughty, and she, um, she really

(01:07:32):
really gave her nipple quite a rub and that works.
It worked, and God, not only did it work for
Matthew Perry, but I think it worked for a lot
of people watching at the time, and it kind of
worked for me just now. When I was watching it too,
I was like, Wow, Sarah, go on with your sexyself. Yeah.
And then I'm in the cafeteria and I rubbed my

(01:07:55):
nipple to get another piece of cake. There's a lot
of nipple rubbing going on in this episode. One for
the Road and then he drops off the cake after
I rubbed my nipple and I go have a good weekend.
What was his name, Gerald or something? Yeah, something like that. Um, Glenn,

(01:08:15):
One for the Road Glenn. Yeah, rubbing your nipple in
this hospital's magical makes shit happen. This was a really
good one. I really liked. I love this moment so
much I want to have sex with it. Yeah, and
then the callback. I love this moment so much that
I cheat on that other moment with this one, get
married to it and raise tiny little moments. Yeah that

(01:08:36):
was a good one. That was good, dude. Yeah, that
was a good one. Dude. That's funny. And then JD
goes to seek out Murray at the airfield and there's
like a north By Northwest homage with the model airplane,
and I remember this really being a pain in the
ask to shoot because we were so psyched. The whole crew.
Everyone was excited because we were gonna have real, a
real model airplane. This is long before drones obviously, so

(01:09:00):
seeing a midle airplane flying was not something any of
us saw regularly. And these guys came out and we
were so stoked, and like take one, they flew it
right into a tree. And so the fact that the
sequence looks so good, a lot of it was just
stitched together. I remember. Eventually the grips rigged the plane

(01:09:22):
so it was on like a zip line, a zip
line kind of thing, so it could fly accurately. And
because because the guys were not accurate with flying this
thing even when they got it out of the tree,
and so the grips came up with all interesting ways
to make it look real, and it looks pretty pretty
decent for what it is. But then it's funny when
it when it crashes, it explodes. I go, what an

(01:09:43):
odd sized explosion because it was like I think it's
meant to be you know this job, it's it's this
tiny plane, but there's this huge explosion. No, those planes
are huge, dude. Those planes are huge. And this one
was probably like the wings, it was probably like four feet.
Really have you There's a spot around the where I play.

(01:10:06):
I played golf, and there's a spot across the street
where the like the thirteenth hole is, and you can
literally see the model planes. And sometimes they have jets. Yeah,
sometimes they have red baron, like the red baron like
you were fighting and stuff. And these things are huge,
like when they put them in their trunk, they got
to fold it like in the big trucks too. Man,

(01:10:26):
those things are the wingspans are It's really you'd think
a jet, a model airplane jet would could kill somebody.
I would think it could. I believe it could. What
about when you're covered in bees? What was that? I
remember that day because the stunt man got stung. Well,
of course I would imagine. So the way they just
digitally put your face on the stunt man, yes, they did.

(01:10:49):
It looked pretty bad. Well, hey man, come on, no,
I don't expect you to get real bees on you.
But it didn't. It didn't look very It looked a
little dated. I mean, were you there? Did you watch
him get the bees? I did. I watched the whole thing,
and I watched him get stung. Did he did he
have any experience with bees? No? Not whatsoever. He was

(01:11:10):
just a stuntman. What a stunt man? They were like
today's work. You'll be getting covered by bees and you
have no training with this. Go yeah, And as a stuntman,
you go okay. This is like you said, So, how
are you gonna hit the wall? I'm just gonna I'm
just gonna hit the wall. Yeah, there's no trick to it.
We're just gonna put bees all over you, right, um,

(01:11:32):
all right, so you're covering bees. Then there's a really
weird moment when Matt Perry says some random story about
how he now that he knows that his father's not
his birth father. It wasn't weird that he was hooking
up with his cousin and I'm like, been there with
my Graham, Graham, which I really don't understand. Did I

(01:11:53):
have Did I have a non biological grandmother that I
accidentally looked up with Do you think you add lived
that or you think that was written in the script?
Been there with my Graham Graham? I don't know. But
it's it's it's bizarre, that's weird. You yell at Carlo,
is it Carlo? You woman? I was covered in bees. Yeah,

(01:12:15):
that's Carlo yellock. It's a it has some funny moments managed,
but it's it's not a it's not the best one,
but but it's not the best one. It's got a unicorn,
It's got the Unicorn journal and uh and again and
it and it has you know, doctor Cox comes through
at the end as always man for you. And we

(01:12:36):
learned that Jad was stuck in a well as a
child and they had to had to shave his shoulders
smaller slid he could squeeze out of the well. That's
the most important fact of Jad's life that we learned. Well,
and I had no idea that Murray was an old
person's name. I played a character Murray and clueless. I
wish I would have known. Yeah, joke, I wish I

(01:12:56):
would have got the Joe Murray. Well, you wouldn't see
a young Murray these days. It does feel an old
man's It doesn't feel like if you're a Murray and
you're a young Murray? Where are you? Yeah? Raise your
hand your head? All right, that's show. That's our show, everybody. Um,
a couple of things. Remember to buy a ticket to

(01:13:16):
the live show on location live dot com. Slash fake doctors.
Is that a Joel? Yes? And if you want to
date Joel, if you feel that you're a good candidate,
please write an email to date Joel Monique at gmail
dot com. Write a paragraph that that is seductive in

(01:13:39):
a non sexual way, be appropriate, and um, include your
Instagram handle if you don't have Instagram, a few pictures
so we can get a flavor of your essence. And
then we're gonna pick two people and they are going
to be on the live show and do a dating
game like experience with our Goddess Joel Monique. Should we

(01:14:01):
talk about the slow motion run on the outro? We
can do go ahead? That didn't stick? What do you
mean the slow motion run didn't stick? I'm noticing that
there were a lot of games that we played it
didn't make it to another another episode. And then there's
games like toe finger and did that have more? Or

(01:14:24):
hide the saltine? To hide the saltine? The hide the saltine?
Had quite a few that that stuck around all right? Well, yeah,
running in slow motion a la Baywatch did not stick.
Did not stick. It's funny how we did it. They
did it in real slow motion and then when they
cut back and then me running behind you while you're
walking away and thinking, yeah, all right, so live show

(01:14:47):
catch us on Drew Barrymore. Um, if you haven't seen it,
I'm sure it's on the YouTube's And um, what else, Joel?
What else am I forgetting to tell everybody buy tickets
to the live show? Ye? That that's it. That's pretty much.
That's everything. We're getting really excited for the live show
and um and um, it's going to be spectacular, right.

(01:15:08):
I want to say one thing, And we are really
close to this, being closer to being over, So I
want to say to everybody out there, I know you
have fatigue, and I know that, uh, it seems like
it's very safe and it's probably and it and it
probably is. But let's stick to the guidelines of your

(01:15:29):
state and UH and use better judgment out there people, uh,
because it would suck to have another year. It's been
a year pretty much since COVID's been around. It would
suck to have another year like twenty twenty. So please, man,
I know it feels like it's over, but now's the
time to really do your best to stay COVID safe.

(01:15:57):
On that note, the New Stories About show we made
about a bunch of doctor nurses in the Canada who
loved me. I said, He's the Stories Net all should go.
So gathera around you. Here are gather around you, here

(01:16:18):
are scot free. Watch your wins a time. Mm hmmmm